td2-general-chat

[twin snow]

Completed Climax mission this season! Didn't have that bug at the end because I was following the workaround. However I fell through the map at the docks.

[small spear]

same

[hybrid ore]

Pier-less gameplay.

[hollow hill]

its a feature 👌 its a hidden reward for beating it

[obsidian storm]

Just wanted to ask if anyone else’s cat backpack, is placing your chosen skills on the wrong side of where you like it to be. Apologies if this was asked before.

[hollow hill]

yeah its doing it for me too. just swap skills to the opposite slot it normally would be for you

never noticed that until you said so

[blazing citrus]

One thing i never really see people doing is when a hunter goes and heals you can melee them to interrupt them. Like in countdown opening it helps if the 4 man teams don't have enough damage

[hollow hill]

i typically just foam them or apply burn

[tropic compass]

Opened a summer swarm cache by mistake and got the Lexington 🤭

[blazing citrus]

By mistake.... how do you accidentally open a cache?

[small spear]

help i accidentally build a shelf

[blazing citrus]

Fell over an ikea flatpack shelf and miraculously put it on the wall

[hollow hill]

rogue protocol, activated

nearby agent has gone rogue

[tropic compass]

Spam opening the others caches

[tropic compass]

Haha everyone in the group were stood over me

[dull summit]

Is dv2 having connection issues??? I've been disconnected 4 times now mid mission

[blazing citrus]

I mean theres no diff between opening now or later

[dull summit]

It's not my Internet as I'm pulling 400+ speeds

[elder rune]

Yea it been bad to day men and the clan have been crashin alot

[dull summit]

Ight, wanted to double check I'll attempt to play dv1

Thank you

[upbeat umbra]

Ive heard that an invaded manning national zoo drops a random part of nemesis that you dont yet have. Will it still reward a component even if I dont first do this first clue step in Tidal Basin?

[tropic compass]

Im planning on mass opening 80 😝

[hollow hill]

only gets the oh carol:

[tropic compass]

20 on character, 60 in mailbox

[hollow hill]

influx of caches and people ditching loot on the ground might do it

[tropic compass]

Watch it be the backfire or claws out

[hollow hill]

claws out would go good on an IA harvest 1 shot build

just make sure it drops with HSD and roll to weapon damage

[tropic compass]

I have no idea what IA is 😅

[hollow hill]

Imminence Armaments

[tropic compass]

Ohhh

[median meadow]

My game aint working neither >console)

[cunning forum]

just got a 12:41 on challenging capitol building but my recording didn't work, i'm 111th on a leaderboard with cheaters

[cunning forum]

not really, on a 1-shot build (atleast for pvp) you wanna go 3 IA, punch drunk, sacrifice and contractors

[hollow hill]

true. but for HH tho youll want claw's out

somebody recommended me to swap to fox's and ended up finding it nerfed my build. thats because HH favors weapon damage

[cunning forum]

i see, makes sense

[hollow hill]

get any more goodies during this event?

[lime glade]

I think I know the answer but I can't play with my PC character (and level) on Xbox right?

[hollow hill]

nope

[full sable]

The Division 2 please game developers, Summer Swarm empty crates could increase the chances of rewards

[hollow hill]

preaching to the choir here. a multitude of us have voiced it here

[spare cove]

They should add guaranteed drops next event, so I don't have to hear these complaints ever again.

[hybrid ore]

I've gotten a Lud or Purist in almost every single cache I've opened so far.
So in a way, we are getting guaranteed drops.

[blazing citrus]

(Keep in mind that this server has no say and holds no sway in the development of the game)

[spare cove]

If the game was dictated by this server I'm sure it'd be.... interesting.

And that's me being generous.

[blazing citrus]

A genshin pity esque system 🤔

[hybrid ore]

Never played that particular gambling game, but des2 has something where if you don't get the drop after a while, the odds increase each time.
That feels generous enough.

Can be a very small increase, 1% each time feels fair.

[blazing citrus]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow hill]

i think for each cache you open and its a dud, it should increase the chances. i think that would be fair

[blazing citrus]

I think a +n would be good enough where n is the base chance

[hybrid ore]

Don't you mean a Lud.
🥁

[blazing citrus]

So for lex itd be 3, 6, 9 so on an so forth

[hollow hill]

badum tss

[hybrid ore]

@blazing citrus Nah that's too much, it needs to be a flat tiny increase each time.
especially since Lex is pre-godrolled.

[hollow hill]

still havent gotten my 4th lex but I did manage to snag another dupe nimble holster

[hybrid ore]

I got 2 without even opening caches.
peasants.

[blazing citrus]

🤔

[spare cove]

Maybe the RNG has a special exception for mods 😄

[blazing citrus]

How about. Just handing it all out like candy on Halloween

[hollow hill]

wait how? you cant farm for it

[hybrid ore]

I'll give you a sec to think about it.

[blazing citrus]

Veteran rewards 🤔

[hybrid ore]

Lex comes with dtooc innnately, and all maxed stats.
so getting tons of extra copies isn't really that useful.

[hollow hill]

oh you meant lexington. not nimble holster 😭

[hybrid ore]

I think I have like 3 of those on my alt, where I keep all the useless exotics.

[blazing citrus]

I might go for 2 or 3. 1 for hb, 1 for striker and 1 to play around with

[hollow hill]

yeah I had 2 lex's as well. snagged my 3rd one then after that I no longer got it ever again

[hollow hill]

i need 4 so each one of my characters has at least 1

[hybrid ore]

So far my Swarm caches have resulted in an EB, which is not the raid thing I wanted, but I ain't gonna complain.

[hollow hill]

hell, whatever you want, ill hand it over if it means a free EB i can use

[blazing citrus]

What were you hoping fot

[hollow hill]

want my turmoil? take em. useless to me

[blazing citrus]

Also if we ever get a new raid or incursion i hope we get exotic gear rather than another weapon

[hybrid ore]

I've dismantled like 6 of those.
I really want an extra Reg, I'm tired of swapping it back to my other farmer.

or Ouro, I wanna try that dumb fire-rate setup.

[hollow hill]

felt that. another reg would be nice. I can just farm for 2 more and then never want it again

[hollow hill]

slapping it on umbra?

[hybrid ore]

2pc Striker.
I did say it was dumb.

[hollow hill]

ive seen dumber. cant be no worse than my decoy build

fully utilizes Aegis

[hybrid ore]

I do have my dumbest build ever, it's my old HazPro setup for backfire, pre-buff.
but so far the only person to see that is Aspect lol.

[hollow hill]

ive got a striker hazpro setup for backfire. its not the seasonal modifier one either. full red, majority hazpro, only needs like 1-2 bleed mods. even uses glass cannon

[ancient kettle]

Got an ouro& 2 ravs before getting turmoil thats so is rigged

[kind charm]

Dude I just bought the game and the 2nd quest I'm stuck it won't show me a waypoint

[broken thunder]

that feeling when you cant find a gear piece you thought you had

[sweet fiber]

does anyone know if you can still get the gold, silver, bronze skins for the lexington if you never got it before? ive been playing div1 and 2 since launch day, even before. just wondering if im gonna get shafted just for not seeing a specific event one time

[sharp rivet]

Anyone running the new update I need the Lexington

[remote pecan]

no, there is no way right now

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/4ZazHtURrWlLr2hMDJzdo/veteran-rewards-program

Veteran Bronze

• Eligibility: First login to either The Division or The Division 2 after November 28, 2024
• Reward: Named LVOA-C and bronze Lexington weapon skin for it.

Veteran Silver

• Eligibility: First login to either The Division or The Division 2 between January 2, 2024 and November 27, 2024.
• Reward: Named LVOA-C and silver Lexington weapon skin for it.

Veteran Gold

• Eligibility: Logged into The Division before January 1, 2024.
• Reward: Named LVOA-C and gold Lexington weapon skin for it.

[sweet fiber]

damn :(

[broken thunder]

run prio objectives set to stronghold. then speed run the mission

[sweet fiber]

Eligibility: Logged into The Division before January 1, 2024. my first login was the beta lol

[small spear]

it doesn't matter how much of a long time player you are, if you logged into div2 during the event the game then checks for your first login and gives you the appropriate rewards. simple as that. you didn't login during the event? you get nothing

[sweet fiber]

yeah thats cringe

[broken thunder]

Its rather sad. Hopefully they will be given out every year.

[sweet fiber]

just becuase i wasnt following the game at a VERY TINY timeframe, and logged in , i wont get the reward

[remote pecan]

idc really, because either way they don't have anything to do with real veteran players
would be better if they were tied to shields from div1 or something

[azure lintel]

How do i fix my backpack being stuck in a dye color when i take it off?
everytime i switch areas like to brooklyn or countdown, the dye always goes back to one i took off

[sweet fiber]

its just a nice-to-have thing yknow ?

[remote pecan]

the bronze skin was just logged in one before the Lexington dropped the first time, I mean what kind of veteran is that 😄

[sweet fiber]

yeah ik it isnt about REAL veterans of the games, its just a nice looking skin, especially the silver one

[remote pecan]

sure, I meant it like I don't really care if they hand it out again, because they don't mean anything really

[sweet fiber]

and its a bit annoying it isnt retroactive

played both games on launch day, and i cant get the skin just becuase i didnt see this event because i was doing other things with my life :(

[remote pecan]

yea especially because you did login before january 1st '24
maybe do a suggestion, we didn't really see anything coming out of it yet, but it can't hurt

and if the suggestion make sense, I'm there for upvotes

[whole badge]

guys last week we have event glitch getting x6 xp is this happened for real ????

