clan-leadership

[quick oxide]

There just is nothing there. And we have no ability to manipulate or edit the logs; or erase our actions ... so it will remain a mystery.

[lucid meteor]

O daamn so ig it was discord

[fallow nymph]

Thank you for your time & effort. Repeated mysteries will present a pattern, and with a pattern the truth can be found out.

Steps will be taken to ensure even further proof is collected for the posting of SIGYN's advertisements.

[daring juniper]

bro its not that deep

[orchid knoll]

@fallow nymph I think there is an automated system that deletes messages that violate (something?). I have seen it happen before with my family's recruitment post

[fallow nymph]

Links is probably what you're thinking of, 183 something. We use the same template every week as well

[orchid knoll]

So weird

[restive ibex]

If that happens, the deleted message is in the logs (with the reason why with it) - in this case, there isn’t anything in the logs

[river tide]

Only eng...

[orchid knoll]

Fair enough

[boreal epoch]

Hi fellow leaders. I am here to present to you a project of mine. To put it simple, I'm trying to create a collaboration between clans.
The main goal is to build a shared community for as many trustworthy clans as possible. This will create a safety net, more opportunities for competitive play and more. We're also focusing honour among the community as a whole so only clans that are free of toxicity and other harmful behaviour. Moreover, we want to host fun events, challenges and some activities that may not be related to Blitz.
If you're a (co-)leader of a clan and you think that your clan meets the criteria and want to participate in this project, reach out to me in DMs.

[daring juniper]

you gonna be creating a discord server for this project or something?

[boreal epoch]

Yes, of course. Discord is a must if you want to coordinate.

[rugged cloud]

darknightth was banned.

[stray granite]

Our clan is righteous, and behaving with honorable distinction is in our rules. I believe we fit who you are describing, but we are on different servers. Are you planning this for NA and APAC also, or is this an EU endeavor?

[boreal epoch]

So far I’ve considered to only do it for EU

But I guess if there would be a high demand from other servers, I could also make same project for those serversservers too.

[raw lantern]

Guys Idk why but I cannot find ClanTurk [CLTR] clan. It was the only turkish clan that had clan avatar. Where did this clan go?

[topaz zodiac]

I have no idea, but if you are looking for a clan my clan will welcome you with open arms

[fickle glen]

wrong server

[stray granite]

Clan leaders, there is an Open Test coming up: #open-test-announcements message
It is an opportunity to voice our needs for improvements to the clan UI more directly to the developers. I know being a clan lead takes a lot of time, but your help with this can improve the game for all clans and clan members.

[cinder comet]

I'm looking new leader for my clan, if you interested come DM. And pls +18 peoples

[boreal epoch]

Looks like you don't have open DMs.

[boreal epoch]

Anyway, here you go:
Hi, if I get this right, you're looking for a new clan leader? I'm the leader of B4L (now disbanded) and FIBER. Currently I'm also trying to create an alliance between bigger amount of clans. I can speak english quite well, I'm proficient in administrating discord servers and despite being young, I have some skills for leading people. Over the age of 18, obviously.

[craggy anvil]

why do ou want alliance between clans

I am also leader of a small clan

[boreal epoch]

In unity there is strength

[hollow sail]

Am also leader of Small Clan

[cedar sandal]

are you searching alliances?

[cedar sandal]

tell me name pvt

[autumn escarp]

No

[hollow sail]

Can you tell me more about that, how it works etc.

[cedar sandal]

I'll tell you Pvt

[loud yoke]

i would be interested in allying with a good clan

[fallow nymph]

<@&481447501690568709> - Today I'll ping again to find out if anyone can explain why the reactions were removed from SIGYN's last advert (#clan-recruitment message) posted on 4:15pm ET Monday, 5 Feb?

We again had several of our members add reactions to make our post pop, which isn't prohibited according to the posting rules, yet earlier today at around 1pm ET one of my Deputies noticed they were all deleted. Even though we've since replaced the reactions with possibly even bigger numbers, we've collected evidence of our reactions being removed & have witnesses who will tell you they had to replace their reactions today.

~ The screenshots below show a Deputy replacing some reactions at 1:56pm ET earlier today. ~

Our advert was deleted two weeks ago & nobody provided a reason or accepted responsibility, but now I'll ask - who removed our reactions & what was the reason?

[simple kernel]

Dear moderators, me and the other members of sigyn hereby respectively request an explanation as to why our reactions were removed off the clan's advertisement post as when checked earlier they had been removed.

[formal crane]

My reactions were removed on the same post @fallow nymph mentioned, could i please get a reason why my reactions were removed?

[jolly ocean]

My reaction was also removed. What is the reason?

[long locust]

I reacted and am a member of sigyn and they where removed as stated above by @fallow nymph I would like to know why as well

[viral flare]

My reactions were removed from the post @fallow nymph and would also like an explanation

[solid vortex]

Alright, I'll bite, how is two random screenshots proof, and are you done advertising your clan in this channel as well?

[fallow nymph]

I would love to not have to mention my Clan in this channel, but our concern is fair & we'd like an answer. Feel free to disregard out "two random screenshots", but if I'm making this up you also have to claim our reactors are lying.

I have no animosity, I just want to advertise freely on behalf of my community. Why would reactions be removed without any reason being given?

[solid vortex]

I hate to answer your question with another question, but why do you think we would go out of our way to remove 2 reactions from specifically your clan post?

Is there something you are not communicating here?

[fallow nymph]

I have no earthly idea, which is why I'm asking. The screenshot is not our reactions which were removed, it's when our Deputy began reinstating them roughly 9hrs ago.

Based on the messages above, it was more than two which were originally deleted.

[solid vortex]

Nobody has gone out of their way to pick on your clan. There are other posts in that channel with reactions and not a soul has had an issue with that in the past. Perhaps you should look internally and ensure your deputies are not being feckless and attempting to blame administration for such trivial matters. There are no rules being broken with a thumbs up and check mark so no action had been taken.

[celest shell]

There where ton of reactions. Mine included. i had to redo it. i don't understand why that would disappear.

[solid vortex]

Nor would I, you also need understand we would face punitive action from WG staff for doing such a thing. Only a daft man would do perform such a childish act and risk losing their station.

[violet birch]

Regarding the other message: I also reacted to SIGYN's Weekly Advert message. As of earlier today, I noticed that all of the Reactions from the message were missing. I understand that if something within your Discord server violate your rules, a moderator will remove it and provide the reason for said removal. This doesn't appear to be the case here as so far, no moderator has provided any sort of rationale behind the removal of the reactions.

I simply ask: Why was my/others reactions were removed without any explanation being provided? I also humbly request if there is a tangible reason behind it, that it be brought to our attention so it can be addressed.

[torn sphinx]

My reaction to the post was removed. I have readded it. I can confirm that many more reactions were also removed

[formal crane]

Hello, i am a deputy for SIGYN, we aren't trying to blame administration for what's happening, we are just trying to get a definitive answer as to what's happening with our posts as it seems to be mostly happening to SIGYN making it seem like we are being targeted somehow.

[solid vortex]

As previously noted, we would not bother players with this matter. I cannot stress enough that we understand your plight and that adding a reaction can be time consuming. However, there may be some inner clan issues it is not our place to get involved in such affairs. We believe in promoting an active welcoming environment for all players and we would not tolerate behavior like this among our fellow moderators nor would the WG staff.

You have my sincerest apologies that there is nothing more we can do to assist.

[torn sphinx]

While I appreciate the sentiment and can understand the difficulty in identifying some individual that may be acting this way, it just so happens that I took a screen clip of the reactions as I added mine the first time (the hog highlighted). As you can see, they are different. I respectfully request that the moderation team take the time to assess whether this is a deliberate act. It seems highly unlikely that it was some technical error. If all other explanations are impossible, the remaining contradiction must parallel the truth, which is that this was a manual intervention.

[solid vortex]

Have you attempted to reach Discord support at all? It is fully well possible you were being rate limited.

Without each member submitting a ticket to discord support it's impossible to say whether the issue is of ours, discord, or they would be able to see your's as a group.

[torn sphinx]

OMG I have sent the wrong image. My apologies...

[fallow nymph]

Would this advert have been rate limited as well, which features significantly more reactions than ours did? - #clan-recruitment message

I thank you for your kind demeanor but I must say I'm disappointed in your dismissal of the situation as it exists in front of us. I don't understand what "inner Clan issues" you're claiming are at-hand here, as this seems to be rather straightforward:

• We had many reactions on a Monday advertisement.

• On Thursday, it's discovered they've been deleted.

• Others messaging in this channel are confirming they re-added their reaction which was deleted, so we either call everyone a liar or find out why their reactions were deleted.

If your explanations stop at what's already been offered, then I'll thank you for your time but also state the appropriate actions are not being taken to ensure this won't happen again. We had proof of a previous advertisement being deleted absent a reason, and even if our proof of the reaction-removal is dismissable to you there's still witnesses stating they had to put their reaction back on the same advertisement.

We will no longer pester you personally for this issue as you've made your stance clear.

[daring juniper]

Take a chill pill

[dusky trellis]

Hello, i heard thats theres a special discord server for searching for CW oponnents, Can someone be so nice and send me a invite on DM's? ^^

[terse lance]

Sent

[dusky trellis]

thank you

[orchid knoll]

Yes, leadership should always be active and involved with members. You might set activity requirements and remove people who violate then often. Always be open to suggestions from members on how to improve your clan. Try having events and tournaments to boost activity. Definitely keep an eye out for any possible recruits.

[craggy anvil]

Yeah you are right

[rugged cloud]

dirtywhiteboy1971 has been warned.

[spring quiver]

Not dirtywhiteboy1971!

[lament gust]

How do I expand my clan?

[orchid knoll]

Create a second branch under a related name. Put a trusted deputy in charge of it. Your clan name is OBLVS, so maybe OBLV5 as a feeder clan

[lament gust]

So make another clan?

[orchid knoll]

Yes, if your clan is full. Adding a second clan gives you more space and a larger family

[lament gust]

Lol I only have 6 members in my clan. I probably should've mentioned that

[lament gust]

However I will remember that in the future

[orchid knoll]

In that case, completing clan missions and having very high platoon activity helps a lot

[stray granite]

Put out an advertisement every week on #clan-recruitment . Play to your strengths and emphasize what differentiates you from other clans. Hang out on #clan-search and find new players. In a clan with 6 members, you're not going to attract pros, so focus on new guys and build your clan. Also, go hang out in low tier battles and find new guys who aren't in a clan yet. You can get your numbers up and then start raising your standards.

[lament gust]

Ok thanks for the advice

[echo gulch]

making a training room for recruitment is extremely underrated

[orchid knoll]

If I may, how do these recruitment TRs work?

[echo gulch]

however you want, title it appropriately and sometimes interested people will join, can connect with them by playing a few games

[sly moat]

Hi

[cedar sandal]

hi

[dusky trellis]

hi

[lucid meteor]

Howdy

[cedar sandal]

Look this bro's from damm, icee 🥶

[lucid meteor]

whar

[sly moat]

Hi

[stray granite]

I promoted a member to deputy over the weekend and everyone in the clan got a message they had been promoted (including me). WOW. I can't believe they haven't fixed this bug yet.

[quick oxide]

Yep ... unfortunately.
Saw it myself a few weeks ago 🤷‍♂️

[sterile gazelle]

It sure gets everyone excited though

[boreal epoch]

Excited at first but confused afterwards

[dusky trellis]

Yeah just write on clan chat thats a glitched message, thats what i always do and no one is asking ^^

[toxic herald]

It never ends

[cedar sandal]

it happens with me too XDDD, each time 50 messages and the members celebrating to be promoted XD

[stray granite]

It's a bug that causes unnecessary drama for the clans. It used to work but was broken by an update. Common sense would be to have a developer spend 25 minutes to fix the problem in the last 5 months.

[hot arrow]

Do not require too much from wargaming, they can't even fix problems with disappearing invitations to Tournament teams since forever, I think it doesn't matter for them if it's working correctly from time to time..

[shut minnow]

Drama? A message? What kind of clan do you run 😁

[fallow nymph]

This comment seems inappropriate for a server moderator

[shut minnow]

Okay

[cedar sandal]

an active one : )

[shut minnow]

I cannot imagine a scenario where a single message which doesn’t even relate to the majority of the clan can cause a drama. Weird if you ask me

[cedar sandal]

it is, every time someone gets promoted you receive all the clans telling why they are promoted....

[shut minnow]

How’s that a drama? Don’t you announce it before hand? It’s understandable it may cause a few people to question it but it’s far from drama.

[cedar sandal]

i do announce it lol, but this error(very easy to fix) let the messagge be saw to the others...

[shut minnow]

So despite it being announced that person X is being promoted to position Y and users being notified about it, let’s say on a clan discord, you get what you guys call a “drama”.

Interesting

[cedar sandal]

this is how it works in active clans 😇

[hot arrow]

maybe its not drama but confusion, when i granted deputy to my friend because i had to swap clans for season, some of players asked me if clan is getting disbanded and it caused a lot of confusion

so at some point actually yes, you can call it a drama.

[shut minnow]

A message notifying your clan mates about such action would have surely cleared any confusion possible. At least that’s what I think and from what I can tell according to my experience.

[fickle glen]

when there was a change of leadership in my clan recently, a few guys were a little confused why they were seemingly notified that they got promoted/demoted, but it was pretty easily explained

i agree that the bug shouldn't be in the game and is irritating to some amount, but its ultimately pretty insignificant

i mean i don't really have a problem with yall griping about the bug here, but like i said, its not really gonna serve a purpose. i assume WG is aware of it and there is some reason they haven't fixed it yet

[stray granite]

Yes clan leaders need a place to discuss clan topics and occasionally blow off steam to others who can fully grasp the ramifications of the problems we face. One would hope WG would look in here from time to time to see what we need help with. But if nothing else, we offer constructive suggestions to each other or at least can console each other that, "we have that problem too."

[orchid knoll]

I have a similar issue with the bug. I just started posting a message in the clan chat to ignore any weird notifications.

[quick oxide]

It is a very irritating bug. We have not had any changes in a while, no bugged prompts yet, had a leadership change in clan ( lead goes to a other sub clan for a while ) and everybody in the clan got prompted that they had been promoted to clan leader, etc ... Quite alarming and confusing. Not everybody is in clan chat or discord every day, let alone aware of this bug. So, people log on and ???

[faint willow]

I just created my own clan rn,any tips?

[wary elk]

suddenly my clan's gone for some reason, i looked the name up and it doesn't exist? checked on blitzstar it doesn't exist either... 76151 is the id, tag and name is [0G] Stargazer on APAC server

yet it still shows that there's 3 clans with the name stargazer on search list ingame but mine just won't show up. i checked my members(the one on friends list there) and it doesn't show any while when i check other friends that is outside the clan they're still in

[quick oxide]

MAybe check again in a bit. There's been a few oddities throughout the day, where people reported being clanless ... but then are in clan after a game restart. Which made me wonder if maybe there's some database connection slowdown ... or maybe some upgrade in progress. Don't know. Just thinking out loud.

[wary elk]

just asked my clan members and they're not in the clan either
at first i thought it's just those bug when the clan tag & chat won't show up too
the weird part is when i looked the name up it still somewhat exist. since it shows 3

[quick oxide]

But if it works for most people, it may just be a temporary thing ... along the lines of some work being done ... or maybe a small segment is down ...

[wary elk]

hmm

[quick oxide]

Blitzstars is showing any clan from the top 100 correctly ... so I'm wondering if maybe there's some work behind the scenes .

[wary elk]

it just kept loading when i checked the clan. mfw it's in some kind of limbo 😭

[faint willow]

Siriously I need tips bruh

[wary elk]

already sent a ticket, i hope it will be solved quickly

someone said this is similiar to something that happened to PRAMO clan? 🤔

oh man, i just woke up and wanted to chill and this happened 💀

joined a battle the tag still exist, except when i click my own profile on the battle result

i guess it's server issues

[stray granite]

It depends on the kind of clan you want to build (tournament, grinder, chill...). There's a lot of good info in here if you scroll up. Recruiting from low tiers has worked in the past for me. _34 suggested using a training room where you hang out recruiting a couple weeks ago. Create a good ad and advertise your clan on a schedule every week. It's probably best if you tell us what you're trying to build and then ask specific questions we can help you with.

