division-universe

[ashen jungle]

I'd like to keep spoilers light until at least a day or two has passed, give people a chance to play it.

[patent narwhal]

personally I like it as its a change of pace from kill bad guy > kill bad(er) guy

[scarlet crater]

like i do like how it is more of like rogues are the true division that is dope asl

[lone salmon]

Lots of murky allegiances

[scarlet crater]

but it’s just the fact that they can’t keep people dead

[lone salmon]

I mean, it happened with Hornet

So i guess we should just expect it by now lmao

NGN is gonna go all "I told you so"

[scarlet crater]

true lol just feels forced lmao

[scarlet crater]

lmao yeab

[ashen jungle]

The Rogues are red designs with skull icons. There is 0 chance of them ever being the "good guys".

[scarlet crater]

but that’s what we’ve been lead to believe until now. the ending changes that narrative

[vagrant orbit]

maybe that's simply psychological warfare.

[ashen jungle]

They didn't design the icons, so no.

[scarlet crater]

i don’t think they are good or bad

[ashen jungle]

Every person in that final cutscene is going to die and at this stage I'm incredibly annoyed that includes the person on the far right of the camera.

[scarlet crater]

fair def feels forced

[vagrant orbit]

i think some of them are good, some of them are bad, some of them juggle between both and are in a grey area just trying to do what they think is right.

[scarlet crater]

yeah prob

the final mission was cool asl though ngl

[vagrant orbit]

i just wish lore elements affected gameplay more tbh.

[ashen jungle]

The opening cutscene to WONY showed rogues slitting innocent peoples throats and launching a chemical weapons attack against them, and then another one later one, tricking them with an aid package first.
They are not "good and bad". That is evil.

[scarlet crater]

its more like there are rogues that are bad but then there are rogues that are bad but are putting that away to defeat the bigger enemies

[scarlet crater]

yeah and maybe made sense lol

[vagrant orbit]

like keener saying that rogues aren't targeting division... okay then why do they come after us as an encounter in missions (that could be excused with them having their own reasons being there and defending themselves against us, attacking us on sight knowing what happens if we don't) but what i can't find a lore reason behind is them coming after us sometimes after capturing a control point.

[cold bramble]

WHAT THE FUCK. JUST SEEN THE CUTSCENE LMAOOO

[ashen jungle]

Keener tried to launch a mass chemical attack against the entirety of Manhattan and he's "not going after the division"?

[vagrant orbit]

yeah, the chemical missile thing just seems to have been swept under the rug?

[ashen jungle]

If I set fire to a building full of people, I was totally just trying to hurt the building and not them.

Needless to say I disagree with the direction the story is going.

[vast grove]

rogues are not good or bad (stop living in fairy tale). They are people. You can be marked as rogue for aborting mission with zero chance of success just to save your life or breaking window instead of using door. That doesnt make you good or bad. Only thing that color of your watches is saying about you is if you are willing to blindly obey computer or not. (and to be honest I would be rogue multiple times during the story -> I would try to listen to Parnel and Faye to understand what is really happening because eliminate target icon is not good enough reason for me to kill somebody)

[vagrant orbit]

on another note, i think division agents are the good guys but that the division program itself is compromised.

[glad spruce]

Tbh, since Season 10, I felt like there was no way we could take on Nat/McManus on our own.

If going rogue is the only way to put them down for good, I'm more than willing to take the action. I feel like since Season 9, they've been pushing the notion that being Rogue doesn't automatically mean bad

[vagrant orbit]

the division was made by the united states government for the united states government, so naturally if you do something that doesn't align with an agenda with corrupt officials, becoming rogue is a matter of time.

[glad spruce]

And if save what remains means aligning with corrupt officials and elites for their agendas, then saving what remains don't really matter, does it?

[vagrant orbit]

division agents want to help the people but the division program was to help the government.

they know this, hence the black tusk coming in

they can't fully control the division

[glad spruce]

Exactly

[sudden mortar]

It's kinda hard to control a group that only answers to the president and they outrank all others military and civil organizations like the JTF.

[cold bramble]

So what’s gonna happen now then? I’m guessing they will spend the time now formulating a plan?

[vagrant orbit]

anyway, as much as i like to yap about all of it as if ubi thought about every angle when writing, imma go sleep.

[glad spruce]

Good night, melojei.

[glad spruce]

Pretty much

[cold bramble]

It honestly does get me theorising though

It’s definitely going to see the division with their backs against the walls and trusting no one

[strange rock]

By the writers logic || the Recruiter is also alive || or we use a different rule

[glad spruce]

Very funny

[cold bramble]

What’s your guys thoughts and theories?

[glad spruce]

Well, my mind was blown. And honestly, I think for the first time in a while that I'm seriously intrigued how the story is gonna go

[lone salmon]

Pretty sure he's dead for realsies

"You should have let us recruit you. This one is for Brian" - the mission's hunter

[wintry ginkgo]

my exact response, also I forgot how hectic these manhunt finales get

[surreal umbra]

I mean we watched him get cratered

[waxen sonnet]

So you know what happens now?

I read the spoiler last week and was like, blown away how wrong we were by the ending lmao

[glad spruce]

Yeah, I guess our predictions went wrong lol

And in a way, I'm okay with taht

[waxen sonnet]

So wrong

[cold bramble]

Lmao there’s a fucking queue to get into the game. First time I ever seen that

[sudden mortar]

I was already expecting that ||Keener and maybe Theo were still alive, because I guess the "when you try to kill someone, make sure they are dead" logic doesn't happen in most games or movies. But I thought that Vivian could be alive too, Seeing her relationship with ANNA and the Ortiz robotics in the descent comms.Theo is the Nerd Genius, so would be kinda stupid letting him die. But Dragov and Kajika not so much, Kajika was just a guy seeking revenge on JTF and Dragov only worked with Keener because he threatened his "Family" of Rikers.||

[ocean shoal]

🧎‍♀️

[vale oak]

is there a boss battle

(gonna hop on to do final stage)

[ocean shoal]

at the end no, a little bit before it yes

[vale oak]

alr ty

[ocean shoal]

and there’s 3

i’m 24/26 for the manhunt collectables 😭

[wicked gorge]

||as much as I’m happy to see keener and Parnell alive, im still pissed they reckon his death||

[wicked gorge]

||you remember Conley blew herself up right?||

[wicked gorge]

What were the fake spoilers

[waxen sonnet]

The spoiler said that ||Lau|| Was still alive but I still am not seeing any proof?

[sudden mortar]

Who knows, maybe it was a paid actress lol

[waxen sonnet]

They werent fake, I just thought it was so bat **** crazy it couldnt be real until I started realising the spoilers were matching what was happening

[sudden mortar]

Maybe Keener did the same thing that Nat did to us at the stovepipe manhunt, make the enemy think they know what their enemy is planning, know what I mean?
Since BT got eyes on ISAC and they know exactly what we're about to do or where to go.

[waxen sonnet]

I dunno, everyone still implies by the way they're talking about --- they're still alive

[wicked gorge]

Oh I thought you said they were fake, nvm

[glad spruce]

Got the latest Descent comm.

[wicked gorge]

||if they showed lau in that van, I think i would lose my shit||

[glad spruce]

||Nothing mindblowing. Basically, it involves Ortiz Robotics canceling the project that Vivian Conley was working on during her time on the company. Viv is not happy, obv||

[waxen sonnet]

Absolutley same, I would've loved that characters return

[wicked gorge]

||im talking in the bad way, don’t get me wrong im happy they brought keener and Parnell back, but im sick of reckoning deaths||

[ocean shoal]

||didn’t they say lau was cremated||

[glad spruce]

Hold up. I just noticed something. After I replayed the final Manhunt mission for the second time, I only got up to 25/26 of this season's comms.

Something tells me the next comm is a puzzle or its bugged

[sudden mortar]

Agreed, first Hornet died, then came back because of a defibrillator, then Keener faking his death manipulating ISAC. If ||Lau|| comes back after her corpse supposedly being cremated, I would be kinda pissed.

[wicked gorge]

Same for me, I think it’s a glitch

[wicked gorge]

||now if they had her jar with her ashes in that, that would be a funny way of saying she’s here||

[glad spruce]

I'm gonna presume the last comm is gonna be Kelso note 5

[ocean shoal]

where’d you find one of the last 2

[wicked gorge]

Replay the manhunt and bosses will drop them

Run it on normal to get them out of the way

[ocean shoal]

manhunt mission right?

[glad spruce]

Yes

[wicked gorge]

Yeah took me 10ish minutes to finish it up

[ocean shoal]

alright i’ll go do that

i played it on normal the first time bc being sandwiched by bosses followed by a hunter is nasty work

[glad spruce]

If there's a puzzle, let me know. Cuz I do really wanna get the last comm

[wicked gorge]

I can imagine manny throwing his desk across the room rn

[ocean shoal]

he’ll be doing more than that when we leave too

[glad spruce]

Might be speculation, but I'm thinking the next two Seasons is about trying to convince the settlements to work with Keener while also setting up the upcoming DLC

[wicked gorge]

I wanna meet him in person, i got a bone after he’s shocked me several times

Besides wishing the manhunt mission was longer, I’d say it was a good manhunt

[copper pollen]

I strongyl believe we're gonna be going rogue ourselves canonically, I think the division has lost its way and I agree with Keener at this point, maybe Div 3 is to bring down the hunters/SHD?

[cold bramble]

What’s keeners whole agenda? When people say keener is right what is it that he says or does that people agree with?

[sudden mortar]

Or Faye comes in with Kelso and:
Kelso: but you're dead, we cremated your body.
Faye: yeah, that was a paid actress.

