off-topic-discussions

[wispy solstice]

u asked quote " so 1 can always murder and see it as good and get away with it"

[waxen drift]

how do we define good and evil

[random skiff]

That depends on your system of values.

[wispy solstice]

and I responded with death penalty

[waxen drift]

yeah but thats not an argument

thats how you see it, but thats not a given

[random skiff]

Where do you get your moral compass from. Religion, environment you were raised in, an innate sense of self-worth, what?

[wispy solstice]

common sense

if the stove is hot, don't touch

[waxen drift]

@random skiff you're much closer than @wispy solstice 's subjectivity

[random skiff]

I should be after 4 years of it lol.

[waxen drift]

to 1 common sense is to murder to protect, whilst for another 1 it's the opposite

some call murder love

just as an example

[random skiff]

anyway, "common sense" is entirely subjective. What is moral for you is not moral for me.
Take my sexuality for example. I've been told by "morally upstanding" people before that I am wrong for how I was born.

[waxen drift]

@random skiff exactly

[wispy solstice]

murder has never been evil or good, just simply a means to an end, which is survive. Its society has a whole that's come to the conclusion in general that murder is "evil"

[random skiff]

I guess the question is: do you only act with morals because you fear the consequences?

[waxen drift]

well murder is definitely evil. It's not the same as killing, which can be good

the 2 words are not the same at all

[random skiff]

And what about negligent homicide?

[wispy solstice]

semantics

[waxen drift]

anything that goes against the will of another as a base golden rule can be seen as an infringrement

[random skiff]

You really should not give 1 or 2 word answers. It undermines your reasoning.

Like I somewhat agree with it, but making it bite-sized is just asking for pain

[wispy solstice]

that what is killing, murder, etc call it what u want, its all the same

[waxen drift]

killing != murder, killing can be done out of self defence, whilst murder has no valid reason of any kind

[random skiff]

The death penalty for example, I do not believe it is a good thing. In actuality countries that actually have it, it often costs more to put someone to death than it does to keep them in prison for 40 years.

[wispy solstice]

personally, I have no qualms over it

humans have been doing it since the beginning. we tell ourselves this and that, but it hasn't stopped

[waxen drift]

yeah but that doesnt mean its "good"

[random skiff]

Take Ted Bundy for instance, he went through 10 years of appeal processes before he was put to death. After he was proven "without a shadow of a doubt" that he was guilty.

[waxen drift]

if people had empathy they would never do this

so do we call empathy good? it is imho

personally i love psychology, if you also in to it would highly recommend carl jung and summarized version from michael tsarion

[wispy solstice]

in ted bundy's twisted mind, he may have thought what he was doing was good, or at the very least it wasn't wrong

[waxen drift]

it defines good vs evil in a long constructive thought process

[wispy solstice]

humans will always, continue, and forever see each as threats

its how we're innately wired.

no different than any other species

[waxen drift]

i don't humanity living more than a few millenia from here on out

[random skiff]

Actually IIRC he didn't have any thoughts of good or bad about it, it's just something he did.

[waxen drift]

technology gonna wipe us all out, for the simple reason people didn't live up to their potential, whilst inherit call for freedom, people are too afraid to take action

what defines a terrorist?

an enemy of the state or the state itself for a freedomfighter?

are we all one or are we allness?

[wispy solstice]

that label is given by someone who doesn't agree with that person's ideologies

[waxen drift]

yeah, so language is a construct of the mind

then we have to dig deeper to find intentions

i dont think humanity is ready for that

and therefore the things you mentioned will always happen in to perptuality

[wispy solstice]

ideologies is what gotten us into all this mess we're seeing now

[waxen drift]

its deeper than that

it goes in to believes and ego as well

[wispy solstice]

our mind is the both worst weapon ever "created", and ironiclly need for our species to survive because as a species we suck at everything

[waxen drift]

yep

and detachment from nature

there were experiments done with vegan food vs real meat that cats could eat, they left out all the vegan stuff, whilst humans have no idea and just eat it, just an example

when you observe the masses, it's like a freak show, especially now

maybe the 3rd world war is the war for the mind

its something majority is losing

well lets see after 2025, remind me 😉 @wispy solstice @random skiff

[wispy solstice]

killing has always kept us in check. Just about the only thing humans r good at - destruction

[random skiff]

I too read emo poetry when I was 13.

[sacred snow]

That’s really deep philosophy you guys got there

[shy vine]

Only thing Coney Island needs, is a GTA IV reference.

[shy vine]

there is a pokemon marathon on pokemon's twitch channel btw

[sacred snow]

Wat

[random skiff]

So, how's everyone enjoying SeizurePunk 2077 so far?

[sacred snow]

I completed the game in 3 hours using my YouTube Gaming Emulator

[random skiff]

If they don't do a day-1 patch to fix it, it could kill people.

[sacred snow]

What happened?@

I did not notice anything strange thou

Or maybe I’m blind idk

[random skiff]

https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/12/07/cyberpunk-2077-epileptic-psa

[astral stump]

Wow hating on cyberpunk... I personally think it was a good game

[random skiff]

It has the potential to kill people, whether it's a good game or not is irrelevant here.

[astral stump]

And how can it kill ppl

This I gotta hear

[amber horizon]

Epilepsy, B.

There are sequences where the screen flashes quickly, similar to the way that doctors INDUCE EPILEPTIC SEIZURES.

[random skiff]

Read the article for the full explanation of why it's worse than normal.

[astral stump]

Well those people shouldn’t be gaming at all

That their fault not the developers

[random skiff]

Wow man, just wow.

[astral stump]

I’m just saying if I had it I wouldn’t be gaming

[random skiff]

I'm legit stunned that someone would actually say that.

[astral stump]

Like I said health issues comes first and is priority

[amber horizon]

dude its not something you can just turn off, and people with it shouldnt need to stop gaming

[astral stump]

Well they are putting themselves at risk, I’m entitled to my opinion much as anyone else is

[random skiff]

The devs of CP chose to add in a sequence of flashing that can react very strongly to Epileptics, much stronger than most media ever add in.

The only warning for Epilepsy in-game is in the EULA.

They endangered people, I genuinely hope this raises some hell for them.

[astral stump]

Don’t you think you should be mad at developers and not the people playing it?

Let me ask you this who choose to make the game in the first place? The developers, that is who you be frustrated at

[amber horizon]

they arent mad at the people playing

[random skiff]

I'm angry at the devs for being so careless, and I'm angry at you for saying that people with Epilepsy are to be blamed.

[astral stump]

Y’all take gaming WAY too seriously

[amber horizon]

Sure its a pasttime, but in this case it could hurt people.

[astral stump]

I mean way too seriously

And at end of the day the people and society as a whole, always got a choice to what game they want to play

[amber horizon]

Yes, but this game DOESNT TELL YOU EXPLICITLY THAT IT MAY TRIGGER EPILEPSY

[random skiff]

This can literally kill people and it gives no warning to one of the most hyped releases of the last decade.

[astral stump]

I got a warning idk how you didn’t

[random skiff]

Read the article, I know you haven't looked at it yet.

[astral stump]

I been looked at it. Can’t tell me what I did or didn’t do

I didn’t know you could read minds

[random skiff]

you literally said that people with epilepsy are at fault for playing a game where the flashing light sequences are much stronger than normal without any warning.

[random skiff]

there

[astral stump]

We can go on and on and on all day

[random skiff]

I haven't heard something so cruel in a long time.

[astral stump]

Trust me I got all day so if you wanna argue we can settle it NOW or we can block each other

Society is always gonna be cruel it’s cruel where ever you go

[astral stump]

And cyberpunk is actually working on that issue problem solved. And confirmed on Twitter.

[paper mortar]

Cyberpunk said that it will add a warning , in eula there is mentioned that it can cause epilepsy . Besides everyone saw the trailers , the colors etc , so its just common sense for someone that has that type of an issue , not too play the game

[sacred snow]

Yeah would love to have a switch to cut those scenes off

[paper mortar]

people today are soooo sensitive

its disgusting

[astral stump]

I agree

[shrewd hearth]

cyberpunk 2077 affects all types of epilepsy. thoughts?

[shrewd hearth]

ah yes. people are sensitive because a dev included the base level of warning for a game that has a higher than average chance of causing seizures in people with all different types of epilepsy which they have no control over. yes people are being over sensitive

usually games only affect certain types of epilepsy but no. cp2077 affects most if not all and people are sensitive for being concerned for others

[paper mortar]

Again , u see colors pop . Its just common sense not too touch it until devs tone it down .

yes its bad devs didnt include a warning in a visible place

but being ass hurt about it is dumb

[sacred snow]

The warnings were not enough

[paper mortar]

People are such snowflakes

its funny

[sacred snow]

You can go to a hospital for that level of seizure,is that “too sensitive”?

