td2-general-chat

[dusk jackal]

Man all that season missions just to || rescue some cat person from someone who stole Theo Parnell’s tech||

[jagged prism]

ah, then 20 seconds of 25% damage feels too little of a time to experience the goodness of that exotic pistol

now if they put in, your next magazine reload will be 25% damage i'd probably love the pistol O_O

[lethal torrent]

wtf, did the fn mission for the mask and the last guy was invisible, unkillable!

[low lily]

It just works 😁

[blazing citrus]

Ive seen a few alternate talents people have mentioned

[grim rain]

When does triple XP end?

[jagged prism]

they show that in the events menu something like x days, y hours

[hybrid ore]

@grim rain Heads up: it's just for your Season Pass, not SHD XP.
it should end on the 19th, when the Stretch Goals start.

[cyan musk]

I just killed keiko again and got so excited bc she dropped an exotic and it was the btsu data gloves

[jagged prism]

won't get the mask guaranteed if you don't do the master difficulty mission version, but yeah the normal to heroic has a chance too but much smaller

[cyan musk]

I literally cannot get past the front gate of master mode without dying

[jagged prism]

hopefully you didn't get my bs, killed the boss, traps were still on the field and killed me then it was bugged from there on

[cyan musk]

I tried for like 2 hours

[jagged prism]

killed her for a second time and it just sat there telling me to kill them but nothing was happening so i just oxidized myself and tried a few more times and gave up

queue for master difficulty or find a group here to take you through

[violet canyon]

servers just crashed again, sweet lol

[rain canopy]

Nah there is 3x XP event I've been getting hella watch levels

[lunar hare]

wrong rivens, it's a 3xXP event for SHD levels

fu... forgot to turn off the @

[thin oasis]

That's a woman....but yes it's well known

[thin oasis]

I made the same mistake earlier.

Its x3 xp, not season xp

[lunar hare]

you shouldn't trust AI when they answer questions

[grim rain]

Yeah same here. Over a million XP and I’m only playing on challenging mode lol

[thin oasis]

So we shouldn't listen to Rivens.

Got it

[lunar hare]

in simpler words

[blazing citrus]

I mean... alot of the time they do tell you to verify the information and not to trust it for vital information

[slate lion]

Solo?

[jagged prism]

sounds like it

[lapis grotto]

To the guy who said I should just finish the nemesis quest to build it….i want you to know i need one more piece and then the BP🧍🏾‍♂️and i do NOT want to wait another week 🙂

I’m getting someone to drop that mf forget an alt I need my sniper 😞

[reef reef]

its either run a bunch of whatever mission happens to be sniper focused and pull your hair out with RNG or wait a few weeks and get it that way

[lapis grotto]

I don’t got the BP yet but if it does drop for me from RNG I will be more then grateful

[reef reef]

thing is, the parts wont drop like that, they'll only ever drop from their specific places

but someone else could randomly drop the nemesis itself and drop it for you but thats rarity upon rarity

[spare cove]

||He's the logistics manager for Sokolov Concern. That's a pretty big deal.||

Story discussions are in #division-universe

[keen pecan]

anyone know what to do when your doing masters and you reach the recover the intel part but you cant interact with it (Besides resetting)

[lapis grotto]

Yea the last part I need is the barrel and then the bp but I heard I need the bp to have the nemesis in my loot pool but I get bp from invasion GWH and that wont happen for awhile apparently

[languid bay]

You need to be on PC for the PTS?

[spare cove]

Yes

[vapid turtle]

Shields get destroyed in pvp. Don't see the issue. I dont pvp anymore, so I cant provide any more knowledge on that matter

[blazing citrus]

Ive seen people mention that lexington will drop with max stats when stretch goals drops. Is that written anywhere or just word of mouth?

[graceful blaze]

yep master mission 3 times so far and encountered invisible enemies, when we killed her it just did nothing once and kept shooting another time. so frustrating

[vapid turtle]

Devs stated that in stream

[spare cove]

Devs confirmed it on stream

[jaunty haven]

doess it come with dtoc standard?

[spare cove]

Yes

[blazing citrus]

So any roll is a groll 🙏

Imma grab like 3 (if rnjesus permits)

[frozen relic]

it will be with 15% ar damage 21% health damage and 10% dttoc

[vagrant pecan]

So that new MMr that showed

[blazing citrus]

Tyty

[jagged prism]

will be an exotic component to me honestly after obtaining one for stash in case they change it down the road. sounds like it'll tie in with their new mechanic and beyond that will be nothing but a normal m700 with a talent that does jack for damage maybe?

[frozen relic]

might just be good for rogues if it lets you oneshot one on heroic with focus

[kind veldt]

isnt 125% amp damage a whole lot?

[blazing citrus]

🤔

I dont do the maths but it would seem so

[vagrant pecan]

Eh, true
If they up the damage, to 200
Maybe it'll be worth to replace my headhunter m700
Although the new gearset is interesting

[fleet prism]

why cant we have LEGENDARY world map? is that too much to ask?

[frozen relic]

the brandset belongs in the trash tbh

[frozen relic]

it dont make sense for white tusk to take over everything

[jagged prism]

Named Chest Piece “Sleight” – Talent “Perfect Protected Reload”

Grants +40% bonus armor while reloading.

Grants 0-30% of your armor as bonus armor to all other allies when they are reloading, based on your Blue core attribute.
this could make for some intersting combinations for bonus armor if you have one using this chest another using pointman could provide an immense amount of bonus armor?

[fleet prism]

all Factions not white tusk.

[blazing citrus]

I doubt there would even be enough white tusk make taking over dc make sense story wise

[blazing citrus]

Afaik theres never been another faction in legendary missions idk why theyd change it now

[fleet prism]

ALL FACTIONS not white tusk. a legendary map with the other factions

[blazing citrus]

See 2nd message 🙏

[frozen relic]

let us have a difficulty like master in open world

[fleet prism]

game too easy then.... 🙁

then again game is made for me anymore

[vagrant pecan]

Solo the incursion

[jagged prism]

well, currently legendary missions are only white tusks, so legendary open world would literally be white tusk everywhere for lazy coding wise

[fleet prism]

Duo it already.. incursion is boring now

[blazing citrus]

Maybe if they let us have the new mode/activity (i already forgor the name) as legendary and the white tusk just take over that area it would make more sense

[fleet prism]

solo not worth my time really. someone so simple minded that didnt catch the joke.. (cant solo) there soft cookie explained,

bro is so simple im asking for all factions why do i keep getting the same BOT white tusk answer.. im asking for thedevs to change up a bit heroric is too easy when you have everything maxed out

[blazing citrus]

My fren... when you think legendary you think white tusk. Not cleaners or hyenas or rikers or....

[vital cave]

Hey there isn’t a blueprint for the new mask?

[jagged prism]

same bot......
i did mention "LAZY CODING WISE" woudl be white tusk in the open world. bot can't read apparently

btw bot: here you mention legendary open world nothing about all factions being at legendary difficulty#td2-general-chat message

[fleet prism]

i did just chose to ignore it.. when white tusk was typed

thanks LOST bot take a seat somewhere in the corner.

[jagged prism]

hope you do and rethink how you type yoru messages if you're going to get this worked up with people just thinking the same way when legendary comes into play

[blazing citrus]

._. I love when discussions devolve into insult fests

[fleet prism]

welp moving on not gonna argue with skill issue players

[jagged prism]

going to new game since this is too easy?

curious how this new mechanic for retaliation will play out though

[blazing citrus]

Tldr; my stance is keep legendary to white tusk. Its how they've done it so far and imo how they should keep doing it. Full legendary map wouldnt make sense but the new mode for next season would imo. Finite limited area.

[jagged prism]

which passive are you set on?

i'm on with the one that sets them on fire until they die bit 🤔

[blazing citrus]

Idr the passives 🥲

[vagrant pecan]

They could add legendary for the New York missions
Or offsite like the Pentagon

Hell even countdown

. . .
Scratch that

[blazing citrus]

[jagged prism]

Outcasts - Scorcher: Breaking the Scorcher’s gas canister ignites enemies within 7 meters. These enemies burn until they die.

[languid bay]

I dont think it should have to matter that much for the lore ngl

[jagged prism]

though, this gaves me Madbomber ideas
Thrower - “Batter Up”: Any time a grenade lands within 5 meters of you, it is destroyed automatically. This effect has a 45 second cooldown. While on cooldown, the explosion radius of your grenades is increased by 100% (doubled).

🤔 that cluster nade, wonder what their radius will be like with this?

[fleet prism]

never got worked up i was asking for another option. YOU got all worked up and made a wall about the question asked.. sadly im so beyond you in this game that i actually have to re explain it to you.

[blazing citrus]

Stepping stone, keep out and scorcher

[languid bay]

I’m nowhere near legendary content ready but just dial the diff up and let everyone run wild

[spare cove]

PPR

[blazing citrus]

🤔

[jagged prism]

i know nade wise those probably won't hurt much anyways, but yeah it could be fun anyways XD

[fleet prism]

sigh nvm lol. wasting my time with soft cookie Lost here.

[blazing citrus]

Also for active say cheese on strikers build

[fleet prism]

Lord i guess that would work

[blazing citrus]

Or sanitation for a ep build

[fleet prism]

put legendary on new zones or content

[cyan musk]

how much damage per crit should I be dealing to attempt master mode potomac?

[tender wave]

depends on your build

[solar kayak]

there are so many different guns with different base damage, ROF, etc. that you can't really measure it that way

[jagged prism]

60% is normally the cap, but going higher than 60% drops your chd so yeah really depends on build

[spare cove]

Can't you just LFG for Master Manhunt? Faster that way

[solar kayak]

more commonly you look at your crit chance and crit damage stats, not how much damage a single bullet does

[cyan musk]

Not chc like how much actual damage per round

Is 60chc and 69chd enough?

