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I just finished the mission on master and it said I got the sheriff but it’s not in my inventory or stash
I finished it about a minute before the server restart
question - In the Stretch Goals, how much XP is needed to reach the next level. I'm struggling to find out how much XP is needed per level
1000 per level I think
@main valve Just so you know, it's Season XP, not SHD, so gaining SHD levels won't really help you there.
Yeh im aware, ty tho. Looking for the best place to farm the season XP without it being mind numbingly boring
Priority strongholds are excellent for them, once you've run out of Manhunt/Journey stuff of course.
Yeh ive ran out on both the manhunt and Journey - reaching level 193
Sounds like you're up to the Priority Strongholds them. (season page, it's hard to miss in the menu)
the listed reward doesn't matter, just the difficulty you pick.
Much appreciated
is caretaker any good?
Hey guys, I have a question. To get the climax mission, do I first have to complete the manager master's level?
I did 2 black tusk bounties and got 2 chameleon's from the targets. How is thatcpossible?
Rng. Also chameleons have extra chance of dropping from bounties specifically.
Do we see those probabilities anywhere?
40mins shooting master boss and no water cannons working lol he immune fix this game pls devs
No dont think that's required. Just the 3 HVT scouts
wipe and next time fire water faster as soon as green signal shows
You can over stack. Just not the old way where you got all your SHD level points again. If you have a good amount of SHD level points you can do it. You need to boost a new guy to level 40 Brooklyn run the 10min intro than go to DC. Once there you can do the watch with your existing points and add whatever you want material wise up to the 999 max. Once done buy the share materials Blueprint and your materials account across guys will be over the 999 buy whatever you were able to add point wise. Do it as much as you want until you run out of points. Only way to add more points is playing and getting them per level.
If I need to liberate a control point for manhunt but I already own it, do I have to wait for it to be taken by the enemy
Or is there a way to force allies out
You could reset all your CPs
Oh cool I was hoping there was a button like that somewhere, thanks I couldn’t find it
So I just got nemesis from stretch goals.
If I get the other parts (from invaded strongholds) and have friend in my group when I actually get it. Can I drop it for him or not?
Is the Bloody Houndsman outfit worth grinding the Reanimated event?
yeah, especially since theyll offer it later for premium... free is always better. it doesnt take that long, just run your daily/weekly stuff on your alts with event on
It's in the global difficulty options from the main map
yep yep, i always forget thats a menu, INF's message reminded me
Chat which areas are best to clear for spawning hostage rescues
Federal triangle is fastest. I also see them in downtown east and in judiciary square quite often
Bet
what is a "rescue operation activity"?
Hostage rescue, green handcuff icon.
ahha... ok thanks
boy oh boy, they phrase that differently 2 different times... why does everything have to be a stupid riddle
haha, don't ask me
there has got to be a better way to open all these spare apparel caches 😭
1st world problem
@limpid sequoia Put a podcast on, and just get through enough to earn 15k in textiles for the Stretch Goals.
You got this, Agent 
absurd that they don't just allow you to open all of them at once, maybe that would break the game lol
MSV have told us that each cache's contents are rolled fresh when you open them, same as Field Proficiency Caches. So.....you can imagine how opening a few thousand at once would go, per player.
They are working on fixing it though.
those 71 apparels? are they same since the beginning?
you get one every 2 levels right? just sopen as you level up
Once you get into the few k's of SHD levels, you will have more than 71.
The visuals stop telling you how many you have at anything over 99.
not the chest. total unique items in the chests
they must be 71 or 72 sth like that
if it is a repeat you get textile credit
yep, the idea with opening more later is the textiles.
you can buy stretch goal levels with this event using textiles, up to a max of 15, 000 spent.
i have like 1000 credits 🙂
credits are the premium currency, textiles are something else.
you can also spend 450 textiles twice a week with Danny Weaver, to open a special cache that gives you a dye from a former Season Pass.
Level up more, you'll get excess.
I can't recall if there's a way to see the total number of apparel caches that each Agent has, but I can imagine it's quite a lot.
question : i have the blueprinit for catalyst mask (not sure where i got it but probably retals) but i dont have the mask itself. i know that mask comes from the army terminal mission, i did it but did not get the mask. question is now that u have bp, is it possible it drops from other sources or comes from chests as part of exotic pool?
The Catalyst mask doesn't have a blueprint.
Yes.
they are not same lol
Absolutely not.
Hello, does anyone know the drop rate of the Sheriff on Story Difficulty?
@forest otter There is no Story Difficulty, if you mean normal: it's really, really low.
How low?
1%.
It's always 1%, 3%, 5%, 7% and 10%.
Some guy got it in normal posted to reddit
Not story but Normal I mean… as there's no Story. I just replied to the wrong message smh.
Thank you all!
Just get it on Master as it's guaranteed for the FTC.
He was playing in normal to see how the valves etc work at the end and gor it
What's the best way to get lexington right now, stretch goals?
@versed harbor Best and only!
And eagle bearer is dz landmarks/dz drops and bighorn floor 10 summit legendary?
eagle bearer is a dark hours exclusive, but was changed to allow it to drop in dz's with a .025% drop chance
you can also obtain it from the stretch goals, as showcased here by my screenshot from last night (steam deck with a phone camera, accept it for what it is)
Yea I know it's a raid drop, but I can never get groups together so I've just been farming dz. Trying to put together a better pvp build cause I'm so fed up with the griefers that down me in 2 seconds lol
GCRock discord lfg's would do you way more justice than hoping for a strike of lightning
ive gotten EB to drop in dz. only took me 3 years to get it to drop
Can't count on stretch goals either apparently as they seem to love only giving me caretakers and equalizers.
What’s the best way to farm seasonal xp ?
strongholds prio obj
5 equalizers, 10 bittersweets, and 4 caretakers from stretch goals. Safe to say my rng is a problem.
@calm willow What Doomz said, but don't forget about the Journey/Manhunt activity, those award a ton.
and having the Seasonal Modifiers turned on give you an extra 10%.
Does anybody know how to fix the DZ season pass xp loss??? I lost 6 levels for stretch goals after dying once and now I can’t claim caches
don't play the DZ or die there
you need to level back up to be able to claim them again
Well thanks for the obvious, although seeing as im finding info on how this is an old occurrence and still not fixed seems to hardly be my fault that this isnt announced or mentioned prior. Hopefully it does fix when i relevel, thanks for the help.
do i need friendly territory for hostage rescue missions ot pop up
@bright trail If it's a green activity (handcuffs/shooting range/supply drop) then you need to control a large area surrounding the zone where you want it to spawn.
