division-universe

[digital hemlock]

They will bring in China after they bring in Sokolov...

Then you got the situation where foreign powers come in to steal tech, just imagining.

Or maybe ISAC gains sentience, feels that Humans need to be "managed directly", does full rogue. Division has to ally with BT this time.

Pers Aspera make me think this way....

[sick lantern]

sorry but that doesn’t sound like a good idea

[digital hemlock]

There is a reason my career isn't into story writing

[sick lantern]

well if a foreign power gets involved it would be more interesting than the plot of Div 2

and i mean actually involved not this “man behind the man” shite with Sokolov

[digital hemlock]

BT and Division already got about the same Tech

Need Tech wars or something

[gaunt ice]

Hey remember when this was still about stabilizing US from a virus?

[sleek plover]

tech wars

robots go pewpew

damn i hate lmb

[gaunt ice]

The White House turning into a massive robot vs a BT super robot

Goes full Japanese super hero shit

[languid prawn]

U guys ready for the Netflix adaptation? Could explain a lot about the stories plot including who the hunters are or their origins.

Movie not adaptation my bad

[sick lantern]

i’ve been ready since it was announced five years ago

[languid prawn]

It was? Damn that’s never coming out then

[sick lantern]

well it changed director recently which means it’s still on

[sick lantern]

I just wondered, did they pick the General Assembly chamber on purpose to reflect the storming of the Reichstag?

[outer sluice]

feel like i should play div 1 all over again just to get the full story

i used to play div 1 a lot but i didnt care much about the story

[cold bramble]

the division games have an amazing story from what i've played

[outer sluice]

i mean the first games story kinda made sense

its setup to where everyone would think amherst would be the bad guy at first because he made the virus but then its keener and what not

it just made more sense to me

[cold bramble]

i've played the entirety of the div2 story minus some logs from season one and gotten to lvl 16-17 on the original

[outer sluice]

div 2 story is just like lets get rid of all these factions first than worry about the big bad and all we really did is take out some big names for black tusk. than the expansion came out and we kill keener and theres more after that

it makes sense in a factor of trying make the story go on and on like its wwe

[cold bramble]

i'm still scratching my head over how faye and the agent didn't die in the original when the plane exploded

[outer sluice]

agents are like super human in div 1

you press two buttons and you become nearly invincible

or you could do tons and tons of damage

or u could revive ppl instantly

[cold bramble]

nearly invincible how so?

[outer sluice]

div 1 builds were OP AF

[cold bramble]

i want a classified frontline once i get there

[outer sluice]

the security activation thing

forgot what its called

but it makes you tanky as all hell

[cold bramble]

oh the spec skill?

[outer sluice]

when someone activates it in the 1v1 u know they lost

[cold bramble]

or specialization skill as it's called

[outer sluice]

but yeah i remember seeing ppl run legendary solo like its nothing in div 1

[sick lantern]

when was the last time you played may i ask? it used to be super OP but it isn’t an instant win button anymore

[sick lantern]

they were far enough away to only get hit by some shrapnel

[willow current]

Some shrapnel? Have you seen fayes leg?

[sick lantern]

well they weren’t caught in the fireball so what else could it have been

[willow current]

It was a lot of shrapnel

[sick lantern]

well yea that’s what i said

[sick lantern]

Ubisoft member confirmed the Sokolov and Hunters leak is fake

[outer sluice]

no like when someone uses it in a 1v1 thats a lose button

like you know theyre too squishy if they pop that

[sick lantern]

I have good reading comprehension

[willow current]

What 'leak'? What did I miss?

[upper harness]

some shitass leak everyone forgot about the next day

[willow current]

Oh wait did that leak have to do with the level cap increase?

[sick lantern]

nothing worthwhile

[sick lantern]

no a different one

[sick lantern]

there’s a lady in a WSP phone call in Div 1 who gets burnt to death near the petrol station/ weed growing operation, i wonder if you can actually find her there

[willow current]

Would be cool if you can

Or if you could visit some of the locations from the video's, like the one where another lady gets burned by an incinerator or the police car that gets shot to hell by rikers

[sick lantern]

yea i was wondering about that actually

if it does exist in the world or not but i’ve never heard of it so i’m guessing not

[cold bramble]

I have never thought about it but I just assumed all those in-game videos where from actual in-game locations you could find, but maybe just because some of them are from locations you see in missions etc, like the ambushed division agents in the subway entrance in TD1

[willow current]

Yeah but I have never found the location of some, and I have been everywhere on the map

[sleek plover]

i hope discord would bring back div 1 emojis

mostly because cleaners and rikers are back

damn I hate LMB and Cleaners

[upper harness]

I wish we at least could get an apparel event related to LMB

[sleek plover]

I really honest they add new dialogues to btsu chargers

and some exclusive bounty like combat on ex lmb guys

they can have like a special squad composed of ex lmb vets

[upper harness]

they should’ve made an Easter egg like faction consisting of LMB remnants in worn down gear

[sleek plover]

gotta need lots of incendiary grenades

im no cleaner sympathizer but i use fire a lot

[upper harness]

cleaners at least have an idea

[sleek plover]

mostly because its painful, and i want my sworn enemies to suffer before they die

[upper harness]

true sons are just dicks but with an idea

[sleek plover]

i dont like cleaners tbh

who are they to decide who live and dies

that just sounds oppressive to me

[upper harness]

hyenas certainly aren’t any better

or any other faction you didn’t list

[sleek plover]

The thing about hyenas and rikers is

that they prey on the weak, i dont like that

and keener wants to make that might makes right ideology into law

[gaunt ice]

i mean,theyre the morally best faction 'til point

doesnt make them good

but the best amongst the worst

[sleek plover]

i think they are the most evil second to lmb,btsu,true sons fascist factions

[gaunt ice]

so who is the least evil ones?

[sleek plover]

the most morally good i think are the outcasts

and rioters

but like i said they are still evil

even rioters prey on the defenseless

[gaunt ice]

the same group that tries to kill everyone because theyve been mistreated?and its not everyones fault?

vs the group that tries to destroy the virus?

[sleek plover]

outcasts wanting vengeance actually gives a lots of bonus points in my book

they deserve vengeance, too bad they prey upon the weak

[gaunt ice]

revenge to True Sons,make sense.helpless civilians,not really

[sleek plover]

cleaners want control and force upon their vision of order

[cold bramble]

cleaners w/ joe in charge

[sleek plover]

thats why i think they are the second place evil

[gaunt ice]

thats where youre wrong

[sleek plover]

i know that description sounds like lmb

but what i meant was that

[gaunt ice]

they wanted to wipe the virus with fire,which is great until they start opening human bbq party

[sleek plover]

they think they deserve deciding who gets to live and die

[gaunt ice]

which is still bad,but they have a good intention

[gaunt ice]

same as Outcast

[sleek plover]

and they think of themselves as heroes

for burning people alive

[gaunt ice]

wrong execution,great idea

still better than Outcast

[sleek plover]

thats actually what i think about outcasts myself

if they become like resistance like faction trying to destroy treu sons

[gaunt ice]

their "Idea" is to kill everyone who's not in the quarantine zone with them

[sleek plover]

they could have been great allies

i mean i believe vengeance is always a good cause

[gaunt ice]

"vengeance is always a good cause"

[sleek plover]

the scene where emeline shown up and her followers continue the hammering

that was really satisfying

[gaunt ice]

cleaners couldve helped us too

[gaunt ice]

thats still wrong,since that guy did not propose the idea of abusing anyone inside

[sick lantern]

outcasts and rikers are pretty similar and both are awful

enacting pointless “revenge” on the innocent

[gaunt ice]

cleaner best group morally

sometimes sacrifices can be made for the greater good

sorry that was a bad joke

[cold bramble]

evil is only decided by the beliefs of the viewer, cleaners pretty much are the only group with the less negative aspects that can cause them to look evil

[sick lantern]

you really couldn’t be more wrong

[gaunt ice]

like both above me said

[sick lantern]

like if someone’s going to bomb an orphanage and i kill him to stop him
that doesn’t give his family a moral right to take revenge

[junior knot]

Does it though? what if the enemy was using the orphanage as a place to store munition? What if a really bad group of was using them as human sheilds?

