ask-td2-community

[kind cove]

The abilities also seem like they are either just not good or extremely basic

I mean look at the last couple exotic weapons

[wispy merlin]

sacrum imperium, with a fitting name for the talent

the trap

[kind cove]

Even the new upcoming gearset, if you think about it, its literally just shoot enemy for more damage

[winter knoll]

Does the focused perk work with the gr9s 8x scope

[fervent lodge]

hey guys whats the max # of blueprints we can have? is it still 488/494? and 5/6 for exotics?

[rancid dirge]

6/6 for exo’s. Not sure abt bp’s. Haven’t done descent in a hot minute.

Exotics: regulus / nemesis / liberty / chatterbox / ridgeways pride / dodge city holster

[next cargo]

Does anybody know when the 25 of 26 comms bug is getting fixed?

[lapis sky]

Just run the mission with someone who hasn't completed it yet and you should be able to get them

@next cargo friend of mine reset the whole thing and got it

[next cargo]

Yeh pass on that. I will wait for the fix

I have run it multiple times and still did not drop for me

[lapis sky]

Sucks

[near moss]

the blueprints for these, is there a quicker way than spamming control points ?

I want the blueprints so I can craft them, cba farming them

[round zephyr]

is chd important for bighorn headshot pvp build?

[cedar schooner]

Control points

[rugged stratus]

Nope, but at least they are good xp

[near moss]

well fck

thanks guys

[rugged stratus]

Technically you can get bp in summit, but it is much slower

[hot ferry]

Does future initiative's "ground control" only apply when IM at full armor or is it applied when anyone has full armor?

[mellow trout]

You have to be at full armour for ground control to be active, teammates have to be at full armour for them to individually gain the damage

[hot ferry]

Alright

[quick fulcrum]

Anyone know where "The Plan" comm is please? As that's the only comm I'm missing for the ManHunr: Vanguard collection

[buoyant gust]

whats your guys thoughts on the JTF in D2

[sudden matrix]

Most people are having to completely restart the manhunt and do the entire thing over to get all comms.

[hot ferry]

Are there 6 peices to chatterbox?

[mellow trout]

3 iirc

[tiny stump]

3 + bp

but only 3 once u have the bp

the components will each only drop in certain zones of the map

[hot ferry]

Alr bcs I'm reading pinned and it has 2 "general location" spots spoken of, being "down town east" and "judiciary square"

[mellow trout]

Yeah just open hyenas chests

[tiny stump]

yes thats important

[mellow trout]

In said areas

Then when you have all 3 parts you run bank headquarters get the key card hidden behind some painting and then open the vault to get the BP in the chest inside

[tiny stump]

it downtown east, federal triangle and judiciary sq im pretty sure

[hot ferry]

I already have loaded canister and modified mods

[mellow trout]

Yep

[tiny stump]

last one you need is in federal triangle

just make sure its hyena crates bc there are another factions lockboxes in that zone too

[quick fulcrum]

Well that sucks got the vanguard trophy though so at least I don't have to worry about that one but completionist wise I will do that so I can get that missing comm, cheers for the help 🙂

[quick fulcrum]

Update: replayed the finale mission and got the plan comm that I was missing 😄

[hot ferry]

Would more people show up in matchmaking for challenging or heroic? (Jefferson trade center)

[remote elbow]

I don't remember exactly where, but it was a named minigun chunga that dropped it for me.

[mellow trout]

generally you won't find many matchmaking regardless

just call for backup

[hot ferry]

Okay

That being said

Whoch would you recommend?

Should I set it on heroic or challenging?

*which

[mellow trout]

if its coyotes you're after you're better off farming countdown

[hot ferry]

I'm after creative mag

[mellow trout]

otherwise play on whatever you're comfortable with

[hot ferry]

I'm comfortable with both I'm just trying to figure which difficulty people would pickup the call to most

[mellow trout]

backup calls go out to everyone regardless of difficulty

[hot ferry]

I'm aware

I'm asking if you think it would be more likely for someone to come to the backup depending on difficulty

[mellow trout]

people will pick it up regardless

[wispy merlin]

can speak for myself, i like to answer calls at heroic and above

that said, i myself don't really shoot for high shepherding level, so that's why i don't answer any call, but some people do, so they answer any call

[sudden matrix]

Well the backup call isn't very accurate in my experience. It'll say one thing but when I join it's something completely different.

[mellow trout]

this as well

[hot ferry]

Just learned being in someone else world when they open a hyena crate I've already opened in my own world it wont give me the contents of the crate

How often do they refresh?

[mellow trout]

same as daily reset

[hot ferry]

Not sure if I should be happy about that or not

What is the drop chance for exotic peices?

[sudden matrix]

You'd probably get it all in a few days really.

[mellow trout]

not sure but you wont need to open very many

[hot ferry]

Well I would sure hope

[mellow trout]

on the plus side you'll probably get a go bag out of it too

[sudden matrix]

Worst luck might be 3-4 opens.

[hot ferry]

I have 2 boxes a day

Already opened 2

So if the luck follows I can get it in 16 hours

[sudden matrix]

Meh it's all RNG, go open a couple boxes for 5-10 minutes then go about your day.

[small quartz]

Whats the best way to farm for a St. Elmo’s? I’ve never gotten it before

[wispy merlin]

AR targeted in countdown

[small quartz]

Which difficulty?

[wispy merlin]

challenging

[small quartz]

Okay thanks

[ionic stratus]

When can I recapture control points without them being recaptured after a few minutes? When the area is no longer labelled "Invasion"?

[rugged stratus]

You can reset them as fast as you clear them if you're aiming to grind shd

[ionic stratus]

No, first I want them to stay green so that fewer world events happen. I'm still in the main game and just about to unlock world tier 5

[sudden matrix]

You want less things to do?

[rugged stratus]

Feed them resources daily @ cp officer

They might still flip, but it's kinda a non issue. You'll be resetting them frequently when you get past wony and want to grind shd/blueprints

[remote elbow]

Has anyone seen The Sacrifice at 30? It doesn't show at Cassie despite it being a Providence piece.

[sudden matrix]

Why would it show at cassie? It's not a DLC item so you should see it at level 30 tho.

[remote elbow]

I'ts currently on sale there for 40's along with her other named items.

[sudden matrix]

30 and 40 vendors are different.

[valid bronze]

Does anyone know why navy plaza is hyenas right now?

[pale meadow]

I think I’m right in saying the CHC cap is 60% right? Does this include the watch?

If I’m at 60% now and only at level 50, am I best to put my offensive levels in to CHD for the time being?

Obviously, I realise they will all be levelled up eventually, but is the short term benefit in something else?

[wispy merlin]

chc cap is 60%, you probably are hitting it because you rolled too many chc attributes on your gear

and no, you still want to get more chc from watch as priority, get chd after you're finished

[unkempt storm]

How many agent characters is my profile allowed to have?

[slim elk]

4

[grizzled apex]

what is strategic alignment, and whats it do

[unkempt storm]

thanks

[sudden matrix]

So you have to ding helmets.

[grizzled apex]

hey, does anyone know if you can bypass the nemesis quest by having a freshly acquired one dropped for you

[mellow trout]

You can

But you won't have the blueprint

[grizzled apex]

idc about the blueprint

thank you though man

follow up question, what has the highest exotic drop rate, and do you know anyone that has a nemesis and some free time

[mellow trout]

iirc snipers are the most common exotics

Each has the same drop chance but there are less snipers

[grizzled apex]

yeah but like, what mission has the best odds of dropping me what i want, an exotic

summit on high difficulty? heroic countdown

[inner tendon]

Targeted Loot is a better chance than any specific mission for farming Exotics.

[grizzled apex]

oh hey riven, how you been

[inner tendon]

hey

[grizzled apex]

so probs sniper target summit

[inner tendon]

Summit with loads of Directives, or Countdown and buy the exotic caches every 2-3 runs.
as long as you do either of those and on Challenging or higher, you're putting out the best chance.

[grizzled apex]

danke

in the meanwhile, im the arizona ranger lmao

[dapper oracle]

where do you use summit keys? i dont see any room to open with these

[west wren]

Summit keys open up the Summit caches that you can find every 3 floors.

Once you're able to enter the elevator to go up to the next floor, look around in the same area where the elevator is. You'll find a room that may be open, closed or locked either by a yellow lock or a yellow power box. Inside the cache room is the cache itself, many resource boxes and usually a key box but it won't drop the actual cache key, only faction and dz keys.