For your ad, try to convey the good things about your clan and what differentiates your clan from others. A simple, clear message works best.

[faint willow]

Okay,thanks for the tips

[noble yacht]

hello. searching for expert deputy

[dusky trellis]

wdym expert deputy

[noble yacht]

I mean deputy can invite Pple from this discord server or pple who have discord account

@dusky trellis why are you asking?

[quick oxide]

Likely because it is a bit unclear what you mean by " expert deputy ".

Do you not have somebody in your clan & discord that you can promote, even on a trial basis?

[noble yacht]

O:

[spring quiver]

Bro wants someone to do work for him 😂

[lucid meteor]

[stray granite]

In case any clan leaders come here first, clans and tournaments are gone from the EU servers right now. It delayed the tournament broadcast also. They are currently working for fix clans & tourneys. See #game-status-upd for updates.

[lucid meteor]

[noble yacht]

clan leader and deputy leader have the some role if you cant understand both of them are inviting members

[noble yacht]

dont talk while your leader think you are slave and you still in his clan + you are doing his job while he is playing wt

[lucid meteor]

???

[noble yacht]

bro is playing wt while you are doing his job! and you are a deputy

[lucid meteor]

Sure he may have treated you bit diffrent but its not like that and most of the tasks he gives me are simple and easy

[shut minnow]

Take this elsewhere please guys.

[noble yacht]

[lucid meteor]

yeah im sorry

[shut minnow]

It's alright guys.

[sand tartan]

<@&481447501690568709> Please kick & ban, spamming all channels with scams

[noble yacht]

searching for deputy can invite players who have discord account

[dull crystal]

Do people join to your clans using auto-recrutation?

So you have some settings and they auto join when they are fine with requirements

Because I feel like nobody joins my clan this way at all lol

And by at all I mean literally at all, completely 0

[rustic bridge]

@slate mirage nsfw server invite bot @fringe ember

[dusky trellis]

Yeah they do, when you turn on autorecrutation then its visible for players based on your autorecruitment settings ( Language also )

[cedar sandal]

i do, but depends on which type of clan you want to do

rememeber that is still autorecruit, so some players without discord or that just wants clan rewards could enter...

[lament gust]

Hey how do I set my clans emblem in game to a personal emblem?

[terse lance]

So when are wg gonna fix the clan bugs we have?

[lament gust]

What bugs?

[terse lance]

This, pretty much get notif twice a week, for being promoted to deputy. Alr been in game since christmas.

[lament gust]

Oh yh I noticed that too

[dusky trellis]

What about tournament invites? 😂

[sterile gazelle]

You can’t. WG did it for Masters Tournament winners once last year

[cedar sandal]

we know but they don't think it's "important and annoying" when it really is

[orchid knoll]

Get top 3 in a professionals tournament

[lament gust]

Bet

[orchid knoll]

[stray granite]

The forum is closed down now, but the forum was locked to your IGN login. That worked for signing up for testing because they knew the person signing up was the account from the game. Discord doesn't work that way so I'm pondering how they might handle Open Test in the future. Has any of you heard anything on this? I ask here because I could foresee the possibility of OT being clan based in the future.

[fickle glen]

its a good question. ive asked the open test manager how the system will function now that the forums are closed down, and i never got a response. i suppose its possible he never saw my message

currently WG runs their live test program through a clan system, and while a lot more is expected of live testers than open testers, i still don’t see how WG could continue an “open” test by limiting it to clans. for one, excludes all clanless players from participating. second, WG would have choose whether they would only allow certain whitelisted clans from participating, or figuring out a new system to register any interested clan. if its the latter and any interested clan could join, then you have to figure out how to send anywhere from 1-50 open test accounts to the clan leader, and then members would rely on the leader to distribute…seems like a massive amount of work

here’s my personal guess: open test is suspended indefinitely as of now. at some point, WG may return the program, and will allow players to register for the upcoming open test on their own wotblitz.com website. i don’t see how clans could somehow be involved and why that would be necessary. potentially hundreds of thousands of open test accounts would have to be made for them unnecessarily for players who won’t choose to participate in the test, if they implemented the open test for all clans

[quick oxide]

I don't think OT is / would be suspended ... but maybe it is. I guess we'll find out before too long.
I would love it if there would be lots more people and it gets tweaked some.
Sign up no longer being forum based would help actually, since there were always a slew of people who couldn't vote, because they never used the forum before.
Going the clan route would be an option akin live test, but indeed tedious and lots of overhead, for WG & clan leads. Probably not worth it.
There are a few options. Sign up page on the website. Sign up sheet on something like google docs (I foresee player confusion and what not, plus how to sanitize the list, lots of people asking how to do it, if they did it right, etc) . Or maybe there's a solution to scrape the user ids from a discord channel, where people would post their game id nr. Through the website is probably easiest for WG to do ... akin activating a bonus code, quick battle count check, and you get copied a list?

[noble yacht]

Can I get some advices about how to make my clan active?

[dusky trellis]

Come DM's maybe i can help a bit

[visual rose]

The most important thing is to lead your clan like a dictator. You are numero uno. You can also add some vice leaders in game. So they manage the clan in your interest. But your vice leaders also should be dicatators. As soon as normal players are able to take too much influence in the clan, it's going down.

[noble yacht]

You mean the most dump thing if you don't have something to say don't talk 😡

[cedar sandal]

a german leading the clan like a dictator....

[noble yacht]

I said advices at how to invite Pple

[stray granite]

You asked how to make my clan active? That is very different from inviting people. For inviting people, it depends the kind of clan you want to build (tournament, grinder, chill...). Make an advertisement and publish it weekly in #clan-recruitment . Make it clear and short. Try to emphasize what is different about your clan. If your clan is focused on grinding, you can play in low tiers and look for players without a clan (send them clan invites). _34 recently suggested setting up a training room to look for players. You or a deputy need to constantly be recruiting for your clan. As members leave the game or burn out, kick them and replace them with new members.

(also look in #clan-search, but I see you are already doing that )

[noble yacht]

[visual rose]

I am austrian, not german

[cedar sandal]

even worse 💀 🤣(joking)(hoping you won't fail art school)

[daring juniper]

[noble yacht]

What ever wdym even worse

[cedar sandal]

i can't explain before i get muted XD

[noble yacht]

XD ok

[quick oxide]

🤔

Making a clan more active, will depend on the people that you have in your clan, how much you play and how much you communicate with others. Many people just play little bits here and there; and are not that focused on gaming. Or maybe they are very active in one game, but not so much in others.

So, you would have to leverage clan chat and probably have a discord server; to foster communication, cameradery, etc and build up from there. With platooning, voice platoons, etc.

[spring quiver]

Most people will stick to a clan with an active leader who just does things with them. Whether it’s QTs or just tooning

[cedar sandal]

for 90% of players isn't worth it anymore, with the current state of the game, current recruting standard, playerbase etc, it's just better doing an casual clan or if someone tries to do an decent clan, some dude from another clan will try to steal your players, it's better focusing on doing something else that is more productive than managing a clan on this game tbh(you need to invest tons of time and resorces to make an decent clan actually work, and if you are a small clan it's 99% chances you won't even grow)

[quick oxide]

It certainly is not easy; but plenty of people find friendship via wotb that goes beyond the game, into other games, even meeting up in real life, going to tanl events, …

[cedar sandal]

i know, this is why i keep going with the clan, but he needs to know that he needs time, lots of time, and it's very stressful when you start, there are some cheats to start better, but you need to be in the position to use them, it's not for everyone, and if he is young, morally, i prefer that he studies instead of creating a clan here

[hot sedge]

As a clan leader, you also have to be patient and not kick out players who haven't collected any clan points for a week. And as a clan leader, you shouldn't pay too much attention to statistics. Because anyone who creates a reroll account has better stats than someone who plays from the start without ever creating a reroll account.

[visual rose]

That was basically what we did in LXN. Back in the days we were a strong tournament clan but now most people of the old tournament team doesn't even play Blitz anymore. To get new players is nearly impossible for a only german speaking clan as german players stick to their clan until the end.

[astral dawn]

hello guys

[boreal epoch]

It is harder than ever and I agree with this post. Maybe not exactly with everything but more like in general. (The issues are here cuz of playerbase imo)

Maybe it would be worth it to merge some smaller/medium sized clans to get a quick start.

[cedar sandal]

this doesn't work, lots of clan merging just ends with both clans breaking from each other, because different managing strats or different rules or ideologies..., i even have to add that the quality of the players overall just dropped soo hard from when i started, this makes even harder wanting to recruit... Wg games aren't good if you want a serious clan tbh

[stray granite]

It depends on the clans and their leaders. My clan merged with another like-minded clan and it was a great move for all involved. That was over a year ago and we have been strong ever since.

[cedar sandal]

ofc... but i talk in the avg

[orchid knoll]

Just started recruiting three weeks ago. 1st week was 8 max clan rewards last 2 was 10 max rewards. I'm actually surprised to get there that fast. I'm still removing around 10 members weekly that refuse to do clan missions. It's difficult to say the least to find players that will platoon together and help each other. Seems they only want to be in a clan and not contribute. Not one player contacted to join from discord add. I'm only getting recruits from playing in low tier tanks and inviting clan less players to my clan.

[quick oxide]

That may be quite typical.
One has to consider how many people are already in a clan, and are not looking to change. ... and that the average player is probably quite casual and just happy to be in a clan to get some of the small discounts.

As far as the clan adverts, we only get a slice of the player base here. There is a whole spectrum of players and there is a whole spectrum of clans and clan adverts. Some are super basic, may never get an application. More seasoned clans will have stat and activity requirements. Some old clans don't even advertise, as it is more of a private group ... that advertises itself.

But it is always nice to see a good amount of activity in clan-search.

[stray granite]

If you don't already, consider putting a minimum honor contribution per week number in your clan rules. I've heard as low as 20 and as high as 40 here. Ours is set at 35. We use a weighted average so someone who is maybe on vacation but normally contributes a lot doesn't get kicked. Anyway, having the rule gives some people a goal and keeps the contributions on their mind when they play. We also created a "100 club". Each week, everyone who contributed 100+ honors is mentioned in the clan news on Discord and clan chat in game. Some people like having their name up there every week. And some push just a little harder to get from a good week in the 90s to go just a little further to be in the 100 club.

[cedar sandal]

because wargaming keeps doing horrible updates and players are quitting

[orchid knoll]

I have a 50 minimum contribution in profile requirements. If a player isn't even willing to do 7 missions weekly in order to claim rewards what's the point of being in a clan. Built the clan to tier 10 rewards with just 2 primary players before even started recruiting. Only been removing players with 0-5 points weekly so far. Listen to this one somehow a player was accidently removed that was doing missions. Now wants a tier 6 Agent tank as compensation. For not getting 300 gold,2 days prem, boosters ,etc.

That's not even available on N/A server

I sent a ticket to WG. Basically got can msg. response. Update WG responded can't help restore players rewards once dismissed from clan.

[fallow nymph]

We started a 100 Club about 10 months ago. Definitely helps.

[fickle glen]

that's cool

[orchid knoll]

I decided to much BS for me to run a clan of newbies. Gave clan notice to find another clan or just move on. I'm to old to baby sit these children. Maybe 3 members out of 40+ act like adults. Wish everyone pulling this clan thing off well.

[stray granite]

LOL, it can be a challenge. See if anyone else wants to run it and promote them to leader?

[orchid knoll]

Built clan from scratch to level 10 research with 2 family members. Not giving up my discounts. Only 3 or so members even speak English. I guess the lure of joining a clan overrides common sense to join a clan that speaks ones own language. Let alone there server.

[stray granite]

Just a thought. Our (current) clan rules are below. Decide what you want for your clan. Then get rid of the players who don't/won't comply and keep a core of 5-10 you can grind with. When people join, make sure they understand the rules and maybe you can attract like minded players. Maybe these will give you some ideas of a foundation that might work for you:

• English only.
• No cussing (including acronyms).
• No drama.
• No adult, immoral, suggestive, exploitative, offensive, or controversial language, behavior, or game names.
• Avoid expressing political or religious views in clan chat.
• You are an ambassador for the clan. Behave with honorable distinction.
• You must regularly contribute toward clan rewards.

[orchid knoll]

I understand what u r saying that basically was my original clan description. In 3yrs not one even applied. Only one or maybe two players in clan would I even think about keeping. I've sent msgs in eng and spanish and only four have left the clan. I can't translate every freakin language in my clan. I'ts a joke. Have a good week.

[vocal grail]

Use the kick button

[modern fern]

Had my clan basically stolen from someone I trusted but I created a new clan and now powering just as good if not better than my old clan…be careful who you trust as a leader when you take a short break from the game

[cedar sandal]

you don't need to put others as leaders... just put them as vice commanders or just moderators... you are an human being ofc you need breaks too.. smart clan members will understand this and other clans members you can always kick them out.... better an human one than a strong one : )

[visual rose]

Greetings to the Clan -ESA-

[spring quiver]

Is “pls join JJ because I don’t want the feeder to be dead” fall under any of those clan categories

[orchid knoll]

The dead clan category xD

[quick oxide]

I don't have an issue with clan adverts that are looking for more players ... but advertising that a feeder clan might otherwise be dead, seems a bit counter productive, wording wise.

[spring quiver]

So I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time?

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[quick oxide]

What sends out a positive message? ... I'm looking for people for my nearly dead feeder clan so it doesn't just die off entirely ... versus ... a few positions have opened up for people who are interested in helping our competitive clan, join our feeder clan with these reqs. participated in skrimishes, and have a chance to get promoted etc etc ? [ as long as those things are actually the case and possible ]

[orchid knoll]

<@&481447501690568709>

[modern fern]

Yes I have learnt my lesson mate

[modern fern]

Hello

[azure vapor]

Plz join JJ cause Samyollo needs some friends

[hollow sail]

Anyone help me for clan missons
tell me what i can do for increasing my clan misson rewards!

[azure vapor]

Make it a requirement for your members to get a certain amount of mission points per week

[orchid knoll]

What I did was play in tier 3-4-5 and invited non clan players to join my clan. 2nd week was already to max rewards. Here is the problem though. About 95% of them won't even understand English. About 10 will do zero clan missions and you have to boot them each week. So your constantly recruiting. Then u get the 2 pure trash toxic players that get booted each week also. After the 3rd week I booted all of them. If u have been on here awhile like me then the rewards in clan missions are not worth the effort or headache of dealing with newbies.

[stray granite]

I hear you brother. To keep it going you have to always be recruiting in some form or another. Sometimes running a clan is like:

[fallow nymph]

I've always had the "quality over quantity" mindset. Our Clan is 15 months old now & we've never once hit 50 members because we require everyone to apply through our Discord & share a short VC conversation with someone in leadership.

This obviously limits how many people we can recruit but it also means that anyone who's even up for consideration uses discord, understands English, has a mic, and you have a chance to at least gauge their personality by actually talking. They won't just be a random screen name.

Our method isn't perfect & many have decided we ask for too much upon joining, but we've hit max rewards for 58 weeks in a row now.

[rugged cloud]

primesubzero was banned.

[dire wagon]

Our clan is going on 9 years and still going strong! We never missed max rewards since its inception...

[visual rose]

Have you ever missed twister cup finals?

[terse lance]

Proof?

[dusky trellis]

Yeah bro gonna send u screenshots of all 9 years of max rewards each week 💀

[quick oxide]

Totally ...

Really focused close-knit clans or sub-clans with a set of dedicated players, for sure will knock out special events, clan events, and weekly rewards.

[dusky trellis]

[dire wagon]

We knocked them out as early as Wednesday... normally NLT Friday...

[gusty coral]

Hey there! Who knows when will be clan event?

[quick oxide]

I think only WG knows the calendar of events, sales, …

CC may get some small notice and know of some things but then are under embargo until the time they can release videos

[dusky trellis]

I would say in like 2 months maybe at start of holidays

[gusty coral]

Thx bro

[vocal grail]

Hope never again event like the one last autumn, when clans played nonstop during 2 weeks just to see WG withdrawing the main reward

[dusky trellis]

@shut minnow what happened with my clan ad on #clan-recruitment ? I posted it today? I dont got any reason of deleting message i wanna know

[shut minnow]

It violated the rules.

