ask-td2-community

[rain echo]

Unless you have like 20 keys on that 1 character

Most do it to help people get thr raid exclusives some do it just cause

Also cause fir iron horse there is a gun called the regulus and you must do a project for it and it requires you to go through Iron horse a couple times

[gritty vine]

Do i need to finish the whole raid to open the last box? Ps. I don't have any keys. And does the bosses in raid drops keys or do i have to find those boxes?

And is the EB only dark hour raid exclusive like regulus in iron horse.

[late oar]

Yes

Some raid bosses drop keys

The rest of the keys are found in cases

[late oar]

Yes

Ravenous is also a IH raid exclusive

[gritty vine]

Do i need to open it for myself or does the last raid box work as dc lockboxes?

[late oar]

You gotta open it yourself

But others can drop their loot they got

So if someone has a EB they can hand it to you

[hallow raptor]

Only the last boss, razorback and morazova.

[lime night]

Headshot dmg only 8%atm not god roll

[late oar]

I said "some" but thanks for the names

Makes it so they know which bosses

[hallow raptor]

You or anyone in the team can open the crate and they can share what comes out with anyone in the group when they opened it.

[gritty vine]

Then i will try today because on discovery mostly game starts at the last checkpoint.

[late oar]

You can only get it on normal

Not discovery

[hallow raptor]

No crate in discovery

[gritty vine]

Really? Then i have to find group from the channel

[hallow raptor]

Correct

[late oar]

Yep

[lime night]

marksman guns should also have out of cover if i can roll is is it the best for snipers?

[late oar]

9 times outa 10 someone will get it and drop it if you ask for it

[gritty vine]

Wait i also heard that it will be available in dz drops in season 11 is it true

[late oar]

Yes

Don't try DZ

The raid will be much better for you

[gritty vine]

Yeah i know most of the people are very helping.

[rain echo]

Next season DZ is gonna be a warzone

[gritty vine]

Yeah i also struggling right now in east dz i think it will be too hard for me to get from dz i will definitely try raid tomorrow on normal mode.

[hallow raptor]

Be sure to have a strong dps build. See pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice

[rain echo]

Yes standard red should do

Dark hours is just a big dps check you only need 1 guy with jammer build for razorback

Iron horse unless your experienced stay red as well

[gritty vine]

Yes i will surely use dps build thanks @rain echo, @hallow raptor and @late oar.

[rain echo]

And be honest when raiding if you don't know the mechanics just ask people will be more then happy to explain it to you

[late oar]

If you ever need build help just either @ me in #td2-build-advice or ask skarlet to annoy me enough to see what's up

[gritty vine]

Sure

[rain echo]

#td2-build-advice is probably best its got every build and what you need thanks to raucey

Some of the builds may be a lil outdated but should still work

[late oar]

"Giant dad"

If you know you know

[rain echo]

😏

[crude falcon]

uhm what is effective way to improve proficiency ? Keep using 1 weapon to the end ?

and is proficiency important ?

[turbid igloo]

Which drone is good to use in both pve and pvp?

[storm river]

I tend to run dta instead. Tons of times youll shoot people in cover with MMRs

[storm river]

Striker is good for proccing insync, other than that they really dont cross over well. Defender is good for pvp, fixer is okay in pve

[kindred pine]

So I guess the season manhunt main bounties aren't meant to be soloed?

[storm river]

I soloed all 4 on heroic 🤷‍♂️ died a few times but wasnt too bad

[turbid igloo]

Defender is good in both pve and pvp? Since it doesn't rest too much

[kindred pine]

I had to take like 30 mins on each section and didnt even make it to the target

[storm river]

It works for pve but there are better options.

[kindred pine]

third section in I got downed

[storm river]

Generally the pve meta is not getting shot in the first place. Striker drone can pull aggro off you @turbid igloo

Whereas pvp is reducing damage/tanking damage

[turbid igloo]

Striker drone kinda sucks in pvp but have you imaginated a group of 4 Striker drones?

[storm river]

T6 drones are a pain in pvp

[kindred pine]

My drone got destroyed really quickly in my runs, bad build I guess?

[turbid igloo]

T6?

[storm river]

No, they have very little health with no skill tiers

Them dying means that its doing its job, pulling aggro away from you

[storm river]

Skill tier 6

[kindred pine]

I don't really have an official build though I just finished the expansion and unlocked all the manhunt bounties, but yea I'm kinda stuck now

[storm river]

Well if you dont have a coherent build you cant expect to solo challenging or heroic, nevermind the season bounties

[kindred pine]

So what should my next step be from here? Feel like there is little chance of me finishing this season before it sends, which is w/e I guess.

[lunar osprey]

yes drone and turret is hurt, but the reason they dont useful, is emp pulse can destroy them immediately, drone hp is pretty low so it can easy to destroy shooting by dps, also they require a really open battlefield, and they don't have good chasing / control ability

not even mention nego is biggest counter, so let say tu17 emp pulse go shit, drone turret won't go top tier

[turbid igloo]

@storm river is fixer good for both pve and pvp or only for pve?

[lunar osprey]

it's shit

[turbid igloo]

Oh

[turbid igloo]

Is defender drone good for both tho?

[lunar osprey]

good for pvp

[turbid igloo]

My damage reduction is 30% rn

[karmic fern]

Heya!
What's the most efficient-brainafk-xp farming method? best to do while netflix ^^

[turbid igloo]

Pve

[turbid igloo]

For pve rn, in pvp it's 15%

[fathom spruce]

run around intercept convoys in the world, on a world difficulty + directives as high as you feel like are still going like a breeze (for some this'll be heroic with 5 directives or maybe 3-4, for some it might mean dropping to challenging)

[karmic fern]

thanks @fathom spruce

[fathom spruce]

very zen, very predictable, little gameplay effort, usually what I do when distracted with other stuff or watching YT or movies and whatnot

don't feel bad for scaling down difficulty to challenging if it means you do them a lot quicker with your build, but ideally try to keep like 3-4 directives at least
they're great to do because they give double the XP of what they state they'd give

[karmic fern]

oh! nice - 2x xp is more than welcome 🙂

[fathom spruce]

yeah you get like about as much from a convoy as a control point except it's massively quicker of course, especially once you know where the spawns are likely going to come from (and both/all waves are always from the same spot too)

no stakes either, sometimes you didn't look and another patrol ran into you and you died, whoop go again from another safe house

ideally you have world's CPs reset btw so they're all hostile so as many convoys can spawn as possible

[karmic fern]

thanks a lot man, i'll give it a try

[fathom spruce]

enjoy the netflix & XP! :D

[fallow inlet]

Hey Datz, Buddha,3am,

[late oar]

HOI SAPH

[turbid igloo]

Is defender drone + engineer hive a good build?

[subtle kelp]

That just buff to tank and anyone else soo..

[turbid igloo]

Imagine one or two guys with high damage on iron horse and everyone else stacking defender on them with tier 6

[subtle kelp]

Well, in that case....

idk

[late oar]

Booster hive is good

BTSU gloves if you want overcharge for your team and drone

Crack hive (artificer) isn't good so don't use crack hive

[kindred pine]

Having a real hard time beating vivian on hard for some reason, do the enemy spawns never end on hard?

[turbid igloo]

Where can i get BTSU gloves?

[late oar]

Anywhere

It's in the loot pool

I got it from a CP so you could try a glove targeted loot area with a CP

[turbid igloo]

What does CP means? The only CP i know is that one illegal crime thing

[late oar]

Control points

[turbid igloo]

Oh ok

[late oar]

Not that other type of CP because we don't talk about that

It's a big no no bad bad

[turbid igloo]

Thx for the info

Also is defensor drone good for pve?

[late oar]

It's meh in pve

Better for pvp

[fallow inlet]

or CD with gloves as target loot

[turbid igloo]

Is the sniper drone (that one which marks enemies) good?

[late oar]

Not at all

Striker drone is best

For pve

Even better with a skill build

You can try a banshee pulse if you have gunner and are running a dps build or something

[hallow raptor]

Just spent 3300 watch points to max out my alloys… lol, it’s fun to spend 12-14 million on gear and guns just to deconstruct them…. Crafted the rest. 🤣😆😂

[turbid igloo]

@late oar how does booster hive works

[late oar]

Well it's all in the name and description but it buffs your team

It's a better hive for when your in a team

[turbid igloo]

In which way? Damage defense or what does it buff

Idk how gun handling works

As a buff

[late oar]

I have to check but I believe it is defense

[late oar]

Makes your weapon more accurate

[turbid igloo]

Oh so the accuracy get's boosted?

[hallow raptor]

Now I get to run another character through wony again for watch points. Woot Woot!

[late oar]

Good luck!

[late oar]

Well yes

So your bullets don't go everywhere

[hallow raptor]

Simple, I’ve done it like 12 or 13 times in the last few months…

[late oar]

Awesome

[turbid igloo]

Useful for snipers and shotguns

[late oar]

Keep that grind buddha

[turbid igloo]

Is it meh or good on solo?

[late oar]

YES for automatic weapons

[turbid igloo]

I'm with lady death

[hallow raptor]

Gives me something to do… starting to get bored waiting for season 11…

[late oar]

Lady death is a good exotic

Better in dps builds

BTSU is really good for skill builds with hive

[subtle kelp]

Noice =w=

[turbid igloo]

My crit chance is 40 or 43 rn

My crit damage is 74%

Lady death makes it even better

[late oar]

Awesome skarlet

[subtle kelp]

It's erm...Finisher

[late oar]

You want more crit dmg but if you want me to help your build just ask skarlet to bug me or @ me in #td2-build-advice

[storm river]

Gotta pump those numbers up if youre running a damage build

[turbid igloo]

That's exactly what i'm running

[storm river]

In that case yeah pump those numbers up

[turbid igloo]

Is booster hive good for solo?

