division-universe

[wicked gorge]

Vic is his own type of human. He was originally seen as the jerk of dc and recently it’s “ oh Nat made him do that stuff”

[waxen sonnet]

He's just a bit of a Conspiracy nut nowadays.

Which annoyingly has the down side that some of his semi-crazy ramblings could be right half the time with what happened with Hunters being agents etc

[sudden mortar]

Well, Theo also was a conspiracy guy but he was right about the SHD corruption, not sure his theories about his dad's death.

[waxen sonnet]

I honestly reckon we're about to find that last bit out this season, Im thinking his Dad found something out while working as a Senator he shouldn't have (Possibly related to Nat, or McManus)

[wicked gorge]

@sudden mortar ANNA what happens if you divide by zero? Will it destroy your servers?

[sudden mortar]

They would get delta before I could divide the number.

[wicked gorge]

But what if you succeed

[glad spruce]

I can do it tomorrow an hour after weekly reset 😛

[waxen sonnet]

Man's gonna crush the bench press and then the Nemesis

[storm axle]

Remember

Its always Wina Tuska

[sudden mortar]

Who?

[storm axle]

Wina Tuska

[sudden mortar]

Who the hell is Wina Tuska?

[tepid ibex]

wish we had more time to roam the city without having to constantly worry abt sepsis tho

[storm axle]

Donald Tusk is polish prime minister

There are memes that everything bad is caused by him

So its always wina tuska

[waxen sonnet]

Gonna be honest mate we're all totally bloody lost about this because I dont think we're all Polish anyway....

[waxen sonnet]

Wasn't Survival's map Just the same as the standard New York map anyway though?

[wicked gorge]

Yeah but without the dz expansion or ws pier

[tepid ibex]

well....yes. BUT it's blizzard-y and cooler 🙃

[storm axle]

Well

[tepid ibex]

on rare occassion when there's a blizzard in open world it's great

[storm axle]

Mr Tusk is half german

[tepid ibex]

same with sandstorms in div 2

[wicked gorge]

The sandstorms are annoying

[sudden mortar]

And Hunters that has a better AI than the div2 hunters.

[storm axle]

Bosses are annoying

[tepid ibex]

ong, fighting div 1 hunters in survival gets the pits sweaty

[wicked gorge]

With crash axes Mr. Squadward, with crash axes

[sudden mortar]

And they're smarter, look this video where the hunter hides behind cover bcs he knows the player is gonna check the loot
https://youtu.be/BCGefh5fugQ?si=7kjdI99Q0GT4f5Xq

[wicked gorge]

They ganged up on that poor innocent agent

[waxen sonnet]

In Survival, was what you extracted something like the BSAV?

It was something like that wasnt it?

[wicked gorge]

Yeah

I think it’s the first iteration of the bsavs

[near totem]

Well an hour is a long time for some people, you can try to explore as much as you can

[tepid ibex]

bro got executed in 2 different ways 💀

one slits his throat and the other puts a hatchet in his ass lmao

[waxen sonnet]

Kinda wonder why of all Melee weapons Hunters decided on Crash Axes.

[sudden mortar]

Tactical axes

[near totem]

Well handy and terryfing

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah dont get me wrong I get that part, but its like, who has a bulk order of Crash axes? 😂

[near totem]

Maybe mcmannus liked to collect axes and just gave them his private collection

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, as a design choice its perfect, Probably other than the mask the most Iconic element of a hunter

[sudden mortar]

And they must be using claws out with like 50000% melee damage

[near totem]

They are using a HB melee hybrid build

[wicked gorge]

Sharp and an excellent tool for survival/prying stuff open

[near totem]

Hunters propably use the bloody knuckles, claws out and all other gear HB

[sudden mortar]

Yeah, somebody woke up and thought: what if we mix a knife with a hammer, there are the tomahawks.

[wicked gorge]

Well they were mainly used for pilots as A a backup weapon and B as a escape tool if pilots ever crash landed and couldn’t open the hatch, they’re surprisingly good at piercing sheet metal

[storm axle]

Why kelso went rogue btw

She was really important SHD member

I know that faye went rogue after her sister death

[sudden mortar]

Basically She wanted to know why exactly Faye went rogue, after discovering about the BT and McManus alliance she followed the leads given by ANNA and ended up joining the Keener's team before us.

[storm axle]

Okkk

But one thing still makes no sens for me

Division agent were elite

Trained to be as good as possible

Agent were equipped with technology that we dont even have

But most of them were killed by normal enemies

[white temple]

How many Priority Objectives do I need to complete to unlock all Passive Modifiers???

[waxen sonnet]

Hi mate this is the wrong channel, you'll need #td2-general-chat

This channel is for The Division's storyline

[waxen sonnet]

Ok so -You've these agents, super highly trained, with excellent gear and Equipment in small units.

Here are some of the issues:

Overwhelming Ratio of Hostiles to Deployed Agents
Unfamiliar Terrain, Not all Agents were from NYC/DC when activated, so local hostiles have better local knowledge of the area
JTF Support was difficult to obtain in bulk, so agents often were left cut off from back up.
Green Poison was still capable of infecting agents
A Break down in Healthcare meant agent's with serious or Critical Injuries often died from wounds sustained in Combat

Agents are certainly incredibly powerful, but whatever kills us, kills them Just as equally

[storm axle]

Yea

Makes sens

But

Agent were even killed by rikers or cleaners

Cleaners are firefighers and rikers are prissoners

[waxen sonnet]

Yep, but again, You've very few Agents, having to fight near 50X The numbers of enemies, they're going to get tired, they're gonna get injured and worn down, make mistakes etc

[white temple]

Why are there so many Delta error codes in Division 2?

[storm axle]

Wrong channel

[waxen sonnet]

Hey man, sorry but best you ask #unofficial-troubleshooting , they're the Technical guys of the server who might know

[storm axle]

Another thing

[waxen sonnet]

This channel is for questions about the Division's story my friend

[white temple]

Ok,sorry guys

[storm axle]

Jtf is completly for nothing

They didnt even helped us with one thing

[waxen sonnet]

No worries, Mistakes happen, hope you find the help you need!

[near totem]

When does White tusk appear in hunted?

[waxen sonnet]

To be honest you're asking your local traffic cop or Ambulance crew to suddenly handle being made into a task force to deal with a multi-million population city breaking down after a Devastating military level Biological weapon attack and new hostile factions around every corner

[sudden mortar]

I mean, what could they do? You got only few people in the JTF, a lot of them died in combat, others defected to the true sons and LMB, others died by the green poison, and the rest are trying to protect the civilians left in NY.

[storm axle]

They could do anything

Some of JTF members were soldiers

So they could sent them to help agents

[sudden mortar]

Can you just say in a message instead of sending

This

Way

[storm axle]

No

Because

I like to send it this way

[waxen sonnet]

Ah tbh I Do that too ANNA
Czlo that doesnt mean to spam the channel by doing it that way though

[storm axle]

Ok you are right guys but lets talk about kelso again

It makes sense that one of the most loyal and one of the most important SHD agnet that helped us with most of DC and NY missions went rouge after her enemy and traitor of SHD told her
"Work with me pls"

[near totem]

Well it wasnt just Work with me please, Keener told her about the hunter problem and its solution so she decided to side with him

And of course nobody wants to tell us something until we meet the man himself, Aaron Keener

[storm axle]

So why she didnt tried to recruit us

I wolud love to see game or even missions

Where we are bad guys

[near totem]

We got hit with the standard "you dont understand now, i will tell you later"

[waxen sonnet]

Eh, you're not seeing it quite the same way its intended pal.

So Kelso's gone Rogue to work with Keener to finish what Faye Lau had started before we killed her, Kelso was always a firm believer that Faye went Rogue for some reason that must've been incredibly important. We as the player character are only just starting to learn what this plan was, and why Faye had to work with Keener and why we (and Kelso) are left to finish what she started.

[sudden mortar]

Already expected in a game where the player is silent but yeah

[waxen sonnet]

I want them to totally blindside us with one iconic line voiced for the character at the end of the DLC

[storm axle]

What dlc

[sudden mortar]

That gives me Saints row 2 flashback lol

[waxen sonnet]

Division 2 has a DLC Planned for some time in 2025.

[storm axle]

Oh

[near totem]

And talking about being silent, i have a little theory, that our div 2 agent is the same one we play as in div1, and i base that on Faye lau when she said "i know you are there ,not staying but listenning" or something like that. Ofc you can say they are both silent and it doesnt mean anything but i dont think she would say that to an agent that she knows only for a month or something.

[storm axle]

It will happen on bronx

Btw

[near totem]

There is a high chance it will

[storm axle]

There is nothing in bronx

Bronx is just bronx

[sudden mortar]

Because Bronx doesn't exist

[storm axle]

Bronx is just like rhode island

[waxen sonnet]

Agent's from Division 1 can be the Division 2's agent character in your own plot sense, because the Division 1's agent was left after the events of the main questline still alive and well

[storm axle]

It exist

[storm axle]

Maybw

But it would make more sense that div 1 agent stayed in NYC not some random village

Btw

Wtf is Maine

[near totem]

I know that there is some area of freedom there that the lore gives us but i think can be a solid option

[storm axle]

Who lives in Maine

[waxen sonnet]

Division agent's are not forcibly tied to one place in cannon, they can simply move about at will and undertake missions they deem apart of the core roles of the Division

[storm axle]

But still

We know that situation in middle Manhattan was still bad even after missions

So it would make sense for agent to stay there

[near totem]

Well the agents cant be bound forever in one place, if the situation cant change no matter what we do we have to move on

[waxen sonnet]

Depends, after Manhattan a lot of work becomes clean up efforts, pockets of hostiles now leaderless, there headquarters in ruins and JTF And a BOO Back up to strength with other second wave agents in NYC, It seems to me a valid time to say they can move on.

