#Episode 8 The Finale

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rigid slate
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Cal did it with his lightsaber that he crushed in Fallen Order, which is pretty much exactly what happened to the Darksaber, so...

white sage
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I am technically correct; the best kind of correct

fast sonnet
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This episode was Meh for me. Some cool fight scenes and some silly ones. Huge plot hole in how Grogu gets away from the group to save Din. I get the same energy of Grogu jumping around on a lighting fixture as Leia running away from her kidnappers in Kenobi. Overall the episode was an overload of rule of cool. The whole season completely subverted what had been built up the first 2 seasons.

crude sonnet
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If there’s one thing that is always consistent in Star Wars, there will always be “fans” that want to complain about it.

bronze bough
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Again, the Darksaber being broken is an easy fix if Bo needs it. She knows a gal.

untold hearth
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With a certain droid too

tranquil oyster
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Then you haven't read it.

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Which I can tell because this is specifically called out in the first paragraph.

tender zinc
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Omg when grogu takes the creed

“Forever will the creed dominate my destiny” 😂

bronze bough
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I wanted Grogu to say "This is the Way" just at the end to show the Armorer she's not always right lol

little lake
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Which is why when Din Djarin brings up the Creed in his discussions with her he actually has half a change of making his point and getting her to agree with him.

bronze bough
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True, but it might've been surprising enough to make her eyes pop out of her helmet lol

latent plume
# tranquil oyster Then you haven't read it.

No, I didn't read it, because I don't care all that much. It's my opinion that it wasn't the strongest episode, and I didn't like the tropiness. You're welcome to have a different opinion.

tranquil oyster
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My opinion is "you don't know what the word trope means"

latent plume
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You're really taking this way too seriously.

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I didn't like it. My view. You liked it. Your view. Both totally fine.

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I don't know why you're trying to convince me my opinion is wrong.

tranquil oyster
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Not at all. You didn't like it, that's fine. Saying that it's "too tropey" without knowing what a trope is means you're trying to find a way to justify your dislike that sounds like you've got a well thought out reason for disliking it and that your position is more valid than the opposing one.

versed inlet
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This is going on on Twitter, I had to stop looking I was getting so mad,

latent plume
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Why do you care if I have a well thought out reason or not? It doesn't affect you in the slightest, and it's really weird that you're pushing so hard on this.

tranquil oyster
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I care because it's really funny to watch you do this.

latent plume
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It had some really fun parts. It had some parts I thought were dumb and contrived. Overall, meh, for me.

tranquil oyster
# versed inlet This is going on on Twitter, I had to stop looking I was getting so mad,

It's been running long enough now that people are expecting to be blown away by it like they were with season 1, so we're starting to see the early portion of the same mentality that lead to the backlash against the prequels. Plus Grogu being a character everyone knows now means it's cool to hate the popular thing. Plus Twitter is a cesspit of culture war stuff, and generally best avoided for media discussion at this point.

gray herald
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How do I get that move along gif to appear....?

tranquil oyster
versed inlet
lusty oracle
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👀 uhhhh ping me when you do

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Fun fact Re: Twitter.

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Twitter. Isn’t. Reality.

versed inlet
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BUT

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I am learning a valuable lesson, just stop looking at the rumors

untold hearth
lusty oracle
languid acorn
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I like that the three of them got to slide.

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It was a cute little connection.

gray herald
lusty oracle
bronze bough
languid acorn
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Oh and I think Bird just told us to touch grass.

lusty oracle
languid acorn
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Sir, we live in a desert.

ornate oasis
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There’s like 5 more minutes of green season in CA. 🤣

tranquil oyster
versed inlet
languid acorn
versed inlet
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lol

languid acorn
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@lusty oracle order obeyed

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I was tempted to give a number one sign. Hehe

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I'll admit it did feel good.

lusty oracle
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@versed inlet YOUR TURN GO

versed inlet
earnest elbow
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My opinion on Gideon

gray herald
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Still I wouldn't be surprised to see a clone of his come back to haunt us.

earnest elbow
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That would be ridiculously boring

gray herald
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🤷‍♂️

lusty oracle
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Well @versed inlet we're waiting 😛

ornate oasis
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I only touch grass to murder it. 😈

versed inlet
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Now guess which finger I used.

solid sail
little lake
solid sail
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I think she’s saying we’re #1…

versed inlet
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Oh I'm saying something

gray herald
# versed inlet

Trick question, you cut off a finger from one of your enemies and used that.

versed inlet
zenith spoke
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yep Im on the side of let Gideon stay dead, move on to the next chapter. Good way to see it all out the door

languid acorn
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I cackled this time

jolly leaf
lusty oracle
tender zinc
versed inlet
versed inlet
tender zinc
versed inlet
tender zinc
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It’s the spite grass?

versed inlet
tender zinc
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😂

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Wait wait which condo

versed inlet
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Nice try lol

tender zinc
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My grandma lived in Laguna Niguel wanted to see how far

little lake
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This is a man who feels like he is entitled to be just as powerful as the Imperials whose boots he probably licked for years.