[paper mortar]

my stand is , it is common sense not too touch a game that has colors , flashing screens everywhere when u have the condition

warning just frees the devs from the responsibility

[astral stump]

As said of you don’t do research you putting YOUR health at risk

[shy vine]

Hiiii

[sacred snow]

Hiiii

[amber horizon]

Hiiii

[slender rune]

Actual do you mind posting my previous posr here.... where i should post it or not?

Post*

@amber horizon

[amber horizon]

Hm?

[slender rune]

Well i posted an of topic post in general... by acident

Can i repost it here?

[amber horizon]

Go ahead...?

[astral stump]

Kind of glad we don’t have a meme page in the discord

[shrewd hearth]

there is actually no places to post imaged or media

which is good and bad

[astral stump]

Depends on which your on so yea there is that

[slender rune]

Anyone knows when the steelseries engine 3 update will come that will add ps5 compatibility for headsets

Been ages since they posted about it.... now it shows as future update but its been some time now...

[shrewd hearth]

you may want to ask in the steel series discord bc they may be more knowledgeable about the topic

[slender rune]

Y no1 is answering i think they dont know it eather

[shrewd hearth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slender rune]

😁👍

[astral stump]

Would you rather lose and learn what to improve or would you rather win all of the time and learn nothing new?

[midnight sequoia]

i would prefer to lose and learn, but in context, let's say, RTS games, i would for example, lose because i'm new to the whole thing during Red alert, but i learn the tactics, be happy about it and after that, i've move to Starcraft, with the lesson learned , apply them, and didnt lose and be happy. On the other hand, FPS games, which in essense, have the same rule - point and click at other guy's head (R6S) or hit someone enough times (CS), losing a round and have the guys on other side insulting me would still be a bad experience

[wispy solstice]

was reading thru some of the reviews for cyber. Why r ppl still surprised at day 1 issues w/ new games? Its the same song and dance: game gets all hyped up for months, then it gets released and ppl r out w/ pitchforks bitching about glitches/bugs. Perhaps all the delays should have been an indication that something wasn't going right, or the articles that came out a few weeks after the last delay annoucement about all the crunches going on. Maybe if ppl didn't pre-order and/or buy on the 1st day, they wouldn't feel cheated. SMH

[sacred snow]

They delayed the game for 7 fucking years,of course people will demand more

Yes,bugs are common on freshly-launched games,but shouldn’t for a game that gets hyped for almost a decade and gave people ptsd just for looking at a yellow wall of text

[short mirage]

@sacred snow who delayed cyberpunk 7 years?

😅

[sacred snow]

Check the trailer date,would ya?

[short mirage]

Pretty sure initial release date was spring 2020, then the game got delayed twice. That 7 years ago or whenever we saw the game cgi trailer it was probably still pre-production team, what was 50, what started working on they game after the finished blood and wine dlc for witcher

[sacred snow]

I think i got it a bit wrong,since it was just an announcement,but people still waited 7 years for that

[short mirage]

Okay game got delayed 3 times actually, but my point still remains

[sacred snow]

They still have 3-5 years to develope that,and still

[sacred snow]

do you guys think tlou 2 is worthy for goty?

[astral stump]

All depends on result.

Shadow of the tomb raider would be my all time favorite

[sacred snow]

my vote goes to ghost of whatever name it is cuz i forgot it

too poor to buy it,but looks great

[shy vine]

Wtf does "I guess you are my little pogchamp come here"

[sacred snow]

Idk,but it sounds like it’s made for simps

[waxen drift]

red dead online for sale

5 bucks until feb 2021

its one of the best games ive played, played it on ps4 on realease day, def top 10 like td1 and td2, both games different in their own right

[worldly rampart]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/ea-to-buy-racing-game-developer-codemasters-for-1-2-billion-outbidding-take-two/ar-BB1bUjWd?ocid=msedgntp

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-star-trek-dismay-disappointed-gif-13970402

[random skiff]

https://youtu.be/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao

[nimble cedar]

thats not a remaster

speculated a sequel of both 2 games

an asari can live for a long time and maybe traveled back and forth between 2 galaxies

[random skiff]

Answered in the other chat, but yeah Asari have an extended lifespan (assuming everything goes well) of about 1000 years, same as Krogan. In Andromeda they break that canon and make the squad member older for some weird reason though.

@quiet roost join us, you know you wanna.

[quiet roost]

oh i do

im love mass effect so very much

-- also dragon age but that will cause me to rant about how i want to smack solas and anders

[random skiff]

Freaking Anders I swear.

[quiet roost]

every time anders speaks my rage meter goes up

[random skiff]

The ending to DA2 genuinely made me want to quit the series, but out of love.

[quiet roost]

anders pissed me off so much during that game - ngl i do love da2 but anders

[random skiff]

Fenris helps make up for it.

[quiet roost]

the way he talked down to merrill as if he wasnt a whole ass abomination

i love fenris but some times i want to dropkick him in his throats when it concerns mages - i understand his dislike for tevinter mages but he spent years in kirkwall and saw that the mages there go through the exact type of thing he went through

[random skiff]

I mean, he was a literal slave to mages who had fun torturing for a good portion of his long-ass life, can you really blame him?

[quiet roost]

i dont blame him at all

i just dont like the fact that he refuses to see that the mages in kirkwall are also being treated the same way

[random skiff]

Actually the romance between him and a MageHawke is kinda sweet. It seems to reveal that he really doesn't hate all mages, just got a general distrust.

[quiet roost]

i dont bring anders or fenris anywhere with me when i have merrill

i only romanced isabela because she has thicc thighs and im weak

[random skiff]

I very much make several different chars in each of the bioware games, my first run is my "canon" one though and yeah I went for Merrill for that.

Isabella I honestly couldn't after what happened in Act 2.

[quiet roost]

yeah my canon characters are all mages

i still kept her because even though she says she feels no remorse - she does

anders had to go tho - even though in my canon i kept him because - i needed another healer

[random skiff]

Tell you one thing though, there's exactly 3 times I've wanted to strangle a companion in a bioware game. 1) Jacob. 2) Solas 3)Kaliyo from SWtOR.

[quiet roost]

kaliyo works on my entire nerves

[random skiff]

I actually don't know why my imp. agent didn't just space her.

[quiet roost]

my imp agent wants to space her

i didnt do the imp agent for a minute because i wanted to play as a chiss player

[random skiff]

good news, without spoiling things you get to do a form of that later on in the expansions.

the "space her" part, any race can play any class now.

[quiet roost]

oh yes

i think i've pretty much unlocked every class now - because i started playing like years before they started going 'heeey maybe we should make things not be shitty for f2p'

[random skiff]

hah! 6/8 stories done for me. I keep making new chars and not finishing off old ones.

I've got (no joke) 5 Agents.

[quiet roost]

i only have 1 agent - about 3 smugglers, 2 jedi knights, 2 sith warriors, 2 - or 3 sith inquisitors

1 big soldier dude for the republic and one bounty hunter

smugglers has the most hilarious one liners and they always just accidentally walk into mess

[random skiff]

I made my Republic Solider super buff lady, because Shepard.

I loooove that they gave an entire class storyline to Hale.

[quiet roost]

my big soldier dude is a sith

[random skiff]

Lightside Sith Warrior for me, that storyline is so damn funny.

"wait, why arent you going all murder crazy? Im outta here!"

[quiet roost]

a lightsided sith inquisitor - with the voice that sounds like a james bond villain - saying nice things trips me out

[random skiff]

SI had to be supervillain for me, no 2 ways about it.

[quiet roost]

i had to make them light side because making them dark sided is too easy - plus i like seeing their 'are yall shitting me?' looks when stuff dont go their way

[random skiff]

but "shock" prompt tho

[terse parcel]

is the gtx1080ti 11G worth buying used nowadays?

[random skiff]

Depends heavily on the price.

[random skiff]

Corpo life! @nimble cedar

[shy vine]

My game is almost finished downloading.

[past cedar]

what keyboard switches do you guys use? Just looking to buy a new one and imn struggling to make my mind up on what switch i want atm. more of a linear or tactile.
My current one is a titan tactile switch from roccat but my previous was a cherry mx black. And i like both just unsure which one i would want next.

[sacred snow]

Since this is off topic

Here are the letters used in the Vietnamese alphabet

a,â,ă,á,à,ạ,ấ,ầ,ậ,ẩ,ẳ,ắ,ặ,ằ,b,c,d,đ,e,ê,é,è,ẹ,ệ,ế,ề,g,h,i,k,l,m,n,o,ơ,ô,ố,ồ,ộ,ớ,ờ,ợ,p,q,s,t,u,ư,ứ,ừ,ự,ú,ù,ụ,v,x,y

“And your next line is:no one asked”

[idle spear]

@sacred snow because he's kind of a dick, ever since I saw his hairstyle, scar and glasses I was like "yep, that guy is kind of an asshole"

[sacred snow]

Naw he was cool,if you were going to apply the same logic then woods and mason should have died

[idle spear]

it's like I instinctively knew the guy would shoot you in the back or double cross you, it gave off that vibe to me

[sacred snow]

And park

[idle spear]

I actually thought he was Perseus undercover before the game released lol

[sacred snow]

If you choose the evil one,Perseus would just killed you anyways

[idle spear]

uhh no

Perseus doesn't kill you

[sacred snow]

Yes you don’t see that,but there’s a high chance it will happen

Considering how he didn’t know what cia shit happened to him

[sacred snow]

Then so why didn’t he killed you in Solovetsky?

