#td2-raid-discussions

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radiant flume
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agree with @civic dagger 😁😁😁 ar or rifle will be great for that distance ( better in accuracy )

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i think around 100mil..you can easily achieve that number with ravenous and d50 with dodgecity holster

tender hollow
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50 chc or more and 150 chd or more

odd star
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80 crit damage is wayyyy too low

stray ether
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how to do iron hose last part?

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is it dont atk the boss at all?

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how do u activate the minigun

jolly ore
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It’s a process

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You have to hit the heavys for the key and make sure you take out the train first

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Yes leave the boss, hit the train, then everyone, literally everyone needs to gang up on her

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It can be quick if you have the right people

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Need a tank or two to help when the bunkering down across from the hung happens

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There are a few YouTube’s on it as well

stray ether
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so.. only the guy who picks the key up can use the pc?

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when am i suppoed to hit the boss?

signal basin
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Yes. The one with the key can only operate the mini gun. Typically have two tanks to do the keys and be on the boss.

civic dagger
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when the red bullet is destroyed

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(and everyone is ready to hop into the little area safe from mortars)

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usually you grab 2 more rockets after breaking bullet during each phase too

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but that's just to speed up the next section

stray ether
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so... where do i get rewards from raid?

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is it just killing the boss drops that all? or is there something i need to open? a chest?

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where do i get the fancy foundry bulwark chest n backpack or the future initiative?

signal basin
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There are four keys to get during the course of the raid. The boss drops one and then you can open a chest. Each boss has a chance to drop the pieces.

stray ether
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where is this chest?

signal basin
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When fighting the boss she comes out of a trailer and when you kill her, that’s where the chest is

stray ether
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does it only drop from normal difficulty?

signal basin
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Yea

golden flint
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iron horse cherry if i can join

broken venture
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what's a good razorback jammer build?

mortal bronze
# broken venture what's a good razorback jammer build?

4x HW with skill damage stats, Wyvern chest with Kinnetic Momento ( Overwatch ... only if you have a good team, cuz you must be always in cover soo the talent can be on , in order to take the drones) , BTSU gloves , 3x skill haste mods , Survivalist , 2nd skill it can be restore hive... and use Scorpio on any part of Razorback, every 7nd bullet with Scorpio will amplify all the team damage

broken venture
plucky mist
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anyone got a fresh raid going on?

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lfg any raid i have done the DH raid before but have not done the IH raid

humble solar
plucky mist
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LFG raid doing about 2mil dps

safe cosmos
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Besides this not being #lfg-raid-pc
2M dps is pretty low for a red build

safe cosmos
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But besides, a proper jammer build shouldnt have FI

tender hollow
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^ maybe it can help very good teams kill RB in less than 4 phases. however i've found for LFGs, having a FI doesn't help very much, because when the team is not strong, they will rarely have full armor, overwatch and/or opportunistic will help more

verbal mist
# safe cosmos But besides, a proper jammer build shouldnt have FI

It gives the team 25 percent damage . But requires a good team .what the op didn’t tell you Is that you can’t get hit or you won’t be able to kill drones . I run both loadouts. I’m not sure why op said they don’t need the Xbow. It’s just to blow the grate open . Not a matter of need .

verbal mist
safe cosmos
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Okay i repeat, a normal jammer build required hardwired

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Because, jamming twice in a row to rid yourself of drowns is invalueable

verbal mist
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?

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Why would you need to jam twice ?

safe cosmos
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Besides, its 35 from FI, 10 from Scorpio and another 10 from Opportunistic

verbal mist
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You can’t run opportunistic.

safe cosmos
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First initial open spawns drones, when he deploys, its another wave

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And the final wave comes when tge team takes too long to damage the modules

safe cosmos
verbal mist
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Drone killer fi build is 25 percent not 35 . And you don’t run opportunistic as you need perfect calculated .

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Your wearing the chest and three other pieces not bp . I guess you could run a yellow bp with sd , sh and opportunistic but can’t imagine how your timing would work

vagrant wing
vagrant wing
drowsy condor
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Hey guys, strong player here Dps build playing on ps5 look for iron horse and or summit runs! Add me or messege me! I’ve never done IRONHORSE so would LOVE a run!

verbal mist
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@vagrant wing hey I learn something everyday . How can you run an fi drone build with opportunistic on razor ?

safe cosmos
vagrant wing
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Unless you one shot razor ofc 😉

verbal mist
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Lol 😂 yeah that takes some practice

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With hw build or high end you run opportunistic to kill drones ? Curious

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I run drones a bunch . Always playing with different builds . Not a big deal just curious

vagrant wing
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Both really. Although it's getting harder with High end build now that we have the pistol build meta. As for the HW build well - BTSU out, Oop in. It might be tricky on the 3rd wave but personally i only run that build in a group that i know well enough

vagrant wing
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it is possible...

verbal mist
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Seriously?

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We rav double stack and pistol wp. Easy peezy. The fi build kinda fun . How in the heck you running all red drone killer ?

vagrant wing
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where's Stellar when you need him?

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@west spruce

verbal mist
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I’m tired of hitting like marshmallow on razor . Hook me up

vagrant wing
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🏃‍♂️

west spruce
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Typically with capacitor you will be able to one shot drones when capacitor is at max stack + PGC chest. question is to jam 2nd wave so that's where red core HW comes into play, or if you are trusting enough just go regular dps and have another circle player do the same with you.

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Downside of this is that you probably won't be running crossbow, as swapping away from capacitor will render your stack 0. But you can compensate with technician + prenade grate before 100% to make it work

verbal mist
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@west spruce so to red 4 hw ?

west spruce
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yeah, but it's more of a novelty build i suppose, full skill tier still have the benefits of overcharging for teammates + you doing decent dmg with Capacitor still.

verbal mist
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Interesting though

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Shooting razor build stacks like rav does ? Curious

west spruce
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yeah

verbal mist
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Ahhh makes sense

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Thank you

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I’ve been running Scorpio a bunch . Helps lfg ad guys kill ads . I’m slowing the ads down . Our clan I don’t need to even shoot . I might try that just for fun

west spruce
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yeah with all red your jammer range will suffer, so gotta make sure all drones are ready to be catch before you start charging

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Scorpio debuff is definitely more universally helpful even on Razorback damage, as running this style means you can't really crossbow which negates the idea of being an all-rounder jammer crossbow supportive player.

verbal mist
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I just shoot ads to help . I normally run crossbow with hw build

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Throw fire nades at spawn doors when needed

west spruce
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yeah that's the standard style, what i mean is relying on capacitor to build up skill damage will mean you aren't able to do xbow but probably late/early grenade.

atomic nova
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Red hardwired was always possible and If you do calculated you wouldn’t need HW because you kill enough drones to get skills back @verbal mist

tawdry widget
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You can also run a red core HW + PCG + Fox Prayer's with skill damage on every piece. That way you don't need the Capacitor stacks and can use the Crossbow to open. It's a middle ground from a yellow HW and Stellar's full red.

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If for some reason you want to switch a couple of those skill damage attributes for CHC / CHD, a Perfect In Sync weapon can also give you +20 skill damage as long as you pop one shot on Razorback just before jamming.

atomic nova
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I just don’t run my all red drone build because BTSU is nice and I don’t have any slots for builds left on any of my characters

west spruce
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Not sure how all red hardwired is always possible before Capacitor is around, do you mean you try to proc in sync on a drone before jamming?

tawdry widget
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I mean that other variation I'm using. All red weapon damage cores HW + PGC + Fox Prayers, skill damage rolled on all pieces. You get 90% skill damage with PGC.

west spruce
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yeah I get your build point, i was referring to @atomic nova reference on red hardwired was always possible without skill damage roll

tawdry widget
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If you want to keep, PGC and Fox Prayer's with CHD, for example, it's possible to compensate with Perfect In sync.

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Ah, nevermind then.

atomic nova
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@west spruce gotcha

drowsy condor
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Hey guys, strong player here Dps build playing on ps5 look for iron horse and or summit runs! Add me or messege me! I’ve never done IRONHORSE so would LOVE a run! Add me or messege me

upbeat mesa
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@drowsy condor use the lfg-raid channel below for that, this channel is just for discussion

drowsy condor
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My bad

west spruce
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@atomic nova mind elaborating how all red HW was always viable in clearing drones before Capacitor is around?

long niche
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All red hardwired....

verbal mist
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@atomic nova i run calculated in fi build if you would ever run dh with me 🙂

atomic nova
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@west spruce I pricked spiked on an ad

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Procked *

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The skill damage always was there for me

tawdry widget
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*procced

atomic nova
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Me no speaka English well man😑

hollow rapids
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So when I'm on div 2 u guys or gals can help me do normal raid

late river
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on DH?

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@hollow rapids

tender hollow
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hi all, veteran player but super new to the raiding. in fact i have never. how difficult would you say is it to find a group of patient players willing to help a new raider get through the first raid? willing to follow instructions and try and research ahead of time. would also love if a buddy could join us.

umbral rune
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Dude im looking for the same thing but most people just turn me away because i dont have 30+ completions

tender hollow
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@umbral rune add me we can get a big enough group of newbs and go on our own xD

umbral rune
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Lmao

tender hollow
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I'm watching cowldbwy's youtube guide as i grind right now xD

umbral rune
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Im about to clock in for my 10-6 shift so ill be able to play tomorrow afternoon

tender hollow
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i'll likely be on if you wanna try and get a group going

umbral rune
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Ok, my GT is ATLAS#7007, gamer pic is guts from berserk

jade imp
tender hollow
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@jade imp added on discord and uplay

graceful patrol
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Hello all. I've been playing Division 2 off and on for months first on Xbox and now on PC. Console world is much easier to find people, here on the PC it seems a tad tougher. I'm level 35 not much into builds but getting there, and would would love to do some raids. Never done them before. I'm based in the UK. Handle is FourKicksRodeo. Got the expansion. thanks

trail oriole
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For Morozova staggering, do I need maxed mods to hit the resistance needed? Or will I always get zapped regardless of my shock resist?

civic dagger
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shock resist definitely helps, ideally if you keep a bit of distance she shouldn't zap you too often though

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i mean ideally ideally she stays on the ramp and just never shocks but shit can happen I guess

vagrant wing
trail oriole
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I haven't done it yet so I'm more than likely gonna get shocked, just wanted to make sure I was gonna be using the right mods for the inevitable.

vagrant wing
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It's not that hard to reach that 84%. If you can it might be good to strive for

trail oriole
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Oh, it's only 84%? For some reason I thought it was 92%

vagrant wing
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84 as far as i know. I'll have to check my tank build later to see what's the % i got

upbeat mesa
# graceful patrol Hello all. I've been playing Division 2 off and on for months first on Xbox and ...