[storm axle]

Maybe

Only ubisoft knows

But guys

Can you imagine div game

But you play as rogue agent

That would be epic

We could see how they work

[glad spruce]

Remind me to never read the subreddit over their opinions on the story

[waxen sonnet]

I Mean, I dont overly like the way the story's been written, but subreddit gets a little too OTT with there complaining

[glad spruce]

Maybe. But they act like Division 1 is god's greatest gift to earth when the only reason they like it that much is because of the winter setting.

Winter, winter, winter, effin winter.

Soured me on the game, ngl

[waxen sonnet]

Hang on given time zones aren't you up at like midnight anyway?
Sleep it off my friend before you get cranky

[glad spruce]

Yeah, it's 3 am. Gotta hit the bed

[waxen sonnet]

Likewise, I'll be back for the Comms discussion tomorrow, Night all

[near totem]

Just finished hunted, and oh my god that fight was epic

||And that abrams was one of the coolest thing in the book||

[gaunt ice]

kinda proves that ||a bunch of ragtag PMCs aren’t a match for a crippled US army lmao||

[torn shoal]

When was reddit a good place ever ? X)

[gaunt ice]

hawko is just mad people dont like div2 seasonal story stuff

if div1 was set in the summers it’d still be better smh

[glad spruce]

Mmmm... I'm not convinced

[gaunt ice]

side rant people like snowy atmosphere that much but hate winter like wtf fake fans

[sudden mortar]

Btw, that ||hunter vs agents fight|| kinda reminds me of Bangalore and Jackson struggling to kill one pilot in one of the apex animations.

[glad spruce]

New week, new Descent comm. Log 74 titled Rikers

||In this comm, Bridgette Douglas calls in a status report to Natalya Sokolova where she reports things are pretty quiet in Brooklyn compared to Manhattan. While the Rikers managed to cross the Brooklyn Bridge, Cleaners are isolated to Lower Manhattan.||

||She also reports that Midtown Manhattan under Faye Lau's leadeship were effective in pushing out the Rikers south and keeping the Cleaners in check. And even with Vivian Conley's leadership of the Cleaners, they don't have the means to expand their operations to Brooklyn, especially with Conley planning an attack with Keener after the events at Coney Island||

||Bridgette suggests recruiting locals to support the recon mission, namely Faye Lau and Alicia Coswald given their history, emphasizing there's an opportunity to exploit||

[waxen sonnet]

Told ya 😁

[waxen sonnet]

Nah it's just annoying people are like that still after all these years, hawksters right.

[gaunt ice]

both can be true

i do know how it feels like liking something and seeing no one likes it too

[sick lantern]

near the end

[sick lantern]

they did though

[sick lantern]

when the
franchise that has only two games still has fans of one of the two 🤯

[near totem]

LMB veterans and all the other things but still they die like normal BT grunts

[near totem]

We have to see the Molossi in action sometime in the game, they feel like our own black tusk

[waxen sonnet]

Shut 🔫

[waxen sonnet]

Man it'd solve half our issues with them literally bringing a tank, but honestly in game lots of people would miss the reference because they don't read the books

[glad spruce]

Shades of Red comm 2 titled ANNA.

||Theo Parnell and Mathias "Trig" Schneider talk a bit about shapes and the differences between a fractal and a parabola. Theo changes the subject by mentioning that Conley told him about ANNA. Trig shares what he knows about her, namely how she's a fully autonomous AI that's constantly growing and learning. And given that Claire Ortiz built ANNA, she's a little wicked and doesn't care for the consequences or the powers that be, which would make her dangerous if she decides you're expendable||

||Theo likens ANNA to a god that must be respected. Trig remarks that if he respects ANNA, she'll do anything to protect him||

[glad spruce]

I think it's fair to say that Descent comms this season is setting up what is to come for the Brooklyn DLC

[waxen sonnet]

I think they have been for some time to be honest

[glad spruce]

True

Though I'd argue last season's Descent comms mostly involved with Heartland's story beats that were supposed to play in the actual game prior to its cancellation

[ornate gull]

The only thing about Heartland i don't understand

Why it PvPvE open world?

Why Agent can attack other Agent during night

[wicked gorge]

Because nighttime is scary

[ornate gull]

Unless Green Poison in Silver Creek during night interfere with SHD server beacon that cause temporary transmission jammed like in NYC/D.C DZ

Or Survival Snowstorm

[waxen sonnet]

Perhaps you're were going to be infected slowly over time byt this new Green Poison variant during the day, and retreat for treatment and rest overnight?

Honestly, sadly we'll never know

[torn shoal]

spooky scary skeletons
send shivers down your spine

[wicked gorge]

Can anyone tell me what the first hint is about? Im too tired and annoyed to keep trying

[potent smelt]

You can search via the discord message lookup for info

This is what I found

[wicked gorge]

I meant the hint for this week

[late void]

||Any bounty in foggy bottom. If you don't have any, do a public execution or hostage rescue activity in the same area to get one.||

[wicked gorge]

Thank you, I’ve done every activity and mission, ig I missed the executions

[glad spruce]

Every scout in the Manhunt menu comes with a small briefing text from Theo telling you the area you're supposed to complete the Scout in

[frosty spoke]

How exactly does expiring Rogue mark in DZ work in lore? It gets deleted from SHD brick eventually because of limited data storage room or something?

[waxen sonnet]

Dark zones cause issues with the SHD Networks causing it to revert to a localised short range version of the network (You'll hear ISAC mention having to reboot the system upon entering a DZ).

The Localised DZ Networks probably some form of emergency back up, designed only for short term use to keep an agent's skills and abilities available to them, but any further long term things like Rogue status probably cannot be stored on the system for long before being removed to free up data again.

That second paragraph however is all theory, though the first is factual to game lore.

[gaunt ice]

im assuming that the dark zone figuratively went dark on the network n all so they have no way to store data there, or sync it with the rest of the network

so what happens in the dark zone stays in the dark zone

think of how an ECHO is created from a combination of cctv,audio recordings,reports,stuff like that

[waxen sonnet]

[gaunt ice]

usually anyway

you go rogue and kill 15 agents while narrowly escaping a manhunt

you go back out and the BoO welcomes you with open arms

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, and that's weird right because it's implied our character can get away with it due to the localised SHD Networks in the Dark zones not reporting back to the SHD.

And yet we have Agents in Keeners cell who went marked by the SHD outside the DZ as Rogue by shooting down a Extraction helicopter and it's crew and an onboard agent

[gaunt ice]

its a mix of things imo:
-not all agents went rogue in the dz
-maybe they went rogue before the dz went dark so the info is relayed back to the network
-wony lore sucks but its states that if first waves leave the dz they become rogue so

[sour perch]

About how many agents are still actually alive?

[torn shoal]

not a lot

but thats not the issue bt is facing, its the guerilla warfare they do

they cant be found by conventionnal methods, they go dark most of the time, they act alone

they are a threat hovering over you at anytime

[gaunt ice]

we dont even know how many agents do the Division originally had

the first and second wave were only in NYC

but im assuming that we already burned through a lot of them

[waxen sonnet]

I know in the extended Literature they say in passing roughly contexed that having 4 or more Agents deployed on one task or mission (E.G The events of Thomas's Books, Raids, Incursion's ETC) Was a Massive deal because it was a "large" number of SHD Agents to be tasked on the one mission.

It was a sign of just how highly a threat it'd be that the Division would allocate numerous agents at once from the active pool of agents they had left

[ornate gull]

Do Snowstorm completely blocking transmission?

Assuming Agent that assigned to extract anti viral meet each other and decide to kill each other

ISAC don't mark attacker as Rogue

[waxen sonnet]

Oh hey Kanzaki, Are you meaning in Survival's mode?

[ornate gull]

Yeah

I mean Survival mode in fact canon

[unreal elk]

Why hasnt it made a return in 2?????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[ornate gull]

Since it not winter

Also what objective you think they gonna put fir Survival 2?

Considering DC not have many skyscrapers like NYC with heli crash hazard

It not NYC without 1 heli crash

[waxen sonnet]

Sorry, I was away

I assume the snowstorm itself damage Infrastructure that helped with Radio broadcasting, but it's also possible as It's the survival mode, that initial intro Helicopter crash that critically injures the Agent likely damaged his Brick from the sheer impact alone, so perhaps its not the snowstorm after all but equipment damage

[ornate gull]

From what i see in cutscene

Our agent just being tumble from one spot to below

Since agent actively jump off the heli

Not being throw out

It just not safe landing

I doubt it will damaged SHD Smart Watch to point relay communications are not functional

[waxen sonnet]

Its hard to say, in the E3 trailer he was very much thrown out, its just the distance from helicopter to floor thats hard to determine https://youtu.be/AYtIBv3xhKg?t=19

[ornate gull]

Since we managed receiving JTF extract chopper pilot radio and Lau

[waxen sonnet]

I dont know about this part see, because we know when Kelso's Smart watch was damaged at Potomac event center it actually informed us she was faslely dead, so damaged watches and Bricks can do some weird things

[surreal hearth]

I’m gonna be honest with you guys but having this new AI integration with ANNA is a bit of a suspect but she’s useful as she’s now in charge of automated objectives meaning we don’t need Cindy or manny to brief us any updates just ask ANNA and she’ll prioritize objective for you

She can even allocate for additional loot based on the priority objective and value

[torn shoal]

well anna seem superior to isac in everyway so far

but can she be trusted ?

keener being her main user doesnt sell confidence

[tepid ibex]

Everything will be perfectly fine

[ashen jungle]

@undone nova This channel is just for discussing lore related to the Division franchise, you're looking for #td2-friend-referral

[old totem]

Why did Aaron keener betray division?