[idle spear]

I think he does, if you don't radio Perseus when you tell Adler the wrong place, he just straight up shoots you

when you get there

idk, I don't exactly remember since I only watched the endings once and the most important thing I remember is that Adler kills you in two (in the good ending Bell may have killed Adler, we don't know since it cuts to credits before the shot is heard) and in the Evil ending you join Perseus and become one of its elite members

[sacred snow]

No you go to Duga when you betray Adler

Solovetsky when you tell the truth

[idle spear]

oh

then Adler might just have been dragging out the act

to catch Bell really off guard when he was giving that speech at the cliff

but it may have resulted in Adler getting killed for being an idiot and Bell disappearing because he really wasn't an ally to the CIA to begin with

[sacred snow]

Saw the season 1 trailer?

[idle spear]

nope

[sacred snow]

Adler did make it,and he leads an op in 1984

So either Bell is dead,or Adler spared him

[idle spear]

Adler doesn't seem the kind of guy that hesitates to me

[sacred snow]

If that’s Hudson,it would be more convincing

But,even Hudson trusted bell

[idle spear]

so he probably mortally wounded Bell and wrote him off as dead because he didn't think he would survive bleeding out in a cliff

[sacred snow]

It can go like”the cia told me to kill you but I don’t want to,go ima fake it and you would go to hiding.goodbye friend”

[idle spear]

it would be impossible for Bell to not shoot Adler out of reaction when he suddenly pulled a pistol on him

so the Adler sparing Bell theory doesn't hold much ground

imo

[sacred snow]

Well I bet Russell is the faster trigger

[river grove]

is anyone elses mobile screen share super laggy and the video falls way behind the audio?

[wispy solstice]

interesting gta v is still being updated

[random skiff]

GTAV prints money for Rock*, not a shock it's still getting updates.

[terse parcel]

can i have a little tech help from you experts. which would be better buy, a brand new rtx3060ti 8G or used (warranty left 2y tho) rtx2080ti a11G? i have ryzen 5 3600

same price

[random skiff]

Depends on what you want to run and at what resolution.

[terse parcel]

gaming preferred, 4k tv and 1080 gaming monitor

[random skiff]

Not sure about the TV as I just use a monitor myself, but my 2080 runs basically everything new at 60fps on 1080p.

[terse parcel]

considering 2080 new is double the price of a 3060

so should be more bang for buck

[random skiff]

My 2080 Super was absolutely not double the price of the new cards lol, maybe it's because the new generation is out so they crank up the old ones cost to get people to buy fresh.

How much is that 2080ti you saw?

[terse parcel]

700 in euros

a rog strix one

[random skiff]

hey got one of those too, 2080 super here tho

[terse parcel]

Asus ROG Strix RTX2080Ti A11G Gaming 11GB

[random skiff]

Yep, Asus actually own the ROG brand and strix is a variant :p

I can run CP2077 everything on ultra and have it be smooth with my card, a used 2080ti will be very good for a long while still, just get it cheaper and I'd say it's a good find.

[terse parcel]

yeah, 3060 i think cant run everything on ultra on cp2077

so 2080 is older but more powerful

[random skiff]

Makes sense, it's a really nice card. I actually Run Destiny 2 , everything maxed at 4k and keep it locked to a steady 60fps without any issues.

[terse parcel]

well basically u can get even 3070 for that money but, still is not as powerful as 2080

[random skiff]

It scales on my 1080p monitor, just so you know.

3070 vs 2080 is getting a lot closer tho, it's not significant enough of an upgrade IMO.

[terse parcel]

ok, so maybe a bit patience and brand new 3070 from a store then

[random skiff]

Depends on the price imo

[terse parcel]

asus tuf would be 650 euros

[random skiff]

It depends on you. There's really no way to fully future-proof, but either of those cards are gonna be good for a while.

[terse parcel]

yea thanks. its just there so many different cards lol, even with same specs. but i will go with 3070

[random skiff]

nice

[sacred snow]

just found out a CoD pro player name is literally Simp

FaZe Simp

what the fuck

[random skiff]

Banned from Twitch

[sacred snow]

Community:we need to ban twitch thots

Twitch:oh you mean ban the people who ask us to ban twitch thots?

Also:ITS MR MVP,SIMP!

[random skiff]

Reading more into that story, it's a response to the #metoo wave from months back, so not only is it a poorly worded response, it's a late one to a serious issue.

[sacred snow]

that time when rape victims call out rapist?

[random skiff]

Let's try and avoid using that word, it's very not okay for some people.

[sacred snow]

ok

but its that time right?

[random skiff]

It's kinda still happening, it kicked off a lot of things in motion. Twitch just took a long time to respond to it.

[sacred snow]

and how is banning the word "simp"suppose to help it?

[random skiff]

“Simp” is being banned under a portion of the revamped policy that prohibits derogatory statements about another person’s perceived sexual preferences. “And that does include negatively targeting another person with sexually focused terms,”

that's a quote from the Twitch COO and a lead-up to explain it.

[random skiff]

@long abyss Drakengard was awesome tho

@feral bay im game for more fire turrets

[feral bay]

pcf made painkiller and bulletstorm so they know about shooters, that's my hope

[random skiff]

They worked on some of the bad painkillers tho, which is my problem

[feral bay]

huh, i thought painkiller was passed to a different studio quickly

[random skiff]

technically they only made 1, then did a DLC and a port

the good one was done by uh, lemme see

Okay so yeah it was the same dev, nvm they can stay

[sacred snow]

Thanks then Christmas Riven

[umbral lake]

@random skiff u play warframe too?

All hail the red veil, all tyrants shall burn in the name of freedom.

[random skiff]

Actually yes, but I had the name first.

[umbral lake]

Red veil is the one true salvation of the origin system

[random skiff]

I'm actually a pretty major lore nerd for the Syndicates, I never saw RV as that. Their only goal is to destroy corruption, they go about it way too harshly but that's their goal.

Poor Rell.

[umbral lake]

i thought by corruption they mean corpus & grineer oppression, and whats left of orokin

damn i hate orokins

i think theyre simillar to robin hoods, or assassins creed.

but i dont really play warframe though, my friend does andni just know the lores

[random skiff]

Their definition of "corruption" is broader than that. It's interesting lore for sure.

[tender raven]

Guys, need quick help. Im trying to set my ryzen 2600 to 3.8Ghz but I am not sure which one of these voltage settings should I really tweak. Do you guys know how?

CPU VCore

or Vcore SOC ??

[shy vine]

Anybody got any Input on Ghost Recon Breakpoint ? good , bad
Good but short?
Bad but still fun?
Absolutely horrible?
Awesome? .....
Which could it be , just looking at it for $11 currently and am wondering hmmm ... Do I try it out or do I buy myself a nice lunch instead

[random skiff]

Breakpoint is great, but it's a live-service game that's been abandoned, so don't expect major content updates in the future.
Buy it for what's in it right now.

[upper helm]

guys, is BDO f2p on PSN or what???

[random skiff]

You're asking in the off-topic channel of div2 about a korean mmo on PSN being f2p. That is the nichest question I've ever seen on here.

[strong sluice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN-HLbs0JeU

that's pro cod

[high wing]

star wars time pog

[amber horizon]

when maul & kenobi met, kenobi was a padawan

[high wing]

you know they meet again and thats when maul gets angy

extra angy

in canon and in battlefront 2 theres a emote that is maul literally screaming kenobi

[amber horizon]

tl:dr GENERAL kenobi & greivous meet & kenobi says "hello there!" and grevious says "General kenobiiiii"

[high wing]

yes

i thought you were talking about maul screaming "kenobiiiiiiiiii" in battlefront 2

[amber horizon]

if i wanted to say taht

i would have said

"Kenobiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!"

[high wing]

you just add i's

lmao

the more the i's the more empathy there is

star wars time

[sacred snow]

Kenobi^90

[inner onyx]

yes

[high wing]

the bad batch were just failed succesful abortions

[sacred snow]

My autocorrect goes for Kelso Bill wtf

[inner onyx]

bruh

they were might to be like that

[sacred snow]

You’re a bold one

[high wing]

sad kenobi 360 yy'd general grievous and he went kapooya

[shrewd arch]

Star Wars is dumb.

[amber horizon]

^

[high wing]

everything comes down to personal taste

[inner onyx]

thats a hot take

[shrewd arch]

There.
I said my entire opinion on the history of a decades-long series in 4 words.

[high wing]

nah it snot

[inner onyx]

its really npt

[shrewd arch]

Okay then, so what's canon?

