division-universe

[gaunt ice]

Or even more

Or maybe it was all just a dream

To be fair,you’re using war crime to beat war crime

I don’t think black tusk are considered “remnants”

We probably killed like,2% of their unit

[cold bramble]

i was mostly speaking of the other factions, it was just easier to use a broad term

[gaunt ice]

Say if the tusk puts everything onto dc just like the lmb back in NYC,do we even stand a chance?

Like,say 10000,all striking the BoO?

[cold bramble]

we barely won the first invasion

[gaunt ice]

Why though?we achieved our goal so far,captured the leader of their special unit and next,probably their supervisor and at some point their boss

Oh and got enough stuff to start producing cures

[sleek plover]

im just curious how many of them are still left, including the non-specialist unit ones

because its pretty much destined if div 2 ends with lau and div 3 happens, were gonna have them as main enemy

[gaunt ice]

Nah Natalia

Puts in some Metal Gear shit

And then ties Ghost Recon together

[sleek plover]

i mean if these specialist unit is big enough to actually take over parts of DC, how big would the entire company would. be?

[gaunt ice]

I don’t think 100% of their spec ops will be doing those invaded stuff

[cold bramble]

we already have a shagohod with razorback

[gaunt ice]

I would say the elites and the bosses are actual BTSU members

[sleek plover]

Im more curious how the guys behind BT would phrase their "were gonna take over the world muhahah" objective

[gaunt ice]

And then Sam Fisher makes another cameo,cuz fuck you.Why?fuck you
-Ubisoft

The soldiers believes that we’re the bad guys,and they’re doing the right thing

[sleek plover]

welp, whose the ones killing civs?

and recruiting tje guys who killed civs and social workers

[gaunt ice]

I mean,Bard’s boss told him to get everyone he can find

[sleek plover]

... damn i really hate LMB

[gaunt ice]

Including scums,murderers,...

[gaunt ice]

Is that a goodbye or hi?

I don’t speak lmb

[gaunt ice]

And Bard himself disagrees with these decisions,but still has to obey them

[sleek plover]

its just literal

this time ar least

[gaunt ice]

I think he only breaks order in Coney Island

Where he should’ve pulled back

[sleek plover]

I wonder where did they locked the bastard up

I mean, he's like almost ghost recon material, he probs would escape

[gaunt ice]

My bet?Hanged upside down in that dark room where he interrogated that agent

[sleek plover]

I mean i think hes locked somewhere in white house

[gaunt ice]

With Sanders aiming the pistol to his head?

[sleek plover]

I hope i can invite the kids from theatre and campus

[gaunt ice]

Sounds kinda risky

[sleek plover]

to throw water balloons, paintballs, ketchups and stuff

[gaunt ice]

At Bard?

[sleek plover]

stink bombs, spitballs

yeah

would def do the same thing to Bliss

[gaunt ice]

Just give them a Eclipse payload

[sleek plover]

no thats too quick

[gaunt ice]

But tbh,he’s kinda cool

[sleek plover]

nope, the guys a self righteous fascist

[gaunt ice]

No not Bliss

[sleek plover]

i meant bard

[gaunt ice]

Bard

[sleek plover]

also bliss

[gaunt ice]

I mean,he’s cool enough to not spam skills and throwables at you

[sleek plover]

i mean having his comms saying "im a patriot" almost made. me. puke

[gaunt ice]

Well he IS a patriot

[sleek plover]

... and he does def deserve stinkbomb throws from the kids

[cold bramble]

i have alot of respect for a commander that goes and stays on the frontlines when your unit constantly faces losses

[sleek plover]

humiliate him before he dies slowly and painfully

that is justice

at least outcasts understand how justice should work

[gaunt ice]

Uhhh insulting adults is not something you should teach children

[sleek plover]

nope, theyre insulting bad guys who'll probably conscript them later

[gaunt ice]

He got some balls I’ll give him that

[sleek plover]

or alternatively we can have him tarred and feathered and force him to wear a clown wig, makeup and nose and have him marched around in dc

also would def do the same thing to bliss

[gaunt ice]

Remember that Clown costume from Hitman?

Yeah Bard would be something like that

[sleek plover]

well the purpose is to insult him, perhaps folks in theatre could sling garbage and poop on him

[gaunt ice]

He’s not that bad

[sleek plover]

he is that bad, he is a fascist and he deserves worse

[gaunt ice]

Really,he just has a really bad boss

And at which point does he declares or shows himself to be a facist?

[sleek plover]

and def wouldndo the same thing to bliss AND ridgeway if capture was possible

I mean he leads BTSU which wanrs to control america and kills civs

which also includes LMB in their midst

[gaunt ice]

Put them infront of a giant mirror,hang them upside down and kill them with their own weapon:shiny bald heads

[gaunt ice]

Yeah,about 0.1%

[sleek plover]

Now youre talkin

[gaunt ice]

He has bad bosses

[ashen jungle]

Okay time to chill out now u2. This is a fictional group we're talking about.

[sleek plover]

actuallt that was bad

[gaunt ice]

I’m trying to convince him that Bard ain’t that too bad while I Hate Lmb is trying to make Bard looks like Coky the Clown

[sleek plover]

dont forget have him marched around DC while children and citizens throw water balloons, garbage and poops in diapers

[gaunt ice]

I mean,children love clowns

[sleek plover]

and thats the reason why they would be so eager

[gaunt ice]

Just make him share dinner with Kelly,he’ll shit his pants for the rest of his life

Goddamm autocorrect

[gaunt ice]

I don’t recall having memories of children throwing diapers to a clown outside of IT

I mean,clowns are meant to make children happy,not a walking target practice

[sleek plover]

or we can put him on a chicken suit

and have him tarred and feathered

while have people and children throw garbage and shit at him

Also, ill have some btsu guys captured and force them to watch all that as they die by a firing squad

[gaunt ice]

I mean,there are tusk this and tusk that

[sleek plover]

serves them. right for denying freedom, which is a right and a given

[gaunt ice]

So you can’t just all assume they’re bad guys

[sleek plover]

yeah! walrus suits are much better

anyways i think my time here is up for a day, allow me to return to my prayers

Continues worshipping freedom at a altar

[gaunt ice]

Theres one interaction between tusk and civil when they were patrolling and checking them.then told them to go into hiding for their own safety

[sleek plover]

Iä Iä Fre'edom fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Fre'edom Americ'a wgah'nagl fhtagn!

[gaunt ice]

Noah,where’s the holy water?

Anyways,where are we going next?

For div3

“Keep you waiting huh?”
-everybody to me

[tepid ibex]

They kill people who had nothing to do with them being stranded on Roosevelt Island tho. Killing people who had no correlation to an incident isnt justice. However exclusively killing people who caused your suffering, aka the True Sons, is how I would sympathize them

[tepid ibex]

He mentions "this city needs an Iron Fist to restore order," sounds great but it has been popular associated with facism.

[tepid ibex]

You fool, it would only strengthen us

[untold blaze]

where is the united ironworks?

[gaunt ice]

Yeah you will die before doing any serious damage

[gaunt ice]

But from his perspective,ain’t that right?4 factions fighting for control over the city,causing chaos everywhere

And what do you suggest?hold “make peace not hate”signs infront of Roosevelt?

[tepid ibex]

In a time where the three other factions are causing havoc, Iron Fist would be necessary at times. He said "people are scared and angry, and that when they'll act stupid and risk the lives of others." Only after the threats had been diminished would Iron Fist not be necessary anymore.

[tepid ibex]

How would I die if it strengthend me?

[tepid ibex]

Fuck no, I'd want revenge too. They should have made an alliance with the Division to help kill True Sons instead of being dumbasses and killing everyone they see.

Outcasts had poor judgement

[gaunt ice]

And then you have the agents,who’s considered to be the biggest threat to dc(by Bard’s perspective)

[gaunt ice]

I’m saying you will burn to a crisp before you can actually use your power against you lol

[gaunt ice]

Fair point

[gaunt ice]

pop

new name

[tepid ibex]

pop
gif profile pic

[gaunt ice]

make a mcdonalds ad but with Charles speech

i actually expected more from the final showdown with Ridgeway

i mean,Bliss was epic,attack helicopter vs a 9mm vector is lit

but Ridgeway is just a named heavy rpg hybrid

maybe he'll use a tank,and you have to blow it up to force him go out,THEN fight him

[tepid ibex]

walks up to stranger - "This city needs an iron fist to restore order! There shall be no resistance! This is the only way!"
gives stranger BigMac

[tepid ibex]

Man didn't have those assets

[tepid ibex]

Even the Hyenas had the right idea on their stronghold mission. We had to destroy some armored vehicle in order to get the boss out

[gaunt ice]

They were ex-JTthefuckingF

If they can somehow stole a autocannon,it shouldn’t be too hard for a tank

Or a APC

Even Dragov had one

[gaunt ice]

Eat bigmac or die?