[copper pollen]

He believes (From what I interpret) that the JTF and SHD only serve their interests. With little regard to whom is it it if they can. Almost using us agents as pawns in a grand game of chess.

[gaunt ice]

psychopathic rogue agent/terrorist who tried to kill everyone in Manhattan with a biological virus

because he threw a temper tantrum when shit doesn’t go the way he wants it

like a “wanting revenge” character would be Kajika since he was abandoned AND apparently failed to save a buncha people because of it

[cold bramble]

Is the whole dz shit from div 1 related? When the jtf abandoned him and some other agents?

[copper pollen]

Yeah the story is one fluid so what happened in Div 1 is still canonical to this day

[cold bramble]

Ahh okay

[ocean shoal]

anna be my friend

[waxen sonnet]

I think the execution needed longer to pull off such a twist without it feeling silly or bad.

[sudden mortar]

At least the technology in the division universe isn't so advanced to pull off a Lazarus project from Mass Effect 2 or the Relic from Cyberpunk 2077 to bring characters back from the dead.

[frozen linden]

It's...somewhat believable? Considering in-game we somehow 'captured' Schaffer, even if in game we put at least 500+ rounds into him.

The only real iffy part is how ||Keener and Theo|| managed to somehow fake a physical check of their vitals.

[tight jacinth]

And Lau is alive too?

[sudden mortar]

||just put some fake blood on you and make ISAC says: vital signs zero||

[tight jacinth]

Bc she wasn’t there?

[frozen linden]

Who knows if Lau's dead at this point. We won't know till next manhunt

[tight jacinth]

Ok

[frozen linden]

||Considering our agent checked Keener for a pulse, I'm wondering how exactly that man pulled it off||

[waxen sonnet]

Agreed very much so.

[stray crystal]

I wanna chat about so much, but honestly - I'll just enjoy the emotions of completing that manhunt mission, that last fight was wild and the lore setup was crazy, I've been screeming "WHAT" the whole mission haha.

Only question I have, I'm at 23/26 comms for Vanguard, anyone else?

[frozen linden]

Redo the manhunt for two more comms, noone's worked out how to get the 26th comm yet.

[slate grove]

manhunt campaign or just the mission?

[frozen linden]

Just the mission

[wicked gorge]

You know, the simulation theory is starting to seem legit now

[waxen sonnet]

Please no, I hate that theory

I'd genuinley be so annoyed if that were the case

[ocean shoal]

that vivian is alive ?

[clear heron]

I think she and Dragov kicked the bucket, weird that they omitted Kajika tho

[frozen linden]

I always understood it as Kajika was just a nutcase they grabbed along the way

[sudden mortar]

It's funny how we have this division universe channel and everybody is discussing the plot and the manhunt in the general chat right now

[ocean shoal]

:(

[clear heron]

BUT GODDAMN I WANNA TEAM UP WITH THE ROGUE SECTOR, TIME TO DIRTY OUR GOODY TWO SHOES IMAGE LMAO

[ocean shoal]

i liked her

[clear heron]

But ngl I always felt it out of character for Keener to leave Parnell to die- didn't even bought that bullshit of him dying glad to be vindicated lmao

[frozen linden]

Faye is absolutely dead though right? They said they cremated her body during the manhunt mission.

[clear heron]

possibly, but stranger things have happened lmao

[frozen linden]

Well considering Keener somehow lived Liberty Island then yeah

[ocean shoal]

something about never confirming the identity or whatever

[frozen linden]

Turns out the Keener we fought on liberty island was a really commited method actor

[clear heron]

but damn, I'm more hyped for the Brooklyn DLC because of this- maybe this time they'll let us switch side- go rogue full time

[hybrid oasis]

Icl I feel that during parnell's manhunt mission back in WLONY when keener says "not this time theo" causing theo to panic over the open channel was just one big distraction since both theo and keener knew the division could hear them communicating on that channel

[sudden mortar]

In the Faye Lau manhunt, she said that she will bury us just like "she buried Keener". At this point, I guess the only way to confirm if a character died is if him/her got a shot in the head.

[clear heron]

I know right?! like damn prick already tried to trick us with that panic monologue the first time he tried to contact us lmao

[restive phoenix]

Not to mention during that mission it was shown that they could mess with ISAC’s systems and show false kill confirms

[ocean shoal]

we’re gonna be considered rogue in brooklyn working with keener

[hybrid oasis]

yeah looking back on it parnell was trying to trick us the whole time by manipulating ISAC and trying to play both sides

[clear heron]

Hell yeah, time to kick Nat and her cohorts- I just feel bad for Manny tho, our honorary Division buddy

[ocean shoal]

showed us isac is mid

[sudden mortar]

Our "JTF" buddy

[ocean shoal]

true

[clear heron]

like damn Manny join me jump the fence, like goddamn

[restive phoenix]

Oh absolutely they guy basically has us and whatever scraps of the JTF are left to hold DC he must be having a shit day guy’s just trying to do what’s right

[clear heron]

Guy wasn't even supposed to be our contact had his superiors lived- got chucked into a role nobody would envy, friends started dying, and now Kelso and possibly our character switching sides- gonna take toll on him

[ocean shoal]

respectfully we should go with them

[vale oak]

kinda annoyed that we didnt get manny's reaction out of the event

like pluh...

[restive phoenix]

I still don’t get it if he isn’t targeting the division what’s the point in taking out City Hall and the Castle outpost

[ocean shoal]

probably sitting in a dark room

[clear heron]

I think our agent disabled the comms before he touched the SHD chest

[restive phoenix]

The last comm is just him having a panic attack

[vale oak]

castle was true sons

city hall idk tho

[hybrid oasis]

he means the NY castle

[vale oak]

o

[restive phoenix]

The castle outpost in New York I mean I don’t remember the name it was a side mission

[frail pond]

So, what the fuck is that manhunt?

[clear heron]

probably some hunters mixed on with the group- collateral damage be damned

[vale oak]

castle clinton

[ocean shoal]

also i always felt kelso had that rogue thing going on 😭

[restive phoenix]

That’s a fucking lot of collateral

[vale oak]

atleast we didnt fight her at the end 😭😭😭

maybe we can see her again during the brooklyn dlc :3

[hybrid oasis]

i think he wanted the division to take him out so he could be taken out of the picture and work behind the scenes

[vale oak]

genuinely hyped for the dlc now..

[clear heron]

"Kill a thousand to save millions" something something

[vale oak]

but i wonder what the next 2-3 seaons are gonna be about

[restive phoenix]

Makes sense I guess still don’t feel thrilled to have to potentially work with someone willing to go to those lengths

[sudden mortar]

Just like metroman from megamind

[ocean shoal]

so the dude from the last manhunt and viper are confirmed hunters , who else are confirmed hunters

[clear heron]

Johnson and Viper yeah

[restive phoenix]

At this point what’s even left for us to do who the hell can we trust, ironically I think Rhodes is the most trustworthy guy we have left given how damned skeptical he is

[frail pond]

There's Manny

[vale oak]

thats tru

[restive phoenix]

So we got Rhodes Manny and I’d probably say Benitez

[ocean shoal]

those are the only named ones we know so far?

[clear heron]

yeah I think so

[ocean shoal]

i was also thinking of the other guy but he was still in training i think

[vale oak]

he was ya

[clear heron]

So confirmed alive is Keener and Parnell- I'm not sure if that dialogue about Cassandra confirms Lau also faked his death

[vale oak]

if ur talking abt the dude we killed at the end of lewis manhunt

[restive phoenix]

Didn’t Lau get cremated?!

[vale oak]

i think she was talking abt kelso

kelso did kinda inherit cassandra after she got the watch

[clear heron]

nah he wasn't a Hunter YET

[clear heron]

would be nice if Lau also lived- but I get it that Lau has to die

[ocean shoal]

yeah

dude got smoked 😭

[clear heron]

yeah whole kit and caboodle

[vale oak]

ig the next 2 seasons are gonna be more about the division splitting at the seams esp with keener alive now lma

[clear heron]

I've always wanted to rock those all-black rogue attire

[ocean shoal]

fr

[vale oak]

true asf

i wanna use a one strap backpack...

boring and uncool as hell two strap....

[clear heron]

then that red ring on your SHD brick? Perfect

[ocean shoal]

i like jupiter and vipers outfits

[clear heron]

If only Massive allowed us to change the color of the cosmetics I could've rocked an all black Agent attire by now

[ocean shoal]

🤝

[lavish galleon]

you see, me personally, i would never want to be a rogue considering all the exotics that the division agents be having

[ocean shoal]

ok but anna

[clear heron]

who said that stuff was exclusive to non-rogue agents tho, judging by how they got even better gear than us, they must got even better exotics lmao

[ocean shoal]

red watches > orange watches

[clear heron]

all-black attire > whatever stuff non-rogue agents seem to pick up on discount stores

[lavish galleon]

until they show something better than the scorpio then

or elmo’s

[lavish galleon]

Honestly, the other factions have better fits than agents

[tight jacinth]

good story line guys

makes sense

everything

[lavish galleon]

Okay real talk, why did our agent like, touch the crate that knocked out kelso

[tight jacinth]

YES

[clear heron]

"plot" lmao

[tight jacinth]

I mean... everything, everything in this manhunt

was fcking dumb ass plot

[lavish galleon]

shoutout to that agent’s pistol. Been there since the start of the game

[tight jacinth]

i dont understand anything they did just there

[clear heron]

but seriously, our agent even turned off their comms so Manny can't react on that shit lmao

[tight jacinth]

We are holograms too btw... cant even die lol ez

whole wony was bait

[lavish galleon]

keener had a reviver hive unfortunately

[tight jacinth]

i have to calm down i already spammed the community dc

that was the most disappointing thing ever

[clear heron]

