division-universe

[wicked gorge]

The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand

[waxen sonnet]

I Love how even as an English guy, I get that, Florida has that much of a Reputation

[gaunt ice]

only thing worse than not having power is having power knowing you cant use them

yes you have them on a little jar

[ashen jungle]

There's technically nothing stopping me, just a general "I shouldn't" vibe.

[wicked gorge]

The gators would stop the black tusk first before the hurricanes get them

[gaunt ice]

i mean i dont see any admin online so thats probably true

[ashen jungle]

back to Keener though: I do think he's going to die off at some point, and it's going to be after a "redemption arc".

[gaunt ice]

oh yea totes

buuut hear me out
the story would have to be interesting enough to keep people interested

because revivng Keener is definitely a deliberate attempt to make people care about it again

i.e the people who were coping about Keener still being alive from 4 years ago

[ashen jungle]

It's the perfect opportunity to have him instead fake his death, and go and be the main leader in "Division: Rogue".

[gaunt ice]

its gonna be a card game

[ashen jungle]

Nah, it's my game idea for div that I've been workshopping since before I joined the server.

[wicked gorge]

It’ll be the next division spin off

[wicked gorge]

Keener is the type of guy to hold all plus 4s in uno till you reach uno, those are the evilest of bastards

[ashen jungle]

I can picture Keener arguing that they stack.

[wicked gorge]

Another reason to shoot him

[ashen jungle]

Okay before I go, make sure y'all be nice to the newbies joining.
div lore is complicated enough without being mean about it.

[wicked gorge]

We’ll convince them keener is a good guy and didn’t do anything wrong in the past 🫡

[sudden mortar]

Vanguard is a good person, I can confirm he wouldn't do a bad thing

[gaunt ice]

nuh uh
uno no mercy

i cast +10
AND THEY STACK

[wicked gorge]

I hate uno due to being in a 2 and a half hour match once, never again

[gaunt ice]

i was playing uno in my english class with 3 other girls and had to pick up the tab of 20 cards

because i lost the +2 standoff

[wicked gorge]

Nah, keener definitely plays with those custom cards that say draw 80 or admit Im a good person

[storm axle]

What do you guys think about that division mobile game

[wicked gorge]

Tbh, I forgot about it

[storm axle]

And btw why is this game called "Tom Clancys The Divison" when Tom Clancy have nothing to do with it
(I know that Rainbow Six games are based on his books.)

[wicked gorge]

I haven’t kept up with it much after the first few months of development

[ashen jungle]

@storm axle Oh easy: Ubi bought his name back in 2008, so they can use it on anything.

[wicked gorge]

Rest in Peace Tom Clancy

[storm axle]

Tom Clancys star wars outlaws

[ashen jungle]

"intellectual property rights to the Tom Clancy name, on a perpetual basis and free of all related future royalty payments, for use in video games and ancillary products including related books, movies and merchandising products."

[storm axle]

Sounds good

[gaunt ice]

its mostly for theming since div1 was something that Tom Clancy could write

[wicked gorge]

If they did that, then a war would start

[gaunt ice]

thriller,lightly political stuff

well,at least its the ubi stuff that is "lightly political"

[ashen jungle]

Technically speaking: we could get a Tom Clancy Rabbids.

....I'm okay with this.

[storm axle]

Lol

[wicked gorge]

My only gripe is it’s the only Tom Clancy game not to exist in the main series
, I love the division so I would prefer we get more games like it that branch away from getting a special guest appearance from rainbow or Sam

[ashen jungle]

HAWX.

and maybe End War.

[gaunt ice]

does seem like an alternate timeline thing because Amherst was killed in a splinter cell book i think

[torn shoal]

tom clancy's tonyhawk skater pro

[wicked gorge]

Aint hawk a ghost recon game?

[torn shoal]

lets do that

[gaunt ice]

gunned down in an alley Thomas Wayne style

[wicked gorge]

Tom Clancy monopoly go

[ashen jungle]

Guess who wrote those books.

[wicked gorge]

Gasp

I thought Hawk was cannon to the gr universe tho

[storm axle]

Btw are his books good?

[wicked gorge]

I haven’t read much of his, but a lot of people loved his books

[ashen jungle]

The man was....interesting. If you're looking for accurate accounts of what it's really like, maybe find someone who was actually in the military.

but they're good political thrillers, as long as you follow his leanings.

Basically any political thriller from a long time ago read now is not going to age super well.

[storm axle]

Idk

Maybe i buy one of his books some

I like rainbow six so

[ashen jungle]

Can't hurt, although be warned that it's not like Siege.

[wicked gorge]

The only Tom Clancy book I’ve read is dark waters besides the division novels so I don’t think it would count so to speak

We dont talk about siege in this chat

Bad game

[storm axle]

Why not

I love siege

[ashen jungle]

well this is the div lore chat.

[gaunt ice]

i did remember a trivia about one of his books being so detailed he was brought in for questioning

[storm axle]

(I hate this game)

[wicked gorge]

Im joking but I hate rainbow now, the game is full of sweats and lost its identity

[gaunt ice]

the feds were lowkey concerned that he was a Soviet spy or something

[ashen jungle]

Research was his strong-suit for sure, but it's just research, not experience.

[wicked gorge]

Wasnt Tom Clancy a chill guy?

[ashen jungle]

I'm excusing myself from the conversation so people don't try and shoot me over the replies to this.

[wicked gorge]

Understandable, it’s like how I did not care for the Godfather

[gaunt ice]

i tried pulling that joke and people didnt get it

[sick lantern]

it’s a thematic thing moreso than anything. Tom Clancy titles range from the slightly absurd Endwar to ruthless.com which is about running a company

[wicked gorge]

But chairs……. It insist upon itself

[torn shoal]

he wasnt great

[storm axle]

If we are talking about writers

I will just add few words about Andrzej Sapkowski

Polish writer, author of Witcher

He sold right of Witcher to CD red project thinking that games about Gerald won't be popular and they will be bad or smth

And after few years he wanted to sue CD for over 60 milions

Because he sold right to Witcher fo 20k pln

And after succes of games he wanted more

Yea

[torn shoal]

yeah he aint great either

lot of sexism in his books

[ember vector]

I never paid attention to the little NPCs dialogues inside the Base of Operations in the first game but now that I do, I must say they are so sweet! They add so much to the world and how people try to adjust to the new norm.

[wicked gorge]

World building at its best

[storm axle]

Every time I enter the base i hear

I need to see a doctor

Because one npc

Is always saying same line

And then he says that his back hurts or somethinv

I love div 1 but

Bosses are pain in my ass

I died 4 times on that mall boss

[ember vector]

These little dialogues take place as you upgrade your Base of Operations. Right now, I just had a character explaining how the government was responsible for the virus and the JTF officer next to him was wondering what the government would get back from this new situation. Another one I had right before was how a female NPC moved to NYC for a dream job and now she wishes she didn't take this opportunity because of how bad the situation went down. Another female NPC also said how she wanted to be pregnant for a long time and now that she is pregnant she wonders if everything is going to be alright given the circumstances.

One that I loved: a JTF officer is cracking jokes with another officer who is less happy. This second officer, bad mood and all, wonders where his own sense of humor went during the pandemic and then hopes a JTF patrol will pick it up if they happen to find it on the streets. 🤣

[storm axle]

Lol

When i was in security wing

Two JTF officers were arguing about raport or smth

One wanted to write true about something

And other one wanted to add few things

That would help them

Btw this entire game is top tier for world making or smth

Sometimes when you go down the road some npc will thank you for your service

Some will try to break into car

Some argue about something

Its makes game look more real

[sudden mortar]

Speaking of which, have you guys heard a dialogue where an outcast makes a call to a guy and thank him for having him in a podcast or something like that, sometimes I see this dialogue in the subtitles but never saw the outcast speaking that.

[tall lion]

dang, i was only away for 24 hours, 212 messages?

ahem, anyways

you guys tried reshades on the division 2?

it's amazing, but it can make your eyes burn

[tall lion]

"My back is f#ked up. i need some meds bad!" -Division 1 npc

[next hemlock]

I forgot about that

[ember vector]

Hudson Refugee Camp. Two NPCs around an oil drum fire think the Cleaners there are CERA or officers affiliated with them.

The male NPC feels a bit uneasy because, in his view, CERA abandoned this place a long time ago...

