tank-balance-discussion

[ionic kraken]

Not saying that it doesn't always work, merely that half the time it doesn't matter if you are hulldown. There will be stubborn people who will do anything just to damage you, like monkeys using a rocks to crack open a coconuts.

Regardless, 50t still feels like it lacks a proper punch and tungsten isn't a valid argument when you won't be able to use it for more than 2 shots every minute and with how the games go, you'll only ever be able to use tungsten once or twice per game, three if it drags on a minute longer.

[uneven turtle]

Even if tungsten doesn’t last long, it’s still a boost to the alpha for a moment

And you’re using a lot of factors outside of 50T lorraine

[ionic kraken]

Still, I'd rather sacrifice tungsten for an outright damage buff. Give it 400 damage per shot and take away tungsten, simple as that. I'd rather constantly do good damage rather than have periodic boosts, that may also be insignificant with RNG factors like the shot going off-centre, bouncing or just the target hiding until the consumable wears off.

[worldly quartz]

Buff Vk 72.01k alpha to 630 and nerf the reload a little cus why does it has the lowest alpha out of all the derp tier 10 heavies(600 alpha btw) also who even plays this tank because it’s not good (only me)

[cinder shard]

Honestly, it isn't too bad. You get tungsten, pretty solid frontal armor, very decent mobility for that armor, and ok-ish gun handling as well. I wouldn't say the tank is weak, just pretty overlooked since it got nerfed. The 600 alpha gives it a bit of a balance between dpm and alpha, which makes it fairly versatile in my eyes.

[odd remnant]

vk72 is insane because of the mobility and armor
gun isnt the selling point
tank doesnt need any more buffs, just buy equipment for the thing and make sure to use the right slots

[twin egret]

Lorraine 50 t just needs to be able to go faster, it's kinda stupid the lorraine 40 t has more hp on the engine than the Lorraine 50 t.... when it should be the opposite yk
supposedly it has a "better engine" to account for weighing more but has like 20 less hp stat-wise

[wet solstice]

Give CS-63 speed mode, tank can go to 80KP/H but 0.34 despersion, 2.5 second change time

[twin egret]

In Wargaming's eyes it already has speed mode already, it's called "Improved Engine Boost"

[rose briar]

was until they remove it after supertest

[simple trellis]

but it can’t sidescrape

[scarlet yarrow]

NERF THE T34 1776, ITS TOO OP AND NEEDS TO BE NERFED, I SHOULD NOT BE BOUNCING THE HULL OF A T34 IN A T77

[cinder shard]

I mean the hull is really only good when the tank uses it's gun depression. Even then, you can shoot for the MG-port. The tank has so many other downfalls, the armor buff really didn't make it overpowered by any means. Take something like the Bisonte for example. Way more armor, better gun handling, much better dpm, reserve shell and better mobility as well. That thing probably is the over-performing T8 and both T34 variations get nowhere near it.

[scarlet yarrow]

wrong, i bounced it on flat ground

[cinder shard]

Okay? And this would be without calibrated shells equipped and with the T34 running enhanced armor.

[scarlet yarrow]

then why was it all red

[cinder shard]

🤷‍♂️ Sounds like it was either behind some cover or angled backwards to me. Even then you can pen the top of the turret and parts of the hull

[wary saddle]

Man you have skill issue if you are struggling against a Relic

T34 of all the tanks, you gotta question yourself man.

[humble ermine]

T77 players xd

[ivory quiver]

T77 is op I heard it should be able to beat all the tanks

[scarlet yarrow]

the tank's hull was literally red on flat ground

[cursive minnow]

I doubt it

[honest drift]

T34 my beloved

[ionic kraken]

Just nerf calibrated and buff enhanced (return old equipment stats)

[simple trellis]

:3maybe because this guy watches droodles

[quick lichen]

You’re never gonna believe this

The regular T34 is even better

[odd remnant]

dudes playing a T77 (APCR Standard) (Yuck), not carefully aiming on a tank that recently got buffed (T34 1776) and then complaining when his broken tank can't club T34s as hard as before

[wide sable]

What do you consider the right equipment and slots for vk 72

[odd remnant]

just use improved suspension and cali
rest is up to your playstyle, I recommend taking enhanced armour
equipment has and always be mainly a prsonal preference

[trim drift]

bro the kozept does 500 dmg per shot with armor thats not penable with premium apcr it just destroys every t8 ht in a few second who in their right mind thought this was a good idea for t9 if it was t10 it wouldve been understandable if the single shot gun did 500 alpha it was understandable but wth is autoloader with same alpha as foch doing in t9 , how high were you ppl when you decided 'hmm this good tank lets break this tank' rather than fixing the power diff between mts and hts you ppl were like hey lets make konzept a mobile tank that can circle heavies with ease have 1000dmg clip . it would be fun .Even murat doesnt come close to it , you ppl were like why should we make more free tanks playable we already gave them e50m that is also broken lets give them broken collector tank even 116 cant go againt erich. the problem meta tier nine like atac , fve defender,erich is that they go up against t8 where they can go through armor like butter and mts and lts dont have the alpha to keep up againts them

[pastel talon]

hi

[clear shuttle]

it dosent "need" to side scrape to be annoying

[fervent isle]

What does "闪送宝" mean?

It looks interesting

[regal rampart]

means fast deliverer

[fossil marten]

I’ve just played 7 battles in regular, back to back, in the Erich, all were against tier 10. I play a lot of tier 9 and I’d say on a rough estimate 90% plus are against tier 10. I agree the Erich is busted but I’m mostly facing tier 10 so it doesn’t feel like I’m getting a big advantage.

[grave vault]

I didn't know Germans knew Chinese.

[scenic hazel]

Nerf konzept to 1.9k dpm

And give it apcr standard

[novel raven]

They won’t nerf the Erich Concept until after the gambling event is over otherwise the tank wouldn’t be appealing

[quiet heath]

Xd
"Nerf" ???

[cinder shard]

To nerf = to worsen a tanks characteristics.

[trim drift]

i mostly play tier 8 and these things just erase low tier tanks like dust

[ivory quiver]

Yikes

I play a lot but even I’m done with event teams for this month 💀

[novel raven]

Reduce the gun dmg or increase dispersion etc basically make the tank worse. This will likely happen next update after the gambling event is over. Honestly it is a clipper tank now with good dpm. They should just revert the buff on turret armor

[novel raven]

It’s not that good. It’s only amazing in a skilled players hands. For most of the player base it’s just an average tier 9 tank

[simple trellis]

😂😂😂

[wet parcel]

Honestly, what is the meaning of the Cobra now after the new gun on the Erich Koncept?
The AP on the new gun has 500 alpha, same on the Cobra's HESH, that having more pen than the HESH and being ok with penetrating spaced armor.

[white inlet]

I'm not watching Fox News. I could careless about "fair and balance." All I want is for each and every tank be what its historic documents/video footage and/or its blueprints state. Which brings me to this when it comes to the "realistic" game. We all know such tanks like the Smasher and the Annihilator never existed. They are not allowed into the realistic game. Then why should tanks that have been dumb down or nerfed be allowed into the game either? In such a format, they have never existed. Therefore, based on management and developer's own reasoning, nerfed tanks should not be allowed into the realistic game.

[cursive minnow]

What

[quick lichen]

No politics (idc if they claim to be an “entertainment” network)

This isn’t a mil sim

Dunno how else to say that you won’t be getting accurate tanks when we have draculas and annihilators running around

[fallen mist]

As for the new gun on the Erich, it's a 152mm, so not exactly accurate, plus the 20 second reload and 5 second intraclip pretty much balance out the alpha of the gun

[hollow pelican]

I personally think that the KV2 needs MORE DAMAGE

[scenic hazel]

Cobra sacrifices so much for literally the same alpha as konzept 😭

[pale flower]

weird, it didnt show the armor buff on Blitzstar
edit: nevermind it did

[signal bone]

Should I go for the avenir or the M46 jaguar, I can't get both.

[pale flower]

I really like the Avenir, I dont have the jaguar yet but they says its like playing the Leopard. If you like the BC playstyle, I would go with the Avenir. If you like the Leopard playstyle, I would go with the Jaguar

[fallen mist]

Doesn't the Cobra have a 440 alpha gun?

[prisma jetty]

no

[scenic hazel]

I meant the hesh one, also cobra has same dpm is crazy

[wet solstice]

Crazy how 116-F3 has a higher top speed then the IS-7, Buff is-7 top speed back to 50 again its been a while

[fervent isle]

I used some power.

[kind maple]

Should WG give a 90mm gun to this lil bud, it has bad dpm

[ember idol]

They did, and for whatever reason it's going to be in tier 8

[robust violet]

Where did you get that tank?

[fervent isle]

I used the Chinese server

[rose briar]

90mm elc bis were real

[white musk]

man the CHI-SE is aswome as a tier 8 i love it

[lime carbon]

when are the devs gonna give T-62A the love it deserves 💔

[nimble zodiac]

It deserves less love, how about that

[queen geyser]

how do u feel about 121b atm

[summer mist]

WG... you made another mistake with that new german tier IX tank
Matchmaking is unbalanced and it as annoying as when the Chimera was released

[ivory quiver]

Prime chimera was crazy

And it’s still one of the best performing t8s without super consumables 💀

[teal shadow]

hello!
i want to know if you guys have any plans to buff Glacier and Fänrik
for Glacier it needs more Engine power because heavy tanks are faster than this tank and maybe make the reloading time faster.
for Fänrik make the inter clip/ time between shells lower from 3.8 at least to 3 seconds and give it some more engine power please
that's what i want because we spent a lot of money on these tanks but they are not even a normal tank with these changes you can make it playable and might convince players to buy season boxes to get them i have these 2 tanks of the season tanks I don't have regressor so i don't know how good or bad it is.
i wish you guys the best from your loyal tanker
Rawaz.

[flint iris]

I couldn't help but notice
The minimap Shows there's a person Infront of me. While there is certainly not a person Infront of me.

[cinder shard]

Happens sometimes when you ping a tank with "attack this" just as it becomes unspotted.

[pale granite]

You have to balance all tech tree tanks
especially tier 8s
you giving buffs to most of premium and collectors but tech trees.
Fix IS3's gun, its too inaccurate for a 400 alpha in t8, there are too many accurate (relatively) 400ish alpha gun tanks in t8 (53Tp, Type57, Is2sh, Tornvagn)

[fervent isle]

BZT70 is very interesting

[fallow eagle]

Wait
How did you get this screenshot?
it's still in testing no?

[uneven pike]

Get in a team with tester, use free cam (only on PC), hide U.I

[signal dagger]

He is most likely a tester, because all tanks that are not released yet are in tester hand so the tank is well balance when wg releases it.

[fallow eagle]

Ah alright

[fallow eagle]

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[primal yacht]

✅ tumapfd was banned.

[cinder shard]

For WG servers - yes. It has been released on Netease / WoT China though.

[uneven pike]

I would love if WG stop nerfing shell velocity and give gunpowder as a roundabout way of nerfing credit income on tank

[uneven turtle]

Gunpowder is the second cheapest provision??
The only trade off is that gun powder takes away the slot of a repair kit/regular fuel/regular food which are all more expensive other than regular fuel which is only 200 credits cheaper

Pricing in case you need to see it for yourself

[uneven pike]

Ok I will rephrase, I wish WG would stop nerfing shell velocity and at the same time adding gunpowder
Or to boost supercharge usage

[uneven turtle]

To be fair it gives more variety to equipment use and sometimes shell velocity can be a good balancing factor for tanks that generally should be in close range combat, therefore discouraging long range playstyles, like camping for example unless you’re in a TD

Also adds a layer of skill required to play the tank that has its shell velocity nerfed by forcing the player to lead their shots at mid to longe range engagements

Personal opinion here but shell velocity nerfs are a good way to balance a tank without changing it’s capabilities at close range and being decently skilled can basically negate such nerfs

[twin egret]

it's useful in gravity mode

[wet solstice]

No, E100 and VK 72 exist for that reason

[proper kiln]

Buff 60tp drivers port armour

[twin egret]

buff the lkpz m41 90 mm by giving it 10 degrees of gun depression and slightly better on-movement dispersion
it's so annoying cumbersome than it should be really

[shadow dove]

there is a limit to how deep it can go, if it has too much depression, the gun will hit the roof of the tank on the inside

[twin egret]

poor excuse when that would be the case for several tanks in the game, yet still have gun derpession/elevation arcs that wouldn't be possible for them realistically, not to mention the T49's 90mm still has -10 with the second turret, despite being shorter

[shadow dove]

I don't have a T49 and I also am not planning on getting a T49

[autumn zodiac]

Depends on the modifications made, the breach block could be much larger considering the 90mm km Lekpz is a shaved down 76mm

[wicked quest]

The breech is the same for the Lekpz (infact it’s the same gun ) even though the modification was never done by Germany, Brazil who did it simply bored out the barrel

[autumn zodiac]

Interesting, I suppose if the charge load is compensated (lowered) then it wouldn't increase the recoil too much and barrel pressure wouldn't be an issue either

[wicked quest]

This is why it’s ammo load is AP and HEAT irl it relies mostly on heat, and it takes considerably less pressure to fire it also doesn’t need to travel fast anyways

[heady dawn]

The Erich is so unbelievably OP it doesn't even need an explanation at this point. It shouldn't be able to dump 1000 damage in 5 seconds AND have good dpm to boot

I propose lowering the alpha to 460 and increasing the shell reload time to 6.50. Because currently, even most tier 9s don't stand a chance against it, let alone any tier 8s

[river oracle]

funny because it used to be the worst t9 medium

[untold fern]

When will the type 62 be on sale again?

[formal timber]

bro, that's the reason why they made it the main prize

[muted rampart]

No one knows.

[fathom oxide]

Why does the Rinoceronte only reload 2 rounds in reverse while the Kranvagn with 116 F3 reloads 3 rounds in reverse? 🤔

[nimble zodiac]

Because they are made to be different

[fathom oxide]

and why doesn't the Type 63 use a single round magazine? even though the ammo box is arranged at the back of the turret quite like the Rinoceronte?🤔

[simple trellis]

wait gunpowder exists?

[ocean reef]

It got clowned on so much that they decided to overcook it kinda like the bisonte
I think lowering the alpha and keeping the intra clip the same would be ideal

[uneven turtle]

For a certain number of tanks

[full cedar]

is there a way we can get old Vickers gun back, at least as an alternative gun? After the update the tank just became worse, HESH simply doesn't fit in it, can't even penetrate the lower plate of an angled Jg E100 with the standard shell

[meager dawn]

Bro a light tank shouldnt be able to pen an angled jg

[full cedar]

hmm, sheridan, wz132-1, e50m, batchat, t100... basically all meds and lights can pen it except the current vickers, even tiers IX, and not all the circunstances is necessary the gold ammo

[leaden fable]

Why I'm always at the wrong team, please do better match making, 1win in a 10 game make me high blood lol, please do better

[cursive minnow]

Maybe you should do better as well

[fading rivet]

Carry more

[shadow dove]

judging by your xp earnings, you don't even do too well yourself

[leaden fable]

Maybe your right, I'm not too good on blitz unlike on my PC wot, hehe, or maybe I'm too slow reaction of my left hand because of my stroke, just playing wot b week ago,

[shadow dove]

the thing with the two games is that wot pc is slow gameplay, camping, etc. and blitz is the opposite

[fringe lantern]

Still nothing official from WG about recent balance change, good job WG! Way to improve trust in your company. Did you ever wonder why fewer and fewer players spend money on the game? After reforged announcement caused major concerns in player base, the only thing you mentioned as a lesson learned was poor communication. How do you think that is going now?

[odd remnant]

none of the balance changes were nerfs, and anytime the tank got released, their stats were announced on the official website
WG is more of just re-releasing these tanks as if they never existed before

[shadow dove]

Buff Rhm Pzw. penetration, 241mm is awful

[muted rampart]

Tbh we really do need more balance changes on regular basis. If something doesn't work you can just revert it within a day, it really isn't hard, i can't understand WGs policy on that

We should get a new set of balance changes at least once a month.

Whether it's premium, tech tree or whatever, if it doesn' fit, just change it. If the changes turn out bad as well just revert it as soon as possible and try again in the next set.

[fringe lantern]

Point is though, they DID exist - with different characteristics. I am supposed to go through all 7-800 tanks after each update to see what has changes if I want to have any idea what I am fighting in or against??? It is hard enough to remember all the changes even when they are announced. But going from hard to impossible is not an improvement in my world.

[odd remnant]

i mean, there's third party sources that keep track of just about everything

[meager dawn]

with pramo they can, the vickers has hesh so if you find yourself in front of a heavily armoured tank like the jg then youre doing something wrong

[fallow eagle]

Mines and dead rail?

[meager dawn]

mines isnt a ratings map for a reason and dead rail you generally wont be forced to be infront of a tank like that if you play well (as a med/light)

[full cedar]

That's what I mean and why I'm asking to bring the old gun back, at least as an alternative one

[subtle edge]

Does it have Wz 116 f3 An alternative gun?

[muted rampart]

Yes, it has been added recently

[simple trellis]

plz rename M46 jaguar to M47 jaguar

[uneven turtle]

1. Pinging devs doesn’t work, and that you’re also asking for a mute

2. Asking for a renaming of a tank is not related to balance whatsoever, and thus not even worth pinging about

[terse cairn]

I would say just remove its autoloader and give it a single shot gun with 500 alpha

[shy isle]

How to play IS-4? I try sidescrap and it doesn't seem work, or I just play it wrong?

