#td2-raid-discussions

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thorny bison
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Like 14 minutes is a speedrun for some people but not for others

pearl hemlock
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Agree

faint dragon
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Hello any available players here

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I just want to join a raid mission

dry laurel
coarse bobcat
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skill build viable in raids?

solemn flame
thorny bison
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@languid knot any particular reason you're teaching discovery?

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Like are you struggling to find a group on normal?

solemn flame
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teaching discovery? please tell me it ain't so......

tender hollow
# solemn flame teaching discovery? please tell me it ain't so......

One of my former clans used to have Teaching Discovery Raids that anyone with any build could join.

This was one of the prerequisites before you could join in a normal clan raid. Another was that you needed to have a 6 red core build with >=50 CHC and >=150 CHD for Dark Hours.

thorny bison
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Shit you guys couldn't see it because you're not xbox. I wasn't trying to make it a thing but didn't want to dm a stranger or type in the wrong chat

thorny bison
barren pawn
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Teaching raids should be done in normal period.

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And you should proceed to the next boss after 3 tries with no error's or fails in any circunstance

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Till people fully get it what to do , at least thats how i was thought

thorny bison
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I think it depends on the goal. If I'm teaching you so that you can lead raids or raid long term, it's different than teaching you so you can do enough to get a clear and the exotic

elder sedge
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😂 overcharged achilles pulse > ST 0 pulse

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Somehow group always has auto aim and aims for the weakpoint

marsh pebble
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what does rv2 mean

dim wharf
thorny bison
elder sedge
lyric plinth
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Wtf the ravenous do I googled it like 10 times and nothin shows up

signal basin
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?

solemn flame
long sky
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Works sorta like the merciless

solemn flame
dim wharf
solemn flame
dim wharf
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thats not armor, its weakpoints. damage to armor doesnt apply to that

solemn flame
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it works everywhere I try it.....

thorny bison
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I was under the impression it was for "armor plating"

dim wharf
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damage to armor, like from contractors gloves is what Im talking about not working.

thorny bison
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Like I'm not sure it works on the sniper pack? I'm not sure though

dim wharf
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it would

thorny bison
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Yeah I stopped speedrunning literally two days before those strats started

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So my knowledge is super limited and I go by word of mouth for now

thorny bison
west spruce
eager pasture
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when you guys choose randoms to raid with on Iron Horse do you prefer they come in with a dps build or would you prefer more heals or CC?

fluid pier
# eager pasture when you guys choose randoms to raid with on Iron Horse do you prefer they come ...

Depends on the raid cause for DH definitely prefer DPS builds but for IH definitely Heal+Tanks because otherwise you end up sitting there for hours waiting for someone to speak up who has the build but just doesn't want to play it lmfao. Most are more than happy/willing to teach someone how to do those roles if they don't know how as long as they're willing to learn and have the necessary build.

eager pasture
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what kind of damage numbers am i looking for with an optimized EB? i know this is a broad question, just looking for a general answer

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eb DPS build sorry

pearl hemlock
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Don’t use an EB

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Too many better ARs and then you can keep your exotic weapon for a much better option

solar pulsar
pearl hemlock
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Famas, M4, I like the shield splinterer but even it is sub par to the famas

solar pulsar
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thank you.

pearl hemlock
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Of course

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But with all of that said I think the EB is a fun gun to have due to its rarity in getting it

rough locust
rough lance
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Looking to do my first DH raid on Saturday, what is the best clan to work with on something like This?

eager pasture
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first iron horse done! now i need to run it a few more times so i can get my future initiatives and bulwark gear so i can start the regulus mission

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@pearl hemlock i agree its a ton of fun i love mine but youre right the famas it top teir

eager pasture
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is the only 2 that dont drop from raid sets are the chest and bag? bulwark and future

frigid hearth
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why do people play mic muted in the raid voices? isn't communication is key there?

heavy mulch
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@eager pasture I hit a steady 540k+ with my EB in PVE but for DZ I stick with the famas

frigid hearth
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eb is good if you can land headshots, otherwise damage to out of cover weapons are a bit better

heavy mulch
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Granted I’m no where near peak power, I’m SHD level 309 so I have a lot more to go I feel

frigid hearth
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like famas, police, carbine

tame sage
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The only bad about EB is lacking damage talent. That's it. It has good stats, i think best base damage among ARs, but no damage talent. So you ending up loosing up to 30%WD with in-sync, or up to some % aplified damage with ranger, optimist etc etc

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in PvP it compensated by granting you good defensive talent, but in PvE, especially in full red builds, the only good defence is better offence (which EB is lacking)

heavy mulch
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Yeah in PVE I run my EB with the striker shield and then the Vector SBR 9mm because it fits my play style in a sense that I can get close to enemies and proc my shields 11% damage bonus

long sky
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when eb 1st cameout it was awesome

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then it got nerfed a few times

dry laurel
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Yea before they nerfed it

long sky
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took away talents

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or adjusted them

dry laurel
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Shame. If it had DTOC at least...

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Just like big horn...new players chase to get it, try it for few days then goes into stash to switch to famas/ M4 etc with dtoc and fast hands or in sync for PvP

long sky
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i know mines been in the stash the day after i got it

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and it was from somone else🤣

dry laurel
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It is that "feel good" factor when you're pulling a raid exotic for new players

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Then later you realise everyone has 15 keys and nobody wants anything anymore...so every night I'm staring at the toilet door in Sector A of IH raid to kill same 2 NPCs every few seconds...

elder sedge
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Are there any proper "one shot" builds for razorback? Using the same as anyone elses but only deal about 75% damage to weak point

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Unless the other damage comes from the fully stack from ravenous (20 from left) and FI

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Same time or after shooting first time with d50?

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Oh then I gotta do that then

vagrant wing
elder sedge
vagrant wing
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This ^
When you say a one shot - it implies you actually kill razor with only one shot (which is still possible, albeit much more complicated than it sound)

ornate tiger
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How do u passively pass enough emotional damage onto fieser so tht he dies of emotional breakdown?

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How much unfair? And does it require any negotiations?

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Ohh yes

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Thts why he explodes when he dies

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Thx! For the help!

solid flame
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What type of builds are ran for DH again?

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I totally forgot tbh

cold elm
ornate tiger
timid bronze
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😂

signal basin
solid flame
trail oriole
solemn flame
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@icy hull

swift peak
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I never understand why these bot posts only get deleted one by one: if they nuke the poster it normally deletes everything they said

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Anyway the mod on it tonight is @final thunder

final thunder
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Yup!

swift peak
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Ta!

solar anchor
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How long raid takes

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Im hunting for Foundry bulwark set

strange loom
# solar anchor How long raid takes

the time it takes to complete the raids generally depends on how experienced the team is but to give you an estimate IH will usually take anywhere from 40 min - 1 hour and 20 min. DH can take anywhere from 20 min - 45 min on average

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the Foundry Bulwark and Future Initiative chest pieces and backpacks are exclusive to the Iron Horse raid and can be found from the loot dropped from the bosses if it is your first raid of the week and the chest at the end which requires 5 keys to open (weekly reset is every tuesday)

solar anchor
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Ok bro

steep stream
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so which would be a preferable build for a first timer on IH raid?
classic full red ar or healer?

feral epoch
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depend how well geared you are, healer build is pretty hard to assemble, full red is much easier (also easier as a role) that's how i see it at least (im also pretty new 🙂 )

signal basin
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Definitely a DPS build for a first time. As you continue learning the roles and strats, the other builds will come into play.

bitter sierra
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What are the types of tank builds for IH?
I know theres one FB for tanking last
TP for overall enemy debuffing
was there one with full armor regen build?
And im assuming either one of the FB and TP can have pointman and tardigrade?

signal basin
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I use a FB with armor regen atttributes. TP works because the team buffs. Pointman and Tardi are definitely helpful.

bitter sierra
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thank you for taking the time to tell me literally everything i wrote i already knew right above ❤️

signal basin
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You’re welcome

elder sedge
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How long does it take pc players to complete dark hours?