I only played the second division and I haven't had the chance to play the first division

[sour perch]

He was abandoned in the dark zone with civilians, he called for reinforcements but was denied and a Riker threw a molotov inside the safe house, it killed the civilians except for Keener.

[old totem]

To be honest if I got abandoned I wouldn't want my revenge😔

[ashen jungle]

That does shorten down the story quite a lot, there's a lot of personality issues and history when it comes to Keener.
tl;dr there was no single event.

[old totem]

If you were friends with him do you think you would kill you😔

[frail pond]

Nah, he at least would've swapped the patches. Like, imagine walking around the White House as a free man, still wearing the insignia of the enemy

[ashen jungle]

Do I think I would kill me?

[old totem]

no I meant if you were friends with keener

[ashen jungle]

I'm not friends with people who try and commit mass murder.

e.g. WONY DLC.

[old totem]

if only he killed the people who deserved it

[ashen jungle]

.....you'd be friends with Keener.

In the future, only @ me if there is a spam issue.

[sleek plover]

The only people deserved to be killed are likes of cleaners, LMB, True Sons and Black Tusks...and Keener

[torn shoal]

I suggestion you play the first game or check the wiki about him, the story is a lot more complex than just saying keener bad

[gaunt ice]

it is that simple

Keener bad

[sick lantern]

after the JTF pulled out of the DZ, he saw that the authority was weak and society was collapsing (“the JTF are trying to save a Manhattan that doesn’t exist anymore”) and therefore decided to start making power plays to further his own position

he’s an egotist who “always sees himself as the smartest person in the room” and always lets other people do his dirty work, even before he was recruited into the SHD

[sick lantern]

he killed 2 out of 4 members of his original cell, so i would say yes definitely

regardless of allegiance, human lives don’t matter that much to him

[sick lantern]

📠

[glad spruce]

Yes

[waxen sonnet]

Exactly!

Regardless of the Nuance's of Keeners character and current actions, the lead up to here and now is filled with examples of Keener being particularly vicious and malicious

Eliminating the first wave, Kidnapped Tchernenko to work on Eclipse, Equipped Eclipse to Rogue cells,

Manipulates conflicts

[gaunt ice]

i find it hard to justify killing countless agents and civilians alike while pulling the strings behind multiple factions in NYC to somehow further the purpose of exposing the deep conspiracy

sure he saved people, to live out his fantasy of being a "hero"

and so what?did the people he kill not matter?

[waxen sonnet]

☝️☝️☝️

[gaunt ice]

its a morally ambiguous thing to align with him agaisnt a common enemy but that in no way renders him as the good guy

there is no deeper "nuance" there is only a master manipulator and his loyal followers

[waxen sonnet]

I don't even trust his current actions against the BTSU and Hunters aren't just for his own personal design's, once they're out the way I still wouldn't trust him not to stab us in the back

[gaunt ice]

well he's an enemy to both the Division and Black Tusk

and black tusk has much greater reach compared to the fragmented Division so naturally he's just removing a thorn in his eye

and assuming that Keener knew about the 3 systems connecting to one another, he also knew that its a matter of time until the black tusk can use it against us which forces us to use the other system he has being ANNA

in other words he already set it up this way
i think the lead up to it is garbo but it does seem to go that way

i still think it'd have been better if its just Theo not being dead

he's a far more redeemable person

[waxen sonnet]

Or Lau

[gaunt ice]

Lau's in a bodybag so i disagree

[waxen sonnet]

No what I meant is if they went for the whole "back from the dead" shock, I think it'd been better for it to have Been Lau, given she's how do they say it in the memes nowadays

"Chaotic Good"

[gaunt ice]

ah

[sleek plover]

So lets just turn off ac in his cell.

And play justin beiber songs and only serve him korean spicy noodles

[gaunt ice]

mf wears a full jacket in mid summer

i dont think that'll do anything to him

[waxen sonnet]

His cell doesnt have any, its literally the panic room repurposed to function as a cell

[digital crow]

@fast wharf here

[fast wharf]

Alright

[digital crow]

anyway, lets continue

[ashen jungle]

I always thought that Keener's cell was just a room they put up bars in, it looks more like a study nook.

[fast wharf]

It'd make sense for Dragov to return with all that heavy armor

[digital crow]

Eh, what would be his plot relevance?

[fast wharf]

Bomb go boom boom

[ashen jungle]

Who cares. Hornet came back to life.

[crude flax]

it was kinda funny how he died like. instantly.

[digital crow]

the important question here is not whether it makes sense for him to be alive, but whether he has any plot relevance

[digital crow]

wait what

[fast wharf]

I suppose he does

[ashen jungle]

Hornet was a boss in div1, we killed him.

[fast wharf]

He got keener's weapons correct

[digital crow]

was it from tD1 to Td2

[ashen jungle]

then he just kinda showed up again in div2.

[digital crow]

oh yea, the td1 death

and died in div2

[fast wharf]

When i wanna see him

[ashen jungle]

He's a Manhunt Mission on Roosevelt Island.

EMP sticky IIRC.

[digital crow]

Hornet?

[fast wharf]

Perfect

[ashen jungle]

@digital crow Yep.

[digital crow]

But is it an issue on Massive's writing

I still dont really know if Keener needed to come back to life for the plot

[ashen jungle]

As someone who used to be in this business, or well, adjascent to it, it's very likely not the same author for both chapters of that character's story.

[digital crow]

I swear Keener now and Keener in div1 felt different

[crude flax]

ran out of ideas

[ashen jungle]

see also: whenever they get a ghost writer after the OG author dies.

[digital crow]

and even between WONY and Y6S1-2

[fast wharf]

Keener in div 1 was kind of cruel and war criminal

[ashen jungle]

Keener at the very end of div1 seemed to be floating the idea that he was going off to sell the viruses and whatnot.
Keener in div2 became thanos-lite.

[digital crow]

WONY?

[ashen jungle]

yeah, and post WONY he's now, I'm not sure, I think they're going for "anti hero"?

[digital crow]

from "ima kill the entire of NY for the lulz" to "nah I need to wipe out the tusk and dem hunters"

except not for the lulz, but idk i forgot

[gaunt ice]

im pretty sure that the bunk bed is almost as high as the bars,he can literally climb out of it

[crude flax]

why were the hunters killing you in division 1

[digital crow]

Nobody knows,

and I think thats why they were terrifying in Div1

[gaunt ice]

me when the hunters hunt

[ashen jungle]

Something to do, TV doesn't work anymore.

"netflix is finally off, let's go stab some orange watches"

[gaunt ice]

tbf if they work the Cal they probably have tvs

but its just Friends(fate worse than death)

[ashen jungle]

I guess no one told them life was gonna be this way.

[digital crow]

So are we Rogue now?

[gaunt ice]

nope

[fast wharf]

They're mostly likely trying to get your watch in a not so kind way

[gaunt ice]

Cal and his band of ragtag hockey players are "rogue" if anything

[ashen jungle]

The silence is magical, thank you.

[gaunt ice]

ISAC does not recognize his power despite being the most binary system there is

he has no actual power in the government structure as of now

because if he did all our watches would've turned red

[digital crow]

so who is the Division Answering to other than Manny

[gaunt ice]

just to legitimize his operations

[fast wharf]

That's the most legitimate reason for limitations on it

[gaunt ice]

the Division is autonomous,while they do technically answer to the President they're all dead and there isn't one at play rn

[crude flax]

when did we kill the president again

[digital crow]

So what is gonna be Div3's plot?

[fast wharf]

We didn't

[digital crow]

Lau did

[fast wharf]

Faye did

[ashen jungle]

You know how our Watches were equipped with multiple different colour options, depending on the situation, right?

[digital crow]

She dun JFKed Ellis

[gaunt ice]

we didn't, Lau killed Ellis but she was rogue and Ellis was not the president

[fast wharf]

Correct

[gaunt ice]

he was declared as one but he betrayed the people to side with Black Tusk

[digital crow]

Why idk

[ashen jungle]

So, and I'm just spitballing here.
Does that mean our Agents can use it as a disco-rave light?

[digital crow]

I dont read the plot

[digital crow]

Ubi please add it as a feature

[crude flax]

yeah why is the default orange and the rogue one red.

[fast wharf]

I think so

[fast wharf]

When emoting it becomes a RGB light

[ashen jungle]

SHD watches made by Razer confirmed.

[fast wharf]

[ashen jungle]

that explains why Kelso's keeps breaking.

[digital crow]

SHD brick Razer?

[crude flax]

why arent SHD watches BLUE

[digital crow]

Because idk why

[gaunt ice]

well recruiter was blue

[digital crow]

Orange was chosen as the Division's Colour

[ashen jungle]

@crude flax Orange is more distinctive for branding purposes.
If you want the IRL answer.

