#td2-raid-discussions
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Agree
@faint dragonraid group finding is in #lfg-raid-console channel 🙂
skill build viable in raids?
not typically, only in certain spots. best is to have full red dps build. see the hub tab on pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice for a build called "full meta jacket".
thanks
@languid knot any particular reason you're teaching discovery?
Like are you struggling to find a group on normal?
teaching discovery? please tell me it ain't so......
One of my former clans used to have Teaching Discovery Raids that anyone with any build could join.
This was one of the prerequisites before you could join in a normal clan raid. Another was that you needed to have a 6 red core build with >=50 CHC and >=150 CHD for Dark Hours.
Shit you guys couldn't see it because you're not xbox. I wasn't trying to make it a thing but didn't want to dm a stranger or type in the wrong chat
I don't see the purpose tbh. The people who have discovery clears underperform people who are going in totally blind (in my experience) since they think normal is the same as discovery
Teaching raids should be done in normal period.
And you should proceed to the next boss after 3 tries with no error's or fails in any circunstance
Till people fully get it what to do , at least thats how i was thought
I think it depends on the goal. If I'm teaching you so that you can lead raids or raid long term, it's different than teaching you so you can do enough to get a clear and the exotic
😂 overcharged achilles pulse > ST 0 pulse
Somehow group always has auto aim and aims for the weakpoint
what does rv2 mean
Raid voice 2
"Don't shoot the...... nevermind"
I don't bother saying anything, just pulse and hope no one aims for it. It's always the damn leg and gets hit
Wtf the ravenous do I googled it like 10 times and nothin shows up
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rav does good things
Works sorta like the merciless
???.... ok maybe half of it does... sort of... but I tend to use the other half more...
Shooting while looking over right shoulder builds explosive stacks. Shooting from the left shoulder will proc the explosion.
Shooting while looking over the left shoulder builds blue stacks. Shooting from the right shoulder will proc the blue stacks giving you bonus armor and damage to weakpoints
it gives you a damage to armor bonus, not just for weak points. with my tank on morazova I was hitting chunga for 1 mil crits with akm after 5 left 1 right, 5 left 1 right. weak point was already taken out...
thats not armor, its weakpoints. damage to armor doesnt apply to that
it works everywhere I try it.....
I was under the impression it was for "armor plating"
damage to armor, like from contractors gloves is what Im talking about not working.
Like I'm not sure it works on the sniper pack? I'm not sure though
it would
Yeah I stopped speedrunning literally two days before those strats started
So my knowledge is super limited and I go by word of mouth for now
Have you tried it on an elite npc?
chunga has armor plating, not armor (white bar), ravenous buff amplifies your damage on armor plating, hence you are able to deal high damage to them.
when you guys choose randoms to raid with on Iron Horse do you prefer they come in with a dps build or would you prefer more heals or CC?
Depends on the raid cause for DH definitely prefer DPS builds but for IH definitely Heal+Tanks because otherwise you end up sitting there for hours waiting for someone to speak up who has the build but just doesn't want to play it lmfao. Most are more than happy/willing to teach someone how to do those roles if they don't know how as long as they're willing to learn and have the necessary build.
what kind of damage numbers am i looking for with an optimized EB? i know this is a broad question, just looking for a general answer
eb DPS build sorry
Don’t use an EB
Too many better ARs and then you can keep your exotic weapon for a much better option
what AR is better than the EB? please? could you give your thoughts on this. Thanks
Famas, M4, I like the shield splinterer but even it is sub par to the famas
thank you.
Of course
But with all of that said I think the EB is a fun gun to have due to its rarity in getting it
Carbine 7 with In Sync is pretty good
Looking to do my first DH raid on Saturday, what is the best clan to work with on something like This?
first iron horse done! now i need to run it a few more times so i can get my future initiatives and bulwark gear so i can start the regulus mission
@pearl hemlock i agree its a ton of fun i love mine but youre right the famas it top teir
is the only 2 that dont drop from raid sets are the chest and bag? bulwark and future
yup
why do people play mic muted in the raid voices? isn't communication is key there?
@eager pasture I hit a steady 540k+ with my EB in PVE but for DZ I stick with the famas
eb is good if you can land headshots, otherwise damage to out of cover weapons are a bit better
Granted I’m no where near peak power, I’m SHD level 309 so I have a lot more to go I feel
like famas, police, carbine
The only bad about EB is lacking damage talent. That's it. It has good stats, i think best base damage among ARs, but no damage talent. So you ending up loosing up to 30%WD with in-sync, or up to some % aplified damage with ranger, optimist etc etc
in PvP it compensated by granting you good defensive talent, but in PvE, especially in full red builds, the only good defence is better offence (which EB is lacking)
Yeah in PVE I run my EB with the striker shield and then the Vector SBR 9mm because it fits my play style in a sense that I can get close to enemies and proc my shields 11% damage bonus
Yea before they nerfed it
Shame. If it had DTOC at least...
Just like big horn...new players chase to get it, try it for few days then goes into stash to switch to famas/ M4 etc with dtoc and fast hands or in sync for PvP
It is that "feel good" factor when you're pulling a raid exotic for new players
Then later you realise everyone has 15 keys and nobody wants anything anymore...so every night I'm staring at the toilet door in Sector A of IH raid to kill same 2 NPCs every few seconds...
Are there any proper "one shot" builds for razorback? Using the same as anyone elses but only deal about 75% damage to weak point
Unless the other damage comes from the fully stack from ravenous (20 from left) and FI
Same time or after shooting first time with d50?
Oh then I gotta do that then
In the context of razorback, a 'one shot build' has a different meaning just fyi
Well to one shot a weakpoint which i hear people call it a one shot build
This ^
When you say a one shot - it implies you actually kill razor with only one shot (which is still possible, albeit much more complicated than it sound)
How do u passively pass enough emotional damage onto fieser so tht he dies of emotional breakdown?
How much unfair? And does it require any negotiations?
Ohh yes
Thts why he explodes when he dies
Thx! For the help!
This is also known as - Ego Death
traitor
😂
Mostly DPS builds. Healer if needed. Drone killer at end.
Alrighty thanks
Nonono, Mutecat has a point. Answer his question.
@icy hull
I never understand why these bot posts only get deleted one by one: if they nuke the poster it normally deletes everything they said
Anyway the mod on it tonight is @final thunder
Yup!
Ta!
the time it takes to complete the raids generally depends on how experienced the team is but to give you an estimate IH will usually take anywhere from 40 min - 1 hour and 20 min. DH can take anywhere from 20 min - 45 min on average
the Foundry Bulwark and Future Initiative chest pieces and backpacks are exclusive to the Iron Horse raid and can be found from the loot dropped from the bosses if it is your first raid of the week and the chest at the end which requires 5 keys to open (weekly reset is every tuesday)
Ok bro
so which would be a preferable build for a first timer on IH raid?
classic full red ar or healer?
depend how well geared you are, healer build is pretty hard to assemble, full red is much easier (also easier as a role) that's how i see it at least (im also pretty new 🙂 )
Definitely a DPS build for a first time. As you continue learning the roles and strats, the other builds will come into play.
What are the types of tank builds for IH?
I know theres one FB for tanking last
TP for overall enemy debuffing
was there one with full armor regen build?
And im assuming either one of the FB and TP can have pointman and tardigrade?
I use a FB with armor regen atttributes. TP works because the team buffs. Pointman and Tardi are definitely helpful.
thank you for taking the time to tell me literally everything i wrote i already knew right above ❤️
You’re welcome
How long does it take pc players to complete dark hours?
And do i just join a random rv if i wanna?
it would really depend on the group like any content ^^
could be like between 45mn and 3h 🙂
What about a noob like me whos never been on pc but has hundreds of clears on console?
same depend on your group, im also a beginner but if you have a powerful group they can carry you 🙂
also if you have cleared alot on console, you aren't a noob by a long shot, knowledge of the content is a powerful asset, now you just have to work on your mecanical skills to play on computer, but it'll come fast ^^
It's the same raid as on console, it will still take the same time as your used to.
Just jump in any RV that has room, no need to ask permission or anything.

