vehicles-discussion

[balmy compass]

I would like a response if that is available

[plucky summit]

You can’t pen E100’s turret now, with standard 💀
I say run rammer, your accuracy hurts you more than the pen does

[solid gate]

No, cause HEAT can't be used vs tracks or spaced armour, and it's got better normalisation, AP is always your main ammo, also idk what 2 does lol I'm on mobile, @balmy compass well seems unpopular but I would definitely run CS

[feral portal]

like i said earlier one of the major points of a speedy tank is their mobility, and ability to flank, and if youre stuck in a situation like that its kinda the punishment

[balmy compass]

I never could pen with standard, without cali pre 9.1 prammo could barely pen it anyway which was why I ran cali

[safe cedar]

Foch 155, your bloom is horrendously so CS is actually necessary to maximize your dpm. (Even though it's an autoloader)

[plucky summit]

2 is the default key for premium ammunition

Also I’m just saying that when you can’t pen something, you use prammo, no need for CS

[plucky summit]

If that’s why you ran CS, run rammer then

[feral portal]

edge cases, the nightmare of anybody trying to organize things

[balmy compass]

I am unsure if cali + prammo in Maus can even penetrate the E 100 turret now, which is why I’m asking

[feral portal]

idk use armor inspector

[balmy compass]

Sorry I’m F2P in armor inspector

[plucky summit]

The turret base is a glaring weakspot for most prammo 🤷‍♂️

I’ll check on armor inspector if you need
Aight then

[balmy compass]

Well that was buffed to and I wouldn’t trust the dispersion to hit that anyway unless I was in a facehug

[safe cedar]

Not really it applies to most derpy tanks that get forced to take Hasty shots

[solid gate]

Yeah that's a common response, but sometimes in reality you just want to fire and pen the Dam thing instead of relocating and wasting all the precious dpm you gained by running rammer, @plucky summit ah right, and no that's what we're talking about too, prammo will pen using CS often but will not running rammer, and also my point about tracks still stands, extra AP definitely comes in handy there, and will sometimes help out vs lower plates etc, that little extra can mean you don't lose dpm using prammo

[plucky summit]

This is the best flat situation against non CS APCR Maus shells

[plucky summit]

At that point, 3CRB will take effect, making AP penetrate anyways, no need for CS in that case

[feral portal]

better to relocate and get 2 shots off and run than get 1 off then run

[balmy compass]

I assumed so, looks like I’ll just have to cry and sidescrape infinitely until the E 100 shows its lower plate

[plucky summit]

This is with CS, but does it matter when it's only a horizontal situation? Just shoot the same spot and you might as well get the same result

[balmy compass]

Dispersion would make me miss 💀

[plucky summit]

Exactly, so CS doesn't help you much at all vs E100, unless they get lazy, I guess

[solid gate]

3 calibre rule?? How does that come into this discussion, or are you talking about something else, @feral portal no cause I find you can stay and fight where you want to if you can pen, rather than running and getting the odd shot in

[balmy compass]

Yeah, ig I’ll swap back to rammer whenever I play Maus again

[feral portal]

fight where you want to is where you can pen its butt, thats repositioning lol

[solid gate]

That's angled, send a SS with it flat on (which still won't pen I think)

[plucky summit]

3CRB = Three Caliber Rule Bypassing

Regardless of shell caliber or nominal armor thickness, if AP/APCR strikes a spaced armor plate or an external module before hitting main armor, the shell instantly passes the three calibers rule, making penetration more viable

[balmy compass]

Nah, any good E 100 player would angle so I’m good

[safe cedar]

CS is for derpy tank with HEAT and HESH/HE
Rammer is for high dpm tanks with AP/APCR

[plucky summit]

With CS it will pen a flat enhanced turret
Without CS it still pens a non enhanced turret

[solid gate]

Lol not when they're firing at you, and since when are e 100 players good 🤭 @plucky summit are you sure? 246 ap pen doesn't pen a flat e 100 turret from what i know, and that's pre buff

[plucky summit]

With APCR

AP CS won't pen it anyways

[balmy compass]

I expect alot out of every player (especially teamates which I shouldn’t) so whenever I do find a not so good player he is easy to beat up

[solid gate]

Ah sorry got confused, but maus prammo will pen without CS? Swat said it didn't pre update without CS

[plucky summit]

It does if the E100 neglects enhanced armor

But any angling will cut that opportunity off

[plucky summit]

To elaborate on this:

[solid gate]

Lol right, still almost no tank is gonna pen a (correctly) angled e 100 turret, the only point of this conversation is if you're talking about a flat on

[balmy compass]

Well the E 100 was harder to angle well pre 9.1 but it was still my bane back then

[wise moth]

Run rammer on the Maus. Your only job in the Maus is to drive forward at the enemy. If they shoot at you, great, if they don't, you need to be able to return as much damage as possible

[solid gate]

Sorry I didn't answer that earlier, interesting I didn't know that that rule was activated vs tracks etc, but still you need good pen mostly vs a track when sidescraping or vs spaced armour

[plucky summit]

It only fails heavily against the Type 71's frontal side 🤷‍♂️

[balmy compass]

I figured as much now 👍

[safe cedar]

400mm heat pen: allow us to introduce ourselves

[solid gate]

Right, anyway fair point, CS for AP has limited use then, I still think it can be useful so you don't have to use prammo vs lower plates, and also for tracking tanks you seem to need the extra pen, at least noticeably in the t62a

[solid gate]

Lol, even then can't the e 100 find a sweet spot where it can't be penned? Idk anyway that's why I said most tanks

[plucky summit]

I run CS only on the 183, for obvious reasons :p

[safe cedar]

There is no sweet spot.

[plucky summit]

Most tanks in tier 10 can pen E100's turret if its corner is exposed at all

[solid gate]

Takes skill though lol, @safe cedar yeah ok

[safe cedar]

Kk find an angle where jagdpanzer E-100 or Foch 155 heat with cali can't pen an E-100 turret.

[solid gate]

What did you think I was saying? You said there is no weak spot so I acknowledged that

[past fractal]

By drive forward to the enemy I will assume that is on urban areas? And obviously not on hilly terrain?

[balmy compass]

Maus is a exceptional meatbag and should distract the enemy and take fire for your teamates, so driving forward to the enemy in any terrain will work

[pulsar sinew]

This is excellent

[plucky summit]

Thank you

You may notice that the track in the third image is edited, because armor inspector, while correct in calculation, misrepresents that calculation by highlighting red where the wheels and treads overlap, because apparently they’re separate entities when in highlighting

Seems I was actually pretty lazy, I could have made it seem seamless 💀

[muted raptor]

Type 69. The 121b in essence.

[scarlet kernel]

"The maps are too small to include lt"

Even now it's still true, lt ingame is currently a medium (bc25t) or a better medium (vickers light, t100lt).

And the one that is a lt is considered the worst one

[plucky summit]

We talkin bout Sheridan?

It had to have missiles introduced for it to be a relevant light tank

[scarlet kernel]

Yea, idk why people use that statement when they are talking about the ebr

Unless...

Maybe if wg are putting wheeled vehicles...
It would be medium like?

The only one i can think of is that giant african-german one

[solid gate]

Looked fine to me lol, I’m still a bit confused though, basically if the 3CR applies to spaced armour cause it’s so thin, then it’s actually a detriment not a help? I thought spaced armour helped sidescraping, also if it applies to tracks how does sidescraping work at all??

Apologies for being so thick, I thought I knew the basic game concepts but apparently not 😳

[plucky summit]

Sidescraping used to work, but now with 3CRB accidentally (I hope) introduced, only strong sides can take on the shells

But the 3CRB happens against the main armor plate, which is terrible for the armor

Don’t worry, this is a hidden mechanic that isn’t taught by WG, because I think this entire occurrence is an accident on their part

Thickness doesn’t matter, whether it hits spaced armor or an external module before hitting the main armor, does

[solid gate]

Wdym against the main armour plate? So if the actual armour is one third the Caliber of the gun firing against it that’s when this rule applies? Or if the spaced armour plate is one third then it applies?

[solid gate]

Right, how do you accidentally add a whole mechanic to the game by accident though 🤯

[plucky summit]

The thickness doesn’t matter

As long as it hits something else before the main armor, the AP/APCR shell immediately passes 3CR

Hence I call it three caliber rule bypassing

[solid gate]

Right, but if that’s the case then all spaced armour means an auto pen? I’m really missing something lol

[plucky summit]

If the main armor is thick enough, then the shell will simply fail to penetrate the plate

Please note that passing 3CR is NOT an automatic penetration

Passing 3CR only means that your shell will not ricochet (for AP and APCR, for which it applies to)

This doesn't mean your shell can't bounce

[brave juniper]

It will try to penetrate while mostly ignoring angles however if it still isn't able to pen it will simply say critical hit or randomly bounce out of yet another plate if it does hit another on its path, it has happened to me and I've penned a tank 3m away from another that way

[solid gate]

Ohhh ok thanks, I thought you meant it automatically pens, so that also means the 3CR can bounce? I always thought it was an auto pen, just cause I didn’t think about the fact all it was countering is a ricochet, unless 3CR also applies to HEAT

[brave juniper]

The best example of 3CR is shooting fv4005s triple plates on the turret side, a shot that didn't go into the "main armor" will simply say critical hit, meaning it went right through the side plates which are 8mm? Idk each and still didn't do damage

[empty helm]

What's good about comet

[brave juniper]

https://youtu.be/6lCmL6eZpdE

Also https://youtu.be/hDsBtNlem-s

[plucky summit]

3CR applies only to AP and APCR, and only mostly autopens because of 2CR and now obnoxiously thin the plate is for shell normalization to rag onto

[modern badge]

i am researching the ST-1 and SU 101. the ST has allmost tha same T10 gun by name as the SU 101. Does anybody know if researching the SU 101 T10 gun will unlock the ST-1 T10 gun?

[plucky summit]

FV4005's side turret plates don't exist

[brave juniper]

They in fact do, while I do not keep the video someone did shoot at the 3 of them and clipped it here

[plucky summit]

Wait, in the video, did he not do damage?

