#division-universe
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Keener is charismatic and witty, and a classic psychopath
Indeed.
Let's agree to disagree on the charismatic part
I say a great manipulator hehe.
It does tickle me that ISAC's voice actor's last name is Keener.
Same haha
Keener is charismatic in the "Gets what he wants" terms, not the "nice to have around" part.
Keener’s lost son idk
Brandon: Aaron, similar enough.
also a manipulator need to be charismatic
I'd argue that's more manipulative than charismatic, but I guess I can see both sides.
But really,isac is dumb
not in a good way
“Searching for Way our of the vault.Zero matches”
My thoughts too.
ISAC is an AI programmed to do a job, he's as smart as people made him. I like to think that he was messing with Ortega cause he's not authorised to use him.
he's just too nice to say "get away from my Agent"
laughs in first wave rouge
if i recall keener used to be in stock exchange, that job requires a lot of talks and persuasion
laughs in using more than 2 skills at the same time
Keener was a Future's Trader. Smug wall street creep.
there you go lol
says so in the Div1 loading screen
Well at least he was a nice guy before this whole thing happened
hhhmmm
"As a former Future's Trader, Keener always saw himself as the smartest guy in the room"
he's the kind of person who'd run over someone in a wheelchair to get a good parking space.
One question:who’s Mark and why is Keener taking him?
he is a classic psychopath, psychopaths can blend in normally but sick inside already
Guilt
He kinda saw it as a way to make up for the probably hundreds of innocents he's caused to die by that point.
Mark and Sarah, the audio logs are great actually.
Before he did all of this,he talked about some philosophy about being a agent and the Phoenix logo to one of his teammates
I'm honestly weary about considering his logs in Div1 to be canon at this point. Keener is so radically different that it's like he had an evil clone.
At one point he wips our a Batman voice
Events probably changed him dramatically.
i didnt realise his VA was in Horizon.
“Who cares about New York’s Bravest?”
“I c a r e”
neat!
ptsd probably as well. 😦
Lol, he played St. Peter. Okay now i get it.
I low key expected a Batman joke when we fight him
Think about this:some of the most well trained special units in the world,equipped with cutting-edge technology,babysitting some civilians
Like lol,shouldn’t that be Benitez job?
His banter was hilarious in the fight lol.
I'm surprised there isnt haha.
He be like”lol noob”
"this missile im firing will fix bad backs" etc
I would imagine he noscoping you and screaming mom get the camera
lololol
not memes from 2014 lol
Well the game takes place around that time,so make sense to me
2 years after, but close
“Hornet get the camera!”
One thing:why would anyone in this world screams out loud”I’m realoading”in a middle of a gun fight?
I do wonder how our second wave agents from div1 are doing. Cant remember any lore objects talking much about them.
when youre in a team, it helps to know if they can cover you
But don’t they have comms?
iirc the canon is fluid so they're doing whatever you say they are.
ive heard everything from "went to DC and we're technically playing alongside them" to "dead in the OG BoO".
im going to ignore that
my preferred canon is that they stayed in NYC and are running missions for Haven.
have you all heard of ubisoft new mobile game? Elite Squad?
Has division agents and rogue in there too.
No stop,pls Bon
most generic title possible, just add "kill" and "battle" to it.
Even a small little story with rogue event.
It’s like Raid but Ubisoft
yea
Raid:Shadow Legend shit
so it literally plays itself?
i saw a vid on it, you can literally have the game auto complete everything.
Almost,sometime you use skills like flash shields
for the most part. You can have these command skills.
is it better or worse than Deus Ex: The Fall?
That is the biggest joke I’ve seen since Siege Roof entry
Worst
thats not possible
Well I only brought it up due to them adding rogue Faye event.
At least Deux has a story you can get invested in
no no, Deus Ex: The Fall was a spin-off mobile game
its now on PC if you want to make your eyes bleed
The art style is ok,but cursed if applied on any of the Tom Clancy parts
Like,imagine Chibi Kelso
That’s cursed
tom clancy licence has had Predator in it, art style doesnt matter.
Yea I only play it for the division stuff rofl
But it’s so stupid
im an old WF player, i actually like bobble heads.
There is no explanation for anything that happens in the game except for a Spiderverse intro
Well it just breaks the immersion
hows that infinite fire chem launcher treating your immersion?
Not really? A game's artstyle is just that, an artstyle
Fair enough
But really,bobble head Tachanka
If you want to be immersed, play an immersive game. Elite Squad is a top down battler. Makes sense that all the characters look kinda wierd, its to make it so you can understand who they are at a glance.
Bruh
Its why I dont complain much about graphics though I like a lot of older games probably why I dont lol.
Yeah that was a loose point.But the idea still stands:it’s Raid:Ubisoft Legends
Thats fair.
I signed up for that early because I was expecting a tactical shooter
I like to compare it to swgoh more then raid.
What game?
The way the game is played,it’s so Raid-ish
Oh that
Still doesn’t change much
Does R6S and div share the same timeline?
Cuz there’s the Riker guy with the flash shield
hes a polish police
i dont think so
R6 and Ghost recon share the timeline i believe
I always wonder if all tom clancy stuff is related but seems like its not for the most part.
Well it can be,you just need to open your mind a bit(and a big ass tinfoil hat)
though we see stuff in ghost recon that has splinter cell stuff.