Idk that’s sounds cool enough

[gaunt ice]

Yeah if they can pull that thing out then life would’ve been harder

[tepid ibex]

They took that thing off of some plane in the musems.
Manny Ortega - "I gotta give it to 'em. They're crafty sons of bitches"

[gaunt ice]

“Yeah let’s put a functional autocannon in a museum for decorations,nothing could go wrong”

[tepid ibex]

@gaunt ice Yup, and it's specifically off the Warthog from the Air and Space Musem
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/b63v1h/psa_the_gun_on_capitol_hill_is_a_gau8_avenger/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

[ashen jungle]

Decommissioned guns in museums and such are real weapons, they usually just remove the working part. Wouldn't be hard to scavenge the bits.

[gaunt ice]

😮

So it’s not a modern autocannon

Ok sounds better now

[tepid ibex]

And the True Sons could have made functioning missiles too if it wasn't for those meddling Division agents

[gaunt ice]

And what?launch it from their cardboard launcher?

[ashen jungle]

Wasn't the attack on The Castle with a mortar?

[gaunt ice]

I don’t think that rocket you break in Air and Space fits into a mortar

Why don’t they just hit the White House with that shit before we ever got to Jefferson Plaza?

[ashen jungle]

White House is something of a holy ground to them I'd feel. They wouldn't bomb it.

[gaunt ice]

But doesn’t it just fades away later?i mean,you can go to the castle now without gas mask and you’ll be fine

[ashen jungle]

I'm assuming they just launched it in very specific points, which makes sense as people lived through the attacks. Maybe they even screwed up the mixture.

[tepid ibex]

Aye, they're crafty sons of bithes

[gaunt ice]

Maybe the Iron Horse is just reinforced carboard boxes painted in black

And the Foundry is just a disguise for their secret cardboard making techniques

How far is Foundry away from the city?

[sleek plover]

Iä Iä Fre'edom fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Fre'edom Americ'a wgah'nagl fhtagn!

[ashen jungle]

"the outskirts of D.C." is all we know for sure, I'm certain it has an IRL equivalent.

[sleek plover]

There is a Duvall Foundry, but its more of a historical site

[ashen jungle]

I don't think we have to assume that it's a direct IRL place, as the National Zoo looks nothing like Manning, and Camp David looks nothing like White Oak, so think more "inspired by".

[sleek plover]

i just realized

@tepid ibex, ridgeway, ferro and keener are just different shades of kurtz from apocalypse now

[ashen jungle]

How?

[sleek plover]

wait i think i meant more like Konrad from spec ops the line

abandoned, turned evil

[ashen jungle]

Ferro's wife died and he went mad trying to eradicate the virus.
Keener wants power and control.
Ridgeway kinda I suppose.

[cold bramble]

i love ignoring story too

[ashen jungle]

How is that ignoring story?

[trail wind]

Keener didnt want power. He wanted people see the truth even his twisted why about it and it work regardless of his plans not being fullfilled. Rogues agents everywhere now. Even has affected playerbase. You know a villain great when it can do that.

[ashen jungle]

That's a good thought, but it's kinda underminded by the fact that Keener doesn't care about the other Rogues. He used them all, the only one to see through it was Javier and he only stuck with Keener because he could help him find the JTF who Javier was after.

His motivations are a little crossed actually, whenever he's talking to someone else he's all "oh the world needs changing" but at the end of Div1 when it was just you his only goal was selling new Viruses.

[trail wind]

Well I never even mention he cared. Just a cause that happened with what was/is going on around them.

[ashen jungle]

What does that have to do with my statement about Keener wanting power and control?

[trail wind]

Because he doesnt want it and never has.

[ashen jungle]

What does he want then, in your opinion.

[tepid ibex]

moneh

[ashen jungle]

#division-universe message

[trail wind]

I already stated my opinion with my first reply.

[ashen jungle]

Keener being some kinda truth seeker is a massive over-simplification IMO. It doesn't suit who he really is, just a greedy S.O.B.
"Arron Keener always thought he was the smartest guy in the room".

[trail wind]

Keener is a complex antagonist or maybe antihero. One moment he drug dealer, next can seem like a hero, then dash of wanting to bring virus back. Maybe oversimplify of him, but my opinion is just a layer of an it.

One thing I like about the division games is the twists and turns in the story. Some may call it lazy writing but I love it haha.

[ashen jungle]

I don't hate the writing, I just think that Keener was made the antagonist later down the writing process.

[sleek plover]

damn i hate LMB

[untold blaze]

we get it omg

[sleek plover]

thats me saying hello

[tepid ibex]

To side with @ashen jungle on this there is an cinematic in the Division 1. It shows Keener talking to a Rogue Agent and Keener says "It's all about power now, power and survival. They are done but I am not, and you won't be either, not if you work with me."

[ashen jungle]

Thanks, I honestly really do need to re-play Div1 at some point.

[lilac mason]

Iirc that quote is in The Grudge in td2 too

[ashen jungle]

yep, the SMG that no one cares about lol

every time I do the Keener fight on Story, I get a godrolled, it's weird.

[gaunt ice]

i just wanna say

youre wrong

Grudge is decent lol

[ashen jungle]

There's no denying it's decent, but Chatterbox, LD, DW, etc, etc. all exist.

[spice hull]

What's going on guys

[sleek plover]

I hate LMB

and the hate is still going on

like a curse

[next orchid]

spoiler alert: in the division 2 you kill a man known as Black Tusk grunt number 43

[sleek plover]

Yeah, and he wields rattata and zubat

[untold blaze]

where are the other 42 grunts

How many grunts are there

Uh oh

[sleek plover]

Just killed Kestrel

didnt gave the bastard even a chance to use his armor kit

I figure he was like all "agent spotted! wait what the...(dies)"

An assault turret, a striker drone, trauma bleed+blind and 4 incendiary grenades while he just waited in a tight spot

Sorry kid, thats what you get when you side with fascists

[lilac mason]

My Kestrel exercised advanced swaggery

Granted i fought him on heroic so he got his time to shine with that vertical slow walk for a good while

[gaunt ice]

You know that your agent dude has some John Wick shit prepared when you beat a A-posing guys who’s constantly convulses and heal himself,while hitting every shotgun pellet despite holding it sideways

Not to forget remaking the infamous Moonwalk at the same time

[trail wind]

I just didnt get that from keener in div2 with everything he was doing or planning. Idk why reintroducing virus stronger and more deadly would bring power and control. Then again back to my original statement complex antagonist.

Even with keener alienating everyone he meets or does buisness with really aint going to give power or control.

[cold bramble]

keener stopped growing as a character after d1 according to some people in this discord

so i wouldn't try talking about him to them

[trail wind]

I can see that haha.

[round sinew]

Anyone: mentions Keener in WONY
Romulus: seething hatred

[gaunt ice]

Ima say the A word

Arron Keener

[gaunt ice]

WoNY Edition

[cosmic niche]

Kestle was glitched. Just skated around my screen without firing a shot. 

[tepid ibex]

Kestle was such a buggy Rogue to kill. Don't know if that was intentional or not but for some reason, he's not like the others...

[round sinew]

I don't think that was on purpose unless he turned on God mode.

[late quiver]

So like, what if the endgame is that after we defeat Faye Lau, ISAC becomes sentient, realizing that the supposedly good agency that created him has only been using him to fight each other.
And Division 3 is us trying to take back the country from a rogue AI. We have to craft our own skills without SHD tech and use old fashioned medkits to heal and stuff.

[spare arrow]

i mean we still use old fashioned medkits to heal

SAPI plates

[late quiver]

I mean for like, chem heals.

[spare arrow]

Also, ISAC isnt fighting ISAC. Theo, before we take him out, allows the rogue network to "flourish" with ANNA, the rogue version of ISAC. All shd agents who go rogue have their skills disabled, unless they are a part of the rogue network, or a similar workaround.