[brave juniper]

A critical hit with no damage

Y'know like the kind of shots explained in the 2/3CR from wot, the non penetrating "critical" hits

[plucky summit]

If he hit the side of the turret, HEAT autoricos at 85 degrees

[brave juniper]

It was with ap 🤔

[plucky summit]

He shot HEAT in the clip 🤷‍♂️
The video you posted, at least

[brave juniper]

Not the video I posted, some WOTB video that was posted here at least a year ago when someone like you kept saying the same arguments

[plucky summit]

Which argument? Just wondering

[brave juniper]

That it was heat, man kept saying it had to be heat or bugged or whatever bc it kept bouncing

Even though the ammo Loadout showed AP

[plucky summit]

Well, I'll have to see the clip, sorry 😅

[solid gate]

Right

[solid gate]

Heat can’t pen at that angle but it doesn’t ricochet right?

[empty helm]

It just splash

[plucky summit]

HEAT never splashes.

[plucky summit]

HEAt can autorico at >85°, but I'm not sure if this transfers to Blitz, or is old mechanics on WoT

[solid gate]

Right, well I’m fairly certain it doesn’t ricochet cause that can’t happen HE type shells, but yeah it auto bounces at some angle like that (a better angle than ap/apcr)

[plucky summit]

aka 85°, probably

HE can't rico, HEAT may

Again, aforementioned doubts apply

[empty helm]

It will splash in blitz

[plucky summit]

No it doesn't

Not for damage, which is why it doesn't matter if it "splashes"

[solid gate]

Yeah ok, also do you know how shell normalisation works for HE? For instance is the 183s HESH at 242 mm pen with CS roughly equal to the object 140s AP which is 240 (I think)?

[plucky summit]

Absolutely not, HE and HEAT don't normalize
APCR at 2°
AP at 5°

[solid gate]

Wait, I thought HEAT just had a lower shell normalisation

[plucky summit]

Yeah, 0° :)

[solid gate]

Thanks, so does HE also bounce at 85 degrees? Like HEAT

[plucky summit]

HE never ricochets, it merely detonates on impact

[solid gate]

Yep same with HEAT though

But it still can’t pen at certain angles if I’m correct (which I’m usually not)

[plucky summit]

Yeah but in game (afaik in WoT) HEAT can rico

We're not talking about real life at all

[solid gate]

Yep lol, I’m pretty sure in game it can’t Ricochet, I’ll have to go double check though

[plucky summit]

Ik it's a gamble for Blitz, but in WoT it's been officially set that way

[brave juniper]

Unable to find the clip this is the best I can provide for now, a regular apcr shot will bounce at 87.5° or just 87° if the angle is 89°/89.5° which can happen aiming it very carefully or rng trolled, ap normalizes to 85° even if u somehow hit at 90° down to 144mm so I will say I have no clue how they made that work out until info the clip again myself, but apcr does indeed have s good chance of bouncing if it isn't a high pen round 🤔

I will be back after a good night of sleep and wasting time tomorrow looking for it

[plucky summit]

Well thank you for your future investment, I’ll be looking forward to explaining the situation

[brave juniper]

If I don't find i will simply give up on it after tomorrow and let's say it was some bug and not an actual game function, don't feel like going through my every blitz server for it

Gn

[feral portal]

opinions on 13 90? also setup pls xd

dyou mean reload?

[feral portal]

yes, its good

13 90 needs a buff to pen ugh

[radiant spire]

Wz 121 any good really?

[hollow belfry]

It’s good and quite fun to play

[empty helm]

Is Yoh a real concept

[thorny smelt]

You can ask the Yoh Company

[empty helm]

I can't call them 😔

[solid gate]

Can we please have Ragnite radiator's glow effect for Valkyria Chronicles tanks?

[molten gust]

I've noticed that a lot of the tier 5 - 7 vk tanks have a glitch wjere the lower plate shows that you can pen. Ofc, you can't. I think it's because of the texture/pattern of the lower plate

pls fix devs

[hollow mauve]

Guys i have the is4 and i absolutely love it. should i bother grinding for 60TP

[hollow sequoia]

thats the backup track model poking out, shows that its gray because it doesnt count as the main armor hitbox

[neat nimbus]

Is worth

[empty helm]

Yes
It's a fun HT

[neat nimbus]

More fun than T26E5

[empty helm]

Because it's a tier 8 and not 7?

[neat nimbus]

I was referring to the t26 sheriff

If the t54 shark is more fun than the other

[empty helm]

Shark is more fun

[wanton marlin]

What is this 400mm block of spaced armor doing inside of the Lycan?

[neat nimbus]

Prevent engine on fire

[fast compass]

Prevent any kind of module dmg apart from the tracks and gun

[violet timber]

It’s making the internal modules invincible, seeing as the only things that have more then 400mm of pen are tier 10 TDs, and even then they would have had to have gone through the actual armor first

[wanton marlin]

Wg pls fix

[hollow moth]

Who said it's a bug? Actually it's intended to be like this

[violet timber]

It’s not a bug, that’s how the tank is supposed to be. It was sold with that gimmick

[empty helm]

Is war duck a living being because it have

Internal organs

[valid gale]

ignores the thick red outline underneath the other plates

[valid gale]

It’s supposed to be invulnerable to internal module damage but crew doesn’t apply

Dunno why this took forever to send

[solid gate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/927698771398246483/1006608247681196152/Screenshot_2022-08-09-18-00-53-092_com.whatsapp.jpg

Off to bed little tank, you've had enough 😵‍💫

[ruby salmon]

Actionx or t54e2

[wanton marlin]

T54e2. Can go hulldown better plus has 310 alpha and a good re reload

[plucky summit]

If you want Action X, get Caernarvon, it’s basically better

[dim shard]

Really? I was recently playing Keiler and facing Caernavron just felt like playing against cardboard even at their turret roof. I don't perfectly remember but I think i could overmatch their turret and pen all around the gun mantlet

[hollow notch]

Having enough pen to pen =/= overmatching

[plucky summit]

Then they weren’t using their gun depression enough

It’s a DPM monster, and has the funny consumables that AX doesn’t have

[dim shard]

I'm learning everyday about personalized consummables (just learnt an hour ago that Tiger P had funny consummables and provisions) so what are these on the Caernavron?

[plucky summit]

I know it has sandbags and super speed, you can check on blitzhangar.com

Yup, as well as reactive armor

[queen cargo]

Legendary camo should have (not multiple camos) map specific evolution/changes; playing on a desert map changes the camo colours to be desert based (no pattern changes), playing on winter maps changes it to winter based, playing on summer maps changes it to summer based. It’s kinda irritating that it doesn’t do this. This could be a notable feature to add along side the HD updates to tanks

[rare crane]

Is tortoise payable atm or should i skip it? :p

[solid gate]

It's actually not bad, as long as your cupola is hidden behind the cover you're reversing into you can angle extremely to get a lot of blocks on the cheek, didn't love the gun though, accuracy was pretty bad

[plucky summit]

The accuracy is bad? 🤨
Spoiled, or something?

[solid gate]

Haha definitely spoiled, the on move dispersion seemed terrible, for peeking in and out of cover then angling to block it didn't do that well, even though on paper stat's don't seem too bad

[rigid rover]

yo btw jpz4 or nashorn

[plucky summit]

What tier 10 you want? ._.

[sleek apex]

Use Armor Inspector, available on browser and as an app

[hallow robin]

Thanks 🙂 that I was looking for 🙂

Is this mod legal to use in WOTB? I wont get ban for it?

[rigid rover]

idk
jpe > grille so jpe ig

[balmy compass]

Be like me and skip the Jgpz IV for no reason 😎

[lyric oriole]

No it's illegal and you will be banned for using

I'm not joking about that

You can view the modules on 3rd party sites

But you are not allowed to use in-game skin mods

[hallow robin]

ok, good that I asked then 😉

[brave juniper]

Although it's "legal" in armored warfare if you know how to mod that, ez fires

@hallow robin

[molten gust]

I'm guessing it needs to be fixed right

[hollow sequoia]

eh, been like that for years and no one cares. adds a bit of learning to the game

[molten gust]

damn
fair enough ig

[tulip knot]

Though recently it’s been messing me up on the tiger 1. I keep shooting the lower plate and being confused at it not penning. I think it’s a skill issue

[lofty gust]

Su152 good or bad

[sleek apex]

Good, thing makes boom

[solid gate]

Whatever you say,gun of is1 is the biggest of dogshit

[dim shard]

Tiger I's lower plate isn't an automatical pen, I believe the irregularities of the tracks part aren't just visual but I might be wrong

[solid gate]

@Bio_Hazard_420 [ZNTrasH]#2935

[sleek apex]

Soviet IS? The 122mm has nice alpha but quite long reload so you have to be patient, if you arent then use the 100mm

I only used the 122mm and did not have big problems with it.

[queen cargo]

Tiger 1 should totally have a fictional version of the vorpanzer skirt attachment to better reflect its upper front plate armour (example of what the vorpanzer is however as stated it should be a fictional variant of it for the upper plate)

I understand just a while ago (relatively speaking) it was put in HD but I feel this would make it feel correct. It would balance the fiction with (a closer) reality

[sleek apex]

So Titan H-Nd?

If something are gonna change to the tiger I imo it should be the stock turret being changed into Tiger I Early prod. turret.

[thorny smelt]

Looks at barn turret of ARL44:

[sleek apex]

Bird house

[solid gate]

I bought amx 12t,i loved but shoul i grind or not?

[thorny smelt]

If you love the grind of Batignolles-Chatillon Char 25T line then go for it

Here's the Batignolles-Chatillon Char 25T in the flesh

[solid gate]

Hmm thanks,i love french tanks.

[shy hound]

And a M4 Sherman behind it?

[thorny smelt]

Yup

[solid gate]

Bro m4sherman is bad in my opinion

[shy hound]

In-game maybe

[hollow moth]

Irl? No, it was perfect for what it was meant to do

In game? That's the best medium tank in tier 5, just play safe and don't abuse the lack of hull armor

[solid gate]

How can i show myself while playing game on phone,at dc

[hollow moth]

Through replay files.

[hollow moth]

Very good

Because it probably shares the engine with other vehicle, so once you bought it, you technically researched the engine too

[copper swan]

some tanks of the same nation use the same modules, such as gun, suspension or engine

[solid gate]

Now did i understand true?if i search tiger 1 8,8gun,i can use at jagdpanther because they are using same gun

[violet timber]

No, the Tiger uses a KwK, jagdPanther uses a Pak

[thorny smelt]

Yup

[sleek apex]

^, although some other tanks on the tech tree also use the same gun like for example the 88mm K.w.K. L/71 can be used on Tiger I, Tiger (P), Tiger II, Vk 45.03 (P) A.