[high wing]

star wars is interesting to me the canon books are cool

canon is just like expansions to star wars like a dlc

[inner onyx]

anything thats is own by Disney

[high wing]

i see canon as like a dlc to star wars

[shrewd arch]

The entire premise of the series moving forward is the erasure of 99% of what has been established of the universe, which was flimsy at "best".

[high wing]

i kinda agree the sequels are literal dog water

[shrewd arch]

Star Wars is a space fantasy for children.

Always has been.

Like, how do droids work?

[inner onyx]

Same thing can be said about anime

[high wing]

the prequels are good and do a good job of story telling

[sacred snow]

loads the Ollypistol

[shrewd arch]

Why is AI something some have?

[shrewd arch]

Oh wow.

[inner onyx]

they are ai and controlled by center

[high wing]

the sequels just took everything i like about star wars and turned it to requis

[high wing]

what

[shrewd arch]

I shouldn't have said AI.
I meant "sentience".

[high wing]

they arent sentient

[shrewd arch]

Why do some have a sense of self-preservation?

You're saying C-3PO isn't sentient?

[high wing]

not at all

[shrewd arch]

You don't know what the fucking word means, then.

[high wing]

all it takes is some working with him and then he is a murder robot that doesnt have the equipment to do soi

he just has a personality

[inner onyx]

yeah

[shrewd arch]

Second verse...

[inner onyx]

you just really hate star wars

[shrewd arch]

I don't care about Star Wars.

[high wing]

sentience is just him thinking by himself which he doesnt do it seems like he does but he doesnt

[inner onyx]

they why are you fighting against it

[shrewd arch]

Hahaha, okay.
You kids have fun.

[inner onyx]

if you dont care why are you going through all of the effort

[high wing]

aight

see ya cuh having an opinion is completely fine

[sacred snow]

It’s not like every boys hate BTS

Every one can have opinion,and that’s ok

[turbid sparrow]

I like Star Wars but the films aren't great at all including its prequels, they're just okay-ish, imo. I personally follow the franchise a little because for some reason, I find Star Wars really charismatic.

[high wing]

everything past prequels are bad

made no sense to me

[sacred snow]

Disney’s are the worst

[high wing]

canon and the comics are the only thing that keeps me here

[sacred snow]

Feminize my ass

[high wing]

yes

[amber horizon]

please rephrase, thanh

[sacred snow]

Feminize my bottom

Better?

[amber horizon]

lil bit

[sacred snow]

I think at one point there’s Star Wars Zombies?

[high wing]

yeah it was a imperial test

they was fuckin round and found out

[turbid sparrow]

I'd agree but I don't find the prequels to be great films either. I enjoyed everything tho. lol I'm a sucker for lightsaber fights. 😆

[sacred snow]

With a Sith lord trying to summon the dead,but spread a disease around the universe?

[high wing]

and that is completely fine we both have opinions we are both human beings

[sacred snow]

The lightsaber fights in the prequel are the best

[turbid sparrow]

I freakin' love Fallen Order.

[high wing]

yes fallen order was good

[turbid sparrow]

Can't wait for the sequel.

It's coming.

[high wing]

i wish they would add a dlc but they said from the start there wont be one

[sacred snow]

I just realized something

Darth Vader is using a Everyday Carrier

[high wing]

@turbid sparrow try looking up some old republic game cutscenes the lightsaber cutscene fights are great

[sacred snow]

Well it’s a good thing they don’t milk the game too much

[high wing]

true

[turbid sparrow]

They did add a new game+ and the arena, tbf.

[high wing]

whether you dont like the game or you do battlefront was a pretty alright game they just took it the wrong way

[turbid sparrow]

But no major DLC, yeah.

[sacred snow]

Something we can all agree on:I have the high ground is the best line in all movies

[high wing]

funny wise yes

[turbid sparrow]

I have probably watched most of those already. 😆

[sacred snow]

Nothing’s cooler than standing 5m higher than your opponent and flexing about how high you are at

[high wing]

lmao

[random skiff]

So yeah, 2077. It's a genuinely great game, every little touch around the city feels like it was designed for people to only get after they think about it.

[amber horizon]

So, mantis blades, gorilla arms, projectile launch thing, or monowire?

[random skiff]

Gorilla Arms if you wanna do the boxing

Mantis if you wanna be able to banshee jump on enemies.
Monowire I don't think anyone has ever installed.

[amber horizon]

I know a few ppl.

[random skiff]

Not sure how far you are yet, but which tattoo?

[amber horizon]

The other one.

[random skiff]

Good, the goat is lame
I picked the goat.

Btw you can remove it by changing your hand's cyberware

[amber horizon]

they are both lame tbh

[eternal ginkgo]

Ruelle is an AMAZING artist.

You guys should definitely check her out.

[quiet sigil]

Ok so let's say there's a minigun that can fire blank rounds

Could you use that as a flamethrower if you held it close enough to something

Or is that not how things work

I'm having 5 am thoughts

[sacred snow]

Like you just keep spinning it?

[serene storm]

anyone have some good recommendations on what to watch? shows/movies/anime whatever

[random skiff]

The Mandalorian really is worth a view if you haven't seen it yet. 2 whole seasons of the best Star Wars content since the 80's.

[sacred snow]

i would recommend Forrest Grump

[random skiff]

Kinda....problematic these days.

[stark hinge]

Merry Christmas

[heavy turtle]

HBO max has the new wonder women

[wispy solstice]

u'll recognize a particular place from the game in ww84

[random skiff]

Is it the D.C.U. executives desperately trying to compete with Marvel?

[serene storm]

seen it

[serene storm]

I'm like on episode 5 of season 2 I think lol, probably finish up the rest some time this week

thanks for the recommendations

[sturdy igloo]

Look at this fabulous collection https://www.ebay.com/itm/Horus-Heresy-Blood-Angels-Army-pictures-in-description/284015886519?hash=item4220aa80b7:g:CJ0AAOSwLSBfZHNk

[sacred snow]

W o @ h

[crisp depot]

I just did the 'Ballin but at what cost?'

approximately 34$

But hey
At least I'm going hungry in style

[terse pagoda]

any of you people played the assassin's creed games and could recomend me one to get while winter sale is on?

[random skiff]

The very simple answer to that question is: do you want a more simple assassination style thing, or a more RPG focused, if the former then go for any of the ones with Ezio as the main character, or maybe Black Flag, if the latter then Odyssey or the new Valhalla.
I honestly would say that the RPG style is much more interesting, with less of the non-historical BSthat they keep trying to push in. The less of that story-line the better.

[terse pagoda]

im hesitating between origins, odyssey, and valhalla

but idk which one to get

[random skiff]

Origins is like the prototype of Odyssey, I can't speak for Valhalla but I've heard it's one of the best games that came out in 2020 on a lot of lists, so I imagine it'll be close to the 2nd in quality.

TBH having a defined character to play as is way less restricting that I thought it'd be. Kassandra is a badass and the fighting moves as half-Spartan of course include the famous kick from 300.

[terse pagoda]

so for you odyssey is better?

ill get valhalla eventually tbh

[random skiff]

Never played Valhalla, will deffo try it at some point, but out of Origins and Odyssey, I'd go for the latter.
If it's cheap enough on uPlay, get it on there with the code "WELCOME2021"

[sacred snow]

you get a discount with that code?

[random skiff]

Yep, it's on the front page if you wanna confirm it.

not sure how long it'll last though. IIRC about 20% off.

[heavy turtle]

Holy moly I bought an oculus rift 2 and it’s awesome ! The creed boxing will wear you out . Very fun . Thought I’d share with fellow gamers

[idle spindle]

Did pentagon mission to see Darpa Research labs...cant find it

[sacred snow]

somethings wrong i guess

[shy vine]

@idle spindle go back to the blast doors at the beginning, go to the white one and open it

may be the wrong door but its still a blast door

darpa is hidden till you open the door

[idle spindle]

that corridor where you go for the pentagon

is literally the other side of that little corridor area

You have the Pentagon on one side and the REesearch Labs on the other?

DId I need to complete the Pentagon first?>

[sacred snow]

Yes,that’s the point

You need to do Pentagon first

[sacred snow]

@long abyss here

proceed

[long abyss]

a guy from my goverment is black, here where I live, and he thinks racism does not exist.
his family hates him and says he is not only homophobic and some other shit, but also racist with some things

[random skiff]

Is there a reason for this conversation or is it solely to annoy people?

[long abyss]

but I dont think thats easy to find btw. Im just saying there is racist people that suffer the problem
its not the same thing, but even inside the lgbt community theres people with bias against people inside the community

If it annoys anyone I dont care

if its against the rules I stop

But I dont want to go that far, I need to study

I believe its hard to find what I said, but it does exist 😦

[sacred snow]

i think thats more about opinion

like your family or country has weird beliefs,like when people burnt women just because they know the coin trick or astronomy

[random skiff]

Fun fact: only something like 3 people were ever burnt cause of Witchcraft.