[storm axle]

cera doesnt exist anymore

and btw why did Gordon starded this enite epidemy?

we was mad on society or goverment?

[ashen jungle]

A very simplified version of it is "human made climate change was the problem, so less humans was the solution".

[storm axle]

so nothing oryginal

[sick lantern]

you do know you can beat the base game and receive this information yourself

[storm axle]

i know

[ashen jungle]

There's a lot more to his backstory, with how feverent he was about it, lecturing at colleges for years before, even to picking money as how to transfer the virus as a "symbol of human greed."

[cold bramble]

why did he spread it through money tho

[storm axle]

fast way i think

it was black friday so many people had contact with money

and no one espexted that

[ashen jungle]

Yes, but also yeah as I said, as a symbol of what he saw as one of the major contributors to the manmade climate change: greed.

[storm axle]

btw are there any modes for div 1?

[ashen jungle]

This is the lore channel, if you're asking if there's DLC with other game modes for div1, then #td1-general is your best bet, but tl;dr yes.

[storm axle]

ok

im going to try div 1

i mean joe

bye

[ember vector]

Yeah he nearly started a riot as he was presenting a paper at a university.

[torn shoal]

everybody touches it, so easy to spread germs, + symbolic

but tbh the "human are the virus" stuff really aged badly over time with current events

same with thanos and any other villain that has this kind of rethoric

and tbh it was already bad at the time but people were mostly uneducated

[wicked gorge]

Idk how the rest of the world does it, but the day after thanksgiving is Black Friday in the US where a lot of stuff is discounted and millions of people crowd stores to buy and browse. Amherst contaminated dollar bills to increase the effectiveness of its spreading through the thousands of shoppers and travelers, also it’s pretty symbolic how he used money which is the considered the root of all evil and how greed can destroy humanity

[storm axle]

Guys

What city will div 3 take place you think

[wicked gorge]

Chicago

[storm axle]

Maybe

I think it will happen on west coast

[torn shoal]

thats mostly only the us

the rest of the world doesnt do black friday

some stores try to do that and import it but its really meh

its a real difference in consumer behavior

usually we dont buy stuff we dont need overpriced for the sake of owning stuff

also the going in debt thing for litterally anything

and credit score like what is that

anyway

black friday is almost exclusively us

greedy holiday for a greedy country

[wicked gorge]

Like I said idk if the rest of the world does it

I don’t really care for Black Friday anyway

You really dislike America, don’t you Lyfe

[storm axle]

I wish that div had one thing

In far cry 5 when you kill each member of Seed family the faction is getting weaker

And it would be nice that after you kill most of cleaners bosses they will just get weak

[wicked gorge]

That was region type and yeah it would make sense, however many of the factions probably had different leadership roles in them, case in point we killed Ferro and Barrett yet dragov and Conley took power and made them stronger

[storm axle]

I hate cleaners so mych

They are stupid and annoying g

[wicked gorge]

Well they started with good intentions but they drank way too much of their kool aid

[storm axle]

Welp

No

It was even told by one of the characters that burned corpses spread green flu

[wicked gorge]

Like I said good intentions till they went too far, im pretty sure they worked with the government/Jtf in the early days

Then Ferro realize his favorite radio talk show host stop calling him and he felt sad and decided to burn everything infected

[storm axle]

Jeez

Btw

Lmb and Black Tusk are PMC

[wicked gorge]

Yes

[storm axle]

Why then they want to take over USA so badly

I understand Tusk bc they are russians

[wicked gorge]

Black tusk isn’t entirely Russian, just the CEO

LMB were hired my Wall Street executives to protect Wall Street from looters and rioters until the failure of the dz and after the Wall Street executives pulled out of manhattan, Bliss said f this and went AWOL

They maintained control over upper east manhattan and were slowly trying to conquer more regions.

Black Tusk is composed of special forces from around the world, their main infantry description says what types of branches and groups they recruit from

Consider Black Tusk like ATLAS from advance warfare a bit

[torn shoal]

you might find out if you go in the rest of the world that most of the people hate the us actually

but its not really a discussion for this chan

or even this discord

[wicked gorge]

I know most of the world dislikes the US, I dislike the US but that’s just country’s being flawed

[torn shoal]

yeah, they dont dislike it, they hate it, for reasons i cant say here

but you know

current events

[wicked gorge]

Welcome to modern society

Man, don’t you love it when an rpg gets political

[torn shoal]

i mean

division was always political

most games are political

like when paul rhodes does his speech in div 1 about gov being all powerful and that they cant trust agents

thats political

and its not subtle, its very much crystal clear

[ember vector]

Maybe it's not of value but the ECHO found in Broadway Emporium says Bill and Jim Elsoph, the co-founders of Aloysius Hotels have been quarantined in Brooklyn (with a 97.4% probability of survival). If I remember correctly, Aloysius has a connection with Vexix. Maybe they will play a part in the Brooklyn DLC!

[sudden mortar]

I would say Black hand from Just Cause.

[wicked gorge]

I never played just cause

Also its cannon the assassins creed games are in the division universe

[torn shoal]

not really ?

splinter cell is

[ashen jungle]

Is it though?

The outfit doesn't really count, otherwise we're canon with Resident Evil.

[torn shoal]

haha

cant wait for the hastune miku outfit

[ashen jungle]

Gesundheit.

[wicked gorge]

In the extremes comic, the contact guy that mantis killed in his apartment was playing assassins creed on his computer

I wasn’t talking about the actual lore but they’re video games in the universe

[wicked gorge]

How is splinter cell canon

[torn shoal]

i dont remember but few days ago it was mentionned i think

[ashen jungle]

I count cross-promos like that as soft-canon at best.

[wicked gorge]

Technically all the Tom Clancy costumes and clothing can be considered cannon since they could be video games and its people cosplaying

[storm axle]

Why most of named agents went rough?

[wicked gorge]

Cause they game says so

[ashen jungle]

Lack of moisturiser after the apocalypse.

[tepid ibex]

Lack of moisturizer provided by the SHD*

Why do you think they went to the LMB?

[ashen jungle]

LMB here standing for the Last Maybelline Bottle in existence.

[tepid ibex]

Gotta make do with what ya got

[ashen jungle]

as for why they went Rogue, well if they didn't then they wouldn't be named enemies. They'd be unnamed corpses in a big pile.

[sleek plover]

Cuz we already doused them with each poweder for u

[tall lion]

Yeah, best bet are chicago

But i think it likely won't spread anytime soon

Cera and military sealed off washington

or so i think?

also new york too

So...div 3 will still take place in washington?

[wintry pike]

side-eyes the bodies of the dozens of AI "Rogue Agents" my character has dropped over his career

[ashen jungle]

You should listen to the comms about how the world is doing before you assume that only 2 cities are infected.
for one thing; Amherst only put the money in NYC, it spread already. So that's 100% incorrect that it didn't spread.

@storm axle There's a youtube channel called "NGN", they're the best external source for div lore, if you want to catch up. Just be warned: lots of spoilers if you aren't overly careful.

[sleek plover]

I must imagine, if we are ever going to fight roamers, what are the chances we are gonna jump around convoys of trucks mad max style?

[pallid dew]

I feel like it'd be cool to fight on a long train, going from car to car, clearing enemies out

[sick lantern]

if AC was canon and real in Division, then fun fact, Division agents would technically be Templars/aligned with their interests

George Bush was canonically a Templar and was the irl signatory to NSPD51

[ember temple]

Why do you talk so much trash about the US everyday? We get it move on. Just crazy to me that this has gone on this long with nobody saying or doing anything.

[sleek plover]

problem is, i dont think division is ubiverse, but they belong to tom clancyverse

[ashen jungle]

Frankly, I'm happy for them to stay separate from the Splinter Cell umbrella.

[torn shoal]

Cause it's deserved

[sleek plover]

that i agree

[torn shoal]

Seeing how buggy the ground is sometimes I wouldnt count on that

I clip through the ground way more than I should

[ashen jungle]

Deserved or not, let's keep IRL stuff out of this channel. We're here to talk div lore, after all.

[torn shoal]

Im trying to, but so much of it is connected to real events

And the fact the game is trying to have political commentary on the world and the gov doesn't really help

Granted it's not that heavy, it's still there

[ashen jungle]

Of course, and it's all handled with about as much grace as a fish to the face.
but there's a lot of parts of the game that are unconnected and those are way more interesting. The weird illuminati-esque storyline going on now is the big one.

