td2-general-chat

[wraith locust]

And I’m on heroic

[thick yarrow]

well time to turn summit floor 100 down to normal

since im not dying to hunters constantly without raging

[tiny oar]

hunters are fine on heroic if your team is not braindead and can actually do anything

alone its not really fun tho

[nocturne bone]

👀

[keen kayak]

Is there mre than 1 blueprint vendor? google says there is 3 but I can't find where

Do I need to have all the map green to get them?

[covert horizon]

random drop

i.kill squads 6 time and only got 1 bp from completing relali

[keen kayak]

The vendors are random drop for BPs?

[covert horizon]

yeah in decent can be drop if you have currency and can purchase in dc if you complete relaliation

[keen kayak]

So where are the other 2 BP vendors then?

[kind veldt]

the only blueprints you can buy are from inaya at white house for exotics you have so you can reroll

most of them are drops from certain places

most are from control points, some are from sidemissions, descent and so on

[keen kayak]

ok so google is lying then about the campus and the theatre having BP vendors?

[kind veldt]

was it their google AI?

[keen kayak]

yeah

[kind veldt]

then it just made stuff up

can always ask in #ask-td2-community about specifics

[keen kayak]

Wasn't sure because it has been almost 2 years since I played and Division has a few BP vendors

So I figured maybe they added more here as well

Smart Cover here as good as it was in The Division back when it was good? I've been crafting mods trying to max it out all night

4k electronics later and 4% damage to target out of cover and 6.7% radius is the best I could craft

[kind veldt]

the offensive one is very good since it gives a decent damage bonus, the other one hasnt been used much

[keen kayak]

I feel like the crafting here is far more punishing than in the 1st installment when it comes to mods.

That and the fact that I have never even gotten a smart cover drop yet and I have crushed hundreds of mods in the last few days

And I am not sure but I get the message,"Journey rewards available. Claim them in the menu!" and I have no idea about where this menu is or what rewards they are,

[smoky moth]

The Pact (Season Pass) check there

[kind veldt]

seasonal menu

when you open the menu it's right of the inventory

if you found season pass it's another tab there

[limpid pond]

ummmmmm, my brooklyn map is all messed up

SHD Crates are still available, but everything is green, from being completed

this is sooooo messed up

[deep narwhal]

Are the servers down?

[keen kayak]

Oh man I have so many rewards lol I think I did almost everything without even knowing what to do

all mods unlocked and so many more mats

[limpid pond]

im tryhing to figure out happened to my brooklyn map

[keen kayak]

If I use Advanced Materiel at skill tier 6 do I get constant Overcharge?

[sour void]

No. Only signature skills get constant Overcharge for the duration.

[umbral dock]

that’s nice for mortars i guess

not much else

maybe artificer

anyone tried tip of the spear advanced materiel yet

[blazing citrus]

inaya can drop non exotic blueprints but its random and weekly

semi recently i bought a... muzzle iirc... from her

[hybrid ore]

It's neither random nor weekly.

[blazing citrus]

[hybrid ore]

There's a total pool that exists of those blueprints, you can see in your Crafting Table where they drop from.

[blazing citrus]

either way just farm control points for them

[hybrid ore]

most are from CP's at Lvl 3/4.

some are from Side Missions, which are skipped if you use the boost.

IIRC a few are/now from Projects as a result of the skips being in place.

[untold hull]

i saw a video where someone pulled up the targeted loot screen and was able to pick a particular set to farm for, but i can't figure out how to find that. i can go to the map and scroll around to look at everything manually

[fluid meadow]

Summit or countdown or general anderson manhunt have the ability to toggle targeted loot to whatever you want

[untold hull]

ah yea, that's what i was seeing

[pliant sentinel]

first time i saw this, what does it mean kill squad evaded

[spare cove]

It means you escaped their wrath

[pliant sentinel]

man they should be scared of me

[thin oasis]

It means you ran away 😏

[pliant sentinel]

wait really

[remote pecan]

can happen accidentally if they spawn underground and you're just running to the CP

[pliant sentinel]

oh

i was just running cover to cover maybe i got too far\

[thin oasis]

It could mean alot of things. Generally just means you got too far away but that could happen for alot of reasons. They're underground, they got spawn locked, etc

[pliant sentinel]

ah i see i see

[blazing citrus]

"well done agent you evaded a kill squad"
"i didnt even know they existed"

[dusty iron]

they evaded us tbh

[hybrid ore]

Outside of them spawning down an alley and it taking me more time to reach them than I'd gain from actually killing them, I'm really enjoying these Retal's so far.
If nothing else, they're a comically fast way to finish the Journey Missions.

[dusty iron]

Oh they are? i been doing countdown and getting no progress

[jagged prism]

i find them fun to do to boot

[pliant sentinel]

im your strongest soldier God pls spawn in 10 hunters i can kill em

[stoic scaffold]

guys i finished main campaign and am lvl 32 on division 2, i want to farm few exotics, i have done most of the base content, in terms of capturing control points, doing main missions and side missions, i want to get into DZ and farming exotics, i heard there is soemthing called raids and u can farm eagle bearer, how do i do that? i need help please.

[tiny oar]

u need to go to lvl 40 before doing raids/farming exotics otherwise they will be useless

[frozen relic]

you cant until level 40 just wait until youre lvl 40 and have a decent build before doing the raids

[tiny oar]

try going to new york and do the campaing there

[stoic scaffold]

Oh i haven't bought the DLC's yet, I wish to doe

[stoic scaffold]

useless? wdym and So should I just get into DZ for now? and i have a main mission showing camp white oak and its outside the map, is it dlc or base game mission?

[frozen relic]

its base game

[tiny oar]

its a side mission, there are a few, you can do them, but if you dont buy dlc u gonna msis a part of story

[frozen relic]

only warlords of new york and battle for brooklyn are expansions

[stoic scaffold]

Yeah I really want to buy the DLC, and, how do I reach that camp white oak mission?

[frozen relic]

and also just cant get very powerful skills imo

[stoic scaffold]

the game is glitching with the route, it shows me white house underground and then does a u-turn

[tiny oar]

you can just tp there normally, or go to pilot in white house

[frozen relic]

should be able to fast travel to it

[stoic scaffold]

it shows only to new york and the other location

[tiny oar]

just fast travel there

[stoic scaffold]

nope can't fast travel

[tiny oar]

then u need to unlock them it seem

[tender wave]

Different pilot, the one on the helipad in the courtyard next to the white house (face front entrance and turn right)

[frozen relic]

go to the public area where other people and theres a helipad there go up there and there should be a pilot i believe u might be at the new york pilot

[stoic scaffold]

oh one sec

I heard the dlcs have way better weapons and other gear compared to base

[tiny oar]

its different, u can farm them too once u get lvl 40

[frozen relic]

they changed that you can get the same exact gear now

[jagged prism]

the exotics will be useless because it'll stay at the level you obtained them at. imagine being 40 and owning a level 32-39 exotic and doing little to no damage to things

[frozen relic]

warlords used to be the only way to get level 40 but they changed that

[stoic scaffold]

Alright makes sense and i found the helipad, up top at the public area, i see a female npc but cannot interact

[frozen relic]

have you done tidal basin

[stoic scaffold]

tidal basin?

[tiny oar]

you havent completed all missions then

[frozen relic]

its a stronghold

[tender wave]

After completing capitol building, the three faction strongholds have been invaded by bt, you need to run them again

[tiny oar]

whats the last mission you did ?

[stoic scaffold]

Nope, i got a few side missions and stuff left

[frozen relic]

have you done capitol building?

[tiny oar]

do them, then u can do white oak and then u can buy dlc

[stoic scaffold]

Last mission I did was a stronghold

[frozen relic]

against what faction

[tiny oar]

capitol building vs true sons ?

[stoic scaffold]

I don't remember really, i was just playing while on call

[stoic scaffold]

it's called district union area

[frozen relic]

theres two more strongholds to do

[tiny oar]

then it was vs black tusk, you missed few more stronghold

[frozen relic]

Roosevelt island and capitol building

[tender wave]

Then all 4 invaded strongholds

[stoic scaffold]

Yes yes I just saw

Guess I will finish them up aswell now

[tiny oar]

just do all the missions and stronghold, it will unlock more stuff

[frozen relic]

yeah thats how you unlock more things to do

[stoic scaffold]

Alright alright will do, btw is there a way for me to share my build, because am not sure how this entire thing works and if am good enough for lvl 33 stuff, so far its been easy but wanted to make sure

[frozen relic]

before lvl 40 the highest level gear is always best usually

anything you get will quickly get outleveled before max

[tiny oar]

dont focus on build before 40 since u gonna change gear often

[stoic scaffold]

Alright

[mossy gulch]

I am currently level 33 and why it says boost to nyc when i try to start the warlords of new york expansion?? Will it boost me to level 40??

[tender wave]

No but it will auto-complete any incomplete side missions and the storyline up as far as tidal basin

[mossy gulch]

Hmm i see i see thanks

[stoic scaffold]

ayoo i finished all three strongholds tff they re captured everything overnightt

[tiny oar]

welcome to the black tusk faction, u gonna have fun retaking everything

[hybrid ore]

@stoic scaffold The game kinda just takes stuff back when you're offline, you can think of it as the game world doesn't sleep when you do.
That's just how the game works, it's a persistent world.

[stoic scaffold]

Damn alright, so, so far i just finished the tutorial then lmfao

[tiny oar]

tbh the tutorial is everything up to lvl 40

u aint done yet

[stoic scaffold]

Oh alr, whats the content like post lvl 40? just the base game

[tiny oar]

raid, incursion, countdown, summit, legendary difficulty, retaliation, bounties, descent, etc, im forgeting a few

[hybrid ore]

Lvl 40 is where the endgame starts, but the thing is that these days, that's not as relevant, since you can do a lot of that stuff post Lvl 40 anyway.