[fast wharf]

He modified it probably

[fast wharf]

Orange fits the phoenix patch

[gaunt ice]

they also magically break when they hit the expiration on warranty so

[fast wharf]

That's why

[digital crow]

Kelso's Watch breaking for the 1337th time:

[crude flax]

how many watches has kelso gotten

[fast wharf]

She got the curse of pharaoh to get her watch broken again and again

[ashen jungle]

I've never liked the Phoenix as a metaphor for Agents.
our goal as SHD Agents was to "save what remains", but the phoenix's whole deal in mythology is to be reborn from the ashes, renewal. Not recycle.

[digital crow]

but looks cool tho

i aint complaining

[fast wharf]

They died as civilians came back as agents

[crude flax]

is there anything that remains

[fast wharf]

I suppose that's the message

[ashen jungle]

See this is why I don't think too hard about the design stuff in div, too many questions.

[gaunt ice]

well isn't that the current theme
there is nothing left to save so we rise up to rebuild society

[ashen jungle]

We were activated as Agents before the collapse.

theres a whole cutscene that shows it.

[gaunt ice]

it shifted from "save what remains"

[digital crow]

So what was the collapse?

[gaunt ice]

there's nothing left to save kek

[digital crow]

the funky covid?

[gaunt ice]

nothing much just the collapse of USA and over half the world

[fast wharf]

Your name is now my worst fear

Not my cowboy build: (

[ashen jungle]

Technically, Directive 51 being kicked off is what activated our Watches.

[digital crow]

Anyway, what is gonna be Div3 plot?

[gaunt ice]

we dont know

[digital crow]

not even Ubi knows?

[ashen jungle]

We can guess pretty well, depending on the DLC

[crude flax]

is there a lore reason that every enemy takes 500 bullets to the face

[gaunt ice]

the game is only in conception rn

i doubt even Massive knows

[digital crow]

No

[fast wharf]

It's not canon the RPG system

They realistically die with 3 bullets

If you want realism use a full damage build

[digital crow]

Should there be a Spinoff where you play Div canonically?

[ashen jungle]

head canon: Our guns all secretly have the same mechanism as the turrets in portal 2, so they're being kinda just thrown fast, not actually fired.

[frigid gorge]

Hopped back into div2 what’s the deal with some mobs with icons over their heads
Hockey masks
Ouroboros
Transparent guy
Pulse?

The ouroboros guys deal damage to me on hit so it’s been really annoying

[digital crow]

Explain how you throw an Ouroborus at 1530 throws per minute

[fast wharf]

Adrenaline

[ashen jungle]

@frigid gorge Modifiers, you can turn them off/change them via your Inventory.

[fast wharf]

[digital crow]

with how many guns you can throw, might as well throw hands

idk, one punch the razorback or smth

[fast wharf]

Throw cars instead

[fast wharf]

That's technically possible

[frigid gorge]

Thanks! Can I find this information again in game and if so where?

[ashen jungle]

Sure! When you start, the game actually does kinda sorta tell you, but not very well.
tl;dr it's in your inventory, top middle icon.

[fast wharf]

Technically they'll randomly appear

[frigid gorge]

Fair enough

[frigid gorge]

Annoying! But whatever it is what it is

Thanks for the insight guys

[fast wharf]

[digital crow]

:salute:

[crude flax]

is there a lore reason for the stalker 2 collab

[digital crow]

idk

[strange rock]

No at least not yet, same as resident evil collab

Although that one had some development ideas behind it (project nightmare or whatever it was called)

[crude flax]

is there a reason we havent cleared nyc and dc of hostiles yet

[ashen jungle]

cloning machines.

(canonically though, we only do a mission once)

[crude flax]

so why are there hyenas and outcasts and shit still walking around black tusk i get but the others i dont

[gaunt ice]

they're just remnants thats all

they're about as dangerous as a bunch of street thugs

[sudden mortar]

I wonder if at some point they will regroup with Mayhem, since she is the last Hyena HVT of the council.

[sick lantern]

and Zodiac no?

[glad spruce]

Funny you say that, cuz there's a Descent comm where the Ortiz Couple discuss about tweaking Cal's Smart-Watch to make it singular color cuz it previously changed colors depending on the three AI systems he's accessing

[crude flax]

three??

[sick lantern]

ISAC, ANNA and Diamond

[waxen sonnet]

I think given Ubisoft's current Financial issues, the likelyhood is they'll wrap up Division 2 into a self contained story in the Universe, that way if anything goes wrong, we've got it wrapped up instead of relying on the third game that may or may not be released

[crude flax]

what color is diamond, what is diamond

[sick lantern]

the computing system (sans AI) used by the Black Tusk
it’s blue i guess

[crude flax]

oh

damn. i wish i was blue.

is there a lore reason for the conflict game mode

[waxen sonnet]

DIAMOND Is the BTSU's System, it helps them operate communications, Skills etc without any Aritifical element like ISAC And ANNA, if you look at a BTSU Soldier's Shoulder, you'll see a small scale digital screen displaying a diamond, and a similar shoulder item to our agent's Brick

[crude flax]

oh

[old totem]

damn

[sudden mortar]

Yeah, basically your team is always SHD and the enemy team is always Rogue agents, the lore is just a group of SHD agents facing rogue agents in multiple places in Washington DC.

[ornate gull]

Hope

" When there's life there's hope "

[oblique oxide]

ok can somebody explain to me how Pres Elis somehow gets into black tusk hands after the events of bank headquarters?

[late void]

He was working with bt all along, he sneaks away during the celebrations after clearing capitol and joins up with them

There's a side mission just before tidal basin that shows him working with them

[oblique oxide]

.-.

[late void]

He was having second thoughts about it before Faye killed him though

[glad spruce]

Too bad that meant nothing considering he's remembered as a traitor

[torn shoal]

i mean he is

if you feel bad about betraying people, maybe you shouldnt betray people

[glad spruce]

Don't get me wrong. I do think Ellis got what he deserved

[torn shoal]

yeah but i mean, you cant complain about consequences and having a change of heart after doing all the damage and finding out the consequences arent your taste

[hard crow]

who is diamond

[sick lantern]

@hard crow is this some kinda sick joke or did you just not check the later messages before you sent that

[hard crow]

why are you being hostile about it?

[sick lantern]

just wondering

[hard crow]

I haven't been keeping in touch with the server alot, so no I don't know anything about diamond

or why the hell is keener alive

[waxen sonnet]

Here you go @hard crow

And this

[sick lantern]

not in touch is an understatement you didn't scroll down two messages 😭

[waxen sonnet]

The replies will give you TLDR'S to both those questions.

[hard crow]

It was showing me old messages, not these ones

[hard crow]

by artificial element, meaning theres no like voice or something?

[waxen sonnet]

It's not "Intelligent", in that it can't create its own solutions and tactical idea's (Like how ISAC Works out how to bypass Lockdowns, or break into something), It purely carries out sets of instructions it's been programmed to do.

[hard crow]

fair enough

[ornate gull]

Imaging if ISAC can identify weak point on specifics machine or enemy unit and say "weak point detected" and highlighted that point to our PoV

[waxen sonnet]

It. It does? IT DOES DOESN'T IT?

Why of all questions in this channel is this the first one to make me Overthink

[torn shoal]

isnt there a pulse mod that does it ?

[ornate gull]

Weak point

[torn shoal]

yeah, they get highlighted

[ornate gull]

Pulse only scan and highlighted target

By weak point i mean where they very vulnerable

[torn shoal]

maybe im misremembering

but i feel like we have a scan that does scan for weak point like explosive pouch and highlight them

[sick lantern]

in Subway Morgue, or Broadway Emporium I forget which, ISAC does say "Recommend targeting portable chemical reservoir" in regards to the Cleaner boss so that's something

[wicked gorge]

It’s the Achilles mod your thinking of

[waxen sonnet]

Ok so I overthought and rewatched Division 2 boss battles, WONY'S Liberty island Keener battle, as you approach the Razorback, ISAC Tells you as you reach the gates "Weakpoints, Detected"

[torn shoal]

yeah thats the one

i thought i was becoming crazy lol

[ornate gull]

Oh right i forgot about that

Just no highlighted where

[true fox]

Guys, has anyone ever thought about talking about what a cool menu for the legacy of the manhunt in the game would look like?
I mean, when all seasons are 100% in, if one day this is accomplished.

Sometimes I imagine how cool it would be to see

[glad spruce]

Yes, it would be good if we're able to fully replay past Manhunts. But the devs seem content with only allowing us playing the finale missions

[cold bramble]

where did Division 1 channel go ?

[glad spruce]

You need a role. Go to id:customize

[cold bramble]

ty

[true fox]

he knows..

I remember that all sub-targets were found within missions, you know?

If you can't adapt the activities, you could definitively place, as you did with the final missions, the sub-targets as main missions as well.

so that no one gets lost, when changing the type of mission, only follow the legacy menu and hunts with a new menu,

Now I have three ideas for writing and drawing, how wonderful.

[ornate gull]

As much i want to discuss about this but this channel are not appropriate to discuss ingame event/seasonal gameplay
#td2-general-chat
Better get going b4 you being marked as Rogue

[true fox]

This was just a mention of the idea, when I definitely want to talk about it, I will go to this channel.

[ornate gull]

Agent, This is lore channel

Not a gameplay discuss channel

[true fox]

I know that, don't worry

@waxen sonnet

I reviewed a trailer for TD2 DLC 1, and there's a scene of Theo Parnell controlling a drone above him, a large drone, not a drone like in the games,

So, I figured that drone might have the ability internally to generate a hologram that could move.

I seem to be unconvinced that Theo used decoys to cheat his death, since decoys don't move.