[torn shoal]

Yeah clearly

I mean I really dont understand why they would go that way tbh

Most of the storylines werent like awesome story telling but still none had gone the crazy route

[ashen jungle]

Same reason you pick a PMC faction as a villain instead of domestic terrorists: it's cleaner.

and I mean, Clancy stuff does tend to go this route eventually.

[torn shoal]

Yeah but it still sound like some nutjob telling you about his latest conspiracy theory

If the game started this way it would be fine cause no break of immersion but it tried to be more grounded before

Anyway, it's not the worst, just not of a fan of it

[ashen jungle]

I think if you google that it brings up a picture of Clancy himself.

[torn shoal]

Haha

I wish ubi didn't got cold feet with the story

And actually went all the way in it's message

But I guess shareholders

So much wasted potential

On the other hand, their writing was never great so many it's for the best idk

Im conflicted about this

It's always "wow this could be great" but never is

[waxen sonnet]

It's Cleaner 🥁

[storm axle]

Btw

I just done gordons apratemnet with ferro

And i found that on docs desk you can find book

New York Collapses

Which is book based on the division

[glad spruce]

Interestingly enough, I didnt notice the key art for Shades of Red until people pulled it from the events on this server and posted it on Twitter

[waxen sonnet]

??

[glad spruce]

https://x.com/BLACK_TVSK/status/1850079133939703955?t=mg3zcITW7H0C_6Mo79pExQ&s=19

[gaunt ice]

is that like an official promo account or a fan account

bit confused with the #joinbacktusk down there

[waxen sonnet]

Fan account, But he's normally pretty trust worthy,

So what he posts stuff like that its likely legit

[wicked gorge]

Thank you Hawkster, my dumbass searched up shades of red and was looking at color shading

[torn shoal]

Share your fav shade of red

Mine is b90e0a

[near totem]

#940B08 is cool

[wintry pike]

Hm, pie-in-the-sky crossover event, agents get a weird comm signal, start seeing a crew of weirdos running around DC with shit they've never seen before, SHD or otherwise. Track em down to their hideout, standoff between Division and team Rainbow. Be pretty sick I think

[waxen sonnet]

Wat

[wintry pike]

Sorry, reading back through messages about Division bein in the Clancyverse along with Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell and whatnot, plus I've been up entirely too long so my brain is shot

Makes bad ideas sound good

[waxen sonnet]

PSA If you just add the division 2 before that on either end, you'll get a few youtube video's covering the event announcement

Rogue gold and the likes.

[wicked gorge]

I did that and still got the shades of red

[waxen sonnet]

What in the non Google Chrome Internet did you do, Put that in myself and it came up right away?

[wicked gorge]

Same, crimson is my favorite type of red

I typed the division shades of red

I saw some division art yet but still got a good amount of red shades

[waxen sonnet]

Fair enough, Either way, Just gotta wait less than 48 hours now, 1pm London time Monday

[keen maple]

I mean the Cleaners are obviously the good guys

[wicked gorge]

Technically correct

[torn shoal]

technically not

they dont do quarantine which is the right call, they do extermination that caused mass panic and fleeing causing a worse outbreak

viruses like the dollar flu are all the same : quarantine protocol

which meant back in the day : 40 days of isolation

thats the only way we got rid of thoses on a mass scale

thoses protocols exist cause we have learned from experience

and we know human nature

we aim to protect as many people as possible, and threatening infected people is the worst way to keep them calm/grouped

meaning they will flee and propagation of the virus will worsen

remember, you only need 1 guy that make it out to spread it

[storm axle]

I just found out that factions can fight against each other

Just spotted fight between cleaners and rikers

[keen maple]

Womp Womp they use napalm so there cool

[storm axle]

Btw

Why is there UV lamps at entrences to safe rooms

This is dying light reference or smth?

[keen maple]

Also the problem with the quarantine procedures is that when Patient X was infected, it already started spreading while incubating on Black Friday

I mean this is stuff Amhesrt said himself

Pretty much to a degree

[jaunty parcel]

What up

[torn shoal]

unless its in the pier in div 1

[torn shoal]

uv is used to spot germs in hospitals

and anything organic really

meaning if you dont wash your hands after going to the toilet your hands will light up under uv

[storm axle]

Hn

Btw how many people survived green flu?

1 bilion?

More? Less?

[waxen sonnet]

Depends, Outside of Africa and Asia, everywhere else was hit hard.

Varying successes were dependant on nation to nation responses, but we know the US, Canada, South America and Europe all suffered

[storm axle]

I mean entire world

[waxen sonnet]

There's no offical numbers, But given it's 90% rate of fatality, It's likely absolutley devastating, bearing in mind its based on Smallpox, Historically in real life Smallpox killed 500 Million people before we created the Vaccine.

Operation Dark Winter's real life Mock Smallpox "killed" over 1.1 Million people before the exercise was called to an end.

[storm axle]

Only in New Orleans

[waxen sonnet]

Sorry?

[storm axle]

Didint dark winter happen in new Orleans

Oklahoma

[waxen sonnet]

Operation Dark Winter's Chosen locations were Oklahoma City, with other outbreaks in Georgia and Pennsylvania

In real life it all took place inside Andrews Air Force base however.

[waxen sonnet]

They're featured in game as Sanitizers, those big purplish-bluey lights you seem in some BOO'S like Haven, In real life they're powerful enough that not only would they detect the germs (and show up as @torn shoal says), If you stand under one long enough, you can kill off germs or viruses under them, which is why I believe they were seen quite often in the Dark zones too.

Really though its still safer to still wear something with an aspect of CBRN Protection that can just be chemically washed or destroyed after potential exposure, like you see on some corpses (Ironically)

[storm axle]

Good to know

Btw NYPD officers have orginal NYPD logo on their uniforms

But in div they should have fictional one

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, its Just something about the rights to the name

Like, the real life NYPD Didnt give Permission

[storm axle]

But npc have real life logo

[torn shoal]

why ?

[storm axle]

BC ubi created new logo for game

But npc have real life kne

[waxen sonnet]

Its also why some Weapons feature the manufacturer's name, and other guns are obviously that gun, but named different, Its all just Ubisoft getting copyright permissions

[storm axle]

Jeez

[torn shoal]

yeah

[storm axle]

Im saying that NYPD in division have different logo than in real life

[torn shoal]

copyrights are annoying

[storm axle]

But npcs have real life logos on their uniforms that they shoudnt have

[torn shoal]

its always the same reason

copyrights

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, its literally down to what permissions they have.

[torn shoal]

thats why most stores arent the same name as irl

and lot are replaced with a generic one

[storm axle]

I would love to see adidas ad on time square

[torn shoal]

the only change that isnt for copyright is the red cross for healing/anything medical

[storm axle]

Or some other real brand

[torn shoal]

cause of geneva convention

[torn shoal]

not gonna happen until they do a collab

[waxen sonnet]

Intratec TEC-9'S have to be called SMG-9's too

Intratec went broke, so nobody can "ask" permission for a tec-9's usage

[torn shoal]

you can

the copyrights went to some other company who bought whats left of it

[storm axle]

jeez

[waxen sonnet]

Oh, Might have to read that, I must be wrong, thanks for pointing that out Lyfe.

[torn shoal]

finding who is another problem tho

its very rare a right is really lost and nobody "has" it

in reality, somebody has it, but most likely doesnt even know it

for some rights its easy to know, put a music on youtube, the dmca bot will take it down and tell you "x company has the right and removed your video"

[waxen sonnet]

Look at every gun in game, they're all named mostly identical to the real life one, But dont use the manafacturers name for the same reason
E.G No Remington, H&K Etc

[torn shoal]

but for the rest, there is an office in every country for rights/patents/etc

[storm axle]

I know how it works

[torn shoal]

it has a record of everything

[storm axle]

But im not talking aboht guns

[waxen sonnet]

Then again, I didnt realise till the other day but 5.11 Tactical isnt just an In game brand, they're a real life (Very expensive) tactical outfitter

[torn shoal]

its the same thing tho, anything with copyrights cant be used

[storm axle]

Give me a second

[torn shoal]

cant use nike on a billboard the same way you cant use tec 9

[ashen jungle]

They're actually in some Ubisoft games because they did a brand deal with Ubi years back.
You can also find them in Breakpoint, likely others too.

