td2-general-chat

[vague bear]

Today… in the summit on legendary I got x2 big horns and saint Elmo’s in 4 runs of the boss fight

[blazing citrus]

"i got". still rng

[lunar hare]

BH is exclusive to Legendary bosses so...

[vague bear]

But none of these know about the legendary boss glitch thing so they won’t tell you lol

[distant otter]

wtf i can't get 1

[mellow girder]

does anyone need a hazard emperors?

[distant otter]

could u run the summit with me maybe?

[vague bear]

No it’s not lol

[lunar hare]

bro...

[vague bear]

See what I mean?!

[blazing citrus]

you can only share loot with those that were in your group when you obtained it

[mellow girder]

im in the dz silly goose

[kind veldt]

big horn is exclusive to legendary bosses

[mellow girder]

they can come kill me for it

[distant otter]

what's a hazard emperors would it be useful to me😂

[vague bear]

It’s not I got my first bh in the summit on challenging 😂

[blazing citrus]

ah okok 🙏 i forgor it was dz drop

[lunar hare]

sure buddy, sure

[kind veldt]

i remember when i saw someone getting banned in the forums for saying that

[vague bear]

This is what I mean yall have played this game way longer than me? yall claim to know everything about the game but still give people wrong information 😭

[distant otter]

@vague bear can u dm me a min?

[blazing citrus]

div 2 gear spreadsheet

bighorn:

• legendary bosses (5%)
• Extremely Low chance from DZ

[kind veldt]

you are giving people the wrong information, big horn doesnt drop from anything but legendary and extrmely small chance in DZ

[vague bear]

wtf are you showing me spread sheets, for? ya gimp

[lunar hare]

you started this, not us

[blazing citrus]

what is this sentence meant to mean?

[unique bramble]

Maybe because a spreadsheet is the best way to write information about a looter shooter?

[blazing citrus]

like the main text. i understood the insult

[distant otter]

Can someone on playstation help me get a Saint Elmo.

[vague bear]

I’ll help you tommoro 👍🏾

[blazing citrus]

ah. i was correcting your misinformation with possibly the most reliable source of info 🙏

[vague bear]

We’ll get you into legendary with us 👍🏾

[distant otter]

can u send me ur build for raids also?

[kind veldt]

while also a bit of RNG you can try i think it's true sons retaliations, they drop blueprint to craft the exotics from scratch, but you cant choose much which blueprint they will drop, but once you got it it wont drop anymore so in due time you should get a st elmo

[mellow girder]

if no one wants this hazard emperors guard im going to crunch eem

[unique bramble]

Use the LFG channels and don't trust Rizla

[blazing citrus]

"trust no-one. not even yourself" :3

[tender quartz]

did they change something about exotic crafting, when I was last active I could only reconfigure

[distant otter]

wym don't trust rizla?

[blazing citrus]

with retaliation they added exotic blueprints

[kind veldt]

retaliation mode you can get crafting blueprints

to make them from 0

[tender quartz]

you craft them with retaliation rewards?

[kind veldt]

yeap

[distant otter]

how do i start a true sons retaliation (im practically new since i ain't played in years)

[tender quartz]

they're proper rolls not like the garbage rolls you get with regular crafting?

[unique bramble]

Trust has to be earned

-Captain Lewis True son Deserter

[kind veldt]

open the map and there should be a new tab called retaliation, whenever you kill an enemy or do an activity of that faction (control points, random open world event, bounty) it increases

when it's full they try to take over a zone and you can activate the game mode to protect it

you will have X minutes to take over all control points of that area

it was added this season

[tender quartz]

there's also a daily project you can do which triggers an immediate retaliation

[kind veldt]

but it's for one random faction

i'm pretty sure st elmo blueprint is from true sons, so you would need to just go after true sons to get a retaliation from them going

[distant otter]

oh i was in one before and failed it💀💀

[unique bramble]

But it's different for everybody? In my game today, it was true sons retaliation percentage.

[kind veldt]

it changes daily

[fallen marten]

+ Friend of Manny/Ally of Home-Sec.

[cold narwhal]

Dear Division 2 devteam,
Please convert one of the inaccessible spaces at The Castle into a playpen for the robo-pups, so that we may visit them when the event is over

Think I will actually put this in suggestions 😅

[tender quartz]

put it in Haven next to the doggy you can pet

[cold narwhal]

I fear the transport to nyc may be difficult given that one is always farting napalm, but maybe

[rustic sleet]

Be honest is there any other build that does insane amount of damage as tipping scales?

Besides one shot sniper with determined and pistol build

[lunar hare]

HHF maybe

[rustic sleet]

what’s that?

[left oriole]

Tipping scale with rate of fire 392 rifle with lucky shot, it can stack up to almost 3 million per bullet. Melt armored tanks in 2 sec

[iron adder]

Fully stacked striker with striker chest outperforms tipping scale

[rustic sleet]

Really? Cause I’ve used striker and it’s not as crazy as the numbers I’ve been getting from tipping

[rustic sleet]

Never tried it, might see what that’s about

[iron adder]

Dps is calculated with rpm, bullet damage (BOTH crit and non crit), crit ratio, etc. Crit only bullet damage is only a mini part of the equation.

[rustic sleet]

guess i need to fix my things better, cause I’ve been using tipping with a chest piece 8% crit with focus and then overdogs

[tardy cairn]

randomly joined a summit game thru someone in my clan and got the tempest

[undone timber]

Focus is an extremely ehh talent

[rustic sleet]

Well it’s 50% damage compared to the others being 20% which is why I picked it

[undone timber]

For which you need to be zoomed with an 8x for quite some time

[rustic sleet]

Well I figured, if I’m gonna be shooting to build my stacks might as well be getting more damage while I’m shooting to gain those stacks

What would be something else that would be good? I know obliterate is decent

[undone timber]

Obliterate and glass cannon are the heavy hitters

[iron adder]

Btw perfect focus is better than regular focus + any brandset bonus

[rustic sleet]

Oh yeah I’m trying to farm that next

[rustic sleet]

Ill be super squishy tho since I’m already 6 red

[iron adder]

Perfect focus outperforms any other chest fully stacked. It's just the zooming in that is inconvenient.

[jagged prism]

there's also chainkiler perfect head hunter/head hunter talent if you go the rifle/mmr route

[unique bramble]

Looks like somebody got silenced nice work mods

[undone timber]

Assuming heroic you'll already be dying in like a couple bullets so it doesn't make a crazy difference

[cold narwhal]

Aw man I missed it

[unique summit]

Can confirm. I actually did this test recently out of curiosity in case you want to have it on hand:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BMm6Sd7YVm8N4Z-8Ta_zrE7Ely3jq68rxMbQnp8t6fI/edit?usp=sharing

The one big difference though is it takes about 16 seconds of continuous firing to stack up striker chest. For Tipping Scales it's only about 9 seconds.

And their burst/sustain is within a couple percent of each other.

[keen kayak]

I like Tank builds but a group only needs 1 of them. 3 tanks and 1 DPS for legendary is dumb. Get some DPS so you don't get overwhelmed and have to rely on 1 person to kill all the enemies. Useless tanks when 3 of them can't keep the aggro off of one DPS

[unique summit]

The correct amount of tanks in legendary is zero

[keen kayak]

Exactly

When you can kill 5 enemies in the time it takes 3 other to kill one there is a problem

[unique summit]

Turret drone builds are the same way. Those builds just don't make sense and make everything harder.

And makes the DPS have to work so much more to stay upright.

[keen kayak]

I was getting bombed, droned and chunga focused

[unique summit]

Yep. You will get most of the aggro and they'll just ignore the tank guy.

Tank guy just runs around having a boxing match with one purple enemy.

[keen kayak]

And the other 3 couldn't even kill fast enough to not get overwhelmed

[unique summit]

Which mission was it?

[keen kayak]

Zoo

[unique summit]

Ah. Just use it as practice for solo carries. It's very satisfying once you get decent at it.

Need to find good positions and treat the tm8s as decoys basically.

Aviary is really hard though. No getting around that.

[keen kayak]

That's the problem is that they were running ahead and starting the room before setup then not pushing up when I cleared 3/4ths of the enemies

[unique summit]

Yep they do that too. They just start blasting at the first enemy they see which causes the drone operators to run into the back and start spamming.

Then you end up stuck for 10+ minutes on a room that should only take 60 seconds!

[keen kayak]

Yup Overdogs be damned Controllers need to die first then bombers

[unique summit]

This happens a lot in Chambers (Capitol mission) where you'll try to run up top but some dude starts shooting as soon as you enter the room. That causes everything to aggro and you likely die trying to get up there.

Zoo is my favorite mission but it can be annoying with the wrong team.

[keen kayak]

You mean with people that don't pass the DPS check

Being in a group where I am the only DMG is worse than being in a group where everything dies before I even get a chance to shoot at it.

May as well just solo

Unless it's 3 hearlers and I can just go godmode, those are fun as well

[unique summit]

Depends on what you're going for. I like the challenge of suboptimal groups.

Gotta be in the right mood for it though b/c it can get frustrating too.

[distant otter]

i'm still grinding summit and Countdown still nothing lol

[dusty furnace]

I'm so confused as a new player for the first quest

[kind veldt]

what first quest?

[keen kayak]

So I think I just got kicked from The Manager Master because my Rifle was kicking ass and they thought I was hacking lol

[dusty furnace]

Can anyone explain what to do on dawns early light I've reached the white house but there isn't anything next

[keen kayak]

Kills Chungus in 1.5 seconds lol

It also breaks their chain gun ammo in like 3-5 shots depending on how many stacks you have

[dusty furnace]

DW had to reload was bugged not a great start

[fallen marten]

Heya Chooms, how are you all holding up tonight?

[dusk jackal]

What are we in, night city?

[strange chasm]

we like the division

[manic garden]

so... uh... the payday outfits are back in the store. i got them already from the event (yay) the only thing i missed are the sidney mask and trophy. is there a way i can claim them now?

[kind veldt]

i think the sydney mask was from buying a bundle

[manic garden]

yea, but is also in completen rewards

[keen kayak]

Does anyone else have a skill that they get like 90% of the mods will be that skill? For me it is Firefly. I swear I get like 100 Firefly mods before I get another skill mod.

[manic garden]

yep... i guess its a feature

[sullen torrent]

for pc, any idea when this game went on sale last time? when will be in sale again?

[full zinc]

It was on sale recently, not sure specific dates. If you put it on a steam wishlist youll get notified hen it comes up again

[jagged prism]

Black Friday is around the corner

[fallen marten]

Oh god— I was just hit with another seizure by that same control point above the White House

Didn’t even try to slug through it like last time, I just quit to home screen while I was still kicking under cover

[tender quartz]

get your agent to a doctor

he may have CTE from being hit on the head by Hyenas too many times

[high heart]

oh my god i feel so dumb,
i didnt know you could optimise a stat to get it max, MULTIPLE TIMES. here was me thinking I had to farm again for a perfect carbine 7 because its only 15% health damage

[crystal ferry]

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[plush otter]

hey, just as a heads up, as someone asked me to double check and see what the discrepancy was that made it seem that a TS could be on par with chest striker, because usually chest striker is quite ahead.
it seems that while the damage side is all good, you took the TS weapon stats and applied it to all, in the case of striker that should be higher on the rpm for the +15% on striker, and also technically with a smaller mag and a slower reload, but that is the issue causing TS to seem a little too good.
as the actual results should be for comparing TS to SB is that in similar layouts TS is on par with HE chest striker, and Striker Chest striker is quite a bit ahead.