[storm river]

Is it a high end build or a gear set?

[late oar]

Crit dmg is minimum 100

[subtle kelp]

Me trying to get The setup again

[turbid igloo]

High end build..? Idk i have one exotic which is hunter bag and it's helping me

[storm river]

For a green set, with SMGS and a high end set its way higher

I get 60 chance and 130 dmg with hf+memento

[late oar]

Status effect build huh?

[late oar]

Good combo

[subtle kelp]

Yeep

[late oar]

Not here

Go to #td2-build-advice

[turbid igloo]

Oh sorry

[valid bronze]

That's future initiative not eclipse

[late oar]

I mean it's a status effect build idk why no eclipse

[turbid igloo]

Is firefly good to use on pve and pvp?

[kindred pine]

You can only recalibrate one attribute on a item?

[subtle kelp]

YES

Another one

Found BTSU gloves again

[late oar]

Awesome

[subtle kelp]

And a btsu gloves

3 Exotic drop in 1 match

[late oar]

Even more awesome

[turbid igloo]

Google, what's the definition of farming? Google:

Tier 3 fixer drone can help you in most of the moments?

[tight mantle]

What day do the invaded missions change?

[turbid igloo]

Every 7 days (1 week)

[storm river]

@turbid igloo icon looks like thay

[storm river]

Tuesdays

[turbid igloo]

Understandable, have a good day

[proper coral]

Can I start grinding side missions now? I’m 25

[turbid igloo]

@storm river is the healing seeker good?

[hallow raptor]

Yes

[proper coral]

Ty

[next perch]

Is there a way that I can turn off hearing other player's mics?
Don't wanna hear the trash talk in pvp in the DZ.

[tiny stump]

Open the in-game menu. Select the Social tile. Highlight the player you wish to mute. Select the Mute Player option.

or - Head to the main menu and select Settings.

• Enter the Audio submenu.
• Toggle the Disable VoIP setting to Yes.

[turbid igloo]

Sometimes i still ask myself if defender drone is meh or good in pve aswell as pvp

[surreal vault]

the defender?

[tiny stump]

it can be. when i use it i make sure i have 3 skill tiers on my build and then use future perfect to get it to 6 skill tiers and overcharge

[turbid igloo]

Holy

I bet overcharge makes defender drone more than OP

[tiny stump]

it makes mine 96% damage reduction

but its only 15 seconds

[turbid igloo]

Does glove targetted loot have a chance to give BTSU?

[tiny stump]

yea target gloves

[turbid igloo]

15 seconds of pure immortality

[tiny stump]

yup

[turbid igloo]

Imagine on pvp

[tiny stump]

saved my arse. i came so close to dying

[next perch]

So toggling the disable voip will rid of all player's mics?

[tiny stump]

yeah

[weary siren]

How can I do countdown in a local server?

[valid bronze]

What's the build

[tiny stump]

it was memento, brazos all red mask, brazos picaros holster w armor and chc, grupo obliterate chest, foxes prayers and contractors gloves. and technician spec for the third skill tier

so 2 armor cores, 3 skill tiers and 6 red cores

damage is lacking though

but it works for having a little fun with running around with defender drone

[valid bronze]

Gotcha

[lapis ibex]

So how can I get more gear brands in the list of gear to research for expertise?

[delicate cliff]

Everything that is "expertise-able" is already in the Expertise tab at the crafting station. Or what list do you mean?

[tiny stump]

farm for it in countdown and donate everything to the proficiency/expertise

or use it a lot until its proficient

[lapis ibex]

For example, I only have 8 masks to research. I don’t see the brand that I’m currently wearing

[tiny stump]

which is a huge pain'

[worthy plover]

the waveform holster is in general loot pool?

[tiny stump]

the masks are only named masks

the gloves and holsters and chests and backpacks and masks. only named items

the brands are lower down the list

[lapis ibex]

Well that’s dumb. Ok well thanks

[tiny stump]

its better than if you had to profiency every brand set and gear set's mask. when you level up a gear pr brand set it affects all 6 pieces in it at the same time

[lapis ibex]

I get that but I don’t see that brand but it’s cool thought. Thank you though

[tiny stump]

thats strange

they should all be there'

[turbid igloo]

Which one is better to use? Defender drone + revive hive or repair chem+ defender drone?

[tiny stump]

defender drone isnt that great unless you have a lot of skill tiers. it doesnt last very long and the cooldown isnt very quick. reviver hive is a really good failsafe and chem heals are pretty good even with no skill tiers

[next perch]

Does hazard protection counter riot foam?

[hallow raptor]

Yes

[next perch]

How much would be good?
100% ?

[hallow raptor]

100% would be zero ensnare, 90% would be 10% ensnare. And there are ensnare resistance mods as well.

[next perch]

👌 thanks

[weary trellis]

Hi, I'm a running low on inventory 😦 Are there Brands/Sets that no builds use so I can just deconstruct without thinking about it?

[clever ocean]

generally you should just get rid of everything that you don't need

and once you do need something you can just farm it up

instead of being a hoarder

with the exception of certain named items and exotics

[narrow matrix]

5/11 is one and if you don't have intention to play as a tank which usually is meant either for distracting a boss or playing support

then gila guard, uzina, getica, certain brands are useful on skill builds but have a rare find so golan with yellow attributes otherwise junk it

alps, rikter, douglas, walker, (dont use them myself) but they have their uses on specific builds such as healer or pistol build otherwise junk em

if u cant reach max value on something in 1 recal junk it

[kindred pine]

Is the a difference in gear modes whether they have the microchip icon or the square plate one?

[narrow matrix]

huh

[kindred pine]

these icons

I have mods that have the same attribute, but different icon does that mean anything? Are they used differently?

[narrow matrix]

no they give them different names and what not but they do the same task

[kindred pine]

Some of them are differen't levels, but the lower level has a higher attribute percentage, is this a trap and there is a hidden amount that percentage is based on and the higher level one is actually better?

[narrow matrix]

naw if its higher go ahead and use it

[kindred pine]

Does that apply to gear as well? cause that just seems weird like why would lower level mods/gear have better stats?

How are these both 4% at level 40, but the bar is significantly different?

[narrow matrix]

well...

its just something i've noticed, the game will continue to drop you lower rolled mods until you have one in your inventory thats rolled higher than what its dropping (so basically creates a new minimum based on your highest one)

start a new character for example, game will insult you by dropping 2.5 % crit chance mods where on your character with a at least one 5% or 6% crit chance mod it will drop at least 5% or minimum 4.5%

[kindred pine]

Yea, but how does that explain the difference in bar sizes despite the same percentage?

[narrow matrix]

because the one you have thats a lower level has a lower maximum value

[kindred pine]

Which is what I asked earlier and you said no? That said that isn't the case here, they are both level 40

[narrow matrix]

so what do you mean by lower level

[verbal topaz]

They're rounded, higher bar is better

[narrow matrix]

also note that certain skills can use 2 of the same kind of mods but they go in different slots

or 2 of the same bonuses from mods rather

[verbal topaz]

Doesn't make any sense

Nor is it true

[narrow matrix]

start a new character with no mods on it and lmk

[verbal topaz]

...

[subtle kelp]

@meager elbow YOu missing one, let me check carefully

[kindred pine]

If a place has a target loot icon how do I get that loot?

[narrow matrix]

Farm activities in the area or bounties

Public execution, control point, propaganda broadcast etc

[gritty vine]

Hey if i unlock the revanous or eagle bearer will also get add it to my loot pool

Means can i get the gun from targeted loot areas

[fathom spruce]

Don't think so, it's not mentioned (for either of the two) as becoming part of the loot pool once you have it on the gear attribute spreadsheet

It's listed in the pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice, the gear attribute sheet which is this:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTJEX5DerCvOj3a_m36TRy1gPBAUvrduOIdmXI9j1Y0MpQk1wIXaZ9KOcPa7HzXzp_N5qGmjDj6yEfL/pubhtml#

It has an "Exotic Drop Locations and Chances" tab that is a great go-to source to see how exotics can drop, including if and when they become part of (any) general loot pool

[gritty vine]

Oh ok thank you

[fallow inlet]

The eaglebearer , ravenous and regulos are raid locked. The Big Horn is legendary locked

[fathom vessel]

Do you still have anymore ways to farm Chill out mask?

[fierce knoll]

Hello! I have a question to the PS5 Players (i cant find the answer when using google sorry): is it normal that i only see the PS4-Tag, even if i play on PS5? I am not sure if i am playing the "correct" version... but i have 60fps ingame so i think this is the PS5 Version, right?

[fallow inlet]

@fathom vessel you've got 2 more days to kill santa gremlin

[fathom vessel]

Where is he located at?

[narrow matrix]

May I ask what you mean by PS4 tag?

[narrow matrix]

Fast travel to Jefferson trade center then immediately turn around and run towards the street, there’s 2 sewers .. give it a min or 2 but he should spawn immediately

There’s also dz south main entrance, fast travel - turn left and run towards the parking lot

Dcd headquarters (mission) - ft and run towards street / parking lot by leaving the compound

If he doesn’t spawn keep doing this after logging in and out, there’s other locations but these ones I’ve used and know off the top of my head

The Last call safe house (one in downtown east) I think also has a spawn

@fierce knoll if you mean that it still shows you as a ps4 console on friends list / in parties that’s fine

Activate the ps5 as primary and see if it doesn’t anything

[fathom vessel]

does the difficulty matter in affecting its spawn?