For raid you need to be lvl40 and have at least a all red dps build with M1A, any high Dps AR(Famas, M4, Fal). 3 piece Prov, fox prayer, contractor, Cheska or group(depends how min maxed you are)

SHD Level doesn't matter as long as you have a build that can solo heroic. Raid has roughly 2 player heroic hp scaling so you have to handle that.

You don't have to watch any video about the raid, just say that you are new and ppl will explain everything you need to know

graceful patrol
upbeat mesa
graceful patrol
lilac saddle
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Can you get raid exclusive items from discovery mode

warm ibex
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No

lilac saddle
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:(

vast musk
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Can't even get keys from it

long niche
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Do the small untargetable machine gun turrets on the train during Morozova always aim for the agent in the circle at the Vulcan gun?

atomic nova
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No

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Sometimes they do and don’t

long niche
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So they legit just aim for anyone and everyone.

safe cosmos
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And chances are, the tank is going to attract their attention more often because of where the hacking circle is

cyan ferry
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can someone drop a razor back drone kill build that's battle tested for noobs? I got a build from a youtuber...... the China light glass cannon trolled me so hard ;S I just kept dying.

vagrant wing
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Make sure you have 90% skill dmg and lower than 12s cooldown and you're good

signal basin
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Basic one is to use 4pc HW with the bag with skill damage, BTSU gloves, Wyvern chest; glass cannon or kinetic momentum. Restorer hive, jammer pulse.

flint iris
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Skilled also works, but it’s a little buggy at time whether you meet the SD required or not

bright orchid
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For iron horse raid. Is a skill build OK? Want to attempt it becaus I want that welder hood

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Ok m currently running a turret and drone

vagrant wing
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Not really

azure fossil
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does anyone have a doc/guide for exactly how various buffs are shared between sub-groups in a raid? For example: Coyote's Mask, Survivalist +10% DMG to Status, Demolitionist +5% to Out of Cover, etc etc

tawdry widget
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AFAIK, demo and sharpshooter is sub-group wide, everything else raid wide.

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The best way to check is the buff bar.

tender hollow
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can someone help me do camp wight oak on emvaded

tawdry widget
long niche
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Ive been using HW Chest, Mask, Knee, and Holster with China Light Backpack and BTSU gloves. If you pulse as the hatch doors let out the drones, you can drop your hive and reset your Jammer that way.

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You can shoot the razorback to build capacitor stacks or proc in-sync.

azure fossil
azure fossil
long niche
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Im actually not sure, I haven't directly tested it because I usually am there for the clear and not to science

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Ill have to see.

azure fossil
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yeah I'd like to experiment myself, as Capacitor with GC is no slouch and throwing together as many crit attributes you can fit and still one-tap drones, would be nice

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Coyote's buff will take you places with that build, you won't just be a "waste of a slot" anymore.

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not that dedicated jammer is a waste, but you know what I mean

long niche
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Well, its not like you're a complete waste of a slot just being a jammer bot, but I know that being able to DPS the razorback helps reduce phase counts.

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DPS the razorback weakpoints*

bright orchid
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What's a build that every team needs? If I google raid healer or raid tank will that build work for either raid?

compact mango
bright orchid
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Just the generic red build since skill builds aren't so great?

flint iris
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Yeh red build is the one everyone should have

bright orchid
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I have one of those but my skill build seems to do more damage

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Will need to look into why that is I guess

safe cosmos
safe cosmos
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You want no tank for boss 1 and a healer that can overcharge with BTSU's
Boss 2: Well coordinated heal that can juggle both healing skills quite well while being able to do various tasks/coordonate the team and a fire resistant tank if your squad is not advanced enough for a damage dealer to do this

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Boss 3: Status immune tank or fire immune (Fire only variant needs to be skilled to dodge the boss himself) and a healer

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and Morozova normally should be both heal and tank with a ravenous at best.
Juggling with explosive skills on either may prove annoying

subtle totem
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@safe cosmos u have forgotten boss 4 which is buddy and lucy with the need of LMG and Scorpio

tender hollow
twilit mirage
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How hard is it to learn IH?

zinc bluff
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wtf is going on in rv1 LOL

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@tender hollow 💯

tawdry widget
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Taking into account that Capacitor's 40 stacks equals 60% skill damage, plus the 30% amplified from PGC, that gets above 90%.

split cedar
pine stirrup
safe cosmos
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Buddy and lucy is boss 3 of DH, you dont play tanks of heals in DH if everything is going accordingly

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Just a HW set to rid yourself of Drones

safe cosmos
empty rapids
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Can anybody recommend me guide on iron horse raid where the steps is properly described

safe cosmos
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Let me look if i can find anything

odd star
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most ive looked on youtube the tutorials were dogshit

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so i just asked people in raids

safe cosmos
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Yeah, i think its probably best to get it explained from a guy with atleast 10+ clears

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During a raid at best

odd star
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division youtubers need to learn from destiny youtubers on how to make raid tutorials

vagrant wing
safe cosmos
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This guide is also outdated

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It does not go over how to simplify stuff

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And basically how the raid in pratice works

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Its all theory

vagrant wing
# safe cosmos This guide is also outdated

Outdated how?
They asked for a "guide where the steps are properly described". The raid hasn't changed since launch so....
Also Also the 2nd guide is being actively updated by @little cave

safe cosmos
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The thing is

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Noone needs to stay in Boss 2's Main room, which the guide does not go over, its also assuming that the controlroom does not break before fieser can actually die.
Morozovas Guide as far as i read goes over destroying the Mortars again after Phase 1 which is unnessecary.
The guide says to use Mortar Turrets to deal with shields on Boss 1, which is telling players they should play Skill builds, which generally is the wrong approach to this fight altogether.
During boss 3 the communication most not be that high in the individual phases like the cogs.
During Boss 2 the guide states that you could shoot Fieser for reduction of his damage, which never should be done.
And lastly, the guide is not clear enough on what to do during the Diagnostics phase when any of the 3 colors will show up, especially important for the Red Phase and how to skip it.

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Reminder that this claims to be a guide, not an overview

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Thats why i would already say, let your local Raidlead explain it to you clearly, instead of reading a guide and saying "I know what to do"

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This will rather backfire

vagrant wing
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Noone needs to stay in Boss 2's Main room, which the guide does not go over, its also assuming that the controlroom does not break before fieser can actually die.
that's a strat not a step, and a bad one if you ask me
Morozovas Guide as far as i read goes over destroying the Mortars again after Phase 1 which is unnessecary.
you might want to read the guide again
The guide says to use Mortar Turrets to deal with shields on Boss 1, which is telling players they should play Skill builds, which generally is the wrong approach to this fight altogether.
no it's not. It's specify some options and this in one of them
During boss 3 the communication most not be that high in the individual phases like the cogs.
no idea what you mean by that
During Boss 2 the guide states that you could shoot Fieser for reduction of his damage, which never should be done.
it state it as an option (which i agree is a bad one but it is an option nontheless)
You think of this guide as a strat guide. Don't. That's a guide to the mechanics. However you want to battle them is totally up to you

safe cosmos
vagrant wing
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let's agree to disagree then 🙂

safe cosmos
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As long as i dont have to host the raid he is in then

verbal mist
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never tried mortars on boss 1 . We foam and regulas shield dudes. Does mortar work ? @vagrant wing

vagrant wing
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Yes it is. It's not a good strat as @safe cosmos stated tho

verbal mist
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hmm ok cool . Thank you

safe cosmos
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You mainly just kill the first pair of shields, and the boss should be dead before the next wave of shield spawns (using Sweet Dreams or Lullaby)

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Or atleast, close enough to it

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So even killing 1 or 2 shields ends him

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There are no perfect builds required, just alot of debuff and buff stacking

vagrant wing
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Pretty sure Edmod know that

safe cosmos
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i dont know him personally

verbal mist
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yeah im very familiar with each boss just never used mortar turret

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crazy stuff. Joined lfg raid yesterday that said "no carrys" "kwtd" and the dude was shd 4 along with 5 others that had completed it once. I was like uhh guys i gotta roll lol

safe cosmos
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So far i got 51 runs, if anyone were to say no carries, i'd be losing my shit

little cave
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@safe cosmos my guide is mainly for speed running, but all the strategies are sound for even normal runs. There are strategies discussed, builds shown, diagrams, and even video showcasing the strata outlined in my guide. If you have any further questions, please feel free to DM me

safe cosmos
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i only looked at the top guide

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The visual one on imgur

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Didnt check out the second link yet

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Yep, its a speedrun alright

fluid pier
safe cosmos
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Na Alphabet stuff is mostly comms dependant

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But you can minimize comms to just doing that

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And ofc syncing the emergency Shutdown

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So individual calls from the leader may be clearer

azure fossil
tawdry widget
# azure fossil Thanks, that's really interesting. Its kind of sweaty though I'm not sure I woul...