Red activities are the exact opposite.
GL Agent 
Does the Ruin mask drop on any difficulty if you kill the secret boss? 🤔
yea, it's been here since the last few stretch goals, can't give you more than that
more people need to report that stuff via the official channels, so it becomes a priority or a pressing issue, but I guess because it is a limited time period (2 weeks) and only happens in the DZ, just a small portion of players are affected by it
@gleaming wigeon I've only ever heard folks mentioning it spawning on Master Difficulty, that doesn't 100% mean it can't, but I'd be kinda shocked if it could spawn on say, Normal.
the hunter spawns only on master
Hmm, Ok thanks again 👍
for the stage 5 gunner reward i need to get 20 mounted kills on roosevelt island, how do i go about doing that
The final area has 2 mounted guns, won't take you long.
ah cool
i'm looking for that gunner helmet you showed me lol hence why i'm asking
i already have gunner all specced out too lol
@inner tendon just finished it i got the gunner uniform but what about the helm? i don't see it
It should be a reward as part of those steps, did you do all 5 steps?
and i have the year 1 bundle which i assume is the premium edition
Yeah the year 1 bundle should include it.
which category is it in?
Gimme a sec to load in, I haven't done those since 2019.
weirdly the hunter masks especially the recruiter and houndsman fits super well with the get up i have so
neat!
Okay so apparently you get the Mask by finishing the tree to max level first, which I honestly don't remember but worth a try!
Stinger Hunter might be your speed, since it matches the colours.
i have it maxed out though
Try restarting, most bugs in div can be solved via that.
Hyena Redeemed Headgear also works, since it's that colour, and kinda bulky.
i have it but the balaclava from recruiter makes it fit better i think
what is it called in game?
the helmet specifically, i know where the ballistic mask is
that's the "care less", but there's other similar options. Even the swat stuff isn't half bad.
there's even a grey tier "ballistic helmet -dark grey" that is alright on a budget
div agents are very "whatever they can find" in the canon, so have some fun with the outfit.
does this have a named version?
I'm looking for this quest world does anyone have it available?
Where would we post game changes ideas in hopes a community go between get it to them
kinetic momentum? don't think so
nah
believers wet dream of PEs as best xp farm:
mhmmmm. whats that big thing in the sky invading my bounty 😆
So.... I encountered a Bug, where I was doing the Pentagon missions, and I went to the visitor centor, I opened the gate, I saw that I had some comms I havent picked up and when I came back the gate is closed and ther eis no way to open it, any advice?
On Xbox would anyone be interested in opening there crates and gifting me the Lexington im on level 35 and still haven’t got one yet
wait i shouldnt be voiding these?
Lexington btw
😔
you should be adding your weapons and gear to Favorites so that you don't deconstruct them accidentally
R > Space
oh im intentionally deconstructing stuff i dont see my self ever using
im considering making 3 other agents but only have the lv30 skip, quickest way to sprint lvls 30-40? was wondering if i could just jump into a buddy's heroic 4 directives game while they blow up control points
A im sorry I know, this has been asked a ton and I prob read it 100x LOl but im a little baked now... hahah is reconfig bugged or am i missing somthing 🧐 🤣
relog. the items bugging out. happens from time to time
^ but I got it today LOL
i mean as in the item is bugging out and not in the crafting tablet at the moment. relog usually fixes that.
had it a few times with my gear lately
Green is what we got so i got 10 e-comp and waht not, yeah i know its not doing proper dmg I jsut wanna make it purddy
You need to have a pistol called Mosquito on this character or in your stash.
Otherwise, it won't let you reconfigure the Sheriff. Don't ask why.
........................................
you are pulling my freaking leg dog!?!?!?!
🤣
if your for real no.. becasue
You dont have the Mozzy ?
If you put Mosquito in your Stash, you'll be able to reconfigure the Sheriff on any of your characters.
If you put Mosquito in your inventory, you'll be able to reconfigure the Sheriff only on that particular character.
na I have the blue print I needed the comps, I will never use it or did I forsee needing one for this !!!!
yall gotta be messing with me HAHAHAHAHHA
I trust you man Im jsut at awe LOL
Ain't we all?
100% yes..?
this has me cracking up frfr
I needed the room in my locker, needed the comp for lvling something to 30, Taught to my self I am not gonna use this crap I got the blue print if for some reason it becomes god like I can craft it..... well here I am 🤣 foot butt
which weapon is this?
Vector
can be dark winter?
correct and we dont know 9 or 45 ?
45 acp IIRC
the vector 45 (edit i didnt see it had a not killer talant in the photo)
as DOD once said its the best ar thats not a ar. iirc this was pre lex @bright trail . and as you can see i put the 9mm one in there so you can tell the diff, the 9mm one also comes with out a but stock but the mag is silly small the 9mm is always solid black
Do CP's you can get the blue print. and you can get the named one from doing retails
in this build this is used as a second weapon to capacitor (umbra capacitor pvp build)
only i can open 4 unburnable gloved out of 4 stretch goal caches
give me a backpack at least
i want 3rd atrribute damage to out of cover right
look like i i have the bp somehow
@bright trail As a general rule, you want "dtooc" (damage to target out of cover) on every gun.
LMG's already have it, so for those crit chance (CHC) is best overall.
yes
you know what really grinds my gears.... getting an exotic component cache instead of just getting an exotic cache... at least make it a few components in the damn thing 
I like to think it's just the ninjaknees and the game is like "we both know what's gonna happen, lemme save you some time here".
At least you have caches, unlike me yesterday. 🤣
Nah, it was pre-delta thingy.
What’s the fastest way to level stretch goals? Trying to get my first Lexington
stronghold prio obj and Journey & Scouts
Ty
^the reward of the priority objective: stronghold doesn't matter, just the difficulty you play it on.
Hopefully it's not a unicorn but I've been trying to farm/craft a Lengmo double crit Backbone for a while now with no luck, Am I wasting my time and resources? 🤔
What’s the best exotic LMG right now?
Some random build I found that uses memento and bullet king
Ain’t great but it gets the job done
Helped me with killing all DC hunters
mind sharing a ss?