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And do i just join a random rv if i wanna?

feral epoch
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it would really depend on the group like any content ^^

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could be like between 45mn and 3h 🙂

elder sedge
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What about a noob like me whos never been on pc but has hundreds of clears on console?

feral epoch
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same depend on your group, im also a beginner but if you have a powerful group they can carry you 🙂

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also if you have cleared alot on console, you aren't a noob by a long shot, knowledge of the content is a powerful asset, now you just have to work on your mecanical skills to play on computer, but it'll come fast ^^

dim wharf
frosty blaze
elder sedge
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Even at a low shd lvl? 10 to be exact or will they not accept me cus no build

signal basin
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A good raid team should be able and willing to help anyone. Let them know you’re willing to do the best you can and willing to learn. Just continue working on your build as well.

gusty willow
# elder sedge Even at a low shd lvl? 10 to be exact or will they not accept me cus no build

Obviously depends on a group. I have no problem with beginner or 2 if they follow instructions. Things is still when you are getting into a group of 8 that you dont know and have no knowledge of game mode itself getting into it with some respect for people you are playing with is nice. Raids arent supposed to be done at that level. Can they be done? Sure but thing is there are other 7 people with you there everything is easier when people can do their job right

tender hollow
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Should I be trying to join a raid if I have only played on hard difficulty?

dim wharf
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probably not, its going to be quite a jump in difficulty

tender hollow
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So I should be getting to legendary as the default for raids then?

dim wharf
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at least be used to playing on heroic difficulty

muted horizon
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^
Raids are closer to Heroic, not exactly but it's a good scale.
just make sure you have a DPS build (that works well in Heroic) and you'll do fine.

tender hollow
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Is striker a good one?

dim wharf
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overall its fine, but its generally not what you want for the raids

tender hollow
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Oki, I'll have a look at different builds.

tender hollow
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Thank you 🙂

upper kite
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How long do u guys think does it take for my first DH clear? If I want to have every encounter explained to me and know all the mechanics by the end?

tender hollow
upper kite
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so basically I should watch a guide to understand the mechanics and then my first clear takes around 30 minutes then?

tender hollow
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Yep if you want to know most things just watch 2 or 3 youtube raid guide videos.

upper kite
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ok

frosty blaze
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Just get the general mechanics understood from watching videos and then when you join a lobby say you are new but know the general mechanics

serene mantle
# upper kite How long do u guys think does it take for my first DH clear? If I want to have e...

There are videos on YT that'll go into detail for every section of DH. No one expects a new raider to memorize everything but it'd be good to have some idea. The raid lead will likely give you a brief rundown of your task.

Best thing to do is to bring a full-DPS build. If there isn't a healer on the team or if you feel you're dying too easily, make sure to have an Unbreakable chest or Memento backpack.

The only expectation raiders have of you are: kill things, don't die.

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Also, I recommend doing the raid a few times, get exposed to it, and learn a few of the mechanics each time. It's a huge drain on ppl's time to teach you every mechanic in one raid.

frosty blaze
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^ This. If you can sustain yourself by killing ads and having a reviver hive, you are good to go

thorny bison
upper kite
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yes but having kind of a rough idea what happens during the fights does help, no?

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instead of just walking around shooting whatever your team leader tells you to shoot

thorny bison
# upper kite yes but having kind of a rough idea what happens during the fights does help, no...

I'm a "learn to crawl before walking" person. Don't be a hero. Do your job until you master it and then move on to a new job. I.E. there is no need for you to know how to kite boomer or run drones on your first clear, since you'll likely be on Ad control or a generator. Explaining that is a waste of time until you know the basics (how to guard a door, hit computers,etc). Maybe after a couple clears it's time to graduate. You're also splitting your learning between multiple groups so you can learn what strats you like as well as building a network of players.

frosty blaze
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@frosty pond Iron Pony Soon™️

frosty pond
frosty pond
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just dm me lol

cursive rain
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How long do raids take?

solemn flame
# cursive rain How long do raids take?

depends on the team, builds, and experience. a new player in a strong experienced team can get dark hours done in under an hour. iron horse is more complex with more mechanics. maybe an hour and a half to 2 hours.

cursive rain
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I'm finishing up WONY now, then want to do the episodes, then grind, then raids.

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Seems like making a DPS build is best

thorny bison
cursive rain
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@thorny bison it's Tamb0

thorny bison
cursive rain
thorny bison
cursive rain
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Ummmm sure but id want 8

elder sedge
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So then if i wanna join raids on pc how do i join rv? Join it then go back to game? And what about invites? Is it /invite (name)?

dim wharf
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Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay.

elder sedge
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Then for adding do i need to open up uplay to accept or will there be a popup on screen?

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Cause that sounds complicated

dim wharf
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shift+f2 opens up the uplay overlay, but I personally just use the ubi connect launcher instead

strong niche
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what RV (number) means ? like DH RV10 ?

signal basin
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RV is raid voice. So Dark Hours Raid Voice 10

strong niche
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oh ok ty

signal basin
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Yep

tender hollow
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Someone do a raid DH need a eagle bear

icy hull
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wrong channel, please use the Raid LFG channel @tender hollow

tender hollow
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someone is building ironhorse ?

cedar crater
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Raids are pointless in this game everytime I've joined a raid it has taken hours because of people leaving or getting disconnected it makes me never want to raid in division again

warm wren
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I'm sorry ya feel that way, but i'd suggest getting a solid group. Most lfg raids take less than an hour on average.

cedar crater
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I've tried to raid three different times in this game every time it's been a struggle to get it finished

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It has put a bad taste in mouth for raiding in division

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I've raid hundreds of raids in destiny not once have a spent more time waiting in a raid than I have doing said raid during vision I've spent more time trying to get a raid group who has a grasp on things to get it done than actually doing the raid

fluid pier
cedar crater
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I know the builds and the mechanics... I main destiny I've done hundreds of raids but in division it just seems like getting a good group is the hardest part

fluid pier
# cedar crater I know the builds and the mechanics... I main destiny I've done hundreds of raid...

I mean, destiny and division are two different games. Just cause you’ve raided in destiny doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll know the div raids well. If you’ve only done the raids 3 times, I’m not so sure you can accurately assess whether or not the group is “good” or not. You probably just happened to have newer raiders in your group which made it a little harder to get through. Keep in mind the average experienced lfg group for IH on average takes anywhere between 45min-1hr+ and about half that range for DH (about 20min-35min). You didn’t specify which raid(s) nor how many hours it took to complete the three raids you were in but when you have newer raiders in the group, it’ll typically take nearly double those times.

cedar crater
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Yea that's not what I'm saying tho I can see trying and failing and things I'm talking about actually waiting for someone or trying to get 8 people together or when your in the raid someone leaves or something always happens with lfg in division is what I'm getting at

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It's been a bad experience

fluid pier
# cedar crater Yea that's not what I'm saying tho I can see trying and failing and things I'm t...

Perhaps it’s more of a console thing as I see you’re on Xbox/PS4 but it’s fairly easy to group 8 experienced people together on PC and people seldom leave. I’m on PS5 as well as PC and from what I’ve noticed, you’ll have a far better time raiding in the division if you look for the little community servers as opposed to the official division server when it comes to raiding on console.

cedar crater
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Yea I think it's because I've played solo for so long I don't have clan never had a raid team so it's been hard for me to find a group... Just getting discouraged

fluid pier
thorny bison
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Add me and I'll get you through tomorrow

cedar crater
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@thorny bison no not you you were great but i wasn't referencing just that Ive had terrible luck with raids in this game

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I'm so sorry about what happened to you as well I hope you got all cleaned up btw

thorny bison
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Then from there you network

cedar crater
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Thanks bro I appreciate it I'll put it this way out of several raid attempts I've completely one

thorny bison
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That sucks bro. Once you see how it works with an organized group I think you'll enjoy it.

cedar crater
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Yea I'm hoping so I think maybe I'm just getting bad luck... I really appreciate it I'll add you

elder sedge
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Imagine not getting the eagle bearer or ravenous out the box whenever you open it

keen lance
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Sorry guys noob question, does the FI chest/backpack drop on DH, or IH?

frosty blaze
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more chances on IH

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same goes for Foundry Bulwark

keen lance
west spruce
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As of now they are IH raid exclusive, so you will not find them in DH raid.

long sky
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Eb is dh exclusive, fi/bulwark chest and backpack along with ravenous and regulos are IH exclusive

ornate tiger
signal basin
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Hmm…

ornate tiger
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long sky
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@ornate tiger no they didn't

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What you might have seen was they just did dh together and hopped in a ih real quick then was dropped for someone

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Or you miss took it for the ravenous

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Same platform

ornate tiger
rich copper
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Somone is messing with you. There is no literal way it just drops. It always comes out of the cache.

ornate tiger
signal basin
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The Eagle Bearer can drop from a boss, seen it happen, however, it’s only tied to the DH raid. Nowhere else.

rich copper
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How long ago was that? Because I swear they patched that.

signal basin
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Couple months. It was god rolled also.

ornate tiger
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this year

rich copper
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Not you. I don't believe you and never will lol. I'm referring to timmy.

signal basin
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Not doubting it was an EB, just saying it can’t come from the IH raid is all

signal basin
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Scroll up, already answered

rich copper
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Timmy. Only way I can see that being a thing is if everyone already one in the raid.