[stoic scaffold]

wait the obj says investigate downtown west SHD info drop, what do i do? am at the settlement rn

[tiny oar]

just follow the marker you'll get to the obj

[stoic scaffold]

it only shows when am at the downtown west settlement and the marker doesnt lead me anywhere either

[tiny oar]

its prob just the missions you have to do cause all of them are invaded rn by black tusk

after you clear the map 3 mission + 1 stronghold get invaded per week

• you'll have all the other content unlocked

[stoic scaffold]

alr

[tender wave]

You've likely got a bit more story to go: the three invaded strongholds (same ones you just did but new enemy faction) then that'll unlock a new one, which is the final one

[modern blaze]

this doing all the cp's for the global stuff is sooooo boring 😭

[eager talon]

Isnt the west end control points always occupied by oucasts, or sometimes this can rotate with hyena's ?

[stoic scaffold]

yes yes ik which one

[tender wave]

Usually always outcasts but if you get a different faction retaliation there that can change it

[eager talon]

no just in open world.

[modern blaze]

how can i possibly take over ALL cp to UNLOCK the modifiers when they are actively taken them when i complete one wtf is this

[tiny oar]

just take them faster, also its not important to have them all, just enough to get a decent bonus

[spare cove]

Yeah, so unless you really want that backpack trophy, getting all those control points ain't that important.

[tiny oar]

also u can take them pretty fast with the hotshot oneshot build

[hybrid ore]

Oh if you really want to own "all" the CP's to unlock some bonus, you can head over to NYC/Brooklyn, there's way less there, and in a smaller area.

IIRC the only actually required reason to own a bunch is 2 Journey Missions in total. "get kills whilst blahblah".

[proven cipher]

someone have a problem with ammo at moment in the game?

[hybrid ore]

Define "problem with ammo".
If you mean you have none and only your pistol has bullets: that's the Pistolero Directive bugging out. Try swapping difficulties and making sure it's turned off. Even if you didn't turn it on.

[proven cipher]

I enter the game, and I have no ammo, I go to the ammo box and it doesn't restore my ammo

0 ammunition

[hybrid ore]

Yep, Pistolero.

[proven cipher]

ok, thanks , i will try

[proven cipher]

thanks, its work now. gg

[stoic scaffold]

@tiny oar i re captured 3/4 of all the control points and few areas it shows as invaded and few areas it shows as friendly, how to make other areas friendly as well?

[frozen relic]

i think doing the weekly bt invasion might do that

[solemn acorn]

my only complain about this season so far is having to recapture areas of the map each week to build the seasonal bonus back up

[solemn acorn]

if they show as invaded it means the black tusk are in the area, clear the black tust mision in the area and after doing all of them clear tidal basin

[valid sable]

hey you're farming Field Recon data along the way, it's a win-win

[solemn acorn]

i guess u right

also is it me or getting the materials from retaliation is just so slow

[valid sable]

its a grind but Retaliation is so fun, I don't really mind. Made my first succesful solo retaliation last night, it was a blast. Devs actually cooked this time

[hybrid ore]

It's a long term farm, it's a permanent gamemode so there's no reason to rush it.

[solemn acorn]

u right u right

unironically struggling with some of the journey objetives (specially the one for killing 2 asaults on one mag with headshots)

[valid sable]

what they need to implement is to have a kill squad... but made out of rogue agents 💀

[valid sable]

and I won't say the H word because that would be too overkill

[solemn acorn]

just imagine ur running retal and 5 hunters spawn in from a random sewer

[valid sable]

rip

[stoic scaffold]

oh makes sense why some of my control points got re captured

i had 7 more control points left to capture and i did one of the strongholds and then bam! 4 of my control points got re captured

[solemn acorn]

if u just want to get them cleared u can run all misions for black tusk on any difficulty

[tender wave]

Are you still working through the initial story invasion? It's best to hold off anything like that until you've completed tidal basin for the first time

[stoic scaffold]

wdym? I did all three strongholds for the frist time, then entirety of DC got captured by the black tusks so rn i am recapturing contorl points and doing my second stronghold

[tender wave]

Yeah, but each time you recapture one of the invaded strongholds that potentially resets your world (for historical reasons, it used to increase world tier) so it wouldn't be surprising if you lost all your cps. Best wait until tidal basin is done

[stoic scaffold]

so i do tidal basin after theses strongholds ryt?

[umbral dock]

yeah
and is there a way to force kill squad spawns? is it just a timer, or chance based on difficulty?

[tender wave]

Yes, you'll get a little side mission just south of the white house once you've done the first three invaded ones, that will unlock tidal basin.

[stoic scaffold]

alright

[languid bay]

Lowk when are we getting legendary retaliations

Bighorn blueprint reward would be so cool

[spare cove]

It will happen when we get Legendary Open World difficulty, aka never.

[languid bay]

Kinda a shame

Ik im not close to that typa endgame but id like some stupid hard endgame to build towards and look to

[tiny oar]

we were supposed to get black tusk retaliation, but it was cut from the game for some reason

also bighorn will never be craftable, same as eb and ravenous

its locked behind a raid/legendary for a reason

[grim rain]

How much armor would you say is considered tanky? 1.5 million and above? Or more?

[full zinc]

750k
when you sacrifice damage for armor the result is a slightly slower death. everyone knows decoy is the best tank in the game anyways

[valid sable]

Decoy is great but i'm having better results just with the plain lv.0 assault drone. Last forever, moves around, pesky, force enemies out of cover and sometimes even finish off enemies!

[tiny oar]

best tank in the game is your team dying while u dps

[tiny oar]

in legendary or heroic the drone get isntantly killed lol

[valid sable]

no sir, i have never have it killed in heroic. Just when a dog explodes and the EMP gets it

[tiny oar]

i wish i could say the same lol

[valid sable]

In legendary, I would use the decoy for sure

[tiny oar]

also npc focus the highest threat to them, so if you dps hard they will ignore other member or decoy or drone

there was so many times in legendary when i dps and suddenly a chunga turn 180° to focus me while the shield guy in my group is in his face and get ignored lol

[full zinc]

ig someone never runs spec ammo directive

[tiny oar]

indeed, i find it boring

[full zinc]

only skills i generally use on dps is emp sticky, jammer, banshee, revive.

[tiny oar]

i like emp pulse

but yeah revive kinda mandatory in random matchmaking

[full zinc]

nah, not really. leave em dead on the ground till you clear

[tiny oar]

the pb is a dead mate is a missed opportunity to get a free tank while u dps

[full zinc]

thats why you put decoy out... teamate obv needed a nap

[tiny oar]

yeah but decoy threat isnt enough thats my point

[full zinc]

upgrade it

[tiny oar]

i did, its like +25% threat

i just have too much dps sadly

dj khaled knows my pain for sure

[full zinc]

😎

[hybrid ore]

Lyfe, be honest with us. This is a safe space.
Are you trying to tank, in div2?

[tiny oar]

do i look like i can tank with 6 red and bulletking ?

[frozen relic]

yes

[royal moon]

ok. IS there like some 'special' going on, where all you get is big show LMG's :D

[tiny oar]

skill build isnt the same tho

[frozen relic]

no its just a curse

every player has it

[full zinc]

run tech and memento, instant tier 2

[tiny oar]

yeah, but i run striker, so not really doable

[full zinc]

and artificer to keep it alive

[hybrid ore]

"cause its a BIG SHOW".

[full zinc]

totally doable.

[tiny oar]

yeah if i wanna halve my dps

[royal moon]

every time you equip it, it just plays the wwe stinger.. 'WEEEEEEEELLL its the big show' :D

[hybrid ore]

Use Exodus for that Cena RP.

[royal moon]

wish there was an 'open all apparel caches at once' button

[full zinc]

are all frenchies this dramatic

😂

[tiny oar]

no im special juste like that

[full zinc]

i can tell

[hybrid ore]

I feel my joke works better if you know that Exodus drops a smoke bomb at your feet on armour break.

[tiny oar]

i do have a flair for the drama

whats the point of life if its not impressive

[full zinc]

need to drop bk and you wont feel like any minor change is halving your damage

[hybrid ore]

The devs are actually working on that, but the way div2 works, is that it freshly generates the contents of a cache on opening one, so mass opening them would cause server....oopsies.

[tiny oar]

im sure that taking out the striker bag will def destroy my dps

[tropic badge]

Is Journey 4, Eliminate Named Enemies with Signature Weapons bugged?

[languid bay]

I wish you could auto deconstruct field cache contents

[tropic badge]

I've gotten to six but now not getting any credit

[royal moon]

perhaps. I'm still at the point where i'm feeding 99% of the gear I get into my tinkering library :D

[languid bay]

I take a long ass time to open all my caches bc it always takes SOOOOOOOO long to go through em all and expertise/junk/modify all the shit you get

[full zinc]

nice, just dropped 4th pesti for my alt.

[royal moon]

maybe not an auto dismantle.. but a =fast foreward= button.. so like 'I don't wanna wait 5 seconds for 'bonus item'... its not exciting anymore :d

[royal moon]

darn. Nice. I'm hoping to get one.. just hoping I don't gotta go into DZ to get my first :D

[tiny oar]

the worst is getting an extra item, even longer, but to do triage its easy, stay at 150/150 inventory, then it drops on ground, then descontruct all

[full zinc]

you should really try the new set. since going lmg anyways

[hybrid ore]

I'd be okay with a "convert certain types of caches to other types" feature.
Kinda like Broken SHD Watches being used for Reconstructed, or Kill Squad caches.

[full zinc]

nah available anywhere, youre good

[tiny oar]

i did, im not a fan, too long to stack, too fast to lose stacks, not that much damage when compared to striker (striker really fk all of balancing sadly)

with tipping scale you dont stack on hit but on time spent shooting

[hybrid ore]

I've yet to see any kind of official meta setup for the new gearset, I'm very curious about it and Tink.

[full zinc]

i been getting something like bluescreen critting for around 1.5-1.7m

[tiny oar]

its not a bad gear set, but def wont outshine striker

[full zinc]

its solid

[tiny oar]

yeah but your non crit damage is awful, while striker your crit damage is lwoer but non crit way higher

which kinda evens out

[royal moon]

is there any point (aside from personal pride) to maxing all the specializations? like, maxed grenadeer, just finished minigunner, working on rocket launcher now.