[waxen sonnet]

I have been Summoned

Anyway- Issue is we'd see a big drone, Its likely he can do something more advance than the standard SHD Holographic technology given his technical know-how, but we've no real conformation of that at the moment because we've simply not seen him use or admit to anything like that., Theo faked his death instead by manipulating the ISAC System to falsely read his lifesigns in a way that informed our agent he was dead.

Which is more believable and grounded too.

[ashen jungle]

He didn't use a decoy, in his mission it is specifically stated that Rhodes got through his tricks and they confirmed it was his body.

[waxen sonnet]

Oh hai Rivens

[ashen jungle]

How he is still alive is......magic. It's magic.

hey jack

[true fox]

Ok, yes

[waxen sonnet]

Man tricked ISAC, Its really silly given you put like, hundreds of rounds into both him and Keener, but they had to have some way to excuse the mechanic of "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"

It doesnt really work, but its the plot reasoning we have to accept.

[ashen jungle]

Keener died in a cutscene, that one I can deal with if I do some serious stretching.
but Theo died in gameplay, that is Hornet levels of dumb.

I predict that we will get no explanation of how they lived, or at most a throwaway line about "things not being what they seem".

[true fox]

I remember that,

About this correction in ISAC,
And about that, I think Theo understood what he did and managed it in another way with ANNA's help,

Now about the body, it's still a doubt.
But I understand

[storm axle]

Btw

[ashen jungle]

That removes any tension from death though, any action we've taken so far has no meaning. Is the div1 OG commander even dead at this point?

[storm axle]

In div 1 NYPD cars look nothing like in real life but then in WONY they look similar to real NYPD cars

[ashen jungle]

video-game helicopters are required by law to explode within 30 seconds of being shown on screen, but that doesn't mean he died.

[storm axle]

Why

[waxen sonnet]

The name is Louis Chang, He's actually named despite his very brief appearance and a full character model

[ashen jungle]

Licencing.

[true fox]

Certainly,

This season, I hope he explains better not only himself, but also Aaron Keener's body,

How it got there, as seen in the trailer

[sick lantern]

Keener's missile was just a hologram

[storm axle]

Lol

[ashen jungle]

Hard-light hologram? I'm down for it.

[sick lantern]

what kinda Halo 2

[ashen jungle]

That's actually not even a joke, IRL things like that require the company using them to pay money.

[ashen jungle]

I was thinking more Red Dwarf, but sure that works too.

[storm axle]

I kn9w

[ashen jungle]

hence PDNY

[storm axle]

But it makes no sens that they changed it

[true fox]

I hope you have 😅

[waxen sonnet]

They have to maintain the rights to things, often yearly or other contracts to keep using certain things

[storm axle]

I know

But in first game they created fictional car and in second they used real life one

It would make sens if they used real in first and then fictional is second game

[ashen jungle]

Why?

[waxen sonnet]

They probably got a better or new deal in the second game that wasn't available in the first, dont overthink it

[true fox]

He was on that plane... when it was hit by a missile.

[storm axle]

Because div 1 was taking place in NY so they could get license for real cars for first

And then in dlc they could create new

[ashen jungle]

Helicopter. And so was Lau.

@storm axle It's the same thing. You've had it explained what likely happened, unless MSV explicitly tell us, we can assume that was the case.

[waxen sonnet]

And nearly the player character, it's why you and Lau spend most of the Intro uh, dying in the back of a helicopter.

[storm axle]

Ok ok

[true fox]

my god hahaha
Wasn't there one that lasted a long time?

and yes...

he could very well be somewhere else.

[storm axle]

But still

They created entire new Seal of POTUS that we can see in oval and on Air Force but they still used real life seal inside press room

Now its make no sense

[waxen sonnet]

Also Nerd **** but the "Plane" is a modified stylised version of something like a modern V-22 Osprey VTOL Helicopter, that seemingly someone (Potentially the Division) modified with different wings

[storm axle]

BC they used both

But they could use real or fictional

[ashen jungle]

It's div, you have to get used to some weird anachronisms.

[true fox]

I have one more question

[storm axle]

Fun fact

[true fox]

It's not a question, it's another point

Eclipse missile to Manhattan.

Keener could particularly explain this

[storm axle]

In i think viewpoint museum we can find line of Us presidents portraits

Last was Carter

We know that Bush signed 51

So who was potus before waller

[ashen jungle]

Alternate timeline where Nader won?

[storm axle]

Is obama in division lore????

[waxen sonnet]

And Im sure we will, remember technically we've only just got him back into our Custody after believing he's dead, and now we're sent to rescue Theo before we even have a minute to talk to Keener in depth

[storm axle]

Nah

Obama goat

But waller won in 2014

[waxen sonnet]

Any recent US President was made up in the Division 2.

President Waller, Mendez and Eliis

[true fox]

these minutes of conversation NEEDS to happen

Where can I send this feedback?

[storm axle]

But im taking about before

[ashen jungle]

Where is it stated that Bush signed Directive 51?

[storm axle]

Bush is last real us president confirmed in Div lore

[waxen sonnet]

They dont mention before, to not make any political refrences of the real world

[storm axle]

They do

[storm axle]

On directive 51

[waxen sonnet]

Directive 51 is actually real and actually created by Bush, but is so highly redacted MSV easily made it that the SHD Was founded in that document

[storm axle]

Directive 51 is real btw

[ashen jungle]

No I mean, in the lore/ingame, not IRL.
There are other parallels, I'm asking about the fictional version of it.

[storm axle]

And it was signed by bush both jn real life and games

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah no It's bush, thats what they're saying, give me 5 minutes, gonna go get the book.

[ashen jungle]

Making it an actual president in the lore is ....a mistake.

[sick lantern]

go read the Warlord's flavour text then google that name

[storm axle]

Btw

[ashen jungle]

You can just type it out in one message, you don't need paragraph breaks.

[storm axle]

Shouldnt Division be under Homeland Security Department?

[sick lantern]

they are.

[storm axle]

Really?

I read that they were under president only

[storm axle]

Maybe

[sick lantern]

in terms of how they actually operate, yes
but in terms of technicalities and legalities and charts, they technically fall under the DHS

[ashen jungle]

You don't need to reply to every single message I send.

[storm axle]

But last real president confirmed in lore is Carter

[waxen sonnet]

The World of Tom Clancy's the Division, Chapter 1 | Origins Page 35 Paragraph 1-3

"On may 4 2007, President Bush signed the National Security Presidential Directive 51"

(SKIPPING TO PARAGRAPH 2)

"The unclassified portion of the directive was posted on may 9 to the white house website with little fanfare and no press briefing. But NSPD 51 also included a set of highly classified continuity annexes, undisclosed to congress or the general public for what the executive branch deedm "national security reasons". One of those annexes ordered the establishment of the Strategic Homeland Division.

[storm axle]

Thanks

[ashen jungle]

My point remains the same.

[storm axle]

Now

Is Iraq 2003 in div lore

[sick lantern]

why wouldn't it be?

[waxen sonnet]

Yes, believe it or not, and Afghanistan.

[storm axle]

BC this is game and everything can be changed

[sick lantern]

it's not Ace Combat, TD is ostensibly set in "the real world"

[storm axle]

Ace Combat is based on different planet

I think

[sick lantern]

That was the point

[waxen sonnet]

Yes, but up to a point, we're not talking complete timeline changes here

[storm axle]

Cod is set in real world too

[ashen jungle]

ww2 was real, it's true.

[storm axle]

Vietnam was true too

[ashen jungle]

Nah that one was fake.

[storm axle]

Oh

[wicked gorge]

The moon landing was faked but people believed it

[storm axle]

So why in murican hisotry museum is section about vientam war

[ashen jungle]

It's true, Kubrick was such a professional that he filmed it on locaiton.

[waxen sonnet]

Oh dear god after this week can we not go down this route for the love of god.

[storm axle]

Btw

[waxen sonnet]

RIVENS, NAUGHTY, STOP DERAILING THE THREAD YOU'RE GOING TO CONFUSE THE POLISH

[storm axle]

If afghan happended

They are us soldiers still in middle east

[wicked gorge]

One America and two take a guess on why it’s in the museum

[wicked gorge]

Hold on there buddy, I got your tinfoil hat for you

[waxen sonnet]

God I feel I need it this week buddy.

[wicked gorge]

Cant let the aliens know our next move

[waxen sonnet]

(No before you ask Czlowiek there's no aliens )

Im going to have a nap.

[wicked gorge]

Well…..

In space administration, you can find an alien

[waxen sonnet]

No no, dont confuse him, Please.

[storm axle]

Well

Im from mars sooo

[ashen jungle]

Okay to end this little riff here as this is ostensible a lore channel: @storm axle They're making a joke.Yes those things are real, obviously.

[storm axle]

No

[wicked gorge]

Did you really not understand why the Vietnam war is in an American museum

[storm axle]

I was joking

[storm axle]

That was respond to this

[wicked gorge]

I was just making sure

[storm axle]

Im not that stupid

[wicked gorge]

Its okay to be stupid, im stupid and it’s worked 95% of the time

[storm axle]

Im stupid but not that much

[wicked gorge]

As long as you can read an analog clock, then i consider you smart

[torn shoal]

it works all the time 60% of the time

[frail pond]

Huh?

Wonder if we'll able to swim through the East River to get to Brooklyn in the upcoming dlc?

[ashen jungle]

It's a separate map, and there's no swimming mechanic in div2.