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The Empire falls, he takes control of a remnant and gets to promote himself from ISB agent to Moff.

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He starts dressing like Darth Vader with armor and a cape, wanting to make himself look just as scary.

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And presumably knowing that Palpatine has been obsessed with cloning himself for a long time, Gideon decides to make clones of his own self as well.

compact osprey
solid sail
winter flicker
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Yeah, Gideon’s been playing Vader Copycat for a long time

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Dressing similarly to Vader, carrying a lightsaber, his Beskar-alloy Dark Trooper armor making him physically stronger, and finally (though really ever since Season 1) trying to make Force-sensitive clones of himself

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And then he keeps running into Mandalorians and decides to copy them too, with Beskar Alloy armor complete with the ka’rta beskar (Iron Heart), Mando-style helm, and gauntlets with Mandalorian tools/weapons

bronze bough
orchid jasper
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Why doesn’t Din Grogu have a helmet or head covering?

little lake
orchid jasper
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So what level is he? Foundling? Apprentice? Or just a son?

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What level do you earn the helmet?

ornate oasis
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The helmet comes when he can speak the words at the waters like Ragnar Visla did.

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I’m not sure how the adoptee vs apprentice thing works or whether once a foundling, always a foundling.

little lake
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Grogu is an apprentice now, because his parent Din Djarin requested an exemption.

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Based on the conversation between Din Djarin and the Armorer, foundlings are generally supposed to take the Creed before becoming apprentices. However if the parents of the foundling request for the foundling to be trained as an apprentice prior to taking the Creed, this is allowed.
The exception can only be made with parental approval however—not mentor/teacher approval. So Din Djarin formally adopted Grogu as his son per Mandalorian law. Thus the exception could be made.

languid acorn
versed inlet
little lake
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There are no gifs of Axe Woves from Season 3 yet this is a crime against all Mandalorians.

versed inlet
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I agree

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Sir Woves was a hero and possibly now a dad

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And got like 10 times hotter

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Just saying

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I don't make the rules

little lake
bronze bough
little lake
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I love how their were no Mandalorian traitors, we’re just all biblically illiterate.

versed inlet
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little lake
versed inlet
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The perfect haha!

languid acorn
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It was fun having more to talk about.

versed inlet
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It really was though

little lake
# versed inlet This should be canon

What I also want to be canon is that when Axe and Koska realized Bo Katan really wasn’t going to go after Din and challenge him to single combat for the Darksaber, they decided there needed to be a mutiny and one of them was going to take command of the fleet.
Then they had a private fight in one of the light cruiser back rooms to figure out which one it would be. They duked it out until Axe won.
Then they did the mutiny.

languid acorn
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Solving mysteries and detective work gives those feel good juices.

tranquil oyster
ornate oasis
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So just a silly bit but kiddo pointed out that the chair Din Djarin is sitting in at the end is one we just saw at Costco last week. 🤣

tranquil oyster
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BACK TO COSTCO!

versed inlet
little lake
solid sail
languid acorn
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They used fans for hype and ideas?! Fair.

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We are pretty inspirational.

versed inlet
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We really are

languid acorn
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You are!

solid sail
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^^ not inspirational

little lake
bronze bough
languid acorn
gray herald
versed inlet
orchid jasper
earnest elbow
solid sail
bronze bough
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Shouldn't it be SIR Din Grogu? He WAS knighted after all.

little lake
gray herald
orchid jasper
earnest elbow
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Honestly the entire show will fall apart if Grogu starts talking lol

languid acorn
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"Boats and hoes"

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Grogu, no.

untold hearth
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😂

little lake
# orchid jasper But in order to become apprentice you must speak the creed. This gets negated by...

Speaking the Creed does not mean you immediately become an apprentice.
Ragnar Vizsla spoke the Creed (most of it anyway, before his ceremony was interrupted) and put on a helmet permanently. But when he was carried off by the winged dragon beast and they had to rescue him, everyone referred to him as a foundling. He wasn’t an apprentice yet.
Based on the conversation between Din Djarin and the Armorer, becoming an apprentice depends on your competence and capability. When your mentor/teacher deems you ready to become an apprentice, they petition for your advancement, and it becomes formally approved.
After Grogu survived three praetorian guards and protected Din Djarin and Bo Katan from the explosion (without passing out, just sitting down) I think Din decided Grogu was ready.

orchid jasper
little lake
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Sure why not.
It can be whatever you want it to be.

fallow frost
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ok hear me out
grogu>Praetorian guards (or at least survived)
praetorian guards>paz
paz>axe
axe<bo
bo>din
so theoretically
this is their strength levels

bo & grogu
din
guards
paz
axe

solid sail
hardy oak
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Any other sources than just this YouTube video?