Personally, I use HW with weapon damage cores, PCG and Fox Prayers, skill damage on all pieces. That gets the 90% skill damage. I can still kill NPCs, help with the weak points, open the vents with the Survivalist crossbow and take care of the drones. Capacitor is a bit more involved to make it work and you can't use Survivalist (the stacks are gone if you switch to the crossbow), but naturally you'll have more DPS with a full red CHC / CHD HW.

verbal mist
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not a bad idea on that

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never tried it. Ill farm Hw for decent sd rolls

fluid pier
tame vector
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in time 😄

tender hollow
tame vector
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you can try to press it "a moment later" 😄 good luck with that 😛

azure fossil
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to what extent can you chip Boomer with Negotiator's Dilemma, if multiple people are running it?

vagrant wing
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You need 3-4 ppl running it to actually see a difference

bright orchid
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So for a dps build been reading and it's basically coyotes mask, contractor gloves, fox prayer, and the 3 set for D&H. This sound about right? Or is the crit build better in the long run

vagrant wing
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D&H
no. Providence maybe.... there are many slightly different variation to that build. Go with what makes you most comfortable

bright orchid
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Meant walker and harris

vagrant wing
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W&H then. Well chc - chd will give you more dmg especially since you're running Coyote's

bright orchid
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Can't post a picture of my build but without the mask I'm at 40% chc and 100 chd. With coyote, contractor gloves, fox prayer, 1 grupo and 2 providence. Looks like I need to farm better versions to get more chc and chd

vagrant wing
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with all the pieces you mentioned you should be at ~50% if your watch is maxed on chc

bright orchid
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My rolls could be better

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My armor does have a hazard protection instead of chc

vagrant wing
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oh well 🤷‍♂️
Looks like you have some farming to do... You can replace Coyote's with a Ceska for a short term buff to your chc

bright orchid
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But weapon damage, hazard protection and chd all rolled max with perfect spark

vagrant wing
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Spark!? get rid of that chest

bright orchid
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I was going to mod it with a different perk

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Otherwise I would have just modded chc instead of hazard protection

vagrant wing
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Well since it's becoming a build discussion let's move to #td2-build-advice . Also i suggest you head over there and look at the pinned comments. There's a spreadsheet there with some basic builds

somber bison
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anyone running the raid? im trying to get the eagle bearer

alpine linden
alpine linden
flint iris
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No crossplay in D2 btw

alpine linden
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Is this not the Xbox section? 😅

honest sundial
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no its common among all platforms

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The raid discussions that is.

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So PC, XB1 and PS4 can all come in here.

alpine linden
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Cool beans! Thanks

gloomy onyx
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DOLBY8DIGITAL#2502

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I can help in the raid

valid marlin
boreal crystal
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I'm relatively new to this discord and wanted to know what this "rv" stands for in the lfg channel?

halcyon pebble
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its raid voice

boreal crystal
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Dang, thank you 🙈

graceful flame
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Whats the reccomended gear for the raids? I have yet do actually do any of them as a returning player

odd star
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stack the fuck outta crits my man

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coyotes 3 providence 1 grupo and foxs prayers

tame sage
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Im curious, what is requirements of "experienced player" for raid? Like, Ive never been in raids via this discord, but have ~100 IH runs on normal. Am I experienced? 😄

verbal mist
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Makes zero sense 👆.

tame sage
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why tho

verbal mist
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If you have 100 ih clears then it’s blatantly obvious you have raid experience in ih

tame sage
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I wasn't sure, so asked

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maybe there are some local strategies, that you must know to participate

safe cosmos
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Expirience is a loose term

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Like me with 51 runs, i sure am expirienced alright

verbal mist
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🤔 well you could be right on that one but again one would assume after 100 complete raids (not morozova only ) you would know a majority of the strats

safe cosmos
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But someone with 10 clears can still be inexpirience with the raid, due to not having done most roles to understand what everyone is doing

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they could just go ahead and always play add clearing and never worry about the rooms/roles most raidleads/very expirienced players fill

tame sage
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agree with everything

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ty

proper yoke
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60% CHC, 165% CHD good enough for raids? Watch is only lvl 100 and I believe it would give me extra 20% crit damage

tawdry widget
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@proper yoke that's fine 👍

fluid pier
tame sage
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Ye, already tried once. Kinda the same.

noble glacier
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@manic willow you know.... a bit of a nicer tone would be appreciated.

manic willow
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Do i know you personally?

noble glacier
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no, hence why just telling someone to shut up might be a bit.. idunno, like out of the ordinary to put it lightly

manic willow
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Ok boomer

noble glacier
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ever had an inch of respect?

stiff zephyr
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To be honest, you where bitching at people. Ok you might be right, but why do you need to publicly explain that after leaving them?

noble glacier
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i was not bitching, i was in that group for DH, allready wiped 3 times cause the dude leading cannot be heard

alpine linden
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Damn of all days for Xbox to be down ;___;

tender hollow
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Has anyone worked out what is the minimum skill damage that you need to 1 shot the RB drones if using The Sacrifice (Perfect Glass Canon)? trying to work out if a red hw dodge city holster build can work or not.

Did some testing: Perfect Glass Canon + 10 skill damage, +8.3 skill damage on holster, Foxes Prayer with 8 DOOC and +10 skill damage, 10 skill damage on watch, + survivalist with +10 healing (not +10 skill damage) is enough to 1 shot the drones, using 4 x HW too

Also did another test in Discovery. All red core with the above setup and it worked

mortal bronze
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you need 2 dps players with perfect glass cannon , tdi kard for extra 1 skill tier, and they comm. who takes 1st and 2nd wave of drones, thats basic for 4m DH all run

tender hollow
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@mortal bronze Ooo interesting. ty

icy hull
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Wrong channel please use the LFG one. @old jay

tender hollow
tawdry widget
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The other way is using Capacitor and having it at full stacks, that way you don't need skill damage on any pieces, but need it to be at full stacks.

jade vessel
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are pure skill build viable for the raid ?

vagrant wing
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Not really

jade vessel
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i wonder why, the do so much dmg

vagrant wing
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couple reasons:

  1. they lack burst dmg so you won't be able to do good dmg on the bosses
  2. some bosses can't be targeted by skills (razorback, and boomer not during dmg phase + bosses weakpoints like Grey & Williams)
  3. some bosses will insta kill your skills (B&L)
icy hull
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Er well, skill are mainly burst damage fyi (big damage up front but with CD) or sustain damage lacking burst (turret/drone).

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But yes, what Adler said ^^

vagrant wing
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it's not tho? you burst down an NPC with a full red build way way faster than any variation of skill build except froma demo build

icy hull
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Er well unless red build is HH, skill builds have much higher burst (can get 11m bomb sticky on demo or ~9m non demo build, both with ~15s cd.

Red builds win in DPM, on contest though

vagrant wing
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Again not demo build 🙃

fluid pier
icy hull
honest sundial
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Demo builds still rely on skill tiers for the most part so technically they are skill builds.

vagrant wing
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oh well you know what i meant 🙂
and if we're talking about the sticky it's no use as a dps source for the raids anyway

jade vessel
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personally i find skill build more exiting 🙂

icy hull
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TLDR: raids want a good balance of burst and DPM damage. which red builds can have but skill builds tend to struggle.

icy hull
vagrant wing
icy hull
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Oh and also. Skill builds are in fact viable for raids, but not at all optimal.

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@jade vessel ^^

honest sundial
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IH Raid is the one where multiple types of builds are used. DH raid, dps all the way lol.

jade vessel
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i can imagine them for guardin certain places

verbal mist
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i havent tried skill builds in IH.

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we as a clan jokingly tried DH and made it to buddy and lucy with just skill builds. was fun

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so many drones and turrets it was crazy . Boomer didnt know where to go lol

fierce jungle
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if you join an lfg with a skill build they will most likely tell you to change

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you will be holding the team back a lot in terms of dps imo

queen cedar
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Can anyone recommend what sort of gear i should have before attemping raids

tender hollow
tawdry widget
icy hull
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yup like I always say “anything is viable BUT not everything is optimal”.@tender hollow

long niche
tawdry jasper
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Anyone have some advice for me on how to teach people which are deaf, can't even make a voice, jump into the raid with no builds and knowledges? I mean I'm willing to teach but I have no clue how to help them

tidal patrol
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if they arent willing to listen there isn't much you can do

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tbh you shouldn't have to teach, google exists, theres also plenty of guides on reddit

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its one thing if they dont know about a small detail but a whole raid is different

tawdry jasper
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Alright thanks for solving my annoyance

tender hollow
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^ I think Youtube will have some raid guide with subtitles

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but if there builds are not there and its 7 first timers without comms its challenging

tidal patrol
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believe me I put up with it for 2 hours last night, I'm very patient but I disbanded after the 20th attempt on the 3rd IH boss

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and yeah what Ninja said

tender hollow
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I have heard of a deaf clan that does raids, and somehow they have some type of comms (maybe a 3rd party app)

icy hull
fierce jungle
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anything is "viable" when you're being carried by 7 other people

fluid pier
tawdry jasper
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Alright

frail bolt
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Quick help for iron horse, in the williams fight, we finish the cog wheel phase, but the top floor was still on fire not giving me access to the panel to call the letters

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Any reason why?

normal mirage
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that is the fire phase, which can be still active even after finishing cogs. You have two options:
1.) Find the correct fire valve and then proceed as normal
2.) Read the panel for letters like a boss. Requires coordination with the healer, and you can read the panel at an angle.

frail bolt
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Just fire phase can happen or can the steam and electric happen to?