Also, if you wipe, with or without the key, it will be lost but can spawn in a different area

[dapper oracle]

ahhh okay i found it thank you

if i log out will the key be gone too?

[west wren]

I haven't tested that and i don't wanna test myself, hehe

[dapper oracle]

hahaha that makes sense

also, for farming loot, would challenging with 5 directives be better or heroic with no directives?

[west wren]

heroic does generally have a higher goodie drop rate but it really isn't that high of a difference compared to challenging. if you really want good loot from summit, heroic is a good option. as for directives, be careful what you choose and I'm not certain whether directives affect loot drops but they obviously affect xp gain

and in short, i personally find heroic w/ 0 directives better than challenging w/ directives, as stuff like fog of war, fragile armour and ragers should make you take more precautions than you would in heroic w/ 0 directives

[dapper oracle]

thats fair, ill give it a try

[hot ferry]

Whoever said I would get it in 3-4 you were right (creative mag)

Got it on my 4th

[crystal frost]

Did they nerfed the armor/shield?
I used it the other day (big Shield) and I found it to be wrecked way faster than it used to be (since when Legendary difficulty on Manning National Zoo came out)
I used to go in as a full Tank and survived easily with my shield only getting destroyed once or twice, but a couple days ago it was so easily destroyed I just changed to a damage build.

[hot ferry]

Should I open the secret wall if bank headquarters is raided?

Is it a bad idea?

Yeah it was a bad idea

[sudden matrix]

They buffed weapons base damage across the game which means enemies guns got buffed too.

[ionic stratus]

What should I do after Pentagon? Coney Island? I'm still in the main game

[round zephyr]

hi guys, my last ivory key is glitched. i did the hunters at the water park 3 times and got every mask and completed it also 3 times. but the key didnt drop for me any chance how i get the key?

okay thats weird, i came back to the base and the key lays on the ground

[tacit reef]

Either WONY, kenly college, or coney Island

[main briar]

https://old.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1c2wen2/newer_player_what_do_i_do_now/kzcxsuu/
that's everything in chronological order, although obviously you can choose to do whatever you like in any order you please

[hot ferry]

What exactly IS kenly college?

[sudden matrix]

Pain.

[mellow trout]

and immense suffering

[hot ferry]

Please tell me what it actually is 🙏

[sudden matrix]

It's just a thing idk how to describe it. You go and do the stuff it's timed and boring and you go yay when done.

Just go and do it to find out really.

[mellow trout]

its like a mission

but painfully elongated and puzzle ridden

[wispy merlin]

it's an expedition

[mellow trout]

the directives are cool though

[tacit reef]

It's a 3 mission expedition, and you try to figure out what happened there I think, I've only done it once

[fervent lodge]

hey guys quick question im reading a buncha diff things about how to get ridgeway pride exotic pieces from summit

is it
20% chance to get ""Vest: Normal Body Armor"" on floor 1-10
20% chance to get ""Vest: Hard Shoulder Pads"" on floor 11-20
20% chance to get ""Vest: Challenging Hunting Knife"" on floor 21-50
20% chance to get ""Vest: Heroic Flag Patch"" on floor 51-80
20% chance to get ""Vest: Legendary Dog Tags"" on floor 81-100"

OR

1-20 body armor on normal
20-40 shoulder pads on hard
40-60 hunting knife on challenging
60-80 flag patch on heroic
80-100 dog tags on leg

and some saying difficulty doesnt matter?

[rugged stratus]

its every 20 floor section there is a piece. its actually in name of the pieces where they come from. difficulty isnt a factor anymore.
so 1-20, 21-40, 41-60, 61-80, 81-100

its pretty much guaranteed to drop pieces in the first cache you open in that range as long as you dont already have the piece and dont have a ridgeways pride chest in inventory that someone may have dropped for you

[fervent lodge]

is it ok that i moved the ridgeway i have into an alt inv? and out of my stash?

[rugged stratus]

itll keep dropping pieces in the future if you move then chest into an alts inventory...

[rugged stratus]

yeah exactly

[fallow inlet]

Hey Souless, Local

[rugged stratus]

Good afternoon Saph

[grizzled apex]

i nemesis actually any good, or is it a meme weapon meant for "haha large number"

[sudden matrix]

Nem is a chad weapon and can be used all the time. It can and will hit the highest numbers aside the tac 50 on it's first shot making it great at stacking BUT if you are good at partial charges you can crack shots off just as fast as non determined HH once you are good.

[grizzled apex]

so its the kinda gun thats hard to fully master, but man once you're good you're a force to be reckoned with?

[sudden matrix]

Yeah and it's honestly crazy to see people who are really good play with it. I try to practice legendary runs with it and it can be a ton of fun but you've gotta click heads and you've gotta know you damage and how far to charge to 1 shot.

[grizzled apex]

good to know

im gonna get it in the hopes that knowing each shot counts and counts for life and death, cause of how slow a heavy follow up is, will improve my aim, cause with mantis my aim suuuucks

while im here, have you got any advice for improving my aim?

i want to be a sniper but i can only reliably hit like, 2/3 shots on moving targets, and only half of those are good, solid heads

[sudden matrix]

I mean 2/3 on moving is pretty good. Aside of that I do have suggestions for people who want to have better aim, namely looking at your games sensitivity/DPI and making sure it's not so high a micro movement spins you half way around.

[grizzled apex]

i play on 1600 dpi, do you think thats way too much?

[sudden matrix]

It is preference at the end of the day but if you move your mouse from one side of the mouse pad to the other and do more than a full 360 while aiming you are not making actually aiming easier for yourself.

[grizzled apex]

thank you for all your advice man, i appreciate the help

do you know if there's a setting that outlines enemies? im a bit colorblind and enemies keep blending into cover, mantis' scope helps but sometimes i miss people

[sudden matrix]

Yeah it's just one of those things where if you need to make a correction in game of half a head width and moving your mouse .5 MM does more than that how can you reliably make that correction ya know.

[sudden matrix]

There are color blind options but they don't help with anything other than hud elements.

[grizzled apex]

damn

the hud elements are fine, its just that things are often so damn dark that i cant tell enemy from wall at times

[sudden matrix]

Maybe turn shadows off?

[grizzled apex]

maybe, ill screw with some settings and try it out, thank you man

[small quartz]

What are “heavy weapons enemies” and where do I find them in free roam? I’m doing gunner specialization quests

[inner tendon]

You know how sometimes there's a Black Tusk guy with a minigun wandering around the LZ (open world map) firing at a group of 4 green friendlies? That.

Just do a few bounties, you'll see them around between.

[small quartz]

Oh so the bullet tank guys ?

[inner tendon]

basically any enemy that walks slowly and has a ton of health.

minigun for BT, LMG for hyena, cleaners flame thrower, true sons chunky grenade launcher, etc.

[small quartz]

Okay, thanks

[thorn hedge]

I normally snipe with 400

I jump between 1600 and 400

[grizzled apex]

i found a solution man, spotter drone

[small quartz]

Where can I find Ivory Keys?

[wispy merlin]

killing hunters

the ones you have to do puzzles for

[small quartz]

Okay, thanks

[fresh vault]

Does this involve FINALLY increasing the stash? Even if like 50 slots? And I dare someone say "you have junk" go on stream and tell me which pieces are "junk" or unusable.

[thorn hedge]

if its not in a loadout or an exotic is junk

[fresh vault]

Yeah, could use more loadouts

[thorn hedge]

definitely not lol

[fresh vault]

You want me to point out 10 loadouts right quick? Raid (let's assume you only use one loadout for raids and not many), a tank loadout, a dps loadout, let's say one is strikers, one is umbra I guess, you have one skill loadout, let's say turret drone anti-disrupt, a sniper loadout, let's say one two PVP loadouts, you're almost out of loadouts

According to you EVERYTHING ELSE is junk, so you never try out other stuff, you just always play the same roles in pvp/raids, you never try anything, you just run the same 10 loadouts all the time, rest is junk

[narrow kraken]

anyone know what the unmarked shd supplies in federal emergency bunker are?

[thorn hedge]

just get a second character for pvp

simple problem simple solution

[fresh vault]

🙄

Or... or... simple solution, increase stash/inventory because it hasn't been increased in ages and a LOT more gear has came out since it was set at 300, aaaand people won't have to change characters and lose on stats and what not to PVP because that makes zero sense

[cedar stag]

What eevee is saying is pretty much the standard atm

[fresh vault]

Seems to be a standard workaround something that could actually be easily fixed.

[thorn hedge]

or just dont have 5 pvp loadouts or get rid of the loadouts you dont need

[cedar stag]

True

[fresh vault]

Nah, you just normalizing a bad practice.