Even at a low shd lvl? 10 to be exact or will they not accept me cus no build
A good raid team should be able and willing to help anyone. Let them know you’re willing to do the best you can and willing to learn. Just continue working on your build as well.
Obviously depends on a group. I have no problem with beginner or 2 if they follow instructions. Things is still when you are getting into a group of 8 that you dont know and have no knowledge of game mode itself getting into it with some respect for people you are playing with is nice. Raids arent supposed to be done at that level. Can they be done? Sure but thing is there are other 7 people with you there everything is easier when people can do their job right
Should I be trying to join a raid if I have only played on hard difficulty?
probably not, its going to be quite a jump in difficulty
So I should be getting to legendary as the default for raids then?
at least be used to playing on heroic difficulty
^
Raids are closer to Heroic, not exactly but it's a good scale.
just make sure you have a DPS build (that works well in Heroic) and you'll do fine.
Is striker a good one?
overall its fine, but its generally not what you want for the raids
Oki, I'll have a look at different builds.
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s332/sh/6cef99f0-f034-4ea2-b328-f89117108557/63328dfdb9d23d088cf99c7347ff8279
This is the main one you want
Thank you 🙂
loving that link, Rauce'
How long do u guys think does it take for my first DH clear? If I want to have every encounter explained to me and know all the mechanics by the end?
On PC there used to be guys that explained in detail for 20 mins each encounter, but now usually someone will explain your role and what you need to do, so 30 seconds to 2 minutes on each encounter. With a new person, its normally 30 mins to 2 hrs depending on how strong the team is.
so basically I should watch a guide to understand the mechanics and then my first clear takes around 30 minutes then?
Yep if you want to know most things just watch 2 or 3 youtube raid guide videos.
ok
Just get the general mechanics understood from watching videos and then when you join a lobby say you are new but know the general mechanics
There are videos on YT that'll go into detail for every section of DH. No one expects a new raider to memorize everything but it'd be good to have some idea. The raid lead will likely give you a brief rundown of your task.
Best thing to do is to bring a full-DPS build. If there isn't a healer on the team or if you feel you're dying too easily, make sure to have an Unbreakable chest or Memento backpack.
The only expectation raiders have of you are: kill things, don't die.
Also, I recommend doing the raid a few times, get exposed to it, and learn a few of the mechanics each time. It's a huge drain on ppl's time to teach you every mechanic in one raid.
^ This. If you can sustain yourself by killing ads and having a reviver hive, you are good to go
Honestly (imo) you're trying too hard if you want to understand everything by the end of your first clear. At that point you're at the mercy of the group you are with. Real understanding comes from multiple clears while actually playing those positions.
yes but having kind of a rough idea what happens during the fights does help, no?
instead of just walking around shooting whatever your team leader tells you to shoot
I'm a "learn to crawl before walking" person. Don't be a hero. Do your job until you master it and then move on to a new job. I.E. there is no need for you to know how to kite boomer or run drones on your first clear, since you'll likely be on Ad control or a generator. Explaining that is a waste of time until you know the basics (how to guard a door, hit computers,etc). Maybe after a couple clears it's time to graduate. You're also splitting your learning between multiple groups so you can learn what strats you like as well as building a network of players.
@frosty pond Iron Pony Soon™️
sure
waiting on you now
just dm me lol
How long do raids take?
depends on the team, builds, and experience. a new player in a strong experienced team can get dark hours done in under an hour. iron horse is more complex with more mechanics. maybe an hour and a half to 2 hours.
I'm finishing up WONY now, then want to do the episodes, then grind, then raids.
Seems like making a DPS build is best
This your gt?
@thorny bison it's Tamb0
Hmu when you want to run DH
Sure but I ain't close to ready lol
Idc lol wanna run tomorrow? Just be lvl40
Ummmm sure but id want 8
So then if i wanna join raids on pc how do i join rv? Join it then go back to game? And what about invites? Is it /invite (name)?
Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay.
Then for adding do i need to open up uplay to accept or will there be a popup on screen?
Cause that sounds complicated
shift+f2 opens up the uplay overlay, but I personally just use the ubi connect launcher instead
what RV (number) means ? like DH RV10 ?
RV is raid voice. So Dark Hours Raid Voice 10
oh ok ty
Yep
Someone do a raid DH need a eagle bear
wrong channel, please use the Raid LFG channel @tender hollow
someone is building ironhorse ?
Raids are pointless in this game everytime I've joined a raid it has taken hours because of people leaving or getting disconnected it makes me never want to raid in division again
I'm sorry ya feel that way, but i'd suggest getting a solid group. Most lfg raids take less than an hour on average.
I've tried to raid three different times in this game every time it's been a struggle to get it finished
It has put a bad taste in mouth for raiding in division
I've raid hundreds of raids in destiny not once have a spent more time waiting in a raid than I have doing said raid during vision I've spent more time trying to get a raid group who has a grasp on things to get it done than actually doing the raid
So you did both IH and DH in your three attempts raiding in the division? Aren’t you pretty new to the raids too if you’ve only done them thrice?
I know the builds and the mechanics... I main destiny I've done hundreds of raids but in division it just seems like getting a good group is the hardest part
I mean, destiny and division are two different games. Just cause you’ve raided in destiny doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll know the div raids well. If you’ve only done the raids 3 times, I’m not so sure you can accurately assess whether or not the group is “good” or not. You probably just happened to have newer raiders in your group which made it a little harder to get through. Keep in mind the average experienced lfg group for IH on average takes anywhere between 45min-1hr+ and about half that range for DH (about 20min-35min). You didn’t specify which raid(s) nor how many hours it took to complete the three raids you were in but when you have newer raiders in the group, it’ll typically take nearly double those times.
Yea that's not what I'm saying tho I can see trying and failing and things I'm talking about actually waiting for someone or trying to get 8 people together or when your in the raid someone leaves or something always happens with lfg in division is what I'm getting at
It's been a bad experience
Perhaps it’s more of a console thing as I see you’re on Xbox/PS4 but it’s fairly easy to group 8 experienced people together on PC and people seldom leave. I’m on PS5 as well as PC and from what I’ve noticed, you’ll have a far better time raiding in the division if you look for the little community servers as opposed to the official division server when it comes to raiding on console.
Yea I think it's because I've played solo for so long I don't have clan never had a raid team so it's been hard for me to find a group... Just getting discouraged
I’ll dm you some division community servers I know of and have raided with on console before and perhaps you’ll be able to find a better time raiding.
I left that raid because I had to be a dad, but I could have told you from the beginning it wasn't going to finish
Add me and I'll get you through tomorrow
@thorny bison no not you you were great but i wasn't referencing just that Ive had terrible luck with raids in this game
I'm so sorry about what happened to you as well I hope you got all cleaned up btw
Wife sabotage 🤣🤣. But seriously though tomorrow I'll get you in with a good group.
Then from there you network
Thanks bro I appreciate it I'll put it this way out of several raid attempts I've completely one
That sucks bro. Once you see how it works with an organized group I think you'll enjoy it.
Yea I'm hoping so I think maybe I'm just getting bad luck... I really appreciate it I'll add you
Imagine not getting the eagle bearer or ravenous out the box whenever you open it
Sorry guys noob question, does the FI chest/backpack drop on DH, or IH?
Awesome, thanks!
As of now they are IH raid exclusive, so you will not find them in DH raid.
Eb is dh exclusive, fi/bulwark chest and backpack along with ravenous and regulos are IH exclusive
Eb is not dh exclusive i had seen a guy get it from IH once🤔
Hmm…
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@ornate tiger no they didn't
What you might have seen was they just did dh together and hopped in a ih real quick then was dropped for someone
Or you miss took it for the ravenous
Same platform
Seems very unlikely with the pic i saw
Somone is messing with you. There is no literal way it just drops. It always comes out of the cache.
nope no one's messing with me i did see a legit pic
The Eagle Bearer can drop from a boss, seen it happen, however, it’s only tied to the DH raid. Nowhere else.
How long ago was that? Because I swear they patched that.
Couple months. It was god rolled also.
the pic was in january
this year
Not you. I don't believe you and never will lol. I'm referring to timmy.