[sick lantern]

still doesn’t make it right

[junior knot]

Morality is subjective.

[sick lantern]

bombing the innocent for no good reason is pretty objectively bad i would’ve thought

[junior knot]

I didn't say it was "good" or "bad" I said that it depends on the individual. In the examples I said, willing sheltering military groups, or munitions I believe voids protections of civilians under the Geneva Convention hors de combat. At that point they could be seen as actively participating

[sick lantern]

no i’m pretty sure it’s always a crime to shoot at unarmed non-violent targets

[round sinew]

Let him be.

If he wants to commit war crimes, I'm more than willing to teach him what happens to war criminals.

[junior knot]

i'm pretty sure The laws of war prohibit direct attacks on civilian objects, like schools. They also prohibit direct attacks against hospitals and medical staff. That said, a hospital or school may become a legitimate military target if it contributes to specific military operations of the enemy and its destruction offers a definite military advantage for the attacking side.

[round sinew]

Well, it's also illegal to use a hospital to hide your military assets.

[sick lantern]

this has got to be a joke right

[cold bramble]

😉 everybody attacks civilians in the act of "war", including the united states

in fact the usa has the highest body count of civis

[round sinew]

I... Would need to see statistics on that claim.

[junior knot]

which is what i've been saying @round sinew

[cold bramble]

have fun researching ww2

[round sinew]

Mm. There's a nation that doesn't care about human shield casualties. I wouldn't necessarily say it's morally right or legal per the "rules".

[cold bramble]

ah that wasnt aimed at me

[round sinew]

I'm going to need a logic on how you came to this conclusion.

[junior knot]

...let me just....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio there ya go enjoy that rabbit hole of saddness

[cold bramble]

oh it was

[round sinew]

Do you... Know where civilian casualties came from in WW2?

[cold bramble]

Nuclear warheads

[round sinew]

That surprisingly killed relatively few people.

[sick lantern]

and also this little thing you might’ve heard of called “The Holocaust”

[round sinew]

Don't forget the famines in SEA.

Or the eastern front.

Or the meme of war in China.

[junior knot]

....yes but primarly ethnic cleansing.

so sad, can we talk about division again?

[cold bramble]

completely ignoring the original discussion

[round sinew]

^

[cold bramble]

so i'ma head out i've already said my peace

[round sinew]

^^

Yeah okay. Say straight up smooth brain shit and dip when you realize you're wrong.

[sick lantern]

he did that to me

[round sinew]

Angery

Hiroshima and Nagasaki had a death toll sub 1 million.

The famine just in Bengal due to WW2 is estimated to be between 2 and 3 million.

That's not counting the wartime famine anywhere else throughout SEA.

[sick lantern]

yea i’m aware of the US’ dodgy track record but it sure as hell didn’t start until 1945 (debatably)

[round sinew]

Even then, as far as straight numbers go, they're usually on the lighter side of the scale.

[cold bramble]

fortnite is a pretty nice game

[sick lantern]

...

[round sinew]

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

[cold bramble]

you wanted to talk off topic

no mans sky is pretty nice now as well tbh

[round sinew]

You're the one who brought us off topic

[cold bramble]

i do like bacon

[sick lantern]

well if we want to talk about the division and not war crimes

[round sinew]

We can talk about both, actually. Remember Keener being turned into a psychopath?

[sick lantern]

there’s a contaminated area in div 1 that needs its own Oxhorn video or something cus i couldn’t quite figure out the portrayed chain of events from the evidence

[round sinew]

I forgot Contaminated zones existed in D1

[sick lantern]

bruh

[cold bramble]

lmb did nothin wrong

[sick lantern]

They were literally fascists my dude

that’s pretty bad

[round sinew]

They're traitors to everyone including their own company.

[sick lantern]

i’d like to clarify that, you are proposing that the faction that openly displays Nazi-esque iconography did nothing wrong

[round sinew]

Says the US is the bad guy in WW2
Likes LMB
Likes Fortnite

I see a pattern forming.

[cold bramble]

the us isn't the only bad guy in ww2 while the us wasn't exactly the heroes they weren't the worst out there (cough cough germany cough cough)

[round sinew]

Bomber Harris do it again

[cold bramble]

everyone involved in ww2 did very questionable things except for I think france

didn't france just immediately surrender

[round sinew]

No.

[cold bramble]

oh ok

[round sinew]

Vichy France was occupied.

Going away from facts, though, the "goodest" were the Polish Resistance.

[cold bramble]

when it comes too war who isn't the bad guy really?

[round sinew]

The Polish Resistance.

[cold bramble]

though when it comes too horrid things in ww2 i have to say i think japan was one of the worst as they refused to sign the geneva convention and beheaded a lot of people

lmb suck but fortnite is ok just gets a bad rap from it's toxic af community

[round sinew]

The Rape of Nanking isn't called that because it was a good thing.

[cold bramble]

how so

[round sinew]

In roughest terms, the Japanese invaded China and essentially ethnically cleansed a city.

Men were killed, women were taken as sex slaves.

[cold bramble]

how is that a good thing?

[round sinew]

I didn't say it was.

[cold bramble]

you said it here

[round sinew]

Yeah.

[cold bramble]

how is that a good thing?

[round sinew]

It isn't called the Rape of Nanking because it was a good thing.

It isn't a good thing.

[cold bramble]

i think i misread it

[round sinew]

You did.

Ubisoft needs more ethnic cleansing in their games.

I would very much like to deal with a racial supremacist faction.

Easy bad guy.

[cold bramble]

can't do that cause twitter would cancel it

[round sinew]

Oh yeah they would never make that game and it's probably good they don't.

But, you know, I wanna kill some Nazis.

[sick lantern]

on one hand yea it would be a gripping story
on the other hand no because knowing ubisoft it’d probably be worse than MW2019

[round sinew]

What was wrong with MW2019?

[drifting lotus]

As far as it felt like.. it did a terrible job with the gray area.

[round sinew]

What grey area?

[drifting lotus]

Exactly.

[round sinew]

Terrorists bad.

[sick lantern]

but captain price also bad!!!

but not as bad!!

[round sinew]

I don't really want a game to try and be "well ackhshually ISIS is the good guys"

Price isn't bad, he's portrayed correctly as a loose cannon.

[sick lantern]

“we get dirty so the world stays clean”

[round sinew]

Yeah. That's pretty standard edgy good guy protagonist.

[sick lantern]

except that they failed to have him do anything that was bad

despite trying to imply a grey area, Price was portrayed as good and the villains as cartoonishly evil

[round sinew]

Well

Terrorists are cartoonishly evil irl

They strap bombs to children and destroy world heritage sites.

[sick lantern]

so have you not played the game? or have you just completely forgotten about the Russians cus that would say a lot about it

[round sinew]

Oh yah

100% forgot there was a whole Russian story

Yeah okay, fair enough

Didn't they use chemical weapons to wipe out a village?

[sick lantern]

yep

[round sinew]

Yeah. Russians are pretty brutal in war. But that's not really their MO.

[sick lantern]

and the scene where one soldier just goes full bloodlust for two kids, because ofc he does he’s a baddie!

[round sinew]

They at least Wait for civilians to be hostages first before they gas them lmao.

[gaunt ice]

Wow

Did not expect a history class on civvie kills in history

[outer sluice]

yeah i did not know what they were talkin bout lmao

[gaunt ice]

It was originally about harming civilians

Specifically Outcast,until some guy brought up ww2

[gaunt ice]

Close to immediate iirc?