[mint citrus]

And we all have Keener's watch

[round sinew]

Pre-ANNA the workaround for Rogues was a Black Tusk backdoor into ISAC that let rogue agents hide under the radar.

[gaunt ice]

Wait.so how did the Rogues use their skill in d1?

[spare arrow]

Similar workaround to Theo's, but less wide-spread.

[gaunt ice]

canonically,how does Keener's Watch benefit us?

like,not stats-wise but rather lore-wise?

[spare arrow]

Lore-wise it grants us a line into the rogue network, making tracking rogue agents easier.

[ashen jungle]

That explains how we're able to listen in on a conversation between the founder of BT and the head of the BTSU.

[gaunt ice]

so that the watch can belike:"Rogue agent detected"?

[ashen jungle]

I think it's less a detector of Rogues (since we could already do that pre-WONY) and more about being able to hack into Rogue networks so we can hunt them down.

[gaunt ice]

i thought those are just random comms dropped by key characters/location in the manhunt?

[ashen jungle]

True, but lore-wise it makes sense that we'd need something more powerful to be able to decode them.

[gaunt ice]

oh so we can get that briefting scene?

[ashen jungle]

Div's lore has always been at least a little interpretation.

[spare arrow]

The "briefing scene" seems to be kelso drawing out the next plan of attack and telling us

[gaunt ice]

buttt the source has to come out from somewhere right?

[spare arrow]

The... source?

[ashen jungle]

I'm certain that the Keener watch we now have is not just ours, but is linked up with Rhodes and the White House's systems. re: the good guys have access to the network, not just us.

[gaunt ice]

like,where you get that info from?

[spare arrow]

Which info, i've said alot

[gaunt ice]

how do we know that theyre gonna strike?

[ashen jungle]

"the source" you refer to is our access into the Rogue Network.

[gaunt ice]

yes

[spare arrow]

Listening in on the rogue network, likely.

[gaunt ice]

through the watch?

[ashen jungle]

we can listen in on their comms, we killed the one responsible for creating it and have access to all his back-up data about ANNA too.

[spare arrow]

Its not just the watch, thats just how we initially accessed it.

[ashen jungle]

Theo's last mission was breaking into his off-site Server, don't forget.

[gaunt ice]

😮

[ashen jungle]

It's worth re-playing WONY at some point, there's some great lore in it.

How Keener betrays every single one of the Rogue bosses before they die, the exception being Kajika who saw it coming and didn't care.

[spare arrow]

Keener: "i'm betraying u kajika"
Kajika: "cool thanks i'm killing this agent"

[ashen jungle]

basically!

although he was more into hunting down the specific JTF who screwed him over, actually he got the last one too, we see him executing them in the mission.

[half apex]

Kajika mission in a nutshell

[gaunt ice]

its not like Kajika ever gave a shit 'bout Keener's plan or the Cleaners

also dude was like:since guns doesnt work now ima kill you with my blade and the power of my resolves

[half apex]

yeah. seems more of a personal vendetta rather than mission like.

sounds more like a rogue samurai

haha

[ashen jungle]

I think it was more about being personal about the killing, less than "guns dont work".

[half apex]

oh yes. same thought.

[gaunt ice]

But how can he kill us if he’s just gonna face tank with a sword?

Without any armor?

To be honest,if he just popped smoke everywhere and then circle around us,it would be cooler

A ninja with a suppressed shotgun

[tepid ibex]

Why did the Rikers accept a former police officer in riot gear as their leader again?

[gaunt ice]

He freed them from the prison,for the second time

[tepid ibex]

irl some of them would hit him with the - "So what?! You still a cop! You still put us in here!" and proceed to try to kill him imo. If he survived he would still have people within the Rikers trying to kill him on the daily prob

[sleek plover]

wait wasnt he the one who threw the key to larae barrett?

if u are talking about dragov that is

he is a police with his family being russian mafia, he's a freakin batman character

Actually divisionXBatman crossover is gonna fit like lego blocks

[ashen jungle]

Well he wasn't after us, but the JTF who personally wronged him.

[mint citrus]

We were in the way

[lilac mason]

We weren't even in Kajika's way, we just went to hunt him down because he been messin with jtf bois

Chances are, if that "one left" on his hit list that Benitez did not mention the name of really was the one he yeeted early in the mission, he might either come for us or just leave

not counting that big ass tunnel drill tho

[cold bramble]

ben was on the list, he was in the command party that forced javier to abandon his people while he was shd

[lilac mason]

Really? That voice in the comm didnt sound like Ben

[ashen jungle]

I always assumed that Benitez himself was on the list, as he seemed genuinely worried about Kajika, and more than just the usual.

[cold bramble]

@lilac mason surivors guilt comms for roy when he talks to a priest

ngn has a nice video on him if you want to go look

[lilac mason]

Ah, i shall go check that out

[ashen jungle]

Yeah as always, I recommend listening to the in-game comms. Some of the best line delivery in the whole franchise is in those.

[lilac mason]

I did listen, but some skipped my mind

[ashen jungle]

The one in Div1 where a Rioter was mugged by a group of kids is still the best.

[gaunt ice]

Just one more:so Kajika abandoned the civvies in the comms before he go rogue or save them,THEN go rogue?

[ashen jungle]

I just assumed they all died, as did most people in the DZ.

That would explain why he wants revenge against the ones that gave the orders.

[cold bramble]

he never abandoned them, it was the reason he was tagged rogue, it was either save people and go rogue, or listen to orders and go rogue that way

that was why he was so pissed about it

a literal no win situation

because of how fucked isac is

if they were sent back up that situation never would've happened

[round sinew]

So

Division 2 will likely be over after the Lau manhunt, considering the new news.

I don't think Massive has the resources to actively develop two games at once unless they get help from another Ubisoft studio.

That's my only reasoning.

[ashen jungle]

What new news?

[round sinew]

Massive got rights to a new franchise with a huge new project.

So I'm going to assume that will be taking up their resources for a bit.

[cold bramble]

Guess division is getting backburnered, they are on avatar as well

[round sinew]

Maybe they'll finish out Division 2, if they have plans ready for it. But I already didn't expect them to have much in Year 2 content, let alone anything after that. I think this seals the deal, really.

I guess it's up to how much they have developed already and when they begin working on the project.

[ashen jungle]

Mind linking the story? Google isn't being kind.

[round sinew]

No official story yet, it's all internal leaks.

[ashen jungle]

So rumours then.

[round sinew]

But Ubisoft got the green light to develop a Star Wars open-world. Massive is the studio doing it.

It's being leaked because this is a huge piece of news.

[ashen jungle]

More rumours or is there an official announcement about things?

[round sinew]

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-wars-game-ubisoft-open-world-story-the-division-massive

[cold bramble]

tbf, anything -new- they'd do for us would take atleast a year if they werent already doing it while seasons were going on

[ashen robin]

Their new project seems to be Avatar

[round sinew]

This is literally fresh news. As fresh as news can be.

[ashen jungle]

I just asked for a link, not sass.

[round sinew]

I didn't give sass

[ashen jungle]

Seems like they're working on both, which doesn't surprise me as Div2 is a live-service which doesn't require full development costs.

[round sinew]

I'm guessing the announcement internally probably happened this morning as they rolled into work and now the devs are tweeting up a storm about it.

Which is fair. LucasArts finally giving a game to someone other than EA-Dice is a big deal.

[ashen jungle]

MSV have over 650 employees as of 2020, so my guess is that they're gonna work on both.

they ain't no small studio.

[round sinew]

I guess it depends on what resources they need for the new game.

[cold bramble]

it's not good, i have a terrible feeling that they are using msv because of their liveservice exp if the open world aspect is true

[ashen jungle]

Assuming they use the snowdrop engine, they've got a big part of the problem of game devving solved already.

[round sinew]

Eh. If Massive is leading the development, maybe we'll get TOR 2 at the cost of Division 2.

[ashen jungle]

I'm honestly excited, MSV could do great things with the Star Wars license, now that Disney is being less psychotic about sticking to the formula.

[round sinew]

^

Only took them 8ish years

[ashen jungle]

Oh hell no, I don't want TOR 2 done by anyone, much less a studio that's never made an RPG before. All respect to MSV with div2, wonderful game, but TOR 2 requires exactly the right touch.

[round sinew]

Guys i got it: Pod Racer 2.