Alrighty hold up
Iron Lung for sure, but Pesti is also good if we don't take its long-ass reload into account.
lmao yeah 😆
I assume crits right away
I recently started D2 like maybe a few weeks ago
Got bored with breakpoint so I just searched for other tom Clancy games on Xbox
it's not that bad, but Memento is a run&gun exotic which imo doesnt synergize well with TS, let me show u something that you will definitely love
Please do
This is very detailed compared to those damn builds on YouTube
oh dude, stay away from division yt like really
Oh word?
its filled with clickbait, 15 minute yapping and ytbers dont go in depth bc they suck or dont know shit
there are some exceptions like iKia and a few others
Damn
there's a Spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice which has a Build Hub with up to date tested builds
that one I shared is just a quick guide, details are in the guides made by the community's goats 🐐
Well this is going to help me once I get set with the game
I appreciate the information by the way
hell yeah, welcome to the gang btw
bru 😆
do we share the same braincell by any chance?
As if I have any
also, dont be afraid to ask even if you get harsh anwers you will most likely get actually useful advice from anyone, especially from MrChow, he may sound rude but he is pretty straight-forward with his replies
Can’t be as bad as showing a build in a Destiny 2 server at its current year
if anyone says Ninjabike bag is good in all seriousness insta ignore them
golden rule
Oh yeah that backpack, I kept seeing the name everywhere on YouTube
I do have it but I prefer memento for its talent and also the hunter drip
Yikes
Well thankfully grinding for builds in this game isn’t as horrible as it is in Destiny 2
well... about that...
there's stuff you don't get to know yet lmao
enjoy the game is all I'm gonna say
As long as I don’t have to spend over 100 bucks for content, I’ll suffer gladly later on
oh nah, p2w doesnt exist here. You only get to spend money if you want cosmetics
I might consider buying the fang Helment to be honest
Like the Helment is rad and I could use the credits to get a bundle
Do we get Anderson's Jacket thru the climax or the stretch goals?
I believe it's from the mission, the rest of the outfit being from the Stretch Goals.
why does sheriff not have any attachments :/
It just doesn't think of you that way.
😞😢
y'all how to deal with the event fart cloud destroying objectives?
Either turn it off or land body shots
Does the legendary summit farm still work?
Quickly sniff it up so it doesn't damage anything
Yes
I must be doing something wrong, I kill the boss, die, then kill it again but nothing drops
You have to open your map up and go back to lobby after every boss kill
You can't just die, respawn at the floor, and kill the boss again. Going back to lobby forces it to reset
So, it's:
Enter boss floor > kill boss(es)> snag the loot > open map > back to lobby
Wash rinse repeat
I see thanks
Hello pro gamers, according to our AI overlord, Coco is total damage source, is this true?
it's still a pretty big bonus once you get it going tho
This is my first time doing stretch goals, whats the fastest way to level them up?
Also are stretch goal rewardsw infinite for the whole 2 weeks or is there a cap?
yeah it's infinite and go for priority tasks for strongholds
do the scout missions if you havent done them yet
good luck, agent!!
Yo. Just got back into the game outta curiosity. Played mostly on PS4 so had to rerun stuff on PC but still waaaay behind on content like raids, incursion, Battle for Brooklyn and manhunts. Anyways, saw something about special masks from the manhunt. Some people say they only unlock on master but other say they got there’s on challenging? I don’t play with anyone so challenging would be ideal, but I wanted to know if that was true or not.
Done the scout mission up until the most recent ones so Im doing those now
Thanks 
Mask is master the shotgun can drop in any
When does the double xp start?
Oof. Thanks 😪
Do not the ai
does equipping 2 of the same weapon double the passive proficiency progress gain?
Not double (unless you're maining your sidearm) as the getting kills with a weapon gives faster proficiency than having it equipped but unused. It would increase it though.
how do i activate spearhead abilitynduring combat?
I hit UP on the D-Pad
and it says do crossfire kills? looks l already did some but dont know how ,lol
Read the modifiers, it explains each kill
thanks for this detaild explanation
you forgot to add all the steps you took to get there, you need to show your work too
what
sarcasm. he is implying i need you to tell me how to find that info
How do i unlock the climax mission in my alt character?
Sup guys. How do I know that I have an item that is modded and can't be tinkered?
Look for icons on the stats that are already reconficured or optimized
@pulsar sparrow thank you! and when it is a new looted item? How do I know if one of the stats is from a gear mod?
I think you need someone to taxi you
It’s bugged rn
Refer to this pic. The small orange squares below the weapon indicate a mod is installed. To the right, you can see the optimized icon is a circle (Damage to target out of cover) and the reconfigured icon is the tools in the shape of an X (Damage to Armor)
@pulsar sparrow thank you so much! Can I also see on a backpack if a mod is installed directly or do I need to check somehow else?
The 3rd small icon will be colored instead of gray
THank you guys
You can't. I solved it by having a player from my Clam take me on a mission. Once you've completed the mission on heroic, you can then find the mission on the map.
would elite resource convoy spawn more in heroic difficulty?
Totally random
I caught one on challenging yesterday when catching up on the scouts
(I was alternating between heroic and challenging, waiting five minutes each time)
we ever figure out how to get the ruin mask properly or do we need reanimated to drop gunnar?
No, there's a proper way of doing it no one has yet discovered. But we're might be onto something.
alrighty, currently trying to get it so, if you need a body hmu.
i even got a aerieal recon but no elite convoy sofar
elite convoys spawn from strongholds, (at least for me) it'll take you a bit, as I missed my first one and I had to wait a while for a second one to show up
nice me controlling crash site probably dont help
Not always, mine was between CPs yesterday.
that I did get once
Anyway the boss is immune to direct damage and he is also neutral to the player, so the only thing that could possibly kill him is the Avenger.
I don't usually pay attention but since I was on the hunt for one yesterday it and caught my eye
not sure how some people penetrated the glass, bullet proof for me.
i got the bloodhound outift without paying attention at all, nice !!!
turmoil kneepads
I'm attempting to do the method as we speak
I've had some hits on the boss (by my self so I haven't had the chance to stare at him running off) so was unsure if I killed him.
When I ran around and checked he was infact up there dead.
But I still some how didn't get the hunter to respawn, attempting to do it again now.
oooh I read the talent, I see...thank you.
So let's say I only cared about getting the ruin mask... Would i just play the manhunt mission to the point I make it to the hunter?