[tepid ibex]

@gaunt ice I know a pretty cool bald guy.

[gaunt ice]

100% bald,not Bliss-bald?

[vernal shadow]

anyway... is it true that we'll receive another update after Faye?

[night lagoon]

mhm they are working on it

late of this year

[vernal shadow]

and will this be a paid expansion?

[unreal widget]

The only thing we know about it so far is that there will be something. Nothing else.

[vernal shadow]

ah okay thanks for the info

[sleek plover]

In season 5

we are fighting against the secret weapon of sokolov

the ninjapiratezombierobot

[cold bramble]

Mk.2 version 6

[digital hemlock]

The new boss could be some grandma or some sexy lady

[cold bramble]

Could be ANNA, just throw proxy agents at us making us believe its an actual person pulling the strings then, boom, fighting a massive AI through multiple seasons that will end with Div2 and be the start of Div3 in a post AI aware world.

If the virus wasnt bad enough.. self aware AI.

[gaunt ice]

This whole rerun just feel like when Hitman 2 slapped a sticker on all of the og gear and called it “MK2”

[cold bramble]

Progress transfer didnt exist till 3

[cold bramble]

Season 5 rerun is just your agent's fever dreams about past fights while actually bed ridden from DC-62 exposure

[willow current]

Or we got captured and put in a simulation, having to do it all over again for eternity

What probably is going to happen

[gaunt ice]

Wait really?

So if I buy H2 now,and I have the 2016 one,what do I do?

[gaunt ice]

Maybe it was all a dream?

[cold bramble]

only locations were transferable when 2 first released, mark 2 items were so people could get good equipment back faster

[gaunt ice]

So,h2 will have 2016 location but no gear?

[cold bramble]

ya

[gaunt ice]

Dang

I still can’t get over pushing someone into a trap door that’s 5 feet to the water instantly kill them

[sick lantern]

maybe she hits her head and drowns cus of it

[gaunt ice]

Everyone at Haven have their skull as strong as cardboard?

[sick lantern]

cus of the shock or something

[gaunt ice]

Or how Sean Bean flexes about survived a fall to the bush,only to die TWICE the same way

[cold bramble]

tbh a person can die in a puddle if they are knocked out and they happen to faceplant into the water

via drowning

[gaunt ice]

I mean,you get knocked out from a 5 feet fall?

Everyone at the most luxurious resort in the world?

Anyway,we’re getting off-tracked

How’s your new season then?

[cold bramble]

busy getting my pc acc up to snuff

[cold bramble]

life is pain

i permanently have 8 pings

[gaunt ice]

8?how is that bad?

[green plume]

Really complaining about 8 ping '-'

[lilac mason]

So much humble brag energy from this one

[sleek plover]

hey old sports

damn i hate lmb

[gaunt ice]

damm,who is this lmb guy that gets hated so much?

[reef kiln]

What do i do when i got all summit ridgeway parts?

[sick lantern]

fuck knows this is the place for lore discussion is it not

[reef kiln]

Oh, thought it was spoilers

[outer sluice]

mane he want that 0 ping so he can shit on some poor 30 ping kids 😭

[round sinew]

My ping looks like it was on my Christmas list and I was a good boy so Santa gave me extra

My ping looks like I flirted with the lunch lady to get seconds

My ping looks like the party pack from taco bell

[hearty spindle]

What if the first wave didn't go rogue?

And they succeed.

[sick lantern]

then NYC would’ve been in a much better state

probably something akin to what we see happen would happen, but with the First Wave doing what we did instead

[dusk dove]

I mean, the reason they failed, wasn’t their fault 😛 their entire support pulled out and left them.

after that happened, they snapped.

[hearty spindle]

Is there a possible Third Wave?

[cold bramble]

Doubtful, all future agents seem to be just "activated" but not in mass waves (us players)

[dusk dove]

^^

In a sense, the 3rd wave already has been activated (agents after us the players). Its just they weren’t in a wave.

[sick lantern]

the JTF were still around after they left the Dark Zone, if rogue agents didn’t put knives in their back then the city would’ve been in a much better state than what we saw regardless

[dusk dove]

Yes, BUT agents were ordered to stay and deal with dark zone, but with zero support since it all pulled out. Again not the agents fault, its entirely leadership at fault.

[hearty spindle]

And that's why most rogue agents gone rogue and think of a better solution.

[cold bramble]

(Keener has entered the Chat)

[hearty spindle]

(But everyone in this room has scorpio shotgun.)

[cold bramble]

I dont 😞

le sigh

[sick lantern]

since when were they “ordered to stay”?

[dusk dove]

When the support pulled out. theres coms in game going over it.

Forgot the people speaking but was TLDR : JTF talking to agent about not sending support because they are pulling out and agent saying, well we need help and cant leave otherwise we are marked rogue. comes from NY DLC.

[sick lantern]

“comes from NY DLC” welp there’s the problem

[drifting lotus]

If I remember right, Civilians caught in the mayhem were still priority for Division Agents. If they retreated with the JTF, they would be violating their directive under the division and be marked as Rogue.

[dusk dove]

i mean, youre not wrong BUT thats the current lore we got 🤣 @sick lantern

[dusk dove]

Yea that sounds familiar

[sick lantern]

like i’ve said, being marked Rogue in this case really shouldn’t be a problem...

[drifting lotus]

Thats why the JTF pulling out was the worst thing to happen... it created a catch 22 for every single First Wave division agent that was there.

[dusk dove]

Yup that ^^

[drifting lotus]

As much as its silly and unethical for Kajika to be pissed off about it happening, it wasn't without reason... it isn't difficult to harbor hatred for people that actually left you to fend for yourself

[dusk dove]

Yup

[sick lantern]

which is why you join a criminal gang that murders the innocent 😃

[drifting lotus]

Well, Kajika was in disagreement with having the cleaners anywhere near him to begin with... Keener really does have a sly tongue.

[sick lantern]

almost as if Aaron Keener is someone you shouldn’t work with

[drifting lotus]

Is he? I dunno... if hes able to convince people to his cause, thats a pretty difficult statement to follow if you aren't already dedicated to your own cause.

[sick lantern]

considering his plans are to unleash viruses to indiscriminately kill people, i know i wouldn’t want to be beside him

[drifting lotus]

Thats implying that you knew it was even happening.

[dusk dove]

I mean being honest he snapped but the reason he snapped was because of leadership forcing them to go Rogue

[drifting lotus]

at the time keener talks to them about helping to further each one of their goals.

[sick lantern]

he was always egocentric even before the outbreak (“always sees himself as the smartest in the room”), all that happened was he saw an opportunity to seize power and he took it

[dusk dove]

Sure for keener, but not for all rogue agents.

But still loops back to "leadership is at fault".

[sick lantern]

No, it loops back to Rogue Agents being massive dickheads. Even when Rogue they don’t try to do good

[cold bramble]

guys, the first wave not going rogue is asking for the impossible, the JTF not being incompetent

literally impossible task

[drifting lotus]

impossible for the right reasons honestly... most people in the JTF aren't used to containing Humans.

[round sinew]

"Boohoo 1st wave had no support"

Literally the entire training regime for SHD is to fight without support.

[sick lantern]

haha yea

[drifting lotus]

You right, my sheriff fights alone, everyone that joins my party is just me moving really really fast.

[sick lantern]

i’m just saying, Doug Sutton didn’t have a problem going one man army when his friends died

[drifting lotus]

I mean, neither do I. But assuming that everyone thinks the same way as I do is.... not exactly healthy.

[gaunt ice]

comes into a room
kills everyone
doesn’t elaborate
dies
leave

[sick lantern]

basically Keener in Div 2

[round sinew]

Yeah for real.