[waxen sonnet]

Totally had no idea until i was Survival gear shopping and saw the exact backpack my Agent has in game for sale for like, £175 on Amazon

Turns out all the items in game are actually stuff they really make. Which is really neat

[ashen jungle]

The fact that it's probably the worst brandset in game is pretty funny.

[storm axle]

that why making div cosplay is so easy

you take anything from your wardrobe

and you just have to buy exact watch

[waxen sonnet]

Honestly though, I think its brilliant that way, really normalises an Agent as the average person right up to activation

[ashen jungle]

Actually.....they make smartwatch faces you can download.

[waxen sonnet]

Or you can buy the ACTUAL watch if you can find it, currently bidding on one on Ebay for £200

[torn shoal]

true cosplayer take the watch of another division cosplayer after taking them down

[waxen sonnet]

From the original collectors boxes in Div 1

[torn shoal]

change my mind

[storm axle]

bro is hunter

[storm axle]

you propably can find some cheaper versions

[waxen sonnet]

Yes, but the one from the Collectors is the most accurate one produced to date.

It's an exact 1 to 1 replica

[ashen jungle]

It's also massively (hah) overpriced.

[waxen sonnet]

There's only one left for sale that I can find 😦

£220 bucko's

[storm axle]

well

[ashen jungle]

just buy the cheapest smartwatch that you can change the face of, and download it. I guarantee you that div cosplays are rare enough that nobody is going to insult you for it.

[storm axle]

the division is so underrated and unpopular

[waxen sonnet]

It's not even for Cosplay, Its purely for me to collect with the other rare Division items 👀

[storm axle]

maybe third game will give this francise some popularity

btw

why wy cant use bikes in div 1

i would love to shoot some people on my bike

bike drive by

[waxen sonnet]

Honestly you can, but if you couldn't shoot while cycling IRL, Someone takes a shot and your dead before you get off the bike, so they kinda grounded it to be safer to walk I imagine

[ashen jungle]

I think ISAC would revoke your SHD watch if you rode by on a BMX.

[waxen sonnet]

Also, being on foot is slower sure, but allows you easier ability to move about

[storm axle]

i found one of there watches on polish version of ebuy

it was sold in 2019 for 135 złote

[ashen jungle]

Congrats, but this channel should really get back to the lore talk now.

[storm axle]

which is 35 usd

33

i just found nice looking shd patch on temu

temu is another online shop

[waxen sonnet]

Medik you can DM Me it, Rivens wants us to talk about in game story stuff before she does mod stuff

[storm axle]

dm what?

watch? patch?

[waxen sonnet]

Just in general, anything not related to the Lore cant be here

[sick lantern]

bruh

[storm axle]

What

[ashen jungle]

UV light helps kill microbes/viruses, etc.
It's a real thing that they use in actual viral labs.

[wicked gorge]

We’re preparing for the volatiles, but UV rays are used to kill viruses and are use for sanitation

[wicked gorge]

One day we will agree with each other, then we’ll become unstoppable

[torn shoal]

No we wont

[wicked gorge]

Yes we will Lyfe

We will be unstoppable

[sleek plover]

I said this before but hear me out guys

Brooklyn 99 crossover

[tall lion]

hear me out too, guys

Another div 2 raid

operation: firestorm

where we travel to washington's secret nuclear silo that the outcasts have taken over and trying to stop them from launching a nuclear

[wicked gorge]

The outcast having a nuke silo is crazy

[sour perch]

I just want another operation.

[cold bramble]

it would probably be the black tusk

[sick lantern]

battlefield 5 called they want their battle royale back

[sick lantern]

i think launching a nuke is slightly counterintuitive to spreading the virus

also, i’m relatively sure there are no nuclear launch facilities in DC and that it’s a fairly safe bet that there never will be because DC is an obvious first strike target

[gaunt ice]

im sure the 2 people who plays that will appreciate this

[torn shoal]

how would the outcast launch anything tho ?

you need presidential codes for that

president is dead

at best they could have a radioactive core scraped from all of this, which could be devastating, but def not any icbm capacity

if bt couldnt do this, outcast def cant

[wicked gorge]

It’s pronounced Gold Code

[wicked gorge]

How dare you shame that “masterpiece” of a battle royal

[torn shoal]

its prononced battle royalE

and there is only 1 masterpiece battle royale : the movie battle royale

[wicked gorge]

Well I don’t care for battle royalE and the only battle royalE I believe in is survival

[torn shoal]

man

where do you thing the term battle roayle came from ?

[wintry pike]

dirty bomb instead then? by now Outcasts are just out for revenge against who they see as responsible for abandoning them on Roosevelt Island, and since we kinda slapped their leader into the dirt they definitely want revenge for that

[torn shoal]

yeah, thats def in the realm of possible, but thats what the countdown mission is tho ? if you get outcast as enemy faction kelso states its risking this iirc

[waxen sonnet]

Cant fool me, It's a big red button in a Suit case with "PRESS ME"

[wicked gorge]

No it’s in the other suitcase with the big red button, next to the other suitcase with the big red button

[storm axle]

Guys

Can someone translate this text from SHD logo

You know 𝗘𝘅𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗶𝘀 𝗠𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗘𝘅𝘁𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗮 𝗥𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗮

I translated it to extremal evil extremal cure

But im not sure is that correct

Now I have

[storm axle]

In extreme evils
Last resort

[wicked gorge]

Im pretty sure it translates to desperate times call for desperate measures

[glad spruce]

^

While its literal translation is Extreme Evil, Extreme Remedy.

It's more commonly translated to "Desperate times call for desperate measures"

[storm axle]

Soooo

We dont know exacly

Ubi should just tell us what translation is correct

[torn shoal]

it is the actual translation

in french it translate to "aux grands maux les grands remedes"

which roughly mean "to great ailments the great remedy"

[storm axle]

In polish it tranlate to

Ekstremalne zło
ekstremalne środki

Extremal evil
Extremal measures

[tall lion]

you know what it's called

a football

literally, a football briefcase

[wicked gorge]

I know it’s called the football, that’s why I corrected Lyfe on the actual name of the nuclear codes. I was just going on with Jacks joke

[storm axle]

Guys

Do you have any interesting fact about games lore?

[waxen sonnet]

In Thomas Parott's Division books, we learn the Division is already running out of Drones, seeker mine and turrets, Because the SHD was slow to produce them (as it all had to be produced secretly) and first and second waves had used large amounts of the stock left

[sudden mortar]

Yes, on the United Nations mission, Charles Bliss crashed his helicopter on a building, I would rate his death 9 out of 11.

[torn shoal]

Omegalul

[sleek plover]

I know.

he should have been lynched by angry citizens he oppressed

[tall lion]

Ahhh...i see the joke here

[storm axle]

Who tf is charles bliss

Is 9/11 in lore?

[sick lantern]

play the game and find out

[sick lantern]

😭 what

[keen maple]

This guy 💀

[keen maple]

What about the 2nd Helicopter

[storm axle]

What

[torn shoal]

i see the jokes are kinda bombing

[waxen sonnet]

Charles Bliss was the head of the Last Man Battalion, a Large scale Private Military Company made up of mostly former experienced US Armed forces soldiers, Lt Col Bliss oversaw the deployment of the LMB Into New York within the first few days of the Green Poison Epidemic as he was paid by large financial companies to Securely protect Wall Street's buildings and Assets, before becoming disillusioned with this purpose and diverting his forces to impose an Authoritarian, Martial law style of control on area's of New York before being Killed by Second Wave Agents in the culmination of the Battle for the United Nations Building.

[storm axle]

I know that

I only didnt know who he was

But I know about lmb stuff

[oblique dagger]

You know that but also didnt know that?

What.

[storm axle]

I was told here what lmb was exacly

But no one told be about its leader

[oblique dagger]

Ah right OK now I understand.

[waxen sonnet]

Did you not play the first game by any chance?

[storm axle]

I?

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah

[storm axle]

Today I will complete police academy

[waxen sonnet]

Ah right I see

[storm axle]

Propably

I want to complete the game asap so im not focusing on lore

In game

[ember vector]

I always assumed Paul Rhodes lost his wife during 9/11.

[waxen sonnet]

He did.

His SHD Profile has it detailed in about half a sentence in passing, but it's true

[glad spruce]

Medik, don't take this harsh, but you probably need to finish the story before asking us questions about the story/lore.