[thorn hedge]

didnt realize hoarding was considered good practice lol

[cedar stag]

Thats a horrible take lol

[fresh vault]

Can't tell the community "here's new sets, try new things!" and on the same breath tell people to throw their god rolls out or play different characters because you can't do all in one

[thorn hedge]

just get rid of what you dont use

[cedar stag]

I have 16 pvp builds and every single one of them is a viable meta

And I could make more

[thorn hedge]

i mean iirc the devs did say they werent gonna expand because of backend issues

[fresh vault]

Yeah, that's a load of bs.

Quoted wrong post

[thorn hedge]

you dont have to agree with me but it wont change anything

[cedar stag]

I don't think more loadouts or stash space is a problem. To argue it is just weird. But for the time being

[fresh vault]

You don't have to disagree with me, it won't change anything.

[cedar stag]

Make a 2nd character

[fresh vault]

My problem with this is that at some point I will forget what are the options, I'll have to switch between characters to check "OH YEAH, this might work with whatever"

[thorn hedge]

thats what i do, makes everything cleaner

[fresh vault]

I'll just shove stuff on the second character which let's call "might build something with this someday" and never touch it

Which is probably what most if not what everyone with two characters do

[thorn hedge]

thats hoarding lmao

[fresh vault]

Yeah, whatever buddy

[cedar stag]

Well the thing is,this games meta constantly changes

[fresh vault]

If you can't get 300 items with god rolls that are potentially great items, you have an issue, not me 😂

[cedar stag]

As far as pvp

[thorn hedge]

i can get godrolls i just dont stash them for "ill use them later" which never comes

[fresh vault]

How does it "never come"? The metagame is CONSTANTLY changing, either because people adapt, because build A beats build B but build B beats build C which beats build A

AND then there's balancing, like reducing hive range and what not can change the meta right away

[thorn hedge]

you dont get it

[cedar stag]

Long story short make a 2nd character, farm some lvls to max out your specializations

You'll be glad you did it

[fresh vault]

Yeah, I don't get it 😂
Whatever buddy

Get a second character is a workaround a bad system, shouldn't be normalized

[cedar stag]

I don't think you're wrong by saying that. It's definitely a workaround

But for the time being, that's how it is lol

[fresh vault]

It's been a workaround for maybe a year

300 is NOT a lot with the current sets in the game

Like, 50 of those are god rolled exotics 😂

Add god rolled sets? Let's say you're at 120~130

[cedar stag]

90% of exotics can be deconstructed tbf lol

[fresh vault]

Well, you're not wrong, but, what if you like to collect 1 of each exotic, saying that's hoarding for a "collector's" item

Dunno, doesn't sit well

[cedar stag]

Okay so we're hoarding

😂😂

[fresh vault]

Exactly

"It's a backend issue"

That's such bullcrap, make a different storage for exotics, THERE, problem instantly solved. Make a different one for sets, BOOM, you won't "ever" need more storage

[cedar stag]

I get what you mean

But you have 2 conflicting motives lol

[fresh vault]

How's that?

[cedar stag]

Hmm how do I say this. This game is "meta-warped" to an extent that you pretty much have to accept things for what they are

And completely disregard what is considered shit

[thorn hedge]

its elitism behaviour

[fresh vault]

Oh, I'm aware, but that shouldn't be a thing

[cedar stag]

The item may be god rolled

But it can be absolutely useless lol

[fresh vault]

I'm fully aware some stuff is just "I'll run this for shs and giggles" and then there's only a few select sets that will do ANYTHING in PVP / Legendary

I mean, if that's all I'm building for, I can cut my stash down to like 100 RIGHT NOW

[cedar stag]

Buuuut, I also feel where you're coming from

[fresh vault]

But if i'm just gonna run that, after ,how long have we been playing TD2 for? If i'm not trying different stuff and what not, like, what's the point of keep playing?

[cedar stag]

Because after project resolve it was nice having certain things god rolled in my stash that were entirely useless before

I get it. Make 3 other mule characters lol

Thats 450 slots

Just beating around the bush atp. If they implement it, they implement it

But for the time being, that's what you've gotta do

I got tired of balancing pvp/pve loadouts on one character and bit the bullet

You might like it. It makes things very organized and you know what's on one, because it's all pvp related, while the other is for pve

[violet veldt]

Is there anyway I can do full previous manhunts?

I know you can do the main misisons etc but feel like ive missed the WHOLE story

[lament bison]

@thorn hedge It has to be a bug... if not then idk

I still have the project active til this day

[thorn hedge]

i mean whats telling you that you are missing one

[lament bison]

Top right.

[fresh vault]

Go to the current Manhunt and press "Legacy Manhunts"

It's glitched. Some people have the same glitch with apparel and had it for over a year, it never went away.

[thorn hedge]

wdym with apparel

[lament bison]

I'm bothered cuz of completion...

There's a bounty and some upgrades at Haven

[fresh vault]

Exclamation mark above, but there's not a single item that you can see with an exclamation mark on it. This happened a while ago when they added liek 4 uncoded items to the game, as random drops, they had error names, and if you accidentally picked one of them, it would stay invisible in your inventory, meaning you can never mouse over, meaning you forever get stuck with the ! in your inventory and it has been reported a f-ton of times and it drives people crazy because it hasn't been solved for close to two years.

[digital chasm]

Anybody know how long the game will be down?

[grizzled apex]

is sanctum imperium good? whats it even do

[thorn hedge]

its awful

[grizzled apex]

whats it do

[thorn hedge]

functionally pretty much nothing

[grizzled apex]

that isnt helpful in the slightest

[thorn hedge]

is this?

The Trap
Tags enemies when in scope (maximum 10). Killing any marked target with a headshot applies 10 second Burn Status Effect and gives a 50% (20% in PVP modes) Speed Movement decrease on all other targets. Cooldown is 30 seconds.

Killing another enemy with a headshot shortens the cooldown for 10 seconds. Targets are marked after 1 seconds in scope.

[grizzled apex]

thats incredibly helpful, thank you

also that seems awesome wdym, is it one of those low damage MMR's like dread edict?

[thorn hedge]

its dogshit

speed movement decrease is worthless and the burn does little to no damage

the gun also does little to no damage

and you need to be locked onto the enemy for a full second

[grizzled apex]

yeah? it usually takes time to line up a shot

[thorn hedge]

its a semi auto sniper

not a bolt action

[grizzled apex]

oh like the dragunov?

[thorn hedge]

idk what that is

[grizzled apex]

thats shit

[thorn hedge]

thats what i said

[grizzled apex]

what does proficiency level do?

[wispy merlin]

it's for expertise

[grizzled apex]

which does what exactly

i just dumped a bunch of materials into leveling my favorite smg, but i dont actually know what it does

[wispy merlin]

expertise gives you weapon damage bonus and varying bonuses for skills, and a lackluster bonus for armor

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/urjz2f/a_quick_guide_to_the_expertise_system_for_those/

[grizzled apex]

oh, thanks

so just use a gun a bunch and the gun gets better?

[high glade]

You gain proficiency with items by using them, donating them for proficiency, or donating resources to level up proficiency. Once you have leveled up your proficiency with an item, you can spend resources to put proficiency upgrades on them that add stats. For example, a weapon might have weapon damage or an armor pieces might have % armor.

[grizzled apex]

oh, so its just the reworked optimization system?

[high glade]

I'm not sure actually, haven't been playing long enough to know what it was before they reworked it. It's basically just bonus stats, though.

[grizzled apex]

long ago, you just spent resources directly to upgrade the stats on your gun

so every gun could become a god roll, because of the tinker and optimize mechanics, you could adjust a talent, tweak that one stat to dtooc, max it all out, whatever you wanted

[wispy merlin]

no, you use all the stuff you can to be proficient on them, which raises the overall level cap on expertise, at this point you haven't done anything to upgrade your guns

[grizzled apex]

well yeah, i didnt even understand that i COULD upgrade my guns in any way other than tinkering until just now

[wispy merlin]

but then increasing that level cap lets you upgrade your gun to that level. level 15 expertise on a gun is the same as increasing weapon damage by 15% which is the same as a red core

[grizzled apex]

oh nice

[wispy merlin]

you then have to spend more resources to upgrade that gun. the proficiency is just something you do beforehand to increase the level cap

[grizzled apex]

so i have a level 9 m1928, so now its 9% better?

[wispy merlin]

level 9 proficiency or expertise?