[vivid inlet]

Keener in a nutshell

[gaunt ice]

Keener can be made by replacing “doesn’t elaborate” with “edgy 14 years old elaboration”

[cold bramble]

They ruined his character tbh

[gaunt ice]

You do know that real world scenarios can alter much different compared to training right?

[round sinew]

Yes.

That doesn't change the fact they were told "you'll be activated and likely do things on your own with no support except for SHD"

1st wave is activated and gets no support
1st wave gets mad

Not sure what they expected.

[digital hemlock]

Faye Lau knows this.

But it could be because they hired the wrong ppl.

[round sinew]

They 100% did and I don't think that was an accident

I've had a theory for a while SHD was set up to fail.

Filled with personnel that was either compromised, incompetent, or unstable.

Given vulnerabilities in their equipment.

[digital hemlock]

Not all, but from some of the recordings apparently they looking for obsessive people.

Or self-absorbed ones.

[round sinew]

And purposely made to fall apart.

[digital hemlock]

Maybe

[round sinew]

Also don't forget the casual corruption with Sokolov getting to be a SHD agent. Totally a coincidence, I'm sure.

[digital hemlock]

They were looking with people with Tenacity, they were looking for Heroes.

I guess, the test is the deal

It just some amptitude tests and interviews.

The real test is the dollar flu

[round sinew]

Also the recruiters seem pretty lazy or compromised

The audio logs imply as much

[digital hemlock]

They don't know exactly what is the contingency

Black Tusks do, but they also hire wrong people haha

This game has some things against HR

Then against Shaeffer also have problems hiring.

Oh well

[gaunt ice]

#562959341833945098 message

Where can I find this?

[cold bramble]

isn't that the ww2 bunker? prolly wrong

[sick lantern]

if that’s the case, then why is the Second Wave (and whoever it is we play in Div 2) so competent? (besides plot armour)

[cold bramble]

You shouldn't compare npcs to us, faye lau/kelso being an acception, most of them are just normal people that can drop dead from one bullet, we have so many examples of shd dying fairly ez when its just npc

[sick lantern]

that’s plot armour, is there no lore explanation as to why we get work done but others don’t

[cold bramble]

the power level scale is unusable because of that

personally i just accept it as my agent being lucky af, while my div 1 sw agent is certainly dead

7 months is a pretty long time walking through hell

🙂

[sick lantern]

i choose to believe that Div 1 agents are still just vibing in the quarantine

[gaunt ice]

I guess for every 100-200 incompetent people,there’s that one guy who excels in everything but is unable to talk like that one Asian kid in class

[gloomy sand]

most smart people lack good communication skills

stutters/low charisma

is a common trait with ppl who are actually intelligent

they gotta train it and dont have naturally good charisma like everyone else

for every good thing there's a bad

[round sinew]

I think we need a Division game with a PC that talks, or has some personality.

Hell, even Homefront gave the silent protagonist a personality without any voice lines.

[sick lantern]

we do need a spinoff so they can tell a proper story that’s not held back by RPG/looter mechanics

the characters we play can’t talk cus they’re nameless rpg guys

[gaunt ice]

I don’t think our guy lack communication skills,I think he/she’s just muted

[spare arrow]

forgot to turn off push to talk

[gaunt ice]

Same thing happened with me every time I play csgo

[round sinew]

I like to think they're a mindless sociopath

The PC isn't there for SHD.

He's there because he's been given the ability to be judge, jury, and executioner to sate his endless bloodlust.

He didn't kill keener to save the world. He killed keener because he wanted a challenge and enjoyed killing him.

[cold bramble]

being a mute fits the roleplaying aspect, the only voice that should matter is yours otherwise there is no point in having a blank slate character

before it gets brought up, destiny sucks, that is all

[sick lantern]

true

[round sinew]

Nah, it's an interesting lore

It's kooky

[cold bramble]

that's definitely a twist too what we thought and it kinda fits the slate shown in the first and second game

[sick lantern]

i prefer my space sci-fi to have a few less humans in it

[round sinew]

What sci-fi has no humans?

[sick lantern]

not none, but less

[round sinew]

What sci-fi has less?

[sick lantern]

the playable races in destiny are humans, robots that act like human and look like humans, and the awaken who are just people with white skin

[round sinew]

Ah, so you just mean anything that isn't human. Yeah okay, fair enough.

[sick lantern]

like in star wars you have the likes of sullastans and wookiees and shit... i just prefer sci-fi to be more out there

when you have aliens you should go all in or not at all really

(not that star wars is too much better of course, the main players are always human)

[gaunt ice]

so at a point,he will try to rogue and blast his way out of Boo?

just for a challenge?

[sick lantern]

that’s certainly one way of interpreting the character

[cold bramble]

*they

not all agents are male

[gaunt ice]

W E

for gender equality of course

[cold bramble]

we they either way it'd be a interesting twist

[gaunt ice]

and to spread communism

[cold bramble]

you mean >Agent

[gaunt ice]

yeah

[cold bramble]

and faye isn't dead meaning we killed an innocent

it's unisex smh

possibly

[sick lantern]

unlikely

[cold bramble]

though not really cause they killed the prez

[gaunt ice]

she better be

[cold bramble]

end of every manhunt mission prior rogue agent deceased and a cutscene end of faye manhunt mission completed

no rogue agent deceased no cutscene

no nothing to confirm the person we just killed was in fact faye lau

[sick lantern]

probably cus there was supposed to be no future content, and the planned ending cutscene then would’ve contradicted the future ending

[gaunt ice]

i really hope thats just lazy work

[cold bramble]

i think it's leading up to a third game/second dlc

[sick lantern]

d-d-d-doubt

with Avatar and Star Wars games on the way

[gaunt ice]

because i swear,she'll get the crowbar treatment

the same one robin got?

[cold bramble]

disobeying your commanding officer gets you sent to mars

[gaunt ice]

she's a dumbass anyways

[gaunt ice]

cool,ill join Elon Musk

[cold bramble]

tbh i think it'd be pretty cool if they added a dlc called protocol activated where we instead of killing faye go rogue and help her

[cold bramble]

it'll be 100 years before you see him with his cut in funding

[gaunt ice]

exactly

[cold bramble]

but hey that's just a theory a game theory

[cold bramble]

it's possible, we knew everything by the time we encounter her

[sick lantern]

couldn’t she have just surrendered
or better yet help us fight the black tusk

[gaunt ice]

My headcanon is that she gets in the helo in last second,only for you to blow it with your specs weapon

Since there’s no cutscenes,that’s how it could’ve played out

[cold bramble]

What do you think that cutscene that was shown in the trailer was for kek

[gaunt ice]

And she’ll come back with a robo leg and hand,essentially Raiden but Chinese

[cold bramble]

hey i'm at least happy that they didn't make a third person try to blow up the white house

[sick lantern]

||and not as cute||

[cold bramble]

raiden?

[gaunt ice]

Main character in a MGS spinoff that’s like Dark Souls but,ya know,robots

[cold bramble]

aight

[sick lantern]

and main character in MGS2

[gaunt ice]

I thought there’s only one?

[cold bramble]

one of the raid bosses tries too blow up the white house

[sick lantern]

the one people whinged about because he’s not Solid Snake ||but then his presence is part of the S3 Plan plot twist which was a pretty alright plot twist||

[cold bramble]

tbh from looking into the lore i'm starting to question whether or not we are the good guys

[sick lantern]

Considering what we fight for and who we fight against. I’d say we’re pretty clearly the good guys

[cold bramble]

we are fighting to restore a government that's corrupt af when most of the country is dead at the end of the day who cares about morals anymore?