It's for the best, so you don't get spoiled

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, I have to agree with Hawkster here, if you take your time and play it through Medik's, lots of your questions will get awnsered naturally as you play.

[storm axle]

I already spoiled entire game to myslef

Myself

[glad spruce]

Alright, but its best to play through the story to get more context

[sudden mortar]

The Arabic cat is right, take your time through the lore.

[glad spruce]

xD

[wicked gorge]

I like dark humor mate but I think that might be over the top for the server

[wicked gorge]

Still play through the campaign, like Hawkster, no offense but you have asked a few dumb questions that’s been explained already in the campaign

[waxen sonnet]

New Season Reveal Livestream in an hour

[gaunt ice]

today?

i thought its tomorrow?

[waxen sonnet]

Sever event tag shows today

[gaunt ice]

ten four

[waxen sonnet]

"Today at 15:30" is set on my event reminder

[sudden mortar]

Tomorrow is the new season day isn't?

[waxen sonnet]

Yes

Iirc, Reveal today, Launch tomorrow

[gaunt ice]

im still waiting for pts2 report

nonetheless yay more timegated descent comms

[torn shoal]

nah, thats the top of the humor tower

[waxen sonnet]

Dont make me summon the almighty Rainbow coloured AI.

[storm axle]

Omg

Base of operstions is now extended

There are kids and people

Funny thing is that no JTF officer in base of operations have gun

[torn shoal]

you have an armory to put guns

in military you dont go around with guns, thats a safety hazard

[storm axle]

I have armory

Oh

I mean

This is second biggest JTF base

Anyone could attack them at any monemt

[torn shoal]

you have scouts/sentinels to prevent that

guards dont exist just for the scenery

they are here to ring the alarm if something happen

[storm axle]

Yea

But there is no one guarding main entrence

[torn shoal]

you dont need to

[wicked gorge]

In the division they do

[torn shoal]

if someone comes at the main entrance they'd be seen by a mile before

[storm axle]

Magbe

But let's talk about base of operations

[torn shoal]

complete the campaing first man

[storm axle]

I just saw that there is more room than always

[torn shoal]

just complete the campaing then everything will make sense

[storm axle]

And there are kids inside

[torn shoal]

yes, its made to protect people

including children, who are people too

[storm axle]

But it's frist time that I see kids there

And entire new rooms that were blocked

[torn shoal]

yeah, cause you unlocked them

via the campaign

[wicked gorge]

Hmm, it feels like Lyfe is trying to tell you something

[storm axle]

Makes sense

[storm axle]

I will ask stupid questions

[torn shoal]

there is no stupid question

only questions that were asked before you found the answer ingame

[storm axle]

I'm asking these questions bc

[wicked gorge]

I was talking about the amount of times he mentioned the campaign in 2 minutes

[storm axle]

I am able to leave game for entire year

So I want to complete this game ASAP and I'm just curious

[torn shoal]

if you want answer : complete the campaing

[storm axle]

This is exacly what I'm doing rn

[wicked gorge]

I mean you can do that, but don’t ask us, enjoy the experience

[storm axle]

I'm trying

But I am the type of person that will spoil entire game after finishing one mission

[wicked gorge]

I mean you can ask questions, i just recommend don’t ask questions about factions till you play against them or have actual questions, you’re gonna ask stupid questions and more than likely a lot of people are gonna get annoyed with you so im trying to help you mate

[wicked gorge]

We’ll still respect people’s beliefs and don’t talk about it

[torn shoal]

lmao

thats not how it works

[waxen sonnet]

Well yeah, but In this channel its totally off topic and not needed to be joked about considering some americans will not take it well even years later.

So maybe dont.

[torn shoal]

americans never take anything well

and jokes are fine, we still talking about lore, no need for it to be a drag

[wicked gorge]

I know you dislike American Lyfe, but at least respect their beliefs considering that day is a dark day in the country’s history

Please enlighten me how 9/11 is apart of the lore

[torn shoal]

thats not about disliking the us, thats about makjing fun of everything the same

we make fun of every country

why should they be exempted ?

[waxen sonnet]

The time has come

@ashen jungle

[torn shoal]

bruh

you ping a mod cause we joke about the lore ?

[wicked gorge]

I dont make jokes like that about countries

[waxen sonnet]

It's the 9/11 Jokes in a sensible lore section,

So yes, I think its time Rivens comes tidy up the chat a bit.

[torn shoal]

man we didnt continue the joke, you're the one continuously talking about it

[waxen sonnet]

@glad spruce @wicked gorge Pre-Countdown has started on Twitch gents for the livestream, we're at 14 minutes counting down.

@gaunt ice you too buddy I forgot ya

[glad spruce]

Got it

[gaunt ice]

gotcha

not in for the twitch drop idc i just wanna see whats up

[waxen sonnet]

No drop today iirc anyway, Purely just the season reveal stream.

[torn shoal]

maybe you should do that in general chat

not in lore channel

[wicked gorge]

I might forget about the stream, I’ve been focus on my school and playing bo6 zombies

[waxen sonnet]

I'll DM you over the premise of the next plot if you'd like, Im gonna watch the whole thing through anyway so its no big deal to me

[wicked gorge]

What time does it start again

[waxen sonnet]

7 Minutes away.

[wicked gorge]

Oh I thought it was at 3

If thats the case then yeah I should be able to watch it, it’s on YouTube?

[torn shoal]

@wicked gorge can you do a tldr of the stream later ?

cant watch it

[waxen sonnet]

Twitch, Ill DM The link

[wicked gorge]

I don’t use twitch so imma have to set everything up, but thx

[wicked gorge]

Explain what tldr means and I may consider it

[torn shoal]

tldr : too long didnt read, just mean a recap

[wicked gorge]

Yeah, I can do that

[torn shoal]

thanks mate

[wicked gorge]

No

Np

[storm axle]

Guys

How would you rate division lore on scale to 1 to 10

[wicked gorge]

Ngl that cinematic is pretty awesome

[wicked gorge]

Main story, I say a 7 or 8. Environmental story telling I say a 9 or 10

[sick lantern]

fwiw the DHS was formed in response to 9/11. and it’s a part of Rhodes’ and Benitez’s backstories, as well as being a defining moment in that sort of “resilient unified New York” archetype which I daresay was kind of an underlying theme in the first game

[wicked gorge]

You know what, I was expecting the “oh it’s New York” thing but thank you for a actual response, i forgot Benitez was a first responder, I didn’t know Rhodes was

[sick lantern]

Rhodes’ wife died in 9/11 iirc

part of why he’s so jaded

[wicked gorge]

I didn’t know about that, thanks webkinz, however you’re fired

[wicked gorge]

@torn shoal No lore updates besides us hunting down Theo, we’re getting an exotic ar, chest piece, and knee pads, they’re still keeping the Greek theme. We’re getting a season modifier called point blank and we’re getting a crossover with STALKER 2

[tepid ibex]

So much exotic shet

[glad spruce]

Strega looks cool and it played cool in the PTS

[wicked gorge]

I think we’re getting less exotics, iirc we get two exotic guns and armor pieces but I might be confusing it with something else

[glad spruce]

I do recall every season only added two exotics at most

[tepid ibex]

I just mean overall. In Div 1 we had like 15 exotic weapons, if that. And one exotic gear piece in each category. In Div 2 they just keep piling them on into every category. Div 1 didn't have enough, but in Div 2 there's an excess imo

[wicked gorge]

32 exotics in total

26 weapons and 6 armor pieces

[tepid ibex]

Lawd, D2 still outweighs it so much

[wicked gorge]

Yeah, but we can subtract the mosquito pistol since it’s exotic talent is weird

[glad spruce]

It'll be a good one when next season launches tomorrow

[tepid ibex]

There's supposed to be an Expansion right, or is that still in the future

[glad spruce]

Yes, Brooklyn DLC. Next year

[wicked gorge]

We got one more season before black diamond?

[glad spruce]

Yes, Y6S2

Y6S3 launches with Brooklyn DLC

[wicked gorge]

Okay me and Jack were discussing it

I figured next season we would find Kelso

[sick lantern]

stalker crossover
like fr or are you trolling

[glad spruce]

For real

[wicked gorge]

I had to get the photo from Jack but I sent you the picture from the livestream

It’s in your dms good sir

[sick lantern]

thx

[wicked gorge]

Yw

[glad spruce]

Okay, so from what I've seen in the trailer and the official article, here's what I understand about the story so far.

