tank-balance-discussion

[muted rampart]

This is nonsense.

E5 is faster. E5 is more armored. E5 has more gun depression. E5 doesn't have rear turret placement. E5 is more versatile overall.

E5 is better in every single thing besides the gun.

[tired ingot]

wdym e5 is faster

[muted rampart]

What am i suposed to mean? It's literally faster. Not by much ever since 215b's top speed was buffed, but still.

Their p2w ratio is pretty much the same, while E5 has slightly higher top speed

[wicked quest]

E6 :

[muted rampart]

E6 is insanely broken though. So what i said checks out

[lusty meteor]

jg pz e 100 needs a big buff

it lacks mobility for todays blitz

[fresh crane]

E5 isn't really better than the 215b
It's just a lot more easier to play and a lot more consistent
And yea e6 is blatantly overpowered

[muted rampart]

Never said it's better. But it absolutely by no means needs any buffs

[fresh crane]

Yea I was agreeing with you
And I didn't say it needed buffs

The turret, and the turret only, by itself, is stronger than the e5s turret because it's hatch is basically impossible to hit
But obviously it's a 215b so it's akward
And e5 turret is still very good

[nimble anchor]

Can someone plz rell me what this is
Like i can join the battles
It shows this when i try to

[lone warren]

I had this issue as well. I closed and reopened the game and I could battle again

*Not the appropriate channel for this though

[primal yacht]

✅ long_04430 was banned.

[sour moon]

I think the Lowe deserves some attention from the developers. Of the older premium tanks (T34 and IS6), all received balance updates to compete with current tanks, except the Lowe.

[dusky zinc]

And intervening for credits? 😭

[nimble anchor]

Thanks for the info
Im sorry for the channel
I just saw that u can talk with devs here so I just said it over here
Sorry I'll make sure to use appropriate channels

[fresh crane]

I'm also waiting

[pure pike]

what the wg, how a t54e1 can pen chiftain mk 6 turret when face hugging

[ivory quiver]

Because the chieftain mk 6 turret has weakspots….

[cinder shard]

The Chieftains turret has quiet a big cupola and also some other weakspots on the turret.
It's best to play it hull-down, keep moving a little and use the gun-depression it offers to make it harder to hit.

[pure pike]

t54e1?

[cinder shard]

Yep.
(At the bottom: "Shooter: T54E1")

[pure pike]

f, then what is the meaning of hull down

[cinder shard]

Basically hiding a tanks hull/using gun depression like this (Yellow = cover that can't be destroyed)

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[junior gate]

p2w ratio?

[muted rampart]

Power to weight ratio

[waxen geode]

Does anybody know why my CS 44 tier 7 medium Polish tank came with purchased equipment? Dude the equipment was already set. I didn't buy it and I have no history of playing this tank.

[heavy rock]

I solved the problem to rinoceronte all it needs is more weight like make it 50+tons I hate the fact it's easily out weight by fv(theshítbarn) it's just too light to be an ht

[fresh crane]

Why is weight an issue?

[clear flax]

Will the kanonjadpanzer move up to tier 9 in the current blitz this December?

[unique leaf]

Ig so when kpfpz move up to tier 10

[lavish willow]

For Devs: You can also apply this to Regular but while keeping the same constraints on tanks and use winrate instead of rating. This would reduce instances of bots, afks and trolls for players that take the game more seriously which would also reduce instances of players rage quitting.

[tepid warren]

I wish the KPz 70 would get more gun depression after being turned into a tier X.

[uneven pike]

I want WG to at least buff Kpz 70 HE alpha when moving to T10, minimally 700, 780 like T49 is good too if nerf HE pen a bit

[tepid warren]

I think the same alpha as the Sheridan is fair, since after all they historically have a very similar gun.

[remote sluice]

when can we expect more details about the december rebalance?

also kpz 70’s tier 10 stats seem suboptimal. 2.6k dpm with rammer & double food for a 560 alpha gun at tier 10 is pathetic

[unique leaf]

Yo guys may i ask u, does chieftain get buffed or no so i would not make a mistake to buy that tank

[muted rampart]

No, at least not in reforged

[muted rampart]

Though i wouldn't advise buying any T10s as of now, since T10 rebalance is incoming

[unique leaf]

Yea bro ik that too but 16.5k offer is insane

[hollow wind]

It's the same chassis as it always had, the gun being changed with the last rebalance gave it a hesh gun. If you want it for the chassis then it's fine enough. But the hesh gun can be a bit dissappointing sometimes as all hesh guns are. If you like hesh it is nice enough lol

[unique leaf]

Aww dude, the offer drives me insane

[tepid warren]

I really hope they at least give the TNH T VZ. 51 a double-shot

[flat zephyr]

Please don't take make kpz70 a tier 10

[formal timber]

man, wargaming should buff on lycan accuracy, i mean i can make mi bombo meme with that tank, imagine was 50-100 meter from enemy tank with smallest circle and then Miss the shoot

[hallow nebula]

I’m not sure if this has been brought up, but I was inspired by the special mechanic of T-803, a tier 11 tank from wotpc, and I think this is a good change for slow paced tanks like Minotauro

Currently the minotauro’s reload goes like this

Shell 1: 21s
Shell 2: 8.8s
Shell 3: 7.9s

What if the reload can decrease 0.5s/1s for every successful pen that dealt dmg, up to 2s

For eg, if the mino has a full magazine and it pens the first shell, dealing dmg. Next time the reload will be 7.4s

Then it penetrates enemy target again and deals dmg

So the reload of the 2nd shell goes from 8.8s to 8.3s

The reload goes back to the original value once the streak is broken. And its shell specific

To prevent abuse of this mechanism, he shells dealing splash dmg won’t lead to this reload decrease

The exact decrease for every pen that deals dmg, as well as the maximum reduction in reload are both negotiable

What do y’all think of this idea (assuming no one has brought up before)?

[lucid lotus]

Bro what in the world is going on? Moving kpz70 to t10??? The appeal was big alpha against t8s and now it aint any special at t10, you got to be kidding.... It isnt even an op tank, HE dmg is dogwater

[fickle tinsel]

lets be real it was always bottom tier way more often than it was top tier

[terse cairn]

Kpz 70 is fine as it is. Idk why they thought of making it tier 10 all of a sudden for literally no reason .

[wary saddle]

The trait of being sandwiched by two most popular tiers

[lethal tinsel]

What was the balancing Team thinking with the kpz 70??? Went from a good Tier 9 to a mediocre T10

[terse cairn]

Give 260 the wot pc armour, its old 420 alpha and more heat penetration of like 330mm (base)

[fickle tinsel]

If they buffed kpz alpha again to make it a less armored more mobile alternative to e100 that's be interesting

[fallow eagle]

Would compete with 114 sp2 then

[fickle tinsel]

worse armor more mobile

nobody would describe the 114 as mobile, the ideal kpz niche is having the alpha and mobility

[sturdy solar]

Not the kpz nerf after i buy it

I think this is false advertising

I didn’t plan to buy a t10?? What on earth wg thinking if they are even thinking

[hard sapphire]

It's not the only one. Other tier 8s are being moved, and they aren't even ones being done because they are crazy easy to play and are broken. The Vicker's MBT, Keiler, 59 Patton and more are being moved to 9 instead of just being buffed alot, but not all of the tanks being moved aren't good. While with others like the Kpz and Keiler the tank is fine to play at that tier and is seemingly getting little to no buffs to compensate, let alone a significant reason as to why. What was wrong with these tanks at tier 8 and 9? And let's no kid ourselves that these will be the only ones.

I truly don't understand their logic behind this

[mystic gorge]

Agreed. Not only that but 560 alpha is still more than enough with the 2500 dpm it’s getting. It’ll to good at the tier

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[nimble zodiac]

Nerf gsor fearless

[snow rock]

the duality of man

[wide lagoon]

Isn’t the 59 Patton average at tier 8 rn? Makes no sense for it to be a tier 9

[spice blade]

why is it showing login is temporarily restricted?

[upper knot]

For Reforged? The test servers won't be open until sometime on October 2 (CEST). No specific time was announced; they'll be ready when they are ready.

[spice blade]

😭 thnx

[indigo bronze]

Hear me out
Kpz missile

[brittle cargo]

No way...

[onyx ocean]

BZ-75 Really needs Penetration ammo!! you are adding more and more armored tanks and it is quite unfair that 1 vs 1 BZ has a very reduced chance of winning the fight.. " terribly long reload time and with AP some Heavy and TD are impenetrable from the front and the player does not even have to be a good player. and BZ-75 is NOT the best maneuvering tank at 0 speed

[undone vortex]

Tier 6 habicha is very very slow move

[quick hearth]

please dont made kpfpz70 on 10level

[abstract fern]

This is insane idea...

[quick hearth]

its your personal opinion
and kpfpz70 on 10 level it is bad idea bacause thise tank not cool not goot not bad on 9 but on 10 it will bad
these up of tank good on 9level but not on 10

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[sturdy solar]

its already t10 on test3

[formal timber]

Man...

[fallow coral]

Bro they made the tornvagn into an autoreloader in reforged 😭

[glad flower]

Do you like the new torn?

[hard grove]

Hello

Can whe play with me ?

[cinder shard]

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[slender fog]

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[primal yacht]

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[hollow ice]

the KPZ 70 in reforged is really good now pls dont neft it🙏

[dim ibex]

They will probably keep it the way it is + the votes in #coming-soon got alot of thumbsup

[stoic nimbus]

what

[weak stump]

These up tier for some of these tanks shouldn't even be considered as some aint even good to begin with like T 2020 and others are perfect in their original teirs devs can you not do any tier changes for these tanks for instance if want a MBT70 at tier 10 you already have the Bz 75 for that role so can we focus the human resources on other issues that are more important

[prime stone]

wat is up with the ammo buttons

i’m ooold im 65 and i NEVER shoot heat…..i split between premium and regular ammo

now Blitz in its infinite wisdom has locked me out of customizing my ammo in reforge

FIX ammo for Full Custmization pls.

notice i said pls, but i meant something profane

hahaha

number two:

even at 60 frames game is choppy….yikes!

i may need glasses but i feel drunk playing the reforge game

3. remove the red heat lights on fired rounds or allow me to customize and remove it, very distracting

4. allow me to get rid of the attack button on my screen and get rid of my secondary fire button
   i never use them, a gain this is u war shaming not allowing me to customize my screen

ok i’m not done with complaints yet

but i’m tired and fatigued from driving in reforged feeling dizzy and drunk the whole time

or was that just me having a stroke or seizure?

[weak stump]

Further more if people only like the changes because MBT70 getting tungsten then cant we just add it when its already a tier 9 as it be simpler then just changing its tier entirely where it be nerfed from a fun tank to a forgettable since even if take out Bz 75 there Vz 55 that is also a better choice

[mellow cape]

[errant island]

How can I get a login link for the app?

iOS

[primal yacht]

✅ .mxrst_15 was banned.

[lone warren]

https://testflight.apple.com/join/qHCFGYmt

[oak smelt]

What do you do if it says beta is full?

[cinder shard]

There will be a new link given out soon.

[oak smelt]

Oh will I be able to join?

[cinder shard]

Everyone who can install the test-version should be able to take part

[oak smelt]

Ok because it says the whole beta is full and I want to take the test

When will the link be out for me to join?

[cinder shard]

Should be pretty soon
Keep an eye on #📢test-newsfeed , should pop up there

[cinder shard]

#🔧ut3-trouble-shooting message

[upper knot]

New link: https://testflight.apple.com/join/esfC62hd

[hollow ice]

no the kpz in reforged is stronger than what they said

[dim ibex]

Is it? Whats the difference between with what they said in #coming-soon ?

[regal rampart]

Keiler should stay at tier 8, and implement German HT E77

[hollow ice]

Its still using apcr as normal shell with 250mm pen but have 320mm premium

It also have 2600Hp, more than 2 sec faster reload with 2.8 aiming time

Armor and maneuverability is the same as they said

[lean forge]

why i cant use 152mm gun for SU152 annymore

[primal yacht]

✅ abbawaadeul8916 has been warned.

[lone terrace]

How can I upgrade last E-10 modules? (I didn't get enough cards to finish last modules during event / Season 4)

[fresh crane]

Maybe try going to the bottom of the "upgrades" tab and find a button showing the different guns

[flat nova]

The KPZ 70 needs a decrease reload time or just make the dmg per shot to 600.