[gaunt ice]

People like you is why the country in the game fall

[cold bramble]

kelso even openly admits we commit war crimes

[sick lantern]

the greater good is more important than not committing war crimes against bad people

[cold bramble]

tbh, the moment settlements came into existence and became self-reliant we should've deactivated

i'm not saying we are the only bad guy but i'm saying we aren't exactly the best person out there

[cold bramble]

agreed

[sick lantern]

we’re the best of what’s available or indeed still alive

[gaunt ice]

Still,a helping hand is still good

[cold bramble]

the antivirals in DC weren't needed, there are people still in NY working on it

[sick lantern]

we have a legal and moral duty to help them any way we can

[gaunt ice]

Remember when Keener showed everyone what’s in the canister?

[cold bramble]

once we disabled the strongholds it should've been game the enemy forces are crippled or decomposed the civilians can handle themselves and most of the more dangerous enemies are defeated there isn't much more for us too do

i'm sure without leaders the factions would eventually fight themselves to extinction

[gaunt ice]

I’m kinda sure that the moment we retire,Tusk is gonna drop like 2 squads into Campus and they’ll be wiped faster than Castle

[cold bramble]

remember when he only attacked SHD and their allies? if we deactivated the canister wouldn't of existed

what canister?

eclipse

is this about the original?

oh ok

warlords at this point

[sick lantern]

No there was plenty more for us to do. Our mission isn’t over until the average person doesn’t have to forage for food and doesn’t worry about roaming gangs of criminals, doesn’t have to worry about dieing of a disease

[gaunt ice]

But without us,Kandel wouldn’t got what she needed to do research

[cold bramble]

i thought their were spoilers for the original

[gaunt ice]

Woah slow down mate,made a typo there

[cold bramble]

that was before the settlements stablized

[sick lantern]

how tf do you spell “dieing” lmao

[cold bramble]

we have the materials to mass produce the cure just not the manpower and no matter what we do we'll have to worry about street thugs forever

you think she needed the research in dc? is that the point of what you are trying to say? then idk

[gaunt ice]

Then again,us existing is the reason we have the cure,but also the reason WoNY is a thing

[cold bramble]

true

[gaunt ice]

I mean,would you wait 7 months for some random chick in dc to find it with her tinfoil theory?

[sick lantern]

we can’t be deactivated until some form of society exists on a wider scale, which is when we won’t have to worry about thugs, starvation or disease

[gaunt ice]

Besides,who can deactivate us?

No more president,no more council

[cold bramble]

that's the whole point of my argument when will we know we haven't gone too far as this point we'll have to stay active forever for fear of what will happen when we are deactivated

[gaunt ice]

Maybe when the battery runs off idk

Away for now,see you beautiful people later

[cold bramble]

the agents should've tried to be more like the hunters secretive with little to nothing known about them making it so we can destabilize the hostiles without drawing attention

[sick lantern]

can’t do that, gotta help the JTF

[cold bramble]

can still not draw attention while helping jtf suppressors exist for a reason

[gaunt ice]

One more:
“Oh who’s that guy with the cool ass orange watch?”

[cold bramble]

hide the watch

[gaunt ice]

Be ready for friendly fire

[cold bramble]

only the jtf and fellow agents should know we exist

[sick lantern]

nah not really

[cold bramble]

i'm sure the hunters have allies we don't know about

[gaunt ice]

It’s kinda something brought up in Marvel’s Civil War

[sick lantern]

it’s not our job to work from the shadows
we have to show that we’re for the people and of the people
we have to inspire hope

[gaunt ice]

That if you’re under direct control of an organization,you can’t always be there to help someone?

[cold bramble]

why would they fire on us if we give them no reason too?

[gaunt ice]

Mistaken for hostile

[cold bramble]

they just watched us drop a squad of hostiles that could've been extremely more powerful than them why pick a fight when you don't know what they are capable of?

[sick lantern]

fog of war dude
if it was the apocalypse and gangs roaming the streets, wouldn’t you be spooked by a random person decked out in gear with a rifle

[cold bramble]

the only reason people knew about the watch was because of benitez and the radio guy spreading information OMEGALUL

[sick lantern]

benitez, the leader of the JTF who the SHD work in tandem with almost 100 percent of the time

[cold bramble]

then maybe just have benitez give them a briefing on us so they don't try to kill us

try to spread as little info about us as possible so the enemy doesn't know what to expect allowing us to effectively destabilize them

[gaunt ice]

Even without Benitez,people will start questioning why are there people roaming around in orange/red watches,killing bad guys and helping us?

[cold bramble]

roam building tops

[gaunt ice]

Rumors that in the foggy snow storm of NYC,an orange lights passes through,and like that,a lmb post is wiped out

[gaunt ice]

Not everyone is a sniper you know

Wait I just got too Hitman there,pardon me

[cold bramble]

who said you had to use a sniper you could just hide in the shadows and quickly and effectively neutralize them

[sick lantern]

you know how random people come up to us in the street and ask for help? doubt that would happen if they didn’t know who we are. we’re not crazy SAS level troopers, we have to lead people to a better situation, and hiding our identities/allegiances directly hinders that

[cold bramble]

that'd be pretty dang cool and strike fear in the hearts of the other factions

[cold bramble]

honestly that sounds like a better game concept

[cold bramble]

it may hinder that aspect but it makes it a lot less likely for enemies with miniguns and riot armor to roam the streets

[gaunt ice]

And also,our work is suppose to give hope

How are we suppose to spread the message if no one knows about us?

[sick lantern]

you’re saying that hostile factions roam the streets for the sole reason that they want to fight SHD agents? doubt

[gaunt ice]

No,we’re there to stop them

[cold bramble]

not saying that but i'm saying that in late game you notice that enemies make themselves a lot more prepared to kill shd agents

[sick lantern]

meant to reply to LMG

[sick lantern]

well then they’ll target civilians less cus they know it’ll get them heat from us

[gaunt ice]

Because we are a real and serious threat?

[cold bramble]

instead of that happening their leader is found dead with no warning and they fear for what could've so quickly and silently killed the leader

wait that'd have the same end wouldn't it?

[sick lantern]

or we kick down the door and make a show that we’re not to be messed with, that even one agent can eliminate a compound full of baddies

[gaunt ice]

So you’re implying that NYC can just hire 47 to do the job

That’s for lmg

[cold bramble]

tbh, ghosts would've made the battles end much quicker then we would've

they are even trained to handle technology recovery like we are

[cold bramble]

sometimes the flashy display isn't the one most needed but rather the subtle approach that effectively wipes the big fish leaving the guppies too fear for their lives

[gaunt ice]

I don’t think they specialize in urban combat

And also,against all odds?

[sick lantern]

or wipe em all, that’ll put the fear of god in whoever’s left or finds the bodies

[cold bramble]

once we kill the leaders and let them mostly destabilize each other we can finish off what remains

[sick lantern]

that’s what we do anyway

[gaunt ice]

That would take more effort

[sick lantern]

but we leave so much less to chance

[gaunt ice]

Lmg

[cold bramble]

i agree with kirby sure it'd take more effort but it would leave a lot less too chance as that's what most encounters are just pure chance

would you rather put little too no effort in and have a 15% chance of victory or put a lot more effort in and have a 95% chance of victory

[gaunt ice]

No “chances” can get you out of that 2 gold lmb mg guys in that basement

[sick lantern]

extremis malis, my dude
fighting against the odds is what we do best

[cold bramble]

that entire mission was just pure chance for me i had mostly lvl 15-17 gear

and it took forever where as had i waited till i had really powerful gear i could've insta-wiped everything

or almost

[gaunt ice]

You aren’t suppose to do that mission at such low levels lol

[cold bramble]

i was lvl 23

*am

[gaunt ice]

Why would you use lvl 17 gear against lvl 23 chumps?