Aaron Keener is in custody at the White House by the end of Y6S1, and aims to strike a deal with the Division. But before we can learn what he knows about the Hunters and the Cabal, we have to secure other members of his team, starting with Theo Parnell.

And from the looks of the trailer, we're gonna follow Parnell's trail while he tries to see if he can trust us since we killed him once already. Theo hopes by the time we get to meet him in person, we'll see the "real me" as he said in the trailer

[wicked gorge]

But here’s my issue, keener trust us enough to relieve his weapons and be put into a prison cell for us to put his faith in him, yet Theo sees this and is like “nah cant trust y’all”

[glad spruce]

Ah, heck.

Ill post it again later

But in short, we killed Theo once, and messed up their plans against Black Tusk when we killed Lau. And despite winning Keener over, we still put him in custody at the White House

So as far as Theo is concerned, he can't trust us and we have to prove it to him

[sudden mortar]

It's just me or Theo looks younger than 29 in the WONY animated trailer.

[glad spruce]

Art style shenanigans

[waxen sonnet]

Theo comes back from playing dead to see that the man or woman who killed him is back hunting him, talk about the whole history repeats itself

[glad spruce]

Lol yeah

[waxen sonnet]

Mind you it's strange Keener gives himself up without some sort of rendezvous plan with Kelso and Parnell

You'd think all three would come back to the BOO Together to ensure something exactly like this doesn't happen, One remains aware of a plan but exposed to harm

[glad spruce]

I'm guessing when they reached DC, they decided to split up and go separate ways to prevent being compromised by Black Tusk or the Hunters

[waxen sonnet]

I have to wonder at this point just how many Hunters are left anyway actually

[glad spruce]

Yeah, it's left ambiguous at this stage. Given that the Crossroads novels (at least two and three) takes place months after the current timeline, I'd imagine they still have dozens considering ||Thaddeus Greene||

[waxen sonnet]

True, it seems much unlike the SHD'S wave of activations, Hunters are activated in almost a Trickle rather than a wave

I suspect given Keener's list, we're about to find out, in a sortta sudden climatic hollywood type reveal me thinks

[glad spruce]

Now I wonder how Keener would sound like singing "I've got a little list" given his grudges xD

[glad spruce]

Ok

[shell parrot]

How you beat Vick the D1ck

[tepid ibex]

So what, did he have a doppelgänger like Keener did or something?

[glad spruce]

Yes. Y5S3 comms establishes how Theo managed to fake his death

[gaunt ice]

“i wasn’t in that tank” type beat

and no Graves only worked cuz he’s cool as shit

[keen maple]

Theo knows how to trick ISAC so he probably did the same thing

So that’s ||probably how he “died” on liberty island ||

[tepid ibex]

YUP-YUP

[tepid ibex]

This ISAC guy really needs a software update fr

[keen maple]

Anna is better

Fr

[glad spruce]

If a PMC war criminal is cool, then I should be allowed to consider Keener and his team as cool

[ashen jungle]

A dead body is rather cold, you're right.

[glad spruce]

Ha ha. Clever

[gaunt ice]

never said he was right nor was he ever implied to be right

or have the entire narrative retconned to make him the good guy but what do i know smh

[tepid ibex]

Him and his PMC had good intentions initially. Morally ambiguous similar to the LMB. Shit just didnt go as planned. But them massacring that town was out of pocket.

[gaunt ice]

i'd say that town deserved it based on the context of the story but we're not ready for it so

[gaunt ice]

also the LMB wasn’t “morally ambiguous” they were there to help with the evac of Wall Street initially and just kinda snapped at the JTF’s inability to handle the situation

mercs for hire has no morality

[storm axle]

Do you guys think that there are still some shd agents?

By that question i mean

If there will be the Third wave of agents

And

[ashen jungle]

I'd say a 3rd wave of Agents would probably require about 25 years or so.
Basically what I'm saying is that there probably isn't enough people left alive for it.

[gaunt ice]

Am

[waxen sonnet]

I work on a theory if the third wave existed it would've been activated the minute the second wave started hitting the thick of it In DC and NY.

Especially Keener in NY

[gaunt ice]

hit the what

[ashen jungle]

It's slang for "being very involved in a situation, usually a bad one".

think "in the deep end".

[gaunt ice]

i know that i mean

i read “hit the thick of it” and i suddenly remembered that new ksi song

my brain is cooked

[sudden mortar]

Thank you

[storm axle]

I hope that div 3 will take place on west coast

[tepid ibex]

Evac of wall street? Thought it was to "safeguard" Wall Street and some assets there. When I say they're morally ambiguous, they had good intentions (protecting civilians, restoring order), but bad methods (protecting certain civilians, iron fist). Like with Eden's Gate, the end didn't justify the means.

[gaunt ice]

they were there because they were paid

[sudden mortar]

in a world where economy was already gone, what would they do with the money?

[gaunt ice]

well yea

[torn shoal]

there is no shd command or gov or state tbh, there cant be a 3rd wave

2nd wave was sent to save the city before collapse, in div 2 the entire country is already collapsed

[storm axle]

Btw

Will division have good ending?

I mean in last game

Will they rebuild America or smth

[torn shoal]

nobody know

its still ongoing

[keen maple]

[keen maple]

Na they’ll turn America into a Burger King

[sudden mortar]

Bro imagine we find Theo personally and then we learn he is just a decoy, and he's not there.

[storm axle]

MC better

[keen maple]

Waffle House

[waxen sonnet]

Sorry my guy, Bit of a Common British saying, being "In the thick of it" mean's your stuck in the middle of something real Problematic, Dangerous, Stressful etc

[torn shoal]

very probable tbh

[storm axle]

Never been to

[keen maple]

I just want a Warhound as a pet

Is that so hard to ask for

Like we already have the Seeker Mine :>

[waxen sonnet]

Sir due to OSHA Regulations We have to remind you to please not make pets out of the rolling balls of Military Grade Explosives

[keen maple]

Guys what I don’t like certain 4 or 3 letter organizations

[true fox]

guys,

Have you guys talked about how Theo survived?
how you cheated death
In addition to already being in the vanguard season

[keen maple]

Late to the party

[true fox]

didn't understand correctly?
I'm not

[keen maple]

What I mean is we already talked about that

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, It's up above because we spoke earlier in the day about it is what TBM Means, but basically its Established Theo tricked the ISAC System into producing a false "Rogue Agent Deceased" status notification and false life signs detection.

Basically, he knew we'd trust ISAC To say if he was dead or not, and simply tricked ISAC into the belief he was dead from his Injuries

[true fox]

right, sorry
I think I wasn't clear

I already know this part, what I wanted to know was the physical means for this

if it was really him when he came out of the woodwork when facing the agents in the final moment, if it wasn't someone else in his place, and ANNA did the rest

[waxen sonnet]

Right soooooo, Correct me if Im wrong

During the WONY Manhunt, Was the final battle Theo real, or a Hologram is what you mean?

[true fox]

Yes

a hologram or was it another person in his place, since he was wearing a mask and could disguise someone else in his place, with the same clothes, weapons, a copy of the watch, etc.

and another part we already know, ANNA did the rest.

but everything is fine,

I just wanted to know if you thought of the physical means to do this, but anyway... thank you

There's one more thing I want to know, whether you've seen this before or not

one moment

[waxen sonnet]

I think it was the real human Theo, Let me tag my Superior brain buddy that is @glad spruce

But I think It was Real Theo, who was using it first as a test to see if they system could trick agents, before Keener then went on to use it

[true fox]

If you think about Keener in that moment, since he was alone...
It could actually make a lot of sense.

and the.. "how" besides ANNA, physically speaking, there is still an air of mystery

[true fox]

oh yes, I was going to tag him too

I'm looking for something here

[waxen sonnet]

What you looking for?

[true fox]

a calendar information about the books of Thomas Parrott

[waxen sonnet]

Information about what about his books sorry?

I dont quite get what you mean by Calendar

[true fox]

I must be late on this, but I think you've already seen it, I found it on Reddit

Recruited

Late September 2016

Compromised

6 months after Recruited - March 2017 (??)