[narrow matrix]

No

I did it on heroic regardless tho cause he’s not hard to kill as he doesn’t fight back, merely taunts you

Be aware that enemy factions can spawn at these areas in his place tho

Also he only comes out at night I did it after 11 pm / 23:00 in game up until 6 am / 06:00

You can see the time when you press the button to go into settings (first menu)

[crude falcon]

i just wonder if the Dev ever update new cosmetic ? Like new Emote, skin, etc

new to game, doesn't know how the update service work

[fallow inlet]

@narrow matrix don't forget he does take pot shots at you if your not paying attention to him

[storm river]

They have apparel events that add new cosmetics twice per season

[fierce knoll]

Is there no PS5 version?

[versed pumice]

Don’t think so

[kind quest]

Does anyone know why I still haven't gotten the compensation cach

[crude falcon]

wow, good to hear the game still update content after all those years

but .... we only have 2 raid mode for now ??

[dim crag]

Only 2 raids, yes

[carmine flicker]

Raids aren’t a main priority for the average player and even some of the exclusive loot they have (some, not all) will be dropping in the dark zone next season

But the one thing they can’t put somewhere else is they experience they give

[nimble stone]

Anyone know if Chill Out mask can drop from Targeted gila guard and not just loot goblin?

[karmic fern]

what's the best bet of target loot to get system corruption gear from the DZ (is there even targeted system corruption?)?

[carmine flicker]

No tl for sys cor

Wait until a piece of armor is targeted loot such as chest, holster, or gloves

[karmic fern]

okay. thanks for the info. i guess i gotta cross my fingers harder ^^

[valid bronze]

Only goblin

[fresh vault]

My friends can't chance specialties even though he "finished the game", any thoughts?

[narrow matrix]

No, ps4 game being run on ps5

[turbid igloo]

Sadly no, i got a Playstation 5 and tried to upgrade the game to PS5 version and sadly it doesn't have

[storm river]

Theyve said raids wasnt really something they were happy with, and because of that dont have any interest in making more

[craggy osprey]

Lmao
Good thing there is a xbox series s n x version

[turbid igloo]

Nice

[crude falcon]

that was unexpected, i though raid is like endgame content, and endgame content is important, no ?

[craggy osprey]

Dont know why there aint a piss5 version

[crude falcon]

so what is our endgame content for now? optimized all build ?

i'm using my brother account, he said the game kinda repeaty in Lau manhunt and stop playing during that time (the acc is around lv 400? )

[turbid igloo]

Piss 5 lmao

[nova flower]

endgame might be different for everyone - some love the raids, some pvp, others solo legendary content, max stats, collections, etc.

[marsh holly]

It gets boring after some runs. I stopped raiding after i got the exotics and helped my friends to get them too

[storm river]

Yes but they specifically didnt like raids

[marsh holly]

Yeah. With expertiese projects are still a thing

[scenic dome]

With Anderson gone, what would be some other efficient ways to level up watch?

[marsh holly]

Res convoys or summit floor loop farm. Idk if they patched floor 10 farming though

[delicate cliff]

they did a long time ago

[storm river]

Patched months ago

[hallow raptor]

They patched it. Resource convoys are the best for xp now. Challenging or heroic with as many directives as you can handle.

[scenic dome]

Ah i remember doing resource convoys way back. Good to hear thats still in, that should be something I can handle. Thank you @marsh holly @hallow raptor

[craggy osprey]

huh piss5 does have next gen benefits

[halcyon needle]

Is there a way to choose European servers on PC?

[storm river]

Without a VPN, no

[fallow inlet]

@nimble stoneloot gremlin only

Hey RIRI, Random

[nimble stone]

sometimes there's a convoy with a circle around it, what does it mean?

[carmine flicker]

It’s an elite convoy, same thing just slightly harder

[nimble stone]

ah, does it give more exp?

[carmine flicker]

Yes

[narrow matrix]

Also has more waves + enemies in the wave

Scaled enemies too, 90% of enemies will be elite… try not to get caught near other activities

[woven quiver]

Is there a min lvl requirement to join a clan?

[nimble spruce]

kind of - you have to unlock the clan vendor from the theatre settlement, which requires doing a few of the connected main missions

[woven quiver]

Okay ty

[turbid igloo]

Does defender drone have a certain chance to actually deflect bullets instead of reducing the damage?

[torpid roost]

where do i submit video with cheaters in DZ?

[foggy needle]

Only reduces damage, doesn't deflect.

[foggy needle]

Through the official system, info is pinned in #unofficial-troubleshooting

[narrow matrix]

can the compensation cache be left in your inventory / mailbox or you have to open it ?

[storm river]

Its gone after tmr

[narrow matrix]

So you have to open it or ?

[white ingot]

Is there a reliable way to farm the memento backpack?

[foggy needle]

Same as 99% of gear, farm target loot

[white ingot]

I thought it was summit only

Nice

[foggy needle]

Countdown and summit are best places. And no, not summit only

[gray spruce]

Okay, here is a random question, if I have done the Anderson Manhunt on one character, and gotten the gun on that character, will it be in my general pool on every character? Or do I need to do that really quickly on any alt I'm playing?

[storm river]

Not sure, but better safe than sorry

[kindred pine]

increasing the difficulty for a mission increase the changes of dropped targeted loot right?

[storm river]

Yes

And increases rolls and exotic droprates

[narrow matrix]

Directives increase target loot drop

Challenging you’d get more loot due to kill enemies faster

But if looking for something you’d want heroic

[kindred pine]

yea im on challenging right now, didn't do any directives tho

[narrow matrix]

Yea you want directives for TL

[kindred pine]

darn already in the mission, guess ill do it again -_-

[lime night]

how do you report idiots cheaters in dz?

[nimble spruce]

check the pinned messages in #unofficial-troubleshooting

[sour arch]

How do I get Trigger Mechanism?

[hallow raptor]

Kill the rooftop boss in capital univaded

[sour arch]

Where is Capital uninvaded?

[hallow raptor]

The stronghold, Capital

[sour arch]

Oh wait I already got it...

But wait where do I get the D50?

[hallow raptor]

Pistol targeted loot

[sour arch]

How do I set targeted loot

[hallow raptor]

And cross your fingers

[hallow raptor]

You can only “set” targeted loot in summit and countdown

Otherwise it changes every day

[crude falcon]

is this season let you play old man hunt in BP rewards? what happend if i miss them (i'm at level 30 BP atm).

[hallow raptor]

Today pistols are at DCD

[sour arch]

I got coyotes mask. Is it any good?

[tiny stump]

yea one of the best pieces in the game

if you like dps builds especially

[copper zodiac]

How to get KARD Custom pistol? I see ppl bringing this up on their builds and I wonder how to get it outside of PVP

[carmine flicker]

Named item caches that can be bought with countdown requisition from the cd vendor

[kindred pine]

Just tried to do one of the manhunts with a semi hunter fury build and still got destroyed :\

[errant sorrel]

The wolves weapon skin is exclusive for pc?

[trail spoke]

First time on this platform…apology for dumb ?. Been playing TD2 for years…but still don’t know why loot from Countdown has a “timer” on it. I can only use it for an hour? Whats the point of using Countdown for loot then?

[golden geode]

are you in a group

[narrow matrix]

The timer is for how long u have before u can’t share that loot with whoever was in that countdown group

If ur playing with a friend and ur sharing loot u have like 2 hrs to share loot before it expires I think

[golden geode]

that was why i asked him if he was in a group

[narrow matrix]

Yea didn’t mean to take a shot at u

[golden geode]

i no you didnt

doesnt it add a timer then if you get loot while solo

[narrow kraken]

I've been playing the entire 10 hour demo and have barely a couple left. I'm really considering buying it but sometimes it demotivates me a bit to feel that it's a bit desolate, not only in the base but also in matchmaking. Do you really recommend me to buy it?

It could also be that the vast majority of people have such a level that it isn't until much later that matchmaking improves or something like that, I don't know.

[narrow matrix]

Demo?

[narrow kraken]

The trial version

[narrow matrix]

Game is a looter shooter so if you don’t like repetition and grinding then it’s not for u

Otherwise for the ones who like it there’s plenty of content and your goal is whatever u set it at

I’d recommend but it all comes down to what u want out of the game cause after u do the expansion and each season then there’s nothing keeping u unless u have a goal

[narrow kraken]

I don't want to say, I'm liking the game itself, I especially like games where I can disconnect half of my brain to play them. The thing is, it also has a great multiplayer element but sometimes it feels weird, I feel like I should see a lot of people here and there, playing randoms from time to time, but in everything I've played I haven't gotten there. never play with one person

(I'm using a translator by the way, in case you notice I say weird things xD)

[narrow matrix]

That’s the base game for ya

It’s actually pretty legible lol

Once u beat the expansion the game is very active

[narrow kraken]

I know more or less how to write but not so fast xD

[narrow kraken]

Oh yeah?. But why

[narrow matrix]

Cause everyone’s doing higher level content

Raids, countdown, dz, legendary missions (hard af missions), summit

[narrow kraken]

Ohh, i see

So I'll probably end up buying it, it's just that I really like spending time playing it but I also really like cooperating with others and such, and I was very excited about that xD. Since I had that doubt with active people I wasn't very sure

[narrow matrix]

It’s very active not sure on Xbox tho

[ashen valley]

Decently active on XB, at least it seems so when I'm on. Lots of people in the public areas.