[kind veldt]

Havent heard anything about extra XP

[sweet fiber]

also 50 caches not a single thing yet :(

found out i cant get the skin, cant even get the gun, not even one exotic from these caches

[whole badge]

the event with 3x someone told me we had a glitch to do it x6

[whole badge]

bro lev200 got nothing here

[sweet fiber]

yeah literally nothing :(

whatever, im going to bed

[wicked merlin]

This has to be a problem with the game as i @sweet fiber have opened about the same and got Nothing as well Start a to feel it's wasting my time grinding for The dam Knee pads

[sweet fiber]

feels like some players are -luck and some players are +luck

[kind veldt]

Get a good podcast to listen when grindign

You will get while you werent paying attention no time

[wicked merlin]

Hahahahaha About 80% of people having got anything out of them That's not very good odds for the first week

[kind veldt]

What is anything?

[wicked merlin]

Put me for instance. I literally have the wasp helmet out 60/70 caches No exotics

[sweet fiber]

literally anything from the bonus reward, i’ve only gotten like half the suit too, the bee suit that is

it’s just kinda crazy how bad some people’s , myself included, rng is compared to the streamers who open 10 and get a lexington and the knee pads

[wicked merlin]

I absolutely agree

It's just not right

[kind veldt]

From exclusives i've only gotten caretaker and shield splinterer

Gave to one guy who had just reached 40 so his gear was still full purple lv 39

[whole badge]

guys is this real ppl getting empty cashes these days ??

[warm bronze]

Best Talent for an AR?

[valid sable]

Last night I got a random invite, it was a guy doing Tidal Basin legendary. "oh god im not prepared" and it was mid fight, so I could not change to a pre-saved build. I went to cover and... this guy had a normal shotgun, but with the RPM of an SMG.... destroying everything even from beyond the walls

[kind veldt]

No

[wicked merlin]

People aren't getting the bonus drops

[valid sable]

Infinite ammo, infinite RPM, everything died, and I gained a proficient level for everything and just picked up the loot. I just followed him while he soloed the level and finished it. How cooked am I?

[small spear]

you need to get a better gaming chair, catch up

[rough rover]

🤣 🤣

[valid sable]

I just told him that he was the best Division player that I had ever seen in my life

[small spear]

LOL

[valid sable]

I kinda wanted to tell him that please carry me a couple of more Tidal Basin legendary runs to grind proficiency, but don't know, maybe that was asking for trouble later

[rough rover]

If only I could ever attain such a skill level

[valid sable]

and it was a random invite, i was chilling on a safe house and got invited directly

he was like SHD level 700 and had a build that did not make sense. Second time I bump into a (PVE) cheater online

also, if that is the type of hacks people bring into PVP... 💀 infinite shooting through the walls

[sweet fiber]

lvl 200 not one drop

[small spear]

it's the same

[hollow hill]

It's very common in pvp. If you spot a PvE cheater, or even PvP, don't worry about being banned. You won't. Not even they will. Reports don't do anything. Look at a PvE cheater the same as "here, take a break, you earned it. Reap the rewards"

[hollow hill]

Beyond level 220 in the pass, I've gotten maybe 2 or 3 bonus items in a mere 100+ levels. No lex, no turmoil, but I have gotten 2 nimble holsters that I was very enthusiastic to get

[spare cove]

Nimble Holster, my beloved

If I have time, I wanna spread the good word about it.

[warm bronze]

Cant beat the Dodge IMO, lifesaver

with a determined D50 , savage

[fleet prism]

the RNG number generated when yo first created your character is dictating why yall are not pulling the LEX. got my lex first box i got.. MIND yo i was the BUMB ass who deleted my LEX when it was given in the mail for returning VET players lol

[fathom cloak]

lol, I'm happy that I got the Lexington in the first 5 caches but I've yet to see an exotic or turmoil... only 140 in the pass, so not quite at the burnout point either. also potomac on master turns all those crates into clown cars... I was not expecting that.

[fleet prism]

take a break from it. com back 4 days later or something. it will drop before the event ends.. they just want you to play more so the % code is low for some.

[dark wolf]

Are yall seeing better drops after hitting lvl 180 and above? Currently 190 and no lex…

Since the vanity items are gone, the chances should’ve increased right? 😭😭

[broken thunder]

its great I just forget to use it lamo.

[ancient kettle]

Second Lexington 💀

[hybrid ore]

Just an FYI, "lmao" is what you're looking for, "lamo" is old slang for calling someone a jerk.

@rugged token You're looking for #lfg-pc, GL Agent
also make sure you join a clan down in #td2-clan-recruitment to find regular people. There's no downside to leaving and joining another.

[fathom cloak]

been fighting the war against the rng for too long to really be bothered by not seeing it at the rate I've been "farming", lol...

[rugged token]

If I got the game through Xbox game pass on pc I can play with Xbox players too?

[hybrid ore]

@rugged token Gamepass PC and gamepass xbox are 2 different versions, sorry.

no crossplay in div2, only if you're on the same platform.
e,g, steam/ubi-connect/epic/pcgamepass play together.

[warm bronze]

95 swarm crates between 1st and 2nd Lexy

[full zinc]

Got 2x lex 1x turmoil in first 4 pages.
Got a few dch,ridgeways, elmo.. no raid exclusives tho... season 160-170ish now

[tiny oar]

damn i got a lexi when i dont need it, i wanted an eb man :(

[hybrid ore]

EB, Birdies, and like 2 other exotics in the first 150.
still getting wasp bits though, so not too bothered yet.

[wraith locust]

I finished last Sunday, which was interesting to say the least

[full zinc]

Just running prio, I been racking up exotics anyways tho. Also easy matchmaking because all are running strongholds and most kwtd.
Mortar Supremacy raining supreme for a couple weeks

Feel bad for the NPCs at the end of capital spawning into hell tho 🔥

[hybrid ore]

I've had horrible luck with backup calls lately, almost no one is joining until at least halfway through, then I suddenly get 3 with a single call.

or the ever popular "join after the mission is over".

aaand my 3rd Manning Zoo of the day. I need a break.

[stable otter]

Can I do 2 of the New York rogue agent missions to complete the rogue agent ridgeways pride chest piece?

[steep needle]

there been any response at all from Massive on not getting any bonus loot for multiple multiple swarm cache openings or are they just doing the normal "F you and just play the game"?

[hybrid ore]

@stable otter They don't count, sorry.
Your best bet is to farm CP's, they can attack them. Or every 30 minutes in Summit they'll replace an Encounter.
All rogue encounters spawn in at group size+1.

[hasty marten]

anyone done the math on how many crates till its about 50% chance to get turmoil

[stable otter]

Thanks, and do rikers have bounties? As I need to kill 3 named rikers

[hybrid ore]

@stable otter They do, you have to be in NYC or Brooklyn.
if none are spawning in, do a Rikers Public Execution/Hostage Rescue perfectly, and you'll get a Bounty.

[stable otter]

Sound thanks

[wraith locust]

I remember when I had 10 encounters in one day

[full zinc]

I skip manning, if I dont have a reroll I swap agents

[hybrid ore]

The fact that it's Invaded this week helps a looooooooooot, but damn it is just such a dull Stronghold.
I think it's the sheer amount of travel between points. It was pretty the first dozen times.

[full zinc]

If I could get dua/capital/ tidal I'm gold. Dont even need to swap builds

[hybrid ore]

Realising that "brooklyn-mission" can be art/army has helped my sanity quite a lot with the stronghold grind. They are worth way too much.
"queen" having a literal plot armour shield hasn't worn off being funny yet.

Outside of the obvious build suggestion from you, I need to switch it up. Strikers is geting real old.

[full zinc]

You know you need mortar in your life 😎

[hybrid ore]

A mortar in my life would solve a lot of problems.

[fervent cobalt]

I have yet to even see a brooklyn prio but my bf has had h5 and art a few times

[hybrid ore]

especially with that one neighbour with the uncapped bike.

[fervent cobalt]

H5 has bascally district xp, idk about the other two. Kinda nuts

[hybrid ore]

All on heroic are basically 1k with a little taken off.

it's absurd, in a good way.

[full zinc]

Bots never learn

Then again, they dont ever get tired either 👴

[hybrid ore]

Damn, I wanted to learn how Drake could give me free crypto.

[fervent cobalt]

Is that what the 1-4 jpg things are? Gonna report them next time. Thought it was discord being weird.

[hybrid ore]

Yep, just bots spamming fake/hijacked accounts.

it's always a celebrity AI faked in some way, and weirdly, usually a controversial one.

I think it's up to Mr Beast now.

[fervent cobalt]

Eeesh, that sucks but kind of funny i guess.

[fresh moth]

Is the server status bad?

[sudden grove]

This event is starting to be bullshit real quick. I understand wanting to work for something vs being handed freebies and that's fine, but there's def some broken shit. I'm over 200 season level now, so well past all of the apparel. Saved up 15 caches to open all at once trying to get lexington since i've only gotten chatterboxes or other common items. 1 single bonus item out of 15 damn caches and it was the stupid festive backpack. The rewards are not worth the effort. Too many garbage items in the pool and zero fun being had. But If I ever want to use a couple of those items, I have to do it. Couple content creators suggested being rewarded with tokens so you can purchase what you want, similar to countdown vendor. This seems like the most rewarding and fair way to go. Even if they're expensive, at least it doesn't want to make you uninstall the game forever when you open so many caches and get nothing.

[kind veldt]

#lfg-pc

[frank rover]

have the servers just gone crap all of a sudden?

[granite perch]

servers are lagging bro

[hot ruin]

na east, im good

[hybrid ore]

Curerntly working down in AU,.

just logged on fresh.