Hunted
no information

[keen maple]

Can we kill the real Theo pls, his manhunt fight during WONY was so annoying

[torn shoal]

you're just jealous cause he pulls

[true fox]

so you break us all 😅

there's all the history you need to know

https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Theo_Parnell

NGN
https://youtu.be/1OiVEMiTFN4?si=YwbCVapHTp82viWB

[keen maple]

I’m jealous that I couldn’t kill Natayla Sokolova

I want it to happen fr

[shell parrot]

I want to head shot her so bad

[keen maple]

Let me rephrase that for you

:>

[glad spruce]

Well, I took a nap. Time for me to start the game and do the comms

[torn shoal]

how dare you rest and not work for us

😡

[glad spruce]

Welp, looks like my earlier theory was correct.

||Keener, Parnell, and Kelso had to split up when they arrived to DC thanks to a Black Tusk "welcoming party". They agreed to an RV, but since Keener is on house arrest, he'll need us as the agents to bring his team back together||

[keen maple]

||Who put Keener on mf House Arrest 😭, Cal? ||

[sour perch]

||Manny did.||

[glad spruce]

||Manny. After we finished the finale of Y6S1, he agreed to let Keener into the White House with a few conditions. In a cell, no weapons or tech, and stay there until Kelso is recovered and have her vet him||

[keen maple]

||I was thinking Nat would do it ||

[sour perch]

||If only Manny gave Keener his weapons and tech back, I do not want to face Theo with the power he has.||

[glad spruce]

So, first comm for Shades of Red. Titled Fractal

||Theo Parnell gets to talk with Trig to have a conversation. Parnell was in New York, helping Conley and saving civilians. When asked by Trig about his favorite shape, Parnell figures out its a personality test, so he answers by saying Fractal.||

||Theo explains his answer that he likes the infinite repetition, how the structure builds itself until it makes the shapes look interesting and beautiful. The comm ends with Trig asking what he can do to help||

[wicked gorge]

Now we wait for next week to discuss the second comn

[glad spruce]

Yeah, say what you will about Manhunt scouts. But we no longer need to wait a month for new comms

[waxen sonnet]

Its super easy to pick up the comms, and progress, but at the same time it leaves me wondering wth they added those other two thingy's to the season for

[glad spruce]

The briefing and debriefing? Or are you talking about priority objectives/seasonal journey?

[waxen sonnet]

The latter

[glad spruce]

A new season start means a new batch of Descent comms. This week, Descent comm 73, titled Brooklyn.

||Bridgette "Viper" Douglas makes a report to Natalya Sokolova about the decimation of Dolores Jones BTSU in New York after the events at Coney Island. She talks about Vivian Conley, as Viper talks how Conley was gonna be a problem ever since she defected to the Cleaners.||

||Viper is aware that Black Tusk are more focused on DC, but she thinks that Keener and his Rogues are a serious threat. Therefore, she requested Sokolova to put a team together in Brooklyn to monitor the situation||

||But since we already know that Viper is working with Keener, that request was a pre-text||

[waxen sonnet]

Sounds like a set up for a Textbook Ambush that.

[glad spruce]

||Probably. But I think its more of a pretext for Douglas to keep watch on Keener and see how things are in Brooklyn.||

From the looks of things, this season's Descent comms seem to set up the Brooklyn DLC

Especially when last Season's involved story beats from Heartland

[waxen sonnet]

I suspect the same since last Season, given the return mentioning character's who remain MIA at this time from DC. As you and I have already discussed in DM's.

[glad spruce]

You're gonna have to remind me who's the MIA character

[waxen sonnet]

That'll be Harlan and Tchernenko

[glad spruce]

Ah, yeah

[storm axle]

Btw

Is finding crashed drones worth anything?

[sick lantern]

they're worldbuilding like most collectibles

[storm axle]

Ok

But one thing doesn't make any sense to me

People inside Dark Zone (except SHD) are trapped there

BC every entrance is JTF controled

Or there more entrances

[sick lantern]

you can literally go in uncontrolled entrances in the game

[ornate gull]

I been wondering
If Ghost Recon and Division share same universe. Would Ghost Recon enough to push back BT?

[storm axle]

I need ASAP tips for scarecrow boss

[glad spruce]

I suggest asking #td1-general

[storm axle]

Nevermind

That was easy

One try

Guys

What song would you compare to The Division

(By that I mean what song have lyrics that match lore and gameplay)

For me

[glad spruce]

No idea, tbh

[storm axle]

It's "loosing my religion" or "man who sold the world"

[sick lantern]

Fairytale of New York by The Pogues

[glad spruce]

Invisible by Duran Duran

[sick lantern]

Native New Yorker by Odyssey

what other ones are there uhhh

Empire State of Mind by Jay-Z and Alicia Keys

[storm axle]

solid snake moment

[glad spruce]

Venom Snake

[storm axle]

Theme from New York, New York by Frank Sinatra?

Btw

The fffire by some dude is matching very well

This fire is under control

Burn this city, burn this city

[sick lantern]

ah, that's good. if the fire was out of control we'd be in trouble

[ornate gull]

ISAC: Warning, you're now leaving the safe area

[near totem]

How did Keener and his group find not rusted and working cars?

Was one of the rogues a car dealer before green poison?

[wicked gorge]

Nope but 7 months wont damage or rust a car unless a environmental factor gets put into it

[near totem]

So if those vechicles were sitting in garages and they didnt get flooded or something they would be mostly fine?

[ornate gull]

Consider society collapse, oil become meanless

[glad spruce]

Yes. And as long as they have enough fuel, they can be used to drive around.

There's two factions that use trucks to deliver supplies across the southwest of US

[near totem]

Freighties and Roamers

[ornate gull]

Along with overgrowth nature might block some road, faction roadblock, abandoned traffic,.... they might found car that still good conditions

They just need to fix it a bit and go drain any gasoline in abandoned vehicle or any fuel depot if there still any left

[near totem]

So just a little bit of resources and time and you have a working car

Old diesels would be the best

[ornate gull]

As much i like to drive a vehicle around post apocalypse city, i surely only use them for long distance travel

Don't want to be in bucket like LMB APC, Riker SWAT Van, Cleaner Firetruck

[near totem]

You can just steal the APCs wheels and they cant do anything

[ornate gull]

If only that APC not guarded by 2 Auto Turret

[near totem]

Steal them too

[ornate gull]

Talk about Auto Turret

What the purpose of disable Auto Turret at mid tunnel b4 you fried the LMB server?

Since mission objective not mentioned to disable it

[sick lantern]

it's facing out to the other direction of the tunnel

maybe there's a loot box over there idk it's been a while

[ornate gull]

As far i know, you can't reach that tunnel road by any mean

I assumed that where JTF reinforcement would come

[sick lantern]

the direction of the tunnel leads to brooklyn or queens or wherever so

[keen maple]

Cleaner Garbage Trucks>>>

[tepid ibex]

ofc "the burned man" prefers the cleaner garbage trucks.

[keen maple]

The Cleaners are right

[storm axle]

Cleaners are shit

It was said by someone in game that burning corpses spread virus

[ashen jungle]

That person is not very smart.

Burning bodies to avoid the spread of plague has been a standard thing that humans have been doing since we figured out fire.

[gaunt ice]

if a virus can survive extreme heat then we have bigger problems than the black tusk

[frail pond]

Yes, but not for that reason. The real reason is somehow, a bunch of janitors and garbage dudes and dudettes with no medical knowledge whatsoever decided to go:
"you know what, we need to eradicate this Green Poison"
"Great idea! How?"
"We'll kill everyone who so much as has a runny nose or a peanut allergy and burn everything within a square mile of them"

Anyway, what's the True Son's plan when taking over infrastructure? Waltz in, kill half the people who know how to run the place then Wallace and Gromit their way through a steel forge complex and nuclear power plant?

[storm axle]

Germans be like

[storm axle]

Blah blah blah

This is game

And they burn everyone

Not only infected

[gaunt ice]

thats why they’re the bad guys duh

good idea bad execution,even worse practice

[civic drum]

Is any 1 in here?

[ashen jungle]

@civic drum Just post your question about the lore and someone will respond.
If you're looking to LFG, you're looking for further down the list.

@storm axle What you said has nothing to do with that reply.

[civic drum]

On I just wanted to ask a question

Dose any 1 know if the overlord is on the loot pool?