Not doubting it was an EB, just saying it can’t come from the IH raid is all
ok don't then
Scroll up, already answered
Timmy. Only way I can see that being a thing is if everyone already one in the raid.
That or console is just dif lol
That’s cool dude. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just saying what I’ve personally seen.
The Eagle Bearer has a small chance to drop from each boss encounter,
that's an intended feature, not a bug.
iirc about 1% from each boss, 10% from the final chest.
I’m pretty sure there’s 1% for exotic to drop not specifically raid exotic
I've personally seen people get EBs from boomer. Meanwhile I have a ton of clears and have never had an EB drop from a boss.
You can also get the regulus from IH bosses
i just did a raid and someone in our group got it
that was from the chest; they're talking about exotics dropping from bosses
ah gotcha
raid channels being empty today 👀
Never heard of that 1% drop on Raid bosses being anything but EB.
Source?
Real empty
time to start one 😂
@gusty willow is right. if a boss drops an exotic, it's not guaranteed to be the raid exotic
i managed to get the nemesis once from williams
1% Exotic Drop with 0.024% of it being EB.
So basically if u get it from a boss ur just mad lucky
pretty much, yeah
Literally the first time I've heard that, and I've heard the other way more often.
any source on your claim?
can't relate though, i have shitty luck
I read somewhere that the bosses have 1% chance of dropping any one of eight exotics in the raid (including the raid exotics).
Let me grab the article
eh dw about it, I don't trust articles from random places with info about div2.
Man how about yall hop over to the PSN side lol. Lookin a lil too empty this morning
join us on the darkside, we have cookies and 240 fps
I've had a vile mask, diamondback and pestilence drop from Boomer so far - but no EB lol. Was excited to see the orange glow but then disappointed in seeing what it turned out to be
all seriousness sometimes i wish the game was crossplay at least for pve so we could group with more people
Imperial Dynasty holster from him myself lol
Yup, 1% exotic drop includes non raid exotic, which makes EB/Regulus drop etc much more rarer from bosses during reset run.
at least you got more than one exotic lmao
Seen others get Mantis, Nemesis and a Merciless from Morozova lol
And @long sky scenario is correct, EB drop being visible in IH is due to the same group of players running both raid back to back and the EB is still shareable. That's the most logical scenario.
Never done a raid (no one to play with) but i want the eagle bearer so bad! Anyone wants to help me out? 😅
You're looking for #lfg-raid-ps
gl, Agent. 
No source. Simple statistics. I completed about 1200 raids in total which means 4 bosses per raid equals 4800 and if you take that 1% theory to test that would be on average 48 raid exotics from raid bosses themselves. With that being said I saw few exotics dropping from raid bosses. Something like 6-7 but never got EB or any other raid exclusively drop from boss. Either that 1% is completely wrong which makes more sense or I’m insanely unlucky
I seen 1 EB drop for someone and that's it
Yea the RNG can be rough sometimes but I’m just saying it can happen
FYI that 1% chance for DH boss exotic drop is an average 1%, not fixed. Source is datamining for DH. IH wasn’t datamined BUT assumed to be the same was DH. @gusty willow@muted horizon
Keep in mind you'll only have a chance at the exotics in the first run of the week, so it won't be x/1200 runs, it will be less. But I still think 1% per boss has always sounded quite high to me. I've gotten 2 ebs in DH but I don't think I've gotten any ravs (from bosses not crates) in a roughly equal amount of runs. No idea how many of those were "fresh" runs, but I'm still no where close to 1% per boss, and definitely don't see it dropping often enough for others to think it's 1%. It's hard to argue with data mined info, but that data mined info was likely done quite awhile ago and could likely have been adjusted since then.
My point was only that 1% theory doesn't make too much sense
Yeah, I agree. It's definitely possible, or at least was at some point, but I think the people with hundreds of runs know there's no way it can be 1% per boss.
I’m not sure that’s a realistic statement
It very well could be 1% just because people have hundreds of clears it’s only valid for 1 clear per week
The raid has been out for less 3 years so that’s less than 156 clears that can be counted per character in those chances
lmao wot? so what is the theory 1% per boss on first run of he week? on any of the chars or only on 1? 1% only on 1 of the bosses of the first run? come on dude why is everyone so glued to theory that has zero proof what so ever
I’m not saying the 1% is right or wrong just that you can’t say you ran it 1200 times and say that’s sufficient evidence that it’s not right
The raids have always been that you get a chance at loot specific on the first clear of the week so any clears after that before reset is a 0% chance from the boss
also keep in mind how rare it is just to see someone in your group get a drop. its not 1% per run, assume your running on a reset day with 8 people having a shot 4 times. you would see that every now and again, but as it stands its much more rare to see
of course it's not s proof. it's a statistic and and pretty fucking bad one. like I said I could be really really really unlucky but I doubt it. even a blind chicken picks a corn every now and then
FYI, that 1% isnt just “1% chance for raid exotic” it’s a “1% for the boss to drop any exotic including raid ex”.
also yes its only for the boss raid drop (so 1st clear)
a completely fresh group would have 32 chances at it. so 1-.99^32=27.5% chance of seeing it happen in a group
this I could see being possible, but its not normally how the drop chance is described as
I can see it’s clearly not getting through how it works so I’m gonna stop trying to explain it
tbh I think we are mostly all on the same page, dragon correct me if I'm wrong
that is confirmed by the dataminer "bitly? guy" for DH. IH is unknown cause i know of no miner that has done IH.
No I think you get it. I mean for all we know it could be a 5% chance I don’t think that they have ever come out and officially said what the chances are
It could also be .00001% who knows
Devs never said the chance. But dataminers found it in the coding (well found the average chance), so it is an official number.
There you go lol
I never looked to see how they got the number just that it was the number
any idea when that was done? I believe it was at least before WONY when everything changed, so it could also be that number has changed since, and its not like it would be something in the patch notes.
TU 9 is what is recent posted, and my follow up is TU 10 or 11. (so still wony)
also highly doubtful the drop chance changed. it was the same 1% as of like Tu4 or 5 and stayed the same upto the last check.
people have gotten it to drop before WONY
not the question Jay.
o nvm
Keep in mind that exotic materials are a common drop amongst razorback drops, and I would imagine that's part of the 1% chance, those doesn't usually show up as part of the pick up so they might be glossed over.
That I'm not sure, as IH wasn't datamined. That 1% is for DH. iH is assumed to be the same though ( for exotic item not material)
Yeah, the rate is pretty low to begin with and with so many exotics now being part of the pool, it probably further dilutes that drop being EB alone. At least the raid end chest has a higher chance and guaranteed piece.
raid end chest is 10% for EB iirc.
Please excuse my ignorance, I've been playing D2 for years but always stayed away from Raids... hoping to join a dark horse raid for gear. Any advice as to how I can make that happen?
Just keep an eye out in the lfg channel for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it.
Wow, it's crazy that it's so complicated, that we can't just be matched via the game itself, but that said, I really appreciate people like you being so helpful😊 I'll follow those directions then, thanks Raucey!
Ta Azur, thanks for the actual solid info.
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whats the name of the old raid? xD
the two raids (in order of release) are:
Dark Hours, and Iron Horse.
Oh trust me, once you start learning the raids, you'll understand why matchmaking is (in most cases) a terrible idea
@echo burrow thats my fav..
ubi when matchmaking on normal lmao
imagine having friends
couldn't be me
i still get yelled at by the leader during matchmaking though :/
Hi, I am looking for players for the eagle bearer raid please.
Thx
wrong channel. please use the raid LFG one.@green hedge
Ok here goes let me say good Evening to rivens, isabel, wyvern, and meowcat
O crap forgot Raucey
🤣
Yo, I'm new here
are there raid tutorial vids that you guys recommended? wanna try the raids some time
check out @rigid onyx
gotta learn to run before you walk
Lmao hey Sapherstine, how've you been?
@stoic cipher if you know basics then it's cool, do some raids and enjoy them.
After some time, if you want to go hardcore or learn some tricks, look into things like "Method behind the madness".
