td2-raid-discussions

[remote idol]

They always drop from rocketeers

If they don't spawn on you it's probably because they spawned on the opposite side

[tender hollow]

Not the case - last night we had to wipe on Moroza twice because the rocketeers stopped spawning or were severely delayed.

[grim sun]

where would i find a group who run raids?

[remote idol]

Perhaps your team ain't clearing adds fast enough?

[tender hollow]

Not the case - we were on pace for about a 45 minute run - we got the cannon down on one run fine and then they never spawned again, 2nd time they spawned so delayed the cannon went off and the 3rd time worked as normal.

[ashen scaffold]

No rarely rockets can bug out and only one spawns at a time for some reason

[tender hollow]

Never had it happen like last night - apparently hasn't happened to anyone else - thought the update may have caused the problem

[ashen scaffold]

just wiping can fix it

[tender hollow]

We had to wipe twice

[ashen scaffold]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I dont raid often like before so

[remote idol]

I've never seen that happen

[tender hollow]

You're lucky

[tender hollow]

Same with us - we got our last core member his 100 clears prior to Tuesday's update and then had a new clan member who wanted to run, so it was our first run since the update

[tender hollow]

can someone help me with a raid mission on normal difficulty?

or to help me get a gun regulus?

[slate hawk]

This has been a known issue since raid came out. Happens from time to time not as often as before

[tender hollow]

Last night was different than the past - used to be an issue if you left rockets laying and then they would slow spawn. Last night, they stopped spawning completely one run.

[slate hawk]

Has nothing to how with rockets laying down. People have theories on what causes it but in the end there is no rhyme or reason to it. They sometimes stop spawning and nothing you can do about it

[tender hollow]

How to get project to get blueprint to regulus?

[tender hollow]

When you clear IH it generates 2 projects and when those are complete 2 more projects are created and then when those are completed the regulus pieces drop from each boss on the first IH run the following reset

[fickle sleet]

#lfg-raid-pc or look/ask in the community division Discord aswell as gcrock discord.

[rancid nimbus]

do you get ironworks base materials from the raid only once a week? for the project for the regulus?

[ashen scaffold]

Raid key box once a week

[rancid nimbus]

is that once weekly only?

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah you have to wait for reset

Pretty sure you can share those via separate alts

[fiery osprey]

Does anyone runs IH raids that accept noobs?

[remote idol]

Most raid groups will take you in as long as you state you're an FTC

[fiery osprey]

a what now?

[remote idol]

First time clear

[fiery osprey]

hmmm

[zenith forge]

hello. question about faraday strat on ih. did damage increase on 2nd phase? i didnt try to play as medic after last update but many ppl now dying very often.

[muted galleon]

for the raid healer ( both IH and DH ) what gear set is recommended? cus i can see EP and FI

[remote idol]

FI

EP isn't used for heals

[muted galleon]

whats EP use for?

[remote idol]

Crowd control but it's not really used in raids

Unless y'all run it on dark hours

[muted galleon]

ahhh ok

[muted galleon]

any sample build for that ? may want to build it as well

[remote idol]

For foam I run the courier, electrique mask, 4 pieces eclipse

All status/haste

[muted galleon]

i assume techician spec as well?

[remote idol]

I use survivalist

[muted galleon]

ahhh

[remote idol]

10 percent extra damage on status targets for your team

[muted galleon]

ah nice thx mate

[remote idol]

[slate hawk]

Damage did not increase but everyone has less health with this update

[lusty gazelle]

if you were not above 10k SHD you have more health

[zenith forge]

i remember that low rank players was fine.

[remote idol]

Your key tank and healer or whoever you have on Faraday might be asleep

Or people forgetting to gtfo of the water

[limber summit]

Is there like a newbie friendly raid group for people who's never done normal mode raids before ? Just got back into the game after a 3 year break 🙂

[valid marlin]

Try in #lfg-raid-pc

[gritty geyser]

so you can still get exotic to drop from bosses in dh but the chest doesn’t happen again til reset or on a diff character?

[muted horizon]

Yep, bosses can be farmed endlessly, but are a much smaller chance.

[thorny bison]

Are you asking about the chest in the end? You can open it as long as you complete the raid with 5 keys. The small boxes you get the keys from only open once per week per character.

[gritty geyser]

yeah i was basically asking if it’s farmable or just once a week

[ashen scaffold]

Farmable but after getting the weekly key from the small boxes it only drops from the final boss until weekly reset.

[gritty geyser]

ohhh ok that’s good to know thank you

[ashen scaffold]

Yw, Its better to just run it with alt characters instead of running 5 extra times to hit the box

[thorny bison]

Plus you get a key each time you complete the raid. 5 runs=keys

[manic brook]

How long is both raids?

[remote idol]

Iron horse is 40-50 with a decent group

DH is a fair bit less

[manic brook]

Ah

[ashen scaffold]

45 to 60 for ih 20-30 for dh

[manic brook]

Oh

[manic brook]

So what time is best for a post on #lfg-raid-pc

[manic brook]

Wait

Can you actually matchmake raids on normal (not discovery)

[novel crystal]

I think the best time is whenever you can do it honestly.

[novel crystal]

I don’t think you can but I’m sure you don’t want to

[manic brook]

It says Finding Agents for Operation Dark Hours on Normal on the bottom left

I'm on the division 2 rn for the raid. Everyone can join.

[ashen scaffold]

You technically you cant matchmake for normal raids. Either way dont waste your time trying to do discovery either.

[manic brook]

ah

[fickle sleet]

#lfg-raid-pc or the associated channel for your platform.
Otherwise head to the division community discord/gcrock :3

[tender hollow]

Best way to get in them is being in a clan - used to be able to come here and get in pretty easy, but they have been out so long - can be a struggle to get 8

[manic brook]

Oh

[fickle sleet]

Yes and no, I got my Regulus secured without clan running.
You ask in #lfg-raid-pc and outside of that you try your luck on the community server aswell as GCROCK

[split vortex]

What SHD level should I be when it comes to Incursion? The cleaners and their napalm bombs still kill me easily.

I'm currently level 566

[remote idol]

You will be killed easily no matter what you run

Your shd doesnt matter but your build does

[split vortex]

Is Cavalier with memento a good tank build for Incursion and raid?

[remote idol]

No

Cav I’ve only seen run on diag for the hazpro

And memento gets worse as you add players

You wont ever need a tank for incursion and for certain raid encounters where you do need a tank you’ll want foundry bulwark

[split vortex]

I have foundry bulwark.

[ashen scaffold]

You dont need a tank in Dark Hours and you’re better off running dps for Iron Horse. Unless someone teaches you how to tank in Iron Horse.

[split vortex]

I use Striker's Battlegear for DPS.

[ashen scaffold]

Then thats all you need basically.

[raven sky]

Whats the dif between half n full faraday i tried finding vids but i couldnt really find any apart from 1 which had them all stay inside middle for the rest of the fight compared to what i assume is the half method where you go to the back (where rockets spawn) after skippin phases for a bit

Also I have all of the exotic comps apart from the first that gray drops have I jus gotta wait till next week to get that one component

[remote idol]

iirc full Faraday is what the speedrunners use

[raven sky]

That’s what I’m tryna learn/get an idea of what it is

[slate hawk]

Full faraday is skipping all keys and you don’t destroy bullet just the mortars first phase. Half faraday is when you destroy the bullet

[raven sky]

Are there any vids of those runs jus so I can see how they go

[slate hawk]

Any ih raid on YouTube less than 20 minutes I’m sure is using this strategy.

[dim wharf]

Both are explained here. Mini and half faraday mean the same thing
https://youtu.be/9UOjN3oaDLY?si=anWm2uRJYjURcuPR

[rotund turtle]

Does pulse work on razorback for flatline?

[raven sky]

Ty

[tender hollow]

Anyone have any tricks to shaving time off in IH without breaking the actual mechanics of the fights? Ran a 41 minute clear before boards were wiped and trying to get under that.

[remote idol]

if you don't do Faraday try that

[harsh pecan]

Hello guys, im looking for finish the iron horse raid in story mode. I never finish it… I looking for some help…

[dim wharf]

Don't bother with story/discovery matchmaking. Just get a solid DPS build put together and find a group to run the real thing on discord

[harsh pecan]

Im looking fo group, im not here for bother.

[harsh pecan]

Where is the best place for found group ?

I just need to finish this raid for get my last trophy on this game

[swift peak]

#lfg-raid-console or check a discord with voice channels like the community or gcrock ones

[true wind]

I don’t think so? If you want to do maximum damage to weakpoints you’re best off using the Ravenous from the left shoulder

[ashen scaffold]

Man you're going to be disappointed when iron horse doesnt drop eb

btw you want to do dark hours for eb not iron horse.

[swift peak]

also, this is not the channel to find a raid group

[past niche]

okay thanks

[long sky]

Hey Kettle

[swift peak]

hey Saph

[gentle cedar]

Is there any chance to have exotic ravenous rifle?

Or create a group that can assist in raid mission, To collect exotic ravenous rifle.?

[ashen scaffold]

Only chance outside of IH is dz which is very rare and needs to be extracted. You’re better off joining a raid as most raiders have all the exotics at this point.

[gentle cedar]

I need a raid group can assist me to collect exotic ravenous rifle?

[ashen scaffold]

Its rng regardless

[gentle cedar]

Most of the peps in group they just don't understand and just rush to next target. They can't wait for like single sec to collect that key in Raid mission...!!!!

that's my problem in random making group........ An most of them they can't speak English..... its rare to find english peps.....

[ashen scaffold]

No you don’t drop raid exotic if you mm. You have to do the normal difficulty.

[gentle cedar]

okay, so is there any chance to create a group in normal raid.?

[ashen scaffold]

Join an active clan or lfg discord

[gentle cedar]

lfg?

[paper charm]

Lfg = looking for group/game

[gentle cedar]

ok

[mental pond]

You in Asia server?

[sly cape]

hey I had a big break from the division. and wanted to do the raids because I never had people to do them before. I have a "good"? drone build. And need help to understand the diferent raids

[remote idol]

I suggest putting a strikers build together before trying to understand them

[true wind]

There is very little place in raids for skill builds unless for very specific mechanics like oxi

[paper charm]

Skills like seeker, mortar, stinger are viable in the DH tarmac and baggage area

[true wind]

#lfg-raid-pc

[true wind]

yes when you’re under the least amount of pressure and have to do 0 raid mechanics and dps 0 bosses everyone can easily switch to a skill build to kill adds coming out the doors
Hell even I use eclipse burn for railyard

[paper charm]

Drone killer is not a raid mechanic, and Razorback not a boss?

[true wind]

hello?

[fickle sleet]

📞 Moshi moshi

[paper charm]

Raid is not uniformly LFG runs. Speedy runs have all 8 being very specific builds for mechanics. So you are basically weaseling with this notion that it’s all some generic DPS, with some exceptions. But in some runs all 8 are exceptions.
I have encountered at least one group where this stubborn insistence on not using skill (again, tarmac and baggage area) was a big impediment on improving their times.