[shut minnow]

@dusky trellis I delete your post, inform you that it violated the rules and you decide that the best thing to do would be to post it again

[dusky trellis]

Then tell me which rule im violeting?

I could just delete that from message if you said it before... I was thinking its about cooldown cuz i posted ad at 15:00 1 week ago

[shut minnow]

I think I have deleted my message now, my connection is buggy

Either way, I can’t run around and personally ask every single person to adjust it accordingly. It’s your responsibility

[dusky trellis]

yes i understand but still a message with it could be enough instead of deleting my clan ad twice... but understood, sorry.

[shut minnow]

As I said, it’s not possible to personally message everybody.

Adjust it and post it once your cool-down allows you

[dusky trellis]

👍

[shut minnow]

Sorry for any hassle caused.

[devout axle]

I'm very confused. First we posted 2 clan ads for 2 clans in 1 family, that's against the rules, okay. So I combine it into 1, post it and then it gets deleted again? Twice in a row? I've checked the rules 3 times but i dont see which rule ive broken with my post

[dusky trellis]

Can you send me that ad on dms? Maybe i can help

[shut minnow]

The same as your colleague above you.

[spring quiver]

-Mod sees that a clan ad violated the rules
-Don’t say which rule even though they know it violated one of them
-Say “it’s your responsibility” when asked what rule it violated even though the mod that was asked claimed they deleted the post

[devout axle]

Honestly, sometimes it's very hard to tell specifically which part of your ad you should delete when you have barely any idea which rule you even violated

Luckily, there are other recruiters with experience to help with that

[modest hound]

so what happens to crank name now

[modern fern]

The person who stole my clan made a new clan and the 8 people that were left in Crank with her but she’s made a alt account and is the sole person left in Crank…she won’t even give me my name back

[modest hound]

C_Joy 🔥 aren't you guys a bunch of old people that play the game, seems pretty petty

[modern fern]

Yes mate we were mostly 50 and over Australians I believe c joys in her 40’s , I’m pretty much over it now anyway .what she has done has shown me who are loyal and who will stab you in the back .

Some of the guys are in their 60’s

[modest hound]

i guess we go nrl now, skipppp wotb

[modern fern]

No idea why he left , I was only chatting with him the other night . I’ve heard a lot of people left because of her but I can’t say for sure , everyone has different reasons on leaving clans

All I know is that 30 of them left Crank and came to the new clan

[modest hound]

ex1le is going pretty stronk tho. why would they have so many members if they knew of the betryal anyway

[modern fern]

Most don’t know her history and our new clan is beating Exile in tournaments so our guys are happy

I let about 8 of them into Crank from dead clans so those 8 followed her all of my loyal clan mates followed me some I’ve know for over 10 years

[modest hound]

you guys don't have anything better to play at your age? like wotb is the last game i'd expect you guys to play

[modern fern]

Tbh I’m actually glad it’s happened because the ones that followed her struggle to play the game , none of them wanted to learn tournament tactics.. lol it’s a great game and I’m very competitive

[modest hound]

no wotpc?

[modern fern]

Nope

[modest hound]

so what keeps you playing over other titles that are somewhat cooler

[modern fern]

I play on a iPad i find it easier , I’ve played on PlayStation but just find ipad less of a hassle . I play mostly at night in bed , started in 2014

[modest hound]

no computer? or do we have country town potato internet

[modern fern]

No I find pc play difficult with all the buttons iPad is just two thumbs . Anyway mate nice chatting it’s almost 2am here need to get too sleep , what’s your ign by the way ?

[modest hound]

can find in #survey-recruitment-old, also 2am lol

[modern fern]

Oh I see a fellow Aussie nice sent you a friend request if you ever want to play in tournaments let me know I save you a spot goodnight mate see you on the battle field

[modest hound]

send disc invite in dm, down to have a bit of fun here and there

[dusky trellis]

I don't wanna make an argue of it, but thats pretty true and sad at the same time 🤦‍♂️

[fallow nymph]

If you get into the habit of using #clan-recruitment regularly, you're bound to find inconsistencies in its moderation.

[spring quiver]

Yeah those inconsistencies are what I care about. No one else wants to risk Banishment™️ to say the Mods are wrong so I’ll just do it myself when I see it. Getting banned is a habit of mine anyways (see profile)

Personally can’t wait to get banned again for a thin reason

[dusky trellis]

<@&481447501690568709>

[quick oxide]

We got 'm.

[stray granite]

Did I understand correctly that once upon a time WG shrunk the size of clans in Blitz? If so, how did they actually execute the act of making the clans smaller?

[shut minnow]

Source?

[stray granite]

I thought here, but it could have been mentioned on another server. It is possible I misunderstood, hence the request for clarification on if it happened and how it was executed.

[stray granite]

Discord searches are dreadful. I'm not finding any info on it. Long time players, did this happen to Blitz clans?

[astral dawn]

Used to be 75 members

[stray granite]

Thanks. How did they do the change? Just drop 25 of your members? Or you just couldn't add new members until you got down to 49 or what?

[shut minnow]

I’ve been here for ages and absolutely don’t remember clans being 75 members 🤔

Like at all

[astral dawn]

it was at the like beta start of the game

in 2014

When it was released as 50 the last 25 that were added to clan were dropped

[quick oxide]

As far as I know it has always been 50, in game, from when clans were added to the game, and any request to raise it ( to help larger veteran clans ) was completely ignored.

Clans were not in the game when released, and only appeared like a year later.

[modern fern]

Been playing since 2014 it’s never been 75

[noble yew]

Clans were added in Update 2.0 with a 50 player maximum.

https://youtu.be/GuAbbjyMUGE?si=-_VIGrwaAiHILA-v

[modern fern]

Yes I’m saying clans were never maxed out at 75

[fallow nymph]

One thing I'm noticing is how little the Clan system seems to have changed since this video announcement from over 8yrs ago. I don't want to be unfair, but it's as if WG implemented Clans then immediately went "And that's taken care of. What's next?".

I've seen a lot of feedback regarding Clans & through small amounts of effort (in my opinion) they could stand to receive some much-desired updates. This channel has featured a ton of these recommendations, including but not limited to (as well as my own):

• Allow the Lead / Deputies to remove messages from the in-game Clan chat.
• Fix that pointless bug where everyone in the Clan is told they're now a Deputy, upon one member receiving the promotion.
• Fix the text editor for Clan descriptions so it's sensible & formats your text like any other straightforward editor would.
• Add a black border around the text for the Clan's mission leaderboards. Many leads routinely reference these to track activity & some profile banners render the numbers difficult to make out.
• Possibly a matter of opinion but - expand on the rank structure? Lead / Deputy is simple enough, but surely many communities could benefit from additional positions? Recruiter, Platoon Leader, Veteran, etc.?

[rich willow]

Better game 100%

[rugged cloud]

adoda_228 was banned.

[rich willow]

1. • Not sure that would really be necessary in-game. In-game censor exists for issues like this already. Of course Discord already does this.
2. • Definitely agree
3. • Definitely agree
4. • I think I know what you mean, would definitely make the two more distinct to click on, considering the current UI mess which this game has.
5. • I understand the idea here but, I will say overcomplicating command structure layout is something to be avoided as much as possible.

[dusky trellis]

Also i would repair the system of invites to clan, its pretty glitchy ngl

[hot arrow]

there are a lot of things to improve about clans, not to mention plenty of bugs, but it doesnt look like priority to wargaming sadly

Im still hoping they will finally change clan camos after all of these years of no changes! Im talking about this basic clan one and these for clan missions.

[noble yew]

For what it's worth, n0_name_just_luck was chatting on the Russian Discord server:
"Are clan changes planned?"

"Planned clan activity changes are unlikely"

[quick oxide]

Could read two different ways, but hopefully they will squash the bugs at least.

[noble yew]

Yep. I used the Safari on line translator and it can miss context. Staff are also careful and often vague when discussing future plans n public.

[orchid knoll]

Another big issue that only some people know is clan leads quitting the game and not transferring power. If the command structure of a clan decides to quit the game, the clan and its tag become unusable. Wargaming does not have anything to address this. Ideally, if a clan lead goes inactive for longer than a year, the game will transfer clan ownership to the deputy who was active the most recently (in the event multiple deps were active, it picks the one with the highest battle count). The cycle continues until there are no leadership options left, then the clan is automatically disbanded. It might seem unfair to the active members, but now they can remake the clan with an active leadership structure.

[noble yew]

MODE went through that process but we only had to wait six months for a deputy to be appointed lead. We were able track down the absent lead in real life and were able to tell support the whole sad story. That may have helped.

[twin cave]

cant get ahold of a lead for a clan about unsporting conduct by thier members? message got deleted

[quick oxide]

After six months of clan lead inactivity, players can appeal through a ticket to replace the commander.

[orchid knoll]

Do you know if you need to be in the clan to submit that ticket?

[quick oxide]

Yes, I would think so, and probably a deputy, if I were to guess. But maybe not.

[plush obsidian]

Hm I did post my clan ad on clan recruitment , I just wanted to know why it's got removed

[fallow nymph]

Did it follow the posting rules?
#clan-recruitment message

If so, I'd recommend pinging the mods to ask why. You're in the right to request transparency, in my opinion.

[shut minnow]

If you have to censor even your own clan’s name then it’s probably not the wisest idea to promote the clan here.

[plush obsidian]

well our clan did it on purpose , it's our creativity to provoke attention Not anger and triggers anyone, we are just wanting attention and our clan name is tourshjtter so

But I would like to know what we have done wrong in our advertisement so that we can fix it

[shut minnow]

I don’t care about the reasons you make up to justify it. Such clan ad is not allowed here.

[plush obsidian]

Ok

[devout moat]

What exactly is not allowed? Is it the censored part on the logo or the format? Because looking at our old ad we've displayed our name in text. And without any context we have to clue on what we have to change to promote our clan. Which is why i directly ask to avoid future issues.

[shut minnow]

And you’re? I’d appreciate if there was one responsible person for clan advertisement and not fifteen different coming at different times. Your whole clan name here is not allowed, I fail to understand what’s so hard to comprehend when it comes to that. Unless your clan name gets changed, or you promote your clan without any mention of the name while also obeying other rules, you won’t be allowed to post.

And while we’re at it, @devout moat remove your about me/bio mentioning you are a S offender.

[devout moat]

So our name Tour Shjtters is invalid? 😵

[shut minnow]

Who would have thought that a name that literally makes you break the rules of this place to bypass the censorship filter would be invalid? 😱😱😱😱

[devout moat]

I see. Now we can work this new ground🫨🥳

[stray granite]

I keep having players show up in my applicants list and they're in another clan. When I click the ✅ they just go away from the list and aren't in my clan. Later, they'll appear back in the applicants list again. Very buggy.

[plush obsidian]

@shut minnow our clan changed our clan name can we now post our ad ?

[visual adder]

how does "Tour Shjtter" break the rules?

[shut minnow]

Changed to what?

[plush obsidian]

Tour Seeker

[shut minnow]

Send me the clan ad in my PMs

[plush obsidian]

ok wait

[kindred cove]

Does anyone want to be a leader of one of our branches?
dm me if you want to talk!
APAC btw (Asia)

[stray granite]

Clan leaders, take the time to test the clan tools in the Open Test and report the bugs.

[rich willow]

Clan tools?

[quartz pumice]

Ahegao pfp

[plush obsidian]

[hot arrow]

Clan tools?

[quick oxide]

Description editing, adding members, promoting members, …

[rich willow]

Can’t test em because wg don’t consider asia a server worth having an opinion

[orchid knoll]

Has it ever been suggested to have players language visible for recruitment? So you don't end up with players you can't even understand. They will join without even reading clan profile.

[rich willow]

You can just turn auto recruiting off? I’m not sure I understand.

[orchid knoll]

Recruiting players with english names and end up with spanish speaking players.

[rich willow]

Oh, I’d contact each player to make sure they can speak the required language first. But I can see a point to what you’re suggesting.

[orchid knoll]

I just started recruiting players on old account to feed my main clan. Out of 44 players only 4 speak english.

With English only as requirement in profile.

[rich willow]

wow

I gather they are all active? That is a bit of a predicament

[orchid knoll]

Seems to me WG could easily list registered language in profile. Would like to say more about what the problem is but I'd be banned most likely. Activity is no problem. Communication different story.

[rich willow]

[fallow sigil]

I think everyone never intrested my clan ._.

[rich willow]

Do you advertise/ actively look for players?

[fallow sigil]

Yeah i did advertise 1 time and i'm looking for active players with Discord account.

[rich willow]

Well, I hope it goes well for you, if you have only just started advertising it may take a little for people to start seeing your post.

if you are not already i'd recommend checking the #clan-search frequently and also if you can the Blitz Post discord server has a recruitment channel which you could also post your advert in.

Additionally I'd keep a lookout in-game for good players and contact em there if they don't have a clan.

[quick oxide]

Growing a clan takes active involvement indeed, and often word of mouth, where people may move from a dormant clan to an active one or one that is known for upstanding player behavior

[fallow sigil]

Can anyone explain that some non-clan players (clanless) joined the active clan fast?

Here is a example:
XX: Looking for an active APAC clan i'm grinding the gold.

X: DM u already.

[fallow sigil]

What is Blitz Post? Can you just give me a link at DM?

[rich willow]

I saw acrisis reached your message, did you get the link?

[fallow sigil]

Nope

[noble yew]

sent it to you - just in case

[rich willow]

Right…

[quick oxide]

Do you have friends only on?

Or who knows?
I sent it shortly after you posted.

[fallow sigil]

I already joined it thanks.

[visual rose]

Anyone how we can rebuild a cw clan which is suffering from inactivity in tournaments. We are active on discord but tournaments are often not enough players ready. With the old team we were ready 5 days a week for tournament. Most of the players sadly don't play anymore and the new ones are not very reliable. They say yes they come to tournament then they dont appear or ragequit after idk 2 bad tourneys a row.

[sterile gazelle]

Sad thing is no one wants to put in the work to be a good team. They just expect to show up and win in any old tank and get pìssed when they face a prepared team

[rich willow]

Real, pain in the —-

[fickle glen]

honestly, i don't envy trying to run tournament teams when your guys have green winrates

i would just stay away from Tier X

seems like unless you have a stacked team full of unicums, you can't win consisently in Tier X QTs/coin tournaments. obviously, that's all you'll get in an actual tournament season as well

you should be able to win consistently in Tier VI or maybe VIII as well as long as you have 7 guys in a voice chat room that are average skilled. just being able to talk on voice is a huge advantage that some teams you'll face won't have

[fallow sigil]

My clan members are leaving without a reason.

[noble yew]

They don’t need a reason. Lives change and what people want from a clan can change too. I DM them sometimes to chat about their reasons, or just to wish them well and let them know they will be welcomed back.

[rich willow]

It’s polite and generally courteous and decent to let the command know why or that you are going to leave the clan.

[loud yoke]

Any clan on eu wants to merge with mine for the clan event ?

[noble yew]

It would be polite, courteous and decent to let leadership know why you are leaving - but players might not take that extra step. If leadership wants to know they will have to ask them.

[fiery stirrup]

Being a former deputy to a clan, I never chased players who left. You don’t deserve to know why people leave its all their choice. You ain’t keeping prisoners these are people who get to pick for themselves. But if people wana stay around then yeah it would be polite for them to say why there dipping.

[rich willow]

Lol, asking someone why they left and also letting people know why you choose to no longer be a part of a clan doesn’t = lack of free will and prisoner.

It may actually teach you about what some people want from a clan so you can improve and it’s generally just polite to let people know that you’re leaving in the first place.

It’s like walking out of a mates place without saying goodbye or I have to go. If that makes sense.

[stray granite]

Guys, I posted this in the clan-event-discussion channel on behalf of the clan leads:

`WG Staff it would be better for the community if clan leaders could advertise in clan-recruitment every 24h (instead of 168h) during the clan event. Some clans still need players and some players are searching for clans, but the ads in that channel are up to a week old. Your 168 hour rule makes it too hard for players to go through all the ads and check every clan for the last week to see if they still have openings.

👉 Players need a fresh list of who has openings today during the event. 👈 `

I'm posting it here so you guys will see my request, since it will probably fly off the top with all the important discussions of which tank is better. If you feel this is important to your clan, feel free to copy and paste mine or write your own.

[shut minnow]

No

[orchid knoll]

Just edit player number or something in ad. Moves ad to the day edited. Without cluttering up with repeat msgs.