[fallen marten]

The map itself was attacking me via sensory overload, I was able to pull through normally but not this time— my eyes were twitching

[tender quartz]

damn I thought you were talking about a bug. Sorry about your medical condition, sounds like it sucks

[fallen marten]

It is a very loud and rabid looking bug, the floor will come up and devour your view, or even make the enemies invisible, save for their icons and their bullets connecting with you

I would’ve recorded it but I don’t want to hurt anyone with it, epilepsy inducing it is

[unique summit]

Thank you for the correction! A silly mistake on my part... copy/pasting. Should be fixed now.

Funny thing is I always double check reference damage on the right but completely spaced on RPM and mag size.

[wooden trellis]

Anyone have a issue with the BT invasion this week? Did all the unlock missions, but it's telling me to do the Faye invaded White Oak again.

[vital merlin]

I love this game:)

[fallen marten]

I do too but that glitch nearly made my eyes burn up and split—

[tender quartz]

does golden bullet make the drone and turret shoot faster?

[spice saddle]

How do I get dz credits? I deconstructed some items in dz for it and extracted but it says I have 0 still

[unique summit]

Check your stash. They should be in the Mailbox.

[fallen marten]

Welp

Looks like in BF4– I’m better at using a 1014 boomstick in comparison to the humble 416

I have an idea though—

416 + 1014 plus a pistol similar to the CZ-75?

With a reviver hive and a armor repair drone or repair gun?

[open widget]

I just logged into my second character and I had a priority target network waiting for me. I got so confused as to what it was because I haven't seen it since I first bought the game and completely forgot about it since, it's not appeared on my main character a single time since 2020. and I searched the messages in this server and that was the last mention of the term as well.

It looked really cool on the map but idk if I'll ever get it to trigger again

[south topaz]

That moment when u realize only u r in the up and everyone camping below 🤦🏻‍♂️

[unique summit]

haha! I actually prefer that over some other possibilities.

Like when everyone follows you and clumps all around within sniffing distance.

[spare cove]

6 days left

[thin oasis]

Honestly its better to farm for close to perfect rolls rather than optimise.

As a general rule, no more than 3 optimisations per piexe

[cold narwhal]

Theres tons of stuff I didn’t realize even after I was like 1k hours

It took me way too long to find out you ignited chem launcher by tapping the button again

My dumb ass thought I had to shoot it 🤣

I’m pretty sure almost no one knows that (generally speaking) dttooc is the best thing to roll on a weapon until someone tells them or they see a guide somewhere.

[molten spire]

it's the old bounty system from before Warlords of New York, if you played through the expansion it gets replaced by the current bounty system

[open widget]

so it only activated because my second character never did wony? I used the lv40 boost on it

[molten spire]

yes

[open widget]

thanks, good to know

[wise peak]

Huh that’s actually surprising to me. Thought they’ve gotten rid of the old bounty system entirely😅.

[open widget]

I guess they kept it around for those who were still in world tiers and then didn't bother ripping it out when they removed world tiers

[wise peak]

The old system kinda sucked from what I remember. Wasn’t there a currency for the bounties you needed to do more higher difficulty bounties. I honestly can’t fully remember how the old system worked back then.

[open widget]

thankfully I didn't have to get any intel
this is how it works in TD1 as well,you have to grind intel first and then buy HVTs

[wise peak]

Right now it’s coming back to me. On the higher difficulty ones I remember you’ve had one shot on division one. I don’t know if it was the same for division 2.

[dense mica]

The old system was proper messed up. Especially builds. Everyone was stacking high armour, go in DZ and it took you so long to die even a player shooting you aswell

[jagged prism]

probably because of high chance, damage and utilizing the Clutch Gloves

[dense mica]

Just straight stupid

[jagged prism]

then the 3 ish gearsets were tied to specific specializations which was amusing

Negotiator's used to be tied to Demolitionist and when you lost your armor lob explosives at who broke your armor 😹

[dense mica]

Aces was a good build for Dark Hours till the new system came

[jagged prism]

gears 1.0 was that when the gearsets lost the specific specialziations to wear or did it still continue but instead of 6 pc it dropped to the 4pc? hated that change a little too
go DZ shoot a guy to make them lose their armor then explosives hit me over and over until i go down

back then the meta for pvp was practically 4 nego, zerk chest and clutch gloves

[signal fractal]

Can the rock and roll shotgun drop from enemies

[spare cove]

You're more likely to get one from Named Items Caches or getting one by farming Countdown/Retaliation with Shotgun Targeted Loot

[signal fractal]

Okay I was just curious if setting loot to shotgun if it can drop. Thank you.

I like the acs but I feel like the rock and roll would be better for building stacks

[kind veldt]

Its a DZ item

[signal fractal]

Ah I can’t get it from countdown or buying the named cache?

[kind veldt]

not from countdown, but can get it from named caches

countdown vendor can randomly have it also

in the weekly reset

[signal fractal]

@kind veldt do you think it’s worth getting for the 10 extra bullets or is it better to run acs with brazen or optimist

[kind veldt]

you use rock and roll if you really want ot build striker stacks really fast or you really love ACS

[tropic sentinel]

Better get Lefty.

[kind veldt]

For real spongy bosses, sure

[signal fractal]

Why the lefty?

[kind veldt]

The talent is a big debuff againt tanky targets

[signal fractal]

Ah so basically get to build up stacks fast and debuff the enemy. That sounds prettt good to me

So it would come in handy for the first few hunters in countdown ?

[kind veldt]

Sure

[signal fractal]

Ok lol just wanted to ask if it’s worth spending money on named caches over optimization

Also says you have to hit the enemy with a grenade for the damage boost on lefty

[tropic sentinel]

It comes in handy in many scenarios where elite mobs are involved. For extra spice run survivalist. You toss a nade at a choke/spawn point, your all team gets very nice boost. Rocknrolls extra mag size is fairly meh.

[tender wave]

At the moment you can farm mini warhounds for named items including dz ones.
Just start a Houndsman bounty, go clear the first 5 warhounds, then run west until you get the 'bounty target lost' message and repeat.

[signal fractal]

I did the whole event and got the whole set, the pistol and dark winter 🙌

[signal fractal]

I do have a maxed out lefty so might have to switch to that

[signal fractal]

Stupid question but does the riot foam launcher trigger that effect

[tropic sentinel]

Lefty's talent is only from grenade. Foam would trigger survivalist's damage boost though.

[signal fractal]

I’ll have to switch out from gunner

[tender wave]

You can just use regular grenade, gunner doesn't lock you to foam

[jagged prism]

ohhh, that's clever!

[umbral dock]

You can even switch between them live, in combat. Just hold down your grenade button

[signal fractal]

What’s the most efficient way to get max level proficiency for st Elmo and overdog gloves

[jolly kettle]

What mission was tinker mask again?

[tender wave]

Use them and/or donate excess materials (although it's better to save materials for items that aren't effective to use)

[tender wave]

The manager manhunt, Potomac event centre

[jolly kettle]

🙂

[signal fractal]

Does it take a long time cause I’ve been using st Elmo for a long time and says I don’t have any profiency level for it

[tender wave]

You certain it's not actually max proficiency then? You'll see a shield icon with a star in it if it is

[signal fractal]

Will it be next to the gun when I hover over it?

I’ll send you a picture of it in builds

[tender wave]

You can see it on the weapon icon in your inventory, bottom right

[jolly kettle]

Any other smg i can use with tecnician laser pointer, i have dark winter, others?

[green bough]

WTF... is there a bug where your progress on the Halloween event progress gets reset? I had 3/4 complete of Neutralize Named Hyena.... Then I just killed 4/4 and now its back to 0? I didn't get the project update,, no chest... just reset itself.... I'm back to 0/4, no cache, the "day" didnt change in the project.... just 2 hours of running Grand Washington Hotel lost

[thin oasis]

The final project (day 7) i repeatable

[stark heron]

Hyenas isn't day 7

[jolly kettle]

Did not get tinker , can i get it more then once rng based?

[kind veldt]

you can farm the mission for more drops, master mode only gives a guaranteed drop on the first clear

[jolly kettle]

Ok. Do you know smg weapons that support tecnician laser pointer kettle :)?

[tender wave]

Not off the top of my head, try the experts in #td2-build-advice

[jolly kettle]

Ok:)thanks

[novel laurel]

Vector .45, mp5 (not classic) and ump, off the top of my head

[hot wigeon]

Has the ETF invites gone out yet?

[jagged prism]

so they're semi changing the referral rewards huh?

[kind veldt]

Might just update the rewards like they did before

[jagged prism]

ah, yeah no clue if i recognize the 2nd outfit and backpack

[tiny oar]

try master difficulty its a garanteed drop

[jagged prism]

on your first clear btw, after you obtained it on your character it drops significantly. think 14%ish?

[jolly kettle]

Yes but thinker was added after i completed mission and got another reward instead so , i dont think i get it first time completed mission

Yet

[jagged prism]

create new character, get it to 40 run it on that character?

[jolly kettle]

Well want to use it on primary

[left mesa]

I'm curious to what extent developers are able to make certain things cool for players when it comes to apparel.
The current Friend Referral program is getting refreshed soon. Official info from moment ago.
People responsible for the in-game store could just put that insurgent uniform permanently there to buy for 830 credits or something.

[jagged prism]

uh, get it, put it in the stash?

[jolly kettle]

Yes god idear. Just wonder if i make a fresh start with new charachter can i put a build in stash and use it right away or after level 30, 40?

[jagged prism]

should be able to. if you got the room in your stash, you'd just have to pull the gear and weapons out on it

[jolly kettle]

I can think about it 🙂 thanks

I want to try master today and see :).

To get thinker, main charachter first

[tender wave]

Tinkerer was added as the same time as the manhunt mission, you could only have done the regular, non manhunt version before it was released

[jolly kettle]

What was the confusion with tempest and catalyst or? Well it will be rng then, but i could give it a try master or heroic :).

[ornate reef]

Honest question whats your guys opinion on division 1 and should I or should I not try it out for the first time

[tender quartz]

it's great, enemies are a bit more bullet sponge and recoil is worse than td2, but fun once you get into it

[jagged prism]

tempest dropped instead of tinkerer in the mission when this season started

[fallen marten]

I got another Lefty and my first Rock n Roll just last Friday :3

[jolly kettle]

How can poeple use hearbreaker with bonus armor while shooting use other specializations then tecnician
See a lot of people playing with other specializations while they have heartbreaker build even on exotic weapons

[lyric sigil]

mini warhounds drops them 🙂

[fallen marten]

I want to pet the doggos :3

[lyric sigil]

start with Harrison 😛

[fallen marten]

What’s heartbreakers shtick again? I have forgor

[kind veldt]

get bonus armor and damage stacks when hitting pulsed enemies, hitting a headshot briefly pulses an enemy, on release it was just better striker

[jolly kettle]

Bird why can they use otherspec...