I think Massive drove themselves into a corner when they decided to kill Keener on WoNY

[ocean shoal]

that too

[tight jacinth]

yea obviously and I know that they thought "oh we killed everyone now we have no fodder to play with" okay... but then you cant build the story up like that

[clear heron]

so they had to retract and pull a "Somehow Palpatine returned" move

[tight jacinth]

nothing made sense today

[lavish galleon]

its funny too because some people probably killed him in a way that would just like, absolutely obliterate someone, i.e technician rpg

[clear heron]

I mean yeah story-wise it was kind of a cheap copout but for some reason it made me excited for what Y6 and Brooklyn DLC will bring

[tight jacinth]

black tusk sending 100 soldiers one hunter who dropps a message when he kills us saying like "why didnt you join us"... last message from keener saying "invitation"... BRO, SORRY GUYS BUT GAME DIDNT LET ME DECIDE

[sudden mortar]

Welcome to the division 2

[tight jacinth]

black tusk going for us and not cassandra

[ocean shoal]

if i was able to choose i would’ve been joined

[clear heron]

the "canon" way Keener "died" on WoNY must be shot with a pellet gun or something

[lavish galleon]

the agent’s pistol

[tight jacinth]

hehehe we were just holograms in wony we are so cool ;)

gooood story

[lavish galleon]

that should just be an exotic at this point with how much i see our agent using that starting gun

[tight jacinth]

manny new recruiter next season

[clear heron]

"THAT GUN"

[clear heron]

Manny was the ISAC masquerading as a human all along

[tight jacinth]

or it will be the story i wrote 30 mins ago:

Next season: Division 1 Agent comes to rescue!

After seeing a Cutscene where Manny and the sheriff are crying because they are the only one left with a Schaeffer who is sleeping for years, the door opens and in comes a random guy who reveals to be THE badass div 1 agent who rescued manhattan alone and now had a year holiday in africa... he came back bc he thought it could be fun to kill these noobs... after 15 control points and 10 bounties they finally meat THE REAL DEAL KEENER THEO AND KELSO IN A 2vs3... After a legendary fight, the agents WIN and destroy them.

Sadly enough, while they were gone. Hunters and Black Tusk infiltrated and destroyed everything in Washington D.C. including the White House, so Castle is your main location. You have to get Washington back, Agent. Alone. Div 1 Agent went back to holiday, sadly.

After you beat NATALYA and McManus in a 2vs1 fist fight, you turn around... only to get welcomed by Mr. Aaron Keener, Theo Parnell, Kelso and MRS FAYE LAUE.

The stars are alive once again.

[lavish galleon]

like first they touch the electrical crate and turn off comms, they also walk into an empty room with just a pistol

[ocean shoal]

if they tell me to kill kelso i won’t

[lavish galleon]

I will gladly do so

[wicked gorge]

I will

[tight jacinth]

I will definitely

could have just told us

we know nothing

[wicked gorge]

You see that would make sense

[clear heron]

Kelso has been an annoying prick since the beginning but naaah who's gonna be the foil to our goody two shoes Sheriff?

[ocean shoal]

😭 i never found her annoying

[lavish galleon]

after repeatedly hearing her sarcasm in countdown, I will gladly spam toxic and scorpio on her

[tight jacinth]

kelso the most loyal and passionate ass about the division just decides to go to fcking keener and keeps us in the dark about it

love it

[wicked gorge]

I was never invested into her character till wony came out

[lavish galleon]

Nah I knew something was up during the countdown lines, she did not care for us during those missions

[ocean shoal]

her not telling us is crazy ngl

[lavish galleon]

She didn’t even like tell us goodbye or nothin

she just gave us a nexpo intro and that’s it

[vale oak]

i just want it to be next season already cuz maaaan i wanna know what else is in store 😭😭😭😭

[wicked gorge]

You know after everything we’ve been through who could have just said bye at least but no she runs off with Keener, im glad he’s alive tho, pissed, but happy

[glad spruce]

Phil, calm the fuck down

[wicked gorge]

Kelso rogue set

[lavish galleon]

Keener looks slimmer ngl, bro hasn’t been bulking

[clear heron]

Kelso always seemed to be that agent who doesn't go by the book and kinda hates authority

[ocean shoal]

real

[restive phoenix]

That’s what being shot by around 12 rockets does to you

[tight jacinth]

Hawkster, I like you.

That's what I was trying to do for half an hour.

But its nearly impossible.

[lavish galleon]

i hope the next manhunt isn’t even related to this, its like some hyena member just blowing stuff up too much

[ocean shoal]

aren’t one of the council members still alive

[clear heron]

I mean the way she acts when Ellis was rescued was already a tell-tale sign, then she finds out Ellis was an ass, then later she also finds out the agency she's been on is getting hamstringed by a corporated russki and the own director of homeland defense- I mean, I'd go rogue too

[sudden mortar]

I just noticed how our agent is dumb sometimes, like:
Our agent: I just saw Kelso getting shocked in the footage because a two factors authentication was required, ok I'm gonna try the same freaking thing and oh no, I got shocked.

[wicked gorge]

Yeah agent forgot about Kelso and Keener, there’s a hyena that stole my margarita mix

[wicked gorge]

To be fair, many of us would touch the box

[vale oak]

yeah lmao

[lavish galleon]

i’m going to walk in, with just my pistol too

[vale oak]

you underestimate the strength that a random box you can open has on the human mind

[tight jacinth]

Not a hyena... Joe Ferro is back in the hood and trying to make Washington his playground. Set an end to this!

[lavish galleon]

honestly, joe is chill

[tight jacinth]

Yes, sir, Manny, sir!

[wicked gorge]

Next manhunt, we’re finally gonna find out who Alex really is

[vale oak]

guys... lmb return because yes... omg..

[lavish galleon]

i wouldnt mind joining the cleaners if ferro was back

[lavish galleon]

that’s actually the last manhunt, thats why we gotta go back to brooklyn

[glad spruce]

Okay, this channel is turning to a mess

[wicked gorge]

Technically they already did

[sudden mortar]

Also, you can mess with the cutscene and throw a bunch of decoys and shock traps in the middle of the scene lol

[tight jacinth]

what do you expect after this 😭

i was hyped and then i get this

[lavish galleon]

honestly true

[vale oak]

i want an lmb outfit tho..

[glad spruce]

Sounds like a you problem

[ocean shoal]

this

[tight jacinth]

Why is mess a problem?

[lavish galleon]

Like my agent has survived being gunned down, blown up, gets shocked once, go nini

[glad spruce]

I shouldn't expect to care about your feelings

[vale oak]

like pls bring back the stuff from td1 because I NEED IT

[tight jacinth]

we just want to have fun writing bullshit in here lol

[wicked gorge]

The first game has 3 lmb types

[vale oak]

we already have the aegis set, WE JUST NEED AN ACTUAL LMB OUTFIT 😭😭😭😭😭

[lavish galleon]

td1 apparel > td2 apparel

[sudden mortar]

Rogue agent life be like lol

[vale oak]

td1's atmosphere and setting will always trump td2's

isnt it like

[tight jacinth]

true true

[wicked gorge]

Both are good for the aspect of their games

[ocean shoal]

loved they you could wear jackets over your shirts/vests in td1

[tight jacinth]

rogue agents so useless i cant

[vale oak]

isnt it october in td2 rn

[glad spruce]

Okay, alright. TD1 is so good you wanna make out with it

[vale oak]

i havent played td1 teehee

[glad spruce]

Give us a rest

[ocean shoal]

can we also get snow back

[lavish galleon]

nah we got sandstorms

[vale oak]

its like september/october in the timeline rn....

[wicked gorge]

I found it fitting that I was wearing keeners outfit and keener came and took the shit from the box, karma

[vale oak]

maybe snow can return.....

[lavish galleon]

so like, does isac let us not get sick

[ocean shoal]

i hope

[lavish galleon]

like our agent should probably have a cold by now or something

[ocean shoal]

bc i really liked the snow

[wicked gorge]

The cold fears our agents wearing American shorts

[glad spruce]

10 dollars says the next two seasons will be about following up this season's story while setting up the DLC

[vale oak]

definitely

[ancient path]

so who threw a reviver hive at keener

[ocean shoal]

more kelso theo and keener content 🥹

[lavish galleon]

I dont know mannn, maybe not 🤔

[tight jacinth]

me sry

[vale oak]

what do u guys think will happen next season

[lavish galleon]

my bad, i got knocked next to him

[sudden mortar]

I just noticed that, the div1 takes place in the winter, the div2 takes place in the summer, and the division heartland will take place in the autumn season, I think the div3 is gonna be spring or winter again (I hope)

[tight jacinth]

i also just killed schaeffer in the white house

[vale oak]

he had it equipped

[ancient path]

[tight jacinth]

was fun

[wicked gorge]

So whos wants to bet we’re getting their relationship

[vale oak]

he just like us fr!!!!

[ocean shoal]

that would be great

[lavish galleon]

keener follows meta!!

[vale oak]

he a true solo player... always has reviver hive..

[ancient path]

bro took way to long to use it

[lavish galleon]

what if next season they just make rogue agents follow pvp meta

[vale oak]

it was lag vro....

[ocean shoal]

y’all think keener will find another rogue

[wicked gorge]

Well the reviver is a true homie, unlike teammates

[ancient path]

maybe kelso activated it cuz they were curious

[vale oak]

[sudden mortar]

It was recharging

[ancient path]

hmm I wonder what reviving the most wanted man in the state is gonna do

[vale oak]

clueless

[lavish galleon]

but can keener beat control point npc ally?