Thanks 👍
hello there i havent played in a very long time division thought this game is going dead dnt have much but is there a way to get the vector exotic weapon or somthing like that
It's not part of the Raid, I'd suggest asking in another channel.
hey rivens and wookie
Hey guys, pretty new to the game. Just finished the main campaign, DLC, and Summit. I've put about 100 hours into the game, and I'm looking for some groups to help me learn the raids so I can get the Regulus.
Have a red dps build ready with ideally at least 50% chc, and 150% chd. Then keep an eye on the lfg raid chat and just find a RV channel that has an empty spot and just let people know your new.
@bleak eagle wrong channel, please is the raid LFF channel.
Make sure you have either a DPS build or heals build ready to go, both would be good. When you get into the party, make sure they know your new to raids, and make sure it’s okay they carry you. Hours don’t matter when it comes to raids, raids are much different from the main shit. Moving on from that, I recommend you start on Dark hours and learn that raid first, it’s much easier, and takes 20-30 minutes with a group who knows what they are doing. Iron horse is much harder and has many more mechanics. Iron horse will take you anywhere from an hour to an hour 1/2. Be prepared.
You don't want to go into your first raid with only a healer build. You will be dead weight for certain parts, and having raid experience is pretty important for the role. Plus you won't have the FI chest which is a key part of the build.
Where's mans at? Does he want video proof??
@covert wolf
neither, just play the game
3000+ hours
and counting
Why do you instantly think I'm cheating?
@covert wolf
aj_gadz18 is a cheater, i played with him before
all he does is shoot everything in the head and run ahead of the whole raid group
/s
I can't tell if he understood the /s
aj gadz is stinky boy
Can y'all just quit it? Take it to PMs if you're gonna fight.
oh he has ps4 tag
he probably doesnt know what a headshot is
I'm confused, am I cheating or just playing the game with it's current intended use?
Why am I getting flamed and being accused of cheating??? just answer the question lol
lol yea why are you being targeted
all inquires should be direct to @rigid onyx
we dont talk about him
I'm not aimbotting either
LMAO SHOW HIM THE EDITED TARMAC COPTER
I told you, we did the IH raid in under 16 minutes with no cheats or anything. Why do you think I'm cheating?
at&t spectrum
why does that matter lol
LMAO
There's multiple teams now that are sub 16, I'm so confused why you don't believe me
AND I told you I have video proof
actually, multiple videos of proof, I can show you OMN run too
for what?
a link? bad word?
a what?
I think I know what you're trying to say
but like, why lmao
auto-mod has certain queues it auto-blocks. Too many in a row and you get a ban.
I'm just so confused. I'm trying to show this guy that's supposedly a super experienced player that's it's possible to do sub 16min Iron Horse, but he won't believe me and won't even answer my only question of "why do you think I'm cheating"...
what the fuck is he saying
I can't tell if I'm being trolled or if he genuinely doesn't believe me
trying to do mental gymnastics to figure that statement out as well
LMAOOOOO
What does this mean?!?
Devs! Please do something!!
tf is tag along
tagalong the cookies?
it means he's trying to live rent free in ppls head and he's rage baiting
im confused baited
I love how that's now exclusively used by people who are way too old, pretending they're 15.
idk, I think he doesn't speak english very well and still actually think's we're cheaters
or Doritos.
or that we work at ubi, still don't know why that would matter
oof, shum with the old roast lmao
it's true right? The only people that use it also still use "trolled". That hasn't been a thing since 2005.
boom roasted
Wait, so do you actually believe we're cheating?? I'm actually interested in the answer @covert wolf
wait so all im getting out of this is that working for ubisoft gives you perks that allow you to cheat?
15:39 for IH speedrun, there's a video up on Youtube.
how is this still a question?
ayyye true
PLUGGGGG
That's what I said, I told him I had video proof. I'm so confused
das me
das me too
because Astro can't post this himself without getting in trouble: https://youtu.be/N9yrl_aydTg
Man, I'ma bouta carry you to an english class
Boo!! Astro vids boo!! cheating content!
ye aj got carried
wait, who are you, how come you can post links?
❤️
Not my content, I can post links all I like :p
toxic for not posting everyone's links and only astros
LMAO, what a homie
get em out
all our links are in the description
I'm furniture here, I'll be removed only when this place burns to the ground.
don't listen to darky
better not show that guy our duo stuff XD
That is a nickname I'd not suggest using again lol
what?
Just gonna say this now, anyone that is doing sub18 min IH, nobody on that team is getting carried
gotta be a skilled group to do sub18 IH
cap
ex: @cold elm
Even sub-20 is still pretty darn impressive.
team work makes the dream work babeeeeeeeeeee
Sub 20 is light work, hit me up later and we might repay the favor for posting the link
Wish I could, but I've had div2 uninstalled for about 3 months now.
rip
ta for the offer tho, I appreciate it.
oof, sadge
lack of content will do that to ya, I'm still holding out for the moment haha
duplicating?
I play online stuff in chunks. So I return when there's a buncha stuff to do, then bail again.
Cherry, you've got the PC tag.
idk, mans thinks we're hackers and I can't figure out why, tried asking about 7 different times now
destiny 2 vibes
literally me_rn
web hunter 4 lyf
HE'S DUPLICATING, CONFIRMED!!!
MITOSIS
MODS HELP ME IM SCARED
via mitosis is the best way to play div2
ahhhhh jumped my chance.
well played ducky'
@covert wolf I raided with you on LFG the other day, you are definitely easier to understand over voice than text here. Is there something that you are not familiar about in terms of standard raid vs speedrun strat?
tyty
Imagine the des2 raids in div2.
the absolute chaos.
madness
you mean... method behind the madness? 👀
div needs more raids sigh
aj maybe hes just jealous
EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT kek
yo, you know for sure we'd achilles pulse a chunga and one shot Oryx
wait I thought you called someone a cheater or something
LMAO
im lost XD
@covert wolf so is aj a cheater or just stingy for not sharing his speed strats
@covert wolf they are just having friendly banter in chat, it's by no means undermining running the raid in a typical fashion
I do share them tho
Stellar, I tried telling him this with most sincerity about 3 times
?? I was so nice to you, what the??
@covert wolf what makes you think having a headshot dmg build equates to cheating?
literal proof, go read my messages, I was never once aggressive in any way
hitting more than 30% headshots is cheating duh
You tried to call me a bad word and it got blocked lol
@covert wolf @lunar warren and @frosty rock are friends in a way, they are just joking to each other
what the heck is going on
No, that wasn't his point. His point was having a HSD build at all equates to cheating. He never said anything about actually landing the shots. So he's claiming that regardless of whether or not you land a headshot, you're considered cheating as long as you're running a headshot dmg build on PC.
and I think calling out the wrong RV is just an observation that hopefully doesn't trigger anyone
it's just words lost in translation, I can understand cherrymon better in voice LFG the other day
cause 10% hsd mods are fake
🍿
And also, I've done probably over 1000 LFG raids haha
same :)
This is getting interesting
idek whats going on XD
man you really gotta chill with your word usage lol
I'm so confused, not once did I get aggressive with this guy and I also tried to even explain to him that I'm not cheating and wanted to provide video evidence. Then all of a sudden I'm a mouthy F word and don't do LFG's.
I feel attacked!
wah wah wah wah
Just clearing my throat
The hell is going on in here???
AJ is getting attacked for not doing lfgs that's what. And apparently he's a mouthy F
Not sure, some guy said I was cheating, then I said I wasn't and then he called me an f word
@covert wolf why u block me
do you hate help or facts and logic
Next time please send a message to ModMail and don't engage with those kind of people anymore.