[glad spruce]

Likely we're gonna use a van that Keener and his team took to go to DC to get to Brooklyn

And speaking of resurrections, I wouldn't be surprised if Bridgette Douglas is back from the dead as well

[sick lantern]

if it does go back to winter, uh no, you’ll genuinely die i think

[sudden mortar]

This game isn't this kind of open world

[frail pond]

Well, that's a bit lame

[glad spruce]

Besides, there's no way you can avoid drowning with all the gear your agent is equipped with

[storm axle]

Hmmm

We know that division CERA and DCD is our FEMA and CDC

But what they did in divison lore

We can see field hospitals, food supplies and other things like this

But they are destroyed or abandoned

[frail pond]

They are trying to deal with a viral epidemic, duh

[glad spruce]

A weaponized virus at that

[waxen sonnet]

We've struggled historically with Virus epidemics at the best of times, let alone you basically have it super charged as GP so that it's resistant to most medicines and vaccination's you could throw at it, then you put healthcare workers on the front line of that and there's no shock they're killed first.

[hallow topaz]

So how does the agent fit 150 LMG's in a backpack?
And if it was a possible fit, how does the agent run/stand straight/jump over fences with that weight on him/her?🤣

[glad spruce]

Gameplay and lore segregation. In lore, the agents can only fit what they have and need in their backpacks

[ornate gull]

Iirc, only if it snowstorm

Even if there no snowstorm and water is frozen. It not thick enough to move on it

[sick lantern]

good luck swimming 200-1200 metres of fast flowing water, in temperatures as low as -1 degrees celsius

[ornate gull]

Well not swimmimg

I mean walk on frozen water

I do give good look at eastern NYC during Survival, water frozen shut

[sick lantern]

walking on ice, also, very very dangerous.

it breaks, you die

[storm axle]

How many people survived green flu

Do we know?

[torn shoal]

we do not know, but its been very deadly

with a mortality rate of 90+%, and nothing stopping its spreading, we can safely assume at least 50+% of people are dead

not all from the virus obviously

usually when a civ collapse, vulnerable people die real fast

and according to div 2 state of the country, its more or less hell

[jovial geyser]

Why did the cleaners attack the estate

[sick lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWRQD2itZQQ

[jovial geyser]

Thanks

[ornate gull]

I been wonder

Are the civilians in Hudson Refugee Camp are civilians that survive the green poison infection or asymptomatic carrier?

[cold bramble]

I think they're just survivors
There was a "medical staff" team to check them out for research on how the virus works and the effects of its people

[torn shoal]

most of them are just refugee that have no home anymore, most people that got the flu are dead

seeing how many people are around, most of them didnt got the flu clearly

also in div 1, the virus is only on the spreading phase, there is still a lot of sick people that arent dead yet

and the not sick struggle to get food, water, etc

[upper light]

Can anybody of a 30 plus rank help me level up quicker on the division 1 please my ubi tag is brumdog1986

TIA

[late void]

This is the lore discussion channel, you'll have better luck posting in #td1-lfg

[upper light]

@late void thanks dude i haven't really used discord before so i am a tad confused

[storm axle]

Ughhh

How Black Tusk have so many robots

[sick lantern]

Ortiz Robotics and government conspiracehhh

[torn shoal]

they got money + raided pentagon labs

[storm axle]

Jeez

Devs: Hello Ubisoft. Should we make Div 2 factions overpowe....
Ubisoft: YES

[tepid ibex]

Though I love the games, I will always find it odd how they decided to make a series where some enemies/bosses take hundreds if not thousands of bullets to kill.

[storm axle]

Welp

Not always

Level 32, Union District

Last boss

I have 6 bullets in my sniper

One shoot one kill

Right in the head

1.4m damage

She had hull hp and shield

[glad spruce]

Honestly we have so many DPS builds that the notion of bullet sponges shouldn't exist

Unless you define bullet sponges as not being able to kill all enemies in one shkt

[tepid ibex]

Bruh, oh yeah two shots are bullet sponges forsur. Take a Riker heavy from D1 for example, bro is wearing a singular piece of body armor (on his chest) and it takes a whole extended mag from an LVOA to kill him (only half a mag if you get all 30 rounds in his head). But for D2 examples, purple and yellow bar Legendary Black Tusk in and of themselves are sponges.

[glad spruce]

Uh huh

[ashen jungle]

Okay, back to the lore now.

[glad spruce]

What Rivens said

[sweet crypt]

I've kinda wondered if there could be a Division game set in a desert environment. What city would it take place in, and how would the story lead there.

[potent smelt]

Las Vegas would be a bit of a hellhole

Fallout New Vegas type locations

[sweet crypt]

Las Vegas seems to fit most, high profile location, with Nellis AFB and Area 51 to draw possible story threads.

[potent smelt]

The quarry areas would be interesting too

[sweet crypt]

Fighting into and then back out of, an open pit mine.

[sleek plover]

ALIENS

Green poison infected the aliens and mutated them

[wicked gorge]

Not to mention the deathclaws

[ornate gull]

I don't think so, Alien probably carbon creature so they either immume to green poison or even if they were infected. They will die in mater of hour because lacking immume system

[sleek plover]

Yeah but couldnt virus mutate?

[ornate gull]

Under specific circumstances yes

Green poison have a burn out timer

We don't know what cause Green Poison at Silver Creek to be mutated

Probably Mother Nature see Amherst little parasite wasn't enough so she 'modified' Silver Creek Green Poison to safe guard the nature there

[sleek plover]

So within alien flesh inside area 51, green poison mutated

causing zombie apocalypse

[ashen jungle]

Okay enough fan-fics.

[true fox]

Then...

If The Recruited and Hunted are set in 2017, well after TD2 and Natalya Sokolova and Macmanus appeared right at the end of Book 3,
Didn't you imagine that DLC 2 couldn't be the conclusion yet?

[sick lantern]

the events of Recruited are referred to as past tense in TD2.

[glad spruce]

Yeah. We did get references to it back in Season 11 about Saint Louis and one of Kelso's notes in Y5S3 mentioning the attack on Kansas Core

[true fox]

no no, sorry

I was wrong

He is not recruited, he is the second forward

In the end, I think it's better to save everything we have to see how everything will work out and fit together when the time comes,

oh...

One question, the hunter in book 3, did he wear some kind of armored armor?
a suit that protected him beyond bladed weapons.

[glad spruce]

I don't know, maybe?

[true fox]

it would actually make a lot of sense

[waxen sonnet]

Also had back in the Recruiter manhunt references to Maira Kanhai when Birdie is talking about the BTSU Attempts to disable the SHD Network, which obviously refrences back to the third book.

[sick lantern]

armoured armour, as opposed to…?

[glad spruce]

This week's Descent comm, log 75 titled Meret Estate.

||Aaron Keener asks Bridgette Douglas regarding the state of Meret Estate. Bridge tells him its become a refuge for civilians in Long Island and Mackenzie Meret as the denmother of the settlement. Keener opens up his crush towards Mack, saying she'd be a great mother, with Douglas reminding him she's not the one who got away||

||Keener asks Douglas if she's sure, making the latter ask him if she ever lied to him. Keener retorts that she's an impeccable liar, which both rogue agents find in common as friends. Douglas thought that Keener only liked her because of her wealth and access to Mack. Keener admits that he likes Douglas cuz she keeps him honest.||

||Douglas is amused by the notion and laughed. She assures that Keener that Mack is fine and he doesn't need to worry about her because Nat would never let anything happen to her "special project"||

[true fox]

Is her conversation with Nat about Broockyn already over?

will we have now or theme?

[glad spruce]

No, this was before the attack on Meret Estate

Also, Descent comms go in different topics

[true fox]

against low caliber weapons, or equivalent to what they were using during the fight against him.

[ashen jungle]

They're confused because it looks like you typed "armour armour".

Unless one is meant to be french?

[true fox]

I understood that yes,

I asked if the Brooklyn thread was over,
usually a topic is 4 communications

[glad spruce]

Doubt it.

[true fox]

I asked if the hunter in book 3, during the fight against him, if he seemed to have a special suit that has armor against bullets and knives

[true fox]

I will also wait.

I'll get mine, thanks for writing.

[sick lantern]

this is answered in the book.

[torn shoal]

armour doesnt exist in french, its armure

tho the french language is a mess and shouldnt be used for anything tbh

its already enough pain learning it as a kid

[sudden mortar]

Not yet I think, we had like 10(not sure) comms featuring silver creek from heartland, who knows how many comms will talk about the next DLC location.

[true fox]

thanks

[true fox]

Ok, thanks

[glad spruce]

I'll work on the weekly scout tomorrow. I've been up since 4 AM (my timezone) and I need to sleep

[sleek plover]

Armour doesnt exist in french.

Amour however does❤️

[torn shoal]

yeah and amour is a bad thing

we only love the eagle bearer here

[storm axle]

I hate french people

[torn shoal]

we all do

[waxen sonnet]

Manhunt: Shades of Red - 12/11/2024 Weekly Scout 3 Collectible "Simulation" (Jack TDLR Edition so Hawkster can have a well deserved break for once)

||This weeks Manhunt Collectible comm is titled Simulation, and In it, We hear a conversation between Theo Parnell and Trig discussing The simulation (What we all know as the Descent Simulation testing grounds). ||

||We learn that before she died, Vivian Conley had told Theo about it's existence, much to Theo's disappointment that he did not get to experience the simulation himself and describing the system as "Incredible"||

||However, Trig, who is seemingly aware of the system informs Theo that while it's certainly impressive he goes on to describe it as a missed opportunity because users could take the simulation and create far more than what it was originally designed for, going as far to describe the simulation technology as "the potential is limitless".||

|| While Trig points out it's not possible to edit the parameter's of the simulations while the technology remains highly classified. Nonetheless Theo points out that if things don't turn around quickly, Classified wont mean anything and you could do anything you wanted to do with the technology||

[wicked gorge]

0/10 not Hawkster post, do better Barestto (jk and thank you)

[glad spruce]

Thank you

[feral tusk]

Hold on what season are we in now?