From what we've seen, nearly everything tom clancy made except Div shares the same timeline.
splinter cell share timeline too
Wasn’t Ghost Recon and Splinter Cells are more futuristic?
Like,much later on the timeline?
Timeline. Not exact time.
Like,it would make sense to say that div->splinter->ghost?
man, if we get an echelon specilization in div, that would be neat
Invisible suit?
stealth gameplay but, theres no such stealth gameplay in div
They have a third eye but can’t aim for the head
I'm saying that Div is seperated from the timeline.
^
Or atleast seems to be.
oh man that be nuts.
Wouldn’t make much sense to me since...you know....Tom Clancy is before the title?
well in ghost recon you dont need to be stealthy either but you get the tech. Very similar to some of the shd technology.
Yeah, he wrote it.
God I don’t even own R6,GC or SC
Doesnt mean its the same timeline.
The events from The Division never seemed to have happened in the other games in the franchise.
Sure, it shares an author, but not a timeline.
@trail wind i dont know why massive cant do it like in wildlands, it will open up more contents
Well it’s kinda on a CW trend here,if we’re taking it your way
the only game share all timelines are elite squad mobile game
The current game breaks the original timeline for it to fit in newer storylines
Yo, operation Nightmare is cancelled
any idea what was the operation: nightmare?
It was going to be (according to some) a horde-style mission set in a repurposed Kenly College.
Yeah,I said earlier in General that I will delete my maxed Nemesis if that turns out to be an apparel event
It was confirmed to be an apparel event. RIP your Nemesis.
sounding like its going to be apparel event lol
Well it's a nothing event now. Not happening
i had a hunch it will be an apparel event
It was going to be an apparel event coinciding with the in-game mission event, but the mission itself was cut. The apparel event is staying, however.
My bet is that it will be next years April Fools or Halloween,when Covid got better
Next year Halloween
Bro this game won't be around that long.
bet you a dollar
The game not that bad.
Well there is still year 3
What's in year 3?
I've seen worse lol.
Unannounced as of yet.
Anniversary in March, so expect maybe an expansion then.
The last one flopped,but it still lived for 3 years
div1 made bank lol
But theres a so-called "secret beta" soon, according to some.
I have Hunt Down the Freeman in my Steam.
Amateurs
I don't expect there to be any new content after Season 4. Which is fine with me, the game has had a good long cycle.
I mean,people didn’t like that
Div1 had the highest day1 sales of any ubisoft games in history
At first
it was a meme to hate div1 when it first dropped, let it go.
But the downgrades!
witcher 3 had downgrades
every game has downgrades of some sort between concept and release
"but muh downgrades" it was still a solid game. The game didnt look AS GOOD as the trailers, but thats to be expected.
remember, that was a 3 year gap between that 1 trailer and release
Welcome to every game ever lmao
Comparing it to e3 was like comparing Doom 2016 to Doom on Gameboy
thats just hyperbole
div 1 was the most realistic game i played when it was released
div1 trailer (which I watched about an hour ago) looks like crap now
True thou
It looked amazing for when it came out. Full stop.
i was awed by its animation and gameplay
I got invested in video games when I first saw that DZ trailer ngl
i was clueless about it when it was still a trailer lol
Compared to 2 or 1?
compared to modern games
yall are talking about it like it was the second coming of jesus
Trailers are meant to do one thing: sell you on buying a game. They will do everything in their power to do that job, including out-right lie. the trailer looked great in 2013, still looked good in 2016, but it was clearly not the final product.
What. Is that the first game you played?
Shadow Vanguard
Google "killzone 2 gameplay trailer" to see just how easy it is to lie to people.
But I was really into computer games with the trailer
Ok you win
You know,that R6 mobile spinoff?
No
Search for Shadow Vanguard on yt,some of the greatest shit I’ve ever played(as a child)
which rainbow 6 mobile spinoff
Was a mobile FPS, based on the R6 books.
Yeah there's been several mobile spinoffs of rainbow six games.
None have done amazingly, to boot.
Oh. That's why I never heard of it. It's a remake, not an original game.
wasnt there one on n-gage
Lol
i regret every day that i ever owned one
Ubisoft had success with the two Assassin's Creed titles on mobile, but those were original games.
Identity and Rebellion
Rebellion was ported to console right?
Wait,are you Riven with a different name or a different guy?
Wait you’re a girl?
Lmao, but still NSFW.
Uhh. Maybe? Might've been.
i remember there being one of them on console that started with an R that had the first female protag
Girl gamers are really epic
jesus, just stop.
@gaunt ice off-topic. Bad.
Sorry
im getting second hand embarrassment from just thinking about this situation.
Where were we again
I'll bonk you with the bat and send you to horny jail.
Sorry dude
Yeah,good luck trying to bonk me halfway through the planet
your dropped spaghetti is plenty target enough
That wasn't Rebellion. That was... Uh. Liberation. With Aveline.
Liberation, thats it. There's another one where you play as Kenway's dad tho
Unity still holds up, TBH. But thats off-topic.
Rebellion was the chibi collect 'em all game set in the Inquisition.
okay yeah lets veer away from AC talk
So, how are we feeling about Faye being the next target?
Bad.