[fallow eagle]

Give vickers light, another gun option where it load premium heat or apcr with 300 mm(heat) or 320 mm(apcr) base pen. The current gun is very situational. If no gun option, just increase the alpha of the rounds back to their originals, it was a very fun and balanced tank with 350 alpha

[gray mountain]

It just has weak armor

[cinder basin]

🗿Strv k need better turret armour

[glad flower]

Nice balance discussion

Rank 9 tank without equipment
The jokes write themselves

[shadow dove]

these are the pro players fr 🙏

[rustic garnet]

the FV-1066 senlac need i think needs a buff in my opinion the tank is a bit too similar to an fv 301 which makes it a bit useless to play maybe modify the gun by allowing it for example to have HESH shells or or maybe a small buff of damage pers shoot, a better spot, a slight improvement in the gun reload time or other but something

[stoic hare]

Thx bro

[simple trellis]

oops, but the tanks is not a M46

[shadow dove]

how is it not?

[simple trellis]

can we send links here

[shadow dove]

not sure about links, but images yes

[simple trellis]

The “M46 Jaguar” is a M46 hull because of the lower sprocket, but it has a M47 turret

[raw thistle]

ples buff the smasher pls pls

[simple trellis]

M47

[shadow dove]

I don't have the M46 from the tech tree, nor have I looked at the M46 Jaguar so I can't really tell

[simple trellis]

M46 (look at compensating idler at bottom right of this pic and compare to first pic)

@shadow dove

[simple trellis]

Has the turret of the M46 jaguar, but not the hull

The M46 Jaguar in WoTB has a M47 turret, but the M46 hull

M46 Patton Hull:

• Based on: The M46 hull was essentially an improved and upgraded version of the M26 Pershing hull.
• Shape: The hull retained the general shape of the M26 with some modifications, such as improved armor thickness and some adjustments to improve mobility and reliability.
• Armor: The M46 had thicker frontal armor than the M26, but the hull design stayed fairly consistent with a welded construction.
• Engine compartment: The engine and transmission layout was improved for better cooling and maintenance.
• Suspension: Used a torsion bar suspension system, similar to the M26.

M47 Patton Hull:

• New design: The M47 hull was a new design, larger and wider than the M46.
• Shape: The M47 had a more modern and angular hull design compared to the M46. The front glacis plate was sloped for better ballistic protection.
• Armor: Improved armor protection overall; the hull was beefed up, especially on the front and sides.
• Engine compartment: Designed to house the Continental AV-1790-5B engine, with changes in cooling and exhaust layout.
• Suspension: Still torsion bar suspension but with some changes to accommodate the heavier hull.
• Additional changes: The M47 hull incorporated better crew ergonomics and internal layout improvements, including a different driver’s hatch and improved access panels.

lol chatgpt answer

CONCLUSION:
WoTB is weird

The M46 Jaguar has a M47 turret and M46 hull, so wargaming should make the hull M47

[prisma jetty]

I mean the original M47s were just the T42 turret on the M46 hull, and it was only once production started that the hull was switched over to the updated design

[worldly quartz]

Give Vk 72.01k 640 alpha and nerf the reload by a second cus 600 alpha is jsut the worst out of all the derp heavies

[full cedar]

u have tungsten

[formal timber]

I have an idea for a new collector tank

[fast merlin]

you mean tech tree right?.... right?
https://tenor.com/view/padme-4-panel-meme-attack-of-the-clones-padme-meme-anakin-padme-gif-6902972594242919448

[scenic hazel]

Give konzept apcr standard
Give 140 adaptive

[ionic kraken]

252 needs a buff

[marsh shoal]

Add Strv 103b to game

[gloomy chasm]

Give 5A a Buff on the upper hull

[formal timber]

So ISU-203
Gun 203 mm

AP = 1050 damage
HEAT = 870 damage
HE = 1365 damage

Penetration

AP = 320 mm
HEAT = 380 mm
HE = 120 mm

it was balanced enough for me on tier 10

[nimble zodiac]

Other stats have to be considered

[crimson frost]

yes a new 183

[obtuse vigil]

380mm pen and 870 dmg? doesn’t seem that balanced
dealing 50% of ur hp in every single shot isn’t fair, plus why 380mm heat if u have 320mm ap? and this without calibrated shells, make it a besh tank with 220mm pen or summ

[ember idol]

(The Russians didn't develop HESH, and a HE shell of that calibre is devastating enough)

[runic oasis]

Should the progetto get better dpm
It lacks alot compared to other meds

[indigo tide]

Which one ? 46 or 65 ?
For both, I think not because they are autoreloaders, they don’t need that much dpm to be efficient

[simple trellis]

cheese wedge 🧀

[formal timber]

the regular AP shells penetration is slightly higher than HO-RI Type-3 and the HEAT shells penetration is same as jagdpanzer E-100 and for the HE shells, penetration is adjusted to the size of the cannon caliber

[marsh shoal]

Add this tank as a T10 Collector

[full cedar]

you already have this tank as a tier IX in the game bruh

[marsh shoal]

What abt this

[formal timber]

How about this, ISU-152K for tier 9 destroyer tank ane ISU-203 for tier 10 destroyer tank, maybe both of them be a collector or maybe be a tech tree ?

[cursive minnow]

Have you seen the tiger maus

[marsh shoal]

Bro it's not a TD it's a Artillery

[muted rampart]

How about we satisfy ourselves with 183 and BZT and not add any more ridiculously high alpha tanks to the game

[viral portal]

Can WOTB add Object 279

[full cedar]

wg would ask for $100 in an offer if they ever release that lol
@prisma jetty $1000 in crates

[prisma jetty]

only $100?

[scarlet yarrow]

REMOVE BASE CAP, ITS RUINING THE GAME

[ivory quiver]

💀

[vapid island]

Why they didn't buff the murat
I say this since murat' release date
Poor P/W ratio
Poor camorate with thin armor
Low dpm and low burst dmg
Ssibal at least buff dpm or p/w ratio

[vestal ocean]

Dev please buff the e5 dpm

[runic oasis]

Im talking about the progetto 65

[full cedar]

it doesnt need it

[simple trellis]

it’s gonna be OP
So add sturm tiger too

[sacred bridge]

New gun option(or change) for Minotauro: Instead of auto re-load,give it an autoloader with 3 shell ,Clip reload is 21 secs,5 secs for changing, 0.294 dispersin,4.3 second of aiming time,also give more armor to the cupola,Just buff 1 cupola so its not easy to hit both of them

[grave vault]

Forget all of the tanks, when will they buff the mighty Thunder, the first and real battlepass tank (not a camouflage).

[ancient crypt]

116-F3 has something weird going on with the Hull Front. Had 2 HESH Shells do effectively nothing. Other than that the games functioning literally perfectly for me today , not even had any lag

[cursive minnow]

Uh-huh

[lofty pendant]

Wg buff conqueror please it’s so bad

[full cedar]

its good wdym, just dont expose urself too much

[waxen geode]

Is that M4A1 Revalorisé a real tank?

[honest drift]

was planned but we don’t know if any prototypes were made

[waxen geode]

Thank you so much!!!

[twin egret]

It's a real tank it's called the Super Sherman

[radiant valve]

The Super Sherman is not of Israel? I think

[granite mason]

add the p1000

[shadow dove]

Keep dreaming, that is what you will be told

[frank grail]

Hi can you guys please consider adding a little mm to the maus turret? Its a super heavy super slow tank whos turret cheeks flat sections can be penned by basically every single t10... And the e 50 m is a medium tank but it has 285 mm, so can you guys please add just 10 mm to the maus turret so that it actually makes sense, it is plainly just not a great tank right now and this buff wouldn't make it super strong or anything, just more usable

[muted rampart]

It is a French design that was sold to Israel

[shy lintel]

What's wrong with your game? Why the shots dont do damage? Why all week i have one victory for ten loses? day by day

[indigo tide]

Second one is because of lag, but first one is really strange
But it’s not the right place to talk about that, it’s not balance related

[scarlet yarrow]

Give the tier 7 AMX Heavy a double shot gun with 310 alpha and a 3.5 second reload time between shots, that can make it have a similar play style to the rest of the tanks that come after it

[slate ruin]

Or just give it a second gun with gold/apcr like before

[tight sky]

I think he posted it everywhere

[muted rampart]

1st shot was just poorly aimed... you shot directly into the additional armor plate, what did you expect?

[wicked quest]

That wasn’t lag, you always aim ahead of where your targets going no matter the distance otherwise that happens

[shadow dove]

What did you smoke, a Chieftain does not need a 2 shell autoloader, if you really want that, play the VZ 55

[scenic hazel]

I dont think ap shell supposed to bounce that no

[muted rampart]

They are? It's quite literally additional like 20mm of armor. It's the strongest part of Defender's turret, you just don't shoot at it

As you can see on the clip he shot it right when defender turned his turret to angle

[scenic hazel]

Even addition 20mm wouldnt make any sense, it was a flat side. Only heat cant pen spaced armor

[muted rampart]

That's nonsense. Spaced armor works on any shell in the game, it just has an additional effect on HEAT. HEAT loses some additional pen in contact with, but normal shells like AP also still need to pen it.

I just checked on Blitz Kit, this plate is actually 76mm thick, not 20.

This is a massive difference

[scenic hazel]

Yea blitzkit doesnt show that should be a bounce with the same angle. Also i meant itd be understandable to bounce a flat side of spaced armor if it was heat

[muted rampart]

How? It does show it should be a bounce. Again, remember he was turning the turret why the guy shot, it was not a flat side shot

Well, it's still additional lesson for the future to not ever shopt at additional armor plates if you can avoid it.

I bounced side of Def Mk.1 or S conq too many times to ever fall for that again

[scenic hazel]

its pure green for me though, i pretty sure the mark 1 was standing still when the guy snapped

[muted rampart]

Blitzkit works terribly on phones, but here you go. You can see it is red.

I won't get into entire math theory about that, but at any range above facehug level, the vertical/horizontal angle from which you shoot is negated.

Thus you should always position the tank model on flat ground level if you shoot at distance of like 50m+

[silver mauve]

I designed BlitzKit with phones in mind from the very beginning. Your experience is unfortunately an extrema. Could you please tell me what device you're running BlitzKit on? Seems like the armor rendering isn't even displaying any of the highlights.

[muted rampart]

Samsung galaxy A54

It could be browser issue tho, i am using modified chrome version that allows me to add extensions to mobile browser

[silver mauve]

BlitzKit directly uses your phone's hardware to speed things up if possible so it's probably your phone. Nevertheless, what's the browser?

[muted rampart]

It's kiwi browser, it has recently been discontinued but still works

[silver mauve]

Kiwi uses Chromium behind the scenes, the same thing that powers Chrome. The Kiwi browser was discontinued this January, so if you have the app updated, the app should be recent enough to still work. This is likely a bug in BlitzKit. I will look into it further, but because I don't have a Samsung Galaxy A54, this process might be slow.

To get started, can you please show me the console output of the page?

You can access this by launching BlitzKit and switching to armor mode. Then, press the triple dots on the top right of the screen (to the right of the address bar) and click developer tools. Finally, click console and please send me images documenting every error that shows up there.

[muted rampart]

I'll send it in DM to not flood the chat

[tranquil isle]

Pls make centurion 1 more armour

[dreamy nymph]

the only reason the murat is "weak" is because its balanced and many other tanks need nerfs

[vapid island]

Saying that other tanks are OP and only Murat is balanced means that Murat's performance is significantly lower than other tanks.
If what you're saying is true, then we have no choice but to buff Murat, right?

I'm really curious about your WN8 rating?

[dreamy nymph]

theres more too it than just that, but crudely yes. there are many tanks right now that should be nerfed that wargaming keeps buffing 2.8k wn8

[vapid island]

I wonder if there's anything else in need of a nerf besides the E50m among the Tier 10 Mediums.

Murat, on the other hand, is on the lower end of the Tier 10 Mediums, so isn't it only natural that he needs a buff?

[clear shuttle]

im more curious on avg damage and wr over wn8

[dreamy nymph]

2.8k, i only play tier x, @vapid island the murat sacrifices everything for the gun, similar to the leopard, the players ability to capitalize on the gun is a make or break for the tank and the leopard is a great tank, they both perform poorly among less skilled players but that doesn't mean that they are bad tanks by any means.

[vapid island]

Does it have the same overwhelming gun handling and DPM as the Leopard? No.

How exactly can the Murat's main gun be compared to the Leopard's?

But to begin with, the Leopard's operational methods are different, with a clip-mounted gun and a single-shot gun.

Have you forgotten that the Leopard boasts unparalleled mobility compared to the Murat, superior stationary camouflage, better camouflage on the move, and a smaller body?

If you have a hull with crappy performance, you need to have a gun that is superior to other medium tanks to be competitive, but honestly, the biggest problem with Murat is that his gun performance is average.

Murat from Blitz is worse than Char Murat from WoT

Honestly, the plays Murat can do are better performed by other tier 10 mediums.

[dreamy nymph]

these are all things to take into account and yes i see your point, but also the murat has a clip, it sacrifices a lot for its short burst damage which in my opinion is how autoloaders should be balanced, i agree with you that it is weaker than other tier x meds but not by a significant amount in my opinion BUT i dont think it should be buffed, i think other tanks should be toned down a bit, like the mediums with the armor profile of a heavy or the light tanks with a 1k dmg clip and 3k dpm that doesnt sacrifice anything for the short burst damage

[vapid island]

Yes, it's true that it has a main gun that deals 740 dmg in 2.4 seconds, but is this a gun worth getting in exchange for a hull that's one of the worst in tier 10?
To be honest, it doesn't have overwhelming firepower like the M6Y.
Even if you can get 3k DMG, it doesn't really change the fact that this tank is worse than other tanks, right?
740 DMG in 2.4 seconds isn't that impressive.
It has a gun that's almost identical to the Progetto 65.

[dreamy nymph]

if you are playing it right yes, i can avg 3k in it just like i can avg 3k in the leo, and the yoh is just a goofy 183 in a heavy body 740 dmg is a lot imo i may be biased as a leo enjoyer i think theres a lot of high alpha guns in the game and 740 is nearing nuking someones game, especially on a medium

[vapid island]

Do you think it makes sense to take such a huge risk with the poor performance of the MURAT chassis and then get compensated with the slightly improved main gun of the progetto 65?
Especially when using PRAMMO, the main gun's shortcomings become more prominent.
it just 0.1s more faster and do 20 more DMG
and actually gunhandling and total clip size is more worse man

[dreamy nymph]

yes, the way i play it i just sorta float around nuking people for 740

[fallow eagle]

Murat is fun to play but need some kind of buff to keep up with other meds like alpha or mobility

[heady dawn]

Some tier 8 Td's (Especially the armored ones) need a HP buff.

It's criminal that some share nearly the same amount of HP of that of a Nashorn or an AT-8, a tier 6 TD

[vapid island]

It's not a perfect upgrade to the progetto 65 gun, and there are parts where its performance is worse. But isn't this just your personal and subjective opinion?
By your logic, if you drive a tier 10 medium tank with abysmal performance and achieve an average of 3k, it becomes a tank that doesn't need buffs.
@dreamy nymph
You agree that the actual hull performance is one of the worst among Tier 10 mediums, and if the main gun is similar to the Progetto 65, then it's obvious that it's a problematic tank, right?
You're just overestimating Murat because he's only 2 shells

So, if you want to play without getting hit, camouflage rate is basically important, but the camouflage rate of the Murat itself is on the bad side among the 10-tier mediums.

No, I used to blitz a lot, too.

But now I've moved on to WoT.

The problem is that while other tanks attack enemy spots undetected, this one is visible, so it takes on a greater risk than other tanks.

But it doesn't have good hull armor to compensate for that, does it?
I mean, it's worse than the Leopard, which is notorious for its poor camouflage.
The fact that it takes more risk than other tier 10 mediums means that it has performance issues.

[dreamy nymph]

it could be, but how about we put it to the test, today ive played 100 games in the leo going 70% wr with 3100 avg, tmrw ill play 20 games in the murat and see how i perform in comparison my point is that if i perform the same as i do in a tank that is very strong it doesnt need a buff and youre also ignoring that i think some tanks need nerfs, also then hull performance doesnt matter if you dont get shot, which you should be playing for life in a tank with no armor, leopard hull has less armor with less gun depression, its just not as tall because it has only 2.4 second clip time it takes less rosk as it does more dmg with less time exposed

[vapid island]

Farming while being spotted by taking a good position is basic, but this does not show the tank's performance.
It just shows the difference in performance based on individual skill.
And to gain an advantage over other clip-loading tanks with a 2-shell gun, you need a gun like the M6Y's 120mm or WoT's VZ55.

Progetto also applies 700dmg in 2.5 seconds and 1050dmg if you have time.
Doesn't the fact that there isn't much difference from progetto and murat show that there are many performance issues?
Even the progetto has overwhelming accuracy and gun handling, so it doesn't only have disadvantages.