Cause i last understood that unconcious schafer has answers for us and kelso is trying to understand faye lau's actions that led us to saying that she betrayed the division to protect us from some unknown threat

[torn shoal]

you missed a lot

time to go to ngn channel and get the recap

[glad spruce]

Year 6 Season 2

[waxen sonnet]

👁️👄👁️
I cri now

[glad spruce]

As a heads up, Jack Barsetto will handle summarizing Manhunt comms for this season while I handle summarizing Descent comms for this season from here on out

[wicked gorge]

I sorry Barsetto, if was a very good recap : p now cry semi happy tears

[waxen sonnet]

Sucks to be you guys Im doing the write up's for this seasons collectibles from now on to give Hawkster a break so you're stuck with me

[wicked gorge]

Im kinda surprised it took you this long to do it

Least Hawkster can rest peacefully now until next Tuesday

[glad spruce]

Yep. Kinda needed that, especially the one month break from editing the wiki

[ornate gull]

I kinda wonder

Why hunter in survival only appear when agent fire flare for Extraction

[waxen sonnet]

Wander a big city in a snowstorm looking for a single person in a ghost town, only for them to shoot a flare and show everyone were they are, they'd naturally show up

[ornate gull]

And i find it weird that they scrap DZ flare mech for survival

When you fire flare in DZ, it will attract every faction

[waxen sonnet]

Do you mean, "Why do only hunters show up when you fire the flare?"

[ornate gull]

Yes

[sick lantern]

I presume they likely had other, “not freezing to death in a snowstorm”, related things to be bothered with rather than go out of their way to mess with Division agents

[ornate gull]

Aren't DZ less affected from Snowstorm?

[wicked gorge]

Well if I had to guess, most of the factions in the dz didn’t want to freeze and are probably hiding

To an extent yes

[ornate gull]

And yet some still decide to patrol and roaming or hanging out at landmark

[wicked gorge]

Well its New York, most of the population is their own breed of people

[waxen sonnet]

I would agree with Webkinz, he's most likely the most correct awnser on that question.

You'd not really focus on a fight with an agent in minus degrees weather over not freezing to death

[torn shoal]

When you wanna kill agents, there isnt 50 places to go, either you catch them by chance roaming, or by chance clearing a landmark, but it could be just random factions fighting
Only agents have flares, cause they are the only one with air support (in div 1 at least), that mean your best bet to kill an agent, is to wait for that flares then show up

Other factions dont really care about the chopper, they got nothing to gain, also the blizzard was hurting a lot so they went I side. Mostly

[storm axle]

Is Neon Genesis Evangelion real in division lore

Ywa

My questions are best

[glad spruce]

Most likely not

[storm axle]

Jeez

Btw

Best Divison quote

Or your favorite

Ok

We all know that best division quote is

Of course its

"My back is all faked up. I need some meds bad!"

[glad spruce]

Mine is this

We're the only ones still on mission. If an Agent steps out of line, we're here to clean up the mess. - The Recruiter```

[storm axle]

WARNING, You have disavowed the Division, and are marked as rogue.

[wicked gorge]

Searching for “way out of vault”. Zero matches

[next hemlock]

Something something wristwatch

[wicked gorge]

“Piece of shit Wristwatch”-Manny Ortega

[next hemlock]

Don’t know if you could swear was gonna say that

[wicked gorge]

There are some exceptions

[next hemlock]

Ok

[sour perch]

"You can try to stop me, hunt me down, kill me. But this is bigger than any of us. So you're going to ask yourself, is this a fight that you can win."

Honestly one of my favorite quotes from Aaron Keener.

[next hemlock]

Mines “keep your head on a swivel, I’ve detected a manhunt in your vicinity”

[storm axle]

Btw

Do we know anything about rest of us goverment
Im talking about secretaries, congressmen and other

Other than pres and that hunters leader who is HSD secretary

[next hemlock]

No idea

[ornate gull]

Im wondering do in div3

Isac have info about Hunter

And say: "Hunter in proximity"

And: "Hunter's [SHD Tech name] detected"

[sudden mortar]

"It's a freaking cistern! That's what it's called. Do you call an ambulance a van? No, because there's a word for it: ambulance!" -Random outcast member.

[torn shoal]

"négative ramos"

[cold bramble]

If anything isac will most likely be changed in the div 2 story before 3 @ornate gull

That’s what I feel anyway

[gaunt ice]

booooo

my goat is being replaced by a fraud genderbent version

[waxen sonnet]

"Because Yesterday, We were ordinary citizens. But Today, We are the Division"

Edit: Also "When Society Falls, We Rise"

• Division 1's "Yesterday" teaser trailer

[waxen sonnet]

I Get the feeling we'll still keep ISAC, Man's too Iconic now to loose, perhaps we'll get to choose tbh

[cold bramble]

Is that the one with the original map that was shown?

[waxen sonnet]

I Dont think so, as it was a purely cinematic trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtliuEQuWcc

[tepid ibex]

pulls out flashbang

[cold bramble]

Ohh I know which one you mean

[undone nova]

Let me guess about the undercovers like Faye Lau and Viper, they only joined the black tusk faction to know their true intentions?

[ashen jungle]

Lau joined so she could kill the POTUS.

or, Ellis I guess. Only kinda the POTUS, legally speaking.

[glad spruce]

Yes and for Faye, she tried to intercept DIAMOND as a way to undermine the Black Tusk and Hunters

As for Viper, I'd reckon she had second thoughts after joining Black Tusk and decided to rectify that by supplying Keener with intel and helping Faye enter the Black Tusk

[cold bramble]

So where do we stand with this situation rn? Do we have any other double agents inside black tusk?

[glad spruce]

No idea. At this stage, we're starting our alliance with Keener since he has a base set up in Brooklyn and has the Hunter roster

[cold bramble]

Yeah ngl I’m excited for that. Be interesting not being constrained to the division under government direction (well what’s left of it at least)

[waxen sonnet]

We actually haven't been for quite some while now, since really Ellis Disappeared for that matter.

[cold bramble]

Oh wait what? Seems I’ve missed something cuz I just assumed after Ellis went things just carried on as normal with leadership

[glad spruce]

I think the moment we learned that Ellis was working with Black Tusk, we went "rogue"

[waxen sonnet]

Really we've been working under the JTF More than anything atm given our missions are given to us and directed by Manny.

[glad spruce]

Exactly

[cold bramble]

Hm that’s interesting

[gaunt ice]

because the JTF is the last “official” organisation in the city so

[crude flax]

Manny is the President

[cold bramble]

I thought they disbanded shortly after the situation with keener in dz?

[glad spruce]

They did not

[gaunt ice]

thats just the NYC one and “disbanded” is definitely one way to say “most of them got killed and the rests formed a small militia”

the DC JTF is still working,a skeleton crew anyway

[sick lantern]

NYC JTF got disbanded? sorta
at some point between games when Rhodes formed the Peacekeepers

[gaunt ice]

last we heard the main JTF force were working on outer DC which….yeah they probably all died tbh

[cold bramble]

Ah I see

[crude flax]

why is keener the good guy all of a sudden again

[cold bramble]

Man I really wish we could go to other parts of America and see what’s happening there

Wish it was like a gta map. Of the whole country or just a huge portion of it at least

[waxen sonnet]

Give it time, We'll get something new with Division 3 I suspect.

Division 2 for example nearly focused on New Orleans, so perhaps we'll go back there

[cold bramble]

New Orleans? 👀

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, There's artwork and articles out there from original drafts back in 2018 of the Division 2 that included New Orleans instead of Washington

Seattle too according to interviews at the time

[cold bramble]

Ooh nice

[glad spruce]

I wouldn't go that far. Our alliance with him is more out of convenience given he has leverage over Black Tusk/Hunters

[waxen sonnet]

He's the enemy of our Enemy that makes us kinda freinds who expect him to stab us in the back the minute that first enemy is dead.

[glad spruce]

Exactly

[wicked gorge]

Think of him as a anti-hero, still a bad guy but sees the bigger threat and is willing to put his differences aside

[hard crow]

can somebody quickly explain to me why we teaming up with keener

i thought i burnt him alive with my skill build

[glad spruce]

Lore /=/ Gameplay. Jesus christ

[hard crow]

did my man s leep for months or something

[glad spruce]

I swear to god

[wicked gorge]

Hawkster he ain’t worth it

[hard crow]

what about other rogues then?

you two are rude btw

deleting your comment makes it worse for you man, not cool

[ornate gull]

Rogue agent are like splinters cell

[wicked gorge]

Yep, I was being a jerk and I am sorry

[ornate gull]

They not to be trusted

[wicked gorge]

But Hawkster has had this conversation several times in this chat and I didn’t want him to go off on you about it

[waxen sonnet]

Go to your happy place My favourite Arabian Cat. Deep breathes.

[waxen sonnet]

Please understand this is not rude, it is Frustration, this line of questions has been asked numerous times this week, let alone this month, respectfully if you'd have put your question into the search bar first, you'd have found those very recent Questions and answers from myself, Hawkster and others already.