I like that Massive literally gave her an eye-patch once she turned into a villain.
i wanna put her on another eyepatch
Patchy the Rogue
Her lieutenant has two peg legs. Peggy the Rogue
i think she was on a cane in div 1 lol
crutches in div1
ah righ lol
No but really, since I figure season 4 is the last content for Division 2, I'm not looking forward to it because it's going to feel like going out with a whimper than a bang.
she didnt have eyepatch in div 1 too, just bandage over her head
Manhunt for Lau is just ending WONY's storyline, setting up the next one
i really dont know what will happen after season 4
im betting it wont be the final content drop
But I don't think there's going to be another entire new year of content.
spoilers for anyone who's still yet to do Schaeffer's mission: sokolova
it can be another div installment
I doubt Sokolova will be addressed in Division 2 Tbh.
hunters arent just seasonal contents
Division 1 ended after about 2 years of full content. I don't think Division 2 will be much longer in content for any reason.
they need to be another new expansion or new game
I'm willing to be proven wrong, but I just don't see any reason Ubisoft has right now to extend the lifespan of the game beyond Lau's manhunt.
they were part of the story of div 2
It's shaping up even more so to look like how they ended Breakpoint: In a whimper.
anything more than that is another arc probably
oh so its the "game bad" time again? tea break.
Tea break indeed.
Breakpoint was suddenly ended after half the content was cancelled. Now we're seeing Nightmare get cut back for season 4. So unless they're planning something absolutely huge, I don't expect much in terms of post-season 4 content.
Why do y'all see genuine opinions as "game bad"?
i really dont know what will happen after season 4
This isn't game bad, this is comparing DLC content and timelines of Ubisoft games to determine the continuing lifespan of Division 2.
Y'all shit on me for doing the comparisons by saying I'm just going "game bad" but offer no alternative reason for why the game would have Year 3 content.
There's currently not much evidence or reason Ubisoft has for Year 3 versus developing a new game.
...there's a pandemic happening
^^^
That's half the reason Breakpoint got rushed out. The other half being Breakpoint had a tepid reception post-launch, but a big reason was the sickness.
I just don't think Division 2 has the DLC lifespan of, say, R6 Siege.
Honestly thank God for that. No game needs 10 years of DLC support.
we haven't had a new Rainbow Six since Siege dropped
Ye.
and idk about you, but I would like some fresh Vegas or Vegas 2 style of storytelling and gameplay right now
I dont really play r6 so I know nothing on those
We got Outbreak teased, but, uh, I think it got canned? It's been like 2 years of silence on the project lmao.
I played Vegas 2 religiously, man I miss that game
More R6 games get cancelled than they do released.
I hope Outbreak got canned
I'd rather just have R6:Q as a gamemode in Seige itself.
I mean the limited time gamemode was hella fun but a zombie Rainbow Six game, really?
Eh. I'm a Ubisoft shill. I would've played it. I don't know if I would've liked it, but it could've been produced well.
could've easily been a new IP or something, I mean the zombie game craze ended long ago but I like shooting or bashing zombies when it is pretty well done
Haven't heard anything about Outbreak since the pandemic though.
Dying Light, Resident Evil 2 remake and Dead Rising 3 levels of well done
i wonder why
I think it got the Patriots treatment Tbh. Dead in development.
Yeah. They got pretty far in development for Patriots. But it got canned for being too edgy.
you dont think they thought it'd be in poor taste to release a game talking about a fictional pandemic when over 250, 000 peope have died of a real one?
in the US alone
Hey, it's still getting content in a pandemic lol.
its very, very different and you know it
Playing this game during the lockdown was surreal
How is this very different but "alien mutants" is in poor taste?
dude, some shit in real life that is happening during this pandemic happened in events before it all went to shit in Division lol
alien mutant people
its about the name guys, cmon. It's not that complex.
....okay - what
imagine if the new cod was called "Corona" because it was about taking down a corrupt royal family
I... Would be cool with that story
so would i, but not during a global pandemic.
tbh CoD would probably make it all about PMC's somehow anyway
It's a good thing Pandemic studios didn't live to see this day.
EA smothered them to keep the world safe
Good.
fresh coat of paint
Nighthaven bad, yes
Where's my Siege-Division crossover where we hunt Nighthaven?
CoD is still on my bad-list for making "every country in south america" the villain for no reason.
I love how there is so many evil PMC's that help bad guys in movies and videogames
its just weird Activision.
Ghost was a... Weird game.
still doesnt beat the creep factor of Homefront though, not CoD but jeez that was creepy.
Homefront was good.
the concept of the entirety of a South American alliance invading the US and actually winning was kinda funny to me
"Jump in Mass Grave" was a prompt in Homefront.
not lay down, not respectfully shuffle. Jump.
but high tech unified Korea, yeah that was creepy, also I only played the "sequel" to that game
I maintain my stance. It was a hell of a ride.
Press X to do Electric Shuffle through Concentration Camp
Homefront: The Revolution, I still love the way you could just turn your regular M4 into a grenade launcher or LMG on the run
as funny as that is, in a morbid way, back to Spoilers
When do I get to jump in a mass grave of Outcasts?
rogues poopoo
imma take the opposite stance otherwise we just all agree.
when you have access to green poison vaccines
outcasts did nothing wrong.
Ah yes. The BSAV. The thing that will never exist
weaponizing a virus is wrong and cringe
Outcasts should be able to pile bodies into elevators until the cable snaps.
damn i really hate LMB
Damn
lol
Weaponizing a virus is based and smallpoxpilled
what the hell
Bioterrorism good
Bioterrorism cringe
Ah, dont mind him.
but their snitch card guys creeps me out though
Gotta say I never expected to see American suicide bombers in a game. I'll give Ubisoft credit for the balls of that choice.