[sturdy solar]

Thats actually better than waiting for a year for it to reload

Kpz 70 on the other hand

If they are really serious about making it t10 make it a side grade of E100 with pros and cons

[safe pewter]

Hi And how to get a kusaka

[meager relic]

làm thế nào để có đc chiếc xe tank này

[cinder shard]

English only please. To get a chance to win the Biter, post one of your battle results from Reforged in #1422945819220508693

[fickle tinsel]

kpz as a 600 alpha heavium would be peak

[left pumice]

Привіт

[drowsy tundra]

When will Hazard 2 come out?

[golden lagoon]

When hazard 1.5 comes out bruh

[earnest sinew]

Who can I talk to about the game we want here?
When the Dune Part Tree movie comes out, we need to convince them to bring back Groundtank, let them make a deal, I missed that tank's time, it's a mistake appearance
I can't wait for them to make a deal and bring Groundtank back when the Dune Part Tree movie comes out, I'll spend the money in my wallet just for him

[golden lagoon]

I think you have a crush on the groundtank

[upper knot]

Wargaming staff monitor all of these channels and report to those who can not check for themselves. #news-discussion and the other channels in this section are also popular among staff, but they do not often have the time to chat.

You don't really need to post the same comment in multiple channels. It will be seen by staff.

[nimble zodiac]

It's getting a pen buff?

[terse cairn]

In reforged it has 320 heat. It used to have 310 heat

[meager dawn]

320 heat in t10 💀

[fallow coral]

It actually is extremely strong now, 400 alpha, 3 shot autoreloader with a 2.7 sec intraclip.
It can definitely decimate tier 8s now

[frigid girder]

Hi wanted the APAC server but auto sent to N.A. any chance i can be set up with my prefered Apac account. I started the NA on invite from a freind but spend most of my time on APAC with my fellow aussies

[minor iris]

why did they nerf the Minotaur

[upper knot]

Try this and see if it helps: https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/article/36554/

[frigid girder]

thank you, but eneded up having to send a ticket which could take a week

my default server was already asia

[strange reef]

Give titan strife 8 degrees of gun dep

[waxen geode]

Is the Charlemagne worth it. They have it for 7.5k gold.

[cobalt forum]

Is the mk 6 is a good tank and should I buy it (I’m waiting for vk90)

[tepid warren]

Controversial opinion, but they should remove the single shot guns on the tier 7&8 of the mino line and buff the DPM of the autoreloaders.

[plush echo]

its okay, the HESH isnt that good on it compared to the charioteer

[terse cairn]

Its not that bad. You can have like 360mm using cali. Tanks such as rino, 60tp also have 320 base heat

[proven grotto]

Hey anyone having problems with Italians autoreloader? Why each clip reload bacame longer now? Minotauro became 7,10 and 22 second reload. Bisonte still 4 but for the last bullet was 22 second to?

[wicked quest]

They punish you if you shoot all your rounds

[waxen geode]

Thank you.

[plain sand]

Buff Dracula accuracy and pen Ong who agrees it’s too dated

[barren goblet]

It could use some DPM buff, but given how bad other mid tier light tanks are , its still good. I am aware its classified as medium ingame, but its light tank how it plays.

[plain sand]

👍

[proven grotto]

Yeah i know.. But 22 second is way too long.. Old wotb not that long.. And that what make it likeable

[river oracle]

no, it has too much speed

[old slate]

Does anyone think that the type 5 should be nerfed

[lone warren]

no

[bleak spire]

if you want to see what needs nerfing, go and play wotPC type 5

[terse cairn]

The last shell is a reserve shell

[proven grotto]

Yeah but bisonte only 16 sec before.. Why make it more longer.. Is it because i use ration on old wotb?

[unkempt hedge]

what are your thoughts on the t-10 kpz 70

other than the old hp tier 9 2136hp to 2600hp

[meager dawn]

currently it doesnt seem to be anything special, but its possible they will remove tungsten from the 60tp in December so that would make it a bit more unique

[unkempt hedge]

dosent feel like the balance is getting better hahah

[terse cairn]

Nooo! The tungsten is the thing that makes the 60tp so special and fun to drive

[primal juniper]

Buff the E3

[cinder shard]

Kind reminder to check this message on what form of feedback helps the most with balancing #tank-balance-discussion message

[fickle tinsel]

@brisk cedar hopefully y'all are eventually doing a full t8 rebalance but i'd like to ask you to especially look at the t8 td wz-120 1g ft. i think this tank is especially deserving of some attention because it used to be the most popular and coveted td for years and I think the reason the popularity fell off is because it can no longer serve its intended role. The tank may slip under the radar from a stats standpoint because it's still somewhat viable due to good camo and mobility (though more experienced players would just default to a tank like the skorp or su130) but its intended role of being a brawler is no longer feasible. The armor is extremely powercrept amidst all the buffs over the years to penetration values, especially medium tank pen, and now on top of that you have the cali buff too. The tank can no longer play its intended role as a mobile aggressive brawler that you can run into mediums and have them legitimately struggle to pen you and now has to be a second line camo reliant sniper that can easily get shredded for its very limited hp pool if you commit the slightest overaggression. if you compare it to modern brawling tds like the grom you can really see the powercreep, with the grom doing well over 500 alpha/shot at close range while having stronger armor and more hp. Slotting the wz-120 back in as an alternative option with less alpha and less hp but better armor and mobility i think would make it popular once again

[meager dawn]

e4 isn't fun because of low mobility, bad dispersion and slow turret traverse
Jag is quite hard/ not rewarding as it isnt suitable for sniping but cant compete properly with heavies on the heavyside or meds/lights anywhere, id like to see it either have improved mobility or much more health, even comparable to heavies such as the E100, at least it should have sandbags added, if thats too high a buff then id honestly not mind a lower alpha as a trade off, maybe 750/ tungsten removed

[fickle tinsel]

absolutely disagree on alpha nerf and top speed buff. that is just watering down tank attributes. every tank should not be clones with mid tier stats in every category

[meager dawn]

can you suggest a better way to make Jg viable, its a TD specifically designed to counter other tanks yet it just doesnt counter anything
if you can't whats the point of just saying my idea is terrible, an alpha change to grille successfully made it a viable tank so why not for Jg

[fickle tinsel]

by focusing on buffing attributes that make sense as strong points of the tank such as its alpha/dpm/armor. wg has an issue right now where they're trying to make very tank middle of the road in every stat and it's destroying the diversity of different options in the game

[meager dawn]

those wont change anything about how the Jg works, the armour will never be buffed to the point where you cant just cut through it with heat, cant give the Jg more dpm as it already has nearly 3k as well as amazing pen and making the alpha any higher will just make it a better 183

[fickle tinsel]

armor sets it apart from the 183. i think this is more an issue with you playing the tank incorrectly as you're saying it's "not suitable for sniping".. the jag isn't a sniping tank.. why would you ever snipe in the jag thats the role of a tank like the 268

your suggestion with sand bags, maybe turning speed make more sense though, that'd allow it to become a more suitable second line tank as it should be

[meager dawn]

yes thats why im saying it needs to be strong on either heavyside or medside

[meager dawn]

that makes more sense than simply poo pooing my idea

[fickle tinsel]

nerfing alpha/buffing top end speed though i massively disagree with. i think its niche is a lumbering heavily armored tank with high alpha that can take shots at close range

[meager dawn]

750 would still be the second highest free shell type alpha in the game btw

[fickle tinsel]

you get outtraded by a type 5 at that point

[meager dawn]

type 5 can only reliably pen jag by with the prammo by hitting the engine deck and if its that close you have much more dpm anyway so theres no threat
although i will say i dont like the 800 dmg prammo that type 5 has

[fickle tinsel]

sup[erstructure of jag e100 used to be a much harder pen with gold, would basically be a gamble depending on their gun dep

they ruined the balance between cali and rammer so now everyone runs cali indirectly nerfing the jag e100

[meager dawn]

yeah that changed with the cali buff but id honestly say its not a bad thing since it actually requires skill to block shots now
they did overbuff cali though

i do still run rammer on a lot of tanks i think people overuse cali just because they dont know weakspots or positioning

i think the pen of meds and lights needs nerfing more than cali itself

shouldnt be compensating for a lack of positioning and game knowledge by just spamming prammo

[fickle tinsel]

thats a big issue i have too and i think contributes

[meager dawn]

but heavytanks need a way to counter really strong tanks that just sit behind cover and only poke to trade
eg if you cant pen e100's turret as a heavytank its really hard to counter

[fickle tinsel]

also the fact that the jagtiger has no camo whatsoever

[meager dawn]

yeah so on a lot of maps its hard to play backline as you get spotting an ofcourse dont block any damage
eg himmelsdorf and yamato harbour heavyside

[barren goblet]

Another unfun aspect of e4 is APCR. Its my least favorite way to nerf tanks together with super consumables. Instead of changing stats, giving APCR to very strong tanks like e50m, xmf66 before nerf, e4, 60tp makes them less fun to play and still be equally annoying to fight against.

[meager dawn]

yes i agree, although id say that 60tp doesnt suffer that much

[nimble zodiac]

Jag's place is a lot like E100's

E100 wins trades by having high alpha, high HP, and armor to make prammo a more favorable option for its opponent (which lets E100 trade even better)

Jag wins trades by having an even higher alpha, not as much HP, and armor that is even more incentivizing to use prammo against. Jag doesn't snipe for this reason. The armor is too useful to save for late-game which you'd get flanked in anyways.

[fickle tinsel]

I didn't realize till I looked at stats how bad the jags camo is. honestly probably needs a buff there to get shots off because it's already slow

[meager dawn]

yeah but jg doesnt have enough hp to trade as well as the e100 and since it doesnt have a turret it has a hard time poking safely

considering it weighs more than the e100 and is larger its strange that the hp difference is so different especially since they share a chassis

and yeah ik its a td but most tds are extremely light compared to heavies

[lone warren]

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[cinder shard]

Please post feedback in the related channels
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[inner talon]

[lime coral]

Where to send video of auto aim off function usability?

[terse cairn]

#📝ut3-controls-in-battles message

[fresh crane]

This is just big skill issue

[upper knot]

Give yourself the Ultra Tester role in id:customize That will open up new Reforged channels for you, including controls-in-battles.

[lime coral]

My latency is not very good to be able to use this skill. Its 120 to 150 and sometimes 400s ms

[fresh crane]

I play on 160-220 ping and it's fine

[lime coral]

On PC or tablet. Mine is tab. Could be skill issue though i have been playing for 11 years on n off

[fresh crane]

On tablet
But your skill issue is understandable because ur still getting used to it

[wicked quest]

he hasn’t questioned why one of the other sides names is literally “yourenemy”

[frosty helm]

WTH with US LT T49?! Imbalance vehicle like most of LT-s after 7 lvl, 500+ hp in a heavy tank?!

[terse beacon]

Uh What? Haha😅

T49 is not that good it has high alpha but no pen and bad accuracy

[frosty helm]

T 49 and most light tanks after him in lvl tree are imbalanced. Too much damage they can give

[terse beacon]

But they give up dpm, pen and especially in the case of t49 accuracy for this alpha. I don't think any of them are unbalanced tbh as they all have pretty obvious flaws

[frosty helm]

They shot heavy tank in most undamaging plases for 500hp while i can shot him only in 250 hp in backside... Is this normal?

[velvet panther]

Helo

[ocean cairn]

Give back 30b dpm

[fallow eagle]

I agree with this statement

[upper knot]

@wary kayak @final parcel Your battle results are posted in the wrong channel.

• If you were trying to enter the Biter contest, please make sure you grab the Ultra Tester role by following the instructions in #📖how-to-chat-here

You should grab this role anyway to see all the reforge channels

• Once you have the role, you’ll see a channel called ‘Biter-competition’ where you can post your results screen. Include your ingame name, WG ID #, and region.