[jagged prism]

lol, yeah but if you're running around below 55%-60% you're not critting much

[blazing citrus]

Advanced materiel as r5 sounds pretty good for mortar build 🤔

[jagged prism]

then whatever you push into chd past that won't be much eitehr when y ou crit

[solar kayak]

69 CHD is very low

[blazing citrus]

Iirc at r5 its got a 55s duration so overcharge for 55s is not something you can say no to

[solar kayak]

for any build that deals damage primarily with guns and is not going for headshots, you should be stacking CHC and CHD for every minor attribute, gear mod, and weapon mod, making sure you don't overcap on the 60% CHC limit

[jagged prism]

nods sounds like you're trying to get both high on say 1 ceska or none and then relying on your watch and mask/chest/backpack mods for chc

[blazing citrus]

Did they not say the build?

[jagged prism]

no build mentioned just stated they gto 60 chc and 69 chd

[blazing citrus]

Ye thats... pretty low

[cyan musk]

I figured out the issue I had an extra chc roll on my kneepads plus I don't have the best chestpiece

[blazing citrus]

I remember hearing people cite a 1:2 ratio for chc chd

As a rule of thumb. You usually want double or more chd compared to your chc

[jagged prism]

the way i go, if i can't reach 60% on chc then i try not to build for it in general

[cyan musk]

The build I have plotted out will have 57chc/129chd plus killer

[blazing citrus]

Whats your build?

[cyan musk]

Currently 5pc strikers with a ceska ob chest but I plan on using tinkerer

[blazing citrus]

🥲

[jagged prism]

5pc striker is your issue

[blazing citrus]

Slap on coyotes until you get tinkerers

[cyan musk]

I have literally 0 exotic masks aside from catharsis

[jagged prism]

grupo mask?

[cyan musk]

I'll check if I have the bp

[blazing citrus]

Better than 5pc strikers imo

[cyan musk]

I wanna run 6 red tho

[jagged prism]

ceska and grupo was the combo if you didn't have coyote mask

grupo is red

catharsis would probably be rough since that's your only blue but it'd probably still help until you get your tinkerer

[blazing citrus]

Lemme check what i got on my setup

[jagged prism]

well, at least next season we know what emma will be doing (> <)

curious to find out how that "targeted exotic" part will work in that retaliation mechanic 🤔

[blazing citrus]

55.1/163.8

[spare cove]

I think it's explained in the PTS patch notes

[blazing citrus]

It needs optimizing tho 🥲

[cyan musk]

I'm ngl I' kinda hoping I can find a good group in matchmaking and luck out on master mode

[spare cove]

You can try doing LFG on WipeSquad server

[jagged prism]

good luck, i still haven't completed normal-heroic for it yet. bugged out one me 😭

look for GCRock i'm sure they're helping people too

[solar kayak]

5???

[jagged prism]

yeah mask is placeholder until tinkerer apparently

[jagged prism]

it is and it isn't
3 methods they said but random blueprint? how is that targeted?

[cyan musk]

I assume the broken shd watches allow you to pick an exotic to work towards

[jagged prism]

unless the part they didn't explain, the target loot for the day is part of the targeted exotic loot? 🤔

[jagged prism]

from what i read there, those are so we can get the faction parts for those blueprints?
"Broken SHD Watches. These can then be exchanged for Retaliation materials from other factions, allowing you to work toward Exotics outside of the faction you’re currently facing. "

[frozen relic]

i will now only ever fight outcasts

[kind veldt]

so people who dont have teh DLC can farm mats for cleaners and rikers for example

[jagged prism]

sounds like it honestly

[frozen relic]

idk maybe all shared ik you get blueprints from the caches

maybe craftable out of other ones so if u dont have dlc

[blazing citrus]

Anyone seen anything at vendors thats worth grabbing?

[jagged prism]

you'd hate my standards, but i saw nothing worthy

[frozen relic]

just maybe the sacrifice at the white house if u want one and dont wanna farm a good one

[jagged prism]

if you havne't already, i'd youtube "vendor reset 8/12/2025" or something along those lines and see what they say

[blazing citrus]

I have... multiple... in my stash 🥲

[jagged prism]

you think the retaltion mechanic won't choose places in NY/Brooklyn for people who doesn't have either one or one of the two?

[blazing citrus]

Im running my hotshot build while playing on my pc with a wireless mouse and the scope was jumping everywhere. My palm was moving on the trackpad 🥲

[thin oasis]

Each faction has set blueprints, thats as far as the targeting goes

[kind veldt]

certain exotics are tied to certain factions, how do you fight cleaners and rikers in DC? it will work in all maps

[frozen relic]

theres caches that contain ny blueprints

[feral mural]

You don't, you go to NY and Brooklyn

[kind veldt]

yeah thats the point of the broken watches that can be converted

[jagged prism]

yeah, but what about the people who only have base game?

[thin oasis]

Those with base game can convert to broken watches that can be exchanged for dlc blueprints

[frozen relic]

You farm caches painfully

[kind veldt]

okay are we running in circles in here?

[thin oasis]

This is LITERALLY all explained in the patch notes

[jagged prism]

wonder if they ever tried to make a Faction Invasion mechanic before this PTS? think it would've been doable

[kind veldt]

they have done

there were seasons cleaners invaded DC

[feral mural]

broken SHD watches

[jagged prism]

oh, did i miss that (those) season(s)?

[feral mural]

you can convert retaliation mats into Broken SHD watches so you can get non DC stuff

Though if we're being realistic, you should have at least WONY if you play division 2

[jagged prism]

yeah i understand that, but birdshot was questioning about it and your solution was "just goto ny/brooklyn" nothing about if they can if they don't have those dlcs or not (> <)

[fluid meadow]

You'd be surprised
The base division 2 is available for free if you have ps plus extra on ps

[jagged prism]

i agree, missing out on 4 skills is a little rough i'd say

[kind veldt]

it was not a literal question it was a rethorical one based on that

[feral mural]

well, the answer is in the patch notes. Plus, I'm sure they'll do invasion stuff on the side

[jagged prism]

nods more on how those broken shd watches comes into play on that question (> <)

does the spreadsheet show what factions would work with those exotic blueprints?

[feral mural]

how TF would it

the data isn't there to put into the spreadsheets, not yet

you can mostly figure out which exotics belong to which faction anyway.

[jagged prism]

i'm curious if it shows what factions those exotics belong to generally based on their talents or something?

[feral mural]

I don't think it has. From what I can tell, it's purely by lore that they'll be sorted

so Pesti, Backfire, Outcasts.
Chatterbox, Coyote Mask, Hyena's.
Etc

[jagged prism]

don't think they mentioned it in the patchnotes, but i'm guessing the incursion/raid exclusives will probably be excluded in the blueprint pool, but if not wonder what factions they'll put those in pool wise? because of the incursion i could see cleaners for oreo?

[feral mural]

EB would be Black Tusk, Rav, Reg would be True Sons, Ouro would be Cleaners

purely going off enemy types in that mission lol

[fathom zinc]

is this game alive at all ?!

[vast reef]

Why is iron horse so difficult to understand

[feral mural]

Clearly is

[fathom zinc]

wth is going on ? when td3 ?

[jagged prism]

well, blacktusk isn't in that retaliation mechanic, so i'd throw EB with truesons unless after PTS they add blacktusk for that sake

[feral mural]

Even we don't know lol

[spare cove]

TD3 is still in development and Massive has a dev team working on TD2 since 2022

[fathom zinc]

theres a patch and 24h peak is 4k ppl ggame is def not ALIVE lol

[jagged prism]

i'm betting on never for the moment

[fathom zinc]

would be a decent choice tbh looo

[spare cove]

We just got a DLC released, for christ sake

[fathom zinc]

pvp ? new dz ?

[spare cove]

No?

[jagged prism]

think people optimisticallyl thinking 6ish years for div 3?

[feral mural]

Where does it say that? It says kill squads are tied to 5 factions

[spare cove]

@fathom zinc Did you come here to talk? Or just talk hyperbole BS?

[fathom zinc]

no new pvp game will remain somwhat dead. old dudes will go rolep[lay i guess

[spare cove]

No one should play Division for PvP ever.

[feral mural]

The PvP element of Division is the most dead part

[spare cove]

In fact, shoot'n'loot games should never have PVP

[fathom zinc]

you play division for 6 years no pvp wtf you doingg lmao lincoln memorial on repeat ?! 😂

[fathom maple]

PvP isnt the main thing on div2, they put PvP as an alternative

[feral mural]

New dlc, new master missions, new scout missions

[spare cove]

I swear, all PVP players are the same. Entitled brats

[jagged prism]

didn't see 5 factions, was just thinking we don't have anything on the passive modifier for black tusk, just the other factions have them

[urban shuttle]

Does the new boss glitch over exotics and named weapons>

[fathom zinc]

the only reason td1 stayed good for long was dz and is the reason td2 died so fast lol community of 34 raid speedrunniers

[spare cove]

Get the hell out of the server. Now!

[feral mural]

Wouldn't make sense to lock factions out, just says that the modifiers are faction themed

[fathom maple]

Yea lets not Talk about the bad system div2 had at Launch, ofc in ur mind is PVP fault

[jagged prism]

talking about this is part of a rule on this server. 12 i believe?

[fathom zinc]

okay what do you do once youre min mxed in a week and have done those missions ? role play around ?

[spare cove]

....

[small vigil]

Less than 34 actually. It’s like 12 now

[fluid meadow]

It was division's biggest appeal. And it's not much to ask for a little moderation

[spare cove]

Unbelieveable, you are truly unbelievable

[feral mural]

I play with all the new stuff I got from the missions lmao

[spare cove]

I don't wanna see you or hear any of your BS.

[fathom zinc]

MY POINT LOL but nno new pvp so NO endgame lol

[jagged prism]

i know, but those modifiers has nothing about blacktusk in them, so my thinking is the retaliation is solely 4 factions taking over areas, blacktusk we have our weekly invasion, but they could put it in those maybe? 🤔

[spare cove]

I effin hate PvP players

[feral mural]

No it's all factions

[fluid meadow]

Just look at the dz video for the division 1
You can't tell me this didn't make a lot of sales

[small vigil]

Hawk is ragebaiting so hard and you guys are falling for it 😩 might actually be pvp players…

[spare cove]

Giess wjay? I effin hate Div 1

[vast reef]

How is that harassment or witch hunting people?