Like holy shit you madlads actually did something edgy
I mean they have a plausible ideology to present them as death cult
"In the name of God and Liberty!" -last words of an american suicide bomber
Amen
The ideology is iffy, I'm just giving them points for the stones it takes to just add suicide bombers.
I mean revenge is a good cause
And then add a cutscene where you watch them blow up a group of civvies
That takes some edge
a sympathizable cause for sure
No it's a terrible cause
"Gov't locked up sick people so let's genocide everyone"
They're bad guys.
say what you will, but the Emeline shaw cutscene was damn satisfying
"We got fucked over by a group of an organization that later went rogue and is fighting that organization so let's fuck over everyone else"
^ Outcast logic™️
especially the part where they line up and takes turns
Revenge is a beautiful thing
Best faction are Hyenas. They just wanna loot and sell drugs. Super realistic.
Outcasts could fit as that sort of ally that you REALLY don't want to be associated with, but you don't have any other options so it's them or nothing
Gross no
Well the best faction of all time is pretty much civ militia
Amen
I just think outcasts are best among the evil ones
LMG civvy squad gang
just spawn more civilian militia and give them tuned out guns, they'll dominate the world and kill them all 
But I really do think that Hyena+Riker alliance could be interesting, plus them and west coast gangs, they can make a nationwide syndicate
God bless you Massive for actually making your NPC allies that roam the streets an actual threat to enemies
and tbh whats left of outcasts and cleaners might eventuallt die out, there new leaders got divisioned and their numbers are dwindling
maybe they will die out killing each other
True son remnants pretty much would either go raider, join the aforementioned syndicate or conscripted by BTSU
anyways, damn I hate LMB
thats gonna be my new way to say hello in this chat
@sleek plover <—— I feel like this guy is a serial killer irl
Nope just korean american guy with anarchist beliefs
and... i just really hate LMB, thats all
but serial killer? oh no never
he sounds like a resistance trying to throw off tyrants tbh
Yeah thats exactly what I envisioned my agent would be
besides as of me hating LMB, thats the reason why i started the game
We know
an extremist agent to be precise, but could be dangerous if lost an awareness
exactly
I deserve my own faction, french revolution themed guillotine wielders
lol kelso lost me at her thighs
Kelso my qween
@sleek plover what would be the name of your faction?
Either "The Parade* or" "The Guillotine"
I guess, but thats too much imagination for the day
Kelso during the WONY intro cinematic cutscene is just chef’s kiss
I just do my "I hate lmb grrr" schtick mostly because there are guys who defend them among division fans
Some even said "division should lay down arms and accept new order" or sth.
lmfao i was "wait this guy sound familiar"
This dude needs a server tag as a certified LMB hater and I need a server tag as a certified Kelso simp
yeah you told me it was all about acting out as your agent, RPer to the fullest
Yeah, one of the more crazy things I said here was "Bliss died too clean a death, I wanna aztec sacrifice him in front of statue of liberty"
I remember that one
And like i said before, i only did this rp shtick mostly because they are those who find them faultless among the fandom
Bliss death is anticlimactic imo
and there were even that one guy who RPed as bliss in this chat
I remember him! Back before i was a mod
I mean like i said he died too clean a dearh
he should be tarred and feathered or sth
executed
and here goes my "aztec sacrifice to lady liberty" comment
tbh what are the chances of some 1 to 4 agents of taking down a Blackhawk with B U L L E T S
Some really good bullets?
assault rifles can penetrate chopper rotors
not sure about smg and shotty though lol
Well im happy we could fight ridgeway on foot
You’re telling me there was not a single RPG in that entire LMB compound?
I usually use incendiary grenades when fighting against true sons and BTSU
nope
mostly because burning is painful, i hope they suffer before they die.
burn, baby burn!
It is so satisfying when I snipe the elite grenadier guys and use their white phospo grenades against them
Also i always carry a aa12 in case whenever I see true sons flag painted in the wall i can shoot them out
I saw a post on the r/division2 subreddit
where there would be specialization ammo types
ex. Riot Foam M32
I think some of my works are also shown in division photos chat, i uploaded them in my twitter
and I really want that now
M32 Riot Foam monkaS
M32 Oxidizer 😳
Space Admin HQ normal version has the best boss fight in the game and you can’t change my mind
Lincoln has the best bossfight
Wrong
opinions opinions
Well what I do think what we need is a friendly customizable warhound
Space Admin, lights out, with red scenery lighting, True Sons Tank with an incendiary grenade launcher and lots of fire
And best song in the game’s soundtrack
Master Sergeant Steve “Junior” Quiroz
He also has the most cinematic fight in the game too
Because of my reasons above
welp i do found hyenas have the best enemy faction design among div 2 enemy factions
I mean combining green smoke and gasmasks do have some kind of post apocalypse gangster vibes
Does that room in Wall Street count, the one playing the rock song?
Rock Nation- Chris Gouldstone
that's it
Can't go wrong with smoke and gas mask to have some post apocalyptic military swag
Yeah,as if blown to pieces in a helo,surrounded with people who swore loyalty to you,dying and watching everything they’ve built for collapse is not painful enough,all by a single dude who runs a dps build
that's more hilarious than painful
But really,they could have made a cutscene or something to dramatically ends it
50 Thousand people used to live here, now it's a ghost town.
The server has its peak hours and its quiet hours. Dont gotta point it out.