I genuinely don't care to complete the new manhunt mission bc Sher is useless to me
yes
I'm down to play if you need another player
Will have to be a tomorrow thing because I don't have the mental patience for master rn lol
No problem, just hit me up 👍
I held off my Manhunt for the Stretch Goals, (an then they go and add Textiles for 50 levels), and got the entire hunt done in 2 days of playing, -maybe 6 hours of dedicated play, lots of 420 breaks-, most was just waiting for stuff to spawn. but yeah if you just want to get to the Mission/End fight- HVT's are all you need to do
I cant sell, deconstruct or more stack broker why?
I have to stack broker i cant delete them. I do get probably more. Why cant i sell, deconstruct them
Because it's designed this way.
I have the anniversary one, but received 2 stack brokers from stretch goals
It's half-weightless, tho. You can just put it in your stash and it won't take up any space.
Or just open caches while having your inventory full next time, so everything drop to the ground.
Just like stacks, you just keep building them
So if i get more then one i have to keep it. I want to deconstruct it. Dont want stack broker. I have 3 now
and see how the number DONT change as you put them in the stash...
You can't deconstruct it. You can stash it and it doesn't take space like dognutzz said. Please read.
Ok
I have to stack them 😜
Eh i have 10 weapons included 2 stackbroker i cant deconstruct, sell....so
But if it says 10 and i had 8 before?
you have 3 players telling you this but you keep questioning it
Yes cause 8 weapons before and now 10 so it counts of a total of 400 stash space
I have read a bit facebook, + coments. People complain that stack broker shotgun canot be deconstructet, sell and it takes a bit of space. Just so you know. I have homepage. Well i dont use stash so much so i can have 400 stack broker shotguns np.
I've only started gearing up. I have an idea of what gear I want and how to get them. Is the general approach, keeping gear that was at least 2 of the stats I want since we can only change one stat line?
So if I want weapon damage, CHC and CHD on a piece. I just need to keep the gear with at least two of those and deconstruct the rest?
what's meant to be the fast method of farming named cleaners if you don't have any DLC packs? I've got both but just curious about how F2P is meant to do it
I guess doing one of coney island missions
true, guess i could do those since they're apart of the weekly
Gear pieces roll with specific cores and random attributes
EG a wyvern piece will always roll with a yellow core, but 2 random stats
So for everything but chest and backpack, you only need 1 of your 2 minor attributes to be chc or chd to
For chest and backpack, you either want chc and chd for your minor attributes so you can recalibrate the talent freely, or a talent you want and one of either chc or chd
However if you want a gear piece that doesn’t drop with a red core naturally, you need both chc and chd as your minor attributes so you can recalibrate your core to red
I see. Is there a list that details which gear sets have fixed cores?
all pieces have fixed cores but some of them depends on what it is , for example refactor chest is always yellow and glove is always blue
do you guys have any tips for doing hostage missions with reanimated on? besides just not shooting heads and disabling the event?
Wait for enemies to run away from the hostages I guess
tough because hostages will run to danger intentionallt
yeah
Yeah on the spreadsheet
it's a bit lame they haven't changed that tbh
@tough aspen the spreadsheet is pinned in #td2-build-advice
by the way hostage missions are fine, public executions are the issue
yeah that's the one i meant, soz
thank you so much
I got you 💯
Can anyone unlock the climax for me? My alt did the bounty so my main doesn't have the mission on the map. I just need an invite on any difficulty, please
Try #lfg-pc
I need it on PS, sorry forgot to mention. Posted on lfg-playstarion and here a few times, guess I'll just wait for them to fix it
does anyone have a fun Reanimated build to use? I normally use headhunter / hotshot but wondering if there's anything else out there.
i was thinking something rifle based with Turmoil could be kinda fun?
yeah, was wondering if there's anything that's there to mix it up but HH just seems to be the bread and butter
what the heck is coco hahah
Concentrated Company gear set
ooh new set
Pretty underrated on average
might have to farm a few pieces while it's in east mall by the looks of it
Countdown, ez
So the 2 weapon skins are kelso dream and... idont have kelso so...
Wat
Anyone know why they cranked up the time that you can abandon objective
Stretch goals weapon skins?
do variants of missions like manhunt roosevelt island count for priority objectives of the same stronghold?
It should
Does someone know the weapons skins it says only 2 - stretch goals rewards?
Bro, you're posting that in every channel now? If someone is willing to they will come forward, give it some time 😄
Just wanted to get the word out I’m sorry I didn’t mean to upset you or anythin
Self censor your multiple posts so I dont need to make a thing. 1 in the lfg is fine
Self censor means deleting the posts that are in the wrong channels
Well, they got some of them at least. Sorta.
Will see 
am i reading this correctly? when you play with global modifiers elites get 40 percent resistanc and 25 percent damage plus other enemoe geet damage resistance and my passove modifiers are not working unilt i kill jammer
Some enemies get different buffs
Not all enemies and not all modifiers at the same time
yes but companian is clearly a disadvantage then
other than completing journeys what is the advantage?
All seasons had hostiles getting buffs
Its up to you if the seasonal buff is worth or not
ah ok, this is my first season
another question: it says i need to complete journeys to get passive modifiers but journye 4 says, equip 3 passice modifiers.
Rage quit the new manhunt mission at the water cannon part. Does anyone have a video showing what the hell to do? Bc I keep failing
I don't play Iron Horse because I find the mechanics extremely annoying
@nocturne siren When he goes harder to kill, spray him with the fire-hose that has a green light near it.
otherwise: shoot him until he falls over.
if you miss the fire-hose, can take a minute to get another one. Best to not miss it.
if you're asking about just before that, spray the 2 bits of floor.
I did and still end up failing
He gets like some crazy damage resistance
I gave up
No like I did spray the entire floor continuously and still failed
the bit just before with the floor is what fails most groups.
remember: 2 sections of floor, not just 1
Man i dont work to type things at 3 am
So it's like 🤷
I'll try it again tomorrow. I sat for over an hour trying to figure it out
spray where the liquid fire stuff is coming out of, it creates a steam could when it works
if all else fails, someone down in #lfg-pc can give you a hand. I just used matchmaking and got it all done in one go.