[fathom zinc]

i have 189 days on td2 just on xbox and i just pvp. divison games where only good cause of pvp even if it was atrocious. could of been great. died at warlords

[spare cove]

Its cultists are annoying.

[feral mural]

ok now you're definitely ragebaiting

[fluid meadow]

Voicing my opinion honestly. Can't do it a lot with a franchise such as this though lmao

[spare cove]

I hate them, I hate them, I effin hate them

[fathom zinc]

because we farmed the f out of you lol

[jagged prism]

my bad wrong one, 6
if it's an exploit related thing

[fathom maple]

"died at warlods" no way u have 189 days, u r a level 20 at much

[fathom zinc]

lol sure.

[fathom maple]

Warlods revived the Game but ok

And guess what, revived the Game without PvP wooooaaaah

[vast reef]

Ur good lol was a lil confused

[fathom zinc]

if you dont remebver 4 11 7 and clutch and bserk you dont understand

[spare cove]

Case in point

[jagged prism]

if the game is dead why you here?

[fathom zinc]

theres leggit one one playingg

[fathom zinc]

i had a notif from this server i came to ask if it was dead and it ggot 3 people all hyped up its funny

[runic kernel]

If that's funny i know some crappy stand up comedians for you

[fluid meadow]

This is asked a lot and i really want an answer
What other game can offer what division has?

[fathom zinc]

is better

[spare cove]

Okay, cool. Then go play your precious Destiny 2.

[small vigil]

Had to delete before I get smited

[fathom maple]

Destiny 2 status is shit

[fluid meadow]

I think this can be misconstrued to be a keys joke

[fathom zinc]

better raids better pvp overall better community

[feral mural]

What does gear 1.0 meta have to do with the game "dying" at warlords?

[fluid meadow]

Be better
Be like superman

[fathom maple]

D2 better communitty? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[jagged prism]

tell me about it. i stop playing div then i get that itch

[fathom zinc]

wearlords was just the straw. more status for bots less skills needed. its really an old person ggame. cover to cover npc killer

[feral mural]

Warlords revived the game, but ok.

[fathom zinc]

td2 players are legit robots.. 40 year old dude in cover tossing skills lol

[feral mural]

and div 1 was any different?

[small vigil]

Agree that this game caters to old dad gamers 🙂

[fathom zinc]

div one dz was insane lit

[unreal depot]

Got my first max roll mod.. and it's 10% skill duration

[jagged prism]

yes, the npcs were more bullet sponges (> <)

[small vigil]

That’s why Determined has gone untouched for over a year now

[feral mural]

Div 1 PvP was jackasses with the SMG/shield combo

[fluid meadow]

As much as i want a better well attended team in another game there is simply no extraction shooter pvp game with mechanics like the division
And they have this IP so its really just them out there

[small vigil]

All the dads love no skill brainless gameplay so why would they fix it

[feral mural]

the good ol days an I right guys?

[fathom zinc]

tell me you were a random without telling me no shields here just a 4 stack 3 smgs one healer lol

[jagged prism]

i miss the sticky nuke of div 1

[feral mural]

tell me you were a ganker without telling me.

[fathom zinc]

ganked you and the entire lobby i bet

[feral mural]

"wHy WoNt PeOplE pLaY wItH Us" when it's a four stack of guys who do nothing but pvp

[runic kernel]

The last third person game that required skills was Gears. Making your monitor spaz out running in zigzags in the DZ at 480p is something a toddler on a lot of sugar can do

[feral mural]

you are the exact kind of people who would rage quit in DZ because I sniped you.

[feral mural]

It was always Mexican guys who were absolutely untouchable in Gears

[thin oasis]

If CoD was a personality

[unique hearth]

Let's move on and talk about The Division 3. Let's discuss the new abilities, like sliding and using melee weapons (similar to Heartland). Let's also talk about takedowns from a stealth position.

[fathom maple]

I only need crouch

[urban shuttle]

fair

[unique hearth]

Yeah that would be nice

[spare cove]

Crouch, takedowns, melee weapons, hell a raid against the Black Tusk HQ and I'll be a happy cookie

[unique hearth]

Thats awesome

Cant w8 for The Division 3

[spare cove]

We're gonna a wait loong time

[unique hearth]

Yeah

[thin oasis]

Well you'll be waiting a long time....so....back on topic

[fathom maple]

Nah BT is not going to be on div3 i think

At least not at all, prob we fight the Cabal in div3

[fathom zinc]

you can be on a decoy hella far sniping me lmao you still get farmed with server. i aint mad if im dying to something i dont see LOL weirdo

[fathom maple]

Naaaah this Guy is the classic barcode from GTA🤣🤣🤣

[reef reef]

Take that to DMs if you really want to bicker.

[feral mural]

I don't think this guy understands how games work in general ngl

"I'm gonna kill you even though I'm dead" ok guy. I don't think you're mature enough for division

[tender wave]

let's just stop the personal insults there, shall we?

[fathom zinc]

you think you win while we on a rank 200 manhunt. you killed one of us every 35 mins died 14 times in the process thinks hes winning... i legit dont understand how some of you played this ggame lol

[cyan musk]

I beat potomac on master mode

[kind veldt]

congrats

[reef reef]

Change topics. Move on.

[thin oasis]

Well done

[kind veldt]

everything went smootly?

[fluid meadow]

Smoot killer

[vital cave]

I just did mine too

[cyan musk]

side note why do people hate playing support so much?

[fluid meadow]

Multitude of reasons

[cyan musk]

it is literally such an easy archetype to play I literally threw together a crappy support set from drops I got mid kission

[kind veldt]

thye like big numbers

[thin oasis]

Because everyone wants to be the main character in their own story. Human nature

[fluid meadow]

They feel passive

[kind veldt]

i like OD is the best of both

damage AND support

[cyan musk]

honestly I care infinitely more about the mission being finished than any number I put on a screen

[fluid meadow]

Dps future initiative was something i used to run

[jagged prism]

think it'll be the only thing people will run next season?

[vital cave]

Infinite ammo too on kill

[fathom maple]

Bc u feel u shoot marshmellows, not funny go from full striker stack to healer

[solar kayak]

red FI is okay too, though you have to interrupt your shootmans to keep people topped off for that damage buff

[kind veldt]

yeah if the job got done then everything is fine

eclipse protocol CC is also pretty handy

certainly made legendaries easier

[fluid meadow]

That's why you get a bonus armor player
Keep vigi AND fi buff active

Though this is more geared towards countdown

[fathom maple]

6 pieces of 511, the best build

[jagged prism]

i agree

[runic kernel]

Support is my favorite role since i get bored DPS spamming. I slept on OD and Bluescreen for too long

Eclipse CC was my goto before that

[feral mural]

supports get no thanks

[fluid meadow]

The cap'n bag with pointman and fortified smart cover can give you stupendous amount of bonus armor

[feral mural]

I've burnt out of being a support from playing overwatch

[kind veldt]

i dont know how i like playing support on that game more than the DPS

[fluid meadow]

Also btw fortified smart cover expertise is ADDITIVE to the bonus armor so you get 30% extra bonus armor which equates to 3 skill tiers

[kind veldt]

anyhow OD always

[fathom maple]

U only get a thanks if u nano genji and he gets a 5k, no 5k no thanks

[cyan musk]

I prefer support on ow solely bc of the music guy

[feral mural]

Heh I play Lifeweaver

[thick yarrow]

should i try to go for the striker chestpiece since it doubles the amount of stacks you get with its talent from 100 to 200

[feral mural]

drag the tank out of the 1v4 he obviously can't win? "Heal diff"

[feral mural]

Noob trap. do not use the chest

[fluid meadow]

Upkeep could be difficult
Legendary? Incursions? By all means though

[runic kernel]

Striker chest is useful for harder content when enemies are huge bullet sponges, otherwise use a chest with Obliterate. Striker chest on heroic is still probably overkill since things will die before you hit max stacks

[kind veldt]

niche piece for specifc content

[thick yarrow]

so i should try and go for ceska or grupo chestpiece with obliterate?

[fluid meadow]

Ceska for assaults

[runic kernel]

Whichever works best to get closest to but not over chc cap

[jagged prism]

ceska because of the 1 pc provides some chc off the get go

[fluid meadow]

Helps immensely when you are still yet to level your watch's chc

[fathom maple]

If u have more than 50% CC i will go grupo, in my experience work better

[jagged prism]

same with coyote's mask i fyou can get one

[solar kayak]

Ceska's CHC bonus is worth more than Grupo's, if you use the rule of thumb of 1% CHC being worth 2% CHD

there might be some niche situation where you're overcapping on CHC and Grupo would be better, but in general prioritize Ceska

[blazing citrus]

People say thanks to other people?

[blazing citrus]

On higher difficulty where theres lots of enemies or tabke enemies by all means run it. For heroic regular missions though id stick to a ceska obliterate chest.

Also id recommend grabbing an acs-12 for speedy stacks building

[feral mural]

Nah just "heal diff" lol

[runic kernel]

Yeah that's why personally i couldn't slot in the Tinkerer mask for my strikers build. Could probably do it if its an lmg strikers build

[violet canyon]

hell even on legendary idk if its worth using strikers chest because enemies still die fast lol

[blazing citrus]

Ive never really had people say thanks for runs, healing build or not. I have had people say thanks for responding to backup requests

[jagged prism]

you mean you don't hear voices in your head telling you thanks? 🤔 maybe it's just me

[runic kernel]

I did get a thanks once for Legendary Tidal with Bluescreen OD (yeah i know OD isnt ideal for the tech but it still works) due to the staggering

[blazing citrus]

Oh all the time but i dont have voice chat on so i can tell the diff :3

[cyan musk]

caldera vs topographic which one do y'all think is better

[blazing citrus]

Why not bluescreen x ND

[blazing citrus]

What do they do?