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Can all one of the three happen, sorry bad phrasing

normal mirage
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any of those phases can happen after finishing cogs

frail bolt
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And we still have to run the diagnostics for that or could we ignore?

normal mirage
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you generally want to ignore it and just go straight to pipe reading. If you can't heal / read through fire, it's much safer to do one last diagnostic (fire) before doing pipes

frail bolt
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Ok dope, thanks a lot

normal mirage
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np

tacit pivot
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reading these raid-fail comments does not build my confidence for attempting to raid

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on top of the fact that its not even guaranteed ill get the exotic i want

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and yet its still something i desire

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sigh

normal mirage
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no pain no gain

tacit pivot
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that works in the real world

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not the gaming world

somber bison
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lmk if anyone tryna run iron horse. have one other with me

vagrant wing
tawdry widget
worn fossil
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out of curiosity, besides the fun of doing the raid and such, I got the eagle bearer during my first DH, is there anything really worth getting in that raid?

tawdry widget
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different strokes for different folks, but loot-wise, no

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in general, it's probably the worse place to get loot in the game, at the moment, as you can't target loot anything

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before Aces, Negotiators and Tip of the Spear chest and backpack were released in the open world loot pool, there were those to hunt down in DH, along side with the EB. but now it's just EB and those sets blueprints, nothing more

ebon bolt
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Any raids happening 40 plus clears in both name is RowdyAsTheyCome

ruby iris
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what does RV and TU mean

tawdry widget
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Raid Voice

ruby iris
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aah

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ty

tawdry widget
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Title Update, I guess

noble glacier
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@west spruce you have the highest SHD level i have seen yet, for real how many hours you got in this game

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i have a pretty maxed build and i usually feel like i carry allot of people but that group for the DH run just now i felt like a truly tiny piece and felt carried HARD

west spruce
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Uplay UI mentioned about 5.4k hours. But raid is about teamwork, the more everyone gets to pull their own weight the easier it gets for others.

upbeat mesa
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lol

noble glacier
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that is true, that was like i said my fastest run yet and the lack of comms was scary at first but my god that worked very well. thank you for such a good experience

strong apex
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Any tips on how to find a group as a first time raid player?

noble glacier
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just ask in #lfg-raid-pc and mention that it is your first time and would like to 4recieve in game explanation

crude prawn
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@charred mortar JUST STOLE MY FRD"S RAVENOUS

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would you like to explain yourself?

charred mortar
wise rivet
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does at least 1 key dop per raid?

tawdry island
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Yes

tawdry widget
rare flare
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two quick questions:

  • what does "RV" stand for in the raid lfms?
  • are there any text guides to the raids?
flint iris
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RV stands for raid voice #, the voice channels below

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And I think @vagrant wing had a pretty good one

vagrant wing
rare flare
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cheers

tender hollow
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Is the raid hard to do? I want to try to get eagle bearer and the backpack for the healing gearset

tawdry widget
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It's a team effort, it can be easy if everyone knows what to do, it can be hard if no one knows what to do. As both raids have been out for a while now, it's usually ok to teach one or two new players per run.

wooden mountain
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Hi I am looking for a raid group. Dark Hours.I have my DPS build ready.....What I have to do.....is it the right thread to write?

halcyon pebble
thick atlas
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have a qns about my razorback drone build, i cant seem to destroy all the drones in one pulse. Every drone is always left w a slither of health after my pulse, am i doing anything wrong?

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I use hardwire mask, body armor, holster and kneepads w btsu gloves and wyvern backpack

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maxed out SD as well

halcyon pebble
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@thick atlas use hardwired backpack and change that your wyvern backpack to a wyvern chestpiece with glass cannon or kinetic momentum

wooden mountain
halcyon pebble
tender hollow
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i wished they dropped optimisation stuff in the raid. I'm spending 80% of my time looting solar farm and tunnels

viscid fossil
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congrats @dawn harness for your 36m IH run

dawn harness
grave jungle
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What is a good talent for chest piece other than glass canon for the jammer position in DH Razorback? (considering you have crossbow as special weapon)

signal basin
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Wyvern with kinetic momentum

grave jungle
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Tank you!

warm ibex
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Overwatch is what i use. Works + buffs the whole team

verbal mist
verbal mist
verbal mist
warm ibex
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Of course, you can sit on the generator shoot the crate with xbow and then move to the middle. Always in cover so overwatch is fully up

verbal mist
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I’ve ran an fi build for drones but always interested in learning more . I do drones a bunch . You need 90 percent sd to kill them .

warm ibex
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Mask, knees, backpack, holster is hw with skilldmg, btsu gloves, wayvern chest with skill dmg+skill haste

verbal mist
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Hmm weird . My math says yours is 75 percent unless I’m doing math wrong

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Looks like I overwatch gives you 10

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So 85 percent

warm ibex
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4x10 hw + 10+10wyvern + 10 watch + 15 3pc hw + 10 overwatch = 95

verbal mist
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Ahh yes watch . There’s where I lost

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Ok cool yeah I could see that work .

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I missed the watch sd

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My fi drone build uses perfect calculated . I’m very familiar with staying in cover pulsing . I’ll give your overwatch a try

formal pollen
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Hey group, I’m looking for some folks that wouldn’t mind helping me do a Raid. I haven’t done one before and I can’t find anyone that wants to do one. Im on PC

cedar kindle
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hi! need help with floor 100 the summit

wispy idol
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I can help if you want

cedar kindle
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yess pls

halcyon stream
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You know how to prevent a furnace from exploding while you are raiding a steel plant ?

tawdry widget
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You mean third boss in Iron Horse? You just have to be quick on all phases.

halcyon stream
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Yes, but every time I do it I fail even with a full team :/

severe jungle
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which section are you failing on?

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Because if you're failing after you finish everything you might be doing the right stuff, but have trash DPS, or not know the best ways to kill him

halcyon stream
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I ail because my team doesn't know what to do to prevent an explosion

tawdry widget
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First you must be sure you all know the mechanics, the 3 color phases, aligning the cogs / opening the molten iron, doing the alphabets and lastly destroying the three turrets and killing the boss

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After that, it's perfecting all those mechanics, it's a timed thing, so you just have to be quick, there's no other "trick" to it

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Usually the four areas, from the top of my mind, that may or may not take longer, depending on the team are:

  1. the fire/red phase, if it's not canceled at once, you need to find the correct valve.
  2. the electric/yellow phase, sometimes no one is looking for the three boxes that are sparking
  3. aligning the cogs / opening the molten iron. it's fine if there's only one person on top and another one on the bottom guiding the one on top. but the opening of the 3 molten irons can take time if the whole team is running around, shooting the boss (that isn't needed on that phase)
  4. killing the boss itself, if there isn't enough DPS / anyone canceling the boss's healing backpack, it may take too long
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To each of these 4 things, theres stuff to perfect, but the whole fight itself, which is much more than only these 4, needs to be a somewhat coordinated sequence of phases, the more everyone knows on what's going to happen next / what needs to be done, better.

halcyon stream
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Thanks dude, this will be useful to me

granite cairn
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wpwt: anybody sherpa'ing Iron Horse PC?

stone hatch
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when do raids reset to where i can run again for a chance at chest?

halcyon pebble
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if you're talking about the last chest after the boss

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you can keep opening em as long you have enough keys

stone hatch
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you can only get keys once per week right? what day marks rotation?

halcyon pebble
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for the key boxes i think is every tuesday

stone hatch
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ah ok

empty arch
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alright bois me and my clan are looking to get into speedruns, starting with DH

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now where the fuck do I start

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I've found guides that literally just list the name of the build, the spec, and their position with nothing else

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which is unfortunate because I have no clue what the fuck any of these builds are

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and considering I saw a dude wearing tier 5 acosta's TP with sacrifice and a ravenous I'm not keen to assume what any of these builds mean

rigid onyx
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Thats alot of damage

viscid fossil
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BATHWATER DAMAGE

fluid pier
# empty arch now where the fuck do I start
  1. make sure you've learnt the mechanics and spawns of the raid
  2. pick a strat that you wish to replicate
  3. get the required builds
  4. try to understand and imitate the guide/strat your team chose to replicate
  5. practice and tweak things till your team is satisfied with the results
empty arch
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the DH you had posted on valentine's day specifically

fluid pier
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waow astro you do a lot of damage

rigid onyx
# empty arch funnily enough it was your vid I had found

That video posted was just showcasing the run, I am going into detailed breakdowns of each boss very soon, a video on how to one shot buddy and lucy will be coming out soon. What would you like to see next? How to one shot razorback as a guide? Just lmk what you dont understand and Ill see if I can do a breakdown on it!

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I have a server I can invite you to that answers all sorts of questions on how to speedrun, I can DM you the link if you would like! Has a ton of resources in it, just lmk!

empty arch
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well I grabbed screens of all of your builds from the vid as a starting point and we can figure out bits of the rest, issue I'm having is that obviously we don't have your teammates' perspectives and therefore their setups. I found a google doc on the server you had linked but it works off the assumption that I know what any of these builds are and just has the build names placed in their spots

rigid onyx
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Got it, I believe various of my teammates posted their own perspectives as well! Check in the VroomVroom videos channel to find em!

empty arch
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and like I said after seeing tier 5 TP acosta's with a sacrifice I don't intend to assume anything about a build from its name alone

rigid onyx
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All good as I said check out the other POVs in the discord and Ill continue working on videos going into depth on how we do it!

empty arch
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sweet, we'll definitely be tuning in

rigid onyx
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❤️

empty arch
fluid pier
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^^ not for DH unless @rigid onyx here changes his mind and does it in the end 🤔

empty arch
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I mean I know the raid but looking at how the speeds are done it's just completely different strats and builds used to accomplish the same thing so my head's kinda spinning trying to parse it all

rigid onyx
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Ill be posting the Buddy Lucy guide in less than an hour and that will give you a good idea on how the breakdowns will be structured

empty arch
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yeah I'd love to see some kind of overview of what each position should be running and doing

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since it seems obvious that div2 speeds are well beyond "just do it normally but don't fuck up"

rigid onyx
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Haha yeah id say thats an accurate synopsis

vale basin
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Looking for a group that I can go threw the raid with

valid marlin
rigid onyx
empty arch
leaden sparrow
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How optimized would a build have to be to be able to run the raid

tender hollow
odd star
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i mean that would be perfect but like it doesnt have to

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40 chc and 140chd would work fine aswell

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you just need somewhere close to that

supple tinsel
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Does anyone know, why you are not able to unlock the IH 8 man clan completion in one session. It will not unlock the icon showing your clan has completed the IH with 8 clan members. Thanks

cunning night
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It’s been bugged since release. No one has it. Last time they acknowledged it was a couple months ago.

supple tinsel
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thanks for the information. I guess we wait until Div 2 fixes the issue.

tawdry widget
icy hull
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@junior herald Wrong channel, please use the LFG raid one.

junior herald
icy hull
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also English only.

late river
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raid loot hasn't reset yet, right?

late river
signal basin
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Not yet. Tuesday is reset day. @late river

late river
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I thought so.

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I guess people are just doing flawless for fun

gusty wharf
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the men of manual malfunction, which is me and my two friends, are close before trying raids. is there something you wish you would have known before starting raids?

late river
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Knowing that Discovery wasn't the real raid.