[jagged prism]

" hitting a headshot briefly pulses an enemy"
as he just said about it answering Kelly E-816

[kind veldt]

You can still use regular pulse skills also

[kind veldt]

#lfg-pc

[split terrace]

Definitely try it. I still play it.

[shell laurel]

Kinda wish we could get some of the camos from Breakpoint & Wildlands & some helmets from Vegas 2 like the Rainbow Six helmet. The camos in Div 2 is not exactly the best, especially Multicam

[harsh marsh]

Does anyone know when the Christmas mask for killing the hunters is available on the summit

[shell laurel]

you get it during december. currently doing the floors in prep for dec too

[harsh marsh]

Dammit I forgot I don't have floor 100 anymore 😭

If i join someone on December and we do floor 100 will it still get me the mask

[shell laurel]

Lol yeah, me neither, currently on lvl 30-ish so got a crap load to do before dec comes before i'll do that hunter fight. i think so but i doubt it

[upbeat umbra]

random ahh question, how many SHD calibrations do optimization caches give?

[grave timber]

Depending

No one is ready for next week

After 6 years we are finally going to kill that boss that has been evading us for a long time

Maybe if they show up either one of them or both

[upbeat umbra]

om what

[grave timber]

On rng

It could give you 1, 3, 2, 5, or 4

[upbeat umbra]

is it 20% chance for each amount?

[grave timber]

Maybe I was just saying random numbers

Best to get shd levels and use the watch for it it's faster

Or If you are max on blue mats then craft it I usually do it twice to get 20 shd calibration

[buoyant gulch]

Sup folks my name’s Red 🤣I just got back into The Division 2 a couple weeks ago and just happened across this Discord how’s everyone

[upbeat umbra]

crafting it with blue mats is an enormous waste of resources

[grave timber]

Just saying to me I do it twice or 3 times a month

Besides by the time you have all kinds of builds made and the best weapons and gear crafted the mats will just sit there collecting dust

[upbeat umbra]

how many named enemies per Control Point?

[distant quail]

On heroic I think it ranges from 1 to 2 named enemies

[lunar hare]

3-4

[upbeat umbra]

source?

[small spear]

heroic is just 2, 1 on attack and 1 on defense

[lunar hare]

wait is it just two? my mind fkn with me now

[small spear]

rogue agents can spawn after but i'm assuming you don't want to factor this in a usual scenario

below heroic there are 0 named enemies

[willow latch]

is the stinger being remove from the game

[kind veldt]

we dont know

unlikely to permanently removed

[willow latch]

ok is just i dont have the blueprint

[kind veldt]

you are talking about the costume?

[iron adder]

there's also the stinger gun that may or may not go away

[kind veldt]

wasnt sure if the gun was also named stinger

the weird LMG

[sly tundra]

Complete Blueprint list [Y7S2/TU25]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQZF6R-PYMsz9UeqCRCktZ3GW05T60Tru_BCU0J4VGSDrsB_ipKCPBNDmeSwOuQ-vigsh8h73d8Kcso/pubhtml

[keen kayak]

Golden Bullet worth it?

[fiery temple]

@harsh marsh@shell laurelif you need an elivator .. i can give you a ride

any one doing brooklin hunters??

[fallen marten]

Same goes for level 4 control points on challenging

[small spear]

i'm basically equating level 4 with heroic

[fiery temple]

1 atack 1 defence (Ithink the 4 for the holster project spawn in seprately but i dont remember ) and there are a few where you can pull a world boss

[fallen marten]

Aahh, that’s fair

[hybrid cloak]

What’s the fastest way to level up?

[lunar hare]

check #ask-td2-community pins

assuming you're lvl40 already

[topaz robin]

So the friend referral program is ending. What a shame. It's never worked correctly for most people in the first place. I know I bought the game for three different family members and tried to run it that way. Never got a thing. I wonder if they'll make the Trophy & Blueprint available throgh some type of project? Or will we just all be screwed. I have a feeling I know the answer but....... It would be a really nice change of pace to be wrong.

[hybrid cloak]

60

[lunar hare]

sixty what

[lunar hare]

????

[keen kayak]

What is the Apparel Event and why isn't it in Timeline?

[fair oriole]

What's the best difficulty to farm the bighorn on?

[unique summit]

run legendary dua. 5% drop rate from boss.

any legendary mission will do but dua is fastest/easiest.

[fair oriole]

Dua?

[unique summit]

district union arena

[fair oriole]

ahhhh ok ok i'll give it a run

[sly tundra]

GL!

[fair oriole]

Legendary not hard just the rng that's gonna suck

[sly tundra]

I was saying for both.

[keen kayak]

RNG in DUA is are your teammates going to be good or not.

[sly tundra]

With modifiers ya I guess it's not that hard.

[bold bison]

I need some damn help. I’m trying not to give up on this game but it seems like I’m getting nowhere with any of these yt builds and I’m weak at lvl 40

[keen kayak]

Find a good gun and make your own build

[bold bison]

I don’t have the knowledge to do so. Idek what’s strong anymore, I haven’t played since release

[keen kayak]

What gun do you like?

[fair oriole]

i typically tend to play solo lol

[sly tundra]

#td2-build-advice and Pinned Messages > sheet > Build Hub

[wooden hazel]

guys, does the Tip of the Spear gear set generate specialization weapon ammo in the DZs?

[dire ravine]

No

[tired nymph]

I tried replicating some old Division 2 screenshots where people could layer a mask atop of a store bought apparel mask, I guess that got patched as of recently as I can't seem to replicate it.

Seems that the change has also made the huntsman outfit have a permanent bare skin glitch for the agent's collar and neck.

[tender wave]

Not sure why no-one mentioned summit, it's a lot faster than DUA runs:
Get to a boss floor (10 or 90 for preference). Set difficulty to legendary (target loot and directives don't help so set them however you want). Go in, kill all bosses but leave at least one regular enemy alive, then fast travel to lobby and repeat.

[brisk copper]

Cheshire Cat, Just for your info the trouble with Lag, I had to turn off the Overlay setting in Ubisoft Connect and so far so good.

[crimson osprey]

The problem with that for me anyway, is that summit has a chance to drop targeted loot. Cause I get exotics all the time on floor 10 but they aren’t targeted it’s random. Is this because I’m on floor 10? Should I go higher?

[tender wave]

Going higher isn't inherently going to help.
Target loot has a chance to drop only when a regular loot drop occurs. Bosses are guaranteed to drop a piece of target loot and also have a higher chance of dropping an exotic, but their target loot drop doesn't have a higher chance of being exotic. So what you're seeing is the initial, non target drop then you're not getting lucky on the secondary, targeted drop.

I'm not sure I explained that very well

[grave timber]

That's how I got my first one

[tired nymph]

I just got the Overlord to drop from a random supply convoy, interesting luck on that one

[spare cove]

Well, it might be a useful counter against Quickstep in PvP.

So, y'know, keep it

Also, 5 days left till the Climax Mission

[grave timber]

Yup

[grave timber]

And chances they will be there after 6 years they are finally making an appearance I hope maybe both of them or one of them at least

[cold narwhal]

It has removed that ability for some but not for others (basically all the “masks” that are actually headwear/helmets)
most annoyingly, it removed the ability from that recent red visor helmet from a credits bundle. So now instead of a cool custom unified mask/helmet, you just have a dorkass chin strap and it looks dumb

Im hoping it’s a bug and not intentional

[tired nymph]

Yeah, I got that bundle specifically for the extra credits and the ability to previously double up on masks for some cool combos

[undone timber]

TS is the only exotic gun I still don't have somehow

[spare cove]

TS?

[azure apex]

is it still possible to get the tinkerer mask or?

[young oak]

Yes, you'll need to complete the manhunt mission "The Manager". For a guaranteed drop, complete on master difficulty. For all other difficulties it's a chance drop. The chance is improved the higher the difficulty.

[azure apex]

ohh right forgot all about the master difficulty for that..

[tiny oar]

why did the iventory ui changed ? how do i get it back to normal ?

[tired nymph]

Just took out the Kelso rogue agent with another random player, got the patriot mask from it

Oof. That watch trohpy backpack trinket looks pretty neat..

[azure apex]

whats the best thing to buy from the golden bullet rewards?

[rare dove]

i reported a cheater with the video with ticket, ubisoft support said they can't share whether they gonna do anything about it.

[cold narwhal]

I only buy exotic caches but that's cause exotic components are the only thing I really need more of.
If you want something else get that instead

[tight gorge]

Theopanel Costume Set, Day 1 of the Trial Magistrate

[cold narwhal]

If there are some named items you are looking for get legacy or named caches.

[azure apex]

the seasonal cashe not worth? idk what it can drop

[cold narwhal]

The regular seasonal cache is just stuff from this season, which you are likely already getting constantly if you play regularly

[azure apex]

thanks exotics it is then i guess! toe get weapons like chatterbox nemesis etc i need to unlock first?

[cold narwhal]

Yes

[azure apex]

Cheers for the quick replies!

[cold narwhal]

I believe so

I think any project constructed weapons or raid/inc exclusives won't enter the pool until you get one already, but someone correct me if I'm wrong

Actually I don't think you can get raid or incursion ones at all from them. I certainly never have

[azure apex]

i think ur right ya, havent been able to see any of em drop yet. started 9 days ago

[kind veldt]

exotic caches dont drop raid exotics

[azure apex]

thanks for confirming Bird! but i was mainly wondering about the chatterbox and such

[cold narwhal]

They really want you to play those raids despite not having anything related to one in years😂

[azure apex]

last time i played the raid it was just released and everyonr was struggling fun times

[cold narwhal]

That actually sounds kinda cool

I love trying to figure out new mechanics and such

Was fun doing it when the incursion came out

[azure apex]

it was really fun and so hard to get gear sets cause there was no tinkering and such

[cold narwhal]

💀

[azure apex]

and no one knew the mechanics, we played for like 2 weeks straight same party never been able to finish the raid as of today xd

[cold narwhal]

Lol

[azure apex]

so thats my main goal XD

[cold narwhal]

I learned & completed the raids by connecting with a clan via their discord, I don't even remember why I went to that specific one tbh but it worked out. They were very helpful and friendly about it.
But I think most if not all of them are only on PS4/5 otherwise I could send an invite

[azure apex]

ahh thats sad my ps4 just broke down thts what made me buy the game on the ps. but thankjs for the offer tho!

[cold narwhal]

Rip PS4

[ebon sinew]

do i need to get the 6 keys in DH Raid to open the chest for Eagle Bearer?

or 1 is enough

[kind veldt]

All keys

[timber hatch]

5 keys

[signal fractal]

Modifiers get turned off for challenging countdown?