[thick yarrow]

acs-12? is that a shotgun?

[cyan musk]

weapon skins

[blazing citrus]

Full auto drum shotgun

[jagged prism]

yes, it's a fast firing shotgun

[blazing citrus]

Easy striker stacking since each pellet adds a stack

[thick yarrow]

i wish i could play in windowed fullscreen but can't since for some reason it drops my fps to 10 (steam)

[runic kernel]

Loadouts are full. I have ND on another character but the specialization classes aren't maxed (tldr: lazy)

[jagged prism]

was horrible for me when missed stacks dropped 2 per miss, rarely got full stack strikers

[blazing citrus]

Wait misses drop strikers stacks?

[tender wave]

not any more

[violet canyon]

not anymore

[tender wave]

got buffed years ago

[blazing citrus]

Ye i tried out the ND diamondback build from the spreadsheet but cant save it bc not got enough loadout slots 🥲

[thick yarrow]

which year was it when they swapped from 3 season per year to 2? year 6?

[feral mural]

no, but I wish it did

[spare cove]

30 loadout slots would be nice

[fluid meadow]

Imo that was the whole point of the set
Y'know "striker's gamble"

[blazing citrus]

Ok...

[violet canyon]

nah, stacks dropping for missing is garbage in this game, lots of things to make you miss, no reason to penalize players for it

[blazing citrus]

Fr. ;-;

[spare cove]

I mean, I can't blame wanting nerfs on Striker, when it's been the DPS meta for a long time.

[fluid meadow]

There is actually
The fact it rewards you so much for simply hitting the enemy which you already do

[violet canyon]

nerfs are for WoW and CoD, we like to have fun on division lol

[jagged prism]

plenty of nerfs been had in this game though

[blazing citrus]

Nerfs? We dont do that here. We just make something better 🤔

[fluid meadow]

But then again we have regulus and the imminence set.......

[violet canyon]

ya i know but lets not get a hate train started in a mostly PvE game, no reason for it

[feral mural]

Strikers needs a nerf.

[blazing citrus]

(What does imminence do? 🤔 )

[fluid meadow]

60% pistol damage

[feral mural]

Strikers is just damage with zero downside

[violet canyon]

if you want strikers nerfed you can just run solo and not use it, problem solved lol

[jagged prism]

Devs: oh you guys found a way to get 1k levels in 1 hour? "nerf xp" (> <)

[feral mural]

This makes zero sense

[blazing citrus]

Dont like it dont use it

[cyan musk]

1pc 5% weapon damage 2pc 100% increased threat 3pc 60% pistol damage

[violet canyon]

how so? you dont like strikers bein so powerful. So you can just never use it and never play with people that do. Now youre happy and so is everyone else, win win lol

[blazing citrus]

Is threat that good?

[jagged prism]

i never liked it when it hit Div 2. stuck to the ole reliable build. 3 providence, fox's, contractor's and depending on my mood last piece usually grupo but sometimes i'll throw in the coyotes

[fluid meadow]

Stepping stone only

[cyan musk]

you're confusing a wish for a diverse meta with wish to remove something from the game strikers is overly centralizing and kills creativity for higher tier content

[blazing citrus]

The ever persistent

"Im to hot" " take your jacket off" "no"-esque argument

[feral mural]

the problem is I have to play with people who use nothing but the same copy paste striker build because that's what the best is

[fluid meadow]

The most basic issue you'd notice immediately is lack of use for any future gearset or brand
"Why run that when striker exists"

[jagged prism]

reminds you of year 1 doesn't it?

[blazing citrus]

Fair. Imho highend should always outclass gesrset bc its a harder grind BUT it is what it is

[feral mural]

This game has tons of build variety, but you never see it because all you see is "striker with coyote mask, ceska obliterate chest, St Elmo"

[jagged prism]

from memory you saw a bunch of sharpshooters, pretty much running bezerk/clutch

[fluid meadow]

Used to be the opposite in div 1 cause of the whole classified system
Honestly div2 did that too with making 1 platform basically the undisputed best

[feral mural]

Berserk Clutch or Intimidate Berserk iirc

[jagged prism]

but they tied in specializtions as a requirement for those in the beginning (> <)

[blazing citrus]

Ik this aint abt pvp but i rember the HF, ad rush intimidate chicken dance meta

[feral mural]

the chicken dance meta is still in full effect

[blazing citrus]

Ye. But also referring to the rest

[feral mural]

just shifted to armour regen/Bighorn instead of HF/Lady Death

[blazing citrus]

Is there any decent non niche pve ravenous builds

[fluid meadow]

Which leads to people using dps builds because i don't want you to move around for longer than 5 seconds

[jagged prism]

not that i know of honestly

[blazing citrus]

🥲

I love the gun. Just wish it had general use builds. Besides raid tanks i cant think of anything

[jagged prism]

nods same here. thought of things like "oh 2 grupo, 1 china, demo and watch as i delete things with explosions!" but think i tried and it failed

[cursive hamlet]

Finally got the stupid Meow patch from the Manhunt

[feral mural]

Standard rifle build but use Rav instead

[blazing citrus]

Arent typical rifle builds hsd tho?

[feral mural]

no that's 1886 rifle builds

[blazing citrus]

🤔 ill look into it

[feral mural]

I dunno, 3 piece Zwia, Coyote, Fox's Prayer, Prov bag or something

[solar kayak]

determined builds for sure, but my Umbra build with a UIC15 is crit-based because I'm not good at consistently nailing headshots

[blazing citrus]

So ik that lexington will drop maxed but what about harvest, turmoil etc etc

[feral mural]

Lexington, Caretaker, Turmoil all drop maxed

[blazing citrus]

What caretaker do?

[spare cove]

It drops with Perfect Killer

[lunar hare]

perfect Killer

[blazing citrus]

:/

Why cant the harvest drop groll ;-;

What would harvest groll even be? Hsd and determined or dttooc and determined?

[feral mural]

Always DTTOOC

[blazing citrus]

Okok

[vast reef]

Is 9499 protective fibers too much

[fluid meadow]

Not nearly

[spare cove]

The max is 9999

[fluid meadow]

Could be gone by crafting or expertising in a flash

[jagged prism]

you need a whole lot more

[fluid meadow]

And can be gotten in a flash too

[blazing citrus]

5000 protective fibers... and 5000 more... protective fibers

:3

[vast reef]

I’ve been wondering why it kept giving me a warning I was maxed out on sum

[fluid meadow]

Throw it in the weekly mats donation

[blissful lagoon]

aint no way we got full auto pistol man

[fluid meadow]

If your fingers are strong enough you could make that 93R fire like a vector

[blissful lagoon]

that thing look op as hell

[blazing citrus]

until you realise that its main buff is when your shield breaks

+25% damage when your shield breaks :3

[blissful lagoon]

damm

[velvet talon]

Sup yall
anything intersting in the game right now ?

[fluid meadow]

The full auto sells it to me immediately
Just put 3 imminence and douglas and you already have 85% WD

[blissful lagoon]

climax mission

[velvet talon]

With the wolf hunter mask ?

[blazing citrus]

new climax mission, preload for the pts that opens tomorrow

[jagged prism]

that was months ago

[velvet talon]

Yeah got it already....I forgor what was a climix mission then 💀 took a long break

[jagged prism]

this one you get Tinkerer Mask. basically Alphabridge gearset from div 1 but as an exotic mask

[velvet talon]

ooo okay when that mission coming in ?

[jagged prism]

came in yesterday

[velvet talon]

Then what's the preload for the pts tomorrow ?

[blazing citrus]

the preload for the pts tomorrow is for the pts tomorrow

the public test server. to test out new stuff for next season

preload it just to prematurely download it so you can hop right in

it will run from thursday to monday and you will have access to your current characters iirc but idk from what savepoint but it should be recently. nothing is carried back (obviously) and you will be able to access all the new content

[velvet talon]

Aight then I'm downloading those 5gbs :V gonna run be some mission now :V

[full zinc]

Snapshot of agent probably 2-4 weeks old

[blazing citrus]

Better than not having our agents at all ig

[cyan musk]

what if you made your character less than the 2-4 weeks ago

[quartz zenith]

is the master climax boss still bugged ?

[hybrid ore]

MSV are aware of the climax mission bug, are working on what's the cause, fixing it is the "highest priority"-Yannick.

[blazing citrus]

Then you should prob stick to main servers so youre actually prepared for when the pts comes to live

[runic kernel]

Don't DPS her that hard and drag out the fight when its just her and it'll maybe work

[full zinc]

I guess you'll be SOL... /s
It's not exact, but last pts I did *agent was from a few weeks prior

[blazing citrus]

Just throw spaghetti at the wall (multiple runs) and maybe one will stick (youll be able to complete it)

[thick yarrow]

is chamelon a good ar to have?

[cyan musk]

It's her grenade if you hit the health gate while she's throwing a nade she bugs

[blazing citrus]

Not particularly. It does alot of stuff but not really any of it well

[cyan musk]

It is okay to start but there are a lot better options

[kind veldt]

Its not jack a of all trades

Close range with some weird DPS bursts due the talent

[thick yarrow]

btw on the google sheets the builds that are in different types, what are red, yellow, blue, hybrids? i assume red is attack, blue is armor and yellow is skill?

[blazing citrus]

Corresponding cores

Imo strikers build should be your first milestone

One of the easier ones to put together

[hybrid ore]

Make sure you send it in as a ticket, with video evidence. It'll help them diagnose it faster.

[cyan musk]

imo it's better to make a healing build to play second fiddle to dps until you have the parts for legendary dps builds

[hybrid ore]

That's not exactly great advice.

[cyan musk]

that's what I did

running healing is also a really good skill bc it teaches situational awareness

[hybrid ore]

Healer builds in most cases are very much not needed.
In fact, outside of maybe Raids, I'm struggling to think of a case when you actually need a healing build over a 4th killing setup.