[granite perch]

still at 0% asia

[hot ruin]

you have arrived at the same conclusion as many others, drop chance too low for time req, needs drop protection. easy fix

[frank rover]

I am in AU and they are totally scuffed atm

I was just doing the manager mission and enemy was not moving and they took a long time to die

[oak spear]

Yep it's pain and without that bonus drop, the caches are useless. Also one exotic component at the end is just mean. This event does not respect player time and investment.

[hybrid ore]

Telstra strikes again?

[frank rover]

ew no I am not using telstra

[hot ruin]

warframe does a great job with this. new items have grindy farms, but you earn special currency along the way that is used to buy said new items if you invest a lot of time and are unlucky

[oak spear]

Oh I'm aware. I go back to warframe after destiny 2 and division 2 abuse me for weeks.

[hot ruin]

thats a fairly new thing for the game though, in the last year and a half or so? came out with citrine i think

[oak spear]

Yep

[hybrid ore]

Yeah was gonna say, that was very much not a thing in WF early on.

good god was it not a thing.

[rough sun]

Let's wait for weekly reset, hopefully devs will announce "fix" for summer caches

[quaint prairie]

do u get season pass xp for stretch goals in conflict?

[feral oyster]

It’s possible to get eagle bearer in DZ?

[delicate whale]

8 caches in a row, no bonus loot

[hybrid ore]

@feral oyster Yes, but the drop chance is hard locked to 0.02%, with no boost from TL, and you still need to extract it.

@rough sun Don't count on it, reset is in 8 hours, no announcement yet.

[rough sun]

Just go to GC community and ask for help, very easy, might take 1-2 run DH (30 mins each)

[eager talon]

Man the div2 servers are shitting them selves now and to think the player count is low

[hybrid ore]

Lol, what a leap.

"temporary server hiccup, GAME DED".

[eager talon]

Glad I dont share that mentality with you.

[hot ruin]

youre still not unlucky statistically. its a 10% chance assuming you have all cosmetics

[hybrid ore]

You literally just said the game was dead after saying the servers were dying.
Not everyone is having the issues, and the player-count is actually the highest it's been since WONY's launch, as noted during the gamscom stream.

Less of the doom and gloom in the future, it's really starting to get old.

[eager talon]

Literally? Dont be too dramatic, I just said they are shitting them selves and player count is low. But I guess that means dead in english. I apologize

[hybrid ore]

@feral oyster you're looking for #lfg-raid-console, GL Agent

[lunar hare]

Says the guy that calls a game, indirectly, dead as he plays it.

[delicate whale]

It's still a terrible experience overall. Grinding for hours just to get literally nothing. 50+ chests and I've got 3 unique named pieces, 0 exotics

[hybrid ore]

@eager talon Enough with the emotes.

[hot ruin]

i mean thats not nothing, but i understand your frustration. it would be better with grind protection, like an event specific currency as others have suggested

thats rng for you

[delicate whale]

Just make it so bonus loot always happens, we're already playing with a ridiculous amount of rng.

[eager talon]

Huh?

It is now against the server rules to use emotes? My bad!

[hybrid ore]

It's against the server rules to be deliberately annoying, yes.

[delicate whale]

Then disable emotes

[lunar hare]

genuine question, how can people be such crybabies tho

[hot ruin]

ah let him have his cheeky fun, he aint hurting nobody

[granite perch]

i think the servers are loaded

[eager talon]

I used 1 emote and It is being annoying?

[eager talon]

Its just you, game is running fine.

[hybrid ore]

Trying to post the same "laugh/cry" emote 3 times in a row, after getting called out for being a doomsayer and saying "don't be so dramatic" is fun for no one but them.

[granite perch]

it just pu me in a queue

[eager talon]

3 times? Where???? I only used it one OMG

[hybrid ore]

You know I can see whatever you try and post, right?

It's saved in a log.

Okay enough of that for a while.

[granite perch]

maybe on the server where it connected me because it placed me in a queue

[delicate whale]

Had to check this wasn't the Helldivers discord

[hot ruin]

some regions seem to be having issues

[granite perch]

yup just checked my internet speed and its fine

man just when im about to grind hehe

[hot ruin]

🤷 one way to do it

[quaint prairie]

back to back exotics

conflict caches for the win

[finite scarab]

Anyone else having issues logging in on pc right now?

[frank rover]

servers are having a meltdown atm

[finite scarab]

@frank rover this game and warframe are having issues for me. Guess I'll get extra sleep tonight, boring lol.

[hot ruin]

Not the worst idea 🤠

[quaint prairie]

servers reset yet?

[hybrid ore]

@quaint prairie The daily/weekly reset won't happen for another 5.5 hours, roughly.

[eager talon]

Its now forcing me to connect to AUS servers which gives me like 300-500ms

[feral oyster]

Are they ever going to add more raids?

[hybrid ore]

They spoke about it ages ago, but the general answer was "later", but we do know that Paradise Lost (the Incursion) is called "the first incursion in div2", so take that how you will.

[plucky bridge]

how do we expertise named turmoil?

we cant?

[iron adder]

can't

[plucky bridge]

thats so funny & ridiculous

[cunning forum]

why would you expertise it?

or do you mean get it proficient?

[hybrid ore]

Expertise on guns isn't as good as you think, expertise on gear is essentially useless.

[frozen relic]

it only matters at all in oneshot builds tbh letting you oneshot something you couldnt before

[eager talon]

I typicall take my guns to a mimium of 15, the difference between 15 to 30 is very negligible and I only do it if im capped on exotic components. I would rather increase the experties on some skill like defender drone for that sweet 30% reduc. Also Im a Mortar turret enjoyer, so that also gets a 30%

Would missions/strongholds switched to manhunt mode count towards invaded completion?

[hybrid ore]

Invaded mode is different to a manhunt.

[slate cargo]

82 caches later i FINALLY got my lexington thank god! and i got turmoils awhile ago ugh my mental was cooked im so happy

[brazen elm]

gr9 with frenzy and measured is stupid fun

im burning through half my ammo in a firefight

[worn token]

I got Lexington in my 5th cache but I already had 2 of them. The only thing I wanted was turmoil

Still don't have turmoil

So grinding still, rip me

[pliant sentinel]

lord bless me w a turmoil

[shrewd cosmos]

Me too lol

[rough sun]

Oh, 5 hours mantainance, they gonna "fix" summer caches

[dull cypress]

They might actually buff the numbers?

[rough sun]

Possible, no reason for maintenance at this point other than buff drop rate

[austere vale]

LVL 40 SHD 79 DPS IF YOU NEED HELP FOR ANYTHING NOW LET ME KNOW

[covert lava]

[austere vale]

SORRY LEVEL 779

[blazing citrus]

There is like..... the entire rest of the game that they could be fixing

[dull cypress]

what gamebreaking bug popped up now

[blazing citrus]

Including the manager climax mission bug, stash bug, etc etc

[blazing citrus]

Popped up? I mean ongoing ones

[frozen relic]

Tinkerer glitch as well

[rough sun]

Fix the owner 1st, if not Ubisuck, this game should be amazing by now

[austere vale]

whats the tinkerer glitch

[blazing citrus]

(What tinkerer glitch?)

[dull cypress]

Yeah I assume a ton might get banned for abusing it lol

[austere vale]

had no trouble with the master mission

[frozen relic]

Let’s just say I’ve had streamline on a nemesis

[blazing citrus]

Ah

So they stopped lex having tinkerer but not nemesis

[blazing citrus]

Lettuce not start a hate train on members of the dev team or conpany.

[frozen relic]

Also a friend had determined streamline and vindictive on a Elmo’s

[blazing citrus]

Dont they have the bubgo approach to bugs that people take advantage of?

Tldr if its the devs fault the players usually arent punished for it

[blazing citrus]

Idk how useful determined sounds on elmos

On nemesis tho 🤔

[rough sun]

Determined always active, so you shoot everywhere always count as headshot

[dull cypress]

for glitches like the infinite caches last season and max roll crafts yes
for gameplay stuff iirc nah

[austere vale]

so if you never had lex before is it still a good build

[blazing citrus]

Lex is still a top tier ar

[tawdry cedar]

Hello, is there going to be a maintenance or is it just the visual bug?

[warm rover]

No one in community knows for sure yet

[tawdry cedar]

Ok, thanks

[fluid niche]

Is there a Maintenance today?

[dull cypress]

in about 28 mins yeah
5HR down time

[lusty pumice]

Well it´s Tuesday so there should be maintenance today!

[fluid niche]

Ye but u no sum times there don’t be a maintenance on Tuesday

[lusty pumice]

And i sure hope they do something about the % chance on these summer swarm caches!

[fluid niche]

Ye u not lien I really feel like they lied about the chances

[lusty pumice]

That´s why i wrote the word "should"! HAHAHA

[fluid niche]

U right 🤦🏽‍♂️

[frank rover]

What language is this?

[cerulean orbit]

GR9 with Frenzy and Sadist while running four Ongoing Directive gear set and Wyvern Wear pack with extra damage after applying status effects kind of scares me, because of how fast I can shred enemies

[rose juniper]

server maintanence in 8mins

[lusty pumice]

4x striker, tinkerer mask, The Sacrifice weapons with tallent´s "killer" and "Sadist and Mini gun Signature Weapon! That slaps real good too!

[dark wolf]

Anybody know what the maintenance is for?

[quartz zenith]

was about to ask that too

[rose juniper]

either gamefix or patching the drop rate or new outfit

[lusty pumice]

I hope it´s for Summer Swarm caches and their % chanse!

[dark wolf]

Praying for them drop rates

190+ n not shite

[tawdry cedar]

257 here still no turmoil

[lusty pumice]

And i got Turmoil and Lexinton in just 14 summer swarm caches!