Yeah i know
So, like, 2 weeks until we get Season 4, yeah? Or 3 weeks?
3 days.
@round sinew Keep an eye on the #news-and-announcements channel. The most recent post says December 8.
Oh wow. That's sooner than expected.
shh
Well damm,it is really a ghost town now,even at peak hours
We are 2 days before a major update, of course no one is hanging around the Spoiler chat.
Ok
What if we don't get Season 4? 👀
riot
Rioters are pretty dead
Idk,does the dude with the arrow count?
after playing the schafer mission finally, i strongly believe faye is going to be revealed as a double agent, hunters were watching her rogues long before they were "called in" because the agents failed :x
Double agent for us or against us?
for us
cant really explain it well but the way BT criticized the rogues pretty much fit all of us
hmm
quick question, bardon comms can be farmed from the same prime manhunt mission?
yeah run it a couple times more and you should finish up the set
Yup. Its because the other ones have two "bosses" and bardon's has him and the hunter. Hunter doesnt drop any comms, so you gotta run it 4 times
oh that make sense
saw a youtuber post about division 3 has there been any official announcement or is that just bs clickbait
yeah typical white youtubers
figured
if there's one,it wont be announced anytime soon
since covid and its a 1 year gap between part 1 and part 2 release
i dont see why anyone should expect any sequels of any online games ever again, since updates and dlc and seasons are a thing
typical white youtubers? What do you mean, than?
overwatch 2 was unnecessary imo
well not to be racist,but like 6 out of 10 youtuber who clickbaits are white
That doesnt mean anything. Quit the race accusations.
its just a opinion
chill man
Doesnt matter. Quit the racist stuff. Doesnt matter who they are, dont bring race into it.
ok
damn I hate LMB
... alright even Im getting tired of myself saying this instead of hello
so im just going to not do that
Heehoo heehoo can't wait to kill Faye Lau
Lol
Idea: Division 1 agent joins you for the mission to kill Faye. Just swings in and fucking decapitates her.
I'm 100% okay if this happens
Faye's gonna have to really maintain her cover if they're gonna do what I think they're gonna do
I didn't buy her villain act for a second
Her aim isn’t going to be very good with only one eye!
Bet you she gets a stupid powerful gun
Bet you she dies pitifully like every other Rogue agent
I really hope it was Kelso that interrogated him
I say we capture her and let her and Paul Rhodes go at it in a cage fight!
Just hash out their problems old school
Paul would win. He's fueled purely by New Yorker rage at this point.
Pure Brooklyn Rage
Yup, he really doesn’t like her! Lol
He doesn't like anything. That's his shtick.
Ya but remember walking up to the settlement when first arriving in WoNY....man was bent all to heck! ...and after Division 1 all that hostility festered for 7 months....I thought he was going to open fire on us walking up!
He should've honestly, what with his recent experience with SHD agents.
He kicked one all of 'em out of Haven
Mmhm agreed ...NY got the shaft almost as bad as those in Roosevelt...not quite as bad as DZ people but ya, NY got screwed
And he’s a grumpy bastard but only trying to protect his people
rhodes honestly gets on my nerves - i can understand he wants to protect his people but he really gets on my nerves
Lol he’s a grumpy gus for sure, he does tame down a bit towards you, but ya he can get on your nerves
He seemed to almost like the Agent in D1
That was before a group of rogue agents destroyed the BoO and killed a shitload of people.
Mmhm he felt let down/betrayed we couldn’t save them...or ourselves
Was there ever an explanation as to what happened to the Post Office?
i wonder when will it click in rhodes head that most if not all of the agents that went rogue are from the first wave
but yeah i skip cutscenes that involve him in it because he irritates me that much
😂
it's like
roy: -speaks-
me: yeah i understand what he's sayin--
paul: -speaks-
me, pressing and holding down x to skip: nope
Yeah Rhodes has sucked since back in Div1, but he grows on you over time.
he does - but when he opens his mouth it reminds me of how much he gets on my nerves
Div1 rhodes was way more interesting, at least back then he kinda grew to see that SHD Agents weren't the enemy.
div2 he really went 'i do not see' when he saw how rough it was going for the agents that were in new york
it's that meme of the blindfolded person walking past an obvious crime.
after what happened at the start of wony it would be understandable of Rhodes to take a lot of step backs and completely distrust Division agents again
rhodes was gone and in haven when the start of wony happened
he was a complete asshate before it all went down
I honestly think they just didn't want to develop his character and defaulted to his personality from Div1.
but even after we showed up, killed all the big boss rogue agents that were harassing Haven, and also killed Keener, he was still like "you kinda sus bro"
that's when I said to him 'Rhodes you ungrateful sad sack of shit"
Benitez was a real homie though
yeah - that is my big problem with him - he sees the agents that have been doing everything for them and helping and he was still talking shit throughout
Rhodes by the end of Div1 liked us though, he started to see that we weren't the enemy here.
Not exactly a complex story, but there it was.
That's what I'm saying, they just defaulted his character back because most ppl didn't finish Div2's storyline and I guess they didn't wanna bother catching people up.
another thing that made me raise an eyebrow is when he said he never trusted faye - when he clearly started to in div1 along with a div1 agent
also him going for the lo blow and saying it was faye's fault about what happened to her sister or something he said about hell's kitchen
Yeah that annoyed me too. They did quite a lot of character development and it was super confusing running through WONY.