Strikers teaches better situational awareness than a healer setup, because you have to be in the fight the entire time.

Of course other builds have their place, but a red dps setup of some sort is your first port-of-call for a reason.

[vast reef]

Bro legendary is no joke. 1.5 billion damage during the district arena damage and during the boss had like 11 buffs stacked on me

[floral estuary]

What cache do I need to be opening to try to pull the Lexington

Or is it not out until next week?

[cyan musk]

stretch caches starts the 19th

[fathom maple]

Or go refractor while u eat during the run😎

[solar kayak]

going through the new master manhunt, I did so much damage that it went through the negatives and looped back around to positive, so it looks like my damage was very mediocre https://i.imgur.com/kLG0yQV.jpeg

[scarlet jay]

Anyone able to help with a run through of the new climax mission?

[kind veldt]

#lfg-xbox

[vast reef]

Me and the other guy were both in the billions of damage

[echo bone]

So when you going to fix countdown kicking players out at the main mission loot box?

[hybrid ore]

@echo bone You aren't talking to devs here, they're the blue names, the rest of us are just players.
Check the trello for updates on bug fixes.

[fluid meadow]

That's been ongoing for a long while no?
Probably a year or so

[echo bone]

Yes

[hybrid ore]

@mint sphinx Chill, and you're looking for #lfg-pc

[thick yarrow]

does being proficient in gear allow you to upgrade them?

[hybrid ore]

@thick yarrow #ask-td2-community message

[fluid meadow]

Weewoo mods

[hybrid ore]

It's best not to reply to those, ya never know.

[thick yarrow]

honestly might wait till season 2, i can't even do missions on challenging without dying, so i might as well just quit

[hybrid ore]

div2 is a game about building yourself up over time, it can take years.

it's not meant to be jumped straight to challenging, that's why it has that name.

[thick yarrow]

so im pretty much gonna be stuck on hard difficulty on global settings....... fantastic........

[hybrid ore]

Nope, you can advance, you just need a good build, and more importantly: know how to play it.

[thick yarrow]

i'll have to look for a solo build since i prefer to play solo a lot of the time

[spare cove]

Learning how to use positions is also important when using DPS builds, since you're very squishy when fighting enemies

[jagged prism]

figures. they'd make it so tinkerer can't be used with lex and other non perfect named weapons, kind of figured they'd do that anyways

[azure lintel]

Really need to work on the 1 million bugs in this game

[mint sphinx]

lol this is the 5th time the mission has bugged on me on boss AFTER we kill her

[jagged prism]

still, i need to figured out what 2 combo i want 🤔

[thick yarrow]

i think i'll stick with chamelon for now since i need to get outcast resources so i can change my striker kneepads core stat to armor

[full zinc]

waste of mats changing red cores blue. just lowers ttk to have your armor still get stripped in the same amount of time

just add memento and/or shield to get a bit more survivability

[thick yarrow]

and lose the striker 4 piece bonus? no

[full zinc]

you have 6 total slots

[jagged prism]

then continue struggling i guess?

[full zinc]

what a silly argument

thats unacceptable

use your words/gestures wisely @thick yarrow

[thick yarrow]

also i completely named the exotic mask i need its not coyote's mask its catharsis

[stone wind]

I'm sorry, ||Kitty Fluffy Kiss Kiss||?

[jagged prism]

yeah, i found that amusing honestly

[thick yarrow]

also im gonna go for the steelworks chest finding the talent obliterate on it, (its for the manufacturer bonus armor on kill)

Also sorry for getting snappy

[noble fractal]

Ive ran the master mission 10x for the mask in a group at this point just mail me a mast so i can get the blueprint im effin LIVID RN.

[frozen relic]

i might tbh farm it for a second one soon

[cyan musk]

I ended up getting it running a support build with randos

[candid galleon]

Bruh got disconnected at the last fight before getting the new goodie

[gleaming canyon]

anyone having issues with the servers?

[noble fractal]

nice im glad people are gettin it

[cyan musk]

yeah been getting a buncha delta's

[tired field]

Run my memento with a chest piece. And the rest striker

[hot ruin]

is brazen a decent perk for random shotty shenanigans? just picked up a decent six12

[thick yarrow]

A little, i got dc'd twice doing countdown

[hot ruin]

I should say just as a backup weapon to swap to, not as a primary

[thick yarrow]

Can't really do that if im running countdown for farming stuff

[tired field]

What I’ve been using for legendary countdown runs

[thick yarrow]

plus not to mention i've got a long way to go before i even have a good enough build especially since i need to redo WoNY and continue BfB

[pine flame]

wtaf is going on with server connection recently..... 5th week in a row I'm getting the connection issues of enemies frozen in place, shooting doing no damage and or nothing happening when i pull the trigger, have to restart like 10 times for it to stop

[kind veldt]

brazen is one of the best for shotguns at hte moment

[tired field]

Seems like your progress is about the same as me. I haven’t even dive into Brooklyn yet. Just do your daily projects, you get exotics guaranteed everyday

[thick yarrow]

yeah since one of the exotics i need is from the exotic cache

yeah but i mainly played on playstation when the game came out and since i stopped playing on PS i had to start from scratch since progress isn't cross-platform

[tired field]

Ye launch I was Xbox. Moved over to pc about a year ago now. Started playing heavy about a month before Brooklyn dropped.

[jagged prism]

lucky to miss out on the random crashes lol

[tired field]

I forget why I stopped playing. It was covid time so a lot was happening.

[jagged prism]

pc had a moment where you could log in, fast travel start a mission be 2-3 steps in and you'll be at desktop
nex time you can be 1/2 or 3/4 in the mission and be at desktop was horrible

[thick yarrow]

so even though im going for steelworks chestpiece with obliterate, is it okay for me to go for that?

[tired field]

What type of build are you achieving?

[thick yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vu3V8dKdDI
something like this

[tired field]

That chest piece is what makes that build a self healer.

[thick yarrow]

which is why im going for it

[tired field]

So it’s pretty crucial to have that piece or else your just a high dps player without the extra crits you could have

[thick yarrow]

plus im gonna need to do the global event so i may have to stop doing countdown for a bit

mainly for exotic caches since carthasis is only from caches

[tired field]

Gotta keep in mind how high is proficiency levels were too.

[thick yarrow]

yeah they're probably level 10 but also upgraded with expertise level in mind

and countdown is the only "raid" i can do without much issues since raids require communication

[jagged prism]

you can do raids as long as you can listen to what's being said honestly

[thick yarrow]

one problem i have social anxiety

[echo turret]

Question can someone mod or something that had some serious hours on the game do I need the dls for the 2 game

[jagged prism]

then you going to no life the stretch goals next week?

[jagged prism]

Warlords of New York will provide 4 skills, 1 named chest, Brooklyn will give 1 skill and 1 named weapon and Exotic mask now that i think of it
but most things will be done in DC season wise

[echo turret]

What are the DC season

[thick yarrow]

no you don't get it, i don't do well with groups in discord reason why i play division 2 solo

[jagged prism]

the stretch goal gives 10ish caches, maybe 5 specifically named caches that can give you incursion/raid exotic drops but at a low chance

[jagged prism]

basically this if you want to click and read it
#patch-notes message

[echo turret]

So it like fortnite season?

[thick yarrow]

there is only one exotic i need but its cache only and the only way to get caches is global event, priority objectives, projects (if they have them as a reward)

[echo turret]

Or the destiny 2 seasons?

[thick yarrow]

essentially its 2 seasons per year now, since i think they revamped seasons for year 7

[jagged prism]

never played it, but probably. every 3ish to 4ish months i want to say? we do things each week to progress until the end of the season we get a climax mission

[echo turret]

So it like the fort

So can I play the old season or like ?

[jagged prism]

which end of last year they started a "do this specific mission at normal to heroic difficulty to get upto a 10%ish chance for the exotic or 100% doing it at master difficulty which is just a difficulty between heroic and legendary

[thick yarrow]

well not the old season but the legacy manhunts that were previously available

[mint sphinx]

7th try on this mission and it is bugged again

[jagged prism]

yeah, but all you're doing is taking on the targets without doing the work most did during those seasons

[thick yarrow]

and the manhunt i did last was faye lau since i stopped playing PS after that

[echo turret]

Ok so how many seasons are there

[thick yarrow]

i think its 2 this time

since im pretty sure this season lasts 6 months

[jagged prism]

number wise couldn't say. they did 1-4, repeated 1-4 for a season, then came back at 9th season and kept giving us new things each time. last november they changed it again to what we're doing now

now they go by a year number season number

[echo turret]

Ok so it big mes

Ok well going to start playing it in few days after finishing the 1 game

[dry gate]

so we are getting hunted in Y7S2 eh? I say BRING IT! 🙂

[jagged prism]

pretty much
https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Seasons

[thick yarrow]

they revamped it so essentially its seasons 2.0

[jagged prism]

if we skip 5-8 we're on 13th season otherwise it's 17th

[dry gate]

retaliation shmetaliation! I'm sure I will regret these words on HC 🙂

[jagged prism]

oh definitely if you want to complete the retaliations. apparently it's timed

[dry gate]

where have you been L05T, I've missed you 😉 you were the one guiding me from the depths of noobhood to the average div 2 player I am today

[thick yarrow]

plus im on a tight schedule in terms of the season pass, i have to reach level 100 within 3 weeks to avoid having to pay £9 to get year 7 season 2 season pass

[jagged prism]

got burnt out. if you can imagine it i played another game that has crit chance and damage and i mixed it up with div....

[thick yarrow]

and i can already tell i won't make it

[dry gate]

hahahah.. it's ok.. I finished Ghost Recon Breakpoint campaign.. fantastic game too.. no CHC/CHD though 🙂

[jagged prism]

i saw a clickbait video "infnite gun combinations" bought the game (still in the alpha/beta phase aka early release) and got 60ish% chc and was like max there and saw the number go a bit higher, oh 100%?!?!?!