[thorny smelt]

Take IS-4 and IS-7 lines. They share most of the guns.

[hollow sequoia]

not a single tank ingame shares a track

[solid gate]

It’s horrible IMO, armour is really bad, mobility is very average, seven degrees gun dep doesn’t allow you to use your small amount of turret armour much, and the gun is just horrendous with horrible accuracy (at least bloom is bad, I think dispersion is also) if you want an American heavy go T 29 it’s far superior, one of the best tier sevens, just abuse it’s hulldown capabilities even when down tier, and when facing tanks with average pen the hull armour is also very good, only a small strip is pennable, however that changes a lot of the time if prammo is used, but mostly no need to expose the hull just use the turret, also don’t sidescrape the sides are very weak, and the drive wheels are also fairly easy to pen

[hollow moth]

Hull armor is bad because you're not supposed to show your hull lmao
It's a heavium, not meant to be as fast as a medium or as slow as s heavy
Why you want very good precision factors in a heavy tank after all?

[solid gate]

Yeah, all true, but read what I said

Basically everything about it is bad, you’ve only got 7 degrees to use your turret armour, and even then the turret isn’t very good, and it’s quite a slow tank, sure it’s got a heavium playstyle but it does it very badly

[hollow moth]

It's an auto-loader that causes a lot of damage, has a great HP pool, big DPM and can never be permatracked, its precision isn't that bad and hull armor can be kinda trollish sometimes. Good for what it's supposed to do: peek and boom.

[solid gate]

M-VII-YOH lol, the tier vii not the others, the others are fine

Did you read it as M VI yoh? No wonder you were confused XD, that’s a great tank

[hollow moth]

Oh yeah, my bad

[solid gate]

No worries, I realised when you said autoloader lol, I was like wait the tier vii got a buff huh 🤯

[hollow moth]

Regardless, sorry for the misleading argue.

[solid gate]

Haha that’s all good, would hate to be held responsible for all the times I’ve started a misleading debate 🤭

[tepid stump]

man M-VII-Yoh would be crazy if it had an autoloader

[karmic lion]

which gun for the jagdpanther

[solid gate]

In general, do you consider 65 km/h a good speed?

[tepid geyser]

yes

[empty helm]

88mm and 128mm

[thorny smelt]

Tier 7 or 8?

[loud arch]

did I commit a mistake?

[balmy compass]

If you mean by skipping the Fernie then the general community will say you made the “right” choice

[solid gate]

they forgot to add one german tank

the shwerer gustav

[empty helm]

Too big for the game

[loud verge]

It's too big

[solid gate]

Yeah, I wouldn’t mind seeing a two shot for it, maybe 280 dmg with a 15 sec reload or something, and 4 seconds in between, it would make the tank worth grinding over the t29 apart from just getting to the other yohs, also those numbers I just made up off the top of my head I’ve got no idea what the dpm would end up as lol

[empty helm]

As long as himmelsdorf

[karmic lion]

7

[thorny smelt]

10,5 cm gun

[karmic lion]

👍

[karmic lion]

these good equipments for the jpanther1?

[viral falcon]

@karmic lion
I'd swap out the traverse equipment for the engine buff, the supercharger to the aim time buff, and dispersion to on-the-move precision equipment.

[solid gate]

I think that’s good, however I would leave the dispersion buff, at least if you’re gonna be second/third line cause you’re in a td, if you’re using it frontline cause it’s got armour then aim time is probably just as good (sorry about the ping that was an accident)

[solid gate]

Can someone tell me how can i block damage at sherman firely,please?

[thick trout]

You don't, it's pretty much totally paper. You want to be second line and taking no hits, moving to find positions where you won't be focused as much as possible

[solid gate]

Like light tanks,always move,find position,be sniper.thanxx

[sleek apex]

It isnt mobile as a light though, second line and be sure that you arent the one receiving hits on the team, try to hit more shots to the enemy than you receive

[oak pollen]

I was going to get my first tier 10 TD
Should I grind first between t110e3, t110e4, obj268, and jpze100
Anyone have a suggestion for me?

[violet timber]

183

[sleek apex]

Jagd E100 is a good line, as long as you dont use Ferdinand

[oak pollen]

Thank
By the way, do you have any suggestion how to play Ferdinand? (I get it from tiger p line. My real jpz line i just research jpanther)

[sleek apex]

1. Research Jagdpanther II, not Ferdinand
   There

And going to jump from tiger (P) to Jagd E100 line isnt good if you are already on the Jagdpanther

[thorny smelt]

Panther to E 100:

[oak pollen]

Thank

[elder canopy]

What's better T52E2 or AMX M4? (I have only 8.5k gold so I can't buy them both😔)

[solid gate]

Guys what do u think about Kranvagn and its line??

[vital flax]

T54E2

[untold spire]

Emil 1 is the most fun little tank, afterwards they are still hailed generally but imho too sluggish for me to enjoy

I would just get Emil 1 just because its already fun on its own, and then you will get enough XP from it to get Emil II. I feel Emil II and Kranvagn are similar enough you should know from Emil II if you also want Kranvagn.

[misty wing]

They look almost the exact same but Emil II's turret is honestly quite bad against prammo and TDs whereas Kran is basically invincible

[solid gate]

Oh okay.. but should i get Kranvagn??

[solid gate]

Oh yeah when i see Emil 2 i think it's Kranvagn xd
The same with Skoda T50 and tvp

[viral falcon]

You should if you like sluggish lineholder playstyle

[wanton marlin]

What is this wg? Legit can’t damage its hull

[solid fractal]

What do you mean?

[solid gate]

Imo it’s good tank, but as someone said above you have to like sluggish tanks that are good at positional play, if you do get it just always choose a spot you can hulldown, and cause of its autoloader the longer you spend away from fighting the better dpm, so don’t be worried about repositioning, you have plenty of time to think about your next move

[wise moth]

What tank is that

[wanton marlin]

So apparently it’s a tier 9 TD on wot console

[solid gate]

IS vs KV3

[thorny smelt]

Both

[solid gate]

I think kv 3, not sure though, I haven’t spent much time studying them

[wanton marlin]

For some reason every kv3 player I meet is clueless and every IS player I meet is like Stalin himself is driving

[solid gate]

Should I focus E100 or Vk72 this update

[wanton marlin]

E100. It got turret buffed

[solid gate]

wait, where did you saw that buff. I just heard about the e50M buff for the german side

[vital flax]

9.1

[wanton marlin]

Wg what did you do

[solid gate]

but seems like the vk has smaller weak profile

[wise moth]

People will just load gold and pen the VK’s lower plate.

[solid gate]

i hear it's also weak to even sidescrape right?

[solid gate]

seems like penetrable sidescrape

[solid gate]

how about if it was e100 firing against it? how does the armor fare on sidescrape

[solid gate]

nah I mean the E100 firing and the vk 72 taking the hit, sorry for poor clarification

[wise moth]

Not much changes since E-100 and 215b have the same pen. Only difference is that E-100 is taller, so it can shoot down onto that hull cheek

[solid gate]

I guess being tall has some advantage at times

[balmy compass]

Someone told me this happens when you download textures for a tank but then that tank gets updated to PBR, also happened to me here
Its probably just a bug the armor inspector dev needs to fix, not really WGs fault

[abstract rain]

Do you think obj 705a will come to blitz?

[raven swift]

Why does the type 68 have better alpha than the type 71 lol

[night citrus]

it does?

[wanton marlin]

I know lol. That was me

[solid gate]

Yup it does, when facehugging it can be a massive advantage for penning the enemy, however there's the obvious disadvantage of a large profile, also lower plates due to the angle can be difficult to pen, and if you don't have much gun depression then facehugs can actually be more difficult

[solid gate]

just hope your enemy isn't flat as a pancake

Yeah lol, t100 sidehugging a Maus is problematic, however I meant more that if you can't depress enough then you might not be able to hit anything except the turret

[jade summit]

Best ways to play the VK.45.03?

[night citrus]

play it like a tiger 2 except u got no armor, so side scrape more often, ur turret will always be weak,
honestly feel like u can play it like a heavium

[foggy spire]

I just got the Shark! How do I play it?

[balmy compass]

drive and shoot

[foggy spire]

Like general playstyle? Hulldown or brawler?

[balmy compass]

both

Shark excels all hulldown tho, but the Shark is in general a very easy tank to play

[raven swift]

Yes, 68 avg. is 400 and the 71 rolls lower avg

[foggy spire]

IDK why but my OBJ 752 is my best preforming tank.

[solid gate]

Wrong, both have an avg dmg of 400, just cause you had bad rng for one doesn’t change the actual numbers, @foggy spire well it’s known to be one of the best tier nines : D

[foggy spire]

I mean it outperforms even my Type. It has a 74% WR and 2.2k average damage over 50 battles.

[solid gate]

Oof nice stats, also that makes sense cause I don’t think type is that good, it’s meta but not OP (I don’t think it was OP even before the nerf, certainly sounds harder to play anyway than the 752)

[foggy spire]

OBJ 752 is a hulldown tank. Basically the Soviet version of the M-5 YOH.

[solid gate]

Yeah, but with a fantastic gun from what I’ve heard

[wanton marlin]

????

[raven swift]

Asia server moment, I never had higher than 410 (Which I think is avg highroll) and low roll at most 370

statistically the 71 should have a better gun than the 68

[glossy finch]

Which would be the better tank to grind E-100 or VK 72?

[balmy compass]

E 100

[plucky summit]

Bad RNG and negative bias, the average is 400, and there’s no changing it unless WG does

[flat hill]

MAUS : 3

[glossy finch]

💀

[flat hill]

;D

[tulip knot]

I wonder why. Maybe because it’s arguably broken and overall a great tank

[foggy spire]

It’s a good tank but not OP.

[hollow belfry]

It does have a better gun statistically but tier for tier the 71's is worse

[tulip knot]

Idk it’s the best tank in the game for winrate

[raven swift]

Exactly, Why don't people get that

[hollow belfry]

The 68 has slightly lower AP pen and about 100 less dpm
But still one whole tier lower and funnily enough has better HEAT pen

The 71's gun was simply super frustrating to work with for me

[violet timber]

Statistically it does have a better gun

[wanton marlin]

Wg what have you done .-.