[stray granite]

Are the mods okay with that? That's kind of like deleting your old message and reposting. I've always just posted and waited 7 days without touching it to avoid getting in trouble.

[orchid knoll]

I just updated mine with numbers and it moved it to day of edit.

[stray granite]

Um, check that with another user's account. The last post I see from you is 05/04. It does say edited, but it still appears before ads from 5/5. (it's not shown today)

This is where your latest shows up for me (before the 2 5/5 ads):

[orchid knoll]

I spoke wrong i didn't edit it today. Let me update and see what happens. Something changed or I'm going crazy. Crazy more likely or Meds I guess. Getting to old even more so. Liked to never found my post because I was looking back to early a date. Still only 1 member joined from discord. Maybe an established well known clan will have better chance of getting decent players from discord.

[rugged cloud]

tanag5419 was banned.

[quick oxide]

Older established clans may have the advantage of name recognition for sure; with name recognition comes some familiarity and people perhaps wanting to join. For younger clans ... just takes time and effort. There is no magic bullet or pill. You can only try to post your advert weekly, and then see if someboy may be interested by keeping an eye on clan-search. Whether on the old forum or discord, it takes some time and luck.

At one point with some friends we debated creating our own clan or joining an established one, and we joined an established clan.

If it has a similar group of people, and principles you like; I did not feel like reinventing the wheel and starting from scratch and spending tons of time recruiting; to get the member count up ... or potentially dealing with random join/leaves and people causing trouble.

[spring quiver]

The magic pill (if any) is competitive achievements. Some clans grow overnight after placing well in any competitive season

[quick oxide]

Good point. A good amount of clan building and certainly name recognition can come from the competitive side. I don't know how " durable " the recruits are or if they would be prone to clan jump or maybe cause drama. But, if the team gels ... and achievements are made, then that's great advertising for sure.
I'm just more used to the " old school " clan side 🙂

[fallow nymph]

It's absolutely a slog to start something from nothing in this community. I probably wouldn't do it again as I was very lucky to find solid people early on to help in the endeavor. For what it's worth from my perspective, I think the key is simply to actually care about your community rather than the top priority being certain metrics on blitzstars or competitive achievements.

Actually hangout with your people & play blitz together. Venture out into different games - create a circle. Running a Clan easily requires as much involvement as a part-time job, but the people which become invested can make it worthwhile.

[languid ivy]

it's not worthy rn, the recruitement is very low and there is very high competitivness even for mid players, not counting they have abnorm egos,the only thing i can suggest you is inviting the casual players from the prefmm into your clan and grow slowly, and don't trust a lot of other clans, lots of them are jackals spamming your clan members and trying to convince them in leaving your clan(happened to me), start being casual but be ready to someday be disappointed and ready to leave everything for the good

[boreal epoch]

It's like a cursed circle. Can't grow a clan because all already existing clans steal all the players. Why join a new clan when you can join an almost full one.

[echo gulch]

you just gotta figure out how to make your clan worth joining 🙂

[frosty sigil]

I've people in my friends list and clan saying the GAME FIXING of the heavily BIASED Match Maker is making them think of bad things!

54.49 - 46.00 - 58.70 - 50.06 - 48.15 - 50.05 - 43.54 = 340.99 / 7 = 48.71% Av. DEFEATED
59.89 - 59.22 - 52.81 - 51.01 - 53.54 - 46.53 - 47.26 = 370.26 / 7 = 52.89% Av. VICTORY

Same story all over MM is weighted for high % player all on one team... Proven time over with messages to WG who lie.
10 Years in game... I have a 46% 10 year account and 2 others - 76% and 80%+ both of these almost NEVER lose a battle - (80% is 6 years old).

[noble yew]

Since the topic here is what clan leaders can do to solve problems:

As a clan leader I’d explain that the MM used in Update 10.7 balanced teams based on factors such as winrate - BUT the MM in 10.8 does not. When factors such as winrate are not included in balancing, the result can be unbalanced team winrates.

Then I’d try to help them with adaptability - changing their tactics to get the most out of every situation. To paraphrase a US Secretary of Defense “You don’t go into battle with the team you want. You go into battle with the team you have.”

(And after the battle we’d both complain about the team anyway).

[sterile gazelle]

I strongly disagree with that assertion. I’m a 60% player that constantly gets teammates in low to mid 40s. The odd time I get a 52% teammate. So while you may have that happen on occasion is certainly isn’t the norm.

[median cliff]

This sentence (of the us secretary od defense) is very cool, i highly agree

[languid ivy]

this is true, but some players are easy manipolable and they will join in a less worthy clan beliving in lies told by the other recruiters, when i had a clan luckly only semi active players or inactive players did this, but i remember other clans with lower amount of stats, less active community that kept spamming to my players in game

[quick oxide]

Poaching happens, but building strong bonds by being frequent platoon mates and online friends foils poachers.

[fickle glen]

lie back to recruits ☝️ 🗨️ 🗣️ 💯 ‼️

im joking. don't do that

[dire wagon]

Talk about Poachers...

[fallow nymph]

You're really good at keeping enemies with people you don't need to have any interaction with whatsoever. It's a shame.

Anyway, memorial day is coming up. Have a good weekend of remembrance💪

[dire wagon]

No "enemies" ...just FACT/ TRUTH! You a SHAM! 🫡

[fallow nymph]

Why did you add a salute to your own message lol

I'll click it if that makes you feel better 🤝

[shut minnow]

Talk about adding emojis to your own message 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fallow nymph]

Oop, looks like the moderator is back to moderating with questionable conduct.

I would argue adding reactions under an advertisement in a templated fashion (like the advert itself) for your clanmates to follow suit is a little different than choosing an affirming emoji for your own message in an attempt to reach for superficial public support because you're not confident your argument can stand on its own merits, but I digress.

[shut minnow]

Thanks for the giggles

[charred halo]

Nellis stirring stuff up as usual lol. Still my favourite old man

[noble yew]

I didn’t know there was a contest, but I’m plenty old. Any prizes?😂

[dire wagon]

Not stirring anything...just setting the record straight...must have "struck a nerve"

[charred halo]

Discount at cracker barrel

[violet birch]

I'd like to think that calling people out in a public server is indeed "stirring stuff up" but hey, what do I know?

Literally grow up.

[fallow nymph]

Are you really setting the record straight, or are you just lashing out with untethered resentment?

Do you have any evidence of this poaching?

[shut minnow]

Calm down if you don’t want to get muted.

@dire wagon And you drop it as well please

Or take it into your DMs

[stray granite]

We're in the middle of the last week of the clan event. You probably brought in some new members to your clan for the event. If everything is going well for you with the new folks, it's a good time to send out a message letting them know you hope they will stay on after the clan event is over.

[next atlas]

Stop being such a boomer

[fallow nymph]

Momma always told me I was an old soul.

[rugged cloud]

kemilmaster was banned.

[modest hound]

Sigyn clan called out 👀

[rich willow]

The stupidest thing to do in this situation is to judge an entire clan based upon 1 members stupid behaviour.

[fallow nymph]

For anyone who knows what this is about - I issued a statement on our server regarding this person's actions but to state the obvious we don't condone the behavior & their conduct isn't reminiscent of our community as a whole. By-and-large those of us in SIGYN care about maintaining a respectable Clan, but some bad faith actors slip through the cracks at times. Unfortunately, unhinged toxicity is not a strange thing among this playerbase but to see it from our Clan is particularly notable as we try very hard to be diligent about holding ourselves to a higher standard.

This case was especially egregious with the comments that were made, and we take it very seriously. I feel shame for how this player represented us, and they were promptly removed from our roster / Discord once we became aware of their actions.

That's all I'll say on the matter here. If you have any questions / concerns feel free to DM me or hit us up on our Discord (link in bio). Not everything has to be sensationalized via a public channel meant for more productive conversations 🙂

[vocal grail]

Wonder if clans actually find members by ads

[stray granite]

Yes. I used to hunt for players in game. Now days (nearly) all our players come from the weekly ads or from referrals.

[rich willow]

Yes

[stoic agate]

ok

[hot arrow]

<@&481447501690568709>

[vast rapids]

Quick question: I've noticed that alot of players on the European server have tanker names that start with " player_ ( followed by a bunch of numbers). Why is this? Have several in my clan. Or am I not understanding something.

[shut minnow]

I believe it’s a nickname you’re given when you create your account and you don’t set one for yourself.

Something like you login using Facebook, then you convert your account to WG but your nickname is the default ie player_737282

And some people also do it on purpose, not to get focused.

In case the nickname is renamed_ etc it has been renamed by the support Center.

[vast rapids]

Right, but I wonder why folks don't make a bew name. The renamed user thing I'm very familiar with...3 times worth actually.

New* name.

I had to stop recruiting players with default names. Too many in clan to know who is who, what languages they speak etc.

[stray granite]

For one it costs 2500 gold to rename your account and so many players... well you know.

We have a rule for our recruiting that we will not accept anyone named player. As a clan you are forming a family and not knowing your members because of their name is a hindrance. Additionally, I have noticed it shows a lack of commitment to the game and the player named accounts just never do much.

Imagine Bushka trying to announce a finals tournament and distinguishing between player_47359812 and player_49273512. 😂

[shut minnow]

It’s actually free the first time

So the price argument is invalid in most of the cases

[shut minnow]

They simply can’t be bothered. The same reason they have 40WR, they just don’t care.

That’s all

[vast rapids]

Great point. I kept the first few straight by remembering just their 1st 3 numbers. Pretty easy until I had about 6 of them, then one would leave clan, a different one would join. 1st guy would come back , two would joun, one would leave. Only 2 of them spoke my language. Etc, etc etc.. you know .
Thought of having a clan contest " Name that Player". Giving prizes to both an accepting player and person who offed name.

[stray granite]

Maybe it used to be free? My friend's kid started with a poorly chosen name and I gave him a gift card so he could buy gold to get a new name, which he did. He didn't get a free name change. It cost him 2500g the 1st time.

Or maybe it's free to go from player-number to a "real" name the 1st time? My friend's kid wasn't a player-number.

[shut minnow]

It’s free in case you didn’t have a chance to pick a name in the first place.

Of course in case you got yourself something silly and then wanted to change it it wouldn’t be free

[quick oxide]

If it contains something personally identifiable, perhaps a Support Ticket can help. Not sure though.

But for something silly / goofy .. yeah going to have to spend the gold.

[shut minnow]

I don’t see it as an issue to be fair, our clan doesn’t use the in game chat at all. We run a discord server and everybody has a nickname there, which doesn’t necessarily translate to the exact same in game but still. You get to know your people and at that point it doesn’t matter what in game name they actually run.

[stray granite]

We mandate your IGN and your discord handle must be the same on our server. That way you know who to send invites to. None of the who is this? Who is that?
(makes it easier in voice chat and in tournaments too)

[shut minnow]

You do you. Our guys are actually active and so you don’t need to be a dictator in order to play with them…

[stray granite]

Making it easy for everyone to know each other somehow indicates we aren't active. Okay.

[sterile gazelle]

Actually many clans require your IGN be the same as your Discord name. Doesn’t have anything to be with being a dictator at all. That’s quite a judgement statement to make about someone you probably have never really talked to. Must be easy to hide behind your moderator role and make those. I’m sure if someone other than a mod made it the message would have been deleted and they would have maybe even been banned.

[shut minnow]

🤣🤣🤣

Okay guys it’s not that deep

[fallow nymph]

Are the other mods fine with you representing them in this way, repeatedly instigating situations for no apparent reason?

[modest hound]

most devious channel in all of wotb

[lament gust]

For those who make a recruitment post how are yall making them look fancy. With the bullet points and enlarged headings and stuff?

[stray granite]

Title

is made with 1 pound sign, a space, and a title with a shift enter (on PC)

Smaller heading

is made with 2 pounds a space and your words

Bold slightly larger

is 3 pounds, a space and your words
Discord makes bullets easy

• put a star (asterisk), space, and your point 1
• put another star, space, and your next point...
  Then a few, but not too many emoticons in the right place will dress it up a bit too and make it interesting for the reader

[lament gust]

Thanks a lot 👍

[stray granite]

Use an unused channel or alt server and test your message. Once you get it the way you like, do Edit on your message, and copy and paste it just like you see it. Don't try to copy it right off the screen as it will lose its formatting.

Last tip I can think of is to check your message in light mode and dark mode, especially if you have a picture in it. Everyone doesn't use the same color mode, so it is sometimes surprising to see what doesn't work when you change. The point is to make it look good to as big of an audience as possible.

[lament gust]

Ok I see thanks

[fallow nymph]

@lament gust Everything Pain said is great advice, and you can also right-click / long-tap your drafted message & select "Copy Text" to paste elsewhere. You'll preserve all the formatting plus it's a bit easier & negates the possibility of you accidentally not highlighting portions of it.

You can underline text by surrounding it with pairs of "__", and also italicize by putting one asterisk either side of the text. These are both helpful to make certain points pop but imo you don't want to overdo it, otherwise things can look a bit too busy.

[lament gust]

Thank you 🙂

[fickle glen]

ive never required my clanmates to have their IGNs and nicknames lined up on our clan discord

i do enough IGN-nickname herding here to last a lifetime

we all know who we are

ofc clans are free to have their own rules on their clan discords. ive just never seen that as being necessary. our clan is very casual and laid back. we are casual because we play a video game together. we may take our matches seriously in-game, but its still very much a thing of entertainment

[sterile gazelle]

On some of the clan servers that have large public memberships it’s pretty imperative to be able to identify who’s who in the zoo. I’m not sure if there many of those left (other than Triarii) but 6-7 years ago it wasn’t uncommon to have 500+ people on a clan server

[noble yew]

FWIW, I accidentally set up an alt account on my tablet. . I believe it’s a demo account and it has a Player ######### username. The support website says this about demo accounts: “The nickname for the demo account is created automatically, and it cannot be changed without linking to the Wargaming.net ID or to a social media.”

I’ve never tried but linking to a WG ID/platform is probably where you pick a name anyway and where the change would be free. (It’s been a long time since I did that).

[fickle glen]

we have 2000 members on our clan server

specifically 2277 members

[stray granite]

Hey, @lament gust were you here a few months ago when _34 was talking about doing recruiting using training rooms? Basically, he suggested setting up a TR and hanging out there to meet & greet potential players. We've never done it for our clan, but he said it has worked for him in the past.

[lament gust]

Yh I plan on doing that today

Thanks

[wraith oar]

Sounds like a good idea, I might also try this.

[radiant oasis]

This is a good strategy but only for clans with low/mid requirements because for 60%+ clans its not rly working

[stray granite]

It's not my idea, I just repeated it to be helpful. The guy who mentioned it was _34 and he's the commander of Apex (65.59%).

[radiant oasis]

i know its not your idea but just saying if anyone would try to do that for higher grade clans that most likely its not gonna work

[echo gulch]

you're right, there aren't really a lot of higher level players that go around hunting for training rooms. higher level clans are able to pull members through connections, or simply by being well known. which means less outreach is required. good players usually know what the good clans are, and apply

but, if you're lesser known, starting a new clan, and want to form a good community, i've seen that training rooms are a good way to get to know potential members & introduce yourself

[wraith oar]

Ahem, I have a question, how do you do to not get the players stolen by other clans when you are recruiting them?

[quick oxide]

As in, you are still talking to a player, but other clan leads or recruiters are “ butting in “ and the player decides to go elsewhere?

I guess there is no way to prevent that, if your clan may have some requirements, want to look at their profile on blitzstars, …

And another clan is wide-open

[stray granite]

It happens, it stinks, and there is nothing you can do about it. Just move on. Sometimes send a DM note like we'd like to have you, so if it doesn't work out with XYZ, give us a try. Or something like that to help set you apart from the crowd of recruiters who contacted them.

[wraith oar]

Well, thanks for the advice, I'm stiil new to this kind of stuff. Toast gave me a chance to be in what I call a trial before taking the lead of the clan if everything goes well.

[noble yacht]

wassup guys

[stoic agate]

hello

[wary elk]

does anyone know what the trophy is? 💀

[shut minnow]

For hall of fame records

Meaning if you’re top one you get the “golden” trophy

[wary elk]

huh
yeah but how do people earn points and trophies

[shut minnow]

Well I suppose each trophy awards you points?