[dry gate]

🤣

[jagged prism]

hell, can go 200% if you fancy it

[thick yarrow]

so this might sound a like stupid request but i think i might need help getting to level 100 on the season pass

[jagged prism]

where are you level wise?

probably got 3ish weeks

[thick yarrow]

i think level 7 or 8

[echo turret]

BTW what are the difference between the 1 and 2 game

[jagged prism]

div 1 is basically on life support mode atm, div 2 is still getting new things

[thick yarrow]

i'll have to check since i stopped playing because i got annoyed with the server connection constantly kicking me out

[echo turret]

Yeah I know but still good game

[dry gate]

FOV 🙂 j/k.. Div 2 is a much more refined and modern game. The ambience in Div 1 is fantastic though.. Div 1 was IMO as I played it for a bit recently a lot more tactical and a lot more cover dependent.. Div 2 is kind of blast it no problemo but you still ocassionally use cover.

[echo turret]

And they release new content until they announced the division 3

[thick yarrow]

i loved division 1 but after the first dlc i stopped playing it because they screwed one thing i enjoyed doing solo

[echo turret]

BTW is the faction withe the mask I don't there name in the division 2

[jagged prism]

the gearsets in 2 is basically the same ones in 1 but the ones in 1 requires 6 pieces to make it powerful

[kind veldt]

focus on doing the manhunt scouts and journey, they give a lot of seasonal XP, priority objectives is the second best thing

[thick yarrow]

the thing they messed with in 1 was the dark zone by making it so that the level of the enemies were 4 levels ahead of you

[kind veldt]

gonna need to be more specific

[thick yarrow]

cleaners

[kind veldt]

well all factions used masks in the first game

[echo turret]

They kill agents and used there watches as trophys

[dry gate]

hunters

[kind veldt]

yes there are hunters in div2 spread out in some content

[thick yarrow]

which i'll have to do on hard since not strong enough for challenging atm

[echo turret]

No it no the cliners and I think was the hunters

[thick yarrow]

oh those system disrupting bastards

[dry gate]

we are getting now new things in open world in Div 2.. they announced it today.. it's "Retaliation", the squad of named enemies is hunting you basically

[jagged prism]

nah, just hunting all the Bozzified in div 2 (> <)

[dry gate]

hahaha

[echo turret]

BTW can I make my charecter to look like the hunters because I rely like them

[dry gate]

I see re-leveling on HC in my not too distant future

[dry gate]

yes.. you can get their masks.. each map has their own hunters (DC, NY and Brooklyn)..

[thick yarrow]

wait i thought they didn't go through with the season resetting your characters to level 1?

[jagged prism]

brooklyn be the easier hunters to fight honestly

[dry gate]

the masks are the coolest IMO too

[echo turret]

Ok thanks well got to go see you later
Also if someone form you guys has the 1 game on ps4 text me

[dry gate]

I was talking about hardcore.. you don't have to re-level on SC

[jagged prism]

they didn't. they got a huge back lash on it. what bozzified is talking about is hardcore which if you agent dies they're dead dead

[thick yarrow]

i stay away from hardcore modes even on games like LE, and PoE

[jagged prism]

it's not bad if you run it with someone, just hope the game doesn't bug out on you during your run though

[dry gate]

it's good to play some hardcore.. makes you a better SC player IMO and you will really really learn the builds to milk the most damage while having maximum armor and survivability too.

Div 2 HC is not that punishing really.. aside from leveling up from 1-40, you don't really lose a lot of things.. aside from what you had on you when you died.. all mats/blueprints are shared from softcore too once you reach level 30 and your SHD level when you died becomes available when you hit 40 again.. so really not horrible

[jagged prism]

but bozzified i want to continue to be a noob

[violet canyon]

whats the server shutdown for?

[dry gate]

on another note.. I like Tinkerer mask potential, but I'm not blown away by it. I'm not sure it is as good as we thought it would be

[thick yarrow]

maintenance i think

[jagged prism]

i'm not in game, so no clue. could be just your region having some issues

[thick yarrow]

plus i tend to get quite annoyed whenever i die

[jagged prism]

they changed it from PTS. can't use guns like lexington on it anymore

[dry gate]

ocassionally instances of servers you play on have to be rebooted/restarted. It's usually only in your region and the one you are on, so you will just need to re-login and re-connect to it again.. It's different from maintenance that is announced ahead of time and is usually 3-5 hours.

[thick yarrow]

speaking of lexington, that weapon is returning

[dry gate]

next week

[jagged prism]

yeah, but good luck getting it XD

10% chance to get a named weapon then 30% from there

[dry gate]

ah I think it will be dropping often.. 30% chance in a 10% pool..

[thick yarrow]

when i do get back onto division 2 i'll do the journey missions but on hard.....

[jagged prism]

welll, named item not weapon. so with how much named items we have, yeah 30% isn't much honestly
did you see 40% on chatter for exotics?

[south topaz]

u need to farm 30 caches to get it even in bad luck condition

[dry gate]

chatter is such a great SMG.. I like that.. I can get it on HC too, instead of running around gathering Hyena boxes.

[brazen elm]

lexington always drops with perfect rolls tho right

[dry gate]

that's the question.. will it? We will see...

[south topaz]

yes devs confirmed its all perfect rolls lexi caretaker etc so one time farm only

[dry gate]

ah.. so they did confirm it.. ok.. I'll need about 10 on HC and 4 on SC

[jagged prism]

or none (> <)

[dry gate]

hahah.. or none

[jagged prism]

thought you had the best ars (> <)

[dry gate]

I got the Ravenous last Stretch Goals, I finally got Regulus from IH (legit project route).. I'm a happy camper

having them on HC though would be very nice.. I ain't doing IH on HC that's for sure

[jagged prism]

that reminds me. i need to log into my 2nd account and get 100 season levels...but do i really need to? 🤔

[dry gate]

only you know the answer to that 🙂

[jagged prism]

if you get thinkerer's on HC you're good

[dry gate]

I'm curious what the drop chances are on Tinkerer on the manhunt on hard/challenging.. 10%?

[jagged prism]

heroic i think was 10% then it drops each difficulty

[south topaz]

in retaliation they say alternative way to earn exotics but raid ones r excluded I'm sure most people want those in alternative way

[dry gate]

I'm neither here nor there on people getting raid exotics in alternate ways.. I'm fine either way.. what I do kind get salty a bit is them gating reconstructed caches behind Descent.. I just suck at Descent

[jagged prism]

so the raid ones are definitely not in the retaliation? doesn't surprise me honestly. was asking earlier where the EB would drop. thinking the retaliation was only the 4 other factions

[dry gate]

give me another way to work for getting reconstructed caches

[jagged prism]

yeah, i was trying to go at it hard, but yeah

[dry gate]

I farmed the crap out of Game Pass event on 4 characters.. but getting those credits in descent is a nightmare

[south topaz]

they gave in Shepard level i know a new player farmed it using his frnds and has 500+ blueprints now

[dry gate]

it was still limited.. I got the max I could on 4 characters.. I still miss like 100 blueprints

[south topaz]

people made new char in 15 min and farmed

[dry gate]

Descent, I got it down.. I get to nemesis, I pick Envy every time, easy peasy, but then Nemesis claps me like I'm a red bar.

[jagged prism]

you buy the upgrades on the laptop or wally?

[dry gate]

and for that hour or so effort I get like barely 50 credits.. and then I see people with 80k credits in Descent and I'm like.. lord almighty

[south topaz]

descent is easy in 4 group i always matchmake it has 8k credits not even spending 😅

[dry gate]

and that's the dirty secret nobody tells you.. it makes it infinitely easier to play descent once you have those max-ed out

armor on kill, 20% chc, etc etc

[jagged prism]

right?! when i finally get them up i'm like oh it's a bit easier now.
i mainly pistol whip them all

[dry gate]

I only had credits to get 17% armor on kill so far.

[south topaz]

1 extra talent roll is must

[jagged prism]

probably was my 3rd or 4th purchase

[south topaz]

i wonder how retaliation works in random matchmake like map is not shared right?

[jagged prism]

no clue but sounds like something you'd queue for and the leader would initiate the mechanic once everyone is ready

[dry gate]

when does PTS start again? tomorrow?

[jagged prism]

"You can choose to engage by initiating Retaliation from the new Retaliation tab on the Mega Map. This starts a retake timer and teleports you (and your group) to the zone’s safe house."

[dry gate]

or today? I think I got an email to download it this morning?

[south topaz]

in 11hr I wonder if i can join it i owm the game from steam

[dry gate]

don't see why not, Steam is just a wrapper for Ubisoft Connect light?

ah you probably need a launcher from Steam to open it though.. so you are right probably only on Ubisoft Connect

well L05T confirmed it.. it is possible

[jagged prism]

what i sent was from ubisoft connect but you can see it says steam on it too

[dry gate]

yeah I see

[jagged prism]

that's awesome actaully (> <)

might have to have Ubisoft connect to get it to play on steam though 🤔

probably got to get ubisoft connect to intiate the download though? 🤔

oh wait, might be div 1 pts?

yeah, div 1 pts.... 😭

[shrewd hill]

Tinkerer doesn't show as a loot drop under any difficulty other than master. Is it supposed to be like this?

[jagged prism]

yes, it's locked to forget the mission name, but the climax mission for this season

Potomac?

[shrewd hill]

So i can't get the mask without doing master difficulty? That sucks

[jagged prism]

you can do it at normal to heroic, but at a much smaller chance at getting it, master first time clear 100% chance

[shrewd hill]

That's good to know. Thought I've been wasting my time after 5 heroic tries.

[narrow grove]

it's not like the theo master, it's fairly easy

in GC rock room 5 if you wanna give it a go

[jagged prism]

i queued heroic, got it done with 3 others including the bug. then went with 2 of the 3 to master and we beat it

or take up peeedaah's offer

[mint sphinx]

LETTTS GO after 10 tries it wasnt bugged lol

[thick yarrow]

well time to set difficulty to hard and do some of the journey missions and scout missions (not the pistol mission though) and take about 67.2 mil xp to reach level 100 in the pass

[dry gate]

you are better off trying to do master with someone.. it's not THAT hard with a few more people. This might be one of the easier manhunts in general. From what I saw and I ran it today a few times on master, I prefer seasonal modifiers vs golden bullet on master. Heroic is only 10% drop chance. So definitely will take a few tries.