[plucky summit]

Man’s surprised that plates can be angled close to 90 degrees 🙃

[autumn sable]

Ain’t no way

[solid gate]

Well 3CR would come into play anyway if it's just the angle that's creating the armour

[plucky summit]

Ain't nobody gonna hit it anyways

They're fr making a Churchill VIII

It's just a nerfed Churchill VI, nvm it has a derpy 270 gun

[hollow notch]

Don't mind there not even being enough metal there to create a 2.7 meter cross section

[plucky summit]

Oh boy, then shooting the sides from the front would matter to WG

[balmy compass]

Yeah, it’s annoying, another derp gun in low tier but it has insane trolly armor 💀

[plucky summit]

At least it's tier 6 instead of 5, with less alpha

[balmy compass]

The armor tho 💀

[plucky summit]

Mitsu 🤷‍♂️

[balmy compass]

Its practically a prammo magnet but the turret still can get bounces and the lower plate is really small

[balmy compass]

The armor isn’t powerful for the Mistu, it has a large lower plate and pressing 2 literally lights up the entire tank

[plucky summit]

Yeah and Churchill VI, a stronger armor profile, fails consistently

[balmy compass]

I found most tanks using prammo lets you hit the turret and the lower plate more consistently, but hitting the gun causes the Churchill to block, or if you get unlucky your shot may bounce off the sloped armor all around the turret

The upper plate doesn’t seem to be a place you can shoot unless you are in something like the SU-100Y

💀

[boreal spruce]

hmmm😳

[plucky summit]

🤷‍♂️

[balmy compass]

WG pls nerf :(
Maus side armor too strong 😭

[balmy compass]

Why is the gun square, it looks wrong

[plucky summit]

It's PC's model

[balmy compass]

Oh

PC using Minecraft guns 💀

[solid gate]

You guys spend too much time mousing (mausing) over a tank to find the highest armour point 😂

[plucky summit]

Minmaf

[plucky summit]

I pulled that screenshot from a few months ago 🤷‍♂️
Even used it for a meme

[solid gate]

Lol not even original then 😉

[plucky summit]

I took the screenshot though 😰

[solid gate]

Yeah lol, so you spent the time mausing over it a few months ago 😬 #gotcha

[plucky summit]

Yes

[solid gate]

gg, defeated, valiant effort though, extra credits and XP

[solid gate]

Ah wow, what the heck, looks like a t 150 lol (the actual one not the bp one)

[balmy compass]

You are good at drawing

[plucky summit]

Sorry but that is in no way like the T-150

@balmy compass thanks

[solid gate]

Really? What about the lower right hand side one, front on looks like it's a bit similar to me, also what swat said, nice drawing

[plucky summit]

I see where you’re coming from on the effectiveness, but y e a hno
Thanks

[solid gate]

Haha no wasn't talking about effectiveness, guess I've just forgotten what the tank looks like

[plucky summit]

I just meant the effectiveness models 😅

[solid gate]

Yep lol I know

[plucky summit]

But yeah, unfortunately I will not have it in blitz-art for a few hours

[solid gate]

Yeah, I just checked that and saw your last post, looks good 👍

[plucky summit]

My mom did that @solid gate 💀
I'm a lazy bruh moment, and apparently there's another model to do

[solid gate]

Oof you should have credited her xd, or maybe not considering the comments you would have gotten 😬

[plucky summit]

Yeah my mom shouldn't need to deal with D i s c o r d

[balmy compass]

Relatable

[solid gate]

Lol

[bleak ether]

🥶

[median snow]

🥶

[solid gate]

devs forgot to add schwerer gustav

[regal bough]

cause its not a tank its a railway gun and its just a tad to big

[empty helm]

Why kv-5 need a big turret

[wanton marlin]

Buff the FV301 turret face. Give it 200mm of frontal turret amor so it can actually go hulldown and compete with the cent 5/1

[thorny smelt]

It is by design

[dreamy osprey]

its a light tank... why is it supposed to compete with dingo?

[wanton marlin]

laugh in T54 ltwt the ltwt can go hull down and it’s a light.

[dreamy osprey]

it has terrible gun depression for that job

[thorny smelt]

This might help you

[wanton marlin]

So a tank that can’t poke ridges can go hulldown but a tank like the 301 that has the gun depression can’t? 🤔

[dreamy osprey]

its called balance.

besides 301 has some good manlet covering the front of the turret which can block some shots

[thorny smelt]

T54 lightweight, and most of the USSR tanks, have low ceilings which you cannot go down even further. Small, easy to produce. They mostly fight in plains.

[wanton marlin]

A good mantle huh? Tier 7 can pen mantlet

[dreamy osprey]

its a light tank, you aren't supposed to depend on its armor.

[thorny smelt]

It is weird that KV-2 and KV-5 turrets are quite tall and they can go 8-10 degrees of gun depression easily but I think the gun is placed quite high.

[wanton marlin]

well if I’m not supposed to depend on armor why did you can it has a good mantlet that can block shots if I’m not even supposed to depend on it 🤔

[dreamy osprey]

it has a good mantlet doesn't mean you are supposed to depend on it.

its just there

[dreamy osprey]

its the same way sheridan has spaced armor covering around it but you don't use it actively. its passive defense against HE

[thorny smelt]

@dreamy osprey This might help you with the explanation about it

[dreamy osprey]

its technically different because its lightweight

[solid gate]

Well yeah very true, however I’ve repeatedly accidentally peeked out my rear when hiding behind a column in a crossfire and bounced a Jgpz e 100 or something lol

[dreamy osprey]

you should have seen when dingo first came out

you could hang your rear out in the open to expose that fuel tank and nubs would shoot it thinking it would damage the tank

[wanton marlin]

Still there

[dreamy osprey]

yeah but people got smarter and learnt that shooting there doesn't work

[thorny smelt]

Like a black hole?

[dreamy osprey]

yeah because there's nothing there.

[solid gate]

Well the “ears” on a lot of turrets aren’t actually there, look pennable though

[dreamy osprey]

there differences between those ears and this fuel tank is, the armor profile shows this as a hitable area

those ears doesn't

[solid gate]

Ah ok, so actually those who tried to hit the fuel tank could have done their research and still gotten confused

[wanton marlin]

Proof that blitz is going into the toxic hulldown meta of wot pc. No turret weak spot so you can just sit in a ridge and be unpenable. Let’s hope wg won’t nerf HE like they did in wot pc so you can actually splash these vehicles

[violet timber]

There will always be a hulldown meta no matter what. Being hulldown is the strongest position for any tank to be in as it makes at least half your tank impenetrable.

[dreamy osprey]

Dingo has been here for over an year.... why are you complaining about it now lol

[wanton marlin]

Cuz I just realized

[dreamy osprey]

it would have been logical if you picked type 71 to complain about but dingo? xd

[wanton marlin]

Type 71 is at tier 10. Plus wg can nerf it. The RAAC wg cannot cuz it’s a prem

[wanton marlin]

Now I get there is a hulldown meta in blitz but I don’t want it to be so bad that wg ends up adding this and then catering it to new players

[dreamy osprey]

doubt we will be getting the bofors this year

[wanton marlin]

I hope so

[violet timber]

We already have the 1B

[dreamy osprey]

ya

[wanton marlin]

Proof that blitz is heading down the same path as wot pc

Anyways. Thoughts on 183? I wanna grind it but I feel like it might be a waste

[violet timber]

Mate, they’re both similar games made by the same company. Is it really such a surprise that they would go down similar paths?

[wanton marlin]

Yes. And they aren’t similar games. In has big open maps with arty, 15vs15 while blitz is a much more fast paced game that dosnt have a need for an op hill down tank to waste time shooting at

[violet timber]

They are both arcade style tank games. In the end, they may have differences, but they are still rather similar

[wanton marlin]

True. One is much bigger

a n y w a y s I wanna grind the 183 but is it worth?

h e l l o ?

[dreamy osprey]

They have different studios designing them

[wanton marlin]

Just buff the 301 turret face to 200mm and it will be fine

[valid gale]

No they can I hate people that bring this up as an excuse no where in EULA does it state premiums and collectors can’t be nerfed (concept lost some accuracy this rebalance) simple reason is wargaming just doesn’t want to do it it’s not physical or limited scarcity does not apply and it’s subject to being changed at any point

[hollow sequoia]

the only hope of seeing t8 prems get their stats changed is when a rebalance like the t10s come to tier 8

[wanton marlin]

Well wg wont nerf cuz it’s a premium and people won’t guy prems if they could potentially get nerfed in the future smh

[solid gate]

Plenty of prems have been nerfed/rebalanced, and even if not directly nerfed a lot of them get power crept, Lowe and IS 6 are nowhere near as good as they used to be

[wanton marlin]

Like how wg “nerfed” the anni so that sometimes there is the equal amount of anni players on both teams

[dreamy osprey]

Totally against it. its a light tank and it shouldn't have the armor to fight a medium head on.

Like even the tech tree centurion doesn't have 200mm why does a light tank need it?

[solid gate]

Not sure what you are saying or even how it is relevant?

[solid gate]

I agree, however I think the fv 301 needs a buff of some sort, maybe speed, it’s got the dpming low alpha British gun, but it doesn’t have the turret to match, so it can’t sit hull down and farm which makes it really hard to use the dpm of the gun with such horrible alpha, I think a stronger turret would make it too much like a med/too strong, but I think it needs a bit of rebalancing to make it playable

[wanton marlin]

Well you said how plenty of prems have been nerfed/rebalanced

[solid gate]

Yes, so what are you trying to say about anni? One so called “OP” premium does not counter my point

[wanton marlin]

I’m not trying to counter your point. I’m adding on to it.

[solid gate]

Did u know wolf, like your pp,is symbol of turks

I was not able to cromwell,can someone explain?please

[balmy compass]

If you mean from the rush hour event, you need to get wins in tanks that have a x2-x5 bonuses

[wanton marlin]

?