[tight jacinth]

yo come on that’s kinda unfair

ally clears no diff

[lavish galleon]

like whats the canon info for them, why can they just never die

[vale oak]

1 random civvie vs the entire rogue cell

who will win

[wicked gorge]

I think I miss something but did keener just copy Anna onto his watch or did we lost the whole program

[lavish galleon]

i’ve seen these guys survive constant bullets from hunters

[ocean shoal]

cloned it fr

[vale oak]

he copied isac onto his watch i think

and that activated the two-factor auth

having both isac and anna

[sudden mortar]

Or maybe his vanguard identification that was locked from us

[lavish galleon]

imagine he stripped the watch bonuses, feel bad for those 10k level people

[wicked gorge]

Well they already activated the two-factor before we were shocked

[tight jacinth]

That’s a good point

[glad spruce]

Copy. It shows cloning on his watch during the Cutscene

[lavish rampart]

Or he cloned his ID n was using a different/someone elses watch

[wicked gorge]

If thats the case im going to liberty island a few times

[vale oak]

imagine if the keener at liberty island was a decoy...

[lavish galleon]

Keener in fact, has two phones

[vale oak]

no way vros...

[ancient path]

Nah reviver hive can revive people that was dead for a month

[glad spruce]

We're currently week 14 on this season, right?

[sudden mortar]

Keener: sorry agent let me take my 100k SHD level from "my" watch, thank you!

[lavish galleon]

maybe that was his plan all along, waiting for exp exploiters to do his work

[wicked gorge]

Im more curious if Ubisoft had this planned out from the start of wony or they just said fuck it, bring back the dead

[vale oak]

he did descent bug for 100k shd and 5 quintillion hp... thats how he survived..

[vale oak]

highly doubt they did lmao

[lavish galleon]

I think massive wanted to end it on WONY, but ubi was like “money”

so they had to make manhunts, which led to this

[vale oak]

ending it on wony wouldve sucked

"wow u finished dlc... thats everything :P"

[glad spruce]

Pretty sure the initial plan was WONY, the first four seasons, then moving on.

But since the game still had a playerbase, they decided to continue

I dunno about y'all, but I'm really excited for the next two seasons and the DLC

[vale oak]

yeah

and same

[lavish galleon]

that makes more sense, but i think they just didn’t know what to do to continue

[vale oak]

even if the whole thing was kinda weird with keener being zombie im still fuckin hyped for whats ahead

[ocean ermine]

I've heard something about a division 3 in the works
Is there something known about it or is that like very new information?

[lavish galleon]

keener’s actually tom clancy

[vale oak]

Aaron Keener's The Division

no way

[glad spruce]

It got announced last year

[sudden mortar]

[lavish galleon]

I heard it is in the works but thats about all

[vale oak]

ya

its just in the works so far

nothing else

[ocean ermine]

Ah so quite early on I would imagine

[lavish galleon]

has the division 2 had any other collabs

besides re and, i guess breakpoint

[vale oak]

uhh

[sudden mortar]

And Sam Fisher outfit

[vale oak]

gfl collab when 🥺

[lavish galleon]

yeah that, i dont think so, which makes me wonder, do you think our agents recognize them orrr

[glad spruce]

Probably not

[ocean ermine]

What is gfl?

[ocean shoal]

r6 ig

[lavish galleon]

i feel like i’d go rogue too ngl if most of my clothes come from caches

[ocean shoal]

the thermite outfit if that counts

[glad spruce]

All US government entities has pretty much collapsed since the Green Poison

[vale oak]

gacha game that td1 had a collab with a few years back

[ancient path]

I feel like I'd go rogue if the enemy health on heroic was lore accurate

[ocean shoal]

being rogue would get me a lot more health and armor + no skill cooldowns

[wicked gorge]

So your telling me I get a cool red watch, can put my brick anywhere, and I get amazing health benefits… sign me up

[lavish galleon]

and i dont have to open caches too for my clothes

[ocean shoal]

can spam skills as a rogue

[vale oak]

double artillery turret

[glad spruce]

If the game was lore accurate, we wouldn't have endless supply of ammo, 150 inventory slots, etc...

[sudden mortar]

At least we didn't have to fight this hunter without SHD tech just because somebody forgot to turn the Mobile SHD server repeater on.

[vale oak]

besides hunter dropped cool af mask

[ocean shoal]

😭

would kill a boss to get their outfit

[wicked gorge]

Im happy we got a freedom mask, totally worth killing another hunter

[lavish galleon]

i think the worst thing about being a rogue is that you have to deal with status effects more than an actual agent

[glad spruce]

Also, we would've been shot dead with a couple of shots if the game was lore accurate.

Hence why lore and gameplay segregation.

Tbh, I'd kill for a single player spin off

[ancient path]

You can be lore accurate with perfect glass cannon

[lavish galleon]

^

[glad spruce]

There is that

[ocean shoal]

give me a cosmetic option to make my watch red

[sudden mortar]

Unfortunately "lore accuracy" and "looter shooter" are two things that can't come together most of the time.

[lavish galleon]

So like what was manny doing the during knockout

when our agent took a nap or smthn

[wicked gorge]

They dont sleep, they just inject red bull into their veins

[lavish galleon]

like i would assume isac would sent out an alert, like incapacitated or smthn

[sudden mortar]

Plot twist: he is a hunter too

[ocean shoal]

might as well be

[vale oak]

everyone is a hunter

[restive phoenix]

If we were a hunter Keener would of executed us on the spot after shocking us

[sick lantern]

would have*

[restive phoenix]

Ok thanks a lot grammar police

[glad spruce]

To better the mood, let's say I wanna give Aaron Keener a little kissy

[restive phoenix]

No

[glacial veldt]

hunters hunting hunters 🤔

[wicked gorge]

I wanna give him with a kiss with my shotgun, then apply a amor kit to him

[ocean shoal]

would rather give kelso one

[lavish galleon]

okay so, i swear the brooklyn bridge was like blocked off with cars and all that back in td1

Why did they take a van

[sudden mortar]

Technically you just need a hockey mask, be silent and have an overcharged jammer pulse.
And some smoke grenades so you can teleport

[ancient path]

so we need an overcharged jammer pulse

that's hard

fast travel = teleportation close enough

[ocean shoal]

bc why not

[sudden mortar]

"Fast travel with a SSD"

[wicked gorge]

If we can invent teleportation then we can’t invent a op pulse charge

[sudden mortar]

Or a useful bombardier drone

[tight jacinth]

anyone didnt get the last kelso note as well?

i have 24 / 26 somehow

[lavish galleon]

there was?

[tight jacinth]

yea kelso note 5

[ocean shoal]

replaying the manhunt gets you one

idk about the other tho

[tight jacinth]

the whole manhunt??

or the final mission

[ocean shoal]

final mission

[tight jacinth]

nope tried that

[wicked gorge]

Yeah I don’t have the fifth note and it’s the last one I need

Welp time to look for mysterious lights

[glad spruce]

Gonna give it a few days till we solve the puzzle

[restive phoenix]

I’m sure there’s a puzzle behind that I’m sure that will probably tip us off for what’s next in the story

[tight jacinth]

"I am sorry I couldnt tell you. Manny wouldn't understand. He would try to stop me. The effects will wear off soon, you'll be okay. I need to finish what we started so we can win this war."

K

thats the 25th and the one I am missing

[wicked gorge]

Nah man high risk ,high reward

[ancient path]

Hopefully it says something like "erm actually keener used reviver hive late" that's the only explanation for any of this bs happening

[vale oak]

pluh

[restive phoenix]

So she actually apologized for drawing us into a trap and knocking us out

[tight jacinth]

I mean keener knocked us out

but yea

[wicked gorge]

No it was Kelso, she told us to

[ancient path]

keener has no obligation to tell the truth

[tight jacinth]

yea but not in person

or was it idk

thought it was keener

[restive phoenix]

Theo showed that he could mess with ISAC’s kill confirmation system during his mission Im sure they pulled something similar with Keener

[wicked gorge]

Keener is incorrect in this situation, Kelso just wanted us to be shocked

Speaking of shock, WHY DONT WE HAVE THE SHOCK TURRET FROM THE FIRST GAME

[glad spruce]

Cuz we have a shock trap lmao

[ancient path]

It makes no sense that they could just play dead with all those bullets being shot at them

[sudden mortar]

The devs don't want to create new skills, only new gear and exotics

[ancient path]

It had to be extremely late reviver hive

someone throwing reviver hives at these dudes dead bodies

[glacial veldt]

high risk, no reward

[sick lantern]

Keener when we check his pulse: 🤯
or secure his body like Lau or Bin Laden

[lavish galleon]

so like why did kelso have to go rogue

[wicked gorge]

I did not notice that

[ancient path]

kelso is gonna pull a faye

[tight jacinth]

she has to finish it bro don’t u understand

[ancient path]

Kill the rogue faction and die like faye

[lavish galleon]

smh kelso

[ancient path]

Surely

[sudden mortar]

Reject SHD, be rogue

[remote tree]

Imma put my two cents here: || that ending was trash, Kelso going rogue was def in the books but the return of keener and theo out of all people was bs. It would’ve been better if it was a new line of rogues like Keener, in a way of history repeating. They pulled a somehow, palpatine returned hard and its bs but thats just me||

[wicked gorge]

The way they’re making it, the rogues are the true division, and the division are the true rogues

[lavish galleon]

yea

i would’ve liked that

honestly, like atp in the story, i still dont get why we have rogue statuses anymore since i thought we was focusing on just black tusk now

[wicked gorge]

The rogues are basically the only people who can actually hurt the black tusk apparently

[lavish galleon]

they know Natalya’s wifi password or smthn

got her deleted tweets in that briefcase, man i feel insulted, bro shocked the sheriff, cloned their watch just for a small briefcase

[tight jacinth]

SHD Point 😈

New skill for Aaron Keener

[wicked gorge]

You know that brings a good point, if we’re there sheriff, how come we don’t have a sheriff uniform

[sick lantern]

lmao true

[sudden mortar]

The nearest thing we have is the survivalist specialization outfit

[sick lantern]

📠

[wicked gorge]

The Australian specialist you mean

[sudden mortar]

I have never been in Australia, how would I know they use this kind of outfit there

[wicked gorge]

That’s what I call it, the hat is why gave me the name

Im still waiting for a dog companion

Also, im glad this mission we didn’t get thrown a whole army of black tusk and true sons

[stray crystal]

any chance you could send a screenshot of that comm in dm? (from the game)

[lavish galleon]

i hope everything blows up on kelso’s face

but who is running the riker’s now

[wicked gorge]

The million leaders we’ve killed and somehow are a million more

[lavish galleon]

i forget that the true sons are aligned with BT

[tight jacinth]

i cant send a screenshot here

its on the community dc

[stray crystal]

That's why I said DM ^^

[tight jacinth]

ah oops

u are on 24/26 too?