[hybrid ore]

@distant otter You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[remote pecan]

depends on the countdown lead

[solid hawk]

What nobody runs active clans anymore lol

[fluid meadow]

depends where you look

#td2-clan-recruitment check there and see who's most active

[solid hawk]

I’ve put a message in there asking if it was active and nobody is or at least nobody replied

[harsh marsh]

Wait who

[grave timber]

I can't say it's possibly a spoiler

[harsh marsh]

Sure

[grave timber]

I saw the name in the unavailable comm a small glitch that's why I made the comment

[harsh marsh]

Ahh my thing does that sometimes

[grave timber]

Yeah if you have a comm and go to a empty space you can see the description of the next comms it's like a split second but it's there

[harsh marsh]

It's very helpful for finding comms ngl Especially if you have one of those apps where you can see where stuff is

[hybrid ore]

Reminder to LFG in the LFG channels, not in here.

[cold narwhal]

Our self respect

Need to finish that guy off once and for all

[languid gust]

returning player after 4 years, so lost, now that i just hit lvl 40 do i salvage\sell all my under 40 gear? is any of it worth keeping\disenchanting for traits?

[kind veldt]

Keep exotics, you can just reroll them to lv40

[languid gust]

anyone want to join me and help me reorient\update my understanding of the game,

any way to find named hyenas besides doing bounties?

[lunar hare]

control points

[lyric sigil]

ideally lvl4 🙂

[languid gust]

harder cp means more named or?

[lunar hare]

no, they're guaranteed to spawn between 1-2 bosses per

[kind veldt]

Lv4 control points has named enemies

[languid gust]

aha

[jolly kettle]

Which lmg has high rpm?

[languid gust]

can someone tell me how to get to my bount between 18th and 19th downtown west between e and f ive been runnign aroudn teh whoel lbock forever

[tender wave]

You can extract talents and skill cores from them but the rest of the stats will be too low to be useful

[languid gust]

actually top of constitution hall area

[lunar hare]

mk249 and mg50 are basically the same IIRC but they have the highest RPM (both are High End LMGs)

[kind veldt]

negev

[tender wave]

Was the first area of the bounty a construction site? If so there's a grey door at the back which looks like it doesn't open but actually does.

[languid gust]

yes it is but no it doesn :((( i thought youd saved me

do these just bug out osmetimes? or is there gear i can use that will highlight doors ?

im liek right on top of the nemeis but therye on other side of wall ofhboxes

[sly tundra]

M249/Negev at 850rpm then MG5 at 800rpm

exo wise Pesti at 935rpm

[jolly kettle]

Ok

Bluescreen?

[sly tundra]

720rpm

all these are in the gearsheet in the Pinned Messages in #td2-build-advice

[jolly kettle]

I want a light high rpm lmg weapon easy to target enemies?

[tender wave]

You might be looking at the wrong door. If you go back to the way you came in, you come around some fencing and turn right to face the outdoor area, the doors you need are straight ahead at the back.

[sly tundra]

"light"?

[jolly kettle]

Well

[languid gust]

theres a windwo i have to clibm through on youtube video but i cant clibm through it

its just hte vault button to climb right?

[viscid pelican]

Did anyone manage to find the hidden secret skeleton backpack trophy in dcd?

If you haven't, check the skeletons out in the research area.

[jolly kettle]

I can try

[viscid pelican]

I found it a few hours ago

[jolly kettle]

Ok nice

I have to check first:)

[viscid pelican]

There are 4 skeletons in that room, one of them holds the key 🔑 to getting it. Im not trying to fully give it away

[tender wave]

https://youtu.be/Wr4hb3OnDeE?t=338 this is the original side mission but the route you take through is the same for bounties at that location

[viscid pelican]

Thats a big hint tho

[languid gust]

figuer dit out i had vault indicators turend off and didnt knwo lcibm was a seperate keybidn lol thakns so much

[tender wave]

no probs

that one gets a lot of people confused because usually doors that look like that just don't open

[languid gust]

is it currently xp bonus on conflict? where do i go for most consicse list of current events.

how od i upt he lvl of a control point? chanigng world difficulty?

are the question marks on my map going to stay discovered if i go to them or do they rotate/emerge as unklnown activities even if im done them?

are dailies/descent worrth doin?

[tender wave]

For current events, check the seasons tile on the main esc menu, then tab across to the timeline. Conflict bonus was last week I think, now we have the Golden Bullet global event.
Level up control points by doing open world activities that are connected to them by a line, or just increase your world difficulty to heroic to set them all to max (lvl 4).
Question marks do stay discovered, next time you get the same activity in the same location it'll show what it is.

[wooden hazel]

@candid oar no? it can drop for anyone with blueprint of nemesis, then they can share it with me

[candid oar]

maybe recently there was a change that I missed, it could be possible, but from what I know there is a very easy quest to do to get it

[wooden hazel]

yuh but i'll need to wait 2 weeks to get it if i do the quest

so i prefer to farm exotics+good stat items to skip it

[tender wave]

Daily projects are worth doing early on, they're a good source of blueprints and specialisation points. Later, not so much, but can be worth it just for the variety. Descent is very much a matter of taste, worth giving it a go but if you hate it then don't bother.

[candid oar]

descent is easy, but there isn't a guide that tells you what to do, and all yt videos that claim themselves as "guides" are garbage,
the only way to learn descent is to play with somebody that can teach you, but it's a very easy game mode.

[tender wave]

Easy vs hard is not the only contributing factor for whether you enjoy it enough to spend time in there.

[languid gust]

wanna be a sherpa?

[swift rose]

Hi everyone, getting back into the game again, after many years. Kinda overwhelming how much there is to do.

[unique summit]

Solution: do things until there is nothing left to do. Then do it all over again

[swift rose]

lol, have been playing Destiny 2 for the past years, kinda similar in that regard 😛

[dark sand]

the lore man take it one step at a time

[fair oriole]

Ok yeah that don’t sound like a bad strategy

[hybrid ore]

@fierce badger You're looking for #td1-general

[trim palm]

That guy was rude...

[fierce badger]

If you think that was rude then you might want to stay off the internet because you're definitely going to get your feelings hurt pretty quick..

[trim palm]

I'm good thanks.

[fierce badger]

That's your choice but don't try to blame it on anybody else when your feelings get hurt.

[trim palm]

See, I don't get myself into situations where I do get my feelings hurt because I'm a nice guy. So... No need to get my feelings hurt if I'm not anticipating them to be hurt.

Also, I hope that Irish flag isn't an anti immigration statement.

[fierce badger]

Actually the Irish flag is because I'm from Ireland and I came from Ireland to the States LEGALLY... Wasn't hard whatsoever others should try it.. hope that eases your precious little soul

[hybrid ore]

@fierce badger Drop the attitude, there's no need to be so confrontational.
Consider this a pre-official warning.

[fierce badger]

It's amazing how you can pick up an attitude through text whenever I don't have an attitude. Lol

[hybrid ore]

@trim palm @fierce badger Both of you drop whatever this is now. I am not having this today.

[trim palm]

Will do.

[mellow girder]

Borger

[kind veldt]

i do miss a good burguer

[fierce badger]

I do have a question here if I have someone blocked why and they still see my posts? Or should I hit ignore instead

[tender wave]

They still see your posts, you just don't see theirs

[trim palm]

Does it not work both ways?

[fierce badger]

Well that's unfortunate

[hybrid ore]

In this case though, they will still see mine. As I'm a mod on here.

[trim palm]

Ah

[fierce badger]

Actually it doesn't Riven because I have you blocked and you show up as blocked message every time you say something. I just know what you're saying because I hit the see option

[tender wave]

Yeah the mods need to be able to see every post in case there's something we need to act on, can't have people hiding their posts from us

[hybrid ore]

Deleted messages are also logged, so maybe just take a break from online for a while, you seem to be having some stresses on here.

[mellow girder]

Borger

[trim palm]

Chez Borger

[mellow girder]

I like to think I’m a good mediator 🙂

[fierce badger]

Well Mikey you don't tell power Trip like others so you're good

[mellow girder]

Shhhhh, Borger

[mellow girder]

Don’t take anything personal on the internet, at the end of the day it’s pixels on a screen

[blazing citrus]

this is the division 2 chat right?

[hybrid ore]

allegedly.

[mellow girder]

Borger chat now 🙂

[blazing citrus]

its a shame we dont have more skill effects/skins

[hybrid ore]

We're likely getting more soon, as there's now a tab for them in the store.

[fierce badger]

Speaking of borgers oh not by any means I don't take anything personal in order to take something personal you would have to be someone who affects my life in real life internet is gobs with personalities that aren't real..

[mellow girder]

Who knows, now that uni knows how to implement them I see the store flooding with them

[hybrid ore]

@fierce badger Take a lap, come back after some water.

[blazing citrus]

i believe the tab is only there because the halloween ones are available

[unique summit]

Has anyone watched the movie Dumb and Dumber? I would like a drone skill effect that sounds like "the most annoying sound in the world".

[hybrid ore]

That's the sound that plays in my head whenever I have to hear Theo's mission dialogue.

[unique summit]

Reference material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs

[mellow girder]

Trust if riven was power tripping you wouldn’t be here anymore

[blazing citrus]

lettuce not continue that

[hybrid ore]

Let's be kale about this.

[mellow girder]

Fortnite borger

[hybrid ore]

Absolutely Cabbage reply, there.

[blazing citrus]

we should all baguette all about it. the situation wasnt a gouda thing (ok im going :3)

[mellow girder]

I’m going to end myself in game.

[unique summit]

lettuce quit while we're ahead okay

[trim palm]

Btw is snow coming later this year or 2026

[strange chasm]

oh the humanity

[hybrid ore]

think of the bok-choyldren!

[unique summit]

rivens peas stop

[fallen marten]

What’s going on here lmao???

[sterile cedar]

Tripping on Hyena’s spice

[fallen marten]

Lol, sounds like fun

[mellow girder]

BOrger

[unreal wadi]

are we able to group up with other players in the retaliation mod? I keep getting kicked from my squad when I try to bring my friend in

[strange chasm]

yes, but if your friend have not complete the campaign of that map, then he's auto-disqualified from the group when they try to start up the retaliation

[fallen marten]

Am eating pork chop with fried plantains and salad :3

[tired nymph]

I’ve redone my armor a bit after unlocking more armor groups

Might switch off of my relic backpack as well

[unreal wadi]

bro what the hell even is paradise lost why is it like nightmare difficulty but acting like a story mission?

[wind turret]

Get good lol

[unique summit]

Paradise Lost is treated like a raid. A raid only has one difficulty level ("normal") but you can think of it like Heroic.

What makes raids difficult is the mechanics, not necessarily the enemies.

[wind turret]

Dark Hours is very easy to learn , IH is a bit more complex due to mechanics and builds requirements

[crimson osprey]

If you have a brain and can understand simple mechs and builds you should have no issue with dark hours but IH is a different animal.