I'm only after the mask really. Couldn't even finish it on normal due to how annoying this was
I'll probably ask somebody in lfg to host it on master and they leave so I can kill the hunter and be done with it finally 💀
The mechanics in this mission imo are the most annoying I've ever had to play. Especially the electrical box part
oh the mask is well before that bit
Sadly need to have Master just to fight the hunter
the mask replaces the reactor bit, with the chain that takes you to the 2nd level
I don't have that yet and was trying to unlock it tonight on my deck so I can speedrun tomorrow to get the mask. Rage quit 😭😂
join a group, ask to do the Mask. If they say no, just join another group.
have Reanimated Active, tonnnnnns of groups running it right now.
Sure, but you will need to have it unlocked first, of course
that's how i got my Mask run done
Oh
Can't I just find someone who does and have em start the mission lmao
Like the previous ones where you start it and invite them in
Game will kick you out or block him from starting I think
Wack af
I'll do it tomorrow when I don't feel like hiking my deck off a cliff
I do appreciate the help 🙏
And also that reddit guide I sent you.
Okay so I was shooting the wrong section of the floor. It's the BACK half. Not the damn front
🤦
This is why I don't Iron Horse
I'm not spending an hour going back thru it on normal that's a tomorrow thing. Thank you 🙏
Ask Dien to carry you. 😉
I'd just ask him to bring me to the hunter so he can be killed and I can let the mission rest in peace
lol
I can carry you as well tomorrow if I have time.
I'll give it a run solo on normal now that I know what I know. And well, will have an actual PC to render things properly as opposed to trying to play a map that holds 7 year old bugs and a steam deck with dumped down graphics for power saving purposes
so chat is full disabled ?
unless u verify ur age, why. its a 17+ game
ye i get laws in uk, but shit
No, only certain things
last month i couldnt go a minute without chat having 15 asian people talking
now nothin, i see nothin
Oh you mean the VC in this discord? Been gone for a while
nope
The community Division discord has VCs
ingame global
Ah. Idk I don't use public VC ingame
not vc
regular chat
cant even ask if anyones doin climax and its hunter cuz of it
I also muted all public chats because there are no filters and it is not moderated
i thought sweet dreams would one shot non elite enemies with melee attack, it does tno work with reanimated event
Maybe only one bash counts
i used it previous event successfully
IDK, I have not used that shotgun since '23 or so
It works
not for me. i have been trying with the 3 dude in grand wshingon hotel in normal and cant kill even 1
maybe because i was with companion
@nocturne siren WTF 3 of them at the same time? damn near had a stroke over it.
Its gonna be hard for uk people to play with randoms without chat
@slow solar NPC Rogue Agents attacking you are based on group size+1, so you'll always be as a disadvantage, of sorts.
id just rather not play
I mean, most folks just salute emote at the end of a mission anyway, it's the same as a gg.
was getting borin to begin with, now just unplayable
no but there were 3 of them and 1 of me haha
Bugged I guess. That is not supposed to happen.
or somenoe else was in your group and left as/then they spawned.
nope! ive been solo farming retals and control points for like 4 hours 🙁 idk what happened. only 3 of them spawned. bug i guess. i got 3 loot drops. one for each kill.
Yeah that is weird, they are 100% only supposed to spawn in at group size +1.
but hey, free drops!
How do you move your damage number away from your crosshair? Some people have it like an inch to the left/right.
enable floating number from settings
ok, super late PSA...
if you need them yaahl mats, clan vendor got your back this week. well worth the 5.6mil to max out for any future crafting needs
Oh damn, looks like I need to join a random clan for a bit
Only for the UK until you verify your age through Ubi.
i got a spot if need
yep an not doin that
so just not gonna play, easy
Sure thing
Only 5.6mil for 999? That's a bargain!
fr
is joining a clan worthwhile? ive never seen anything about them or anyone mention them. i rarely see the clan room in the whitehouse.
cant you just make one and save yourself from joining someone's clan?
it is, clan vendor and if the clan is active there is matchmaking opportunities
I think you need to have four players or so? Not sure
Honestly haven't tested it
i cant remember but you need to reach a certain level for the vendor
Yeah that too, and for that, you will need four members to get clan XP if I remember right
Oh hi 😄
hell i joined mine for a vendor way back.. then attrition left me as leader 😎
yep, 4 people minimum.
I was in a dead one with 3 folks for ages, no vendor.
Aye
i flipped that shit and i think most members are active in last 30 at this point
i just joined a random one and there's always a decent top 10 score each week, so hey, no complaints
although the clan colours are hideous for the hats
Time to craft some Yaahl chests 
let me guess, mangogzs 
they ugly af on this leaderboard wall 😂
i remember you said something about this one? its S10 part 2
i can not get it to spawn
Did you conquer the single CP in there?
yup.
The "friendly" activities alternate. If there is a practice shooting, do it. If there is an airdrop, do it. At some point it'll spawn without waiting too long
clear the red activities too, that way there's more room for them to spawn
Yus
How do you join ? I want to join for yaahl as well
blue and orange. ugh
#td2-clan-recruitment would love to have you!
i just used the ingame thingy
But i am not interested in clan will leave as soon as i get the gear. Dont want to lie
its not possible currently it seems. its a known and reported bug. https://trello.com/b/F2RU9ia9/the-division-2-known-issues
yes that shade of blue, with like, burnt orange. its a powerfully ugly combo
Weren't you talking about hostage rescue?
thats scout 10. objective 2 yes. the one the patch notes say is broken at the moment.
Nah it's not broken. I did most scouts yesterday, worked fine. Some take a shoot ton of time tho
They changed it from federal to judiciary i think
i hate waiting for the hostage rescues. had an area prepped yesterday, no hostage rescue but supply drops galore. i swapped scouts, instant hostage rescue pop... swapped back to scout that needed the rescue, supply drop again 🤦♂️
just said f them hostages
i had three back to back yesterday lmfao
ill start just joining you then
Purchase shit tons of them now, dismantle next week during event giving double mats
Do not open the optimization chests you get
Next week their content will be doubled
200 iq move
instructions unclear, bought and dismantled enough to get to 999.
now, to find an actual use for Yaahl.....this might take a while
BACKFIRE HAZP... nah, just kidding ;D
hey now.
There is a dark zone build by kamilaze but you need to get the backpack
Literally every single part of that sentence made me want to uninstall the game.
i wanna know where the boat is 🙁
no offense but ew...
LMFAOOO
lol
cleared the bounty and got an instant rescue.
That's my crafting in a nutshell
Worse than my garibaldi
Crafted 50 so far, not one that I could use
and now you know why we say to not bother crafting most of the time.
since it always scales down to normal.
i guess it beats DZ farming though.