[sudden mortar]

I just hope that isn't another hunter undercover like wright running the cleaners (before Paradise Lost).

[wicked gorge]

Lets be honest, they’re probably is

[stray crystal]

I'm on 25/26, missing that one - wondering if it's around the box because I fast travelled after
Also saddened it isn't a puzzle.
|| I went to Liberty Island because of "The Lady" mentioned in one of the comms (It's the statue), but no dice ||

[tight jacinth]

why are u on 25/26 maaan

i dont get where I am missing one

[wicked gorge]

You redo the manhunt and get the comn from haven from keener?

[tight jacinth]

ah I have to redo it to get the 25th?

[wicked gorge]

The manhunt mission yeah, the bosses drop coms

I redid the mission 3 times and only got 2 coms I think

[tight jacinth]

oh man now I resetted the whole thing

huisdßofp+ü

ready to do 25 control points 😈

[wicked gorge]

More like 8 and 12 bounties that make you wanna ripe your hair out

[sudden mortar]

You still can do the manhunt mission by toggling the mission mode

[tight jacinth]

you are a life saver armor keeper

[wicked gorge]

I thought it was locked till you completed all the stuff again or the season ended

[tight jacinth]

nope i can do it

even though my manhunt is 0%

[wicked gorge]

Just run it on normal and speedrun it, if you need one shouldn’t take more than 5-10 mins

[sudden mortar]

Weird, when the recruiter manhunt issue was a thing, I still could the final mission without the manhunt progress. Maybe it doesn't apply here for some reason.

[tight jacinth]

got it ty

[glad spruce]

I feel like it's pretty clear that at this point that being Rogue doesn't make you evil automatically.

And the way I see it, the Division program has been compromised since day one. So if putting an end to McManus and Sokolova means having to rogue, that's an option I'm more than willing to take.

[lavish galleon]

honestly, i think sheriff needs a day off

[tight jacinth]

good idea

[glad spruce]

Just pretend logging off the game is the Sheriff's way of taking a day off

[lavish galleon]

why didnt sheriff call for backup? are they tupid?

[wicked gorge]

When we log off, everyone isn’t hostile and throw BBQs

We are the backup

[lavish galleon]

kelso gave roy a hug and the dog a pat before going rogue

[wicked gorge]

If the dog goes rogue, then that’s my signal to leave the Divison

[sudden mortar]

And of all the division agents, we're the only one mute, or maybe our agent doesn't speak because he/she is shy af

[wicked gorge]

My head cannon is our agent is just sick of everyone’s bs and if they speak, they kill someone from pent up rage

[lavish galleon]

the sheriff is just like that ig

They dont even yell the control point leader for help, they just do a king baldwin and go 🖐️

[wicked gorge]

King Baldwin?

[tight jacinth]

replaying that makes it even more bs, this chest in the middle of a tank was the most obvious bait I've ever seen 💀

[lavish galleon]

Im over here thinking its gonna be at the final area, like most manhunts do, no it ends like almost there. Then again there was like 4 bosses

[tight jacinth]

other dc said that they got "kelso 5 note" from the scene with the hunter

but most people who tried it didnt get it after replaying it

[remote tree]

Freedom mask goes hard for a true sons hunter build

[lavish galleon]

probably bugged or smthn

i wonder how manny’s toy map is looking

[remote tree]

But that ending left such a sour note in my mouth. Im over here speedrunning the mission with a friend before I do my final exam and he heard me go “WHAT?!!!” And he’s laughin his ass off saying welcome to the division 2

[wicked gorge]

When I first saw the cutscene, I thought keener was on drugs for a second

[lavish galleon]

With how skinny he’s gotten, he probably is

After xdefiant, I think my favorite faction now in td2, in terms of personality, are cleaners

[wicked gorge]

When that game drops we better get a Divison faction or a hunter one

[lavish galleon]

nah i hope we get the cut, outcasts

they were replaced with libertad, which sucks, i really liked how they used SHD equipment for support

[wicked gorge]

Yeah I never understood why they deleted a faction instead just adding liberated

[lavish galleon]

to be fair, about keener’s revival, they did bring back hornet that one time

also, when is schaeffer waking up

[wicked gorge]

Im just sick of reckoning character deaths, i love keeners character, but if your gonna kill someone, make them stay dead

Probably the dlc

[lavish galleon]

like they were making up schaeffer to be really really important and then boom kelso plot

[wicked gorge]

Im relistenimg to the coms and realized, how is Roy and Rhodes gonna take that keener is alive and Kelso is rogue with him

[lavish galleon]

the dog too :(

[wicked gorge]

The dog is the true key to stopping the black tusk

[sudden mortar]

Bro, I think the devs knew what they were doing when they decided to bring Keener back.
I just heard "the fallout" comm and Viper told Keener: Unless you have got a secret resurrection cocktail in your bag of viral trick, I don't want the kind of immortality you are offering".
Is the 25 comm.

[wicked gorge]

When I listened to the comn saying Theo was alive, I didn’t even register that keener could be alive until the box cutscenes

[glad spruce]

This reminds me. Ubi forward is on June, right? What if its where the next two seasons and the DLC are revealed?

[wicked gorge]

The dlc aint dropping till next year right?

[lavish galleon]

yeah

[wicked gorge]

I wanna see Keeners boo or settlement, it sounds interesting

[lavish galleon]

im still happy that i called for the hunters being here is because rogue agents were activated

[wicked gorge]

Now im curious if there’s a wave for the 3rd wave

[remote tree]

Idk if the hunters are still considered 3rd wave or not

[lavish galleon]

eh i doubt it

[glad spruce]

Now, I need to find out how to get the last comm for the season aka Kelso note 5

[wicked gorge]

Technically they are, but they also are t

[remote tree]

I know that was thrown around alot back then, and they do go after shd agents and rogues cause they have their own network under mcmanus

[glad spruce]

They're more like a failsafe against Agents who don't follow the mission (aka agents who don't follow Cal's orders)

[remote tree]

Yeah

[lavish galleon]

i remember one comment who said they were russians

[wicked gorge]

That was back In div 1 when they only used Russian weapons

[remote tree]

Spoilers don’t click if you haven’t finished MH finale: ||If Kelso going rogue is anythin like Fau goin with Keener to drain the swamp, I’d go rogue too but man, i still think it would’ve been better if Kelso had done the dirty work herself with a new ring of rogues. I still don’t like the oh isac can be easily manipulated excuse on something so light. The one with theo is plausible in which he could’ve sent a riker as a double with his watch cause it’d be in character for him to weasel out of shit||

[lone salmon]

Feels like the whole "they cremated her" line is them insisting that Lau's gone for good

[wicked gorge]

Next season we’re gonna see Faye walk out and say I got better

[lavish galleon]

We’re gonna see joe ferro too

Dont we have some true sons on our side?

[wicked gorge]

You know I haven’t seen anyone talking about viper being a hunter

[tight jacinth]

her leg is finally getting better thank god

[wicked gorge]

Oh really, I didn’t notice

[tight jacinth]

and she can see again - with both eyes

[remote tree]

Faye is dead. We killed her and they cremated her

If she comes back on some bs, i’m puttin in my two weeks 😂

[wicked gorge]

Man the power of med kits and armor plates in the division universe, they can probably cure cancer

[lone salmon]

One thing I'll give them is the mission choice. Everyone just kinda assumed liberty island but nope, the tanker

[lavish galleon]

if kelso makes the excuse that the division does nothing i’m calling her bs

[tight jacinth]

Definitely

[lavish galleon]

If all fails, reviver hive

[lone salmon]

More like doing things for the wrong cause

[wicked gorge]

I love that the reviver hive has become a meme

[tight jacinth]

what I dislike the most is that we learned nothing new about the thing they all talk about

"yea if you know more agent"

[lavish galleon]

we did much more than kelso, we should be the ones getting the offer or at least some info

[tight jacinth]

yea I mean thats nothing new - the agent getting no credit

[wicked gorge]

I will say this, Keener is honestly the only person I trust to take down the hunters and black tusk

[lavish galleon]

“hey kelso, you can join us, agent? idk get more info and maybe i’ll think abt it”

[lone salmon]

Tbh i wish division would go the Destiny route of acknowledging the crazy stuff players do

[tight jacinth]

"i cant tell u. but now i know. just come. and see. but not yet. i will tell u. its better. if you would know. i trust u. see u soon." K

just tell me kelso i did everything for u goddamit

[lavish galleon]

Honestly, stopped nuclear power plants from melting down, the raids and incursions

[glad spruce]

Probably because we're mute sociopaths

[wicked gorge]

I love how in the first note Kelso leaves, she complains about rogues having eyes and ears everywhere

[lavish galleon]

Exactly, like i dont get their mentality of the system is corrupt this and that, and have someone who has been giving orders from that system for like the majority if the game

[tight jacinth]

😭

[wicked gorge]

The irony

[tight jacinth]

fr i would have sworn that everything can happen today, but kelso going rogue

puuuh idk

[wicked gorge]

Welp, maybe the unknown in the footage may have been keener

[tight jacinth]

true could be

but were they allied before that?

or were they just "hey kelso, thanks for coming even though you dont trust me (like he told cassandra)... but now you will definitely trust me even though you get shocked... greetings, keener!" "oh, i am alive btw."

