td2-general-chat

[hybrid ore]

you can even get an extra copy if you have no Nemesis on that char/in your main stash.

[keen birch]

Ok so I just farmed out striker pieces, and now I'm looking to unlock mad exotics what should I be farming now?

[errant ember]

i already did collected them, craft it and then now it wont drop for me

even when i opened 20 exotic boxes...

[hybrid ore]

@keen birch Countdown, TL, Challenging. then buy an Exotic Cache every 2-3 runs from the CD vendor.

[hybrid ore]

RNG is RNG.

[keen birch]

Perfect tyvm!

[real moth]

Exotics that go well with strikers are coyotes, elmos and ouroboros

[hybrid ore]

Remember that exotic caches are not affected by TL at all, so each time you open one it's entirely random.

[errant ember]

i'll just craft it again tbh... cant even drop it form boxex

[keen birch]

St elmos is first on my list then I wanna gun for the oreo smg

[hybrid ore]

Ouroboros is unfortunately locked forever to #lfg-td2incursion-pc

it's not that hard, you just need a good build and some knowledge.

[keen birch]

Yeah I tried joining a team for the incursion and we didn't get very far

[errant ember]

you just need basic understanding of enemies layout and phases of the boss and u good

also decent dmg build so u gonna need that Elmo

[hybrid ore]

Copy Raucey's Striker build (the incursion version) from the spreadsheet, that'll help a lot too.

[real moth]

Eh, for pure damage elmo is middle of the pack tbh

[errant ember]

he's new. Thats the only gun its decent for him atm

[real moth]

And especially for those close boss burns, it's miles behind good smgs or shotguns

[hybrid ore]

Eh, it's still a solid weapon and far beyond middle of the pack.
upper middle at worst.

[errant ember]

once again... he's new :/ also he's on PC so RPM from elmo is pretty good

specially with striker and full stack with perfect sledgehammer beforehand as well

[hybrid ore]

The best thing about St Elmo's Engine is the icon that someone made for it on the spreadsheet.

[errant ember]

also booster hive increased his rpm output which makes it even more lethal in incursion

I just see it as hehe funny stun gun

Just came back after like a year and everyone like: "Get striker! Get Elmo!"

[hybrid ore]

Like the Ouro, just ignore the Talent.
the good thing about Elmo is the stupidly high stats+mag.

shock rounds are alright, but super not the point.

[errant ember]

I thought i need to do 50 legends for elmo or something cuz its seems so overpowered just to ended up getting: "Oh, Elmo? ya, just farm AR and u good"

[umbral hearth]

the talent is really good for survivability purposes when running full red cores

[errant ember]

shock rounds are meh but its extremely good for solo run

I get saved a lot in legends thx for that talent xd

[hybrid ore]

You know what's far better for survivability? using cover.

[errant ember]

cant really get in cover when you getting stunned and 3 fat bois shooting at you.

[umbral hearth]

cover has gotten me killed more times than its actually helped, no thanks lmao

[errant ember]

but... its my fault to get into that situation in the first place xd

[umbral hearth]

oreo with its 1% drop chance

[hybrid ore]

You actually have to be in cover not just standing near it, it doesn't have transitive properties.

[frosty wadi]

Weren’t using it correctly then

[errant ember]

10% with chest. 1% with le funny bosses

[hybrid ore]

note to self: trademark that Exotic Talent.

[umbral hearth]

ah, why didn’t i think of that! thanks einstein

[frosty wadi]

Umbra but its a gun

[errant ember]

1% chance will be 100% chance if you just running incursion non stop

[umbral hearth]

its tempting ngl

im ready to see what the DZ pvp community is like in this game, but i dont wanna run in there at a disadvantage lol

[errant ember]

always remember! 100% of the gamblers quit before their big win.

[hybrid ore]

I prefer Copernicus, but I won't complain about the compliment.

[frosty wadi]

It took me a week to get one and I ran it like 30 times, just because you run it a ton doesn’t mean it will drop, as well something to factor in is other exotics can also drop

[hybrid ore]

That is technically true.

it just depends on your capital.

[umbral hearth]

i had my first run the other night and didnt realize the chest gives other exotics

game got me so excited for my 4th pestilence this week

[frosty wadi]

Chest always gives a normal exotic

[umbral hearth]

wasnt even a good roll

[hybrid ore]

It's best to think of the Incursion's Ouroboros drop rate like this: 90% chance to not get it from the chest, 99% chance to not get it from the bosses.

[frosty wadi]

Even if you get oreo

[umbral hearth]

that gives me so much hope

i do have my old lvl 40 character that i havent touched in over a year, maybe ill just transfer a striker build to him to get an extra chest lol

[hybrid ore]

My drop expectations are based off the ME3 CoOp mode, so a 1% chance to get what I want is miles ahead and very encouraging.

[frosty wadi]

Heres hoping whenever they make another incursion it has at least one encounter that actually requires coordination and cooperation, and not another dps check

[hybrid ore]

the Iron Horse of Incursions, if you will.

[umbral hearth]

i mean wright kinda required coordination

[frosty wadi]

Yes, but the boss is still a dps check

[umbral hearth]

has anyone soloed the incursion?

[frosty wadi]

I think?

[grand dove]

Surely a German has

[umbral hearth]

i imagine its possible to do it

[frosty wadi]

I believe it was possible just due to very specific timings and features

[hybrid ore]

I know I'm going to regret asking this.
but why is this person German?

[grand dove]

Most of the speed runs etc I see are Germans so they seem pretty good at the game

[frosty wadi]

My favorite thing to learn when speed-running is you can stun wright out of his health checkpoint explosion

and into another damage phase

[hybrid ore]

I don't think their nationality has anything to do ith it.

[umbral hearth]

day 3 of farming lvl 4 control points for BPs: still only have one tactical assessment bundle BP :/

[hybrid ore]

The good news is: eventually you will get everything, because there's a limited pool.

[umbral hearth]

200ish more blueprints to go

this must be my purgatory or something

this isnt hell, because its not summit floors

[hybrid ore]

You should do those more passively, when you need to farm xp for something else.
e.g. Apparel Events, GE's, etc.

[grand dove]

I never said that, I said that Germans are usually the ones I see doing impressive stuff in this game. Not that they are doing impressive stuff because they are German

[hybrid ore]

I fail to see why mentioning their nationality at all is necessary, but sure.

[umbral hearth]

hes just acknowledging their accomplishments

[grand dove]

People just want to create something from nothing 🙄

[umbral hearth]

like, its not an issue lmao

[hybrid ore]

Okay enough of that, move along.

[umbral hearth]

mhm

[errant ember]

server getting better yet?

[frosty wadi]

Probably an ubi server issue

[deep ibex]

Can someone carry me on Legendary difficulty Roosevelt Island? Trying to get an exotic cache

[supple niche]

Is it known when TU21.2 will be released to fix the bug in the endgame?

[stark palm]

Can you still grind exotics repeating Floor 90 in summit?

[lunar hare]

yes

[stark palm]

Merci

[lunar hare]

ask Rotor Blades (dien.aka.kim)

[lunar hare]

probably tuesday

[dusky timber]

Crashing when running to helicopter in countdown 😍

[stark palm]

The helicopter CRASHED!

[dense saffron]

Black Hawk Down moment

[ivory tulip]

Did servers just go down?

[bronze sluice]

Is there any news on when lmgs will have sound again or are we still in the "yeah we know its a problem but its not like we are a multi billion dollar game developer" phase?

[lunar hare]

Probably on tuesday

[bronze sluice]

Alr

[sharp thistle]

shield + pistol is a dream

[azure lintel]

Determined Adrestia with... reload speed. I was so close 😦

[stark palm]

You 10000% sure

Just got to 90 a sec ago

😩too long to get here haha

[lunar hare]

oh shi, sorry wrong message

[bronze sluice]

Fr

[lunar hare]

Farm floor 10 for now, works just as fine

[stark palm]

But I’m on 90 rn 😫

[kind veldt]

any boss floor works

[stark palm]

So I just reached 90. If I go back to lobby what floor will I come back on? 81?

[timber hatch]

You'll have 3 named bosses. The whole trick to farming 90 is you kill the 3rd, but make absolutely certain you leave something else alive in that boss wave so you don't complete the floor. Once the bosses are dead you grab loot and go back to the lobby

[stark palm]

Ohhh ok ok

[sharp thistle]

until a mini boss with a minigun comes along

[stark palm]

As a skill user I’ll try not let my drones go rogue

[timber hatch]

You have a 90 checkpoint, so as long as you don't complete 90 you'll be able to return to farm those 3 named enemies over and over

I would not use a drone/turret build, it'll be very slow and very easy to kill everything at the end by accident

[bronze sluice]

What health is your shield and what is your sidearm?