Although it’s irrelevant either way

And you earn those trophies by submitting record plays

[wary elk]

aahh i see

[fickle glen]

everything has to be manually sent in

which means that the Blitzstars hall of fame has no basis of reality

[noble yacht]

what is the golden trophy

[shut minnow]

For being top one in terms of damage dealt

[noble yacht]

ok but what do i do with it or its just a trophy

[shut minnow]

It doesn’t mean anything. It’s not even connected to the game, it’s just on the website which is third party

You can create your own website and award yourself a golden trophy too and it will have the same effect

[noble yacht]

OK

[quick bane]

Looking for sparring

[stoic agate]

That's terrific cupcake

[fallow nymph]

<@&481447501690568709>

[proven imp]

Hello

My Blitz name is GIJosiah2.0, and I’m a clan leader

I’m still new to the whole thing, and would love any advice you can give me on how to improve and grow my clan.

I also have big plans in mind for when my clan takes off

That I’d like to share with anyone willing to take part.

But for right now I’m just trying to get more active members, and build my clan up into a community

Currently, the number of members is 21/50, but we need more men

[proven imp]

Also a tier6 supply

[quick oxide]

You can try posting an advert in #clan-recruitment
See pinned rules in that channel, like 1x / week ( 7d / 168h apart ))

Have a look at some of the other nice adverts for some inspiration 🙂

[proven imp]

Thank you I will, appreciate the help

[gusty coral]

Hey! Pay attention to the free-clan players in battles you’ve played. Send them application.

[proven imp]

Thank you very much SASHA_SPIRT, very kind of you

[grave dove]

@proven imp I encourage your members to use discord to platoon with each other. Get to know each other and develop friendships by talking with each other

[proven imp]

I’m working on that, making a clan server, and mandatory meet-ups

[zenith parrot]

Another good way to gets lots of members?

[visual rose]

@proven imp never give non clan leaders any power to decide something

[unborn pecan]

To be really honest, people getting legitimate high damage are usually people who know what they're doing and are susceptible to know about the HoF and thus submit there.
But it is true that the records shown aren't relevant for any searches, so no conclusions must be made from the HoF

[proven imp]

Ye

[stray granite]

Lots of members, or quality members? If you just want lots of members, you can change your settings to allow anyone to join without approval. Regardless of your goal, you need to put together a good clan ad and post it every week in #clan-recruitment. Think about what differentiates your clan from others and convey that to prospective members. Look at other ads and draw inspiration from them.

• Is your clan a chill clan that hangs out in chat and does silly stuff in training rooms?
• Are you a grinder clan who works on completing missions every week for maximum benefits?
• Are you a tournament clan who has scheduled map strategy and practice drills every week?
  Think about these differences and make sure your advertisement has a clear message on what your clan is about. Also, you or one of your deputies needs to be a recruiter and always be recruiting. Set limits and kick out members who aren't keeping up. People quit the game all the time and if you don't track your players' contributions, you will find yourself with a clan full or non-players very quickly.

[zenith parrot]

Sort of both

A Community Section with Lots of members
A Comp sections with lots of Tournament members

[stray granite]

If I may, I would suggest focusing on your community first, and work toward the tournament goal. A building needs a strong foundation. Tournament clans are not easy to build from scratch and are usually formed from other tournament clans.

[zenith parrot]

oh ok

[chilly echo]

Approach the members that needs clan dont make them approach you
Ex: in clan search if u see a guy that needs a clan dont say DM me instead DM him and say "I dm u already please respond thanks!"

Just an example and that what i did and i have 40+ active members now

[visual rose]

I saw too many clans going down because of no leadership

[rich willow]

Does anyone know of or have a link to the EU Community run Clan Wars/eSports server by any chance?

I’ve been trying to get hold of a link for a while now.

Regards.

[visual rose]

@rich willow you mean the training server?

[rich willow]

I heard there was a server for eSports/ Clan wars for eu, like Clan Wars Asia but for eu.

[visual rose]

I only know the server to find a cw training partner/players for cw team for EU Server

[rich willow]

Np, thanks for that. I got your dm.

[vast rapids]

Quick question.. I'm kicking a player out of clan permanently for the first time. Under clan icon-members list I can " remove" him. However. I don't want to remove him as a friend yet. If I push that button will it remove him from my friends as well as the clan?

[stray granite]

No, it will remove him from the clan, but he will not be removed as a friend. I have several "friends" who show up in my friends list who were kicked from the clan for inactivity.

[vast rapids]

Thank you.

[noble yacht]

searching for allies

[unborn idol]

any clan here that looking for friendship and that only ? feel free to dm me and i'll invite you to my clan's discord server so we can communicate with each other's members !

[sand tartan]

See dm

[rich willow]

All good, thank you though. Much appreciated.

[main fulcrum]

Can you dm me it too please, much appreciated

[sand tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/i-accept-bribes-charlie-secret-headquarters-i-accept-payments-i-accept-payoff-gif-26484733

[shut minnow]

@fallow nymph No mention of any bonuses, rewards or prizes is allowed. Pay attention to the rules please.

[fallow nymph]

Thanks for reading through my post with such care. I'm glad to see the channel is receiving the attention it deserves.

The rules specifically state "raffle prizes," which our advert made no mention of. We also never said anything about sign-on bonuses. What was mentioned (verbatim below) is the simple fact that we host community tournaments, the last of which featuring "a prize pool" sponsored by WG. No mention of game items, virtual currency, real money, or physical items was made. Seems like the two "etc" under the posted rules are doing the heavy-lifting in this case.

It also seems to me that the spirit of this rule is to prevent "Hey, join us & you might get gold or a free tank" adverts, which is understandable. So, am I correct in understanding our advert was in violation of "etc.", and do you have any suggestions for how the verbiage could be changed to match your preferences?

[rugged cloud]

mazemune was banned.

ghostrecn was banned.

grc_1138 was banned.

danielamar12345 was banned.

[fallow nymph]

Insulting others via emoji reactions is a ban-worthy offense now? Pretty shaky precedent considering mods (plural) of this server are in the habit of employing the exact same tactic. Identical emojis have even been used that were below End's comment above. Here's a few examples, but I'm sure there's plenty more:

• #clan-leadership message

• #clan-leadership message

• #clan-leadership message

• #clan-leadership message

• #clan-leadership message
  But I digress. I understand there are some above the rules.

@quick oxide you've stuck out to me as a mod who's mostly upstanding & mature. Since one of our adverts was deleted, yet again, and clarification is not being provided for exactly how it broke the rules, could I DM you our ad each week for review prior to me posting it on Mondays? It seems to me this simple arrangement could save all of us a bunch of trouble, as nobody should have any legitimate reason to remove something which has already been approved.

And I'll gladly explain why this is actually pretty important. SIGYN adverts have been subject to disappearing reactions, random deletions that supposedly no mod was responsible for, and instances of removal due to "breaking rules", yet simple clarification as to how was difficult to articulate. Kinda like now. In my opinion, this is due to deliberate targeting. If there's even a chance I'm correct & we are in fact being targeted, that should be treated with the seriousness it deserves as I belong to a community who would be actively harmed by these supposed baseless actions. The other players in our community have no quarrel with any of you & we have a right to advertise, just like any other Clan.

I could not possibly care less if End despises me along with every other mod. That is not my concern. I just want to be left alone & allowed to use this server alongside like-minded Leads for the betterment of my community in peace. So acrisis, will you please help me in (hopefully) providing a solution to these issues by agreeing to commit ~5mins of your week to review our ad prior to posting?

[stray granite]

It is shameful how WG staff turns a blind eye to one person who violates server rules 1, 3, and 4 time and time again with no action. If someone blatantly and repeatedly violated the rules on my server or in my Blitz clan like this they would be kicked and dismissed.

[rugged cloud]

dolb0y0b was muted.

[quick oxide]

After internal deliberation, the following rule for clan advertising has been clarified:

[stray granite]

Thanks mods for the clarification. We appreciate your time and efforts on this.

@solid vortex on the pin:
It didn't pin right in the pin bar, but I'm not sure we need it posted in the leadership channel since it was posted in #clan-recruitment .
(thanks _34)

[echo gulch]

looks like the #clan-recruitment message message has been updated to reflect the changes

[quick oxide]

He probably did not expect me to have typed it in two messages. My bad. I typed the line and then drag and dropped the image.
And, yes, the pinned message for rules in the recruitment was updated.

[stray granite]

You guys with tourney clans, how did you find your caller/coach/strategist? We have a lot of raw talent and skill, but that means nothing without discipline, organization, and strategy. I'm curious if you guys recruited your callers, promoted from within, or what?

[forest oriole]

1 thing I can tell, is it depends. Since I have been a caller, I mostly teach my players. When it comes to clans, who dont have such callers, coaches etc, should be looking for a player, who understands, what he is doing and with experience ofc
Host daily trainings also. That should do smth ( take it serious, and look for mistakes and fix them )

[noble yacht]

What is going on

[fallow nymph]

You just need to find someone with the interest. Anyone who's already a competent Caller will likely look to join the higher-tier Clans from a statistical perspective. I made that realization pretty early on.

A good Caller (in my opinion) isn't just a person that likes to be in charge & enjoys telling people what to do. They should be invested in the game & always eager to learn more. Watching the comp streams from an educational perspective, working on strats regularly, scrimming against other teams, etc. If anyone in your Clan has the interest, that can be built upon & it's what I'd recommend.

Another thing you can do is look for advisors to help out. Some are open to doing that.

[noble yacht]

What is that caller thats new i never heard about that

[fallow nymph]

The 'Caller' is usually the person in the VC that coordinates the battle plan during tourney matches & gives the team the plan for what they'd like to do. Most teams adopt the concept.

[forest oriole]

Caller is the one who, coordinates everything in tournaments. Pretty much important person

[noble yacht]

Thx for explaining

[simple kernel]

U got a couple explanations but i like to throw my 2 cents in. The caller is the person whole has experience and comes up with strats based on that experience and map knowledge. They then call the strats they have created or had help creating to create a 1 mind organized front. Think hive mind with 1 voice.

This is different then a captain though sometimes the caller does both roles. The captain helps set teams up for tournies in registeration and helping make sure people are were they need to be. That captain could also be representing the team's interest when it comes to leadership decisions.

Obviously these 2 roles are split to share work load.
It also should be noted that it is quite common the captain and/or the caller are deputies or clan lead as it is hard to find dedicated people who have knowledge and are good at leading to to do all leadership positions so double duty is taken

[simple kernel]

That is a hard task. Finding some one who has all the necessary experience and mechanical skill and awareness is difficult. Experience can be earned the hard way but whether u have experience or not takes dedication.

Someone can learn to call by doing it and learning from errors. It helps to have others to get second opinions though as just having more eyes helps. This is even more valuable if that second opinion has caller experience themselves. This is were making friendly with other people helps. You can ask others callers for help in seeing errors u maybe making. Not every error is dry cut and straight forward. I have 2900 tourny battles and an uncountable number of hours in training rooms and even i make errors.

[noble yacht]

Thats sooooooooo big

[simple kernel]

Amount of text?

[noble yacht]

999 word

[simple kernel]

Just trying to be complete and help out

[noble yacht]

Thanks but..... Thats big i will take so long to read

[stray granite]

Please don't complain about complete answers. If it's too long, then ignore it. You're distracting from the conversation. I, for one, would like as much information as possible.

[noble yacht]

ah ok

[daring juniper]

the second paragraph is also true for players though, if caller is the only one who is invested the team wont progress

[fallow nymph]

Of course. But I was just speaking to the Caller since Pain was asking about that specifically.

[sterile rain]

hello everyone, i just got promote to clan leader 4sr but i know nothing about managing a clan. wat should i do ?

[stray granite]

LEAVE! 🤣 JK

If things are working in your clan, keep doing the things the previous guys were doing and start adding your own flair. Keep the momentum up, because it's hard to get it going again if things go flat.

If things aren't working, start some interesting activities, try to engage your members in whatever it is your clan does (tourneys, grinding, chilling in rooms, etc.).

I recommend tracking your members, kicking inactives, and constantly recruiting. Also, try to get a few deputies you can depend on to help spread the work load.

[prisma nacelle]

Pain and sufferings I complete missions and event . Would appreciate u accept my application

[visual rose]

The best caller i ever had was @solar sage

[solar sage]

👀

[dire wagon]

Speaking from experience...Beware of recruiting your tournament leaders/callers ~ opens door for poachers! I entrusted what I thought would be a loyal person (because of being in the military), we worked together to build a good team...the minute 7-10 members were formed he rebelled and started his own clan! Trust no one!

[twin hull]

isnt that normal?

when better player see no potential in the clan he just make or find better like a leader of the clan you need to take care if your players are feeling well enough to stay

[languid ivy]

usually those clans dies less than a month....

[twin hull]

cuz leader cant do its job properly, my clan was made in same way and its there for a year

[languid ivy]

well ofc, speaking as an old clans owner, you can't just put randomly there, you have to put a friend or someone that built the clan togheter with you, someone now ofc will say, what if he isn't a good player? thiss isn't a problem, because everything comes with experience, and as 99% of us here owned/owns an mid level clan nobody expects you to win every single tournament, it's the dedication behind, the frenquency and how you, as a leader are willing to sacrifice your time to improve togheter with your team and bond togheter with the team members

[languid ivy]

i said usually, because lots of those "people" just takes advantage or doesn't know how to handle just a small task, and not everyone is in the position to provide everything from the start.... not having patiance will just give lots of risks

[dire wagon]

Exactly.... if you can't even trust your "military brother", who can you trust?... just saying better to promote from within! Leadership must be earned, not given... To answer the original question, PainNSuffering [RTHUN] — 07/15/2024 3:08 PM
You guys with tourney clans, how did you find your caller/coach/strategist? We have a lot of raw talent and skill, but that means nothing without discipline, organization, and strategy. I'm curious if you guys recruited your callers, promoted from within, or what? ... like anything, you must put in the time and effort and things will get better...

[stray granite]

Wrong channel. Not a clan issue.

This is a clan leaders channel. We discuss clan problems and work on solutions. We do not discuss general player issues here. Please obey the channel rules.

[plush grove]

What does this clock symbol actually mean in the clan members list? it doesn't seem accurate to anything I can figure out.

[fallow nymph]

I'm pretty sure it correlates to the last time that member played the game. I do not know if training rooms, game modes, and QTs count. Those don't show on blitzstars but the game might treat it differently.

[plush grove]

I have a member who is showing the date "5/22/24 (long ago)" except he has 37 clan honors this week and 2 clan platoons done. So it's impossible that was the last date he played, right? another showing weeks ago, but they also have clan mission honors done this week. etc... maybe it's just buggy?

[fallow nymph]

Could be buggy, or maybe it does only track normal public matches. You can earn honors in gamemodes but those battles don't show up on blitzstars, for instance.

You can use the website to cross-reference. If their 'last played' dates match between blitzstars / in-game, that'd answer it.

[plush grove]

Ya I checked on blitzstars and that could be it. his last game there is May 22. Thanks for the help! thats's why I track honors every week and not the date (I guess it's kind of useless for clan management).

[echo gulch]

i believe ratings are also included in the determination of this date

[noble yew]

I’m pretty sure it’s just counting regular battles. It always matches my last regular/ratings battle. That means it isn’t that useful for judging a members activity level.

[fallow nymph]

Possibly. I'm not sure what exactly counts towards that date. I hardly reference it myself, we instead just look at honor points & toons per week.

[quick oxide]

The clan recruiting channel rules have been updated regarding invite links:

Invites
❗ " live " clickable links to other servers, services or apps are NOT allowed. 👈
Only use the " server code "
Discord example = https :// discord.gg / LeTTeRS => so just use the " LeTTeRS "
Same for other services.
Or simply have the link in your Discord profile.

Most clans use discord, but apparently some clans use other sites or apps or services; and the same no live link rule applies to them.

[limpid pasture]

This means he is only playing rating battles, fun game modes, and/or tournaments. With how the system is right now it only counts regular supremacy or encounter battles towards the clan activity tracker even though it allows them to complete missions in all of the mentioned modes of the game.