[true wind]

My point is and always was that if you are new to raids then you are running 6 red core dps
Having a "drone build" is not getting you through a raid
Personally my IH character has 16 loadouts ready with differing builds but most of them are some form of DPS, I have 3 healer builds 1 oxi build 1 eclipse build and 3 tank builds but my point was that you are not getting in a raid as an FTC without 6 red cores

[paper charm]

People are not all new to raids. And way too many groups are making this build into a false dichotomy.
16 loadouts sounds like you are not really switching them under pressure. All but the very first are too slow to switch for speed.
Also good luck to you and your FTC. Good teams can carry 2 players doing virtually no damage. Besides, it is quite feasible to provide concrete feedback to people. You are not the gatekeeper of all raids.

[true wind]

so what do you want speed or FTC? You can't have both, I am not gatekeeping raids its just best to have people run dps. If they want to hop into raids with a full skill build then sure we can carry them, but that's not learning much about the raid when all you are doing is getting carried . Yes you can kill ads with skills, there is no issue with this, if you have fun with the build then by all means do what you like. The issue with most skill builds is that either they can prove to be inefficient or lacking in damage per second when it comes to actual boss encounters where ad clear becomes more important

I personally don't do speeds, so yes my 16 builds is a lot, if I was planning to ever do speeds I would be assigned a role and have 2-3 builds for that role

but I don't see myself doing speeds any time soon, especially not in times like these where todays runs can never be faster than what was achieved during open doors. Nor am I interested in doing so.

[paper charm]

There is speed, there is carry-LFG and there is learning raid. It depends on the situation. Even recently I had a learning raid with the learner being on healing, for example.
What I find stupid are those teams that build-check right at the beginning of tarmac or rail yard, where skill is totally feasible and — as you said — there is no boss.
My closed door time ended up being faster than the open one, by the way.

[true wind]

In any case if you’re FTC/LFG it’s best to have a 6 red core build on you
The question isn’t “please switch to red cores now” it always is “do you have a 6 red core build and know how to use the build you are on right now”

Also in my case if I’m not running for wr I am not running speeds. That’s just my personal preference I’m happy that your times are improving but personally I would like to spend my time not hitting my head against the wall

An extra point to note is that the raid is specifically learning than all 6 other members of the raid should be made aware of that and be ok with it
If someone wants to specifically learn healer and be healer all their life than by all means please don’t make me go healer again

[paper charm]

OK, then good luck with the “I’m not running for wr I am not running speeds” if you think WR happens overnight.
The “[…] know how to use the build you are on right now” is quite a different notion than the original “There is very little place in raids for skill builds unless for very specific mechanics like oxi”

[true wind]

the notion is not different at all, wave clear is not the raid, those are the parts in between the raid that take 30 seconds and might be oh but 10 seconds faster done with skills if they start with a skill build it doesn't matter, but the rest of the raid you should have a red build especially if you are not doing a speed. The notion that red cores shouldn't be required to be quite frank is one that isn't very thought out
The thought process here is the person in question asked for raids and learning them
In this case the most simple way to learn a raid is through red core dps builds, and anything else is something that might be harder to grasp or understand, the best way to help a team is unfortunately to conform to a meta standard of 6 red cores and that is why it is recommended to everyone and why most experienced LFG teams will ask the newer players to swap out to one such build

My mentality is not the one of everyone, it is just my opinion that speeds take a long time to master and that I am not willing to hit my head against a wall in order to achieve something that has a very low chance to WR anyway

[tranquil finch]

When your group is improving on tarmac with skill builds like mortar - your team can not aim gun/do have worst dps builds

Do you know that you can do both raids with only 4 good ppl?

[paper charm]

Since mortar primarily targets drones, etc. I call that a total myth.

[tranquil finch]

targets? isn't it manual?

[paper charm]

Yes, you aim it, but you aim it at spawn points of drones. So much for the need to nitpick!

[tranquil finch]

Ar, one bullet at them - they dead

Oxy at spawn points

Anything but slow skill

[paper charm]

Yeah, says someone who maybe only raided on a single platform, which your custom role suggests.

[tranquil finch]

Good

7.10 dh

Mortars viable i think only with super drag

bcz you have time to place turrets before enemies spawns

[remote idol]

📞KIRYU CHAN

[gusty raft]

Good morning to everyone. i just got back from Div 2 i stopped playing at 2021. just a quick question there is a new build for this update right? i dont think my dark hours build is still relevant

[ashen scaffold]

Gotta show the build

[slate hawk]

Just make striker for dark hours

[elder sedge]

Ofc when I'm on razorback my wifi starts lagging

[fickle sleet]

Ofcourse, you realize how many drones that thing has to control over a wireless network? Razorback is stealing your connection

[zenith forge]

earlier i asked about electricity damage on 2nd phase of faraday. somebody told me that all fine and its tank or medic fault.
so, couple runs shows me that damage is increased and faraday is more painfull now.

[tranquil finch]

Dmg is the same, but mortar strike is more precise now, for some reason

It is good to know when killbox ends, and exit as soon as possible. Healer should use chems at sides as you exit

[zenith forge]

no, damage from electricity is increased. air strike doesnt matter. player with full armor can die in 2-3 ticks even with full heal from survivalist (hive, chem, medkit).

[tranquil finch]

Are you using pfe?

glass canon?

[zenith forge]

doesnt matter. i was playing faraday evetime when i was raid leader. couple newbies down but all other is fine. now its much difficult. more than half team is dead.

[tranquil finch]

It does

[zenith forge]

ok, i see. you arent rly experienced.

[tranquil finch]

mortars/electricity are elite

pfe will chip a lil dmg from them

[zenith forge]

i use to play without any pfe and all was fine untile the last update.

[tranquil finch]

yesterday did full faraday twice

Mortarts are pain in the ass

[zenith forge]

i could do it even with sacrifice.

[tranquil finch]

Mortars better strikes under the bridge. Tank is shaking from his positions moving his protection area

And turret shoots you

[zenith forge]

sometimes. but ppl dying even before the turret start to shoot them.

[tranquil finch]

Losing tardigrade before entering water/Vabgard too early

[zenith forge]

dude, i know it. tardigrade and vanguard desnt matter in this case bc most of players jump out from under the bridge with at least half health without blue armor.

but now...

now, many players die right under the bridge.

[remote idol]

I don't think they changed electricity damage

Seems the same to me

[slate hawk]

The electricity damage is the same the only thing that has changed is we have less health due to the project resolve update

Tardigrade and vanguard also wouldn’t help as they provide armor and what is killing people is the damage to their health from shock

[true wind]

From what I understand it takes 3 electrical ticks to kill you, which I believe was the same before and after resolve. And the only thing in between you and those ticks is your healer and the big ass minigun, lately there have been much more mortars either targeting hives or targeting players as they enter the water

At least, what I call a tick of damage anyway, idek

All I see during faraday is my health bar go up and then it goes down in 3 instances

[tender hollow]

Can healers heal your health bar?

Never noticed if so

[true wind]

Not health as in health but like armor + health

[tender hollow]

Ah myb thought you meant health health

[elder sedge]

Razorback mining bitcoin via wifi

[long sky]

If you get in water before thumps then you get the extra mortars

[fickle sleet]

There's an #lfg-raid-ps channel for that purpose

[swift ledge]

I know, but no one is responding there😅

[fickle sleet]

This just isn't an LFG channel.
You either have patience with the lfg-raid-ps or go to the community discord / GCROCK discord (as those are much more active raids wise, since they have voice channels - usually, even if you find a crew in here, you then head to those servers)

[opaque glade]

I agree, GCROCk is very active with a lot

[reef pier]

Gotta say

Paradise Lost is way easier than I thought it was gonna be

[remote idol]

with a semi compotent team it's light work

[tender hollow]

My group runs the Wright fight with a tank always taking the aggro to allow 2 DPS players to kill adds and focus on Wright after water. Smooth strategy, but not the fastest. Curious how others on here run it.

[dim wharf]

Typical strategy is just 3 DPS and 1 healer.

No reason for a tank imo

[tender hollow]

We take people thru that sometimes don't have the best builds, so it takes longer to get adds down - tank just helps guy survive longer

[dim wharf]

To me, if you've got someone not fully pulling their weight, putting one of your experienced people on a tank is not going to help things

[tender hollow]

Definitely not the fastest, but try and help people get thru it

[long sky]

Hey Raucey

[remote idol]

A good kiter won't go down to wright so imo there's 0 reason for a tank

[north rapids]

Can you even "tank" Wright? I thought if he hits you you're dead

[tender hollow]

I just use a hazpro set up and draw aggro - then kite him around while the others clear ads. When clear we do water and after he is damaged I go and hit the valve to get aggro back.

[zenith forge]

maybe its a strange question but... any chance to damage chungos directly their health? i mean right in combat standing face to face.

i have suspicious about a player. seems like he's cheating.

[swift peak]

Yes in certain circumstances - BT chungas in the razorback fight are missing armor on their backside, BT and true sons chungas both have very slim armor-free points between their weakpoints and their backs. The named pair at the end of legendary zoo can be damaged directly by clipping your gun right through their armor and shields

[north rapids]

Well that's just regular kiting Wright though

Don't need hazpro for that

[tender hollow]

I just use same build I set up to run tower in IH

[north rapids]

But there is no reason to?

[remote idol]

you can outheal the swing with a good build

generally the healer kites

[slate hawk]

This is a channel to discuss the raid not actually do the raid. You are looking for pc raid channel

[stray bone]

What’s the dark hours raid like? Not done it before and wouldn’t mind trying for an EB

[ashen scaffold]

Its just a dps check

[muted horizon]

Dark Hours does have some mechanics to it, but they're quite simple and easy enough to explain.
and since the Raids are older now, make sure you mention to the Group that you're looking for the Exotic from there, most will be happy to just give you one at the end if they get it and you don't.

[stray bone]

Awesome cheers guys

[stray bone]

The raid lfg chat is a ghost town 😂😂😂

[fickle sleet]

Check out GCROCK + Division Community Discord Servers for LFG, those are more active for that.

[stray bone]

I’ll be sure too cheers!

Do you have the link for that discord?

[steep laurel]

Shoot them in the butt, that’s how my clan does it

[muted horizon]

That may sound like a joke but it's actually not. The place in their, ahem, "lower lower back" where the armour plates meet is able to take direct health damage.

[steep laurel]

That honestly works as well

[weak elbow]

Saying “shoot them in the ass” is easier and more fun though …

[true wind]

I love how the community collectively acknowledges how weird it sounds but says it anyway

it’s always so fun teaching DH and having to specify that you are not joking

[humble gulch]

yup

[long sky]

Just have a good dps build

[worthy epoch]

Anyone noticed the incursion second boss's DPS window is so much shorter?

[remote idol]

No?

[glossy kestrel]

Working on my Regulus project. And now doing the Ironworks base materials, it’s 34/40 now. Do I have to run IR this week to collect the remaining 6pcs to complete the project this week. And then run again in another week for the parts ?

[swift peak]

Yes, unless you have a second character with shared materials, then you can run it with them first to top up your mats before doing the final run on your main

[slate hawk]

What does IR stand for ?

[swift peak]

Given the context, I assume Iron hoRse

[flat garnet]

infrared

[muted horizon]

It's when Scooby Doo runs a raid.

[paper charm]

Probably more efficient to go to #lfg-raid-console . This is just the discussion (sans LFG), and people here have their individual groups and varying schedules.