[full zinc]

eh, shit melts man. really nice set for pestilence too

[tiny oar]

when i clear a room and go to thennext one, i still have lot of striker stacks, no tipping scale stacks, thats also a bummer

[full zinc]

yes, all have use in certain builds

[hybrid ore]

@royal moon Yes, the weapons themselves are largely useless (especially outside of this Season), the other buffs are the important ones.

[full zinc]

welp, back to work. been fun kiddos

[hybrid ore]

@tiny oar That largely depends on how far away the next room is.
Lots of areas in div2 are what I like to call "screw your stacks".

[tiny oar]

i am indeed very young

[full zinc]

-# Grandpa out

[royal moon]

useless?

[tiny oar]

yeah obv, but most missions you keep stack a lot, its not that common to spend a long time without enemies

[hybrid ore]

I've honestly found most of them have at least a few sections where you'll lose most, if not all your stacks.
Which is why these days, I swap to tink OD, or HF, or anything that doesn't require that ADHD play.

[royal moon]

ok. I'm kinda curious. in matchmaking, I see my shield rank (56).. but whats the other number? some people are likee 2k.. i'm like 600...

[tiny oar]

yeah i mean, most room changing is fast, but yeah most mission will have a few sections with long waiting time

[tender wave]

Shd level

[royal moon]

yeah i see my shd lvl was wondering what the other number was

[hybrid ore]

Season Pass rank will be one of them, DZ rank is purple.

most of the time it'll be SHD rank, especially if you see one in the 1000's.

and yeah, Spec Weapons are mostly useless outside of this Season. They do so little damage that it barely registers, and especially against named enemies, who take even less.
This season though, throw on Advanced Materials and have fun!

[tender wave]

Oh, could be commendation score

[small spear]

it's the biggest reason why most speedrunners use gc + vigi with striker nowadays, you aren't as reliant on stacks if you lose most of them for the next fight

[hybrid ore]

silly Kettle, no one knows what that is.

what is this "comEndation scoore" you speak of.

[tiny oar]

the thing im farming right now for some reason

[hybrid ore]

That weird mask isn't going to unlock itself.

[tiny oar]

well, the new one kinda will, cause journey 2 is bugged for now lol

[tiny oar]

tier 2 is 150% threat so really not enough

[frozen relic]

Hold a tdi tier 3

[hybrid ore]

Oh I mean that weird Commendation Score mask that everyone forgot existed, because it's either so far out of your reach, or you already have it.

It is pretty neat though, very steam punk.

[tiny oar]

180%, not enough

[frozen relic]

Go btsu and oc it

[unkempt marsh]

Hi everyone

i'm new to all of this so i'm just figuring things out

[tiny oar]

so, useless lmao

[full zinc]

You just too pro then

[full zinc]

Use decoy, add cloak, you look like a level one to npcs after that

[tiny oar]

i tried lol

tbh the threat emcanic is kinda busted

[sharp pebble]

What's a TDI tier 3?

[tiny oar]

tdi kard is a gun with +1 skill tier

[sharp pebble]

And what are we using threat for? A mask?

[iron gust]

Uh are some bounties bugged and I'm killing one of the bosses twice

[full zinc]

Threat is a mechanic that decoy uses to take agro. It's what was being discussed

[tiny oar]

its not a bug, bosses are random from a pool, and its rare but you can draw the same boss twice

[sterile ferry]

No i think they are. I once killed all 3 bosses in a heroic bounty but one of them respawned somehow and acted as a 4th boss

[iron gust]

^this I had a true sons chunga that I killed at first (and got the XP) his named was listed out but in the final area he was there again (name still listed out)
It's a new bug I suppose

[tiny oar]

medics can revive bosses

[sterile ferry]

Yes but it wasn't even in the same room

It was one room ahead. No medics, no nothing, just magic

[tiny oar]

idk then, it prob didnt register the kill

[hollow hill]

Abra Cadabra 🪄

[sterile ferry]

Also i noticed some bounties now say "secure the area" after taking out all the bosses. Previously they would just cross their names

[tiny oar]

its rare but sometimes a bounty can have the boss not in the last area, and a few npc in the end

[sterile ferry]

That, and also if you kill the boss before killing the ads

[shrewd oak]

Is there an option to hide equipment? Like vests and kneepads

[tiny oar]

only mask

but you can customize you apparel

[valid sable]

Some shirts/jackets don't have a vest, some pants don't show kneepads and so on. There is not an universal way to do it. And you can customize everything in your inventory apparel wise

[urban wind]

How rare is a Coyote Mask

Been trying to get it but no luck

[kind veldt]

just keep at it, dont think too hard

[urban wind]

Trying my best

[lapis hemlock]

No Regen seems to be the latest "most bugged" directive in multiple ways

Suspect "confusion" with Broken Armo part of the problem like directives have before.

[mild root]

Returning player here. I last played when 30 was max. I’m assuming my gear won’t upgrade to 40. I will have to regrind everything? Including weapons

[lapis hemlock]

• Was wearing Belstone Liquid Engineer w/4 Directives (no special ammo)

• Seemed regen not working being stuck below 100% after doing public execution.

• Fast travelled to a control point. to deal with attacking NPC's. and amor stayed below 100%

• After killing NPC's amor went back to 100% (which is not supposed to happen)

[small spear]

no regen disables ALL regen when out of combat. why? no one knows

[kind veldt]

you can get blueprints for your exotics, but the rest you will have to grind it out, but it's extremely easy to do so currently

[craggy pier]

Guys, list all the pros, DLS, New York warriors, there's no info anywhere, why should I take it, all I hear is "I recommend it" - "you definitely need it."

I want to know about the farm for exotic items, are there more chances or more of them there? What about the Kiner's clock? Do they give buffs, what skills? And all the details in general. If it's not too much trouble 🙏
Or where can I find all the information about the expansion?

(PS5)

[valid sable]

Lets take it one question at the time, what level are you currently?

[craggy pier]

You say me?

[fathom maple]

1. Keener watch its free for everyone, 2. Dlcs dont help to unlock exotics fasters, 3. Wony is the best dlc bc all the content and some things u get access like some manhunts, new skills and the second biggest map in the game

For the other part Battle for Brooklyn is just if u r a fan or if u want know more lore, not much playable content (around 3h), wony have like 8h-10h of playable content

Again, dlcs r not mandatory to buy but if u want buy one the best option is WONY, some skills u get there r very useful like decoy or sticky bomb

[tiny oar]

few skills are dlc locked, the rest is just content/story/lore

[craggy pier]

Someone told me that Keener’s watch with the DLC gives a 10% boost, unlocks new missions, and raids where more exotic items drop.

[tiny oar]

there was never a 10% boost, there are missions tho, raids are the same for everyone, exotics were locked before, not anymore

they give a lvl 30/40 boost for new characters tho

[fathom maple]

Ooohhh, he got the info wrong, the 10% boost is for the Battle pass, vía the modifiers, this modifiers r free for everyone once u get level 40

[lapis hemlock]

Got it. I think I had heard this

But the weird part was why did my amor go back to 100% after I finished an "encounter?"

[tiny oar]

it regen to full if out of combat

[fathom maple]

And about the raids, yes, there r 3 exotic guns locked behind the raid, so u need wony for It to gain access, only 1 of them is rlly viable in endgame

[tiny oar]

no

all raid are aviable for everyone as long as u ar elvl 40

[craggy pier]

What is this?

[fathom maple]

The guns or the content?

[fathom maple]

Fr? I thought It was part of WONY bc r raids from that year

[craggy pier]

Same ahah

[tiny oar]

even if it was, there is the one endgame update anyway

[fossil vortex]

아..

땜장이 (Tinkerer) 가지고싶어..

[craggy pier]

I thought the unlocks would be really interesting, but just for the story, lore, etc., and a couple of skills, there's no point in buying the DLC, sigh.

I was curious to know about all the perks, but the story part — I don’t need it for endgame 😅

[tiny oar]

english only server

[tiny oar]

i mean, there is also the missions, and the skills arent nothing

[fathom maple]

Does this mean im able to do 27M dmg with a 511 build???

[fathom maple]

Yea, sadly now is not that "good" to buy it, 2 years ago yes but now not necessary since they made half of the content of WONY free

[craggy pier]

By the way, I need the exotic assault rifle “Chameleon.” Where can I try to farm it? I heard that on Heroic, clearing Control Points at level 4, there’s a chance for the blueprint or the weapon to drop.

[fathom maple]

Yep, if u dont want farm bounties then go to countdown and target "ARs"

[tiny oar]

would it be more interesting to wander around in retaliation until timer is low to get more kill squad ?

[torn beacon]

Is pistolero directive bugged? I tried to turn it off but I still keep getting "No Ammo" even after changing world difficulty or logging off. Turning off the other directives didn't fix it either. I still see "Hard to Earn" active even though that's not a directive for this season.

[fathom maple]

Yep, is bugged

The only solution for now is restart the Game 8174 times until the bug dissapear

[fathom maple]

Meme Squad*

[torn beacon]

Well I tried already 6 restarts, I don't know about going to 8168 times lol.

[fathom maple]

The number of times is a joke, u need restart till It dissapear

Not fan of It but directives being directives ig

[torn beacon]

I got that part lol, but this still crazy.

[fathom maple]

Thats why i only use fog of war directive

Or whatever the no mini map directive is called, i think is the only one without bugs

[loud basalt]

Anyone else wanna use the elmo but just tired of how it looks or just doesn't match your outfit? Lol

[kind veldt]

Join the OD AK gang

[umbral dock]

nah use iron lung

cool dragon

[small spear]

who will win?

"i'm pinned here" suppressed ahh black tusk troop

funny dragon fire machine gun

[charred tinsel]

I've only ever really played DZ in division 1, do yall think Div 2 is worth a shot for me, like PvP, and even besides that I dont mind PvE

[shrewd oak]

Do directives give better drops or what.