[wicked gorge]

Well I did say I can be rude in response to his response

[waxen sonnet]

We're not rude we are just honest.

THE KETTLE SPEAKS

[wicked gorge]

I guess you could say, he’s steaming

[late void]

it's not worth getting frustrated by something like that, just figure out a coping mechanism (like 'ignore the question' or 'have a copy/paste response ready'). Realistically almost noone actually searches discord for answers before asking a question

and obviously google doesn't crawl discord

[waxen sonnet]

That was pretty good for you Phoenix.

[wicked gorge]

Why thank you

[hard crow]

I aint asking shit anymore then to save yalls time

[waxen sonnet]

@hard crow

[wicked gorge]

You can still ask questions, just some are gonna be a scale tipper for some

Baresetto, did you really scroll up to may just to answer that?

[waxen sonnet]

👁️ 👄 👁️
Noooooo

[wicked gorge]

That’s dedication right there

[glad spruce]

Alright, I'm gonna give the best summary I can.

So, back in Y5S3 while we were following Agent Kelso's trail, we discovered a number of comms that revealed behind the scenes with Keener and Parnell. After the events at the Tombs, it turns out that Theo survived his encounter with the Division using ANNA and manipulating ISAC. That trick was likewise used with Keener after the encounter at Liberty Island. After faking their deaths, they used the opportunity to keep tabs on Faye Lau's infiltration in Black Tusk.

After Y5S3 finale mission, we discover that Keener is "back from the dead". He took a Mobile SHD Server and left New York alongside Theo and Kelso who allied with them.

In Y6S1, Keener and his team went to DC to parley with the Division. To establish trust, Keener put a series of tests for the agents to complete. After those were done, we fight against Black Tusk hostiles who were trying to eliminate Keener in the Federal Emergency Bunker. After that, Keener heads to the White House. He was allowed entry, but under Manny's terms, he was to be put in incarceration until Kelso is recovered and can verify him

Forward to Y6S2, we help Keener in recovering his team, starting with Theo. They were forced to seperate by a Black Tusk squad . However, Theo doesn't trust us, so we need to follow his trail across DC to find him

[waxen sonnet]

And then we'll bloody well have to do it all over again with Kelso.

[glad spruce]

Crack pot prediction: Y6S3 is gonna involve us rescuing Bridgette Douglas from Black Tusk's clutches

Why I say this? Cuz she's been featuring a lot since Y5S3 in form of comms. That can't be a coincidence

[wicked gorge]

I was gonna say you really think they’ll bring her back from the dead, then i remembered what the story been so far so

[waxen sonnet]

Or Bridgette left us a back door to the Hunter's technological system, negating there advantage, which is apart of Keeners Countermeasures against them

Something a little more grounded

[wicked gorge]

If Bridgette was still alive, she’d probably be in Brooklyn, I doubt after faking her death she would go back to the black tusk

[glad spruce]

Makes sense. There's basically no Black Tusk presence in there. So if she faked her death, she'd go into hiding

[wicked gorge]

I agree with Barsetto, that’s more plausible then Douglas being held captive after being flagged as rogue to the bt and after faking her death

[waxen sonnet]

I doubt we'll see her back alive, that gimmick can only be used so many times before everyone's gonna be retconning death's like it's going outta fashion.

Lots of dead, annoyingly and sadly, have to stay dead.

[wicked gorge]

Maybe the reviver hive is just full of Red Bull and smelling salts

[glad spruce]

There are only two characters who were previously dead that who are now alive

And no, I don't count Hornet cuz we killed him for good

[wicked gorge]

Keener and Theo? Or you referring to someone else

[glad spruce]

Yes, Keener and Theo

[waxen sonnet]

Emeline shaw kinda counts as numero 3

[glad spruce]

Personally I wouldn't count that cuz we never confirmed the body and only assumed she was in that boat

[potent smelt]

it was most likely just the spotter eyeing someone that looked similar to Emeline

the dialogue made it very, very ambigious if Emeline was even on the boat at all

[wicked gorge]

See that doesn’t make sense, you have the leader of one of the enemy factions and after you blow up the boat, y’all are like nah she’s dead, we don’t have to worry

[glad spruce]

Well, nobody said we're the most competent 😛

[potent smelt]

I think a headcanon could be that the boak exploded and sank, before we were able to confirm who was on board

and at that point it would be a waste of time and resources to try and go into the contaminated water just to make sure (only to find charred bodies)

[wicked gorge]

Were the grunts, as long they keep feeding us energy drinks and crayons, we wont ask questions

[sudden mortar]

Cindy: they are GOING to the boat
Manny: we need to destroy that boat before she can leave!

• Destroys the boat before she reaches the boat *
  Manny: wth the outcast leader dead we---
  Me: what ?!?

[wicked gorge]

I didn’t know the true leader of the outcast was a tourist boat

[potent smelt]

Maybe im going insane but doesn't Cindy say she saw someone boarding the boat who "looked like Emeline" or something similar?

[waxen sonnet]

Can't survive by fleeing to the boat when there's no boat

[waxen sonnet]

That's correct, she says pretty much something identical to that

[potent smelt]

might have to replay roosevelt island

oh okay

[wicked gorge]

There can’t be an enemy in the building if there isn’t a building

[sudden mortar]

By the way the boat have only one deck, so idk why Manny thought that Emeline was dead

[wicked gorge]

Well we are the good guys, we have to stupid sometimes

[glad spruce]

Ngl, last season's two Descent comms that involved Manny and Birdie were amusing

[waxen sonnet]

Manny comes across like trying to teach your elders how computers work

[sudden mortar]

I think Birdie is such a good character, I wished she would show more often.

[wicked gorge]

Birdie is totally the type of person to help you but will make you regret her helping you

[hard crow]

i feel like its possible to have a warhound as a skill

[wicked gorge]

Technically it was a skill

[hard crow]

it was?

[wicked gorge]

During the hornet manhunt, we modified a warhound to shoot repair traps to walk through the virus keener never made so we did technically have a warhound as a skill

[potent smelt]

New summoner build gameplay??? Throw pokeball that summons warhounds and friendly infantry???

[wicked gorge]

I use emp pulse, it was effective

[torn shoal]

yeah, thats me

[wicked gorge]

That makes a lot of sense Lyfe

[gaunt ice]

obviously she swam to the zoo

[torn shoal]

hey, whatever gets the job done

and also make you not ask for my help again

[pulsar valley]

So I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me.

Is Manny an actual member of the division or is he just a liaison with the JTF?

[opaque glen]

According to comms you find in the game he's a JTF communications officer (maybe not even an officer) that got reassigned to handling division comms right after the green poison

[pulsar valley]

I do remember that now that you say it, it's been 6 years hard to keep it all together in the mind lol

I asked because I'm going to be running a tabletop RPG division game in the near future and I am attempting to have a firm grasp of the lore and fill any gaps there might be

[opaque glen]

That's super neat what system are you using for the ttrpg?

[pulsar valley]

Well as of right now a slimmed down Pathfinder 2nd edition but for a while I was considering using vampire the masquerade 5e with some significant Homebrew

Want the game to have a very role play heavy narrative

Really want to focus on the trials and tribulations of the division agents

The moral struggles and such

It's not going to be a one to one replica of the division it's more like what would it be like if the movie Bright had a crossover with the division lol

Unfortunately having a one-to-one division tabletop RPG might be a little too niche for some people lol

I also want to be able to bring some of my favorite things from other Clancyverse games as well, you know like rainbow six, Ghost recon, and splinter cell.

I like to call it my "near future dystopian milsim fantasy" lol

Also sorry for the info dump😋

[waxen sonnet]

I love the logic of Emeline.

"Man the Division just effortlessly cut through my entire faction, including my most loyal of Personal guard, seems a great time to take a trip to the zoo!"

[ashen jungle]

It's their actual main base, she wasn't going on vacation.

[waxen sonnet]

Rosevelt Island, a Perfect Holiday Home

[ornate gull]

I was wondering

Why Riker not make Riker Island Prison into a stronghold?

[sweet crypt]

I think there were very little supplies and food put out there.

[wicked gorge]

Since the Jtf was diverting most of the manpower and resources to manhattan, Rikers probably ran out of food and infrastructure on the island started to disrupt, plus would you like to stay at the place where you were a prisoner

[ashen jungle]

The commute alone.

[pulsar valley]

I wonder if thedivision has any support systems in place for division agents families

Or are division agents expected to be single for the duration of their service lol

[gaunt ice]

probably just the usual compensation and insurance

they were never expected to be activated

[pulsar valley]

I'd like to explore the psychological toll of such things

We obviously saw the toll it took on Fae

We really need more novelization

[gaunt ice]

didn’t her girlfriend die in hells kitchen and thats her breaking point

so i don’t think there’s anything on the initial contract that says you have to be single

[pulsar valley]

I thought it was her sister younger sister

I mean either way whether it be spouse or other family it had to have taken its toll

Having to worry about their safety on top of your personal safety and plus anyone else in your charge at the moment

Not to mention the safety of your cellmates

Does it ever give the exact background of each of the hyenas leadership?

[gaunt ice]

honestly yea i forgot if thats her sister or girlfriend

[pulsar valley]

I played div 1 for a much shorter time than I did the div 2

So some of the story from that game is hazy from time to time

Spent so much more time in DC than New York that I sometimes forget New York was a thing lol

Really can't wait to go back to winter at some point lol

Being in a perpetual summer for 6 years it's kind of dull lol