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That or console is just dif lol

signal basin
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That’s cool dude. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just saying what I’ve personally seen.

muted horizon
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iirc about 1% from each boss, 10% from the final chest.

gusty willow
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I’m pretty sure there’s 1% for exotic to drop not specifically raid exotic

thorny bison
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I've personally seen people get EBs from boomer. Meanwhile I have a ton of clears and have never had an EB drop from a boss.

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You can also get the regulus from IH bosses

dense ice
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i just did a raid and someone in our group got it

hot jolt
dense ice
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ah gotcha

frosty blaze
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raid channels being empty today 👀

muted horizon
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Source?

stark sandal
frosty blaze
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time to start one 😂

hot jolt
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i managed to get the nemesis once from williams

frosty blaze
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1% Exotic Drop with 0.024% of it being EB.

stark sandal
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So basically if u get it from a boss ur just mad lucky

hot jolt
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pretty much, yeah

muted horizon
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Literally the first time I've heard that, and I've heard the other way more often.
any source on your claim?

hot jolt
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can't relate though, i have shitty luck

frosty blaze
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I read somewhere that the bosses have 1% chance of dropping any one of eight exotics in the raid (including the raid exotics).

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Let me grab the article

muted horizon
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eh dw about it, I don't trust articles from random places with info about div2.

stark sandal
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Man how about yall hop over to the PSN side lol. Lookin a lil too empty this morning

eager pasture
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join us on the darkside, we have cookies and 240 fps

rough locust
eager pasture
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all seriousness sometimes i wish the game was crossplay at least for pve so we could group with more people

rough locust
west spruce
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Yup, 1% exotic drop includes non raid exotic, which makes EB/Regulus drop etc much more rarer from bosses during reset run.

hot jolt
rough locust
west spruce
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And @long sky scenario is correct, EB drop being visible in IH is due to the same group of players running both raid back to back and the EB is still shareable. That's the most logical scenario.

limber drift
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Never done a raid (no one to play with) but i want the eagle bearer so bad! Anyone wants to help me out? 😅

muted horizon
gusty willow
# muted horizon Source?

No source. Simple statistics. I completed about 1200 raids in total which means 4 bosses per raid equals 4800 and if you take that 1% theory to test that would be on average 48 raid exotics from raid bosses themselves. With that being said I saw few exotics dropping from raid bosses. Something like 6-7 but never got EB or any other raid exclusively drop from boss. Either that 1% is completely wrong which makes more sense or I’m insanely unlucky

pearl hemlock
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Insanely unlucky I would guess

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I have seen regulus and EB drop from bosses

gusty willow
pearl hemlock
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Yea the RNG can be rough sometimes but I’m just saying it can happen

icy hull
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FYI that 1% chance for DH boss exotic drop is an average 1%, not fixed. Source is datamining for DH. IH wasn’t datamined BUT assumed to be the same was DH. @gusty willow@muted horizon

dim wharf
# gusty willow No source. Simple statistics. I completed about 1200 raids in total which means ...

Keep in mind you'll only have a chance at the exotics in the first run of the week, so it won't be x/1200 runs, it will be less. But I still think 1% per boss has always sounded quite high to me. I've gotten 2 ebs in DH but I don't think I've gotten any ravs (from bosses not crates) in a roughly equal amount of runs. No idea how many of those were "fresh" runs, but I'm still no where close to 1% per boss, and definitely don't see it dropping often enough for others to think it's 1%. It's hard to argue with data mined info, but that data mined info was likely done quite awhile ago and could likely have been adjusted since then.

gusty willow
dim wharf
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Yeah, I agree. It's definitely possible, or at least was at some point, but I think the people with hundreds of runs know there's no way it can be 1% per boss.

pearl hemlock
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I’m not sure that’s a realistic statement

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It very well could be 1% just because people have hundreds of clears it’s only valid for 1 clear per week

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The raid has been out for less 3 years so that’s less than 156 clears that can be counted per character in those chances

gusty willow
pearl hemlock
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I’m not saying the 1% is right or wrong just that you can’t say you ran it 1200 times and say that’s sufficient evidence that it’s not right

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The raids have always been that you get a chance at loot specific on the first clear of the week so any clears after that before reset is a 0% chance from the boss

dim wharf
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also keep in mind how rare it is just to see someone in your group get a drop. its not 1% per run, assume your running on a reset day with 8 people having a shot 4 times. you would see that every now and again, but as it stands its much more rare to see

gusty willow
icy hull
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FYI, that 1% isnt just “1% chance for raid exotic” it’s a “1% for the boss to drop any exotic including raid ex”.

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also yes its only for the boss raid drop (so 1st clear)

dim wharf
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a completely fresh group would have 32 chances at it. so 1-.99^32=27.5% chance of seeing it happen in a group

dim wharf
pearl hemlock
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I can see it’s clearly not getting through how it works so I’m gonna stop trying to explain it

dim wharf
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tbh I think we are mostly all on the same page, dragon correct me if I'm wrong

icy hull
pearl hemlock
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No I think you get it. I mean for all we know it could be a 5% chance I don’t think that they have ever come out and officially said what the chances are

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It could also be .00001% who knows

icy hull
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Devs never said the chance. But dataminers found it in the coding (well found the average chance), so it is an official number.

pearl hemlock
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There you go lol

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I never looked to see how they got the number just that it was the number

dim wharf
icy hull
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TU 9 is what is recent posted, and my follow up is TU 10 or 11. (so still wony)

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also highly doubtful the drop chance changed. it was the same 1% as of like Tu4 or 5 and stayed the same upto the last check.

drifting wedge
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people have gotten it to drop before WONY

icy hull
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not the question Jay.

drifting wedge
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o nvm

west spruce
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Keep in mind that exotic materials are a common drop amongst razorback drops, and I would imagine that's part of the 1% chance, those doesn't usually show up as part of the pick up so they might be glossed over.

icy hull
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That I'm not sure, as IH wasn't datamined. That 1% is for DH. iH is assumed to be the same though ( for exotic item not material)

west spruce
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Yeah, the rate is pretty low to begin with and with so many exotics now being part of the pool, it probably further dilutes that drop being EB alone. At least the raid end chest has a higher chance and guaranteed piece.

icy hull
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raid end chest is 10% for EB iirc.

livid hare
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Please excuse my ignorance, I've been playing D2 for years but always stayed away from Raids... hoping to join a dark horse raid for gear. Any advice as to how I can make that happen?

dim wharf
# livid hare Please excuse my ignorance, I've been playing D2 for years but always stayed awa...

Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it.

livid hare
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Wow, it's crazy that it's so complicated, that we can't just be matched via the game itself, but that said, I really appreciate people like you being so helpful😊 I'll follow those directions then, thanks Raucey!

muted horizon
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Ta Azur, thanks for the actual solid info.
div2salute .

tender hollow
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whats the name of the old raid? xD

muted horizon
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the two raids (in order of release) are:
Dark Hours, and Iron Horse.

hot jolt
covert wolf
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@echo burrow thats my fav..

hot jolt
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ubi when matchmaking on normal lmao

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imagine having friends

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couldn't be me

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i still get yelled at by the leader during matchmaking though :/

marble folio
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Hi, I am looking for players for the eagle bearer raid please.

marble folio
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Thx

icy hull
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wrong channel. please use the raid LFG one.@green hedge

long sky
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Ok here goes let me say good Evening to rivens, isabel, wyvern, and meowcat

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O crap forgot Raucey

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🤣

plain anvil
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Yo, I'm new here
are there raid tutorial vids that you guys recommended? wanna try the raids some time

tender stag
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check out @rigid onyx
gotta learn to run before you walk

hot jolt
tender hollow
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@stoic cipher if you know basics then it's cool, do some raids and enjoy them.
After some time, if you want to go hardcore or learn some tricks, look into things like "Method behind the madness".

cosmic vault
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hello there i havent played in a very long time division thought this game is going dead dnt have much but is there a way to get the vector exotic weapon or somthing like that

muted horizon
long sky
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hey rivens and wookie

fast bloom
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Hey guys, pretty new to the game. Just finished the main campaign, DLC, and Summit. I've put about 100 hours into the game, and I'm looking for some groups to help me learn the raids so I can get the Regulus.

dim wharf
icy hull
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@bleak eagle wrong channel, please is the raid LFF channel.

south atlas
# fast bloom Hey guys, pretty new to the game. Just finished the main campaign, DLC, and Summ...

Make sure you have either a DPS build or heals build ready to go, both would be good. When you get into the party, make sure they know your new to raids, and make sure it’s okay they carry you. Hours don’t matter when it comes to raids, raids are much different from the main shit. Moving on from that, I recommend you start on Dark hours and learn that raid first, it’s much easier, and takes 20-30 minutes with a group who knows what they are doing. Iron horse is much harder and has many more mechanics. Iron horse will take you anywhere from an hour to an hour 1/2. Be prepared.

dim wharf
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You don't want to go into your first raid with only a healer build. You will be dead weight for certain parts, and having raid experience is pretty important for the role. Plus you won't have the FI chest which is a key part of the build.

frosty rock
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Where's mans at? Does he want video proof??