[wary saddle]

Gibberish next level

i THINK Type 71 reload must be decreased down to 9s

[chilly estuary]

buff Caernarvon Defender is literraly worst version of EMIL 1951

[peak pawn]

I really think they should buff the m5yoh

[nova star]

I really think they should buff e50m

[tame wharf]

First time seeing someone complaining about T49 being op

Buff m5 Stuart

[ocean cairn]

Buff 30b
Buff jag
Buff vickers light
Buff minotauro
Buff lorraine 50t
Make lion more special (not necessarily nerf or buff, just make it different)
Nerf e50m
Nerf t100lt
Nerf sheridan
Nerf bc25t

[gentle matrix]

the usa lights are exactly balanced as much as they're annoying to fight against, there's a reason WoT PC gave them 105s

they definitely fall in line with "slot machine" RNG tanks like the 183 and KV2

[nimble anchor]

Then t9s will have a really tuff time fighting then as they go on mostly t10 battles

[ocean cairn]

Buff the Lorraine damage or accuracy, its too derpy for such low damage

[nimble anchor]

Yessir

[terse cairn]

Give Obj 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[deep frigate]

need buf !!! love this tank bit re;[ad to fling big

at least between shell shld be 6 sec. 8 t

[grizzled trench]

Bing chiling?

[turbid furnace]

all it needs is rocket lol

[twin egret]

Needs more speed/manuverability than anything tbh

At least like 48km or 50km

[ocean cairn]

If u remember that its a tier 8 med with a bigass heavy chonker turret on top u can see why its not that fast

[twin egret]

It goes 50 on PC, only weighs 15 more tons and for some reason it has a weaker engine than the Lorraine 40 t despite the engine's name hinting that it's an improved engine?

[worthy sage]

would it not be amazing if legendary camos had some sort of +10% credit efficiency or even slight XP boosts

[uneven turtle]

Sooo you wanna promote pay to progress even more?

[worthy sage]

I mean at the moment there is not much of a point of getting a legendry camoflauge apart from the looks, a small boost would not hurt at all+ you can get legendary camoflauges for free! I don't buy legendry camoflauge yet still have them on a lot of my tanks

[uneven turtle]

Literally the only reason why people would even get legendary camouflage in the first place is for the looks

Nothing less nothing more

[worthy sage]

It's not promoting pay it's just adding more value to the camoflauge

[uneven turtle]

Legendary camos are perfectly fine idk why any bonuses should be made to them

[worthy sage]

Yeah no shi you get the camo for the looks but a lil boost of creds or xp would not change anything for the worse

[uneven turtle]

You’re welcome to enrich your tanks instead

[worthy sage]

You like paying 5k gold on a camo?

[uneven turtle]

If I like the camo I don’t mind, I wouldn’t pay 5.5k for a camo I don’t like

[worthy sage]

Mate enriching tanks has nothing to do with this camoflauge topic goofy

[uneven turtle]

Mate your whole point is increasing credits earnings via gold methods. Enriching does that

[worthy sage]

My point was to have a small additional bonus to having a legendary camo you flipping rodent

[uneven turtle]

My point was that legendary camos are fine as it is, as I said, just get it for the looks. If you don’t like it as it is now, then don’t buy it?

[worthy sage]

Ain't that deep n that was just a suggestion, it would make life so much easier for new players

[uneven turtle]

pay to progress

[worthy sage]

How if you can litteraly get legendary camoflauges for free💔

[uneven turtle]

And how often is that?

Once every blue moon I suppose

[worthy sage]

Idk about you but I got like 20 free legendary camoflauges over like 2 months

[uneven turtle]

Legendary Camos shouldnt have a function that serves as a motive for the player to obtain

Moreso just based off the player’s desire to obtain said camo based off their looks

Otherwise they could always just stick to cheaper alternatives that may look better to them

I wouldn’t enjoy buying a camo I don’t like just so the tank is better off at earning credits in the long run

[worthy sage]

Aight it ain't that deep John all i was doing is giving out suggestion this shi is not game breaking and would not change much, just makes the grind easier

[uneven turtle]

It’s also super niche since not all tech tree lines have legendary camos up until their t10 successor

And not a lot of new players can effectively grind events to earn such legendary camos nor do they have the gold unless they buy it, to purchase such camos

And the grind is already significantly easier compared to past wotb

[uneven turtle]

Also never said it was game breaking, but it’s just not needed either

[lyric arch]

What stock tank in store?

[twin egret]

when will the sides of the CC 1 Mk 2 be fixed cuz it doesn't make sense for 90 milimeter sides be unpennable for 180 HE at angles at which they should be pennable

[vestal ocean]

Buff the t110e5 dpm please devvv 😭🫰

[lyric arch]

Bro thats expenxive

[terse laurel]

buff carro 45t gun pls or simply let it be as in Blitz now

[sacred holly]

No presents for test???

[cinder shard]

Rewards for participating in the test will arrive at a later date and depend on how many battles you played.

[chilly estuary]

buff Caernarvon Defender is literraly worst version of EMIL 1951
it had wierd worst arrmor and worst dpm for autoloader it has apcr prenium
i just tryin to be real even with normal speedboost consumable the tank have the worst max speed makin the speedboost useless.
give it some tungsten or more clip in load then this tank cooking

[fresh crane]

Caernarvon has far better armor

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[terse cairn]

Give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[ocean cairn]

Day 1 asking for amx 30b dpm buff

[mossy flume]

Buff Chieftain mk6

[ocean cairn]

💀

[heady dawn]

Nuh huh

[fresh crane]

Yea sure, but your not using max gun depression (which is needed for it to be decent) very often (coming from experience), so most of the time the Caernarvon has better turret armor
And even if you are using max gun depression the side of your turret is literally 45mm

You must actually think about what you are saying
If you gave the emil the same armor as the Caernarvon but everything else stayed the same the emil would be much stronger

[heady dawn]

It's a tank with 10 degrees of gun depression and a paper hull you're supposed to use it hulldown if you wanna bounce anything.

Even ignoring that they serve completely different roles. The Emil is a 'heavium' while the Caernarvon goes a whopping 30, not to mention the much better gun and smaller size. So the fact that despite all that Emil still has better armor hulldown really goes to show how lacking the Caernarvon is.

If you wanna more fair comparison you can look at the Emil 1 (Which still goes 35 and has super speed boost btw), and I don't think there's any doubt on which one has more armor.

[fresh crane]

Yap yap yap
What I said is still true

Yes, emil is a lot better
But the armor isn't one of the things

[terse cairn]

Yea bring back its old dpm. The tank was so good before the last rebalance

[ocean cairn]

Ill ask that every day until december

[barren goblet]

Assuming your armor is always angled at maximum gun depression is quite a stretch.
Caern / action x are decent tanks , Emil 1 is among most op tier 8. Not many tanks can compare to Emil 1.

[terse cairn]

Nice. I will ask to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen everyday until December

[ocean cairn]

🤝

[fickle tinsel]

you're trolling the 1951 has paper armor

[barren goblet]

After calibrated shells buff, yes. Before it could at least force other t8 heavies to use premium shells on turret. I assumed you were talking about tech tree Emil above.
Emil1951 has same issue as tiger 2, before cali buff it had around 230ish effective armor zones which just enough to be red to standard ammo.

[fickle tinsel]

I'm talking about the 1951, he sent ss of the 1951 not the emil 1

[heavy anchor]

both tanks have paper armor

[ruby hemlock]

isn't the emil 1951 just a swedish somua sm

[fickle tinsel]

1951s turret is way less troll, it's just outright paper

[heady dawn]

Yap yap yap

Caernarvon still needs a buff

• Its armor is less effective hulldown

[tender finch]

funny stuff is regular Caernarvon is better than both of it

[heady dawn]

Tru

[fresh crane]

Yes it does need a buff indeed

[terse cairn]

Day 11 of asking to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[ocean cairn]

Day 2 asking for 30b dpm buff

[terse cairn]

Give maus combat stabilization

[pure wharf]

never cook

[velvet panther]

Hello can foch 155 get buff about his pen? I mean littearly he have good pen but his ammo sucks and can't cook tanks front armour

But obj 263 lower pen but can cooke mause and other heavy tanks with front armour

[cinder shard]

Have you tried using calibrated shells or heat? 370/418 pen should really be enough for any situation

[velvet panther]

Ye but I don't using it BC of money

And what about foch 155 buff what if he had auto reloader as minotaur and he gets speed from 30 to 40?

Old 30 to new speed 40

[pure wharf]

the foch is literally the 2nd fastest tier 10 TD man i dunno what you want

[cinder shard]

Honestly, I personally see no reason to buff the tank further. It has the option to use an autoloader that can put out 1120 damage in short time, is not too slow and has some decent armor. And on top of all of that it has tungsten shells.

[cinder shard]

You really should. Not to shoot all the time, but for situations where you need it. Same with equipment, provisions and consumables. All help quiet a bit to win battles

[pure wharf]

i just want the stock gun to be actually viable instead of just kinda worse

giving it better gun handling and gun arc would be an easy fix

[ocean cairn]

Nah foch already one hair strand from bein broken

[ocean cairn]

Now we talking

[velvet panther]

And which is?

[ocean cairn]

Look at how we was when they just added the provisions and consumables, before the speed nerf

[velvet panther]

Can u show me? And I know his speed nerf but still he got troll armour

In my opinion he still needs to be buffed at least his armour BC u can't rely

[brisk ridge]

The teir 10 e100 needs a buff

[terse cairn]

Foch 155 already has pretty good armour with very good mobility with gear oil and super speed. The gun is also very good with almost 1200 clipping potential in two shots with tungsten. It has 418mm heat pen using cali which is more than enough.

[mild parrot]

Buff the KV-4, it's clearly been ignored and forgotten for a long time.

Gun dep should be 8 degrees.
And the turret cheeks should be buffed.
dpm slightly increased (it has low end 122mm dpm on 105? like really?)

this would make it tolerable to grind at least

[undone cargo]

kv5 needs armor buff

[velvet panther]

He ain't fast

[ocean cairn]

Day 3 asking for 30b dpm buff

[terse cairn]

Day 12 of asking to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[cinder shard]

If you really want tanks to be buffed it would be beneficial if you'd provide reasoning why a certain tank should be improved.
The most important thing is basically what a tank feels like when you play it.
For example "tank A feels like it is too slow for what it is / tank B seems to miss a lot of shots on the move and takes very long to aim"
That makes it easier to collect feedback across all platforms

[uneven turtle]

Remove SSB from 62A and give it better gun handling and 3.2k dpm without rammer

It’s mobile enough to not need SSB, but gun handling just feels off from its prime, and the dpm is much too low comparing to other mts

The gun depression nerf from 7 to 6 to make it less flexible already felt justified for how well it performed back then, but the dpm and gun handling nerf was a tad bit over kill, heck I don’t mind if they reduced alpha back down to 310 if it meant a shorter reload for overall better dpm

Although this would then kinda make it the better 140 again😶

give 140 the 7 gun dep angle hehehehaw

Tho I will say that 62a is extremely well balanced to the point it’s a jack of all trades but master of none

[pine bluff]

NC 70 rebalance...
If youre force to play agressive in the front line, you should definitely have more armor in the on the underside from forward.
This is penetrebale by T9 very easily and there are not much maps where you can just hide in the front line.

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[cursive minnow]

Buff rating team

[mild parrot]

2k hp on a t8 heavy tank that goes 20-30km/h
with 2100 dpm.

It’s a meat shield, not a armoured wall. It bounces a lot already cause it’s troll as crap.

[slow moth]

Can anyone help me to change my email becase i already tryed and it didint work

[solid crescent]

The FV215b183 has become completely bad. It takes days to calibrate it and get it ready to fire, and I've died a thousand times. I keep wondering if the developers are developing or getting involved.

[twin egret]

The Skoda t 27 needs a higher top speed because it feels so capped at 50km. You can definitely feel it can go faster with how fast it accelerates

[ionic kraken]

Tier 5 tech trees need a rebalance... The tanks straight up suck and are easy pickings for tier 6s, that can kill them in 1-4 shots for the most part, while being better in every way

[balmy veldt]

Buff ur brain

[fickle tinsel]

you have a skill issue bro

[sharp sky]

Guys, in infected front, there are some tanks are undead and some tanks are survivalist. It would be great if they increase the hit point or the health of undead tanks, so they can survive more from survivalist tank's shot and it will be easy for them to ram

[fickle tinsel]

infected side already wins basically every time

[twin egret]

what

[idle edge]

Why do so many ppl want a foch buff

[vital cipher]

I'm sorry, but how long do you intend to let these tanks remain incomplete? Beside just sitting in the garage gathering dust and cobwebs, it can't even compete with many research line vehicles. I'd love to play these tanks at their full potential, so please add options to unlock parts for them. Whether it's random missions or researching parts that might be more expensive than the research line, as long as it's as player-friendly as possible, that's all that matters. And no real money required, I believe the game has too many avenues for profit.