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I was pretty bummed out that the rumors of Moff Gideon using Mauls recovered saber in the final fight didn't pan out, got super close with the double sided electric staff thing though lol.

untold hearth
bronze bough
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Ooooo

earnest elbow
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This didn't age well lmao

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jovial wedge
lusty oracle
earnest elbow
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There's zero chance he survived

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His armor doesn't completely cover his body so anything not covered would have been immolated

latent plume
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Zero chance that Gideon survived. But doesn't mean Gideon is gone.

fallow frost
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lets be honest, he's either gonna return looking like walmart Darth Vader or he has other clones.

fast sonnet
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Fennec Shand came back with robot guts after being shot and left for dead in a desert for a whole day. At this point I'm not surprised by anyone coming back to life in Star Wars.

languid acorn
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As a firefighters daughter I had to suspend some disbelief.

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But I did. And the bubble scene was pretty.

bronze bough
zenith spoke
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As a hunter if you gut shot a deer, they can go quite a while and run a long ways. In fact your lucky if you find it. That is the equivalent of what fennec had, while not fun it is survivable. I'll argue the full day as well

languid acorn
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Once again, I get to recommend watching Our Flag Means Death!

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Fennec is also very strong. Me? Nope I'd die instantly. But I believe her surviving it.

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Gideon would have cooked inside his armor.

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Although if he fell maybe he'd get out of the flames quick enough.

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That armor he likes so much might just be permanent now.

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A nasty thing to happen to him, for sure.

tranquil oyster
tranquil oyster
earnest elbow
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I doubt they'll do that

tranquil oyster
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Nah they'd put more effort in. I like the mustache idea even if it is very silly.

vocal pasture
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I’m just thinking about something

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How was Gideon able to ||literally crush the Darksaber in his hand?||

latent plume
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power armor enhancing his strength

vocal pasture
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Enough to break beskar?

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Thought the whole point of Beskar was that it’s incredibly strong

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Not like, so brittle that enhanced armor can make a rather lanky, senior dude shatter a solid chunk of it

ornate oasis
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The enhanced armor itself being made of beskar is likely a factor.

latent plume
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right. the saber isn't solid beskar, so the beskar armor crushed it into the hollow spaces for the guts.

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and now I've said beskar too much and it sounds weird

vocal pasture
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LOL same. I dunno I just feel like if it was that simple, how did nobody shatter the Darksaber sooner?

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Theoretically any force-sensitive would just be able to shatter it if they managed to get it in their grasp, no?

earnest elbow
vocal pasture
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Considering it was forged by a Mandalorian, I’d assume it was only natural, plus

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Source is a Rebels guidebook, so that’s canon

earnest elbow
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Even so I don't find it unbelievable, it was likely not very thick as it had to house all of the components of a lightsaber

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Also beskar is the most plot armor that ever plot armored lol

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Din's helmet doesn't take a scratch from being repeatedly punched by a dark trooper but Boba Fett has a dent in his from..... What?

vocal pasture
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That is fair

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Idk, just felt weird to see it get crumpled like that

gray herald
earnest elbow
gray herald
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Just passing along the info.

vocal pasture
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Is Bane’s blaster an especially high “caliber”?

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Cause then at least there’d be some explanation

earnest elbow
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Like I said, beskar is the most plot armor that ever plot armored lol

tranquil oyster
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It's worth seeking out the animatic of it because it's a pretty fun scene.

distant river
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Id boba’s helmet even beskar? Remember he used Jangos as an IEP. Thats the replacement helmet.

tranquil oyster
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Good point.

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The Clone Wars Mace Windu figure comes with the helmet broken in half with a thermal detonator inside it, which is cute.

vocal pasture
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Upon a rewatch, Gideon mentions that the armor is Beskar alloy

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Which explains why Bo could fight most of the commandos with the saber, and why blasters seemed somewhat effective, even if shots didn’t go between armor plates

vocal pasture
earnest elbow
earnest elbow
bronze bough
earnest elbow
ornate oasis
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Mando’s porch chair is in the current Costco Connection. 😂

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untold hearth
little lake
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Somewhere, in some Costco, this chair is there.

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And I hope that someone with Mando cosplay will find out about it, and go there in full getup with a Grogu doll and a little toy frog.

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To recreate the scene.

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And if they do it first thing in the morning they can probably snap a few photos before the actual Costco shoppers get ornery.

ornate oasis
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I’m going to Costco later. I wonder if I could get my Bo Katan helmet and Grogu in. 🤣 Also, my shirt today is appropriate.

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untold hearth
ornate oasis
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Too bad they don’t have the squishy Grogu plushies any more!

little lake
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Oh I remember that
They had Grogu squishmallows

ornate oasis
untold hearth
latent plume
ornate oasis
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That store was a ways away. 🤣