[sacred snow]

thats what its WRITTEN

[random skiff]

Historical records from the time.

It was a systematic investigation, they kept detailed records of prisoners.

[sacred snow]

or how women are believed to be inferior to men?

[random skiff]

My point is: don't believe something is true just because you remember hearing it once ages back.
That is an entirely different thing to burning people alive, jeez.

[long abyss]

Check this video

at the episode, both were driving an expensive car, they were stopped by the police and sent to jail, because they were driving too slow and it was suspicious
will smith is poor, so he saw racism way more than his cousin, that is a rich dude that has everything he needs

so his cousin said the officers were just doing their job, and that where the video starts:
https://youtu.be/qQdn2FUoD0U

[random skiff]

You talking about Fresh Prince? You realise that was meant to be a bit of a poke at the racism in America?

[long abyss]

Ohh, most women I know have sexists ideas inside their head, specially the older ones. thats super common, at least where I live

what do you mean?

[sacred snow]

fair point

[random skiff]

I regret turning this channel off mute.

[long abyss]

I dont understand why you are so annoyed about this

[sacred snow]

oh the type that always rant about gender equality while trying to break the line because"im a woman"?

[long abyss]

Thats a tiny issue compared to actual sexism
ok, some women might use that to their advantage, but them suffering all over the world is a much bigger problem

[random skiff]

It's always great to log onto a game server and see discussions about gender politics from 2 men.

[long abyss]

that happens with almost anything
many people us bullying as excuse for things too, but it does not mean it is not a real problem

I need to be a woman to talk about it?

[sacred snow]

there are about 7 or 8 channels talking about div

right here

this channel is literally labeled #off-topic-discussions

[long abyss]

I like to discuss this sometimes so I can learn something new or think about the things I know
these subjects are super important and are big issues for many, many people

[random skiff]

You are 100% right, and as such I've already muted it. Now stop tagging me.

[long abyss]

its a really complex subject
hard to talk about it

[midnight sequoia]

bored and looked at my home region on wiki, on the first photo and I've already spotted my apartment...

[sacred snow]

The govs must be really putting an eye on you aye?

[shrewd arch]

Quick question; has anyone here played Red Dead Online?

[random skiff]

I got it for $5 on Steam, installed it, haven't opened it yet.

[serene storm]

I'm level 300+ why?

[random skiff]

Any good? Kinda redundant asking a lvl 300, but still.

[serene storm]

it's fine, but they release content very slowly... so you run out of things to do tbh

it's not really balanced tho... pvp is a joke in that game lol

but I don't pvp much, so it's not an issue

and, oh yea, don't forget the insane amount of hackers

[random skiff]

So is it possible to play non-pvp?

[serene storm]

well kinda? you can turn on defensive mode, but they can still fox with you

[random skiff]

I'll likely not put much time into it, but $5 for a cowboy create-a-character is decent.

cheers for the info.

[serene storm]

cheers, rockstar got greedy and really nerfed the gold gain from doing dailies, but it's still a decent way to earn gold. Make sure you do at least 1 daily a day and build up the streak to earn more gold.

[random skiff]

As long as I can make a character that doesn't look like a meth-head, I'll be happy.

[serene storm]

[quiet roost]

anyone here have cyberpunk 2077 on an Xbox one s? Because I have questions

mainly because I want to know does the game atleast runs better now with the hot fixes they've done for consoles

[burnt jetty]

lol I'm a burden

[worldly rampart]

@quiet roost i have CP-2077
running a Ryzen 9 5900X and a RTX-3070 FE though

would get Div-2 on PC if i could fucking move my PS4 progress over

[shrewd hearth]

@worldly rampart they said on xbox one s ._.

[glossy flame]

I probably won't b around when the moment arrive (spending time with family during that time), and though it's a bit early, would just like to say;

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!
2020 is a year of appreciation and the fact that we are alive today shows that you're the best ever! (Don't let anyone tell you otherwise)

I pray for your health, safety and most importantly, happiness. May you all be blessed as we enter a new year with new resolution, goal and hopefully, new mindset that will better ourselves and the world :). United we stand, divided we fall!

[sacred snow]

the best Christmas present that everyone gets this year is the fact that 2020 is over

so,Merry Christmas too @glossy flame

[glossy flame]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year @sacred snow !!!

[covert plaza]

happy new years

[whole igloo]

https://youtu.be/5x95FJ5NBMo

For the people in past

[magic tree]

Happy New Year to all fellas ✌️

[supple atlas]

Happy New Years Everyone

[sacred snow]

happy new year

[random skiff]

@upper dew basically with WF you start lost, then you find it over time.

its the ultimate "marathon not sprint" game.

[upper dew]

So like the campaign is finding out who you are or what ?

Sounds fun might sink a couple hours in and see if ill get addicted

[random skiff]

In a way yeah, but WF didn't actually have story missions until like, 2016, 2 years after it came out.

It's highly recommended to not look up spoilers for it, its story is so massively filled with spoilers that its worth the effort of finding it for yourself.

[native sail]

if you wanna continue the story you gotta grind

[upper dew]

Grindddddddd 😳 my fav style of game

[native sail]

lol

[random skiff]

If anyone spoils the story of WF for a new player, we get the hurty stick.

[native sail]

im not proud of me pouring 600+ hours into the game

i was only MR13 lmao

[random skiff]

I refuse to admit how many hours I have in that game. I know the lore better than my own family tree by this point.

[native sail]

lmao

[upper dew]

Skyrim had me like that 😂😂😂

[random skiff]

TES was good for that stuff, but like, WF is just so weird that all the stuff I know means so little to other games by this point.

I mean the Zariman alone has like 10 hours of explanation behind it.

[upper dew]

Lmao

[random skiff]

thats not a spoiler, was in the game before 2nd Dream.

[native sail]

o

[random skiff]

IIRC was in the Rhino codex entry.

also where we found out whats in the 'suits.

[upper dew]

😳

[random skiff]

that entire conversation then? thats just about a single ship.

[upper dew]

Jeez

[sacred snow]

warframe?

its free right?

[native sail]

yes

[tight mulch]

WF for me is that game that if I don't have anything to do i came back to it xD I had 2 years brake, some months, and now I stopped playing after Deimos update i think

[native sail]

I wanna upgrade my graphics card but my PC is a prebuilt one lol

[upper dew]

😳

[shrewd hearth]

people complain about the grind in division 2
Me: looks at warframe

[tight mulch]

True

The division 2 hits the spot for me not to much grind but good amount of farm

[shrewd hearth]

for warframe you need to get the frame, level said frame, craft something to reset the frame level and level it again and do that multiple times

pretty much the same for the weapons

you take ~3 days iirc for a frame, 1 hr + to level it to max once, 24hrs to get make the thing to reset it and then 1hr+ for releveling. thats not including getting the materials

[worldly rampart]

warframes grind is a little tedious expecally when you first start

but ive been playing warframe on-off sence 2012

division-2's early game grind is also iffy for me,and thats why i would like to move my PS4 progress over to PC so i dont have to go through it again

[shrewd hearth]

I found the end gamr grind for wf much worse than the early game

Might have just been me tho

[shrewd hearth]

on steam payday 2 is 74p (1.01 dollar)

[oblique raptor]

Have you played Payday 2? Was wondering if the base game has enough content to keep me entertained for awhile or if I should just go for the legacy edition.

[shrewd hearth]

the most expensive pack rn is ~9 pounds (~12 dollars iirc)

i havent played it yet but i want to

@oblique raptor

for total paid content there are 50 items and the most expensive one contains 36 so idk if you get it all but you get a large amount of it

[oblique raptor]

Well I would buy it but for some reason anything I try purchasing on Steam right now gets stuck in a "Pending" state. 🤔

[shrewd hearth]

its waiting on payment from the bank/card

[worldly rampart]

yea

dumb i know my bank dose that to

[tight mulch]

Payday 2 is fun also but updates on ps4 is like waiting for cyberpunk

[supple edge]

do they even update payday 2 anymore ?

used to play it on steam

[amber horizon]

Occasionally.

[supple edge]

i think ive heard some news about pay day 3 ?

[random skiff]

Considering how RAID: WW2 went, I'd maybe think about holding off on any new games by those devs.

[supple edge]

they went backrupt and got rebooted, dunno if new devs or so

[random skiff]

It's actually not the PD2 devs, but it's a subsidiary their publishers bought way back called "lion game lion", they made the Train Heist DLC.

in any case, anyone connected to Overkill is a company I want nothing to do with. They are not exactly trustworthy.

[eternal ginkgo]

How's Doom Eternal? I've been reading reviews but it sounds like a whole lotta salty people and on the other end, a lot of dick riding fanboys.

[oblique raptor]

If you like Doom, you'll enjoy Doom Eternal

It's just more of the same.

[eternal ginkgo]

Interesting. I'll check it out.

[random skiff]

It's like Doom 2016 but with a bit too much lore.