It would be enough to simply make the angle of depression 12 degrees or the damage 400.
or increse DPM

[dreamy nymph]

well as i said before the leo performs poorly among low skill layers too, doesnt mean its bad. i dont think it should have a gun like the yohs cause its kinda cringe, i dont think we need more 900 dmg in 2 seconds. i think if the murat were to be buffed a great thing would be adaptive concealment, not changing the tank, reverse track is kinda bad, \i think the gun is amazing and as someone who spams leo i dont think the accuracy on the murat is bad, just aim in. the gun is strong enough so we dont need to buff it, buff something else, if the hull is bad then a great thing would be making it easier to not get shot, adaptive concealment does that i was talking about murats gun and brought up leo in comparison thats mb i shouldve clarified

[vapid island]

I'm talking about murat now, not leo

Yeah, the basic thing is to do it without getting hit.
But the problem is that the play itself is much riskier than other tier 10 mediums.
The problem is that the risk is huge, but the return is not great compared to the risk.
It doesn't make sense that the return value has only slightly better firepower than the progetto 65.
In fact, the Murat did not have ACTUALL the firepower advantage because the Progetto had higher DPM and clip potential.
The problem is that it has similar firepower to other tier 10 clip mediums?
It only takes 2.4 seconds to load 740dmg, but other clip mediums have higher DPM.
Even the instantaneous firepower doesn't make much of a difference.
@dreamy nymph

[dreamy nymph]

@vapid island read again we may just have to agree to disagree, i think being able to pop out, do 740, and then pop back in a mobile tank is plenty powerful, i think that tanks with clips should sacrifice more for that short burst and that the murat does that well making it balanced and possibly making many other clippers unbalanced, i do think adaptive would be a good addition as i think its slightly underpowered just not to the extent you think. i might be biased here as i have many games in tanks with not a lot of armor but i think it performs great, that is all i have to say as i am going to sleep, have a goodnight @vapid island

[frank grail]

Can everyone agree that the maus needs a turret armor buff at least? Virtually every t10 can pen its cheeks and it's supposed to be like the most heavy armored tank of all time

[cinder shard]

To be fair, there are ways to make it extremely effective (square in the second picture as cover).
The whole thing that caused the tank to feel a bit weaker than before were the equipment changes, but it still works fine.

[frank grail]

Is that just a diagram of sidescraping? That doesn’t change the fact that the turret is very weak

[cinder shard]

Basically what you are supposed to do with the tank to make the armor work.
Same with stuff like the E100.
To be fair, the armor of nearly every tank is weak if you don't use it right.
Playing a Maus without angling (hull and turret) and complaining that it's too weak is basically like playing a Kranvagn on flat ground and complaining that the hull-armor doesn't work.

[frank grail]

Okay, but the e100 is much better armored, and plenty of tanks are good at sidescraping. The problem is that the maus is quite literally the most heavily armored tank EVER BUILT. And its turret is very easily penned by every t10 in the game, I feel like nothing fixes that glaring contradiction besides buffing the armor, the entire line is marketed as an extremely heavy armored extremely slow style

[opal nacelle]

Hello👋 On my opinion for Wz-114 It is necessary give the mechanic combat stabilization

[cinder shard]

And it has extremely good armor, when you use it correctly.
A tank that's just impenetrable or extremely hard to penetrate without the need to do anything isn't something that the game needs.
Why play any other tank when you can just hold W and win every battle because nobody can damage you?
On top I really wouldn't call the E100 much better armored, it trades all around armor for alpha (15cm) or dpm (12.8cm) and mobility.
The E100 always has the little corner-weakspot and the upper deck is a weakspot to any tanks that can shoot down at it.
At best, the upper plate of the Maus (and possibly the turret cheeks) could get a minimal buff in the armor department, to make the playstyle a tiny bit easier to utilize and compensate a bit for the equipment-changes.

[frank grail]

I don’t want impenetrable, tbh I want 10 mm on the maus turret to take it from 240 to 250, from looking at other t10s that takes it from 80% able to easily pen it to like 40 to 50

[cinder shard]

I mean, that sounds pretty reasonable.
I felt like this comment implied that you had a bigger buff in mind, but I'd fully agree with a little one

[frank grail]

Yeah, I could’ve worded that better I was trying to emphasize what the tank is irl and is marketed as vs the reality of playing it. I’m totally fine with TDs and stronger guns penning the cheek, but so many tanks is disheartening. So a 10-15 mm turret buff would be awesome

[shy isle]

What armor inspector app/website is that?(Sorry for disturbing). Thanks

[cinder shard]

No worries =)
BlitzKit

[radiant ermine]

Is just me or is the camo ratings on TD way too high. I play APAC and holy sweet high they just dominate. Doesn't help that a lot of the HT are mid or meh
I wish we had 13 sec 60TP back

[terse beacon]

Maus armour is less about being impenetrable 😅 it's moreso about forcing people to fire prammo at least in terms of this game. So it's a lot more about its hp advantage than actual armour

[clear shuttle]

funny thing is nobody can seem to pen the maus if you angle and wiggle

[scenic hazel]

i think medium and light tanks shouldnt be able to pen the maus frontally

[frank grail]

At least, I actually haven't found a single t10 that's not a light tank that can't pen the maus cheeks looking at all these guns

[vestal ocean]

Buff my type 71 it is only scare when everyone use heat 😭

[terse beacon]

Uhh that would be way too much armour especially with how much hp maus has as well as the armour getting better with angling haha 😅

If you want to buff something on maus then buff the gun handling/pen instead, armour buffs are unnecessary imo

[uneven pike]

I know most people will just sell the tank, but it would be nice if Sherman Easy 8 has 160/120/200 alpha with 12 degree of gun dep

[fallow eagle]

<@&481447501690568709>

[frank grail]

The e100 exists and people deal with it, a dozen other hull down tanks exist, 240 is insanely low for the maus's flat turret, just buff it to 250 or 255

[robust root]

BUFF. THE. LION’S. MOBILITY.

[terse beacon]

Maus is not a hulldown tank so I'm not sure how that is relevant and e100 has a much worse armour profile than maus as well as angling having less of an impact on the effectiveness, again the point of maus armour is to force people to fire prammo not bounce everything that is shot at it 😅

[frank grail]

Absolutely nobody needs to fire prammo at the maus the turret has big flat 250 cheek sections, every single t10 tank in the game except for a couple of lights can pen that with standard ammo, that's not defendable for the most heavily armored tank ever built

[terse beacon]

Uh the tank is literally centred around angling haha that's the whole point... 😅 you're not supposed to be facing things flat on in the first place so yes almost every tier 10 that isn't a high pen td will need to fire prammo.

Also the cheeks are more like 260mm thick flat on, ignore those in game armour stats they're not that useful

[dreamy nymph]

buff its upperplat, thats what needs a buff. that should not be pennable

[frank grail]

You have to aim at people to fire m8, it's not super simple angling a turret as it is to angle the body, Im newer to t10 I only own a few but I've not had trouble penning a maus as much as I do the e100, you definitely do not need to be a high pen td to not fire prammo

[terse beacon]

Which is why you aim at them while they're on a reload haha... and if really necessary you can trade because you have so much hp at your disposal 😅

Also this is what the highest standard pen heavy sees vs an angled maus, so I'm not sure where you got the last part from haha😄. Maus armour does the job it's supposed to, like I said before imo if you want to buff it then you should change some of the gun stats mainly accuracy and pen with minor buffs

[frank grail]

That's a very steep angle that doesn't represent how battles play out, and the buff you want isn't really the spirit of what the maus even is, it's the most heavily armored tank of all time, that's why I went down the line, not for the gun

[terse beacon]

Except that's not how it is in this game haha it is designed to be a damage sponge, not an impenetrable wall, and I'm not sure what you mean that is not a steep angle at all, it is also extremely easy to replicate within battles, this is how maus is supposed to be played after all..

[frank grail]

Well nobody I've encountered plays it like this, because I've never needed prammo to pen maus

[terse beacon]

Yeah but that's just anecdotal evidence haha, using the same logic I could say something like leopard 1 sucks because everyone I see using it are playing it like a brawling medium 😅

[tepid forum]

Don't join this server!

[runic oasis]

Honestly alot of heavies don't have to look twice while using prammo
The maus does have dpm but sacrifices too much for that unless armor
Giving it more speed will be kinda wierd as it's a super heavy
So either give it like 520 alpha or reduce the reload to give it way more dpm
Or give the turret 25 mm more armor and the lower plate 15 mm more
This way it's atleast some what balanced
If you want a more interesting playstyle give it 3.5k base hp
Acting like a punching bag for the enemy
Giving your team time to flank or rush

[cinder shard]

<@&481447501690568709>

[tepid warren]

When will this high pen meta end? So many tanks I have are now obsolete because their armour is pretty much useless

[ivory quiver]

Examples? We can have a better discussion that way imo

[cursive minnow]

I bet 3 nickels they’ll say the maus

[nocturne mauve]

Heavies do not need more buffs, heavy players got lazy and rely on their hp instead of angling

[wary saddle]

no armor
no good

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[formal timber]

bro please buff the T-54 first prototipe, it was horrible tank, the gun was bad, the engine was worst, and the armor (i don't need to explain it anymore)

[full cedar]

can you buff Sheridan's gun please, or at once just let us use the 105 mm gun that it SHOULD ALWAYS have? Everytime I try to touch the tank it's just disgusting, terrible penetration (in the second pic, in that angle there is no way the E6 side will be that red already, knowing that this tank is known for not having a really strong hull armor), and having APCR just makes it even worse, it's accuracy is also the worst comparing it to many tank destroyers, so if it is possible consider this in a future update

@vapid island yes I already know that, but as I said, it really needs some changes, 3 of my shots bouncing in it its just not possible

[vapid island]

This tank is ideal for flanking, it has excellent mobility and camouflage.
then why don't you use prammo

[cursive minnow]

Why are you in a light tank facing a heavy tank frontally

[full cedar]

watch the minimap, cant have idea he would be there

[vapid island]

it's your skill problem man... why you fight with enemy HT frontly?
and you just use apcr not a HEAT
i'm watching your minimap
why you get position there?
YES that's not a reason why sheri needs buff
and why you compare about sheri's 150mm gun to TDs?
this gun is not for snipe at the long range
it's good for shoot and run
@full cedar

[full cedar]

again, if you dont know how the game went stop talking about that, thats not what we are discussing

Dont expect me to guess the E6 would be there the whole time

[dreamy nymph]

just aim

[cursive minnow]

Maybe should do a light tank role of spotting before anything. I have no issue with the Sheridan at all

[full cedar]

I already know it's not for long distances, and I'm comparing it to TDs because they mostly have derp guns, as well as there aren't TDs for sniping, like JgE100, E4, E3, Obj263 (not derp but terrible accuracy) and 268, and comparing them to Sheridan and at the time of aiming, Sheridan feels worse than all of them. Even at that distance against the E6, the circle was still too big to aim and shoot properly, yet my shots will keep going to places I'm not aiming to or simply won't do any damage (out of 4 shots only 1 penetrated, and that was HEAT)
If I was using a TD with the standard shell the story would be completely different
All I'm asking to WG is to give us the option to use the 105 mm gun to have better accuracy and penetration in the standard shell

[vapid island]

It's just a regular WoT. If you get RNG worse, it's like that, lol.

[graceful bramble]

pls buff t57 its armor is too bad for a heavy tank

[dreamy nymph]

t57 is balanced it has a 1200 dmg clip in 5 secs with good pen, dont poke stupidly and its a good tank, many heavies dont have the best armor

[wary saddle]

How is this terrible penentration, this is literally standard

[full cedar]

bro its one of the tier X LTs with the worst pen in the standard shell, and also include not being accurate, you cant fight well like that all the time

[fallow eagle]

It's a 152mm gun that deals 570 alpha dmg
That's literally more than all meds, most heavies and few tds like Xm and 263
It doesn't need a buff,use cali and heat if you're not able to pen your target reliably
At the end of the day it is a light tank,its not meant to stay in front of any tank, take its time to aim and go head to head with armored tanks

[full cedar]

then simply put the 105mm gun in the tank

[wicked quest]

Sheridan has the worst standard pen at T10 without CS it’s like 230 the APCR nerfs it to 225, it’s HEAT is the highest out of any flanker

[wary saddle]

💀

[low wolf]

just play another tank lol

[sour gale]

We need to buff Churchill GC

[ember idol]

If only there's a reliable Western bloc single shot 105mm light tank in tier 10 ;-;

[granite valve]

Some tanks shouldn't play on some maps or atleast with specific teams compositions, thats all i lowkey can say bout wotb

[vapid island]

they already give 105mm's pen and 152mm's alpha
it way much better then PC WoT's sheri

[worldly quartz]

Vk 72.01k buff idea
Currently it’s way worse than 60tp imo
Base Health increase to 2650
Remove sandbag

[lament lion]

im not saying ur bad or u needed to know he was there but in sheri i do 3-7-4k damage avarage on a good day so its a great tank in my opinion but it could get a small buff to standard pen

from 247 avarage to 255 avarage

[frank grail]

25 mm is crazy for the turret I think 10 to 15 is perfect, but as I've learned more i think the front plate needs a buff more than the turret, I mean, it's the MAUS, they should make that front plate impenetrable

[frank grail]

Is is-4 decent in y'all eyes

[muted rampart]

Pretty mid, nowhere near it's peak, but not as bad as it was

[muted rampart]

Yeah, overbuff more tanks instead of getting rid of the root of the problem.

Calibrates shells equipment needs to be removed, otherwise armor/pen balance will never be restored.

Heavies should never have access to more than 340 pen.

[scarlet yarrow]

It's a fairly normal thing for me to see, believe it or not

[dense jasper]

xD how is the pen so terrible

[formal timber]

well, i think i have idea for other tank that could be added as a collector or premium tank, tier 7-8 seems to be it

[dense jasper]

it'd be nice to see 705a line in blitz and not as a collector like type 5

[ember idol]

They really butchered the 20-pdr pen just to make it fit tier 6 huh 💀

[hollow pelican]

I think that the KV 2 needs to one shot any tank trust, tier 10? One shot

[formal timber]

how about this tank as a collector or premium tank with emergency track mechanic and tier 8 or 9 seems pretty fit on it

[rocky kindle]

right

[idle fern]

Give Skoda t56 double shell 410 intra clip 5 sec

[meager dawn]

mm no

[lethal vessel]

You should use Tungsten shells if you cant pen.

[rapid widget]

They need to buff the RHM PWZ,s pen. Every game i play im atleast bouncing 10 of my shots on the side of a tank. No its not a skill issue cause me and my mates have tested this out all individually.

[remote oriole]

<@&481447501690568709>

[primal yacht]

✅ uuarmst was banned.

[full cedar]

Sheridan doesn't have tungsten bro

[muted rampart]

This is sadly a rather large skill issue

[jade cargo]

✅ mr_dmj08 was banned.

[severe prairie]

Makes sense

[tepid dagger]

Make IS 7 1 shot everything

[vapid island]

buff murat and minotauro

[full cedar]

no

[vapid island]

I said it again
murat's 2.4s 740 dmg is not a good advantage there are so many good t10 autoloader tanks and this gun spec didn't give huge differences
at least buff more return value such as intra clip load time, increase DPM
or give more gun depression

Give reticle calibration and shell reload boost consumes will be good too

[mental mesa]

Bro nerf the Erich Concept 1. What were you guys thinking? It’s like a 2 shot Sheri fighting T8s. It’s fully ruining T8

[full cedar]

yeah, cancel the buff, just do it like bz176

[worldly quartz]

💀

[umbral rune]

Pls buff char futur 4

[pure laurel]

Hey devs I have reasonable points to buff bofors tornvagn (tier 8 swedish heavy tank)
Firstly it has less dpm, mediocre mobility, average gun,bad hull armor,no great cumsumables (tungsten or advanced engine booster),and lastly apcr as gold ammo .
Changes that can be made
Add tungsten (like 53tp)or combat stabilization,make heat gold ammo and slightly improve mobility so it can easily compete with Emil 1 or 1951,and 53tp.

[pure laurel]

@brisk cedar ,pls consider buffing bofors tornvagn..

[formal timber]

@brisk cedar Please bring back the old tech tree, it will make old player back + it will make the matchmaking on low tier more faster

[unique scaffold]

I need derp gun T82

[limpid seal]

Object 430u line needs to be released at some point it feels odd not to have it ingame when it has been many years since that line came out for wot pc. It is only 3-4 tanks max after all.

[muted rampart]

This is sadly not happening. Although Legacy tier system proposed by reforged seem to be a decent compromise if it is followed up by rebalance.

Ah, and also don't ping devs.

[formal timber]

ah, i don't know it, i just follow the person above me

[idle fern]

Bro torvagn don't need buff breh

[stuck spade]

stop asking to make this thing even stronger, you dont know how rat sheridan is, your shots bouncing? keep aiming, terrible penetration? bro you're using a light tank with a dmg of a td and you want it to have superb pen?what are we doing. You know what your tank is and its gun in which is quite derpy. You're comparing a derpy light tank to a tank destroyers? why dont you compare it to its own class.

[vestal ocean]

Buff type 71 reloading time or front armor plzz, everyone just change premo and auto pen frontaly :((

[quick lichen]

Skill issue for sure

[unique scaffold]

Remember, this is 'light' tank with 152mm gun. Also many light tank has bad penatration, it can be cover with speed, high spot range, camouflage.
(Also Sheridan has good penetration already lol) that's why lts have bad penatration, this ss look like skill issue to me.