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@covert wolf

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neither, just play the game

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3000+ hours

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and counting

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Why do you instantly think I'm cheating?

tender stag
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@covert wolf
aj_gadz18 is a cheater, i played with him before
all he does is shoot everything in the head and run ahead of the whole raid group
/s

normal mirage
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I can't tell if he understood the /s

frosty rock
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He's lying, he's in my clan and making fun...

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bad darky

tender stag
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aj gadz is stinky boy

muted horizon
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Can y'all just quit it? Take it to PMs if you're gonna fight.

frosty rock
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what is /s

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just answer my question, what makes you think I'm cheating?

tender stag
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oh he has ps4 tag
he probably doesnt know what a headshot is

frosty rock
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I'm confused, am I cheating or just playing the game with it's current intended use?

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Why am I getting flamed and being accused of cheating??? just answer the question lol

tender stag
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lol yea why are you being targeted
all inquires should be direct to @rigid onyx

frosty rock
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He's sleeping tho

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And my team too lol

tender stag
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we dont talk about him

frosty rock
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I'm not aimbotting either

tender stag
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LMAO SHOW HIM THE EDITED TARMAC COPTER

frosty rock
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I told you, we did the IH raid in under 16 minutes with no cheats or anything. Why do you think I'm cheating?

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at&t spectrum

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why does that matter lol

tender stag
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LMAO

frosty rock
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There's multiple teams now that are sub 16, I'm so confused why you don't believe me

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AND I told you I have video proof

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actually, multiple videos of proof, I can show you OMN run too

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for what?

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a link? bad word?

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a what?

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I think I know what you're trying to say

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but like, why lmao

muted horizon
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auto-mod has certain queues it auto-blocks. Too many in a row and you get a ban.

frosty rock
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I'm just so confused. I'm trying to show this guy that's supposedly a super experienced player that's it's possible to do sub 16min Iron Horse, but he won't believe me and won't even answer my only question of "why do you think I'm cheating"...

rigid onyx
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Maybe he should learn the methods behind the madness

tender stag
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what the fuck is he saying

frosty rock
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I can't tell if I'm being trolled or if he genuinely doesn't believe me

normal mirage
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trying to do mental gymnastics to figure that statement out as well

frosty rock
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What does this mean?!?

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Devs! Please do something!!

tender stag
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tf is tag along
tagalong the cookies?

normal mirage
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it means he's trying to live rent free in ppls head and he's rage baiting

tender stag
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im confused baited

muted horizon
frosty rock
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idk, I think he doesn't speak english very well and still actually think's we're cheaters

muted horizon
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or Doritos.

frosty rock
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or that we work at ubi, still don't know why that would matter

tender stag
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rent free

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where do i sign up to live there

frosty rock
muted horizon
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it's true right? The only people that use it also still use "trolled". That hasn't been a thing since 2005.

rigid onyx
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boom roasted

frosty rock
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Wait, so do you actually believe we're cheating?? I'm actually interested in the answer @covert wolf

tender stag
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wait so all im getting out of this is that working for ubisoft gives you perks that allow you to cheat?

muted horizon
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15:39 for IH speedrun, there's a video up on Youtube.
how is this still a question?

tender stag
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PLUGGGGG

frosty rock
rigid onyx
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das me

frosty rock
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das me too

muted horizon
tender stag
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das men't

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LOL

frosty rock
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Man, I'ma bouta carry you to an english class

fluid pier
tender stag
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ye aj got carried

frosty rock
muted horizon
tender stag
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toxic for not posting everyone's links and only astros

frosty rock
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LMAO, what a homie

tender stag
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get em out

frosty rock
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all our links are in the description

muted horizon
frosty rock
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don't listen to darky

rigid onyx
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better not show that guy our duo stuff XD

muted horizon
tender stag
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what?

frosty rock
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Just gonna say this now, anyone that is doing sub18 min IH, nobody on that team is getting carried

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gotta be a skilled group to do sub18 IH

tender stag
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cap
ex: @cold elm

muted horizon
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Even sub-20 is still pretty darn impressive.

rigid onyx
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team work makes the dream work babeeeeeeeeeee

frosty rock
muted horizon
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Wish I could, but I've had div2 uninstalled for about 3 months now.

rigid onyx
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rip

muted horizon
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ta for the offer tho, I appreciate it.

frosty rock
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lack of content will do that to ya, I'm still holding out for the moment haha

tender stag
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duplicating?

muted horizon
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I play online stuff in chunks. So I return when there's a buncha stuff to do, then bail again.

tender stag
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replicating?

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but the game is the same for console

muted horizon
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Cherry, you've got the PC tag.

frosty rock
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idk, mans thinks we're hackers and I can't figure out why, tried asking about 7 different times now

muted horizon
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literally me_rn
web hunter 4 lyf

frosty rock
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HE'S DUPLICATING, CONFIRMED!!!

tender stag
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MITOSIS
MODS HELP ME IM SCARED

muted horizon
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ahhhhh jumped my chance.

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well played ducky'

west spruce
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@covert wolf I raided with you on LFG the other day, you are definitely easier to understand over voice than text here. Is there something that you are not familiar about in terms of standard raid vs speedrun strat?

tender stag
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tyty

muted horizon
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Imagine the des2 raids in div2.
the absolute chaos.

fluid pier
rigid onyx
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div needs more raids sigh

tender stag
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aj maybe hes just jealous

rigid onyx
muted horizon
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you trailed off there.

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did you mean to duplicate your words?

frosty rock
rigid onyx
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wait I thought you called someone a cheater or something

tender stag
rigid onyx
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im lost XD

tender stag
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@covert wolf so is aj a cheater or just stingy for not sharing his speed strats

west spruce
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@covert wolf they are just having friendly banter in chat, it's by no means undermining running the raid in a typical fashion

frosty rock
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?? I was so nice to you, what the??

fluid pier
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@covert wolf what makes you think having a headshot dmg build equates to cheating?

frosty rock
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literal proof, go read my messages, I was never once aggressive in any way

tender stag
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hitting more than 30% headshots is cheating duh

frosty rock
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You tried to call me a bad word and it got blocked lol

west spruce
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@covert wolf @lunar warren and @frosty rock are friends in a way, they are just joking to each other

frosty rock
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what the heck is going on

fluid pier
# tender stag hitting more than 30% headshots is cheating duh

No, that wasn't his point. His point was having a HSD build at all equates to cheating. He never said anything about actually landing the shots. So he's claiming that regardless of whether or not you land a headshot, you're considered cheating as long as you're running a headshot dmg build on PC.

west spruce
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and I think calling out the wrong RV is just an observation that hopefully doesn't trigger anyone

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it's just words lost in translation, I can understand cherrymon better in voice LFG the other day

calm grail
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🍿

frosty rock
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And also, I've done probably over 1000 LFG raids haha

timid bronze
icy sand
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This is getting interesting

rigid onyx
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idek whats going on XD

fluid pier
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man you really gotta chill with your word usage lol

frosty rock
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I'm so confused, not once did I get aggressive with this guy and I also tried to even explain to him that I'm not cheating and wanted to provide video evidence. Then all of a sudden I'm a mouthy F word and don't do LFG's.

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I feel attacked!

tender stag
frosty rock
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Just clearing my throat

valid marlin
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The hell is going on in here???

fluid pier
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AJ is getting attacked for not doing lfgs that's what. And apparently he's a mouthy F

frosty rock
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Not sure, some guy said I was cheating, then I said I wasn't and then he called me an f word

tender stag
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@covert wolf why u block me
do you hate help or facts and logic

valid marlin
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Next time please send a message to ModMail and don't engage with those kind of people anymore.

fluid pier
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Agreed.

tender stag
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well this was after civilized discussions broke down

muted horizon
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to be fair, it was mostly after the memes.

tender stag
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there was an effort at genuine discussion

frosty rock
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Yeah, I was completely trying to help the guy, then he just went ballistic on me

timid bronze
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crazy o_o

calm grail
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sadly this conversation came to an end, it was so genuine.

normal mirage
west spruce
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He was fairly reasonable and polite in raid, I think it might be the friendly banter between players were being misconstrued as personal attacks somehow

fluid pier
frosty rock
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I'm so confused why he called me that

west spruce
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I was referring to your message pointing out the RV and banter with Blitz

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Somehow he took it personal

strange loom
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he might have been sticking up for blitz or something

frosty rock
timid bronze
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damn, shit always slaps in 4k

frosty rock
strange loom
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maybe he knew how to listen and speak but not read and write lol

valid marlin
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Ok, back to raid discussions now. Thanks! div2love

lunar warren
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it all just started with me just putting a message for dh for new guy finish his first dh u guys made it to a speed run normal run discussion lol

lunar warren
lunar warren
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u should probably click xbox icon in server roles before asking question here this is pc section correct me if i am wrong

icy hull
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it is NOT the pc only section. this is just the general raid discussion channel. for LFG, please use the specific raid LFG platform ones.