[shy vine]

The lore is pretty optional, it becomes overwhelming when you actually go looking, Also I suggest not playing eternal if you don't like difficult games @eternal ginkgo

It makes you get good if you don't get frustrated first

[random skiff]

I would agree, except that the game flat-out just stops at points to exposition dump lore on you.
The last thing I wanted was to hear the Doom Marine speak.

[shy vine]

Its miniscule at best

[random skiff]

You may not have finished it, the lore is....Eternal.

[shy vine]

Also that was needed to explain who pulled him from hell

[random skiff]

finding out where Demons came from, how Argent energy is made, the politics of every faction, I just wanna shoot demons damnit.

You know what we thought before the game explained to us? That he punched his way out of hell while metal music played.

[shy vine]

It was more of this is a new character

Like 3

We didn't know it was doomguy till eternal

[random skiff]

We kinda did tho. Doom 2016 somewhat explained that it was the same character, then they back-traced the lore until it made sense for all the plot we've got now.

[eternal ginkgo]

I play Division wym?

[shy vine]

If thats the case GET THE DOOM COLLECTION

👍

[random skiff]

just get Gamepass to try it out, it's a good deal anyway.

[devout kernel]

Everybody I'm new just wanted to see what everybody is like in this Discord

[random skiff]

Mostly helpful, few crazies. Just use the right channels for the right stuff and you're good.
Welcome, Agent!

[eternal ginkgo]

Welcome to the one and only...

Wait what game is this?

Oh yeah Division totally.

[devout kernel]

@eternal ginkgo 😋

[random skiff]

I've gotta say, Vermintide 2 really is showing its staying power lately. I thought that it was all surface after putting real time into the first one, but there's genuine reasons to come back week-to-week.

[eternal ginkgo]

I couldn't get in to it.

[amber horizon]

And thats fair. Def doesnt seem like its a game for everyone

[eternal ginkgo]

Yeah, I mean it isn't terrible but it just isn't for me lol.

[random skiff]

It's at the same time super niche but also very broad.

[devout kernel]

@amber horizon how long have you been playing division

[amber horizon]

I've played TD2 since about a week after its launch, and Div1 about a month after its launch. On and off, but i've always come back to the series.

[devout kernel]

what other games do you main?

[amber horizon]

I've been playing Yakuza 0 recently, along with Apex Legends, Escape from Tarkov, and Warhammer Vermintide 2 with my friends.

I'm in the middle of a lot of singleplayer games, now that i think about it.

[devout kernel]

Ever play Destiny

[worldly rampart]

@amber horizon ive been playing EFT,MW-19,Dirt Rally,Dirt-4,CP-2077,Control,AC-Odyssey,Automation,and Beam-NG

👀 would play division-2 if i could move my progress on PS4 over to PC but no thats not a thing yet

[amber horizon]

I started Destiny 1 about 4 weeks into The Dark Below, and i've been following Destiny & Destiny 2 since.

[devout kernel]

Yeah I play Destiny 2 like my main thing I just switched over to PC from console about 2 weeks ago

[amber horizon]

Havent really found much to do in Destiny 2 recently, so i've just been playing other games.

[devout kernel]

Yeah I played the division one but I just got into the division 2. So I'm new to PC and new division 2.

[sacred snow]

How much is Tarkov,and is it good?

Im thinking about swapping that with pubg

[shy vine]

i believe its still on sale and its an acquired taste

$34

if you like military sims + you are okay with losing your loadout you started a mission with , its a great game

[sacred snow]

34 bucks?

[shy vine]

ya

its 25% off of $44

[sacred snow]

Nah I’ll stick with pubg

It’s like what?5 months worth of breakfast?

[shy vine]

👀 EU?

[sacred snow]

Asia lol

[shy vine]

i only used the pricing for na

[sacred snow]

Vnd

Yeah I know

[oblique raptor]

Anybody else watch Alice in Borderland on Netflix? Just finished the second episode and I'm completely hooked.

[random skiff]

Never heard of it, what's it about?

[oblique raptor]

Three friends get transported to an alternate version of Tokyo somehow and are forced to compete in a "game" of sorts with life and death stakes.

I think it's an adaptation of a manga (not a big anime guy) but it's pretty good so far.

[random skiff]

Not really into anime either, but I do like takes on Alice in Wonderland so I might give it a go, cheers.

[astral stump]

Any Batman Arkham series fan here?

[shy vine]

what do you want to know?

[astral stump]

About origins cause that only one I haven’t played but I played all other games though

Cause Ik origins took place before asylum but never knew the story behind it

[shy vine]

any one know can you get nemesis without doing the quest ?

[alpine trout]

Not possible

[serene storm]

can't have a homie drop it for you? or you can't get a second one huh?

[tacit geode]

you can do both of those

[worldly rampart]

anyone knows when massive + ubisoft will get cross platform progression to work

👀 🤷‍♂️

[random skiff]

The current news is that it'll be available on future games, but as of right now: Stadia + PC are the only ones with crossplatform.
Div2 is likely to never go beyond that.

[worldly rampart]

i swere if i restart 500 + hours of grind on PC and they add cross-platform progression later on

[random skiff]

It's possible, but I would put money on it not happening.

[shrewd hearth]

based on an anime. 3 friends are transported to a version of japan where 'everyone' has disappeared with a select few there competing for visas in death games. the game difficulty system us based on a deck of cards. higher the number the more difficult and the suit determines game type. the first season covers the number cards and the face cards will be in season 2 which will come out idk when.

spoilers:

||there is a place called the beach where alot of the players live working together to collect all the cards. they believe that if you collect them all one player returns to the real world. the beach is also the place of the final numerical card (10 of hearts) and at the end of the game the beach is burnt down so all remaining players have to leave. In the games there are people called dealers who set up the games. their visa's are based upon how many players die during the games they set up. the dealers need to make sure none of the players collect all numerical cards otherwise all of the dealers die. they also cant tell the actual players that they're dealers otherwise they will be killed. if you dont; keep your visa's time up and it runs out, you try to leave a game or a dealer tells people they are a dealer then they are killed by lasers from the sky. the also believe that the entire country is surrounded by the lasers.||

more spoilers:

||at the end when the main character and their new friend find the dealers base they find them all dead (bc the dealers lost) and someone (an executive member of the beach(one of the leaders)) announces that there will be 12 more games to earn the face cards which will lead onto season two.||

imo its worth watching

[tight mulch]

Sound like death parade but with extra steps

[random skiff]

I will avoid reading that for now, as I like to go into a show blind, but I'll add it to my list.
Granted that list still includes Queen's Gambit, so it's gonna be a while before I get to anything new.

[shy vine]

fuck that shit DZ is enough

wait its a other game

[shrewd hearth]

i get the joke but this is about a netfix series not division 2

[shy vine]

oh netflex and its anime my life

[shrewd hearth]

its based on an anime

[shy vine]

soo its a movie?

[shrewd hearth]

series

[native sail]

i have to build a stadium out of lego :pain:

[amber horizon]

Dont step on any!

[native sail]

cant step on them because i have to use a digital verson

[amber horizon]

dont step on your screen then

[native sail]

kk

[amber horizon]

why do you gotta make a lego stadium?

[native sail]

school work

[amber horizon]

Thats seems like too much work...

[native sail]

due in a week too lol

[amber horizon]

Best get working on it quick, good luck.

[native sail]

ty

found a manual for the one i wanna copy lmao

[sacred snow]

why would your school homework involves making a virtual lego build?

[random skiff]

Design class?

[oblique raptor]

Can anyone recommend a good multiplayer game (MMORPG or otherwise) that I can sink a bunch of time in to, that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Some P2W is fine.

[random skiff]

Warframe is probably the ultimate time-sink.

You can play 100% free without ever spending a single dollar, as you can even trade for the premium currency in-game with other players.

[oblique raptor]

Did my time with Warframe. Never again.

I wish there was something like Black Desert Online that didn't require a 10-hour a day commitment to progress.

[random skiff]

You really are into P2W's lol. Uh Neverwinter just got an expansion, might be worth a look.

[sacred snow]

anyone here can give a review on Legion(the game not the laptop)?i just saw the trailers and TD2 looks better despite coming out earlier

[native sail]

no clue

its IT class but idk why we're focusing on lego

thank god i finished it tho

[sacred snow]

'grats mate

[idle spindle]

Could someone real quick just give a general quick rundown, in order, if I am showing someone on PC, how to play Division 2, what should be the first thing I show him, the second, third, etc. I know a lot of it he will learn on his own, but just in general what would be a good way to just explain and/or show him the basics

[willow pecan]

First, probably wouldn't consider this ''''''off-topic'''''' but eh, whatever.
Anyway, it'd probably just be a sort of overview of the setting? Just kinda walk through DC with them, let them get used to navigating the map and menus. From there, probably show them some of the different types of weapons and how they feel (ARs, SMGs, Rifles, Snipers, etc.). Then go into skills. Or, just kinda say fuck it, have them get WONY, and just throw them to the proverbial wolves like I was.