[cold bramble]

they were lvl 20

and i couldn't find all that good gear

[gaunt ice]

Still overpowered your gear

[cold bramble]

so when i get on today imma farm the hospital mission for gear and xp

so i can get money to buy gear from the advanced weaponry vendor

[sick lantern]

if you it on hard it’ll boost the enemies and therefore loot drops to your level

[cold bramble]

kirby since you play on xbox would you be up too farm hospital with me?

[sick lantern]

also snipe Hutch before jumps down for an extra loot chance (;

[cold bramble]

prolly just gonna put on some music and farm till 30 put on my house then farm till i can get not super shitty gear

[sick lantern]

well the XP gain would be big but the loot would be over level for you

[cold bramble]

you can edit a message to turn it into a reply

i'm fine with over lvled gear just want to use my house

[sick lantern]

are you sure you don’t want to level on your own?

[cold bramble]

i'll just solo farm with music i'm sure i can quick farm

if i farm normal will the enemies be lvl 8?

[sick lantern]

yea the enemies are only boosted to your level on hard

[cold bramble]

aight so i can just turbo farm normal for some quick gear/xp and just sell everything once my inv is full

just tryna buy gear from the vendors that is better than what i have

[sick lantern]

man we got off topic

so the end of Russian Consulate is roughly a thirty second walk to the start of General Assembly, so why did the LMB need a chopper to extract Tchernenko?

[cold bramble]

cause they just need to be that little bit extra

[sick lantern]

also fun fact did you know, Raptor and Domino are incorrectly marked as PMC contractors in the echo in General Assembly

[cold bramble]

i've never got their yet i have no clue what you are talking about

[sick lantern]

uh sorry for the minor spoilers

[cold bramble]

nah i don't care about collectible spoilers just so long as you don't spoil anything big like i.e. saying that faye goes rogue to an agent that just started the second game

[sick lantern]

faye lau does whaaaat

[cold bramble]

we have been openly chatting about it in what is the #division-universe channel

if you chat in game spoilers expect to hear spoilers

[sick lantern]

nah don’t worry i already knew lol

[cold bramble]

tbh didn't really care if you didn't as we are in the spoilers channel

[sick lantern]

can’t believe you’d disrespect me like this smh

[cold bramble]

it's not that i disrespect you it's that i don't have much patience for people that want to experience the game for what it is but roam the spoilers channel

[sick lantern]

me neither

[cold bramble]

i don't care for spoilers myself, i have the mindset of "it doesn't matter till i experience the game myself" the story holds up for me that way, helps dealing with not being able to buy everything i'm interested in

[round sinew]

I miss Rivens.

[cold bramble]

what did happen to riven?

[cold bramble]

i didn't even realize riven disappeared till you said something

[sick lantern]

maybe they should pull an Infamous 2/Arma 3 either in this game or the next, add a non-canon expansion with more fantastical elements

[cold bramble]

maybe

[round sinew]

Infamous 2 DLC is canon

Prove me wrong

[sick lantern]

don’t want to

arma 3 dlc happens four years after the rest of the game so it could be canon 👀

and indeed it should be canon cus it’s one of the least lame alien “invasion” stories i’ve seen

[sick lantern]

so many of them have the aliens just be cartoonishly evil or just don’t explain their actions with any reasonable excuse

but this is getting off topic again

[sick lantern]

shit who does the Midas quote? was it Sutton?

i forgot

it is

how sad

[sick lantern]

i think that’s the only exotic, at least in Div 1, that actually reflects on meaningful events in the plot

semi meaningful at least

[cold bramble]

tbh the midas talent seems useless af

[sick lantern]

yea it’s not great

[drifting lotus]

it used to be

Tales of people using back to back security links because you could crit the cooldown off in 10 seconds.

[sick lantern]

i can’t remember what the pre rework Exotics and Gear Sets did, i didn’t play enough

even my favoured weapon (at the time) the Pakhan

[gaunt ice]

Aussie internet sucks

[gaunt ice]

I mean,if they were gonna walk we could’ve just either chase them or send a team of agents after them

[sick lantern]

tru

maybe the excuse could’ve been that the boss is buying them time

[gaunt ice]

Again,Hornet is a piece of cake,and you can still catch up with them

[sick lantern]

Hornet’s a rogue agent so yaknow it’s the thought that counts

you get my point

[gaunt ice]

You know,maybe that’s a good idea

You shoot a helo out of commission,forcing them to evacuate by foot

Then you can chase them,and maybe fight a rogue squad while they get on a convoy

Just when you got all of them,they yeet Vitaly into a truck and drives away

[sick lantern]

considering these are looter shooters, there should be an option to extend (some) missions by doing something like that and therefore fight more enemies for more loot

[gaunt ice]

Maybe it can be triggered by shooting a sticky onto the helo

[sick lantern]

sniping Hutch in Madison spawns an extra enemy so

it’s not like the idea wasn’t around

[cold bramble]

what enemy does it spawn is it random or some sort of other named?

[sick lantern]

just another golden Heavy Gunner

[cold bramble]

gold or named?

[sick lantern]

not named

nothing in the game spawns abnormal named enemies sadly

like, there’s a Rogue Agent on the radio in Falcon Lost who spawns later, but they didn’t give her a name? they were a bit stingy with named enemies sometimes

[cold bramble]

falcon lost?

[sick lantern]

the first Incursion

[cold bramble]

incursion?

[sick lantern]

like mini raids

[cold bramble]

Hmm, what kind of activity would you count as that, what about The Agony in Manning Zoo?

[digital hemlock]

The beard>

[sleek plover]

damn i hate lmb

[sick lantern]

nothing in Div 1 which we were talking about

[cold bramble]

Oh yeah, my bad

[knotty prawn]

Sweden?

[ashen jungle]

You can see why they were confused, since this is Div2 Spoilers talk.

[sick lantern]

this guy out here just asking “Sweden?” in three different channels

[gaunt ice]

oh mAH GOD ITS YOU

YOU FINALLY CAME BACK

[ashen jungle]

Lol hey, yeah been a hot minute.

[gaunt ice]

hows your hand?you ate it out of boredom yet?

[ashen jungle]

Just had a lot on my plate, but wrong channel methinks.

[tiny wraith]

@ashen jungle good morning

[sleek plover]

wait div3 is at sweden?

[sick lantern]

Massive is based out of Sweden

i sincerely doubt that Division 3 would be set there though

[tiny wraith]

I could see London, Moscow, Beijing

[sick lantern]

please not London
Beijing would probably be too topical

[cold bramble]

You guys know with the death of ellis, it gives us no reason to go outside of the usa, and the shd is an united states only government agency so any mirrors of the agency would just make it an spinoff

could see merging with the cia though because of what we know

still no overseas shd like people want though

[sick lantern]

if we merge with the CIA then the SHD will definitely be the bad guys lol

[gaunt ice]

Florida

fight thugs with akimbo smg and shotgun while using a skateboard to rush and circle around you

[sick lantern]

only if there's gators

[gaunt ice]

and then theres black tusk in florida that calls themselves Flo Tusk,that uses literally Florium as a weapon

[sick lantern]

"ROgue agents, every one of them, basically sound like whiny brat kids, something didnt go their way and now they wanna kill everyone......." this random youtube commenter gets it

[gaunt ice]

Still,with a bit more of sympathetic before and now zero

[round sinew]

Fuck Rogue agents.

[sick lantern]

^

[round sinew]

Especially Dusk

[sick lantern]

she sure does love riot foam it seems

[round sinew]

Because she's kinky

Damn right I'll simp for a minor, insignificant video game character.

I will, I am, and it's Dusk.

Wait

Wrong agent

[sick lantern]

lmao

[round sinew]

Which one was the one that worked with the Hyenas and got stood up by Schaeffer?

I'm a bad simp

[gaunt ice]

Wraith?

[round sinew]

Might be.