[pure laurel]

No ,it indeed requires a buff.
53tp has 420 alpha per shot smth and has tungsten whilst tornvagn doesn't.
Tornvagn only advantage is it's turret armor and -8 degres of gun depression whilst Emil tanks have both armor,dpm and gun depression.

[muted rampart]

Just nerf the 53TP.

It's 53TP that stomps the entire tier for years, not the Tornvagn being bad.

Don't compare a well balanced vehicle to an obviously overpowered one. Compare it to other well balanced vehicles like american T34, M6A2E1 EXP or TNH

[pure laurel]

You do realize collector (that cost money) are bad compared to a tech tree tank is weird?.

[muted rampart]

No, it's not weird. Paid tanks aren't meant to be better just because you pay for them. That would be Pay To Win. And again, if you simply nerf the 53TP problem is solved.

[idle fern]

Tornvagn have 10 gun de

[pure laurel]

And yeah then also nerf the t77.(Broken tank)
I am just asking to give heat as prammo(2 shells as apcr is so bad)and give it combat stabilization.if not tungsten.
(Btw why replying time is 5 minutes here???)

[muted rampart]

Yeah, i can agree on nerfing T77. It's easily a Top 3 T8 heavy tank.

But buffing tornvagn in any way, even just by adding mechanics is not necessary. It is a balanced vehicle.

Also, the replying time used to be 10 minutes, it's already good that they reduced it. Back some time ago this channel used to be very active, so slowmode was necessary to prevent flood.

[idle fern]

I think give it heat its good enough

[pure laurel]

Fr.
@idle fern , heat will do tho the apcr shell is so tricky to pen when an enemy tank is side scrapping.

[idle fern]

The t77 have lower pen smasher

Than* bruh 5min for 1 message is frickin anoying

[past vale]

Nerf the Koncept, what's this abomination.

[muted rampart]

It's not overpowered tho?

Sure it has high alpha, but firepower wise it's not any better than other T9 autoloaders. It's just pretty unique in itself, but it's not a game breaking vehicle

1000 in 5 seconds is only slightly above average for a T9 and at the same time it pays for it with a very lenghty main reload.

[past vale]

Bro can't be serious lmao

[muted rampart]

Then prove why is it overpowered according to you?

I get it can be annoying to eat 1000 damage in short time span, but it's not anything unheard of for T9.

Don't get me wrong, it is a good tank, but it's far from overpowered. It doesn't single handedly fold teams like 752 could at it's peak

[past vale]

I don't need to prove anything, wait for the new set of server stats to drop, that thing will have Obj. 752 levels of winrate and DPB.

Plenty of good, mediocre and bad players agree that the tank became the OP wallet-warrior bait of 2025.

[muted rampart]

We will see then. I can guarantee that it will be nowhere near 752.

Medium tanks by design always fall short of heavies by these metrics in server stats due to many factors.

[past vale]

Oh wait, to prove my wallet-warrior point, it sold out in 12 mins in EU, no worse blind than the one that does not want to see.

Your second point gets neutralized by relative winrate on 55-65% and +65% wr players, learn to read stats. Casual-timmy losing on a E-50M doesn't make it balanced.

[dreamy nymph]

The FV215b 183 Is a Problem in Blitz And It’s Time for Wargaming to Address It. The FV215b 183 continues to be one of the most game-warping, frustrating, and poorly balanced tanks in World of Tanks Blitz and despite overwhelming evidence, it remains untouched.

Here’s why this tank needs to be reworked or severely nerfed, regardless of its popularity:

1. Massive Alpha in a Small-Team Format

1300+ HESH shots in a 7v7 format aren’t just unfair, they're game-breaking. A single pen can cripple or delete a top-tier tank, flipping an entire flank. It doesn’t just ruin one player’s game, it often ruins the team’s chances of winning.

2. It’s Accuracy is Too Good

Its dispersion is bad, but it's not horrendous, and with its extreme penetration values it's not hard to hit high damage shots. On Blitz’s small maps, long-range dispersion barely matters. You don’t need sniper precision, just general aim and a bit of RNG. Sitting still in a bush or pre-aiming lanes makes it oddly reliable.

3. It Has Surprisingly Good Camo

It can be sitting right in front of you unspotted because it's a TD. You often have no idea where it is, and pushing forward blindly risks instant death. That makes it not just powerful but oppressively unpredictable.

[half linden]

It Rewards Low-Skill Play

It takes very little mechanical skill to do well in it: Just land 2 good HESH shots, and you're already outperforming average players in damage. You don’t need mobility, game sense, or precision just sit, wait, and click. This makes the tank incredibly attractive to low-skill players, who can ruin games simply by YOLOing and trading 1300 for their life. And yes, that's often more frustrating than facing a skilled player who is oftentimes more predictable.

It Encourages Passive, Toxic Gameplay

The threat of a 183 makes teams too scared to push. It encourages camping, ambush play, and waiting for enemies to overextend—not engaging, dynamic gameplay. On maps like Dead Rail or Malinovka, entire matches become standoffs, just because there's a 183 alive. The Bigger Problem: Wargaming Won’t Touch It. Why? Because it’s too popular. It’s one of the most-played tanks in Tier X—because it’s easy, powerful, and satisfying for casual players. But this popularity doesn’t make it balanced. It just makes Wargaming afraid to upset a large player base.

Suggested Changes (That Still Keep It Unique)

If Wargaming doesn’t want to remove it, they could. Lower HESH alpha to 1100. Reduce premium HESH penetration so it can’t front-pen heavies/mediums reliably. Increase reload to 24–26 seconds. Add camo nerfs to make it more spot-able at range. Give aim time or bloom penalties so it's less forgiving when snap shooting or peeking

Final Thoughts
The 183 is not just overpowered, it's a tank that undermines Blitz’s core gameplay. It promotes passivity, rewards poor decision-making, and makes matches unfun for players who want fair, skill-based combat. It’s time for Wargaming to stop protecting it because of its popularity and start balancing it properly.

[wide sable]

I’m so tired of hearing people complain about the 183. It’s not that big of a deal. It’s always a pleb who made a mistake and got caught in the open and HESHed in the side and lost a good chunk of HP. Just avoid it bruh. The idea of youu can just camp and do well, is wrong. If the 183 is camping all game, you can play the rest of the map and just the avoid the lane the 183 is looking down and you’re perfectly safe.

[wicked quest]

You’ll always get hit by it no matter what
This is a clown response

[muted rampart]

Well WG instead of adressing is going on and adding another 183 in the form of BZT

[abstract fern]

I finished all tank tree lines some time ago and still receive a lot certs for research. Can we have any compensation for this? It's really unfair... What am I suppose to do with those certs?

[dreamy nymph]

the fact that you said this means you didnt even read what i said

[dreamy nymph]

wrong channel but also use them on the next line they put out?

i fail to understand the point of this replay

[full cedar]

bro what don't you understand of JUST GIVE IT THE 105MM GUN? Just because there isn't much you can do with the derp gun if you ever have to do 1vs1, not buff the 152mm one, jesus

You keep talking about the 152mm like nonsense. T92E1 already has a 105 mm and the tank itself with the 152mm is more annoying than the Sheridan, why would it be hard to also give the gun to the Sheridan?

[wraith pulsar]

Hi, its sure the wrong channel but no other channel is appropriated as this one so
Fix this WG pls its a 4k+gold legendary camo ( not running mods)
Playing on Android, good device. Redownloading or restarting the game doesnt change anything

[twin egret]

lol
wth is that bug

[modern heart]

send a support ticket, wont find any resolution here

[tranquil willow]

When are you people gonna fix the Caliban?

[full cedar]

there is nothing wrong with it?

[primal yacht]

✅ igor065272 has been warned.

[polar agate]

Hi guys

[robust root]

uh. so nerf the Erich clipper gun. that is quite literally the most OP crap in T9 since..... ever.

[dreamy nymph]

its basically a tier x now

[robust root]

it's overpowered. T8s can't even pretend to compete.
the 752 is insanely strong against T8s and it's slow, and has a less dmg clip.
the Erich is insanely mobile and is basically a 4005 with 2 less shells and 100 more dmg per shot. at t9

[full cedar]

right, simply a better T92E1

[dreamy nymph]

i double shot t92e1, the t92 is already strong, doubling its firepower is insane

[stuck spade]

There isn't much you can't do? Bro you're just terrible at the tank lmao, also who uses Sheridan to 1 v 1 anything😭. The tank is not meant for 1 v 1 lol, the tank is fine as it is, if you can't handle it then go play sum else

[full cedar]

oh yeah dont tell me u never had 1v1 fights when its 6 - 6, probably u dont even survive during and till the end of the battle, this kind of situations always happens

[cursive minnow]

What would you do if you had a light tank and you know it doesn’t have much pen but has a big alpha and a long reload? 🤔 maybe poke then shoot and hide

[stuck spade]

do i have to tell you everything? its a 1 v 1 situation? then use your speed and camo rating, oh its a mt against lt? then preserve your hp from the start so u can increase your chances. "Probably" nawp most of the time I survive or even if so die I deal a huge chunk of damage, how about you adjust to the tank and come up with ways to alleviate these "issues" than complaining to adjust the tank for you.

[twin egret]

it has like 350mm heat pen, lol

[wraith pulsar]

There are tickets for this? Ok
Thx

[abstract fern]

I mean the 1h one. I can literally do nothing with it. Sorry I posted here, I couldn't find better channel, but now I can see a better one 😦

[worldly quartz]

so why hasn’t the 114 sp2 being buffed yet currently it is the worst heavy in the game as nothing stands out from the tank and whatever its strong point is done by better tank

comparing it to 60tp
its has worse turret armor(bigger cupola and way less thicker and can be penned by high pen premium or calibrated heavies)
worse hull armor(60tp upper plate is a bounce to all standard round and medium premium round and some heavies premium round and way smaller lower plate)
has ap which is better than 60tp but no tungsten
its 8km slower(why js it slower than 60tp that can go 40km/h with gear oil??)
why would u keep this in ur garage i sold like in an hour after unboxing it

[cinder shard]

<@&481447501690568709>

[surreal urchin]

What no one seems to understand is how disrespected the German tank tree is. The Tiger II had a 88mm gun effective at 2500 meters, and optics years ahead of any other tank until the late 50's. From tier 5 on all German tanks are on the wrong tier, the M4A3E8 was a sorry attempt to handle the Tiger 1, yet a tier lower than the Tiger. There was a reason your grandad feared the Panzers when riding a Sherman.

[muted rampart]

This game isn't, never was and never will be historically accurate.

It wasn't even ever intended to be.

If you want historicall accuracy, go play war thunder. Blitz is an arcade game.

[wicked quest]

? 1 tigers optics weren’t all that special the in game version has a barrel length it never mounted,
2 Sherman E8 was a stopgap that was delayed T29 and M26 were the real answer to kill tigers and unsurprisingly it struggled against them.
3
Tiger used to have a historical armor figure in the past but it was so bad they buffed it years ago
It’s almost 2x as thick as it was in life

[dreamy nymph]

it doesnt matter, you have enough of the others

[vivid swift]

Is there any way of Buffing up the IS-4 to have slightly better Alpha Armor and DPM increased to around 525?

[meager dawn]

i think is4 does need a buff but maybe not that much of one

[timid yew]

[undone ledge]

Can u buff maus

[vivid swift]

It would be super great if they would buff the IS-4. Since it's known to be the Past Best Heavy Tank in the game, but got over topped by other tanks, at last Slightly more Pen to fight off the Maus, IS-7 and E-100 slightly better in a stand off, with a little damage boost? It would request an IS-7 Buff as well, making it equal to the IS-4 in damage and Pen, but slightly better Armor and worser aiming ratio that IS-4.

I've noticed that the Developers had Buffed German tanks quite allot most likely, what about Russian tanks? At last the Heavy Tanks to get a few buffs to stand up agaist German or American Tanks at long and close combant distances.

[deft veldt]

I would like to propose a balance adjustment for the FV215b (183), specifically increasing the alpha damage of its HESH shell from 1160 to 1370. Currently, the vehicle feels underwhelming compared to other tier X tank destroyers. Its long reload time, poor gun handling, and unreliable HESH penetration make it highly situational and difficult to use effectively. Raising the HESH alpha to 1370 would better support the tank’s intended role as a high-risk, high-reward platform. This change would not make the vehicle overpowered but would help restore its original identity as a one-shot threat capable of punishing enemy mistakes. In comparison to other tank destroyers such as the T110E3 or Jagdpanzer E100, the FV215b (183) lacks both consistency and overall combat effectiveness. Increasing its HESH alpha would allow the tank to feel more impactful and distinct without disrupting game balance. Additionally, having only 1160 damage on a HESH shell is somewhat laughable considering that, historically, the FV215b (183)'s HESH round contained around 22 kilograms of TNT. Thank you for considering this proposal.

[cursive minnow]

💀

[vivid swift]

That would be because of the Masive Damage it posseses. As for the IS-4, it has slight armor, with at tier 9, the IS-4 is most likely able to be hitted from the front by light tanks and mediums. Let along that it's an Russian Heavy tank, with Poor Damage and Medium Heavy Armor. Witch i think that the tank would do well to slow down on engine power, for better Alpha armor and DPM.

[deft veldt]

The reason I proposed increasing the HESH alpha to 1370 is not to make the FV215b (183) overpowered, but to restore its identity and make it relevant again.

Right now, the tank suffers from extremely long reload, poor gun handling, weak armor, and inconsistent HESH penetration. For a vehicle that’s meant to be a high-risk, high-reward glass cannon, the reward simply doesn’t match the risk anymore.

Other tier X TDs offer much more consistency and survivability — the T110E3 has armor and solid DPM, the Jagdpanzer E100 has alpha and durability. The 183, on the other hand, has none of those advantages and can’t even reliably one-shot mediums or lightly armored tanks anymore.

Buffing HESH alpha to 1370 wouldn’t break game balance, but it would give the tank a proper role again: punishing mistakes and making enemies respect its presence.

And historically speaking, the real-life HESH round carried nearly 22 kg of explosive filler — the current 1160 alpha is simply too low to represent that kind of power in-game.

[tame kayak]

they should nerf the 183's hesh pen and they should remove the black hole that is the gun mantlet

[cursive minnow]

They should make it unplayable

[deft veldt]

Wanting a tank to be unplayable isn’t balance — it’s bias.

The FV215b (183) already struggles in today’s meta. It has one job: to deal punishing alpha in rare, risky opportunities. Removing even that would make the tank irrelevant.

Good balance is about making every vehicle viable and distinct, not deleting them because some people dislike them.So your idea of balance is to delete a tank just because you don’t like it? That says more about you than the 183.

[cursive minnow]

Good make it struggle more

[deft veldt]

Thanks for proving my point — this isn’t about balance for you, it’s just personal bias. No point arguing with someone who wants a tank to "struggle more" for fun.

[wicked quest]

Play something respectable maybe

[robust root]

alright. Full hp ammo racks need to go.
It's beyond stupid how in an already fast paced game the tide can instantly get changed by luck, not skill, pure luck.

change ammo racks so that at above 50% hp you don't instantly frickn die.

If the rack is hit with enough damage to break it while above 50% hp:
hit tank instantly goes on reload with a injured gunner and damaged rack. If that's not punishing enough, set the tank on fire too. Rack should be on 1 hp, allowing a true rack to be followed up on if the tank is now below 50% hp.

[cursive minnow]

Tbf you need to know where to aim at in a tank to ammorack it

[uneven turtle]

But the 183 can already punish heavily??

A regular round does 1/2 of a LT/MT hp

And 1/3 of the average heavy hp

Swapping over to HESH,
If penned, it deals 2/3 of a Lt/mt hp on average
And 3/7 of the typical super ht hp
And 1/2 of a non super heavy hp

And to say it’s gun is highly inaccurate, that’s half true. Refined gun having gotten a buff quite a while ago allows 183 to be deceptively precise with its gun

And its mere presence in the game is already respected due to the fact that when a 183 stays unspotted, gameplay is extremely passive from the opposing team

No tank should be able to one shot a full hp tank, unless it’s an ammorack but then the 183 already has the highest module damage per shot so it has the added benefit of having the highest chance to blow someone’s ammorack

[wary saddle]

definitely a ragebait

[hollow frigate]

Yeah. Also remove the black hole on the IS-3 & 7

[meager dawn]

<@&481447501690568709>

[uneven turtle]

What black hole

[hollow frigate]

On the side of both tanks. There is a wedge like this, <>, of spaced armor. 90% of the time, whether you aim or not, the spaced armor will eat your shell.

Hey Mods why is there a 5 minute slow chat?

[uneven turtle]

90% = a clear exaggeration which means you have a bias against it

I haven’t had a moment when I failed to penetrate the side of the is 7/is3 in a while because aiming does help

Also 5 minute slow chat is here to prevent spam since balance arguments can get a little heated

Also spaced armor usually tends to be black holes when angled

[upper knot]

yep ☝️

[hollow frigate]

Yeah I know 90 is way too high.

I do like it, extra armor helps with side-scraping.

If you aim it's going in, like 80%. What I mean is that it's similar to the Sheridan. In the sense that, the Sheridan hitbox is small, but the big parts are all just 20mm spaced armor. Same principal applies, it just eats your round.

Sorry if this sounds repetitive.