[sharp thistle]

whatever the level 30 start gives you

[bronze sluice]

Oh its bcs you are lvl 30

[sharp thistle]

well im 34 but mostly the same gear

[bronze sluice]

Minigunners will be okaycsoon enoufh for you

Wow, my typing is great

[sharp thistle]

ive gone back to my level 2 character anyway

[bronze sluice]

Why?

[sharp thistle]

only just really started the game

[bronze sluice]

Alr

I have a tip for you if you keep using the bulwark shield

Look into getting the "Liberty" exotic pistol

[sharp thistle]

once i get that far ill look into it

used the shield all the time in the first one so its my speciailty for not dying

[grand dove]

Lvl 40 let's go. I'm still on the main story at tidal basin though XD

Honestly though, most fun I've had on a game for a long time

[tiny oar]

fun fact, you have enough space for 1 mod of each in your inventory, but since you can put 3 mods on each build, you need 3 times the gear mods, making you unable to hold all the needed mods lmao

[azure lintel]

Save your loadouts with the gear mods in your gear?

solves that

[full zinc]

Can also save space by crushing resistance mods (maybe save disrupt/bleed resist) , crushing regen mods.
Can also store not often used mods in your gear that sits in the stash as well

[tiny oar]

yeah, ofc

but still, i find it so funny that we cannot store enough mods xd

[rain hedge]

they really need to up storage and backpack

[tiny oar]

well, the storage would be fine if there wasnt 800.000 gear set lol

[kind veldt]

something something servers

too lazy to rewrite the entire explanation

[grand dove]

Is manning zoo or camp white oak meant to be done first? Or it doesn't matter

[azure lintel]

delete non perfect mods, store perfect skill mods in character inventory, dont share perfect gear mods between sets (two chests that both use a 12CHD mod will each have their own mod), dont store more than 6 perfect resistance mods in stash (or other random little used mods like incomming repairs) and stash is fine

clarification: 6 perfect mods per mod type (bleed, blind, etc)

[tiny oar]

yeah, ofc if you store the mods on gear its much easier

another fun fact : i spend 8+k electronics on crafting a single mod i need

didnt got it

i got everything else instead lol

[grand dove]

Well I'll do white oak first, I can't kill Shaw on my birthday

[kind veldt]

both were released on hte same update, oreder of the events dont matter

[grand dove]

Ok thank you

[azure lintel]

@tiny oar thats some bad luck sorry 😦

[tiny oar]

i mean, that was kinda expected

there is so many mods, and its completely random

so obviously you never get the one you need otherwise it would be too easy xd

[umbral hearth]

does anyone know how many blueprints you can possibly get from control points?

[frozen meadow]

You can technically put 6

[umbral hearth]

like the exact number?

[frozen meadow]

At least 3

[azure lintel]

my brain wasnt working and i forgot you cant craft individual mods, ive never crafted a mod since gear 2.0

[tiny oar]

wym 6 ?

[frozen meadow]

Improv gear

[tiny oar]

oh the named with free gear slot ?

ah right, forgot that

[frozen meadow]

Oh you're right

Seven then

[tiny oar]

ye, but thats pretty specific

[frozen meadow]

Not for tanking

[tiny oar]

and thats still not enough to keep all your mods lol

[frozen meadow]

Holy hell is improv broken on tank builds lol

[frozen meadow]

Counterpoint who wants 7 shock resistance mods

[tiny oar]

i mean, im sure somebody will

nutjobs are everywhere xd

[frozen meadow]

Lol

The blind resistance is the dumbest

[tiny oar]

nah, some snipers are annoying with their blind

[azure lintel]

covers up his 6 blind resistance mods with a tarp

nothing to see here!

[frozen meadow]

Annoying enough to kill your DPS? Lmao if you're having that big of an issue with being blinded there's another problem

[tiny oar]

didnt say i had an issue

just saying they have a use

[frozen meadow]

Everything has a use

Doesn't make it a good use

[tiny oar]

thats for sure

[azure lintel]

Uhm... did you know that despite being 100RPM you can actually shoot hte 1886 at up to 125RPM? I betcha didn't know that and I bet nobody cares, but you can 😛

[frozen meadow]

Yeah it's called 3 piece striker

[azure lintel]

without increasing your rate of fire

[frozen meadow]

So you're just says it says 100 but it's actually 125

[azure lintel]

possibly more than 125, but i cant do it

[frozen meadow]

?

[azure lintel]

The fastest I'm able to shoot 6 targets at the shooting range is 2.9 seconds with the 1886, so that's actually 2.06 rounds per second or 124 rounds per minute

i cant no other way to accurately measuring semi auto rpm without a third party program

*have no other

im pretty sure mousewheel firing semi autos probably has an even bigger effect, but again i have no way of telling because id have to be an aimbot to mousewheel an m1acqb and hit 6 targets with 6 rounds. that being said, i dont see any downside to the game autofiring semi autos at their actual stated rpms - i think more people would use them then a common complaint i hear is "click fatigue" as to why people dont

i believe destiny(?) has this as an in game option correct me if you know

[kind veldt]

possibly due issues of people abusing in div1

whne you could put fire on mousewheel

[azure lintel]

you can in div 2

its just not practical for most people

[kind veldt]

thought they had removed that

[azure lintel]

nope

you really have to build around weapon handling with most of the rifles when firing at max rpm anyways so its not really overpowered to allow everyone to do it

m1acqb is nice, merciless can be pretty decent on a focus headshot build, harmony is actually a beast on my negotiators skill build, but with no weapon handling it basically just for chungus up close or like the roosevelt choppers (it melts those)

[tiny oar]

only got 3 crashes today

thats better than last days

[broken helm]

is everybody liking the new sound problems sinds last 2 weeks?

[grand dove]

I will be very happy when the gun sound is fixed. Feels weird

Also footsteps. I keep turning round for no reason even though it sounds like there's someone behind me XD

[full zinc]

combined across 4 agents you have 900 inventory space and up to 64 loadouts... you wont see item storage increase before div3

[full zinc]

anyone know if clan cxp is borked atm? last caches for mine were 8 days ago, and everyone at 0... we generally gold tier in 1st day or 2 since its highly active.

nvm, its on known issues board

[little hill]

Do we know when the next patch will be?

[full zinc]

not yet afaik. we'll probably get a heads up day or 2 before

[umbral hearth]

tuesday hopefully

[jagged yacht]

Are Division games family shareable in steam?

[tiny oar]

you need a ubisoft account to play

steam is not needed

[jagged yacht]

So... not shareable among family members?

[tiny oar]

i mean if you share your mail + password it is

but i strongly advise against

otherwise the family sharing from steam doesnt work on games that need an account on another launcher

tbh the game is on sale right now, you can just buy it and give it to your family member

[sour void]

Breaking Point feels... okay without an exotic rifle.

Was thinking about pairing it with Ravenous, but then where would my Dodge Holster and Regulus go?

[tiny oar]

idk, breaking point feels underwhelming

like, you take so long to get the bonus, when other gear gives you more damage without wiating

[full zinc]

go nego or highend for rifle builds, both are solid

[tiny oar]

ye

[full zinc]

nego is 😍

[tiny oar]

like, even ongoing directive gives you more damage, but its always active, and make enemy bleed + give bleed ammo to your team

why would i play breaking point ?

[sour void]

Yeah...

Probably just gonna swap BP for Negotiator, while keeping Regulus

[tiny oar]

i never found nego useful

i really dont see the appeal

[sour void]

Just trying to use all 16 loadout slots.

It's been a while since I took inventory of my gear, so there might be a better Damage Core build I missed.

[tiny oar]

idk, some gear sound so fkin bad

like cavalier, who the f need skill damage reduction ?

[sour void]

Cavalier is okay solely because of its Status Effect immunity being shared every 10 seconds.

But yeah, Skill Damage reduction is pointless unless if I'm fighting rogue agents

[tiny oar]

even rogue agents its bad, the real threat is them shooting you not throwing skills

[sour void]

Agreed

You'd think it'd make you more resistant to True Son or Hyena turrets, but no

[tiny oar]

yeah its only agents skills

[sour void]

What I think we can benefit from is a Damage Core set that boosts rate of fire and magazine capacity by 50%, and have its main effect give you more fire rate the longer you hold down the trigger

[tiny oar]

nah that would be busted with bullet king

you'd have infinite rpm

[full zinc]

damage transfer allows nego to out damage striker when you have 3 npcs marked. can also destroy immune items(summit). transfer is conditioned on the target, so you can utilize dta or dttooc. as long as the target meets the condition (dttooc) the other marks will take increased damage even if they are in cover. nego one of the strongest sets in the game

[sour void]

Well, the boost will be capped to prevent players from turning into GAU-8 Avenger cannons

[tiny oar]

i really need to see one in action cause i cant see how it would be usefull

i know its just me not seeing it

but it really doesnt click for me

[sour void]

Unrelated, we also need a named Bracos Abacruz mask or gloves.