[thick yarrow]

and just looked at my daily projects and one of the projects is one i refuse to do

[fierce badger]

Well I got the tinker mask, try it out with a few things and needless to say it is now a exotic component..

[frozen relic]

I have it on one niche iron horse build tbh otherwise useless

[thick yarrow]

so the scavenging points for the shd level, which mats are recommended to go for?

[frozen relic]

The ones you need

Can always just save them

[fierce badger]

I always just went clockwise in order. I feel in each slot as I went

But each person's different so some might prioritize critical hit and damage over health and shields some may prioritize utility skills it's really depends on how you play style is

[thick yarrow]

what does alert level do again?

[fierce badger]

It determines the difficulty level and potential rewards that you get from control point alert level 1 is normal, alert level 2 is hard, alert level 3 challenging, and 4 is heroic

[flint shore]

He's just baiting you

[desert glade]

does anyone know what the drop rate is for the new mask on challenging? I can't see it in the rewards that's why

[thick yarrow]

its master difficulty drop only

[kind veldt]

no

master mode is first time clear guaranteed reward

but it can still drop in other difficulties

[desert glade]

thanku

[thick yarrow]

i think challenging is a 5% chance like any exotic

LOL i got memento from an exotic cache, if i was to use that i'd have to swap the striker backpack to the mask

[lunar hare]

if that's a question then yeah absolutely

[thick yarrow]

whats the memento build you do? i just got it from an exotic cache

[tired field]

Fenris chest. Rest is striker with a chameleon and acs12

[lunar hare]

Fenris isn't the way to go if you're crit starved

[tired field]

Not sure which route he’s going by with his build. But I’m aiming for raw dps

[main jungle]

Okay, I bought a bundle skin set that completely vanished from my Apparel collection did anyone have that happen before?

[dry gate]

how is PTS accessible from Ubisoft Connect?

[main jungle]

I think you have to choose the library and then there is an option to download and install it.

I need help. I have to open a support ticket. Ubisoft took $19.99 and gave me no Apparel in return. I can't even find the name of the set and my wallet shows it was purchased. Is there a list of all 2025 Apparel bundles?

My account shows the transactions for last month and it's super weird.

[dry gate]

I guess Ubisoft Connect launcher was bugged.. restarting it now shows PTS... weird

[main jungle]

Oh glad you were able to find it.

[stray sand]

anyone still having issues with spawning in the wraith ( or wrath) hunter?

[main jungle]

Is there a list of all 2025 Apparel Bundles? There was one I was looking for but I can't find the name of it.

[fierce badger]

Hey on that friend referral program does it tell you when somebody uses your referral or is it just kind of like a waiting game.

[grim rain]

If I have a level 7 character, do I still get triple XP?

Even if I haven’t completed the season pass?

[hybrid ore]

@grim rain The x3 XP only works for your SHD Watch, which is something you need to be Lvl 40 to get.

@proud solstice You're looking for #lfg-playstation, GL Agent

[proud solstice]

Copy

[jagged prism]

no clue if there is someplace that lists all bundles for apparel

[drifting shale]

NGL it kinda blows that the lexi ain't compatible with tinkerer...

[dry gate]

honestly it wouldn't be as disappointing if they didn't have it work with Lexi in PTS.. and we all thought even though named, the Tinkerer would only be limited to perfect/exotic talents. But since people saw what it was like with Lexi, having it now not work leaves a bad taste.

[drifting shale]

Lexi with two talents would be lit

[blazing citrus]

I would not advise chameleon when there is better options

[blazing citrus]

It was bugged :/

[blazing citrus]

Memento is more for solo play because it requires you to get kills. Go with 4 pc strikers (mask, gloves, holster, knees), memento and ceska (chest with obliterate)

[fathom maple]

5 pieces of 511 and memento, meta build

[drifting shale]

I find that memento works great in place of the bloodsucker backpacks

[blazing citrus]

People use bloodsucker?

[drifting shale]

Memento + Intimidate works wonders (Or you can be a madman and go Hunter's Fury + Memento. With a chatterbox, that has speedrunning potential.)

[drifting shale]

I mained liquid engineer on a meme build

[blazing citrus]

Ok so not seriously

[drifting shale]

Still, made for a fun, goofy shotgun build

[blazing citrus]

._.

[drifting shale]

Liquid Engineer, Ninjabike Kneepads, Sweet Dreams and a smorgasboard of DPS brand sets

The "I value cover to cover way too much" build

Or maybe you're interested in my collector chestpiece + festive delivery nade spam build?

[noble owl]

Is the Manager bugged for everybody?

[blazing citrus]

If you mean impossoble to complete after killing them yes. Its known by ubi/msv and on their trello board as a high priority fix

Its not always bugges. Just depending on how you do the mission

[noble owl]

So, no point in trying to complete it

[blazing citrus]

It can be completed but its pretty much rng

[late basalt]

Hi, if im on hunting mask / or man hunt does it required to play in specific difficult or any difficult will do ?

[blazing citrus]

You mean for the new exotic mask?

[noble owl]

If you mean Tinkerer exotic, Master difficulty.

You have to complete it on any other difficulty first before you unlock Master difficulty

[full zinc]

afaik it can drop on any difficulty, but is a guaranteed drop on master

[blazing citrus]

Ye from what ive been told on lower its rng. On master the first clear is guaranteed

[noble owl]

Mask drops only on Master 100%. Other difficulties is very low chance

[late basalt]

yes something like that

so if i play solo it's almost impossible ?

[blazing citrus]

Impossible? No

Hard? Yes

[late basalt]

ok but i should build my solid build first lol

[blazing citrus]

Yes

[late basalt]

About manhunt content, any difficulty will do ?

[remote pecan]

depends on the content, but you can have good builds with it for solo stuff, especially when you don't have access to memento, like playing on hardcore with a newer char

[remote pecan]

look, the master difficulty does not have scaling for the group size
so it's always on 4player scaling, if you wanna do it solo, you have to account for that

[late basalt]

countdown challenge made me scare. enemies are very tough. 3 mags didn't kill them

[fathom maple]

Bring elite protection and learn the spawns

No purple/red bars, everyone is a yellow bar

[late basalt]

hmm how can i learn more about "Elite" thing / protection/ gear. im in Division 2 gear spreadsheet

do you mean yellow/gold item ?

[full zinc]

elite are yellow bar enemies. the reference to elite protection means protection from elite mods. those will reduce incoming damage from elite+ enemies. red and purple bars would be full strength damage tho

[fathom maple]

Is a mod for gear, u can put the mod on ur mask, chest and backpack

And the élites are all enemies with a yellow bar above their head

[late basalt]

ohhh , thank you

[fathom maple]

Or u can put ur balls in the table and go all red mods

But élite Imo is better since Keiko hit like a truck

[late basalt]

i put on cri chance 😂

[late basalt]

thank you

[quartz zenith]

how can u work around the manhunt climax buggin out

[late basalt]

for rising the Specializations tier, Does it increase anything other than fashion/outfit ?

[blazing citrus]

Pray

[quartz zenith]

what u mean pray

we did it like 20 times now and she keeps bugging out

[south topaz]

killing slowly and at the end of clearing all ads in each 3 wave works

[quartz zenith]

so it is recommended that only 1 person damages her ?

[south topaz]

maybe last 2 time i said to go slowly to my random teammates and we fired a bit then stops until she vanishes in wave 2, then in wave 3 u can kill her with full power if u cleared all ads including fire robodog

if u killer her in wave 2 it gets bugged, if u kill her before all enemy spawns it gets bugged

[quartz zenith]

what u mean by killing her we damage her till she vanisches and than nothing happens annymore she doesnt even get to the second wave she buggs out there already

[south topaz]

then ur fire power is too high or some shock/status bugging her

[drifting shale]

You know

I wish the insurgent outfit was compatible with sling bags

[quartz zenith]

well thanks anyway but all of my group went offline cause they are mad about it xD

[blazing citrus]

Clearly not praying hard enough

Just gotta hope and pray you dont do one of the like 1000 things that would bug it out

[thin oasis]

There's no proof that over damage or status are the cause of her bugging out.

[remote pecan]

pfe (protection from elites) is capped at 80%
you can get to 36-39% with 3 (12-13%) pfe mods, survivalist spec gives you another 10% iirc

[drifting shale]

Honestly, best way to do Master difficulty is to find a group

Even a mid tier group can pretty safely clear Master with only a couple of downs

Though lemme tell you

Those chonky enemies take a lot of bullets to kill

[late basalt]

thank you, i hope i can find random party

[remote pecan]

Tinkerer mask drop chances on lower difficulties

1% Normal
3% Hard
5% Challenging
7% Heroic

[hybrid ore]

@late basalt #lfg-pc is the place for that, GL Agent

[late basalt]

oh jeez

[remote pecan]

I did it with matchmaking yesterday and it went just fine.

[drifting shale]

You know it's something you never realize. The absurd amount of ammunition our agents are apparently running around with.

Let's assume just assault rifle ammo, which we assume is 5.56. 12.31g per cartridge. Multiply by 1022 (972 rounds + the extra 50 rounds in the sturdy extended magazine.) That's 12580.82 grams, or 12.58 kg, or 26 pounds. That's 26 pounds of 5.56 ammo alone.

And yet it never feels like a stupid amount of ammo because you can easily burn through that ammo supply during a single mission

[remote pecan]

the enemies are bullets sponges, so you have sponge bullets, which do not weigh that much

[drifting shale]

Rivens you meanie 😭

[hybrid ore]

I call it like I see it. :p
'deck knows what I'm talking about.