[solid gate]

I mean wolf is symbol of tukish people.whatever i just wanted to say

[wanton marlin]

oh ok

[solid gate]

Ah ok fair enough, I didn’t really understand what you were saying tbh, sorry for the misunderstanding

[wanton marlin]

All fine mate, I didn’t specify on what I was saying lol. 😄

[solid gate]

Lol no worries

Did nerf come to tiger 1,i can't dodge the shot?(i am a good player on tiger 1,i am not making something false)

[lyric oriole]

You are definitely making something false

Tiger 1 is a really good and easy tank to drive

It's the driver who's at fault if it's not working

[wanton marlin]

Tbh for me at least the tigers gun feels a little bit underwhelming because other heavy’s like T29 have 310 alpha

[solid gate]

Is not true This posetion ?

[wanton marlin]

That’s the wot pc amor profile of the tiger which is worse than blitz. If you mean wot pc then ignor what I said before this

[vital flax]

Too much. You'll take dmg and get tracked like this

[wanton marlin]

dead silence lol

[glossy finch]

Not again.....

[wanton marlin]

no I’m not…. omg. Im saying that the blitz tiger has better amor than the wot pc tiger cuz wg buffed the blitz tiger amor a few years ago from 100 to like 175

[glossy finch]

I'm talking about the Bofors. That thing is so easy to counter.

[wanton marlin]

I haven’t said anything about the bofors here

[glossy finch]

Then why did you post that screenshot of the bofors?

[wanton marlin]

Where? That’s the tiger 1 right above

[glossy finch]

Why do I even bother..... Look at what I first replied to.

[wanton marlin]

That was hours ago and irrelevant now.

Thoughts on MT-25?

[glossy finch]

Ok, fine what ever. But for the record bofors looks good on paper and thats all.

[wanton marlin]

o k

Now y’all probably gonna hate me for this but I have thought of a way to put arty in blitz without putting arty in blitz. Wg makes the vehicles a TD line from tiers 6-10. For instance the B-C 155 55 can be a 2 shot auto loader like the Foch 155, have 560 alpha, 7-8 second inter clip and a 13-15 second clip reload. as for the tier 6 AMX 13 F3 AM it can be like a fast kv-2 with poor amor and no turret.

[glossy finch]

Uh, what.

No of them would have armor, they would be slower big moving targets with terrible pen and accuracy. unless you plan to buff the pen and accuracy. Not to mention bad gun depression.

[wanton marlin]

If wg makes wot pc arty a blitz td line then they would have to buff those stats and give it more armor

Why would I wanna add something like the T92 HMC? 240 mm is to bif for blitz. I am thinking of the 150mm range. Also I’m expecting the BC 155 55 to play kind of like an auto-loading hellcat: good pen, decent accuracy, good damage per shot, fast and has ok camo

[glossy finch]

But that would be pointless as if you want armor and large gun there is stuff like JGpzE 100.

and stuff like T110E4 and E3. Foch, Obj 268,

Also those Italian tds when ever they release.

[wanton marlin]

Am sticking to the 150mm range. Not gonna add the T92 HMC. Or don’t add it as a line just make the BC 155 55 a tier 10 premium TD

[glossy finch]

One thing, arty was not designed to be in direct fire like all the fighting in blitz is.

[tulip knot]

Map size just doesn’t work for arty

[wanton marlin]

I will admit this plan has flaws but I will try to find ways around them

[tulip knot]

It would basically just be high tier t82s

[wanton marlin]

that’s why wg would buff them and give them ap and stuff to make the more like td and less like arty.

[tulip knot]

But then it’s just lightly armored td…

[glossy finch]

We don't need 5 more td lines........or a bunch of premiums

[wanton marlin]

Wg would BUFF them to make them competitive in blitz.

[wanton marlin]

I didn’t say add all the lines. Just add 1 mb 2

[tulip knot]

But why? There isn’t a point to adding a bunch of big alpha tds with bad gun handling

[glossy finch]

If they just add 1 or 2 then they might as well add something that was designed as an actual td.

[tulip knot]

Like the strv 103 (technically an MBTbut whatever

[wanton marlin]

or don’t add it as a line just make the BC 155 55 a tier 10 prem with better gun handling, traverse top speed armor etc then it’s arty counterpart

[glossy finch]

Yes, and or the ShPTK-TVP 100

No point in giving an self propelled gun designed for indirect fire an unrealistic buff.

[wanton marlin]

It would be cool to see tho

[glossy finch]

And very unlikely.

[quartz swan]

Ізу всозводного із европейском сервером 8 лвл дс кто хочет

[timber flame]

If British premium HE is HESH, German HE is HEP, what is T49 premium HE?

[wanton marlin]

Again this is an idea I would like to see in blitz. It would bring some more vehicles and more play styles

[glossy finch]

More camping

[wanton marlin]

It’s premium he cuz if it wasn’t the T49 ammo would be completely free and it it had actually HESH rounds it would be op

[timber flame]

So it's just High Penetration HE?

[valid gale]

It’s just premium for the sake of balance

[glossy finch]

Its just normal HE shells

[timber flame]

Ok but what is the shell classified as

[valid gale]

HE? Says it right there

[glossy finch]

High explosive.

[timber flame]

It has the 183 hesh icon

[valid gale]

That’s the premium HE icon

[wanton marlin]

The yoh has “hesh” lol

[timber flame]

???????? Lol

[wanton marlin]

And if wg did add the strv 103 there would be more camping as well

[glossy finch]

Not as bad if they add "arty"

[wanton marlin]

Still there would be camping

[glossy finch]

So don't add any of these. Simple.

[valid gale]

Strv has the gun of a med

[wanton marlin]

yeah

[glossy finch]

Can bounce most shell up to 120 mm.

[wanton marlin]

Auto ricochet angles at its finest .-.

[glossy finch]

I said most, only in siege mode.

[wanton marlin]

Now that I’m thinking about it I kinda want the Swedish tds in the game

[deep aspen]

The kv2 needs amour buff it really isn't a heavy at this point

[wanton marlin]

Yeah. Needs enough amor to bounce some tier 5 but not so much that it can bounce tier 6

[deep aspen]

That and a bit better aim

[wanton marlin]

No. We don’t need laser kv2

[hollow belfry]

Looking at the average KV-2 players it seems to be a TD

[lyric island]

historically it was meant to be some kind of heavy spg

[hollow belfry]

^ bunker buster to be exact, far from a heavily armored breakthrough tank

[wintry orchid]

Just play 107mm. It’s better anyways

[solid gate]

What do you think about American tank destroyers?

[wise moth]

Which ones?

[solid gate]

Tier 7and 8

[hollow notch]

Which ones?

[plucky summit]

😂

[brave juniper]

The ammo type/name didn't seem to go hand to hand with the Yoh huh

[solid gate]

😁t28

[violet timber]

It was actually initially an assault heavy tank

When the KV-2 was first used, the Germans really didn’t have an answer to it

[ionic adder]

from tier 3 I immediately unlocked for less than 65k free pd is'a 7 tier B)

[bronze latch]

Kinda like the kv1

[bronze latch]

Also it was made to destroy the fortifications at close-support/fire-support vehicle designed to lob large-caliber, high-explosive shells against enemy positions during such an advance

Not to break through that was the kv1 that did that

[deep aspen]

Kv1 is unreliable

[bronze latch]

Well in real life or in game?

[plucky summit]

KV-1 is absolutely ignorable in game

[oak pollen]

Kv1 in game have very poor hull armor

Turret armor is ok, but it still able to be pen by t5 using normal

[bronze latch]

Ok your talking in game then yes

[loud arch]

how good is the Jagdpanzer e100 compared to the jagdtiger, I would rather want a jagertiger b design with just same pen but dpm needs to break the game lol https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/tigerjager-design-b/

[thorny smelt]

Here's a version with strong, very sloped casemate.

[loud arch]

wait we just need a heavily armored jpanther 2 with real dpm https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/tigerjager-design-b/ equals s t r o n g jagdtiger II, hmm

wait it can still keep its 17cm supergrille gun

[thorny smelt]

Basically you want a premium version of Jageroo named TigerJager B?

[loud arch]

no, just like jagdtiger based on t8 tiger 2 hull, we need a jagdtiger II t10 with the 17cm superGrille with the superstructure based backwards, cause illogical in the front

also make hull stronger buff

[tulip knot]

Just put the 17cm on a stug iii

[agile crest]

yes and watch the gun break the whole inside and outside

[tulip knot]

Wotb doesn’t believe in physics

[robust orchid]

Guys, trick question, what's the "American Eagle" Camouflage/Attachment for? Like for which tank specifically?

[ancient birch]

what line in euro nation should i go for? im wanting to start a line in there

[wise moth]

TVP line, then 60tp

[shy wyvern]

Well because most of the german still using small calibers and focusing in speed

[deep aspen]

Both

[late thistle]

The 183 is so addicting to play but I’m destroying my WR and stats :/

[deep aspen]

I'm not sure

It does ok for what it is but it has low health cause its a light

[wanton marlin]

Buff T49 accuracy so that I don’t miss while fully aimed. Or buff aiming time so I don’t have to wait forever

[thick trout]

The T49 is not a tank you should be aiming in, it's whole purpose is hit and run at close range

[violet timber]

Go in, blast someone with HE, laugh, run away

[empty helm]

And hear swears from the enemy that got he'ed

[wanton marlin]

Still. Would be nice to have a little bit more accuracy if you have to fire at longer ranges. I’m not asking to make it like grille accurate just a little bit more like reducing its dispersion by like 0.05

[thick trout]

It would improve it yes. And the tank doesn't need improving so there's no need to buff it.

[wanton marlin]

It’s a very small change. It’s not like giving it AP rounds which it dosnt need. It needs just a little bit more accuracy as I have seen people miss shots 70-90 m when 75% fully aimed

[thick trout]

It's a small change and an unnecessary one made to make up for people playing it wrong. That's not something the T49 is there to do. There are plenty of tanks that make up for your mistakes, no need to make the T49 like that too m

[wanton marlin]

Still would be nice tho

[tepid stump]

you just pray to the rng lords that you hit the shot, that's literally it.

[echo coral]

guys the game drop this to me

and i click it and nothing hapend so please help me

anybody is here?

[plucky summit]

Try again later

[echo coral]

how many time later

[plucky summit]

Just try every hour or sumn idk

[echo coral]

ok

[balmy compass]

neat, free tank

[echo coral]

ok

oki

thanks

[odd mica]

Hello, I want to know how to apply for tanks to test them before they go to the players

[solid fractal]

You can't.

[odd mica]

Why I can not

[solid fractal]

Because individuals can't join the program by themselves.