[umbral dock]

marginally
they’re more for xp

there’s a droprate sheet somewhere hold on

[kind veldt]

They increase the targetted loot rate i think

[small spear]

yep

[kind veldt]

Less for quality and more quantity

[umbral dock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/jg8b1y/datamined_targeted_loot_drop_chances_and_an/

as they said, yes they give higher targeted loot chance

[late finch]

I leveled up all 5 active modifiers to level 5 on my main character, but the levels does not carryover to my other characters. So I guess I will have to level up the active modifiers for each character. Is my assumption right?

[lunar hare]

No, all your agents level up at the same time both seasonal/SHD wise

[late finch]

I thought that was to case too, but when I put on a modifier on another the level is 1.

[molten spire]

They are talking about progress on the seasonal active modifiers. Say Cheese, Advanced Materials, Zealot etc

[kind veldt]

Modifiers and journey i think per character

[eager talon]

Is there a limit to how many bounties you can 'store' from public executions or do they all go away during the weekly reset?

[molten spire]

1. Yes, the newest ones will replace the oldest ones once you reach it

2. No

[eager talon]

Around how much is this limit per zone?

[lunar hare]

I read directives, shit.

[craggy pier]

Where can I get the Coyote mask, by the way? In Countdown? Should I set the target to "mask"?

[radiant prism]

yes

[kind veldt]

Yes

Anywhere that has mask as targetted loot is a viable way to get

[azure lintel]

is it just me or i can't use tipping scales gear set as a transmog item for my character..

[sturdy comet]

Is there any way to know when a bundle will be back? Or at least an estimate? I started playing a month ago and I'm in love with the Death Roll Bundle backpack

[silent mural]

sup

[languid bay]

Journey 2 objectives feel more annoying than normal

Also, mad shame you cant matchmake into stronghold sessions in the tab. Feels like that makes too much sense to have.

[jagged prism]

you can though, goto zoo, captial building, district union arena or roosevelt island and matchmake
but if you're talking retaliations yeah it was a surprise you can't matchmake for that mode, but kind of makes sense you cant because not everyone is going to have the same ones in there

[jagged prism]

you'd have better luck in your LFG channels and most get pointed to GCRock discord, but probably any of your favorite streamer proably has a discord and people willing to run people through things

[split nymph]

i dont have any lfg discords

[jagged prism]

can probably google GCRock Discord and find some kind of invite for it someplace or maybe GCRock youtube will have a discord invite link in the descriptions

[split nymph]

are u able to run paradise loss w me?

[jagged prism]

ok i did the extremely hardwork for youhttps://www.youtube.com/@GCROCK

[kind veldt]

go to id:customize to see the LFG channels after you add your plataform

[azure lintel]

he already left the server...

also are there any "apparel holsters" that you can "buy"
like apparel in general, not "transmog from items"

[jagged prism]

not that i remember seeing, but maybe they hide them in bundles?

[royal moon]

Got my first pestilence. YAY. oof the stat drop compared to the bluescreen

[hybrid ore]

Stats on an Exotic matter less overall than the actual Talent itself.

that "weapon damage" stat isn't as useful as you think anyway.

[jagged prism]

about only increases in it that works that i know of so far is virtuoso and centurion holster

[royal moon]

kinda yeah. I mean it does alot less damage but it has the stacking debuff, which makes it FAR superior in a fight. I don't mind that. I'm more looking at like the accuracy/stability is like 1/4 or 1/2. I like a nice stable gun :D

[hybrid ore]

DtA with certain skills of course, and Weapon Damage is more useful, the less red cores you have, or something.

[jagged prism]

i could imagine gunslinger would work as well, but the backpack would be iffy considering you're swapping from 1 type to another for the extra damage?

[hybrid ore]

As fun as it is to just hold down the trigger and reenact that bit from Hot Shots 2, you aren't really meant to just spam fire in div2.
The game is very much a tactical focused shooter, if you're finding a gun is less accurate than you would like, it can probably be remedied by leaning how the pattern of fire works, which just takes time.

[royal moon]

oh I've definitly noticed it. Its just a 'huh'. and I know as I rank up my shield lvl will help offset the acc and stab as I gain ranks. its just a 'huh. this is neat but interesting stats' :D

[hybrid ore]

Just a heads up, it's actually "SHD" not shield, which stands for Strategic Homeland Division, which is who you as an Agent work for.

[royal moon]

derp, right. forgot. I was mostly confused, since I picked up a pestilince barrel, not the gun so was 'uhm wait when did I pick up the full gun'

[hybrid ore]

Wait, Pestilence Barrel?

Oh before I forget, one important thing about the Pestilence: it's not actually status damage, it's "weapon damage" that you're dealing in those ticks. Which can get confusing for builds, so avoid using pieces which increase status damage along with the gun.

[royal moon]

yeah. I was confused. I saw the orange of exotic mid run. picked it up (and the 12 other loot piles), and just kept one eye on the feed, and swear I saw pestilence barrel. I musta read it wrong :D

[hybrid ore]

It's possible you saw a Nemesis Barrel, which drops from one of the Stronghold Invaded bosses.

[jagged prism]

could be possible you got a pestilence and the nemesis barrel and just saw a flash of pestilene and barrel in 1 and thought pestilence barrel

[royal moon]

yeah. I checked my exotic resources and didn't see anything new, so not concerned.

[jagged prism]

nemesis stuff drops from District Union Arena, capital building, roosevelt island with very specific pieces, zoo will give you 1 of the random 3 pieces

[royal moon]

oh. didn't know you could get the parts from zoo. I thought I had to wait for the various places for the invasion, but if I can do the zoo.

[sour void]

You also need to dismantle a named SR-1 - Adrestia - for the final part.

[royal moon]

Yeah. got the scope from dismantling that

[sour void]

mind you, I kept an extra one as a conversation piece - too bad you can't upgrade it

[hybrid ore]

It still needs to be an Invaded Zoo.

[pliant sentinel]

why do i have so much shd calibration

i do not deserve this much reality altering powers

[hybrid ore]

Use it well, young Agent.

[pliant sentinel]

maybe i will get that frenzy + measured lmg

[acoustic wasp]

how long for downtime

[hybrid ore]

There isn't downtime every week, unless it's listed somewhere in this server, it's just going to be next week to fix the Manager Climax Mission bug.

[fathom harbor]

am i just unlucky or 50% drop rate on defending from retailation too low
i have gathered all KS BPs without getting a single completion BP

[onyx rivet]

Wassup agents haha

[fervent cobalt]

I believe the completion rewards pool is different from KS table so depending on the faction you might have them all already and would need to try a different faction. There was a graphic for it all but i have no idea where it is.

[tender wave]

Yeah for heroic it was 50% on completion and 95% on kill squad, which seems a bit odd

[toxic lily]

damn looks like Tipping Scale appearance is not available to other bags.... guess i'm stuck with the bag 😔

[feral mural]

this is false

[inland kindle]

Hello peeps I might be on the wrong channel for this but I’m on lvl 16 build wondering if there’s anyone that can help me level up my guy I’m trying to build a tank build I’m ok with dms also 😅😅

[fathom harbor]

#lfg-pc

[inland kindle]

Ok thanks

[grizzled mortar]

the new mode is absolut boring, to ez and not rly an benefit

sadly

for Veterans like me... waste of time :/

[remote pecan]

What improvements would enhance the mode for you? For me personally, it is nice to have an alternative source of Reconstructed Caches.
It is a bit grindy, tho.

[spare cove]

And... you lost me.

[grizzled mortar]

Other enemy classes, perhaps even a specific battle zone where there is much more activity... and much more
that mode could be way cooler but they dont invest much time for it

[grizzled mortar]

?

[spare cove]

I was gonna listen to your criticism, but by the time you mentioned you're a veteran player, you lost my interest.

[grizzled mortar]

its just the fact... Veterans are gettin nothing interesting rly anymore

[spare cove]

Yeah, sure

[grizzled mortar]

but hey... i need to make all my chars new... bcs my bank etc is bugged

[fathom harbor]

sounds like every veterans in almost every game

[grizzled mortar]

typical game industry problems

just focus on new players and dont care about the old rabbits

lets hope the devs will improve dat mode more in time

[toxic lily]

Wym. On my screen i cant find it. Unless they fixed it

[remote pecan]

Yea, more in line with the season theme The Pact, like mixed enemy factions and some of the minor issues improved (e.g. 30 second timer at the end, maybe selectable targeted loot).

[remote pecan]

Where do you look, in the apparel menu or in the inventory backpack menu?

[fathom harbor]

the 30s is really annoying
making people grabbing loot in middle of the fight, else they not gonna have time to pick them up in 30s

[remote pecan]

Should be something like the "Initiate Retaliation", "Finish Retaliation" after you're done collecting.

[toxic lily]

No i ment on mod. Appearence

[fathom harbor]

ye, no point making a 30s countdown, not like people would go straight AFK right after the fight

[toxic lily]

The only bag i can rogue emo mode lmao

[grizzled mortar]

I also wonder how anyone could come up with such a stupid idea of not adding a feature that lets you decide for yourself when to end the retaliation. No.. you have to rush around collecting your loot.. and sometimes a death squad comes along that you can barely manage to take with you...
As I said..its a nice idea but its only been implemented half heartedly... sadly...

But that's what happens when developers don't really play their own products themselves... they just develop them.

[fluid meadow]

Do note that perfect determined is worse than normal determined
Proceed with this notion in mind when it comes to discussing devs

[noble owl]

An NPC would be helpful to "Finish Retaliation" BUT I guess it's to prevent you from roaming around for remaining 25 minutes infinitely hunting for kill squads

[grizzled mortar]

so far ive seen now is it capped... to 3 or 4 death squads

[noble owl]

Ah, I see

[grizzled mortar]

and also when u kill the boss on CPs the same bosses spawn again

[grizzled mortar]

for ppl with Teamplay its an mode like an ponnystale

if u have an DD than u can finish it also alone

[noble owl]

Sometimes I think they need to give us new missions. Remember that division one mission where one player carries fuse box and other 3 have to protect the carrier? Why don't we have something like that in here? Healers would come in handy now that everyone goes striker

[grizzled mortar]

i hope sooo that the new SURVIVAL mode let u in so long as u want... and not with limit time...