[ashen jungle]

also, TOR 2 is kinda spoiled by the fact that the SWTOR MMO already carries on the story of KOTOR.
Shadow of Revan expansion.

[round sinew]

Star Wars being Ubisoft'ed can only be a good thing.

[ashen jungle]

If they make 1313, all is forgiven.

[round sinew]

I don't think 1313 will ever see the light of day. It's R6 Patriots now.

[cold bramble]

back to the massive thing, they were on a hiring spree during 2020 so they might have resources for 3

[ashen jungle]

a live-service open world game where you play as a Bounty Hunter is just, all the yes.

Avatar was delayed until 2022.

[round sinew]

Avatar is delayed until never.

James Cameron is never going to release the next 18 avatar movies.

[ashen jungle]

He's filmed 2, 3 and 4 all together, from what I understand.

[sleek plover]

oh

almost forgot about it

Damn I hate LMB.

its a daily ritual

[gaunt ice]

Soooo....the lore is done in 1 more month?

[sleek plover]

yea i guess

was gonna retire after lau killed anyways becuasen i knew div2s gonna end

and than ill go to div 1 and start my official LMB massacre

I will paint the town red with their putrid blood flowing like ocean

just like la Marseilles

Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons, sillon.

[ashen jungle]

I'd say no, there's 0 indication that a studio as well, massive as MSV don't have the resources to work on 2 games at the same time, especially because one only requires content and not full on development.

[gaunt ice]

I mean,a new game that they can bet on to make more money vs a 2 year-old game that’s a bit dried up for now

Doesn’t sound like a fair match

[ashen jungle]

You're assuming that they don't have the resources to keep Div2 updated at the same time as work on a Star Wars whatever.

[gaunt ice]

I’m not

I’m saying they’ll probably prioritize the new game over adding more content to d2

[ashen jungle]

Simply put, Div1 got 3 years of content, Div2 will very likely get 3 years.

[cold bramble]

even if with the hope of them working on something for us since seasons started, it's pretty much done for a bit

[ashen jungle]

I'm not even gonna bother anymore. Every single time I come on this server it's "game is gonna die" "game is ded" "game has no content".

its exhausting.

[cold bramble]

they won't start immediately working on a new game as soon as its "revealed", things are definitely going to be slowed down

[gaunt ice]

What did d1 got for year 3?1.8 patch andddd.......?

[gaunt ice]

Anyway,I’m not gonna say “game is ded”shit.

But what “Ending”do you think the game will have?

[ashen jungle]

Simple, Div3 is gonna be announced, and that will be the final year of Div2.

same thing happened with Div1. If it's gonna happen this year, it'll happen in March.

[gaunt ice]

I’m talking lore

[ashen jungle]

It will leave some threads open for a sequel, as any good franchise does, but I think we're going to either capture or kill Ellis and Sokolova is probably going to die.

[waxen arrow]

Maybe an expansion?

Where it would go to a futurized city filled to the brim with black tusk, and we take down each Provence one by one until we get to Sokolova and Ellis

Ellis will be thrown at us, and Sokolova escapes

great expansion :(

[ashen jungle]

I think Sokolova is gonna be setup fairly well then killed off as weakly as Keener was.

[tepid ibex]

You're so freakin........weird

[gaunt ice]

Isn’t that just a warcrime?

[ashen jungle]

Chem launcher isn't a warcrime already?

[gaunt ice]

Idk,by far only the oxidizer is one

Cuz foam and gas doesn’t seem to be too evil

Or inhumane

[ashen jungle]

Fire?

[gaunt ice]

Outcast?

[ashen jungle]

Fire Chem Launcher, you forgot about the last one.

[lethal cedar]

Gas is only a war crime when using during war, it is not war, thus, not warcrime, and Riot foam is used for crowd control, which is what True Son foam guy and agents does, so, no war crime, but turret and roller and trap on the other hand, are war crime

but come on, there's no one there to enforce the "Laws of Conflict" or anyone that's alive to enforce it, so, it is free for all

[ashen jungle]

It's a joke man, don't take it so literally.

[cold bramble]

What about the elite sucide bombers

[round sinew]

This

Or worse. They make her a Manhunt bounty.

[gaunt ice]

No way.Evil woman on a desk is no way fit enough to even hold a shotgun lol

[drifting lotus]

I mean.. do you need to have combat capabilities to be labeled for a manhunt?

[waxen arrow]

she has to have atleast some sort of combat capabilities, no?

[lilac mason]

inb4 they put her on outcast rusher archtype

[gaunt ice]

Well fuck,he’s got an idea

Natalia in a reinforced bombsuit with some holy tech,constantly rushing you with bombs strapped around her,uses a airburst launcher while chungas surround her as bodyguards

[sleek plover]

Why dont they have the desk shoot machineguns and missiles?

[gaunt ice]

Idk,Bliss was on a helo and got blown by 9mm vector

How much chance does Natalia have with a table?

[tepid ibex]

We should be able to buy NPC models in the Appearance Vendor in Div 1, I mean the game has been out for over 4 years now so why not? Ubisoft/Massive knows people fantasize about joining other factions anyway (ironic). Like, I wanna be a LMB Squad Leader whilst pulling seeker mines out of thin air. Idc if it makes the game less realistic, I just wanna have more cosmetics lmao.

Like normal NPCs would only cost 800k Credits (The Rioters, Rikers, Cleaners, and LMB you see in open world)
Legendary LMB NPC's cost 2 million Credits
Then you get to Rogue Agent models which would cost 5 million
And Hunter outfits would cost 10 million credits.

You wouldn't be able to play as the big guys from each faction tho and the tanks on the Cleaners would only be cosmetic and wouldn't actually be a weak point and blow up.

It's a decent idea imo but more thought would have to go into this if they implemented it.

[lilac mason]

what if we want to cosplay JTF chumps

[tepid ibex]

You can, thats exactly what I'm talking about. It'd be coolio

[untold blaze]

I wish we could change the color of apparel in the division 2 like you can in ghost recon breakpoint

[ashen jungle]

There's a JTF outfit in-game.

[lilac mason]

Shit, there is?

[ashen jungle]

yep, it'd down somewhere in Outfits, gimme like 5 and I'll double-check.

okay found, it! https://imgur.com/a/cWOjWD8

[sleek plover]

About custom models, I wanna do the hyenas shooting pose

[lilac mason]

Nice

When i put td1 on again i might see if i bought it

[ashen jungle]

That's in Div2.

[sleek plover]

Rivens the VOID lesbian

[ashen jungle]

Uh pardon?

[lilac mason]

Ih, right, i remember now

[sleek plover]

oh srry, your name only shown "RIVENS" for a moment

[ashen jungle]

uh, right

[lilac mason]

It doesnt look as chumpy as div1 jtf lmao

You actually look okay wearing it

[tepid ibex]

I remember when you could actually get faction apparel from D1 in those encrypted caches or could buy them individually. Now you have to get the whole bundle for one. And thing is you could own some of the clothing in the Bundle already but it would still cost the same amount of Premium Credits as it did to buy the whole bundle.

[ashen jungle]

Are you aware that you can buy individual pieces for Textiles, they even rotate the stock so you can get different ones later on.

[tepid ibex]

I'm talking about Division 1 tho, textiles weren't in that one. Just premium credits

[undone jacinth]

I just finished Broken Dawn and I got some questions:
What happens to Diaz at the end?
Does Ike become a rouge BT/BTSU member?
Who's Mantis?

[ashen jungle]

I'd avoid asking for pirated material on the official subreddit.

[gaunt ice]

It’s Discord,but fair enough

[cold bramble]

not to rub salt but its here too, 7. Any kind of discussion about video game piracy is not allowed. No matter what game or company.

[ashen jungle]

Yeah that's what I was referring to, should've made it clearer.

[gaunt ice]

Yeah I deserved that

[lethal cedar]

you know, the Mantis Sniper could be a reference to Mantis in Broken Dawn, maybe ,maybe

[ashen jungle]

Big coincidence if it wasn't.

[lethal cedar]

Pestilence,Bighorn, and Burnout too those are some old TD1 named guys

just maybe

1 cleaner and 2 rikers

[undone jacinth]

Hell yeah, thought the same

[sleek plover]

I hope I can do the hyenas gangsta shooting animation

that will further complete my rioter look

[gaunt ice]

Holding guns with 1 hand

Hits better than a trained soldier

[lethal cedar]

Hyena's one handed shotgun, or Riker's duel SMG-9 ?