[tiny oar]

i think its only 1 named per brand ?

there is already one

[sour void]

I know. But I want two for my True Patriot Ninja Bike build

[tiny oar]

haha

[sour void]

You can get 400+ bullets in a GR9 or LAMG

Only other thing that would make it perfect is the PKM that the Hyena Tanks use with a 250 round super heavy box

[tiny oar]

yeah but thats not really usefull tbh

[sour void]

I know. I just want to go brrrrr

Casual stuff.

[tiny oar]

yeah thats why i use bullet king

with striker its just unstoppable

[sour void]

Had Elmo's Engine occupying my TP exotic, so that's why I looked for a High End LMG instead

On the topic of exotic ARs...
Maybe a Carbine 7 with a C-Mag?

[full zinc]

yeah, crits mark npcs . marks take crit damage equivalent to the target. its really easy to maintain 3 marks if you are hitting the npc groups as they spawn. other than the transfer, nego basically like using highend dps.
example: if im critting a target for 1mil, the 2 other marks will take also 1mil damage. crits basically would be worth 3mil in that case.

[sour void]

Negotiator plus Cold Relations makes mince meat out of enemy groups

[tiny oar]

yeah, i understand you're basically hitting aoe, but thing is, in any shooter game, you want to focus the main threat, not the shit ads that nobody cares about, so splitting dps isnt great

[full zinc]

idk, cold relations kinda mid since it takes the entire mag to reach full buff

[tiny oar]

like when you do 1m to 3 guys, the striker build will do 2m+ to the main guy

[full zinc]

its not splitting damage. it duplicates

[sour void]

It's more of a bonus if you spec it for Critical Hit Chance

[tiny oar]

its splitting damage in the sense you'd get more dps on 1 target with another build

you get this build = you sacrifice damage on your main target

to get it on other targets

and in this game, an enemy with 1 hp is as deadly as an enemy with full hp

so its always better to finish someone quickly rather than hitting multiple

im talking enemyes that tank a lot ofc, not red bars

[full zinc]

if its a target rich environment then you would still focus the biggest threat. if you got 2mil on a target with striker, but 3 mil on 3 npcs combined damage its still more dps at the end of the day.

[tiny oar]

yes, i know its more dps overall

[full zinc]

also no ramp up

[tiny oar]

but as i said, its not what matters

like, if you take 30s to kill 3 guy with this build, and you would take 20s on striker to kill 1, the striker can then spend the other 10s to kill the other 2 targets with their bonus damage stacked

(numbers arent accurate its the idea)

[full zinc]

in this logic it would take you 60 seconds to match what nego did in 30 seconds

[tiny oar]

how so ?

[sour void]

I just had an idea - exotic MP7 that has bullets ricocheting on a headshot, dealing critical hit damage to anyone within 10 meters

[full zinc]

yeah i get they are just arbitrary numbers

[tiny oar]

like, lets say you face 3 hunters on countdown

you crit all 3 so you can just focus 1, but you cant take it down alone your team is here to help

in the end, hunter 1 is dead, hunter 2 and 3 and mid hp, and then you go for them

meanwhile the striker build will take as long to kill the first hunter, but with damage stacked, will shred hunter 2 and 3

see what i mean ? thats why i cant see a good use for it mathematically

so what am i missing

[full zinc]

if its 20 seconds to kill 1 npc with striker , but 30 seconds for nego to kill 3 , then it takes striker twice as long to do the same work.

you would use striker in single target situations like cd/incursion/raid .. ofc. i agree with that.
but for basic mission/openworld nego is stronger

[tiny oar]

thats not true

if you take 20s to kill someone with striker, you wont take 20s for the 2nd target with the damage ramp up

[full zinc]

its what your statement said. im using your times that were mentioned

[tiny oar]

you missed the part where i talk about the bonus from striker that will take longer to kill the first hunter but will shred anyone after that

first hunter 20s, 2nd hunter 10s, etc

but in that scenario you dont solo a hunter either its a team effort

[full zinc]

even at full ramp youre still gonna take longer to match the work of nego that has no ramp.

[tiny oar]

i mean, elmo full clip is 70 stack already, i dont see it going slow

[full zinc]

that still puts you kills at 40 seconds for 3, where nego was stated to kill 3 in 30 seconds

[tiny oar]

you missed the part where i said you're not alone, meaning you killed one in 30s, and let the other hunter low hp

only your damage is shared right ?

if team damage was shared that would be different

so, if the time taken to kill 3 target is roughly the same

killing a target faster is the best call

for solo play vs lower difficulties i see it being used, you clear ads pretty fast this way

but for higher difficulties, i just cant see it

[full zinc]

this is kinda twisting up what you said originally, no mention of teamates killing the npcs for you.

[tiny oar]

i said it there

wait

[tiny oar]

here

[full zinc]

only your damage transfers. if you are planning single target stuff you would take striker, ofc

[tiny oar]

yes, but thats the thing i think is most important

target focus is always best

unless its for small ads that arent no problem

like you see a hunter, you arent thinking "hmm what if i hit that guy over there also", you think "ho shit better take him down"

same when you're vs a boss, ok you can kill 3/5 smaller enemies while shooting the boss, but if you killed the boss earlier with better damage build, the smaller enemies would be no problem ?

i dont want to be annoying, sorry if this is taking too long/too boring

[full zinc]

this is assuming nego wouldnt make the 3 kills, and honestly i dont think you were setup proper when you tried it. nego super solid but needs knowledge of the build to really make it shine

dont head back to single tanky enemies logic, ive already conceded that striker would be better in that type of situation

[tiny oar]

idk, maybe i should give it another try

[full zinc]

yeah , you really should 💯

[tiny oar]

im gonna need a good build for that

whats yours ?

[full zinc]

ceska oblit chest and either coyote or foxs

generally. you would build like striker

some like vigilance bag for a bit more single target, but i generally run the nego bag

ill post a ss in builds in a sec

[tiny oar]

dw im not in a hurry

you can dm me the build so i dont forget

my memory is completely fucked

[full zinc]

sent

[tiny oar]

ty man

[full zinc]

once used to the talent its just second nature to shift aim to keep 3 marks all the time. a lot of times ill position myself to hit a spawn or position so i have a line of sight on npcs incoming path. makes marking really simple.

[tiny oar]

yeah for sure, i see how to use it, i just dont see the value for now

but tomorrow i'll give it a try

need to sleep soon its almost 8am

[full zinc]

have a good night

[tiny oar]

ty

[earnest verge]

Hi all

[fiery cloud]

Hey Local

[opal radish]

Hey Saph

[full zinc]

good morning Saph ☕

[shell depot]

who thaugt is it a good idea to let beginners call for backup? i fast matchmake for SHD shepard to recieve the armpatch every 2nd to 3rd match is people level 10~ and asking me to leave .... they call for help (not even knowing why or how) its such a waste of time and also when i help they dont know how to endorse, i like that many new people play the game, but this is annoying also

[kind veldt]

it's their best way to matchmake as it's kinda iffy to find people of their level to play missions

[sour void]

They could've selected matchmaking from the mission menu at the start.

Did the game not explain thus clearly?

[kind veldt]

Amount of players of their level is the problem

Most people were either 40 or 30

From 1-29 makes matchmaking unreliable to find people

[full zinc]

I mean, calling for backup is pretty normal for new agents... they get downed and are prompted to call for backup, not knowing another agent is called instead of the npcs they been calling for control points.

As long as you just go through some activities you'll get auto endorsed anyways. It's really easy to hit 25 when you have such a long season.

Also kinda the whole point of the feature is to help new/under geared agents get through some stuff.

If you dont matchmake into shepherd and just look at shd tab when the call comes in, under leveled agents will show up as blue wings around ! instead of the normal orange icon

[shell depot]

it takes ages to reciev a back up call, matchmaking is almost instant

[kind veldt]

matchmaking IS NOT instant if they are from level 1-29

well probably 1-39 now with the changes

[shell depot]

dude iam 23shepard nnow the last days was instant

but many many new players

[heavy dirge]

This last Thursday, I was gates in to shepherd people through legendary manning not once, but twice. Let’s just say, I cherish every CFH from a sub-40 I get. Even if they don’t endorse

[crude plume]

how is it possible that the devs constantly push new content but old bugs remain untouched? for example fragile armor not working properly or even a more recent one with the medkits in descent not refilling as they should even with all the upgrades purchased.

[heavy dirge]

You know the classified assignment locations? On my map, I cannot fast travel to two of them. I can do so on other peoples maps, not mine. This bug has been in the game since the day it released, I’ve reported it repeatedly and it’s persisted across two wholly different PCs.