[remote pecan]

You're right can't find it either.

[noble owl]

You couldn't stay in survival as long as you want in div1. You needed injections and had to rush to extraction otherwise you're a goner.

[grizzled mortar]

on Survival they can bring us the real division back...

[grizzled mortar]

as i said... lets hope without limit time

[remote pecan]

Incursions? Yea, more of them would be a nice addition, but they need to change rewards in order for people to play them after getting the exclusive exotic (same thing with raids).

[feral mural]

Just directly import Dragons Den or Underground and I'd be happy as a clam

[noble owl]

That would become yet another DZ with people eliminating every single one of them with no time limit. You'd see campers waiting for you at extractions without fear of dying or time ending, what made div1 survival especial is you had to extract no matter the loot, virus was killing you and you had no time to loot, adrenaline rush and multiple things to worry about, npc, rogue agents, virus, hunters. With infinite time it would be like "let me gear up myself so I can solo a Hunter, I've got time

[noble owl]

Underground was nice. Too bad it was generated. I'd love to see a DLC with an extended underground, not just small bits. I want a full scale metro line to explore

[grizzled mortar]

na man there are multiple options... u dont need to make an Warzone or Battleroyal

alone on the aspect of survival like food, water heath etc

[noble owl]

Timed Survival makes it less stress on servers. One group at a time without the need to keep one instance infinitely active. We don't even know how the servers will handle Survival everyone loading at same time. I guess they will do it like Conflict. 8 people queue, 30min limit, OR "earn time by killing" just like Retaliation. Who knows

[noble owl]

Forgot about that detail

Don't forget it'll be winter DC. So cold is one of your enemies

[grizzled mortar]

that what iam though about Hardcore... and not just permakill...
they could make HC also like an new Gamemode for ppl which want more the Survival elements..

[pliant sentinel]

i dont mind a sandstorm dc survival

[grizzled mortar]

as i said there are way more options

[grizzled mortar]

ofc

but time limits kills the survival

[pliant sentinel]

"aoight sandstorm aint too bad i cant see shi- is that a focking sandwerm in the distance"

[grizzled mortar]

bcs ppl would like stay all da time it

[noble owl]

Many things to consider. Small dev team to work on the project. But hey, no matter how good it may be, people will still complain

[grizzled mortar]

ofc

but to bring healthy critics which brings improvements can help

[noble owl]

I was afraid retaliation system would incorporated into live world, which would be nightmare from one point of view. But it would prevent people from nonstop grinding for BP's.

[grizzled mortar]

but yea the Community is also splitted strongly... bcs there is one part which is highly focused on PVP and than is the bigger part which wanna have more PVE stuff

[noble owl]

People complain for no reason. "This doesn't drop" increase drop chance "I didn't manage to get one for myself" give for free to your mailbox. And then they're like "I have all the items in the game, no point in grinding anymore, see you next season" or something.

[grizzled mortar]

most of the ppl just grind BP play some missions and left the game... bcs as i said... there is nothing rly interesting u doing all da time the same

[pliant sentinel]

i sometimes complain about the lack of meatballs in my oup

[tiny oar]

you missed the "i didnt got the drop after not looking in stash i shouldnt have to look for it in stash"

[grizzled mortar]

🤣

[noble owl]

That too, haha. Or "oh crap, I accidentally scrapped a one time item, better complain and say I didn't get it"

[grizzled mortar]

reminds me of YTs sometimes... also brainrot

anyway... they must more improve the game... so ppl will stay longer also in game

for example an new world difficulty between hero and legendary

[noble owl]

I spent over 200 appearance keys to get remaining 2 items. Am I gonna complain that 1.4 chance is not working for me? Oh no, it has ruined 1300h for me, what am I gonna do?! 🤣

[feral mural]

Retaliation is permanent, from what the patch notes said

[grizzled mortar]

but dont copy paste the enemies and bring also new activities which are more season connected like i dont know trainingscamps or other stuff... when u look on the season yet... fractions work together

[noble owl]

You didn't understand. Retaliation is instance based. You start, you finish and it teleports you out. I meant it as in live open world, where you wouldn't have to load into an instance

[grizzled mortar]

and dont make just the HP higher its an poor design idea

[noble owl]

Imagine kill squads freely roaming open world

[feral mural]

Amazing

[grizzled mortar]

for example... this GAME have sooo much potential

[feral mural]

I would love a live open world. 10 in a world at a time

[noble owl]

It does indeed. What they REALLY need to do is what they did in division 1 with pier. Expand the map, we need areas above White House!

[grizzled mortar]

good damn that what i though from the beginning as i see Pentagon... yay we can walk to da Pentagon

or for example the zoo

[noble owl]

With criterias, lock control points just like invasion missions. "Find and kill 3 kill squads in the named zone to unlock 1 control point". That would keep people busy

[feral mural]

Ehhhhhhh

[noble owl]

Coulda extended NY and Brooklyn. Added our most loved Manhattan too

[feral mural]

I would do it as more of a breakpoint kinda system. Control points have outrageous amounts of security and reinforcements, you have to take out kill squads to weaken the control points before you take them

[spare cove]

I mean, hostile control points in Brooklyn have turrets, so that's a good start there.

[noble owl]

Have tried it, but it was about at same time when other game was free on PS Plus for me so I had to make space. Gotta reinstall Breakpoint at some point. I played Wildlands tho, great game

[grizzled mortar]

that what iam still hope they will extend the NY map with the old map from Div 1

[noble owl]

I have mentioned this before in voice chat in-game: Add a miniguns to BT helicopters. Why do they not defend their troops when we just shoot them down mid air?

Place some snipers into helicopters that do NOT descend, shoot at us!!

[grizzled mortar]

dat devs just need more brainstorm sessions...

but hey lets hope the ETF brings also smth

[noble owl]

Or they need someone to storm through their doors and say "I have a great idea to make the game interesting" and they'll go like "but that would mess with the mechanics and create more bugs and glitches"

[grizzled mortar]

[noble owl]

ETF people are mostly content creators focused on killing enemies fast and have an epic build that one shots enemies. They bring little to nothing when it comes to ideas

[grizzled mortar]

so like YT brainrots

yay that what we need for improve the game all in all

[tender wave]

ETF are people who volunteered. The content creators will be the ones you hear about but there will be others who volunteered for their own reasons

[grizzled mortar]

join is closed?

[tender wave]

Dunno

[noble owl]

They don't necessarily think about the things that are already in game that require improvement, they want new things like : hey, what if we take a Hyena that wants to join Black Tusk? "Oh yes, a black Tusk junkie that snorts and rushes at agents bashing them with highly advanced electric baton and a tech shield that absorbs shock bullets to amplify the baton's dmg, very good"

[grizzled mortar]

i mean when its ingame but it isnt

😄 there we are on the point about season related enemies or activities etc

the only mission which is related is the manhunt and the masterclass

[remote pecan]

they opened up applications for gamescom, but I don't think they're open right now
around ~2000 people applied

[grizzled mortar]

aight thx for info

[noble owl]

I wonder how many get accepted

[grizzled mortar]

lets hope the 2000ppl brings smth

[feral mural]

I pretty much grinded out Breakpoint lol

[pliant sentinel]

whats todays project agitation

[feral mural]

I remember the raids. nigh impossible if you didn't use glitches to freeze the bosses

[remote pecan]

it's not like they take 2k people, just a whole lot to get through

[noble owl]

2k applied, not accepted. We don't know how many people they are planning to accept, maybe 20

[feral mural]

They'll hire about 20-30 of those people

like being an Olympic athlete lmao, about 20,000 applicants and only 2-3 will become olympians

[noble owl]

They won't hire anyone. Those people will go visit Ubi HQ for Div2 and play/discuss the game, mechanics and ideas. Let them test run survival and such, and see developers in action

[noble owl]

Let's just say it's like a marathon, first 30 to reach finish line will be accepted. (Based on their "CV"). Games they played and how many dedicated hours they've got in D2 (maybe)

[pliant sentinel]

we should be worried about bigger concerns.

[feral mural]

The games they've played aren't really important

if you're a tester, you're basically doing things like playing survival about 5000 times in minorly different ways to see if there's a bug or unintended effect

[noble owl]

I know, I tried to apply and filled the form, but it wasn't sending.
Edit. Tried to apply a month ago

[feral mural]

I mean, I did a bit of testing for the new Skate game, and I was told to just do the most stupid shit possible

found quite a few bugs by just doing things like jumping into railings at full speed

[tender wave]

@cold pilot #rules 4: no plugging your own content

[misty kayak]

none of the supply convoys i'm doing are counting for the manhunt...

[mossy gulch]

In order to upgrade my exotic weapons from let’s say 30 to 40 do i need to max my craft bench??

[jagged prism]

does it say in specific place?

[spare cove]

Are you doing the friendly or hostile supply convoys?

Cuz friendly resource convoys don't count

[tropic sentinel]

Does not sound too hard to test it.

[mossy gulch]

I am broke on e credits just reached level 40 so i don’t wanna waste them on upgrading crafting table if i don’t have to

[misty kayak]

manhunt states east. i've done them all over. none counted

[misty kayak]

hostile only. nobody got time for escorts xD they got guns

[tropic sentinel]

Well you can at least check if option to reconfigure shows up, you don't have to actually reroll.