[velvet cypress]

The 183 needs the old 1300 hesh alpha and 1625 maximum dmg

[pine bluff]

NC 70 is really bad tank. You have to be very close and if you dont play against 40% WR ppl its penetradable by T9 very easily. Im quite a lot disapointed

[mental python]

It's a skill issue your clearly playing it wrong it's a very competitive brawl tank

[pine bluff]

😅 Can be, but aperently if you see every single battle almost 0 reflected damage and almost all penetrated shells into your tank, I dont think its my skill issue.
I can clearly see, that everyone (in after battle statistics) who has more than 50% WR penetrate u very easily. and there are not much playstyles to play, because you have to be on less than 50M. But I understand your point.
As I said Its very good tank against not good players, but very weak against avarage ones.

[knotty aspen]

Yeah no chance of a no money discussion for those extra parts. To get em you must buy em probably with real money or gold

[terse cairn]

Day 13 of asking to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[ocean cairn]

day 3 asking for 30b dpm buff

[mental python]

What needs buffed on 30b ?

[terse cairn]

Its old dpm

[mental python]

It has decent alpha tho it's a better leopard I think

[terse cairn]

Not at all

The only thing it has is the gun depression and probably a slightly more trollish armour

[mental python]

Yeah so why does it need buffed 😂 it's one of my fav meds

[terse cairn]

The rest of the stats are almost flat worse

[mental python]

Do any of you play any other world of tanks besides blitz ? If wargaming change all equipment and commander skills in reforge the tanks will be perfect

It will get dpm with commander I think wargaming need to stop doing updates for blitz and focus on reforge to save time and speed up it'd release

[fickle tinsel]

no not even close

the 30b is one of the worst meds while the leopard is one of the best. the dpm difference is massive and nerfing it absolutely killed the 30b

also commanders already got cancelled

[mental python]

Leopard has zero amour that's why it's gun and dpm are better if you gave the 30b more dpm it would be to op

[fickle tinsel]

the amx is only lightly armored. the sides are he able and it has a massive cupola. and its dpm is so bad now there's absolutely no reason to play it over alternatives

[mental python]

I play it all the time it's a good tank it's on par with stb

[terse cairn]

Leo has better accuracy, way better dpm, more alpha, more mobility, more concealment with adaptive concealment. The gun depression is the only thing 30b has

[fickle tinsel]

Your subjective opinion doesn't mean more than stats and the common consensus

[mental python]

Amx vs a leopard come on 😑 the leopard will always have better stats

[fickle tinsel]

because it's the better tank

[terse cairn]

Then why were you telling that 30b is a better leo

[mental python]

Ofc Leo is better on paper it has nothing going for it apart from the gun

1 vs 1 me il use 30b I bet I win each time

[ocean cairn]

dpm

[terse cairn]

Just bring back the old 30b dpm. It was just fine

[fickle tinsel]

"nothing going for it" buddy it has the mobility and camo to use the gun

[ocean cairn]

put the old dpm back, it didnt need a dpm nerf, it wasnt broken, now its one of the lowest dpm meds

[fickle tinsel]

1v1 is basically announcing you know nothing about the game

[mental python]

I have 145k games in the PHNX clan

[fickle tinsel]

and you still think 1v1 is an accurate way to determine which tank is 'better' 😭

[terse cairn]

Both tanks are like support tanks that need a team

[terse beacon]

I mean stb isn't that strong atm ever since it was nerfed haha

[mental python]

I think you lot are playing 30b wrong if you think it's a bad tank seriously

[fickle tinsel]

no it's just not that great as it's completely outperformed by many other tanks now

[terse beacon]

It's not a bad tank but you're calling it better than leopard which is uh an interesting one 😅

[mental python]

Stb still very good

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[mental python]

It's not better I'm saying it is better in a lot more scenarios than a leopard

[ocean cairn]

it still a good tank but it didnt need the dpm nerf it got, befora was one of the best t10 meds now its just meh

[mental python]

What's your stats in game ? DDM and SPRINT

[terse beacon]

But you literally just called it a better Leo a few minutes ago... regardless 30b is only better than Leo at one thing which is ridgelining

[fickle tinsel]

https://www.blitzstars.com/player/com/IronBehemoth

[fickle tinsel]

now post yours

[ocean cairn]

we want 30b old dpm back

[fickle tinsel]

where are your stats?

ran off when asked to post his stats back why am i not surprised

[ocean cairn]

meh

[terse cairn]

He left the server

[prime falcon]

The new tank is pretty good

[fickle tinsel]

😭 😭 😭

[cursive minnow]

😭 ✌️

[upper knot]

@scarlet yarrow Wargaming staff are interested in your reaction to Infected Front but the first place they will look for it is in #infected-front. Please post your reactions there.

[scarlet yarrow]

ok

[waxen geode]

What are your opinion of the tier 7 TD Chi-To SPG? It's my time to grind another Tier 7 TD.

[obtuse rover]

murat +100hp and sandbag, gun 2.2 intraclip

I think murat could use more hp (its big) and a quicker intraclip

[lilac crest]

Should ST-l got Traverse buff and Hp buff? It's very slow and compare to German heavy like Vk45.02B that tank traverse faster than this even using engine booster ST-l still slow and for HP...the old 2332 HP is suitable for it right now IS-8 was currently tougher than ST-l

[ivory vault]

How can i get the biter tank ?

[signal dagger]

There is a free event that will start around the 20th, you will need to win games to get tokens to complete the event.

[ivory vault]

I just saw someone playing biter with average account so i thought it was out already

[signal dagger]

Some players got it early because of giveaways from wargaming

[ivory vault]

ok thanks

[uneven pike]

Murat need better terrain res, maybe 400 alpha, it def does not need more HP

[velvet panther]

In my opinion 60tp needs to change ammo bar instead of ammo piersing composition rigid

It need to have normal ammo piercing

[cursive minnow]

Have you tried getting better instead

[terse cairn]

Day 14 of asking to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[solid crescent]

was the best in terms of damage with over 3000 dmg and they had up to 1500

[cursive minnow]

Gotta do more

[solid crescent]

More was not possible. Then he was dead.

[cursive minnow]

😭 ✌️ they do count you’re bad buddy

[solid crescent]

Don't tell me. 2 shots at the BC and no rebound or hit. Nothing.

[cursive minnow]

Got to aim that

[primal yacht]

✅ arnicisek82. was muted.

[nova star]

R

[velvet panther]

Someone buff 60tp pen

[fickle tinsel]

absolutely not

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[terse cairn]

Day 15 of asking to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[obtuse rover]

make the bc 100mm gun the same as d old 105mm

[velvet panther]

And why not?

[scarlet karma]

anyone think the 152mm BL-10 having less gold pen than the 122mm M62-C2 is weird?

reference: 152mm BL-10 is on ISU, M62-C2 + variants are on SU-101, IS-4, and ST-1

[wary saddle]

Buff e3 traverse frfr

[terse cairn]

It has 265 apcr which sucks but it has 360 heat ( with cali) which is enough penetration

[velvet panther]

How Gona heat helps with heavy tanks?

[wary saddle]

☠️

[fickle tinsel]

because it's already extremely strong

[terse cairn]

Wdym? I am not talking about heat energy. I am talking about High explosive Anti tank shells

[lyric arch]

Bro

How IM unlock is 7 with out gold

[velvet panther]

So every time I play I should use anti shell not normal and always pay money ?

Now I understand why every my friend told me choose e100 then 60 tp

[ember idol]

You should use prammo depending on the circumstances, you're not going to fire it all the time and at everything anyway

[velvet panther]

This is free ammo btw whent it shouldnt have armor in down and neck where tank rotate

But from very far it doesn't have armor down

[terse cairn]

Its because of APCR

Apcr has less normalisation than AP, that's why AP is better for penetrating angled armour than APCR

[terse cairn]

Its not that much. Just 20k credits for that.

[lilac crest]

IS-4 GUN IS SPECIAL EDITION OF M62 T2 the old version of blitz is the IS-8 ST-l And IS-4 was using the same gun but I can't remember which patch they change

[velvet panther]

Well I'm saying AP should have than apcr

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[scarlet karma]

WG cloned the sprite and code of the M62 T2 of the IS-4 and renamed it so they can balance the IS-4 independently of the ST-1

[vestal ocean]

Dev may u consider increase the dpm buff for the vk 72.01k

[fickle tinsel]

Devs need to learn that if a tank is statistically strong but nobody is complaining about it perhaps it shouldn't be nerfed into the ground

[ivory quiver]

I hope they nuke the E6

[jaunty ridge]

nerf e6, buff e50m

[wary saddle]

Buff E3

[gusty urchin]

Buff e4

125B needs more armor or more alpha😉

[main horizon]

Tanks to buff:
1)cs63
2)wz113
3)wz121
4)maus
5)vk72
6)62a
7)140
8)Vickers light
9)fv4202
10)Murat
11)e3
12)E5
13)jagroo
14)wz111 5a
15)amx 30b
16)xm66f
17)121b
18)mle 54(gun handling)
19) nc70 (gun handling)
20)Mino
Tanks to nerf:
1)f3
2)e50m
3)e6

[gusty urchin]

Vk72 needs buff indeed

[terse cairn]

260 needs buff too

[analog basin]

All tier 8 medium need penatration buff for regular ammo.

[analog basin]

You could just list tanks that need nerf may it way shorter to read then

[outer slate]

what is jagroo🤯

Jagdpanzer E100?

[terse cairn]

Yes

[outer slate]

lt432's apcr has only 175 pene😂

while T34 have 297pene

tier 8 lt/mt have too low dpm to against ht

[main horizon]

Ngl you are correct.
I am just too dumb lmao.
Nerf list is short 🗿

[main horizon]

One of few tank where standard pen is more reliable than premium 💔

[outer slate]

someone is but also many others arent

[vapid island]

buff murat

[ocean cairn]

Day 5 asking for 30b dpm buff

[terse cairn]

Day 16 of asking to give 260 wot pc armour and more heat pen

[prisma jetty]

Uhhhh no, LT-432’s premium is way better than its standard lol

[fickle tinsel]

<@&481447501690568709>

[ruby hemlock]

Where Somua SM (abysmal clip reload time)

[velvet panther]

Can we add t100 lt ?

[glad flower]

Thank god you arent part of the balancing team

[high vine]

XD

impactful statement

[gusty urchin]

🤣🤣🤣what's wrong with what I said

[vague fiber]

what are you thinking, buffing the nc70

[primal yacht]

✅ arnicisek82. has been warned.

[nimble anchor]

Except p44 panthera

[analog basin]

Who care about techtree tank bruh

[honest drift]

me

[unique scaffold]

me

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[waxen geode]

Is the Chinese T-34-1 a bad tank? I have to grind it.

[scarlet yarrow]

its official WG hates their players

[velvet panther]

T100 Lt need buffabout gun tureent limit

Instead of: up15 and down 5 make him up 18 and down 8

[terse cairn]

Absolutely not. Due to its low profile it doesn't need so much gun depression

T100 LT is such a rat tank with good dpm

[wary saddle]

This guy is cooking with no utensils bro😭 😭

Wdym buff gun dep

[analog basin]

Is it tier 8 ? If it tier 8 then it s bad. It s a curse to be born as tier 8 med

[uneven pike]

It is T7 bro 🥀

[analog basin]

Yeah go ahead. Tier 7 and tier 9 med are OP, just pretend like there are no tier 8 med in blitz

[velvet panther]

It needs gun depression

[wary saddle]

it does NOT need more gun dep

[terse cairn]

It doesn't need

[desert relic]

How can you know?

[glad flower]

I know

[uneven turtle]

Day 1 of asking Fv215B to be changed(or buffed I guess)

Remove SSB from Fv215B, Improve Terrain resis across all terrain types by a substantial amount to partially compensate,

My reason, I rather my 215B have a more consistent mobility performance than the occasional bursts of speed and agility, of course the terrain resis buff won’t be as good as compared to when the SSB is active. Anyways it’s also because I wanna free up a consumable slot for a repair kit

[terse cairn]

Day 17 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[velvet panther]

It doesn't need

[waxen geode]

Thanks for the warning. I'll keep that in mind when it's my turn to start grinding tier 8 tanks. But nope, the one I mentioned is tier 7 and I love it. Great little medium.