Agreed.
well this was after civilized discussions broke down
to be fair, it was mostly after the memes.
there was an effort at genuine discussion
Yeah, I was completely trying to help the guy, then he just went ballistic on me
crazy o_o
sadly this conversation came to an end, it was so genuine.
genuinely entertaining
He was fairly reasonable and polite in raid, I think it might be the friendly banter between players were being misconstrued as personal attacks somehow
entertainingly genuine
yeah, but I was very kind to him the entire engagement, look at the messages, it's all recorded
I'm so confused why he called me that
I was referring to your message pointing out the RV and banter with Blitz
Somehow he took it personal
maybe 1080p is not satisfying
he might have been sticking up for blitz or something
dang lmao, I need to get 1440 monitor now
damn, shit always slaps in 4k
I understand that, but after the fact I was very nice to him
maybe he knew how to listen and speak but not read and write lol
Ok, back to raid discussions now. Thanks! 
it all just started with me just putting a message for dh for new guy finish his first dh u guys made it to a speed run normal run discussion lol
thanks for interfering its all good now
u should probably click xbox icon in server roles before asking question here this is pc section correct me if i am wrong
it is NOT the pc only section. this is just the general raid discussion channel. for LFG, please use the specific raid LFG platform ones.
@ruby kelp @lunar warren^^
Hello, I got a question about crafting blueprints. I have a few blocked at my crafting station. It says "Operation Dark Hours". I have completed this raid a total of 4 times so far. What am I doing wrong?
those raid blue prints are a RNG drop from the raids and only drop on normal mode.
also only during the 1st boss kill each reset.
do you know what the chance to get each blueprint is? I though there was some quest to get them or sth
that i dont know.
I believe its a guaranteed drop from each of the first 3 bosses in DH each week until you get them all. The BP is random but its one that you haven't already got. So just keep doing DH once a week [after the reset] until you get all of them.
So i am interested in getting into raids, mostly for the rewards but if i enjoy them, i would add them to my roster of activities. I am just curious to know how geared up i should be.
At the moment i have a full red crit (which could work for dps), a healing build, a status effect/add clear (if thats needed) and now im just wondering what else i should do to prepare?
Would watching a video on mechanics help or would in game practice help?
Thabks for the help!
For your first clear you should have a decent dps build. My rule is if you can hold your own in a 4 man heroic. that build should be good enough to carry you through the raid. Skill builds are not good choice at least not for your first completion so keep that in mind.
can somebody help me get the eagle bearer
thanks anyway 😉
For a raid regulus build should i use punch drunk or normal mask?
Only place I really use punch drunk in the raids is for grey where I run more headshot/crit build vs the normal pure crit build.
@elder sedge .. you want to hit 50 CHC / 150 CHD for a raid build the base build is .. 3 prov 1 groupo 1 foxes 1 contractors with an M1A and AR
Yeh the raid regulus build is punch drunk for the mask generally
looking for raid
Use #lfg-raid-pc
What are you doing with it? One-shotting boss 2 and 3 in dark hours?
I am trying to get the regulus, any groups doing the iron horse raid?
wrong channel, please use the Raid LFG one.@grave obsidian
Thanks
Quick question, is this only for PC players?
There is one for each platform.
so xbox, ps, and pc.
Cant see where the PS5 one is labeled?
you have to pick PS in the #557396261662097409 channel
PS5 and PS4 is the exact same game@grave obsidian
same game and grouping for both PS5 and PS4 as same servers.
What should the Backpack talent be of the IH tank?
Depends most use protector though.
For IH tank you want a full hazpro with armor regen TP works well so you can give the team buffs
just need the talent ty
See first response
wrong channel, please use the raid LFG ones. @green birch
hello everyone how do i get raid help pls
If looking for a group, it would be through the LFG channels, so #lfg-raid-pc
are there any decent guides for Iron Horse to read or watch that explain the mechanics?
Sharkies guide is probably the best out there, but idk if he has a boss 4 guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIrEY79Faxk&list=PLeK6nKsdQbDpMPZH8HujxNg-EV-VvlEWM
thanks!
hey AZ Raucey
Why is the LFG thread read only?
I want to join a raid group on PlayStation platform
Use the raid lfg Channel please
Ok
Raid lfg? Hmmm we just did some channel cleaning, might have missed a permission.
No one inside IH discovery?
Not much point in discovery raids, you don't get any of the loot or learn the more complex mechanics
Anyone building a raid team hit me up...
Looking for help with learning raid mechanics on IH
te?
Still read-only
Known issue, should be fixed tomorrow. (Issue with the Xbox role, our bad).
No worries. Thanks for the update @swift peak and @icy hull
anyone raiding on pc ? 😄
Been a hot minute since I’ve played, what’s rv10?
What's up all - Been into Div2 last 3 weeks after, was a Div1 no lifer lol. Trying to get to know what the current builds and roles? are looking like for getting in to Raid, any head starts? Thanks
Do the projects for the regulus reset weekly?
If your talking about obtaining the chests and backpacks yes
you just need something like this https://www.evernote.com/shard/s332/client/snv?noteGuid=6cef99f0-f034-4ea2-b328-f89117108557¬eKey=63328dfdb9d23d088cf99c7347ff8279&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs332%2Fsh%2F6cef99f0-f034-4ea2-b328-f89117108557%2F63328dfdb9d23d088cf99c7347ff8279&title=Full%2BMeta%2BJacket to start
Much appreciated
@haughty sky did you get pieces from all the other bosses?
Just to confirm, it was your first raid of the week? You got a piece from opening the chest with your keys as well?
yes
Might’ve just been bugged. Try doing a second raid and see if it drops. If not, you might have to wait one more week.
ok thx
how many of the crafting reasources that only drop in iron horse actually drop after each clear?
New raid guy wanting to know where can i get that OP pistol
regulus from iron horse
@upbeat pilot "Fresh" in raid terms usually means a run from the start, or similar.
Thx
Keys does not carry over from week to week, correct?
Anyone else feel once the new content drops the raids are gonna get nerfed again heavily in terms of boss damage
they do actually. you can accumulate up to 15 keys
thx
Im spanish what means lfg ?
Looking for group
ª okay thx
morning Isabel
who do i need to add @mortal bronze
im confused wht does RV mean again?
Raid voice
ohh ok thx
Why can't raid keys reset daily? I mean more and more ftc's are being run through the raids
shrugs probably because if it could be done daily then people would get burnt out very quickly opposed to waiting weekly to get the keys
I like the way it is currently. Let's say you don't get the eb on Tuesday, now you have 2 reasonable choices: wait until next Tuesday or take the time to learn the mechanics which makes you more useful to future groups and future ftcs
Hello Everyone. I'm looking for a group to hunt down the EB. So how does this work? I'm new to this discord stuff.
you can still get keys everyday
last boss drops 1
both raids i think
Just last boss farm. 4 phase only takes ~8.5min. So say it takes 3.5 mins to loot and reinvite everyone, that is 8 people opening the box every 1 hr.
But nowadays almost everyone has the EB and don't want another, so new players will most probably get it if they run the raid several times.
Also like the guys before said, doing more raids is useful. You become a better team player and a better player, not just in raids.
Make more than one character to level 40 to solve this issue
The absolute best method with randoms is just to hop on over to #lfg-raid-console and join a team, ask the group to drop an EB if they get one,
90% of teams will be happy to, as the Raid is quite old and most players already have one.
Morning rivens
As someone who’s done Destiny raids and moved onto Div 2 raids, I can say that, quite frankly, Div 2 raids need a hell of a lot more prep and experience.
After a few runs, Div2 raids can be quicker than Scourge'
I have done both Destiny Raids and Div 2 raids. Destiny raids have more mechanics and Div 2 requires more load out build. Both of the have good raids just a little different approach
As for Div2 I prefer IB raid as it requires more build variety as DH raid is a pure DPS raid
honestly Div2 in general requires a hell of a lot of IQ to play properly...
The Raids being one require a stupid amount of brain power to figure out, i honestly have no idea how people managed to figure out the puzzles for IH
Another being the Hunter Puzzles. Kuddos to the 3000 IQ people on reddit who figured it out back in the day, it takes fantastic map knowledge and memory just to know where all the pieces are, let alone figuring out what piece goes where. and then theres time gating on top of that
id say its impossible without the devs giving some kind of hints so that has to have been it...
I have a few questions.. will the exotics drop if im on discovery mode? Are mics needed 100% or can i get away with doing a bunch of dmg on a dps build? And lastly, where can i find what exotics are raid exclusive? Sorry for the chunk of text.
- raid exclusives will only drop on normal mode.