[gaunt ice]

Well...both to be fair Haze

[lethal cedar]

i'm actually hopping one day we could get compound bows those Trash Ninjas use, not the explosive crossbow/outcast sniper ones, just regular bow and arrow

[lilac mason]

Yeah i believe they would be able to throw mechanics together to make one fairly quickly

Nemesis firing mechanic, dropoff ui and mechanics from either crossbow or launchers

[round sinew]

Yes, use a bow.

And then watch it ping off tank plates.

[untold blaze]

what was happening at the start of the division 2 and where even were we

as in the tutorial

[drifting lotus]

You're in a small town thats getting bombarded by lawless folk... once your watch coordinates go off, you head out as reinforcements for washington to investigate the SHD network going down.

[untold blaze]

do you know where the town is?

[round sinew]

Doesn't matter really

I do wonder how those agents you abandon did afterwards

Probably dead or working for Black Tusk now

[mint citrus]

Sanders lives

She's at the Pentagon

[lilac mason]

It should be on the outskirts of DC, I looked at its map and it seems to be a fictional place called Beaver Bay or something similar

[ashen jungle]

The town where you start looks an awful lot like Maine.

makes sense that it's not all that close to D.C., as it's hinted that you travel to reach D.C.

[lilac mason]

Sanders is at the Pentagon yeah, and De La Cruz i think it was (the guy we had to revive) went to New York, we rescued him again in Town Hall intro

[round sinew]

Ah yes. I definitely remember this.

[lilac mason]

I recognized him because he still had the same outfit lmao

[gaunt ice]

Do they do regular things?like laundry,meal,sleep?

[lilac mason]

Ambience says they do, not us tho

[gaunt ice]

Idk,maybe we/they stay at Grand Washington?

[ashen jungle]

Before or after Kelso firebombed it?

[gaunt ice]

It’s not like she nuked the entire hotel Rivs

[ashen jungle]

IDK, she did burn down at least 4 floors of it, and IDK about you but I ain't staying in a building where a big chunk is missing out of the middle.

[gaunt ice]

Atleast it has a nice view

I mean,the massive hole gives it a opening to the street

[ashen jungle]

A nice view of a building code violation maybe.

tbh? I'd just go to the nice part of D.C. and stay in a different bed every few nights.

[gaunt ice]

How ‘bout inner rooms?

[ashen jungle]

clean out the corpses of the rich ppl, it'll be fine.

[gaunt ice]

It’s probably evac’ed before

[ashen jungle]

One of my agent's cosplays as a Hunter, so they're probably sleeping in the DCD building.

[gaunt ice]

What’s better,sleeping bags in a crappy safehouse underground or a half-burnt hotel?

How ‘bout meals?

Do we just go to a civilian McDonald?

[ashen jungle]

i think we can seperate eating from gameplay, as long as we don't log off we seem to not need sleep or food.

[gaunt ice]

I do think that we either have a sandwich or breakfast with Jared Nash while we’re fast traveling

[lilac mason]

This is why people live in a settlement

[ashen jungle]

I'm very happy being a murder hobo, thank you very much.

[lilac mason]

We also do not need food or sleep

Our stamina make even the most coked up hyena look like children, what with sprinting around the city nonstop and getting into firefights all 24 hours

[tepid ibex]

Were the LMB Rusher archetypes female in Div 1?

[ashen jungle]

When they say that the LMB are now Black Tusk, they don't mean they are literally a single unit-type ppl.

[tepid ibex]

Well I mean, pardon my confusion but every single rusher I killed in Div 1 seemed to be male I think. Is it canon that there were female ones we didn't see? Or are you saying like for example, a Sniper from the LMB became a Rusher for Black Tusk?

That would make sense I guess. Black Tusk trained them to be a Rusher

[ashen jungle]

No, I'm saying that LMB were integrated into BT, not copy+pasted in unit types.

[sleek plover]

Damn I hate LMB

and cleaners

[ashen jungle]

assuming it doesnt just turn into memes again.

Okay so was another member of the "spying on the White House" team that killed the secret-service guys, interesting.

[lilac mason]

Yeah B boy was hiding behind the secret service agents iirc

[ashen jungle]

Not a shock, Wyvern was at the spot too. Just outside the right hand door on a patio if you wanna see the "whole team" Echo.

[lilac mason]

Yeah, saw that one myself

Interesting how we never actually see Jack Bonney, while we already damn near got the whole team

[gaunt ice]

I’ve never seen Bonney before in missions?

[lilac mason]

Exactly

Hes like the only BTSU missing

[ashen jungle]

There's a rumour out there that Bonney is set to replace Bardon, which makes sense as most of the rest of his team are dead.

[lilac mason]

Yeah, that makes sense

[gaunt ice]

Maybe manhunt season 5?or dlc 3 around him?

[lilac mason]

I hope its gonna be something worthy of BTSU

[gaunt ice]

Bonney goes on a killing spree to save his best bud

[lilac mason]

Yeeting Bardon in a rehashed mission did the man injustice

[gaunt ice]

Imagine him being such a badass he’s just gonna John Wick 4 agents are once

[ashen jungle]

Let's not forget that Bardon is still alive, likely in a body-cast somewhere.

[gaunt ice]

WITH A PENCIL

[sleek plover]

I hope i can torture bardon

[ashen jungle]

remember how we talked about going too far sometimes?

[sleek plover]

with mustard and ketchup in hisneyes

and lots of wet wilies and wedgies

[cold bramble]

Humm

[sleek plover]

and than ill dress him in a full clown suit and have him marched around dc

while civilians and children throw trash and poop at him

[cold bramble]

One wrong move and he realistically kills you

Unrealistically you get ambushed

[sleek plover]

i mean he is apprehended

[lilac mason]

If echos are accurate, Bonney is of the Chungus archtype

[cold bramble]

Do you know how many bodies SHD drops?

[ashen jungle]

It's this seasons hottest album.

[cold bramble]

How many weapons lie around the streets of dc

XD

[sleek plover]

we can still have him in handcuffs

and blindfolds

and a ball gag

[cold bramble]

His a black tusk elite for a reason

[lilac mason]

Yeah realistically we'd keep the man in a jail cell or with his hand chained to hospital bed

[sleek plover]

still not gonna stop me from dressing him up in a clown suit

[cold bramble]

Some seals can break their wrist underwater to escape that

[ashen jungle]

I always assumed he was in a cell below the White House, in the president's bunker.

one way in, same way out.

[cold bramble]

If it we're me id just expose him to eclipse gas

Or dc52

[ashen jungle]

door strong enough to withstand a nuke.

nah you want to keep someone with that much knowledge of BT alive.

[sleek plover]

yeah with a clown suit

[ashen jungle]

remember, he was in direct contact with the Founder.

[sleek plover]

and water balloons thrown at him

[cold bramble]

Realistically he would kill himself before revealing

Unless you had something for him

[sleek plover]

thats what the gags for

[ashen jungle]

and a bell saying "shame"

[sleek plover]

Now youre talking!

[cold bramble]

A sign on his chest saying "im a bad boy i killed the prez"

[ashen jungle]

"my brother is the dad to my kids"

wait, wrong franchise.

[sleek plover]

no more like im a bad boy cuz im a fascist

[cold bramble]

Is he facist?

[sleek plover]

or im so sorry for this invasion

BTSU wants control

[cold bramble]

I feel facist gets thrown around these days

Control of a red zone a couple DZs

[ashen jungle]

He's not, but that user likes to use that word like I like to use "clarify"

[cold bramble]

XD

[lilac mason]

He does throws it around a lot aye

[sleek plover]

we can arm the settlement children with waterballoons with vinegar or paint water

and make them throw it at him

[cold bramble]

Tis pretty childish

[sleek plover]

thats the point

cause its shameful

[cold bramble]

But vinegar mix waterboarding is pretty effective

Or saltwater waterboarding

[sleek plover]

im degrading leader of btsu into a freaking childish prank victim

[cold bramble]

With shockrods

That feels not pg13

[sleek plover]

well because rivens said ik going to far with thw torture thing

but at least im not the one suggesting waterboarding with vinegar and saltwater

[cold bramble]

For information?