[desert relic]

Chimera:
Progetto 46:
Bourrasque:
Defender Mk.1:
But if you specifically meant tech trees, I can kind of agree even the best ones are quite underwhelming

[fickle tinsel]

you're geeked

[barren goblet]

tier 6-9 tech tree meds and lights are majority bad tanks with few strengths and their server win rate being deep in 40s just proves it. And no, there is no amount of skill that can compensate influence equally skilled player has in tier 8 tech tree med compared to t8 heavy ( some premium t8s are OP, not debating that)

[fickle tinsel]

half this server lacks the reasoning to understand that saying "just play better" doesn't make sense against a set standard

I don't speak noodle

[primal yacht]

✅ ib3ria2009 was muted.

[terse cairn]

Bro had been asking for buffs on tanks which are very strong and doesn't really need them but is opposing for the tank which is very mid and actually need some buffs

[scenic hazel]

💀

[wide pagoda]

I feel like the LT-432 needs a buff

[ruby hemlock]

erac 105:

[desert relic]

It kind of does for some tanks. By the principle of skill floors, some tanks can be absurdly bad performing when played by an average player but become top choice for the best and the pros, so the tank is good... as long as you "play better"

Of course, these cases aren't exactly common. A lot of tanks are simply very weak.

[fickle tinsel]

the context of these conversations have been low skill ceiling tanks

[desert relic]

Was it? All I've seen are discussions about "bad tanks"

[fickle tinsel]

These discussions I'm referring to have been higher skilled players calling a tank bad looking at it from a perspective of both skill ceiling and floor and the lower level player saying it's a skill issue.

For example i argued with a dude who claimed an eagle 7 being worse than the defender mk1 is skill issue, like no, both skill floor and ceiling of the mk1 are higher. same deal w a lot of the tech trees the dude above was talking about, mid tier tech trees like the t44 are just bad, skill ceiling and floor. it's been a gripe where players ignore the statistics behind and naunce of the different situations you mentioned when arguing it's "skill issue" and say fallaciously that because one tank is high skill ceiling every tank must be to the same extent with better play

Also had to refresh myself on my original message but am also agreeing to that sentiment he expressed because of a conversation i had recently about maps where players have been arguing spawn doesn't matter and it's skill issue if you do worse on one side.. but it's a black and white issue. for both good and bad players one side is better

[ruby hemlock]

are the french quad track mediums decent

[desert relic]

The tier 7 is amazing, the tier 8 and 9 have a lot of potential to perform good but are tricky to play and the tier X is in my opinion just very underwhelming. It is sluggish, very large and the firepower which is the entire point of the gun isn't even that powerful

[vernal geode]

Is it just me or has it occurred to me that tier V and VI have this huge hitpoint difference

[pale cedar]

The game is well balanced, medium or light tanks are simply not for everyone.

[ruby hemlock]

"well balanced"
ke-ni otsu:

[fickle tinsel]

<@&481447501690568709>

[brisk ridge]

Jg pz e100 needs a buff

[pliant charm]

<@&481447501690568709>

[quick lichen]

This is a very good point honestly

[uneven turtle]

Day 2 of asking Fv215B to be changed(or buffed I guess)

Remove SSB from Fv215B, Improve Terrain resis across all terrain types by a substantial amount to partially compensate,

My reason, I rather my 215B have a more consistent mobility performance than the occasional bursts of speed and agility, of course the terrain resis buff won’t be as good as compared to when the SSB is active. Anyways it’s also because I wanna free up a consumable slot for a repair kit

[unique scaffold]

what about the balance issue with tier 8 mediums that I keep hearing about? seems the classes might be balanced in general, but not on every tier

specifically that they are underpowered

[scarlet yarrow]

NOOB MM IS BULLCRAP AND IT DOESNT EXIST, IF YOU THINK IT DOES JUST BECAUSE WG SAID IT DOES YOU'RE DUMB, cause unless void players, Origin players and JKR players are actually trash at the game, then then noob MM LITERALLY DOES NOT EXIST, cause my account which only has 3k total games on it is getting with players that have over 100k battles, and 50-70% win rate EVERY SINGLE GAME, so dont sit on your computer and tell me WG's lies over and over again, cause i KNOW that it's not true, and NEVER will be

[unkempt quest]

Newbie matchmaking is literally a thing. It's common knowledge

[analog basin]

Why griller 15 has lower camo than big big type 5 heavy

[queen geyser]

It dosnt

[desert relic]

I've heard NA has so few players newbie MM can't keep up the demands.
Even in EU, if there are not enough players above tier 8 like at 1am, every player gets put together

[unique scaffold]

from what I can tell, there seems to be more noob mm at lower tiers? if you feel like you are getting matched against people that are too skilled, just go down to a lower tier imo?

[queen geyser]

The matchmaker usually needs to handle what the player give it to them and the highest goal is still to match as fast as possible

"Expierenced players" usually play tier 7 and above, tier 10 especially

Newer players play lower tiers more often since they often need to grind

so your chance of meeting new players are much higher when playing low tiers

[ionic kraken]

Buff Type 5 pen : )

[turbid stag]

Can you buff the vk 28.01 derp gun. Want some derp fun besides kv2 and t49

[devout trail]

So just me have problems with connecting gara or everyone like that background the walking death can’t see in my gara now

[unique scaffold]

pz 2 needs a buff, its gun is so useless compared to the other tier 1s, it feels like it does no damage. give the top and stock gun an extra shell each for the autoloader clip

or maybe a slight damage increase

[nimble zodiac]

Tier I is already solved:
Play Cruiser and you win
WG probably won’t do much about it

[unique scaffold]

oh, interesting. I had no trouble winning with the other tier 1s, maybe because I'm still in noob mm, but I couldn't carry with the pz2 because its gun was too anemic

[terse cairn]

Day 18 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[proven pine]

What I have to choose between super conqueror or object 268/4??

[jaunty ridge]

sconq

[fickle tinsel]

super conq by a mile

one of the best t10s

[latent merlin]

What send this rewads for clacis words??

Does anyone know please when the rewards will be sent to Word Blitz?

[upper knot]

The last info I saw from WG was this: #📢test-newsfeed message.

Although WG originally said that the rewards would be given after the test ends, now it looks like the quest will end before the test does. We'll have to wait and see if there will be an earlier reward date.

[latent merlin]

@upper knot oke thx man

[ionic egret]

it kinda doesn't apply to NA as good as to eu or even APAC because na has the lowest player count so you pretty much are forced to meet good players even if you shouldn't

[ivory quiver]

Bro probably got farmed by ppl 😭

[fickle tinsel]

ur acc coping over being bad even in noob mm

[vague fiber]

give vk72 640 alpha back

[uneven turtle]

Day 3 of asking Fv215B to be changed(or buffed I guess)

Remove SSB from Fv215B, Improve Terrain resis across all terrain types by a substantial amount to partially compensate,

My reason, I rather my 215B have a more consistent mobility performance than the occasional bursts of speed and agility, of course the terrain resis buff won’t be as good as compared to when the SSB is active. Anyways it’s also because I wanna free up a consumable slot for a repair kit

[terse cairn]

Day 19 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[dusk willow]

260 really does need some love. the t95e6 just beats it across every category

bz-75 line needs its booster rockets and the bz75 in particular needs its actual 152mm from PC. Lesta server did it, why cant the rest of blitz? its mainly because the bz75 doesnt stand out as a vehicle to play. the is4 has a better gun and armor while an e100 has a better high caliber gun and better armor. boosters would give this line its own unique playstyle in the game and of course giving the bz75 its 152mm from PC would be very good too. the 130mm feels underwhelming and almost out of place, while the derp gun is... just a fun gun, not necessarily good

[scarlet yarrow]

please remove base cap until the end of the battle in regular mode

[prisma jetty]

Cap is a way to force action, if you lose to cap that’s absolutely on you

[unique scaffold]

yeah, imagine all the camping people would do if caps didnt exist. caps motivate people not to camp, and punish people who do camp

[terse cairn]

Yea. It should have its wot pc playstyle. It should be like a more armoured E6 with slightly less p/w ratio, a bit less dpm and less gun depression.

[outer slate]

you would better clear 215B or 121B🤫

[floral terrace]

Please give my Rhm. Pz better pen. And give him ap standard. And increase its dpm.and Also increase its on move dispersion. It's bad then Leo

[dusk willow]

Thats typically how it goes. Mediums are the DPM while lights are the view range. Besides it’s not like the Rhm can’t perform well. The meta isn’t so forgiving to it like it is to the batchat and t100

[floral terrace]

Well Leo has more accurate gun then Rhm

[dusk willow]

The Leo 1 has always had one of the most accurate guns in the game. That’s been an unchanging fact since the early days of Blitz

The Rhm may be a little clunky to play right now, but it’s still an alright light tank.

[terse cairn]

Just buff its accuracy and give it AP standard. Dpm is fine I guess. While remove its reactive armour and sandbags

[floral terrace]

What about pen values?

[terse cairn]

Give AP standard

[floral terrace]

245?

[terse cairn]

Yea probably. Around 260 ap with cali

[floral terrace]

That's what I'm talking about it has 242 pen with Cali rn. And it needs pen buff

[terse cairn]

Ap will give it more normalisation and also more increase in penetration with cali. It should have like 235 base AP like t100Lt

[terse beacon]

Rhm does not need any buffs imo although I think wg will buff it regardless haha... The tank is a light and does the job it's supposed to very well, having both mechanics is a major asset that makes up for a lot of the tanks other flaws

[tranquil slate]

Anyone following the animated comics of WOT on U-Tube - check specially 'How to Destroy a MAUS'- still laughing

[ionic kraken]

Type 5 Heavy needs to be buffed. It's purely designed against idiots, but anyone who has even half a functioning braincell, can easily take it out. The hull needs to be over 300mm, just like the turret, of which the sides should definitely NOT be 80mm thick. It's slow in every sense, it NEEDS to be frontally unbreakable. Tier 9s are NOT SUPPOSED BE ABLE TO FRONTALLY PEN IT ANYWHERE.
Or if not armor, it needs to have a dpm buff. It's gun doesn't deal so much damage compared to how slow it's loads, aims and how often it MISSES or FAILS TO PEN.

Same applies to most if not, all superheavies, only one that's worth even half a damn is the E-100, all the others lack a piece here and there. So it's either buff the tanks, or nerf, actually, outright remove calibrated shells to make armor relevant (cuz PC WoT does NOT have anything that increases penetration outright) and replace it with something else that doesn't make heavies without angled/sloped armor a complete joke and free farm.

[fickle tinsel]

<@&481447501690568709>

[dusk willow]

agreed. The Wotb_Play guy basically wants to make a superior leopard 1 out of the rhm while keeping the benefits of a light tank. as for the pen buff, you go over 60 km/h... use it lmao

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[uneven turtle]

Day 4 of asking Fv215B to be changed(or buffed I guess)

Remove SSB from Fv215B, Improve Terrain resis across all terrain types by a substantial amount to partially compensate,

My reason, I rather my 215B have a more consistent mobility performance than the occasional bursts of speed and agility, of course the terrain resis buff won’t be as good as compared to when the SSB is active. Anyways it’s also because I wanna free up a consumable slot for a repair kit

[waxen geode]

Is the VZ 44-1 a good tank? I just started using it. No upgrades yet. It reminds me of the Tiger 1 P of how slow it moves.

[terse cairn]

Day 20 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[manic flint]

give it more shell velocity

[uneven pike]

Nah, we don't need better IS-7, just buff alpha to 420/360/550 is good enough, better yet also remove stab ability and buff engine power

[terse cairn]

It will still be a worse E6. It needs its wot pc playstyle. The hull will be still weaker than IS 7. The only major difference will be the turret armour

[uneven pike]

I take worse E6, because right now E6 is stupid, in fact E6 shouldnt have been buff that much

[terse cairn]

That's why it should be like a more armoured version of E6 with a bit less mobility in terms of p/w ratio , less gun depression. They can nerf the dpm to like 2700 with cali and 420 alpha ( which it used to have before 10.3).

[heavy hill]

Can anybody help me with this?