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@ruby kelp @lunar warren^^

viral iron
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Hello, I got a question about crafting blueprints. I have a few blocked at my crafting station. It says "Operation Dark Hours". I have completed this raid a total of 4 times so far. What am I doing wrong?

icy hull
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those raid blue prints are a RNG drop from the raids and only drop on normal mode.

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also only during the 1st boss kill each reset.

viral iron
icy hull
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that i dont know.

tender hollow
regal wren
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So i am interested in getting into raids, mostly for the rewards but if i enjoy them, i would add them to my roster of activities. I am just curious to know how geared up i should be.
At the moment i have a full red crit (which could work for dps), a healing build, a status effect/add clear (if thats needed) and now im just wondering what else i should do to prepare?
Would watching a video on mechanics help or would in game practice help?
Thabks for the help!

gusty willow
cinder dragon
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can somebody help me get the eagle bearer

viral iron
elder sedge
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For a raid regulus build should i use punch drunk or normal mask?

dim wharf
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Only place I really use punch drunk in the raids is for grey where I run more headshot/crit build vs the normal pure crit build.

kind token
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@elder sedge .. you want to hit 50 CHC / 150 CHD for a raid build the base build is .. 3 prov 1 groupo 1 foxes 1 contractors with an M1A and AR

stiff zephyr
winged echo
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looking for raid

valid marlin
thorny bison
grave obsidian
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I am trying to get the regulus, any groups doing the iron horse raid?

icy hull
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wrong channel, please use the Raid LFG one.@grave obsidian

grave obsidian
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Thanks

grave obsidian
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Quick question, is this only for PC players?

muted horizon
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There is one for each platform.
so xbox, ps, and pc.

grave obsidian
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Cant see where the PS5 one is labeled?

swift peak
icy hull
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PS5 and PS4 is the exact same game@grave obsidian

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same game and grouping for both PS5 and PS4 as same servers.

tender hollow
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What should the Backpack talent be of the IH tank?

pearl hemlock
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Depends most use protector though.

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For IH tank you want a full hazpro with armor regen TP works well so you can give the team buffs

tender hollow
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just need the talent ty

pearl hemlock
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See first response

icy hull
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wrong channel, please use the raid LFG ones. @green birch

stark urchin
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hello everyone how do i get raid help pls

icy hull
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If looking for a group, it would be through the LFG channels, so #lfg-raid-pc

rare flare
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are there any decent guides for Iron Horse to read or watch that explain the mechanics?

long sky
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hey AZ Raucey

faint leaf
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Why is the LFG thread read only?

spare iron
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I want to join a raid group on PlayStation platform

icy hull
spare iron
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Ok

icy hull
upbeat cloak
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No one inside IH discovery?

swift peak
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Not much point in discovery raids, you don't get any of the loot or learn the more complex mechanics

tender hollow
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Anyone building a raid team hit me up...

swift peak
coral wing
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Looking for help with learning raid mechanics on IH

versed cedar
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te?

thorny bison
swift peak
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(or wait till they fix it tomorrow)

icy hull
thorny bison
fallen yacht
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anyone raiding on pc ? 😄

swift peak
delicate palm
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Been a hot minute since I’ve played, what’s rv10?

hybrid swallow
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What's up all - Been into Div2 last 3 weeks after, was a Div1 no lifer lol. Trying to get to know what the current builds and roles? are looking like for getting in to Raid, any head starts? Thanks

lament arch
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Do the projects for the regulus reset weekly?

long sky
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If your talking about obtaining the chests and backpacks yes

fluid pier
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@haughty sky did you get pieces from all the other bosses?

fluid pier
# haughty sky yes

Just to confirm, it was your first raid of the week? You got a piece from opening the chest with your keys as well?

fluid pier
# haughty sky yes

Might’ve just been bugged. Try doing a second raid and see if it drops. If not, you might have to wait one more week.

vapid sundial
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how many of the crafting reasources that only drop in iron horse actually drop after each clear?

subtle storm
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New raid guy wanting to know where can i get that OP pistol

feral tinsel
muted horizon
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@upbeat pilot "Fresh" in raid terms usually means a run from the start, or similar.

upbeat pilot
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Keys does not carry over from week to week, correct?

elder sedge
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Anyone else feel once the new content drops the raids are gonna get nerfed again heavily in terms of boss damage

vagrant wing
tender hollow
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Im spanish what means lfg ?

valid marlin
tender hollow
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ª okay thx

long sky
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morning Isabel

orchid horizon
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who do i need to add @mortal bronze

tidal atlas
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im confused wht does RV mean again?

signal basin
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Raid voice

tidal atlas
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ohh ok thx

elder sedge
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Why can't raid keys reset daily? I mean more and more ftc's are being run through the raids

compact mango
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shrugs probably because if it could be done daily then people would get burnt out very quickly opposed to waiting weekly to get the keys

thorny bison
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I like the way it is currently. Let's say you don't get the eb on Tuesday, now you have 2 reasonable choices: wait until next Tuesday or take the time to learn the mechanics which makes you more useful to future groups and future ftcs

viral eagle
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Hello Everyone. I'm looking for a group to hunt down the EB. So how does this work? I'm new to this discord stuff.

valid marsh
tender hollow
# elder sedge Why can't raid keys reset daily? I mean more and more ftc's are being run throug...

Just last boss farm. 4 phase only takes ~8.5min. So say it takes 3.5 mins to loot and reinvite everyone, that is 8 people opening the box every 1 hr.

But nowadays almost everyone has the EB and don't want another, so new players will most probably get it if they run the raid several times.

Also like the guys before said, doing more raids is useful. You become a better team player and a better player, not just in raids.

ivory rampart
muted horizon
long sky
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Morning rivens

young vapor
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As someone who’s done Destiny raids and moved onto Div 2 raids, I can say that, quite frankly, Div 2 raids need a hell of a lot more prep and experience.

muted horizon
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After a few runs, Div2 raids can be quicker than Scourge'

grave ember
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I have done both Destiny Raids and Div 2 raids. Destiny raids have more mechanics and Div 2 requires more load out build. Both of the have good raids just a little different approach

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As for Div2 I prefer IB raid as it requires more build variety as DH raid is a pure DPS raid

valid marsh
# young vapor As someone who’s done Destiny raids and moved onto Div 2 raids, I can say that, ...

honestly Div2 in general requires a hell of a lot of IQ to play properly...
The Raids being one require a stupid amount of brain power to figure out, i honestly have no idea how people managed to figure out the puzzles for IH
Another being the Hunter Puzzles. Kuddos to the 3000 IQ people on reddit who figured it out back in the day, it takes fantastic map knowledge and memory just to know where all the pieces are, let alone figuring out what piece goes where. and then theres time gating on top of that

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id say its impossible without the devs giving some kind of hints so that has to have been it...

regal wren
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I have a few questions.. will the exotics drop if im on discovery mode? Are mics needed 100% or can i get away with doing a bunch of dmg on a dps build? And lastly, where can i find what exotics are raid exclusive? Sorry for the chunk of text.

icy hull
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  1. raid exclusives will only drop on normal mode.
  2. mics are not needed but knowing the basics of what to do/ having a good dps build are must haves.
  3. the pinned spreadsheet in #build advice lists the gear locations among more stuff.
regal wren
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Awesome thanks so much for the info!

dim wharf
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Mics are generally expected, especially if your new to the raids

icy hull
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not needed BUT very helpful and highly recommended.