[wicked gorge]

Probably after Kelso input Laus identification and got knocked out, keener showed up and told her everything and wanted to form a alliance

[tight jacinth]

but why not the same with usssss

maybe he thinks we cannot be trusted bc we dont talk and he cant judge if we will help him

[lavish galleon]

no idea bro, apparently we’re not cool enough or smthn

[tight jacinth]

yea we will see

in a year 😈

[wicked gorge]

If keener recruits us, it’s game

[lavish galleon]

honestly imma bout to side with black tusk and them

[wicked gorge]

Keener” You think me and my rogues are targeting the division, this has been further from the truth” City Hall -_-

[tight jacinth]

just bombing our base of operation, city hall and executing agents who dont follow him

[lavish galleon]

He was in his rebel phase

[tight jacinth]

yea no shot i am against u

[glad spruce]

Yeah, I'm not keen on joining Nat and her death cult

[wicked gorge]

Yet states im not targeting you

[lavish galleon]

bro made a whole gas bomb to target haven and manhattan

[wicked gorge]

Uh uh uh “Private military company” get it right

[lavish galleon]

idk she seems like she appreciates my work

[wicked gorge]

She does, but if you fail to kill us ,she kills you

[glad spruce]

I know its controversial, but I still wanna hear Keener out.

[tight jacinth]

sadly he is just waffling around, I would too but that gaslighting is insane

[lavish galleon]

that and she also has her own gear set soooo ykkk

[wicked gorge]

Keener is somewhat right

[lavish galleon]

i’m not tryna lose my smg damage

[waxen sonnet]

"Yes Officer, This tweet right here, this one"

[wicked gorge]

Yeah he definitely goes at the wrong way, but keener is somewhat right

[lavish galleon]

when we fight black tusk our agent will say its the division time

[tight jacinth]

ITS THE DIVISION TIME 😭 😭

[waxen sonnet]

I mean neithers right, The Divisions as it stands is too infiltrated by Mcmanus's lot to be trustworthy, even to fellow agents, But working with Keener is not the way I wanna go.

Man like it or not if he's right is still pretty screwed over what he's done in the past

[lavish galleon]

if there’s the division, can we call rogues, multiplication

[wicked gorge]

Timeout, now!

[lavish galleon]

massive, if you need any writers, i’m here, for the right price of course.

[restive phoenix]

That’s my point exactly in my opinion the best option is to keep working with the JTF and civilian settlements that’s what I think is the best thing to do moving forward

[tight jacinth]

But what is he saying exactly? He just says the division is not the right thing anymore. Okay, fully understand. And we need to get away there. Yes. Definitely! But what's his point? He wants to get the Black Tusk? That's all?

[lavish galleon]

We need to be in our hero era

[tight jacinth]

After all he did? He says that's the reason we need to follow him?

[wicked gorge]

He wants to help ppl, seen in the comns, yet attacks the Jtf, agents on sight, they abandoned him for dead, and now he’s trying to end corruption a bit? It’s confusing but hes the better choice outta the ones we got

[waxen sonnet]

I think he wants to take on Mcmanus And Nat before they esentially create there own new form of United States Government that takes over.

[lavish galleon]

He destroy city hall, the thing our td1 agents like built brick by brick, made the eclipse thing, had agents turn on each other

[glad spruce]

I feel like if we're gonna ally with him, there's gonna be some conditions between both sides

[waxen sonnet]

What he does after that, I dont trust

[restive phoenix]

Oh absolutely his methods have no limits that why I don’t want to work with him

[wicked gorge]

Next game, do a fallout faction system, id like to see that play in perspective

[glad spruce]

Frankly, that's I want to help. Besides that, he's on his own

[restive phoenix]

I’d much prefer to work with the barebones JTF and civilian militias we have instead of working with that lunatic

[waxen sonnet]

I deffinetly dont want him coming back as the Anti-hero that saves the day, because while his character will now have that Ego, I still consider him as bad as Sokolova or Cal.

[tight jacinth]

And why aren't Black Tusk just taking the White House now? What's holding them back? They have enough ressources to bomb it and to capture it. I just don't understand both sides.

If they want the government, they can get it.

[lavish galleon]

they got lazy or smthn

[tight jacinth]

ah k understandable

[wicked gorge]

Im scared to think keener is gonna form his own hunters

[lone salmon]

So yeah, the fact that this is supposed to lead into the DLC honestly kinda stings lol

[glad spruce]

They were close to taking over the White House back in the Stovepipe Manhunt

[restive phoenix]

Couldn’t agree more he’s also partially responsible for how fucked the division is the amount of havoc he caused to the 1st wave and the JTF is just too much to ignore

[glad spruce]

If not for the Mobile SHD Server, we'd be fucked

[lavish galleon]

I think the issue was because they had keener start with diff ideas and then now suddenly he’s with this idea

[wicked gorge]

Plot convince

[tight jacinth]

I know, but come on. There weren't even Hunters to attack us.

[waxen sonnet]

They dont want to bomb it due to the significance of the building itself. As for why they didn't take it, they nearly did until the agents returned, I suspect given the fighting in the past now Even the BTSU's losses are starting to hit home and they couldn't field as many troops as had they done earlier in the fight

[tight jacinth]

If Nat wanted it, she would have it

[lavish galleon]

like outcasts, they just want revenge for roosevelt, simple as that, keener was the generic “we need to be strong and no more weakness”

[glad spruce]

My speculation is that someone (probably Viper) told him about McManus and Nat's schemes between Div 1 and WONY

[restive phoenix]

Our agent is pretty much a one man army the only reason they attacked the White House did because they drew us away

Nat is afraid of us as much as she wants to hide it

[wicked gorge]

He already knew about them both before the outbreak

[lavish galleon]

Can we go back to the settlement we had the tutorial in?

[glad spruce]

Not really since its far away from DC

[waxen sonnet]

Pretty much. Every counter and underhand tactic she's attempted gets countered, and now she realises just haivng man power isnt paying off when a cell of 4 is killing over a hundred men per deployment etc

(In game and the books)

[wicked gorge]

Id wish they do something for the settlements

[sick lantern]

inb4 “i was rooting out hunters actually 🤓” (in reference to how many agents he murdered)

[glad spruce]

That reminds me, I should really get to reading the Crossroads trilogy

[waxen sonnet]

Dew it

[restive phoenix]

I honestly doubt there were that many hunters

[lavish galleon]

honestly, hoping kelso realizes she messed up in joining the rogues

[tight jacinth]

i dont think that will happen

[sick lantern]

something something sacrificed for the greater good

[waxen sonnet]

*Not anymore 🔫 *

[tight jacinth]

and i hope for god sake manny doesnt say "we need to eliminate the rogues" bc then I am going to throw my pc out the window

[lavish galleon]

Lets just rescue more survivors

[restive phoenix]

Well the greater good pretty much fucked over the division and the JTF in New York

[glad spruce]

That's kinda prejudiced, tbh

[wicked gorge]

Considering it’s supposed to be a small covert unit, im pretty sure we’ve killed them all

[lavish galleon]

also what was the purpose of making most of the bounty’s cleaners and rikers

[wicked gorge]

Cause

[waxen sonnet]

We still have Chernenko and the BSAV And the strategist to recover.

[tight jacinth]

yep true xd

[restive phoenix]

Probably at this rate that’s why they’re recruiting

We even killed their head recruiter so it’s fair to say Cal probably hates us on a personal level

[sick lantern]

fires a missile at SHD Osprey “i never targeted the division”
slits division agent’s throat “i’m actually the good guy”
massacres city hall with a bioweapon “i’m going after sokolova and mcmanus”

[waxen sonnet]

Ugh god dont make me agree with you for once that never happens.

[tight jacinth]

*I have Chernenko, a 3D printer and a veeeery interesting recipe book. *

[wicked gorge]

Wdym man, Batman does this stuff on a daily, keeners just a better Batman

[waxen sonnet]

Trust the hunter to say that 👀

[lavish galleon]

the division discord will now be the next r/arkham asylum

[wicked gorge]

Soon

[lavish galleon]

with the way the story is heading, this channel will definitely become as unhinged as that subreddit, then again it could be r6s lore levels of making no sense

[glad spruce]

If that becomes the case, I'd better off discussing the story in DMs

[waxen sonnet]

"Hawksters nest group chat for semi mentally deranged lore boi's"

[restive phoenix]

Im interested in seeing where they take the shirt next, I’m hyped but I still do not trust Keener

[steep flame]

I think the story is evolving and changing at a nice pace.

[tight jacinth]

there is r6 lore nowadays?

oh lord, lvl 300 and didnt know that

[waxen sonnet]

I want to unironically deal with Nat and then shoot keener in the face, again.