[wind turret]

True, I've taught many and well some understanding simple instructions and some never get it

[dusty walrus]

Anyone want to do summit add me

[tired nymph]

Just had my first rogue agent incursion via a random encounter while I was on my way to a bounty. Two of em. Killed em.

[unique summit]

gj

[jolly kettle]

What does this mean Multiplier Event
Runs November 7 to November 10.

Advance your Expertise faster with double upgrade materials from all sources during the event.

[sly tundra]

And it's the scaling in it is fixed so it's not any easier with less people.

[signal grail]

Haven't played in a month since i was hospitalized, any notable events ongoing active atm? I'mm gonna update the game now

[blazing citrus]

halloween event

[stray comet]

Can someone please explain to me how this "Expertise Surge" works, because I don't see double.

[tiny oar]

u drop double brand mats, its written on the event

[lament canyon]

Wrong

[remote pecan]

just double the upgrade materials, no?

[iron adder]

all expertise-related mats

[remote pecan]

yep that kinda implies it

[iron adder]

yup, e.g. deconstruct an exotic and you get two exotic components

[lyric sigil]

just checked, deconstructed 1 mod, got 12 printer filament instead of the usual 6 🤓

[iron adder]

I saved all Halloween chain projects for this

[blazing citrus]

Shame we cant optimize gear and skill mods 🥲

[tiny oar]

yeah but they cna drop at max value on legendary

[tropic sentinel]

You've missed godroll crafting.

[tiny oar]

yeah that was a wild time

and even with that i didnt got all the mods i wanted cause there is too many and its random xd

[tropic sentinel]

Imo they should get rid of mods as drops altogether. Perhaps keep some sort of upgrade progression, but when you have them maxed, you should be able to select whatever option you want on any gear, without taking up inventory space.

[tender wave]

Agreed, skill mods in particular really need a redesign

[iron adder]

I should deconstruct a 13% pfe mod for giggle

[hardy rover]

This game was absolutely what I needed to return to rn lol

The market is oversaturated with PvP or forced pvevp

[proud locust]

Why are all of these factions agitated as hell??

[tender wave]

That's the season theme, they're all upset at us driving them out of their strongholds and generally slaughtering our way through their ranks

[hardy rover]

Thats news to me, they possess all the checkpoints at level 4 for me rn (i totally didnt lower the difficulty to relearn the game when i started replaying 3 days ago and just swapped it back to heroic)

[keen osprey]

If anyone hasnt already, do the halloween project strand on alternate agent slots to get 6 components for every 4 named enemies killed.

Same applies with the manhunt scouts (12 per week)

[proud locust]

More like black tusk fueling proxies causing all factions to come out swinging

It actually gives a lifeline to the factions meaning that every time we take control points. They get agitated fast and throw their elite commanders and they’re kill teams against us .

The crazy part is, I’ve never seen so many named enemies altogether in several gameplay that I’ve encountered

A joke hyena name called ICE

[blazing citrus]

Can is the key word 🥲

[tiny oar]

the odds are way higher on leggo thats the important part, but yeah its a hell of a grind to get them all, some day 1 players still dont have them

[tender wave]

Both the 13% pfe mods I have dropped on heroic.
Tbf I've probably had more drop but I tend to deconstruct loot without checking these days

[tiny oar]

u can drop max stats on normal difficulty too but its much more rare

[hybrid ore]

It's a simplification of how the system works, but I understand why you would do that.

the tl;dr is basically "higher difficulty means your worst possible rolls are better than on lower difficulties", which yes, means that over all, your rolls will be better on Leggo than Chall, for example.

(and that's leaving out the whole "play on challenging as a minimal difficulty" thing).

[tropic sentinel]

Pfe is the only mod that needs you to go out of the way anyhow, and it's rather useless mod outside of something like faraday strat on morozova. And couple 12%s is enough.

[soft echo]

Man, if this referral thingy is not rewarding me tomorrow because we already did 2 hours and 3 missions, I don't know anymore.

I'm not seeing any progress on my end which is stuck.

[tropic sentinel]

Yeah it's a bit buggy. Keep in mind they've changed rewards too, as a player referring you get a bunch of trash now.

[soft echo]

the insurgent is alright

[tender wave]

Try raising a ticket with ubi support. It'll likely take a while but you might get some progress eventually

[soft echo]

How will I explain?

[tropic sentinel]

Just wait for that player to play more (you don't have to play together any more btw). For me it took roughly ~8 hours for time to eventually count.

[soft echo]

I have to worry also for them because if it doesn't work, I feel bad for them believing they will get those stuff.

if by hours, we spent more than that because they were helping with me on the houndsman bounty.

[tender wave]

Are neither of you new players then?

[jolly kettle]

While i play coundown i get more resourches then usual? To upgrade gear, weapons? And maybe gear i dont have proficency 10 on 🙂, exspertise level up...

[kind veldt]

didnt they change the rules to be either new players OR someone who hasnt played in X months?

i think it was 6 months

[tropic sentinel]

Their condition for invitee is "You must be invited by a Referrer and have not played The Division 2 before June 11, 2024." which makes 0 sense.

[tender wave]

It was like 6 months at the time but I don't know if that was a rolling date or fixed

[hybrid ore]

@rugged lance You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[jolly kettle]

I cant get tinker elsewhere only manhunt or?

[tender wave]

Only manager manhunt

[jolly kettle]

Its waird i played master but did not get mask even its guaranteed drop right?

[hybrid ore]

For your first run in Master mode on that character for that specific Manhunt: yes it's supposed to be a 100% drop.

[jolly kettle]

It was not my first run hehe so maybe 50 now?

[tender wave]

Oh, are you the one that said yesterday you did it at the start of the season when it was bugged and got a tempest instead?

[jolly kettle]

Yes i am but i got confused about tempest and tinker, i have tempest , but not tinker

[tender wave]

That was unlucky.
Yeah, should be about a 7% drop rate on heroic or 10% on master for reruns, for best chances find other players to help that might be able to share one if they get it

[jolly kettle]

Well, i wonder there are not many players, i had som difficulty to ask for backup on mission, bug ?

Backup works now lets see

[tender wave]

When you call for backup, only people with the same global event setting (golden bullet on or off) as you will see the call

Which reduces the number of people answering

[jolly kettle]

Ok

[unreal wadi]

What’s your opinion on the invasions? In my opinion it seems too fast/ aggressive for prolonged enjoyment if it were to slow down ever so slightly. Clear an area 30 seconds later there is 5 squads attacking outposts. I wish posts were a little more resilient at least if that is the case and if not I wish it was slower because with the current aggression it feel like it’s not a methodical counter but a swarm of random attacks and sieges hidden from your view. After I clear half/ the hole map and hit a trigger and the game U.N. does what I worked on for hours it feels very discouraging to even pursue it anymore. Is there no invasion based world tier for after you clear black tusk and invasions?

(I’ve went through the story it feels weird after all story events nothing changes)

[dull cypress]

wow a PTS news ping

[jagged prism]

OOOOOHHHH! nice!

[dull cypress]

Thanks ISAC

[jagged prism]

not understanding your rant here.
invasions? you mean the black tusk invasions? it changes every week on tuesday with 1 of 4 strongholds on invaded status

[spare cove]

Oh, the livestream is on Tuesday. Nvm

[jagged prism]

yeah, i had to check the date. was like on right now?! then saw the date was like oh. so PTS next friday

[unreal wadi]

I guess I’m talking about factions terf ward basically. The taking and holding of posts.

[jagged prism]

retaliations? i think it's fine as it is, the places you're losing is going on a 6 hour timer which you're probably not engaging in time and losing it

[unreal wadi]

Na not retal it’s the actual poi when I clear the full map it’s retaken in a hour it be cooler if they’d slowly creep back up and manifest in different sectors like they are regrouping

[tender wave]

If you're talking about the little enemy assault parties that go out and recapture your green CPs over time, that's something that's a bit weird and inconsistent between players. When this season started I took all control points without too much difficulty and since then I haven't seen a single one get attacked. But I've seen players like yourself report that they're constantly being retaken. Not certain what's causing the difference. Do you own/have you complete the WONY storyline?

[unreal wadi]

Na I don’t own warlords

Not yet at least

[tender wave]

I wonder if that's part of it then, iirc the old lvl 30 endgame that non Warlords owners were stuck in was a lot more active with both friendly and hostile attack parties going out.

[jagged prism]

it was wasn't it?

totally forgot about that

[unreal wadi]

I think that’s a
Weird turn off in the story for me other then story is so non linear you get lost your story missions do t change world to much other then first black tusk invasion and retake

[jagged prism]

good thing black friday is around the corner now

[thin oasis]

For me, division 2 reveals most of its lore in the radio chatter you hear, and the collectables, and otjer stuff, without burying you in cutscenes.

I think its amazing, but its hard to follow if you arent paying attention

[jagged prism]

or you have issues like me where these goes into like it's background with lowered audio setting compared to what you have focused. done this since my new speakers

so i gotta watch the subtitles screen and keep up

[unreal wadi]

No I mean the “story missions” they are so non linear you don’t find them and there’s no timeline event

[jagged prism]

story missions was just running them for the first time to unlock the higher difficulty missions, was pretty straight forward when we had world tiers, but since they got rid of that not sure how it looks. probably more confusing

also gotta remember div 2 story wise is months if not years after div 1. hence no more snow in the environment

[jolly kettle]

The best is to play coundown to get resourches right? To level up gear with armor, weapon damage...

[jagged prism]

with countdown you can at least get most gears/weapons through it via target loot and donate those to proficiency, then maybe getting them tags to spend in the vendor for the resource caches types. think there are 2 kinds?

think 20 gearsets/brandsets you can go from 0 to 10 proficient in it. weapons you can't exactly target those types aside AR/SMG/Shotgun/Etc so just praying you get 20 of those quickly. then there's the named and exotics to contend with as well

think running the solar farm control point nets you quite a bit of random resources

[jolly kettle]

I thought about the event, i get more resourches....when dismantle unecessary weapons, gear to level up proficency on wespons, gear?

Coundown is the best to get resourches quicker...

[jagged prism]

then you want mods, gear or skill mods
those are the most effiecient since they only take 30 per over the 100's for the other materials

you won't believe how fast 100's resoruces goes when you use them. maybe a couple times and you're going back out and farming those other resources again 😹 i pretty much used all resources, but i did the ole level up alt, spend watch points to fill up materials before they made it account bound

[jolly kettle]

Yes, but what can you tell me about event that is live?

[jagged prism]

no clue i haven't logged in to check, desciption says getting double resources from all sources, my opinion the translation isn't saying you use the resource to get double proficient xp instead. can't remember, but there was something described in game which was wrong and we had to correct them that this works this specific way. just don't recall what that was

think roguegold put a video on targeted loot between countdown and retaliations. think they were pretty close but countdown winning out because of the 8 player scaling

[jolly kettle]

Ok i think you get more resourches , dismantle green gear and high end... coundown

[jagged prism]

probably, but like i said i think mods are the way to go since you only use 30 per donation

[jolly kettle]

So mods gets me what, how much

[jagged prism]

since we have a cap of 9999. using 100s of materials for like 10 times and then having to go out and farming up more of that material to fill back up to 9999 just seems time consuming to me

[jolly kettle]

But it should go quicker due to event?