[twin egret]

ngl spaced armor tends to help whoever is firing at you to pen, more often than not.

it only really helps if it's sufficiently thick enough, if the armor behind the plating is thick enough, or a combination of the two.

For some reason, whenever a shell pierces any form of spaced armor, specifically if it's an external module, the shell won't auto-ricochet through the entire duration of its path.

If it's just simply spaced armor, then the shell just goes through and does the same as previously mentioned, that is, of course, if the 3-caliber-rule check passes, otherwise the shell could auto-ricochet because of the spaced armor being sufficiently thick enough to stop the shell from simply overmatching it.

Best example of this is the 51mm spaced armor plates on the sides of the T95. You can shoot at them at the auto-ricochet angle, and the shell will bounce, unless your gun is 154mm in caliber at minimum.

The shell will go through, negating the auto-ricochet, all throughout the shell's path, even if the primary armor behind the spaced armor is sufficiently thick enough to warrant an auto-ricochet. The shell will go through, and will penetrate the side armor(if it has sufficient base penetration values).

[dreamy nymph]

this is the worst take ive heard, its already not good for the game and a actually strong tank, get out. buff maus armor or give it reactive

[pure laurel]

Actual tanks that need buffs are:-
Is-4
T-100-lt(310 alpha per shot compared to rhm panzerwagen,rhm has tungsten better gun depression and all types of mechanics except combat stabilization and extra track[whatever that is called])

[dreamy nymph]

what are yoiu saying, the t100 is very strong and the is4 is balanced

[pure laurel]

Is-4 balanced, don't give me shyt.
Is-4 is the weakest HT with no real advantages.wg thinks giving IS-4 advance engine consumables will make the tank good.
T-100-lt is only good when there is no terrain,and it carries less shell for its DPM.

[dreamy nymph]

weakest heavy tank? what about the strv k, also the is4 is a very mobile heavy tank with one of the strongest turrets in the game alongside super speed boost. the is4 has its advantages and is in no way shape or form weak. the t100 is an extremely strong tank and if youre saying that it needs a buff then thats just a skill issue and a take that many would deem bad

[pure laurel]

Skill issue?,Strv k has at least combat stabilization.
Is-4 is weak against vks
Maus
Is-7
Rinoceronte
Vz-55(not always)
Equal to Strv k(forgot about that tank).In t100-lt all I want is increase in alpha to 330 from 310

[dreamy nymph]

combat stabilization means nothing, it takes a good gun and turns it into a good gun in a different way. is4 is not weak to any of those? it has the heat pen to butter them all up and the mobility to outplay them

[terse cairn]

Nah the actual tanks that need buff are 260, t62a and 30b. T100 Lt is already a very strong tank. Regarding IS 4, wg should just bring back its old armour and hp while nerfing its mobility and dpm.

[deft veldt]

The reality is that most HESH shots hit for 1090–1160, and anything above 1200 already feels like a lucky high roll.

In fact, 1090 is one of the most common rolls, which is disappointing for a shell that’s supposed to be high risk, high reward.

And if the shot doesn’t pen — which is very likely due to spaced armor, tracks, turret rings, etc. — you often deal 400 damage or less, sometimes even 190–300, which is laughable for a tank that reloads every 20+ seconds.

HESH feels almost like an AP round, but far more situational and much less consistent.

On paper, it looks scary. But in actual gameplay, it’s unreliable, inconsistent, and rarely rewarding — especially when the tank has no armor and suffers heavily if the shot fails.

[meager dawn]

vro stop using chat gpt to write nonsense

[dreamy nymph]

this is just skill issue, youre rolling over 1000 damage which is absolutely insane when you can pen the FRONT of heavies if you aim and get a little bit of rng

[reef ivy]

I kinda wish there was a FV4005 with 2k alpha like in wot

[scenic hazel]

well be happy that its not even inaccurate with that alpha

[wary saddle]

ragebait:

[terse beacon]

Uhh haha😅 imo is4 is quite a good tank, weakest heavy tank is far from the truth imo. You're mobile with a really strong turret and nice gun after all, the hull also bounces more than people give it credit for 😄

[pure laurel]

Tbh is -4 is so weak in blitz campared to lesta.
Less Hp ,and it has 122mm gun with only 420 alpha per shot,whilst chimera (British tier 8) also has 122mm gun with 440 alpha.
Is -4 isn't bad but it's also should be buffed unlike adding rigged tanks(atac,fve)
That's why I prefer IS-7 over is-4 anyday.(No offense just genuine opinion)

[cinder shard]

The Chimera has a 127mm tbf

[terse beacon]

Uhh everything in blitz is weak compared to lesta haha seeing as lesta overbuffs everything 😅, the alpha is also fine on is4 because it has quite high dpm and actually more alpha than the tanks it's compared to like 260 for example

[cinder shard]

To be fair, I'd say the IS4 could use a little bit of love in terms of mobility and gun-handling. As it is right now, it isn't your typical heavily armored, slow heavy, more of a mobile versatile tank. I'd personally love to see something with a similar playstyle to the old Obj 260 again, that was really something unique and sort of fun to play.

[polar agate]

Hi 🤙

[glad flower]

Whats a rigged tank

[eternal vale]

Hi

[balmy veldt]

Agreed

[wet solstice]

I think the polish TDs should be balanced on the exact distance they are from the target. Instead of the 0-70m then 70-105m then 105-150m, so as in every meter counts, because let’s say you are 5 meters away from reaching your maximum damage potential but that 5 meters stopped you from dealing that maximum damage because it only filled 2 green bars and not all 3, but if it wasn’t based off 3 bars then a damage counter should shot above the range finder that changes depending on the exact range, like 1m=5 damage something like that, this way you aren’t missing out from that 5 meters distance stopping you, and yes I know 5 meter isn’t a lot but it would still be annoying

[remote rivet]

nerf fv215b 183. make it suffer.

[granite valve]

T-100 is OP as hell, Vickers light is the one who needs buff

[pure laurel]

I totally forgot about Vickers,vickers hesh damage should increase tho and t100lt is just fine ig after playing in it again today.It was hella fun did 4.8k damage on 4th game.(Played 7 games mostly averaging around 2.8k damage)

[full cedar]

Vickers is alright, the only thing that ruins it is the "HESH"

It shouldn't even have HESH that tank, it's simply trash, it doesn't work with it's playstyle

[heady dawn]

The turret nerf ruined the Vickers

[muted rampart]

Nah, it was good until they took HEAT away and gave it that laughable 300 alpha

[heady dawn]

It should've had enough turret armor to bounce from some mediums and lights when using its full gun depression, like 250-260mms thick.
It compensated for the armor by being the slowest light, now it doesnt even have that.

Then they took away its premium rounds like if it wasnt powercrept enough

[muted rampart]

Then it is no longer a light. Just give it something else

[heady dawn]

Just because its a light doesnt mean it cant have any armor. Wz-132-1 has more armor on the turret, it gets upto 400mm around certain spots, AND its so much faster than the Vickers.
Its clear that Vickers was balanced around it having some sort of turret armor, that being removed basically nullified the whole point of the tank.

[muted rampart]

<@&481447501690568709>

[heady dawn]

<@&481447501690568709>

[primal yacht]

✅ evgen3221 was banned.

[muted rampart]

Nah, vickers never needed the armor. Just running around and abusing 440 damage 120 pen HE was good enough.

I'd much rather have them balance it around being that quick little rat doing close to 500 if you are unaware, but having normal MT damage otherwise

[dreamy nymph]

❤️

[lusty ocean]

This tank just looks like a worse 113G FT, like why would you ever play this over it.

[cursive minnow]

Have you played it?

[lusty ocean]

It doesn’t matter I’m looking at the stats

[cursive minnow]

💀 such an insightful tester

[lusty ocean]

?

I’m just saying this tank doesn’t look very good rn by what I’m seeing

[muted rampart]

It is good tho, sure a bit situational, but in right scenario it will absolutely shred

[lusty ocean]

It’s gun can’t hit anything sometimes

[muted rampart]

You have no equipment...

0.36 base isn't bad accuracy at all

[lusty ocean]

I have it fully equipped

[cursive minnow]

It doesn’t look like it in the ss plus the main point is to frontline I doubt your not hitting shots close range

[muted rampart]

You aren't suposed to ever fight beyond 120m range with it.

Within this range you always have the upper hand

[lusty ocean]

The T-34-2GFT is great but the aim circle explodes when you turn it slightly

[cursive minnow]

Huh? Thought we was talking about the polish td

[muted rampart]

That's what you have crew skills and vert stabs for

<@&481447501690568709>

[heady dawn]

<@&481447501690568709>

[lusty ocean]

Chinese TDs are my favorite tanks ik how they work, I’m glad the T-34G has ret Cali

And it has the best stationary camo in the game (Other than the Alecto)

[cursive minnow]

Are you frontlining in the td or in the back?

[lusty ocean]

I midline, I don’t like to camp

[cursive minnow]

It’s made for more frontline

[muted rampart]

NC 70 has one of the best gun handlings among T10 TDs... so the gun shouldn't bloom a lot while moving

[lusty ocean]

Yea no

[cursive minnow]

Yes Actually

[muted rampart]

That's bad then. With this tank you must always be as close to enemy as physically possible.

[lusty ocean]

I’d say it’s more midline because you have no armor at all

[granite valve]

Can i just send screenshots of E-100 in bushes in corner of map

[cursive minnow]

Huh? It has armor from what I saw

??? 😭

[muted rampart]

What? Are you actually serious?

And again, beyond 120m range you deal very little damage.

If you play beyond that range you play it wrong. End of story

[lusty ocean]

I’m talking about the tier 7 Chinese tank destroyer

[cursive minnow]

We’re talking about the polish td

[lusty ocean]

The other guy mentioned it before

[cursive minnow]

That’s in #off-topic-discussion 😭

[lusty ocean]

NC70 looks like pretty okay rn not anything special, other than the mechanic

A 175MM only doing 500 just doesn’t make much sense. Even though I understand they don’t want the tank to be OP but 720 alpha instead of 500 would make more sense. And it doesn’t have to have insane DPM either

[cursive minnow]

I thought the damage goes up depending on the range

[lusty ocean]

It goes down the farther away you are

So 500 is its max damage up close and it goes down the farther away you go

[muted rampart]

No. It goes up

It deals 700 below 50 meters and 600 below 120 meters

[lusty ocean]

They must’ve changed it then

Wait what that’s literally what I said

[vivid swift]

Can we buff IS-4 as well as the other tanks in list?

[acoustic hedge]

is this good for fv?

[prisma jetty]

Which fv?

[acoustic hedge]

fv 183

[tranquil willow]

I wish they would fix the Destiny.

[muted rampart]

No. Calibrated shells are an absolute must have, you also don't need shell velocity so take gun laying drive instead to reduce horrible aim time.

Aside of that, Camo net is a no brainer on every single TD in the game, while toolbox should always be taken over enhanced tracks regardless of the vehicle you use.

[worldly quartz]

Why don’t i see this in blitz kit yet

[tranquil willow]

I thought you knew

[cursive minnow]

It’s a new tank being tested so I don’t know much.

https://opentest.blitzkit.app/tanks/nc-70-blyskawica/ @worldly quartz

[tranquil willow]

No I'm not talking about that haha

[cursive minnow]

🤔

[tranquil willow]

I thought Ju-Nu better than to question my skills lol. Get the joke?

[cursive minnow]

Ohh 😭 I was confused

[tranquil willow]

Need a platoon mate

[cursive minnow]

I’m at work rn I leave around 11

[tranquil willow]

Lmk

[ivory quiver]

Hilarious

[tranquil willow]

Just got the Skorpion G from the Snowglobe Ball.

[signal dagger]

Congrats

[formal timber]

I think we should add something like this into the game, a tank academy where the beginner will learn how to play and then get a free premium or collector tank but for 2-3 week

Like chimera from U.K, SU-130PM from USSR, and M48A2 raumpanzer from Germany

[heady dawn]

That's not too bad of an idea, but the tank choices are horrible.

Giving a newbie an su-130pm is just asking for trouble, and hundreds of Chimeras invading tier 8 doesn't sound too appealing either. Also what's with the lack of a heavy? That's like the easiest class to grasp for a newbie.

Something like the Action X, Jag 8.8, and Obj 590 would make way more sense given they're pretty easy to play

[worldly quartz]

One time i remeber world of tank gave 3 tier x rental for like a week for an event and it ruined tier x gameplay

[frank coral]

Hope, this is the correct channel...
T95, Maus, E100....vs..."Papercrew"
Matchmaker needs optimization!

[signal dagger]

It’s anti-seal clubbing lol, it was chaos

[formal timber]

we can agree with it or we just give them a tier 7, like CS-52 LIS, T-44-85, and T26E3 Eagle 7

[tranquil willow]

I'm surprised no one else has come up with that saying lol

@cursive minnow @nimble zodiac Got the KPZ 07 RH from the auction. Is it any good?

[fresh crane]

😭

[flat zephyr]

Not really

[clear shuttle]

rammer is usable

[scenic hazel]

when are we going to nerf e6's hatch

[worldly quartz]

why does it need a nerf

[scenic hazel]

What is that question, do i gotta explain how unbalanced its hatch is or

[cursive minnow]

Well you’re asking it to be nerfed

[meager dawn]

e6 is strong but its balanced ngl if anything maybe slightly nerf the reload but its not hard to outplay

[scenic hazel]

Pre buff e6 was perfectly balanced, current one rn is beyond overpowered because its a heavium that can easily hold off any medium flank then push it because barely any medium can cut through its hatch

[fallow eagle]

I like how e6 went from bring very underpowered to the point e5 was no brainer option, to one of the best/overpowered heavy 😂
I agree that e6 is kinda overpowered and would need a slight nerf, either in the hatch or the dpm
It also doesn't help that meds like 62a and stb have fallen off, an e50m and e6 plat can just stomp a med side easily

[robust root]

BUFF. THE. LION’S. MOBILITY.

[dreamy nymph]

i dont think the e6 should have as much dpm as it does, but it is basically a medium with more hp which is rather unfair, as for its hatch, the sides of its turret are easily pennable.. completely hulldown this is a leopard 1 looking at it with heat. the left side is arguably easier to hit than the hatch itself. with AP the weakspot is just as big

alternatively, aim for the bar below the hatch rather than the troll hatch, if its not using gun depression

[meager dawn]

yeah i think the armour profile just isnt the problem, you cant nerf its mobility cus then it just becomes a nothing tank so if any nerf the dpm seems the most reasonable

[dreamy nymph]

i dont like heavys having more dpm than many single shot meds, it doesnt balance out well

[muted rampart]

Armor profile is very much the problem. Yes, the tank isn't as strong as other heavies, but it's not a heavy, it's basically a medium.

Before it got the armor buff with PBR, when you could auto pen the entire hatch, not only the centre with standard shells of any tank at T10 it was perfectly balanced, because the tank just didn't work in hulldown. Anyone would shoot your hatch before you peeked and were able to shoot back.

Right now it's just perfect in everything

[meager dawn]

you just explained why it needed the buff and why it shouldnt be reverted

[muted rampart]

What? Are you insane?

Yeah it was tricky to use back then, but it was not a bad tank, like at all, it was still one of the best T10 heavies. It actually took skill though, you know. It wasn't me go hulldown, me click type of tank like most heavies in the game.

Just nerf the cupola to the ground so it can be penned with standard and the tank will be perfectly balanced and probably still on the stronger side, just as it used to

[meager dawn]

if you give it a dumb cupola theres genuinely no reason to take it over an e5, the dpm becomes useless because you cant poke safely and the e5 is already faster than most other heavies so you can still get into position faster than them and its already bad in a brawl due to no hull armour and weak modules

[nimble zodiac]

There's a reason someone may take a Chieftain Mk. 6 (mostly pre-nerf) over a Super Conqueror. The cupola doesn't nullify the mobility and DPM advantage.

A cupola doesn't matter if you get a farming opportunity either

[muted rampart]

No, it's absolute nonsense. If you take the armor on cupola away, it becomes what it was always meant to be. A medium with more HP. It would still be insanely fast, it would still have more DPM than E5 can ever dream off and it could still chase down mediums and bully them.

But it will actually take some skill to play and you will be able to punish it for it's mistakes.

It's only bad e6 players that benefit from stronger cupola, anyone who did well in it before the buff doesn't care about it at all

If you wanted to use it to brawl with other heavies no wonder you can't feel how insanely overpowered the tank is right now.

[meager dawn]

chieftan is good because it has hesh and is a farming heavy, but the e6 isnt like that (also super conq is just objectively better than mk6 unless youre against bots)

[meager dawn]

as i said dpm is useless if you can neither brawl or peak safely and it will never have a posistional advantage over mediums and wouldnt be able to fight heavies just down to the way the game works

[muted rampart]

E6 is exactly like that. E6 is a definition of a farming heavy.

If nerfing E6's cupola is suposed to kill the tank, then please explain, why on earth before the cupola was buffed it was still one of the best T10 heavies in the game.

No, nerfing the cupola won't kill the tank, it will just make it balanced and take some skill.

If you can't handle a paper heavy, just switch to other tanks and don't play the E6...

[terse beacon]

Uhh e6 was already better than e5 in randoms before pbr where the cheeks were a lot easier to pen and the hatch was a bit weaker haha...😅

Armour is just less important than other factors like mobility for the better players

[muted rampart]

👆

[meager dawn]

youre saying armour isnt what makes a tank good but also saying e6 needs to be nerfed specifically in armour?