[lavish galleon]

if you can even call it that

[glad spruce]

"Hawkster's nest for Division 2 lore discussions. Semi-mentally deranged only"

[restive phoenix]

Oh I’d love to do that

[lavish galleon]

i want to emote on them

[glad spruce]

Do we get to shoot Nat?

[tight jacinth]

What a beautiful name

[lavish galleon]

i doubt we’ll kill nat, we’ll probably have a vehicle boss fight and she’ll be like “Erm actually.. I wasn’t even in that vehicle, nice try lol”

and then idk set up for the division battle royal or smthn

[waxen sonnet]

I get the vibe either the Hunters will (literally) stab her in the back so Cal can take over, or we really will finally kill her.

[restive phoenix]

She’s an oligarch we’re not going to fight her directly, we’d fold her like an omelet in about 2 seconds flat

[waxen sonnet]

Yes, with my shotgun hopefully.

[lavish galleon]

or maybe nat is like “Hah, i’m actually on the division side”

[waxen sonnet]

I highly suspect someone is finally going to kill her at the end.

Be it keener, Us, or Mcmanus

[lavish galleon]

how come keener lives but lewis doesn’t

[glad spruce]

Right. So... I'm muting the server for a few days. DM me if you want to reach out

[restive phoenix]

Probably Mcmanus

[lavish galleon]

also didnt keener literally blow up the ferry that kelso and us were on

[restive phoenix]

Yes

[lavish galleon]

what did keener offer to kelso?! the secret to out pizza the hut?

[restive phoenix]

I still don’t get why we’re being kept in the dark what’s the point just to slowly drive Manny insane

[glad spruce]

Maybe

[waxen sonnet]

I think when it all starts to collapse, Mcmanus will order his hunters embeded into the BTSU To literally stab her in the back and attempt a power take over until we kill him.

[glad spruce]

I'd dare say Keener's offer is the countermeasure to Nat's anti-SHD tech.

Let's be honest, we got lucky when we had Birdie's help against The Recruiter. We won't get that same chance again

[waxen sonnet]

I suspect even more than that, Im thinking a counter to Nat's entire tech base (DIAMOND) On which the BTSU runs on as much as our agents run on ISAC.

The Warhounds and other skills pulled out from under her

[glad spruce]

Y'know, Jack. You and Rudolph are the most enjoyable people to talk with when discussing the lore/narrative 😄

[waxen sonnet]

Why thank you 🙇

[lavish galleon]

honestly, I just hope its an actually fun boss fight

[tight jacinth]

You forgot me. Thanks, buddy 😎✌🏼

[lavish galleon]

w phil

So the true sons that joined us are now jtf right?

[glad spruce]

You too, man

[glad spruce]

Pretty much. But they're kind of miniscule to Anderson and his True Sons

[lavish galleon]

I would’ve liked to see them in like a new uniform honestly

[waxen sonnet]

Some, not many survived being wiped out when General Anderson and the BSTU Attempted to kill them all off at JTC.

[lavish galleon]

for both sides, to show their alliance

[waxen sonnet]

I think putting them back in a uniform other than the JTF doesnt get people comfortable with them, you'd be a walking "this guy was True sons" vibe

Not good for the general public to see and trust, and a target for the remaining True sons moreso than a normal JTF

[glad spruce]

Yeah, that's one way to put it

[lavish galleon]

eh true, but atp the division, at least to me, needs more allies

[glad spruce]

In any case, if anyone knows where to get the last comm, let me know

[tight jacinth]

I heard a rumour from my jtf buddy at a control point that Charles Bliss wasn’t even in the helicopter and he is still alive. Maybe he could be a good pick. 🤔

[waxen sonnet]

God if they do the same thing to Sokolova i will genuinley scream

[tight jacinth]

Same

[ashen jungle]

I'm still stuck on 24, ran it 3 times now.

at least it's short.

[glad spruce]

I guess I'll wait it out till we get some videos on how to get the last one

[tight jacinth]

24?

U sure you looked at the first boss?

[ashen jungle]

3 times looted, yes.

[tight jacinth]

Okay, very weird

That’s the reason I stopped for a year or so… like 2 years ago there was a manhunt where you had keys to look at a video at the basement of the White House. My key was gone and the video didn’t play and it still gave me the mission „look at the video“… these bugs are so annoying

[glad spruce]

Wait, hold up, Kelso's fourth note mentions the Kansas core.

Isn't Heartland taking place in Kansas state?

[fast wharf]

Man the ending reveals too much about it

And quite sad tbh

The vanguard season ending

[glad spruce]

And we're gonna have to wait till June for the next season.

On the bright side, we do have 4 more weeks to get the Descent comms. Well, at least in my case.

[waxen sonnet]

Its actually regarding the books, but as you're reading them, I wont spoil it.

[glad spruce]

Gotcha

[waxen sonnet]

The Kansas core events take place in book 1 & 3 and are pretty pivotal to those books plot, but have wider implications for the Division afterwards so I'm glad it's referenced

[soft harness]

Have someone found the last comm peice for this season? I re-ran the manhunt a lot, only got the comm from first boss, where is the last? If it's a puzzle or something, can someone let me know? I am dense and stupid.

[surreal hearth]

I’m godsmacked

We were used again

[ashen jungle]

The Almighty has one hell of a backhand.

I'm only gobsmacked by this tbh.

[surreal hearth]

I’m honestly being sick of being used

Again

[ashen jungle]

I'm calling it now, every single person in that car is dying, if that makes you feel better.

[surreal hearth]

Kelso used us used ISAC rogue status to what?! Steal more classified stuff?!

What is she up to?!

[ashen jungle]

Probably Faye Lau'ing it.

I guess her VA was busy.

[surreal hearth]

Still this is gonna finally crack the division rank hard

[waxen sonnet]

Unironically yes. This one sparks Joy

Minus Kelso, unless she goes out full boss moment

[ashen jungle]

I genuinely liked her character and am kinda annoyed she's well, what she is

[waxen sonnet]

I think she never got over loosing Lau, especially when she learn't Lau died trying to get inside the btsu to stop them, and wasn't the traitor we thought

[ashen jungle]

Lau I'm less annoyed with because her character was just so stupid at the end.
She could've just not tried to kill us.

[waxen sonnet]

I dont think if it came to it she would've, maybe seriously injured us so we couldn't continue instead

[ashen jungle]

I mean after she killed Ellis. All she had to do was just stop, put down her guns and stand there with her hands up.

I'm sure we have zip-ties.

[waxen sonnet]

A lot of her dialogue as you're about to fight with the benefit of hindsight comes across as a "please dont do this theres more to this than you're getting"

[ashen jungle]

I re-played the mission in the lead up to this and she always fires first. The story says she's now an enemy and that's her fate.
Remember that we didn't even get confirmation that she was dead until the next Season.

[frozen monolith]

I just beat the manhunt

What in the god dam

[ashen jungle]

Good swears or bad swears?

This place is swinging between "clever and well thought out nuance" and on the other end "somehow Palpatine returned"

[frozen monolith]

Like Keener and Theo ?

Absolutely crazy I knew he wasn't dead

[glad spruce]

I'm on the former, tbh 😔

[ashen jungle]

Theo using a Decoy Skill to fake Lau being alive is certainly something.

[frozen monolith]

Duuude tho like Keener being alive is crazy but Theo he faked fire twice and got us both times

[waxen sonnet]

I think it would've done with more of a slower build up to execute the return better, because it really does feel a rushed "palpatine is back" vibes

[frozen monolith]

Sorta but I feel Ike they've been hinting at it for a little bit

I'm honestly super happy I love Keener, I just hope they don't kill him off next season

[waxen sonnet]

Yeah, the hinting and the build up was well done, but then it very much was a sortta "good build up, good build up - and then the ending is a Massive drop outta left field nobody saw coming that is left feeling a little silly"

[frozen monolith]

Yeah I feel it

It's probably cause they pushed the dlc which is a shame

[waxen sonnet]

I think they felt they needed to quickly push the starting moments of the DLC, but the whole problem is i feel they did push it too fast so it feels silly because its been rushed

[sand spindle]

Probably been asked a million times by now but... Anyone find comm 26/26 yet? Someone on Twitter said they saw a SS here that there is a note somewhere that's #26 but...enough said- Twitter.

[next hemlock]

Some people have 25/26 not sure where the final one is

[bronze mist]

Got no idea where I found it lol

[sand spindle]

Possible it could have dropped from a bounty boss that we all ignored the corpse of...?

[frozen monolith]

Doubt it

I scoured everywhere and still got 25/26

[lapis burrow]

Maybe it's a bug?

[sand spindle]

Thought for a hot minute maybe 26 came from having togo tell the hard truth to Benitez, Rhodes and/or manny but...there were (sadly) no interactions I could find for any of them

[sand spindle]

That's what a lot of us are thinking...

[lapis burrow]

The manhunts usually have a track record of bugs.

[sand spindle]

Not facing Manny, Benitez and Rhodes with this development seemed like a missed opportunity to me. js

[lapis burrow]

Maybe for year 6 season 1 that'll be part of the opening cutscene.

[sand spindle]

Clever! Hope so, kind of. But, kind of don't want to see the disappointment on especially Manny's face over this...he and Kelso were close; served long together in DC

[ashen jungle]

If this whole thing is a build up to the next Div project, I can see Keener's VA being cast as him in a live-action feature.

or better yet: mini-series.

[sand spindle]

Don't kow about that. Keener's VA doesn't really look like him, I don't think

[frozen monolith]

More and more it feels like we may be working with Keener to bring the down the division

[lapis burrow]

Honestly I can see this whole thing going on building up to the all out war on Nat and Cal in Division 3.