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I wish I knew beforehand..

tawdry widget
waxen phoenix
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Can someone explain to me what a raid is on here lol

civic dagger
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group coordination activity with 8 people involving puzzle mechanics but is often just a dps race

frigid wasp
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is there another way than iron horse to get the bulwark and future chest pieces?

lilac saddle
halcyon pebble
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short answer is no

trail oriole
#

What's the minimum ensnare resist I need to not get foamed in foam alley?

drowsy ivy
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50? 75?

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90% is the haz-pro when you stop experiencing fires , sauna and nipple shockers from the iron horse reactor

trail oriole
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Seems like it's 93% for foam

sick spindle
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I guess we aren't restarting the servers this week?

late river
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dusky seal
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newbie question:
how long does a raid take?

whole spoke
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Depends on the group. And which raid as well.

dusky seal
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thank you

exotic umbra
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raid keys only drops after weekly reset right? you can't rush into different raids to stack up on keys?

halcyon pebble
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key boxes is weekly

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bosses drops key everytime

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last boss*

exotic umbra
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I see there might be a point in running multiple raids in a week to stack up on keys then

halcyon pebble
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yep

exotic umbra
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just to be sure the only criteria to open the end raid crate is via keys. you don't have to kill all of the bosses. is that right

halcyon pebble
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you have to be there to kill the last boss

tawdry widget
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you need to kill the last boss for the box to "unlock", plus have 5 keys

exotic umbra
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ok so just last boss

halcyon pebble
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yep

empty arch
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ok so I was running GL on razorback because I swear I've seen it popping the grates off as well as hitting the switch inside with it, but I was only able to do the latter. Did I do something wrong or was I mistaken in seeing people just doubletap the grate with a GL to get it off and hit the switch right after?

tawdry widget
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GL?

empty arch
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grenade launcher

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on demo spec

tawdry widget
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it works after it's open

empty arch
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I get that, but I've seen speedrun vids where I believe the GL is popping the grate off as well

tawdry widget
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it's actually better than throwing a concussion grenade, since the detonation is "instant"

empty arch
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they just doubletap the grate with the GL and by the looks of it it pops the grate off and hits the switch

tawdry widget
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what you're seeing is probably the crossbow explosion and the instant grenade launcher explosion after it

zinc bluff
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yup ^

drowsy ivy
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umm...so, there's only 4 bosses out of all 10 that has a "get out of my face" stomp attack right ? Weasel and co's emp+blind, William's blind, Fieser's fireball and Molly's taser ?

tawdry widget
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Boomer's swipe too, but that's mostly an aggro thing

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Morozova's stomp/shock only happens if there's more than one player close to her

fierce jungle
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gray also stomps and blinds you if you're close

icy hull
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@rose sundial dont spam a question in all channels. answered in the other channel.

rose sundial
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It wasnt answered at all. The best answer I got was "idk"

icy hull
rose sundial
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Yes, only up until you answered it

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So I tried different channels, hence it went a few places. But thanks for the answer.

icy hull
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The point still stands. Please don’t spam channels with same question.

vernal frigate
#

how much burn resistance do u need to survive in captain feiser room

tawdry widget
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91%

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it's not to survive

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it's to be able to interact with the cannon

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burn resistance makes you resist the burn status effect (animation) / burn ticks from that status effect (animation), it doesn't make you immune to the fire damage or the fire stacks from the room

ornate pewter
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Question: If i do DH again do i get another chance for eagle bearer?

tawdry widget
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as long as you have 5 keys / you can open the chest, the chance to get it is the same

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if you keep on doing DH through the week, you'll get 1 key every time you kill Razorback

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so if you do it 5 times, no matter the day, you'll be able to open the box and have a chance a the eagle bearer dropping

ornate pewter
#

And what about the chest keys? will drop too?

tawdry widget
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The differences for the first raid you do after reset are:

  1. The boxes that drop keys, drop keys
  2. Chance at eagle bearer drop from a boss (it's a very low chance, I've seen it happen and have gotten a few like that)
  3. Negotiator, Aces, Tip of the Spear, blueprint drops when killing the bosses
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no

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you can only get keys from the boxes on your first raid after the reset

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after that, the only guaranteed key is when you kill Razorback

ornate pewter
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Oh ok, i suppose i'll try again next week then

tawdry widget
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he always drops 1

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doing it more times through the week can have two advantages, though:

  1. if anyone else in the raid is doing it for the first time that week and already have the Eagle, they can drop it if they get it
  2. more experience means better understanding of how everything works
    (apologies if you've done it loads of times now, I deduced you didn't from your question)
toxic needle
#

looking to get in on dark hours raid trying to get eagle

vapid briar
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Is the Future/Foundry gear in IH tied to the weekly reset or can it drop even though the raid has been cleared this week already?

signal basin
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Yeah. The reset gives a higher chance for those gear sets to drop. Once cleared for the week, not so much.

tawdry widget
novel thistle
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is it me or do we have waaaaaaaay to many people runnin moms cookingdress build/ most useless build in the raid ( DH as well as IH),, 4 blue 1 skill and 1 red build.. wtf,, if u want to run the raid ,, pls ppl.. at least have a decent dps build.in DH, and dps/role build in IH . and no bull and LISTEN TO RAID-LEAD,, common knowledge not?

tawdry widget
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Youtube and "ThE BeSt SolO LeGeNDarY BUilD tHaT MeLtS" type of videos that end up being a 6x blue with 6x protection from elites mods, kind of explains that.

long niche
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Moms... cooking.. dress.. build?... what?

tender hollow
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Moms Cooking Dress build is better

gaunt ice
#

PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT: @mild widget is a ninja looter wasnt willing to rock paper scissors for Ravenous instead just stole it

lavish kraken
#

Whats a suggested CHC/CHD for raiding?

sterile tree
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50/150 minimun

barren patio
#

how do you one shot the IH boss 4 chunga??

viscid fossil
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jesus bullets

fluid pier
barren patio
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tried it.. that just breaks his helmet

viscid fossil
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you have someone else to kill

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your primary role is to break the helmet

fluid pier
barren patio
hybrid vector
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Whats the 2 sets that drop in Dark hours? Aces and something

atomic nova
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Negotiators

hybrid vector
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ah thanks

atomic nova
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Chest and backpack than blueprints

hybrid vector
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Division 2 Wiki seems like 50% empty

halcyon pebble
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you can farm the pieces in open world now dont have to run the raid

hybrid vector
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I think you have to get the piece once in the raid before Chest and backpack drop in open world

halcyon pebble
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ah i didnt realise that, got those pieces awhile back

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need someone to confirm that

tawdry widget
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Aces and Eights, Negotiators Dilemma and Tip of the Spear were Dark Hours raid exclusive, on release, all the pieces are now in open world, regardless if you've ever been in the raid or not

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What's still exclusive for Dark Hours are the blueprints for those sets and the Eagle Bearer

halcyon pebble
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there you go

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thanks

tawdry widget
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Doing the raid will also give you materials so you can craft them, after you get the blueprints, those can be considered "exclusive" too

atomic nova
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Oh right they just gave the loot from DH out

tawdry widget
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Yep

fervent heron
#

Is here for lfg for IH raid?

tawdry widget
grizzled light
#

is there an easier way now to defeat boomer?

vagrant wing
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easier than?

fervent heron
#

maybe I'm blind but I cannot find any #lfg-raid-pc

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is a "only xb1" discord server?

fluid pier
fervent heron
#

bump... where I can change it plaese 😉

vagrant wing
fervent heron
#

Found... thanks 🙂

waxen dragon
#

is Eagle Bearer only tied to the reset? or can it drop from other bosses through DH

halcyon pebble
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the bosses has a very low chance of dropping it

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but its one chance per boss per week (unless it got changed and idk)

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but the chest at the end you can keep opening it for EB if you have enough keys

upbeat mesa
fickle dew
#

How hard is iron horse? I'm interested in starting to raid. I've done a fair amount of legendary content. Is the difficulty in the raid more so mechanical as opposed to just bullet sponge enemies?

tender hollow
upbeat mesa
# fickle dew How hard is iron horse? I'm interested in starting to raid. I've done a fair amo...

Enemies in Raid have 2 player Heroic HP. Raid itself is doable if you have an good meta dps(Rolfe, AR) and the ability to listen to calls. There usually is a raid leader and you want to Listen to him.
Obviously if you watched a video/ quick rundown how it works or if you played the discovery version it becomes much easier.

Coms are the most important thing, if ppl don't listen and aren't willing to learn they not gonna succeed. Also raids are very mechanical heavy, no comparison to other content in this game. Thats why its more about knowhow and teamplay isntead of dps. Dps is still obviously needed.

Also whenever you are new to raid, say that at the beginning. That isnt a problem but ppl have to know where to put you.

trail oriole
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Does Morozova have a specific amount of time in between attempting to launch her RPG at the team?

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Also, what's the hp threshold for her mortar launch?

tawdry widget
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I've never timed the time between RPG attempts, but you can easily check it in youtube videos of the fight.

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HP threshold for her to go back in / launch mortars / wipe mechanic if you're not in the tunnel
2nd phase — removing 3 bars of armour
3rd phase — removing 3 more bars of armour
4th phase — removing 4 last bars of armour

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@trail oriole ^^^

river gale
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Does anyone know if you can still get Ironworks Base Materials if you run IH a second time?

vagrant wing
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nope. Only on the first clear

river gale
vagrant wing
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it is yeah. I can't remember if they're shared or not tho

upbeat mesa
vagrant wing
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nah discovery gives you alloys. Or is it the other way around?

toxic brook
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Can anyone carry 2 fresh level 40s later through raid

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Please

cinder niche
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Wanna ask: Is it that the box at the end of the raid can be looted only once by only 1 player in the raid? Or is it all the players in the raid session can loot it once?

vagrant wing
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all players can loot it as long as they have 5 keys (and as long as they played on 'normal' mode)

cinder niche
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I see...
Thanks for the reply.
BTW, what do you mean by 'normal' mode? Is there another mode?

vagrant wing
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np. 'discovery'. A matchmaking dialed down version of the raid meant for new players or for learning porpuses

cinder niche
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Got it.
Thanks again yo

mint anchor
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Oh, I'm glad I never have to do these agai- ..... BLUEPRINT PROJECTS. AHHHHH.

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Now I have to go back into Iron Horse a million more times.