[ashen jungle]

Hey Saph, how's it going?

[willow current]

That's wraith, yes

[gaunt ice]

Checked it,can confirm

[tiny wraith]

@ashen jungle doing great and yourself

[ashen jungle]

terrible, but trying out other games so it's not all bad.

[sick lantern]

i'm borrrrredd does anyone want to talk about lore

[round sinew]

Play MC or NMS or another "get lost for 10 hours" game.

[sick lantern]

i dont own minecraft

[round sinew]

I use to. Don't know if I do anymore

[drifting lotus]

"Oh you're finally awake."

[sleek plover]

damn i hate lmb

[cold bramble]

cool though lmb dont exist in this game

[steel radish]

I misinterpreted those first few words

[cold bramble]

those first few words could definitely have been better

[spark canopy]

Cropping intensifies

[sleek plover]

they live on among black tusks

enemies of divine freedom.must be purged

[cold bramble]

oh fuck off with ye

[round sinew]

[cold bramble]

Rogue agent deceased

[round sinew]

Guys it's okay, Wraith was 29.

My mommy dom goth girl gf rogue agent is just a minor character, not a minor character.

[cold bramble]

wraith what manhunt is she?

[round sinew]

Schaeffer's

[cold bramble]

ah aight

[gaunt ice]

sup

[cold bramble]

just chatting

[sleek plover]

hey

its that random it guy!

files complaint

[steel radish]

Romulus the gift that keeps on giving

[round sinew]

You're welcome

Ubisoft has literally burnt my soul from my body. I'm an empty husk now.

[gaunt ice]

you getting crashes?

or is it just pc?

[sacred pawn]

yeah

it crash every 2 minuts

stupid game stupid ubisoft

[cold bramble]

Spoiler alert, wrong company

[sick lantern]

please please, let’s keep this channel to story discussions and stuff

it’s dead enough anyway so let’s not clog it up

[round sinew]

Nah, still right company.

[cold bramble]

publisher =/= developer smh

subsidiary is still a different company

[sick lantern]

publishers do be having a significant amount of creative control doe

[cold bramble]

true

[round sinew]

Massive has been a wholly owned Ubisoft studio for years.

[sick lantern]

you know Evolve? that wasn’t even the game the devs wanted to make but they couldn’t find a publisher

[round sinew]

It's on the same level as any other Ubisoft studio. RSE, Montreal, Paris, Quebec, etc.

It's why Massive is making IPs that Ubisoft owns.

Just call it Ubisoft Sweden. It's the same thing.

Publisher =/= Developer only when the developer isn't entirely owned by the publisher as an in-house studio.

[sacred pawn]

and that's how to ruin the game without a maintenance

[round sinew]

At least we have maintenance

[south apex]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/mblnhl/crash_golden_bullet_broke_the_game_23032021/

upvote and wait

[cold bramble]

downvote and wait? alright

[sick lantern]

i hate to be that guy but this channel is kinda dead so can we please keep it on topic 😢

[sinful bane]

faye lau goes rogue

[sick lantern]

why

can’t believe she’d do this shaking my smh

[spare arrow]

shaking my smh my head

[sick lantern]

why keener doesn’t use urban mdr? i demand answers @Ubisoft

[spare arrow]

cause lmao why dont u use urban mdr

[round sinew]

Why u make keener bad character design @MSV

[cold bramble]

kinda find it weird myself he went from someone who was quote on quote winning to a hobo

[drifting lotus]

Were all hobos now

[sick lantern]

he went from “i’m gonna threaten the whole world with new viral outbreaks” to “lmao neurotoxins are cool”

maybe he was using an MDR and he wanted to use eclipse to trigger the damage bonus 🤔

[cold bramble]

Not sure if the right channel (but seems like spoiler warning if answered) but I have 5/8 "Profiles: Civilians" in my Collectibles > Database, who/where are the remaining three?

[cold bramble]

can't be answered if we don't know who you have

[cold bramble]

sounds like you are missing coms from the base game

prolly missed the ones from the dz

involving shay

[willow current]

Shay comms if I'm correct

[cold bramble]

Ah yeah, definitely DZ since I've only been there once in TD2 for some discovery mission, thanks!

[willow current]

Shay comms are found in the LZ

[sleek plover]

damn i hate lmb

[sleek plover]

Hello.

i dont appreciate u guys preying on the weak

but as long as u oppose lmb u r good in my book

[gaunt ice]

She died,so I think it’s ok?

[sleek cobalt]

Spoiler Alert Game doesnt work

[cold bramble]

spoiler alert git rekt

[bold flint]

Spoiler Alert Welcome to the Division Franchise

[cold bramble]

Where the playerbase treats anything the developer does as a crime against humanity

[woeful wharf]

spoiler alert dont play ghost recon breakpoint if you love wildlands

[cold bramble]

no it's just a few asshats that come out of their caves to spout horse shit

[spark canopy]

What kinda of caves though?

[sick lantern]

dark caves of smooth stone

[coarse surge]

[frosty kestrel]

Spoiler alert Game still doesnt work on pc

[gaunt ice]

\

[sick lantern]

please don’t start that here too

i beg

[cold bramble]

I agree with kirby keep that shit outta here we don't need that drama

the div works on pc

[round sinew]

Spoiler Alert: There is no spoiler, now give me your socks and show me your feet.

[sick lantern]

😳

no

[round sinew]

This wasn't a request.

🔫

[frosty kestrel]

Kinda sus lmao

[cold bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/pedicure-bad-gif-14875325

[round sinew]

I'm not clicking whatever that is

[cold bramble]

it's a gif if you want i'll dm you it

[round sinew]

No.

[cold bramble]

ok

[gaunt ice]

lesson learned:95% of what Romulus said should be taken seriously,cuz he doesnt look like someone who likes sarcasm

[sleek plover]

damn i hate lmb

[cold bramble]

I feel attacked

[round sinew]

Death to 1X Robots!

[sick lantern]

(i don’t get it)

[cold bramble]

nobody gives a single fuck

[thorn vessel]

So wait, now we have two AI's?

[cold bramble]

what I am not an ai?

[thorn vessel]

I meant Anna and ISAC

[cold bramble]

anna is the rogue AI

[thorn vessel]

right, which we get the watch after WoNY

[cold bramble]

yep

and isac overrides anna's protocols

[thorn vessel]

I'm hoping for some sort of banter between the two as they argue over which protocol to use

[cold bramble]

isac immediately overrides anna's protocols

[thorn vessel]

then how did the division's network get turned into the rogue network?

[sick lantern]

it didn’t it’s a different network

[cold bramble]

keener created anna

[thorn vessel]

...oh

[cold bramble]

as the rogue counter part too isac

[thorn vessel]

I see now

[cold bramble]

yep it has the same workings as isac but counts shd as enemies

[sleek plover]

when the beating of the heart echoes the beating of the drums.
There is a life about to start when tomorrow comes.

[round sinew]

"Sir, the prisoner is singing."
"How nice. Please face the wall."

[sick lantern]

“when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie- BANG”

[sick lantern]

Wrong channel.

Are you a troll? Knock it off.

[gaunt ice]

That’s kinda his way of saying “hi”

Yeah it’s weird,but you’ll get used to it

[cold bramble]

aight

[sleek plover]

only the divine truth of freedom shall remain, humanity will find salvation in anarchy

[spare arrow]

huamnity

[gaunt ice]

Reject humanity,return to huamnity

[cold bramble]

lol

[vivid inlet]

No, we must return to monke

[cold bramble]

reject monke become crab

[vivid inlet]

Reject crab return to microorganism

[cold bramble]

reject microorganism become single celled life

[vivid inlet]

Reject single celled life become volcanic planet

[cold bramble]

lmao what are we doing

reject volcanic plant become rock

[spare arrow]

Backwards big bang song, i guess.