So you tell me…

I mean, I nearly fainted when they fixed the rogues bug in the tombs mission. That had been there since WONY released

[broken solstice]

these are classifieds you've completed?

[heavy dirge]

If I had to guess, when they restarted development of div2 they did so on a shoestring budget and with access to a lot of QA assets curtailed, so it’s a persistent struggle for the current team to balance new stuff with QA stuff. I don’t even blame the devs that much. I honestly feel like they are doing good work with the crappy hand they’ve been dealt. Blame the ubi beancounters.

[heavy dirge]

Yup. On several characters

[broken solstice]

what the hell

[heavy dirge]

The fact that it’s something that happens to some but not all means it’s something that will likely never be given any priority to fix, so I’ve just learned to live with it

[broken solstice]

thats seems like an accurate assessment

[heavy dirge]

I’d much rather they fix the state of CPs and the invasion.

[broken solstice]

yeah. some extra running doesn't hurt too hard. its pretty quick to get around

[heavy dirge]

I controlled all 24 of my CPs. Logging on to find all had flipped red really annoyed me

[broken solstice]

damn thats a lot of cps

[heavy dirge]

That said, one byproduct of this is that I just stopped caring about the invasion. With the invasion up, the factions would regularly send out attacks at my CPs, so every Tuesday, I would religiously send viper to hell.

Don’t miss it!

[broken solstice]

when i complete a cp like 15 min later i see that little red gun on the map of some faction going to retake the cp

[heavy dirge]

Yeah, if you control the whole map, you will get almost no takeovers

[broken solstice]

ah good to know

[heavy dirge]

In fact, the whole map becomes very tranquil

Not many random patrols, there are only 5 red events up at any time in all of DC

[crude tartan]

every time i go help a player and get back in my own game my cp's also went red

all

[heavy dirge]

yup, the status gets reset each time you reload the map. Say you just bumped a CP to 4 and don’t want to fight that? Go to nyc and back (or just go to one of the DZ gates) and it’s back to being a CP1-3

[crude tartan]

what annoys me most on my game since update is all my lmgs sounds silenced

[heavy dirge]

I only have that problem with LMGs

Which sorta sucks cuz they are by far my preferred weapon in descent. 😉

[crude tartan]

and ik it was a bug before and got fixed and now its back

[heavy dirge]

Yeah, the reversion of old bugs (like the max roll mod one) is sorta amusing

[crude tartan]

sadly lmg get you often kicked

[alpine gale]

hi all i take yet more bugs seems for last 2 weeks clan not gettting any xp and ive went up 67 shd levels today and shows zero xp at clan board

[tender tangle]

Its a bug that been out for everyone but the clan still gets the exp, just dont show the points earned for players etc...

[alpine gale]

@tender tangle ah i see so how do we get the clan cache reward

not able to collect it also it not showing any progress towards it

[tender tangle]

About that idk im new to the game so been lik 4 days im in and never got a cache

[tender tangle]

It dont show for me neither

Something we gotta deal with until they fix

[alpine gale]

dam typical ahwell to be expected i suppose bugs galore this game

[tender tangle]

Well idk what to say xD

[full zinc]

This is listed on the known issues board

[full zinc]

I think op was refering to shd shepherd matchmaking which wont give an option to join and just auto connects. It can be pretty quick compared to mission/ow matchmaking

[alpine gale]

@full zinc oh thats ok then atleast hopefully it fixed before the sound bug maybe

atleast ive had coney island matchmake now atm 11 times in arow ffs

[cyan narwhal]

i was in luck today. got blueprint of The gift and matador from descent

[strange tangle]

hello i need 1 last for finish lvl 100 The Summit

[hearty valve]

Advice for returning player after a year 155 shd

[torpid tendon]

You can solo it. Grab a scorpio, decoy ans shock trap, then stay behind tha "office counter" thing to the left. The only thing that can kill you there is the corrosive chems.

[fiery cloud]

Hey Ducks 👋

[quartz vigil]

hey people
i havent played in a while, so i started a fresh safe

did the descent replace the previous randomly generated tower of sorts? I dont really like this rogue like style they went for

[hybrid ore]

Nah you can still play Summit.

[quartz vigil]

oh neat

[torpid tendon]

I wish division 2 had something similar to the resistance from division 1

I never got past the wave 18

[quartz vigil]

by the way is there any gear set i should watch out for as an lmg enjoyer?
I already know which weapons are good i think

This is a fresh char so really im just relying on my Zero F's chestplate cause its gud

[torpid tendon]

Try #td2-build-advice , but btw, contractors gloves and lengmo gear, backbone bp.

[quartz vigil]

ah neat, that chat exists

thanks

[tiny oar]

ok so i ran the numbers

i crafter 300+ gear mods

i didnt got bleed res and armor on kill

not a single one in middle of thoses 300+ mods

[umbral hearth]

how do you have the resources for all that lmao

[tiny oar]

well i farmed a lot

[lunar hare]

sad thing, I get more of those instead of healing for my chem

[tiny oar]

rofl, i was struggling for a hunter puzzle

i couldnt understand why it wasnt working

and after looking on google, turns out the puzzle doesnt work at all, you have to ignore it and do something else

i fkin love that man

[small spear]

💀

[quartz vigil]

i kinda wanna try out snipers more
how rare is it to roll determined? I didnt get to extract it yet

[azure lintel]

The Division 3 is coming out in 7 years

[sour void]

IIRC, around 5% chance.
If you like the perfect version, the G28 Relic has got you covered.

[quartz vigil]

aight thanks

[heavy prism]

@small spear the man needs help

[quartz vigil]

im gonna have to scrounge up armor for it first anyway
been leaning hard into lmgs so far

[heavy prism]

Are you going to guide him into determined

[small spear]

just as rare as any talent

[quartz vigil]

i been wondering though

how do thesniper/rifle builds deal with heavily armoured hostiles?
usually their armor takes a couple of shots to pop

[small spear]

one shot to the helmet to pop helmet, next shot to kill again

[quartz vigil]

guess me just plyaying around with them isnt as effective as an actual build aorund them
who woulda thunk xD

[small spear]

yeah you need an actual build to do enough damage lol

[tiny oar]

if you're lucky

[winged bolt]

folks,

when will I get 71/71 items in the standard apparel caches

My watch is level ~2200, I've got ~1000 hours, and still stuck on 70/71

[red juniper]

¿Algún español?

[lunar hare]

Perfect version is obsolete and gross.

[tiny oar]

prob never, also they might add more cosmetic someday so that wouldnt help
but check what the last item is, and if you can buy it with textiles

[tiny oar]

ingles

[azure lintel]

Is the sound broken for everyone else or is it just me?

[tiny oar]

yes

[lunar hare]

he left, smh.

[lunar hare]

LMG's and Rifles

[azure lintel]

Ah, i see they updated the game and yet they still managed to break something completely different. The Ubisoft Way

[sour void]

I just thought I'd give alternatives. Getting new Talents from scrap weapons is painful.

probably doesn't help that I'm fatally addicted to Perfect Talents and Named Weapons

[full zinc]

you can also craft some mmr to get the talent for extraction if it isnt dropping from farming

[quartz vigil]

ah yeah thats an idea

[full zinc]

yeah, perfect determined totally broken and doesnt work afaik.

[halcyon fjord]

Anyone want to carry me through paradise 😎 🙏

[full zinc]

ranger/behind you/optimist all ok talents as an alternative until you get determined.

[full zinc]

#lfg-td2incursion-console

[stark palm]

What do most ppl save for in the global event vendor?

[sour void]

RIP Hotshot build

[quartz vigil]

Where do people go to farm gear by the way
I've been doing the summit because I can comfortably run it solo, but my clear speed isn't the best, since I don't really have real builds yet

Doesn't help im working towards both an LMG and a sniper load out at the same time

[sour void]

Countdown, and Challenging/Heroic missions if you want to target specific loot.

[quartz vigil]

Neat thanks

[sour void]

🙂

[sour void]

You could also try Descent if you're really up to it.

The NSA Tech can be turned in for caches.

[quartz vigil]

I tried it out but I don't think I like the gameplay style they're going for with descent

[sour void]

I don't blame you. Descent feels downright oppressive at times.

[quartz vigil]

It's really hard to make up my mind
I know I need to focus on one thing to make the subsequent farming for the other builds I wanna try faster, but also both the one tap nature of a sniper and the bullet hose that is the LMG are respectively really fun

[umbral hearth]

countdown is easily the best place to farm for gear

run challenging, youll have a finished build in at least two-three runs

[quartz vigil]

Aight, I'll run some countdown then

[sick thicket]

havent played since they removed gear score. will a 29 regulus build still cut it for a ny/dc xp run?