[grizzled apex]

uhh, good question

[wispy merlin]

proficiency has no effect on your weapon strength, expertise does

[grizzled apex]

i upgraded the gun itself, if that matters, not the overall SMG category

the one you can dump materials or other copies of the gun into to improve it

[wispy merlin]

both proficiency and expertise fit what you said

[grizzled apex]

shit

[wispy merlin]

does it say +9% weapon damage

[grizzled apex]

you do it at the tinkering table

[wispy merlin]

yeah i get it's confusing

if it says 9 in a shield icon

it's expertise 9

or as i like to call it, +9

[grizzled apex]

do i want it to be proficiency or expertise

and whats the difference between proficiency and expertise

[wispy merlin]

read what i wrote above again

[wispy merlin]

_ _

• using stuff increases proficiency, which increases level cap on expertise
• increasing expertise increases "strength", which on weapons means more weapon damage

[wispy merlin]

that's proficiency

[grizzled apex]

this is what i dumped materials into

[wispy merlin]

as it says

[grizzled apex]

so that does literally nothing?

[wispy merlin]

so you haven't done anything yet

but keep doing it

you need to be proficient in many things to increase expertise level cap

[grizzled apex]

what happens once it hits level 10

[wispy merlin]

you become proficient in it, and it's allowed to be upgraded

before it's level 10 you cannot upgrade it

[grizzled apex]

so i cant improve it yet, once i hit level 10 with it i can start dumping points into the gun itself and not just researching the gun

[high glade]

You can then spend resources to upgrade it, yes.

[wispy merlin]

i will say only expertise guns you're sure are good

so don't expertise a ump45 with swap speed for example

[grizzled apex]

like my m1928

[mellow trout]

Ehh you ought to spend mats on something better

Expertise gets very expensive

[grizzled apex]

but i love my m1928

[wispy merlin]

also, proficiency is best leveled by just naturally using stuff

you should only donate mats for exotics and named items you don't use

if it's something you use a lot like your m1928, you'll naturally gain proficiency on it because you use it

so i don't advise spending mats for proficiency

spend them on things you know you'll never use like imperial dynasty

[grizzled apex]

i did not know that before i dumped the mats, but good to know for the future

[wispy merlin]

yeah just ask questions man

[grizzled apex]

so is there a better sniper than mantis while im working on getting nemesis?

[wispy merlin]

model 700

[grizzled apex]

i want something that hits harder and preferably has more zoom, i find it easier to hit stuff when im zoomed in more

[wispy merlin]

that's the scope

the scope is independent of the gun

[grizzled apex]

like ekim's long stick?

[wispy merlin]

yeah

ekim is just a named model 700

you can just mod the scope to be 12x or 15x with digital scope from sharpshooter

nemesis at max zoom is 15x anyway

[grizzled apex]

is the SR1 any good?

[wispy merlin]

yes, top tier

[grizzled apex]

even better than the m700?

[wispy merlin]

srs family, sr-1, model 700 family are top tier ones rn

strictly speaking the wooden model 700 is the best in terms of base damage

but you don't need too much base damage, sr-1 or srs already can one-shot legendary 4 man

[grizzled apex]

good to know, just pick any of those things and im good to go

[wispy merlin]

one-shotting legendary 4 man elites is the benchmark

[grizzled apex]

whats a good talent to go for?

[wispy merlin]

determined if you hate aiming

[grizzled apex]

ideally i want to improve my aim

[wispy merlin]

then you don't want determined

[grizzled apex]

something that benefits nailing a headshot perhaps?

[wispy merlin]

you can use preservation for some healing, or optimist/ranger/behind you for more damage

future perfect also is good for some skill tier, helps your decoy or fixer drone or any skill you use

[grizzled apex]

isnt behind you just making my SR-1 a mini mantis?

[inner tendon]

Mantis has the benefit of actually recharging the Decoy skill on kill, I'd suggest Ranger over that.

[grizzled apex]

ok, so just run ranger on any of those sniper rifles and im good

with all the classic stuff, doot, sniper damage, headshot damage

[inner tendon]

Pretty much.
definitely go for sr1/srs though, that mag reload is :chefskiss:

[grizzled apex]

sr1 also looks sick as shit

[wispy merlin]

sr-1 is what most people prefer right now

you'll enjoy it

[inner tendon]

it technically does slightly higher damage, but both are good

[grizzled apex]

thanks for all the advice

[inner tendon]

the srs covert looks amazing btw.

[grizzled apex]

and what, just run regulus as my sidearm?

[wispy merlin]

you can yeah

welcome to headhunter world

[grizzled apex]

is there a skill that gives me more damage the longer im scoped in?

[wispy merlin]

not really

[grizzled apex]

ooh my DCG gives handling, tis a good day indeed

[grizzled apex]

shit i mean talent, whatever the gun ability is

[wispy merlin]

also consider taking off the scope on your sniper, it actually makes you shoot faster

[grizzled apex]

i could, but then i lose a LOT of headshot damage, and i get 0 zoom

[wispy merlin]

that hsd isn't a big deal

[grizzled apex]

im better at shooting when i have more zoom

[wispy merlin]

it's really only the zoom

once you practice well enough you'll want to be able to shoot faster

[grizzled apex]

hey whats a good perk for my bag, vigilance?

[wispy merlin]

yes

[grizzled apex]

how do i get the gift, which has vigilance +?

[wispy merlin]

the gift is dz only, but you don't want providence

you want airaldi or habsburg

more headshot damage isn't needed for mmr. you want more weapon damage

[high glade]

Is it? I thought it dropped everywhere. Maybe I'm mistaken it for something else.

[wispy merlin]

the gift is dz only yeah

well, named cache too

[high glade]

Yea, that lol.

[wispy merlin]

it won't drop in countdown is basically what i'm saying

[inner tendon]

Sacrifice is the one most people get it confused with.

that will drop in CD.

[high glade]

Maybe. 🤔 For some reason I was thinking I had got it from Countdown before.

[inner tendon]

well it is occasionally available at the Countdown store and via Named Item caches.

but not Countdown itself, no DZ locked item is.

[high glade]

It's late. I'm gonna blame that. 😂

[inner tendon]

Div2 does like to overcomplicate things.

"its only from the DZ" means "countdown store/named item/conflict/dz/manhunt rogues/sometimes even legacy season caches.

[high glade]

Tbh I probably opened a cache and got it at some point, but it mixed with my Countdown loot and I thought I got it from there. Who knows.

[grizzled apex]

oh, then what is a good named backpack for this kinda build

since i use a spotter drone, would flatline be better than ranger?

[wispy merlin]

you don't need a named backpack

[grizzled apex]

But I thought they had better talents

[wispy merlin]

not really

named items and exotics do not mean "good"

[grizzled apex]

Hm

Then what kinda talent should I use

[wispy merlin]

you have to weigh the cost of the perfect talent too, because most of the time that talent is on a bad brand

[grizzled apex]

And is there a brand that gives mmr damage

[wispy merlin]

airaldi, yes, and use vigilance talent

[grizzled apex]

So arialdi backpack with vig

[wispy merlin]

yes

[grizzled apex]

Thanks dien

[wispy merlin]

headshot damage + weapon handling

[tough marsh]

We dodged a bullet with Massive putting perfect talents on random brand sets. Fwiw we could've had PGC on a 5.11 chest piece. Now that would've been a proper Sacrifice

[grizzled apex]

What's 5.11 do

[tough marsh]

Nothing useful

[grizzled apex]

Nothing?

And headhunter is better than gc, right

[tough marsh]

Headhunter is a prerequisite for a sniper build

[grizzled apex]

Ok just double checking

And then use all the normal stuff, dcg with regulus, or nem once I have it, punch drunk, fox, vigialdi backpack, and contractors gloves

With headshot damage on all mod slots

[dapper oracle]

whats the fastest way to farm blueprints?

[mellow trout]

There isn't one

You just farm level 3/4 control points

Just pick whichever control point you like best

[dapper oracle]

okay thanks

[remote elbow]

I take it the raid bp's are 1 per run?

[sand ocean]

You mean the 8 man raid exclusive exotics?

[hot ferry]

Health

It gives you health

[light quest]

So do I keep collecting items and mark them as junk and it fill faster or is there another way, just checking

[thorn hedge]

Mark as junk

[light quest]

Alrighty 😁👍

[near moss]

hello guys, what is the fastest way to farm credits please ?