[vivid inlet]

Reject rock become big explosion

[sick lantern]

reject big explosion become metaphysical concepts

[vivid inlet]

Reject whatever you said become space

[cold bramble]

reject space become supernova

[vivid inlet]

reject supernova become the fact that we will eventually get muted by Aspect if we continue

[gaunt ice]

reject "reject" memes,return to "this is perfect,but i love this" meme

or spoiler chat,like its always has been

[cold bramble]

aight

[vivid inlet]

Does anyone think Aaron Keener is possibly not dead

[sick lantern]

If he comes back too, that would be incredibly lame

[vivid inlet]

Maybe not coming back just like working in the sidelines cause all his injuries

[gaunt ice]

there are things that are sure great if they werent dead

but definitely not Keener,atleast not WoNY one

the div1 guy is cool

[vivid inlet]

The old Keener you mean

[sick lantern]

the real Keener

[cold bramble]

in div2 they took some of the big characters from the original and ruined them

[sick lantern]

very true

[cold bramble]

like faye they threw her ideologies out the window

everyone thought kelso was going to go rogue

it's just stupid

[gaunt ice]

tbf she did give that vibe out

but yeah,agreed on the rest

[cold bramble]

tbf?

[sick lantern]

to be fair

[cold bramble]

ah aight

aight?

[sick lantern]

"a'ight"= alright

[cold bramble]

it's slang

[sleek plover]

i do liked the rikers balaclava from div 1

[cold bramble]

Faye didn't toss her ideologies, infact they were brought up in her mission, how it was done however was DOGSHIT

[sleek plover]

i mean she joined btsu thus LMB

so shes evil in my book

[vivid inlet]

BTSU aren't all LMB

[sleek plover]

i really hope i could vlad tepes the hell out of thousands of ex lmb guys

[sleek plover]

still they joined them

so they are essentially the same kind of oppressive tyrants

[vivid inlet]

What if I told you that you were ex LMB

[sleek plover]

....what?

[vivid inlet]

Yes you heard me

[sleek plover]

i mean story wise we dont have an official lore for our player agents

[gaunt ice]

"But if you close your eyessss,does it almost feel like nothing's changed at all"

[sleek plover]

and everyones seem to have their own headcanons

[cold bramble]

and if you close your eyesss does it almost feel like you've been here before?

[vivid inlet]

I have proof that you specifically you are from the LMB

[sleek plover]

what proof?

[gaunt ice]

we are interested @vivid inlet

[vivid inlet]

You are on PC meaning you have used LMB before

aka Left mouse button

[cold bramble]

tbh the lmb stronghold wasn't that bad

the copter was a bit annoying

[sleek plover]

.......jesus tapdancing christ that pun again

[sleek plover]

Bliss died to clean a death, personally i would have either have him marched in front of citizens tarree and feathered or aztec sacrifice him to the statue of liberty he blasphemed against

because freedom is a right and liberty is a given

[vivid inlet]

#deathtoleftmousebutton

[sleek plover]

and that fact is divine

[sick lantern]

it does feel pretty badass to storm the UN and save the city tho

[cold bramble]

tbh i'm kinda sad we didn't get too do a bliss boss fight

guess he was more of a coward than he let on

[sleek plover]

at least i was able to use all my incendiary grenades on ridgeway

for a painful death

[sick lantern]

he's an old man what did you want from him

[sleek plover]

humiliation, death, suffering?

[sick lantern]

humiliation: people have the right to not suffer "cruel and unusual" punishment
death: he literally died?
suffering: he literally died?

[gaunt ice]

I mean,he did die a honorable death,fighting for what he believes in and fight til the last breath

[round sinew]

Let's have a time jump for Division 3.

[sick lantern]

another one?

[drifting lotus]

RIGHT BACK INTO WINTER?

[round sinew]

No. A bit bigger time jump.

I'm thinking about... Oh... 38,000-39,000 years.

[drifting lotus]

You mean far along in the universe where even the thought of existence is meaningless?

We will be either slaves to the overlords as a race or be entirely extinct. I wonder if there is any other race in the universe that will be prevalent during the time9.

[sick lantern]

i hate that so many aliens in first contact movies, shows etc. are villains

[sick lantern]

When ARMA does aliens better than most, you know there's a problem

[round sinew]

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.

[sleek plover]

and cookies

[gaunt ice]

And choco milk too

[sleek plover]

Dont forget the ice cream!

[gaunt ice]

And lmb

Light Milk Breads

[vivid inlet]

Don't you mean Left Mouse Button

[gaunt ice]

Ligmaballs

“This is Lieutenant Charles Bliss of the Lig Ma Balls”

[vivid inlet]

Like My Back

[sick lantern]

what if the Faye Lau cutscene would’ve been big sequel bait but then they had to drop it?

[carmine trench]

Wouldn't be surprised if it was.

[sick lantern]

she falls over dies and Hunter mask rolls out of her backpack :p

[sick lantern]

reconsidering it, i would enjoy if the next game was on a bit of a wider scale/had a bit more spectacle and action and a time skip could help justify that

what i mean is- fighting monorails is lame, give us tanks and airstrikes and shit

[round sinew]

Just make Endwar 2, Ubisoft

[cold bramble]

personally i would like to see a game or a spinoff with a focus on squads

[sick lantern]

this franchise does need a spinoff to take it beyond the storytelling and gameplay limitations of an RPG

but it’s Ubisoft so ofc it can’t live up to its full potential

could give us branching paths to be Rogue or not, or even multiple campaigns from different perspectives (JTF Soldier, First Wave Agent, even from an enemy faction’s PoV for example)

[cold bramble]

🥲 we have so many under used squads that only appear in trailers / books or just minor audio logs

[sick lantern]

never heard of it but it sounds like a cool concept, Tom Clancy’s World War 3

[carmine trench]

Sounds like some kinda WoW level stuff

[sick lantern]

if they do make a third main game and they don’t have Rogues and non-Rogues as options like the Horde and Alliance in WoW, that’ll be very annoying

Div 1 ends with Keener telling us to go Rogue, in Div 2 we have ANNA, it’d be silly if they didn’t do this

[round sinew]

EndWar was good

[vivid inlet]

I am now officially a LMB Fan

[sick lantern]

😳

better watch out

[vivid inlet]

I know I specifically sent It here so @sleek plover sees it

[sick lantern]

Who even is the National Continuity Coordinator?

[gaunt ice]

fair enough,you need lmb to shoot

[viral shell]

I got an awesome purple quality CTAC AR earlier. Its wrecking everything

consider I'm like level 9

[round sinew]

More deadend lore from Ubisoft. That's who they are.

[cold bramble]

🥛🍪

[jovial skiff]

so ive killed aaron keener and hes at 0 hp but i cant do anything

he justturns and looks at me

[spare arrow]

Might have to re-run the mission.

[jovial skiff]

so fucking long

[sick lantern]

the twist in the Division 3 is, they are a Patriot AI

that’s who controls the Black Tusk too

[carmine trench]

"Written by Hideo Kojima"

[gaunt ice]

I don’t get what’s wrong with Kojima,is he a bad writer?

[cold bramble]

Yes and no

let's just say it's a very good thing that he has co-writers

[sick lantern]

a VERY good thing

[sick lantern]

sometimes we get The S3 Plan, and sometimes we get... whatever the hell happened in Death Stranding

[gaunt ice]

Random baby shipper vs Reaper the child trafficker

[gaunt ice]

So he’s Allu of script writing

[sick lantern]

I NEED SCISSORS
SIXTY-ONE

[vivid inlet]

Hmmm I wonder if there's someone here that hates the LMB

[cold bramble]

do not summon him

don't do it don't call him from out of his cave

[vivid inlet]

Who ? Death To Left Mouse Button ?