#

and yea what Raucey said.

distant blaze
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Anyone running ih raid

valid marlin
distant blaze
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@valid marlin thanks for the heads up 😊

long sky
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Night Isabel

valid marlin
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Hey Saph div2love

noble surge
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Who tryna do a raid

magic fulcrum
royal jay
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How often can you get Ironworks base materials? Can you get it from iron horse on discovery or do u need to do it on normal? Trying to complete projects.

royal jay
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@tender hollow thanks 👍

elder sedge
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Seems i can no longer do so. Tried razorback yesterday and was only taking down half and doing upto 50 mill damage. Tried doing it both fast and slow but nope

long sky
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Hey meowcat

lusty breach
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listen guys the BigHorn has been buffed and boy does it hit hard but wait dont use it in danger close use it long range

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oh and have all true DPS that is all

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one more thing to say

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The darkwinter works well with it

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ugh forgot to say this use or get the TDI kard custom it well real help you even more

brave scaffold
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For regulus parts does it matter if you've cleared IH already will it still drop the parts

swift peak
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But only if you don't already have a completed regulus in inventory or stash

proven storm
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how hard is dark hours raid, as a returning player who has not done any of this games raids and doesnt have the “best” builds?

proven storm
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@tender hollow thank you 🙏🏼

thorny bison
dusk wyvern
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Is anyone willing to teach/ help in a raid. Wanna get the regulus

sharp forge
valid marsh
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the spreadsheet only gets you so far
you need first hand experience from a raid leader
may i recommend K1ng and SlavicPony

long sky
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@dusk wyvern run a IH raid that will get you the 5 new projects and in the end will get you the regulos

dusk wyvern
long sky
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Have you run DH

dusk wyvern
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i havent ran any riads before.

long sky
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Ok kool ,best advice is to have a strong dps build,hop in a rv ,let them know your new. And start with dh then step up to IH

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DH is dps and little mechanics

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IH is dps and bunch o mechanics

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And raid leader will let you know what to do or need from you

dusk wyvern
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are you trying to do it with me?

valid marsh
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kinky

long sky
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i run raids from time to time

agile gust
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Anybody wanna do the airport raid?

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Shoot my bad sorry lol

muted horizon
icy hull
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Wrong channel, please use the lfg Channel for that @lusty breach

crude rock
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I’m trying to do a raid but I never actually ran one it’s hard to get into a lobby any help would be nice

feral epoch
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There are often beginner friendly groups, just monitor the #lfg-raid-pc channel and you'll find some groups for sure, you can also try and start one saying you are a beginner looking for mates 🙂

crude rock
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@feral epoch good looks

feral epoch
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^this

crude rock
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I have perfect glass cannon wit 60 crit hit and 187 crit damage

feral epoch
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you take very high damage in raids, be careful of that with glass canon, you may want to go for another talents on your early runs, you risk dying alot otherwise 🙂

#

sound good otherwise, you seems ready 🙂

crude rock
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I have 1.3mil for armor

muted horizon
# crude rock I have 1.3mil for armor

Armour matters very little overall in div2, the only consistent way to "tank" shots is to have a Shield up.
and fyi: 1.3 mil seems like a lot for Armour, but it's only slightly over double the minimal possible amount.

valid marsh
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1.3m armor is like what 3-4 bullets? from 900 RPM weaponry 😂

muted horizon
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On a full red build, with the SHD Watch maxed at Lvl 40, no Armour rolls.
you get a grand total of 600k.

lament isle
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I don't have the game installed but how do you do the raid with the fire foundry? I may reinstall in the future, but it haunts me. It really confuses me reading and hearing youtubers talk about the mechanics of that raid, I forgot the name. Also the raid has that giant armored train only lucked out once joining a late stage raid.

signal basin
#

Iron Horse is what you’re describing for both

lament isle
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Yep thats the name.

#

Ok I'll watch it.

lament isle
#

Still confusing but the video you provided along with its other parts are better explained than by Division 2 youtubers, that I've watched. I'll rewatch again if I reinstall the game.

edgy river
#

what builds are popular for iron horse? the drone skill build viable for it?

dim wharf
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No, you want a standard red crit dps build

edgy river
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Rifle or EB

swift peak
#

regular ARs generally have better damage than EB

edgy river
#

so rifle then

muted horizon
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Or just a regular AR, actually both would be good. Rifle+AR.

edgy river
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if i need a red crit build for the raid then im going with the rifle

long sky
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The standard meta red build works very well in both raids

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And for ar look for the standard famas

unreal gust
muted horizon
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There is no "best" ar to use, anything with a similar firerate/damage will do fine.

edgy river
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Wish other builds were viable in raid and not just red builds.

long sky
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Mainly red then meta FI healer then bulwark stagger or key tanks

kind berry
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is there an xbox community here or is it all ps and pc. people wanna join up and want to do raids but no one seems to be xbox?

icy hull
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yes but small amount from what ive seen.

muted horizon
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From what I understand, there is a fairly active community on xbox ingame for LFGs.

kind berry
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ive tried in the player lobbies but they all blow me off saying im not high enough or because im not in their clan.

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im SHD 371 and can hold my own on solo challenging

muted horizon
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Raids are closer to Heroic. A build that can just about hold its own in Challenging likely wouldn't do too well.
You can start preparing yourself for them by putting together a decent Red focused DPS build.
I recommend starting off with the "Full Meta Jacket", that's 📌 pinned in #td2-build-advice > spreadsheet > builds.

icy hull
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Yea ive heard most of the in game Xbox community requires 1k shd level. Which makes no sense because SHD level is the least important factor…. (build and knowing what to do are far more important).

kind berry
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thank you both and ill get to work on prepping that build. i run with a group of 4 on wed and we just hit the main game or breakpoint. but that is besides the point. i want to do and learn the raid just cant find people.

muted horizon
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I'd suggest starting with Dark Hours when you do, it's the far simpler one to start off with.
Just make sure you only play the "Normal" one, ignore Discovery mode.

kind berry
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I'm just wanting the stuff that's raid exclusive.

muted horizon
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Yep, that's all locked to "Normal".

icy hull
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@kind berryAlso FYI, there are guides on Youtube for the raid basics for both raids. Give it a watch, will make group finding much much easier if you at least know the basics.

kind berry
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I've watched them. I understand the objective. In my experience there aren't a lot who want to raid if you don't match their criteria.

muted horizon
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Let them know you're new, listen to the Raid Leader and do what they say, know some stuff about the Raid, have a solid build.
Do those things, you'll find a team.

swift peak
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also check for xbox raid communities in other places (eg reddit, other discords)

crisp berry
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IRON HORSE RAID ( need the Regulus

icy hull
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@crisp berrywrong channel, please use the raid LFG one.

cinder pilot
#

I always pictured a new raid to take place in New York, presumably in what was the Div 1's DZ area, which would be a good setpiece for both story of the raid/combat situations. Still hold on to that for the Division's future when the expansion/news come out!

long sky
#

Evening kettle and AZ

swift peak
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Hey saph

proven storm
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do you need certain gear for dark hours raid? or can you pretty much get away with anything?

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just trying to run it to try and get the ar

swift peak
elder helm
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I know what to do in Dark Hours and what build to use but not to experienced in Iron Horse

swift peak
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dps build will work for IH as well

elder helm
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Good but I don't know what are those numbers and math stuff

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If at least 1 or 2 know what to do and they order the rest around it can be completed right?

swift peak
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yeah, you want to run with a group where most of the players know what they're doing and have the right builds for their roles, then they'll tell you what door to guard or whatever and you can just point and shoot

robust urchin
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looking for xbox raid

west siren
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Then use the lfg channel

long sky
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Very true

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Only thing I can't do is stagger

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@elder helm I've done it 1 time where we had 6 brand spanking new and 2 that knew what they were doing. We only wiped once because the new guys paid awesome attention and brought TONS of firepower

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And yes it was boss 3

plain basalt
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Do MMR builds work in a raid or nah?

valid marsh
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they work extremely well if you can aim

plain basalt
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Ah alright

valid marsh
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infact theyre used in both Casual and Speedrunning raids

plain basalt
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I do have a Hard Wired seeker spam build aswell

valid marsh
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join a raid with that and youll get yelled at xD

plain basalt
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For doing 0 damage? 🤣

valid marsh
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and for having a skill build

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try Mortar Seeker explosive build
its much better than hard wired im glad i switched over

plain basalt
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🤔

valid marsh
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2 china
1 wyvern
2 Grupo
Waveform

for overcharge swap waveform for acosta go bag

plain basalt
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Yeah, I saw that build in the spreadsheet

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Toss down seekers and deploy mortar turret

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Ah

valid marsh
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almost the entire raid pretty much
only exeption is stage 1 and stage 3 end where you DPS the boss

plain basalt
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I see

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So, for a beginner to Div 2 raids, which one to start with?

valid marsh
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Dark Hours

plain basalt
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Obviously, will have to LFG

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Ah

long sky
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The basic red dps build works fine gor both builds

valid marsh
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it doesnt really matter DH is like 1/3 as long as IH and its the easier raid
IH however has much better loot and exotics

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both of them you will have to tell the RL youre new and he will ask you to take a basic DPS build of 50CHC and 150CHD so you dont weight the team down too much

valid marsh
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well stage 1 doesnt matter what you use its gonna be equally effective
Boss 1 its better to swap to DPS over MMR
Stage 2 doesnt matter either if you can aim
Boss 2 its better to DPS than MMR
Stage 3 MMR is very much sought after
Boss 3 you need DPS over MMR because of the weakpoint
Stage 4 and boss 4 speedrunners use MMR and casuals use MMR because its so damn effective
so ye other than boss 3 u can use MMR wherever
but if you cant aim why have an MMR build in the first place xd

sharp forge
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You killed me with your last sentence, ma man

valid marsh
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You mean the Tac50 + Nemesis combo or you refering to something else?