[narrow matrix]

Bounties

Otherwise while fast if you have them… I find it to be wasteful unless you’re in a pinch (use scavenging points on your watch)

Some people also farm countdown, loot everything as junk and sell it to a vendor

[remote elbow]

Are bounties a better option than selling loot? (In a Credit emergency)

[inner tendon]

The order you should deal with loot is generally accepted to be:
Keep if good > Recal Library > Donate to Expertise > Junk > Sell.

[light quest]

Hmmm if you can waste the bounties fast for challenging of you have the right build and heroic may take a lil longer

I did 10 challenging within 40 mins or so then a few people helped me with the heroic ones 😁👍 thank to them

[thorn hedge]

mate was asking if there was a quicker way to donate items than junking them

[inner tendon]

They were asking if selling loot was a viable way to gain credits.

You may have too many people blocked.

[thorn hedge]

oh

sorry just woke up brain fried

also i woke up with the worst allergies known to man (and fox)

[narrow matrix]

In my opinion yes because you get more xp for public executions and the bounty itself which has faction target loot exotic drop rate and chameleon drop rate

[inner tendon]

yeah my neighbours planted some super allergy plants recently and I can relate.

I've not had that side of the house open for a month.

[thorn hedge]

i blame the bees

[inner tendon]

No, leave bees alone. Bees are good.

I blame them for chasing trends.

[thorn hedge]

bumblebees are fun i pet them

carpenter bees are just, in all offense, dumb

[grizzled apex]

No the real bastards are hornets

They don't even do anything helpful, all they are is annoying asshats that sting you for no reason

[blazing timber]

What about busy little bee?

[thorn hedge]

dont disrupt the busy bee

[grizzled apex]

What does busy little bee even do

[blazing timber]

Ok I will use shock

[thorn hedge]

way more than its credited for

[grizzled apex]

Yes but what does it do

[blazing timber]

Increase damage by a dumb amount

[grizzled apex]

Just saying "nothing" or "a lot" doesn't explain its perk

[thorn hedge]

Busy Little Bee
Each shot to a different target will give 1 stack – up to 10 max, with each stack giving 20% Weapon Damage increase.
Stacks will activate once the weapon is switched and will last for 10 seconds. Changing weapon again during the said 10 seconds will cancel the buff.

[grizzled apex]

So it's a dps pistol? Sounds awesome, how do I get one

[thorn hedge]

its not usable in most cases

[blazing timber]

It increases damage of your other weapons

[blazing timber]

Who said that

[thorn hedge]

i just did

its damage is abysmal lol

[blazing timber]

Than I will agree

If you know how to use it nope

[grizzled apex]

Wait, can I use this to stack a bunch of damage and then swap to my sniper to deal some boogooo bullshit headshot damage?

[blazing timber]

Yeah

[grizzled apex]

Ok that is kinda cool

[blazing timber]

IG an M700 can outperform nemesis with this thing theoretically but won't be practical

[grizzled apex]

Also, what's a good exotic for a sniper build? I've been told to never use coyotes

[thorn hedge]

theoretically yes practically hell no

[cedar schooner]

for gear, there's not really one that's super worthwhile.

[grizzled apex]

Is it possible to reroll Sawyers kneepads to get a red core on them?

[thorn hedge]

all attributes on exo gear pieces are static

[grizzled apex]

Damnit

I gotta have something exotic

[thorn hedge]

no you dont

[amber snow]

Isn't next season knee pads not static

[thorn hedge]

idfk i didnt pts

[grizzled apex]

Exotics are these game changing effects and unique items, there has to be something that can work

[thorn hedge]

not well

youll end up doing less damage just to have the piece

[blazing timber]

Most of the exotics are meh the top exotic weapons being Elmo Oreo Scorpio Nemesis Regulus

[grizzled apex]

Oreo?

[grizzled apex]

What's the oreo?

[clever fjord]

Ouroboros
An exotic smg obtained from the incursion

[rugged stratus]

Tbf. 1 BLB stack is 20% amp... I dont see how that would be impractical. Actually easier than using a pistol to proc sledge

[clever fjord]

But far the best dps

[grizzled apex]

Oh that thing?

That thing sucks

[clever fjord]

Whatever suits you

[thorn hedge]

counterpoint you can run sledge with kard custom

get more use out of it than actually trying to weapon swap

[rugged stratus]

The only problem I see with BLB is that other exo weapons would probably be in use..elmo/oreo/reg

[thorn hedge]

the weapon swap is hella inconvenient

[clever fjord]

Just put swap speed /s

[rugged stratus]

Same process. Swap weapon to pistol to proc, then back to main to deal damage

[thorn hedge]

you can use a sledge kard for more than just damage boost

[rugged stratus]

BLB you dont have to wait for a grenade

[rugged stratus]

Not really. It's good for an extra charge on revive, but on dps, its not much more than that

Also on sniper. Not much more than an extra revive charge

I think BLB could be good on a sniper build tho.
You'll already have a ton of handling so swap speed would actually be increased. it could let you start your chain on a heroic 4man elite.
Wouldn't be a constant use item, but a good item to get a few stacks. 1stack out performs spotter
2stack out perform glass
3stack exceeds perfect focus

Pretty easy to get a couple stacks

[remote elbow]

I can't really think of an exotic armour piece I would use with a sniper build

[blazing timber]

Doesn't work for mini tank marauders and non armoured/plated npcs

[grizzled apex]

whats perfect focus?

[rugged stratus]

Airaldi named chest talent. Pristine example.

[grizzled apex]

That's really cool

I tend to hard scope for entire encounters if possible, that may be better than HH on a dedicated nemesis build

Cause nemesis is too slow for reliably stacking up hh isn't it?

[rugged stratus]

Can try it out. If it's getting the job done that's all that really matters.
Best damage with HH obv, but a lot of times at full stacks it can be overkill

Easy to farm piece in cd. It used to be pretty widely used on dps builds as well.

[clever fjord]

Shield peek 🥹

[grizzled apex]

I'll try it out, most of the time I miss and lose the stack anyway

[thorn hedge]

on sniper youre running either nem or mantis loll

[rugged stratus]

No. I dont run either

But kard still useless outside of its talent and a revive hive

[grizzled apex]

I use a ranger's sr1

I don't like mantis

Mantis has no zoom, only 8x magni, 12-16x is where it's at

[rugged stratus]

Mantis is a solid gun. Not sure if scope is still broken tho... I would probably be using it if I didnt prefer ezpz determined

[grizzled apex]

I just can't enjoy it

[mellow trout]

they fixed it a little while back iirc

[grizzled apex]

Sure it hits harder, but that damage doesn't matter if you can't hit a damn thing

[rugged stratus]

Nice

[grizzled apex]

Thanks for all your advice fellas

[mellow trout]

mantis is a very fun gun with the decoy but muh determined

[grizzled apex]

Determined is lame, I want to improve my aim, not crutch

[rugged stratus]

So even wih determined you're still gonna need to be able to make headshots when you run into a helmet/skill proxy than needs to be hit

[mellow trout]

yeah determined is cheese but only to an extent

you need to know what to do when dropping stacks etcetera

[rugged stratus]

It's easy and they have had many chances to try and fix. Idgaf if it's considered cheese tbh. F10 was considered cheese, but I took a lot of shd out of there too

[mellow trout]

yeah if they wanted to fix it they would've at this point

[rugged stratus]

But yeah, red bar hyena rusher can f up your day if you can make the follow up shots

[thorn hedge]

sledge flashbang

[grizzled apex]

question local, have you got the nemesis

[rugged stratus]

Yeah

[grizzled apex]

are you busy today

[thorn hedge]

seriously sledge flashbang is a lifesaver for sniping

[rugged stratus]

Sledge can be any pistol or secondary weapon.

[thorn hedge]

but you were saying blb

which is a secondary

[clever fjord]

Lefty/stage left

[thorn hedge]

wait so what loadout are you proposing

[rugged stratus]

Lefty/stage left better sledge anyways. If main a sniper

[thorn hedge]

that sounds cursed

prolly cuz it is

[grizzled apex]

im saying nemesis with perfect focus and a headshots build

[mellow trout]

I wonder if you could one shot named enemies in groups with enough buffs

[thorn hedge]

nemesis with focus???

[clever fjord]

Always have a sledge in all your builds.
They come in handy so many times

[mellow trout]

dont use focus

[grizzled apex]

yes, i would prefer higher initial damage to sustained damage

[rugged stratus]

I'm saying BLB would be a good pistol choice because it's free damage buff.