[fallow eagle]

I never sit still in e6 on a ridgeline to fight heavy tanks such as 60tp or e5 because that hatch is still pennable by Heat even if its a bit troll
I think it shouldn't have more dpm than 215b AND a troll cupola either way
I can still say that a good player can make a fast tank with great gun,10° gun depression and 3k dpm will make it work anyway
Believe me, we don't need wot PC meta here, where fast tanks with great turret,good gun depression and high dpm rush to a good position in start, sit there and dominate the enemy team, finishing matches within 2 mins (in wot PC, withing 7 mins)

[ivory quiver]

Can u not understand what he wrote?

He said armor isn’t AS important as other factors for better players, NOT that it isn’t what makes a tank good like you said

[terse beacon]

Well you're trying to make the case that e6 with less armour would just be a worse choice than e5 when in actuality it would still be the opposite. E6 even when everyone could pen the cheeks with standard was a very strong tank due to its other attributes, but in its current state the tank is just blatantly overpowered, if you're going to make it so versatile it can't also be reliably strong hulldown

[twin egret]

it's so much more brutal in skirmish mode rn

[wary saddle]

Frfr

[vestal ocean]

Nert e50m HP point , dpm, armor please... is that what u call medium ????

[full cedar]

no

[golden lagoon]

Get rid of health bars in general..

[twin egret]

^^^^^^^^^

[ivory quiver]

Go to war thunder bro

[wicked quest]

I don’t get why this is even a thing because there’s literally no point to this complaint

[cursive minnow]

Idk why are we trying to change the main appeal of wotb

[modern heart]

yes just turn blitz into WT, smart

[upper knot]

If you play Blitz, no matter who you are, you are going to complain about something eventually. There's no need to call players who do that names.

[unique scaffold]

Nerf nc70 on armor department aswell as the t9. Damage drop should be higher aswell

[fallow eagle]

The tank is not even out yet

[muted rampart]

Why? It doesn't seem to be game breaking

[unique scaffold]

It's supposed to be a brawling tank, close range, yet the damage drop over distance isn't too bad, armor wise, it will be impossible to pen hulldown. It can trade, go hulldown, has good top speed, accuracy, imo it needs to be nerfed before coming into the game, same for the t9 and 8

[muted rampart]

How it isn't to bad? Beyond 200 meters you do 400 damage with over 10s reload at T10 TD... it gives you worse DPM than some T9 heavies...

If this doesn't force you to brawl then idk what does.

Wait for it to come to the game and then decide. On test it seems to be a fairly average tank.

[unique scaffold]

400 damage is still too much imo, it should be significantly lower, like 300

400 still allows you to pull out some damage. I am not on the test, but i know that if the idea is to force people into brawling, the alpha should be smaller at 200m

[muted rampart]

Then you should wait and see for yourself before commenting.

There are some maps at which you physically can't get closer to enemy without getting eaten alive. It needs to at least be able to do anything past those 200m.

A T9 heavy DPM still forces you to come closer for any decent damage, but you aren't completely harmless beyond your most effective range

[unique scaffold]

What maps for example? And i played it on wot pc, it was broken at close range, but the drop over distance was enough for it to be useless if you camp

[muted rampart]

This game isn't even similar to WoT PC. You can't use it as a reference.

It is still useless as a camped in blitz.

As for maps, for example Faust heavy side, although possible, it is hard to get close to enemy at Falls Creek heavy flank, unless your team pushes with you, you ain't doing much on Black Goldville either.

You get the point. The tank is already very reliant on map RNG, if it gets any further it will be straight up useless in some matchups

[unique scaffold]

Oh my bad i thought you were a good player, but what you just said proves me you aren't, falls creek, since the tank has decent mobility, you could definitely go medium side, and you wouldn't even get penned with your level of armor, and on goldville, you either go in the medium side corner or hulldown heavy side corner. On faust, top medium corner, you become unkillable. Use mobility on heavy side to take early position on the middle.

This is how it's supposed to be played. Sure you could camp if you want but you shouldn't be rewarded with 400 damage every shot since it defies the whole purpose of what the tank is made for

[scenic hazel]

Erich: ap > apcr standard
140: give it adaptive

[nimble zodiac]

Lol. Heavy TD going medium side. Lol.

[rustic garnet]

Buff fv1066 senlac

[muted rampart]

Yeah and then you get swarmed and owned.

It's good that you have a 100% controll over where your team goes...

[muted rampart]

Also rewarded with 400 damage lol. Do you even hear yourself? 400 damage every 10 seconds on T10 TD and you call it a reward?

That's worse than majority of T8 TDs, no one is going to be camping in this tank

[muted rampart]

Besides everything you described here is nonsense. Every single position you described traps you in place and as soon as you lose the team support you are dead. You can't just go there unless situation is perfect and you know you have advantage on this side of the map.

And funny how medium side corner on Faust is apparently located on the heavy flank according to you huh? Since i only mentioned the heavy side in my comment.

[unique scaffold]

You also have to pay attention to your team. Sure you will be surrounded if you don't play with your team. Dont expect the team to play with you, adapt with your team

[golden lagoon]

ⓘ Banana

[naive silo]

buff t-62A's dmg...... 330 -> 350

[robust root]

Oasis sucks. it can go away again.
the other two are alright, Oasis is actually horrible. take it away

[nimble zodiac]

Mirage?

[robust root]

Yup. That one. I had the wrong name

[nimble zodiac]

Tear it apart in #maps-discussion

[heady dawn]

Nerf Erich
Alpha 500 -> 450
Shell reload 5 -> 6.7
Reload 20.83 -> 20
DPM 2322 -> 2022

[cursive minnow]

Meh

[full cedar]

it would still be annoying, they should nerf the mobility

[floral blaze]

nah cope

[heady dawn]

Very insightful

[icy hull]

I think Titan Strife's depression angle need to be -10

[vestal ocean]

116f3 is ruining the game, nerf it instanly plzzz

[quartz echo]

The panther 1, and Panther 2 need more speed, Panther 1 speed is like 50 send it up to 60, and add 5+ Speed to Panther 2, And give it better Acceleration for which it's slow, we need to buff them for which both weak armors but good speeds but sucky acceleration You need like a custom game mode for them to go faster so pls buff these two tanks @devs

@brisk cedar @lapis yacht

[cinder shard]

No need to ping the devs, they regularly check these channels for constructive input

[uneven pike]

GIve M103 10 gun dep? There is no reason it got nerf to 8 in the first place

[shadow dove]

they don't......

[cinder shard]

They do. The issue is that most comments are just "Buff/Nerf Tank X". It's really only useful if it includes why a tanks needs a buff / how it compares to similar tanks at the same tier and specifically what could be changed to help the issue. We've just recently had a buff for a few tanks, including the Avenir and Bisonte for example. That came to life through collection of feedback and acting upon it

[shadow dove]

So that sounds like it's time to BUFF the Rhm. Pzw. it's pen is AWFUL, 241mm pen is something you would find at tier 8/9, at tier 10 that is absolute crap, also it's view range, why does a light have less view range than a medium, aren't lights made to spot enemies? Really, this game makes no sense, I don't understand how a Ho Ri can pen anything, but a Jg for example, bounces so much......
they just need to test the tanks themselves in game and see what is wrong, they cannot just decide by written feedback, they have to make themselves an own picture

[cinder shard]

They are doing that by having people who play provide feedback and changing characteristics according to the feedback they receive. The devs play their own game, but it's more useful to consult a wider audience if they see an issue with a tank or so on. Thus we have this channel for any constructive and serious feedback

[shadow dove]

so, maybe start buffing lights, what is the purpose of them if any medium just outdoes them with stats......
Rhm Pzw my main example since I have that tank, a Leopard 1 is just better in every way, no need to own a Rhm Pzw, and the price difference in the tech tree as well.....

[ember idol]

It wasn't nerfed, it always had -8° since 1957

[full cedar]

yeah, and it doesnt need 10°, what positions are u using bruh

[quartz echo]

The panther 1, and Panther 2 need more speed, Panther 1 speed is like 50 send it up to 60, and add 5+ Speed to Panther 2, And give it better Acceleration for which it's slow, we need to buff them for which both weak armors but good speeds but sucky acceleration You need like a custom game mode for them to go faster so pls buff these two tanks @devs

[full cedar]

you dont need to post the same text again

[balmy veldt]

Why can a tier 9 do 1k

[nimble zodiac]

M-V-Yoh

[balmy veldt]

But it isn’t as mobile

[muted rampart]

It takes 5 seconds. Quite often you can simply avoid eating both shells or just punish the guy for it. Erich is just a fat T9 burrasque

[balmy veldt]

Alpha should be nerfed, a t9 medium shouldn’t be able to do 1k

[muted rampart]

It's fine really. You have many t9 meds/lights doing 930 in similar amount of time. 1000 isn't a big step up from that and you pay for that with having basically 0 DPM. It's a trade off. It's good at punishing enemies for stupid plays and finishing tanks off, but whenever you need to deal damage quickly to save the game Erich will just let you down.

[balmy veldt]

So many players just ruining games by yoloing and putting in a grand

[muted rampart]

That's just stupid gameplay. You have players doing that in any other autoloader or derp tank. You can't stop that, nor is it a reason to nerfed a balanced vehicle.

[balmy veldt]

Alpha should be nerfed.

[muted rampart]

Average conversation on #tank-balance-discussion :

• a player states something
• his statement is proven wrong
• he repeats the same thing with no counterarguments

Istg what is the point of trying to rationally explain anything if all people care about is how they feel about something

[balmy veldt]

Nothing has been proven wrong. You’re just explaining things about the tank which I know.

[muted rampart]

Yes we know you probably got clapped by some erich player today or yoloed by some kid trying to have fun with their new tank. The thing is that it doesn't affect the overall performance of the tank and thus is meaningless in this discussion.

You said nothing in this discussion besides "alpha too high" and "players yolo with it"

[balmy veldt]

Nah this guy, so dumb

[muted rampart]

Oh sorry, now besides those 2 aformentioned things you also called me dumb. What a great insight, thanks for sharing it, it will surely add any credit to your statements!

[balmy veldt]

Apology accepted

[upper knot]

Please be nicer to one another. Talk about the argument - not the person.

[heady dawn]

2400 DPM is certainly far from 0.

In fact, when compared to all the other tier 9 autoloading mediums/lights, it only comes up as the 3rd worst in terms of DPM, and that's not considering the fact that it does more damage per shot AND clip than all but one.

The only exception is ATAC, which does a whopping 80 more damage per clip, yet sacrifices so much more.

The Erich on the other hand doesn't sacrifice anything of value for such incredible damage potential, that's the problem with it.

[muted rampart]

2300-2400 is low for a T9 med. And it does sacrifice it's accuracy for the alpha as well. It is one of the least accurate T9 meds.

Literally the only thing that makes it different from Skoda is the fact that it does whopping 100 clip damage more than it and does it in 2 shells instead of 3 in return for less DPM, longer combined intraclip and worse accuracy.

Why does no one complain about Skoda then? Oh well maybe because it's not a new shiny collector tank and half of the playerbase forgot it exists.

Sure those 100 damage may come in handy from time to time, but it's a fair trade off. One gets to peak less and has extra damage, while other gets quicker unload time, better accuracy and more DPM

[heady dawn]

The reason why the skoda isn't considered OP is upto 3 simple reasons; alpha, clip size, and armor.

The Skoda only has 300 alpha while the Erich has a whopping 500, that's almost double. That along with the fact that the Erich only needs to hit 2 shells as opposed to the Skoda's 3 means that the Erich on average, is much more reliable when it comes to dishing out damage.

The Erich can just poke, shoot once, reload and still get to deal 500 damage while only losing half its DPM. The Skoda on the other hand only deals 300 and loses 2/3rds of its DPM.

This ties along nicely to my next point, armor.

The Skoda might aswell be made out of cardboard with how little armor it carries, basically anything that hits it is almost certainly guaranteed to penetrate. In fact, it's lower plate is thin enough to get HE'd trough by basically any 152mm.

The Erich on the other hand, has an incredibly strong armor profile in comparison. A massive chunk of its turret sits at a crazy 240-260mm, which is enough to bounce most standard rounds of even tier 10s, and enough to make almost any tier 8 medium/light struggle even with premium. And that's not all, because the Erich also possess quite the troll hull armor. It has an upper plate that is not only 260mm, but also an autobounce on flat ground to any AP/APCR shell.

This means that the Erich doesn't even need to go hulldown to bounce shots, even just hiding the lower plate is enough to bait most shells. This is obviously a stark comparison to the Skoda, which struggles to bounce anything, even from tier 5s.

This, combined with the prior differences mentioned, results in the Erich being much, much better at trading shots, as the Erich not only needs to poke less often, penetrate less shots overall, but also have a much higher likelihood of bouncing any incoming shots alltogether.

And if that wasn't all, it also deals 100 more damage per clip, and while that doesn't sound like much, it adds up quick, even in a single battle.

[muted rampart]

Sorry, but that's just nonsense.

Alpha is meaningless here. Skoda has 2s intraclip. I can't think of any situation where you can shoot once, but cannot shoot twice. Sure you may sometimes not get the full clip off, but you will get the 600 done basically every time.

And as for armor, no skoda isn't a cardboard. Back when it was first released it was infamous for insane amount of troll bounces it got and since it's armor was never changed it largely remains to this day. It also has entire sides covered in spaced armor which makes it pretty much immune to HE.

Sure Erich may have auto bounce UFP and some semblance of reliable armpr on the turret (the entire middle part is 240, not 260, it's a massive difference) but it's not anything that you can rely on. Does it help? Yes. Does it allow you to make any other plays you couldn't do without that? No.

And skoda in exchange for that bit of armor has a higher top speed.

Is Erich a bit better than some other T9 autoloaders? Probably? But come on, don't make it look like it's some overpowered auto win button. It fits in perfectly within boundaries of a balanced vehicle.

It's got it's own unique style of autoloader that has it's advantages, but it pays the price for it. Don't cherry pick scenarios that obviously favour the larger alpha 2 shot gun, since both of those tanks have situations where they shine and those that they aren't as good in.

[heady dawn]

This isn't cherry picking, all I've mentioned are very real scenarios that happen nearly every battle. But hey, if you think I'm so heavily cherry-picking here, I welcome you to mention some scenarios of yours where the Skoda will perform better.

Also I can't be bothered to re-repeat the same points over again so I'll keep things brief, sorry if it comes off as a bit harsh.

Alpha is very important, it lets you out-trade tanks you normally wouldn't be able to. Skoda cant even out-trade your average 105mm, Erich can out-trade literally any 130mm and below.

Second, 2.14 seconds is a lot of time, especially when you're fighting close range. I assure you I can poke in and out of cover in way less than 2 seconds, that's why the alpha actually matters.

Skoda is made out of cardboard, just admit it. You literally cherry-picked the little 3mm strip of spaced armor on the sides as proof that the skoda has 'troll armor'. It covers less than a third of the sides. It's only troll if you're clueless enough to shoot HE at its sides.

And it's not even close to being HE-proof. There is still the spots between the tracks and of course the big massive lower plate.

Erich's turret is 240, only when you're staring perfectly straight. Erich's turret has a special feature, where it oscillates, but unlike most others it doesn't have a lower weakspot that stays stationary. That means that if you angle its turret up or down even a few degrees, that 240 quickly becomes 250, 260, and even 270. Now point it up or wiggle it up and down and you get a turret that is extremely troll, certainly more so than any part of the Skoda.
‎

That along with the autobounce ufp puts the Erich in an entirely different category of armor, and its absolutely more than enough to rely on, and it certainly allows for many plays you'd otherwise never be able to pull off with a Skoda.

And what does the skoda get for sacrificing so much armor? Oh right, 5 more top speed, oh and a 2% better p2w ratio, a completely worthy sacrifice. (Funny how I forgot to mention that it goes 3kph slower backwards and turns 5% slower)

Oh, sure, it's definitely not something that'll automatically hand you wins on a silver platter, but that's true with every tank (Yes, even your Smashers and Annihilators), yet it seems as if some tanks are still labeled as OP, and that's no exception with the Erich.

[remote oriole]

Vxl68‘s points are better

[odd remnant]

Tier 9 batchat exists and that thing's clip timers are also cooked
Give it more time before saying if a tank is broken or not, bourasque was trashed on by players when it first came out, and right now its singlehandedly breaking tier 8 med lineups
Action X was complained about and people called it pay to win, yet it's one of the more useless tier 8 prems
Erich might just be a fart in the wind in a couple updates once players get used to it, and if any tanks near its tier get rebalaneced.
If the statistics show it consistently overperforming, WG may nerf it
otherwise its still a tier 9, and tier 9 is the least played tier for a reason.

it's too easy to have emotionally charged discussions about tank balance for a tank that just got rebalanced/released

[fresh crane]

The enrich is a little op
Which isn't surprising when a lot of t9s is on a similar level

I mean I see good arguments on both sides

[viral harbor]

WG Should buff lion speed, 40km/h it slower than 50b

[hallow sphinx]

Increase the T1 health a lil bit. other tier 5 heavy tanks start at like 780 (KV1) T14 has 750, BDR G1 B starts with 680, Mitsu 108 starts with 740 while T1 starts with 650 and the turret gets it to 700.

like with the old turret the T1 should be 680 health and with the new turret 730 health. the Tank still has decent armor so I think my idea is not that bad

[meager dawn]

t1 heavy has less health for a reason, that being that it has amazing armour and good mobility, bdr has mobility but patchy armour, kv1 has good armour but is slow (these 3 are around equal for highest WR at t5 for tech tree tanks)

[dense gazelle]

Hello fellow developers! Today I pumped up the 10th level BZ 75! I need to upgrade this tank for 10th level the tank is very weak there is a lot of penetration zone the tank needs to be balanced urgently 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻the tank can even penetrate through a cannon, how do you understand that!¡!