[rough siren]

Ive never been able to do a raid and i really want some of the exotics and armour sets locked behind the raids, but i am really struggling to do them

[ashen scaffold]

Well the only thing locked behind raids is the regulus. Eagle and Ravenous can be dropped from DZ but it has a higher chance of dropping in their respective raids. Just make a dps build and join either the reddit discord server or gcrocks server.

[opaque glade]

I think they meant IH ( iron horse)

[spring egret]

you can also join the other official division discord..most active vets stopped using this one since they removed the raid sections

[muted horizon]

What other official division discord are you referring to?

[halcyon linden]

@spring egret There is only one official Division discord the other you are referring to is not official , yes the removal of VC's in here was not ideal and honestly since the idiots that caused all the trouble have moved on, maybe the mods can look at reintroducing a small handful as a test trial , What do you think Rivens ^^

[remote idol]

The decision came from upstairs, nothing to do with the mods

[ashen scaffold]

VC isn’t coming back #discord-news message

[halcyon linden]

That was back mid last year bro , many of the people that caused it are no longer raiding or in the discord

[ashen scaffold]

Doesn’t matter as the higher up doesn’t want to deal with it. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[halcyon linden]

The issue was a certain few raid junkies killed it for all , can't wait for their last boss farm completion records to get wiped once an for all

[muted horizon]

Just to clarify: yeah the decision to remove the VC's wasn't anything to do with moderation, it was purely "from upstairs".
There was no big influx of issues before they were removed, and no mass complaints about them either.

[spring egret]

cant see that happening honestly..people are already pissed enough about not only that they deleted the completion times but also that you now have to beat your previous time to show up in rankings which makes 0 sense

[muted horizon]

It's also a lie.

[spring egret]

what do you mean?

[muted horizon]

It was not "a few raid junkies killed it". It was nothing to do with a few specific people causing problems.
If the legal team noticed that they would've just removed them.

[spring egret]

ah lol i thought you answered my comment haha

[muted horizon]

More of a response to nexus spreading guesses lol.

Why it was actually removed I have no idea, and nor does anyone else on here.

[halcyon linden]

it was my understanding that a certain few caused the trouble originally or so I heard , I stand corrected..

@spring egret the thing is many of the top completion times were done by cheaters , look at the incursion, after night one a bunch had done it within 3 minutes or so

[modest sandal]

Can you use a booster hive for the foam part after furnace in IH ?

[long sky]

It still gives the hater ade

Just don't shoot them

[slate hawk]

Just have one person use cavalier works pretty well

[modest sandal]

I know how to do it normally just wondering if a overcharged booster hive would work for the whole team

[slate hawk]

The buff of the booster doesn’t last long enough to run past all that foam which is why I suggested cavalier

As most teams overcharge for boss damage at Williams overcharge wouldn’t be available unless someone using Acosta

[dense wren]

What's up with DH first doors not opening after clearing the ads?

[novel crystal]

Razorback takes armor plating damage, does it take any other damage like DTH or DTOC?

[frigid yacht]

Both

[novel crystal]

dth & dtoc?

[frigid yacht]

Killed the chopper adds before touching the ground incorrectly, if you want to kill midair, certain adds cannot touch the ground. Or let everything touch the ground

[frigid yacht]

Yes

[novel crystal]

TYVM

[frigid yacht]

Also worth noting that only the weakpoints take plating damage, not main health or vents

[merry fox]

Skill builds viable for the raids?

[dim wharf]

Not drone/turret builds. There's uses for certain skill builds, but if your new to them just have a good DPS build like a high end of strikers build ready

[merry fox]

I want to finally do one and may have time this week

[muted horizon]

@swift echo This channel is only for discussing Raids, to LFG for them either check down in #lfg-raid-console, or try the community/GCrock server.

[long sky]

Hey Raucey

[muted horizon]

@proven sundial You can't Target Loot farm the Raid Exotics, even if you already have them.

[proven sundial]

Someone LIED to me... My bad...

What about bighorn?

[remote idol]

Bighorn has a flat 5 percent drop rate from legendary named enemies, farm floor 10 on summit for it

Or any boss floor

[muted horizon]

just to be 100% clear: yeah what Naval said, bighorn only drops from named enemies in Legendary, so it may take a while to get.
don't worry about it for now, just play as you go along, you'll get there eventually.

[proven sundial]

I already have it, I'm just wondering if it is in regular loot pool now that I have it and its blueprint.

[remote idol]

Nope

[proven sundial]

Oof, darn.

[remote idol]

Same goes for ouro, Rav, reg, eagle bearer

[proven sundial]

Okidoki, thanks for updating me. Someone gave me hella wrong info.

[slate hawk]

Rav and eb are in loot pool as they can be accessed from dz they are no longer raid exclusives @proven sundial

[swift peak]

Still not in target loot pool though, even in dz

[remote idol]

they may as well not be given their crazy low drop chance

and yeah even then it has to be a random drop

[halcyon linden]

Not sure if people are noticing the same thing but the Raid Exotic drop chance is well under the 10% where it should be , seem like TU20.2 has screwed it up as after 30+ raids our group only got 2 exotics (1 from IH and 1 from DH) , also spoke to other clans and seeing the same thing , I have put up a post on the Ubisoft Support form , not sure if Rivens can push this up the chain to the powers that be to look into

[fickle sleet]

It's only 10% from the chest - how many of these 30+ raids were with fresh characters who opened the chest?
And unless you have a large enough dataset, this can be chalked down to rng.

[novel crystal]

Well tbf they’re trying to gather a bigger dataset.

[fickle sleet]

But at the same time trying to get the issue elevated without shower a proper dataset. 20.2 has only been out for a little under 2 weeks, which would be two resets giving the 10% drop chance.
I'd love to see a Google sheets showing the collected data thus far with the possibility of adding to it, otherwise what has just been mentioned - 30+ runs (assuming it is on fresh characters that can open the chest for 10% droprate) can give you a very low amount.
There's no loot_rng protection in TD2, so statistically you could do 44 runs (1 person) and still have a 1% chance of not having received an exotic, which is 1/100 people we would experience that.
Considering the game has a lot of players, it can happen.
Just aswell as you could get 10 exotics in a row.

[halcyon linden]

@fickle sleet I have spoken to other raid clans and they said they have noticed lower drops in Raids since then and they do just as many if not more than we do

[remote idol]

My clans been getting exotics just fine

[halcyon linden]

Maybe a PC thing 🤔

[paper charm]

If you have the data/sample size, show them and someone could calculate the p-value whether there is change in the drop probability. Otherwise the nocebo effect is quite real.

[fickle sleet]

@halcyon linden as yueshi_lai says - which is what I was trying to convey - unless you have actual data written down, this could just be RNG.

[rough pilot]

You're not the only one noticing this. Ever since tu 20.2 dropped, a couple of people I ran raids with have been struggling to get the raid exotics to even drop. All 8 of us can't get a damn thing

A good half of them have ran dark hours upwards of a dozen times in one day and literally nobody in the 8 count groups got the EB to drop

Crate openings included

[halcyon linden]

Like I said we did like 30 Raids (mix of IH an DH) with multiple people opening the box each run and only got 1 of each to drop,...

[rough pilot]

Jesus 💀 yeah not a single one of us could get an exotic to drop and we made sure to reset progress and to use Normal mode

Hell, I ran incursion a few times yesterday to help a few newbies and I noticed the Ouroboros is also hard to get and that has a much lower chance to drop than the Eagle Bearer

Took me a good 15 runs just for somebody to drop the gun for me 🗿

[remote idol]

Reset has only been like twice

[remote idol]

^

[remote idol]

Chance to get ouro is identical to EB

[fickle sleet]

Seriously, this is so moot unless you start collecting tangible data. I wanna believe you, but it hasn't even been 2 weeks since TU20.2

[rough pilot]

It probably is just terrible RNG but idk I'm very skeptical lol. I was getting all sorts of exotics left and right in 20 and 20.1

[rough pilot]

Percentage chance is identical but incursion only allows 4 players, raids offer 8 so it's based on your luck AND your teammates luck (assuming they have the exotics already and are happy to share)

[dim wharf]

It's technically a bit different. The box rate is the same, but the raid exotics only have a chance to drop once per week, and even then it seems to be a 1% chance of any exotic, with the raid exotics in that pool, so the actual chance of them dropping from bosses is VERY low. The ouro seems to just have a straight 1% chance from wright and each lovebird, so you have three 1% chances per person for each run. The incursion doesn't have that weekly lock from the bosses.

[dusk rune]

I have literally no idea how the raids the division 2 work. I did Dark hours once on Discovery. And it was really fun I have to say. I do have to say though that getting groups for normal mode raids going seems to be quite low. I may be wrong though, i'm not an expert with em

Like is there a certain time when raids are run in-game?

[ashen scaffold]

The well-known active raids servers is the reddit discord and gcrocks

There's an ongoing dh raid going atm in the reddit server.

[dusk rune]

ok. maybe i'll check it out, thank you

[rotund turtle]

I’ve actually gotten Ouro’s the first time opening the box the past two weeks. Both were double exotic drops one also having Scorpio and the other liberty. Thoroughly enjoyed sending videos of me deconstructing them to a buddy who wants one but isn’t ever on when I play

I run DH ~5 times a day and the EB usually drops for someone each day.
I haven’t seen the rav drop recently but I only do IH a couple times a week.

[rough pilot]

Yeah I FINALLY pulled my own Ouroboros after my 23rd run. Somebody dropped me one on my 15th so I made an older guy in his 60s very very happy by dropping it for him when I pulled it yesterday.

I've cleared DH about 7 times, NOBODY in my groups got the eagle bearer once... Even off the boss drops and crate drops. Zip, zilch, nada

It's dry out here 😭

[random edge]

is there any good way to get a raid group going for ih? not sure how lfg works in here but it doesn't look like many people respond :p

[fickle sleet]

Sending you two servers that has more active LFG in DMs now

[quasi tapir]

any chance you could send me the server details as well

[native tartan]

Is the Pinprick a good named snipa?

[ashen scaffold]

Not really

[heady swift]

can someone share their negotiator raid boss build?

[slate hawk]

More specific may be better as some people use nd for boomer in dark hours and there is nd for iron horse as well and they are different builds

[heady swift]

I didn't know they changed from boss to boss, i thought it was a universal build for general bosses, i am not searching to do speedruns to min max.

[slate hawk]

If just looking for a general raid build striker would be the option not nd

[nocturne plover]

Anyone running dark hr still haven’t gotten a eb

[slate hawk]

#lfg-raid-console

[nocturne plover]

Thanks

[heady swift]

Already plenty of striker builds and variations, kind of used to it.
Want to get into more builds in the raids without going too crazy on specifics with minmax to speedrun.

[slate hawk]

Then the next variation would probably be a regulus build not nd

Nd is used for specific purposes not used to wear the entire raid

[heady swift]

Yes i know, that's why asked specifically for raid bosses Nd not general use nd.

[slate hawk]

Right but that’s why I said to ask for specifics as a nd for boomer is not the same nd for feiser you generally asked for a nd build in your original message

[heady swift]

Then what is the difference between them?