[stark heron]

Level 29 gear funnily enough is fine

Gear that became level 30 got the worst possible stats applied to them, for me at least

[full zinc]

Exotic caches mostly.

named caches can drop dz exclusive items . So worth buying if farming named items.
Legacy caches can drop system corruption gearset (also dz exclusive)

[stark palm]

Yea just bought a few exotic caches 😂

[full zinc]

That's all I buy anymore. Exo components ftw

[torpid tendon]

Really depends on... Personally I go with resources caches. I buy a ton of them lol.

[stark palm]

Yea fair one

[steep viper]

Is there a dark zone chat? Looking for people to just farm with

[tiny oar]

just go in the normal lfg and say you look for dz

[full zinc]

@novel laurel , another disciple 👆

[novel laurel]

I'm on pc now!

[full zinc]

I thought you were on both

[full zinc]

#td2-pvp-discussions will have pvp'ers from all platforms. its not exactly a lfg channel but itll give you an idea who is on ps and maybe can reach out

[sour void]

I remember going to the DZ just for Landmarks and XP

Exotic loot be damned, for I already had everything, even the raid exotics

[novel laurel]

I have my ps5 still but don't really play

[ruby fractal]

What does it mean when isaac says “rouge agent detected” in free roam?

[lunar hare]

That there's a rogue agent nearby

[ruby fractal]

Like from manhunt?

In the open map?

I thought they only spawned inside missions

[hybrid ore]

@ruby fractal Rogue Agents can spawn in the open world, during Summit, replace a random non-boss encounter during Missions, etc.

[ruby fractal]

I see , thanks

[hybrid ore]

They always spawn in a "group size+1" configuration. So a solo Agent will fight 2, 4 Agents will fight 5.

[small spear]

momento, decent, rouge

[tulip frost]

Rogues are fun to fight, just wish they were more frequent; haven’t seen one in a long while since they always despawn before I find them.

[hybrid ore]

IIRC they're on a 30 minute timer in most cases, farming will get you some eventually.
Most commonly in missions.

[stark geyser]

just reached 40 lvl yesterday. I saw many players have green and red gears. I wonder how they get those things ? I did lot of activities around the map, even did summit on challenging diff SOLO and reached 27th floor but didn't got any till now. My SHD lvl is also 9. how can I get those things

[crude tartan]

whats a good sidearm to use

[ruby fractal]

Green are Gear Sets and red are Exotics . Exotics have different requisitions but hit R on the Map and it will tell you where each Green Gear loot pool is allocated for the day

[stark geyser]

oh I see

[ruby fractal]

D50 or 686 Magnum if you are not using any Exotics get the Liberty it’s really good

[stark geyser]

I press R and its showing some main missions on the map. do I have to play those main missions on Hard Diff or any diff will gave me those gears ?

[ruby fractal]

Nope you can do them on normal and the green gear will still drop

[stark geyser]

omg, ty sm for the help brother 🙂

actually I play solo so playing on hard diff is like a nightmare for me 🥲

[ruby fractal]

From what I have tested harder difficulties doesn’t yield more drops tho it might get you better rolls ( stats attributes )

[ruby fractal]

I feel you , I’m stuck on challenging I’m trying to get to that Heroic tier

Maxing out your specialization can give you a boost

[stark geyser]

yesterday when I was playing Summit 2 rogue agent spawned on lvl 25 or 26. they just destroyed me in 40 sec even in challenging diff

[ruby fractal]

I can’t imagine ppl who have done 100 on heroic

[stark geyser]

whattttt, 100 lvls ????? omfg

they must be very good at this game

[ruby fractal]

🤔 this game is not so much skill based as it is build based more so on the PVE side. The bread and butter is in gearing up.

[crude tartan]

grind heavy game really

and have good luck with rolls on drops

[ruby fractal]

Well yeah that’s the nature of looter shooter genre

Imagine when this game first dropped their where no loot pools, no target areas to grind for certain gear…THAT was a grind

[crude tartan]

i kinda miss the survival mode from div 1

that was some spice

[stark geyser]

yeah its true. better build better agent

[ruby fractal]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they implemented that in D3, since the original dev team is still behind production and a lot of people would like to see survival again

[crude tartan]

well i liked the cocnept of the blizard and so, which might explain why it was ahrder to put in div 2

[full zinc]

means red alert

[stark geyser]

bro one more question, If I play those green main mission while my GURDIAN turned on, do I still get those green and red drops from the missions ?

[ruby fractal]

I looked everywhere didn’t find them

[ruby fractal]

Guardian won’t effect drops

[full zinc]

they are usually close by at an activity when its open world

[crude tartan]

when your running around free and it sudden says rogue agent detected, where you find him?

[ruby fractal]

I was so hyped coz even the music got turnt 😂

But nothing

I was like “ Sh!T it’s on now”

[stark geyser]

ty sm for the info ❤️

[ruby fractal]

Glad I can be of service to another agent

[ruby fractal]

Isaac be trolling

To quote Manny Ortega “ stup!d Watch”

[hybrid ore]

What is supposed to happen, is that static appears on your screen, then you get closer to the source and they are there.

[ruby fractal]

When I get the static I get no notification actually.

[crude tartan]

i am actuall blind :p and didn't read up

[stark geyser]

@ruby fractal bro got a green BAG from a main mission. ty sm again for the info 🫡

[quartz vigil]

where is the seasonal vendor btw?

i didnt now one even existed so i mnay have to read up

[lunar hare]

when you spawn at the BoO, go right and look right again

[quartz vigil]

thanks

you recon id be carried if i queued into heroic countdown

[lunar hare]

Heroic CD is not to be carried, so you'll get kicked lol
You need a proper build and knowledge of the gamemode to not get kicked

[quartz vigil]

damn xD

[lunar hare]

I've got to Heroic CD with a basic Striker build and just go shred everything with oreo

Usually using striker chest to deal more damage with that stacking boost

[hybrid ore]

Heroic Countdown sounds more impressive than it is.
Due to weird scaling, Challenging Countdown gives almost heroic-tier rolls on gear anyway.

[opal radish]

We need legendary countdown tbh

With the buffs we get

[hybrid ore]

Countdown is more about a time spent:loot ratio, more-so than Challenge.

[opal radish]

Challenge is fun makes loot farming more enjoyable

[slow ocean]

Has anyone been getting an issue where the friends list is completely empty? Only the clan list is visible. Inviting from the launcher also produces an error. Is this a preexisting bug?

[stark geyser]

hello, anyone know why I cant start field research of Gunner ?

I have the year one Bundle still start field research option is not working

[flint lotus]

Hello Im downloading division 2 with the dlcs so im wondering if anyone want to Squad up or duo with me 🌝

[broken solstice]

i think the intro parts of the original game and the wony expansion have to be done solo. you might want to get your bearings and basics down solo for a while solo before grouping up

[alpine gale]

so anybody know how we can get clan xp cache my clan going crazy atm we havent been able to collect gold for awhile

the bugs atm are getting out of hand

[broken solstice]

my clan didnt get one this past week either

which is unusual

[alpine gale]

does anything work atm in this game i was running missions and at the end pitch balck rooms lol

[broken solstice]

damn. yeah ive been running some open world stuff where the second wave never spawns, or gets lost or something so i dont get my damn xp

[alpine gale]

cant wait for seasons log in and downtime for 99yrs lol

[kind veldt]

Its bugged

[flint lotus]

can someone tell me what the Division 2 ultimate edition offers ingame? it says packs and the warlords of new york dlc with 1 year pass what do i get ingame

[kind veldt]

year 1 pass is osme small exclusive missions that are called classified assigments, early unlock of specializations, and maybe extra cosmedics.

warlords of new york is the new york map and campaign

[broken solstice]

my favorite part about it is that the classifieds can be used as extra fast travel points. which isnt saying much. but i got ultimate on sale for less than 15 bucks

[slow ocean]

7 classified assignments (self contained missions), 2 exotics + exotic skins, early access to specialisations without having to do their field research, skill vanity skins/effects for Shield, incendiary turret, firefly and drone

WONY gives you NY South map and the WONY campaign, along with WONY exclusive exotics and gear

[halcyon fjord]

Nah okay I've given up the games crashed on my last 3/5 countdown runs it's so washed tf I'm on ps5 as well

[broken solstice]

thats a shame. i stopped playing for like a year when the game crashed all the time. when i came back and tried again the problem was gone. but yea it drove me to stop playing temporarily at least

[inner elbow]

Slight correction: 7 classified assignments

Which is really helpful in the open world as additional fast travel points

[slow ocean]

Ah yeah changing it now

[quartz vigil]

determined popping hyena helmets is both incredibly funny and annoying to me xD

[inner elbow]

It's just annoying to me

[autumn bramble]

I really hope the devs don't only focus on the LMG's as there are Assault Rifles and Rifles like the UIC15 MOD 2 that also has no sound when firing

Referring to Missing SFX with LMG weapons. 👆

[blazing sleet]

no sound with ravenous too

[prisma marsh]

im so confused about the general anderson manhunt rn

how do you start it??