Unreal. At lear give the friggin thing good rolls
To be far i got a ceska kneecaps the other day 15/6/12
And i needed it
That was a fine day
Happens sometimes, usually with unmatching attributes :p
this is getting so bad
Mine is twice as long
I just kill the dude on jefferson square every opportun
Thinking of not getting the bounty entire first day
I got like 50 thorn and like glue each
see, never fails 
I think hostage rescues work the other way, supply drops spawn when all cps in an area are controlled by the agent AND when I reset my map a rescue spawned in less than 5 minutes
might as well try it that way
all the cp controlled there . ive done the relog thing
lemme hop on rq
Elite supply is the worst
absolutely, I just run Sinkhole until one spawns, it never fails me
But there is a way. Make sure east mall is owned by true sons and fast travel to capitol
not sinkhole 
yes sinkhole 
I will never not love it
I hate sinkhole. During the retaliation they always come from behind the fence there
that whole area kinda sucks for retaliation, imho
they dont if you're sitting infront of it
ill take any other district
Worst
east mall is just ugh for retals
Solar farm is the worst imhoZ. Total chaos
i dont mind the cp's themselves.. its the running
at least you get a few kill squads
Yes kill squad is life saver it is the other shit
Bro i have the cp what are you doing here
Now that I don't need one...
west end and downtown east are my preferred . lotta spawn opportunities for kill squads, fast clear overall
there she is
stay put. youre now my spirit animal 🔥
thanks bro 💯
literally my 9th one. and a damn drone spawns
get your free exotic components! 📣
what do i want on a quickstep?
guys what does it mean to rescue the captured true sons defector is that like a missions or something? i need it to do the scout
if you wanna cheat this exists https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1pc4n8c/spoiler_y7s3_mutiny_scout_112_solutions/
thank you
swap speed
dang lexington does not want to drop
Is it right that the 2 weapons skin is called kelso dream and sedition..i wonder if i got both? Stretch Goals Mutiny.
for this stretch goals its Sedition and Insurgence
Thanks , i check for insurgence when i get home maybe i received all :). Have great weekend
i voided 5 of them and someone begged me to keep one yesterday. whats it even for?
its hype is unnecessarily high bc it's only 4% better than a police m4
ytbers have made it look like the absolute best god mode weapon ever made
although I'm not saying that you shouldn't use it or keep at least 1 for each character and put Killer on them
i like the maxed stats so i don't have to grind for more
ehh i love my load out enough that i dont really care lol
Whats the next best season xp method besides stronghold priority, I am tired of running Rosevelt Island back-to-back-to-back
i just finished scout missions! 2400xp PER mission.
like 2.4m xp
I finished those a while ago, are they able to be replayed?
no idea rip.
nope
Is this for the manhunt stuff to unlock master? Bc if so I unlocked it by only doing HVT 3 and HVT 2
oooo
Very good gloves 💯
They work like unbreakable but on gloves. Don't pair it with unbreakable tho it's pointless
Can anyone tell me when the houndsman event ends?
I'm confused every time i finish a mission or bounty or anything it force opens this window. but I've finished it.
Press and hold F on that screen
"stop auto briefing"
Seems to be a new thing they added that nobody asked for
Doesn't it say audio briefing, and not auto?
will deactivating the scout fix it?
Possibly. I don't really know
If your gear gets you to 55 CHC and your weapon gives you another 8, will you go beyond 60 in-battle or is itgoing to be capped at 60%?
it will be capped
I see.
Can someone tell me the reason why i cant deconstruct stack broker when i have 1 from before, all other weapon i can deconstruct. So if i get more than one i have to put it in stash. Its a joke, why do the devs make it so hard
it's just one item, it's annoying, yes, but it's one inventory space
Ok
Someone didn't think that through now that they're part of stretch goals
I see maybe we get a solution
Could try to create an alt, put weapon in inventory and delete that alt
Hmmmm
Just a thought, no idea if that works
it DOES work I guarantee you
is brooklyn mission bugged? rescule dr kandel
i was next to her she didnt do anything, i left the building, and im positive the door is now closed which i used to get to her in hte first place
24th utc 8 am
it doesn't take space in inventory or stash u can put 1000 of them
wth does she want me to do?
i think you should leave the building
nothing
well idk anymore sorry man
does she consider my companion as an enemy and is locked in a 'area not c lear' state or summin
can i unsummon him
not possible lol
ulld be surprised whats possible
go to your inventory and look for the shd watch at the top
welp, time to run this all over again -_-
so it will seem that was the case
wth
idk if its the relog, or the fact that i disabled the thing
if you have a medic companion does he revire you atutomatically when you die or you need to activate something?
What up doe my division family
Sometimes they, sometimes they don't. Roll the dice
but how do i make him ? i am trying to get this buddy fix or whatever journey achievement called. revive or make your companion revive you 2 times. i intentionally killed myseld, dude does not do anythng but running around, do i need to do something
Hey so… can anyone tell me why I have (-247.2%) headshot dmg?
Now I have (-283.2%). Why???????
It's just a UI bug with the bighorn, ignore it.
cheaters be like
thats high for cheater
i have seen cheats they would clear full krampus bounty in 30 sec and u'll lag like hell becz of all those npcs dying instantly
i see no reason why a cheater needs so much haz pro or armor cz u knows his cheating
It just sounds like someone using Reanimated well during a Retal
even without purely spawn camping, I was able to clear a Heroic CP within a Retal stupidly fast with an OnDir and a prolific amount of headshots.
same as the go rogue key, T
Ah
anyone knows if u can get bonehead hoodie for free? i cba spending 5$ for 30 premium credits then have them lay around forever
It's a store item that's not purchasable with textiles
so not obtainable by any other means like caches?
Nope, not at this time. We don't know if that changes in the future
damn alright thx
yeah, deck needed the rescue and his session was toying with him lol
He can't see your response
wait what
got banned
Not as far as I can see, unless the channel is glitching out.
Maybe discord banned.
for future reference: any name in white is one without a role on here, which either means banned or very new and somehow bypassed it.
Can overdogs drop from summit?
He left
Is valentine event dogs appears if reanimated event activated? Or i need to find dogs in normal mode and then turn reanimated for the rest of event items farm?
they appear in any case
@steel siren What's your platform for div2?
eliminate true sons commander enemies : are these elites or named enemies?