[sleek plover]

for justice

[cold bramble]

Plus thats pg13 as long as the hero wins

[lilac mason]

Well this game aint pg13 but it aint an ultraviolence galore either

[cold bramble]

Fair

I was taking a page out of the shalashaskas interrogation techniques

[lilac mason]

Or else we wouldve been performing glory kills on some poor soul and terrifying their squadmates into submission

(Which i wouldve been okay with that)

[cold bramble]

That would be interesting though

[sleek plover]

definitely, i hoped there were dismemberment in game like how we can do that in fallout

[ashen jungle]

it's actually MA15 here in Aus, which is reserved for more violent action movies.

[gaunt ice]

I do like the mobile chunga suit like Boomer in DH

[cold bramble]

Gibbing bodies is optional these days

[cold bramble]

psychological violence is pretty up there

[lilac mason]

Huh, im in aus too but i never noticed that

[sleek plover]

im a korean american in korea btw

[cold bramble]

Im murican in murica

[sleek plover]

been living in my cousins house for a while

[ashen jungle]

Yeah our rating system is F'd up.

[gaunt ice]

Wait,cutting off legs is 15+?

[ashen jungle]

When can you cut off legs in div2?

[sleek plover]

damn i hope we can

[lilac mason]

i would hardly be surprised considering all the bogans and mad coonts we have roaming around

[sleek plover]

wait, how rude is "bogan" supposed to be?

[gaunt ice]

Ah I thought you’re replying lmb

[ashen jungle]

"bogan" is our "redneck"

[sleek plover]

i heard tjats like an "N word"

oh

now i get it

[ashen jungle]

yeah its kinda regional though, and people outside of Aus really shouldn't use it unless you wanna get punched.

[sleek plover]

what about mad coonts? never heard of it before

[ashen jungle]

they're trying to say that other thing that will get you banned on here.

[cold bramble]

yo what do you think'll be special about fayes mission?

[sleek plover]

oh

[cold bramble]

Bogan is like wop

[ashen jungle]

absolutely is not

[lilac mason]

Said word equates to "crazy bastards"

[cold bramble]

Ive never heard or heard anyone get offended or know of bogan

[sleek plover]

ooohhh

[ashen jungle]

That....word you said is a national slur, no one uses that here.

[lilac mason]

Lmao i live in regional parts so i heard it a few times

[sleek plover]

im asian, im used to racism

[cold bramble]

Ive never heard anyone use either term

[ashen jungle]

Doesn't mean its okay to use here.

[cold bramble]

Fair

[sleek plover]

yeah i know, im just saying its kinda unexpectedly common to say such things in life in general

[lilac mason]

Fair

[gaunt ice]

Spamming hives+30 decoys while trying to one hit you with mantis?

[cold bramble]

Yehp

[gloomy sand]

yall think we're gonna get an expansion that's hunter based or nah

[cold bramble]

Sounds right

[gaunt ice]

Cuz she’s looking bland for a boss fight ngl

[gloomy sand]

after we kill faye I mean

[ashen jungle]

Faye has BTSU gloves, unless the ones on the Manhunt screen are a red herring.

[cold bramble]

I meam we all have a close connection to faye

[gloomy sand]

so what

[sleek plover]

like i always said, i want a bounty or a manhunt target which is a BT squad entirely made out of ex-LMB soldiers

[gloomy sand]

we have btsu gloves too

[cold bramble]

So i feel itll also be a lil bit psychological

[lilac mason]

I thought a fair few of BT archtypes got the gloves too

[cold bramble]

Thats your former acting leader through thick and thin

[gaunt ice]

I mean,if your co-worker is a mad ex-gf type,how are you suppose to be tricked into deep psychological bullshit?

[ashen jungle]

I thought so too, but they look a little too much like actual BTSU (compared to the base BT model) to be a coincidence.

[cold bramble]

I mean thats from the players pov not the characters

coincedence i think not

[gloomy sand]

yall think faye is gonna kill Kelso or smth?

[cold bramble]

Nah kelso will prolly get the cliche kill shot

[ashen jungle]

I've got a BT outfit tho, i can literally see it.

[gloomy sand]

most useless agent 101

agent Kelso.

[cold bramble]

faye is gonna pull some wyvern shit or sum

I meant fayes player connection not the glove x3

[lilac mason]

To be fair i think there may be a plot twist

[cold bramble]

idk what's gonna happen but i have my popcorn

[ashen jungle]

Kelso firebombed a munitions stockpile and nearly blew up an entire hotel full of Hyena's. She's more badass than us, as she did it entirely solo.

[cold bramble]

I mean rogues are less then useless

[ashen jungle]

I never got the Kelso hate.

[cold bramble]

that explosion looks badass as hell

Same

[gaunt ice]

I dare you say that again

[gloomy sand]

agent kelso is useless

literally no purpose in the game

[lilac mason]

Yeah K girl is a badass, she also saved Odessa and single handedly killed a whole group of hyenas having them surrounded

[cold bramble]

Lies dont come truths via repetition

[gloomy sand]

she doesnt even do damage in missions shes with you on

[gaunt ice]

Let’s pretend the 2 massive holes in GW was never there

[gloomy sand]

literally sits there

[gaunt ice]

Or how dc exist before we arrived

[sleek plover]

everyones sad about the noble squadron, but in that criteria wouldnt that put them in "uselss" category?

just saying "useless" crieria itselfs kind messed up

[ashen jungle]

No agent is "useless" if they're still alive. You gotta be a stone-cold awesome to get this far.

[cold bramble]

Yehp

while yes what kelso did at gw was badass she could have toppled the entire hotel killing everything/one nearby

Specially if your not rogue

Or disavowed

[gaunt ice]

With that arguement,Ortega is the most useless guy in the White House:v

[ashen jungle]

Explosives training is part of your SHD packet. It's mentioned in comms.

[gloomy sand]

he is though

[cold bramble]

I wanted the puppy to become a ablity

[gloomy sand]

hes just the mission narrator

[sleek plover]

maybe we can have own warhounds

[cold bramble]

summons a pack of rabbid wolves

[gaunt ice]

I am never given enough explosive actions in the game

[sleek plover]

@gloomy sand yeah and he commands the entirity of jtf

[ashen jungle]

I do love how almost any argument against an NPC can be entirely refuted by "just listen to the lore"

[cold bramble]

The homing launcher

[gaunt ice]

Everyone is useless?

[ashen jungle]

Yeah the technician RL is fun as hell.

[sleek plover]

yeah lets just go with that

[cold bramble]

I mean as a agent

[gaunt ice]

The Settlement leaders?

[cold bramble]

Faye is less then useless

[gaunt ice]

Useless-ness

[lilac mason]

And Kelso loves bombs too

[cold bramble]

Huh?

[gaunt ice]

But to be fair,she did lead the JTF in NYC for a while before Cold War guy came in

[cold bramble]

Yeah i mean now

[gloomy sand]

theres a reference to your div 1 player in div 2 by the way

In a voice file

[gaunt ice]

Now? Plan coordinator

[ashen jungle]

She was the commander for the entire Second Wave for months.

[lilac mason]

Ye Benitez mentiomed Faye and "her friend"

[gaunt ice]

Yeah^

Only like,twice

[sleek plover]

I wonder if there is any good first wave left , or have they all died or turned rogue?

[gaunt ice]

In 2 different comms

[gloomy sand]

nah theres an entire voice file dedicated to the player @lilac mason

[ashen jungle]

typical that they'd still get my Agent's gender wrong in an audio file lol.
half the NPC's call me a guy.

[cold bramble]

I think the first wave was rogue and who wasnt was killed

[ashen jungle]

Most of the 1st Wave died in the DZ, like most.

[cold bramble]

Which sucks

[gloomy sand]

"only 1 survived the crash, we'll see how long it takes for the city to eat him up and spit em back out"

[cold bramble]

Damn hardcore pvpers

[lilac mason]

Jog my memory, which one

[gloomy sand]

something along that

[ashen jungle]

I can vouch for that audio file existing.

[lilac mason]

I remember Benitez mentioning us and our deeds in a few comms, but nothing directly dedicated to us

[gaunt ice]

“Hit him!”
I don’t think my tomboy agent is that hard to mistake for a guy

[ashen jungle]

If it was just Div that did it, I'd be fine.

it seems to be a Ubisoft thing.

[sleek plover]

just noticed kestrel, magnus and circe are all wearing petrov masks

[ashen jungle]

Wildlands, Breakpoint, Div1, Div2, "get him".