[amber horizon]

yeet

[willow pecan]

I mean, shit, that's what Aspect did with me and I turned out more or less fine

I got Eagle Bearer before they did so....

[amber horizon]

i got ravenous and regulus before you did, sit down.

[willow pecan]

1st Run EB with you as a pseudo-guide

Cope.

But, I digress

Honestly, just guide them through the general gameplay loop, CPs, running missions, etc.

let them get a feel for the gameplay and gun-feel

[idle spindle]

@amber horizon How do you get regulus

@willow pecan Thanks. Would you want to play sometime

[amber horizon]

Regulus is its own quest, related to the second raid, Operation Iron Horse.

[idle spindle]

Anybody want to play some Manhunt Missions sometime?

[amber horizon]

Please use #lfg-pc for LFG messages.

[willow pecan]

Eh honestly hard maybe. Works kinda dicky right now with my hours and shit, plus I got a campaign to schedule and run so I don't got that much spare time atm. But still a solid maybe boyo

[idle spindle]

Ok....whats your Uplay and I'll add you

sorry @amber horizon just figure some of the best people I wil find IS NOT in the LFG. If someone seems helpful, I tend to ask them. Sorry about that

[amber horizon]

Use DMs for that, then.

[willow pecan]

Imma keep it real witchu chief, I do not know my Uplay off the dome and I am also uhhhhhhhhh a bit 'toasty' atm if you catch my drift ;3€ and not at my computer but as soon as I am cognizant enough I will get right on that

[sacred snow]

just like Lenowo said,just yeet them into DUA heroic and make him shit his pants for the next 2 hours

[idle spindle]

ActuallyAspect#7825 your right

[shrewd hearth]

runescape?

[oblique raptor]

😐

I remember playing that at the computer lab in elementary school 🤣 I cant believe RS is still around.

[shrewd hearth]

Still a time sink

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[prime bison]

Discord to be shutdown by 2022

After receiving multiple lawsuits and complaints over issues about child safety on the platform, Discord CEO Jason Citron announced his resignation.

Oh Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Lmao

[sacred snow]

noooooooooooo

where would we go now?

[shrewd hearth]

source?

[crystal locust]

@shrewd hearth lmao I saw that on a reddit post

It was a rickroll

Discord is very well aluve

[shrewd hearth]

I was hoping they had the link. I knew it was fake but still wanted to see if they would use the same link

[crystal locust]

Dear Ubi devs and ubi community ppl

Make CtOS canon u cowards, the logos look near-identical

I have photo evidence

It's a good opportunity

[sacred snow]

canon to Div? #division-universe

[random skiff]

It can't be canon for 1 simple reason: Green Poison happened before Watchdogs 1 was set.

[solemn sparrow]

Love it when I only get 2 hours of sleep and my brain is just like "Yep, time to wake up now, no more sleep, you're ready for the day." Yet I'm tired as fuck

[sacred snow]

Wake the fuck up,samurai

We have a day to suffer from life

[solemn sparrow]

It be like that

[amber horizon]

I KEEP FORGETTING I'M LOADING INTO SCAV RAIDS WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF

[shy vine]

git rekt

[amber horizon]

60% of the time, yes

[sacred snow]

F

It’s like 12 degrees here in Vietnam and I’m freezing

How the fuck can you guys have snowball fights in 1-2 degrees?(celcius)

[simple orbit]

cuz its awesome

[native sail]

i wanna download destiny 2 but this game makes me not want to

e

[jovial pawn]

This game definitely takes more attention to detail imo, there are “builds” in destiny 2 but not as important as div 2

Most of the grind is for guns, quests or the titles and feats

[unreal matrix]

what is the difference between the two different division 2 discord servers?

[shy vine]

reddit vs official

this one is official

[unreal matrix]

ok

[amber horizon]

we are cooler, thats the difference

(they are cool too, but i'm here soooo)

[shy vine]

😏 thats a negative

kidding btw

[amber horizon]

Love you too.

[sacred snow]

Idk,I mean Azur’s there too

Buttt yeah,you’re cooler

[unreal matrix]

bruh

[amber horizon]

bruh

[random skiff]

bruh

[unreal matrix]

bruh

[amber horizon]

glad we've all come to a conclusion.

[unreal matrix]

yes

ppl should be more liek us no arguing

and every solution results in a "bruh"

[amber horizon]

@proud niche Selling accounts is not allowed.

[sacred snow]

bruh

[amber horizon]

bruh

[upbeat socket]

Is ghost recon breakpoint is like division 2 that has "weapon rarity" unlike the first game Ghost recon wildlands

[tight mulch]

I don't think so but i only played demo or free weekend

[random skiff]

You can turn that feature off in Breakpoint.

[upbeat socket]

Wym?

[random skiff]

There's more than 1 mode in Breakpoint, you can turn off various aspects of the game to make it less live-service.

[upbeat socket]

Ohhh

[mighty jay]

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1349339939012567041?s=20
Just saw and didn't know where to post it

[sacred snow]

Fuck man,that’s the most evil thing I’ve ever heard

[lime frigate]

what's peeps thoughts on the ubisoft star wars game?

snowdrop engine, div 2 team working on it

[midnight falcon]

I'm excited

One thing is certain: it's gonna look gorgeous

[random skiff]

I'm holding out the pointless hope that they raided the studio who was working on 1313 and decided to steal it for themselves.

[zenith coral]

No more content for div 2 because everyone from massive works on the new SW game 🙈 😂

[shy vine]

not how things work

[unreal matrix]

yes we have solved all world problems inside this chat

wait do you guys remember the demo for div1 and the watch ui ,dang i thought that was so cool looking and i wish there was an option in the settings to turn that on.

[shy vine]

technically exists w/ d2 but in 2d

the map looks fairly similar to how the watch map from d1 looks

but we have nothing like that beyond that

[unreal matrix]

yeah no when they realesead the video showing the game off the map looked like it could not be moved. but ill link th evideo to the ui I mean becuase i dont really understand how the one in div2 look kinda like it
https://www.hudsandguis.com/home/2013/06/26/tom-clancys-the-division-interface-design

[sacred snow]

How to solve world hunger with Aspect

[amber horizon]

bruh

[sacred snow]

Bruh^3.14

[random skiff]

Okay like, anyone have experience with the ubi support? This is Div2 related.
I've been trying to log a ticket since last night and it's just being tetchy.

[gloomy oxide]

had no problems before when I log in tickets.

[random skiff]

It's officially been over 12 hours, still not working.

live-chat just isn't working at all, and the submit-ticket is giving me back "There was an error processing your request. Please try again later."

[gloomy oxide]

hmm. any other way? I mean would it be possible to drop an email to support?

[random skiff]

as far as I know, this is the way you do that. I haven't sent in a ticket in years, but last time I did they were actually account-savers so I'm remaining optimistic that it'll work

[gloomy oxide]

hopefully it works soonest. last time I sent a ticket was around 2 years ago, when I lost my phone and I need to remove 2FA so I can set it up again.

[random skiff]

My account was stolen by a Russian, I know they were Russian as they changed the default language to Russia and deleted all my div1 characters.

[gloomy oxide]

damn. that's hard. hope you get to file a ticket soon

[oblique raptor]

Try a different browser or in incognito 🤷‍♂️

[random skiff]

Tried incognito already, guess I'll install a 2nd browser and give it a go.
Why can nothing ever be simple.

[boreal fog]

Massive is developing new Star Wars open world game using Snowdrop engine. Any thoughts? 😜

[brisk cypress]

Excited

[timber coral]

Curious to see

a) what it might mean for the Division franchise
b) what the game will actually look like
c) if it will be interesting enough to a non Star Wars fan like myself

[zenith coral]

No changes because theres no relevant content updates since the beginning of the seasons.

[amber horizon]

She is talking about the massive starwars game...

[zenith coral]

[amber horizon]

Thats only tangentially related to the first point, but aight

[random skiff]

Maybe it's just me, but like, why is Lore always not counted as "relevant content"? I mean, Season 3 alone, we found out who founded BT, that the Founder's brother is a Rogue SHD Agent, it even got confirmed that some Agents were chosen for their money connections.
Heavy world-building stuff.

[shy vine]

people put gameplay on a higher priority, we see it everyday because we have to help them in almost every aspect of the game + lore because they skipped to the "end game"

[random skiff]

It sucks, MSV do a fantastic job of world building, I honestly think their strongest point is environmental design. For me it comes close to some of the best RPG's out there.

[shy vine]

it absolutely does, it makes me think why are they so disgusted by enjoying the game? why do they need to rush? like wtf

[random skiff]

People enjoy games diferently for sure, but never giving it a chance in the first place just means you're likely to burn out faster.

[zenith coral]

Dont get me wron, i love the Division lore. I read some Books and Comics. But beside the lore, seasons are extremely repetitive and boring. Theres only 5 new bosses in existing zones. And the cherry on top are the new skill variants only obtainable through the seasons. Im happy for everyone who likes it. But i cant enjoy such "content" for longer.