[copper zodiac]

what exactly is the point of disruption other than preventing enemies from using their abilities/damaging robotics

[supple swift]

That

[trail spoke]

Thanks for the reply. Countdown groups only…only solo everywhere else.

Why am I so bad in PVP??!! 4yrs and never beat a rogue agent in DarkZone, never won a Raid or Skirmish...etc. I stink at all PVP. But my loadout seems better than most when I inspect others. I use: Technician specialization, 46k PVP WD, 26% CHC, 57% CHD, 75% Headshot Dmg, 1.4M Armor, health dmg 21%, all weap dmg bonus 98%, armor regen 14k, prot from elites 24%, hazard protection 19%, bleed resist 19%, w/Crusader Shield Skill Tier 6, Drone Skill Tier 3.....Kingbreaker 139.9 DMG +God-Rolled, talents are Perfect Spotter and Kill Confirmed, everything....and....all weapons and all gear GOD-rolled and all are at 13% expertise. I worked very hard for years to grind out this loadout....I can dominate PVE and hold very well in group Legendary. But absolutely no good in PVP. Why? (This cant all be due to operator error? Right?).

[narrow matrix]

Yea….

Found ur issue

[carmine flicker]

I…

Don’t know how to say this nicely…

[narrow matrix]

Your crit chance and crit damage is bad

You tried doing everything to the point ur doing nothing

[carmine flicker]

Why do you even have armor regen?

[narrow matrix]

Health damage?

[carmine flicker]

Pfe? What you need that for?

Haz pro and bleed res? Is this a haz pro build or a dps build?

It’s a terrible hybrid attempt at a pvp build with many useless things thrown in

[carmine flicker]

Think that’s from weapon assault rifle

[narrow matrix]

I’ll simplify it for you… pvp is about 2 things

Doing more damage to your opponent and the best way to do that is with 60% crit chance and a solid minimum of 150% chd

[carmine flicker]

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s588/sh/53eca71b-69fd-4acc-05d3-cc313969704e/0586360fcad09c0be7b1225716fc7db4&sa=D&source=editors&ust=1677457223600342&usg=AOvVaw2tWcSR4tu2Jz01MWOubyxM

[narrow matrix]

You want all your cores to be blue

[carmine flicker]

Just read that to get a general idea of what a pvp build is supposed to be like

[narrow matrix]

Lose the drone, run riot foam Chem, sticky bomb, something that will mess with them without being compromised .

Kill confirmed (memento) is a bad choice for pvp… if it needs to be procced or activated via kill it’s baaaaad

[carmine flicker]

And not all cores have to be blue, just a minimum of 4 is heavily recommended for close ranges

A few things I want to point are:
1 minimum 4 blues for close range, can be more reds if longer ranges
2 you will need multiple builds to be truly effective in pvp, say a pulse resistance build and a spotter/flatline build. Pvp is all about countering the build your opponent has, so throw on a pulse res build if your opponent is running spotter/flatline
3 a maxed out watch will greatly benefit you
4 smgs were nerfed to hell because of the lady death so ars are more favorable
5 builds may vary between conflict/dark zone
From something I said earlier today

[narrow matrix]

Don’t make a pvp build till the new season drops, see what changes first but a lot of what u described is ur build not your gameplay (until u got the right build)

Also ditch kingbreaker you’re assuming your opponent doesn’t have pulse resistance, same with spotter

[carmine flicker]

As a general dark zone build I run coyotes foxes picaros 1pc fenris 1pc ceska 1pc grupo, all rolled to chd/chc. Talents unbreakable and ad rush. Weapon police m4 with measured.

3 blues 3 reds

It would be 4 blues but I’m too lazy to farm for a better piece

And my backpack has a skill haste roll but yeah too lazy to farm

[narrow matrix]

Waiting for someone to argue about measured 👻

[carmine flicker]

“It’s a 1% dps increase” okay it works doesn’t it

[narrow matrix]

Idk I just wanna see a fight 😂

Your build actually has one advantage I’d say (you can run into dz drops and tank all the damage whilst stealing or looting the drop)

I could be wrong but I personally find fighting the npcs to be stabbing yourself in the foot since other people are coming

[carmine flicker]

Measured has worked for me. Don’t care about it being a 1% dps increase statistically it outperforms the enemy and in pvp that is what it is all about. With measured you get that dps in faster and you gotta give it a bonus for feeling like the house giving it some points for nostalgia

[carmine flicker]

Every time I mention that aspect of the build azur always comes in and is like “uhm ackschually measured is a 1% dps increase while optimist is like a 7% increase or something so your build bad” and I always repeat the same thing to him “well in pvp it’s all about getting that dps in quickly and that’s what measured allows me to do”

[river dove]

i can't find where the side missions i'm missing are

any tips for that?

[narrow matrix]

If it works for you it works

[narrow matrix]

Did u do the 5 hidden ones in dc?

[river dove]

i suppose not lol

i had found a couple random mission givers but i didn't look for any more

[narrow matrix]

Missing wire scavengers
Navy hill transmission
Missing scavengers or something like that
NYC after dark (dk the name)

[narrow matrix]

Yea there’s more, there’s 5 of them

[river dove]

thanks for the heads up i can prob find a youtube guide to find them

didn't know there were that many

[narrow matrix]

https://www.gamesradar.com/division-2-hidden-side-missions-list-guide/

[river dove]

sweet, thanks

[trail spoke]

Thanks

[trail spoke]

Thanks

[lunar osprey]

Wtf is that shit build, it not even work in pve, use common sense

[umbral dagger]

You get more from other talents though. Both sides of clip aren’t the best unless you’re running striker or something with stacks. Unless you only shoot like 1/4 of your mag at a time

Iirc measured is closer to 4% not 1% but I forgot

[copper zodiac]

Is there a list of what Disrupt status can prevent?

[upbeat rock]

Why would u listen to non pvp

[sour arch]

How do i fix lagging issues in Division 2?

[tiny stump]

upgrade your pc with ram or something? maybe? your connection might be going to a crappy server region? i dunno it could be lots of reasons that its being laggy

or downgrade your graphics settings. thats worth a try

[sour arch]

i wouldn't say lag but like the game would like freeze, like i can move around but i can't shoot, then after a few seconds i just die.

[tiny stump]

ohhh ok ive had that happen once or twice. no idea why

[lunar osprey]

Not really, in case you not using vigilance, then 30 twd is equal 30 amplifier, because you don't have another twd

I can't tell you measure with X% wd is good, because it depend on builds, but it not that bad in pvp as you think

pvp not just calculate dps, also mag damage and damage of each shot

[oak talon]

rpm=/=dps...... on a standard HE red pvp build especially, you lose dps one the first part of measured, just that the rpm goes up doesnt mean that the dps goes up when the other part of that dps calc is gettting hit harder than what you gain in rpm

[tiny stump]

i think perfect measured on the apartment is pretty good. the first half is great for stacking strikers pretty quick and the second half hits slow but with huge damage numbers

first half of mag is like around 500k and the second half is around 900k or something. (dont put too much weight on those numbers because im just going from memory. its been a long time since i looked at the numbers

actually i remember that the second half is over a million (with strikers anyway)

[lunar osprey]

Not good, with striker worse more, why you stack striker with mpx 25 bullet, but not with aa12? Common sense dude

Also i pretty sure we talking about measure in PVP, right now

[tiny stump]

oh yeah true

[tiny stump]

i dont need to use acs to stack because i dont use the strikers chest piece. i use obliterate

its so not necessary

in pve anyway

whatever man ok its useless, i primarily just use my primary weapon (famas) the whole time from the very start of an engagement anyway. and i destroy enemies fast

[narrow matrix]

If allegro was a talent I feel like pvpers would want it

Was that a talent sometime ago?

Seeing as there’s a perfect version

[lunar osprey]

Before wony there 3 talent on each gun

Allegro is second talent, same with mag size etc.

Before wony, allegro is not popular in pvp, because there not many chance you need that rpm

[tiny stump]

wow you take this stuff very seriously

[lunar osprey]

If i am correct, the meta from tu1-tu7 are lmg > clutch > double barrel> 3 11 7 > double barrel> m1a

I hope i miss nothing

[narrow matrix]

What about the one on railsplitter?

Perfectly accurate

[lunar osprey]

Rail splitter is strong in that time, it was perfect measure

After EB comes out, rail splitter go down

[tiny stump]

hey dont talk about perfect measured being good. ikia will have a meltdown

[narrow matrix]

Insert dad joke

[narrow matrix]

What am I reading here?

Clutch? Is that the backpack talent?

[lunar osprey]

You say allegro was a talent sometime ago
I thought you saying before wony

[narrow matrix]

Oh yea…

But like I’m not sure what it is that “flow chart” thing represents

Was clutch another talent?

What is 3 11 7?

[lunar osprey]

Have you ever play patch before tu8? If not, that is pretty long story

[narrow matrix]

nah I think i came in TU 14 or something could be wrong tho

spring 2021 is when I started playing - moreso into fall 2021

Faye Lau season that lasted like a year?

[lunar osprey]

First you have to know , long time ago guns have 3 talent, first one is main talent, just like those talent we have nowadays
second talent is make those guns stronger in some way, for example rpm( allegro) , mag size, accurate etc..

Why i say allegro wasn't popular before tu8
Because most build need mag size

[narrow matrix]

like div 1? theres 3 talents on exotics and guns I think - but each condition (power, armor, energy I think it was) had to reach a certain threshold to unlock the talents?