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Ubisoft....

vagrant wing
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that's the nature of a looter shooter 🤷‍♂️

split dust
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How much damage you need to do with the regulus to one shot the shield guys in IH raid's first boss ?

slender bay
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Looking for a group for normal dark hours raid for eagle bearer

fresh helm
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Hello - New to gaming , new to Division 2, but learning- Is there any advice for a newbie to gain raid experience without people dumping all over you for not know exactly what you are doing?

upbeat mesa
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watch youtube

fresh helm
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I have been- I am just looking to actually play- Thank you for responding

vapid briar
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Running the raids in Discovery (matchmaking) mode is a good way to get to know the levels, bosses and basic mechanics. In LFG, most groups are usually pretty chill as long as you're upfront about being new to the raid, so that the group leader can assign you some easier roles.

fresh helm
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That's awesome- Thank you

reef mesa
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Anyone doing dark hours

azure ruin
jolly seal
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Can anyone run dark hours tomorrow at 10pm Est. We already have 3, jus need experienced fill in’s

valid marlin
jolly seal
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Ik I did

valid marlin
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If you know why double post it instead of putting it in the right channel from the start? 🤔

jolly seal
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I corrected it

valid marlin
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"Calm down" 🤪 I am calm, but thanks for the advice. 🙃

jolly seal
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Sí

azure fossil
# fresh helm Hello - New to gaming , new to Division 2, but learning- Is there any advice for...

Just use LFG channel, or join a clan that raids. Be up front and say you don't know how to do the raids, watch videos if you prefer not to do a blind run. If you are honest to people and say you are new, they won't put you in critical roles (there are very few anyway).

All you're going to do during the raid is dps adds for the most part. Killing adds in the raids is the most important role, if being completely serious. Aside from "Standing in a circle", or pressing a button sometimes.

open basin
fresh helm
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Wow, thank you so much!

gusty wharf
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is there something like a raidschoolbus?

tawdry widget
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That would be Youtube, Discovery or someone willing to drive that bus either in a Clan or here in LFG

verbal mist
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Personally I don’t like telling new raiders to do discovery . First thing you need to focus on is getting a decent build . You don’t need every line god rolled . Then simply tell a raid group your new and want to learn . The full meta jacket build that’s pinned in build advice is perfect for a loadout I see new raiders asking “looking for a carry I need eb “ that’s not someone wanting to learn raids , instead that’s someone wanting a raid exclusive weapon . Just make sure to watch vids , look at the pinned spreadsheet .

fresh helm
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Thank you all. I really appreciate the help.

fair crow
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what is the best single build for raids. never done the raids but need the Eagle Bearer to complete a built. any advise wouod be appreciated.

jolly seal
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On discovery or actual raid? It varies from each boss, boomer you want DPS output so you can kill him as fast as possible. For Dizzy and Richohet, DPS is essential, jus dodge their grenades and keep distributing damage. For Lucy and Buddy, skill damage works here. Everyone can run pulse and vigilance for the team buffs. And Razorback is a team effort. You want a skill build probably for the drones, DPS for the ads, and for destroying the components. Hope this helps

fair crow
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so i have to make more then one build. ok ty

jolly seal
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Not necessarily, jus up to your team. Depends on who takes on what role. For Boomer, I jus run max dmg, while my friend runs armor while he’s on the turret. Just depends on who takes on what, that’s jus an example

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If it’s your first time, let someone run skill so they can handle Razorback drones. If your job is to take on Ads which is vital for the team, then just run DPs with armor

vagrant wing
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For Lucy and Buddy, skill damage
can you explain to me how exactly? (serious question)

jolly seal
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Yeah. There’s a talent on chest pieces that gives amplified damage to pulsed enemies. If everyone runs that and pulse, it will be 8x15 amplified damage to Buddy and Lucy

vagrant wing
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i still don't understand what is that has to do with skill dmg?

jolly seal
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There’s a time period where they don’t agro or move, and you can usually melt them to shreds if done properly

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Pulse is a Skill lol. If you run a skill build on top of the chest talent, it gives amplified damage more so then initially

vagrant wing
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what? no it doesn't

balmy sail
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Anyone raid carrying?

jolly seal
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Bruh

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The talent “spotter” gives 15% bonus damage and skill damage to pulsed enemies. It can be stacked. Now, multiply that damage by 8 because there’s 8 people in a group. That’s the buff your getting

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If everyone runs it

vagrant wing
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just so i understand you properly, you saying that a skill build is better than a red DPS build for B&L with the spotter talent?

jolly seal
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It’s also multiplicative to base skill damage that you already have if you run a skill build

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Yes, with spotter and a full team running skill dmg, you can drop B&L efficiently

vagrant wing
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i really disagree. But to each their own i guess

jolly seal
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But it stacks with your team. That’s why it’s so good. So even if only 2 people spotter, it’s 30% amplified damage

fierce jungle
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Spotter only applies to each person specifically

jolly seal
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?

fierce jungle
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Not to teammates

jolly seal
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I thought it was a stackable buff

fierce jungle
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No

vagrant wing
jolly seal
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Nvm

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I thought it was stackable

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Jus run glass canon or something if u want DPS

vagrant wing
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that's more like it. Imho (and not just me i think) a red DPS build is more suitable for DH in general. No need for a skill build at all (aside for speedrunning but that's another story)

jolly seal
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For drones, skill build is nice

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Yeah In PVE, I headshot for 1.1 mill with my p416 😅. Glass canon, coyotes mask and vigilance buffs

vagrant wing
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Yeah. But that's basically the only place in DH where it's highly needed

tender hollow
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can someone help im new and want to do a raid on ps?

normal mirage
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buy me a playstation 4 and I'll help you out

vagrant wing
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should have asked for 5

normal mirage
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I did not think this through

civic dagger
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Does fiezer break glass faster in control room when there's no tank in the room?

atomic nova
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Yes

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If there’s a tank in there it won’t break

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When he leaves it starts breaking

echo nexus
# vagrant wing just so i understand you properly, you saying that a skill build is better than ...

You can get a Turret's damage as high as 300k consistently if you use Kinetic Momentum, regular In-Sync, and Force Multiplier, considering their super high fire rate combined with essentially aimbot, the sheer tankiness, and the fact that you don't even have to look to deal tons of damage

With this in mind, you don't even need Spotter to get a 350k-400k dmg Drone/Turret build going if you have the right setup.

Despite this, I don't belive skill builds like that are viable mainly due to the fact that you cannot get a turret to stop firing at its target unless you pick it up, and that can cause the overcharge state on B&L

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Now I was just in a raid with some guys, and they had one guy running a Scorpio status effect/buffer build, and we simply melted through Boomer and Weasel fights

echo nexus
# fair crow what is the best single build for raids. never done the raids but need the Eagle...

Sorry for the late reply. You don't absolutely need the Eagle Bearer to have a good dps build. At least that's what I'm saying since I don't even have it myself lol

Current build I'm using:
3 piece Providence
1 Piece Groupo
1 Piece Fenris
Fox's Prayer

Talents: Unbreakable + Vigilance

Military AKM w/ Ranger

Classic M1A w/ Boomerang
-I personally prefer Boomerang over Baker's Dozen as it rewards consistent hits with more damage and about the same mag size

With my build in the current state, it's at 175% crit damage with my M1A at 197% crit damage. I'm able to get up to 2.1 mil damage in a single Boomerang crit

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If I had everything maxed out, I'd probably be sitting up to 185% crit damage on the AK alone, but the AR and talent doesn't matter all too much, though I like the AK or even the Honey Badger for closer range

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Most craftable AR's will serve you well, though notably the craftable FAMAS, Police M4, AK's, and TAR will work, just look for DMG to Target Out of Cover and any of these talents: Ranger, Optimist, Strained, or Measured

rigid onyx
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Rifle build or bust

odd star
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whats the difference between stagger tank and key tank in IH loadout wise?

cunning night
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Do people still use two tanks for final boss? We stopped doing that during the first week.

vagrant wing
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it's pretty common on PC LFG's. To your question @odd star ideally stagger tank should be immune to disrupt and shock however if you're not speedrunning both of them can be pretty much the same honestly

cunning night
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Well, the more you know. Usually the healer just takes over when tank is busy.

verbal mist
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We normally use two tanks

cunning night
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I don’t do too many LFG

verbal mist
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Speaking of lfg . Did a dh yesterday that had me cringing 😬

vagrant wing
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🤷‍♂️
ppl do want they find easier. I don't LFG much this days, but from my personal exp most LFG teams prefer 2 tanks

odd star
cunning night
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I guess it is easier, DPS isn’t a huge issue on 4th

fierce jungle
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stagger tank can have tardigrade and adrenaline rush bp talent, while the key tank can have pointman chest and protector bp talent

vagrant wing
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oh yeah. forgot about the chest talents. thx Dash

fierce jungle
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np

verbal mist
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I’ve ran galvanize on key tank before . Kinda cool .

vagrant wing
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if you're trying to door camp her that's not a good idea i'd say

verbal mist
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Key tank

vagrant wing
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oh oops 🙂

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misread

verbal mist
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All good . The little armor it gives on Scorpio kinda fun with lfg groups

empty arch
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"how to do it" more than "how it works", should be good for getting someone through it

west spruce
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For Boomer fight, the number of laptops required to stop the defense mechanism from coming back up is tied to the amount of armor left on Boomer, not the duration of the fight.

vagrant wing
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Don't bother trying to salvage it if this happens, just wipe
why not?

empty arch
empty arch
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it's a case of being more trouble than it's worth

odd star
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nah i would say its easily more worth to salvage than reset unless half of your team dies

austere furnace
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can we get the foundary bulwark pieces on discovery?

odd star
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no

austere furnace
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thx

hollow plank
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Hey I'm looking to do my first raid to get the eagle bearer, idk anything about raids tho do I need a clan and mic?

empty arch
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clan is handy but not required, a mic basically is required

empty arch
hollow plank
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Thanks!

empty arch
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have a good DPS build, it'll give you a spot you can run adequately in any encounter in either raid