[visual rose]

Like my Clanleader. it says last battle played like 2023. He is only playing gamemode. edit: ex clan leader i switched clans

[limpid pasture]

<@&481447501690568709>

[zealous rune]

Guys, can we create a clan without using a discordn

[misty oxide]

Of course you can but it wouldn't have a easy clan menegement

[stray granite]

It more than doubles the work to have a clan Discord server to manage as well as the clan itself. But it's almost a necessity these days. I wish the in game clan stuff (like chat and membership stuff) could connect to Discord through an API. That would be helpful. Anyway, maybe you can delegate some Discord responsibilities to a trusted clan member.

[zealous rune]

Ohh alr thx

[stray granite]

Clan leaders and recruiters, if you're keeping your clan at 50, there appears to be no waiting list anymore.

A couple years ago, I had the clan at 50 and there were 100 in the waiting list (ah, the good ole days when there were plenty of players). For a long time, I kept the clan at 48 so I always had room to onboard. Recently, we've been full and I've had probably 6 people tell me on Discord they applied in game. However, they never showed up on an applicants list.

Each time, after I kicked someone, they had to reapply, and then they would show up on the waiting list.

[stray granite]

To test, I used an alt account and sent my clan an application. The UI said, "Application Sent". I changed back to PainNSuffering, and it shows no applications and no waiting list.

[simple kernel]

I didnt even know that was a thing

[spring quiver]

Another reason WG needs to revamp the clan system (and fix the bugs)

[limpid pasture]

So basically if you have your clan completely full (50/50) it will allow players to send an application in-game but it’ll never show for clan command?

[stray granite]

Exactly

[limpid pasture]

Got it, good to know, thanks. It’ll still show if it’s 49 or below right?

[simple kernel]

Yes

[vocal grail]

Improvments and bugfixes needed for applicant handling: remove applicants from apply list who already found a clan. Show date when applicant last time played. Mark new applicants with a dot so you immediately can see the new ones when opening game. Thanks.

[rich willow]

Real, the clan interface is buggy as hell atm. Got clan members no longer in the clan still showing up in the chat tab, when I promote people it sends the promotion message to everyone, join leave logs are inconsistent. Formatting the clan description is a pain and still hasn’t been fixed. Can they do a single thing properly in full anymore??

[vocal grail]

Add: clan tournament history missing, showing only one year (bug reported long ago).

[rich willow]

Oh that’s right, also whenever someone leaves the clan that has participated in clan supply, you no longer see them come up in the list of lads who ground it in the first place.

[stray granite]

We need a list

Then several of us send the same list of problems through support to get it on radar. And/or several of us post it in the next open test so we can actually get the problem list to developers. Sometimes I think that things we need fixed are filtered out before they get to the devs because fixing the problems won't make WG any money.
(but it doesn't negate the fact that these bugs NEED to be fixed)

[vocal grail]

Maybe the devs wait for the new engine, which is supposed to solve a lot

[stray granite]

I doubt the graphics engine and the clan management are related

[visual rose]

If the new engine doesn't bring gunmarks imma leave the game

[quick oxide]

😒

MOE have nothing to do with clan management.

And I think the first thing to expect is pretty much feature parity with current options in the game.

While hopefully also addressing some longstanding short comings, bugs and some small feature requests.

[cedar sandal]

it's not their priority, WG is busy selling copy/paste tier8s for 100 euros instead of fixing, improving the clans

[shut minnow]

I think they are already coming to LESTA blitz

[stray granite]

Clan BUGS (last update 2024-08-21):

• When a clan has 50 members, applications are not received. There is no waiting list on full clans anymore.
• When deputies are promoted or demoted, it sends the promotion/demotion message to everyone in the clan telling them that THEY are the one who was promoted/demoted.
• Clan description lacks basic formatting tools on most platforms. Clan description cannot be updated and often has to be completely retyped even for simple edits.
• Clan members no longer in the clan sometimes still appear in the chat tab.
• The join/leave logs are inconsistent and disappear.
• Clan tournament history is missing, showing only one year.
• When a member leaves the clan who participated in the clan supply grind contribution, they are no longer listed as a participant.

Needed clan improvements (last update 2024-08-22):

• A clan API pull, CSV, or spreadsheet so leaders/deputies can track player performance and participation without having to physically re-type or write down the information from the leader board every week.
• More ranks than just commander and deputy with different privileges like recruiter and moderator for example.
• Two commanders or a backup commander for when someone quits the game, is banned, dies in real life, etc.
• Ability for commanders, deputies, and moderator ranks to delete messages from clan chat
• Remove applicants from application list who already found a clan.
• Mark new applicants with a dot so you immediately can see the new ones when opening game.
• Display the date when applicant last time played in the applicant list.
• Additional leader board sort. The weekly leader board is sorted by honors contributed and then by platoons this week. A 3rd sort needs to be Alphabetical by member name so ties and zeros are sorted in a predictable order for member performance tracking.
• The join/leave logs should appear for all deputies on all platforms, not just for the one device they were originally received on.
• WoTB clan to discord clan-server bridge
• Previous clan memberships listed in User Profile so clan recruiters can make informed decisions.
• Improved user search for clans. Often the clan a user is searching for will not be found, even when keywords from the clan name are used.

[echo gulch]

i don't think hidden applications at full membership is a bug. for me, at least, it is a very welcome feature. i am tired of constantly dealing with applicants when my clan is full and i can't take them

if you want this changed, i would ask for the current behavior to remain an option. i would not classify it as a bug to be fixed

+1 on backup commander though. it would really help to address the rampant clan hacks NA is having

[vocal grail]

Add possibility to vote for the bugs/fix so we could prio our wishes to devs

[weary folio]

Set up a Google sheet to rank them in order of importance and desire to be changed?

[stray granite]

Go for it. I was just just trying to combine some of the recent suggestions together. I vote #1 on them all 🙃

[spring quiver]

@quick oxide could we get this message pinned? This is an excellent list and I don’t want it lost to conversation

[quick oxide]

Pinned so we can reference back to it 🙂

[spring quiver]

Thank you 🙏

[fallow nymph]

On behalf of all other leads - thanks a ton for taking the time to put that together. Some of the current bugs / glitches are inexcusable frankly. There isn't much money to go around without active communities to support a paying player base.

It seems like Clan functionality has been progressively getting worse since I started playing blitz. To give the benefit of the doubt for WG, maybe they are holding off on certain fixes until after the next big game engine update. I'm glad to see your list got pinned though; with any luck it'll get attention at some point.

[stray granite]

FWIW, it was 2 parts and only 1/2 got pinned....

[modern turret]

Why does blitzstars not have data on all players?

[simple kernel]

@stray granite clan history tab on players profiles be nice

[echo gulch]

blitzstars only has data on players who have been searched on blitzstars before

[stray granite]

As in, what clans they've been in, in the past? That would be helpful to me, but I want to make sure I understand your suggestion correctly.

[simple kernel]

Yes, i would like it too. Blitzstars has it but the system is flawed. It doesnt show half the clans i have been in

[stray granite]

I like the suggestion and I'd like to see that in the player profile too. BUT, the list is bugs and improvements in the clan management/UI. So, I'm not sure it fits in the list. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[simple kernel]

I count it as an improvement

[limpid pasture]

This is a minor one I've noticed for our own clan that I'd like to add on there if possible and we're not sure if anyone else has experienced it but unless we search up a very specific phrase in our case "Elite Armor", our clan will not appear in the search regardless of any other combination, "Elite", "Elite Armored Division" (our exact full clan name), "Armored Division", and so on and so fourth. Has anyone else experienced this or just us?

[vocal grail]

Thank you for giving time to list all these!

[twilit stag]

Who have clan for me
DM me private ( for m'y profil and other )

[weary folio]

#clan-search and #clan-recruitment are gonna be the place for you.

[stray granite]

Okay guys, I added @simple kernel's and @limpid pasture's suggestions. Indeed, I have found it hard to find my clan in the search also. I'm going to reiterate to @quick oxide (or any helpful moderator) that we need the 2nd part (improvements) pinned as well, since we are pinning these two lists. Since we have no particular order yet, I simply added the last two suggestions to the end of the improvements list. #clan-leadership message

[stray granite]

Acrisis pinned the 2nd message. Thank you sir. I also added a "last updated" date to them this morning.

[simple kernel]

U are amazing, thank you

[limpid pasture]

Appreciate it Pain.

[cold gorge]

any asia clans I could ally with

[visual rose]

No

[cedar sandal]

Check #clan-recruitment and ask the leaders

[keen burrow]

Yep.

[limpid pasture]

Has anyone else been noticing a decline in new potential recruits lately? It seems like almost no one posts in #clan-search anymore.

[noble yacht]

Ye

Now u can just send ur requirement in #clan-recruitment and wait until someone to dm u

Idk about u but thats bad for me

[keen burrow]

Who wanna ally with Helli APAC

[cedar sandal]

it's because players aren't willingly to pla the game in august XD

[limpid pasture]

Why is that though? Because most school starts again?

[stray granite]

Seems like there used to be 5-10 candidates per day just for NA. Now, there are something like 2-5 per week.

[limpid pasture]

Right, that’s my primary concern.

[languid badger]

I'm on EU and I'm down on people alately,got 40 members who are active but lost ten recently,seems like people aren't playing as much these days or have moved on,but it's definitely not like it was.

[limpid pasture]

I’m noticing this as well on top of a lack of new recruits people who used to be active are straight up quitting the game or becoming fairly inactive. We’re sitting at 5 members who haven’t played the game in a week or said they would be quitting and it only seems to increase because I can’t find suitable new recruits due to a lack of their being any! For reference we used to never have a player who hadn’t played a game in at least a week and at some points we would have a waiting list.

I’m wondering if this is a combination of seasonal activity cycles, the Droodles situation (lost our highest end, most active and most mainstream WoTB YouTuber. Never liked Droodles and especially after what came out about him but you cannot deny he had a major influence on the community and with him gone the game will suffer more). My last thought is that the game is having a fairly significant drop in daily active players due to an underwhelming August update that was hyped up way too much and changed meta that forces players to relearn certain aspects. What do you all think, please let me know?

[stray granite]

I could do a LOT of complaining here, but it seems like Blitz is working very hard to run off all of their customers with things like:

• widely unwanted "rebalancing"
• raising prices
• removing battle pass tanks
• taking tanks we paid actual money to make look a certain way and then changing them to not look good anymore
• making the game childish with things like lollipop camo
• allowing different languages on an "English only" server
• removing diversity of play by making TDs and mediums irrelevant
• removing crew-training after long time players have dumped actual money into training our crews
• not fixing the numerous clan related bugs
• requiring gambling to get certain tanks
  These things are my “off the top of my head” and the list goes on and on. The bottom line is this game is not simple and it takes time to master the skill and tactics required to be good at it. Yet Blitz keeps favoring new players and discriminating against long time players. Each from my quick list here, on their own, is a small thing. But these and others combined together make players not want to commit to this game anymore. Clan leaders are seeing it in the clan applications, but I think I see it in game too. There are less and less experienced players in battles and fewer people playing even at the peak play times. I love this game and I want it to succeed, but change after change keeps pushing the loyal players away. 💔

[echo gulch]

all facts

[limpid pasture]

To add some actual data (From Steam Charts):

- Player counts have not been this low since October 2016-August 2017 (or since before October 2016 as data doesn't go back that far)
- You can see a steady decline since the peak during the pandemic, it would seem they got used to those inflated pandemic numbers and got too comfortable and/or lazy, if I recall correctly the pandemic is when they changed quite a few things around and in my opinion for the worse.

September currently shows only 12.3K played, although it doesn't show in the table.

[noble yacht]

What the

My messages got deleted

[quick oxide]

Sentences like the one that was deleted do not contribute positively to a conversation ...

[noble yacht]

[noble yacht]

fun killer

[grave dove]

True. Plus the “fun modes” lead to lazy reckless play because it doesn’t count against the win rate. Players just rotating in games and yolo-ing to make progress without trying to win. That carries over into the other modes that do affect win rate.

[limpid pasture]

This is huge and it didn’t even cross my mind.

[quick oxide]

Read about a player aiming to get several wins per 10 minutes by going the yolo solo ram route, just rotating tanks and exiting. Quite selfish and bleeds over to other people not taking things at least a little seriously, ... between yoloers and afks, some team imbalances, ...

10 min for me that's like one battle, maybe two ... between the MM queue, waiting until everybody loaded in, and then actually duking it out

[stray granite]

I reported one of the clan bugs in Open Test: #open-test-discussions message
Have any of you guys tried any of the clan stuff? We need to report these bugs or they will never be addressed.

There are not enough testers, so we will never be able to test this bug in Open Test: "When a clan has 50 members, applications are not received. There is no waiting list on full clans anymore."

Unfortunately, I don't believe any of our other clan management related bugs can be tested in OT unless we can get a bunch more people in Open Test.

[limpid pasture]

Exactly.

[limpid pasture]

I’m confused on this, and your “I reported one of the clan bugs in Open Test: #open-test-discussions message
Have any of you guys tried any of the clan stuff? We need to report these bugs or they will never be addressed.” Haven’t they already been reported and verified by myself and multiple other clan leads including you?

[limpid pasture]

We shouldn’t need actual players, I’m sure they have the ability to use placeholder members or bot member accounts to test the issue, if that’s not an option, I alone could bring at least 10 people and I’m sure the rest of us leads could each bring that.

[stray granite]

We've confirmed these in the current version. In testing you need to show the problem exists in the new version. Getting 50 people into one clan on OT and having a 51st guy apply for example. It's a challenge.

[weary folio]

Doable though. Tbh, I doubt it's being worked on at all, much less seriously. It likely falls under the "good enough" category, and working on it wouldn't be as cost-effective as uh.... making a stock tech tree tank with a different paint job, and selling it in crates. 🤡

What do you hope to gain by forming said clan and exemplifying the issues in the test versions though?

[stray granite]

Like any big corporation, there are layers, and it can be hard to get the right information to the right people. Sometimes, you can get the attention of someone who cares or who was shielded from knowing about the problem. Someone, somewhere, likely has to make a report about how many bugs were reported and how many were addressed. If we can shine a light on these problems, perhaps we can get them to fix some of these things. In OT, the devs are a little closer to the surface and who knows, they might actually read the comments. Most of the comments are stupid, but if we can show real, actual, repeatable bugs, they might get noticed. Maybe.

Guys, I took our bug list and posted it in OT. It may be the best we can do without enough testers for this version anyway: #open-test-discussions message

[weary folio]

Gotcha

Are the OT servers delineated by region as well (e.g., NA, EU, APAC)? If not, this is a lot easier..... if yes, we should reach out to someone in leadership in one of the large families, like USD or the Rebel Alliance quartet.

[stray granite]

I believe it is one central server in EU for all regions, but I could be wrong. It would be great if we could coordinate in the future.

[weary folio]

Definitely. Has the current test cycle ended? I didn't see anything about that, but I don't pay a ton of attention to those channels anymore.

[stray granite]

Testing is still running on 11.3.0, but the registration period ended over a week ago.

YES the test server I'm connected to from NA today is a G-Core Labs server in Luxembourg. So, we should be able to coordinate clan leaders across regions in future testing.

[quick oxide]

When it comes to some of these deficiencies / bugs; I am hoping that they have been noted by staff, and are just something on the fix it list for when we get the complete game overhaul and new game engine.

[weary folio]

Definitely. I do wonder though..... how much longer we gonna wait for that lol? I rather get the feeling a playerbase-wide "No money until improvements" would be helpful..... and maybe necessary, if we want to see real and beneficial changes to the game's backend within the next..... oh..... two years?

[distant oar]

Hello, i Started a new clan P-W-A and quite confused about the part to get players stay in a new clan and not immediately leave

[limpid pasture]

My confusion would be that they haven't even said they've fixed it in the new version so it is likely going to remain, however I do understand your point on getting their attention.

[limpid pasture]

Just as I was going to reply to your message I see it's a closed channel now.

[weary folio]

@eternal plaza please check the rules pinned in https://discord.com/channels/481445776178806785/507146050075885568. There are limits on the frequency with which you can post.

[eternal plaza]

It's a 6 hour limit right?

[quick oxide]

1 advert is allowed per week, with 7 days / 168 hours between posts.

[vast rapids]

I have a question for the "English only" clan leaders. Do you have this rule simply for your convenience or have you experienced member loss because of it.

I didn't phrasecthat correctly. I meant " or did you experience member loss because of more than one language?"