It's why I'm unsure about putting an alt through it.
every among us crewmate ever
'yeah you saved nyc but i dont really trust you cuz i like it'
Why cage fight for post lau capture?
just simple head on a pike would work both of those fascist scums
Get a hobby.
playing division 2
i dont get what youre trying to say
this
Trained spec-ops fighting a fat nerd.
it'd be funny for all of the 5 seconds it lasts.
exactly
I mean Rhodes is annoying but him and Lau are hardly.....that thing LMB called them.
Lau committed Treason, she's either getting captured and held or (more likely) gonna die in the fight.
if you want this to be fair,give Rhodes a minigun
AFAIK Lau isn't even in NYC anymore, why even mention her and Rhodes in the same sentence?
yeah
Paul does have military experience, although he could've just been an engineer with no actual combat training or something idk
I doubt Rhodes has more combat training than a division agent.
I actually think I get why they mentioned Rhodes now, he was an Engineer with the LMB.
no combat experience, just technical.
and so does a jtf
but they cant even kill a fucking thug with a pistol properly
What? Rhodes was the chief engineer of the JTF, he's not a soldier.
Paul just pokes out her good eye then taunts her into the burn pit
5 bucks says he'll lose his arm first
LMB Contractor too.
He has enough rage against her....but she’s not totally helpless...trained and vicious
He left the LMB long before Green Poison hit. Over a decade actually.
rage isnt gonna be enough for a spec ops
Meh either way I said cage match...so she beats him, now she has food
She ain’t going anywhere
y'all need to get out more
you guys are either sick or took too much drugs
she lost her sister recently for god's sake
Pot, meet kettle
Recently, pre-WoNY atleast
yeah
i dont get it?
How pre-WoNY, we cant tell.
We know that it was post-Div1 campaign and DLC's, pre WONY opening attack.
So not THAT recent.
yeah but still
I think it was post-Hurricane. Since that took out a few Agents alone.
"she should be absolved of all wrongdoings because she lost her sis recently" is what i'm hearing
She is a traitor to the state
We can tell 100% if we ever find out exactly when the Hell's Kitchen attack happened.
well i mean it does not justifies every she does
It justifies nothing. Plenty of people lost family and didn't turn to murdering civilians.
Or even working with civilian killers.
Black Tusk are likely gonna be tried for war crimes and attempted genocide if things go back to normal.
Everyone who sided with them is in deep, deep trouble.
hmm... I wonder what apparel events they could have
Not really a spoiler, but Nightmare has been turned into an Apparel Event instead.
oh...
They showed off the cosmetics we can get in it. We can finally put together a ghillie suit that's not locked to Sharpshooter.
so did they release what the nightmare event was supposed to be if it is canceled?
ok
this will save some time, this is everything we know about it https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/3/22151290/the-division-2-codename-nightmare-canceled-release-dates-update
Out of curiositiy:were there 2 Riven before you?
There can be only one.
is it allowed to discuss manhunt spoilers in here?
Any div2 related spoilers: yes.
what happens if you kill the hunter in the manhunt for schaeffer? i got owned and didnt manage to kill him
You get his mask.
and this mission is the only place you can get it?
Yep.
You can always re-try it to get the mask. You'll have to do it multiple times for the comms, anyways.
i see. i could do hornet mission on heroic but this was too tough
Hunters are tough.
^
think of them as kinda halfway between rogues and agents.
yeah they're definitely tougher than npc rogues
I kinda disagree tbh, it depends on where you're fighting them and how good you are in that kinda location.
yeah for sure
I mean for control points the 2 rogues that sometimes spawn I find pretty easy cause I have cover and 5 nps to help me
but yeah when they spawn in solo heroic missions it's pretty rough
I'd take Hunters over Rogues any day. At least Hunter spawns are mostly locked.
I think also I got owned cause I was using perfect glass canon
was so not ready for the fight
if i die at the hunter part in the manhunt,do i get to fight him again the next time i do the mission?
if you restart the mission, I believe yes
We DEK if there will be a year 3 tbh
well tehre should?
Nothing's been confirmed for year 3 yet.
well i mean it would be nice to have one,since part 1 lived for 3 years
huh, guess Schaeffer never really liked Lau, wouldn't be surprised if he gives her up.
if div 3 happens, it will be about mega companies that drive the war economy
like sokolova probably own the sokolov
it will be global instead of NY-DC
Belstonea!
and checked the room, im in the right room thank god lol
im interested on how are other countries in this setting
and Lau was a sniper before she got appointed as shd coordinator
having an eye patch probably help her more, and bardon jokingly she got an eye implant
must be a stolen shd tech
I got that Comm about 30mins ago and you're misremembering it a little.
Lau said that she can't be a sniper for Schaeffer because no depth perception, he responded with that she's really not an Assassin anyway.
could be funny if she turned sniper lol
she's be an awful shot.
Wouldnt be that terrible, tbh
imagine using firefly blinder on her
She seems like more of a 'get her hands dirty' type anyway
That joke in Futurama about the one-eyed pilot seems fitting here.
Bruh
easiest prime manhunt
I do like to see Russian Divison if we do go global
Сука
- SHD is an American covert operation.