- mics are not needed but knowing the basics of what to do/ having a good dps build are must haves.
- the pinned spreadsheet in #build advice lists the gear locations among more stuff.
Awesome thanks so much for the info!
Mics are generally expected, especially if your new to the raids
Anyone running ih raid
Check #lfg-raid-console
@valid marlin thanks for the heads up 😊
Night Isabel
Hey Saph 
Who tryna do a raid
Ask that in #lfg-raid-console
How often can you get Ironworks base materials? Can you get it from iron horse on discovery or do u need to do it on normal? Trying to complete projects.
@tender hollow thanks 👍
Seems i can no longer do so. Tried razorback yesterday and was only taking down half and doing upto 50 mill damage. Tried doing it both fast and slow but nope
Hey meowcat
listen guys the BigHorn has been buffed and boy does it hit hard but wait dont use it in danger close use it long range
oh and have all true DPS that is all
one more thing to say
The darkwinter works well with it
ugh forgot to say this use or get the TDI kard custom it well real help you even more
For regulus parts does it matter if you've cleared IH already will it still drop the parts
But only if you don't already have a completed regulus in inventory or stash
how hard is dark hours raid, as a returning player who has not done any of this games raids and doesnt have the “best” builds?
@tender hollow thank you 🙏🏼
Send me a message on xbox
Is anyone willing to teach/ help in a raid. Wanna get the regulus
try to check pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice
the spreadsheet only gets you so far
you need first hand experience from a raid leader
may i recommend K1ng and SlavicPony
@dusk wyvern run a IH raid that will get you the 5 new projects and in the end will get you the regulos
i never ran it before, thtas why i am asking for help
Have you run DH
i havent ran any riads before.
Ok kool ,best advice is to have a strong dps build,hop in a rv ,let them know your new. And start with dh then step up to IH
DH is dps and little mechanics
IH is dps and bunch o mechanics
And raid leader will let you know what to do or need from you
are you trying to do it with me?
kinky
i run raids from time to time
@lusty breach You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc
Wrong channel, please use the lfg Channel for that @lusty breach
I’m trying to do a raid but I never actually ran one it’s hard to get into a lobby any help would be nice
There are often beginner friendly groups, just monitor the #lfg-raid-pc channel and you'll find some groups for sure, you can also try and start one saying you are a beginner looking for mates 🙂
@feral epoch good looks
^this
I have perfect glass cannon wit 60 crit hit and 187 crit damage
you take very high damage in raids, be careful of that with glass canon, you may want to go for another talents on your early runs, you risk dying alot otherwise 🙂
sound good otherwise, you seems ready 🙂
I have 1.3mil for armor
Armour matters very little overall in div2, the only consistent way to "tank" shots is to have a Shield up.
and fyi: 1.3 mil seems like a lot for Armour, but it's only slightly over double the minimal possible amount.
1.3m armor is like what 3-4 bullets? from 900 RPM weaponry 😂
On a full red build, with the SHD Watch maxed at Lvl 40, no Armour rolls.
you get a grand total of 600k.
I don't have the game installed but how do you do the raid with the fire foundry? I may reinstall in the future, but it haunts me. It really confuses me reading and hearing youtubers talk about the mechanics of that raid, I forgot the name. Also the raid has that giant armored train only lucked out once joining a late stage raid.
Iron Horse is what you’re describing for both
Still confusing but the video you provided along with its other parts are better explained than by Division 2 youtubers, that I've watched. I'll rewatch again if I reinstall the game.
what builds are popular for iron horse? the drone skill build viable for it?
No, you want a standard red crit dps build
Rifle or EB
regular ARs generally have better damage than EB
so rifle then
Or just a regular AR, actually both would be good. Rifle+AR.
if i need a red crit build for the raid then im going with the rifle
The standard meta red build works very well in both raids
And for ar look for the standard famas
famas better? i used to hate it in csgo and somehow that mentality i brought it in td2 lmao
There is no "best" ar to use, anything with a similar firerate/damage will do fine.
Wish other builds were viable in raid and not just red builds.
Mainly red then meta FI healer then bulwark stagger or key tanks
is there an xbox community here or is it all ps and pc. people wanna join up and want to do raids but no one seems to be xbox?
yes but small amount from what ive seen.
From what I understand, there is a fairly active community on xbox ingame for LFGs.
ive tried in the player lobbies but they all blow me off saying im not high enough or because im not in their clan.
im SHD 371 and can hold my own on solo challenging
Raids are closer to Heroic. A build that can just about hold its own in Challenging likely wouldn't do too well.
You can start preparing yourself for them by putting together a decent Red focused DPS build.
I recommend starting off with the "Full Meta Jacket", that's 📌 pinned in #td2-build-advice > spreadsheet > builds.
Yea ive heard most of the in game Xbox community requires 1k shd level. Which makes no sense because SHD level is the least important factor…. (build and knowing what to do are far more important).
thank you both and ill get to work on prepping that build. i run with a group of 4 on wed and we just hit the main game or breakpoint. but that is besides the point. i want to do and learn the raid just cant find people.
I'd suggest starting with Dark Hours when you do, it's the far simpler one to start off with.
Just make sure you only play the "Normal" one, ignore Discovery mode.
I'm just wanting the stuff that's raid exclusive.
Yep, that's all locked to "Normal".
@kind berryAlso FYI, there are guides on Youtube for the raid basics for both raids. Give it a watch, will make group finding much much easier if you at least know the basics.
I've watched them. I understand the objective. In my experience there aren't a lot who want to raid if you don't match their criteria.
Let them know you're new, listen to the Raid Leader and do what they say, know some stuff about the Raid, have a solid build.
Do those things, you'll find a team.
also check for xbox raid communities in other places (eg reddit, other discords)
IRON HORSE RAID ( need the Regulus
@crisp berrywrong channel, please use the raid LFG one.
I always pictured a new raid to take place in New York, presumably in what was the Div 1's DZ area, which would be a good setpiece for both story of the raid/combat situations. Still hold on to that for the Division's future when the expansion/news come out!
Evening kettle and AZ
Hey saph
do you need certain gear for dark hours raid? or can you pretty much get away with anything?
just trying to run it to try and get the ar
general recommendation for players new to raid is full red crit AR/Rifle build - see the spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice for details
I know what to do in Dark Hours and what build to use but not to experienced in Iron Horse
dps build will work for IH as well
Good but I don't know what are those numbers and math stuff
If at least 1 or 2 know what to do and they order the rest around it can be completed right?
yeah, you want to run with a group where most of the players know what they're doing and have the right builds for their roles, then they'll tell you what door to guard or whatever and you can just point and shoot
looking for xbox raid
Then use the lfg channel
Very true
Only thing I can't do is stagger
@elder helm I've done it 1 time where we had 6 brand spanking new and 2 that knew what they were doing. We only wiped once because the new guys paid awesome attention and brought TONS of firepower
And yes it was boss 3
Do MMR builds work in a raid or nah?
they work extremely well if you can aim
Ah alright
infact theyre used in both Casual and Speedrunning raids
I do have a Hard Wired seeker spam build aswell
join a raid with that and youll get yelled at xD
For doing 0 damage? 🤣
and for having a skill build
try Mortar Seeker explosive build
its much better than hard wired im glad i switched over
🤔
2 china
1 wyvern
2 Grupo
Waveform
for overcharge swap waveform for acosta go bag
Yeah, I saw that build in the spreadsheet
Toss down seekers and deploy mortar turret
Ah
almost the entire raid pretty much
only exeption is stage 1 and stage 3 end where you DPS the boss
Dark Hours
The basic red dps build works fine gor both builds
it doesnt really matter DH is like 1/3 as long as IH and its the easier raid
IH however has much better loot and exotics
both of them you will have to tell the RL youre new and he will ask you to take a basic DPS build of 50CHC and 150CHD so you dont weight the team down too much
well stage 1 doesnt matter what you use its gonna be equally effective
Boss 1 its better to swap to DPS over MMR
Stage 2 doesnt matter either if you can aim
Boss 2 its better to DPS than MMR
Stage 3 MMR is very much sought after
Boss 3 you need DPS over MMR because of the weakpoint
Stage 4 and boss 4 speedrunners use MMR and casuals use MMR because its so damn effective
so ye other than boss 3 u can use MMR wherever
but if you cant aim why have an MMR build in the first place xd
You killed me with your last sentence, ma man
You mean the Tac50 + Nemesis combo or you refering to something else?
add clearing is most effectively done via MMRs
Chunga killing is also most effectively done via MMRs
it depends on how much communication you have tho
I think the last sentence is the most accurate thing Stick' has ever said.
you dont kill them in the door with MMR? oh you use the HF HH Strat
respect
well those are the 2 fastest ways of clearing considering they hold the World record...
again idk what ure refering to... the killing chunga in the train cart to teleport the key or what?