[full cedar]

these places aren't angled, that's why it's easy to pen

[balmy veldt]

Perfectly said

[balmy veldt]

Wdym alpha is meaningless? Are you on something

Real

[fallow eagle]

I agree with all your points

[quiet heath]

Nerf t34 MT

[naive silo]

buff t-62A's gun depression (+1), and dmp 3,156 -> 3300...at least make it somewhat special

[cursive minnow]

Nah

[terse beacon]

Imo Erich isn't op because it suffers the same fate as most tanks of its tier aka tier 9 syndrome haha😄. A tank like that absolutely dominates tier 8s comfortably but imo falls short against t10s, unlike the other t9s considered op. The tank has its strengths but also some very exploitable flaws

[naive silo]

why not? theres no reason to be playing this tank, its basically outperformed by every other mts

[honest drift]

buffing a russian tanks gun depression is like breaking the law

[naive silo]

lol

[granite valve]

Lowkey Ts-5 should have more hp

Just my random thought

[heady dawn]

All tier 8 TDs should have a minimum of 1300 HP

1100 HP at tier 8 is a joke

[full cedar]

why are you guys giving reactive Armor to everything???? It's really getting annoying

[nimble zodiac]

Reactive armor?

[hollow jolt]

Please show crew in open tanks like waffentrager and nashorn

And add noice of crew inter talking

[full cedar]

Yeah that

[junior gate]

Why are you showing us lesta tanks blitz ?

You are in the wrong server

[full cedar]

<@&481447501690568709>

[primal yacht]

✅ impon09 was banned.

[tender gust]

Are they gonna buff the Churchill 3 at all by any chance?

Specifically its turret and spaced armor on its side (the air intake can be penned in a sidescrape)

[ivory quiver]

Extremely unlikely imo it’s pretty balanced atm for its tier too

[tender gust]

Eh it’s really not

[empty burrow]

Lorraine 50t should be buffed either the accuracy or the speed

[tender gust]

It hasn’t been touched in 8 years and all it really needs is a turret armor buff or it should get its special matchmaking back and it’s kinda weird because the Churchill 1 has the same turret has the mk3 yet the mk1 has more armor

[ivory quiver]

It hasn’t been touched in 8 years because it hasn’t needed to be

It’s performance across players is actually on the upper end for its tier as well

Now maybe in reforged they might rebalance lower tiers and in that case they MAY adjust it

But I’m telling you after double digits of years playing this game, it’s extremely unlikely to happen because it’s in a balanced state

[tender gust]

id see that u have any tips for it?

[tender gust]

I’m kinda surprised tbh

[ivory quiver]

Tips as in how to play well in the tank or something else?

Also if you do feel so strongly about the changes to the Churchill, I suggest trying to leave feedback when we get the next ultratest for reforged, they will send out a survey for players

Unlikely to work imo but can’t hurt to try

[tender gust]

Play well in the mk3 bc it’s been a while since I played it

[tender gust]

but anyway how’s ur evening going? Or whatever time of day it is

[ivory quiver]

I suggest you sidescrape in the tank, minding your angles so you don’t overangle and give the enemy an easy shot

The enemy will be able to pen your weak turret even when sidescraping so I would advise against reversing out to aim at an enemy that is aiming at you already

The tank is slow so pick your positioning wisely. Read enemy lineups, if they have a majority of mediums it’s very likely the main engagement will happen on the medium flank (the side your medium tank allies spawn facing)

Fight light and medium tanks first because they will have less pen and armor than enemy heavies and tank destroyers making them easier to kill quicker with less risk to you

[tender gust]

Uhhh yea about that.

[tender gust]

so basically focus mediums and lights in it?

[tired saffron]

Brother no ones gonna be hitting that with any sort of consistency at medium distances , thats a hard shot even at shorter ranges ?

[tender gust]

How do u explain the amount of times I’ve been killed there that spot is annoying as hell

[ivory quiver]

The average tier V player will not be hitting that weak spot, don’t worry too much about that

The turret is a bigger concern when sidescraping

I would advise not sitting still either, rock your tank hull back and forth to bait shots then stop to aim in

[ivory quiver]

Well yes but the hard part is that you’re much slower then not only them but the average enemy heavy tank as well

Pick where you go carefully, learn from your experiences

[tender gust]

and pick fights carefully?? And I’ve seen that it does good in a support role

[ivory quiver]

Well yeah you want to but remember you’re really slow haha

Stick with a few friends, having a faster tank to finish off the enemy or a better armored tank to take more shots for you

Basic things but you only get better at doing them as you build experience

[tender gust]

Don’t remind me how slow they are

[deft void]

Why did WG make the Type 5 heavy a collector when they could've monetized this one? It even has rockets lol

(Schwertwal means killer whale for those who don't know)

You know what? I take it back the Schwertwal could be added (without rockets) to Blitz along with the E 77, like a alternative option for the Tiger II

[twin egret]

So it's a German IS-4 (when it had hull armor) with a 15cm

[prisma tinsel]

I also agree that the BZ needs some buffs!

1. It has the worst AP penetration among tier X heavies, and its accuracy is also bad. But it doesn't even have a gold shell! If you encounter a Type 71 or a Maus, you can’t pen them anywhere except for the hatch, even with calibrated shells.
2. So it ends up playing more like a 183, but its HESH penetration can’t even reach 200 mm with calibration. The Chieftain has 20 mm more than the BZ, and the 183 has over 40 mm more! Even the Vickers, which is a light tank, has same penetration.

It has the lowest DPM among tier X heavies and armor that is not reliable but just trollish—but that’s fine. The penetration is the real issue that makes the BZ frustrating to play.

[odd remnant]

BZ-75 is kinda fine where it is right now, tanks don't need to be meta to be fun
slapping for 800 is quite fun as-is, and if anything, maybe just give it slightly higher DPM

[full cedar]

solution: use 130mm gun

[fresh crane]

Waste

[worldly quartz]

Imo it’s quite underwhelming with bad armor(or any when you load premium) the only thing that stands out is the hesh gun but its kinda a double edged sword since you don’t even hsce premium rounds certain tank like vk just trashes you

[deft void]

I would say is more similar to the 60TP Lewandowskiego, since it has more similar traits not only in the appearance

[deft void]

I would probably remove the 15cm gun and the 130mm give it 530 alpha to compensate the inaccuracy, HESH firing guns in heavies aren't that good since you play a heavy to also keep brawling against other heavies, the current penetration of 170 in the BZ 75 isn't good at all maybe 200 would be enough and I would give it 920 alpha to the HESH and remove standard HE

[zenith inlet]

268/4 is broken

[nimble zodiac]

It really isn’t

[heady dawn]

Far from it

In fact I'd say when it comes to tier 10s its a bottom 3 for sure

[zenith inlet]

Well I guess it's way I play it then

[marsh shoal]

Add Brummbar as a Tier 6 Premium TD

[muted rampart]

No, it's enemies you meet. V4 is a bottom 3 T10 tank in the game, it only works against enemies who have no idea on what they are doing. It has basically 0 outplay potential, while playing it you are on the mercy of your enemies.

[zenith inlet]

Nah

[muted rampart]

That's literally how it is. Due to slow traverse and acceleration it has a slow reaction time, so you can only deal with enemies that come right at you, while gun is inaccurate and has low DPM.

Armor on the other hand just simply doesn't work. You can't angle, side scrape, hulldown or bait shots in any way, while when you face enemies straight on as you should with this tank, all it takes is like 340 pen to butter you through the superstructure.

The only thing as bad as V4 at T10 i can think off is FV 183. Anything else would be better than that.

[zenith inlet]

Enough my tank my rules

[muted rampart]

That's not how it works. Every tank is played on the same battlefield with same rules applying to all of them. Some are just better suited to exploiting them than others

[zenith inlet]

Just shush

[wicked quest]

Great argument

[zenith inlet]

Whatever

[tough heath]

60tp lewandoskiego needs ap, that's all.

[tender gust]

Real

[tender gust]

What’s ur opinion on the baguette Sherman it’s fire in my opinion just slapping people in technically a tier 5 tank for like 450 if u he them is just funny af

[clear shuttle]

then play a different tank

[full cedar]

why are you replying that to me?

[worldly quartz]

I think 60tp is fine the way it is as a 60tp player myself the tank is balanced

[naive lava]

Vk90.01p add reservation to nld and give alpha 500

[wicked quest]

Speech 100

[hollow jolt]

Please add rocket booster to bz line like wot pc

[floral blaze]

lmao nld just say lower plate i know ur sayin нижняя лобовая деталь but thats not correct in english its lower plate

[timber lantern]

HWK 12 need buff because i played that tank before i grinded RHM PZW, HWK is really hard to play.

[strange cedar]

116-F3.

Give me a reason to even bother to ever use the horrible autoreloading gun.

[pure laurel]

Nerf wotb

[fallow eagle]

Already starting to powercreep

[deft void]

Switch HWK 12 for the Ru 251 so it gets similar as the WoT PC order

[deft void]

They're gonna add that in reforged

[tough heath]

I'm also a 60tp player, but even so, put him against a type71 and you'll see how monstrous the difference is.

[deft void]

Not every tank has to be at the exact same level to be comparable, 60TP is alright where it is

[heady dawn]

Here's an idea that just came to me

Give the ISU-122S an alternative 152mm cannon with better accuracy and AP pen than the SU-152

Then it could be sold under the gist of a "poor man's smasher". Then there'd actually be an incentive for people to buy the thing

[tender gust]

Guys I’m struggling in the M4A1 rev any tips???

[muted rampart]

Tbh if it had an actually good 152 at T7, but with terrible HE so it can't be like Su 152/smasher it could be very interesting

Like 560-600 alpha with decent DPM, pen and accuracy

[devout hearth]

Do peek a boo tactic and try to let your teammates go first so you won't get shot a lot, Rev only have a few armor for hulldown but is enough to deflect most shots whenever you peek and reverse

My only problem of it is it's 9 seconds reload which is annoying when it's a cqc against a tank with shorter reload time

[tender gust]

Yea uh the thing is ppl target me

[devout hearth]

They know Rev have weak armor so your an easy target, try to not get spotted a lot, however it got insane alpha and pen so it's a good thing

[sinful saddle]

Ok here’s what you do………this is discord so F off.

[deft void]

I find it interesting because they just want the money they simply allowed a Tier VII tank have outrageous DPM, both are running CS btw but it is just crazy to me how the smasher even has some advantages in the gun handling, I don't care if someone complains if they spent a lot of money for this tank but if we ever switched the DPM in these two I hope a lot of noobs didn't spam the smasher and casually ruining the low tier experience. And it's gets even crazy because the smasher literally has more camo and mobility in some aspects.

[pure swift]

Imo all peashooter tier 10 mts (<340 alpha) should have a faster reload than the leopard 1 or at least the same reload. It doesn't make sense that you not only get out trade and out dpm but also get out reload by higher alpha mts which defeats the purpose of playing a peashooter tank

[modern heart]

it makes sense when you consider different tanks have different strengths other than just the dpm

[prisma jetty]

Well there's only 4 tanks that fit that criteria. Obj 907 has quite troll armor that can get a decent amount of bounces, tracer shells, and still retains quite nice mobility. STB-1 has far better armor and flexibility than the leopard. T-62A again has far better armor. And the TVP 50/51 has a clip with high alpha

[empty burrow]

The accuracy should be buffed on the Lorraine 50t

[pure swift]

I don't mind low alpha tanks having worse dpm but getting out reload by higher alpha mts is crazy. T-62A should get E50M reload with the same alpha, that way it would be more viable in the meta without being OP. Stb-1 dpm is ok as it has too many strengths already, T-62A not really. Like why would you drive a T-62A instead of any other well-armored medium. 907 armor isn't even good but it has tracer shells.

[wicked quest]

62 used to have the best mobile accuracy paired with a high rate of fire at a time, it even had the fastest handling of the mediums, wargaming butchered it in the rebalance

[pure swift]

They also nerfed the armor right?

[nocturne obsidian]

the hull armor got a bit better, and the turret got noticeably stronger

[pure swift]

That was from the pbr changes quite long ago. So at least the armor wasn't nerfed in the more recent rebalancing update which is good to know. Just that cali was buffed making armor less effective in general

[nocturne obsidian]

yeah there's the cali buff as well, also i don't know if this is still the case but T-62A gets less gun depression if you aim over the lights at the front

[pure swift]

I don't think it has such problem atm, probably was fixed at some point

[granite valve]

Imagine Super Pershing buff

[stoic marsh]

Nerf E50M armor and remove reactive armor

Or buff stb gun and turret armor

[fallow eagle]

Bring back e5 and stb meta

[meager dawn]

stb has been left behind a bit i think but its still quite strong

[muted rampart]

Anything but that and Type 71 meta. I would prefer old IS-4/E5 meta over whatever that was

[barren goblet]

Tvp meta. That was super balanced tank on release

[simple trellis]

should make it M36 Jackson instead of just Jackson

[ivory quiver]

What is the difference

Sry I don’t know

[simple trellis]

In the tech tree it’s called Jackson, but should be M36 Jackson

[ivory quiver]

Oh I thought there was a historical difference or smth 😭

[simple trellis]

lol

[pure wharf]

good times, team comps were actually more varied instead of "hey guys lets just take 7 of this tank"

[pure wharf]

to be real specific it should be M36 GMC

[tranquil imp]

@grizzled geyser

[formal timber]

The biggest troll wargaming ever did

[ivory quiver]

Fun tank ngl

[vestal ocean]

E5 need a buff to dpm, 8,5 sec is smth too long for a 400 damage

[muted rampart]

That's why he called it a troll

[cinder shard]

<@&481447501690568709>
Interested?
Spammed over multiple channels

[primal yacht]

✅ hugolarsson0436 was banned.

[upper knot]

Why yes, it looked very interesting. 😉

[cinder shard]

_<

[full cedar]

bruh did WG touch BZ68s gun or what? Everytime I shoot HESH it deal ~560 and I don't remember it be like that, why are the alphas so low comparing it to kpz?

[muted rampart]

No, it was ways this bad

[quartz echo]

Panther 1 Needs a different speed, and a better armor set, Panther speed 60, Panther Armor needs to have stronger front and sides for which it's a good rammer but it has really no armor so we must add the 60 speed to panther 1 and add some armor that's good enough we need to basically buff this tank

[heady dawn]

Buff Cobra, it struggles heavily in tier 10 and it even struggles penetrating some tier 8s on flat ground.
The tech tree Cent gets AP, more DPM, much better accuracy, better armor and heck, even better mobility and the only thing it loses out on is 50 more alpha. The Cobra simply gives up too much for what frankly isnt big enough of a difference in alpha.

Loadout | HEAT/HESH > AP/HESH
Pen | 235/200 > 245/192
Alpha | 400/500 > 440/560
Reload | 10.37 > 11.5
DPM | 2314/2893 > 2296/2922

[gilded rain]

Autos are good guys 👍

we get 1 and they get 5 ⚖️

[knotty aspen]

Isn't it called M36 Jackson in after match briefing

[simple trellis]

Yea

[barren goblet]

While i dont disagree that panther is mid, i wonder whats your opinion about panther 2 and e50 since i find those 2 worse. Panther at least has functional armor for its tier and great pen ( low alpha i know) .

[meager dawn]

panther 2 is horrible to play, e50 is decent once you get the 350 alpha gun but that takes a lot of xp

[slate ruin]

are they going to fix mk6 chief? Hesh is actually useless when ur against hulldown heavies, absolute atrocity of a tnak

[ivory quiver]

Well it’s not broken they just chose to change it from being an all rounder into being a specialist tank

Honestly I just wish they gave the chief it’s old gun back as a second option and then people can pick what they want to use

[deft void]

Next branch? it would be cool if it had a similar gun the FVE Defender has so this light tank would be vulnerable at poking out btw there's more of the VZ 71 Tesak.

[waxen geode]

Do all upper tier tanks (9,10) have special camo? I am saving my favorite camos for the upper tier tanks but if they have special camo I'll just use the exclusive camo on those upper tiers. Thanks.

[muted rampart]

Not all, but vast majority

[waxen geode]

Thank you so much!

[surreal orbit]

Not really

[surreal orbit]

Bro hesh isn't ment to penatrate everything, especially not hull down heavys. It would have to have lots of penatration for that and probably more than the AP shell.

[terse cairn]

All tier 10 except 116 F3, Murat, Rhm Pzw and waffen f1.0 have legendary camo, but you will need gold to buy them

[vivid swift]

Buff up IS-4, it's underrated now a days. Accuaricy and damage is low.

[waxen geode]

I got a lot of exclusive camo from boxes for my lower tier tanks. Im guessing they don't give tier 10 exclusive camo away like that right?