If it's like, 0/25, its any.
If it's way less: it's named.
30
If it's not regular, I'd be very shocked.
and fireteam enemies that is 30 as well
If you need to get to 10 in each Rank ASAP, you can travel from safe-house to safe house, it'll give you a random one each time.
Engineer has the tendency to be a slightly lower spawn-rate than the other two, but just keep going.
yes good idea
Hey guys! I saw people running quicker with a pistol equipped. How does this work? I have the same speed as with any other weapon.
Specific named pistol
The quickstep, 20% extra move speed while holding it
You can’t normally get it, but you can right now through the stretch goals and the head popping event
Bloody houndsman
oh wow, sounds good. Where do I start? Bountys?
so I finish the season pass and then?
To answer the last part first, finis the season pass and then every couple levels beyond 100 you’ll get a cache that has a chance to drop quickstep (among other rare named items)
you have a better chance to get quikstep from killing warhounds now
But the most efficient way to get quickstep is probably through the houndsman bounty
Oh nice thank you. Does activating the valentine event help?
Little war hounds are spawning throughout the map (idk if you need event active for them to spawn)
Look up where they spawn, kill I think 4 or 5 and you’ll get the bounty
Activate the bounty in the bottom right area of the map, run to the objective and you’ll see a little courtyard with I think 5 of the little doggies roaming around
Now, you can kill them, move inside the building and kill the houndsman to get some of his cosmetics and complete the bounty, or
I went into the DZ and now my stretch goals are bugged does anyone know if they eventually go back to normal?
you can kill the fist 5 dogs, run inside and let the houndsman kill you (which fails the bounty but you keep it) and reactivate the bounty when you respawn
It takes about 2:30 - 3 minutes to run to the bounty and kill 5 dogs, which equates to 10 named drops
Thank you so much, I try this out now
Btw you keep getting houndsman bounties every 5 dogs you kill, so even if you want to complete it to get the cosmetics on your first run, you can get another bounty to farm dogs
Do I need to have the newest DLC for the bounty mission?
Uhhhh I have no idea
I try it out now thanks
Good luck o7
Is it possible if I share a link to a fan made website for builds? (It's not affiliated with Ubisoft) It's new. I understand if it's not allowed.
#td2-build-advice post there
better to solo run challenging stronghold prio objectives or matchmake heroic ones?
if you have a good build & know the mission, solo on heroic. to avoid group scaling
guys, if you have unused scavanger points, it gives double field recon data
also crafying gives double
I've killed much more than 5 dogs but haven't got any bounty...Or im missing something? How do i know if it drops?
small dogs right with strange glow around them
when it drops it will show on screen as bounty
I'm not super confident in running solo heroic content myself, which would be the next best option?
solo challenging
i assume u r running for season xp from prios. if u can get ppl fast, run heroic. otherwise solo challenging
also make sure u turn on global modifiers for atleast 10% extra season xp
so what is the best way to maximize the optimization event
countdowns and retaliations?
i got this weird one last night. does this mean i can literally just print recon data?
i dont have to farm for it?
yeah
that is the most important bp in the game
You are better off crafting those with other mats, don't spend points directly on those
is there a way to mass collect steel ?
However it's better to spend watch points directly on SHD Calibration cuz they're too expensive to craft
where do u turn on that DPS chat feed that i see in so many videos?
This?
Enter > + > Combat Details > DMG Numbers
ooo yep ty!
is there a blueprint for this?
No
you get that from deconstructing mods
goto your watch scavenging points. 1 point will be all you need for whatever that is
has the doubling thing started?
i need a TON of the fillament for opti
not yet. afaik, *visually shows live, but cant confirm
you can set your target loot for skill mods, then set skill mods to autodeconstruct to passively fill printer filament
Oh really? The game says it's live for some reason.
yeah i just claimed 20 and got just 20 worth not 40 🙁
Claimed 20 of what?
Printer Filaments are not doubled.
the watch printer filla ones.
crafted some shd cal as well and some true sons cal and only got normal amounts 🙁
yeah i didnt get double return
but it is showing live so im thinking its bugged out or only specific items are doubled
yeah it def sucks.
SHD Cal and Tactical Assessments should be doubled, however.
i did get double marksman rifle alloy
It's x2 amount of:
- all weapon alloys
- all gear fabrics (holster, backpack, gloves, etc.),
- all faction-based tactical assessments
- SHD Calibration
- Field Recon Data
That's basically it. No other mats are doubled.
I've seen people reporting that they're not getting x2 materials, but I think they just expect werong mats to be doubled.
I cannot check myself unfortunately. 🤣
last time they did it , was getting double exp comps as well
Last time it was Expertise Surge, not Optimization Surge.
yeah, someone took the warning serious when they said mules were being nerfed 😎
fair
yay
Yeah. 🤣
I also made around 60 mules last time we had Expertise Surge because my Field Recon Data ran out really quickly.
this good?
Checked with my alt. Surge event is working and everything's just as intended.
is battle for brookyln worth getting? i got WoNY and enjoyed it but didnt pick up bfb after seeing some reviews covering it negatively
weird.
i really liked it. some of it can be pretty jaring
Here it will always say the initial amount because your regular reward is +1 FRD per Landmark. Always check your in-game chat, the resources get doubled after they are added to your inventory.
F the reviews. It's good and for that price it should be a no-brainer 😄
what are these for?
Its DZ money
where do i use it?
There are DZ vendors at the front of each DZ
They can sell DZ exclusives sometimes so having some is always useful
some of the dz stuff is so expensive haha.
i think im doing well so far. leveling up quick step so i can exp upgtrade it. and finishing off maxing out my gear.
repair skills dont apply to refactor do they?
you can also buy exotic cashes from them with that
repair skills are good if you use a shield build i think for refactor skill damage and haste
you should upgrade chc first
also reload speed at the bottom
Are you killing the small dogs with names
other than safehouses where can i find companion?
Scripted encounters, like the one outside 1040 safehouse.
that one i know. is there any like it?
Other encounters are random. IIRC there are 5 types of them. Search for my guide on Reddit, you'll find the info.
Why do some content creators like Rogue Gold use a female character?
Does it make the hitbox small?
Preference/better looking cosmetics
What abt the aim?
Technically, to look pretty?