[trail terrace]

Once you know the mechanics it's actually really easy

[feral mural]

Yeah, the mechanic is freezing them lmao

the flying drone and cerberus were mostly quite manageable, Baal was a supreme pain in the ass

[fathom maple]

Only the quantic room was hard

[misty kayak]

difficult, yes. impossible, no

[feral mural]

Nah, AI room was easy

Baal was the annoying one. if you weren't micced up it was impossible

The flying drone was easy as long as you get everyone pulling their weight, cerberus was really fun

[fathom maple]

Baal was annoying bc sniper spawn and the wolves with shotguns spawning randomly

[trail terrace]

Yes you definitely need to be micced up

[feral mural]

the AI room is trivialised by EMP nades

[trail terrace]

Baal can be done before the snipers spawn

[feral mural]

it's just that goddamn tank with the smallest hitbox ever lmao

[grizzled mortar]

btw here is a little note...
the levels of season mods are conncted to the chars seperatly

[fathom maple]

Koblin the best gun hands down

[feral mural]

usually if you've got one guy with an LMG you're ok

[feral mural]

416 scout is right there lmao

[fathom maple]

4rc better than that

[feral mural]

I always ran the SAW once I got it. that gun was op

[trail terrace]

Incorrect, it's the ac assault rifle. It gets a damage boost for the boss fights. Don't know why but it does

[feral mural]

no chance.

[trail terrace]

Correct

[fathom maple]

Ash mains hate u for that

Whatever i loved the M82 critical versión, more damage to the barret? Hell yeah

[misty kayak]

is there any way to trigger more resource convoyes?

[trail terrace]

Reset control points

[fathom maple]

Watch tik tok while u wait, It makes the time fly faster

[misty kayak]

time in exchange for brainrot? no thank you

[feral mural]

Ash mains can cope lol

the survival M416 and the SAW was what I always ran

[misty kayak]

just did 2 convoys in a row (they chained one to another)

[tender wave]

We'd appreciate it if you could move the breakpoint conversation to #off-topic-discussions

[misty kayak]

did not count. in judiciary square, which is east of WH

a third just popped in

[frozen relic]

what scout are you doing

[misty kayak]

second week

nvm... is there a prize for bios issue (know to be RCA between chair and keyboard)? i deserve it... scout (for reasons i do not know) was deactivated!?

[frozen relic]

it was deactivated for everyone

[misty kayak]

i did not know that

[tender wave]

Yeah new feature they added, it's catching everyone out

[mossy gulch]

That option is not available for me yet looks like i have to max the bench

[tropic sentinel]

Then must be the case.

[frozen relic]

which exotic is it because theres one you get at lvl 35 you cant reconfigure

[tiny oar]

so the retaliation doesnt count as "taking a control point"

[jagged prism]

believe that one was Capacitor that you get at 35

[strong gate]

is getting the birdes quick fix backpack worth it i cant seem to finish this mission

[tiny oar]

yes

[strong gate]

i struggle i can play most missions solos but not that one

[wooden karma]

I wonder how hard it would be for the Div team to allow the attachments to be visual flair instead of stat coded... I wanna use a supressor but keep the 10% crit damage stat. Each slot has a stat selection list from the existing ones but you could just pick what you wanna use on the slot visually

[tender wave]

#1380194318786232360 message
This is why we have a suggestions place now

[tiny oar]

master difficulty isnt meant to be played solo

[wintry horizon]

so any idea when turmoils are given out? i got mine on 12th and then they dissepear kinda fun

[wooden karma]

glad someone already done it for me, +1 to i lmao.

[tiny oar]

u got in your stash some more

[wintry horizon]

i dont i just checked

[strong gate]

ahh i see

i must try and get a group to help

[small spear]

it's like legendary in that sure you can solo it but that's only if you want a challenge

[tiny oar]

not your average difficulty

[strong gate]

i did the get the tinker mask on master solos and i can play legendary missions solos but somehow this kelso one is very difficult specially with the hunters

[tiny oar]

ye hunters are nasty

damn why did i drop 5 chameleon in a row

[hybrid ore]

Someone's been farming Bountieeeeeeeees 🎵

[tiny oar]

we all know that place

bounties loooooove that place for some reason

[hybrid ore]

Give me an A, give me an R, give me the same location for 7 bounties in a row!

[tiny oar]

at least they spawn almost always close to safe house, and no need to run forever to get there

[hybrid ore]

I'm starting to leave loadouts in the Archive, it's quicker than having to go get them every time I get another bounty there.
and for some reason, at least half of them have been for NYC/Brooklyn factions.

and doubly weird: even if I cap out the Rikers/Cleaner Retal meter, I can't travel there and instantly do it, I need to trigger the last point again.

I'm enjoy Retal', I swear.

[tiny oar]

yeah now this area also attracts the ny bounties on top of dc bounties

its weird but i wont complain cause walking time

[hybrid ore]

You know what, I will take any weird bounties, if it means I didn't have 16 BT bounties. Count it, sixteen.
and no, I haven't done any Public Executions to stack them up.

[tiny oar]

i think its only in that zone if you're on heroic, if you go on lower diff they dont stack there

[hybrid ore]

Not even in that one zone, I've got 7 in west potomac, 1 in west end, etc.

Just weird that I have so many despite never stacking them up, I need a bounty converter BP from Inaya.

[tiny oar]

i think we get a few free

[tender wave]

If you visit the snitch regularly you'll stack them up too

[tiny oar]

oh yeah that too

[hybrid ore]

That counts me out, snitches go in ditches (and also neither danny nor cassie have anything of value)

[kind veldt]

Projects occasionally also give them

[hybrid ore]

It's funnier if you just imagine Sokolova is using it to get rid of no-hopers.

[spare cove]

Well, she's a narcisstic psychopath, so anything is possible 😛

[tiny oar]

i love that killing wild life gives a time malus in retaliation lol

[dry gate]

so interesting thing.. I tried to speed farm retaliations for broken watches..splitting up and doing CPs separately won't work 🙁 you can clear the CP the first wave but you have to wait for the other CP to finish completely. Bummer.

[royal moon]

oof

[soft echo]

Is it a weekly store change for cosmetic bundles?

I'm not familiar with the rotation

[valid sable]

every Tuesday

[opaque lion]

i feel like it changes outside of Tuesdays

[valid sable]

every Tuesday

[opaque lion]

but it does have new stuff every server resets on Tuesday

[soft echo]

I see, I am hoping for a Keener Bundle return.

[tiny oar]

why sometimes i die in retaliation i respawn to safe house and sometimes i just straight up lose retaliation ?

[tender wave]

Would still save on running time tbf, and whoever finishes their cp first can then head over to support the next one

[small spear]

if you die in defense phase (when it says "no respawn zone") dying will end the retaliation

[tiny oar]

well thats stupid

[small spear]

yeah it was not obvious to me at first too

[solemn acorn]

might be a dumb question but if i want to clear the invasion do i need to do all invaded misions and then tidal basin or only tidal?

[tender wave]

All of them

[valid sable]

even dumber (honest) question: is there any benefit in clearing the invasion?

[solemn acorn]

the seasonal bonus thing

for having friendly zones giving you more damage and firerate

[tender wave]

Invasion doesn't necessarily take CPs though, although I think it might make them more likely to be recaptured

[solemn acorn]

ik ik, the thing it the area shows as invaded and not friendly so im guessing it wont count towards the seasonal modifier

[tender wave]

It does count, the only thing the seasonal modifier looks at is whether the CPs are hostile, friendly or neutral

[solemn acorn]

ok then

[tiny oar]

lmao i did some conflict for the weekly project, 10 games, i got spawnkilled on repeat in 8 of them

pvp is still busted af lol

also got no full team, always 1 spot empty

[royal moon]

maybe a stupid question. Friend and I are trying to do the flamethrower research. One of the research things is 'complete the zoo against the outcasts'. We've done it twice now, with zero completion. The base zoo says 'take it back from the outcasts' but its not working, is there an invaded we gotta wait for or?

[tiny oar]

did it include the diofficulty you should be doing it ?

im pretty sure you're supposed to do it on hard at least

[royal moon]

complete Manning National Zoo on Normal or higher

[tiny oar]

did u do it on normal or story difficulty ?

[royal moon]

i was sure we did it on normal. We'll run it again later to see

have to say. doing 100 floors of the summet didn't prep me for that top floor :D

[tiny oar]

well, 20 match of conflict, not a single full team or win lol

people do ragequit very fast, like 1 death is enough

[valid sable]

people ragequit in PVE if you take more than 30 seconds to revive them. Like, let me clear the area around you first my man

[tiny oar]

there should really be a timer to prevent u from going into conflict again if you ragequit a match tho

like ok bad team and lost games are annoying, but they are the one creating thoses lost games

[valid sable]

the workaround is that you get experience even if you lose but yeah..

[tiny oar]

but i need a win for project, thats the issue

doesnt matter if i autoqueue up, i never get a full team its really annoying

i think in 20 games we didnt kill more than 5 enemies

and i face maybe like 5 cheaters

[faint umbra]

how to get the Tempest pistol? I finished the journey, finished the pact, tried to do the "manager" mission but it doesn't let me set master difficulty. any suggestion?

[tiny oar]

its not from last manhunt, its for the next one coming

[faint umbra]

so people could get it for weeks now but I can't get it in a proper way now?

[tiny oar]

it was a bug, its been disabled for that reason

[faint umbra]

great

[noble isle]

I should've been on it 😭

[tiny oar]

it was annoying to get tbh, and the gun isnt great, so def not worth it

[faint umbra]

i planned to combine it with a bullwark build, reflector shield and the Overdog gloves to amplify damage. i guess it will wait a few weeks/months

[cyan musk]

Why isn't eagle bearer used?

I recently got one and I'm seeing consistently better numbers with my hsd eb than with my dtooc elmo and dtooc lex at tier 5

[languid mist]

how can i get Belstone BP's?

[kind veldt]

Eagle has awkward accuracy and used to have less rof, so the other two options were better

Eb talent is useful but niche to most people

[pine cypress]

Does someone know the sidearm with the biggest base dmg where the talent is reroll able

[remote pecan]

It's really good for solo heroic, I used it all the time, you can run around without using the shield. Just need to watch out for the buff and damage mitigation.

[remote pecan]

#ask-td2-community message

Accuracy is fine with Striker and the watch maxed out, it gets more accurate while shooting.
Works well with this season even in groups.