[odd mica]

Ok I want you to tell me how to join please

[wise moth]

Step 1: Join a clan with testing priveleges
Step 2: Get selected by the clan lead to receive test tanks (each clan has a limited number of slots)

[solid fractal]

At the moment your best chance is to join a clan that is already testing. But clan's don't give out their testing spots to random people.

[wise moth]

Oh, and you need to have been in the clan for 90 days IIRC

[odd mica]

I want to know what clans are tested or distinguished

[solid fractal]

You can check that manually by using blitzstars.com

But to be fair with such attitude you aren't going to test anything. Clans don't give out spots to randoms who only want to test

[odd mica]

Thx

[echo coral]

thx the help

[wanton marlin]

Why did wg nerf the gun dep over the rear?

[echo coral]

ohhhh

really

[solid gate]

What do you think about M10 wolverine?

[wanton marlin]

Avoid it. It’s a bad tank. No amor no maneuverability, and a bad gun

[solid gate]

Thankss

[balmy compass]

but then how will you get the T110E3 or T110E4
or if you don't want either of those tanks why not Hellcat

[plucky summit]

Probably T-100 LT

[shy hound]

Idk they are all different but great at the same time

[wise creek]

t100

[violet timber]

The Sheri is pretty good atm

[plucky summit]

Likely in care for T49's PBR update. They didn't want the gun resting on the hull :p

[wanton marlin]

It did before

[plucky summit]

Yes, so they don't want that...?

[solid gate]

What do you think about churchill mk.6

[plucky summit]

Personally, wondering how Churchill VIII is gonna be different

[solid gate]

Its a premium

[plucky summit]

I know, I own it

[solid gate]

Today i won 100,000from just a figt,without boosts

[ivory beacon]

how long is ke ni in the store for

[balmy compass]

At least a week since there isn’t a timer on the bundle yet, a 7 day timer will appear when it’s time has come

[ivory beacon]

ok thank you

[wise lantern]

Hey I'm currently playing the t-54 and I was wondering which tank I should pick between the obj.140 and the t-62A ? Can someone help me ?

[brave juniper]

Currently 140 is slightly better than t62a but both have roles so different now and they perform more or less okay/bad in them 🤷‍♂️

[wise lantern]

I don't really have any preferance, it's gonna be my first t10

[violet timber]

If it’s your first, get the 62A. 140 is more of a pseudo light right now making it more difficult to play

[wise lantern]

Thanks, since those meds changed a lot in a recent update, I wasn't able to find anything about it

Guess I'll go with the 62a then, in addition he's cheaper in terms of xp

[hot ingot]

just grinding the french light tanks man i love the 13 90

[spark tiger]

Which gun is better? The one on the super conq or 215b's?

[merry current]

215b is far better what
even with cali u have higher dpm and 🅱️esh

[solid gate]

Imagine if they added the ww2 tanks that have the tires

That would be weird 😐

Plus maus should have a bit more armor

[plucky summit]

They did buff Maus' turret by 10mm

[rigid thunder]

20* iirc, 240 to 260

[plucky summit]

Nope, it’s 240 to 250

[rigid thunder]

the more you know

[solid gate]

The less I realise I know 💀

[plucky summit]

It’s 260 in PC if that makes you feel better

[rigid thunder]

thanks for the pity points

[plucky summit]

👍

[oak pollen]

I wonder what I'll get from ke-ni bundle because I already have ke-ni

[empty helm]

Credits

[dreamy osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/872385852720967720/1012238315690414090/IMG_0898.jpg?width=526&height=702

Tiger/T54E1?

[empty helm]

Oh wow

Look like some gaijin employees thought t54e1 turret is Porsche tiger turret

[sleek apex]

WT with the historical accuracy right there

[sleek apex]

Sell your ke-ni before getting the bundle so you would get 50 golds instead of credits.

[oak pollen]

Ok

By the way, how many credits?@sleek apex

[wise moth]

You get 50 gold regardless

@oak pollen You get 50 gold. Ke Ni is a collector, so it sells for gold, not credits

[trail laurel]

Which should i get? T62A or OBJ 140

[lyric copper]

T-62A is more forgiving

but 140 is it’s own thing

[sleek apex]

Oh

[karmic dome]

Is anyone have problems with tiger 1 baron camo offers though my tiger 1 already have over 1k battles and 65 masteries but no offers at all

[sleek apex]

Tiger 1 Baron pop up offer was only during 9.1 update, you would have to wait months for it to be available on the camo section.

[karmic dome]

Ay thx for the information

[oak pollen]

Oh

[opaque flicker]

Vindicator is nerfed sturmtiger in disguise

Anyways if the sturmtiger was a rare collectable, what tier would yall put it in and how would you keep it balanced yet keep the 380mm gun?

[plucky merlin]

Is2h or t95e2 which one shall i get?

[thorny smelt]

T54E2

[plucky merlin]

I didnt ask for that i need to choose between those 2

[empty helm]

They are poo don't buy them

[plucky merlin]

Please just choose one of them

[empty helm]

Ehhh is2h

Still better than having no armor

[violet timber]

Neither

[plucky merlin]

Thankyou

[plucky merlin]

I will choose one its just for collection so instead of neither which one is best to choose?

[violet timber]

I’d honestly just say go for a better tank that’s worth more so you aren’t wasting gold

[plucky merlin]

The thing is i already have everything else thats in the shop lmao just not those 2

[thorny smelt]

Chrysler K is more worth it than IS-2Sh

[violet timber]

Just wait for other things to come into the shop

[plucky merlin]

Like which tanks and ill just buy both of them

[thorny smelt]

Jagdtiger 8,8 cm, Chimera, Keiler, etc.

[plucky merlin]

I see i still need the 2015 variant of the jag 8.8

[glad flax]

are IS from russia and IS-2 from china basically the same tank?

[empty helm]

IS from the Soviet line is IS-1
And IS-2 in the China line is IS-2

Is-1

[safe cedar]

No the IS is an early version. The Chinese version is technically a type of IS-2m. Otherwise they are the same.

[past crane]

The IS in the game is (or at least was) an amalgamation of the IS-1 and early model IS-2 tanks, kind of like the KV in WoT way back when. However now that the 85 mm guns have been removed from the IS, it’s technically just an early model IS-2 or the prototype version of one with the D10T gun. (IS-100).

The Chinese IS-2 is a later model IS-2 (different front hull) and a fictional 122 mm gun at least from what I know- I’m not sure if the Chinese ever did a gun conversion on an IS-2 tank. This tank ingame lacks the protective skirting on the tracks added with the IS-2M modification, so the Chinese IS-2 is simply just a normal one in Chinese service, not an IS-2M.

In fact, China never operated IS-2M vehicles.

[hot ingot]

both are realy bad but if i had to chose id go with the T95

[plucky merlin]

Its settled i got both

[hot ingot]

my condolences

[plucky merlin]

No no

Absolute win

[opaque flicker]

Can we have an Italian tier III collectable to go along with the French UE-57?

The L3-37

Supposedly it held 3 people

[hot ingot]

nice little casket

[opaque flicker]

UE-57: nice and open, you can feel the breeze

L3-35:

[empty helm]

Dummy cannon?

[opaque flicker]

But I think it would make a great addition considering its actually smaller than the UE-57 about half a foot smaller

[opaque flicker]

I dont know where the ammo rack is and how they reach around to reload, but I'm scared to ask

But no seriously yall, should there be a new tiny tank?

And I imagine it having the same concept as the UE-57, you get it through earning certificates

[empty helm]

Well we have this

[opaque flicker]

Wide

[empty helm]

It's strong enough to hold the driver and the gunner weight

[opaque flicker]

Okay but we have the AT-1, UE-57, and Ke-Ni as the smallest tanks, why not place a couple more into that group?

Small tanks are fun, and a couple more would make it so much more enjoyable

[empty helm]

I don't think ke ni is small

[opaque flicker]

It is pretty small

[obsidian hawk]

hi how chat with Alexandra Matyush#3017?

[solid gate]

You don't, that's a privilege given to only the inner circle

also, this is #vehicles-discussion , since when is Alexandra a vehicle? 🧐 I suggest #Alexandra-fans-discussion

Perhaps even #everyone-loves-Alexandra-Matyush (just to make her cringe if she sees this 😈)

[obsidian hawk]

sorry im noob in discord and i do not know where chat
but i want speak with she about create youtube channel and i want know no problem with copyright

[solid gate]

Ah, all good no need to apologise : D, but she doesn't allow anyone access to DMs, so try her pinging her to ask if you can DM in #news-discussion maybe

[stuck imp]

should i get E100 or fv183?

[hot ingot]

E100

[prime tundra]

nerf badger pls

[solid gate]

Aint no way you said nerf badger 💀💀💀💀💀

[plucky summit]

The traverse was a little uncalled for, but alright

[violet timber]

Badger 100% needs a nerf lmao

[solid gate]

Sounds like a skill issue 😂

[plucky summit]

Thinkint Badger is balanced -> skill issue

[solid gate]

So you think a badger can carry games

[plucky summit]

Carrying Games is not what it takes to be called OP

[solid gate]

A badger is not op there is no aspect of the tank which is game breaking

[plucky summit]

I’m not even gonna argue with you if you think it takes extremities to be called OP 🤦‍♂️

[solid gate]

It can get penned when hull down it can get outplayed by meds yet its op…

[plucky summit]

OP doesn’t mean the tank can’t die 💀

[solid gate]

I never said it cant die did i secondly what about the badger is op because last time i check ho ri is apparently op cuz its gun can pen everything

[violet timber]

It can get penned hulldown only by TDs running cali

[plucky summit]

Death stems from getting outplayed bruh

[solid gate]

I guarantee i am a better player even if u try pull up both our stats

[plucky summit]

I didn’t ask for your stats

[violet timber]

And now you're trying to use stats instead of pulling up an actual argument. Nice one.

[solid gate]

You literally said i have skill issue for thinking its balanced which i never said it was i just said it wasnt op which apparently instantly means i said balanced

[plucky summit]

I didn’t specify what skill you had an issue with 😂🤣

[violet timber]

It is OP. It has the highest DPM at tier 10, traverse so fast that it can't be circled, and armor that works well, even when not hulldown.