[full zinc]

Its bugged atm. Only for about a week and a half at this point... it's not a big deal tho tbh so not sure why "clan is going crazy"

[glass scarab]

Hello guys I have a small question : What is the purpose of the Apparel Cache key ? I spent 75 of them and only got ONE new hat. The 74 others were duplicates of cosmetics that I had already. Am I just unlucky or did I miss an announcement from ubi that made it clear that the keys are useless and that all you have to do to get cosmetics is pull out your credit card ? 😕

[broken solstice]

the credits you get from getting duplicate items can be saved up to buy caches from danny weaver every week. once you have all the available apparel then they're all duplicates. which used to be worth almost nothing but at least now theres something you can do with that

[glass scarab]

Ok thanks for the answer. But when I check I don't even finish half of the cosmetics set avaible. That's why I was thinking it's weird. :l

[broken solstice]

oh damn

yeah that might be a bug i dunno

[glass scarab]

Well it's just "a bit" frustrating. Because I tried to find "official" answer and found nothing about that. :l

The event key cache works fine but the regular one still give me duplicates cosmetics. :l

[broken solstice]

yea i have no idea if apparel items you already have will keep popping up even if you haven't already collected everything

[glass scarab]

Anyway, thanks for your answer. I wonder if it's only me or if that happened to someone else too. :l

[kind veldt]

event apparel dont have any duplicates, regular apparel are a bunch of cosmedics that enter rotation every couple of months, so you probably already had what was offered there except one item

and regular ones has duplicates

[stark palm]

Is there a cool-down on the chances of getting exotics in open world?

[azure lintel]

Why would there be a cooldown on exotic drops

[glass scarab]

Ok. Thank you for that clarification. But was it specified somewhere this story of rotation in cosmetics that can be had in "normal" chest ? 😮

[stark palm]

I got told if I got one, there’s a min of 30mins of when I could get one

[spare cove]

I think that person was lying to you

[lunar hare]

Block that guy. Jk. That's such a lie.

[stark palm]

That mofo haha

[azure lintel]

Right how many mob spawns and luck do you need for the devs to add a cooldown on drops

Most of my exotics are from caches tbh

[lunar hare]

Hope he's not the "put Health/Headshot Damage on your st Elmo's because DTOC doesn't work" type

[stark palm]

I haven’t done anything to my elmos yet I’m learning still haha

[spare cove]

Like the game itself has problems, don't get me wrong. But you don't need to lie to new players about certain aspects. xD

[lunar hare]

someone tried to fool me that LD was better than Oreo back when I was one lvl away from 40

I already knew that was a lie

[spare cove]

LD?

[real moth]

Probably Lady Death

[spare cove]

Oh yeah. Haven't used that one yet. Maybe I could try it with my HF build

[real moth]

It's nice but it falls off on higher difficulties imo

As enemies get tankier, the relatively small mag size (32) starts to hold it back

[broken solstice]

only reason i use lady death is for the speed boost when im trying to get a decent time for league missions

[real moth]

I mean running fast is also just inherently fun imo

[broken solstice]

yep

[kind veldt]

it's not great for groups

no problem for solo

[spare cove]

Figures. I could use it on open world stuff, maybe? It could use a buff in mag size

[kind veldt]

the talent takes care of damage, for open world solo stuff you should be fine

[spare cove]

Gotcha

[kind veldt]

important is to stay on hte move

[spare cove]

Gotcha

[frozen meadow]

im convinced the next manhunt mission is in fed bunker

[spare cove]

Are you referring to the climax mission?

And if so, why?

[umbral hearth]

after 4 days of farming, ive finally gotten every single blueprint possible from control points

im finally free

[lunar hare]

nuh uh
Descent 😈

[umbral hearth]

please no

im so tired

this has been hell

i never want to do another control point again

[broken solstice]

im not bothering with any of the descent ones. and descent is so much more annoying than repeating CPs

[umbral hearth]

also, top three worst CPs in order: Taxi Graveyard, Ivy Tunnel, New Venice

also have a newfound hatred for elite grenader enemies

they hide more than the stupid snipers do

[broken solstice]

yea. dont get too comfortable in a good spot or BANG!

[spare cove]

Given how Black Tusk is one of my two favorite enemy factions to fight, I do wish they'd take over control points in the open world.

[umbral hearth]

honestly same

mainly because of the potential crafting resources

now that ive got all the optimization blueprints, im bleeding carbon fiber and steel

[torpid tendon]

"Releasing UAV" 💀💀💀

[spare cove]

Then I shoot their drones and they go boom

[torpid tendon]

Then they do it again, and again, and again..... and again.

[spare cove]

PTSD from Legendary missions, I take it?

Yeah, White Tusk are nasty fuckers.

[torpid tendon]

Yeah, white tusk.... But they're the same thing lol

[spare cove]

Probably. But they still die like any Black Tusk troops

[torpid tendon]

I div1 the only thing that makes legendary hard are the dam medics... In division 2, the drone operators are even worse

[spare cove]

A constant truth in Legendary missions.

There's always gotta be an enemy archetype that's a pain to deal with

[torpid tendon]

You literally MUST kill them, otherwise your team is done for.

[torpid tendon]

My ptsd comes from tidal basin. Idk, that mission is so hard that it could be an incursion.

Even on heroic.

[spare cove]

Yeah, I played it once. I'd rather deal with Legendary DUA or Capitol Hill.

[small spear]

i love zoo legendary

[torpid tendon]

The only hard part on DUA is where you fight Diesel..... CUZ OF THE DAM DRONES

[spare cove]

I played that once. Liked seeing the heavy duo using shields.

They should do it more often.

[small spear]

it's always fun showing new people the ropes in it. i've run it so many times

[spare cove]

I've been having fun doing Paradise Lost that I wanna do Sherpa runs for it.

[torpid tendon]

Zoo is easy, except for the jammer area.

[small spear]

there are 2

[torpid tendon]

Are there? I can only remember the bamboo area one.

[small spear]

the one right after that too

[torpid tendon]

Oh yas, the "garden like" area with stairs?

[small spear]

birdhouse, bamboo and temple (how i call that area) are the 3 hardest stages in zoo imo

[torpid tendon]

Oooh I remember now, there are a few heavies there

But theres some cover

[small spear]

birdhouse can either take 4 minutes or 20 depending on how the team handles it too

yeah temple isn't the hardest

[torpid tendon]

Idk, that bamboo and temple areas kinda brings me some nioh vibes lol

[spare cove]

I probably should use LFGs for legendaries since matchmaking is like a roll of the dice

[small spear]

the most fun i had was taking 3 sub 100 shds through zoo lol

[torpid tendon]

I wonder if it's possible to solo legendaries with HF. I'll give it a try, I'm pretty sure I'll have some fun tho 🥲

[small spear]

which variant of HF? crit or HH?

[torpid tendon]

Crit

HH is probably doable

[small spear]

shouldn't be too hard. try capitol

crit is a bit more forgiving but less killing potential

[torpid tendon]

Yeah, from my experience with legendary the summit, the only thing that can easily kill you are the mini tanks, they just shred your shield ad armor.

A freaking tier 5 shield

[small spear]

yep, minitanks and grenade dogs are highest priority targets

[tiny oar]

how do you report a bug to ubi ?

i mean massive

like i want to report the blueprint not dropping

[kind veldt]

#rules has a link to support

[spare cove]

#lfg-pc

[agile pendant]

the mental of div 2 players is so weak and fragile they rage at one death... or wipe

[tiny oar]

thats the mental of every gamer in history lol

[agile pendant]

just had a player rage at the end of union station/whatever mission

rage quit just before the final boss

lol

[tiny oar]

yeah, thats not surprising

ui see a lot of people ragequitting at random moments

even during reward time

like, you're facing the boss, they got 10 hp left, they get down and ragequit

[agile pendant]

see thats weak shyte lol

when i was new to the game , i did heroic through mm. i would go down often, usually mutiple times in one mission but i never rage quit. i used this to level myself to 250shd before finding out how good countdownsd were

[hybrid ore]

Sometimes it's best to know when to cut your losses if something is a lost cause.

It's a balancing act for sure.

[tiny oar]

yeah, but most of them dont even think

they see a death screen they smash their keyboard and then quit

[half laurel]

i wish this game had a "select 1 mission you dont want" as part of "random missions"

i dont like the keener thing, its not hard just boring

[kind veldt]

i hate the zoo mission

got mathmaked into it 5 times in a roll

[azure lintel]

why my message got deleted xd

[azure lintel]

i should not say it ?