[dark wolf]

Hopefully they just give lex for free again cause that’s all I need… the fact we have to farm for something ppl got for free is bothering

[rose juniper]

damn. im on 216 and got 3 lex + 1 turmoil

[tawdry cedar]

glad to hear man

[quartz zenith]

has a 5% dropchance but you know what xD i got a eagle bearer a ravenous and 2x nemeses but no lexington

at 241

[tawdry cedar]

i got bighorn, 2 chatterboxes and lexington

[dark wolf]

Birdie pack, nimble holster, chatterbox, and like 5 liberty’s

[covert lava]

this mainternant maybe about the master mission DOT bug

[tawdry cedar]

i got like 3 liberties aswell. not sure exactly how many

[lusty pumice]

I know one player here in Finland who got everything in just 50 caches! I mean DAMN!

[eager talon]

I had 2mins left but game booted me, lmao!

[tawdry cedar]

that sounds like what the event should have been to be fair

[lusty pumice]

Yeah i know right! This is so unfair system!

[dark wolf]

I feel like the chances for exotics should be low but the named items should be at least 10% imo

[quartz zenith]

in my opinion nobody wants the named items from the loot goblin

[dark wolf]

Unless you’re missing the harvest or chill out mask during events

[lusty pumice]

Sure we should not get anything for free but this type of grinding cant go an! There is players like me who never ever will do any raids and or have the time to do raids due to working hours and family! my point is im no hard core player who has no "life"! HAHAHA

[covert lava]

then they can wait till next goblin event tho

[dark wolf]

This

[covert lava]

and tbh goblin farm is much easier than to farm 1 level of this stretch goal

[lusty pumice]

But goblins don´t give the items that the caches do!

[elder wasp]

is server really under maintaining now ?

[covert lava]

yeah the point is they decide to give all the loot of the goblin into the stretch goal loot

[eager talon]

How often did the harvest drop? I missed out on that.

[lusty pumice]

Im still online in the game

[warm rover]

Maybe.

T+3mins

[lusty pumice]

Aaaaah! Okay thank you for that info, i did not know that!

[covert lava]

so the loot pool so diluted

[oak spear]

God I hope they fix the drop rates. I'm at tier 188 and just had the last 10 caches give no bonus loot. Still no Lexington 🥲

[covert lava]

just 188 dude, we have many 250+ with more than 20 no bonus caches streak

[lusty pumice]

That is an understatement! HAHAHA

[cinder dune]

yoo wsg

[warm rover]

Maint 5 mins late

[cinder dune]

the secret to winning is to not play at all

[oak spear]

Point being it's a terrible drop rate. I understand people have it worse than me. Hopefully they do something though I highly doubt it.

[cinder dune]

u end up being happier in the end

[oak spear]

Lol you might be right

[noble owl]

Down

[warm rover]

Server down

[lusty pumice]

Now the servers is going down!

[covert lava]

man imagine having got 6 handbasket with 0 lexington while sitting on 252 season level driving me nut

[fresh moth]

So what do they fix?

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

nobody knows atm

[lusty pumice]

Okay that´s for me guys! Cya later and have fun IRL!

[cinder dune]

tbh theyre probably gonna do another round of lexington and turmoils the more ppl complain about this event, it was all for boosting player activity anyways

[noble owl]

Wait, you got no Lexi? That's like.. one of the common ones. Some people here claim to have gotten 3 already. I've got one and I only opened like... 10 crates of those

[warm rover]

Odd, Char access is still avilable just not game

[tawdry cedar]

it's not that common, I got mine at lvl 176

[covert lava]

yeap that what i got tho, would i said lucky me ?

[noble owl]

I usually open all at once, having them collect dust in my inventory until I get 20/20 crates

[covert lava]

i also got a giveaway from a fellow agent in here, 60 caches total, 0 lexington

[noble owl]

Was there ever a moment or a game where people did NOT complain? I'm happy even if I don't get what I'm after. At least I still get to enjoy the game

[heavy dirge]

so are we having an unannounced maintenance or something else?

[noble owl]

Ouch. "You are the only agent in the world to have been officially blacklisted by ISAC"

[elfin hazel]

unannounced maintenance

[iron gust]

Well Ubi support at least acknowledges there's a maintenance
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/the-division-2/news/the-division-2-maintenance-of-online-services/000114242

Now what's it for 🤔

[elfin hazel]

3 hours on the website 5 hours in game

[cinder dune]

yeah thats kinda the problem with this community, complaining about the shit that doesnt really matter like the determined talent n whatnot

now they dont even bother about this typa shit

[elfin hazel]

down for maintenance should be back up <t:1756211400:R> / <t:1756211400:t> (this is your local time) reason is here

Tom Clancy's The Division (@TheDivisionGame)

#TheDivision2 servers are currently down for maintenance.

Estimated downtime: approximately 4.5 hours.

This update includes backend infrastructure improvements that won’t be visible to players.

We apologize for the lack of prior notice and will let you know once the servers

X · Aug 26, 2025, 8:12 AM

[tranquil maple]

mike01^^ now i know why thx

[remote pecan]

this is the "we want to communicate more with the community and be more transparent about stuff" 😄

[tranquil maple]

Its a new Ubisoft feature!

[half drift]

I’ve got so many caches and not one Lexington lmao

I’m literally burnt

[cinder dune]

atp try to do summit 100 with a group

have someone else drop it

[noble owl]

At least they still perform maintenance to fix certain issues. Be happy that they do. Would be worse if they did nothing

[cinder dune]

it doesnt hit like it did in div 1 💔

[cinder dune]

stash glitch is still here but they did make sure to fix the cache glitch huh

[noble owl]

I am still impressed that they maintain live service for D1. And imo they should. More people play that game, and more people should imo

[heavy dirge]

funny, div1 is an absolute ghost town every time i log in

[molten spire]

live service =/= maintenance mode or keeping it online?

are Div 1 Global Events back on?

[elfin hazel]

they've been back on for a while

[cinder dune]

it still has a lot of replay potential with better graphics imo

[noble owl]

You realize they have small team, right? After launch, a lot were like "we're done, off to another project" whoever's left is keeping the game alive. PVP and DZ is left behind to focus on major issues. So I would presume they are short handed, especially with Survival announcement and new game mode, their focus will be elsewhere

[cinder dune]

plus the grind was more fun

[noble owl]

Global events are back on.

[cinder dune]

i know they have a small team but it still doesnt explain why certain glitches are fixed over others when the ones that are fixed happen to benefit the players

[remote pecan]

I'm happy about that, don't get me wrong. It's just they do the direct opposite of the things they wanted to do in terms of communication and I just make a little fun of it. It doesn't mean I'm 100% serious and I hate them now.
There is a saying in my native language translated to something like Those who suffer damage need not worry about ridicule.

faithful translation would be
The laugh is always on the loser.

[elfin hazel]

ones that "benefit" the players also tend to be gameplay or general game health harming bugs

[cinder dune]

i mean the master mission is still glitched tf out like come on

[noble owl]

Not what I heard few days ago. There's even YouTube videos it's been suggesting me that D1 is slowly getting player base because of the Survival announcement for D2

[blazing citrus]

In before 50 million "whats the maintenance for" messages

[fair dirge]

It's a pity the folks from Massive can't be bothered to post about the maintenance, ideally a wee bit in advance, and definitely in #server-status. Would really be helpful, and I don't feel like it's a huge ask.

[blazing citrus]

Cant have everything unfortunately

[fair dirge]

As a player since Division 1, well aware. 😄

[cinder dune]

yes true, its still annoying that those happen to be the priority over the ones that actually make the game more unplayable

[noble owl]

I already expected to have maintenance. Every time before reset there's maintenance for 5h. I've been hunting down damn fireflies in Assassin Creeds Valhalla every time there's maintenance for 5h in Division 2.

[fair dirge]

It's not always, but yes, it's almost every week.

[noble owl]

Anyhow. How do you get the Shield Wall activated for shields? Is it related to Overcharge?

[cold narwhal]

No it’s maybe omce a month unless they are frequently patching an update

And they always announce it beforehand

[noble owl]

It's been 3rd week in a row. So I'm used to it already

[upbeat umbra]

what is the invaded stronghold this week?

[iron gust]

Maybe something last minute they managed to fix
On the bright side can't be burned out from stretch goals if the game is offline

[autumn fossil]

Is no one going to tell us there is maint ??

[noble owl]

There is maintenance

[autumn fossil]

No official news or anything

[blazing citrus]

Check pins

[remote pecan]

it is really great the found a sustainable solution, but it took them some time
like the TD2 crashes over almost a years time span, so while it is really good they support their games long term, for players it takes too much time, a lot of people lost interest because of that and it is really hard to get that playerbase back once you lost it

[minor silo]

is maintenance still on?

[blazing citrus]

No.

(Check pins)

[minor silo]

my bad

[autumn fossil]

I think we need a pin where it says to check pins

[fair dirge]

Eh, not so bad, since Massive didn't update #news-and-announcements , #server-status or event tweet about it, where you'd see it on #division-tweets . So if a ball was dropped...

[noble owl]

They left D1 behind for D2. Ubisoft does one thing I don't like, and it's not what everyone complains about. AC Valhalla had seasonal events, they removed them to push everyone to new AC. Stopped seasonal events on D1 to push everyone else to D2. They should keep those on auto, macro the damn thing or something

[blazing citrus]

Thry cant support ebery game forever

[zenith rose]

servers are off?

[blazing citrus]

Check pins

[fair dirge]

#td2-general-chat message

[cold narwhal]

The fact that d1 servers are even still running is praiseworthy these days

[noble owl]

If events were working flawlessly, just automate them and be done with it.