[tiny oar]

gun isnt very accurate, and its talent is for tanking not dps

[tiny oar]

reconstructed caches is your best bet

[kind veldt]

Harvest named magnum for high ends, for exotics it's easily regulus

[remote pecan]

I can easily outmatch others with it.
The 60 mag size is really good, the damage is fine and you can dps while being tanky, where others need can't damage.

[tiny oar]

yeah regulus has stupid damage, its like merciless if it was good

[tiny oar]

tbh elmo is just better, you can cc the enemy, 70round mag, much more accurate, better rof, better damage, etc

[remote pecan]

yea this isn't about what's best, I'm really tired of Elmo and EB is a great weapon

[tiny oar]

i mean the question is just why its not used, not "u shouldnt use it"

people just go for the most efficient most of the time

[remote pecan]

if you can handle a bit of recoil control it's fine, ppl really sleep on it and maybe because it is a raid exclusive
also don't know about console/controller players, maybe the recoil is an issue there

[kind veldt]

same damage and rof isnt it?

[tiny oar]

its not slept on, its not about recoil, its about accuracy

[remote pecan]

which isn't really an issue, you get 30% for continuous shooting

[dire patrol]

Anyone know why the Compromised modifier isn't available, even after all Journeys have been completed?

[remote pecan]

you have to get a bit closer to the enemies anyways because you want to get the headshot kill

[tiny oar]

it is an issue, if i place the visor on an enemy but it shoot next to it, its bad

[tiny oar]

i dont remember, its been so long now, maybe even changed the stats at some point

[dire patrol]

And Compromised isn't in the Rewards section of Journey 1 - 8

[remote pecan]

skill issue, jk
tbh I play it all the time and it's fine, no laser in comparison to Elmo but what is

[kind veldt]

the gap between elmo and eb right now is the 10 rounds, and the accuracy mostly, not even touching the talent

[tiny oar]

yeah, it is what it is : inaccurate, thats why people dont play it

[remote pecan]

EB has more damage, but same rof

[kind veldt]

eb has worse starting accuracy becuase it was part of the talent

[tiny oar]

when most npc die in a few bullet if you're all red, why bother stacking up the talent

[kind veldt]

eb has a bit more damage

[remote pecan]

maybe because accuracy combined with the "high" recoil

[kind veldt]

just opened the game and decided to check

[kind veldt]

journey 2, kill snipers with headshot

[dire patrol]

Ah! Thank you

Note to self: Read More First 🤦

[thin oasis]

It is, in PVP.

Outside of that, it's just worse than alot of other ARs.

[hollow hill]

Hi, Pvp maniac here

It's all bighorn Regen or umbra builds with capacitor. We don't claim EB anymore 😂🤣

[thin oasis]

Well there you go.

Everyone is free to use what they wish to use, EB is literally just worse than other options.

[hollow hill]

Only way to really use EB, even in pvp now, is with striker + Memento. Good players won't let you stack striker or Memento up. Could use it on umbra but anything else beats it

[cyan musk]

Chungas

[hollow hill]

Shoot the chungas in the ass, dead within a quarter of a mag

[cyan musk]

Mostly boss chungas

[frozen relic]

He turned around now what

[hollow hill]

Not enough DPS, boils down to build issue

[frozen relic]

I had 100 striker stacks

[hollow hill]

Hol up: define the chunga

[tender wave]

EB is good if you want to trade some damage for a LOT of tankiness and prefer to push up close to enemies, it's a relatively safe braindead way of playing (at least solo, doesn't translate so well to groups)

[hollow hill]

That's assuming they can aim for heads-

[tender wave]

hence the getting close, makes heads easier to hit

[cyan musk]

Pentagon emp boss

[hollow hill]

Striker with Elmo's

[frozen relic]

I remember him looking away for some reason and he died instantly to me

[hollow hill]

He couldn't handle your agent's smug look

[cyan musk]

I honestly dislike elmo I've used it a lot and I'd prefer a different talent

Like even if it was just foam shock just doesn't work properly in my experience

[frozen relic]

If you wanna use a lmg iron lung burns

[cyan musk]

Truthfully I kinda wanna get ouroboros I think it'd work well with strikers

[hollow hill]

😬 Ouro

[cyan musk]

I wonder how awful it is with scales

[hollow hill]

It's straight poo poo. Ouro is useless since the nerf. Talent sucks on it. Burst DPS is okay, but dark winter is best

[cyan musk]

Damn they really killed it that hard?

[hollow hill]

Nerfed it by 10% damage and 10% ROF. And I think dropped the mag size by 10 bullets

[cyan musk]

Is lady death worth running on striker?

[hollow hill]

It's no better than a normal vector now but shoots maybe 200 rpm faster

[remote pecan]

not really anymore, since Dark Winter was also nerfed

[cyan musk]

The 75% damage amp could pair well with zealot

[frozen relic]

Usually want a tac vector with killer tbh

[frozen relic]

No it’s Not good for other then moving fast

[cyan musk]

Are 90% of the exotics really this useless?

[frozen relic]

Now you get it

[cyan musk]

I thought they were suppised to be well exotic but they all feel like garbage

[hollow hill]

Exotic ≠ good

[frozen relic]

Elmo’s is a dps loss over a he ar as well

[remote pecan]

they're meant to deliver unique playing experiences, at least what the devs intended them to be

[cyan musk]

How are so many worse than just a high-end

[hollow hill]

But a major utility gain 💯 20 extra rounds and shock rounds makes it too good. And the crit mods on it is hard to pass up

[frozen relic]

True it’s a good choice

[hollow hill]

I'm a sucker for EB so I vote EB > Elmo's. Nothing is more satisfying than winning 1v4's with tenacity or clearing a whole room chaining tenacity and taking 0 damage

Elmo's I like for when I wanna just beam with my brain turned off and stop people with shock

[tiny oar]

chunga u need accuracy to take down the bullet chain or the healing pack

[cyan musk]

Honestly aside from accuracy eb is better than elmo it has higher base damage and 5 extra chd

[tiny oar]

"aside from elmo's better parts, eb is better than elmo for sure"

[cyan musk]

It's literally just one area elmo is better

Elmo is better overall but eb is better for raw damage

[tiny oar]

is it just one area tho ?
bigger mag, better accuracy, better talent

[hollow hill]

Elmo's is better because you can't always chain headshots together. Everything can be shocked

[tiny oar]

also recoil but thats possible to mitigate

[remote pecan]

Elmo nerf when? xD

[tiny oar]

it was nerfed a while ago iirc

[remote pecan]

the reverted the mag nerf, sadly

[hollow hill]

During Y6S2 when striker got nerfed, the crit mods also got nerfed

[cyan musk]

In my anecdotal experience around 1/3 of the time shock just doesn't do anythimg

Like it applies but they still move and shoot like normal

[tiny oar]

its one of the best cc aviable lol, if they move with shock, they'd move with any other cc

[kind veldt]

that is mostly some specific enemies because has issues with animation cancelling means skipping it

so enemy starts something while shocked their animation just kinda skips it

tho thats mostly personal observation on things

[tiny oar]

actually, they are still shocked, if their animation finished and the shock still apllied, they will do the shock animation

[kind veldt]

anyhow people are fighting over what shiny stick is 2% shinier

[tiny oar]

but most of the time, the first animation is long enough to get the shock to fade

[hollow hill]

Bug

[tiny oar]

grass is always greener on the other side unless i dont like the other side neighbor which means my grass is better and he should know it at all cost

[hollow hill]

💀

[tiny oar]

I say the whole world must learn of our peaceful ways, by force if necessary

[hollow hill]

It's not very peaceful if by force-

[tiny oar]

please im not that old, i swear u guys just have no culture

[hollow hill]

That was contradictory af 😭

[tiny oar]

its a futurama reference

[hollow hill]

Oh 😭😭 see I'm a Rick and Morty nerd 😭😭

Keep putting off Futurama 😭

[tiny oar]

yeah, not the same generation lol

wait until you find out about community, same creator as rick and morty

[tiny wave]

is the zealot quest, resist 1 million damage bugged?

[tiny oar]

kidna, u need to take way more damage than intended

[hollow hill]

my brother says its a good show, hes watched it before. the whole series as well. idk if i have that kinda patience 😭

[tiny wave]

ive been running district union and getting killed for like 30 minutes now

[tiny oar]

the show has low moments, but when you get to the highs, its prob higher than most show i have watched, it amassed a certain cult following cause of this, but its mostly cause the show is an hommage to movies/series/game nerds, and treat them with respect

[tiny wave]

quest seems stuck on 3/5

[hearty raft]

Ok I know that I’m supposed to use the oxidizer for this it keeps killing the tank enemies before it breaks their armor

So how am I supposed to do this season journey mission?

[spiral swallow]

anyone else having issues with Scout 2 still locked?

[lunar hare]

use an mmr, melee bait them and be patient with it

[fair lake]

activate it with the button

[hearty raft]

I thought it was better to use oxidizer?

[lunar hare]

I found it faster and a lot more precise

[spiral swallow]

Why would they go and do something like that??!! SMH Thanks. 🙂

[fair lake]

To prevent you from doing multiple scouts at once

[spiral swallow]

Like last Manhunt? I thought that was a feature not a bug. lol

[tiny oar]

its not a button issue, i completed it and its not marked as completed

[fair lake]

Hmmm, mine is fine

[tiny oar]

well mine isnt

[livid cosmos]

on the "rewards" of a control point, is the xp shown WITH directives or without?
so right now a CP4 says 632k xp, I have 3x directives on
I assume this shows pre-3x xp event too

[frozen relic]

it shows with directives

[tiny oar]

its with all xp buff

a cp4 with all directive is usually a full lvl or slightly more

with xp x3 or x5 i dont remember

[frozen relic]

it doesnt show what youll get extra from the xp event

[livid cosmos]

Ahh right okay, makes sense. Was wondering why I was getting less levels than I thought i would 🙄
thanks!

[frozen relic]

yeah you should be getting like around 1.9m xp per control point

[lunar hare]

812k Heroic + 5D

[frozen relic]

i wish i could have 5 on

[tiny oar]

u can ?