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Coyote's/WH mask, 3 providence, 1 Grupo Sombra, Fox's Prayer knees
A good AR (m4, famas if you can aim with it, AK, etc) and good rifle (any flavor of m1a, mk17, sig 716, etc)
Gunner spec with reviver hive and crusader shield

hollow plank
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I just got back to the game like yesterday after a year and a half hiatus, not sure if my current is good enough but I'll see

empty arch
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the important part is to get your crit chance to 45%ish if you're running coyote's and 55-60%ish if you're not, and a crit damage above 130 or so

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if you can manage that and have a good AR and rifle you're basically set build wise

hollow plank
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Awesome thanks for the tip!

jolly seal
empty arch
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I'm listing the bare minimum here

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given that you're going to have 7 other motherfuckers in the room one person lagging behind a bit in damage output isn't gonna massively hurt

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what they do absolutely need is enough damage to control their ads effectively

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it's not an end goal for how much damage a good raid build should have, it's the floor a raid build needs to do their job

jolly seal
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You’re right. I was running Dark Hours last night and we were all using crit builds. If 3 people are lacking, you can’t do it. Nonetheless pulse builds and drone builds for Razorback. If you can’t get 150% CHD, good luck getting a god rolled jammer build

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Yes. If you can’t cover guys on Gen with enough DPS, then you can’t do the raid. I’ve learnt that from 10 different scenarios

empty arch
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and that's my point

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what I listed is the barrier to entry, you're talking about what's needed to carry your weight on boss damage

jolly seal
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Yes. For Lucy and Buddy, who regens, 130 is not enough. That boss is jus straight DPS. If 8 people are burning them but there’s not enough output, don’t even try. In my opinion 130% is hindering your team. Don’t do the raid if you struggle with getting average pieces, it’s the hardest event in the game for a reason

empty arch
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I think that's unnecessarily gatekeeping

jolly seal
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No, you should have a solid build that your team doesn’t need to worry about. Everyone is supposed to contribute, wether that’s DPS, computers, pulse, Gens, ads, etc. Don’t hinder your team jus cause you want Eagle Bearer prematurely.

empty arch
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yes, it should be known that those numbers are the bare minimum, but I've used those numbers as baselines for other newbies and they've worked out just fine. Just slot them in where they can deal with their ads and where their boss damage isn't as critical

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I also wrote in my guide that I linked him strats that can mitigate subpar DPS for weasel and B&L

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7/1 and center platform lock specifically

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so really that way the only DPS check is boomer

fluid pier
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You don’t really need that much damage to clear dark hours. Better builds on all 8 members of the team just equates to a faster + smoother run.

empty arch
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and how I and my clan teach and assign spots for boomer is to get the guys with firepower on the outside so they can do the damage whereas the newbies are on laptops clearing ads

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there are numbers you gotta reach to be able to perform, but you're trying to raise that bar to be able to excel before you even deem someone ready

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I can attest firsthand one guy having subpar DPS isn't going to ruin a DH

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because I was that guy in my first run

odd star
empty arch
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anyone who wants to not get turned into a puddle

vagrant wing
odd star
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never seen it in my life

fluid pier
odd star
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you know that makes sense

empty arch
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I'd call it a temporary reprieve from getting shredded

odd star
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i do still prefer even a 1st tier turret for distraction

fluid pier
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I do it all the time no issues on my end 🤔

empty arch
fluid pier
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Nahh just kill them before they break your shield

vagrant wing
empty arch
odd star
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yeah true just from my experience i havent seen anyone with a shield

empty arch
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it's the crusader shield, the one you can use actual weapons with

vagrant wing
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🤷‍♂️

odd star
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and i remember trying to run shield on a dps build in heroic and got absolutely clapped

vagrant wing
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shield won't make you invincible. You still have to play carefully

fluid pier
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Kill them too 😂 Bait them into melee attacks and you’ll have another 2-3 seconds before they even begin to shoot. Or shoot on right shoulder behind walls/obstacles with shield up. Enables you to take a lot less damage.

empty arch
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I'm aware

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doesn't make the shield any less paper thin under fire tho

manic stone
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Yeah a good example of a place I love the crusader shield is the two sections in IH between the 2nd and 3rd boss. The first is where you get the key, the shotgunners on the right will shoot you through the fence before the gate opens and the shield gives me the moment I need to clear my part of the spawn. Then right after that, with the snipers in the control room, I’m sprinting on one side, climbing the ladder then clearing everything on my side with no cover and in different directions.. again it’s just the time I need to kill what I need to.

austere furnace
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question for those who done the regulus project. do i need to wait till reset to get parts to drop if i already beat the raid this week?

tawdry widget
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yes

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they only drop on your first run of the week

austere furnace
tawdry widget
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yet, they drop every week as long as you don't have the regulus on your char / stash

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aka if you move it to another character and do your first run, then you'll be able to craft another one

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every week

trail oriole
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So for staggering Morozova, would Belstone bp with protector be better than a second Gila piece due to the armor regen? I know it's a rather small amount but I don't see how the hp bonus is useful at Moro.

azure ruin
tender hollow
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Next IH run going to try skill build with assault turret in Boss 2 IH B section and wedge myself in the corner next to the wifi box with the full bulwark shield up.

left ocean
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First timer here. Trying to do my first iron horse raid. Looking a group to show me the ropes. Thanks.

timber jasper
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Looking for DH raid
My psn: TheeLokiiiTv

jolly seal
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Go to LFG @left ocean and @timber jasper

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This is questions about the raid. Not the looking for group

exotic umbra
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does any of the raid exclusive drop in exotic crate once you unlocked them?

halcyon pebble
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nope

tawdry widget
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Crate only drops Eagle Bearer for Dark Hours, Ravenous for Iron Horse. You can craft one Regulus every week, after you've completed the project/have the blue print. As long as you don't have the Regulus on the character/stash that you're running your first raid of the week.

tight saddle
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Hello together,
I am new to this raiding stuff in the division 2.
I would like to do some raids and use the lfg channel because but I am not familiar with all of the abbreviations

last call for example was "lf3m IH fresh RV15"
I understand that three people are wanted for iron horse raid but what means "fresh" and "RV15" or in general 'RV[0-9]{1,2}'
Do I have to meet some requirements to be able to join some raids?

odd star
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fresh = new raid from the start, rv's are raid voice channels

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litteraly the only requirement for new raid players is to have a good dps build and have a mic

tight saddle
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ah ok
Thanks for the info

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What about the difficulty? Will that be discussed if a group is full or how do I know if I should be able to do anything instead of being dead on the ground because of to high difficulty?
Sorry if that is a stupid question. My map is currently heroic with 2 directives enabled and my gear is enough for this (In my oppinion of course)

odd star
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Well first I'd like to see what build you got

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And it's a simple thing, stay in cover as much as possible and you should be fine, on the more difficult encounters you will have a healer so protect him and he will take care of you

tight saddle
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I use a weapon based build with the backfire

odd star
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no

signal basin
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Not for a raid man

odd star
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backfire will delete you itself, if you got immune build then your dps wont be enough

vagrant wing
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?
the backfire can push out a respectful amount of dmg. I wouldn't recommend it tho - not because of the dmg but because of the range. Generally speaking most fights on both raid tends to be mid-ranges rather than short-ranges

odd star
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At full stacks yes, backfire claps cheeks but you won't have full stacks all the time and as you said it doesn't work that well when your fights are at mid range

tight saddle
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so a full dps build with an AR is better? in solo I just die to often with my full dps build

odd star
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Yes with 50% crit chance and 150% crit damage and don't forget you won't be alone you will have 7 other asses with you

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There's many things that can keep you alive in raids, for example unbreakable is a great talent if you're dying, turret for distraction or even a shield when you're in trouble

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But always, always use reviver hive

tight saddle
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yes i use the shield and reviver on both builds

odd star
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Then as useless as this sounds I can only recommend getting better at surviving

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And that comes from experience

tight saddle
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ok thanks for the tips
I will try to join a group the next evenings and will use my full dps build. And then I will see how good I am managing my first raid in this game 🙂

tawdry widget
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It's easier than you might think now, as it's a team effort. Looking at youtube videos to get a grasp of what's going on, on each boss, also helps. If for some reason it doesn't work with the team you try for the first time, it's all part of the game too. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

warm ibex
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As said above, the raids arent that difficult but they can get impossible to clear, higly depends on the team. Dont forget to use DPS talents on your gear(maybe not glascannon for the first 20 runs) but focus, obliterate even spotter work well. For the backpack you want vigilance

tight saddle
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Yes, I use obliterate and currently clutch (I think I rolled it so still changeable) at backpack but with a medic it become useless. As I said I die a bit too often at this build when playing solo

tawdry widget
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Clutch doesn't increase your weapon damage in anyway, so it's better to have Vigilance that does (and doesn't rely on an "on kill" mechanic or swapping weapon, it's a set and forget for the most part). Regarding dying too often, everyone dies, but you can also ask what are the spawn points for each position you're placed in. Except for IH boss 3, which can have multiple NPCs, appearing from a few different spots, NPCs are easier to control that way.

versed hornet
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As someone who’s never raided before, are tanks / healers necessary? I’ve heard something about just going all 8 dps

signal basin
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DH could be done strictly DPS, however a healer is beneficial. The drone typically uses a restorer hive for Razorback as well. For IH, you need a healer throughout, absolutely. Tanks are useful on the final boss as well

mint anchor
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At last, I have a medic build. What do I do as medic in Iron Horse? Just run around and heal people? Or do I have to go in and out of Fieser's room and tickle Morozova and stuff like that?

red whale
mint anchor
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Oh my

gusty willow
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Most of the time just heal. On 1st and 3rd boss overcharge is very much welcome and opportunistic to support the team and give them more damage. 2nd boss you need to survive and do the control room tasks. 4th just heal

amber blaze
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Boss 1 - Overcharge spam heals if you can
Boss 2- Control Room, keep yourself alive
Boss 3- Heal team mates from platform and protect them when the boss comes out during each phase. Overcharge when killing boss and heal the turret.
Boss 4- Heal hive on one side and chem heal teammates on the other.

mint anchor
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Overcharge. So how does one balance between Skill Haste and Skill Heal? Currently, my reviver hive recharges at 51 seconds.

signal basin
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BTSU gloves work wonders on healer builds

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Spec into skill repair as much as you can, skill haste mods

mint anchor
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Thank you. If you ever play with me, this shall benefit you too.

signal basin
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I’m on Xbox, but that’s how I run my healer so yeah it works. The future initiative set with the chest piece is the best.

severe jungle
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@mint anchor if you're raiding you only need 310k healing on your hive. If you're using safeguard, that will 1 shot heal dps's. Everything else should be cool down for more shots out of the chem launcher.