[lunar osprey]

Not really, div1 all 3 talent you can choose what talent you use, unless exotic you only can choose 2
But div2 it something like ABC, you have to follow ABC rules, you can't roll it to AAA or ABA or anything else

[lunar osprey]

also, not all but some talent does require attributes, for example some required X red/blue/yellow attributes above, some is less than X attributes

[narrow matrix]

I see

[lunar osprey]

You can search division2 clutch build tu7, or division2 3-11-7 (3/11/7), and you know what build am i talking

Rail splitter ia extremely strong, long time ago......

[narrow matrix]

oh okay thanks for the explanation, thought you were talking about the backpack talent to regen armor

[narrow matrix]

I'll be sure to check it out, I like the c-tar and the railsplitter but its damage drop off is quite high, I might be wrong as I am talking more form experience and feeling. but anything over say 25 meters gets treated as if its an SMG...

its like the chameleon in a sense

[lunar osprey]

So you join this game too late

[narrow matrix]

ain't my fault 😭

[tawny mica]

@narrow matrix If you’re looking for a strong AR I’d suggest one of these two.
Famas - High rate of fire in exchange for damage drop off. Similar to CTAR.
Carbine 7 - Mid range rate of fire with high accuracy and much better range.

Both have excellent accuracy and recoil management

[narrow matrix]

thanks, so the famas does have a significant damage drop off...

thought I was just seeing things wrong

[tawny mica]

It’s very similar to the CTAR. Does a bit more damage

[narrow matrix]

it shreds I won't lie but that might owe into why it eats bullets lol

I can't stand it

[tawny mica]

If you want more range try the Carbine 7

[narrow matrix]

thoughts on p416

quite enjoy it... similar to c7

[tawny mica]

Nothing wrong with it. Damage is a bit low for an AR in my opinion

[narrow matrix]

its optimal range is 28 i think so thats probs why u say that

thats some sketchy shit

[tawny mica]

I used to use the Mechanical Animal when farming in PvE. It does well enough but after you switch to something with more damage (Famas, FAL, Carbine 7) you’ll put it in the stash

[narrow matrix]

they gave eb 35 but p146 variants 26...

[narrow matrix]

eh i like the 556 I like burst dps but switch between all the guns at some point

for harder / more dedicated content tho i use a famas

those lower rpm guns benefit from strained

[tawny mica]

It’s all preference. I know people who prefer the FAL. I’m not a huge fan but it definitely hits like a tank

[narrow matrix]

FAL is very nice indeed

[tawny mica]

Optimist is my go to on everything not status built

[unborn delta]

Where would Scorchers be?

[narrow matrix]

what level are u

[unborn delta]

Lv30

[supple swift]

outcasts

[narrow matrix]

do outcast bounties

[unborn delta]

How do I specify them? I thought they were random?

[narrow matrix]

nowhere else would really have them at that level but most of the outcast bosses in bounties are scorchers

[supple swift]

the mast control point has one easily accessible and its near a safehouse

[narrow matrix]

or u can farm the wildfire in roosevelt island

its something like 20 elite scorchers right

[narrow matrix]

just go around doing public executions for outcasts, do you have the expansion?

[unborn delta]

It says kill 10 of them

[narrow matrix]

elite right

[unborn delta]

Yes, but I havnt got to it yet. Still stuck with the stupid black tusk missions. Almost done though

[subtle kelp]

I feel like I made a huge mistake in first time when I get a first exotic....

[narrow matrix]

then skip the field research, a lot of it you will be repeating in the base game unnecessarily keeping u there longer and some of it will take u more time to do in base game

for example elite scorchers don't really spawn in base game unless the enemy is named

[unborn delta]

So it will be easier later after I finish the black tusk missions? And it’s not more efficient to do them at the same time?

[narrow matrix]

speaking from experience (I did all of them in World tier 4 & 5) without use of demolisher firefly and all that lol

[narrow matrix]

it will be easier after u beat the dlc yes

instead of farming 10 outcast bounties you'll find 10 in 1 heroic mission with group scaling of course

[unborn delta]

Ok. Dumb but thanks for the info 👍🏻

[upbeat rock]

just like ccp 🙂

[gritty vine]

Are the rogue agents considered as named enemies?

[upbeat rock]

rogue agents got no name

[narrow matrix]

If ur asking health yes

[storm river]

Yes

In terms of health and droprates

[crude falcon]

i hear resource convoy is good source for XP, but i don't see many of them ? Should i reset world if i took care all of them ?

[nimble spruce]

If most of your CPs are green then yes, reset them. If they're all red then it won't make much difference, you'll just have to wait for convoy spawns. It's rng at that point.

[narrow matrix]

They don’t tend to spawn at night either

The only ones I’ve seen run at night are outcasts

[crude falcon]

oh thanks

[golden geode]

Wont loging out and back in respawn convoys as well

[lime night]

Was farming dz alot yesterday not one ORBIT,TDI or dark winter. Are those weapons rly that rare of a drop?

[nimble stone]

hi guys, can Hunters hack my sniper turret in countdown?

[subtle kelp]

Yes

They can hack anything to kill you back

Any turret, any drone

[nimble stone]

Dang

[subtle kelp]

So yea...don't bring a any turret or drone when you fight with hunter...

It killed my own teammate before

[nimble stone]

Yeah I thought Sniper turret was immune 😂

[carmine flicker]

Technically it does because the second half of the magazine is more dps than the first half

[vestal bough]

are FI healer rly useless in legendary? i just made one since i rly love to play support roles, but all legendary i joined by matchmake was such a failure

[carmine flicker]

I use them there

[delicate cliff]

A healer is pretty useful in legendary when it's a coordinated group. Personally, I found with PUGs that whenever a healer is present they'll often start thinking they're invincible and start becoming reckless, which is usually when everything starts going sideways

[vestal bough]

thats what happend last 3 legendary 😄 full reds started rushing things 😄 and that was the end of run 😄

[supple swift]

sez hu?
sacrilege

[vestal bough]

😄 i heard someone saying it, but i guess it was just another Central chat BS 😄

[oak talon]

rpm has a function in the dps calc offcourse, but you initial claim was that measured was more dps because of the rpm increase, it isnt that that doesnt the lifting in that talent, its the twd bonus of the second part, still meaning that even technically there, the rpm isnt directly the cause of the dps increase, so no, not even technically true either

[supple swift]

more useful than tanks

[carmine flicker]

I didn’t mention rpm at all. What I meant without saying it was higher rpm makes you get to the second half of the mag faster which deals more dps

And the loss of 30% wd leaves me with effectively one red core since I run three. Pvp builds generally have 4-6 blues so I’m not losing out on much dps if others already run only 1 red

Just by wd not any other factors

[delicate cliff]

That's what I'm saying. 😅 If you like to play a support build with a PUG, though, I'd recommend a foam status build. It's pretty effective even (or especially) with inexperienced groups.

[vestal bough]

im in game like a month or so 😄 im unexpirienced myself 😄

[oak talon]

that second part where it is still doing less than most other talents still is also then not worth it, by the point you reach the halfway point, optimist is likely only 5 bullets behind matching it at that dmg output at that point, and then optimist will overtake it after and just do a ton more

[delicate cliff]

That's no reason to not put that build together and start practicing with it 😜

[carmine flicker]

Well it works and that’s all that matters, no?

I am effectively killing people

Before they can kill me

[vestal bough]

true true 😄 ill look up for that, never tried any status build

[oak talon]

no, its just you saying it work, that is the point, you have provided nothing that is a credible claim, except basically trust me bro, and that will get push back especially since the rest of us can provide numbers to back up our claims, that is why me azur and raucey give you pushback, its that its a bad claim made poorly

and i have killed people with a full purple build in pvp a ton of times, doesnt make purple gear the choice to go with, and definitly not the thing to recommend to others to run

[carmine flicker]

So what do I need now some video evidence?

Just because it may not be optimal for pvp does not mean it works not just from my own experience but from others I’ve seen running it

There will always be people with sub optimal builds that any build can kill but I’ve faced people with god rolls on every piece and I have still defeated them

[umbral dagger]

You can have way worse items and kill people with better builds than you

[oak talon]

the evidence isnt going to come from a vid, you know stuff like this can be easily calculated right,
and its not about it not just being optimal or not, any weapon talent could literally at points get kills as its a minor factor in the final build picture,
but you keep recommending it to others, and its one of the lesser choices when compared to optimist or strained as even talents that dont need much to easily beat it.

[carmine flicker]

I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen someone using strained in pvp

[umbral dagger]

I did frame by frame counting of how long it took to kill a player with one talent over another. Unless you’re playing with stacks, measured is always slower to kill someone

[carmine flicker]

It’s always optimist

Or flatline which is even better than optimist until someone throws on a pulse res build

[subtle kelp]

FI is not really useless =w=

[umbral dagger]

Flatline and sadist are always best, but have counters

[oak talon]

good deflect, i said one talent just because it will still beat measured that isnt optimal on a mostly blue build, and you focus on that, great argumentation, im done with this discussion, the point was that even strained that is less than optimist on a full bluecore build, is still better than measured

[subtle kelp]

Increase damage to me and allies if they not get hit: 35%
+
Perfectly Opportunistic: Enemy damage taken: 15%
+
Scorpion: Enemy damage taken: 20%
Yea, I can go like this all night

I didn't take FI backpack cuz it useless

[supple swift]

minus 5 points for not having sledgehammer

[subtle kelp]

I dun have enough da grenade okie =w=

[supple swift]

i have no idea what you just said

[subtle kelp]

I don't have enough grenade ;-;

[supple swift]

thats easy to fix
after every encounter, once you're out of combat, switch to another loadout with a different specialization.
then switch back to your healer build
this will restock your specialization nades back to full

[subtle kelp]

Noted

[carmine flicker]

Well I don’t want you recommending bad talents either, and I never recommend that talent, I specifically say that’s what I run

I never go like “oh X is what you should run” but I go like “X is what I run”

[oak talon]

i was just going to let you have the last word there and move on, but damn, that one is so tucker carlson lvls of bad that i cant just leave it up uncontested,
when someone ask for a pvp build and you put your version of what you are running there right next to it, then yeah, that is a recommendation, you dont have to intend to recommend something for it to be that, and then going the equivalent of "im not saying anything, im just asking questions" is pure gold, and a admittance that you wont back up you claim at all still.