[grizzled apex]

i will be using focus just to try it

[mellow trout]

headhunter is the way

[thorn hedge]

im saying BLB is literally a pain in the ass to proc

[grizzled apex]

ive been using headhunter, honestly not loving it

[mellow trout]

you won't like MMR builds then

cuz 95 percent use chainkiller or another headhunter chest

[clever fjord]

You can check the damage difference between then and decide which is better for you

[thorn hedge]

you cant run sniper without headhunter

[grizzled apex]

thank you NB

[clever fjord]

If You want big damage HH will provide that
Simple as that

[rugged stratus]

No different than sledge... I've used blb many times. It's easy to spam off a couple shots

[mellow trout]

the other 5 percent are pvp stuff with sacrifice

[thorn hedge]

you dont use sledge as a primary thing

you use sledge when youre boutta die

or as a group buff

sorry just saved my leg TB team with a flashbang sledge

[clever fjord]

Only reason for that is that it isn't guaranteed (enemies go out of radius) is limited to 7 tries.
Blb you just...shoot

[blazing timber]

Bruh didn't invite me

[mellow trout]

someone told me flashbang and foam don't proc sledge

[thorn hedge]

if you miss 7 flashs thats a skill issue

[clever fjord]

Foam doesn't iirc

[mellow trout]

oof

[grizzled apex]

sledge enjoyer here, flashes not only do proc it, they're the best tool for procing it imo, since enemies stop moving when flashed

[rugged stratus]

You think I'm suggesting someone uses BLB as primary?
It would be good for an initial damage boost when starting a chain on a sniper build..

[blazing timber]

You can miss 7 concussion though

[thorn hedge]

im suggesting that BLB doesnt help out

[rugged stratus]

Your suggestion is wrong tho.

[mellow trout]

they have big radius but incendiaries proc constantly

[thorn hedge]

damn didnt realize blb makes targets unable to shoot you

[rugged stratus]

20% amp for 1 tapping something is kinda big

[grizzled apex]

oh good point

[thorn hedge]

not if you already 1 tap everythuing

[grizzled apex]

i didnt even consider that

i do thing its better to run marksman for sniper builds tho, 15% extra HSD just for being a marksman

[wispy merlin]

sledge is the difference between regulus popping or not popping chunga helmet

[mellow trout]

of course

[thorn hedge]

we arent talking about that

[wispy merlin]

i know

[mellow trout]

the drone the rifle and the bonuses are super neat

[wispy merlin]

but still, headhunter

[mellow trout]

but for a dedicated support survivalist is goated

[grizzled apex]

the drone too, its super convenient for the colorblind

[blazing timber]

With ninjabike

[wispy merlin]

no

[grizzled apex]

i swear just having that drone out makes my accuracy go through the roof

[mellow trout]

the breaking point ninjabike builds are coming

[blazing timber]

With 3 pcs hf and 1 pcs 5.11

[grizzled apex]

hey deck, are you busy presently?

[rugged stratus]

Kind of a dumb discussion. Blb is easy free damage that isnt hard to utilize, its about the same to utilize sledge if that's the only point. You can also put a stronger sledge as a secondary weapon , or a regular sledge on preferred backup weapon and still be able to benefit from BLB buff if needed.

[civic forge]

How do I invite someone to my group if he doesn’t have the expansion

[grizzled apex]

i dont think you can tbh, i think you gotta join him

[rugged stratus]

Yes, I'm working at the bonsai factory repotting trees 😭

[grizzled apex]

the what?

i didnt even know bonsai factories existed

[thorn hedge]

mate thinks bonsai trees just spawn in

[narrow matrix]

Does overclock work for you ?

If you have it

[rugged stratus]

😆 I work with plants irl. It's not actual bonsai, but I do a lot of training

[grizzled apex]

well i thought they were grown, not manufactured

[mellow trout]

I know they fixed hermano at least

[grizzled apex]

im gonna go get focus, you said its called Pristine Example?

[wispy merlin]

yes

[rugged stratus]

Yeah. CD target airaldi and itll drop withing a round or 2

[wispy merlin]

from airaldi brand

[grizzled apex]

named caches, CD, chestplate?

so wait should i target chestpieces in general or specifically Arialdi Holdings

[rugged stratus]

Just airaldi

Smaller pool, you'll get it faster

[grizzled apex]

heroic countdown, just grind and target arialdi, thank you

people say this combo is no good, but they say that about a lot of stuff, ill try it out and see how i like it

[mellow trout]

because generally it's not

you have to stay scoped in for about a century and if you scope out it's gone

[grizzled apex]

ill give it a shot and see how i like it, i generally hardscope al ot and tunnel vision anyway

i got a different style of sniping, more sedentary and focused than the quick crackshots you normally see

[mellow trout]

tunnel vision is definitely something you need to train out of you

[grizzled apex]

no

i like it

[mellow trout]

too much shit going on to focus on 1 add

perhaps but you're certainly going to struggle on a lot of encounters with enclosed spaces and big add spawns

[rugged stratus]

@wispy merlin do you still have that video of walking around keeping focus proc

[wispy merlin]

#td2-build-advice message

[mellow trout]

that shit made me dizzy

[rugged stratus]

First time gave me a seizure, I'm desensitized now tho 😅

[tight maple]

There is a flag between Russia and Spain that is similar to Denmark but with a yellow cross, idk what flag it is.

[inner tendon]

Seems to be a kinda unofficial flag of the "swedish speaking fins".
(the one above the Australian flag, if I'm reading it right.

[grizzled apex]

hey riven, is it wrong that i prefer focus to headhunter on a sniping build

it just feels so much more fun, it lets me pace my shots, line everything up right, im no longer "on the clock"

[wide bay]

You can play whatever you like. It’s about having fun isn’t it?

Esp. When playing solo

[grizzled apex]

yeah but so many people say its some kinda crime to not headhunt on a sniper build

[wide bay]

It’s not optimal or meta but as long as you’re having fun, who cares?

[inner tendon]

Pretty much that yeah. Headhunter is the meta, there's other options.

I mean, I still use a Backfire and that's not winning the "build of the month" any time soon.

[tight maple]

The Swedish speakers in Finland, why is their flag there?

[inner tendon]

You'd have to ask the design team.

I'm sure there's a backstory there. Or maybe they meant to put a different one.

[tight maple]

I thought of it as an easter egg.

[fallow inlet]

Hey Eevee, Local, Rivens

[digital grove]

OK, you know the New York Hunter puzzle where you have to activate the computer I’m doing the first part of it and it’s not responding to me. I think it’s broken or something and I don’t have the veil hunter mask does anyone mind assisting me?

[viscid vigil]

who is that?

[wispy merlin]

Unknown, duh

[civic forge]

What does the firewall Medkit do

[cedar schooner]

Provides 200% armor over a few seconds. So you can pop a medkit, and basically have crazy regen/repair to eat damage.

[civic forge]

Oh shoot

[civic forge]

Do u know how long it is

[cedar schooner]

Not off hand. You can check in the firewall specialization menu

[wispy merlin]

over 10s

[civic forge]

Or

[clever fjord]

It's 150% in pvp

[grizzled apex]

hey dude, i have an incredibly important question

what order do buffs resolve in?

specifically, assuming its a critical mmr headshot, with full stacks of Perfect Focus, punch drunk, fox's prayer, contractors gloves, and vigilance is up

[inner tendon]

wait, crit MMR?

[grizzled apex]

and flatline proc's

just assuming the hit is a crit, its an HSD build

[inner tendon]

you've got a 3/5 chance per shot to crit even at max chance.
this is why higher fire-rate is so important for crits.

[grizzled apex]

i only have six and a half crit rate

[wispy merlin]

the order doesn't matter

[grizzled apex]

yeah but this is for example purposes, just assuming this shot has every buff it can so i know what order things resolve in

[wispy merlin]

you're basically asking for the damage formula

[grizzled apex]

it actually kinda does imo

yes

[wispy merlin]

no it doesn't, they all multiply each other

[clever fjord]

5 x 6 = 30
6 x 5 = 30

[wispy merlin]

multiplication is commutative so order doesn't matter

[grizzled apex]

oh shit your right, i thought some of these were additive buffs but its all percentages

[wispy merlin]

well some of them do

but the order still doesn't matter

the buffs all go in their respective slots

some of them add to weapon damage, some amp, etc.

[grizzled apex]

what about the 40% mmr bonus provided by equipment and my spec, is that additive or multiplicative

[wispy merlin]

ugh here we go again. so "additive" and "multiplicative" always needs an object. you can't be additive or multiplicative to nothing

[grizzled apex]

to the base damage of my rifle

[wispy merlin]

that 40% mmr bonus is additive to weapon damage, which is a multiplier

[grizzled apex]

wait what

weapon damage is a multiplier?