Wouldn't know about this. Maybe there's some hidden hitbox difference but it's not something I've ever read or heard off. I highly doubt it really matter if there's any difference in the hitbox between a male and a female character.
yay max dz
A good looking gun that I want to use in place of my st Elmo
damn
what is this from?
the resource cache things from countdown!! opened 4 of them
How tf can I get an elite resource convoy?
wait
How can I get a rescue operation?
you wait lol
Wait hahahaha
I'm not kidding lmfaoo
I know :p
That's how it works in this game. If you need something you wait.
Do some control points to kill time
def getting better.
are the seasonal journey caches supposed to be this cracked?
Old PvP build.
im getting closer.
Find some CHC mods.
yeah i got this one yesterday. its on the chest
nice, i dont think i ever found a 6 percent one
ive never seen one too haha. i got this and i was like "it will do"
Max mods drops from legendaries mostly
Can you post YT links here? I have two retals, one with HE Pesti and one with CoCo Pesti I want to post as a comparison of the two.
The files are too big for Discord though
only if they're not yours
Want to post my retals for me lol
if it's not for advice or help related, it's considered self promo
I wanted to do it as a comparison of the two builds. My YT is like 20 years old and only has like 11 subs as you can tell I don't care about promoting it lol
What's your main take-away from those two builds you wanna compare?
Just how fast each of them get rolling and how CoCo even though it starts out slower I feel it has a higher floor from the start than HE does
CoCo solo ofc takes longer to get to max stacks, that's how it works. The damage ceiling is higher and you will get the highest tick damage
Also showing people how easy it is to solo retal with the builds even with PGC
Will not attract much interest, I can say that from experience. There aren't many players interested in GC
I feel like that is because they don't know how to play GC
And, like myself, some people are visual learners where you can tell them all day how to do something and they will never get it but show them once and they are an expert
Try explaining that on Reddit for instance, gl ^^
It's really weird
Because a lot of people here that's what they will recommend but we're like a very small fraction of the playerbase
Most probably still run oblit/equaliser or even unbreakable
i never touch pgc
If you run a stack-based build you might as well run Equalizer nowadays because the different isn't that much and newer players feel safer
i die in 2 shootz
pgc touches you
it WHAT
feels you
You become the PGC
I even run PGC in my Refactor build because it is that good
freezer is ringing my door hold on
Solo that's OK but for group play try Empathic Resolve
I asked that because I have that and people said that didn't help
It does procc and it helps your team do additional bonus damage
Said healing skills don't matter only amount of DMG
using PGC is like entering into a toxic relationship... just when you think youre done, you realize its way to good to dump. iykyk
They get a decent amount of repair plus bonus dmg
I feel lied too because I crush a bunch of ER chests that would be awesome
So far nobody complained about it when I ran it
With a team that kisses the floor a lot I would personally recommend the Refactor chest tho
So the ER does boost teammates DMG when you heal them with Refactor?
yes
And 2x Hana-U. backpack and whatever
Well damn
Peop-le said it didn't
why you ask here
I can guarantee you it procs
That's why I run this
run force multiplier for the extra 5% amp
-# dont crucify, single source tsd acts as amp
@civic junco
So what I need is a Fenris piece for 10 AR WD and Empathic Resolve
what!?
Why Fenris?
AR WD
-# challenge mode activated
I use Wyvern for skill DMG
You want your skills to do damage, your damage is a bonus but not needed
i get that, but regular skill damage isnt that worth when you stack all skill damage. if you werent using combined arms already i wouldnt bother.. but its just extra damage
Hana U is Skill Haste and that isn't needed on Refactor Turret/Drone
1pc skill haste, 2pcs 10% skill damage
why do you use sacrifice... hsd isnt needed in refactor
30% to ALL DMG
I think refactor chest is more healing than even pgc
force multiplier is the same
Last I checked refactor doesn't proc empathic
That chest gives monster heals
Doesn't hit gun DMG though
But I'd be happy to be proven wrong
See right here
Wish the deflector could heal with refactor too
extra total skill damage > skill damage of wyvern
Oppo views
I had so many ideas squashed 😭
its the same concept as using pgc. min max
Oh nice
@mellow trout is in my camp as just been lied too forever so never checked lol
If you ask randoms on Reddit or wherever you get 200 different opinions on something
Yeah I feel sad because I crushed so many good ER chests thinking it didn't matter
You will also see players who swear on their grandma's grave that repair skills works with Refactor...
When I tested it initially it didn't but it seems they've fixed
💀
No, I asked here
Reddit is a wild place man
For sure, it's the wildlands
So it used to not work and now it does?
AFAIK it always worked
Maybe I just missed the memo
I tested it early on after release of that gear set and it worked
But I'm not 100% sure, whatever, it works now
yeah becuae I used to use ER in my FI builds all the time
Was great before I got The Setup and a viable Scorp
tested early on, its always worked
Was thinking of refactor not working with deflector then
What works? ER?
yes
reflector dreams crushed
Either way, I feel Skill Haste is wasted on Refactor builds
It was gonna be so good man😔
But refractor dream lives on
Tank, heals, AND some damage
Can also use Wyvern and Murakami or Shiny Monkey for skill duration
Just preference at that point
with ninjabike
But I do have the Force Multiplier
Can use that one of course, I don't like it much personally
Aggressive deck noises
time to go carry randoms with fire overclipse
Firedog?
*only around 1100 increase over the wyvern when i just checked
. i feel like we may have had that conversation before
FI chest does more range which is nice but not necessary.
Range?
NM I read it wrong
Since you can only change one, would you change one of the stats or the talent? If so, which?
Lex all drop god rolled
dog protocol
If you want a different talent just pick as needed
Oh is it? I thought it was bad. I'll stick with it then. Thank you.
Killer is recommended for solo play and Measured (your current talent) for group play
Yeah change the Talent only
overclipse protodogs
lmao rivens
although, firedogs rolls off the tongue much better
Sounds spicy
Hellfire Dogs
Firedogs just sounds like you're walking when it's like 40c outside.
Summon your inner sparkles
I found this recently from the way back and how TD2 used to look. I wish I had my old HDD these SS were taken from https://imgur.com/gallery/division-2-rifle-build-rqKPrtF
Does the Sheriff guaranteed drops if im doing someone else's Master for the first time?
(I havent unlocked Master for myself)
Yes
How exactly does accuracy and stability work?
Is accuracy how tight the grouping of your shots are and stability how much recoil there is?
Yes
ACC reduces bloom and Stability reduces kick