[solid gate]

So therefore tortise is op cuz it has more dpm kran is op cuz it has armor and ho ri op cuz it cant be circled

[violet timber]

Neither of those have all three in one tank.

[plucky summit]

So you’re saying Badger is unbalanced, but also saying it’s not OP?

[violet timber]

Also Ho-Ri can easily be circled

[solid gate]

E50m dont exist??

[plucky summit]

Answer the question.

[solid gate]

The tank isnt op but it isn’t balanced its in between

[plucky summit]

🤦‍♂️

[violet timber]

Badger has 500 more dpm than the E50M, more pen, more gun depression, and better armor. E50M Has a turret and mobility, as well as a lil bit of accuracy

[mighty kestrel]

badger is not op, it is one of the better tanks in tier 10 though

e5 is op though

[plucky summit]

Uh huh, E5 😂

[violet timber]

E5?

[solid gate]

Alright so apparently because a tank can hull down and has dpm and apparently cant get circled it means its op last time i check it can get penned and it can get circled

[violet timber]

E5 hasn't been OP for a while

[mighty kestrel]

it is op lol, it is a badger with a turret and more speed

[solid gate]

There is no way its winning 1v1 with a t100lt

[plucky summit]

Alright, let’s deal with your faulty reasoning

Badger is unbalanced, and you said, and we need to nerf it to make it balanced, a general good aspect of a game 🤷‍♂️

[violet timber]

Then Type 71 isn't OP because it can be penned and can be circled!

[solid gate]

Aint no way @mighty kestrel u predicted it😂😂😂

[violet timber]

How is E5 comprable to the badger?

[mighty kestrel]

😂 💀

[solid gate]

If u think type is op there is something wrong with you…

[plucky summit]

Okay, you instantly lost all my respect of your debates.

[violet timber]

If you think the type is balanced, there's something wrong with you...

[mighty kestrel]

it has both armor, can both hulldown, both have a gun, both have more than 400 alpha, both can drive on the map

[violet timber]

E5 has 400 alpha.

[plucky summit]

Yup, starting to think he meant E3

[solid gate]

So your telling me type is op because it has a bad gun can get penned anywhere on the turret has 6 degrees of gun depression and its armor can get penned by every prem ammo there id alr

[mighty kestrel]

i meant both have more than 399 alpha

[violet timber]

Badger is an assault TD, E5 is a heavium. They are not comparable.

[lyric copper]

note that you said prammo

wow prammo butters armour who knew

except the type 71 can just press A or D and still get bounces

[solid gate]

You can easily pen without prem aswell hope u realise..

[plucky summit]

Type can also choose 9 degrees, and has a strong turret despite your thoughts

[violet timber]

And if you use prammo, suddenly the Type's dpm deficit is fixed!

[lyric copper]

literal tank made for the 43% moron
its made to be strong for the morons, and its then stronger for the better players

[mighty kestrel]

type71 is worse version of e5

[violet timber]

Type can also just chase after meds with the sus equipment

@mighty kestrel Now you're just trolling

[plucky summit]

Stop talking.

1v1 isn’t a good indicator of balance

[solid gate]

So in 1v1 you think type wins all day???

[violet timber]

Yes.

[mighty kestrel]

okay ill stop talking and let the real super unicums discuss op tanks in tier 10

[lyric copper]

1v1 depends on too many factors and therefore isnt a good indicator if a tank is balanced or not

judging from the type 71's stats, its broken

[solid gate]

Okay so do you know the tank can get easily penned in the turret ring 💀

[plucky summit]

And the tank can hide said turret ring? 😱

[mighty kestrel]

e5 also can hide his turret ring

[violet timber]

1V1 is not a good indicator for how good a tank is in a 7v7 game

[solid gate]

In a 1v1 its never winning against 113 so does that mean 113 is op??

[lyric copper]

anyone know the relative WR of the Type 71?

[plucky summit]

Def better than E5 I can guarantee that

[mighty kestrel]

prob lower than e5 relative wr

[solid gate]

Idk what it is but this is mine

[violet timber]

"Badger isn't OP"

[lyric copper]

i mean, its a tank made for players like juan_es2009 who keep complaining that the unicum who knows how to play the game can kill them

[solid gate]

So therefore v4 is op?? So therefore e3 is op is4 op

[mighty kestrel]

e5 isnt even on the same level as all these tanks, it is way better and op

[plucky summit]

This man fr thrown out 75% WR in the Type 71 and thinks it's not OP

[solid gate]

Cuz its not op lmao i know how the tank works and know everything about it

[lyric copper]

"its my personal skill" 🤓

more like the tank does 75% of the work lol

[violet timber]

You clearly don't.

[mighty kestrel]

type 71 not op, e5 way better

[plucky summit]

Even with that knowledge, you shouldn't practically pull 75% of any tank

[solid gate]

I mean i can do a 70 in tvp

[lyric copper]

esp after 200 battles

[plucky summit]

But you both are trolling, so I'm gonna stop talking about it

[mighty kestrel]

you are trolling to say type is op

[lyric copper]

wonder if you have 70% elsewhere on tanks with more than 200 battles

[plucky summit]

Hey guys check out this hidden mechanic

[solid gate]

I mean i gone up by 40-50 games in tvp and jts still above 70

These stats are old so they aint as accurate i aint bothered to pull em up if u wanna see just check urself how i do in the tank

[mighty kestrel]

let them be, when you get 75% in a tank, they literrally said that its all cus of the tank. and like 90% of players have maybe 50% in type71, but lets ignore that

[balmy compass]

🤯

[violet timber]

Type's average WR was 54.6% in update 9.1

[solid gate]

Say less we know how clear of them we are

[mighty kestrel]

54% is op? oh damn

[violet timber]

Badger's was 55.6%

[solid gate]

Wow last time i check that is some bad wr ngl

[plucky summit]

Just pull E5's and they lose their footing of that argument

[mighty kestrel]

chickenman gonna say something very important

[solid gate]

Actually nah if you have the tank play it and i wanna see how good it will perform if you will use it then we will see if its “op”

[violet timber]

E5 doesn't make the top 20 💀

[mighty kestrel]

i said e5 is way beyond these tanks, it is much better so they dont show e5 here, prob got 75% relative wr

[solid gate]

4005 can clip your entire badger 🤫

[lyric copper]

average winrate shows more of which tanks compensate more and do more of the work for their driver

[violet timber]

E5 was actually the 8th lowest avg wr

[solid gate]

Go onto better player wr if u haven’t already

[violet timber]

That's what relative WR is

[plucky summit]

With all four HE shells penning, which shouldn't ever happen if the Badger has a brain 🗿

[solid gate]

If i come up behind you without u know i will clip you mate

[violet timber]

Just for you, 65%+

[mighty kestrel]

yes so much difference between a tank with 52% and a tank with 49%, its like deciding 3 games out of 100, im joking btw, all tanks perform the same , its not that a type71 will get you more wins than a e5

[plucky summit]

"without u know"

I'd be an idiot to not know a friggin barn is flanking me

[solid gate]

If i aint spotted how you gonna know

[lyric copper]

naturally it will just be more effective

[plucky summit]

You're a joke, man 😂

[balmy compass]

all tanks preform the same

what

[violet timber]

Now, Type may not appear here, but the Badger does!

[solid gate]

So therefore type isnt op

[plucky summit]

Be a shame if mods heard about trolling

[lyric copper]

^ therefore shows us which tanks are most moron proofed

[violet timber]

Badger is in the top 3 of both the good and bad players graphs. If that is not OP, not sure what is.

[mighty kestrel]

lol, if they see you telling all of us that badger and type71 are op, you gonna go down first

[balmy compass]

damm, all the superheavies are there

[hollow belfry]

Also this
Badger pretty much has a neandertal-tier skill floor

[plucky summit]

I hope you have lots of faith in that statement.

[violet timber]

Type doesn't appear in the 0-45%, but it is in the top 10 of the other 3

[lyric copper]

haha what challenging and engaging gameplay where all i must do is look at my enemy or towards red streaks across my screen because i do not know how to play the game haha yes

[mighty kestrel]

im a man of faith

[violet timber]

Superheavies are easier to play 🤷‍♂️

[plucky summit]

You believe E5 is OP, got it

[lyric copper]

all this because WG prefer the opinion of juan_es2009 because he has money compared to a better player with none or less money

[mighty kestrel]

not op, super strong compared to your op badger

[balmy compass]

some of them ig, I don't think Maus is very easy to play

[violet timber]

You know what tank doesn't appear in any of the graphs?

[plucky summit]

I really really want Posit1ve to be lurking rn

[violet timber]

Maus is vey easy to play.

[lyric copper]

just press W at the red people and half the time it works

no need for angling

the ceiling of skill on the maus is angling the turret

[hollow belfry]

17cm HE is my cure for Badgers

[plucky summit]

In my definition of it, Maus has a low skill ceiling

[balmy compass]

ig I fight against more skilled players then others, people shoot prammo at me 90% of the time...
I still need to use skill to use the Maus or I will die early and be detrimental to my team

[solid gate]

@woven zenith as your a good player is badger or type op in ur opinion

[lyric copper]

thing is, statistically, most maus players can just yolo and still win

[violet timber]

For pubs, yes. For comp, it has a higher skill ceiling imo

[mighty kestrel]

maus has high skill ceiling lol, you need to know how to bounce and do damage at the same time

[plucky summit]

You can't do both at the same time if the enemy has a few brain cells x-x

[balmy compass]

I see, Maus has low skill floor

[violet timber]

Just turn the turret, when the enemy aims away just turn and shoot then angle back

[lyric copper]

you just look at the average superheavy player and you can tell they have lower skill ceilings naturally

because their armour and hp pool allows them to be stupid

[hollow belfry]

The average Maus enjoyer yoloing in the open, then angling towards you and wiggling while getting hammered in the sides by five of your allies:

[mighty kestrel]

there is a difference between a e100 in a bush in spawn, and a e100 in the middle of the map, bouncing from all directions and hitting all their shots, so a lot of skill involved

[balmy compass]

low skill floor higher skill ceiling

[lyric copper]

most intelligent superheavy main has sub 80 IQ ngl

[solid gate]

Just get good and dont complain

[lyric copper]

yeah get good whilst their tank compensates for their lack of skill entirely

[plucky summit]

"E5 is OP"
Get good

[mighty kestrel]

i bet i can outplay you 100% when i use e5 against you using your most op tank in game

[violet timber]

183 is OP imo guys. It's alpha damage is too strong

[hollow belfry]

The E100 has better alpha than the Grille, and therefore is a better TD for sniping from the spawn🧠

[plucky summit]

1v1 doesn't matter, buddy

[mighty kestrel]

in regular games i mean, i can do better job for team i bet

[lyric copper]

superheavy mains explaining... something? idk they have underdeveloped brains

[plucky summit]

Okay 🤷‍♂️

Go ahead and do pro plays with your E5 right now for your teammates

[balmy compass]

"guys buff the T-100 LT armor, its so weak :("

[lyric copper]

guys nerf the leo 1 its accuracy is broken!!1!11!11

[hollow belfry]

Who doesn't love having to aim for the weak spots of a light tank's turret💀

[mighty kestrel]

okay lemme send screen in 5 minutes lemme do quick 5k damage

[balmy compass]

Vickers:

[plucky summit]

Have fun

[violet timber]

personal experiences =/= statistical evidence.