[lavish willow]

I keep forgetting the premium time gives camo you can use for free. It should auto install the camo for any missing camo and an option in the settings not to do that but turned on by default.

[brave dragon]

Follow the steps to link or not link your accounts.
I suggest keeping them separate with different emails.

If you need help, contact player support.

[primal yacht]

@heavy hill, you can reach out to the support using the following link: https://wargaming.net/support/en/products/wotb/help/

[heavy hill]

It already worked, thank you so much guys.

[floral terrace]

Please buff my maus armour

[idle fern]

Bring back the old cheiftain gun

Or made it so you can choose between gun

[terse cairn]

Yea give 2 gun options just like fv4202

[idle fern]

👌

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[outer slate]

what？

FV4005's gun will be 150mm?

[primal yacht]

✅ benjamin_benn was banned.

[regal iris]

Y

[faint sandal]

Buff fv215b 183 fr too weak

[terse cairn]

Day 21 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[cinder shard]

Would appreciate if you'd post that in #screenshots or the off-topic discussion, this channel is mainly for tank balance >_<

[sharp sky]

Okay

[uneven turtle]

Day 5 of asking Fv215B to be changed(or buffed I guess)

Remove SSB from Fv215B, Improve Terrain resis across all terrain types by a substantial amount to partially compensate,

My reason, I rather my 215B have a more consistent mobility performance than the occasional bursts of speed and agility, of course the terrain resis buff won’t be as good as compared to when the SSB is active. Anyways it’s also because I wanna free up a consumable slot for a repair kit

[wary saddle]

According to JJC 215b is getting buffed

Not specified

[clear shuttle]

😨

[terse cairn]

What other tanks did he mention?

[wary saddle]

Rhm and Vickers Getting buffed

116 reactive removal Rino getting nerf

[clear shuttle]

they should give the 113 back its 420 alpha

[wary saddle]

Wow its pigrock

[dusk willow]

Poor vickers got nerf hammered 3-4 patches in a row

Still waiting for the day our bz75 becomes like the PC one

[uneven turtle]

oooo I’m interested to see whether it’s true, and if it is what changes it’ll be getting

[lavish willow]

The Chi-To SPG with its first gun can't tell at all(no highlight at all) if the square thing in front of the Tiger I can be penned or not.

[lavish willow]

Either my luck is bad or the gun lied to me that it can pen AT 7's cupola

[clear shuttle]

no im psych_plasma from r1s3

[wary saddle]

😭 i swear this man is always absent minded at all times i can't even play proper scrim with him

[hushed tree]

I heard that the 4005 barrel is going to be changed to 150mm, is that true?

[steady birch]

The M26 Pershing needs to be buffed, heavily

[faint sandal]

Super conq should get pen buff

[terse cairn]

Day 22 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[fickle tinsel]

no

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[faint sandal]

why not

[unique scaffold]

Buff bt-7 art.

[floral terrace]

Buff my maus

[wary saddle]

It's already strong atm, it doesn't need any buffs

[manic flint]

i remember that troll turret of super conq bruh it bounces everything even if i aim right at top of hatch ring

[wary saddle]

Use Heat

[manic flint]

i was using hori bruh

[wary saddle]

Are you using cali or not

[manic flint]

yeah

[wary saddle]

Then load prammo and go hit its turret cheeks, it will go through that

[manic flint]

he was angled in like 5 degrees that why i think , yes i did hit his turret cheeks and it went through it

[uneven turtle]

Day 6 of asking Fv215B to be changed(or buffed I guess)

Remove SSB from Fv215B, Improve Terrain resis across all terrain types by a substantial amount to partially compensate,

My reason, I rather my 215B have a more consistent mobility performance than the occasional bursts of speed and agility, of course the terrain resis buff won’t be as good as compared to when the SSB is active. Anyways it’s also because I wanna free up a consumable slot for a repair kit

[manic flint]

make fv215b collector

or atleast 183

[terse cairn]

Remove its reactive or nerf its dpm

[brazen creek]

there's any chance to give -7º depression to the Leopard PTA in next patch with PBR?

[foggy lion]

you are such an intelligent vehicle

[uneven turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-cat-huh-confused-meme-gif-3282660700962977407

[foggy lion]

who told you such information

[uneven turtle]

It’s not official, it’s just a suggestion by me

[brazen creek]

I've never understand why WG nerf so bad the Strv K

[barren goblet]

It was dominating tournament lineups. Same as 113gft, same as 116f3 now. Make your guess which tank is getting nuked soon 🙂 (barely anyone has f3 so it wont matter much)

[velvet cypress]

PLEASE bring back old 183 alpha

[scenic hazel]

And then buffed e6 like crazy

[fickle tinsel]

it's top 3 t10 heavies, a top 3 heavy should never get further buffs. if anything it's probably getting nerfed instead

[terse cairn]

Ngl I really want E6 to be nuked. If it happens tanks like 260, strv k will get some love

[nimble anchor]

Plz buff Pershing
It's got almost no armor in t8
Less mobility than the average med at t8
Very low pen
Kinda mid alpha
The gun handling is the good thing
Plz this tanks really needs either a dpm buff or an armor and speed buff

Strv k needs some love too
It has the best dpm but lackes in speed and armor and some gun handling
Plz give around 30-40mm more armor on turret and the hull

[uneven turtle]

Lowk just revert the hatch buff and see how many people start to complain about the e6 cus they got too complacent

[crimson palm]

where to speak to devs about game modes?

[cinder shard]

Could you please move that to #news-discussion ?
This channel is tank balance only =)

[crimson palm]

see I was looking for a channel, thanks

[cinder shard]

I'll leave it here for a minute so you can copy it, but after that I'd kindly ask you to delete it in this channel

[crimson palm]

thanks

[crimson palm]

delete if you want

[barren goblet]

Pershing and pantera are 2 good tier 8 tech tree meds. Imagine how others are lol

[fickle tinsel]

nah e6 is less toxic than others options

better the e6 which at least takes a semblance of skill and has obvious weaknesses like the fat cupola than previous S tier cancers like the reactive armor wz113g, peak yolo tvp, or any of the other genuinely obnoxious metas

[quartz echo]

Tbh I think Kpz 70 calvary should be a tier 10 for it's massive damage and armor, and it's history with the game, and Caliban looks like Sheridan missle why shouldn't it get a missle same with just normal Sheridan but I am more into Kpz 70 calvary becoming tier 10

Also improve Caliban Aiming speed, it's absolutely Bad cause it takes so long to Aim it does dmg but cannot aim like you gotta be like 20 ft even that?

Oh could we also improve Panther Two acceleration by 5% or at least 10% It could be a great improvement for the Tank and the gaming Community and YouTubers Ex:Anggael to play it more and spread it around the gaming community of players

@delicate folio Ty:D for your time:D

[prisma jetty]

Caliban doesn't get a missile because its gun could never fire a missile

[wheat quest]

They already decided to make it a T10

[nimble anchor]

I get the panthera
I've grinned the prog line
The pershing cannot even compare to t9
I was fully huldown fighting a char futur and he didn't even have to aim
It has somewhat good dpm but not crazy or anything
It has nothing going for it
It's all mid except for the mobility that's bad

[tawdry spruce]

How can I turn on the bullet hole when I shot the tank? Is it in the setting?

[dusk willow]

well tier 9s should be stronger than tier 8s. i know its a tech tree vs a premium but not everything has to be an object 752 where it can compete or surpass its higher tier opponents

personally i want to see the bz-75 line get their rocket boosters and the bz75 getting its actual 152mm from PC, not this derp gun.

[ember idol]

Well tbf the Pershing does fall behind other Western design in the tier, just to get superb APCR pen and a huge mantlet

A slight AP pen or mobility buff would suffice

[uneven turtle]

The fat cupola that became resistant to most standard shells

E6 has 7.8 sec reload with calibrated

Has 50km top speed and no issues reaching that speed too

Has 10 degrees of gun depression making it easy to use on any map type

Has really good penetration values to begin with, especially heat, making its so that you won’t have issues against enemy armor

Has an extremely precise gun, lest you are moving

And it’s a heavy so even tho its armor is generally weak around the hull, you have that minimum 2.3k heavy tank hit points

[terse cairn]

Day 23 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[scenic pier]

WG be like " best we can do is reticle calibration"

[terse cairn]

In the last rebalance, WG: the best we could do is buff reload by 0.2 sec and add combat stabilization which is useless in a tank like this.

[scenic pier]

They wake up in the morning with random ideas and that's it 😂

[primal yacht]

✅ leathercop237 was banned.

[scenic pelican]

Can wg bring back 9.1 tvp pls 🥺

[lavish willow]

Plz make premium time automatically install Undeniable Advantage in any tank that is selected and in any camo they lack.

[terse beacon]

I can't say what I want to say to you... so I'll have to settle for a no thanks

[lavish willow]

Wot Blitz Regular should match players by first matching the lowest winrate players in queue of applicable tank tiers. Here how it would work. Lowest winrate player goes to team A, then the next lowest winrate player goes to team B, then the next lowest winrate player goes to team A, and so forth until both teams are full and then their match is started immediately before rating goes work on the next batch of players. If the match making system detects a new player in queue that is lower winrate than any of the players it assigned so far, it will squeeze them below the closest player above their winrate and move the highest rated player in their team to the other team or remove from the assigned match if the other team is full. If the 2nd lowest winrate player is 1 tank tier above or below the lowest rated player, then the match making system will only focus on players that are between their two tiers. Tank types are ignored. If the number of tank tiers aren't exactly the same by the time both assigned teams are full then the highest winrate excess same tier players are replaced with the next lowest rated players of the needed tier. All of this should minimize waiting time and skill gap. For platoons, the lowest winrates players are assigned first. If the higher winrate player in a platoon can't fit in the same team as their lower winrate platoon partner, then both players of the same platoon are discounted and will be attempted to be assigned for the next matchmaking and so forth if it continues.

[terse beacon]

Skill based mm is and always has been a terrible idea so how about no

[lavish willow]

skill issue

[terse beacon]

Haha, Imo the skill issue is asking for skill based mm in the first place, why do you want other people to carry You? Random mm is the fairest way to go about it

[lavish willow]

You're wrong, I want people to pick up the slack where you're less likely to encounter people that purposely afk. If you're fine with random mm, then any mm wouldn't make a difference with you but since apparently you're not fine by the kind of mm I'm suggesting, I can only conclude you have skill issue.

[terse beacon]

Afk players will always be a thing regardless of mm, and all things like this do is screw over the top players with both queue time and gameplay, if you are looking for coherent team play then that is why tournaments exist. Random battles are random for a reason, and if you are skilled enough you will have a high enough impact to win 70%+ of your games even without a platoon, completely reworking the mm is not necessary, they already tried to do that once and it was a disaster

[lavish willow]

I said less likely to encounter people that purposely afk. I didn't deny there won't be any player that won't purposely afk. As for queue time and gameplay, if you read what I typed, it's designed to match players asap rather than wait and look for the "perfect" player. Random battles aren't even inherently random as it tries to always match you between two tiers. So what did they try to do to completely rework the mm? I'd say first time an accident, second time would be on purpose.

[terse beacon]

Which is literally what wg did last time, you prioritise queue time and now there's matches heavily unbalanced in your "skill based mm" you prioritise trying to match perfectly and now there's people with 10+ minutes queue time it creates more problems than it actually solves. As I've said previously if you're good at the game random mm shouldn't even be an issue seeing as you can very legitimately win 70+% of your games without platoons , perhaps it's time you focused on your own gameplay instead of worrying about the matchmaking 😄

[lavish willow]

WG followed my idea to the letter? Sounds like you didn't even read what I typed at all. If you Mark are good at the game, ANY mm shouldn't bother you if you're fine with RANDOM mm. I'm worrying about everyone, that's why I'm worrying about mm. I'm asking for less random mm as the current and less-than-random mm only matches you based on your tank's tier.

[terse beacon]

I did not say they perfectly followed your idea, I'm saying they created a "sbmm" mainly focused around queue time, something similar to that would happen in the one you're proposing, also completely ignoring tank types makes for even bigger imbalances in teams Haha. And it's not about what bothers me it's about what's healthy for the game. Random mm is quite literally the fairest mm you can come up with seeing as it gives everyone the same type of teams regardless of what their stats are. Let's just say I'm thankful you're not part of the dev team 😅

[bleak mantle]

The best patch was in 2018, when the developers made a balance based on the percentage of wins in recent battles. When they rolled back the patch, I completely stopped playing in normal mode and switched to ranked mode only.