[slate hawk]

Nd for feiser is a rav stack with d50 to kill where nd for boomer is more just a crit build to mark boomer and kill npc so 4 piece nd and could wear any other two pieces like sacrifice and groupo or something depending on weapon choice

[heady swift]

Ok, so... in IH, is the first boss and second boss same one shot?

[slate hawk]

Ideally yea you could get as much chc you can @heady swift

Whether crit or hs nd can do enough damage to kill him

[heady swift]

Ih has more complex builds then Dh...so i am not sweating too mich, aside from lucy in Dh where it's a pistol build.

[slate hawk]

Need crit for first boss but either crit or hs will work for second boss

Iron horse has more builds yes more diversity in roles as well which is why I enjoy it vs dh which is just doing a mission

[remote idol]

DH is a souped up DPS check

[heady swift]

Yea, adjusting my Headhunter for IH, same as my tanks. Haz+regen, and one shots.

Also trying to figure out Faraday build and mechanics.

[heady swift]

In Dh i could get away with a 6 strikers and 2 healers and easy peasy

[fickle sleet]

We talking tomato soup with the smol pasta tho?

[remote idol]

😭😭

[slate hawk]

There are a lot of videos for faraday out there on yt might help

[heady swift]

That's the problem... there are a lot of them and i see in action some different adjustments that are not in videos and idk what is meta atm since with every update there might be ... broken things

[slate hawk]

So if you not doing speedrun the strat is usually mini faraday so don’t look at speed run faraday videos as full faraday is a bit different from casual faraday

[dim wharf]

This is the best guide for IH out there imo. Has everything from lfg strats to speedrun stuff

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeK6nKsdQbDpMPZH8HujxNg-EV-VvlEWM&si=7aJpuY6kXfV3QbyY

[heady swift]

sweet.

[heady swift]

exactly why i didn't invest much time doing builds with faraday because i knew there would be versions on meta from patch to patch and clan to clan ect.

[slate hawk]

The faraday builds do not change but there is a casual faraday and a speed run faraday so not sure what you mean from patch to patch like the healer faraday build has been the same just like tank

[heady swift]

This game is already what, 5/6 years? with raids coming out fairly recently to the games life, right?
How many patches and changes have the game gone... thus the video and information made 3 years ago or two or one can be outdated...right?

Thus it's safe to say don't do anything until you sure it's still viable to the current state of the game.

Example, you have Warframe in your discord... can you say that ember from 5 years ago is still viable to use today?

[slate hawk]

Can’t compare Warframe to division Warframe is a game that regularly updates and division does not. Raids are also not fairly recent. Iron has been out about 3/4 years. The raid builds have not changed a raid build I used for my first iron horse clear is still good to use now. So faraday has not changed maybe the sniper build is different but you can still use old sniper build and still kill heavy. You are comparing apples to oranges here

[heady swift]

It's safe to assume games that existed more then 5 years can change from their original release.
That's why i am asking questions.

[slate hawk]

Yea most games with decent devs. Unfortunately division is not one of them maybe things will change for dlc which is over a year away but for right now it’s the same unfortunately

[heady swift]

fair point.

so far i am satisfied. (did only 400 hours)

[long sky]

Hey Raucey

[glossy vector]

bro does the LFG channels work for raids

literally super dead

[tender hollow]

Usually dead at this time + there's other community servers that are more active

[glossy vector]

what are the other ones

is this not the right one?

[dim wharf]

No one raids here anymore after the killed off the voice channels

[muted horizon]

To be more helpful;
@glossy vector check out the community div2 server, and GCrock's server for raid LFGs.

[flat jay]

Is the dh boomer merit bugged? Cause I was heading to do it and I didn't received it

[molten hull]

How do you get ironworks base mats?

[muted horizon]

@wintry quartz You're looking for #lfg-raid-console, or the GCrock/community server are other good options too.

[raw frigate]

From the bosses

[astral mulch]

How does one get the projects from the raid iron horse?

[swift peak]

you receive the projects after your first successful completion of the raid on Normal difficulty

[supple notch]

Kind of new here, how often do raids happen here? Kinda trying to get an Eagle Bearer, I just have like 0 raid experience

[ashen scaffold]

Well idk how active ps raid community but try gcrock server. Thats the only server I know that does both consoles.

[supple notch]

Got a link to it or is it searchable?

[fickle sleet]

i gotchu

[long sky]

@supple notch. Just have a good solid red build and your good

And let them know your new

[novel crystal]

For IH would it make sense to make an Ouro HE build for it? Or rifle/AR is optimal?

[tender hollow]

First 2 encounters you can pull of a strikers with ceska chest no problem (AR) and you can even swap to ouro when bosses phase
Third and last is where the issue is because waves of enemies on third and fourth the area gets massive

[paper charm]

Preferably no SMG in IH. Damage is done from the distance.

[tender hollow]

If you have a sniper det build fully optimized it rocks on the last area

But yeah primarily no SMG at all

[dim wharf]

If you've got the regulus, then DCH+regulus is the way to go over ouro. If not then ouro is very good as long as your 1 magging things, which you should.

[novel crystal]

Yeah I have regulus, but i wasn’t sure if i wanted to run that for the whole raid, I guess I will.

[long sky]

Hey Raucey

[boreal verge]

hi guys, i want to run my first IH, anyone got a good beginners build i can try to replicate? playing since day 1, but never got around to do the 2nd raid (ran 1st multiple times)

[slate hawk]

Same dps build for 1st raid you can use for the 2nd

[worthy patrol]

what time do people here do raids?
I need to farm EB in DH raid

[muted horizon]

Most popular time is close to the Weekly Reset (check the igname timer) and secondary is peak time in the US.
best place to LFG for raids though is in the GCrock/community servers, or through the xbox dashboard if you are on that platform.

[muted horizon]

@sleek egret You're looking for #lfg-raid-console

[sleek egret]

Oh my bad g just saw raid and was like aight bet hahaga

[spare sage]

Anyone has IH control room build ?

[remote idol]

Catharsis, restorer chem, fixer drone, emperors guards a nice

[ashen scaffold]

Isn’t that in fieser?

[remote idol]

Ye

[true wind]

Lots of different builds for this
Standard FI Healer is more than enough to get you through
I’ve seen about 20 variations with armor/hazpro so if you want to throw on some armor pieces that’s up to you

Then it’s up to preference on the skills. More experienced players like to have chem launcher while I’d recommend healer drone to less experienced players. Having both is fine as well if you don’t want to play “count the hive charges” but being able to overcharge your team in worst case scenarios is also good. If you have a good team a single healer drone should take you through the entire encounter start to finish.

Benefit to chem launcher is that you can heal your tank/teammates in the airlock by shooting through the broken window

Control room is one of those roles where it’s entirely preference based builds

[grim hinge]

4 x Future-Initiative (Chest!); BTSU-Gloves; Bagpack: Alpsummit or Uzina (Saveguard or Oportunistic) there is no substitute! 🤓

[remote idol]

^

The only prerequisite really is it keeps you alive so you can have a bunch of stuff

[novel crystal]

For IH boss 2/Fieser what’s the difference between having a Tank in the furnace, or just having a healer/tank playing control room? It does play differently, but are there any advantages to one over the other?

[ashen scaffold]

Iirc you don’t really need a tank for fieser if you stay in control room

Since you can rocket, break weak-points, and do codes within the airlock.

[novel crystal]

You still need someone to hit the water cannons. but I think a Burn resistant DPS might be able to do the cannon.

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah I never did cannons so it just based on my healer experience

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I wonder how long you can stay in the furnace as a full red dps

[novel crystal]

I imagine not too long, also depends on team buffs

[true wind]

It’s fully plausible to run dps all the way. There is technically no need for a tank but it fully depends on how you want to play it

There are 4 ways from what I’ve seen to play as this role

1. The normal way : a player runs full burn resist tank and reads the code and sprays the water all as normal, a dps helps the tank player break the weakpoints from the airlock as it comes along. When Feiser begins to wipe, the tank player is let out of the furnace so they don’t die. The tank may choose wether or not they stay in the room for the full duration of the fight

2. Stay in room Tank/DPS hybrid. This version has the full fire resist tank run a hybrid tank dps build(with DCH or otherwise). This allows for the tank to break Feiser’s backpack weakpoint as he is doing his wipe animation to cancel the wipe and stay in the furnace room for the full duration of the fight.

This method allows the tank player to bring Feiser to or close to 4 bars of HP before the damaging phase for a faster second boss using normal techniques
This method also allows for unbroken glass. This keeps the doors in the control room open for the entire duration of the fight but from what I’ve experienced fucks around with enemy spawns. Tbh I have no clue what exactly this does to a fight and researching it brought me nowhere so if anyone can explain it would be great

3. DPS to Tank hotswap
   This method allows for a quick weakpoint break and an extra dps player to help the team in case it’s needed for most of the fight duration. You run DPS until breaking the last weakpoint, at which you hotswap your pieces as water is being called for to shoot the canon.

4. Full DPS, same as above, no hotswapping, use a decoy or a drone to distract Feiser so he can’t use his flamethrower to stagger you off the canon, if you’re going to do this it’s probably a last resort when no one has a tank build

It’s takes a while for furnace stacks to build. But Feiser shooting you kills you much faster. This is why it’s possible to have the DPS breaking weakpoints stay inside the furnace room while a tank is distracting the boss so that there is no need for doors to open and close constantly

[azure pebble]

A tank can also break weakpoints btw, they don't really have much hp. The tank build I use for Fieser break the weakpoint reliably in 1.5ish mags of Famas. That's like 6 seconds per weakpoint, really not that much difference between a dps and a tank player. If you really want that 10 sec time save over the course of the fight, use dps I guess, but it's not like it takes forever on a tank build.

I find that in not so well coordinated teams, letting the tank do the weakpoint is much easier and faster than swapping people around, or having someone hotswap.

[ashen scaffold]

I see 3 or 4 occur more often

[pearl hemlock]

I agree I shoot the weak points quite a bit as the tank and sometimes it’s easier and safer to do that.

[slate hawk]

In my opinion hazard dps build is the best setup currently they can prep the boss shoot the cannon and dps the weakpoints and can use ravenous to stay alive if codes taking too long

[novel crystal]

Is Mosquito useful on any raid bosses for drawing aggro? Or does it not work well or just get overridden?

[dim wharf]

A sticky is just more effective at the same thing tbh

[novel crystal]

That’s mid. Thank you!

[muted horizon]

@nocturne moat You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc

[nocturne moat]

noticed 😄 thanks

[jagged mica]

no one wants to do incusrion or am i too late?

[novel crystal]

LFG is pretty slow here since voice channels were removed. Community server is more active

[muted horizon]

It also helps somewhat if you don't ask in the Raid Discussions channel.

[novel crystal]

they asked in the LFG and hadn't got any responses yet. Probably could've waited more than 5 mniutes tho

[ashen scaffold]

Subreddit discord

[muted horizon]

@novel crystal Well at first they asked in raid and pc LFG's, then were directed where to go to the right place.
then asked again in the wrong area.

I assume it's going to show up in #ask-td2-community any time now.

[novel crystal]

lol

[true wind]

Just matchmake incursion

And then yell at your teammates when you tell them to wait before opening the door to NOT ONLY Moss BUT ALSO Wright

[remote idol]

Gate strat incoming

[vagrant stirrup]

hello
I have a question for Fieser fight, sometimes in the room with the boss I can see damage directly on health instead of armor
Can someone explain to me why it is happening?