[noble owl]

That's what I was saying. The game deserves more recognition.

[cold narwhal]

So they were just straight up lying that it was a technical issue?

[remote pecan]

it's not about supporting them forever, it is what they did now with the global events just rotating ever half a year or so automatically

[blazing citrus]

At the end of the day massive and ubisoft is a company and typically a companies main goal is money.

[noble owl]

Not talking about D2.

[cold narwhal]

I know

Div1 global events weren’t running due to a technical issue

They didn’t prioritize fixing it because why would they

So it took a long time to get fixed

[noble owl]

Every company's goal is money. Just like they say in D1, technology is what's killing the planet, driven by greed, money.

[elfin hazel]

https://fixupx.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1960253984783913298

Tom Clancy's The Division (@TheDivisionGame)

#TheDivision2 servers are currently down for maintenance.
︀︀
︀︀Estimated downtime: approximately 4.5 hours.
︀︀
︀︀This update includes backend infrastructure improvements that won’t be visible to players.
︀︀
︀︀We apologize for the lack of prior notice and will let you know once the servers are back online.
︀︀Thank you for your patience.

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FixupX · Aug 26, 2025, 8:12 AM

[remote pecan]

the events were essential to the games loot, without it it was almost impossible to farm a classified set
and people were just asking for that, the game to be functional

[cold narwhal]

Division general chat is a bad place for philosophical /socioeconomic debates

[elfin hazel]

more so because massive isn't in charge of div1 maintenance it's another team

[pliant sentinel]

drib

[elfin hazel]

hi

[pliant sentinel]

whats ur comfort food

[cold narwhal]

Whatever the case, it’s an old game with a dwindling player base so Im not sure why anyone expected it to get priority attention.

[remote pecan]

why would they? they still sell the game, no?

[elfin hazel]

mac n cheese 🇨🇦

[pliant sentinel]

bet

[cold narwhal]

Chicken rice

[elfin hazel]

you're telling me a chicken salted this

[cold narwhal]

Yeah but its sales are barely a blip on the radar.

[blazing citrus]

Probably beef or chicken stew

[pliant sentinel]

i cant make beef stew at home unfortunately

[cold narwhal]

Why not

[remote pecan]

what even is this chain of reasoning ... it doesn't matter how high the sales are
they sell it, it needs to be functional

[pliant sentinel]

religious reasons

[blazing citrus]

Hmmm. Egg fried rice?

[pliant sentinel]

if i have leftover rice maybe, but im craving mac and bees now that drib mentioned it

[cold narwhal]

It’s corporate reasoning. Maximize profit, reduce expenditure. Why would they devote resources to something that isn’t making them significant money

[remote pecan]

egg fried rice is basically chicken rice 😅 just in an early state

[blazing citrus]

Rice you cooked yesterday
2 eggs
Soy sauce
Chilli oil
Sesame oil
Spring/green onions
Salt
Pepper
Garlic/Garlic paste

[cold narwhal]

Im not defending it. Just stating the reality

I don’t like it either

[pliant sentinel]

i use fishcakes and charsiew in my fried rice

[noble owl]

It's their baby. You don't just abandon it and shut down servers. People get angry and they complain even more. Hate speech and so on. So if they still support the game, be glad they do, if not for your sake, but for the ones that still play the game.

[remote pecan]

there are factors you can't even calculate in terms of money

[cold narwhal]

Not to a corporation there aren’t

[remote pecan]

that's why stop killing games is such a good thing

[tropic sentinel]

With pressure they're getting, doubtful those laws will get passed.

Easier way is to stop buying slop like this.

[remote pecan]

I really don't think so, like marketing there isn't a real projected outcome if you invest like 10 million in marketing, could be worth it or just a waste of money, still they do it

[cold narwhal]

There is absolutely a projected outcome lmao. You think they just wing that?

[blazing citrus]

Theres opposition to SKG?

[remote pecan]

look I'm not saying that if you do marketing, sales won't go up

[cold narwhal]

Im certain publishers are against it

[blazing citrus]

Ah ofc... the publishers

The multi million to multi billion companies

[cold narwhal]

Thats not the point at all. Im not debating the cost effectiveness of marketing here. Im just telling you how a giant corporation operates

[cold narwhal]

Old white guy needs another yacht

[kind viper]

what do you guys play when div2 has maintenance? I'm lookinkg for a new game with my friends but struggling to find anything decent

[blazing citrus]

Grass touching sim irl edition

[cold narwhal]

I dont play anything I just sit in a state of constant anxiety re-trying the connection for 5 hours 🤣

[kind viper]

it's 6:29PM 🙁

[austere vale]

sims, dun awk, or whatever i havent finishe on my steam list

[remote pecan]

d-d-d-don't give me mike-01 again 😅

[blazing citrus]

You heard that pete parsons left bungie. The guy that spent like 24 mill on cars while the company had layoffs

[dusk hull]

Sorry pal

[blazing citrus]

And now they got a new guy thats quoted saying something along the lines of "we shouldnt overdeliver because it increases the expectation for future releases"

[cold narwhal]

Oh man

[hazy ivy]

TBH, I either play with my friends on Playstation, playing the Playstation 2 emulator PCSX2 playing WWE games, either playing games on Steam like Star Wars, Half Life or watch full Michael Jackson concerts

[kind viper]

you guys reckon they're doing cache adjustments?

[kind viper]

MJ concerts is wild

[cold narwhal]

Give customers lower expectations is the most cynical thing ever. God they suck

[bleak marten]

yoo im new here, any filipinos?

[hazy ivy]

There's a lot so I mean hey if the maintenance is long, I'll binge watch. And I'm a diehard Michael Jackson fan

[blazing citrus]

Could be. Could also be them deleting the game. Could also be them giving us hunter powers. Who knows

My guess is either a climax mission fix or stash fix

[eager talon]

"This update includes backend infrastructure improvements that won’t be visible to players."

Feels like, just put in something random to justify the down time 🤣

[kind viper]

i'm sure both would be welcome, i haven't had issues with either but been seeing people talk about it

[remote pecan]

I'm almost certain Climax fix needs a client update.

[fluid meadow]

Would they perchance address recent issues that have risen over the last week?

[empty harbor]

they should let people know about the server status before they shut it down

[gritty salmon]

servers down or my internet trash?? lmk

[hazy ivy]

servers down

[gritty salmon]

damn I gotta find another game to play then

[fluid meadow]

Go frolicking in the morning sun

[errant ember]

when le server back? Been praying for lexington and dreamt that i got it today...

[west bloom]

4.5hrs 🙁

[errant ember]

son of a raging update

[blazing citrus]

Ive had the stash bug a few times but never the climax mission bug

[empty harbor]

the issue here they dont let people know ahead abou this and what a waste of time

the only free time i get

[tropic sentinel]

Maybe they didn't know themselves. What this maintenance is even about?

[fluid meadow]

You could channel that time to something else you value

[hazy ivy]

If you follow them on Twitter, they'll mostly notify about maintenance

[iron gust]

"includes backend infrastructure improvements"

[remote pecan]

tweet was late as well, gets mirrored to discord anyway

[empty harbor]

lol

[eager talon]

99% of the time when I login I get this bug, 100% when switching characters. Its frustrating.

[haughty valve]

Now all summer swarm crates have guaranteed bonus

[errant ember]

stash bug is just need to switch to NY or brooklyn

[north sluice]

Wtb better rng 😂

[fluid meadow]

WTT lexington for all apparel in event

[errant ember]

WTS Will to live for Funny gun

[flint shore]

Any patch? Cant login i get the mike01 error

[errant ember]

server committed sepuku

[barren vortex]

#server-status

[flint shore]

Ok

[empty pumice]

opened 54 summer swarm boxes and got lexington from 51st and 52nd box, f this, I'm too old for this kind of grind

[stable fossil]

mine 60.. guess what.. ZERO

[empty pumice]

nice rng

i think i only got 7 boxes with bonus loot, excluding cosmetic bonuses

[broken cloud]

I got Lexington out of my 1st Box 😁 . never got another one afterwards though 😠

[fluid meadow]

His greed knows no bounds

[blazing citrus]

Ive gotten to pass level 114 and got my lex already

So like... 7 or 8 caches. Idk

[empty pumice]

nice, i would be happy with that one, got Nimble Holster, 2x Chatterbox, Shield Splinterer, Birdie's Quick Fix, 2 lexingtons

[pliant sentinel]

i still havent gotten any bonuses other than the apparel

[blazing citrus]

Hit the 0.071% and got birdies bag 🥲

[fluid meadow]

Lucky
For me it's chatterbox or no reward at all

[verbal patio]

first hour without td2, feel very bad 😭

[thorny creek]

the rng is really weird, 15 caches for only 5 apparel items, and took me 30 caches to get all 12 items

[pallid walrus]

i cant play td2

[thorny creek]

I guess I am just that unlucky for no additional items for 10 caches in a roll

[pallid walrus]

you too boys?

[thorny creek]

its in maintenance

[verbal patio]

bro i have 240lvl battlepass and got nothing xd

[thorny creek]

check the #division-tweets

bro I just want all the apparel items, but 60 levels are such a pain to grind with all the strongholds

especially the Manning ZOO

[pallid walrus]

5h is not play?

[verbal patio]

i hate this

[thorny creek]

yeah, the game is down for 5 hours, still 3 hrs to go

[thorny creek]

its such a long mission in all the modes: invaded, story, manhunt

[verbal patio]

i guess 13-15 mins like others strongholds?

but this mission make me feel like its 10h

[undone timber]

It's a fair bit longer than capitol or DUA

[smoky moth]

Is there maintenance going on rn? cant log in

[verbal patio]

yep

#server-status

[raven yarrow]

rip i just clicked start game

what do i play now T-T

oh wait nvm im in

[wise peak]

Uhhh I’m able to still play despite the maintenance?