Big chungas
Or the ones when dealing with Razorback
IH not DH my guy
Ah, well both have chungas in them though 🤣
DH has Boomers
IH has Chungas
That's the same thing.... Just two different faction types
Boomer/heavy/chunga/tank are all interchangeable terms for what people call them
Well no boomers have Minigun
Chungas have Grenade launcher
atleast thats what ive gathered
Dont be sorry Give me INFO
Hey now, tone it down a bit. This is a server for all.
i thought everyone knows that other than people whove never done the raids yet
ive never seen the boss not be teleported with Foam for example
Think I'll work on a DPS build before dipping my toes into a raid
but that aint even relevant since i never mentioned it bcos i was talking about ad clearing
i guess 1 shotting enemies aint efficient then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Kinda seems like it wouldn't be, at least on face value.
Sure you can 1-shot enemies, but then you've gotta spend time lining up the headshots, staying behind cover, and lots and lots of reloading.
overall wouldn't a simple red DPS build do it more efficiently? Or are you talking about "contributing" to the adclear, rather than solo-ing it.
Rivens if you solo a raid ill personally send the 50 steddi sent me into your paypal
Just asked a question, if you don't have an answer that is fine. Not overly concerned either way.
How about a duo?
https://youtu.be/OySdiCZLvV4
das crazy
So in your experience, every casual raider can just snap off headshots quickly and accurately when clearing adds? I must have unlucky in my lfg teams.
from the safety of the back more or less
depends on who you put there
usually u want first timers running a basic DPS build
Ok maybe I didn't scroll up quite far enough in the conversation, but in my experience it's a very small percentage of players who have that kind of aim
I still miss more than I'd like even with Mantis highlighting heads
The headshot hitboxes in this game are bullshit tight sometimes
I find they just move around so much that it can be hard to track them etc.
And if you're playing solo... aimpuch
God, the aimpunch annoys me so much
I lost to a bunch of striker drones because I kept shooting directly above them
I think(Max) Boomer is boss 1 from DH 🤣
Hello, anyone raiding at the moment?
Might be people in the #lfg-raid-console
hi everyone. its time for me to get the regulus. im in raid voice-2
or any raid voice channel filled with peoples 😄
wrong channel for group finding, please use the raid LFG one.
thanks bro
np bro
Are there some specific builds required for raids? I want to start learning and playing raids and I was wondering if I should get a specific build for them.
50 Crit chance 150% Crit damage for new players
Theres special builds for people who know what theyre doing but well ignore those
Thanks 
Can someone please help me with a raid I’m a shd lvl 50 and I want to get the eagle bearer
@tribal elbow Famas is better. anyways, continue that convo here instead of the lfg channel
@frosty rock sorry for ping but what would you want on the famas to make it better? strained im assuming?
Optimist is the best talent choice for any DPS AR builds :)
Depends on what you're doing, optimist is a great all around talent, but there are better talents depending on the situation
patriot dps/support build?
4 piece patriot with unbreakable/intimidate with momento(pve)
For support build you can easy go for ceska and grupo with overwatch and oportunistic ... or pointman/tardigrade and whatever u like for backpack
For Famas best talent for pve is Optimist , for other AR's with lower rpm is good Strained than some people like Ranger but it depends of their style (play closer or far from npcs) ... if you dont trust , than test how many rounds you take to put down a named npc at test range area and than check how many bullets remains in the mag. , you will notice that im right about strained vs optimist for any AR's ... btw test only bodyshots cuz you will not hit all bullets for headshots only
Optimist is not the best talent for PvE...... It's bottom tier.
Like even strained on a famas is better then optimist on a dps build
Just read the talents , than do the test i was saying.. Strained will never be better than Optimist for the Famas
it is
its close, but its aboutn 8.5% overall boost vs 6%
the vector roughly matches optimist at about 6%
For me, famas strained consumes more bullets to put down a npc , rather then famas optimist... soo i cant agree
Im just talking straight math on average.
Yup what Racey said ^^
is it worth it to raid with multiple characters?
do you have the raid exclusive weapons
@hybrid stream You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc or #lfg-raid-console, depending which role you're taking today.
Wrong channel please use the raid lfg one
so i can open the box multiple time for people that need raid exotics
indeed what a foolish question
@blazing patio You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc
ah ty
Afternoon rivens
does DPS build is a must in Raids? cant use any other builds?
Div2 is rarely that restrictive, but red crit DPS builds are fantastic for first-timers.
They are expected. Other builds are used for specific roles, but as your learning the only build you'll need is the standard crit dps build. If you join a raid as a beginner with only a tank or skill build then there will be some sections where you'll not be contributing much to the team
"fiser is Wiping" whats this mean
He goes to the back and does a 1 shot mechanic. Anyone inside the furnace will be immediately killed. You can stop it if you have enough damage by shooting the red part on his backpack, but it's generally easier to just step outside
but, lately, every other team that i join, they strictly to use DPS builds
It's up to the Raid Leader on how the team operates.
If you dislike how they run things, then find another group.
It's well worth getting a red crit DPS build together anyway, just make the FMJ one in the spreadsheet and you'll be good.
anyone looking to raid trying to get keys with a friend
If I completed the regulus projects except the last one today, do I have to wait for next week to drop the exotic pieces?
Yes
Yes
If you did the raid today already then yes you will have to wait till next week
Thank you
Does it work if I do the raid on other character though? Or project is not shared between characters?
the raid projects are not shared (iirc)
but you can use the alts to farm for the FB&FI bp&chest, eb, etc
We can see youuuuu~ and told you so 😉

right...
I see the term "donkey build" What does that mean?
What's another name for donkey?
Afternoon Raucey
Heh.
Thats what comes to my mind
Yesterday i was in a group with half donkey.... Too bad i dont understand how that works (i mean the roles) but performance wise its good
Just another experience doing raid other than regular way
where can i find meta raid builds?
A good starter Raid build would be the "Full Meta Jacket", that's pinned in the spreadsheet of #td2-build-advice
Did anyone else experience any unexpected issues in raids yesterday?
i took over diagnostics as healer when he dced and i didn't f it up, which was a surprise to everyone i think 😂
Hahaha
@serene fossil 👍 good job
hey yall o/ i'm relatively new to div2 and would like to get into raiding, i'd say i'm relatively experienced with raids in shooters (having played the raids in warframe when they existed and taking newbies through destiny 2's raids for a long time) so i'd like to head straight for the raid experience. what should i be aiming for to be "raid ready"? i am currently mostly running solo and i have not really looked much into builds yet.
i think my gear score is currently around the 270s? so in terms of that i still have a decent way to go.
There's a pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice with a bunch of different builds. You wanna go for the Full Metal Jacket one first, which is an all-red DPS build. However, since you're still in World Tier phase, you might wanna go through that first because your gear will constantly outdate itself as you progress, becoming less and less useful. Same goes for the Warlords DLC (if you have it), since it increases the level cap from 30 to 40 and all the gear you acquired up until that point in DC will essentially be obsolete.
Should i get the warlords dlc for the full raiding experience or is it not needed? Thanks for the info!
Well, technically not. However, Level 40 is where the "real" endgame is at and you can only reach that with the DLC. Apart from that, the DLC introduced a couple new brand sets like Empress, Ceska and Grupo, which are great for skill and DPS builds.
@mortal zinc get the dlc it should be on sale
Where do I go to find raid group for Iron Horse?