[wispy merlin]

then you have perfect focus which adds to total weapon damage which is separate from weapon damage... at this point pointing you to the damage formula is best

[grizzled apex]

that would be rather helpful imo

[wispy merlin]

yes, because base damage for each weapon is always fixed

the number that you see in inventory screen is not base damage

[clever fjord]

Does focus work similar to intimidate where it is 5^10?

[grizzled apex]

actually that is a good question, does focus stack on itself or is it a lumping bonus

[wispy merlin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/gi0uel/weapon_damage_101_bullet_damage/

[grizzled apex]

like, is each stack improving the damage including the previous stack, or are all stacks processed at once

[wispy merlin]

focus is total weapon damage, 60% twd at max

intimidate is 1.04^n amp, n goes from 1 to 9, ~1.42 at max

[wispy merlin]

a stack is just a stack, each one just gives the same bonus

[grizzled apex]

ok

[clever fjord]

So focus adds where intimidate multiplies? Unfortunate

[wispy merlin]

that's not a bad thing

[grizzled apex]

whats intimidate?

[wispy merlin]

focus still gives more than intimidate

just because focus has higher number

[grizzled apex]

oh yeah, cause its a bigger overall buff

[clever fjord]

Yeah but if it did multiply it would be even higher

[grizzled apex]

cause focus, after being scoped for 6 seconds, is a whole 60% improvement, fucking massive imo

[wispy merlin]

no, you have to consider if focus even adds to anything

in focus striker, you don't even have another twd source, so that 60% is basically the same as a 60% amp

[civic forge]

Is there a cool down for it

[wispy merlin]

in focus vigilance setups like in nego, even if you have 25% from vigilance already, focus is still a 48% effective amp because 1.85/1.25=1.48

and that is still greater than 1.42

[grizzled apex]

also, whats a good shotgun to run with my sniping setup, for when things get too close

lefty for sledge?

[wispy merlin]

so, just because something is "additive" or "multiplicative" does not mean it's bad or good. you have to consider the end result. thank you for coming to my TED talk

[grizzled apex]

hey dien, do you think lefty is a good option for a secondary on my sniper build?

[wispy merlin]

not really

[grizzled apex]

considering my first instinct once something gets too close is to swap to my secondary and flashbag them

[clever fjord]

An m870 will be ideal

[grizzled apex]

so an m870 with sledge?

[wispy merlin]

well m870 with any talent will work

[grizzled apex]

what sorta talent should i hunt for

[wispy merlin]

but since you're running dps mmr m870 may not be the best tbh. consider six12/scorpio

[civic forge]

Is there a cooldown for the firewall medkit

[wispy merlin]

no

[grizzled apex]

no

no medkit has a cooldown, other than the gear set that puts your medkit on a cooldown

[grizzled apex]

yeah but what about once i heve nemi?

i want a relatively accurate, very hard hitting shotgun, maybe a double barrel?

[wispy merlin]

well you're still running focus, so it is a dps setup

double barrel will mess you over when you have to reload

[grizzled apex]

what kind of shotgun would you recommend?

[wispy merlin]

six12/scorpio

[rugged stratus]

Always scorpio if not running other exo. It's a do all secondry

[subtle aspen]

just getting started on my SHD levels (only like 90), what should I be dumping into scavenging?

[rugged stratus]

Nothing atm. The biggest bang is going to be shd calibrations since you dont get a lot from any source.

[grizzled apex]

hey deck, i have a question

does the TDI Kard custom give you a skill tier passively, or only whilst holding it

[clever fjord]

Honestly they can be abundant in countdown which where they should be

[rugged stratus]

But other mats are widely available and field recon data can be farmed from controlpoints

[clever fjord]

Only when held

[subtle aspen]

ah okay. i was dumping into recon data, i'll switch to calibration

[rugged stratus]

Only while holding

[grizzled apex]

damn

[clever fjord]

And things like holding chem removes the skill tier

[grizzled apex]

what all ways of gaining skill tier are there that dont involve holding something? i have memento on presently so that helps

[rugged stratus]

Honestly you should hold them until you need and only spend what you need

[subtle aspen]

rgr

[rugged stratus]

Solar farm cp is good to hit daily for regular mats.
Running cp3 or cp4 will give blueprints when will eventually give you the different optimization mat blueprints as well

[grizzled apex]

i really wish more stuff did what shields do, scaling with non skill cores

[rugged stratus]

Tech class.
Yellow rolled picaros will have a skill tier and red core.
2nd brazos piece gives skilltier

[grizzled apex]

like, let the achilles pulse scale with red cores, sicne thats what its intended use is anyway

what are those and how do i get them

wait is picarros a holster?

[rugged stratus]

Just use that when you are teamed with someone using btsu glove and can give an overcharge

[grizzled apex]

im trying to build it into my main build presently

[rugged stratus]

Named brazos holster

[grizzled apex]

so really i just need 1 brazos piece, since my holster will be brazos

thanks

[rugged stratus]

If you go that route.
You can also use future perfect weapon talent

[grizzled apex]

so here's what im thinking

[tough marsh]

He wants it passively

[grizzled apex]

go picarro's holster with memento and a brazo's pair of gloves to replace contractors, just roll it well and the 8% dta wont matter much, this gives me a busted achilles pulse for stacking beeg damage

[rugged stratus]

I'm just listing all options

[tough marsh]

But is that criteria necessary? You're sacrificing valuable red cores

[grizzled apex]

well no, im getting red cores on this stuff to passively get yellow cores

picarro's comes with a red core and a yellow core for skill tier, and the second brazos piece gives me a skill tier

and memento

[tough marsh]

What is your build aiming to do?

[grizzled apex]

this entire build is dedicated to going "screw you" to one guy in particular

just point at him and he stops existing, massive damage

[rugged stratus]

I wouldn't build around Achilles

[grizzled apex]

well this buffs my spotter drone too

[tough marsh]

The problem is you have 3 gear pieces that do nothing but provide skill tiers

[grizzled apex]

no, they provide skill tier and red core

[tough marsh]

Leaving you with room for 2 pieces to work with

[rugged stratus]

You cant use spotter drone with a passive tech class yellow core

[grizzled apex]

still, 2 brazos pieces with memento is 3 yellow cores just passively

[rugged stratus]

Yeah. What's the rest of the build?

[grizzled apex]

headhunter or focus, punch drunk, and foxes prayer

[tough marsh]

Could work if you're using Regulus

[grizzled apex]

right now im planning on using nemesis

hey i thought yo usaid picaro's holster came with a yellow core and a red core

i just found one and its only core is blue

[rugged stratus]

You recal blue to yellow.
Why I said yellow rolled

I use this for reg build. Its 3 skill tiers without much sacrificing of gear.
Traditional hotshot would hit way harder for nemesis tho

[grizzled apex]

whats traditional hotshot look like

[rugged stratus]

4pc hotshot. Chainkiller chest , airaldi vigilance bag.
M700 carbon hits around 30mil stacked.
Nem would be considerably higher damage when stacked

Memento stacked on that setup would have m700 carbon hitting around 25mil , for reference

[grizzled apex]

wheres the exotic

[civic forge]

Do these need to be done on a certain difficulty?

[rugged stratus]

possibly on hard. is that just the project tracking? if so, check the actual desk to see if its a req

[civic forge]

For specialization

[rugged stratus]

yeah

[civic forge]

Oh I see it ty

[rugged stratus]

you actually dont always need an exotic on a build, just really when it serves an actual purpose

[rugged stratus]

this is a traditional , easy to farm, hotshot. offhand weapon is preference. you can 3pc the hotshot as well and add fox's if desired.

i slapped nemesis into the above build and this is the area its hitting. 20 expertise tho so ymmv

[grizzled apex]

i thought exotics were tese game changing, absurdly powerful objects?

[rugged stratus]

not always, most are strong in specific builds/scenarios. for sniper nemesis is the strongest , but also has drawbacks of being slow. high end mmr usually a better choice since they already have the damage to 1shot most stuff when stacked

[grizzled apex]

im fine with it being slow, i just want something that hits absurdly hard

[rugged stratus]

i also tested BLB buff on the above and 1 stack added like 1.8mil to my first shot

[grizzled apex]

and nemesis is, strictly speaking, the end all be all of absurdly hard hitting, considering its stupid high base damage

[rugged stratus]

youll still be outdamaged by someone running high end mmr in a duo. none of it really matters tho, as long as whtever you use gets the job done

[grizzled apex]

fair enough

[rugged stratus]

also thats its enjoyable

[grizzled apex]

yeah

i think the kinda stupid build im going for, picarro's with gloves, is gonna be fun and work decently enough

cause isnt 25 million enough to instantly kill any yellow bar aside from juggernauts on leg?