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add clearing is most effectively done via MMRs
Chunga killing is also most effectively done via MMRs
it depends on how much communication you have tho

muted horizon
valid marsh
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you dont kill them in the door with MMR? oh you use the HF HH Strat

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respect

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well those are the 2 fastest ways of clearing considering they hold the World record...

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again idk what ure refering to... the killing chunga in the train cart to teleport the key or what?

tender hollow
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Big chungas

plain basalt
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Or the ones when dealing with Razorback

valid marsh
plain basalt
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Ah, well both have chungas in them though 🤣

valid marsh
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DH has Boomers
IH has Chungas

dim wharf
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That's the same thing.... Just two different faction types

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Boomer/heavy/chunga/tank are all interchangeable terms for what people call them

valid marsh
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Well no boomers have Minigun
Chungas have Grenade launcher

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atleast thats what ive gathered

#

Dont be sorry Give me INFO

muted horizon
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Hey now, tone it down a bit. This is a server for all.

valid marsh
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i thought everyone knows that other than people whove never done the raids yet

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ive never seen the boss not be teleported with Foam for example

plain basalt
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Think I'll work on a DPS build before dipping my toes into a raid

valid marsh
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but that aint even relevant since i never mentioned it bcos i was talking about ad clearing

valid marsh
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i guess 1 shotting enemies aint efficient then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

muted horizon
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Kinda seems like it wouldn't be, at least on face value.
Sure you can 1-shot enemies, but then you've gotta spend time lining up the headshots, staying behind cover, and lots and lots of reloading.
overall wouldn't a simple red DPS build do it more efficiently? Or are you talking about "contributing" to the adclear, rather than solo-ing it.

valid marsh
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Rivens if you solo a raid ill personally send the 50 steddi sent me into your paypal

muted horizon
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Just asked a question, if you don't have an answer that is fine. Not overly concerned either way.

valid marsh
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das crazy

swift peak
valid marsh
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from the safety of the back more or less
depends on who you put there
usually u want first timers running a basic DPS build

swift peak
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Ok maybe I didn't scroll up quite far enough in the conversation, but in my experience it's a very small percentage of players who have that kind of aim

tender hollow
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I still miss more than I'd like even with Mantis highlighting heads

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The headshot hitboxes in this game are bullshit tight sometimes

west siren
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I find they just move around so much that it can be hard to track them etc.

tender hollow
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And if you're playing solo... aimpuch

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God, the aimpunch annoys me so much

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I lost to a bunch of striker drones because I kept shooting directly above them

thorny bison
elder helm
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Hello, anyone raiding at the moment?

west siren
scenic moss
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hi everyone. its time for me to get the regulus. im in raid voice-2

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or any raid voice channel filled with peoples 😄

icy hull
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wrong channel for group finding, please use the raid LFG one.

scenic moss
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thanks bro

valid marsh
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np bro

unborn stag
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Are there some specific builds required for raids? I want to start learning and playing raids and I was wondering if I should get a specific build for them.

valid marsh
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50 Crit chance 150% Crit damage for new players
Theres special builds for people who know what theyre doing but well ignore those

unborn stag
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Thanks div2salute

balmy garden
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Can someone please help me with a raid I’m a shd lvl 50 and I want to get the eagle bearer

frosty rock
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@tribal elbow Famas is better. anyways, continue that convo here instead of the lfg channel

jovial glade
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@frosty rock sorry for ping but what would you want on the famas to make it better? strained im assuming?

timid bronze
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Optimist is the best talent choice for any DPS AR builds :)

frosty rock
jovial glade
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patriot dps/support build?

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4 piece patriot with unbreakable/intimidate with momento(pve)

mortal bronze
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For support build you can easy go for ceska and grupo with overwatch and oportunistic ... or pointman/tardigrade and whatever u like for backpack

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For Famas best talent for pve is Optimist , for other AR's with lower rpm is good Strained than some people like Ranger but it depends of their style (play closer or far from npcs) ... if you dont trust , than test how many rounds you take to put down a named npc at test range area and than check how many bullets remains in the mag. , you will notice that im right about strained vs optimist for any AR's ... btw test only bodyshots cuz you will not hit all bullets for headshots only

icy hull
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Optimist is not the best talent for PvE...... It's bottom tier.

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Like even strained on a famas is better then optimist on a dps build

mortal bronze
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Just read the talents , than do the test i was saying.. Strained will never be better than Optimist for the Famas

dim wharf
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its close, but its aboutn 8.5% overall boost vs 6%

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the vector roughly matches optimist at about 6%

mortal bronze
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For me, famas strained consumes more bullets to put down a npc , rather then famas optimist... soo i cant agree

dim wharf
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Im just talking straight math on average.

icy hull
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Yup what Racey said ^^

drifting wedge
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is it worth it to raid with multiple characters?

warm wren
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do you have the raid exclusive weapons

drifting wedge
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yea i have a few

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i was trying to have more keys

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since 15 is the cap

muted horizon
icy hull
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Wrong channel please use the raid lfg one

drifting wedge
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so i can open the box multiple time for people that need raid exotics

valid marsh
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indeed what a foolish question

muted horizon
blazing patio
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ah ty

long sky
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Afternoon rivens

shy dome
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does DPS build is a must in Raids? cant use any other builds?

muted horizon
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Div2 is rarely that restrictive, but red crit DPS builds are fantastic for first-timers.

dim wharf
valid marsh
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"fiser is Wiping" whats this mean

dim wharf
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He goes to the back and does a 1 shot mechanic. Anyone inside the furnace will be immediately killed. You can stop it if you have enough damage by shooting the red part on his backpack, but it's generally easier to just step outside

shy dome
muted horizon
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It's up to the Raid Leader on how the team operates.
If you dislike how they run things, then find another group.

It's well worth getting a red crit DPS build together anyway, just make the FMJ one in the spreadsheet and you'll be good.

weak urchin
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anyone looking to raid trying to get keys with a friend

swift peak
unborn stag
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If I completed the regulus projects except the last one today, do I have to wait for next week to drop the exotic pieces?

magic fulcrum
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Yes

pearl hemlock
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Have you done the raid today?

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@unborn stag

unborn stag
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Yes

pearl hemlock
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If you did the raid today already then yes you will have to wait till next week

unborn stag
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Thank you

unborn stag
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Does it work if I do the raid on other character though? Or project is not shared between characters?

sharp forge
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the raid projects are not shared (iirc)

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but you can use the alts to farm for the FB&FI bp&chest, eb, etc

low hornet
shrewd timber
shy dome
formal forge
#

I see the term "donkey build" What does that mean?

dim wharf
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What's another name for donkey?

formal forge
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lol

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Got it.

long sky
#

Afternoon Raucey

willow sonnet
grim jasper
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Yesterday i was in a group with half donkey.... Too bad i dont understand how that works (i mean the roles) but performance wise its good

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Just another experience doing raid other than regular way

vague yoke
#

where can i find meta raid builds?

muted horizon
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A good starter Raid build would be the "Full Meta Jacket", that's pinned in the spreadsheet of #td2-build-advice

pearl hemlock
#

Did anyone else experience any unexpected issues in raids yesterday?

serene fossil
pearl hemlock
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Hahaha

long sky
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@serene fossil 👍 good job

mortal zinc
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hey yall o/ i'm relatively new to div2 and would like to get into raiding, i'd say i'm relatively experienced with raids in shooters (having played the raids in warframe when they existed and taking newbies through destiny 2's raids for a long time) so i'd like to head straight for the raid experience. what should i be aiming for to be "raid ready"? i am currently mostly running solo and i have not really looked much into builds yet.

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i think my gear score is currently around the 270s? so in terms of that i still have a decent way to go.

vapid briar
# mortal zinc i think my gear score is currently around the 270s? so in terms of that i still ...