[fathom spruce]

I think at this point issue is why are we even talking about any of it at all, since technically you could run literally any gear piece, talent, stat, skills, weapon combination you can imagine possible in the game, and still "effectively kill people" if you for example are better in other mechanics of the game (or even by sheer luck)

If something is "good" (in a vacuum really doesn't mean how you call it), doesn't mean there isn't something even better, I feel like it's common to see lot of people using a build in any game and since they feel like it's "good" they hide away from the objective truth of other choices being better (in some, or sometimes, in every way)

So if we'd approach all talents, builds, weapons, attributes with that mindset, we'd have absolutely 0 valuable discussions since everyone could call everything "good" because it worked "well enough" in their case
And no one would ever learn what or why something else could be better because of X and Y with arguments and math backing it up

If "well it works and that's all that matters" is the case, then I think it's better if one just goes and continues to play the game, but if you engage in discussions where we aim to find out what's better, it really doesn't contribute anything to that

Imagine if literally every single time anyone would ask anything about a build whatsoever, someone would come in and say "yeah it's great keep using it don't change it, and don't talk about it or X or Y gets a meltdown" and not give a chance for anyone to help them out to improve it any way, because that build "worked well enough for you"

I'm absolutely happy for you that it's working out well for you and that it's giving you fun and entertainment, but also entertain the idea that some people like to figure out what stuff could be better, backing it up with math and covering edge cases, and to be welcome to such an idea because either you learn something and get even better, or discuss in good faith giving their arguments a good go and potentially find an issue with it and teach them something

People are just trying to help, that's all

[fathom spruce]

to someone coming in to discuss about what's good, to someone new and inexperienced trying to learn to build something better, there's essentially no difference between the two to them when they read it, and you saying that intending the latter still can be easily interpreted as the first by those people who're trying to find out what's good and improve, since why else would you state what you use if not to suggest them "hey, this could be the answer to your question of what's better"

I hope you don't take this a bad way and hope you understand where others are coming from and consider what other people might be after

[umbral dagger]

So can we go back to discussing tank builds instead of measured 😉

[silver linden]

Is the warlords of new york dlc worth it? Just got to level 30 and wondering if I should get it

[nimble spruce]

if you like the game and want to play more then yes, definitely - dlc adds loads more content and long-term progression (and if you want to play with others, most of them have it)

[umbral dagger]

Yes, it is worth it

[rain echo]

To be able to do the manhunts yes

[umbral dagger]

You don’t get end game content if you don’t have it

[rain echo]

Without warlords you can't do the manhunts and iirc tmrw the new season drops so

You can do raids at level 30 but your gonna need to get carried pretty hard

Warlords is usually on sale alot

It's 12$ cad here rn might be cheaper where you are

[golden berry]

closer backpack right?

[subtle kelp]

Closer is chest

[subtle kelp]

That's The setup Backpack

[visual kestrel]

what's reconfigure? should i do that to get good stat?

[subtle kelp]

You get exotic in final

There are 3 parts anyway, that's part 1

[visual kestrel]

but what if i alr have exotics?

[subtle kelp]

Which one?

[silver linden]

Oh damn I didn't realize this was the case, guess I'll have to get it then. Just out of curiosity is there any endgame activity with just the base game?

[visual kestrel]

uh... like this? i just asked if i have for example... chamaleon. when i reconfigured it, does it change the stat?

[umbral dagger]

Reconfiguring is like getting a new drop

Random new stats just like you got in the first place

[foggy field]

You can reconfigure you're exotics to try and get better stats but personally I don't think it's worth it. Every time you reconfigure you burn an exotic component. I think you'd be better off just optimizing them

[visual kestrel]

thanks for enlighten me.. i genuinely confused manage build unlike div1 xd

[vestal bough]

Ofc optimize, but reconfigure to the stats you can max out

[foggy field]

Reconfigure changes the rolls. For example the Chameleon always has crit chances as an attribute. All it does is reroll all the stats. Sometimes you get better rolls sometimes you get worse

[subtle kelp]

Yes

[floral sluice]

Any idea about when the stream is happening?

[wraith flare]

<t:1677510900:t> / <t:1677510900:R>

[pearl canopy]

can this be found in discovery mode aswell or only normal // can i use an alt for the boss loot to get them

[late oar]

Only normal

[pearl canopy]

Sad 😦 thanks bro, if i was to run it on another character and say only clear the first boss with friends think that would work?

[late oar]

Probably

Since you can share materials between characters

[pearl canopy]

i'll give it ago thanks for the help!

[surreal vault]

I found dagov’s key in the mission, but my game crashed and now the mission is over. Did i just miss out on some sick loot?

[dim crag]

Probably not

[storm river]

No

[surreal vault]

Lemme rephrase that. Did i miss out on loot

Like a lil loot stache

[sacred edge]

When a build guide mentions cores they mean the gear icons right?
Do certain brands always have a number of core spots? I don't have any in front of me so I don't remember. Is it possible to get more core slots for gear and how do you increase your chance of that happening?

[foggy needle]

They mean main attribute core of gear (ie weapon damage, armor or skill tier)

Core attributes are fixed in all gear, but can be recalibrates like normal.

The pinned spreadsheet lists all the cores by gear.

Example: strikers gear set main core is weapon damage, (aka red core)
gila brand is armor (aka blue)
Hann U core is skill tier (aka yellow)

[sacred edge]

if its the spreadsheet I'm looking at I don't see that area I just see attribute ranges

What about the secondary cores?

You only get to recalibrate one thing on a piece of gear which means everything else needs to be good with one thing that needs to be changed which is kind of lame

[foggy needle]

go to the brands tap or the gear set tab it shows there

secondary cores are random with the 1st one being weighted to drop more often as matching color to main core.

[sacred edge]

That shows the core attribute, but isn't that guide talking about the other ones?

[foggy needle]

this picture note is ONLY talking about the main cores,

[sacred edge]

That same guide then goes on to say this
So different gear then because if the major attribute is tied to gear wouldn't the gear be differen't then the original recommendations, ones with armor as the main core?

[foggy needle]

the secondary stats are proabably mentioned above that note.

AH there you go

No you can still recalibrate the main core. (1 thing per item) so just means you have to farm the gear for stats you want.

[sacred edge]

That confusing so its says you want the most red core/attributes, but then to change some to armor? That would then require for the other parts of that gear to be perfect so you can use your one recalibration on change it to armor no?

Also the CH/CHD statement below also doesn't make much sense. What comparion are they trying to make there?

[foggy needle]

The math part is just if you want to further min max, use the guides on the top section (the 50 / 100% part)

[foggy needle]

Yes it requires the other sub stats to be near perfect so you can recalibrate the main core to what you want.

Ie farming takes time

Can use optimization to bump up the near perfect stats to be perfect after (again takes farming time)

[sacred edge]

aint no one got time for that :\ is there like a good enough chart somewhere where you just need stats like these to make a good enough build?

[foggy needle]

Nope

[oak talon]

we all agreed that nobody got time for that and noone ever made any calculations ever, also there likely isnt any build pictures at the bottom at the very guide you plucked that segment from that you could copy from 😛

[sacred edge]

Oh yea? Go ahead and tell me what cores they are using and at what percent's

[oak talon]

are you asking about the chc/chd or the actual %-tage on the red core?

[foggy needle]

cores you can see the colors, % are assumed max (as the picture is to show the GOAL of the build, when under said goal, use the best you have until you get there).

[oak talon]

as you can assume as much as possible, if all you are after is good enough as you said, once you want to min max, there is either copying from someone that did calcs, or do them yourself

also maybe these will be more usefull to you if you are after specifically what stats aswell, just not as new player friendly as the guides:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPnA18PDgGg_dEbNI1kZVTVIMGXNHQS_

[sacred edge]

I mean are those cores all chd/chc? I mean theres one armor, I guess thats the one they mentioned as ahving an armor core for defense, but doesn't seem like much of a balance when they only have one

[sacred edge]

Not sure what this shows?

[oak talon]

blue cores on a build are always going to be about personal preference and playstyle, and they are mostly there for gettin a extra buffer with a shield, go all red for more dakka and dont use a shield and play with cover and positioning, or use a few blue cores and a shield to get into enemies faces and just kill them quickly

[sacred edge]

Well that explains some of my recent deaths..

[foggy needle]

also FYI Cores are the main attribute ONLY. for the other stats people just say what stat they are Ie crit chance/ crit damage/ skill damage etc...

[sacred edge]

What?

[oak talon]

also is this pve or pvp talk, as in pvp its basically as many blue cores as you can and unbreakable and adren rush as the current trading meta

[sacred edge]

this would be pve

[foggy needle]

there are only 3 core attributes in the game:
Red = Weapon damage
Blue = Armor
yellow = skill tier.

the other stats on items are called secondary attributes (ie skill damage, skill haste, crit chance, armor regen etc......) and shown BELOW the Core attribute section when looking at gear.

when people say "its a blue core" they mean the main stat at the top of the gear stats section"
if i say "its a blue core" i mean the item is Armor as its main core attribute.