[drifting shale]

welp its been real imma about to get the banhammer for being a nerd

[drifting shale]

That actually would explain so much, ngl

[hybrid ore]

If we banned for being a big old nerd, the spreadsheet would be empty. You're all good!

[drifting shale]

Also why do our american agents struggle to reload M4 platform weapons. 2.4 seconds compared to the 2.1 of a bullpup is wild when you consider that the AR platform is the most common platform in the USA? Are they just trained to use Bullpups preferably or something? 🤷

(yes, these are the questions that haunt my every waking moment...)

[hybrid ore]

Okay I take it back.
🔨

[cobalt saddle]

What is pts preload it's test server or main game?

[drifting shale]

Test server, I'm pretty sure. The Main Game and PTS are two separate things entirely

[cobalt saddle]

Oh

[hybrid ore]

Yarp!
The PTS is a temporary test server, available to help you rest out the upcoming season. No progress is carried over.

[drifting shale]

Take it with a grain of salt, I haven't been on division in a while

[remote pecan]

tbh I don't think that's accurate anymore, the gear sheet does not represent current values

[drifting shale]

rest out lel

[hybrid ore]

I've still got a better spelling rate than my cousin, chatGPT.

[drifting shale]

i couldn't resist
btw do you know Claude? (It's another ai)

[hybrid ore]

I'm not overly fond of referring to any language model as an actual AI.

Think more Skynet and less speak+spell.

[drifting shale]

Or whatever my Striker Drone's AI is

It targets everything except the guy shooting directly at me. Even when I designated the target it just ignores it half the time

[hybrid ore]

fun fact: That's just because Strikers takes bribes.

[drifting shale]

That would explain why every dpser ever uses it....

real agents use Foundry Bulwark for DPS builds

[hybrid ore]

It's also why I use the jammer/oxy/foam, depending on faction choice.

I have to justify putting 30 expertise in all 3 of them somehow.

[drifting shale]

Riot Foam my beloved

[remote pecan]

M4 is around 1,94s and from empty 2,24s
Aug 1,86s and 2,16s respectively

[drifting shale]

Which, somehow, means the M4 still reloads slower than an AUG.

Not much slower mind you, the reload time adjustments really smoothed things out but it's still mildly amusing to think about as a gun nerd (Even though division is anything but a realistic gunplay experience...)

[remote pecan]

yea would have guessed that bullpup like an aug reloads slower irl

[drifting shale]

Unless you are extensively trained to reload a bullpup

[remote pecan]

maybe agents are just trained on bullpups 😄

[drifting shale]

That sounds like an absolute mess logistically. (Yeah, division agents don't rely on traditional logistics but still, wouldn't it be easier to pick up an AR from a store?)

[south topaz]

i maybe played 50-70 masters till date never saw bighorn drop so doubt about that

[tender wave]

I've never heard any mention of Bighorn dropping from master difficulty

[remote pecan]

I'm talking about the new mission specifically.

[remote pecan]

It's probably because people aren't going to look for it on Master difficulty. However, at the end, Master difficulty drops Legendary quality loot, so it wouldn't be that far off.

[thin oasis]

Average military pack weight is around 30kg, not including things held in pockets. So it's not completely unbelievable but still unlikely I'm fitting all that in my little fancy back pack

[fringe crow]

Any1 found any secret on new climax mission? Like Ducks?

[remote pecan]

just comms, but they're not really a secret

[tender wave]

@finite scarab ask in #lfg-pc, this is just a discussion channel

[thin oasis]

Although I'd be more concerned about the ability to squash 48 ARs, shotguns and MMRs into my pack with all that ammo and my spare clothes 🤣

[tender wave]

Have you or anyone you know found bighorn? I'm curious where this 'legendary loot' claim comes from

[fathom maple]

Nothing for now, the poorest clímax about secrets/lore

[fringe crow]

Me too ;-;

[thin oasis]

I was hoping Keiko had killed and ate the cat or something exciting 🤣

[fringe crow]

Agreed

[remote pecan]

nope, but the loot quality is on legendary level

[fringe crow]

Nop.. I did tons of kelso master with my clan.. 40+ members.. and few got 13%pfe but no one got a bighorn

Tried to search, but cant find nothing about this with friends or on reddit..

[fringe crow]

But since theyre turning this game extremely easyz giving thos oxo on caches.. I believe you

[tender wave]

I'm just going to class it as hearsay until someone confirms it can drop

[remote pecan]

the bighorn claim was just guessing, the loot quality is a fact

[tender wave]

Noone would try and farm it there anyway when f10 exists

[fringe crow]

Whats means legendary quality? After almost 2k hours legendary drops 💩

[remote pecan]

I removed it, I don't want to spread misinformation, but I initially said seems like it, doesn't mean 100% confirmed

[fringe crow]

If i found any secret i will share with u guys (mb this mission dont have.. like journey dont have a mask..)

[remote pecan]

the attributes rolls for master difficulty are on the same level as legendary

[fathom maple]

Ngl this season was lazy in general, they made Manny so dumb, journey without a mask when the other 2 masks were a simple recolor and no cutscene after climax

[tender wave]

Legendary quality means the average of an items stats rolls won't be below 80% (60% for heroic).
There's nothing stopping max rolls from dropping even on normal difficulty though, so I'm not sure how you'd prove something was legendary without collecting hundreds of drops to compare stats. Unless we're talking a rule 6 situation, of course.

Maybe they've been focused on other stuff - Brooklyn, whatever they're revealing at gamescom.

[spare cove]

I'd uninstall the game right here and there

[fathom maple]

Im excited about the snow stuff

[spare cove]

Yay, snow 🙄

[fathom maple]

And what happened to the Capitol, nuclear/radioactive shi?

[spare cove]

No one knows.

[remote pecan]

another DLC

[fathom maple]

2 dlcs in one year is crazy

[tender wave]

Unlikely, probably a game mode is my guess

[fathom maple]

I think It has something to do with the new gamemode

[tender wave]

Or maybe a dlc but it's only just being started and won't release until the end of the year

[vast reef]

What the hell did I just read lmfao

Also dlc? Bruhhh I’m leaving for basic the 22nd and don’t get done till December. F meee

The grind is gonna be even more horrendous

[tender wave]

We're just guessing

[thin oasis]

Makes for a good character revenge arc.

Doom Guy has been slaughtering entire world's and hell itself for 25 years because someone killed his pet rabbit lol

[remote pecan]

I don't think so, because they already showed that, more something like an announcement for a second DLC or a snowy mission/raid.

[vast reef]

Tbh I didn’t get any of the lore so I watched a 4 hour lore vid, still a lil confused, watch all the legacy manhunt cutscenes, was still confused, and the just grinded out cp3s lol

[remote pecan]

Hazard symbols -> contaminated

[iron gust]

Has to be something big to go to Gamescom

[thin oasis]

Subjective, what they consider big does not necessarily align with what the playerbase wants or needs lol

[jagged prism]

all i can think of gamescom is just a bigger video gaming convention honestly, but whatever they're going to show there hopefully will be awesome and we'll see it at some point

but honestly, my hopes aren't that high anymore

[iron gust]

Well yeah, that's never been the case lol
It's their game, their vision, their priorities

[jagged prism]

with us players having little feedback in what we'd like (> <)

[iron gust]

I would take a season of bug fixes/qol updates over new exotics and sets
They don't make new cosmetics for the brand sets, it's just reused from another set
Just the gear sets get something new

[jagged prism]

nods at least 2 seasons of fixes i'd say honestly

🤔 now that you mention QOL and bug fixes. wonder how much this retaliation bit is going to bring bug(s) wise

[remote pecan]

there are a lot of good suggestions, they just need to implement some of them

[sinful kelp]

yay i finally got perfect ceska chestpiece with obliterate

[low lily]

I think the wait will be really long

[sinful kelp]

now i need one for gloopa somber...

[near stag]

Does anyone know if you can get the Tinkerer mask again, once you've got it the first time from the Master mission?

[remote pecan]

5 days?
tbh I don't know for sure, but my feeling is it took way to long for Brooklyn to release (over 1 year delay) and the content is fine for the price, but still a bit short
the new gamemode for y7s2 seems also longer in the works than just this season, so they're planning more ahead imo

[jagged prism]

yeah, but at a lower chance regardless of difficulty i think?

[remote pecan]

on a different char it's a guaranteed one, but after that, just the usual drop chances

[near stag]

It doesn't show on the manhunt on another character though

[jagged prism]

oh?

[low lily]

I mean if it's coming end of year or spring it would be good but if it gonna be over a year again or even more it's just meh

[remote pecan]

you can switch to manhunt mode, but you need to unlock master difficulty again

[jagged prism]

you'd have to go through all the scoute activity on that character

[near stag]

Ahhhh Ok thanks

[remote pecan]

and after the new season started last time, it was a guranteed one again, dunno if that is intended, but they did reset it with the update

[iron adder]

If you have unlocked climax mission in a character, for any other char, you just need to clear the climax mission in any difficulty, then master difficulty will unlock for that char.

[jagged prism]

oh? i'd assume new character = need to do all the scouts then do the normal to heroic climax to get master

[remote pecan]

nah they're account wide, just the master difficulty unlock isn't

[iron adder]

Scout is account wide, you can't do it again.

[remote pecan]

#td2-general-chat message

[jagged prism]

so it is master that gives something like 10% after your first clear?

here i thought heroic was 10% then it just drops to single digits from there, although i feel that should be pinned 🤔

[iron adder]

I don't know the percentage but that chance is there during the first run as well. One guaranteed, one RNG to a maximum of two tinkerer in the first run.

[remote pecan]

that was for the Catalyst mask an specific Brooklyn tied exotic, but I think they won't pin it unless officially confirmed

[remote pecan]

yea should be 10%

[south topaz]

if another person inv u to master u unlock master directly bypassing any difficulty rule, invite must be from /invite command and after starting the mission

[wet rock]

Took a bit of a break (like a week) and already forget what I should be doing. Lmao

[fathom maple]

Sit in the white house for 2 hours, later think what u can do and then sit on the White house another hour