[lavish willow]

1. My idea isn't focused around queue time. 2. It's up to them if they want tank types ignored or not but if tank types were ignored, they would have more data balancing different tank types in a video game. 3. If random mm is the fairest mm, they wouldn't have added Rating. 4. I'm thankful the dev team would give a part of their time listening to what people have to say via this channel.

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[ocean cargo]

Why do you not play ranked battles instead? Two teams are balanced based on their skill there to some extent. What you are offering is making people who win 60-70% of battles because of skill win 50% instead by balancing the teams and giving them br@indead tractors as teammates, yes, it's awesome idea to the hopeless bad players who have less than 50% winrate and need to be carried. For everyone else it's horrible

@lavish willow

[nimble zodiac]

This is not the channel for matchmaking discussion

[quaint elk]

JustJokeClassic has been continuously publishing simulated ambiguous information.
4005 will got 150mm gun?

[lavish willow]

I do but I hate how it's not always available so I'm forced to play with tanks that are fully upgraded to maximize my rank. But right now, I'm focused on grinding for multiple tanks. What I'm offering is actually separating the br@indead tractors from the non ones. You're right that it would make one's winrate appear bad. The compromise I can think of right now is applying it to ranked battles if it hasn't and making it available 24/7 since as far as I could understand it, one's rank isn't determined by winrate alone but also the rank of your team and the enemy and what team beat what team. Thank you for your feedback.

[lavish willow]

Sorry, this is the closest channel I could think of. Which channel is for matchmaking discussion?

[uneven turtle]

<@&481447501690568709> discrimination

[primal yacht]

✅ vk168 was banned.

[terse cairn]

Day 24 of asking to give 260 WoT PC armour and more heat pen

[nimble anchor]

Yes but t8s are supposed to deal with t9s too
Ik t9s r supposed to deal with t10s aswell and they should be strong
This tank should be somewhat like the m48 Patton with good armor or atleast good mobility
The gun handling is amazing but the pen is too low
Even some t7s like Dracula can bully this tank with is better mobility and gun as the only armored part of this tank is the mantlet
Pls give it either an armor buff or a speed buff that will actually make a difference
Or just make it have a kind of heavy gun with more alpha and pen with a bit more aiming time
I understand that this tank shouldn't be the most op in t8 but it shouldn't be this bad
It's too mid to deal with the vast variety of playstyles this game offers and it can't really go head to head with other meds
Pls buff it in a way it actually can
Thank you

[ocean cargo]

I would suggest upgrading tanks in event modes, they don't affect your stats and usually it's better to use boosters in that modes to research quicker

[quick lichen]

This is a tank discussion channel. You know that right?

[terse cairn]

Then make a channel to discuss about these.

[limber timber]

Brah

[quick lichen]

Mm is random. That’s as complicated as it gets. You don’t need a channel just to complain in

[wicked quest]

Since the discussion channel has images disabled ( of course it is ) can we stop nerfing velocity across the board?

[brisk cedar]

You can post images now

[mystic gorge]

No that’s a good change tbh. The fact AP had the same shell velocity as APCR made APCR effectively useless in practice and made one shell inherently better than the other. That used to be how it was but WG strayed from that and now they’re reverting it

[lilac crest]

So IS-4 Become slowly but tough?

[velvet cypress]

183 needs it's old alpha and max dmg back
950-1188/1210-1513/1390-1738 - 930-1163/1300-1625/1300-1625

[lone warren]

Please use #discussion-and-feedback to discuss the new Tier X balance changes. Wargaming is collecting feedback in that channel

[modern scaffold]

*Nerf all Italian tanks.

[quick lichen]

Italian heavies? Italian players? Italian racing teams? Italian hotel prices?

[cinder shard]

Mario

[quick lichen]

Honestly yeah. Luigi needs a buff

[lethal cliff]

bro，where can see the balance？

[cinder shard]

#balance-changes
Any feedback in #discussion-and-feedback please

[compact gazelle]

wha the helly,tvp gets a buff but Patton got a fat nerf

[little oracle]

#balance-changes here

[lavish willow]

For your question, I'm aware, but it's the closest channel I can think of. The only mm I would complain now is Rating as I learned from JohnCheburek that Rating keeps track of rank and regular keeps track of winrate. Besides my idea that may improve Rating, I wish it was available 24/7 for those like me that want to keep track of their rank instead of just winrate.

[quick lichen]

Irrelevant. Off topic.

[lavish willow]

Infected is faster to upgrade? And you gave me an idea for cooldown boosters: Use only for ranked.

[lavish willow]

Which channel would be appropriate then?

[quick lichen]

General blitz discussion

Where everyone else will groan and ignore yet another person complaining about mm instead of working on improving their own gameplay

[lavish willow]

even constructive complaints, even when trying to grab the dev team's attention, and even when the person is working on improving their own gameplay at the same time?

[quick lichen]

Most are more than happy to blame everyone but themselves. Go to the right channel and post your suggestion though

[lavish willow]

Where's the right channel for the few that aren't blaming everyone but themselves?

[quick lichen]

General blitz discussion. Second time

[lavish willow]

Wrong but okay.

[drifting prism]

buff ru 251 number of shell its too low

[glass umbra]

For the fv4005 changes the gun should be interchangeable between the 123 and the 150, more choice of play styles would just seem better imo

[cinder shard]

Please put any feedback for the December rebalance in #discussion-and-feedback

[glass umbra]

Oh yeah my bad

Not what I clicked to reply to, ok discord

[lavish willow]

wrong context either way but okay.

[glass umbra]

Yeah, idk why it replied to that lol, not what id clicked

[lavish willow]

discord can be wrong.

[robust hull]

Still time to change Jag's changes. The tank is already weak enough

[fervent grove]

Glad I didn’t buy the 116, typical of WG to superbuff something, sell high, and then nerf it asap 😂

[shut thunder]

What about the blyskawica that tank needs some love

[quick lichen]

No it’s not wrong.

[ruby agate]

og is-4 return???

[lavish willow]

I wish it's not wrong.

[short needle]

Can we please consider giving the E4 8 degrees of gun depression?

[lavish willow]

I feel there should be a minimum standard for gun depression adapted to the worst of uneven terrain of all maps where they feel you're supposed to camp on it and shoot but not too much of a hard time aiming down.

[scenic hazel]

STOP NERFING THE JAGEROO

[short needle]

Also I would not nerf the reload on the WZ-113. Buffing the alpha damage to 410 only would significantly improve the tank. Only buffs for the WZ-113 please

[mystic nova]

what’s looking like comp meta? IS4, 215bs, and maybe e5??

[vestal tangle]

The 4005 will be even more cancerous imo

[low galleon]

Wargaming playing the e3:

"oh my god an e100 player knew he had to switch shell types to pen me. lets buff the armour"

are you for real?

[low galleon]

the spotter will be rhm i think, meds will be t22s, tds will still be horis and the heavies will prob be what you stated

[spark void]

Leave the poor E100 alone. What do you mean, 12km/h in reverse?

[fervent isle]

Why doesn't F1.0 change its spray paint? Now it's ugly, and the burst damage is too low

Maybe the change of 4005 is related to F1.0

[oak violet]

Bruh dont give sheridan tungsten

[cinder shard]

I mean...
The WT currently has the highest clip-potential of any tank in the game

[scenic hazel]

E3 is slow as hell bro

[low galleon]

and... what? what about the speed? i didnt mention the speed? i mentioned the armour. it doesnt need more

in fact, the only thing that was mobility, was hull traverse increasing

[scenic hazel]

Ofc bad mobility is the drawback for its armor

[low galleon]

the armour was fine, speed has nothing to do with this. its armour should not be increased

[oak violet]

Callibrated shells should get nerfed back to its old state

[scenic hazel]

Try try frontline with e3 everyone pens its lower plate

[low galleon]

thats cuz you go hull down. have you ever played the e3?

[scenic hazel]

What if you dont get maps that can hulldown?

[fervent isle]

The damage of 4005 is 1640, and the F1.0WT has 1710, but the 4005 has better speed and mobility, and it is faster to load shells. The ugly spray paint of F1.0 is not worth the price. 4005 is free

[low galleon]

name some maps that dont have hull down spots

[timber flume]

The AE phase got touched xd

[low galleon]

not the fact that the auf e100 cost over £1000 no? you didnt get it cuz of its camo

[scenic hazel]

That desert map for example

[fervent isle]

I want to change F1.0 instead of 4005

[timber flume]

Theres a city map

[low galleon]

you need help. seek therapy pls. its £1000 for pixels on a screen and youd be okay with gambling your life savings if the camo wasnt bad.

@scenic hazel oasis palms, go medium side or heavy side, both have hull down positions. on desert sands, go medium side and help the mediums

[ashen copper]

Finally they are giving tanks back AP

[timber flume]

That one map with the Aztec lookin temples

[cinder shard]

Visuals <-> tank balancing
The WT has insane potential, especially with HE as well. It can actually trade damage way more efficiently because of the high alpha.

[low galleon]

mayan ruins? who even goes to town there. you go middle

[scenic hazel]

Nobody drives e3 to med flank bro the tank goes at like 2 kilometers ☠️

[timber flume]

I go on the med/light side the most an bully people in the AMX 50B

[cinder shard]

Saying that it doesn't have enough clip potential is insane in my eyes.
It has the ability to delete a whole tank in 7 or 5 seconds with consumable

The platform that the gun is mounted on might not be the greatest ever, but that's a balancing factor for the stuff the gun can do

[low galleon]

thats why you have super speed boost. PLUS, how does going which side affect why the armour is getting buffed? it does NOT need buffing on any level

[fervent isle]

I hope I can choose its spray paint instead of locking. It should be easy to achieve this

[low galleon]

its a camo. its not the end of the world. its a rebranded tank. it wont change

[scenic hazel]

Even w speedboost e3 can barely catch up to med and the track wheels very weak one shot to the track and you are dead

[low galleon]

youre just neglecting my argument on the armour lmao because you know its true. i didnt say anything about the speed. its armour will be too good if it gets buffed, regardless of speed/mobility. and if weegee say they want a balanced game, buffing the e3s armour will not balance it

[twilit flare]

is this rage bait

[hardy flint]

omg for real. i dont think wargaming realise how unfun it is to play standard (non derp) tanks which have awful shell velocity. pair that with the supercharger nerf is absolutely crazy

[low galleon]

ofc it is. he siad the only reason he didnt spend thousands on it is cuz of the camo

[twilit flare]

bruh

[low galleon]

i know 💀

[fervent isle]

F1.0 may be very similar to T34independeace, but it did not have the locked spray paint during the test

[low galleon]

so what??? its a camo, you probably dont even have the tank so why are you complaining?

[fervent isle]

I own this tank, and I hope it's better

[cursive minnow]

I can tell you don’t use it properly then

[scenic hazel]

Idk what you mean when frontline tanks supposedly to have good armor, there are ways to counter them. I never had trouble dealing with e3 i could just HE in the hatch if i couldnt pen

[low galleon]

real.

@scenic hazel EXACTLY, YOU COULDNT PEN. so why are you supporting the fact that its armour should be improved?

[late dawn]

i think it's a good change

[scenic hazel]

Its just the lower flate lol the rest remain the same?

[narrow terrace]

You forgot to remove reactive from Super Conqueror and Ho Ri.

[low galleon]

they would have specified the lower plate.

@late dawn it really isnt.

[hardy flint]

or just from the entire game to be honest, that would be better 🤷‍♂️

[quick lichen]

The king is returning?

[narrow terrace]

I have 1200 tournament battles in IS4 excluding training. An IS4 comeback would be welcome

[late dawn]

nah man the armour is like genuinely so bad. tbh they shoulda buffed the side armour too because of how easy it is to flank in literally anything

[low galleon]

i know that attitude.

[hardy flint]

i think its actually such a joke how only E6 turret armour is getting nerfed. not the mobility, crazy DPM or pen it has.... meanwhile other mid heavy tanks are just getting completely dunked on...

[low galleon]

agh whatever. i know youre ragebaiting.