[jagged prism]

probably, i've been 30 for awhile and haven't really needed to upgrade weapons or skills so i've been maxed for awhile so things just drop to the ground and go poof

I don't bother with the gears because more armor on those don't mean I survive any longer than having 0 upgrades on them

[jolly kettle]

Ok but weapons...

?!

[jagged prism]

if like the build with the weapon choices i'll upgrade those, skills as well

but, that's just me. you can do the gears for the base armor increase if you like

[jolly kettle]

Nah maybe skill, weapons...:)

[jagged prism]

otherwise it gets expensive to upgrading everything to 30 😹

@thin oasis @sly tundra what is it 60 or 70 exotic components for 13-30?

ah, in #ask-td2-community there's a pin for it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/553520755103760385/1338679409456189491/image.png?ex=690f421a&is=690df09a&hm=2f0e317ae96a92c9843bbcba203e6c572958510858d30d44489cb0a182dc8e54

oh, not totally up to day. only to 27. so definitely 70 i'm thinking?

couldn't think of the names. Optimization and recalibration caches will help you immensely from countdown and global event

[sly tundra]

ask that in the right channel and I'll post a pic. 😛

[jagged prism]

is this like how many licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop question? 🤔

[thin oasis]

Always upgrade weapons and some skills

Avoid upgrading armour/some skills

[unreal wadi]

anyone know of any upcoming steam sells for this game? I need to make a mental reminder to remind the squad.

[unreal wadi]

Actually I think a good question I need to know is this. I watch a NGN video and I see missions and storylines I never see in game unfolding is it like a seasons locked type thing where more elements of the world are expanded on per season? Is that why its "years 7" and the cities starting to look last of us like?

[thin oasis]

Game goes on sale at least 5 or 6 times a year.

[thin oasis]

No missions or story are locked behind seasons.

Season simply add new modifiers, new gameplay types, weapons, balancing and other such things.

Any lore locked behind a season is contained within the seasonal manhunt, all of which is fully replayable.

[unreal wadi]

Now I’m curious where to find these

[thin oasis]

Open map, go to manhunt, go to legacy manhunts, complete them and you'll get ALL of the current available lore.

[jagged prism]

black friday is coming up btw

[jolly kettle]

What lmg was the highest rpm? Negev, m249?

[lunar hare]

both

[jolly kettle]

Ok same;)

[unreal wadi]

is that the lowest discount day?

[unreal wadi]

OHHH wait so the manhunts are the premade objectives you gotta do in order?

[valid sable]

help me with a question Dorky, I thought i had done all of the available legacy manhunts (have them all greyed out in the map). Last night, in a random matchmake, I entered a manhunt that I previously never seen before, the reward at the end was a neon cube with a butterfly inside and it had a cutscene with Theo, Kelso and Keener sitting in a van

the question is... why? i thought i had done them all (they are greyed out)

[thin oasis]

Camp White Oak

[small spear]

so pro

[thin oasis]

I believe it's the Theo Parnell Manhunt

[small spear]

this is the Stranded Tanker Kelso Manhunt (Kelso's 1st manhunt)

[wanton salmon]

I have never seen that cutscene

[small spear]

it's the only manhunt taking place in NY map

[thin oasis]

Manhunts take place throughout the season, they have lots of random crud and then each will have some priority objectives that you must complete in order to finish the manhunt.

Once the season ends any relevant info is condensed down to the Legacy Manhunt, any collectables are placed somewhere in the finale and that's the only mission you play.

[valid sable]

wait "any collectables are placed somewhere in the finale", like, hidden inside loot crates?

[unreal wadi]

So it’s a Sudo battle pass but not really

[jagged prism]

usually. basically buy a bunch of things probably nearly 50%+ off normal price kind of deal

[kind veldt]

reward from named enemies, mostly the comms for you to listen later

[thin oasis]

What bird shot says. You can't miss lore in this game as it doesn't really exist in cutscenes. ut it's placed inside the missions and you have to place it into the timeline yourself. It's an honestly genius story telling technique,

[kind veldt]

i mean there are a couple of after manhunt cutscenes that i dont remember if they play everytime you do the manhunt or not

like van to brooklyn or the kelso with the doctor

[hybrid cloak]

Anyone doing houndsman bounty?

[kind veldt]

go to id:customize and select a game and plataform to see the LFG channels

[proud locust]

I hate sokolova so much

Sure we destroy her precious brand but didn’t expect she was gonna unleash a massive proxy war

[distant otter]

can you still get the lefty shotgun?

[lunar hare]

always

[distant otter]

okie thanks

is it a hard drop to get

[lunar hare]

not that much, just TL Shotguns and/or open Named Item caches

[undone trail]

I just received Sydney mask and backpack trophy, did the devs award them to everyone now?

[kind veldt]

the game did say something similar to me with weapon skins from payday earlier this week

huh yeap i also got it somehow

#lfg-xbox

[obtuse flicker]

Are there a lot of d2 players playing arc raiders ? Never had such a hard time matchmaking . Thoughts?

[unique summit]

What are you matchmaking for?

[kind veldt]

i mean thats a PVP game, i dont think BF6 made a big dent here or anything

[unique summit]

Golden bullet kinda splits the playerbase too.

[kind veldt]

yeah probably the global event more likely

[obtuse flicker]

I usually matchmake for lgnd missions which is always harder but lately I cant get a single match which has never happened before.

Oh so u saying if I dont have event activated I wont Match with those who have it activated ?

[kind veldt]

y

[soft echo]

The referred friend? Yes. I even invited through the friend list invitation which him being legible.

[hardy rover]

im ngl im not enjoying this dlc at all

[kind veldt]

which one?

[keen kayak]

I still have not even unlocked the full Brooklyn map. I did all the missions but never went back and unlocked the entirety of it.

[solid hawk]

Where else can I look for a clan? Any other servers besides the one on here

[hybrid ore]

@solid hawk #td2-clan-recruitment Is the only place.

[solid hawk]

Everyone wants me to run a trial for raids like I don’t really want to do that lol

[hybrid ore]

I'd avoid any clan that has requirements beyond "play a bit".

You can try the community server too, I'll send you the link.

[hardy rover]

the turret spam one (brooklyn)

[winter summit]

Yeah they can be a little much at times

[hardy rover]

i found that certain ones on certain missions will not target you if you do not step into the mission area if the enemies spawn before getting inside it

[gaunt aurora]

Does anyone know how to fix the material overflow glitch that grays out your materials?

[jagged prism]

oohhhh, discussing glitches? ooooohhhh

[hybrid ore]

@golden spade You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[ionic flax]

hey. been in and out of the game. wheres can i find the event loot at?

[jagged prism]

what event loot you're looking for?

[ionic flax]

the halloween stuff

double xp or something? i'm trying to get on that real quick for the weekend. what do i do?

[tender quartz]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/69rKL2iEthBR7QTlKTjlKv/halloween-event-2025

[jagged prism]

#patch-notes message

[ionic flax]

sooo... same bounty chase?

[jagged prism]

current event is getting double Materials from all sources. watch scavenging points included

yeah, mini warhounds to get bat drone vfx and houndsman mask, quickstep named pistol

[tender quartz]

the project chain is just kill named guys of various factions
the minihounds thing is kill the little minihounds, and if they drop a houndsman bounty you can do that too

[jagged prism]

you probably won't finish the sinister outfit as it might end the 11th i believe?

[ionic flax]

super thanks, i have the outfit already. looking for the rest of the goods.

[tender quartz]

there's just the houndsman mask and bat left if you did the whole project chain

[jagged prism]

the houndsman you have to pay for premium credits and buy it in the store

[ionic flax]

yes, i have those. and the outfit. i'm asking about the other stuff. where to find it.

[tender quartz]

there's no other stuff

[jagged prism]

grand washington hotel there's a path you follow and to the right you'll see some halloween decorations. inside there a cache you open for a patch and backpack trophy

[ionic flax]

oooo i know that place where. were right?

[jagged prism]

fast travel to GWH, go through as if you're going to start the mission you'll see some halloween decorations to the right in a hall way

[ionic flax]

bet.

maybe i said something wrong or i didn't understand. how to do i chase the sinister thing?

[jagged prism]

7 day project. been killing 4 named enemies of a specific faction

[iron adder]

Sinister shade is a suit (cosmetics). You get it by doing the Halloween project chain.

[ionic flax]

is there a location for that project chain?

[iron adder]

open map then check the project tab

[jagged prism]

map, projects tab, close to the bottom

[ionic flax]

awesome. found it. thanks. you people are awesome.

[iron adder]

it's time-gated so you have until next tuesday to finish it

[ionic flax]

good to know

[jagged prism]

so i'm not wrong? i saw it says week 2 and 3 in the article so i thought maybe they have time still

[iron adder]

Halloween is a 3-week event. We are in the 3rd week. Sinister shade can be earned in the 2nd and 3rd weeks.

[jagged prism]

ah, haven't been playing much since i finished the houndsman and sinister outfits so yeah, lost track of time

[distant otter]

for tac assessment gear per Faction is the best method bounties (for optimising gear)

[kind veldt]

you can also craft it if you have the blueprints, think the bp just drops from control points

[distant otter]

oh i did not know this thank you

[remote lynx]

Hello 👋, retuning agent here, please tell me there is a way to get Quickstep

It's November 8th guess I missed it right?

[full zinc]

yes, look for the mini warhounds to generate a houndsman bounty, or matchmake into bounty and itll likely still mostly be people doing houndsman. think of the mini warhounds as the current loot goblin

quickstep is a common drop there along with dz exclusives

and all seasonal. no turmoil or lexington tho

[eternal bluff]

is the servers down right now ?

[lunar hare]

no

[eternal bluff]

my game said server restart in 30 minutes then i got kicked wierd ?

[lunar hare]

but you can log back in

[eternal bluff]

i just did was it just a server restart for all the servers or a random server ?

[lunar hare]

it moves you from one server to another

if you see "Servers closing for maintenance in XX:XX:XX" then there is a scheduled maintenance, if it just says "Servers restarting in XX:XX:XX" then there's nothing to worry about

there's a difference that people have to learn to identify

[eternal bluff]

oh thank you !

[lunar hare]

no worries

[finite osprey]

can anybody know how to remove Hard to earn Directive bug please?

[tacit viper]

I am unable to complete missing wire scavengers for years now, just got back into playing it and the mission is still broken. what is happening?

[thin oasis]

Usually moving to another map will fix it.

Alternatively, go to the summit disable all directives and complete a floor, then leave.

[harsh marsh]

Is anyone else's Halloween event stuck on day 7?

[valid hornet]

it continues to loop until the 11th i believe

[hardy rover]

Yeah if you finished it but accidentally scrapped ur Quickstep and want it back thats basically how youll get it back, thats probably why its looping

[thin oasis]

Doubt it.

Quicksteps were dropping like candy throughout the event.