I don’t know how but I’m on

[tropic sentinel]

Possible it's for PC.

[rose juniper]

its server side maintence so by right on all platform, not sure why you manage to log in

[fiery barn]

i'm on ps and also just logged in

[cyan tartan]

pc game is online

[wise peak]

Yeah but I’m console and yet I’m still logged on.

[rose juniper]

maybe maintence over?

[tropic sentinel]

Well if maintenance is for PC then it would make sense.

[lusty pumice]

WTF! I play on PC and i just logged in!

[cyan tartan]

i am in the game

[hidden igloo]

its up

[fresh moth]

oh

i can login

[lusty pumice]

Jepp just log in and play! HAHAHAHAHA

[tropic sentinel]

Damn, they've ruined the break for everyone.

[fluid meadow]

No grass break 😔

[lusty pumice]

What break??

[wise peak]

A break to go and touch grass.

[iron gust]

People were F5ing the game 💀

[verbal patio]

haters will say ubisoft is bad, but they speedrun maintenance for us

[lusty pumice]

Aaaaah that break!

[fluid meadow]

Nah cause being at the login screen under maintenance and spamming that button is serious dedication

[wise peak]

That was a very quick maintenance.

[lusty pumice]

Yes it was!

[tropic sentinel]

Probably they ran out of coffee.

[fluid meadow]

I like to imagine it's still under maintenance but something broke and let players in

[lusty pumice]

🤣 🤣

[fresh moth]

no bundle?

[verbal patio]

u can buy kredits without any reason

[kind viper]

so we all just back in now?

[north night]

I’m on

[verbal patio]

nahh they didnt give me turmoil

[rose juniper]

nah server not working still

u can login and do some stuff but it will froze after a while

[lusty pumice]

Not for me!

[rose juniper]

high chance this could be it

[rose juniper]

damn nice. i try login and play to do some tidal basin run. it froze at the destroy heli section

[raven yarrow]

welp im stuck in campaign mission, server stopped responding so im just walking in the last area and cant pick up anything xD

[rose juniper]

like my character can roam n such but any interaction not registering (enemy dmg etc)

[rose juniper]

same

[raven yarrow]

oops

my mission got rolled back xD now i have to unlock castle settlement all over again

imma stop playing forn ow

[iron gust]

They just said maintenance is over so

[rose juniper]

i think they properly just finished. hence the rollback some experiencing

[lusty pumice]

Any one know´s what they did NOT fix??

[tender wave]

it was only server maintenance, they didn't fix any bugs if that's what you mean

[blazing citrus]

Do named items have a defined drop % or just rng? Like in general. I dont mean from the summer stretch caches

[lusty pumice]

That´s what i did mean! Heh

[rough sun]

So no change at all? No drop rate buff or anything

[tender wave]

nope

[lusty pumice]

So Ubisoft wants us to grind so that we all bleed blood from our asses! 😠

[delicate whale]

Genuinely not surprised that they've ignored this issue.

[iron gust]

It most likely can't be addressed without a client patch

If that's the case it won't be changed

[rough sun]

Okay, so nothing change, drop rate suck and tinkerer still bug

[dark wolf]

Player base finna drop like a mf

[lusty pumice]

So lets do some math! My good friend did the paradise lost mission two times and he got his Ouroborous times two! Me got that same weapon after about 1000+ caches last time there was this season level event!

[delicate whale]

What is it with games with outrageous loot rng ?

[lusty pumice]

So i say its faster to get them weapons on raids than from this event!

[hot ruin]

Another day, another series of RNG complaints 🤠

[lusty pumice]

So this event is a BIG freaking joke!

[delicate whale]

What do you expect when the rng is more predatory than gambling

[lusty pumice]

Then why even have these events?? 🤔

[delicate whale]

To bait people into buying the season pass and then inflate numbers because people are endlessly grinding.

[tender wave]

It's just something to do at the end of the season. See it as a bonus, you might get something good but there's no point in fixating on a specific thing, you'll just burn yourself out.

[iron gust]

Tbf we didn't ask for them
Devs like fomo tactics

[tender wave]

but yeah, we've had a LOT of unhappy people about the drop rates over the last week, this conversation has been done over and over again on a daily basis.

[delicate whale]

And this is why gaming companies get away with pulling stuff like this. They have people to cope for them

[dull frigate]

Since based onthe venturebeats article, they were 5 dev, perhaps they are now all in holiday hence no change in the dop rate for us

[lusty pumice]

And the sad thing is that this happens in every game! Sooner or later!

[delicate whale]

That is stupid to believe

A triple A gaming studio only having 5 developers for a live service game and they are all on holiday at the same time?

[crimson sand]

If you focus only on the stretch goals you will end up miserable . Just play as you normally would and let the caches happen.

[tender wave]

given they literally had a maintenance today, it's unlikely they're all away on holiday

[kind viper]

i'm in a queue after finishing a countdown

[delicate whale]

Sure if only it wasn't a time limited event with FOMO involved with predatory levels of rng.

[dull frigate]

sorry it was inside gaming https://insider-gaming.com/the-division-2-saved-by-team-five-developers-ubisoft/
, perhaps I'm blind but where can I read the entire patch note for this maintenance? I just cant find it

[tender wave]

People have expressed their anger, over and over again all week. But it's unhealthy (literally) to be focused on things that make you angry all the time, and it won't change anything at this point, so might as well take a more cheerful approach and do your blood pressure a favour.

[tender wave]

no patch, just server maintenance: #division-tweets message

[lusty pumice]

I have meds for my blood pressure, so no worries! 🤣

[delicate whale]

Are you high?

[tender wave]

ok, so that 'five devs' thing was back at the end of season 4, years ago - they repeated the first 4 seasons a second time while training up new staff and restarting new content - it's a much bigger team these days.

[lusty pumice]

No he is not high, he is only worried about our health! Heh!

[crimson sand]

It’s 3 weeks , and to be fair the gun isn’t game changing . It’s a named item without a perfect talent . If you have a good St.Elmos you will barely notice a difference.

[delicate whale]

?

[tender wave]

I'm not high, I just don't like seeing people make themselves miserable for no meaningful purpose. It drags down everyone.
They know people are angry about the drop rates, they will likely improve them at the end of next season when the stretch goals come around again, so further anger at this point isn't going to create any additional change, it's just meaningless negativity.

[lusty pumice]

HAHAHA! You wanna hear something funny??

[iron gust]

If anyone is expecting drop buffs the next two weeks it will most likely NOT happen
So either don't play or play more casually so you don't burn out

[weary owl]

Wow I'm ina queue havent seen that in years

[delicate whale]

What's stopping them from just improving the drop rates now?

They also could like you know not have done this predatory level of rng in the first place

[lusty pumice]

I was looking to my gear what i can improve. And i started to go like this "hmmm if i change this xx stat then i get xx of this however................" and in that poit my wife said to me "PLEASE do that in your head i cant with you mumbeling like that"!! HAHAHAHA

[iron gust]

A client patch, which eats up resources and time for work on the new season

If they're smart they'll just grant Lexington and turmoil to everyone at some point
Let's hope they do that

[delicate whale]

Ah yes, the "The players will just suck it up" attitude.

[dull cypress]

a lot of time talking could be used for grinding tbh

[iron gust]

Vote with your wallet

[wraith locust]

Nah let em vent, since they clearly aren’t committed

[delicate whale]

Committed to what? slurping up this ridiculous rng?

[opaque lion]

the game sent me to the European server

[errant ember]

900 in queue... what with all these bots

[wraith locust]

No committed to war thunder

[opaque lion]

is it actually the only one open or what lol

[iron gust]

700 in queue after leaving descent

[eager talon]

What queue, like returning to DC?

[iron gust]

Yep

[kind viper]

yer i got into a queue after finishing a countdown

[eager talon]

I am surprise to hear there is still a queue, I havent seen one since the game first came out.

[grizzled sorrel]

same

[lusty pumice]

I hade to que two times today!

[wraith locust]

Commit your soul to the immortal snail

[delicate whale]

You wasn't funny the first time, you think you was funnier the second time?

[wraith locust]

Nah I find this funny, cause you’re still here

[hot ruin]

Make a ham sandwich and take a walk. You're not you when you're hungry

[lusty pumice]

HAHAHAHA! It´s "take i snicker´s"!!!!

[delicate whale]

Then you're the perfect ubisoft player

[wraith locust]

Yup he’s still here

[delicate whale]

You should apply to be a mod

[wraith locust]

When he could be grinding away

[opaque lion]

can they just extend the maintenance

[lusty pumice]

OMG position on the que 1282

[hollow zephyr]

i m in quze 1395 are they serious

[thin oasis]

Probably would have gotten a Lex by now of you'd been grinding 😁

[lusty pumice]

😆

[opaque lion]

what's the point of ending it early if the servers aren't even yet ready for it

[wraith locust]

That’s what I’m thinking

[undone timber]

A maintenance finishing 2 hours early in this economy is bonkers

[delicate whale]

This isn't about the lexington at all. This is about the predatory rng nature of the whole event

[lusty pumice]

This!!!