[scenic hazel]

Well they said the hull but these changes are prob just raw ideas they will prob post a better one in future

[late dawn]

nah i think ur just bad that u cant deal with e3s

[low galleon]

then pls stop arguing with me if you dont know yourself. the e3s armour is too good. itll be near OP if it gets buffed. thats it

[low galleon]

is that you wren...?

[scenic hazel]

Ok bro if they listed a tank as getting buffed then it is getting buffed lmao

[quaint helm]

ahjfkashfjkahsfjha surely not

[late dawn]

mf i sent three messages GO OUTSIDE

[quaint helm]

CLOCKED

[low galleon]

idc

@late dawn youre acting like someone i once knew, near exact. i apologise lmao

plus outside sucks. icba

[late dawn]

nawh u got it right is just funny u got it in 3 messages

[low galleon]

LMAO YOU POOB

HOWRE YOU MY MAN

[late dawn]

using poob unironically in 2025 💔🥀

[low galleon]

but yeah dont buff the e3 armour fgs

@late dawn its amazing i know

[barren moon]

pls compensate the 50b changes with its old armor

[late dawn]

i mean it's fine idrc about the e3 that much

[fervent isle]

I hope it can be replaced with the spray paint like other tanks. This one looks strange. It is the tank I play most. If it can be switched, it will be a better design. I'm just expressing my opiniona

[fringe compass]

where can I find all the stat changes

[wheat isle]

ReMake FV215 183 with more armor or idk js place it's turret on a e100 body with the speed of an avrage French and change the turrets armor so it is thick 120 cm and let the turret have 360 view.

[low galleon]

is this ragebait?

[wheat isle]

I could debate you on it too if you want to

[low galleon]

lets just say that your ask is a pretty unlikely concept, because i dont think weegee will ever make a more armoured and mobile nuke

[wheat isle]

Well uh, honestly there is no explanation to my claim

[mystic nova]

never ever

[fickle tinsel]

Thank god for a 30b buff

[cursive minnow]

LESSGOOOO

[stuck zinc]

#balance-changes

[late dawn]

the not-so-secret bzt70:

[primal yacht]

✅ illegal_299 was banned.

[wet parcel]

The Grille didn't need to dispersion while the turret moves nerf. It needs a buff in its aiming time, which they did, but I don't know if that is enough

[ember herald]

what the heck are these changes

50b restored to former glory, fv4005 finally derpy, concept autoloader and wth were wg thinking

im really gobsmacked

[white cipher]

Me wondering will vz 55 be hella mobile autoloader when the gear oil is used?

[ember herald]

e100 128 is gonna be insanw

[mystic nova]

i am not sure the changes are too groundbreaking

[cursive minnow]

<@&481447501690568709>

[ember herald]

they have massivly changed the meta from mt to ht

[primal yacht]

✅ m8335m was banned.

[low galleon]

omg yeah fr

[terse cairn]

#balance-changes message

[fringe compass]

thx

[wary saddle]

Lil bro

[cursive minnow]

You my child 🤫

[lilac sage]

bruh why you got to do the fv so dirty keep it's 4 shells

[ocean cargo]

infectred is average, but fast too, big boss was mz favourite

[old pivot]

the 183 should get a damage debuff

[dawn walrus]

No

[glad flower]

Omg @low galleon super testes

[low galleon]

[glad flower]

tester

[obtuse rover]

I miss hull baiting wid the 50b

[dawn walrus]

Fake

[lilac sage]

wth is this boooooooo

[wild knoll]

they are be doin some crazy changes with these ones

[lilac sage]

they better remove this change because it has so many dislikes

[plush stirrup]

no vk90 changes?

[flint holly]

they ruined JG, worst balance ever

[main cove]

😭 For me it was the worst part of the imbalance JG E 100 / T57

[lilac sage]

for me it's this and the t 57 heavy

[main cove]

WG doesn't like the Jg e100 and the t57, t11e4 and ho ri

[ashen copper]

When the tank had none of that everyone called it trash but now that it’s good it’s nonstop nerf the tank

[open lake]

Buff gsor fearless

[flat zephyr]

What the actual F is wrong with balancing team?

How many more times you want to nerf shell speed? You want to show love for apcr by nerfing everything else?

[lilac sage]

aboute time they buff it's turret armor again

[narrow terrace]

Please remove reactive for HoRi and Sconq. Don't wanna see a Sconq Hori rhm meta. That is not much different from the MLE and 116F3 meta we now had for a year. It is not fun to play always the same strats in tournaments. Without reactive we could have an IS4 comeback, maybe CW will be a bit like 2018/2019 again. Slower, more about defending than attacking because you cannot attack so easy without reactive. Which would be a significant change in CW meta. We now had 2 years of quite offensive and fast metas with MLE and WZ. For random battles reactive armor isn't that useful anyways. Always prefer double rep + adrenaline in randoms.

[ashen copper]

Talking about not wanting a meta but want the is4 to be the meta

[flat zephyr]

IIRC they said they want to go a different pass with is-4 just to go back to what it used to be

[fickle tinsel]

interesting take i find reactive to be significantly better than another repair in pubs

and i think most people would agree with me there

it is literally 25% less damage that is huge if you're pushing into another tank

[ashen copper]

Is4 meta was way worse than a super conq or a 54

[flat zephyr]

specially running it with cooldown reduction consumable

[fickle tinsel]

yep, actually crazy leverage if playing aggressive in a tank like the sconq

[simple trellis]

buff jpz e100

[crystal mantle]

they finally buffed my goat yoh

[unique scaffold]

They gotta buff the BT-7 artillery

[sacred folio]

My 777 is gonna be back in the meta

[hushed timber]

idk why ppl disagree with this #balance-changes message

[primal mango]

Not enough has been done to it I feel. I recently played 80-90 games on it, the side armour is not good enough for the main play style it tries to accomplish, that being side scrapping. That and increasing the durability of the Ammorack behind the front drive wheels are the two buffs it really needs.

[hushed timber]

Wargaming needs to give the NC-70 Gear oil

Also the 183 needs an accuracy nerf in general.

[pure summit]

Alright who convinced wg to give tungsten to sheridan? The tank is already toxic as it is

[hushed timber]

if sheri drive by's werent bad then. after the rebalance they sure will create more report logs.

i wonder how much the armor will be buffed by ( hull armor )

[north tundra]

Is old is 4 gonna be back, also it keeps its super speed boost?

[oak coral]

Carro being mega buffed and the E50M being nerfed...no

[gleaming monolith]

Buff ms1

[vapid island]

OMG They finally buff the murat

[mortal obsidian]

As a new grinder I'm very welcome about the new rebalance tanks 😜

[mortal shore]

equipment did not need to be touched ngl

[heavy rock]

Did the update hit yet?

I kinda like the new balance

[cold atlas]

No

[heavy rock]

Is there a date of update?

[cold atlas]

Don’t know

[mortal obsidian]

Like the Reactive armor?

[crisp bane]

114 sp2 needs a buff

Collectible 60TP with a worse gun and slightly better turret and upper mantlet armor, I still managed some of my best matches with it but it's generally a hit or miss

[junior dust]

that the big change
with a reticle you will damage the enemy over 1400 in only 4 sec with out miss

[remote sluice]

650 + 650 = 1300

[hazy sierra]

why cant i see the balance changes channel

[junior dust]

damn nice to know that

said over

[heavy rock]

I've read all of them and IT'S GREAT 😃 👍

T95e6 has way too much speed and that's a good nerf

[white musk]

What do you guys think about the tier X nerfs and buffs?

[heavy rock]

To see if our favorites are nerfed

[jagged fern]

I have no idea why FV215b is being buffed so significantly and even less why people are cheering for it. Do you really want to get farmed every single game by an op vehicle? Or are the reactions just selfishness?

Together with Kran, SuperConq, LT, Hori and E50m it was the only tank able to keep up with the craziness which is the 116F3 in the current state.
It’s one of the vehicles which good players will overperform in because they don’t need much more than good gun handling and insane dpm (and decent turret armor with that already)

Less tanks in the game having reactive armor will be healthy for tournaments. (Ideally none should have it).

Adding autoloader to concept seems really weird, I hate that change. Why does a tank which has always been about dpm and sitting hull down and dishing out punishment to anyone who peaks him… if you can aim well enough to deal with bad penetration…. Why is it suddenly an ambush vehicle with two shells?

[eternal granite]

[tranquil willow]

I can't believe they removed the Tungsten shell for the Jg Pz E 100. I wish that was an option for the FV 215 b 183. They could reduce reload time, aiming time and dispersion by at least one second. I'd be satisfied with that.

[ashen copper]

The FV was never op

[sleek pier]

TVP T 50/51

• Alpha damage 310/250/410 → 320/255/430
• Reload speed 23.59 → 19.18
• Between shells 1.88 s → 1.5 s
• Quantity of shells 4 → 3
• Shell speed 1400/900/900 → 900/860/700
• View Range 260 → 255

I mean everything is fine but removing another shell is too much, it's not bad but just saying that kept the same Autoloader the same and 1.6/1.7 sec interclip

[flat zephyr]

It was at launch in 2015 or 2016 I can't remeber yhe year

[ashen copper]

😂😂 not even close

[lone warren]

Please try to use #discussion-and-feedback when talking about the new tier ten balance changed

[wraith valve]

Is that new channel for tier 10 rebalance discussion?

[summer yoke]

Where can I see all of this?

[wraith valve]

#balance-changes enjoy the whole rebalance text😌

[summer yoke]

Thanks very much

[uneven turtle]

While it’s getting a dpm and armor and hp buff, I’d imagine that it’s still going to be a tricky tank for average players to use due to its clunky size and 7 degrees of gun depression, the only change that would make 215B an overpowered tank is if the armor buff is overkill, otherwise it’s still the same nothing-but-a-gun tank, albeit with more hp and armor now.

Don’t forget that there are also other tanks that are getting overcooked, with rino having the potential to reach 10 degrees of gun depression

The T110E5 is also getting a really good buff, 28 degrees of hull traverse to 33 degrees is a massive leap, alongside its dpm with reload dropping by 0.20, personally I’m really just focused on the traverse buff it’s getting because when I used the E5, the turning radius was the only thing that irked me, everything else felt great

Superb hulldown heavy that’s only going to get better, and it’s also getting +100 hit points which is also a noticeable difference

So, yes Fv215B may become ridiculous strong, but other tanks are also becoming ridiculously strong, so I don’t think the power gap between tanks are really increasing

[clear shuttle]

all the 215B really needed was its old ufp plate back 🙏

[mystic nova]

so this seems like a skill issue on your part. there should be vehicles in this game that are op in good players hands. it makes the game enjoyable for us, and gives players a challenge. Being able to make something work that is meant to be difficult but rewarding should not be frowned upon.

[heavy rock]

You kidding? It's op even from now when it updates it's gonna be more op

[ashen copper]

Explain how it’s op

[heavy rock]

1 turret armor is alr good
2 speed
3 gun and dpm and it's hesh
4 even has booster lol

[clear shuttle]

its not op, rather in the right hands it can be pretty strong, like someone already mentioned (i think) the "average player" or someone that isnt used to playing it will probably find it average or below average, if anything alll this change really does it drop the "skill ceiling" a little lower for it

[junior dust]

TVP was distinct cuz of 4 shells idk what WG doing

[heavy rock]

Well some people just use it to shoot and run

[ashen copper]

The turret has been the same forever the speed is ok the booster got nerfed and it doesn’t have reactive anymore

@clear shuttle exactly the tank is not op

[heavy rock]

Not beginner friendly but it's still op when it comes to 1v1

[ashen copper]

The tank is worse than it was when the front armor was 172

[clear shuttle]

yes but thats in a 1v1.. again i dont think the average player would perform very well in it in a 1v1 let alone pubs (compared to someone who can play it very well)

[heavy rock]

Bro years ago armor is easily penned by e100 (150mm) without equipments

Since I was a very nub back then lol

Also now it's very hard to pen

[kindred plank]

Making stronger bat-chat and making weaker tvp is just mocking every single tvp lover

[heavy rock]

Imbalance WG lol

[kindred plank]

Its conpletely nonsense

[heavy rock]

I'm happy that some auto loaders get nerfed

[kindred plank]

I also dont get why they are nerfing wz113 and making stronger fv215b

[mystic nova]

tbh thhese changes are not that different

[ashen copper]

Turret was never that weak

[heavy rock]

Bro I swear I penned fv alot back then

[ashen copper]

They can take the booster and give the armor