[hybrid ore]

@azure lintel This is the general chat, you're looking for #lfg-pc

[azure lintel]

thanks

[tiny oar]

i mean, if you get matched in it, just leave ?

its not the worst

[proud sky]

Trying to play D2 again. I've got so much stuff in inventory and stash. Is there a website that will help me to evaluate weapons and gear to decide what to keep and what to trash?

[ruby fractal]

Directives suck but I’m climbing the SHD levels quick just from doing world events and CPs

I see there’s no clear cap on the watch but to unlock all the points it’s 1k right?

[kind veldt]

as far as i am aware no one has reached any cap on watch level

but yeah for the point things in all stats is 1k

[tiny oar]

i dont think there is a cap

i mean there is one in the code but its must be so high its impossible to even get close

[ruby fractal]

Yeah but they don’t really mean anything after 1k that’s what I wanted to know. It will probably take me a month to get to 1k

[tiny oar]

it gives materials

thats always something

but even if anyone get to the cap, it will prob reset like the damage counter in mission recap anyway

[radiant gulch]

any tips for a new td2 player

[ruby fractal]

Ooh the bottom portion continues to give points then where you can get mats or ecreds?

[tiny oar]

have fun first, follow builds in #td2-build-advice for lategame

[tiny oar]

yes

[ruby fractal]

Sweet!

[radiant gulch]

having fun is lame, im tryna get straight into ts

[ruby fractal]

lol it’s like a division agent paycheck

[tiny oar]

ts ?

[ruby fractal]

Nooooo

The game is actually fun and has deep lore

[radiant gulch]

this shit

[tiny oar]

bro its a game

its meant to be fun

if you want not to have fun go to work or something

xd

[radiant gulch]

i have fun when i know what im working for

what build im tryna achieve

[tiny oar]

if you start the game you wont have a build until lategame

also it teaches you the basics

[ruby fractal]

Builds are an end game thing. You swap out gear like underwear while leveling

[proud sky]

Haven't played in a couple of years. Was well into endgame then. Gotta clean out my stash and inventory. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[tiny oar]

check #td2-build-advice to know what to aim for

[proud sky]

Any advice on what not to breakdown? I need to make room just to pick crap up but am afraid I'll trash something good.

[tiny oar]

tbh, even if you trash something good you can drop it later

except exotics, everything is easy to farm

[ruby fractal]

Work on maxing out your Gear library before throwing anything out. Talents and core attributes

[tiny oar]

yeah library is important

then expertise

[ruby fractal]

You will need a good library when you start making your build

And yeah then donate to expertise because realistically you are not gonna max that out using all the gear that’s insane

I feel like increasing global difficulty does nothing for drops but adding directives gives better RNG

[agile pendant]

side note i finally reached exp lv20 lol

only 6 more to go

[proud sky]

Thanks. I had forgotten about the library. Not much to max out, but still a few.

[tiny oar]

global difficulty only affect open world, not missions, higher difficulties gives you better loot, i think directive might help a bit but not much

[ruby fractal]

I hope that’s the case I’m just now getting to where challenging is not a challenge

Running it with 4 directives to get SHD up quicker

[tiny oar]

yeah go heroic imo

[small spear]

higher difficulty increases the base rolls

and for some exotics it increases drop rate

[tiny oar]

yep

[ruby fractal]

I’ll give it a shot, not sure if I’m ready for yellow sponges

[tiny oar]

tbh if you clear challenging easy with directives, heroic will be fine

[ruby fractal]

Cool, changing it now

Wow why am I nervous lol

[small spear]

try challenging at least so you don't get purple drops from enemies

but heroic is the way to go

[ruby fractal]

Oh wow all CPs are default lvl4?

[small spear]

yeah

lv4 = heroic

[ruby fractal]

That’s cool and man I absolutely hate purple drops it’s a slap in the face

Yeah I get all my CPs to 4 on challenging

Didn’t know I was doing Heroic

[small spear]

yeah you've basically been doing heroic cps all this time

[ruby fractal]

…woah, I’m feeling really accomplished rn lol

[tiny oar]

yeah cp 4 are heroic, you been doing heroic the entire time lol

[ruby fractal]

Let’s Gooooo

So I’m one shot killing heroic mobs that’s amazing

[tiny oar]

nice

[ruby fractal]

My mind is blown, I can’t believe I’m playing Heroic

And not struggling

[spare cove]

Are you using a determined build?

[ruby fractal]

Jaja yeah

2 piece breaking 2 piece Hot shot and 1 Habsburg chest with Headhunter

And ninja bike to tie it all in

It’s not fully optimized and I’m at 177 SHD

I’ve seen a lot of people bash on determined but it’s a fun build

[tiny oar]

i mean, there are better builds for sure

but if you have fun thats all you need

[ruby fractal]

I def put fun first even if it’s not the best build

[spare cove]

I've been having lots of fun with Hunter's Fury even though it's not the meta DPS build

[ruby fractal]

I want to make a build with Hunter it looks really fun. I’ll switch my Banshee to my main weapon with that

[hybrid ore]

Hunters Fury is excellent and is absolutely a form of meta build, if not quite as good as something like Strikers.
the self-sustain on it alone is great.
I highly recommend you try both versions of it at some point, both the crit SMG setup and the headshot version.

[ruby fractal]

CQB sounds like fun with Hunters

[hybrid ore]

There's a full guide for both written out by our resident Raucey.
it's a google doc 📌 pinned over in #td2-build-advice, called "spreadsheet 2."

[ruby fractal]

Sweet , I’ll check that out

[inner elbow]

Directives increase the chance of obtaining additional loot drop

[inner elbow]

Determined is fine, but I'm gonna bash on Ninjabike

[ruby fractal]

Lmao

[hybrid ore]

To clarify: Targeted Loot works as a potential extra drop on top of what an enemy normally would already drop, and Directives slightly increase that chance per each added.

[ruby fractal]

All I know I’m taking them off once I hit 1k SHD.At least the ammo and shield one is annoying. Sometimes the game bugs out and repair kits won’t fix the damage and I have to log out

[full zinc]

now add 4 directives and those heroic cp with be an shd per takeover

[ruby fractal]

That’s how I’ve been playing

[full zinc]

nice

[ruby fractal]

4 directives on Heroic. I just don’t do the cool skills coz I rely on my skills a lot

Is there an increase to cp lvl 5?

How hard is that compared to a 4

[inner elbow]

Does not exist

[azure lintel]

@hybrid ore Hey Rivens, a few days ago I was talking about farming a DTA/DTTOOC Determined Adrestia and I thought your name came up in the convo, are you hunting for it as well?

[ruby fractal]

So if I do the event tied to a lvl 4 nothing happens ?

[inner elbow]

You would have to be on a global difficulty higher than Heroic, which does not exist

[inner elbow]

Correct

[ruby fractal]

Oh wow

Cool

[inner elbow]

But that does not mean you shouldn't do them. Some activities are worthwhile with the xp they give for the small amount of engagement

[ruby fractal]

Yeah for sure last night I got my first Coyote Mask from a Hostage event

And that was on challenging

So I’m optimistic about playing Heroic

[ivory tulip]

I just opened 2 exotic caches and it crashed my game. Both of the exotics dropped on the ground, did I just loose both of those?

[azure lintel]

log back in quick

if you were in countdown or a raid or something theyre gone, if you were playing solo in most game modes even sometimes heroic missions theyll still be there as long as it wasnt you alt-f4ing or closing the task

[ruby fractal]

I don’t. See the point in using decoy, the drone already pulls Aggro and it hits back

[small spear]

decoy takes aggro of everyone

[ruby fractal]

So it pulls all the mobs? Simultaneously?