[sleek plover]

alright, now adding petrov to ban list alongside sokolov

[lilac mason]

Hey do not diss Petrov

They look ugly but theyre alright

[sleek plover]

but considering those three out of 4 lau rogues are wearing

there is a high chance they support btsu like sokolov

[gaunt ice]

Imagine Lau’s actual name is “Providence”

Faye “Providence” Lau

Would you ditch every Providence piece?

Nope,that’s for sure

[sleek plover]

only if providence is funding btsu

like how sokolov is

[gaunt ice]

She’s working with them duh

[cold bramble]

Wait sokolov

[sleek plover]

if so, yeah ill do that

[cold bramble]

Like the guy who made the shagohod?

[sleek plover]

already dismantled entire sokolov gear

[cold bramble]

what is fayes callsign?

[sleek plover]

i think callsigns a rogue only thing

[cold bramble]

Yeah

nah keener had a call sign

[cold bramble]

our sokolov is just an arms dealer, nothing that interesting

[gaunt ice]

Joe

[sleek plover]

considering that, faye laus a rogue noob

[cold bramble]

joe mama

keener had a callsign of vanguard

[lilac mason]

We never did find out friendly agents callsign, only the ones going rogue

[gaunt ice]

Fuck man

[ashen jungle]

Lau never really got a callsign AFAIK, at least we've never been told it.

[sleek plover]

joe mama so

[cold bramble]

Faye is christian huh

[lilac mason]

We can kind of assume that our div2 agent has the callsign of "Sheriff"

But strangely enough all allied agents are referred to by name

[ashen jungle]

non-observational, so basically means she carries a cross and doesn't go to church.

[cold bramble]

Yeah

[sleek plover]

ill name myself Jacobin, after french revolution

[gaunt ice]

Well I mean if the trailers are canonical,then the trio should be the “Sheriffs”

[ashen jungle]

Sherriff isn't our call-sign, it's our code-name in the D.C. BoO.

[cold bramble]

harsher than before, and more aggressive. This may be attributed to Heather Lau, her younger sister, having been killed during a Riker attack on a settlement in Hell's Kitchen, which caused her to start drinking.

[sleek plover]

i thought its more of a nickname

[gaunt ice]

I just noticed that Lau holds something in her hands

[cold bramble]

She is rogue

[lilac mason]

That reminds me how i want to recall all the promotional and trailer agents

[gaunt ice]

Like a bracelet

[cold bramble]

Because alcoholism

[ashen jungle]

Her sisters jewellery.

[cold bramble]

And rikers

[gaunt ice]

I remember that motto:”We are the Division,and history will remember us.”

[sleek plover]

i drink to forget my alcoholism

[gaunt ice]

Wait

[lilac mason]

iirc Theres at least more than 10 agents if we take trailers as canon

Extremis trio, Coney Island squad, and NY squad to name a few

[gaunt ice]

How ‘bout Broken Dawn?havent read that yet but there’s 1 more?

[lilac mason]

Yeah someone needs to hit us up on Broke n Dawn lore

[gaunt ice]

If I have the money:(

[ashen jungle]

I stopped reading video-game books after I tried getting through the awful Halo ones.

[cold bramble]

isn't the ny squad noble? so they be ded

[lilac mason]

Nah, im talking about WoNY trailer squad

[gaunt ice]

Idk,have you tried the FNaF books?

[ashen jungle]

I refuse to believe those exist.

[gaunt ice]

I have watched every lore video and book audio despite never playing it

[lilac mason]

What are those accursed things and do they actually existed

[gaunt ice]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Nights_at_Freddy's:_The_Silver_Eyes

Ya better

[ashen jungle]

I'm not opening that link.

[gaunt ice]

😦

It’s not fanfic I assure you

It’s written by Scott Cawthon himself

Anyway,gonna try to find Broken Dawn this Lunar New Year

[ashen jungle]

It's on Amazon.

[gaunt ice]

It’s like what,20 bucks?

That’s enough for me to eat for 1 and a half month

[ashen jungle]

$15 in aus.

I'm sure you can get a digital copy for less.

[gaunt ice]

I think that Kestrel’s bug was intentional

Like,he’s a medic right?

I can make up a excuse and say he drugged us with smokes or something

[ashen jungle]

ballerina t-posing doesn't really count as "medication"

[cold bramble]

We're "smarter" then that

[gaunt ice]

Like Potomac?

“Hah!so predictable!”

That strategist is funny thou

[lilac mason]

"Cut them off and kill them!"

Ybh tho its almost like we werent even thinking and just bust through all attempts at stopping us like a bulldozer

[cold bramble]

fire noises

[gaunt ice]

I mean,if K really died and didn’t apprehend him,he’ll put on a tank suit and strap 30 bombs around him

[cold bramble]

she spared him

[gaunt ice]

I mean if she died

[cold bramble]

but she not dead

[gaunt ice]

And Isac runs on more than 1 generator and doesn’t broke when dropped into water

[cold bramble]

😏 inb4 AK pulls an hornet

[gaunt ice]

that reminds me of fast 10 or something,where Han just comes back to life

Lesson:”If you don’t see them die,they didn’t”

[cold bramble]

tbh we only have isac to go off of and we didn't see anyone pick up his body

[gaunt ice]

I mean,after that,how can you trust that crappy watch?

[cold bramble]

before warlords i would've trusted it fully

[gaunt ice]

I started sus’sing that after Potomac

[gaunt ice]

Arron in a trash can nearby like Kermit the Frog or Big Boss

Opticamouflage son!

[spare arrow]

I'd hazard to say that kelso sent a recovery team to liberty island to fully dismantle the launcher there and to pick up the bodies

[gaunt ice]

Maybe he’ll pull a Hornet,only this time it’s Neptune who comes in

agent leaves
Neptune:fuking hell I’ve been down there for 30 minutes

[gaunt ice]

Wdmy “I’d hazard”?

You high on backfire math again Aspect?

[spare arrow]

Its a way to say "im guessing that"

[gaunt ice]

Huh

new knowledge acquired

[spare arrow]

"I'd hazard to guess that blah blah blah"

[gaunt ice]

Oh and how’s that Backfire going?

On max stack how hard does it hit?

[spare arrow]

It works pretty well. I dont have the numbers, but i breeze through heroic missions like my HF build does, without using HF

[gaunt ice]

1 mil crit?

Sounds promising

[spare arrow]

Skyfir's been tinkering with the build and their number is 698k crits at full stacks, but their build is a bit different

Back to spoilers.

[cold bramble]

you know, if you follow the "Kelso is a rogue" camp, that just puts more validity to my claims

[lilac mason]

Well we were there and we took his lunch money

[spare arrow]

I mean, we've got no clue if kelso is gonna rogue on us. If she does, cool, of she doesnt, cool.

[gaunt ice]

I mean,say she is a red watch,what benefit does she gain from that?

[lilac mason]

I'd love it if she doesnt go rogue

[gaunt ice]

Bruh

[lilac mason]

Agents going rogue or dying is a clichè at this point imo

[gaunt ice]

I’d say a “whatever”,but there has to be 2 in an argument

[gaunt ice]

Agreed

[cold bramble]

never really thought about it beyond she is sus, i wasn't really part of that camp i just brought it up when aspect said kelso

[gaunt ice]

I mean,she could snap at any point

If she’s pissed,she might snap in the middle of BoO and guns blazing her way out

[lilac mason]

Truth be told i think all the progress we made wouldve made her less inclined to leave

Because we are succeeding and winning

[gaunt ice]

How does a person with a ex-girlfriend/broken up yandere personality like her pass the psych eval?in flying colors

[cold bramble]

definition of falling threw the cracks, her eval comms are pretty funny

her recruiters just let her through because they liked her

[lilac mason]

SHD eval process is manned by a bunch of clowns lmao

Theres always a skeptical person and a hype person

[gaunt ice]

The S in the name of the organization stands for Simps

That’s the only logical reason for the recruitment of Conley,K,and every rogue agent who came out of Arkham Asylum,and you can’t convince me to change my mind

[lilac mason]

Hearing about random agents helping us out and winning at it would be a nice change

[gaunt ice]

Simps Homeland Division

[tepid ibex]

Wraith from the last Manhunt is literally Harley Quinn bruh

[tepid ibex]

I remember you asked this question and had to search for the keyword "far" in the chat lmao. It says it's 1.81 Miles away from DC.

[drifting lotus]

On the last encounter you can see the Washington Monument.