Literally had hundreds of them

[hardy rover]

I mean why else would it loop specifically just to drop quickstep unless its a bug

[thin oasis]

Because they always tend to repeat until the event is removed.

The content creator event did the same

[grave timber]

Reset game or log out and log back in, travel to New York pick your poison

[stoic holly]

what is the max level of the workshop stations? ?

[fluid meadow]

High-end

[hybrid stump]

I didn't know you could get high end weapons/gear before level 29-30.

[jagged prism]

30 used to be the max level before Warlords of New York released

[signal fractal]

Is it true it takes like 72 exotic components to get to expertise 30

[jagged prism]

a sheet in t2d-community shows 64ish to 27, so i'd imagine it's something like 70 or mid 70's and that's per item. you get a similar weapon/brandset/gearset it won't have those updates on it so you'd have to spend exotic components to get it upgraded to 30 as well

[signal fractal]

Sheesh that’s wild lol. I know it’s mid maxing but that’s a crazy amount

[jagged prism]

nods why i don't upgrade everything unless i know i love that build

[signal fractal]

I guess now is the perfect time with the double amount for everything to try and get up to that amount

[jagged prism]

pretty much, especially with duplicate exotic components i'd say

spam them priority that rewards exotics

[signal fractal]

I’ve just been using the countdown money for exotic cache. Have enough after 1-2 runs of heroic

[jagged prism]

nods that works too

[jolly kettle]

I have more then 72 exotic components but how do i use it to get exspertise 30? I am proficent on those i use daily so i need to find other exotic weapons - upgrade proficency...level 10

To upgrade exspertise level...

[kind veldt]

you get more expertise by becoming proficient with multiple weapons and items

you level up items based on your expertise level using exotic materials depending on the level

proficiency with a lot of items -> expertise gets higher -> can level up items

[jolly kettle]

Yeah i figured , its just that i dont need other weapons, gear to upgrade exspertise level. I have leveled up all type of gear and weapons i use, and got to exspertise level 8. I have exspertise level 8 weapon damage on weapons, but not necesarry to use it on gearsets to ugrade armor i was told. I think i can try skill upgrade but. Not important for gameplay cause exspertise level does not make your survival chances better like more armor, such, it has to do the way you play the game on usual term from start without exspertise system, there are some better players and people who need support :). I sometimes need support, sometimes i help others

[sturdy stone]

Currently starting the division 1 already did everything on the division 2

[tropic sentinel]

You don't need to use gear to level up proficiency. Just donate materials or excess trash gear you get from drops. +30% weapon damage is quite substantial, i.e. you can replace 1-2 cores to blue and still do "same" damage as full red non levelled up build. Or just generally have more damage.

[kind veldt]

#lfg-pc

[wintry edge]

Hola, alguien de España que quiera hacer tiempos en las raids?

[unique bramble]

English only server amigo

[wintry edge]

Sorry

[kind veldt]

#lfg-raid-console

you can speak spanish in the matchmaking channels, just not in the discussion ones to keep everyone in the same page

[shell laurel]

Does exotic rate increase if countdown is on heroic or is normal the same? trying to farm for bluescreen

[kind veldt]

would just say to do it on challenging, good quality and there are so many people playing on challenging that the matchmaking is almsot instant

[somber flicker]

I changed to all directive active,including "pistolero" then i deactivated all of them but "pistolero" is still active despite the fact there is no active directive....in open world not in sumit or elsewhere.....does anyone know how to fix this ?thank you in advance

i also logout and login...same happend

Fixed....i had to exit game,close the client then restart the game.........Thanks to INCOMPETENTS DEVS who dont know how to fix this for months

[blazing citrus]

developing isnt as simple as typing "fix" into the code and expecting it works

they have to figure out whats going wrong, how its going wrong, identify where in the code its going wrong, change someting, test it and repeat if that doesnt fix it

(thats my best guess of coding but im not a game dev so i cant say thats concretely the process of things)

[somber flicker]

From week 1,since i play this game,starting with Div1,i noticed that if is something in player's beneficial they ( devs) mobilize and know very fast to fix the glitch/bug...but when is something wich make players to lose time,get frustrated cause something work not as intented,NO,is hard,is a herculian work,cant doit.....they care more for vanity items and sh....t like this not for players happiness,to implement more raids,more missions with real and beneficial rewards,like exotic components,exotic items....otherwise it need a lot of ex components to raise the level of an item but from where?from a 45 min legendary?and get one a week ?come on.....is like they work AGAINST players not for us

[jagged prism]

you going to apply and teach them how to code? they're looking for someone for pvp stuff atm

[lunar hare]

Exotic components come from exotic items, which can be FARMED from Priority Objectives, Countdown, Summit, Exotic Caches, casual content. Not just from weekly projects nor legendary missions.

[jagged prism]

forgot Retaliations with targeted loot from there, but won't be any better/faster than countdown

[somber flicker]

@jagged prism sorry sir,i dont know how to code,what i wrote above was from a unhappy player who care and love this game...it wasnt for codind

[lunar hare]

I forgot about Retaliations but yeah there's TO MANY ways to get exotic components

[hybrid ore]

Before this goes where I know it's going to, let's just step away for a second.

[somber flicker]

@jagged prism if i start the game in these days,indeed,for 6 months i will enjoy every day but what about veterans players who has everithing,from gear to weapons and are bored cause there are no challenging content with good rewards....believe me,i only play Descent cause i can get points to buy ex caches....

[jagged prism]

i just believe the devs aren't incompetent, it's probably the people above them in control of their pay check telling them our wallets are feeling thin, make more cosmetics, devs just have to follow their orders

[somber flicker]

@jagged prism..well,yes,you might have right...leaders of them can be blamed...i dunno,it might be true

[unique summit]

Don't forget that the game was going to die out and a few devs took it upon themselves to save it. That showed Ubisoft how much promise the franchise still has and now they are building Division 3.

For a 6 year old game the amount of content and updates we've gotten is pretty darn good.

[jagged prism]

don't forget Resurgence and Survivors

[unique summit]

I choose to forget Resurgence 😛

[lunar hare]

they chose to kill Heartland 😔

[jagged prism]

makes me wonder why they decide that when from what i've read here and other server was highly wanted

[unique summit]

Honestly I'm kinda glad. The gameplay I saw from streams and such was very underwhelming.

[lunar hare]

it was?

[fluid meadow]

i don't notice them salvaging any assests from the scrapped project though which is kinda a waste

[jagged prism]

🤔 maybe we'll have to tell people not to hype of div 3 or fear of it getting canceled

[unique summit]

The animations were so bad. And the whole map being basically a DZ was whack.

[fluid meadow]

it was the arc raiders that was never meant to flourish

[unique summit]

Yea we'll see about Arc Raiders. It's popular now but wait until the meta emerges.

[jagged prism]

swore there were people who were going on about can't wait for heartland

[unique summit]

It had some cool ideas. The setting was very interesting.

Also IIRC it was a different studio working on it. Red Storm or something?

I still think Massive is the goat for building big beautiful worlds.

[jagged prism]

ahhhhh, yeah i wasn't interested in it anyways so i didn't see who made it or what not

[unique summit]

My biggest worry for D3 is that Ubisoft will follow the hype and build some kind of battle-royale/extraction-shooter hybrid. Studios keep doing this and I just don't understand why. They'll be sitting on a unique gold mine IP and branch out into some generic trend.

Like they'll see Arc Raiders launch success and start copy pasting.

[fluid meadow]

battle royale division sounds so horribly wrong

[lunar hare]

if Div3 comes out like a hybrid as you say, the guy mining through diamonds and stopping when he finds dirt is going to represent a lot of players

[fluid meadow]

especially if d3 would still have corner peeking possible cause it's simply a pvp ruiner

[kind veldt]

i dont think the game build crafing is compatible with good PVP

too many numbers left to be exploited by some build that just results in one thing ot rule them all and them immediatly jump to the next

[unique summit]

Duuuuude yes. I've been saying it for YEARS. If they want good PvP in D3 they need to set it up so that everyone starts on equal ground.

[fluid meadow]

what do we mean when we say equal ground
builds are meant to be different and the diversity in builds is real important imo cause in pvp you're the sum of your build and your skill

of course that shouldn't mean stuff would be fundamentally different they all should be normalised which d2 tried to do with talents but miserably failed when they straight up removed watch in conflict

[unique summit]

Ok what I mean is a few things:

1. Everyone has access to the same gear and skills without a big grind to get it.
2. No expertise or any kind of advantage based purely on time spent in the game.
3. People can change loadouts to copy someone elses very quickly, if they want.

I think what keeps a lot of people out of PvP is they are gated out by having to farm for gear including exotics. Then when they finally have a decent build they still lose to optimization, expertise, or if the opponent has a counter-build that they don't have a counter for. Dedicated PvPers will grind out mats and builds but most people will just dip out.

This makes sense for some games where the PvP mechanics are really bad or really simple. But Division PvP is a lot of fun on its own. Like I think it can be an esport easily.

People glaze D1 PvP like it was any better and it wasn't. It was the same. Except you had chicken dancing too

[dense mica]

Division 1 is the Greatest of all Time

[fluid meadow]

you lose me on 3 cause i personally advocate for being able to simply hide your loadout so you don't no brain every encounter by simply equipping the counter and calling it a day
and you can't really disregard farming even in pvp modes i mean pretty much every pvp game rn has a levelling system which can correlate to farming in div minus the RNG part

[unique summit]

Yea I should probably remove #3, it's not that important. If everyone has access to the same gear then hiding loadouts would actually make sense. That way build expression can still be a thing.

[unique summit]

That's not entirely true about other games. Take any competitive shooter or team tactical games like Squad. Games like Tarkov have it and it's something turns off a lot of people. It's not fun to fight against someone who no lifes the game and has 10x better stats than you.

I was looking at the Arc Raiders skill tree and it seems deliberately made to give minor buffs (so no like +damage buffs far as I saw). But still I think people will complain about it when the community maxes out the skill tree and starts deleting anyone who hasn't.

The thing about PvP is if people think they stand no chance they will just leave.

[fluid meadow]

I mean either way you have to reward the player for putting hours in your game
I understand the same ground stuff but I don't think div is meant to be something like cod or battlefield when you have fixed health and whatever

[inner willow]

You do realize that #2 conflicts with #1. Grinding for gear takes time. Those who have spent the time to grind have an advantage over those who don't.

[unique summit]

No I'm saying there should be no grind at all.

That if someone wants to into a PvP mode (DZ, Conflict, whatever) it should be skill based only. Creating a build is skill based still. Grinding for gear and materials is not skill based.

[inner willow]

Ahh so everyone has the exact same options from the moment they start the game until the moment they quit.

[unique summit]

ONLY in PvP. But yes. Exactly that.

So you can focus on the actual PvP part and not the "oh crap I need to go farm for X" part.

[fluid meadow]

At that point it really sounds like a sandbox mode which lowers entry point but defeats any kind of purpose for continuing to play the mode

[unique summit]

The purpose is the PvP...