[serene storm]

PSA: Star Wars Battlefront II is free on Epic this week, grab a 40 dollar game for free!

[sacred snow]

+DLCs and skins for free

[wispy hedge]

what dlc and skins

[sacred snow]

Everything before 2020 and some free skins since it’s “Celebration Edition”

[wispy hedge]

😎

[shy vine]

hitman discord is imploding because pc players finally found the knife in their back from EGS

[amber horizon]

Oh?

[shy vine]

they have to buy things again to get the full experience (previously it wasn't like that)

to get every game under the same roof*

like Hitman 2 was

the cause of it was the EGS exclusive deal, it made things complicated with how the recent trilogy is set up

[sturdy igloo]

So, Massive is currently working on a Star wars game?

[random skiff]

Yep! And until they say otherwise, they're also working on Div as well.

[gloomy oxide]

ah, yes. some got angry because of that. I'm in that discord too haha

@random skiff hey, how's your issue with the ticketing?

[random skiff]

I eventually got in, they sent me a whole bunch of stuff to try and solve it and in the process of that now. Cheers for asking.

[gloomy oxide]

that is nice to hear! hope they fix your issue soonest~

[random skiff]

Apparently the whole "auto swapping to Group Only when starting to matchmake" thing is an intended feature with no way to change it.

[sacred snow]

Welp,general seems to be discussing gameplay sooooo

Why isn’t there the watch in Collector’s Edition?

It’ll make a fine prop

I mean,we got caps,shirts,even coffee mugs but no watch,which is the most iconic thing of the franchise?

[amber horizon]

iirc there was a watch in Div1's collectors edition

[sacred snow]

Well yeah,but why isn’t there one in 2

[amber horizon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i'd make the div1 collector's watches less valuable, wouldnt it?

[sacred snow]

Tbh,that watch isn’t that cool

It only has a square of actual screens rather than the full face

I mean,i wouldn’t mind paying an extra 20-30 bucks for it to look cooler

“But thanh,not everybody will pay that”

Well have it sold separate

[random skiff]

Do you need a minute?

[amber horizon]

I bought a smartwatch because i wanted a SHD watch, but those are a lil more expensive

[random skiff]

I put a big cardboard circle around my monitor and downloaded a background.

get on my level, Thanh.

[sacred snow]

Not everyone is as versatile with stuff as you Rivs

[sacred snow]

Just avoid Apple Watch

Rest is cool enough

[sacred snow]

Wait,so you put cardboard around your watch and download a orange theme?

Or the cardboard is just for the floating effects?

[random skiff]

The Vodka helps with the floating effects.

[sacred snow]

In America,you drink vodka.
In Russia,vodka drinks you.
In Aus,you drink...the vodka upside down?

[shy vine]

whelp there goes my enjoyment watching the hitman cord implode because of egs, it's starting to flood "Don't ask questions, just consume"

[native sail]

i wanna download either destiny 2 or watch dogs 2 but im gonna get my ass beat lol

[polar dawn]

I don't recommend destiny 2@native sail

[native sail]

oh

[amber horizon]

Its an alright game, but the state its in is a little... iffy.

[polar dawn]

I have like 4k hours in that
About 1.7k-2k are in pvp there

Bungie just doesn't seem to care for player time investment and there's a lack of content rn

Maybe as a new player it's worth it

[random skiff]

Destiny 2 is amazing, but is in no way similar to Div2. Totally different feel.

[solemn sparrow]

Destiny 1 sure didn't last long lmao. I bought it for the 360 then they made the 2nd one and I never got it

[shy vine]

@tacit geode

[tacit geode]

@scenic needle no advertising of any kind is allowed here, please read the rules

[shrewd hearth]

star wars battlefront 2 is free on epic games store until the 21st. claim now. keep forever

[shrewd hearth]

sometimes there are weapons that are still meta that new people dont have access to which isnt the best thing in the world imo

cough cough
Felwinters Lie
cough cough

[sacred snow]

I have a confession

I do actually have a mic,it’s just that I hate turning it on

Sorry for anyone who did that DH raid with me

[dense parcel]

https://youtu.be/6y4i2b9gL0Q

the gas mask are actually functional

in the event for breakpoint

[oblique raptor]

Anybody play Tarkov?

[amber horizon]

✋

[oblique raptor]

Is it rough as a solo player? I hear horror stories of people camping extractions and stuff.

[amber horizon]

Its rough but its not terrible

if you are up for the realism, atleast

like dont get me wrong

you'll die. alot.

[oblique raptor]

You lose your weapon/gear when ya die right?

[amber horizon]

Everything except your armband, your melee weapon, and the stuff in your secure container.

[timber coral]

As much as I would love to play that game, the fact that you are losing most of your stuff is why I don't wanna play. 😂

[oblique raptor]

My thoughts exactly. I'm all for risk/reward and grinding, but 🤷‍♂️

[amber horizon]

i mean, theres always scav raids.

Scav raids are raids not using your PMC (main) character, where anything obtained while using your scavs can be put into your stash (if you survive)

[timber coral]

But if you survive everything you've collected on that run is gone, right?

[amber horizon]

On a scav run? If you die that scav run's stuff is gone, if you get out you can transfer all the stuff that you got to your pile of goodies

[timber coral]

Yea... but there's still a risk of losing what you found during the run and I'm a potato noob, I would lose all my new stuff all the time. 😂

[amber horizon]

only way to get better is to play!

[sacred snow]

What?youre telling me you’ve never played Minecraft in your entire life?

[random skiff]

People on this server are really defensive of rogue-lites.

[timber coral]

Oh I did. And I died... a lot. 😂 But it's different in Minecraft, I don't mind losing my stuff because I know it won't take long to get it back. But losing my stuff in games like Tarkov or in Division DZ... It's rng based and that's when I don't like losing things. 🤔

[sacred snow]

I can’t really see the difference,I mean losing your stuff to AI and weird mistakes vs losing to players

[timber coral]

it's about what I can lose. I don't care about materials I collected in minecraft or things like swords and such. I can collect / craft it again. But like great gear, god roll weapons... I don't wanna lose that.

[amber horizon]

you can always get another AK

[sacred snow]

Wait,you get good stuff in dz?

Lol I got trash everywhere

clears a heroic landmark

[timber coral]

I don't know, I never go in there. 🤪 😂

[sacred snow]

drops a 7,5% weapon dmg srs

[sacred snow]

Same

I should try rounding up people and start a Minecraft server at some point

[crisp depot]

Yeah as I was saying the plot literally involved killing any human being if they're related to or in the area of a rival cartel

Think Santa Blanca but the cartel had a love affair with the KGB and the Yakuza

And as armed as the True sons.

Literal narco terrorists and the new word combination I created.

Narco militarum.

When a cartel gets as powerful as a military force. @umbral lake

[umbral lake]

You know I am a Korean-American

and I also RP in twitter targetting Korean Audiences

And naturally my tone there is way more serious than what I do here

[crisp depot]

I take RPing pretty seriously. I treat all interactions as if they're happening right in front of me in person

Nerdy? Yes. Fun? yes

[umbral lake]

It is simillar to ur mercenary company, i basically made a SCP-Foundationesque secret society called Banner Project

And they are basically anarchist robin hoods

[crisp depot]

I have a plot surrounding stuff like that.

[umbral lake]

targetting all tyrannical nations

[crisp depot]

But instead of made up things

They hunt cryptids

[umbral lake]

and slavery/humam trafficking organizations

but they are also fanatics for freedom, and I admit most of the basis of 'freedom is only divine truth' stuff stems from there

[crisp depot]

Oh right yeah they did heavy human, drug and weapons trafficking

[umbral lake]

some of my RP-partners happens to be division agents as well

so we are kinda in a suspicious-ally relationship

[crisp depot]

Again they're meant to make the yakuza and Russian mafia look like the bloodz crips

[umbral lake]

what happens with my guys and SHD usually is that my guys provide food and supplies to settlements and help patrol dark zones

[crisp depot]

I've been wanting to do a division rp but the site I started on... The audience no longer does military like plots...

[umbral lake]

but the agents would also go "wtf guys" when they see True Sons and Black Tusk Remnants literally impaled

[crisp depot]

Wtf

[umbral lake]

so its kinda like a mix between suspicion and alliance

the only reason they cooperate is because we give them food without anything tempered and we never touch civilians

"They are vicious as the Rikers, fanatical as the outcasts, and well equipped and trained like the Black Tusks. But the real reason why I don't trust these anarchist secret society whackjobs is because they are always so disturbingly buddying up to us."

[crisp depot]

I'd ask to join up on that but I sadly have a job that has actually halted my rps

[umbral lake]

yeah, its done in korean btw

[crisp depot]

F

Yeah don't come to the American audience. We aren't interested or can offer anything besides Rwby plots and magical high school plots

Is what I've seen