- Why Russia?
@gaunt ice shd is an american agency, there is no russian division
Just drop a blinder firefly and she will be like a fish on the ground
Bodark but this is the wrong timeline
Well I think that can be cool
maybe a counterpart
Well there can be branches
There may be a cell of SHD agents in russia, but no SHD counterpart in russia.
Give me a reason for "why Russia" that paints you in a better light than "murica good russia bad"
Well the game never explicitly tells you if SHD goes global
No I’m being serious,that can be kinda cool
Its an american organization. And Russia & America have never been on the best of terms.
the setting might be global, its just the story expanding outside the NY-DC
They're explicitly an American agency
It was a Presidential Directive.
Yeah but you can’t tell me that there’s isn’t a SHD cell in Russia
Like...any Cold War spies ever?
could be
oh here we go
but we never know
Someone find that shd network activation scene that shows the globe
Maybe there is a Russian equivalent but idk
It’s a theory,yes
If they ever do go to Russia, it wouldnt be the Division, it'd be a spinoff. Which i dont think they can manage, currently.
no, there's one that shows a globe. That one just shows the U.S.
Yeah the one in NOA
i didnt see any globe lol
But it’s just the satellites rotating around the globe right?
Best cutscene in the game so far
there are like thousands of satellites
Oh I've gone invisible again. I'm going to just start babbling.
I would say 30 per state?
its not per state
its a federal properties
some are private owned but need government permission from country of base operation
Yeah 1000 satellites just to cover dc,how great resource management the gov has
This is SHD ones
Not all satellites
satellites work as relay points
Yeah?
other country use it as well with permission
hard to tell
if youre in africa let say
you need a satellite, and asked for permission, its not just for one satellite, the data will bounce and get relayed from one point to other like a web
Let’s be honest,they have backdoor to every system,so it wouldn’t matter much if they only have 1000
They can just”hippity hoppoty your satellite is my property”
Remember that one side mission when you break into the Odea Office?
And the dude ask you to hack the doors
Beep boop door opened
hard to tell, not all satellites built the same
Doesn’t matter,America tech has peaked,only to be challenged by Russian’s nukes or China’s super “snap your personal info”network
Where’s the lmb dude?he should be here by now
obviously fighting the LMB
No the I Hate Everything guy but it’s lmb
i think theyre the same person
All I want is Faye Lau's eyepatch as an apparel item or a backpack trophy.
That^
yas
done nothing worse then us, her crime is siding with a faction that kills civis, we on the other hand killed thousands of "bad guys" in our submit or die crusade
^
any idea which of the new tu12 nameds are dz exclusive?
Well summit isn’t canon so you can cut a few thousand out of the body count
And besides,they ARE bad guys,so yes
Not yet
They are portrayed as bad guys, but some of them actually had good ideas, just executed poorly due to corrupt/crazy leaders (see Cleaners, Outcasts)
Imo True Sons and LMB had good ideas as well, but again, executed terribly due to power hungry/corrupt leaders
true sons never had a good idea to begin with - they literally just want to have power over people and they use it to hurt people when things dont go their way
out of the two lmb had a good idea but it was executed terribly
I can agree with that. Neighborhoods the LMB patrolled were safe, afaik
outcasts were good when they overthrew the corrupt that was happening on Roosevelt island but soon as they said that everyone was in part of their suffering is when i completely lost sympathy
All fun and all until they ask you if you want to join them and you say no
Apart from the executions, yeah
Doesn’t justifies burning people alive
Let’s be honest,Firewall is a thing,so we’re not that good either
if you're using it against people who are trying to kill you then i dont really see a problem
Or using AI-Guided missile against infantry
Isn’t it a war crime?
in the game world were there was a manmade pandemic and someone with a flamethrower trying to toast me alive
all because of me just breathing
im going with a no
Well Cleaners don’t attack places that had no infection
The wony ones are manipulated
Wait,who shipped Cleaners to DC?
I’m looking at a cleaner cp
Cleaners are the best “bad guys” imo
They are normal dudes with a good idea (fire burns virus) but we’re corrupted almost solely because of ferro
Ferro was normal too until his wife and daughter(?) died
And that was what flipped the switch on them
If that never happened, it’s very likely the cleaners would’ve made good allies IMO
Well not everyone with a dead relatives turns evil
he wasnt evil, he is a radical purist
What inji said
he accepted his wife died, but cant let the virus spread, though he took the most radical approach, burning even innocent that has been with someone infected
Ferro wasn’t evil, he just let his beliefs get radicalized due to what was happening during green poison
He just let it get to his head
^
Tbh I’d join the cleaners just to use a flamethrower
Ya know, cause it’s actually effective
its really effective
unlike the divisions flamethrower
Div flamethrower is pretty worthless
this is why waiting for rigger gearset, flame turret build
To be fair
how so?
Very short range and poor damage
status effect make them stronger
my only problem how short is flame turret duration
hahaha even their ar has built in flamethrower
or was it true sons with riot foam
Still waiting for us to get riot foam seekers
Major Williams doesn’t deserve to be the only one to have them
maybe make it a PvE only skill
or make it do something else thats not riot foam in PvP but still riot foam for pve
cleaners got this fire thing that is essesially riot foam with burn
Riot Foam: Burn could be fun.
But it will break pvp
You just balance the stats when used on other players, simple.