[dim wharf]

That's caused by getting too many incorrect codes

[vagrant stirrup]

Oh! Okay thank you

[true wind]

As said above it’s too many incorrect codes, unfortunately this is hyper accelerated by shotguns and shock ammo

So if you have a teammate shooting boxes with either a shotgun or shock related weapon your tank will be taking health damage

[dim wharf]

Shock or exotics in general doesn't have anything to do with the boxes getting bugged. It's anything that shoots multiple pellets at once, so all shotguns and the ravenous.

[pearl hemlock]

Yes but even if that does happens there are ways to mitigate wrong codes

[vagrant stirrup]

Okay thank you I will try to check that next time

[foggy blade]

anyone has a DPS build for DH raid? if so can you screenshot it for my homework purpose xD?

[ashen scaffold]

Striker with chest run ceska and coyote

[true wind]

Striker is actual BiS for the DH raid without any doubts
There are many cases in this raid where you can freely stack without endangering yourself or messing up raid mechanics

Buddy and Lucy before they become damageable
Razorback itself is stackable on
The little nodes in the Boomer fight before you begin
And Dizzy, Weasel, Ricochet are just 3 big meat shields

I wouldn’t even argue against using striker chestplate for most of the raid

Now am I running strikers for every DH? absolutely not. There is nothing more fun than tickling Boomer with Negotiator’s dilemma and having rare armor break moments

[dim wharf]

Striker really isn't.... Like it's fine everywhere, but calling it bis just isn't accurate

[true wind]

Besides for one shots and arguably tarmac I fail to see better builds especially in LFGs

[dim wharf]

Nego on boomer, on triplets running DCH + regulus (or D50) to hit them with an Achilles makes the fight far easier and more effective than strikers. It's sort of a one shot, but I'm talking about how it's commonly done in lfgs, not a speedrun coordinated 1 shot. Buddy Lucy there's the blb lfg 1 shot, but yeah if your not doing that then strikers there for sure.

For razorback I still recommend high end. You can build striker stacks in RB, but I just use rav/D50 the entire time. Don't need to build stacks, and 5/1 with a rav will very quickly take out any elite or dog, and you can easily 1 tap weakpoints.

[novel crystal]

What builds would you run for iron horse? Or does it get more in depth there?

[dim wharf]

Really depends on the role, but to simplify, mostly the standard 3p prov high end with DCH and regulus. And a headhunter build on Morozova

[true wind]

So from what I know and my own experience is that if you’re the only one doing nego on boomer and most of the time you are then it’s very inefficient way of taking down his health and without a healer and proper setup you most likely aren’t doing too much raw damage either. End up you are doing around 3m per headshot per ad which sounds like a lot but that’s per ad which depending on where you are in a standard setup 4 in 4 out doesn’t net you a lot of kills nor ads to get free hits off and the trade off is you doing just that slight bit more off of Boomer when he’s down with strikers tho stacks may be hard to maintain

The Dizzy one tap or rather Dizzy chunk in most cases is fun and having a good healer is helpful towards the end of the fight where a well timed OC can net you a Weasel chunk or even kill but most of the dps is still running from Strikers builds if it’s just 1 person.

This isn’t to discourage people from picking up these builds and try them out. It’s really helpful to any team. I love changing my build all the time. But I’m a firm believer that DH is that one place strikers is just better. Brain off, shoot shit don’t die, funny stacks go brrrr.

Funnily enough for this last part on the RB I run strikers inside and out. I use rav d50 but stack before 90. AFAIK it still works idk I haven’t done DH in forever and half of the time I’m messing up 5/1 with high end builds when I am

My favourite so far on RB is running outside with regulus high end and foam, then crying when a dog rolls around

Awww I can’t post images here

[dim wharf]

So this is nego on boomer in an lfg context, so it's just people clearing ads with nego. It's really effective since you can still clear ads just fine, and can easily shave off multiple downs. If several ad clear people are running nego you can double down him on 45, double down him on 41, and be done.

The regular 6/2 strat on triplets youll have a healer and 1 person with a one shot on A, everyone else on B. The 1 shot person brings their side near death immediately, the B side has to be intentionally slow in order to wait for a gas press before killing, then just use multiple one taps on bosses. It's a really simple way to do the fight with very little coordination like the speedrun strat.

[true wind]

#td2-build-advice rq

[haughty wagon]

I've never seen a 6-2 interesting

[true wind]

Xbox does 4-4 most of the time right?

[haughty wagon]

Depends

[true wind]

PC is most often done as 6-2

[haughty wagon]

It's either 4-4 with a normal group or 5-3 with an experienced group

[haughty wagon]

I do less non clan raids nowadays anyways

[dim wharf]

Healer on buttons and a 1 shot on A, then the other 6 on B. The one shot can bring that side to near health and let the other side kill. So on the gas switch it's easy to finish them off and only deal with weasel

[haughty wagon]

Not saying it doesn't work it just isn't the normal on xbox

What good groups run nowadays

Is 2 striker 1 shots plus healer on b and shooters+dps on a they burn rico with sledge, Scorpio and such then they get 2nd press go over and the strikers shooters can 1 shot weasel

Normally kiters and healer b

[dim wharf]

That sounds like more coordination than 6/2, but more effective. With 6/2 you just need a healer and 1 person who wants to do the one shot. The other 6 can just run whatever they want on B

[haughty wagon]

I see how that can be easier to run than 4-4

[dim wharf]

You hardly ever see 4-4 on PC anymore, I'd bet most experienced players don't have much experience with it unless they played Y1. When pulse stacking was super OP everyone swapped to 7-1, and just continued after it got nerfed. I started doing 6-2 because I hated 7-1 and thought it was shit lol

[haughty wagon]

I like seeing how different platforms do things

[dim wharf]

Same. That was part of why I started playing in PSN

[ashen scaffold]

Ah pulse stacking

And went fixed nerfed btsu gloves

[novel crystal]

Is/was Pulse stacking just everyone spamming overcharged Pulse to get the damage buff?

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah

[haughty wagon]

I wish ongoing still effected the tac50

@dim wharf do u remember how easy 1 phases were with obgoing

Ongoing*

[dim wharf]

1 phasing what?

RB?

[haughty wagon]

Razor sry

[dim wharf]

Honestly if your shooter is good it's fairly consistent. If they arent then it's a nightmare lol. I've had both

(Post OD)

The truck to RB is just have BrokenRNG on your team, that's the real RB secret

[haughty wagon]

I've hit a max of almost 85% dead with a 2 phase shot when it was out

Front had like 15%hp and that was it

[haughty wagon]

If coyotes didn't exist it would be horrible

[dim wharf]

You don't need a crit

[haughty wagon]

True but especially on na servers I fund the shot isn't consistent (eu servers)

Shot procs with a second delay and it isn't fun

[tight solar]

Help in lost pradise last boss birds love ps5

[muted horizon]

@tight solar Quit spamming that, you've been told where to post.

[haughty wagon]

Dead chat

F in the chat for chat

[remote idol]

Well speaking of raids I've done diag only twice now and it feels so stressful

[haughty wagon]

Which build you run?

[remote idol]

Just stuff for pure tank

Everyday carrier, ninja, emperors, hollow man, cav

[haughty wagon]

Huh

I rarely ever see that now

I mainly see hazpro

[remote idol]

It still gets hazpro immunity just a lil more survivability

6 skill tier with kard out

[haughty wagon]

Nice

Can't wait for the new exotics to be completely useless in the raids

A speed decreasing shotty and a speed increasing set of knees

[remote idol]

Could see some better times

Shotgun definitely seems to be more PvP focussed

[haughty wagon]

Yeah but I haven't heard anyone I've spoke to both pve and pvp say anything good about it

[hybrid helm]

hi there lads

[ashen scaffold]

You should try #lfg-raid-console next time

[novel crystal]

Check https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/578577726315823104

[loud cipher]

thanks

[strange loom]

does anyone know if any new raid are going to come out?

[remote idol]

there won't be any

[strange loom]

damn

I have like 500 IH completions lol

[muted horizon]

Incursions are likely the way forward, but we don't actually 100% know if there's going to be no more Raids.

it is unlikely though.

[strange loom]

aight

[ashen scaffold]

I believe in the raid dlc

copium

[foggy moth]

Any one running iron horse?

[valid marlin]

Check #lfg-raid-console

[true wind]

Incursion matchmaking usually takes 9 years

You can probably find people quicker in a LFG channel

[astral sluice]

tried but still no takers

[long sky]

HEY ISABEL 👋 👋 👋

[muted horizon]

@jagged dock Nope, this channel is just for talking about the Raids, you've posted in the right area already.
If you want more teammates, the GCrock/community servers are more active overall.

[jagged dock]

Ah. Sry and thank you!

[valid marlin]

Hey Saph!

[compact igloo]

where did the raid voice channels go ? and why ? 😦

its so hard to find anyone for raids these days.

[novel crystal]

Probably a better way to phrase it, but they were removed because of some concerns of abuse in voice, and possible legal repercussions that could affect Ubisoft since this is an official server. Community discord and GCROCK’s discord are much better LFG servers now :(.

[compact igloo]

Thank you

[mild quail]

Guys, I’m new. How do I put whaat my console is?

Nevermind

[valid marlin]

Try in #lfg-raid-console

[upbeat bough]

Aye aye 🫡

[muted horizon]

@tender hollow The Voice Channels were removed, most people use private servers/the community one/GCrock server.

[tender hollow]

Right on, thanks

[subtle sorrel]

what is this grock server?

[muted horizon]

@subtle sorrel If you google "gcrock discord" the link will come up.
tl;dr it's a raid teaching server that's good for general raid LFG's.

[muted horizon]

@mint plover You're looking for #lfg-raid-console
also check out the community/GCrock servers.

[sly shell]

Do y'all think it's possible to solo a raid

[ashen scaffold]

No

[heavy sinew]

not unless u got a good build and can do everything yea no

[steep laurel]

Or unless you’re a masocist like dien

[heavy sinew]

lmfao frfr

[steep laurel]

I have no idea why how he does those feats but tbf might be from experience

[heavy sinew]

he might be fr

[steep laurel]

💯

[ashen scaffold]

But it’s literally impossible to solo dh and ih due to mechanic

Regardless of build

[true wind]

DH requires at least 4 people because of Razorback

IH requires at least 3 because of furnace room

There are several other mechanics that require more than one player but those are the most notable checks

[kind token]

on normal no

[plucky nimbus]

What SHD level should I be before I start trying to do raids?

[dim wharf]

It's more about just having a solid dps build put together. Shd doesn't really affect if your ready or not

[plucky nimbus]

Ah, ok

[haughty spire]

Just curious if anyone has heard anything about them hot fixing the skill damage and repair. Issues? We found that everything is being cut in half. Drone killer can’t even kill drones with out a bunch of other buffs or a second drone killer.

I am also curious if anyone has noticed this to be the case in Incursion as well?