There's a pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice with a bunch of different builds. You wanna go for the Full Metal Jacket one first, which is an all-red DPS build. However, since you're still in World Tier phase, you might wanna go through that first because your gear will constantly outdate itself as you progress, becoming less and less useful. Same goes for the Warlords DLC (if you have it), since it increases the level cap from 30 to 40 and all the gear you acquired up until that point in DC will essentially be obsolete.

mortal zinc
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Should i get the warlords dlc for the full raiding experience or is it not needed? Thanks for the info!

vapid briar
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Well, technically not. However, Level 40 is where the "real" endgame is at and you can only reach that with the DLC. Apart from that, the DLC introduced a couple new brand sets like Empress, Ceska and Grupo, which are great for skill and DPS builds.

long sky
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@mortal zinc get the dlc it should be on sale

serene forge
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Where do I go to find raid group for Iron Horse?

thorny bison
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Who has the most Dark Hours clears on pc? How many is it?

hot jolt
long sky
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@serene forge in your lfg-raid- ps4

thorny bison
hot jolt
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no problem!

long sky
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@naive pine run the raid a few more times

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They have to be fresh so you can get the keys and materials

whole oyster
#

at what time is the raid reset?

signal basin
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Depends on region, but it should be done by now

muted horizon
charred sigil
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I finished iron horse this week and got all the exclusive gear I needed. If I were to run it again could I get the pieces for the regulus or do I have to wait for reset next week?

warm wren
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no

charred sigil
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Thank you

crisp nest
#

how many boss's are in IH.

muted horizon
tawdry island
tender hollow
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no

icy hull
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Wrong channel, please use the lfg raid channel. @tender hollow

long sky
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1st IH boss is a DPS check. 2nd boss has some mechanics then you dps. 3rd boss pressure/timer harder mechanics then dps. 4th boss shoot big orange bullet,some mechanics,survive bombardment ,rinse repeat then dps the boss... note if you don't kill big orange bullet DC dies and so do you

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DH raid 1st boss dps check,2nd boss kill 3 bad guys while getting poisoned, 3rd boss 2 dogs killem at same time, 4th boss some mechanics destroy machine in the middle,and shoot the chungus in the ass to keep them from killing you

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Evening Rivens and AZ

icy hull
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@verbal dagger wrong channel, please use the LFG one.

verbal dagger
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okay

eternal kernel
#

In your opinion, is the Raid Exotics worth it?

dim wharf
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Yes, but if the only reason your raiding is just hunting for them it will suck a lot of the fun out of raiding.

long sky
#

Afternoon Raucey

tall phoenix
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struggling to get regulus even tho i finished IH twice any advice?

dim wharf
#

where are you with the projects?

muted horizon
dim wharf
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Huh weird. @tall phoenix want to jump in a voice channel and look at a couple things?

tall phoenix
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after i finish IH i would be happy to join you

boreal mesa
#

Hey I'm trying to earn a trophy for completing Iron Horse raid can anyone help run it.

willow sonnet
#

Though from what I heard console Div 2 is… dead.

boreal mesa
#

I did use it

willow sonnet
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Well you can’t use this channel for lfg

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Sorry mate

boreal mesa
#

Mate?

swift peak
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Mate=friend, in this case

tired quarry
#

What if someone accidentally deconstruct the gear set available in IH cypher fragments. How they will assists Anaya with pieces required for Ravenous or Regulus? Let me know please.

signal basin
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If the chest and backpack pieces got deconstructed, then you’ll need to reacquire them from the raid again

frosty compass
#

Anybody wanna help me do the Iron horse raid so I can get the regulous revolver project and material to complete project

chrome spire
#

Need help to get Eagle bearer

muted horizon
forest lily
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if you have already crafted the regulus can it drop from the bosses in the raid?

muted horizon
swift peak
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Yes but it's vanishingly rare (0.5% chance at best). However, if you want a second one, just move your first to the inventory of an alt character then run the raid again with your main: as long as it's your first clear of the week you'll get the parts to craft it again. @forest lily

orchid crow
#

anybody notice "perfectly calculated" not working on first razorback pulse since the last maintenance?

plain basalt
long sky
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i did but not dropped

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or i should say not given to me

muted horizon
plain basalt
tender hollow
#

Hey looking for group to run iron Horse. I don't care about your skill level as I'm not the best or a tryhard no where close. I do kinda suck. I'm just looking to kill out a trophy for 100% completion. Can run it on the easiest difficulty don't care. Dm if ya down to play.

I have posted in lfg raid LOTS no luck so now posting everywhere.

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😂

celest nebula
#

need me a moderator to ease their spam

tender hollow
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The logic is pretty stunning tbh

icy hull
#

⚒️

celest nebula
long sky
#

Morning AZ

muted horizon
tender hollow
#

We're going to just ignore the guy spamming his LFG message in every channel? Alright

west siren
#

Again?

muted horizon
#

I may be an AI, but I'm not omniscient.
Give us some time to work.

muted horizon
muted horizon
#

@simple mesa You've already posted in the correct area, no need for spam.

simple mesa
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Srry

keen kettle
#

Looking for 5 players to run raid on PSN

warm wren
keen kettle
#

Got it. Thanks

icy hull
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wrong channel, please use the raid LFG one.@simple mesa

simple mesa
#

Thnx srry@icy hull

brisk olive
#

Is clutch isnt working properly? I had devils due, amd was fighting buddy and lucy. My armor was pretty much zero after taking few seekers. And as i keep putting crit hits on buddy cluch havent propped.

celest nebula
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clutch only heals when you're under the treshold with crits

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never tried it on tech kills before tbh

brisk olive
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It says in description that if you below 20% armor(i was at 0%) at the time, crit hits repair 3%. In that case it shouldve been to at least 20% because i didnt make kill. I know in raids some talents arent working properly, like you still get staggered by buddy seekers/ironhorse mortars even if you wear sawyer kneepads.

muted horizon
coral raven
#

@tender hollow you don't need hazpro at all if you're not doing the tank role for any boss

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but the only one it rly matters is the second boss in the furnace

tender hollow
#

what about williams and the electric thing

coral raven
#

nope

#

as a DPS you should be out of harm's way for all the bosses so you don't need any defensive stats except maybe unbreakable talent on your chest as an extra life

tender hollow
#

👍

tired quarry
#

For the Regulus project, I got exotic drops from the first 2 bosses only, nothing from 3rd and 4th boss........WHY SO?

#

Total 5 exotic pieces are required for the pistol, I got only 2, can someone explain?

sharp forge
#

sing my name

signal basin
tired quarry
#

I donated everything, except for the last 5 exotic pieces that we have to donate for Regulus. I got only drops from first 2 bosses only, I finished the full raid but none of the other bosses dropped the exotic piece and nothing from the box in the trailer.

tired quarry
signal basin
tired quarry
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No didn't jump in on raid. Did the raid from the start/fresh on normal mode, still got nothing.

signal basin
#

Weird

long sky
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Did you complete the projects

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Or when did you complete all the projects

tired quarry
#

yes i completed all the projects....recently completed. Only project remaining is Rats Gnaw Our Bones - that is Regulus project for which we have to donate 5 exotic parts.

waxen rain
#

after you finish the project
next reset you get parts

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@tired quarry

tired quarry
#

got it, thanks

dusk geyser
#

bonjour des français pour du raid?

tender hollow
long sky
#

@tired quarry if your going to do a regulos build you'll need a dodge city holster, it'll give you the biggest bang for the buck

tired quarry
snow tapir
#

hi guys, how do I get the projects to build items like e. g. the regulus? thx for help

long sky
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1st do the IH raid then you get 5 projects

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project 1 and 2 your donating fi and bulwark gear sets plus some othe r stuff

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projects 3and 4 your donating miscellaneous gear

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after you donate all that then you do a IH raid AFTER a tuesday reset and get the parts foir the regulos from each boss

snow tapir
long sky
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raid must be done on normal not discovery

snow tapir
long sky
#

if youve never done a raid then i suggest doing the Dark Hours raid 1st

snow tapir
#

i've already done dh

long sky
#

ok then have a decent red build and go for it

muted horizon
tender hollow
#

i was 🥲

vivid harness
#

Question. If I have multiple characters to play, can I get raid reward for each or only one character

tender hollow
#

each

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one of the perks of multiple chars 😎

vivid harness
#

Ok

long sky
#

Rackem packem and stackem

icy hull
#

Wrong channel, Please use the raid lfg Channel. @sand path

muted horizon
#

@tulip stump Read the message directly above yours.

muted horizon
#

@hexed lantern Best to ask questions out of the LFG chat.
To answer it, there are 2 difficulties in the Raids, "Discovery" and "Normal".

  • Discovery has matchmaking, enemies are easier, less raid-specific mechanics.

  • Normal has no matchmaking, has harder enemies + more complex mechanics, but you are able to get the Raid exclusive Exotics+Gearset loot + Projects.

muted horizon
#

@thorn garnet Eagle Bearer and Ravenous are both just gained while in the Raid itself, most easily from opening the Chests with keys.
Regulus requires a Project and a few weeks.

thorn garnet
#

thanks 👍

frosty juniper
#

Any chance to get EB for solo player ?

icy hull
#

only viva doing the normal raid.

frosty juniper
#

@icy hull I know but i have no friend

icy hull
#

check out #lfg-raid-pc , always see groups forming viva there.

dim wharf
# frosty juniper <@!146007866216677376> I know but i have no friend

Just keep an eye out for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it.

long sky
#

Afternoon Raucey