And it’s not all that useful in pve
Like,how often do you run into a hunter or a rouge?
The skill doesn't exist for players to use at this point, I don't see why it wouldn't.
Foam has more use than just against Hunters and Rogues.
Like crowd control?
Certain status builds can make use of it by using it to spread the Foam effect to a bunch of enemies at once.
Keeping enemies in the same spot is sure valuable
I've seen it in action, it's nuts.
which Gearset is that?
Theres 2 season 1 gearsets. System Corruption and Strikers
I genuinely forgot Strikers wasn't in base-game since it was in Div1.
system corruption
Dunno why you are asking in here, but System Corruption replaces your armor kit with a infinite use ability that gives you bonus armor, and gives you a damage increase based on the amount of bonus armor you have.
thanks,i ealier mistaken this with general
@glacial wind how was Keener right the whole time?
Division is a lie!
wut?
Also he asked us if we trust Faye Lau
keener has a habit of manipulating people for the fun of it and to fit his own agenda
he would have said the said thing even if she didnt betray us
Whell he was right about Faye Lau
and that is the only truth you have seen so far
well he probably hacked bt comms to know that
because it turns out to be real
but the rest is just lies
Also division left him to die
more like jtf
technically it was jtf who left him to die
I don't think you know a lot about Div1's lore lol
but it was the jtf who was responsible for what happened in the dz and abandoning them
So if division leave you to die will you try to end division?
JTF left him to die in the DZ, not Division.
But division didnt help him
dude - pls google the lore
they have a fucking pandemic around us
it's right there on google
Or just play Div1, it's a good story.
how are they suppose to help out everyone?
Idk if you noticed but am just joking cause am borred 😆
well that was a bad troll
This channel is for lore discussion, not trolling. Please try that in another Server.
one of those moments where i wish this server would let me use emotes that are not apart of this server
if there is one, it would be dealing with the hunters and the people who backed bardon's operations in dc/ny
illuminati?
pretty much, it deals with the corruption of the government before and after the green poison
ellis and etc.
i want to see more missions,not just same locations different objectives
this is all assuming we don't have a twist waiting for us with faye delaying the blacktusk/gov corruption arc we still have yet to do
i dont think the game will live long enough for us to get to that part
like ellis,sokolova,bt true boss...
well im pretty sure we need to wait til div 3 to happen b4 we do anything significant post lau
Yeah forced conscription, thats basically slavery
People of NY prob would have better fate being wiped out by virus than being enslaved by those lmb bastards
Biden is real life Ellis
Trump is def, actually i think he's a true sons kinda guy
Well lets not bring rl politics here, even i dont go that far.
Let's avoid RL politics in this server ey, no need to depress people.
ok boss
Im depressed cause we need to kill faye lau at next season ;w;
nah im cool
its just a virtual character lol
but then again,you can always head back to div1 if you miss her
This will be more satisfying than I expected
I mean.. were killing Faye Lau? last I checked we didn't kill Bardon Schaeffer.
I dont think we're killing Faye Lau
I do wish and hope we get some kind of cutscene tho
Maybe a cell with Bardon and Lau in it.
I dunno, we'll see.
When I left Shaeffer, he was pushing up the daisies....I hate it when they just pretend
If it makes you feel better, I used my Surv crossbow.
so he wasn't so much "unconscious" as "extra crispy"
Lol extra crispy!
Grilled Bardon-chop sounds nice
I turned him into Swiss Cheese with my minigun
I hit him with my ballistics shield
On a negative infiniteto 10,how much would you rate Div2 story?
Mashed Potato?
I would rate if they would let our characters speak
let my character talk shit to the rogues and people I don't like
Let’s pretend most CoD characters has a voice
I mean, a lot of them end up becoming characters later so kinda?
^
no bullet to the head, you can pretty much guarantee he is still alive
just like hornet kek
Hornet died?
after we fought him for a 2nd time...
We know for a fact that Schaeffer is alive because the mission specifically tells us so.
"critical condition" "aww he's fine"
When you run through it 4 times in a row, you tend to remember the dialogue.
-Watches someone being thrashed by 100 bullets
Says:Tis but a scratch
kelso basically said 'ah it'll heal'
"just a flesh wound"
Yeah I’m sure it will,lady.Unlike someone with a bruised leg that stayed on a boat while we hunt down a bioterrorist
Concussion and possible internal bleeding, not bruised leg.
Yeqh,scratches
I figure we'll be killing Faye unless there's some dramatic change
SHD policy is pretty specific that going rogue is a death sentence, no questions asked
The lore is clear on this.
The lore is clear that it is Treason against the United States.
what shd? the civi director? the literal handful of agents still active? the traitor president? 🙂
Not just treason, but extra special no trial execution treason.
Hey, we don't need your logical curiosity about the lack of lore, shoo

How dare you question the massive questions that have been left unanswered.
... Heh. Massive.
Well we were never explicitly told about that
Sure,we kill a handful of them by now,but mostly because they resist
We were gonna arrest Arron if he didn’t die straight away there
The lore states that rogue agents are either killed or captured depending on the severity of their crimes while rogue.
Kill em’ and feed them to the burn pit!
That guy is funny though
That is one of my favourite lines in the game. My favourite is when Schaffer says “now if you’ll excuse me. I’m gonna go shoot myself in the fucking head”
Lol!
A second before he was screaming about having the power of god and the next second he’s begging for his life