Tactics, mechanical skill, etc. Clutching a win at the last second in a 1v3. Stuff like that.

[fluid meadow]

Farming is still an integral part of a looter shooter even in the pvp department imo otherwise you won't have dz

[fluid meadow]

I know but this is like asking for the high of completing a raid for example without having to deal with the 4 bosses

[unique summit]

It's been an integral part of Division PvP, yes. I'm just arguing that it shouldn't be. Otherwise PvP will always be a tiny niche group of people who enjoy it enough to farm for the current broken meta.

[kind veldt]

which is where we stand

game has so many stats and rolls in gear that means that some combination will be drasticly overpowered, i'm not saying people will ever stop chasing the meta more that gap between strongest and the rest tends to be big

unless you drasticly normalize it and contain the variables, there will be large gaps to be exploited

but if you normalize it and reduce the variables it will feel like a drasticly different game

which is why i think they were doing heartlands in the first place

[jagged prism]

if you balance too much, people leave for other games

[kind veldt]

you either completely break the spine of the PVE to fix PVP or you break PVP to fix PVE with our system

[fluid meadow]

i don't think they'll ever be mutually exclusive

[jagged prism]

it's why i was excited to hear they're looking or someone to lead the pvp aspect of the game in the future

[inner willow]

And that conundrum is not just a Division or Ubisoft problem. It is anywhere those two styles of play meet.

[kind veldt]

and a lot of times what one side wants is not the same as the other

PVE armor cores are largely ignored

PVP one of the main metas is mostly blue regen bighorn

[inner willow]

At the end of the day I enjoy td2 and the PvE side of the house it has created. Most everything I wanted I found on the PvE side and if it requires me to slip into the PvP side...I just forget about it like it doesn't exsist.

[fluid meadow]

NUKE

[inner willow]

I still have a multitude of builds I enjoy because the variety of stats and gear you mentioned before is wide enough for me to do different things.

I am still new enough in this game that the changes mentioned earlier for one side or the other haven't really been soulcrushing to any degree.

[unique summit]

Yep. This has been a discussion point since the very early days of D1. One camp says PvE and PvP simply can't mix. Another camp says they can make it work. Another camp just wants open chaos where anything goes. All valid points of view IMO but one of them will result in the most active/thriving community over others.

[inner willow]

I have seen that conundrum throughout many games. I just feel that td2 did a pretty good job of finding a middle ground of sorts to catch a breather until they could plan for better.

But I may also be biased to some degree.

How bad is the PvP side of the house at the moment?

[jagged prism]

hasn't seen any love for years, from what i've seen in youtube or here in messages seems to be pretty rampant with hackers/cheaters in all platforms. consoles probably more chronus users than anything

[unique summit]

When it's fair (no cheaters) and no one is cheesing it's amazing. But good luck finding that outside of premade groups.

[fluid meadow]

some weapons are insanely overtuned (bighorn, regulus, nemesis mostly) corner peeking + left hand peeking makes you able to shoot people that simply are not able to shoot you back. many other exploits and this isn't even about the rampant cheating from some players with 5k hours btw
laggers are a huge huge issue resulting in auto acs with nemesis bullets and full squad wipes even if you kill them

[jagged prism]

one season i kept seeing a youtube account that'd have a title "undetected DIv 2 hack" they didn't pvp i don't think but ran things like incursion and missions

[inner willow]

So aside from the hackers/cheaters bugs/exploits the core PvP is much like the PvE....Amazing correct?

[fluid meadow]

in its own regard people are kinda peeved by the movement

[unique summit]

I mean I like it a lot. The build expression is really freakin good.

[jagged prism]

probably get flocks of people when there's a DZ XP event

[inner willow]

I just feel like the one thing all camps have in common is that they want more locations more maps more beautifully crafted environments and gear. As well as more bug fixes lol

[jagged prism]

i'm honestly worried of them running out of named items, talents and especially exotics to make

i'd welcome a nerf gunesque named weapon complete with a new kind of ammo that'll shoot tranquilizers that when we hit party members it gives them temp or bonus armor or even just repair their armor. keep them healers busy you know?
shoot their chem launcher, then lay into them with the new weapon keeping people healed up

then we'd have a reason to beam their heads (> <)

[fluid meadow]

cooler gives hazpro up to 50% if you shoot it at a teammate if that counts
i used to do funny things with it where i would squirt at my 60% haz friend and make him push the status guy to waste their sticky

[alpine canyon]

I’m curious — for those who play solo PvE, does the 50% threat reduction actually make a noticeable difference, or does it just feel like a placebo effect?
Have you noticed any real impact from the 50% threat reduction when playing solo?

[jagged prism]

maybe if you use the decoy too, might work, but if you go the 2 pieces of that brandset probably doesn't do much

[thin oasis]

The issue is, nobody really knows how threat works.

And reducing your threat when you're the only player there....you're the only one they CAN target.

[alpine canyon]

that's true

I was thinking that way I don't think this stat works for solo

[jagged prism]

@thin oasis i forget, is that reduced threat within imminence? or another brand?

consulted the sheet. definitely imminence, which 2 pieces increases your "threat"

[kind veldt]

kneepads called cloack?

or was it holster?

[jagged prism]

kneepads

i was thinking they could've been with that urban brandset

[thin oasis]

WHat seems to be the case, is that enemies will target the player dealing the most damage. This is why DPS glass cannons get smashed from all sides and "tanks" are largely ignored by the enemy.

Reducing threat should in theory mean that enemies won't aggro you personally as fast, or for as long.

[jagged prism]

pretty much. pretty sure if someone wore 2 pc imminence and PGC or GC and another person just used PGC would end up with more aggro than you as the 2 pc imminence user

[thin oasis]

However, by virtue of using a piece that deals less damage anyway, you're already less of a threat...so it's really not worth anything

[harsh marsh]

Is memento just a random drop or does it have specific mission drop

[tender wave]

Random drop

[grave timber]

However with retaliation you can see which faction has the blueprint and you can farm it to get it and you can get the materials there too

[hollow hill]

Here, Pal,

Do me a big favor? I'm gonna drench you in my liquid and you're gonna take a cork at warp speed, right to the face. And you're gonna kill that guy. You know why? My liquid makes you immune. Right? Got it?

Go get em, Tiger

[sly tundra]

I look into this channel for once and see this post?

I'm assuming you're trying to LFG. #lfg-pc
There's a whole section of channels for that.

[warped island]

its cool thanks

[alpine canyon]

In regards to # of loot are there any diff HEROIC and CHALLENGING on countdown ?

[full zinc]

not really. challenging probably offers best loot/time invested

[carmine oriole]

Division 2 standard edition used to boost level to 30 before brooklyn came or gold edition?

[lunar hare]

Year 1 Pass grants the lvl30 boost, which came with the Gold Edition IIRC

[carmine oriole]

I had the gold edition, but currently I noticed Brooklyn is also included in gold edition, so it's my loss cause I bought the game before the DLC or I'll get discount if I've to buy it? Or the DLC is already in my account?

[lunar hare]

idk if you get a discount for just the dlc when you try to go to the gold edition, but the dlc gets discounts pretty often either way

[carmine oriole]

So I won't get the DLC free, if I've Gold Edition right?

[lunar hare]

nope, don't think so

[carmine oriole]

Ah, Thanks, Your message and google search result came at the same time. Thanks for the reply. have to wait for the sale.

[lunar hare]

it comes out cheap pretty often, it won't take long

[carmine oriole]

Yeah, Winter Sale coming, have to Gift 2 division 2 for friends, division 1 underground for a friend. It's gonna be fun to play with friends. all this 300Hours alone gameplay was boring.

[grave timber]

Yup and with a average build should be very easy

[soft echo]

So here's an update about the friend referral issue I have:

I haven't contacted ubisoft support yet but my buddy updated me that the progress on him is 100% but the rewards are still locked

meanwhile on my progress, it is still stuck lol

[coral rock]

When will the Marauder Drones hitboxes be fixed?

All of the legendary Roosevelt Island, the Pentagon and the open world variants' hitboxes are way much smaller than their texture model.
Its a half a year or so story.

(Where to report this? Did they already know about it?)

[sly tundra]

Official Ubisoft discord

[grave timber]

Yeah I hate that but luckily thanks to their large health I can kill multiple enemies using turmoil

[formal mortar]

Dumb question sorry, I have about 120 points to spend from the golden bullet event, my expertise is at 20, what would be the best thing to spend it on at this point to help with the expertise event?

[full zinc]

exo caches. need them components for upgrades

[formal mortar]

I've got loads of exotic components

[full zinc]

youll need a lot to hit expertise 30 upgrades

exo are what i go with, named caches would be good if you want to farm some of the dz exclusives

[small spear]

you need 90 components to get to 30 expertise, now multiply that by the number of every weapon you will use + the best skills you will use and you'll realize you don't have many at all

[grave timber]

Jeez that explains why I was about 600 it 500 after reaching the cap for the exotic components

[formal mortar]

Yeah but I only use a very narrow set of gear so I don't have to raise everything to 30 (well currently my limit is mid 19 anyway), my Q is more how to focus on raising that 19 to 30 with caches etc.

[iron adder]

Just get whatever resources you are lacking

[grave timber]

Less then 48 hours till the manhunt mission comes out

[ornate reef]

Anyone know how long the pumpkin seeker mine will be in store?

[grave timber]

Unknown bet just in case buy it as soon as possible if you want

[ornate reef]

Already bought the clown outfit

@grave timber

[wise coral]

where do i get my link for #td2-friend-referral ?

[grave timber]

👍

[grave timber]

Maybe check Ubisoft site or division site

Oooooooh I just hope I can push it on Tuesday staying up until 11am cause I'm pretty sure the stream will end around that time

[strong mauve]

is retaliation worth grinding

[formal mortar]

It's good for the blueprints if you don't have them.

You can also choose the targeted loot which helps get things you're missing.

[grave timber]

This but for some reason people still need help getting these

[grave timber]

It took me 7 to 8 weeks just to get all Blueprints from the mode

[formal mortar]

I think I'm stuck at 5/6 Exotic blueprints for some reason

[strong mauve]

me nether

retaliation on heroic is just too heavy for me tho

choked by these kill teams

[thin oasis]

Nego deals with kill squads quiickly

[native nacelle]

Why would I be stuck in the game in 2? I keep reading about invasions and nothing has happened. Game keeps telling me all about Black Tusk but I can't get tot hat part of the game?

[strong mauve]

gotcha, will try to build one

[grave timber]

Probably iron horse blueprints or others ones

[grave timber]

Uhhhhhh what

[native nacelle]

White Oak is still locked for me, etc. I got to the point in the game I'm at and it hasn't shown me anything new I can do besides side stuff for days now.

[grave timber]

Hmmmmmmm you probably need to buy dlc for that mission

[thin oasis]

Nope.

[thin oasis]

move to #ask-td2-community and post screenshots of your map, and priority objectives screens

[azure apex]

Too unlock all optimization blueprints its the same as any other blueprints right? Control points, Retaliation and projects? or am i missing something