[sacred edge]

How are you able to get maxed stats on all attributes? Like I assume you found one with the right talent and two maxed stats?

[craggy osprey]

optimize

[sacred edge]

Oh, so you just need to get the attributes you want, max on by recalibration and the rest by optimization?

[foggy needle]

yup

[sacred edge]

ok thats not as bad as I thought

[foggy needle]

closer to max roll, the cheaper it will be to optimize though.

so still want highish rolls

[nova flower]

anyone know how to close these up?

beside the obvious daily/weekly

[narrow matrix]

Ur missing 2 settlement projects which rewards the bounties - both of which are in DC

Or safe house projects

But still in dc

[vocal fiber]

do I have to unlock specialization per character?

[foggy needle]

yes

[dawn tide]

is anyone able to explain the difference between damage to target out of cover and damage to armor only thing i know is that one is Multiplicative and one isnt

[foggy needle]

everything is Multiplicative and additive to them selfs , except amps are never additive.

damage to target out of cover only applies to targets not glued to a cover.
damage to armor only applies to damage to armor and not to health. (ie the white health bar)

[dawn tide]

so what makes damage to targets out of cover better?

is it just the fact that it applies to health as well as armor where as damage to armor dosent

[foggy field]

the attribute for target out of cover goes up to 10. For armor it only goes up to 6. Also once a targets armor is gone the effect stops. But with out of cover as long as they aren't in cover it still works

[foggy needle]

its almost always active (works vs heavies and robots too) targets are out of cover like 90%+ and can be easily knocked out of cover

also on weapons it rolls higher 10% instead of 6%.

DTA doesnt work against red enemies and purples only have 50% armor

[vocal fiber]

and ars haveinnate dmg to health

[dawn tide]

thanks for the info main reason i was asking is i have honey badger with damage to armor where i can roll the talent but havent been able to get one with damage to targets out of cover so was just curious if i would be worth it

[foggy needle]

i can post the Short weapon damage formula, if that may help you ?@dawn tide

damage to armor on weapons is still good enough, its just that DTOOC is much better

[dawn tide]

ah ok cool

thanks for the help

[storm river]

If you have DTA and a crap talent id stick with DTA and reroll the talent, until you get one with dttooc where you can reroll the talent and keep dttooc

[sacred edge]

when you say reroll a talent what does that mean?

[foggy needle]

Means use the recalibrate station to change the talent

[sacred edge]

Ok thats what I thought

[clever ocean]

do higher difficulties

heroic/leg drop better rolled gear

[sacred edge]

You need good gear to do higher difficulties don't you? Kind of a catch 22

[foggy needle]

for leg yes but not for heroic.

heroic just needs a good build (rolls dont need to be near maxed)

also you can do countdown with a trash build, just let the others carry you on challenging difficulty lol

[nimble stone]

is using Artificier hive with assault/sniper turret any different from actually deploying the hive?

the turret gets buffed with the hive on my back similar to a shield

[foggy needle]

nope same thing

deploying just lets you toss it

[halcyon needle]

What's the fastest way to change between grenades frag and specialized?

[nimble stone]

neat

[foggy needle]

use loadout slots

[halcyon needle]

Hmm i mean keyboards button

[storm river]

No

[carmine flicker]

Yeah they sound very similar at first but are actually different. I'm not recommending you to use any of the pieces I run it is to give you an idea of what a pvp build should generally look like. It can be related to the spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice where the builds there are not meant to be copied but rather built upon. Use what I say as a way to make your own build

[foggy needle]

well depends on the build. like some of those builds are the min max already (ie cant be built upon)

[carmine flicker]

Well yeah especially for the pvp builds there will always be multiple optimal builds meant to cover the same topic, that topic being pvp

[sacred edge]

I had 4 pieces of hunter fury and some decent other gear and I still got destroyed on a manhunt bounty, not sure how I could do heroic when those are just challenging. Then again I was running challenging with two directives on some missions so I feel like their "challenging" is a bit more, but even still its they aren't walk in the park.

[carmine flicker]

Well those manhunt bounties are really hard even for experienced players with really good builds

[foggy needle]

the jump from challenging to heroic is pretty big, and then another jump from heroic to legendary.

also what he said ^^

[versed pumice]

Kinda

[foggy needle]

heroic and up also requires smart play (unlike challenging and lower)

[dawn tide]

dont we technically have 2 different versions of heroic difficulty due to raids and countdown?

[crude falcon]

where i can find old Manhunt mission ?

[foggy field]

Your picture has the answer

[versed pumice]

Nope

U got 4 man heroic n u got 8 man in cd

[honest nymph]

the top line in the description says it pretty straightforward

[carmine flicker]

Lol yeah legendary is harder than heroic but I consider it the easiest difficulty. I go in with a different mindset than normal-heroic so it becomes easier for me

[foggy needle]

well raids dont have heroic mode, Countdown does and its higher then normal heroic though.

[crude falcon]

Sry but i cant catch ur answer, it say it permanently unlock, but where i can start the manhunt? New to game

[honest nymph]

Jefferson
Trade
Center

[dawn tide]

click on the mission and it should give you the option to toggle the mission to its manhunt version

[honest nymph]

just switch mission mode to Manhunt, shoot stuff dont die collect loot

[crude falcon]

So i dont need to do 4 intel thingy, and just go straight to last mission of previous manhunt?

[dawn tide]

no

[carmine flicker]

For previous manhunts no

[dawn tide]

is it worth running spotter flatline with honey badger considering you lose a mod slot

[storm river]

C7 is basically the same but you dont lose a mod slot

[carmine flicker]

The top 3 ars are the famas, police m4, and car7

Kingbreaker is also nice

[dawn tide]

i saw someone saying honey badger had the highest dps the other day i guess they where wrong?

[foggy needle]

the description of the man hunt says "Jefferson Trade Center" so you will find his mission at that location.

[carmine flicker]

Honey badger is good but below the 3 I mentioned

And there are multiple ways to describe dps

[crude falcon]

Got it, thanks for the explain

[storm river]

Honey badger is solid but isnt top 3 because its missing that 4th mod slot

[foggy needle]

Honey badger is a mid tier AR

[carmine flicker]

Like burst dps (which the famas is best in class for) or damage per mag

Or sustained dpm

[foggy needle]

King breaker beats Famas FYI 😛 in burst dps

[dawn tide]

wait what

[foggy needle]

"wait what" to what??

[dawn tide]

kingbreaker beats famas

thats interesting

[foggy needle]

ah, yes it beats it in burst dps with talent of course

[carmine flicker]

I count base stats

[storm river]

+20% amped with flatline

[carmine flicker]

I don’t include talents or any modifiers

[clever ocean]

kingbreaker is insanely high dps lol

[storm river]

Flatline is a nutty talent

[carmine flicker]

Base famas is the best

In burst dps

[foggy needle]

base stats yes it doesnt beat famas BUT Kingbreaker beats a flat line famas. in burst dps (not that you run flatline on famas though)

[clever ocean]

the only issue with kingbreaker is that it has slow RPM, making it less synergistic with stacking damage

azur is correct here

[storm river]

Also less stable and accurate

[clever ocean]

ya the recoil is hard to control

[storm river]

What are the range values on tkb vs famas?

[clever ocean]

kingbreaker is worse

[foggy needle]

normal TKB is just a mid tier AR

[dawn tide]

what talent would you run on famas for pve strained and optimist im guessing

[clever ocean]

strained or fasthands

[storm river]

Optimist or fast hands

Strained loses value at higher RPMS, optimist doesnt

[carmine flicker]

But it is still better than optimist until 1200 rpm which only the vector reaches

[foggy needle]

For Famas and all AR top talents: Flatline, Strained, Sadist, In Sync, Fast Hands, Ranger, Notable mentions: Preservation (but famas not worth running flatline as cant run tech laser)

like always depends on build.

[foggy needle]

Strained is still a ~8-9% dps boost on famas (still top tier). it doesnt loss value until 1200 rpm but only vector has that.

[carmine flicker]

A few things I want to point out are that sadist requires a source of bleed and in sync requires the use of non-shield skills

[dawn tide]

currently for my striker i switch between badger C7 m4 and kingbreaker was thinking of testing famas since you get the handling

[foggy needle]

of course, hence the "depends on build"

like insync requires turret or drone to be good, but still good (also combos nicely with GC for even more skill dps on Red builds)

[dawn tide]

am i the only one who thinks custom l86 lsw is one of the best lmgs?

[carmine flicker]

It’s an lmg that tries to be an assault rifle while having everything an lmg has

It’s like the chameleon where it classified as an assault rifle but is really an smg

[honest nymph]

at least they are better than a shotty with ranger....js

or m700 with Close and Personal...

[clever ocean]

I kinda wish that LMGs were made a bit more attractive

during the story they were fun to use due to suppression aspect and the large clip size

but the downsides in higher difficulties like lack of shield and poor handling are really big downsides

[versed pumice]

Same but I use shields so 😔

[narrow matrix]

Decoy is good to draw aggro off u, banshee pulse / blinder firefly to gain some firepower time

It’s usable i main LMGs a lot cause ARs don’t hit them weakpoints like LMGs

[worn pilot]

is the general anderson xp farm still viable

[foggy field]

Nope

[subtle kelp]

They patched it and Im happy about that

[latent spade]

anyone have any idea of what timezones S11 goes live?