[slate ruin]

Im not saying it should, im saying old apcr and gold gun was better, now you cant even pen an e100 turret face on. The tank wasnt op as it still struggles with its cupola
Well known to everyone by now, the hesh dpm is nice but the tank struggles against hull down meds even.

[terse cairn]

They gave away some like E100 Stalwart, FV 215b 183 Hammer, e50m monster, Kranvagn nidhogg, BZ 75 sand cruise etc

[untold rapids]

!translate en Xin chào

!translate en Xin chào

[tender gust]

It has armor it’s just old

[upper knot]

Hello to you too!

[glad flower]

L ragebait

[thick yacht]

is this really getting added into the game , seriously? T9 btw , TIER 9

5s intraclip

[prisma jetty]

Awww man, you mean a tank that hasn’t actually been released yet might now have finalized stats? Thats horrible!

[heady dawn]

The Erich is just straight up better and its already in the game so it wouldnt really suprise me

[nimble zodiac]

Those stats are bugged. It's supposed to be a burst autoloader

[thick yacht]

either ways , 1.2k dpm is just horrible

[thick yacht]

afaik , this tank is being tested with THOSE stats...

[cinder shard]

I'll just say something - compare the dpm of the Atac in game and on the website. The website calculates some stuff wrong...

[odd remnant]

its around 2k dpm

[barren goblet]

Maybe they count DPM with last shell used, i dont know

[thick yacht]

ah , hopefully because 1.2k is just dum lol

[odd remnant]

Blitzkit doesn't handle burst autoloaders and treats all shells as equal

[spare wolf]

Devs! It's time the SP I C got it's original 3 shell gun back. You know it makes sense. Get on with it.

[wicked quest]

It never had 3 shells

[dry kraken]

buff teh E 100 in damage, just a lil bit

[thick yacht]

no

[fallow eagle]

Then buff it ALOT

[robust root]

HESH gun on the Cent 1 needs cheaper HESH.
it's unplayable cause it eats 20k every game. WITH PREMIUM ACCOUNT

you have to do 2.5k to gain nothing.
and if you lose, double that

[muted rampart]

That's the price you pay for using HESH guns

[formal timber]

maybe wargaming should make the interface on reforged like this

[junior gate]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-mouth-drooling-mouth-open-open-mouth-gif-8120874980806799832

[terse cairn]

Its a bug

[stoic talon]

The FVE Defender needs more penetration and more dpm

[humble acorn]

I am disappointed that the French D2 tank is in the game, but not the Somua S35. Additionally, the maps are too small, which makes the gameplay feel too fast. For better balance, I suggest making the tanks slightly faster and the maps larger.

Another suggestion is to allow players to fire with all of a tank's cannons. For example, on the B1, I can only use the turret cannon and not the second, larger and more powerful one on the hull. This would add an interesting layer of strategy.

Lastly, for a more realistic experience, it would be greatly appreciated to have the option for the tank commander to poke their head out of the turret, just like in real life.

[cursive minnow]

💀

[humble acorn]

?

[vestal ocean]

Buff t110e5 plzz, on blitzstar it is on the bottom of winrate... buff dpm or base hp plz dev :((

[humble acorn]

I don't have the shop/store, look what I have instead, it's urgent !!!

[wicked quest]

No
Go play war thunder

[humble acorn]

?

[humble acorn]

😭

[robust root]

There shouldn’t be a 10k silver loss on a 2.5k damage game. Even if it is a HESH gun.

Should it make less credits? Yes, but you should still make credits if you do decent. Right now the gun penalizes you for simply playing it. That’s not ok. Because it’s a 10k penalty with premium account
What if a F2P player wants to uave fun with a free HESH gun? They can’t. Cause it eats nearly a game’s worth of silver for every game you play with it

[wicked quest]

Premium time barely makes a profit with standard tanks, firing premium ammo in a standard makes it worse, your not even making a profit your just cushioning the loss

[robust root]

That’s kinda what I expressed.

[simple trellis]

bro stop

[deft void]

Is it possible to give a extra gun to the Centurion 1? How about that Tier IX 20 Pdr Type B barrel that requires around 55k XP to unlock it? It could be a great alternative over the HESH gun, it wouldn't make the Centurion 1 broken at all but that tank definitely needs some recognition since it doesn't even have a PBR upgrade in the past months.

[ruby shore]

fr

[fresh crane]

Play wot pc bruh
This is a mobile ooga booga 13 year old anime girl pfp game, not a realistic one

[pure wharf]

technically the Somua S35 is in the game, just as a low tier german collector from ages ago

[pure wharf]

guess the 215B and 260 also need buffs via this reasoning

which they dont

[white inlet]

If the company would just stick to historic documents and blueprints when it comes to authentic tanks, then all this whining and crying about one tank or another being OP becomes irrelevant. I'm not watching Fox News. Therefore, I care less about fair and balance!

[pure wharf]

what
if that was true:

The Cheiftain Mk.6 would have insane pen
The Kpz 70 would go forward and reverse at 65kph, have a 5s reload and much more gun depression
Loads of premiums would simply disappear

[pure swift]

Rhm Pzw should have 100mm of HE pen like on wot pc

[nimble zodiac]

Players actually care a LOT about tanks being balanced. Being authentically historical won’t solve that issue

[cursive minnow]

Atp go play warthunder

[cinder shard]

<@&481447501690568709>

[jade cargo]

✅ skeazly3059 was banned.

[sage bridge]

@delicate folio is it possibe to fix loading in garage bug

wrong channel unluck

[delicate folio]

what's the bug

[crimson heron]

To Maus or not to Maus

[unique scaffold]

Tank balance idea : give the object 260 an engine boost

[prisma jetty]

Or, crazy idea, balance tanks around base stats such that they don't need anything extra in order to be competitive

[heady dawn]

Or, even crazier idea, remove all premium shells and give every tank 999mm of pen

[fickle tinsel]

1/10 ragebait

[vast frost]

What could make the Obj 263 better?

[ivory quiver]

Maybe this is a controversial take but I don’t think it needs to be better

I think it’s a tank with a relatively specific niche, with perks that effectively disable it from being a flexible TD

imo that makes the tank interesting to play as opposed to the boring meta tanks

[fallow eagle]

Increase heat pen of 5a to 340mm

[unique scaffold]

Have you considered perhaps that it would be fun to go 60 in a heavy tank

[prisma jetty]

So, hear me out, propose a 260 rebalance that lets it go 60 🤯

[pure summit]

Wow I know prems tank doesn't get touched much but helsing needs a consideration. 400 shell range on a tank that has the lowest hp (as a td) and not so good armor is just top of the line balancing by wg (pun intended)

[spare wolf]

It really did, back in the day.

[wicked quest]

Ever since spah 1 C was added it never had 3 shells your thinking of pc

[heady dawn]

What the 183 looks like right now VS What it should look like

[meager dawn]

i think the hull armour is fine but the turret should be paper

[twin egret]

it should have less view range and worse mobility

[obtuse rover]

183 should branch out from the Conway and add a 2nd badger for tortoise cuz the line looks wierd

Grinding Conway would be insane cuz u get both 183 and 4005 lol

[fallow eagle]

That should be enough to reduce the 183 spam
It's such garbage when there are 2 183 on each of teams, stops all kinds of plays

[lean spindle]

tiger frontline quest won't show up too

[vestal ocean]

Buff t110e5 dpm please devvv

[cursive minnow]

How much dpm does it have rn?

[vestal ocean]

depent on your equipmen, but maximum if u use gun rammer and 2 food is 8,52 sec for 400dame 😭

[meager dawn]

e5 doesnt need any more dpm cus it has one of the best armour profiles in the game

[manic flint]

e5 needs more armour

[fallow eagle]

Buff e5 dpm to 2700 base
Why does e6 start with 2900 dpm with better mobility and 10° gun depression
(Why do all t10 British and American collector heavy have 10° gun depression and only one tech tree has 10° gun depression?)

[scenic hazel]

Give 140 adaptive

[vestal ocean]

just lower to 8,22 sec for t110e5 with 400 dame because it has rounded armor, to complete with super conqueror

[wispy sigil]

For e5 wargaming can just make it like 2021 era with red speed boost + reactive only that, itll be good if we can see e5 and mle brawl on the tournament, rn the tournament only use mle as main tanks

[formal timber]

Wotb should have tier 11 on tech tree too

[shy isle]

What would tank be? T-14 armata and abrams X?

[wicked quest]

???

[strange cedar]

If M60 looks like paper rn we need to fix the M60 level before we step foot into that.

[ripe plaza]

Maybe we should make healing less profitable

[nimble zodiac]

Oh they're camping? Just capture the bases

A shell spent healing another is a shell not spent hurting you

[ivory quiver]

[wicked quest]

They won’t be able to combat bleeding, eventually they’ll run low on ammo or the fastest healer can’t be healed fast enough in return

[full cedar]

could we get a T34 buff? its just dissapointing how terrible is everything on it, hull armor isn't as strong as T29 or T30, turret armor also isn't a big thing, takes HEAT and its easy to pen, also when barely turning it. terrible dpm and barely any accuracy? come on, also the moobility

[heady dawn]

It needs a biig mobility and accuracy buff, maybe even a bit more dpm

[fringe totem]

can someone buff the wz 121 turret armor

[ripe plaza]

back to 6 degs of gun depression on the front

[fringe totem]

yeah I want it to be able to hull down

[vapid island]

WG needs to buff old premium tanks

[ionic kraken]

Remove spall liner, make HESH great again

[river oracle]

buff M48 Patton

give T20 a legendary camo

remove fv215 badger from the game

[tender garnet]

Leopard PTA really needs PBR—it’s the only German Tier IX tank still without one. On top of that, it needs a buff. The tank has practically no armor and poor gun depression, making it tough to perform well. In fact, it has the lowest win rate of all German Tier IX tanks.

[honest drift]

it had 40-70mm turret armour irl

same goes with leopard 1

[split quest]

Dear Wargaming Team,

I am a great fan of World of Tanks Blitz and would like to share with you an idea for a new tank, which I believe could become a bright and exciting addition to the game as a Tier IX premium vehicle.

Its concept is based on the playstyle of the T49, combined with the dynamics of the T92E1, but featuring a unique two-shell autoloader for the 152 mm gun.

This tank is designed not only for fun gameplay but also to provide an unconventional playstyle, balanced between power and vulnerability. I tried to make it strong but not overpowered, and I hope you will find the concept interesting.

It might serve as inspiration for an event, a fun mode, or even a fully-fledged premium tank.

Tank Concept: T49 Defender Mk. II

Main characteristics:

Parameter Value
Tier IX
Class Light Tank, Premium
Gun 152 mm (2-shell autoloader)
Ammo Types APCR / HESH
Alpha Damage (APCR / HESH) 550 / 750
Penetration (APCR / HESH) 235 mm / 190 mm
Intra-clip Reload 7.5 s
Magazine Reload 21.8 s
Accuracy 0.39
Aim Time 4.8 s
Ammo Load 18 shells
View Range 270 m
Top Speed 55 km/h
Hull Traverse 40°/s
Turret Traverse 35.6°/s
Gun Depression / Elevation −9° / +20°
Engine Power 650 hp (~26 hp/t)
Armor Similar to T49 (light, symbolic)
Camouflage +10% stationary, +4% moving
Weight 25 tons
DPM (APCR) ~2250
Theoretical DPM (HESH) ~3076

Thank you for creating a game that has brought me joy for many years. If you like this idea and ever decide to implement it, I would be truly delighted to receive rewards such as rare tanks or even a press account, if at all possible. This would be a huge motivation for me to continue generating new ideas and supporting the game as both a player and an enthusiast.

Sincerely,
[dgdfvcdd]

[uneven turtle]

Erich Konzept:

[tender garnet]

I’m not complaining about its armor, I want a PBR update for it and some rebalancing could make this tank much better. Currently this tank is just mid.

[barren goblet]

Careful with what you want. Anytime they rework leopards, they take away degree of gun depression.

[muted rampart]

Wasn't it buffed like a month ago? I played it after the buff and it is much better than it was, i like it quite a bit now, it seems balanced.

Things like M6A2E1 Exp deserve buffs much more, it is just horrible

[vestal ocean]

“Hi everyone, could you share whether you usually use armor boost or hit points boost for the Type 71, and why you choose that option?”

[cinder shard]

I personally use improved armor, since that's pretty useful with the Type. It makes the armor a bit more troll and harder for the enemy to hit/pen is you wiggle.

[vestal ocean]

Tks u for sharing opinion, i often use Hp boost since prammo era 😭

[ionic kraken]

Double 183's dispersion, triple it's reload and aim time, finally make it slower than a stock T28 with a damaged engine, then it'll be balanced

[tender gust]

NO

[tender gust]

At-15a and T26e3 eagle 7 come to mind

[sinful bough]

Its me or tiguer frontline is a VK90.01 in tier 7

I feel like michael wittnam

[muted rampart]

It is a very good tank. Basically your standard Tiger, but slightly slower with more armor and gun depression

[sinful bough]

Yep, but its armour its a bit fragile his armour

The ultimate 30 secs I almost died

But its balanced..... not like others......

Anni cof cof*

[dry kraken]

Give E 100 a buff to 2 things: 1. frontal armor and lower plate 2. buff in AP, HEAT, and HE shell dmg

[full cedar]

no

[muted rampart]

No, why? E100 is very good already

[short tundra]

There is a bug about exchanging chinese tank charm to credits

look this 👇

Please Kindly Fix this

[rustic garnet]

Could we improve the wz 111 5A because it has lost a lot of what made it unique, it's damage per shot, its troll armor and maybe other characteristics

[tame kayak]

it seems fine tho

[fresh crane]

This literally isn't a bug

???
It's to help people who have all sorts of incompatible certs of the same tank

[short tundra]

But...

I want sell for credits cuz I'm broke 😛 (oh god please reduce slowmode time)

[tame kayak]

grind creds then

[short tundra]

I always get minus credits each matches

[tame kayak]

then you're doing something wrong

[short tundra]

Noe noe my team is sucks and I always get +2k

[tame kayak]

carry harder then

[terse cairn]

I would suggest only 2 things - give back its 680 alpha and buff the turret armour from 270 to 280 mm just like in wot pc

[uneven turtle]

Or get this, revert equipment changes where Calibrated Shells were buffed while Enhanced Armor and Improved Assembly were nerfed

Cus e100 was doing just fine before and still is now but still struggles slightly more

660 alpha is still ok considering you don’t need tungsten thus is able to roll some higher than average shots when compared to things like the vk 72 and 60tp that only have tungsten every now and then

[terse cairn]

Yes but its very unlikely to happen.
But it should have the 680 alpha cuz rn there is no point of using it when you can just use a 60tp with tungsten

[muted rampart]

Just use the stock gun. It's way better after the buff

[terse cairn]

That's why I am suggesting to give back its 680 alpha. Then it will be a good alternative to the 460 gun

[muted rampart]

It's still a good alternative tho? It's not like it's very bad or anything, it works perfectly fine and still has it's upsides, it's just less versatile and thus worse for competitive gameplay

[terse cairn]

I am not saying its bad. It is still good and hits hard but the thing is there is no point of using it when I can just use a 60tp with tungsten. The old 680 alpha gun was a good counterpart to the 60tp

[muted rampart]

Well majority of tanks in the game have better alternatives.

E100 is already a very good tank, it doesn't really need any buffs

[pure wharf]

never cook again

[vestal ocean]

Is this the best t110e5 equiment

[muted rampart]

No, use Calibrated shells and Refined Gun

Also, use multi kit instead of med kit, why do you play without fire extinguisher?

[tender garnet]

Why the heck aren’t you using a multi-repair kit? Use calibrated shells and refined gun. V-Stabs isn't worth it for any tank.

[polar matrix]

So with the new polish tank shell being so powerful won't that mess with the rest of the players and get nothing but polish in matches? I don't know the stats on all the guns but this seems like it would mess those up.🤔

[tender gust]

Exactly

[tender gust]

Eh with stuff that fire on the move it helps a LOT

[pure wharf]

refined makes the circle smaller period

would only take stabs on vehicles with decent dispersion but horrid gun handling (CS-63)

[tender gust]

The at-15a has horrible on move

[surreal orbit]

Wargaming, please let us buy some tiger frontline parts or give us another quest for them? I have this annoying glitch

[nimble anchor]

Just make heavies good again by removing the buff to calibrated shells

[cosmic elm]

Rebooting again because the mods I installed don't work and it doesn't matter and it won't stop me hahahahaha

[full cedar]

man you should nerf t100s tracks health or sum how in the hell a whole E100 shell hits them and t100 completely eats it without any damage??

[meager flare]

Please WG leave those polish rds like that, make them the new G FTs we wanna see them spammed in comps and tours

[muted rampart]

It probably hit the track and went under the tank

Module health doesn't impact it's effective thickness. Most tracks in game are 20mm which isn't enough to stop anything

[meager flare]

POV : KV4/KV5 tracks

[muted rampart]

Their tracks aren't any thicker. But their side itself is 150mm, which with additional 20mm from the tracks make them eat a lot of shots

[meager flare]

Nah the tracks are thicker

[meager flare]

Kv4 is vompletely gray when u shoot it on side its a bounce

[muted rampart]

No, they are not. 20mm as you can see