[haughty spire]

SHD levels can affect things if you are not getting full watch bonuses. For someone that has experience maybe not though

[dim wharf]

You'll be doing a bit less damage for sure, but it's not the difference between being able to do a raid or not

[wind oasis]

50% LP ON shield is realy funny 🤮

IT feels Like all skills on lvl 30

[dim wharf]

Are you talking about the skill bug? I was only talking about shd

[coarse heath]

we had same skill damage issue on Razor on our clan speed run and we we about to do best time we didnt knew you cant 1kill drones anymore

[haughty spire]

I was asking about skill bug and replied to your post as well two different subjects.

[tribal peak]

How do you get the ravenous?

[novel crystal]

Drop from Iron Horse Raid

[pure yacht]

Hi, do people still run raids I recently got a PC and need to start over again but I liked the exotics from the raids

[ashen scaffold]

Yes they still run regularly. You’ll find them in the community server or gcrocks server.

[remote idol]

Yeah unified endgame botched raids

[haughty wagon]

Can be done with 2 I'm pretty sure

1 in controll and 1 in b you go in get code and shoot code then prep and control room finishes prep and you just take a rav stacked shot on chunga

[true wind]

Furnace room is the one before that with the buttons

[haughty wagon]

Oh ye nvm my bad @true wind

[azure pebble]

Sniper alley valves need 4 though

[crude onyx]

It is possible for one person to turn two valves

[ashen scaffold]

Try #lfg-td2incursion-console instead of raid

[icy hearth]

Hi, i'm here to ask about IH raid, about the cup name cause i speak english but not perfectly so some of them have strange name for me so do you have a picture where you see all the name of each cup ?
I'm french and in my clan they did a picture thingy if all the cup and their names.

[ashen scaffold]

https://imgur.com/a/division-2-iron-horse-raid-2nd-boss-error-code-screens-O1wn8JN

[icy hearth]

you use error code has info ?

[ashen scaffold]

the error code from the furnace yes

[grizzled knot]

when will the skills in raids be fixed? i see it is still in investigation, how is it still being investigated when we all know its a bug caused by removing the lvl 30 raids.... are the developers on crack?

[novel crystal]

ok... so lets say for sure they know it's because they removed lvl 3o raids? what now?

[grizzled knot]

That's what a DEBUG team is for

[novel crystal]

ok? im sure they're debugging ig

[true wind]

what's the issue with skills and raids?

[ashen scaffold]

skills are doing no damage which is messing up dh

[azure pebble]

Skill healing, damage and shield health is reduced by about half in raids. This naturally sucks for everyone using skills to damage or heal

[tranquil finch]

Idk if it was issue. The transition from 30 to 40 update could be the culprit of skills nerf. Raid, i think, was using lvl 30 skills which are weaker, instead of lvl 40.

[muted horizon]

@austere jewel This channel is just for talking about the mode, if you want to LFG for it, please head on down to #lfg-raid-console, or the GCrock/community servers, as those are more active for Raids.

[austere dirge]

Hi, i have a question : i did an IH raid today. With it done, it unlocked the final project to assemble the regulus. My question is : Do i need to wait a week before i can get the parts? Also, i couldn't open the box at the end because i was missing a key. If i do the raid again this week, will i be able to collect the key that i missed before?

[granite peak]

If I remember correctly which I probably don’t so someone correct me but I think you do have to wait for the weekly rest to be able to continue

[azure pebble]

Yea, wait for weekly reset on tuesday, and yes you'll be able to get the key that you missed.

When you do make that run for the parts, remember to pick up all the keys, because the final component is in the chest. Honestly, I'd recommend keeping some key fragments, just in case you miss some on the next run after reset

[austere dirge]

Ok, thanks guys for the answer.

[grand locust]

how can i matchmake a raid on normal

[swift peak]

You can't in game, you need to group up manually (you can find people in the lfg channels in the community or gcrock discord servers)

[dusty matrix]

u can't

[long sky]

Hey Kettle 👋

[swift peak]

Hey Saph

[swift peak]

This is a discussion channel, not lfg. Since the removal of voice channels here most people use community discord or GCRock ones for grouping up

[teal lagoon]

mb

yk where i can find those discord's?

[swift peak]

I can't link them directly but use the server browser, search for division 2 and you should find them easily enough, they're both pretty big

[real spire]

Pretty new to Div 2, but hit end game and have some builds going, was looking to get into IH raid to get regulus. Should I run the raid on discovery before trying to join a group on here so I know what to do? Or are people willing to teach?

[azure pebble]

People are willing to teach, discovery doesn't really teach anything imo

[ashen scaffold]

People are willing to teach if you let them know in advance granted all they gonna do is make you dps. Just have a dps set ready to go.

And do not do discovery.

[hollow osprey]

I need help for raid, someone is available?

[azure pebble]

Do you have questions regarding the raid, or do you want to assemble a team? If it's the latter, you might find more success in #lfg-raid-console

[reef falcon]

in need of players for dark hours raid i was told to do it in normal but cant matchmake for people on normal so here i am asking for help so i cant ahve a chance at the end box

[long sky]

Check the other server or Grock

[muted horizon]

General reminder that this channel is for discussing the Raids (Iron Horse and Dark Hours), if you want to LFG for them, head on down to #lfg-raid-pc or #lfg-raid-console

[dense sparrow]

was ist der 2. channel den du verlinkt hast? da steht bei mir nur "kein zugriff"

[muted horizon]

@dense sparrow English only outside of LFG channels, thanks.
You'll only have access if you have the appropriate id:customize.

[muted horizon]

@vital pike As this channel is only for discussing the Raids, you're going to have to check in the proper place. The correct area is linked just above this message by yours truly.
Outside of that, make sure you check the community+GCrock servers, those are very active for Raid LFG's.

[vital pike]

Ah my bad 🙂

[coarse magnet]

do I need to wait for next week to get more ironworks base materials?

[novel crystal]

That or run the raid with a different character

[coarse magnet]

if I do with diffrent character do I get materials for other one?

[swift peak]

If you buy shared resources on both characters, yes

[coarse magnet]

so I have to make new character , lvl it up and complete that raid? I will wait for monday ig

[halcyon pasture]

How often do raids happen and how new player friendly are they?

[dim wharf]

We've got a good community, down to teach because bringing in new players means more people to run with. This isn't really an active lfg discord though anymore, there are a couple other main ones out there

[vague bison]

What’s the best ones or ways to find them?

[long sky]

Grock is one

[muted horizon]

@boreal walrus You're looking for the GCrock server, probably the best place to LFG for raids.
the community server also works.

[boreal walrus]

Okay!!!! Do you know how I can get an invite to the GCrock server? 🙂

[muted horizon]

Just search it up, none of either server is private.

[boreal walrus]

Thank you!

[forest glade]

I believe this fits into the guidelines of this channel so here goes and no I'm not LFG just trying to see what I should be doing.

So I'm very new to this game like SHD 116 Level new and my friend told me that I should spec into a Regulus build as I would like it, but it's from the Iron horse raid and I just want to know if I am even ready for it given my current circumstances, I have an eclipse protocol build and a Heartbreaker build as I was told these are new player friendly and widely applicable and if Raids are anywhere similar in difficulty to stronghold(at least for the tiers and health and damage numbers go) I can hold my own till about challenging but heroic I am mostly carried by my friends. I'm curious if these even work for IH or if I should try to get something else before I try to learn the ropes of the raid(While leveling my SHD) I was told there are ways to help even being this low such as equipping the Coyote's mask or using the scorpio to debuff and stun enemies but this is a readiness check

Also one last quick thing I'm not sure if I'm blind but I didn't find many guides online for it so if someone knows a place or has a doc about the mechanics of the raid so I don't ask too many dumb questions when I am ready I would greatly appreciate it!

[frigid yacht]

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/client/snv?isnewsnv=true&noteGuid=0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9&noteKey=2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808&sn=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.evernote.com%2Fshard%2Fs588%2Fsh%2F0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9%2F2e477c029e8333d52b55d2d99eec4808&title=The%2BStandard%2BDPS%2BBuild%2B%2528Y5%2BS2%2529

[ashen scaffold]

All you need is a dps build usually an all High End what speed posted or Striker, Heartbreaker is alright but it can mess up some people using Achilles pulse and will complain about it. Every inexperienced players are all placed in ad control. Also regarding about finding a IH group find ones that are willing to carry/teach FTC (First time completion). If you need guides just go to youtube. Way better to see than to read.

[muted horizon]

@brave patrol They voice channels were removed by Admin a long time ago, they aren't coming back.
Try the community/GCrock servers as an alternative.

[forest glade]

Eeek Ok did not know that about Heartbreaker, I did try to get something good in terms of all high end stuff and think I got something pretty good(except for my backpack I'm still trying to get a good Gift. and yeah I'm hoping some people are always still willing to teach. I do have striker but through testing found the high end to be better I'll likely put up a post in build advice later to see if theres more I should work on and in the meantime I will try to find an IH video that goes thru the basics

[ashen scaffold]

Imo if all you care is getting regulus then running striker is fine. There’s no need to learn the mechanics if all you’re going to do is ad clearing.

Also try to get your run in for tomorrow as you need two clear ih twice, 1 to start the project and the 2nd clear to drop regulus parts after reset

[forest glade]

I'm aware I need to clear it twice, but I also don't want to just take advantage of any kindness given to me just being a deadweight(Also I need to set aside some time for it so I wa splanning on this being in the coming weeks), Luckily I do have a Pretty good striker set, but its crit chance sits around 44% where just my high end Red build(with fox prayer) sits at a nice 60% I still need to get a decent backpack talent though because I really haven't gotten good backpacks thus far.

I can try to see if some people would be willing to run FTC either here or in another place called Gcrock I believe?

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah or the other division discord

[tired bolt]

Hey what’s the reason why everyone is strung up with the whole strikers vs. raw crit damage thing

[ashen scaffold]

Raw crit damage?

High End Build?

[novel crystal]

probably strung up about everything.

Just some parts of the raids, arguably most, where you're not able to build/maintain Striker stacks, and you're better off with a build that has no or very little build up for damage.

[spare marlin]

65% striker, obliterate, vigilance. For any activity. Better starting damage and very tiny deference with 100% striker at max stacks. Good choice for players who don't like build stacks. Just shoot and it stacks itself. 20 hits and dps is more than classic high end build.
Striker isn't a problem on raid. People are problem.

[lunar hull]

Ouroboros charges to 200 stacks crazy easily

[dim wharf]

5+ mags is not that fast...

[true wind]

Good luck using your Ouroboros in Williams

[dawn crypt]

Where’s the best place to LFG for raids when you’ve never done them before?

[novel crystal]

The community division discord and the GCROCK discord tbh. they're both searchable communities

[wispy mesa]

Hi

[lapis path]

do people still raid??

thinking of getting the game on pc

[ashen scaffold]

Yes but on other servers like gcrocks and community server

[lapis path]

Got a link for gcrocks??

[ashen scaffold]

You can just search it but I've dm you the link.

[steep laurel]

Some people do

[valid marlin]

Check / post in #lfg-raid-pc

[placid finch]

I cant atm

[weak elbow]

https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/1160945846100185098

[deep bison]

Where do i find Inaya

?

[novel crystal]

Inside the White House, she’s right next to the crafting table

[sharp hare]

anyone know any good clan/discord servers that raif on pc other than grock just moved to pc and looking to get EB/RAV

[muted horizon]

GCrock is 100% the best, the community is second best, this one is a ....3rd place.