[subtle kelp]

Already live I belive

And already post the news thing as well

[oak talon]

the servers go down at these times, if the maintenance goes without issues its 3 hours after that they come up, once up its the new season :
#division-tweets message

[subtle kelp]

More crash >:D

Morw stutter!!!

MORE DISCONNECTTTTT
EVEN MORE CRASSSSHHHHHH

[latent spade]

Thank you very much 🙂

[vagrant pollen]

i’m new ish to the game how do i get the coyote mask

[subtle kelp]

Drop by named or boss hyena

Thats mask is exotic, chance to drop is low

[vagrant pollen]

so there’s no good way to farm it other then hyena

[subtle kelp]

Each faction wil drop their exotic gears

[subtle kelp]

Best your luck, chance will increase when targeted loot is a mask one

[oak talon]

you can also just farm it with targeted loot, coyote in JTC is a specific source (also not just any named/boss hyena, but her specifically), but the droprate will work out the be about the same if you do countdown with targeted loot set to masks, and youll get more other loot out of it aswell

also you can always check this sheet for what exo drops where, and if they have prerequisites as some do:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTJEX5DerCvOj3a_m36TRy1gPBAUvrduOIdmXI9j1Y0MpQk1wIXaZ9KOcPa7HzXzp_N5qGmjDj6yEfL/pubhtml#

under Exotic Drop Locations and Chances tab

[vagrant pollen]

is there a cap on running countdown ?

[clever ocean]

yes. if you run it too many times your head explodes and you die from dysentery

[vagrant pollen]

thanks

can i get the chameleon from countdown ?

[hallow raptor]

Drops from bounties pretty regularly, the higher the difficulty the better the drop rate. Even better if the area is AR targeted loot.

[subtle kelp]

Bounty only

[narrow matrix]

That’s wrong you can get chameleon from AR targeted loot or as a random drop exotic. It has a higher chance in bounties as a open world drop exotic.

So yes you can get it from countdown @vagrant pollen

[copper zodiac]

is there a way to change the color of your Apperal?
I've seen the white hats with Headsets & Symbol from the clan shop and wondered if I could change its dye

[subtle kelp]

Thats operator hat, drop from legendary difficult

The headset one 1 side, right?

[subtle kelp]

Thought only drop in bounty D:

[copper zodiac]

Whats a recommended AR that has DMG & Range

Ik the FAMAS or anything higher than 800 ROF are popular but I’m thinking of something with mellow recoil incase I have to shoot something at least 45 Meters away or longer

[subtle kelp]

Well, king breaker can do that

Far range + good damage =v=

But recoil is like ak

[copper zodiac]

I mean its 7.62 which are most AKs
also I was using it earlier.
Can hardly hit stuff but then again that's just me being less than 500 SHD lvls or a major skill issue

[subtle kelp]

I mean, far range + good damage...but recoil is your control

@copper zodiac

How I can find this hat? Since me and awesomeV87 looking for it too

[copper zodiac]

I have the hat (Clan Vendor)
I'm asking if I can change the color

[copper zodiac]

I mean free 20% total WPN dmg is something I'm not gonna complain about

Just curious if I can run any alternatives

[meager elbow]

@inner tendon

it's demon mask but when i go to building and shoot targets nothing happens

[inner tendon]

oh Demon, that is probably the easiest one to get to spawn.
Are you shooting all 4 targets from top to bottom? I can't recall if order matters, but it's worth a try.

[meager elbow]

i tried for 20 mins

shot in various orders

nothing happened

[inner tendon]

Try waiting for daily/weekly reset (the timer is in the Projects menu) and attempting again.

[meager elbow]

okie

i'll try tomorrow and see if it works

thx rivens the nice A.I

[inner tendon]

To be clear, you've done the "Agent Edwards Support" in your own instance, right?

[meager elbow]

is that where you get ambushed by a hunter at the end?

i think i did that but didn't kill the hunter cuz they disappeared

[inner tendon]

No worries, as long as you have done that and haven't killed the Hunter (Demon) before, you'll be fine.

If problems persist, try joining someone else's world and you can obtain it via that.

[meager elbow]

yeah i haven't killed demon before. if it doesn't work i'm gonna see if someone can make a new character and invite me

that should work right?

[inner tendon]

No need for a new character, just someone who hasn't completed that Hunter before.
I'm sure you can find a newer player on the #lfg-pc channel.

This is really stretching my memory, haven't done that fight since 2019.

[meager elbow]

[fallow inlet]

Hey Rivens how are you doing

Hey Seraphite

Oh there's Skarlet

[copper zodiac]

Any recommendations what “pvp/quest” only exotic I should get since I cant get dodge city?

[proper coral]

Er.. got an error mid mission felt sad even though I’m two level away from level 30

Now I rest lmao

[dim crag]

Everyone can get DCH?

You need to start the quest from the crafting lady

[copper zodiac]

Its the last quest I’m stuck at.
Ppl say just get to the cafe spot before 12 O clock PM ingame time, I keep missing the timing or not sure when to come over

[lime night]

Is there any go to spot to get this done quick? Any veteran got tip?

[gritty vine]

Does anybody knows at what time the weekly resets(invasion) happens?

I know today is big update day but i want to know will i be able to see the invasion missions for this week before going into maintenance.

[dusk vortex]

There's one in the CP on the upper left corner of the white house area

Also encounters in the cooling tower of Countdown could work

[lime night]

[spiral basin]

navy plaza or the nest is a decent option

[dusk vortex]

Actually the fallen cranes also near a safehouse lol

[stoic bear]

Does upgrading the specialization increase only specialization weapon, or primary gun damaged or both

[oak talon]

if you are talking about expertise, for expertise grades on the spec weapon, its the spec weapon only (used to be bugged if you are following old info, where it did increase main weapon dmg, no longer does)

[copper zodiac]

Only special weapon.

There’s already a separate tree that u can spend 15 points to increase a weapon type DMG by 15% total.

Unless ur talking expertise then the previous dude might have answer above?

[vocal fiber]

what are the normalized values based on

[dense kettle]

is descent out yet? or next season?

[unborn delta]

Didn’t the text thingy say it was supposed to be this season for solo player and then co-op later, but they made the choice to delay it and release both at the same time?

Also, how do I get gear score 400? so I can fraking continue the storyline since I’m not allowed to turn off the stupid world tier system. 😒

[carmine flicker]

Equip gear with a higher gear score

[unborn delta]

Have been, still stuck at 387

Everything keeps dropping at low score

[carmine flicker]

Well that’s just bad rng. Don’t worry, getting bette gear becomes even harder at wony

[unborn delta]

I just want to finish the storyline lol 😂 god, such poor design not being able to turn off the stupid forced world tier crud 😑

[nimble spruce]

I don't think you still need to meet specific gear score requirements to go up world tiers, just completing the strongholds will do it (although it will get harder if you are undergeared). If you keep upgrading your bench you can also craft better gear.

[delicate cliff]

Next season. The earliest we gonna see it is gonna be the PTS for Y5S1

[gritty vine]

hey can i play expedition in coop mode. and is it only playable once or i can play it more than once until the time limit

[nimble spruce]

Yes, and you can replay as much as you like this week.

[gritty vine]

and i can get diamondback every time i finish expedition?

[nimble spruce]

I think only first time, but never tried beyond that. If you want to farm exotics there are much faster ways.

Run it once and see what you think

[fresh vault]

So, I got Puck's Nemesis and now I can't reconfigure it and Inaya doesn't have the blueprint? What gives?

[subtle kelp]

Weird teach...

Dropped by rogue agent be like

[nimble spruce]

Someone else just shared one that didn't have any attributes at all, they must have messed something up

[gritty vine]

damn you are very unlucky

[subtle kelp]

Oh, they also change directives as well

[carmine flicker]

Yeah directives change every season

[fresh vault]

How so?

[gritty vine]

yeah they also changed cool skill directive

[gritty vine]

you crafted gun on crafting bench

do you have gun?

[fresh vault]

Yes

[gritty vine]

then wait for day or hour that happens sometimes

[fresh vault]

-_-

And what if nothing happens?

[nimble spruce]

Then raise a ticket with Ubisoft support

[vague idol]

if anything, he looks like a fortnite character to me lol

[fresh vault]

Cool

[nimble spruce]

Or just farm a better one and junk the one with bad rolls

[mild oriole]

and look like a youtuber or a streamer or some shhh

[unborn delta]

Nope. Says I’m not allowed to continue unless I have gear score 400.

[subtle kelp]

Ikr!!

He's more like fortnite character for me

[gritty vine]

or create new character and try farming with someone and get bp in that account you can always share blueprints

[unborn delta]

But it’s fine, I soloed a hard mission and got a few guns past 400, since the MM didn’t pop for 20 minutes

Such a dumb system 😑

[valid bronze]

Idk how I feel about the new directives

[lime night]

Anything broken atm or we gucci?

[valid bronze]

Fragile armor is such a pain because of the bug

[vague idol]

atleast they know how to break appearance too

[lime night]

So what is broken here?

[vague idol]

look at the backpack, solid black yet different colors

[lime night]

Oh its still white after dark die

[vague idol]

the white and black doesnt look too bad but on different builds i have its just black rather than white and black, which seems weird tbh

[pearl canopy]

where my skill core go and my Armor 😦

[inland moat]

Have you actually lost a skill core - ie, suddenly tier 5 or whatever?

I need to log in and update as I have a CG equipped

[pearl canopy]

yep

[valid bronze]

Wth😂

[pearl canopy]

and missing the armor too

[dim crag]

Bruh lmao

[valid bronze]

How do they always do this shit

[dim crag]

Broke Closer last time