Who has the most Dark Hours clears on pc? How many is it?
that would be Corpsemaker_ with 3094 clears (for now)
@serene forge in your lfg-raid- ps4
Thanks!
no problem!
@naive pine run the raid a few more times
They have to be fresh so you can get the keys and materials
at what time is the raid reset?
Depends on region, but it should be done by now
About 7 hours ago from right now, give or take 10 minutes.
I finished iron horse this week and got all the exclusive gear I needed. If I were to run it again could I get the pieces for the regulus or do I have to wait for reset next week?
no
Thank you
how many boss's are in IH.
@barren summit You're looking for #lfg-raid-console
4
no
Wrong channel, please use the lfg raid channel. @tender hollow
1st IH boss is a DPS check. 2nd boss has some mechanics then you dps. 3rd boss pressure/timer harder mechanics then dps. 4th boss shoot big orange bullet,some mechanics,survive bombardment ,rinse repeat then dps the boss... note if you don't kill big orange bullet DC dies and so do you
DH raid 1st boss dps check,2nd boss kill 3 bad guys while getting poisoned, 3rd boss 2 dogs killem at same time, 4th boss some mechanics destroy machine in the middle,and shoot the chungus in the ass to keep them from killing you
Evening Rivens and AZ
@verbal dagger wrong channel, please use the LFG one.
okay
In your opinion, is the Raid Exotics worth it?
Yes, but if the only reason your raiding is just hunting for them it will suck a lot of the fun out of raiding.
Afternoon Raucey
struggling to get regulus even tho i finished IH twice any advice?
where are you with the projects?
@dim wharf #ask-td2-community message
This is a bug I've not seen before, assuming they're following these steps.
Huh weird. @tall phoenix want to jump in a voice channel and look at a couple things?
after i finish IH i would be happy to join you
Hey I'm trying to earn a trophy for completing Iron Horse raid can anyone help run it.
Use your console’s LFG channel, it would be faster to find a raid
Though from what I heard console Div 2 is… dead.
I did use it
Mate?
Mate=friend, in this case
What if someone accidentally deconstruct the gear set available in IH cypher fragments. How they will assists Anaya with pieces required for Ravenous or Regulus? Let me know please.
If the chest and backpack pieces got deconstructed, then you’ll need to reacquire them from the raid again
Anybody wanna help me do the Iron horse raid so I can get the regulous revolver project and material to complete project
Need help to get Eagle bearer
For raid LFGs on Xbox, please use #lfg-raid-console
if you have already crafted the regulus can it drop from the bosses in the raid?
Unless it's been changed, yes (but only after the Project is finished)
https://imgur.com/a/SAYj5mb
Yes but it's vanishingly rare (0.5% chance at best). However, if you want a second one, just move your first to the inventory of an alt character then run the raid again with your main: as long as it's your first clear of the week you'll get the parts to craft it again. @forest lily
anybody notice "perfectly calculated" not working on first razorback pulse since the last maintenance?
Wonder if some lucky person got both Ravenous and Regulus in the same run 🤣
@boreal mesa You're looking for #lfg-raid-console
RIP
Hey looking for group to run iron Horse. I don't care about your skill level as I'm not the best or a tryhard no where close. I do kinda suck. I'm just looking to kill out a trophy for 100% completion. Can run it on the easiest difficulty don't care. Dm if ya down to play.
I have posted in lfg raid LOTS no luck so now posting everywhere.
😂
need me a moderator to ease their spam
The logic is pretty stunning tbh
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late but bless you as always ninjamen
Morning AZ
@sleek gust You are looking for #lfg-raid-console
We're going to just ignore the guy spamming his LFG message in every channel? Alright
Again?
I may be an AI, but I'm not omniscient.
Give us some time to work.
Already handled
@tender hollow You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc
@simple mesa You've already posted in the correct area, no need for spam.
Srry
Looking for 5 players to run raid on PSN
@keen kettle You are looking for #lfg-raid-console
Got it. Thanks
wrong channel, please use the raid LFG one.@simple mesa
Thnx srry@icy hull
Is clutch isnt working properly? I had devils due, amd was fighting buddy and lucy. My armor was pretty much zero after taking few seekers. And as i keep putting crit hits on buddy cluch havent propped.
clutch only heals when you're under the treshold with crits
never tried it on tech kills before tbh
It says in description that if you below 20% armor(i was at 0%) at the time, crit hits repair 3%. In that case it shouldve been to at least 20% because i didnt make kill. I know in raids some talents arent working properly, like you still get staggered by buddy seekers/ironhorse mortars even if you wear sawyer kneepads.
@mortal yew You're looking for #lfg-raid-console
@tender hollow you don't need hazpro at all if you're not doing the tank role for any boss
but the only one it rly matters is the second boss in the furnace
what about williams and the electric thing
nope
as a DPS you should be out of harm's way for all the bosses so you don't need any defensive stats except maybe unbreakable talent on your chest as an extra life
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For the Regulus project, I got exotic drops from the first 2 bosses only, nothing from 3rd and 4th boss........WHY SO?
Total 5 exotic pieces are required for the pistol, I got only 2, can someone explain?
sing my name
Did you collect those pieces already? Did you finish the raid and get the piece from the box?That’s what I can think of, because it’s a guaranteed drop for those pieces.
I donated everything, except for the last 5 exotic pieces that we have to donate for Regulus. I got only drops from first 2 bosses only, I finished the full raid but none of the other bosses dropped the exotic piece and nothing from the box in the trailer.
yeah, i saw vdos of other players, they got exotic parts dropped from all the bosses in one go...why not in my case?
Idk. You didn’t jump in a raid at boss 3 on and get the pieces? Double check the exotic components and make sure.
No didn't jump in on raid. Did the raid from the start/fresh on normal mode, still got nothing.
Weird
yes i completed all the projects....recently completed. Only project remaining is Rats Gnaw Our Bones - that is Regulus project for which we have to donate 5 exotic parts.
got it, thanks
bonjour des français pour du raid?
@tired quarry if your going to do a regulos build you'll need a dodge city holster, it'll give you the biggest bang for the buck
YES, Gunslinger Holster, thanks mate
hi guys, how do I get the projects to build items like e. g. the regulus? thx for help
1st do the IH raid then you get 5 projects
project 1 and 2 your donating fi and bulwark gear sets plus some othe r stuff
projects 3and 4 your donating miscellaneous gear
after you donate all that then you do a IH raid AFTER a tuesday reset and get the parts foir the regulos from each boss
thumbsup thank you sapherstine!
raid must be done on normal not discovery
ok, thanks for advice!!!
if youve never done a raid then i suggest doing the Dark Hours raid 1st
i've already done dh
ok then have a decent red build and go for it
@tender hollow You're looking for #lfg-raid-console
i was 🥲
Question. If I have multiple characters to play, can I get raid reward for each or only one character
Ok
Rackem packem and stackem
Wrong channel, Please use the raid lfg Channel. @sand path
@tulip stump Read the message directly above yours.
@hexed lantern Best to ask questions out of the LFG chat.
To answer it, there are 2 difficulties in the Raids, "Discovery" and "Normal".
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Discovery has matchmaking, enemies are easier, less raid-specific mechanics.
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Normal has no matchmaking, has harder enemies + more complex mechanics, but you are able to get the Raid exclusive Exotics+Gearset loot + Projects.
@thorn garnet Eagle Bearer and Ravenous are both just gained while in the Raid itself, most easily from opening the Chests with keys.
Regulus requires a Project and a few weeks.
thanks 👍
Any chance to get EB for solo player ?
only viva doing the normal raid.
@icy hull I know but i have no friend
check out #lfg-raid-pc , always see groups forming viva there.
Just keep an eye out for someone saying LF(x) (looking for x number of players) RV(x) (raid voice channel x) DH (dark hours)/IH (iron horse). When you see a group with open spots just jump in and ask who you need to add, then add them on uplay. Make sure your name in the discord channel matches uplay. Let people know your new so they can explain what you need to do and what your role is for each boss. Most people have no issues walking people through for the first time as long as your upfront about it.
Afternoon Raucey