[narrow matrix]

But does overclock itself / hermano apply to the user

[cedar stag]

Sad cheater

You're the problem!

[rugged stratus]

youre the only one being toxic here... js

good thing your opinion doesnt matter

[cedar stag]

Whatever dude

[tough marsh]

Confused.gif

[grizzled apex]

hey crates, question

do you think my stupid memento +picarro build will be decent enough for, like, legend content?

[tough marsh]

No

I think 20 mil is not enough to one-shot an elite?

Well maybe if you're soloing

[mellow trout]

You can try memento solo but why Picaro

[grizzled apex]

because i just had a new idea

picarro's with +weapon damage in both slots

[mellow trout]

Not possible

[grizzled apex]

tinkering

[mellow trout]

You can only roll yellow and blue on Picaro

[grizzled apex]

yeah but you can tinker another red core on there, cant ye?

[mellow trout]

^

It's impossible to roll a red core onto Picaro specifically

[grizzled apex]

yes, you cant roll it, but can you tinker it

[mellow trout]

By roll onto I mean recalibrate it to

[grizzled apex]

then say that next time man

[mellow trout]

?

All loot drops are fixed cores

System corruption is the only set that drops with mixed cores

[rugged stratus]

he did
#ask-td2-community message

[civic forge]

Is the darpa research lab mission a side mission or main mission, im at one called “The Pentagon” right now

[mellow trout]

Main

[subtle aspen]

are CHC mods above, like, 4.8% rather rare? done a few countdowns today and haven't had anything above that drop

[mellow trout]

Generally yeah

RNG can be annoying

[subtle aspen]

good to know!

[mellow trout]

I still don't have the fabled 13 percent PFE mod

[civic forge]

How do I blind a boss

[mellow trout]

Blinder firefly

Or a flashbang

[grizzled apex]

is the KSG shotgun any good?

i like it personally

[mellow trout]

It's definitely not the first choice generally

With pummel it's basically unlimited ammo though

[grizzled apex]

yeah, im loving it tbh

its a high capacity chunk removal tool

[civic forge]

Where do I find scorchers

[grizzled apex]

i think thems the outcast flamers

wherever the outcasts are, they'll be, go do roosevelt island

[mellow trout]

Speaking of Roosevelt I only recently found out about the morovian society

[grizzled apex]

the what?

[mellow trout]

There's this Easter egg on Roosevelt

[grizzled apex]

hey naval, ive found my favorite rifle so far

the m700 tac, i found one with crit rate and man it fucks

[mellow trout]

M700 is indeed a nice rifle

But you'll want one with damage to targets out of cover

[grizzled apex]

is the "White Death" rifle any good? just got one

ok i just tried it, kinda ass, im going back to the tac

[mellow trout]

It used to be best in slot

But them days are gone now

[grizzled apex]

its kinda shit and it looks goofy

the m700 tac is literally an awp

[grizzled apex]

WOOOO

[winter knoll]

YEAHH

[grizzled apex]

47 million damage once HH and hotshot stack up

that is crispy

[ocean valley]

Can I get emperor guard from named cache or just from dz?

[cedar schooner]

It's available from named caches as well

[kindred ice]

What's the purpose of sharpshooter's special drone? (I forgot what it's called)
I tried using it and it always have a go-to marker at my crosshair
Do we have to order it around like bombardier drone?

[mellow trout]

It pulses the immediate area

It'll follow you but you can make it post up

[tacit reef]

Does ||kelso's hunter|| drop a comm? I'm sitting at 24/26 but never killed hunter

[inner tendon]

Re-run the Manhunt from "reset"ing it via the menu and you'll get them all.
that's the entire Manhunt, not just the final mission.

[mellow trout]

You ought to kill him anyway just for the cosmetic they drop

[tacit reef]

I got the cosmetic in another's mission

[inner tendon]

That cosmetic is locked to defeating that individual.
Others similar to them drop different ones.

e.g. Schaeffer Manhunt special enemy, the puzzles ones, etc.

[tacit reef]

Yeah one of my clan members brought me with and I got the mask from it

[inner tendon]

Either way, you need to reset the entire thing and play it again to get to 26/26 and get the Backpack Charm.

[tacit reef]

Just missing 2 comms and BP trophy

[river ridge]

So if i just hit 40 for the first time, what goals should i have? (leveled from a boosted 30 char that the game gave me when i got it)

[mellow trout]

getting your first build together is a good place to start

[civic forge]

Are scorchers from outcast or cleaners?

[nimble spruce]

For field research tasks? Outcast flamethrower ladies

[civic forge]

for specilzation tasks

[nimble spruce]

yup - you'll find them at outcast CPs, activities, there's a guaranteed named one in roosevelt island burn pit area if you want to just farm that one over and over

[grizzled apex]

i always wondered, whats in the box with the ivory keys?

[cedar schooner]

Shield Splinterer. Named F2000 W/Perfect Optimist

[grizzled apex]

thats it?

[cedar schooner]

maybe a skin or something 🤷‍♂️

[grizzled apex]

well thats disappointing

also, good nwes ic3sco, i got the nemesis

[cedar schooner]

not really tbh. It's a very good weapon

[grizzled apex]

i was kinda expecting some unique exotic

like a mask that gives some unique effect that the hunters can do

[cedar schooner]

I feel that, but as someone who hasn't done their hunter's yet, I wouldn't really care for it.

[grizzled apex]

idk, for killing every single hunter in all of DC, i was hoping for something a bit cooler than just some gun

gimme a mask that makes my grenades smoke bombs and puts them on a recharge, letting me blind enemies with a lingering cloud

[cedar schooner]

wouldn't be very worthwhille to run sadly

[grizzled apex]

yeah but it would at least be interesting

some huntery flavor for killign every hunter

[civic forge]

they have to be elite so what difficulty should i do

[grizzled apex]

heroic spawns the most elites

[cedar schooner]

Heroic CP is probably the fastest bet

[grizzled apex]

another good option, roosevelt island has a handful of em gauranteed to spawn

thats where i went to get it done

[civic forge]

As soon as u go in or near the end

[civic forge]

What’s CP

[nimble spruce]

Control point

[winter knoll]

i had 2 kills on that task stolen by the npcs that help you. hurt mah soul

[civic forge]

Is this an invaded stronghold?

[winter knoll]

i tihnk its the zoo this week?

[narrow kraken]

I have a solid striker build, all red and 53chc and 139chd (4p striker, 1p Ceska holster, and Coyotes mask) + a fi build 4.1mil healing with hive (4p Future Initiative, The Setup and BTSU Gloves). Would this be a okay setup for the love birds incursion?

[sudden matrix]

Builds probs good. Just know how to do it

[slim elk]

yes, invaded appears as red

[storm river]

ok how difficult/long is the incursion? Ive been on a hiatus so havent tried it yet lol

[wispy merlin]

not too difficult with 2 experienced people, around 10mins for typical run

[subtle aspen]

10 minutes? Oh man. Did my first one last night and it was like half an hour 😸

[devout mountain]

10 minutes with 2 experienced? My fastest run is like 14 😔

And I think that’s the one where my random teammates did triple spray on Wright

[civic forge]

How long does it usually take to max out a specialization

[rugged stratus]

Depends on how much you do in game.
You get 5 spec points for completing invaded missions.
A few points for leveling iirc.
Daily/weekly projects or bounties will list as a reward if they give any.
If you're active could level 1 in a couple days

[civic forge]

Do I get any for countdown

[rugged stratus]

I dont think so.
Do invaded and run a bunch of challenging or heroic control points.
You'll get a bunch of blueprints and shd while you grind out spec points

[grizzled apex]

about how much health do legendary elites have

[wispy merlin]

refer to this sheet

[grizzled apex]

which sheet

[wispy merlin]

it's linked...

[grizzled apex]

dien you didnt like shit

[inner tendon]

the blue text is a link.

[wispy merlin]

??

[wispy merlin]

click on it

[grizzled apex]

click on what, its all the same color

[wispy merlin]

and idk what discord mod you're using

[inner tendon]

you can make links short now

[wispy merlin]

click on the "this sheet". also you didn't have to lash out at me

[grizzled apex]

i put on a vey high contrast theme so i can actually read stuff, im colorblind