[limpid pasture]

That's more a question for the moderators but it's probably because they can't properly moderate a bunch of different languages so instead they keep it uniform via English. It's also probably to keep demographics separated, I know there is a separate Russian/Ukranian server.

[fickle glen]

i think you misunderstood the question

@vast rapids no, i don't think it's a big contributor. very few clans have an evenly mixed group of multiple languages. most people belong to a clan that speaks one language

[vast rapids]

I've lost both English and Spanish speakers on the complaint of too much of the others language. Tonight I lost another because I misunderstood something in Spanish and it slowed down a platooning effort. Clans require more effort than I imagined. But I've put in the work. Then players just bail. Had a full clan at one point. Got all the rewards etc. Then attrition set in. And half of remaining players don't contribute. Can't get more than a few to join our discord server. I've always been generous and respectful at every turn. Am I the last true Blitz addict? Thanks for your feedback.

[vocal grail]

Our clan has beside English also other main languages, as polska and russian, and we use a translation bot in discord multilangual channels. Different languages is no problem and gives more diversity.

[limpid pasture]

Yeah I thought he was referring to official WoTB Discord server rules, thanks.

[limpid pasture]

It’s always ideal to have a uniform language for your clan, it builds more of a connection and brotherhood because everyone can easily understand and communicate with each other, but we do also have people who speak Spanish, Japanese, ETC. For us anyways we require and need to be able to communicate and converse with them in English to ensure that.

[vast rapids]

@vocal grail there is a bot for that? I don't have to hen peck thru Google translate ? I'll look into it. Ty. I have one Russian speaker. 1 polish. Lost my Japanese guy. Lost 2 Ukrainian players. But mostly now is South America and USA.

[vocal grail]

Translator Bot#1043

[vast rapids]

@vocal grail Thank you !

[fickle glen]

that's actually pretty sweet

i guess there isn't as much of a need per say on NA, because we only have 4 widely spoken languages in the Americas: English, Spanish, Portuguese, and French. in my clan, we have a few Spanish and Portugese speakers, but they know enough English to get by in our clan chats. We don't prohibit non-English speakers, but we do expect them to be able to read our announcements and understand some basic English

[weary folio]

I find this idea of "You need a passable understanding of English" to be the most common way of doing this in groups for more mature games as well.

[stray granite]

"English Only" is our #1 rule. It keeps deputies from having to translate all the time and the "lost in translation" issues. Drama is the primary enemy of clan happiness. When people don't understand one another, it creates drama. We have bilingual/multilingual members, which is fantastic. But when you're in clan chat, it's English. A guy asked me if it was okay to speak another language in DMs. ??? I don't care what you do outside the group chat, that's not clan business. Speak what you want elsewhere, but in the clan chat, it's English. Our clan rules apply on our Discord server.

I laughed, knowingly: Clans require more effort than I imagined. 🍻

[visual rose]

In "german" clan it is normal to have people from different countries. Obviously Germany, Austria Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Italy (South Tyrol).

[fallow nymph]

Clans require tremendous effort. But keep in mind; the value of your community shouldn't be diminished by those who leave, but rather it's measured by those who actively choose to stay & partake in the collective community day after day. I myself struggle with taking departures a bit hard sometimes, so take it from me. Better to focus on the members you have as opposed to those who've decided they'd rather be elsewhere.

It sounds like you have alot of pressure on your shoulders so if I may offer some advice - elect some fellow leaders within your Clan who are committed, loyal, and desire the responsibility. It's a massive help. I'd have given up long ago if I didn't have the guys alongside me who help operate everything behind the scenes.

[vast rapids]

@fallow nymph Good advice. I have three deputy leaders currently. All three were great at one time. 2 have drifted off into inactivity. One has a very good reason so no hard feelings on him. The other has too many other gaming interests. The one than is active has recently learned she is pregnant. Going thru morning sickness etc. So she's preparing me for het eventual departure once baby is born. I have offered deputyship to many of my Spanish speakers. None accepted. Two of them noted that the electricity in their country is not consistent enough for them to be reliable deputies.

[spring quiver]

Moonmen is a multilingual clan and we’ve had max membership for quite some time. On NA Spanish is nearly as common as English so having the ability to accommodate both languages is great for recruiting. Most of our leadership is bilingual also which helps

[simple kernel]

@vast rapids i uausally try to keep my clans english only for simplicity reasons and to avoid seperate groups forming. My clans also tend to be involved in tournaments so if everyone is english and 1 guy has english as his second language and may not totally understand what everyone else is saying then he makes mistakes and that causes issues. This why toons are a good way to test people before they join because vc will tell you how well they speak and listen

[spring quiver]

Sometimes there’s minor communication issues but not enough to cause a problem. On discord we have a channel for just our Spanish speakers in addition to our “normal” English channels.

[spring quiver]

I can see English only being a useful rule for communication, my clan is fortunate to have multiple adept bilingual speakers (even I have some Spanish speaking ability, partly due to being around Spanish speakers so often) I’d say that having multiple languages is completely fine so long as there is an active translator, whether native or a bot

Keeping to the topic of clan changes that often come up in this channel I would love to see a translation software in game channels. I know it’s possible since I played a game years ago that had an active program that translated messages automatically to the viewers language. It wasn’t perfect but it would be a nice feature to add

[simple kernel]

Finding reliable and active blitz players is hard. Finding those that put in extra by being leadership or comp is even harder. In my experience having half a clan is better then a full clan of inactives or barely active people. By removing inactives or people who really arent peopling in effort it means you can send them on there way and not worry about managing them. It is builds your clan strong with solid group. Hard to explain but it definitely makes life easier. Note if someone is inactive for a stated reason i am a reasonable guy and they can stay. Must the time i tell the ones remove if they become more active and can maintain it they are welcome to come back.

[vast rapids]

Good points all of you. Thanks again. I speak Spanish as a second language. But I speak better than I read it and read it better than I type/spell it. Finding it tough to get Anyone to use the discord voice service during platooning besides my son. I have had zero platoons with Spanish speakers on voice. I am looking for a bilingual deputy. I'll be posting an ad for it soon.

[simple kernel]

Tooning with vc comes down to seeing the advantage of having vc. Makes the toon better at working together and because they enjoy sharing moments over vc it tends to be more fun. It allows more communication then basic directions. Such as making jokes or enjoying something funny a tank did.

[vast rapids]

@simple kernel that's how I release them as well. With an invite to rejoin if they become active again. I'm also reasonable for absences if communicated. I've had 2 players suffer from multiple bouts of covid. One of thosr coming on the heels of a scheduled vaction to the mountsins with no internet service. I've got one player who is terminal. So he's sick alot.Sad too cause he's about as nice of a person as I know. Lost phones, list accounts etc. But if they let me know about it it's not an issue.

Lost* I swear I should change my tanker name to Mr_ Typo. Lol

[simple kernel]

I am pretty bad to. That is mainly because keyboard is small on phone

[vast rapids]

Yep

I agree. But also I could proof read before I send. But in the hurry up world of a blitz battle, especially platooning, when ever nerve in your body is firing just trying to stay alive... sometimes I forget to check my work.

Thank you all again for your input. I'd like to offer you something in return. To see if anyone in my clan was paying attention I ran a contest. I explained that thete is a toy tank hidden on Mayan ruins map and the first one to find it and ID the tank would win a reward from the store. I had 1 clanmate take me up on it. He found it in about 30 minutes of looking. If any clan leaders want to know where it is I show you so you can have your own contest.

[simple kernel]

I imagine we all appreciate the offer but most of us here are just to help other leaders. Anyways that is a solid contest right there having them find the different things. Vineyards has a soccer ball. And of course there are the ducks

[vast rapids]

Roger. I didn't know about the soccer ball and ducks. I'll look. Ty.

[tired bay]

A room just for clan leaders 🎉

[simple kernel]

Ya it goes along with the amx cdcs legendary camo

[sullen folio]

Can someone tell me how I can get my clan into rankings ? Do I need to play rating ? Or win tournaments?

[limpid pasture]

There’s no official rankings, are you referring to something like the BlitzStars clan leaderboard?

[sullen folio]

Yes

[limpid pasture]

That’s based off the statistics of people in your clan, it only counts people with 5,000 or 5,500+ battles, I forget which one it is.

[sullen folio]

Okay thanks

[vocal grail]

If I understand tournament news correctly, there will be a ranking introduced from next month. More info out Oct 1 #important-about-tourneys message

[limpid pasture]

Oh that is interesting.

[weary folio]

@quick atlas @chilly lynx you guys need to work something out on your clan's recruitment. Each clan is permitted one advertisement per week per the rules.

[chilly lynx]

understood, there was a miscommunication

[languid badger]

Was just reading stuff here and my clan has English only in clan chat to,if you don't speak it you get removed it's that simple plus we have a absolute zero tolerance policy to arguments or drama,anyone starts there out,it's efficient and works ok.

[noble yacht]

An absolute*🤓

[fallow nymph]

@celest bison If you get a chance could you please read the DM I sent?

Thanks in advance 🙏

[celest bison]

i will

[fickle glen]

@frigid acorn use #clan-recruitment for clan ads

[stray granite]

Wrong channel buddy.

[unkempt oar]

Even if I sent it in the wrong channel, this not a reason 4 deleting my message!

[keen burrow]

Who wanna ally with helli apac

[cold gorge]

Me

[shut minnow]

Seems like it is to me 🤷‍♂️

[ornate ruin]

What does allying clan even do

[main fulcrum]

Can help with training rooms for clan wars/practice, good for mixing tournament/arena teams if you like, allows clan members to be in a community with other players and get experience/help/platoons with the veterans/better players of a clan
Often, allied clans are of similar skill base or it’s a feeder clan allied to the main clan

[ornate ruin]

Oh ok thx

[limpid pasture]

Have there been any announced changes or updates to the clan system since our last discussion clan leads?

[loud yoke]

for some reason even thow im in clan it doesnt show the clan members in the section above the friends

[limpid pasture]

Have you tried restarting the game? I've encountered a similar issue with players who are no longer in the clan still appearing in that section above friends.

[loud yoke]

yea

still same problem

[limpid pasture]

Yep, there's an issue with that system as well then it seems, clan's are being neglected right now.

[magic rose]

#clan-recruitment message
Don't you have to be 13 to have discord and even see this? Skipping the fact 13 and under requirement is wierd

[limpid pasture]

Yes.

[forest oriole]

U have to be 13 but do we know they are under 13? Ofc not. People fake their age.

[crimson night]

Hi there, did you or anyone reading this found an API for leaderboard end week results?

[limpid pasture]

Thanks for sharing in clan leadership Kevin, that made my day. It truly did.

[cedar sandal]

This will help all the others to manage clans better

[rugged cloud]

kevin.mg11 has been warned.

[light monolith]

It's not my clan. My clan is [C-ICE]

[limpid pasture]

You were warned because this is #clan-search, not a place to share battle results. 👍

[stray granite]

No unfortunately. Clan leaders must read the information off the screen and enter/save it elsewhere. It's a problem every single week. An API has been requested. But WG does not seem to pay any attention to clan needs recently.

[crimson night]

I don't want to spend the time to enter 50 lines 3 rows every week. I have tried with chat gtp4 with screen shot but you can only do it (more than 3 shoots) with paid account. Have you find another way?

[shut minnow]

Create a custom neural network 😏

[limpid pasture]

There are also other text based image readers out there that I believe are completely free.

[crimson night]

Any of those thay I have tried manage to extract the names, numbers, columns. If you know any that can do the job please share

[stray granite]

Sorry, I haven't tried that way. I just read them and type it the info into a spreadsheet. It takes some time, but it works. If/when you get something that really works, please share it with us here.

[limpid pasture]

Can you try to reword the question? I’m not sure I’m completely understanding. Are you talking about filtering out certain things?

[stray granite]

Since we don't have a text output, CSV, or API, he's trying to grab a screen shot like this and then convert the data digitally so he doesn't have to track his clan member stats manually.
(random old pic I had)

[stray granite]

One thing we asked for in the past that isn't on our pinned list is a black outline around the numbers so we can read them. OCR will certainly have a problem decoding players like this guy in my clan. How many points has he contributed this week??? 🙄

[limpid pasture]

I know, but the method I suggested would work for grabbing that data. I believe he is asking if there is any tool that can filter out the ‘junk data’ while still outputting the ‘desired data’. If that is the case there is none that I know of, it will gather all text it can find & read.

[crimson night]

Yes that's what I need. Only instead of copy them by rows /columns manually, I use chatgtp to do it for me and copy them to excel. However the free version allows only 3 uploads and the smaller the screen shot is, the more is prompt to errors. Like 8 vs 6 or 0. I don't need 20$ subscription for chatgtp right now. Haven't found any image to text alternative that can do the job

[limpid pasture]

Does anyone know how many clans exist worldwide and/or on NA servers? Blitzstars only goes up to 600.

[quick oxide]

It has to be countless thousands.

[crimson night]

I've found the right tool. !!! Co pilot Microsoft reads the screen shot smoothly and make a table. Try. Works beautifully

[stray granite]

Tell us how to do this in co-pilot. Like are you making screen shots or just telling it what app to look at? What are your instructions (that work) that you give to it? Are you giving it instructions on what to output? Where does it make the output, like is it on your clipboard, does it open a document, or does it output a csv or something to your drive? Please share details!

[fickle glen]

wait that's actually pretty smart

i hadn't considered sending screenshots to AI

ugh this newfangled technology. i honestly forgot many of these AI things can read screenshots

[fickle glen]

that's actually pretty impressive

for some reason, it missed the underscores in Devastion's and my usernames

but for a proof of concept, not bad

google gemini may be the best because it can send the information directly to a sheets form. i tried using Copilot and I wasn't able to send it to Microsoft Excel

you can then make a .csv file from it and upload it to the spreadsheet program of your choice. i strongly recommend LibreOffice if you don't have the Microsoft Suite applications, its a free and open source program with all of the Microsoft applications: it has a version of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and a bunch of others

[quick oxide]

[shut minnow]

I’m pretty sure a lot of these AI things have API on their own, so you could make this process a lot more straightforward and automated. But it begs the question whether it’s really worth it at this point.

[crimson night]

@stray granite [RTHUN just upload a screen shot and type: "extract text in rows and columns and make a table"

[stray granite]

Thanks @fickle glen and @crimson night . I'll give it a try. As we have discussed elsewhere, Frost, AI will lie to you if it doesn't know the answer (see AI hallucination on wikipedia). Sometimes the numbers are really hard to read since they don't use an outline so we'll see what the AI does in those cases. I'll give it a try and will be double checking the outputs. Hopefully it'll save clan leaders a bunch of time.

[cedar sandal]

wargaming doesn't give gifts for clan anniversaries right?

[fickle glen]

not as a rule, no

in fact, i don't think it's ever happened. but if there was a case for gifts for a clan, it was III's 10th anniversary somewhat lately

[limpid pasture]

This would be a cool thing for them to do, but on another note I'd love to be able to conquer virtual territory from a WoTB 'world map' with clans. Each virtual territory you take and successfully hold would give you a certain amount of resources, and other rewards. Other clans could contest and challenge your territory while your clan attempts to defend and do the same with others.

[fickle glen]

man

you would have loved Clan Wars NA

that was the whole premise of CWNA 1-5

not quite earning resources off territory but very close to everything else you're saying

[limpid pasture]

Is that on WoT PC?

[fickle glen]

no, it was a community run Blitz tournament, before actual tournaments were in the game

[limpid pasture]

Oh, do you have a video of it anywhere? Curious to see how it’s different from regular tournaments.

[fickle glen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc5d2lnYgrw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-PHQspo3Yo

i don't have screenshots of what the maps would look like but they're kind of in the thumbnail

[fickle glen]

found an old map from CWNA 4

clans would be sorted into certain divisions for tier and size. i think there was tier 5-10, and then 5v5 or 7v7, and then supremacy only, encounter only, or mixed

something like that. i distinctly remember a mixed category but i can't remember...what was mixed

there was also something really interesting for at least one CW, where the council decided on a tier point cap. For Tier 10, you had 68 points-- meaning you could have 6 tier 10's (60 points), and then you'd have to decide on either bringing 1 tier 8 (8 points), or you could bring 5 Tier 10's (50 points) and 2 Tier 9's (18 points)

i know a lot of teams would run a Tier 8 instead of 2 Tier 9's. Ru 251 was popular because there was no Tier 10 lights at the time, so people would use it to scout and just ignore its damage dealing possibilities, or they would run the T34 for its really high pen and competitive damage, along with a decent turret

teams that ran 2 Tier 9's would usually run 2 T-54's because of how OP it was

[limpid pasture]

Very interesting, that is cool but I had something more immersive in mind, with updating in game graphics, almost risk the video game style, not as community based and battles that could be as big as well 50 members (the clans limit).