[sand spindle]

If this is all leading to Y6S1...what lore is gonna be left for TD3...

[ashen jungle]

I mean, he doesn't look not like him and the dude can act.

[lapis burrow]

We still have a lot of America left that can be used for Division 3.

[ashen jungle]

That's assuming that the casting of Jake Gyllenhaal wasn't for Keener himself.

[sand spindle]

Well, I mean... just looked up John Hopkins (Keener) and, I guess, with the right makeup and outfit...

[ashen jungle]

Look up a picture of him about 5-10 years ago and you'll see it more.

whenever he was in Midsomer Murders.

[sand spindle]

Yeah, true that. Think in the novels they made it over by Cali or Nevada...could head that way ingame

[sand spindle]

Yeah yeah! I see what you mean! wow

[potent halo]

I have feelings right now after finishing the manhunt
of all the people they could bring back why theo

why the nerd

XD

[sand spindle]

Because Theo is a nerd...who better to steal ANNA from under Cal and Nat's noses?

[ashen jungle]

I like to think it's because they realised that they could make fun of Theo better than Dragov or Conley.

already setting up the locker they're going to shove him in.

[potent halo]

conley would be hard to bring back, she did do a outcast rusher moment

[ancient path]

Conley exploded no reviver hive is gonna save her

[sand spindle]

What I don't get though...the brass confirmed and re-confirmed Lau as dead and asshed her...why didn't anyone do that thourough for Keener, being literally Public Enemy #1?

[ancient path]

Exploded so badly the only remains is blood

[shy ridge]

Kelso, would it really be that hard to spend even a minute explaining your points? Please? It just looks like you mugged us and ditched

[ashen jungle]

I shot Theo in the face with an explosive sticky bomb.

[next hemlock]

She did

[ancient path]

but did it make theo ashes

[potent halo]

I made him swiss cheese with minigun

[ancient path]

The explosion wasn't good enough

[frozen monolith]

Atleast it wasn't Vivian who came back would be hard to explain that one

[shy ridge]

If there’s going to be another fight with Theo in the future where he has his decoys again I’m going to lose it!

[frozen monolith]

That would be hilarious

[sand spindle]

Kajika and Dragov weren't as "important" to Keener and his mission as Theo... They were only ever muscle and brawn. Conely...was just a mental-case

[ashen jungle]

Actually if you want a fun time, kill the named Rogues with a headshot during the zombie GE and you can watch their heads explode 5m in every direction.

[ancient path]

This manhunts ending feels like karma for leaving keener on an island and not burning his body or doing a conley

[potent halo]

if thats gonna be the cause I bring my own decoys, cause he aint the only with clones

[bronze mist]

he gonna have clones that can move or somethin

[potent halo]

they gonna be spin botting

[ashen jungle]

put them on Roombas.

[sand spindle]

Decoy upgrade...instead of a standing still holo...moving AI holos like you're on a Star Trek holo-deck

[fast wharf]

Quite sad kelso, the one who always helped the player decided to betray him later

[potent halo]

but all jokes aside I did really like this manhunt and kinda hope we get to stuff theo into a locker
no fight or anything

[sand spindle]

That needs to be an actual Decoy upgrade at some point...imagine chasing an agent around the Dz only to find out it was a holo the whole time...LMAO

[fast wharf]

Cheeseburger

[shy ridge]

After this we’re going to have to burn the body and separate all the ashes across the world

[fast wharf]

Honestly i think it would be hard to code an moving AI that shoots to be even more fake

And the cooldown should be 50 for reasons

[potent halo]

sees an agent running into an allyway, 4 agents leaves

[shy ridge]

Decoy that lasts much less time but shocks enemies

[sand spindle]

TBF, she never attacked us or anything...if fact, she always liked Player and wanted Player to join her... (which, I will given a chance/choice)

[fast wharf]

Would be funny if it was a seeker mine that showed the player decoy

You could make someone paranoid

[sand spindle]

When did The Division turn into an episode of 'Supernatural'...? lmao I call being Cas!

[fast wharf]

In dz

[shy ridge]

When two people we unloaded hundreds of bullets into came back

[fast wharf]

Revive hive lore:

[potent halo]

just a prank bro

[sand spindle]

😂 Fair!

[ashen jungle]

I think that pretty much just describes Sam and Dean tbh.

[sand spindle]

^^

[ashen jungle]

like how it took them 7 or so seasons to get the anti-posession tattoo.
sorry, I'll stop now.

[fast wharf]

Can we get a variant of seeker mine from a hunt season

[shy ridge]

There’s nothing that makes the revive hive canon, right? It’s not aknowledged anywhere. It’s just a gameplay device

[sand spindle]

If Keener and Theo are Sam and Dean...that means Keener is Dean...the cute one and Theo is Sam, the smart one! I like it!

[shy ridge]

All the lore about the hive talks about the stinger, right?

[fast wharf]

Probably it does some sort of electric shock to start the heart again

[fast wharf]

Inside ofc

[shy ridge]

By that logic St. Elmo’s Engine should heal enemies more than it damages them

[sand spindle]

Thought Rive was(briefly) mentioned in one of Thomas Parrott's books...

[shy ridge]

Oh ok. I haven’t read the books

[ashen jungle]

I'm one letter away from being canon.

[fast wharf]

Not really you need a certain frequency to not damage and fry the heart

[shy ridge]

Then uh….. I’ve got nothing

[obtuse arrow]

I hope to team up with the rogue agents and if Manny gets in the way I get to kill him

[fast wharf]

St elmo is probably a 30 thousand voltz charge per bullet

[fast wharf]

Poor manny lmao

[sand spindle]

Rive Hive, Chem launch heal, even the epi-pen med kits we use utilize nanotech. Rive probably shots nanos through wounds that go to the heart and shoke/heal

[shy ridge]

Manny is this game’s equivalent of a tired mom trying to rangle all her kids, except her kids are all in their rebellious phase

[bronze mist]

im pretty sure depending on where they are found they have the little symbols (Like the heart for the civic center and the 3 dots for battery park) so if you tell me how many you have in each one i could maybe help narrow it down

[fast wharf]

Imagine being some random blood cell see a bunch of teal color robots rush in

[sand spindle]

After a couple years now of teal nanos rushing saving our butts..my blood cells be like, "Yeah, daddy's home!" and rush in for a hug! lmao

[sand spindle]

checking comms now

[potent halo]

manny and crew has been by our side at all times, its wild to think the people so far who has never backstapped us is the normal folks, heck the hyenas have been more trust worthy then our fellow agents XD

[sand spindle]

Got 4 of each except the shield looking icon - there's 5 of that one

[bronze mist]

have you done the side mission at the end of the manhunt?

[obtuse arrow]

But really what has Manny ever done for us besides tell us what to do?

[bronze mist]

when you go to haven and listen to the recording

[ashen jungle]

He called me a Sherriff.
yeehaw.

[sand spindle]

Feels bad for Rhodes especially...he actually got to like a SHD agent (Kelso)...and this...for him and Benitez, after everything with Keener than Lau... [smh]

[fast wharf]

Cheeseburger

[potent halo]

Rhodes still got us

[sand spindle]

yep, did that - got that comm on list

[bronze mist]

tell me the other 3 names of the ones you have

[sand spindle]

And, where TH is our TD1 character in all this. Getting lazy at the Post Office after Lau went south? Be great if of 1 character showed up at some point to save the day

[sand spindle]

What other 3 ones? The skull/manhunt comms?

[potent halo]

well he is the division coordinator for dc, so him telling us what to do makes since

[sand spindle]

"Kelso 1,2,3 & 4"

[bronze mist]

like how the keener one is called invitation

one sec I didnt read that right

[obtuse arrow]

Yeah true, That's why I don't mind putting a bullet in him instead of Kelso.

[sand spindle]

Update, Fallout, Plans & Drinks

I couldn't kill Manny...maybe way back but, now...with him and Mari gonna have a kid? Nah.

[bronze mist]

So you have: The Plan, The Fallout, The Update, Drinks, and invitation?

[potent halo]

dude never gets a peaceful moment, between his friends joining "imma make the green dollar flu look like a joke" keener and BT trying to build a damn empire im surprised dude hadn't had a heart attack yet duo to stress

[sand spindle]

I have all those. Yes

[bronze mist]

Do you have all 5 notes from kelso

[ashen jungle]

Replaying the entire Manhunt from the start should give it to you.
Check #ask-td2-community for proof.

[bronze mist]

im tired asf and I thought you meant you had 4 in all of them mb

so yea you're probably missing a note from kelso

[ashen jungle]

#ask-td2-community message

[sand spindle]

🫡 Just reset the whole manhunt. Will update if I find anything

[waxen sonnet]

Man having just seen it, this is more sane than the bloody Reddit rn, god they're not liking them being back.

[glad spruce]

Yeah. I'd rather be here than the subreddit atm

[fast wharf]

Sometimes i think that our First agent on division 1 is also the same in division 2

Or maybe he went rogue and the situation is unknown

[waxen sonnet]

I think he's what you make him, the brilliant thing about it being your character is you can give yourself a send off you find appropriate if the game hasn't given you one.

[ashen jungle]

Correct! As far as we know, the canon for our div1 Agent is "grey", so it might be you, they might be Rogue, might be dead, might be off on a private island somewhere.
With a post-release update for div2 you can even perfectly recreate your physical appearance from div1, minus clothing.

[storm crystal]

I cant tell if i like where the lores going or not
reviving "dead" people for the plot usually is considered a cheap trick
Even tho i liked Keeners plotline and felt it ended too soon and too unspectacular

Keener putting the eclipse Virus in a rocket to shoot on stuff makes even less sense now

[fringe gale]

same