[tepid ibex]

How large are the True Sons? Over 1000+? Because I'm looking at bounties and the "Haye's Battalion" is a target. And Battalions can consist of around 1000 people, so is this singular bounty trying to make the Last Man Battalion look like weaksauce? I mean are Battalions just worth having as bounties now?

[ashen jungle]

I think it's just a term they use, like how we're called "Sherriff" but it's not actually 1874.

[tepid ibex]

Hmmm

[untold blaze]

How big are the hovercrafts

And where did they come from

Because I swear they could be the biggest in the world of they actually existed

[short spindle]

https://youtu.be/nWcctrrkG1E

@untold blaze

[untold blaze]

I know

I should've been more specific sorry

The black tusk ones I meant

[short spindle]

lol maybe from russia

cause sokolova

[untold blaze]

True

That ones also from Russia so

But if the black tusk hovercrafts were to be compared with real life ones like the żubr would it be the biggest?

[short spindle]

i feel like the Black Tusk one is bigger

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qARB6R

[untold blaze]

By like 2 times lol

[short spindle]

yeah lol, idk how that humungous thicc hovercraft came from

it could be from a FOB somewhere in the ocean

[mint citrus]

Like... an oil rig?

[short spindle]

@mint citrus you know it

[mint citrus]

Sins of the Father intensifies

[short spindle]

@mint citrus i see an MGS man of culture

i suck playing againt somone's FOB lol

[cold bramble]

Ocelot was the best snake

😏 the only one who won infact

[gaunt ice]

Tusk with Metal Gear

“Now this is an Avengers level threat”

[lilac mason]

"Hey agent, I feel like stealth is our best approach. Hope you remember the basics of CQC"

MGS crossover stealth & melee update

[gaunt ice]

Pistols now deal more damage and guarantees a insta kill on headshot up to 5m

[lilac mason]

featuring Punished Kajika, the Mexican ninja

[gaunt ice]

Who....came back from the dead?

[lilac mason]

With an eyepatch and cybernatic horn

[gaunt ice]

“He’s here to kill me?”

-you

[lilac mason]

"I didn't have a quarrel with you agent! But now I do!"

machete rush from 200m away

[gaunt ice]

pulls out the flamethrower

finishes Kajika with Mozambique special

[jagged cove]

Confusion

[gaunt ice]

As if I know a shit,I agree with you

[lethal cedar]

i mean, for gameplay reason, Ubi always make big vehicles, even bigger, such as the Not-airforce-one in R6S that is x2 the size of actual one, as well as BTSU's hover that's 2/3 times bigger than Zubr

[gaunt ice]

I mean,a normal plane won’t have enough space for wooden doors,breaches and spaces for a gunfight,or else everyone will be spamming shotgun

And....it’s Russian in a American-themed game.Of course they’ll have bigass hovercrafts and robot dogs everywhere

[drifting lotus]

hrrrrrrrrm

[round sinew]

Unless you have specs on the black tusk hovercraft, I'm pretty sure it's relatively realistic

The real question is why they're using hovercraft at all

[short spindle]

because they can invade to any point they want with hovercraft unlike warships that needed to be in water

[tepid ibex]

Why doesn't the military have them shits

[lethal cedar]

The russians and we chinese have them, a kind of massive tank and troop transport as well as "make shift" barracks

[short spindle]

hovercraft?

[tepid ibex]

Black Tusk sized ones yes@short spindle

[short spindle]

@tepid ibex also which military are you referring? lol

[tepid ibex]

Ironic because Black Tusk could be Russian

[short spindle]

theyre tied to a russian businesswoman

[tepid ibex]

Any really, are there any that big?

[short spindle]

@tepid ibex well russian Zubr class hovercraft is real

[tepid ibex]

Whom seems to be pretty high-up in BT

[short spindle]

and china has one too

america has LCAC hovercraft but not that big as btsu

[tepid ibex]

It's just so convenient lol

[short spindle]

the btsu has close resemblance to russian zubr class hovercraft lol

btsu one has 4 giant fans

[tepid ibex]

Well ofcourse, you cant make yourself look too suspicious...

[tepid ibex]

@round sinew You know how we were saying LMB existed outside of NYC most likely? Do you think the LMB had always been wearing those armbands even before the outbreak?

[round sinew]

Which ones

[tepid ibex]

Wdym which ones? You talking about the ones regular difficulty ones wear and Legendary ones wear? @round sinew

I just mean do you think they wore armbands at all

[short spindle]

NYC is a city and NY as a state is a big place, if you mean outside NYC they could be wearing same thing

[round sinew]

I don't know what you mean by arm bands.

[untold blaze]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F549861435748892922%2F&psig=AOvVaw2teOR7Z3cjoP00HALmCxoi&ust=1610936101927000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPi47-Lyoe4CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ

on his left arm

red armband with the bird skull

[untold blaze]

Why do the black tusk controllers have a vr headset on lol

[tepid ibex]

I mean the literal armbands they all wear in-game https://images.app.goo.gl/yAtryEY1sGxVyrYo7

[lilac mason]

Ya it looks wack but i guess it allows them to see from the pov of their minitanks

[untold blaze]

Oh yeah

I think it looks cool

[sleek plover]

damn I hate you guys

[round sinew]

It's okay

I hate me too

[unreal widget]

As long as you hate everyone else but not yourself...

[sleek plover]

oh srry i meant LMB and their sympathizers

i mean see the youtube link charles bliss guy uploaded and their comments, one guy says lmb is doing a good thing and they would like to join them

[summer knot]

Should really be more specific on who your referring too 😛

[sleek plover]

yeah

damn I hate LMB

[gaunt ice]

Same

[late quiver]

I called the LMB "Left Mouse Buttons" because all they did was hold down the trigger.

[untold blaze]

I like to think lmb means lick my balls because that's what they want you to do

[short spindle]

you want colonel bliss lick your balls?

i mean other way around?

[cold bramble]

what

[ashen jungle]

Here, I'll start it off.

Outcasts did nothing wrong. @buoyant imp

[buoyant imp]

Outcasts deserve a taste of their own medicine

IE locking them up and letting them starve

Basically shoving them back from where they came.

Where they belong

[cold bramble]

tbh all the factions besides hyena's can be argued to have done nothing wrong

[fresh lava]

I mean, True Sons have had labor camps, they are sadistic too

[buoyant imp]

You don't need to spoiler tag it here.

[fresh lava]

Fair

Though it was still genchat, lmfao

[buoyant imp]

Labor camps< literally using suicide bombers

I believe I used that correctly

I haven't used that since I was 12

[ashen jungle]

Literally every faction that's not (current) JTF/peacekeepers are evil S.O.B.'s and you can't change my mind.

[summer knot]

And what about the trailer where True sons execute a civilian to "set an example".

[buoyant imp]

Rule by force

And fear

[fresh lava]

Or where Hyenas give a guy Russian roulette to play only for the gun to be fully loaded

[buoyant imp]

Anything to get the point across that shit needs to change.

[summer knot]

Anything the factions do can be put behind the same logic of "fear/force"

[fresh lava]

Murder is not a great way to show an example :|

[ashen jungle]

Are we forgetting that every faction holds civilian executions in the middle of the street on the regular.
They're so common that it's an activity.

[buoyant imp]

True Sons actually had a plan for the future though

[fresh lava]

Nah

[buoyant imp]

Hyenas were more anarchists than anything

[summer knot]

Every faction?

[ashen jungle]

Every enemy faction.

[fresh lava]

Hyenas were just rioters on crack

[buoyant imp]

Yeah

They were kinda just... Empty in my opinion

Rikers had a story. Hyenas... Not so much.

[summer knot]

Never seen the underground/broken.. sewer guys do an execution..

Just saying

[buoyant imp]

Yeah speaking of

Who the fuck are those guys?

[ashen jungle]

Not the activity, but you can see them in the street "threatening civilians".

[summer knot]

There is no real Proof as to who they are.

[buoyant imp]

Also who are those larper guys in Santa hats?

[summer knot]

Judging by random collectibles they are just civvies who went into hiding underground and like most people had to build up arms to defend themselves, hence why you rarely see them and they are so quiet, they come to the surface for supplies and that is it.

[buoyant imp]

I believe they're cannibals

[ashen jungle]

The only thing that theory doesn't work with IMO, is that you can find the Underground faction in the DZ.

[buoyant imp]

Or just an sect of outcasts.