[vast rapids]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[spring quiver]

Such a great event

[stray granite]

Update on the AI extraction since WoTB doesn't have an API for clans.

1. Copilot was a no-go. It wants me to create an account for me to review images and I'm not paying for that.
2. Gemini would read the table, but not the platoons number (which we track) by default. This works in gemini to get the extra column:
   extract text in rows and columns and make a table. the forth column name is platoons.

The most I can drop in there at a time is 20 lines because of the height of my stacked monitors. Alas, it gives me the table just as seen, so I cannot import it into my spreadsheet. The spreadsheet can be sorted by rank or by name, sure. But the AI data always comes out in this week's rank order, not my rank order or alphabetized. Therefore, I cannot simply load the data into the spreadsheet. I'll still have to copy and paste every single line by hand. The only caveat is that I can copy and paste instead of reading it off the screen.

Well, scratch that too. I see Gemini cannot this guy's score. It reported him as 105 and 11 platoons where the humans can see that's 109 and 22 - OOPS. If I have to double check the AI line by line, it's probably a not worth the effort. 🙁

I reported the error to Gemini.

[vocal grail]

There were similar on EU too in the beginning, the clan "owned" a map and tried to get more maps, other clans tried challenge you for yours. In the end the winner had most maps.

[cedar sandal]

Risiko 2.0?

[limpid pasture]

Let's bring back a revamped version of that seriously, us here at EAD want it.

I can't imagine it would be too much work creating the visuals, added benefit of WG being able to make content out of it, maybe even new advertisements to bring new people to the game.

[plush grove]

I just came here to ask about how to track members activity better.... i've been using screeshots and copy and pasting the text to google sheets, but it's buggy and slow!!! See some of the other's here have figured out a betetr system using AI. I'll check it out.

[sterile gazelle]

Here’s my old battle calcs from CW5 when I was CRUEL lead. I sure miss those tourneys.

[echo gulch]

i remember our battle when you were in SW4RM, was truly a great time :^)

[sterile gazelle]

Wow, that does go back to CW 3!

That must have been 2016

[echo gulch]

sounds about right! long time ago. i miss CWNA

[sterile gazelle]

It was surprisingly well run for a volunteer event

I don’t know how Hardyreksin kept that database going

[echo gulch]

definitely

[vocal grail]

the na camo is still one of the best in game

[stray granite]

Let us know how it works for you. Just beware of the problem I posted where it reads the data wrong because of the profile backgrounds. You'll have to double check all the AI outputs. 😩

[limpid pasture]

I’m just curious but what do you guys do with the ranked clan missions tracking data?

[stray granite]

I post clan rankings in our discord. The friendly competition of trying to be ranked highly motivates clan mates to stay productive to keep their rank high. The high productivity helps everyone in the clan obtain 10 rewards.

On the other end (bottom) of the scale, it helps us to decide who to kick and replace. People who aren't contributing are just taking up space. We track platoons too, because if someone helps by platooning with clan mates a great deal is helping everyone too. You need a long average so if a productive player goes on vacation for 2 weeks for example, their ranking is still high so they don't get kicked inadvertently.

[limpid pasture]

I see, so it’s basically just another way you track activity and ‘work ethic’ for lack of a better word. Cool to see everyone uses a different method.

[cedar sandal]

You can do a lot tbh, ofc depends on the leadership but you can do events with prizes, or just monitor how the clan is going, there isn't a fixed stuff on what clans act, every clan has a leadership that wants to be more dynamic or more traditional, depends on leadership

[limpid pasture]

Seems like the limits of it are tracking activity though in an attempt to maintain or increase activity, which I figured, just thought maybe there was something else I was missing. Personally I use a different activity metric but I could see this one working well, just a little more 'labor' intensive to record and track.

[stray granite]

If I understand correctly, WoTB is headed toward a central login and you play on your local "server". I wonder what the implications will be for clans? Perhaps someone who plays on the APAC server could be in a NA clan in the future. It will be interesting to see how the clans are affected by this. 🤔

[limpid pasture]

They're merging servers so I don't see why that wouldn't be possible.

[visual rose]

maybe all tournament teams from all servers now play in the same tournament

[limpid pasture]

Eventually that should be the case.

[gusty coral]

With ping 500? It’s impossible for technical reasons

[visual rose]

Idk what 500 ping. When i play on Asia i have around 200 ping and NA even less than that

[limpid pasture]

They will still likely operate main servers in each region to prevent high ping.

It's just now all the servers will communicate with each other, how they will deal with the intercontinental ping between say a player in North America and a player in Europe/Asia is hard to say, maybe they will still restrict it due to that reason.

[limpid pasture]

Is <@&588305728176128040> the new NA server role name? 🤣

[gusty coral]

Where is EU clans on the Blitzstars? Only Asia and NA is displayed.

[quick oxide]

Maybe there is a database access issue for EU data?

[magic rose]

are clan averages (avg dmg, winrate) calculated considering the players battles? so 20k battles 50% winrate and 5k battles 100% winrate wouod make it 60% winrate for the clan

[visual rose]

Yes

[sterile gazelle]

As long as the players meet the battle requirements to be rated by Blitzstars for clan averages

[fickle glen]

there’s a clan average winrate in-game too

yes, its weighted on battle count as well. the system takes the total wins of all players in the clan, divided by the total games played by all clan members

it doesn’t just add up everyone’s winrates irrespective of battle count and divide by the number of clanmates

[limpid pasture]

Did the Discord get hacked or something? Roles are all back to normal now but looked strange when I sent that message.

[echo gulch]

man was not paying attention

[limpid pasture]

Yeah sorry I don’t check this Discord 24/7 but last night NA-server role was “soccer not football’. Clearly I guess I’m the only one who missed the joke or reference behind that.

[noble yew]

The hacker theme in the operation video spilled into the Discord server. #game-news

[limpid pasture]

Interesting marketing stunt. 😂 Thanks for the information.

[wooden swift]

Blitzstars is not working last 4/5 days at least in order to check clan stats, members and so...is there any other alternative in internet?

[visual rose]

You can check ingame

[noble yew]

The problem seems to be with EU clans, NA and Asia seem to be fine. The BlitzStars dev tries to stay on top of things but his contact info is on the website if needed. Keep in mind that it’s a volunteer operation.

[random idol]

Just realised I haven't changed clan tag in recruitment poster

Should be WE1SH not CY-WA

[gusty coral]

Why you wrote it here?

[wooden swift]

Tried to contact dev as per your message, but no success at all. Contact info are outdated (no forums now online, Twitter account is abandoned, no email, and no reply from SockRobber in game) 😔

[noble yew]

Check again. There’s an email listed. It worked for me a week or two ago.

If you’ve already tried it he may have seen it and is working on the problem. My first contact was through Patreon, so that may have helped. His replies sometimes took a couple days.

I encourage everyone to support the websites you use when you can. My support may mean I buy one or two less crates. 😉

[wooden swift]

Tks for your answer. I might be not looking the right place, but cannot see the email contact, can u share it with me ?

[noble yew]

@ instead of “at”. He spelled it instead of providing a link, maybe to avoid spam bots, etc.

[wooden swift]

reply from SockRobber

[noble yew]

😢 The websites we use are at the mercy of WG’s API’s, and so are we. I’ve tried contacting support, but they don’t deal with API problems. Who at WG does?

[wooden swift]

API is finally working now for EU clans tab 👌

[lucid meteor]

Hummmmm

[keen cipher]

Hey guys, we are a more casual clan, but still got to do some serious housecleaning now, propably half of people are just dead. Is there some good way to track peoples activity? i know there is blitzstars but that only tracks the last 30 days? Which is a little harsher than I want to be, basically for me its good enough to kick all the people who are gone or minimal for several months. Also is there some more efficient way than copypasting every single member into blitzstars?

[limpid pasture]

Blitzstars also tracks 60 day and 90 day statistics. The only option you didn’t mention that could be useful is to use clan mission metals to see how much each member is contributing in terms of medals each week which is fairly reflective of activity. I’m sure you’re aware of this as well, but you can also sort all the members in your clan from the member that played longest ago to the member that played most recently. However, this doesn’t really measure activity, as it only tracks normal encounter or supremacy games and can take a while to update, plus a member would only have to play a single game to seem as active as someone doing 50 games a day. For your final question, yes, there is, you can search for your clan’s name or tag on Blitzstars and if you scroll down near the bottom of the page, you’ll see a list of all your current clan members with a ton of statistics, you can also select individual clan members to view more in depth from that page.

[noble yew]

I use the methods v_a_n_q_u_i_s_h mentioned and then send them an in game dm telling them they will be dropped if they don’t message me back. I wait a few days or a week and then drop them.

MODE is set up as a casual clan for people whose lives limit when or how much they play. Clan members who have been active for longer and those who tell us they are taking a break for a reason get more leeway.

[sterile gazelle]

Check your clan stats page. It will show all players. Sort it on the Last Played column and there’s your list.

[ruby berry]

It's not really true. If you have someone who play only in mode, the date won't be the real one, but the last time when he played regular game

[keen cipher]

@limpid pasture many thanks for the detailed response! That will do it, I think. much love!! @noble yew @ruby berry thanks too!

[magic rose]

soo the clan advert i posted got instant deleted, anyone know why? maybe cause link?

[quick oxide]

Correct. No discord invites.

[floral mauve]

You can say, “ dm for discord link” or something like that.

[quick oxide]

Indeed, you can say that, or post the letter code ( as described in the pinned rules 😉 ) and you can have your discord server link in your personal profile.

[stray granite]

Happy Thanksgiving from the clan leads of NA! Here's a rare group photo of a few of us from back in the day.

[limpid pasture]

🤣 Likewise!

Now let's play guess the tanks in the background of the image. A narrow KPZ 70 perhaps?

[stray granite]

Let's see, IIRC, @limpid pasture was on the left, and @sterile gazelle was second from the right. Was that @dire wagon second from the left? I can't remember, it was so long ago. I, of course, was taking the picture. 😂

[limpid pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-dwight-the-general-manfredi-sylvester-stallone-tulsa-king-s1e6-gif-27284894

[quick oxide]

Belated Happy Thanksgiving.

The season started here with wet snow, a power outage and icy driveways. Need a bit of warm up soon to clear some of this stuff.

[rugged cloud]

pucmu was muted.

@final storm, please note, that the official language of this server is English. If you want to speak Russian/Ukrainian, please join the server below.
Официальным языком этого сервера является английский. Если вы хотите говорить на русском, пожалуйста, присоединяйтесь к серверу ниже.
Офіційною мовою цього сервера є англійська. Якщо ви хочете говорити українською, будь ласка, приєднуйтесь до сервера нижче.
https://discord.gg/mkNtBAYcWy

[thorn pivot]

so what do you use to check someones activity out when blitzstars is down? I either check in their current clan how many points they contribute or if the played a lot of rating games but its less acurate than blitzstars (which doesnt track fun modes..)

[thorn pivot]

seems like they still have API issues and it doesnt fetch player data..

[noble yew]

It’s working for me right now. It wasn’t earlier, but after I let sockrobber know he had it back up in a day.

He also said that he’s going to keep a closer eye on it because of the issues in the last couple months. There’s been some on his end too,like the last one. He’s looking for any underlying problems. Hopefully not hardware/server ones, since that would take longer to fix.

[thorn pivot]

thanks for the update! works for me too now

[keen burrow]

Reaching out to all APAC clan leaders:
We are looking for new alliances to make and create a community server for all of our allied clans and their members who can help each other out and just chill with each other! If you are interested than join our alliance server and confirm your alliance with already existing leaders and then the members can join!

[astral dawn]

wsg guys

[stray cliff]

what does wsg mean

[astral dawn]

What’s good

[rancid nova]

What clan?

[keen burrow]

HELLI

But we are just the hosts. There are much more clans liie Eisen,Xbolt, FNE, PHL F, the main alliance hosters. And other clans

[rancid nova]

What are the benefits of alliance

[keen burrow]

@rancid nova ^^

[rancid nova]

That's my question, how are we helping each other out?

[keen burrow]

Tours, platoons, room stuff.

[cobalt mason]

hmm can we dm

[keen burrow]

Yes

[magic rose]

if you log into your account on blitzstars, and you own a clan, it is possible to change clan logo? or is it a supporter only feature or whatever

[thorn pivot]

you need to be a supporter for that

[cedar sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/red302-gif-25887540

[wicked tiger]

Hm

[stray granite]

We didn't get an open test for the upcoming release. I hope they fixed some of the clan related problems we've been discussing.

The one where clan leaders do not see applications when a clan is full for example. It didn't use to be this way, and that one keeps being a problem for my clan.

[terse lance]

I dont think they will do smt, UE is most likely coming next month, or march.

[stray granite]

UE, merging server, update... they have a lot going on. I just hope for some improved/fixed clan tools. 🙏

[echo gulch]

😬

[fickle glen]

yeah that's definitely their biggest priority

[tough void]

TLH clan on APAC server looking for Australian or New Zealand based clans to be ‘mates’ with. This is a play for fun clan, made up of many 48%ers but take the game as serious as possible. DM clan leader @tough void (me) so we can chat.

[wary elk]

i wonder what happens to the clans with the same tags when the server merge

[stray granite]

Ha, that's a good question. Do they allow the same tags on different servers? Like right now can there be a NEURO on another server? I thought the names were unique. Like I tried to get a user IGN on NA that was being used on CIS (before the split) and it wouldn't let me use that name.

[wary elk]

yup, made a NEURO on the na server lol and I'm kinda worried that it might cause some issues

[stray granite]

Ha, that's interesting. Yes, I wonder how they're going to solve that too then.

[wary elk]

also i think the max clan members should be changed to something like 75 or 100 ngl

[stray granite]

We have requested that many times in the past. Hopefully, some of these requested clan changes will be addressed. (see the pin above)

HA! I'm not seeing that one in the pinned list. Am I blind or did we not include it in the pinned list...

[quick oxide]

I think that one long preceded the pinned list 🙂

[stray granite]

I can edit the list, but I'd like a consensus from a handful of clan leaders first. I seriously doubt anyone will say, "No clans should be smaller or the same size." But the list has been a group effort, so I'll see if anyone chimes in.

[echo gulch]

personally i do not want clans to increase in size. at least on NA, the number of good clans has always gone down - the top clans continue to absorb good players from the runner-up clans. with the lack of good players to replace them (which IMO is another problem WG contributes to), clan diversity always shrinks. increasing to 75 or 100 would only speed up that process

[wicked tiger]

I hear that, but with the server merge coming that wont really be an issue anymore, coz everyone will be on the same server, having access to the same clans. IDK about other server, but loads of clans on EU have 2 or 3 ingame clans because of how many players they have. 75+ might be a bit much but 50 should be fine i think

[echo gulch]

true, but the number of clan-engaged players is constantly decreasing, regardless of server. clan diversity will still trend downwards over time, and increasing clan member count will still accelerate it

[spring quiver]

Idk if I’m just out of the loop and haven’t been paying attention but what’s this about a server merge

Interesting

So it only affects players if they are platooned across regions then.

As for the clans i think it would make sense for there to be an option to expand the clan size (not necessarily in relation to server merges). It would assist large clan families in organizing themselves, since managing multiple clans with multiple leadership structures is a problem in the bigger clan families

[main fulcrum]

An increase of clan players should mean more rewards for the clan missions, either more levels or better/increased values and would mean harder to attain as more activity required too

[fickle glen]

i would welcome new tools for clan leadership to communicate with their members as well as fixing the false announcement bug, but i don't see the need for an expanded clan size

leader and deputies should be able to do things like pin messages and send announcements to the whole clan besides just leaving a message in chat. getting the announcement in the Notifications section along with a small pop-up when you enter the game would be great

[quick oxide]

From my perspective, an increase in clan size would be welcome ... but I understand the concern, that then all clans might grow quite big.