[plucky summit]

Maybe they think E5 is OP because they're using it against EU players or something, but I don't want to think that's plausible

[lyric copper]

theyre trolling obv

[balmy compass]

"E5 is OP because I keep winning in it"

[plucky summit]

IS-3D is OP because me 90% 🗿

[balmy compass]

do you guys think E5 is better since 9.1 or is it still meh

[violet timber]

I personally like it more

[lyric copper]

could be better

but imo the Type 71 should have become a beefier chieftain with a way worse gun

[balmy compass]

I have seen you say that alot

[violet timber]

I also have a 100% wr and 5,061 avg damage in the T57 Heavy, therefore it's op

[lyric copper]

id prefer another hulldown tank than to an MBT

[balmy compass]

how about WG add a more skill based tank like the Leo 1 💀

[lyric copper]

nah even then the Leo 1 is just a sad tank

haha yes aim for 7 years whilst someone just slams one into your turret

you cant peek constantly under fear that someone sees you as free damage

"just use teammates as cover" people are both stupid and smart and want damage so they shoot the german sniper medium

"just flank" may as well play a TVP and clip dump and run

"2nd line" like it even exists in blitz

270/320 pen for the leopard 1 because its funny but can still be murdered by simply looking at it with any alpha higher than 400

[balmy compass]

well then looks like WG will keep adding strong tanks with either insane damage, armor or speed
oh wait-

[lyric copper]

Leo 1's dpm is entirely situational at best and cant be used well in the current hulldown meta

esp if you wanna conserve HP to the end of the game

small test, double Leo 1 platoon

the one that takes most of the shots just so happen to deal less damage, almost like being made of saussage wrappers doesnt help you use dpm

and the other one gets the damage, almost like getting ignored in any tank lets you farm

[balmy compass]

ight, just double toon in TVPs 💀

[lyric copper]

whats even funnier about the TVP is that its only slightly slower than a leo 1 and is more suited to the meta

i firmly believe the leo 1 is one of only few tanks in the tier X graveyard

[balmy compass]

what would be the other few

[lyric copper]

the 113G FT, though for the fact WG gave it an identity crisis between being a worse E3 or chonkier 268

the VK72 used to be there, but i guess tungsten gave it some life back?

the E5 still has one good quality that gives it life support

[balmy compass]

Nah, the Tungsten hardly did anything for the VK 72, it’s still a situational tank, tungsten just means more damage for 1 or 2 shots

[lyric copper]

its really just a few tanks i consider that need an actual rework

Leo 1 cant do what the PC Leo 1 can do, thats just down to Blitz's design and the Leo 1's role as a 2nd line sniper support

you cant snipe at 200-350m without it being considered camping

the Leo 1 in PC fills and actual niche that needs to be filled

in Blitz, there is no such niche, most mediums are accurate enough anyways, and the 200-500 DPM advantage it has over its peers is negated by its complete lack of armour and its fast reload, meaning to actually use that DPM means peaking multiple times

[balmy compass]

Not many maps have views that far, and if the maps do those are common camping spots 90% of people know and avoid

[lyric copper]

before 9.1 I still would say to take an E50M or T-62A if you want good DPM and accuracy, funnier was the fact that both could have the same dispersion but have better gun handling

[balmy compass]

Yeah, I got sniper medal once on dead rail in E 50 M 💀

[lyric copper]

and if you wanna snipe with .244, play a grille and stop people from playing the game because of your tank type

upside-down triangles really scare the living daylights outta any player

the cracks for me at least first showed when the T62A DPM buff, and then the Vickers Light

you trade DPM for a LT with LT camo, armour (WHAT?) and HE pen that could mean the VL could far out DPM the Leo 1

and then they buffed the 4202 to 60kph? (Was the Leo 1 not irrelevant enough?)

[balmy compass]

So in the end you could use the Leo 1 but a whole lot of other tanks will preform far better with the same or better stats

[lyric copper]

before 9.1, the difference between the DPM of the 62A and Leo 1 was less than 100

@balmy compass yes

its playable, and when it works, it works, but in the current meta, guarantees are stronger than potential

something like an STB is far more consistent not only because it has -11 gun dep, but because it can put some trust in the turret to allow the STB driver some time to aim a good shot

consistency in wotb is key

which is why im a big fan of the 128s on the borsig and waffle

being able to hit your shots with better aim time and shell vel in the case of the Borsig, not having to rely on retcal as much, and having better shell velocity whilst keeping the advantage of spall liner and retcal in the waffle (and the secret -10 gundep after 120 degrees of turret rotation) is so much more appealing to me personally as a player than praying i hit a 600 alpha with sub 800 shell vel because i wanna aim faster without having to use retcal/ i dont have retcal

having to drop GLD to ensure a 600 hits is imo, a bad trade, even with retcal

please people, try out both with the 12.8 cm guns, you will be suprised

[balmy compass]

Wdym the secret -10 gun dep, and for which tank

I know the borsig doesn’t have anything more then -5
But the Waffle just needs to aim about 35 degrees left or right and you get -10 gun dep

[lyric copper]

Waffle with the 128 L61 can actually depress the gun -10° after 120° or turret rotation in either direction

you also get a crazy elevation angle which allows for some really unorthodox spots to be used

[balmy compass]

Yeah, become anti-air or sit on the side of a hill 💀

[lyric copper]

on the south spawn on mines, you can almost use the hill behind to peer over the central ridge

[wanton marlin]

Give charioteer AP shells so it has the 3rd cali rule and 5 degrees of shell normalization

[violet timber]

Just use the small gun.

[wise moth]

3 caliber rule applies to APCRs as well

[balmy compass]

Would the Vickers Light be considered a “easy” tank to play like the E 50 M?

[wanton marlin]

I still want the 350 alpha

[sleek apex]

Since the armor are sometimes troll its like a small medium tank imo

[wanton marlin]

Vickers light (in my opinion) is best tier 10 light.

[plucky summit]

So much for that statement

[silent pivot]

Vickers is a good light but T100 lt is still quite dum

But E50M can be the 'do it all' middium

[balmy compass]

Yeah, I know all of the Russian tier X tanks are pretty good rn apart from the Obj. 263

Although I’m biased against Russian tech tree tanks and refuse to grind them for a while

[sleek apex]

What do you guys think if M60 ingame gets the M60A1 turret option? (Tank below are actually M60A3 but they look almost the same anyways)

This would make it more different to the m48, the frontal cheek weakspot would be smaller making it stronger on hulldown but maybe give it the commander mg cupola back as a weakspot

[safe cedar]

No, that's just bad idea. Way harder to protect cupola than weakspot next to mantle.

[sleek apex]

Would look weird if it does not have it, maybe buff gun dep to 10°

Or have it the Israeli Magach 6's cupola
@safe cedar

[balmy brook]

Man the t 34 is garbage its even hard to go agonist a lower tier tank with this straight out GARBAGE🤮

[sleek apex]

Angle, also dont completely rely on armor since its a medium tank and not a heavy

[balmy brook]

@sleek apex without a good team it's useless to play this I guess I'll quit 😔

[sleek apex]

That seems to be a thing throughout the game so yeah oof

[safe cedar]

If it was not a weakspot they could add it.

[gilded badge]

I got the WZ 112-2 from a crate. Does someone know the armor thickness of the upper plate and the turret front? Or say me where I can look it up

[hollow belfry]

Blitzhangar.com or the armor inspector app

[gilded badge]

Thanks

[ancient iron]

y'all nothing is funnier than turret trolling in the cent 7/1 while hatch sniping, to upset a beeg dumb heavy into pushing on you, only for said heavy to discover WAAAAAY too late that on the other side of that ridge you were using is ALL the TDs XD

ESPECIALLY funny when said Heavy is the rear-turreted German T9, so they double fail because no gun depression XD

[feral palm]

I really wish they could add is-2 double barrel on wot blitz

[thorny smelt]

IS-2-II?

[feral palm]

Yeah

[hoary lake]

I'm reading some stat on the t54e2 and is it serious have better turret armor than the E5 ?
Asking because I haven't checked the armor profile in 3d

[empty helm]

T54e2 have 260mm turret armor abd e5 have 203mm

[hollow sequoia]

not to mention better angles

[solid gate]

That’s not effective armour

[empty helm]

Well that's the armor thickness

[solid gate]

Yeah, but you have to check on armour inspector for the real armour values

[empty helm]

He said turret armor

[solid gate]

Yes, so to find the real turret armour values you have to check online, the in game numbers are if the armour was completely vertical, which it’s not (there’s no way the e5 turret can be penned by a 200 mm pen gun, apart from the cupola maybe)

[blissful hamlet]

The 203mm part is mostly hidden by the mantlet

Look

[solid gate]

Oh, there actually is a 203 mm part, I use HEAT to pen those cheeks 😬

But regardless the armour values in game don’t usually mean anything

[sleek apex]

"Crew ergonomics? Whats that?" - the guy who came up with double barrel soviet heavy tanks

[blissful hamlet]

The recoil would just smack the turret

[night ridge]

I need silver coins for t28

[dusty zinc]

hey what's the m41d restoration price in credits?

[violet timber]

Sell price + 10%

[dusty zinc]

but how much is it

[violet timber]

I don’t know the exact number

[brave juniper]

In game values just reflect the highest amount of armor the designated part has(frontal,sides,rear)

Not the actual overall value of armor