[tender hollow]

You’re really better off using the other community server that has LFG voice channels

[weak elbow]

sarcasm?

[tender hollow]

please share your thoughts 😃

[muted horizon]

If anything this server is more like 4th or 5th, after a potential other Server I don't know about, and likely a subreddit for it.

[weak elbow]

It's still a pity the voice channels here disappeared...

[muted horizon]

No one's happy about it. We don't know why either.

[dim wharf]

Removing the voice channels removed it from the list entirely lol

[sharp hare]

I got banned from grock like 8 months ago for someone shit talking me and I started shit talking back so I was just trying to find a good alternative

[long sky]

The other community channel

[sharp hare]

where is that ?

[swift peak]

standard discord link but with /thedivision at the end of the address

[sharp hare]

ok i will give it a look thank you

[chrome forge]

Why are the weapons of the raids still locked behind the raids that no one plays

[novel crystal]

this is a bad question

[chrome forge]

How is that

[dim wharf]

People definitely still play the raids, also you have the small chance of them in the dz, but your better off finding them in the raids

[chrome forge]

I've been trying for days to find people to do the raids and no one wants to

[novel crystal]

where have you been looking?

[chrome forge]

Everywhere

[novel crystal]

eh, it takes some time to find a group, XBOX is probably the lightest playerbase too. GCROCK's discord probably is the best place for you to find a group tho.

[chrome forge]

I've tried

[novel crystal]

just takes time :/ sorry you haven't had better luck with it.

[twin junco]

@chrome forge there is a LFG function directly on Xbox. Try that. I guess it's the best way to find a group in your time zone. I am UK time zone. If that fits for you, I can help.

[mossy grove]

Can someone explain to me this real quick, is it once per week per character that you have the chance to for the eagle bearer to drop from bosses

[ashen scaffold]

The key boxes is once per week per char, but you can farm key from razorback.

So if you run 6 times you can hit the box twice

[mossy grove]

K, but does the bosses still have that chance to drop the unique exotic for their respective raid?

[ashen scaffold]

It does but its in the 1% exotic pool. Not sure if its tied to weekly drop.

[dim wharf]

It's a far less than 1% chance from the boxes, it's technically possible but just not practical to ever expect it from the bosses. It's tied to the "raid loot" so that <<<1% chance is also once per week per character

[mossy grove]

Im trying to figure out if I should keep playing the raids cause I already beat it with one group today (I don’t have a new character, I’m getting my current one to 1000 first)

[twin junco]

@mossy grove yes, keep on running. With an experienced group, you can run up to 3-4 DH in one hour. If everyone has keys and can open the box for you, you have a really good chance to get the EB soon.

[gentle cedar]

do let me know

[ashen scaffold]

Most of the raiders went to gcrocks and the community discord.

[ashen scaffold]

servers

[chrome forge]

Does keys not used carry over to the next week?

[ashen scaffold]

They carry over

[muted horizon]

@copper hull Iron Horse, and Dark Hours are the 2 raids.

[copper hull]

my mistake sorry

[true wind]

Huh?

[chrome forge]

In order to get the pieces for the regulus do I need to complete iron horse on normal or discovery

[ashen scaffold]

normal

[granite comet]

@dim wharf thoughts on wolf pack?

[dim wharf]

It's like 5 year olds playing soccer

[granite comet]

But it’s quite an effective strategy wouldn’t you say 👁️

[dim wharf]

No

[thorn magnet]

We used that method for our Flawless run

[muted horizon]

@rotund compass You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[rotund compass]

Yeah

[muted horizon]

@surreal silo You're looking for #lfg-raid-console, but also make sure to check out the GCrock/community servers for Raid LFG's. GL Agent

Although I'm pretty sure you can't 2-person an Iron Horse run.

[surreal silo]

ohhh okayy thank youu

im new to this sever

[muted horizon]

Welcome!

[surreal silo]

actually thoo it is possible

someone did solo iron horse

[ashen scaffold]

Discovery. Impossible to solo normal.

[azure pebble]

You can't do either of the raids solo sadly because of parts where multiple buttons have to be pressed at the same time. Unless you manage to skip or complete them somehow, neither of the raids will be soloable.

[terse cave]

solo discovery dark hours isn’t possible unfortunately

hate those plane buttons.

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah

Oh right is it even possible to possible to solo boomer?

In discover at least.

[terse cave]

yes

the only issue is starting plane trio

[ashen scaffold]

oh.

[eager finch]

team

teamtequilt

[muted horizon]

@deep crow You're looking for #lfg-raid-console, but also check out the GCrock/community servers. GL Agent

[true wind]

There are many team member checks in both raids
I’ve discussed this before 100%

In DH your are held back by the 4 person generator check and in IH you are held back by furnace room 3 person check

I’m trying to think if you can get to Morozova if you can solo it

But it seems like you’d be too slow?

[slate hawk]

You can’t even get to Williams solo as you need to press 4 valves in sniper alley

You can hit two with emp sticky trick but not the other side

[true wind]

liek theoretically

if you got past everything else

[slate hawk]

You can definitely solo Moro her mechanics are not hard

[true wind]

but you need to do them all before the bullet hits, while tanking her and all ads and getting keys

it's not a matter of whether the mechanics are hard or not its a matter of whether 1 person can do them all in the given time limit

[slate hawk]

Yes it can be done and has been done 🤣

Getting 6 rockets is not as hard as you think. A new person probably won’t be able to do it but the raid is years old so experienced players know spawns and mechanics

[spring egret]

especially with how overpowered gear is nowadays its easily doable if you are knowledgeable

[frosty hearth]

May need expertise tho to do it, and good armour regen

[jaunty ledge]

If we are talking discovery both raids are very easily done two person. A lot of it bar very few sections can be done solo.

[muted horizon]

@jaunty ledge Discovery is a lot easier because it doesn't actually give you any of the useful benefits. No Rav/EB, no Project for the Regulus, and the encounters are both simplified and a LOT easier.

[jaunty ledge]

@muted horizon discovery is easier because it's a waste of time. The idea that it's to introduce new players to raids is not true as the mechanics are so watered down it gives no indication of what a normal raid involves.

[jaunty ledge]

@muted horizon the irony is with a few changes discovery could be an extremely useful asset to the raiding community unlike it's current state.

[muted horizon]

The only useful change to discovery would be to make the mechanics identical, but that wouldn't fix the innate issue of it not clearly explaining that it doesn't give any of the useful rewards, nor the difficulty drop.

[jaunty ledge]

Actually I disagree, what it needs to be is rebranded as raid training. Put checkpoints at each boss and the ability to reset that boss.

Keep the discovery difficulty, add normal mechanic but slowed down.

I have led 400+ teaching raids and somewhere I could as an example re run boss 3 IH to show new players and players trying new roles would be worth it's weight in gold.

Example: jump straight into buddy and Lucy without having to do boomer and the triplets. Once completed be able to reset that boss and try again.

[muted horizon]

That feels like it'd require a heck of a lot of work for a mode that the devs do not seem keen on continuing in the future.
Maybe for Incursions, but those are already so short it matters a lot less.

You should work on that suggestion a bit and shelve it for now, bring it up when the conversation swings around to div3.

[jaunty ledge]

The Devs direction and focus is questionable at best in div2. Tbh if that's their feelings on discovery it would be best to scrap it now put the server space into something useful like larger inventory which the community has been crying out for.

As much as I would love a div3 I have my doubts it will happen.

[muted horizon]

I disagree that the focus and direction is questionable, but that's a matter of opinion.

However, we already have had an Inventory increase. The only reason for more is poor management on people's part. I guarantee that most of what is taking up so much room for the bulk of people is junk that is better served as raw mats or credits. 300 in the stash, plus 150 each on 4 characters. That is a LOT of space.

Div3 is in the works right now, it's early stages, but the upcoming DLC is almost certainly going to help with a marketing push for it.

On the matter of saving space for other things: Yannick has actually said that since Seasonal Characters have been nuked, they now have room for something else.

[jaunty ledge]

Yannick has said a lot of things....

[muted horizon]

That's because he's the game director for div2.
He's said that he'd love to implement every good idea he reads, but there's a limit on what they can do as a team. Budget, time, etc, etc.

[jaunty ledge]

I understand the complexity and limitations but what I have experienced, on Xbox certainly, it is regularly spoken about the core issues are not fixed and things are changed/added for the sake of " new content "

Which add nothing or disrupt the balance further.

Again it's a moot point and completely option based.

*opinion sorry.

[novel crystal]

Try here https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/578577838702198785

[ashen widget]

Has anyone tried the thorn in iron horse? And is it hilarious?

[novel crystal]

The shotgun?

[ashen widget]

Yes

[novel crystal]

Why would that be hilarious?

[ashen widget]

You can't tell me that 1-2 tapping enemies coming out of the doors isn't funny

[novel crystal]

I mean, it's fun, but it's not laugh out loud.

[ashen widget]

Our definitions of fun are clearly different then, and we can, in a civil manner, leave it like that.

[haughty wagon]

It's adding stuff nobody asks for so how can it be called good focus and direction

Aegis isn't even worth its weight in stone

Breaking point has a useless set effect and is outclassed

Zwaidowka is buffing crap when the foxes already exist

[wide palm]

anybody can explain to me how to pass the captain Fieser in IH raid ?

like if you are teaching a neanderthal with aneurysm

[haughty wagon]

Needs to be explained in person just join a good group

[frosty rune]

Good morning, has anyone else noticed that the game in the PS4 / PS5 version, the interface has larger letters? Before the update, the fonts, the HUD displays were smaller, with the update, the resolution of the game seems to have changed

[haughty wagon]

No but I've noticed how horrible this update is fix your game ubi

[muted horizon]

@west spade #lfg-td2incursion-pc Is where you're looking for to find teammates for an Incursion, since they aren't actually counted as Raids they don't really fall under the same umbrella.

[molten sorrel]

Does anyone know the exact drop rate of exotics in specific raids except the countdown raid

[terse cave]

10% from chest
1% from bosses (once a week)

countdown isn’t a raid either

[tender hollow]

liar…..

[terse cave]

wtf

[swift peak]

Think it's just a 1% chance of any exotic from a boss drop, so the chance of it being specifically the raid exotic is smaller.

[queen agate]

10% from chest!? I thought someone said 30% but how do they know nor do you know it’s 10%?

[terse cave]

because i’m compton

so my knowledge is true his is lie

[queen agate]

Ohh that make sense ty

[muted horizon]

@fair wigeon You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc, GL Agent

[muted horizon]

@runic folio You've already posted down in #lfg-raid-console, this channel is just for discussions.
You can also try the GCrock/community Server. GL Agent

[dim wharf]

Has anyone else had an issue with staggering moro with the rav today or do I just not know how to stagger?

[terse cave]

i think we both know buddy 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[astral bane]

[tropic siren]

So what are raids actually like? Fairly new to the game and I have no clue what theyre about

[ashen scaffold]

8 man group content

[tropic siren]

Well I mean I know that much, but are there any special mechanics involved or is it just more challenging?