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But thats if you want an "optimized" heal build

subtle totem
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is it advisible to use a sniper build in raid i already have a build ready but just curious because i understand from my clan it is really hard to do a Headshot kill on the mobs in the raid

azure ruin
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Safeguard gives you skill repair...not repair skills. both are different things. You will instantly see huge difference healing your teammates skills eg., shield which will use less charges of your hive.. Also one thing i would like to mention is 20% repair skills attribute on gear = 5% skill repair when you use an artificer. so lets say you're running 6 blues tank build with artificer, and you have repair skills as an attribute on each gear, your artificer will do much better job of repairing your shield despite having only 1 Skill tier

azure ruin
mint anchor
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I’ve noticed that no medics use revivers in raids. I was using 51 seconds on my reviver as a description of measurement.

azure ruin
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prior hardwire nerf, one of my friend used to run hardwire build with reviver in legendaries but medics will always use restorer hive for healing

subtle totem
west spruce
azure ruin
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Thanks for info. I haven’t tested reformation buff so not aware of whether its additive or multiplicative

mint anchor
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Future initiative and btsu

muted bridge
empty arch
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looks fine to me

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memento isn't the best idea tho

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running around to corpses to pick up trophies is gonna pull you outta position

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and if you're not doing that why wear it

empty arch
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also liberty on technician

tender hollow
empty arch
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you don't need to try and dps and shield tank at once

muted bridge
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i see

empty arch
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because doing that you'll be worse at both

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just run pure DPS, the numbers are fine already you just gotta narrow down your focus

muted bridge
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just want abit of armor for survivability

empty arch
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just run unbreakable and don't get shot

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hybrid setups just spread your stats too thin in most cases

muted bridge
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haha

muted bridge
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just trying to see if it can be a bare minimum to enjoy d2 content, may want to pass this account to my sibling to try out.

muted bridge
empty arch
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I'd suggest not bothering with liberty

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and grupo sombra

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if you want actual damage output just find a good assault rifle and stick it on to feed off the already good crit stats you have

muted bridge
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i'm trying 3 chc mods on AR, by taking GS, i will need to change 1 chc AR mod to chd, feels like a waste but its ok

tender hollow
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oh run 6 red cores. You should post the screenshot of your gear.
running 1 or 2 blue cores wont really help, you will die in 2 direct shots by Ads anyway

muted bridge
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it just 3 providence 1 fenris 1 fox 1 mento (mento is temporary until I find a better gear)

empty arch
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grupo sombra backpack

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with vigilance

muted bridge
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and you know, the typical chd/chc mods and attributes

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still grinding for grupo backpack with vigilance

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i have a providence backpack with vigilance, but i need to find a good grupo anyways

empty arch
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either one will be fine

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the bog standard dps loadout is 3 provi, 1 grupo, 1 fox's, and something like 1 WH, ceska, fenris, contractor's, or coyote's

marble mesa
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I'd say prov backpack with vigilance > grupo with vigilance especially if it's the gift

empty arch
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gift is such a minor improvement

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and if you have the same brandsets it doesn't matter which piece is which

marble mesa
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Perfect vigilance does help quite a bit for dps imo

empty arch
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it shaves a second off the cooldown

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that's it

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nice to have, use it if you got a good one, but don't break your back farming for it when more readily available options are there

muted bridge
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i already broke my back trying to farm various providences

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so... should be fine, either ways should come in when i grind through the seasons content

tender hollow
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^ if you change to 6 reds, your build will be better than most.

muted bridge
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oh well, no shields then if 6 reds, not technician then

tender hollow
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quite a few people use crusader/striker shield + revive hive which you can use ARs, rilfes, shotguns etc with

muted bridge
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but thats not the raid build most people expect

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i'm quite fond of technician, but i can understand why you need to be shield-less

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mobility is the game

tender hollow
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You can run technician with spotter chest + linked laser pointer on your weapons (not all can use it). Its better dps than using Obliterate

muted bridge
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hmm

subtle totem
civic dagger
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only if you know what you're doing, and only for some sections

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I've only really seen people using it in the Morozova fight to speed up the chungus sections though

subtle totem
civic dagger
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haha yeah

exotic umbra
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if I want to shoot the blueberry bears for achievement in DH do I ask in the lfg-raid channel? there's 40 of them. and I wonder if they count in discovery

signal basin
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I got my commendation done in discovery

tender hollow
patent delta
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is 4 piece Eclipse Protocol with 1 piece Alps Summit and BTSU gloves viable for a full heal build in raids? or is it Future Initiative only?

fierce jungle
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I don’t think eclipse helps with heals in any way but if you don’t have future initiative, you could also use a full yellow healer build. 3 pieces alps summit, 2 pieces murakami and btsu gloves. All rolls are repair skills and skill haste

patent delta
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yeh honestly i watched a vid from some dude who had EP and didnt question it but yeh had a feeling it wasnt right. Ill build that and see how it goes in leg, thanks

fierce jungle
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Np

odd star
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youtube video builds are 90% of the time trash or outdated

patent delta
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yeh i noticed when reading this over the last few days! Do you have a full heal spec when raiding? or is it hybrid builds?

odd star
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full heals

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hybrid builds are not worth it in raids imo

patent delta
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cool, thank you

tawdry widget
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@patent delta 4x Future Initiative, with chest if you have it, 1x BTSU and 1x Alps backpack with Opportunistic/Safeguard depending on boss

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Future Initiative is preferred over the other options for the +25% weapon damage buff to everyone in the raid, when they're at full armour

rigid moss
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do both raids drop Future initiative?

tender veldt
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just Iron Horse

rigid moss
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ty ty

echo nexus
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My heal build uses:
4 piece FI (using bag for extra Lucio heals)
Alps chest w/ Emphatic Resolve, BTSU Gloves

M4 w/ Reformation
And lastly, Sweet Dreams

fierce jungle
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Skorpio

echo nexus
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Sweet Dreams insta-kill though

patent delta
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so ive been farming, i have the FI mask, holster, gloves and knees. I have a max roll alps chest with empathic resolve. I am using Acostas go bag as i cant use BTSU, cant find an FI bag anywhere. I have scorpio too

echo nexus
patent delta
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ah shit i thought just chest was exlusive. Is what i have good enough for IH or na?

echo nexus
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Oh yeah, definitely

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Well, shit no

patent delta
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BTSU is huge i guess

whole spoke
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I mean sweet dreams can be dropped for Skorpio

echo nexus
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BTSU is an essential part cus of the haste and overcharge to reset give cooldowns

whole spoke
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Since most of the time, you as the healer aren’t going to be alone trying to clear ads.

patent delta
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yeh so i can use BTSU but wont have the 4 set bonus for FI

whole spoke
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Skorpio lets you CC problematic ones temporarily for your dps to deal with

echo nexus
fierce jungle
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Also as a general IH healer build you want the FI chest instead of empathic because you will not always be healing everyone except in maybe boss 4

whole spoke
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I mean, personal preference I suppose? But Scorpio on mhwaler is better

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Healer~

echo nexus
patent delta
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problem is the 2 bits i need are from IH, so i guess do my first IH as maybe a CC or dps to get them first

echo nexus
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Honestly, I'd say wait until you get that one piece

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BTSU can be farmed for via Black Tusk bounties

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If that's what you need

patent delta
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i have BTSU, i just need FI gloves for the 4 set bonus

echo nexus
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Otherwise, just play dps until you can get the bag

patent delta
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ok ill go for that, thanks for the help guys

whole spoke
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How much does emphatic boost dps by again?

patent delta
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3-15% for 20s

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by skill teir so i guess skill teir 6 is the 15%

tawdry widget
whole spoke
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I prefer FI chest piece and alps backpack with opportunistic but personal preference again?

tawdry widget
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Everyone close together, a couple of oxidisers from Williams and everyone starts dying

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On the other hand, when it comes time to kill the boss, ideally you'll overcharge for pulse / foam, which then means that if all goes well he dies pretty quick without much need for the hive

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The more spread out everyone is, better

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Not only for the boss, but for adds too

echo nexus
tawdry widget
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Right. No, not using a tank on that fight.

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7 DPS 1 Healer

echo nexus
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Are you sure you're not thinking about the furnace fight?

tawdry widget
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Never did from the start, but again, to each their own

tender hollow
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6 dps, 1 healer, 1 dps with hazard?

tawdry widget
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Williams is 3rd boss

tawdry widget
echo nexus
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Yes, the one in the furnace, right?

tender hollow
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3rd boss

tawdry widget
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Both 2nd and 3rd can be considered a furnace

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One has molten iron flowing, the other has molten iron inside

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Future Initiative bag / Empathic Resolve chest is, IMHO, bad for both

echo nexus
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The one where you have to worry about pressure

tawdry widget
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Actually, bad for all IH

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Yep, that's 3rd

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Bottom line, whatever works for you / your team, but I'd stay away from that combination, it doesn't help during the fights

echo nexus
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It's what I've used and been able to keep my whole team alive with one tank, one heal, and everyone bunched up together for phase 1 and 2 of that fight, then everyone besides the tank goes up to the second floor to deal damage

tawdry widget
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Right, that's something I don't do either, everyone going up

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We kill him below, ideally, while he's still on the balcony, foamed

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That way everyone runs back when he dies, someone will be upstairs closer to him, the key drops at his feet, he inserts it on the "insert master key" thing

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As @tender hollow was saying, we use 1 hazard DPS that can reach the console pretty quick during the 3 color phases, to cancel the red one, 6 DPS, 1 healer

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The hazard DPS can help with DPS when he's on the balcony, making him die there

echo nexus
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The hazard dps is usually three tank, who also hazard

tawdry widget
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Other strategies work and that's fine, but back to the initial point, Future backpack / Empathic isn't optimal, IMHO