[ashen jungle]

This channel is specifically just for questions about the lore, if you want to ask general questions, your best bet is #ask-td2-community

[civic drum]

Ok thanks

👍

[torn shoal]

thats call "safety measure"

when you get a bunch of dead bodies and some are infected, you burn everything

[storm axle]

Yea

Everyone can be infected

[torn shoal]

and burned bodies dont infect anyone

[storm axle]

So we kill everyone and no one is infexted

[torn shoal]

yeah thats the cleaner motto

[storm axle]

Actually

They do

[torn shoal]

nope

thats how we used to combat old viruses

[storm axle]

This is game

[torn shoal]

like very deadly diseases

[storm axle]

This virus could turn everyone into obama

Someone once said in game that burned bodies spread virus by smoke or ash

[torn shoal]

no ?

green virus is very well known

[storm axle]

Smth like that

[torn shoal]

who said that ?

unless they are an ingame biologist their opinion is just an opinion and doesnt mean anything

[storm axle]

Idk

I will chęć

Check I mean

[gaunt ice]

ima call it

unsupervised child with unlimited internet access

[waxen sonnet]

What did I just come back to and why is Chairs seemingly the most sane one right now

[keen maple]

Clearly you never passed Biology

[keen maple]

Medik said burning bodies helps spread a virus

So we had to prove him wrong with the fact it helps slow the spread

[waxen sonnet]

Oh, Yep, that sounds like this channel being normal.

[keen maple]

I mean I took a course of Biology on my own prior to me actually going to college (mostly one of those free ones that a lot of out of state colleges have like Arizona for example)

And I can tell you that burning both a dead body and a dollar bill (if that dollar bill is the major transfer host) then you need to burn it

Problem is, Amherst modified smallpox with other viruses so a new cure would have to be developed but he modified it to spread while it’s incubation process is still at a low rate

[waxen sonnet]

By the time you burn the body, it's already silently sitting in many new Hosts.

[keen maple]

So by the time that incubation process is done at least 500 people are probably infected (numbers vary if the Main Host touched anyone, any food/toys, objects like stairway guardrails and anything else possible that can contain a trace of the virus

Of course the only thing it can survive on for a good amount of time is living things and dollar bills/bank notes

[waxen sonnet]

Or Professionally maintained Samples In Cold storage or the likes.

[keen maple]

Well it’s not like the us government to keep the virus samples kept in there cough Covid cough Dark Winter cough

[glad spruce]

... Good thing I'll mostly keep myself busy collecting the comms over the course of the season

[ember vector]

In the mission Broadway Emporium, even Jessica Kandel tells the player extreme temperatures kill it.

[ashen jungle]

It's not really a thing you need a Division game to tell you. "Fire kills living things" is kind of a staple of fire.

[storm axle]

Btw

[torn shoal]

does descent still gives comes now ?

the project for descent isnt the same now

[waxen sonnet]

I mean we also get to flamethrower sprinklers the DCD Headquarters in our fight against the Outcasts too for the same purpose

[storm axle]

How did gordon got his hands on some of the worst viruses

[torn shoal]

he is a virologist

[storm axle]

Yea

[ashen jungle]

@storm axle You really need to play div1.

[storm axle]

Im playing

[torn shoal]

like for real, play the game

[storm axle]

Im playing

[torn shoal]

stop asking questions that the game answer

[storm axle]

I finished police academy yesterday

[torn shoal]

then finish the game

[ashen jungle]

Asking questions is 100% fine, but it's important to take in the information you're getting and put it together.

[waxen sonnet]

@glad spruce Did you see by the way the new named Carbine 7 named "The Drill" has a Quote from Agent Brenda Well's from one of Thomas's Novels

[glad spruce]

Yeah, I noticed that in the PTS. I do like the flavor text

[waxen sonnet]

Great choice of quoute for Agent Wells, does well in some small way to sum up her whole character

[glad spruce]

I need to reread the novels again now that I have them on Kindle.

But I did remember liking Agent Brenda Wells a lot

[storm axle]

I have no idea what will be answered in game

I will try to rush it

To complete game faster

[waxen sonnet]

Agent Colin was my favourite, Did you manage to get Hunted yet?

[storm axle]

But now i need level for another mission

[glad spruce]

Yeah, I read the entire trilogy a while back. I have them on Kindle as well

[ashen jungle]

@storm axle Don't worry about Lyfe, they're just being grumpy.
Answering questions is the whole point of this Server.
we only suggest you play div1 for yourself to make sure you have the full context. There's a lot that's lost in translation.

[waxen sonnet]

Ah I was going to say, I got my copy of Hunted on Kindle but had a real pain getting the actual Paperback issue.

Still the most god damn terrifying Portrayal of a Hunter in the franchise imo.

[ashen jungle]

The fact that amazon called a book reading service after the term for fire-starters is.....odd.

[waxen sonnet]

(Isn't it Kindling?)

[ashen jungle]

(shh, it's funnier if you ignore that)

ah there, see. I was right. Lab126 asked them to name the product, and they suggested "kindle", meaning to light a fire.[9] They felt this was an apt metaphor for reading and intellectual excitement.

[waxen sonnet]

By the way I managed to spare some cash to pick up the season pass, You're right, those "Redeemed" Outfits this season are really quite good, and surprisingly Lore freindly in terms of accuracy to the base outfit style

[torn shoal]

we told u what would be answered tho xd

[glad spruce]

I know, right? I'm a fan of the Redeemed True Sons shirt 😄

[wicked gorge]

What’s the best looking one so far @waxen sonnet

[shell parrot]

CAN ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO BEAT THAT DRONE IN KEENER MANHUNT PLEASE

[sour perch]

Which one?

[waxen sonnet]

Redeemed True sons outfit I'd say for this season

[wicked gorge]

If your talking about the marauder, I like to stay in the boat and shoot its rotors out and hid next to the cabin when it tries to launch missiles

[wicked gorge]

Imma have to check it out when I log back on

[near totem]

How would the story change if the osprey in div 1 didnt blow up?

[glad spruce]

We would've taken back Manhattan in no time

[wicked gorge]

When we landed in Camp Hudson, all the agents on bored were infected with green poison except for us and Lau

[torn shoal]

there are several, which one you talking about ?

if its marauder, just take cover and shoot, thats it

if you got emp thats better tho

aim the weakpoints to disable it for a short window

[waxen sonnet]

New Chain of Command, Faye lau is an active field agent and uninjured, Way more Agents in the second wave make it into Manhattan.

Some pretty big potential changes if that would've been the case

[near totem]

When was it said that they were infected?

[glad spruce]

It's phoenix. He's trolling you

[near totem]

I think im gullible

A bit too much

[wicked gorge]

Nah im serious (Hawkster hush)

[near totem]

So technically we would secure manhattan faster and loose less resourcess and there would be a bigger chance that keener couldnt take back nyc

[waxen sonnet]

Nah my Man Pheonix is Just sarcastic and lots of people miss his sarcasm tbh

[waxen sonnet]

100%, If we had say, 20 more agents on that Heli capable of combat prowess like our Agent, it'd have been far faster to get things under control.

[near totem]

Cant forget the div commander. With all of those people we would take back manhattan in a week

[waxen sonnet]

Louis Chang, Northeast Coast's Senior Division Commander.

[near totem]

Would be interesting if we could know more about him in the DLC

[waxen sonnet]

Unfortunatley, I shouldnt think so, outside of say, collectibles.

[near totem]

Still better than nothing

[glad spruce]

Yeah, cosnidering what they're currently building up for the Brooklyn DLC, I doubt we'll get anything about him outside of say collectibles

[near totem]

I hope this time we could use something else than a heli to get to Brooklyn

[waxen sonnet]

Nah come on It'll be Iconic, Our other agent finally taking that same helicopter flight Opening from DIV1!

[wicked gorge]

Yes, however I would believe that since the NY division command is still active during the campaign, Keener would most definitely convince Bliss to launch an attack on the post office to weaken the Jtf and division

[near totem]

But they have to use an Osprey

[glad spruce]

The first Descent comm this season has Viper reporting to Natalya Sokolova about the state of Dolores Jones' BTSU in New York afte the events of Conley Island and requesting to have her and a team sent to Brooklyn to keep an eye on Keener and his rogues

[waxen sonnet]

They're still out there man, They operate the DZ Drops and Supply drops in DIV2

[near totem]

What if we would be put there just like in the start of dying light? Jump out of a heli with airdrops