[small spear]

yes

[ivory tulip]

Yep there both gone, that’s some bullshit because my pack was nowhere near full, same with my mail

[small spear]

at low skill tier if you shoot at anyone they will notice you very fast

but at high skill tier it will take a few shots before the mob changes aggro from decoy back to you

it's the best tank in the game if you're not dealing with emp

[azure lintel]

Decoy is worth dropping expertise in, even at skill tier 0 you can toss one and most likely run past mobs even on legendary

[ruby fractal]

Ok good to know, thanks for clearing that up for me

[small spear]

if you're curious, you can watch a few capitol building solo legendary runs, at least a few minutes into it. the decoy at the beginning makes the rush strat work

decoy is very strong even for legendary

[ruby fractal]

I just use my drone so I can get a clear shot

[azure lintel]

some mobs arent affected though, i believe outcase suicide rushers give 0 fs about decoy they always go for you

[ruby fractal]

That’s a snipers worst enemy I swear

[ivory tulip]

Yeah most of the rushers don’t care at all, it’s even more annoying when they’re cleaners

[small spear]

nah they do go for decoy, distance also factors into it

[ruby fractal]

I usually knock em from far but some sneaky ones spawn up close

[ivory tulip]

Really? Huh must’ve been a bug on my end

[small spear]

the most effective way to use it is instant use, so you drop it at your feet

tossing it is less reliable as during the time it's thrown, it's not active

[azure lintel]

maybe it's just descent then, i know 100% in descent they dont care, you toss a tier 6 at a spawn door you arent camping and all mobs will just sit at the door shooting it, but the rushers dont care, theyll run across the room for you immediately

[small spear]

yeah i don't use decoy in descent... 🤣

at high loops even st6 decoy gets shredded

[ivory tulip]

Is descent even worth playing? I only just got back into the game this season

[spare cove]

Enemies in Descent are pretty gnarly

[azure lintel]

its useful, in higher loops snipers will never leave cover unless youre exposed, and if youre rocking a run and gun shotgun setup its bad times trying to get to them without it

[small spear]

i just do shotgun and sniper, at least in greed

emp sticky and shock trap are my goto

[azure lintel]

i usually do revive hive and decoy or defender drone myself

ive still to this day not figured out what "revive token" does. Ive never had it active ever once ive purchased it

[ruby fractal]

Yup it’s def an SHD point per CP takeover

[small spear]

if you're reviving someone by hand from dead or reviving yourself from dead, you need to use revive token

[inner elbow]

I hate using the drone because it makes enemies flinch/bob back and forth making it harder to get a headshot.

[small spear]

if you use hive to revive anyone including yourself, you don't use token

[azure lintel]

Ive never had it work with or without reviver hive equipped solo

[small spear]

yeah solo you don't need to care lol

it's only for group

[azure lintel]

ok, that explains it then

[small spear]

basically reviving anyone with hive does not use the token

err, actually reviving yourself from dead with hive does use the token, but it will still work even if you don't have token

spaghetti code strikes again

[ruby fractal]

This is true

But I get the ball rolling with flash bangs I use the drone just so not all the mobs are focused on me

And drone is great for taking fixers out of cover

[small spear]

the best way to guarantee a headshot is to bait them to melee you then headshot them 🤣

[inner elbow]

^ master of baiting

[ruby fractal]

Sounds like too much work

[inner elbow]

Ok determined user lmao

[small spear]

yeah don't take me seriously. just focus on landing headshots consistently

if you play aggressive like me though you will definitely benefit from it

[ruby fractal]

It’s easier than bating I think

[inner elbow]

It is

[ruby fractal]

I’ll stay determined

I find a cozy spot to perch, then I poach

[hybrid ore]

I actually do have one, although it took a few runs.

[lapis junco]

bro got fucked in real time lmao

[hybrid ore]

That was a bot actually.

gotta secure your accounts, Agents. 2fa all day all the way.

[azure lintel]

what happened?

[lapis junco]

someone clicked on a discord only fans server scam link

[kind veldt]

not very smart people

[hybrid ore]

Sometimes peoples accounts just get overtaken due to inadequate security, and then the bots use them to spam posts on big servers.
It's not always clicking on links.

I had mine stolen a few years back due to re-using passwords.

[lapis junco]

its less common but yeah most of the time its the scam links because people are addicted to the hub

learn how to use bitmaps and make your password a bit map

[tiny oar]

yeah using the same password for different accounts is usually pretty bad

any password manager would be better

(im not doing that cause im lazy but we all should)

[hybrid ore]

It's not even all that complex. Just use a phrase that only means something to you, and add in numbers/symbols somewhere inside.

if all else fails, write it down. Most password theft is digital.

[azure lintel]

I do that, but I'm thinking most people who get their accounts compromised aren't being bruteforced 😛

[tiny oar]

yeah but thats not the issue, if a website has a security leak, your password is elaked too

and all your accounts on other stuff become vulnerable

happen on the regular

[lapis junco]

I use protons but most of my gaming related or discord accounts are just different passwords and I remember them

[lapis junco]

its token grabbers most of the time

recently the hacked accounts ive seen dont even bother changing passwords, they grab it bot the links you get banned from everything and thats it

[hybrid ore]

Okay that's about the limit for this here, feel free to keep going over in #off-topic-discussions

[tiny oar]

no, most of them click on scam link

yeah its off topic

lets focus

(and not the talent)

[small spear]

binoculars

man it's been a while since i last said it

[spare cove]

Ngl, I do like the icon designs of weapon and gear talents

[torpid tendon]

What happened here? What's this commotion all about? Should I bring my own fork and torch too? IDK I'M LOST, I'M UNSURE...

[spare cove]

Some bot account made its way here. It got dealt with

[torpid tendon]

Oh, I see why the off topic thing now.

[agile pendant]

just the sheriff hunting down some bounties

[tiny oar]

thats another one down

good job agent

[agile pendant]

why does the new shotty feel so weak...

[kind veldt]

The exotic is just an ksg, not really strong or too weak

Mostly that pummel combo became iconic for the gun, so the movement speed only interesting for pvp

[torpid plume]

Determined is the best

[inner elbow]

I used determined when I feel lazy. Which is pretty ironic

Determined turns a FPS shooter into a point-and-click game ecksdee

[small spear]

heads are meant to be clicked organically.

[magic blaze]

Got the same pistol from an exotic cache 3 times in a row.

Wtf..

[inner elbow]

If only that was Regulus

[full zinc]

3 good components, dont look a gift horse in the mouth

[flint lotus]

play?

[ruby fractal]

What’s going on

[full zinc]

running daily projects, blowing shit up 🔥

[flint lotus]

can someone help me

i got the division 2 ultimate edition but didnt give me the stuff

[stark geyser]

game is crashing whenever I'm using the global chat. mostly whisper chat

is this a known issue ?

[magic blaze]

To get a full red build do u just have to get lucky with farming loot?

[lunar hare]

For the right rolls and talents or named items, yes, you don't need to seek for god rolled gear.
btw, use Targeted Loot.

[magic blaze]

Isn't that insanely difficult tryna get crit chance and dmg on all attributes for each item

wtf.

[lunar hare]

Not really

[stark geyser]

can anyone help me farming St. Elmo's Engine ?

[timber hatch]

Using whispers is a known thing that crashes your game

[stark geyser]

I see, I didn't know that. my game crashed 4 times because I use that chat

[opal radish]

When did they add this new feature?

I guess that's why I send you whisper and you don't answer

[tropic sentinel]

With season update. Hopefully they'll improve it so that both players crash, cause now it's not that fun.

[stark geyser]

yeah. now its soo one sided

[fair lake]

Not a glitch but another great feature

[inner elbow]

no maintenance announced? wow another week of unsolved bugs

[azure lintel]

W we love it rn

[inner elbow]

usually when I whisper, the other party doesn't receive it. it's very unfortunate.

[opal radish]

Ik this reminds me of my legendary conversation with @timber hatch long lost twin brother

[kind veldt]

guess you could say it's a bit of... an careless whisper

[spare cove]

Badum-tsss

[inner elbow]

never gonna chat again
buggy game's got no freedom

[tiny oar]

imma hit you

[kind veldt]

good luck with that

[tiny oar]

i dont need luck i need a good scope

[small spear]

binoculars, even

[tiny oar]

i'll binocular you in the ass just so you wait

[broken solstice]

i was going to hit someone over careless whisper it would be because they said its not a good song

[stark heron]

Honestly I'd be fine with a maintenance thats like, a few days long

These 5 hour maintenance sessions are resolving near enough nothing

Though that would make more room for more problems

[tiny oar]

div 2 dev team got smaller with time

they dont have the manpower to solve every bug AND create content

the 5h maintenance isnt what they need to solve bugs, its to update the game and servers

what they need is more ressources and time, like months to solve the problems

and that would mean 0 content for that time period

[frosty wadi]

Reminder that seasons increased in length specifically for development time on the dlc and to fix bugs more efficiently

[iron gust]

Maintenance is to deploy updates with bug fixes and probably other backend updates and tweaks
The bug fixes are done days or weeks before a maintenance and then deployed to us and the servers

[peak nova]

Has anyone had any issues with the open world hunters? 🤨

[tiny oar]

what kind of issue ?

[peak nova]

I get the screen glitch effects to show up when attempting to spawn the first one(s), but no actual enemies anywhere

[tiny oar]

the screen glitch is an indication you're close to the spawn location or a clue location, not that he should spawn

you might have missed a step in the puzzle

[peak nova]

Ah, will have to re-try 👍

[tiny oar]

have you done other hunters ?

also some hunter guides are fucked, they say stuff that is blatantly false

it took me a while to figure some of them

[peak nova]

None yet, heard it's in order