[frozen relic]

wont let me turn on pistolero

probably just a weird bug tbh

[lunar hare]

so it's the same as last season with Rager or whatever?

[kind veldt]

Can only have 5 in open world

Mote in summit

[kind veldt]

A bit, more rare so far

[frozen relic]

with me anyways yes

[lunar hare]

rip

[near prairie]

Have they said if they’re gonna keep the retaliation feature in after this seasons over? Cause I would like it to stay it’s fun

[small spear]

it's permanent

[near prairie]

Dope!

[valid sable]

so I thought I had all of the blueprints, cuz the control points stopped granting them a long time ago. I knew I could get the rest in Descent, but was focused on other things in the game. Thought like I only was missing like a couple of blueprints. With the new Retaliation mode, I realized i'm missing over 100 blueprints! Before retaliation, was I supposed to grind for those blueprints in Descent mode?

[hybrid ore]

Yep! Reconstructed Caches was how you got them, and Descent was the way to go before this.
You can see the BP total at your Crafting Table, but can also check out what you're missing specifically over in #td2-descent > 📌

They were being awarded during the last Shepard XP event, they might be again.

[valid sable]

Great, I don't mind grinding for them on Retaliation, love that new mode

[hybrid ore]

Just think of it as a very long term grind, there's no reason to burn out on it.
It's honestly a good mode anyway, the sheer amount of enemies means that you get some solid chunks of loot.

[valid sable]

For me its like a new Countdown but in the open world, and you can also do it solo.

[tiny oar]

arent npc supposed to be allied since retaliation ? why are rikers and cleaners fighting each others on my world ?

[royal void]

Anyone know what the best thing is for grinding xp

[tiny oar]

cp4 with directives

[royal void]

Cheers mate

[valid sable]

Do all open world activities as fast as you can manage with a couple of directives, on Challenging is OK.

[tiny oar]

#lfg-pc

[royal moon]

found reference of something called 'to order' allowing me to prime grenades. Is that a gear piece or a perk skill or something thats been depreciated out of circulation

[hybrid ore]

Wat.

@royal moon That's a chest talent, called "mad bomber", Carpenter has a named version, but both allow you to "cook" grenades.
warning: you can just keep holding them until they explode.

[kind veldt]

plot of the season is all factions made a pact to attack division together and not eachother

[tiny oar]

yeah like the pier update in div 1 but its supposed to be all zones in div 2

[royal moon]

ty

[minor dawn]

Anyone know how to get the eagle bearer?

[lime fulcrum]

you gotta spam some dark hour raid

[minor dawn]

🤦🏾‍♂️ lord

[minor dawn]

Can i matchmake for it ?

[lime fulcrum]

no sir

[minor dawn]

‼️

[umbral dock]

aw come on raiding is fun

[minor dawn]

Wanna join we have 3 already ?

[teal steeple]

What do reconstruction caches do?

[tender wave]

give blueprints for named items

[dire ravine]

If anyone on ps has been wanting to buy div the gold edition which includes Wony and Brooklyn is on sale for $20 in ps store

[fathom fjord]

does anybody know where to get the exodus gloves

[native plaza]

I need a crew for division 2 starting from the beginning

[proud garnet]

i got mine from a generic exotic cache i dont think it has any reqs its just in the general pool

[fathom fjord]

ohhh okay gotcha thank you!

i didnt know if there was a specific type of enemy i could try and at least farm

[silent mural]

LVOA-C my beloved

[tender egret]

Anyone else having trouble with Weekly Requisition Project where you donate some, close menu then try to donate again and you can't open the project?

Also I had 275 food enough to complete it but it only donated 79...

[kind veldt]

do the active modifiers get XP from doing other stuff or only form retaliation, i admit i didnt pay much attention to that

[frozen relic]

The one you’re using gets xp for every kill you get otherwise just retaliations

[fossil spade]

What is the best 2 gadgets to wear in division, like drone and shield.....

[hybrid ore]

@fossil spade It depends entirely on your build.

[limpid pond]

hey, is anyone noticing that on SHD Level up's - Selecting Printer Filament's as your reward, results in E-Credits being given instead?

[full zinc]

mortar turret, emp sticky

[hybrid ore]

Is the EMP sticky for when your Mortar turret starts to back-talk and you need to go anti-skynet on it?

@limpid pond Just tried it, got Filament.
How many are you trying to claim at once?

[limpid pond]

just 1, or many, doesnt matter, it gave me E-Credits twice now

[hybrid ore]

Yep, tried it 3 times. Filament all the way.

[limpid pond]

interesting, ill keep an eye on it

and why is my map showing, Outkast CP's but Hyena's are on it?

[hybrid ore]

Sleepover with friends.

[royal moon]

haha... wtf is that chimera

[full zinc]

probably time to restart pc. might need to verify files if it persists after rebooting everything

[inner mason]

Does anyone know if we ever had health mods that we can slot into gear slots or I'm I misremembering things?

[remote pecan]

yea pre gear 2.0

[inner mason]

So they're not in the game anymore?

[tropic sentinel]

No. Health is a useless stat anyway.

[blazing citrus]

If your having to rely on your health something has gone wrong 🙏

[tiny oar]

it's def not useless lol, but the minor stat that give hp are way too small

[tropic sentinel]

You would use gear mods for hp instead of chc/chd or something else useful?

[blazing citrus]

Not what theyre implying

I think theyre meaning its not useless but also just not worthwhile enough to build for

[tropic sentinel]

So useless.

[blazing citrus]

I dont use health so idk much about its use-fulness/lessness

My guess is its useful in situations with gas leaks (the situations where your health ticks down instead of armor) but those are niche af

[remote pecan]

after the clutch/beserk meta it wasn't really viable anymore, besides maybe pvp with high shd levels, but that's gone for good

[tiny oar]

depends on the build ? if im a tank im not gonna build crit obv

crits on tank is as useful as hp on glasscanon lol

[thin oasis]

Which would be armour and regen not health

"Tanks" aren't really useful for anything outside of Raids anyway

[tropic sentinel]

You won't build for health either. Get amor, regen, pfe, repair skills, whatever. And damage/crit is not useless on tank either. You can easily run some hybrid on morozova/fieser.

[tiny oar]

i didnt say its the most effective, i said its doable

[thin oasis]

In summary.

Yes, health is pretty much an entirely useless stat.

[tiny oar]

its like saying any gearset that isnt striker is useless cause striker has more dps

no, other gear can dps, even if its less, doesnt mean they useless

[tropic sentinel]

You dps with health stat?

[thin oasis]

Not even remotely the same thing, or comparable.

Plenty of builds suit different playstyles and different strengths.

Health doesn't feature in any build, because its useless.

[tiny oar]

did you miss the part where i said "crits on tank is as useful as hp on glasscanon lol"

[tropic sentinel]

And I gave examples where it is useful.

[tiny oar]

yeah u gave example of not tanks

[thin oasis]

Mainly because you cant even physically stack it high enough to BE useful in any situation

[tiny oar]

if you're hybrid thats hybrid, not tank

[tropic sentinel]

Literally examples of furnace and key tanks. That can dps as a side hustle.

[tiny oar]

so, an hybrid, not a tank

i can build glass canon and tank in normal diffculty, doesnt mean im a tank

[tropic sentinel]

If you have enough armor to stay alive and tank, you are a tank.

[tiny oar]

i guess pgc is a tank item then

[tropic sentinel]

I don't wanna add spoilers, but you don't use PGC.

[tiny oar]

how would u know, since i do

[remote pecan]

splitting hairs now

[tiny oar]

about as much as saying "no all dps build are fine but there is only one way to tank"

if people aint taking the discussion seriously im gonna follow their logic

im tired of the "no but u dont understand when i dont use meta build its fine but when u dont its not fine cause i decided its not"

[tropic sentinel]

This wasn't even about meta. You are just moving goalpost.

[tiny oar]

#td2-general-chat message

didnt move anything, i said u can use whats not meta if it works, and u just keep on saying its not doable

[thin oasis]

You literally tried to argue that health stat wasnt useless.

You are wrong, and now are going on a weird tangent.

[tiny oar]

like i didnt say it was op/strong/whatever, its def not a stat u gonna look for in most build, that doesnt mean its useless entirely

some gear/stats are strong only in super specific scenario, doesnt mean they useless

it means they niche

[tropic sentinel]

Obviously having more than 0 hp is good, cause that means you are not dead. But the guy was asking about health mods, which are no longer a thing. And he's not exactly missing out.

[thin oasis]

But health is none of those things.

Its literally useless to build on.

You can build on plenty of things, health isn't one of them.

[tiny oar]

already covered that : #td2-general-chat message

i agreed its way too weak atm

tbh i wonder why devs didnt make gear that rely on hp, we have hunters fury that give hp back, but thats about it, the rest is just "more hp", and it doesnt regen on its own if you get hit unlike armor, which is kinda bad

i guess 2 "hp" bars are harder to balance, still would be cool to have diversity tho

tho pvp might be a nightmare

[pliant sentinel]

spawn a kill squad near me i dare u

[inner mason]

Seems I started a debate on the Health stat lmao. The reason why I asked is because I want to stack as much health as I can. This is not for PVE, but for PVP. In pvp you can use perfect efficient and firewall medkit to facetank anyone and just stack Pesti on them and keep spamming medkits. It's fun to run around and be a tank with 2.1 mil armor and 1.4mil health.

[tiny oar]

if you're that much tanky you wont die fast but you def wont be able to kill them

i mean if they know how to play a little bit at least, if they bad they bad anyway

[bold pier]

hey is there a reason epic music is playing in the castle settlement? I just finished the vanilla campaign

[tropic sentinel]

Epic music?

[bold pier]

yeah. I'm assuming maybe it's related to a season in the past but it didn't sound like something you hear when you show up to a hub normally

[inner mason]

Oh trust me they're gonna die lol. Pestilence is insane with it's tick damage. I'm running hazpro and health and it kills people, especially when I'm playing with my team and I'm their tank. You literally just spam armor kits and stack pesti and annoy pvpers with it till they run out of armor kits or die because they don't have time to pop a kit.