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah theres mechanics involved

[tropic siren]

ah alright cheers

[terse cave]

special mechanics that generally require a specific build

like tank builds for iron horse

[tropic siren]

Ah alright so I shall avoid raids then :D unless I get into the whole buildcrafting thing

[terse cave]

it’s not that extreme

the builds are that specific

but just any thing that can meet the criteria needed to complete that role

[tropic siren]

ah thats fair then

[terse cave]

example: key tank builds need to be tanky and using vanguard

so people will use builds that are tanky and can use vanguard

[remote idol]

She keeps running straight past me lately idk why

[twin junco]

@latent night @dark temple there is a LFG function directly on Xbox. I guess you will have a better chance there to find a group in your time zone.

[muted horizon]

@ripe arch You'll need to pick your platform role(s) over in id:customize, then you can post in either #lfg-raid-pc or #lfg-raid-console, depending on what you are.

[muted horizon]

@glass pumice If you're looking to run the Raid, you'll have to check down in #lfg-raid-pc, but it sounds more like you want a clan, so #td2-clan-recruitment is probably more your speed.

[swift peak]

@civic pollen See above

[civic pollen]

See what? everything above says I have no access

[swift peak]

First pick your platform in Channels and Roles, then you'll be able to see the relevant lfg channels

Looks like you found it

For xbox raids though it's worth mentioning that most players seem to use the built in xbox match finder app

[mint pike]

i also see no access

[swift peak]

Because lfg channels are platform specific, you won't see #lfg-raid-pc unless you take the PC role, and PC players won't see #lfg-raid-console

[dawn crypt]

Hey folks. Just wondering can you potentially get the exotic from DH raid if you run it multiple times?

[terse cave]

you would have to run it a bunch

because each run after your first key run you would only get 1 key frag each run

the potential exotic drop from boss is only during your first run each week

[dawn crypt]

There’s keys in it?

[oak merlin]

yhh theres 5 keys which you get on your first run

and every subsequent run gives you 1 key after you destroy razerback (last boss, the machine), until the next week where it resets and the described cycle starts again

Box needs 5 keys to open

so in your first run, you can open box coz you get 5 keys

but after that, you have to do DH 5 times in order to open box again

until the next week where it resets

The day it resets is Tuesday

[dawn crypt]

If you’ve ran it but not picked up the keys I’m assuming you can go through and get the keys to open the box

[oak merlin]

nope, you always need to pick up keys on your first run. if you missed it, you can pick it up on your next run

but after you picked up keys for the week, you just need to pick up the loot closest to razerback to get the 1 key

[dawn crypt]

So you can only get keys on your first run of the week. Gotcha

[oak merlin]

well 5 keys on first run

1 key on each subsequent run until reset

[dawn crypt]

Alright. Joined a random DH earlier in the week but wasn’t aware there were keys as it was my first time in the raid so will wait till next reset to get a team together

[oak merlin]

you can still do it again to get those keys

but also your plan works too!

[dawn crypt]

Ah. So I can run it again get the keys and open the box for a chance at eagle bearer just not a chance from the boss.

[oak merlin]

correct!

[dawn crypt]

Awesome thank you.

[oak merlin]

You are welcome!

[ashen scaffold]

@dawn crypt if you joined a random dh and you didn’t get info about keys then it was highly a discovery raid and those doesn’t give the key. It has to be on normal.

[scarlet otter]

can someone fill me in on how to join a raid voice channel? it's been a while since I've been on discord and looks like they took away the Raid voice channels

[terse cave]

they took them away

so we cant really help

[cyan trench]

🛺

[swift sky]

Any one got a decent clan that can help with RAID for the Eagle Bear? Would appreciate the recommendation. Been a solo for a while as most of my friends no longer play it.

[swift peak]

@turbid lotus @peak rapids @surreal acorn
There are lfg channels for raids further down the list, please use those for matchmaking.

[turbid lotus]

Sorry I’m to old and senior for this the younger clan members would not post it. Lol
Thanks.

[terse cave]

wrong channel

[haughty wagon]

Just go to lfgs lol

Don't need a clan

[swift peak]

#lfg-raid-console

[fathom raptor]

Need a running buddy 👀

I’m not even level 1k but I’ll polish your shoes

[terse cave]

not the proper channel guys

[vivid hull]

raids have reset for the week right?

idk why but i thought it happened on tuesdays

[ashen scaffold]

It resets today.

Well atleast it happened 3 hours ago

[muted horizon]

@frosty lodge unfortunately, you are not able to get any of the Raid locked content via doing the Discovery difficulty of the Raids.

[swift peak]

@tender hollow try #lfg-td2incursion-console

[lusty tendon]

question what the minimal SDH level requirement to do raids?

[ashen scaffold]

1

All that matters is do you have a basic dps build ready and the ability to follow instructions.

[lusty tendon]

Well I mean I have eagle bearer from year one on Xbox did anything changed about dark hours?

[tender hollow]

Nope! Exactly the same raid

[swift peak]

@stiff harbor you want #lfg-raid-console

[stiff harbor]

Thanks mate

[tender hollow]

If i have the striker build with St Elmo's, would I be okay to try raids without being absolute dead weight?

CHC/CHD is 57%/112%

[terse cave]

yea

[ashen scaffold]

More than fine.

All your gonna be doing is killing ads and follow instructions

[static smelt]

How are raids?

Like how do they function

[ashen scaffold]

DH is dps check with some mechanics
IH has more mechanics involved but newer players won’t have to worry too much about it.

[static smelt]

Ok

[ashen scaffold]

Yeah just follow instructions and have a decent dps ready

[tender hollow]

Cleared it. Our healer explained so well and we did it very quickly too!

[ashen scaffold]

You did Iron Horse?

Grats

[tender hollow]

I was an incursion since i had the name wrong, but I did Paradise Lost... No Orou 😦

[ashen scaffold]

Oh.

[ashen scaffold]

Well incursion reset happens in a few hours so you’re good to do it again

[tender hollow]

hopefully I can run with the same team tomorrow... It was a lot easier than I expected

[swift peak]

@lime wraith you're looking for #lfg-raid-console, this is the discussion channel

[weak elbow]

You heard wrong. It's the worst exp farm in the game 🙂

[steel bay]

Haha really ahh thank you I’ll keep away from them then lol

[weak elbow]

Don't do that either

they're great fun

[swift peak]

@coral prism this is the discussion channel, you want #lfg-raid-pc

[fierce crystal]

i have a question i ws in a iron horse raid and it ended with the last boss left if i find some people willing to try help me do i need to start over from the beginning or can i /we conintue from where i left ?

[sinful perch]

u can but u need to be leader of the raid

[hexed vapor]

Could someone help me with project rates gnaw bones

[swift peak]

Just Google 'regulus guide'

[hexed vapor]

I need to complete the project

[swift peak]

If you're looking for players to raid with, try #lfg-raid-console or use the xbox game finder

[wanton zenith]

We just had a Incursion Run where we got 3 Ouros, 2 of those dropped to the same guy. Good day i would say

[muted horizon]

@lethal galleon This channel is just for discussing the mode, as 'Kettle says, you'll have to use #lfg-raid-console to find a team.
You can also check out the GCrock Server, they are far more active for Raid LFG's than here.

[pastel hatch]

jealous … have yet to run an incursion but really want the ouro for a build i‘m making

[vocal arch]

I've lost hope on getting the oro or eagle eb, majority of the player base left I can't trust to cover my 6, I just rather have both drop by exotic cashes

[slim sinew]

did you go to GCROCK discord ?

[slim sinew]

You should find RAID party

Send you an invite for their discord

[pastel hatch]

did raids reset?

[pastel hatch]

they don‘t drop from caches, you need to grind the incursion / raid or pray during a DZ session with 0.0000000001% drop chances

[weak elbow]

yea, every Tuesday at reset

[pastel hatch]

and incursions?

[weak elbow]

Tbh i don't know, should be on the same time, but there was a bug that it would unlock a week after the first time you cleared it.

[terse cave]

they reset on saturday or sunday

i don’t remember which

[weak elbow]

does it not differ per account?

[terse cave]

no it’s some time on one of those days

iirc

[weak elbow]

still weird af then

[ashen scaffold]

Resets on monday

[terse pivot]

why cant you matchmake on normal mode for raids isnt that the only way to get certain weapons like eb

[compact mango]

shrugs no clue honestly but would you want to matchmake for them instead of going into discord and getting a group together?

[ashen scaffold]

You should matchmake Tidal/Zoo Leg or Incursion and that should answer that question

Then again there’s plenty of discord/clan that raids all the time

[terse pivot]

im talking abt the dark hours and iron horse raids when i put them on normal difficulty it wont let me matchmake

[ashen scaffold]

Because thats how it is

[terse cave]

because they would be fairly hard to actually do in a match made group

and people would complain or something

keep raids unmatchmade

[muted horizon]

@civic grail You're looking for #lfg-raid-console, but also check the GCrock server. GL Agent

[swift peak]

@wraith cradle this the raid discussion channel, that looks like a question for #divashion

[swift peak]

@opal seal please update your roles, then refer to Rivens message above for the correct channel to lfg in.

[half root]

Is it generally the healer who does control room in iron horse?

[ashen scaffold]

yeah

[left temple]

So today was my 4th day back from a 3 year break but I put together a striker build how would I know if I’m ready ?

[ashen scaffold]

If it’s based on the spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice then you’re all good. Just be ready to communicate.

[thorny solstice]

EB Seeker

[left temple]

I actually didn’t use that spread sheet lol just YouTube but it’s a all read striker build and yes I know of communication I actually have done dark hours a lot before I left on the 3 year brake and actually have the eagle bearer

[ashen scaffold]

If its just ~50% chc and lots of chd then you’re all good.

[left temple]

Okay perfect thank you

[muted horizon]

@left temple Youtube builds for div2 can be a little "wonky", it's best to stick to the spreadsheet, as that has the math checked, where-as not all youtube builds will check out the math properly.

If you prefer videos though, "iKia" is one of the few div2 youtubers who does test out the math.

[left temple]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[slim barn]

i just see another room for raid helps sry 🙂

[tired tapir]

Hey what’s the the difference between discovery and normal on the dark hours raid I’m trying to get the eagle bearer

[dim wharf]

Discovery lets you matchmake with idiots who make the lower difficulty more difficult to complete than the standard difficulty with a typical lfg group. Youll only have a chance at the EB on normal difficulty, not discovery

[prisma bough]

hello guys

[muted horizon]

@prisma bough You're looking for #lfg-raid-pc, GL Agent

[coral wedge]

Maybe someone here can give a simple answer. raid lockouts account-wide or per Character ?

[azure pebble]

Lockouts?

[azure pebble]

What do you mean by that?

[coral wedge]

really you don't what " Lock outs " are ? A Raid where you can only do like once a day, once a week. Guess not of MMO players around.

[muted horizon]

That's not really a term in the div franchise, and is not a thing with the Raids in div2.

Honestly, I've never heard of it either for other MMO's. I assume it's from something like WoW?

[coral wedge]

lol wow that's games a joke , No LOTRO, SWTOR , 90% of MMO have " Lock outs " I just didn't know I Raid in D2 had them account lock out or character lock out. Like Operation Dark Hours once you do it you have to wait a week , wasn't sure if you had 3 others if you could do with each character or Just 1 time a week per account