[wraith locust]

That’s because u didn’t give em money

[opaque lion]

idk about predatory, that was last time when you could buy levels after 100

[hot ruin]

and youve made your point very clear. youre acting like the stuff youre continuing to say is new info, its not

[delicate whale]

And I'll keep making the point until it changes

[hazy ivy]

And RNG happens in these type of games dude. Been going since Warcraft came out

[opaque lion]

people bought levels and didn't even get raid exotics

[thin oasis]

Higher blood pressure than season level 🤣

[lusty pumice]

🤣

[hot ruin]

what do you think we're going to do about it? this discord has the power to change nothing lol

[fringe crow]

When we will receive the gamescon merch in game??????

[blazing citrus]

Pretty sure you cant buy stretch goal levels ._.

[wraith locust]

What point

[opaque lion]

the first time this was introduced last season you can and they disabled it

[blazing citrus]

Good

[opaque lion]

for obvious reasons

[delicate whale]

Because it's probably illegal

[wraith locust]

Nahhh

[elfin hazel]

????

[opaque lion]

huh

[wraith locust]

It takes the fun out of the game lol

[elfin hazel]

it was disabled because it was an oversight I think you'd be hard pressed to find a law that says no you cannot buy levels in an event

[delicate whale]

Loot box laws

[elfin hazel]

loot boxes still exist in games and you can still buy them

[blazing citrus]

[elfin hazel]

I think you overestimate what those actually do or how many there actually are

[wraith locust]

And the grind you must hit in order to obtain em

[opaque lion]

i would agree that the rng is bad but to say it's predatory and illegal is kinda taking it too far lol

[wraith locust]

Agreed

[blazing citrus]

Just factually incorrect. Not "taking it too far"

[prime atlas]

They should fix rng rates after maintenance

[delicate whale]

A chance to get a chest then roll the dice on loot pool then roll another dice on piece of loot with 1 item in each pool being having a inflated chance of dropping lowering all the chance for other items to drop - This is predatory

[iron adder]

Server is crapping itself

[elfin hazel]

predatory is exaggerating it's only taking time away from you which in that case just playing the game would be predatory 😭

[elfin hazel]

do you know what predatory means

[delicate whale]

Yes I do

[golden sapphire]

Is this ongoing apparels event season pass only or free for all?

[blazing citrus]

Its like that guy that says inconceivable

[iron gust]

Free for all once you hit level 100 in the season pass

[slate lion]

Its not predatory that is a silly comment. Ubi wants your engagement. Time in game and repeated log in are stats in the corporate reports.

[wraith locust]

Shall I get the dictionary?

[golden sapphire]

Thought so, thank you!

[elfin hazel]

I'd love to know what the event is trying to take from us then other than time

[crimson sand]

Saying hello from 1357 in line to login lmao

[opaque lion]

i'd just come back tomorrow, last time this happened it took a day or two for the servers to be even usable

[elfin hazel]

I'd love to know how they're preying upon me and what for because all I can think of is time and a player count 1 higher which in that case shit every game ever is predatory

[undone timber]

The bait is not worth😔

[fathom willow]

bump up the named weapon chance, the raid exotics should be rare af tho cuz like, you can just get it thru raid like a good little agent

[hot ruin]

aha, trying ye olde "get out of line so i can get in" tactic. not gonna work on me 🤠

[elfin hazel]

atp with every argument thats happened during this event I think all bets are off when it comes to what is and isn't bait

[wraith locust]

It worked for me

[undone timber]

Pretend you don't care and you'll magically jump to top of queue

[wraith locust]

Yall can have my spot in the queue…. The US servers ha ha

[eager talon]

I am on asia and there is a queue 1669

[opaque lion]

i'd just do something else while it's still a hassle to even just get into the game

[opaque lion]

you're going to the European server either way

[slate lion]

I am in uk and got a us server. Just trying the find a better server option

[dull cypress]

average day in here honestly

[delicate whale]

It's predatory because you have to spend an unreasonable amount of time playing to obtain items.

[elfin hazel]

that's not predatory that's just bad luck & drop chances

[fathom willow]

this tends to happen

[opaque lion]

people who play MMOs:

[dull cypress]

dude it’s so easy just be lucky?

[elfin hazel]

if unreasonable amount of time is predatory then the whole game and genre of looter shooters is probably not for you

it's the worst part of it but it's also the name of the game

[delicate whale]

Then you're part of the problem

[fathom willow]

"i will get the raid exotic asap because i am special"

[wraith locust]

That grinding for you, welcome to the life of a gamer

[elfin hazel]

if you say so

[delicate whale]

I do

[dull cypress]

its okay some people just arent built for the grind man

[hazy ivy]

Lord help this poor boy

[lilac crow]

man.. I feel like division needs an exotics rework. So many exotics are either useless or fills a particular niche but doesn't complete with the hard hitting favorites.

[hollow hill]

What drib is trying to say is that the grind hasn't changed for division 2 in 7 years. However, I see your point. The drop chances for the event is really bad. They could be better, to reward us a bit better for our time

[wraith locust]

Yup. Mainly the 9-5ers like me

[dull cypress]

finally some actual discourse

[alpine lantern]

position in queue 795 and not changing..

[dawn vale]

I dunno, but at 250+ stretch level and no Lex is kinda BS

[elfin hazel]

13% PFE mods would be even more predatory than this event by this logic 😭

[opaque lion]

they're kinda fixing em every season, first the LMGs being randomly broken now the Backfire being viable

[dull cypress]

been playing since beta and still havent seen any

[delicate whale]

This comment is ignorant as it shows you don't understand the current droprates

[lilac crow]

I hope that is true

[hollow hill]

@delicate whale ^ this. You guys aren't the first to be saying this. I nearly got banned here for sharing this input till exhaustion

[elfin hazel]

they're both horrifically low drop chances one of which you call predatory as it takes an "unreasonable" amount of time to grind for

[hollow hill]

It's part of the excessive "negativity" rule

[elfin hazel]

being passive aggressive about it doesn't really help your case

[elfin hazel]

bring back the pesti fart cloud !!

[delicate whale]

Are PFE mods timegated?

[dull cypress]

bros still going

[delicate whale]

As in they only drop during limited timed events

[kind veldt]

Is this the only time they will add lexington back?

[elfin hazel]

no and neither is this event really as it seems likely that it'll be a thing for each season for the last 3-4 weeks of it

[kind veldt]

Can you see the future to claim that?

[lilac crow]

I ain't complaining about the drop chances. I just got ridgeway's pride from cache yesterday and I know what a pain it is to get that normally lol. If they were to giveaway rare exotics like candies, it would beat the purpose. I don't mind a little extra chance for named items though

[hot ruin]

you need food and a walk brother im telling you, itll help

[delicate whale]

You know what limited timed events and timegating means right?

[kind veldt]

Yes, so answer my question first

[delicate whale]

The comparison used was PFE mods which dare not time gated. The point is predatory rng on timed gated FOMO event and for the third time this isn't about the lexington.

[blazing citrus]

Yes. The event is available for a limited amount of time. Like most games. Warframe with their vault, genshin with their banners, and the list goes on

[fathom willow]

its about the caretaker!! please god help me!!

[dull cypress]

now that's something you dont see everyday

[kind veldt]

Well my point we had 0 event items never coming back for another shot

[elfin hazel]

the devs seem pretty enthusiastic about bringing this event back each season

[lilac crow]

live service games thrive on a bit of fomo.

[kind veldt]

I mean, i dont see people crying for snow kneepads

[elfin hazel]

if anything its the anti fomo event now with lex, turmoil and caretaker coming back

[hot ruin]

im crying, just inside

[kind veldt]

People can be unhappy about the rates and thats feedback

[lilac crow]

indeed

[delicate whale]

So that makes the current RNG acceptable? you get 3 weeks what 4 times a year to farm abysmal drop rates. yay!

[elfin hazel]

I think the only fomo in the game now is like pre order bonuses (both for the game dlc & other games preorders) lexington skins and some old apparel events that havent returned yet with their completion rewards

[opaque lion]

came back for a bit to test it out and im 4 in the queue... and the game sent me to Australia

[elfin hazel]

have fun with rivens

[kind veldt]

Read my follow up comment about people can give feedback about the rates

[dull cypress]

that WONY shotgun for sure needs to comeback

[elfin hazel]

again still not predatory just bad balancing with the drop rates

WoNY shotgun should 100% come back

[undone timber]

Praying for an enforcer🙏

[lilac crow]

what is the name of the wony shotgun?

[delicate whale]

I read it. So why hasn't it been changed?

[undone timber]

Perfect pummel super 90 sounds bliss

[undone timber]

The Enforcer

[kind veldt]

You think its instantaneous?

[undone timber]

Unfortunately it's like spec weapons and like fixed and it's missing a third attribute

[fathom willow]

do you guys think manny is done debriefing with schaeffer...

[elfin hazel]

he has been for a while

[undone timber]

But still 2 kills for a refill on the super 90

[dull cypress]

he's been done for awhile now

[delicate whale]

It's been a week and tweaking drop rate numbers isn't that hard.

[opaque lion]

it's basically Dark Winter but for Shotguns

[kind veldt]

They are still working on fixing manhunt boss for example and they learned that day 1

[undone timber]

The six12 absolutely dominated for a while but I believe it's back to pumps and the acs12 for a while

[kind veldt]

Would avoid saying that unless you are secretly massive dev to be able to claim that

[delicate whale]

Well I can assure you I am in a position that I can say that

[blazing citrus]

My usual response:

Join the massive dev team if its that easy

[undone timber]

At the end of the day we're here to enjoy the game and impart knowledge and allat

[dull cypress]

woah mr gamedev over here

[undone timber]

Best thing to do if you don't agree with something is take it up with people who can do something about it, not complain here

[kind veldt]

Can you actually prove you are a massive dev?

[delicate whale]

Not without doxing myself no

[dull cypress]

LMAO

[undone timber]

Wrap it up boys it's over

[elfin hazel]

one would think your name would be blue.........

[dull cypress]

go fix the drop rates then??

[elfin hazel]

or even in the ubisoft official discord 😭

[kind veldt]

Then you understand i cant take random words from someone in the internet about that as truth

[blazing citrus]

So its easy to do, they claim they could fix it and is here complaining that massive (potentially themselves) arent fixing it quick enough

[hollow hill]

Yes. The devs need some damn help. GO JOIN Y'ALL

[elfin hazel]

they're actually not hiring right now

[slate lion]

I think you will find they have hired devs but prior to that there was funding issue at corp level

[dull cypress]

apply for ETF instead!!

[frank rover]

Who broke the servers again?

[delicate whale]

And you believe it to be that complicated to change? What are your credentials?

[blazing citrus]

Blood/Joe

[blissful lagoon]

is ubi launcher server down?

[undone timber]

Smith, John, MSV dev

[hollow hill]

My guy, Yannick and April and all them are online... Just give them a DM?

[undone timber]

Plz no

[elfin hazel]

I don't personally believe it'd be that hard but I also wouldn't say that it's easy better to stay silent and be thought a fool n all that

[kind veldt]

I claimed to not know the issue, you claimed to know, i asked if proof was possible for you know by being a dev of this game, you said it would be doxxing yourself to prove.
No i don want you to doxx yourself, but then you would the alternatives ways to contact me of you were on massive so...

[dull cypress]

lmao

[hollow hill]

I don't recommend doing so bc it's likely against the rules but if you really wanna make some noise, go DM them

[wraith locust]

Oooooooooo, someone is gonna get beaned

Awwww I missed the bean

[hollow hill]

🫘

[dull cypress]

i can see why you got warned

[blazing citrus]

"Surgery cant be that hard. Just do it. 🤔"

[hollow hill]

Nah, I got threatened actually, then told to quite literally shut up

[wraith locust]

💀

[elfin hazel]

again being passive aggressive about it doesn't help your case

[dull cypress]

i can see why

[blazing citrus]

Lets just leave it at: none of us are developers of the game so we cannot make claims to how easy or hard it is to patch different issues.

[delicate whale]

Please don't move goalposts. You alluded that I should avoid saying that tweaking drop rate numbers isn't that hard unless I was secretly a massive dev to be able to claim that. While I'm not a "massive dev" I do know it's not difficult or time consuming to alter drop rates.

[kind veldt]

And thoughts of what people think of the rates is being passsed on and definetly not being quiet about it

[dull cypress]

how dare you come up with a logical statement so quickly

[hollow hill]

Eh, I can't be the worse that's crawled thru here. At least I gave feedback into what's currently the issues we are facing, what can be done to fix them, etc. But the mods are right. They always were. Crying about it doesn't get us anywhere. Personally, silencing doesn't work either, but instead of flooding a chat, we can either choose that it's worth playing or it's not. And I'm sure I speak for loads here that rn the stretch goals just aren't worth it. However, if people are gonna keep grinding, that's a choice THEY made. Not the devs, not the mods, just them

[blazing citrus]

You shouldnt unless youre on the massive dev team.

[hot ruin]

im sorry but i will not be silent about these PREDATORY, ILLEGAL, and frankly MURDEROUS drop rates

[blazing citrus]

Logic? Whos she?

[dull cypress]

these drop rates robbed my house

[hot ruin]

my dad went to get milk and he never came back. the drop rates got him

[undone timber]

In any case the conversation is going round in circles so best to let sleeping dogs lie

[dawn vale]

The drop rates are just shit period, end of story, predatory or not

[blazing citrus]

How do yall think the next season will end?

[dull cypress]

so yeah back to exotics that need a rework or a buff
Sacrum Imperium/Vindicator PLEASE

[hollow hill]

If it was illegal, the game would've been met with a major shutdown

[hollow hill]

This ^

[delicate whale]

He's taking what I said out of context

[hollow hill]

Clearly 😂😭

[dull cypress]

no way

[undone timber]

Get my boy overlord in there 🙏

[dull cypress]

Overlord with it's sick design and terrible talent

[opaque lion]

some exotics literally has effects that's worse than high end talents

[blazing citrus]

Imagine a ongoing directive rework but its random weapon ammo.

[undone timber]

Like yes crippling bullets very cool but it needs something else

[dull cypress]

please OD does not need a rework i love my bleed bullets

[kind veldt]

Reassigned chestpiece or whatever that talent is

[blazing citrus]

Or another gearset

[haughty valve]

I just made an ongoing directive / tinkerer setup with LMGs, giving everyone in countdown hollow points to shred everything

[undone timber]

OD is in a good spot as is rn

[hollow hill]

Reassigned but as a gearset:

[kind veldt]

Not sure if you played the original OD also

[dull cypress]

does anyone use dread edict is that still a real exotic

[blazing citrus]

OD is one of my favorite team support build

[kind veldt]

Which was just reassigned

[undone timber]

It's very good imo but very underrated

Main thing holding it back is the scope tbh

[hollow hill]

I actually do, on my hotshot build for "oh shit" moments. Spam head, reload, breath of life

[delicate whale]

If you care to know, someone said you could buy season pass levels. That then got corrected to you could buy season levels last season but was stopped.
I said "Because it's probably illegal" bringing up lootbox laws as I'm not a lawyer but my understanding is if something is considered a lootbox within the EU you need to post ACTUAL drop changes of each item, not this fluff post that Ubisoft did.

[kind veldt]

Primary, secondary and pistol would get a random special ammo

[opaque lion]

Dread Eddict and Mantis are may gotos

[dull cypress]

dread edict players that's very surprising to hear honestly

[undone timber]

Have you seen the talent it's so loaded

Mantis is also very good but severely underrated

[opaque lion]

Determined kinda bores me, also the armor break

[dull cypress]

honestly I couldn't remember what the talent was its just been in the stash for years

[kind veldt]

Snipers exotics are in a weird spot vs determined

[undone timber]

In fact every exotic sniper except sacrum is great in their own right but determined rotted everyone's brains

[hollow hill]

I remember that. I even called it, the devs will overlook that ability. And they did. It took them a decent amount of time to see that people were paying real money for drop chances for a raid exotic. Alot of times, the devs overlook basic design flaws

[dull cypress]

loved the mantis so much with the decoy

[opaque lion]

i think they will incorporate Determined into the Specialization if it gets worse tbh

[undone timber]

Basically headshots build stacks of weapon damage, headshot damage and bonus armour and headshot kills refill your mag

[kind veldt]

It only works once every 60s

[undone timber]

Reloads grant the stacked bonus armour

[dull cypress]

oh so hotshot but gun

[undone timber]

In essence yes

[blazing citrus]

Determined on shotguns when 🤔 🥲

[undone timber]

Plz no

[hollow hill]

PC cheaters anyways:

[dull cypress]

just HF with headhunter

[opaque lion]

i think there's a headshot shotgun build out there

[hollow hill]

HHF

[blazing citrus]

Headhunters fury 🙏

300

[dull cypress]

time to look for a tinkerer HHF build

[distant zodiac]

no european servers?

[opaque lion]

brother IM getting sent to European servers, we might be getting swapped by the game

[lilac crow]

why does everyone run strikers in countdown? it's not that difficult to kill and you run around most the time so stacks decay more than it builds right?

[distant zodiac]

im on us west lmao instead of europe

[opaque lion]

in my 3rd login im finally home

not in Europe or Australia

[blazing citrus]

Afaik in countdown enemies have significantly more health than enemies elsewhere on the same difficulty and its not too hard to build stacks

[hot ruin]

because its an 8 player activity

[opaque lion]

i think it's because of Hunters

or they don't have other builds

[lilac crow]

yeah I have noticed they are bit more tanky. But I don't see how strikers help when everyones shooting and running around

[blazing citrus]

Its meta damage build. People gonna use whats best

[unreal perch]

Nd easy to have

[dull cypress]

the real endgame: fashion

[hollow hill]

I'm so tired of that apparel bug

[opaque lion]

well, technically dyes are not easy to get rid off

so it's realistic

[slate lion]

Or revenue stream, whatever cosmetic that might be

[dawn vale]

Anyone notice what they did to the SHD cache project... cheap bastards...

[hollow hill]

You missed the entire debate here earlier. Not to throw a dead horse around but 💀💀💀

[dull cypress]

just itching for more hunter cosmetics (like actual bulky ones) or even Boomer from the CN version

[lilac crow]

seriously.. why dont they have open all cache button. My buddy has 70+ apparel caaches and is too lazy to open them one by one 💩

[dull cypress]

glad to be on PC where I can just open and spam Q,E to skip the animations

[kind veldt]

From what i remember a dev saying on stream is because of how server check content of each one individually, probably saw it take moment sometime

[lilac crow]

I actually received 2 lexingtons perfectly rolled in first 5 or 10 caches but nothing since then

[hollow hill]

Kinda sorta. And @lilac crow they drop that way

[lilac crow]

yeah I'm glad I didn't donate them

[delicate whale]

Lexington always comes perfectly rolled

[hollow hill]

To sum it up: players aren't happy with the drop chances. I myself have put plenty of input into this debacle. It's not gonna change, devs won't change it, and wasting our breath here is not getting us anywhere. Do we all agree with the drop chances? No. Is it worth fighting over? No. At least we got the items back. They could've said (the devs) "lol too bad, you missed it, you missed it"

The main argument being "is it worth our time?"... Answer, depends on the person. Depends on their life. Most don't have the time to grind bc well, we have lives. Even I do and don't think it's worth the grind. But am I gonna do it anyways? You bet. Why? Bc I love this game. I feel this is a realistic attitude to have