td2-general-chat

[desert plume]

I also think that as well. I mean what's the point of ignoring the players who are playing your own game. I mean, if you have at least a little bit of understanding and emotions you will not push something that the majority of the community doesn't like

[kind veldt]

main characters can play climax missions, we dont know the rest

[umbral kite]

im not very fond of that seasonal char idea, i liked the fact to go back to the same char every time i resume the game every couples of months

[lost topaz]

idk what they are, but they have clarified that the "non-seasonal character will be useful so we can beat the Master difficulty Climax Missions"

[umbral kite]

hopefully they'll have the equivalent of eternal servers but if that mean no seasonal content that's a bit sad too

[lost topaz]

dont worry, nobody is

[desert plume]

I literally just want more content, that's it. I want 10 incursions, I want more raids I want to cooperate with a team, etc.

[umbral kite]

i would presume no old player would be, this is definitly for new player

[lost topaz]

this is a very big backlash from the whole community, i sure hope they dont go through with it

[keen blaze]

Can you share where you ahve seen this? think I have missed it.

[zealous anchor]

Yeah I've always had good faith in Massive following previous updates when I would cycle back into the game

[tepid stratus]

all i want is content and if this is what they are giving us…. then okay 🥲

[keen blaze]

Where was this shared?

[elfin hazel]

https://fixupx.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1800499025801822627

[lost topaz]

i just wont consume the content if they go through, simple as...

[zealous anchor]

I'm curious to see how the new Manhunt system works out today hopefully

[desert plume]

I truly want to see more challenging incursions where one small mistake can cost you

[tepid stratus]

massive is hopefully going to start div 3 in full force after the star wars game is done

[elfin hazel]

finding other tweet rn

[quick hazel]

And unlock the raids matchmaking. If we can play Incursions with randoms and complete it under 15 minutes without comms, means the players are smart enough to do IH with randoms.

[clever plank]

What's going on with the servers? Still down?

[elfin hazel]

still down

[tepid stratus]

yep

[kind veldt]

maint extended

[keen blaze]

thank you, kindly.

[lost topaz]

raids are far more complex, im afraid

[dapper lark]

well r6 membership got fully boo'd at the major, still no walk back on that lol

[pine glade]

Hi ! Anyone know when the server start ?

[elfin hazel]

https://fixupx.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1800488989914505680

[timber hatch]

The incursion is FAR simpler than the raids, even dark hours

[quick hazel]

I’m exaggerating 😄

[elfin hazel]

about an hour according to pins

[zealous anchor]

If they do make div 3 and it has seasons like currently, I want them to implement like seasonal season changes from summer to fall to winter

[grand swan]

Would be cool

[kind veldt]

it could work if it's there from the start

[mint trout]

100%, like putting on an old pair of comfy slippers when you come home from work, just fits and feels nice

[dapper lark]

now this ai f with

[median mantle]

Atleast the maintenance makes us united

[grand swan]

But would take some part of the RAM

[kind veldt]

not shoved like pure fucking nonsense in div 2

[lost topaz]

well, yeah... but the div2 has heard the community before, havent they?

[urban ledge]

And i thought legendary tidal base was bas enough

[grand swan]

Div 3 should start on a intense snow storm

[dapper lark]

heres to hoping.

[jagged canyon]

It's one thing to hear. Another to listen

[grand swan]

As if you're escaping a hunter

[atomic musk]

if there's no snow on Div 3 i'll be rather pissed off and would request they change the engine name to "NoDrop"

[umbral kite]

sadly i don't think they'll back down on anything for TD2 or R6, they know they have the player base by the balls

[grand swan]

And then would have season changes

[zealous anchor]

How heavy is div 2 on the ram rn?

[lost topaz]

i mean, they have cancelled bad things before i think

[grand swan]

Around 120 or 200 GB

[lost topaz]

methinks

[jagged canyon]

Well they did not go through with that 1 smoke change

[dapper lark]

true n true, frfr

[zealous anchor]

Of RAM??

[keen blaze]

Quote: "allow for the opportunity to experience Climax Missions with your main character during the intermission period between the Seasons."

This means you have to grind to 40 and for a short period of time you can leverage your accrued SHD level and gear against tougher content. After the intermission is over your main is put back on the shelf.

The end-game is grinding for short access to you main each season.

[grand swan]

Yes

[jagged canyon]

Name 1

[desert plume]

If we can play Incursions with randoms and complete it under 15 minutes
You are a lucky guy then. I usually go to Discord. Matchmaking has been hit-and-miss for me. Also, people failed two times and then they left. I wasted my time. So I prefer to do runs in GDROCK server, or the other The Division server

[umbral kite]

yeah but it didn't really hurt they bottomline to agree to revert it back, not the same here as there's money involved

[dapper lark]

its like 6-7gb but could see it go to like 12

[desert plume]

Also in matchmaking no1 is using the mic

[undone timber]

What did I miss

[desert plume]

I like to talk with people

[kind veldt]

between seasons means couple of months

[lost topaz]

i mean, the division 2 is the easiest one to solve bad patches like this season 2.0 shenanigan, because of the very nature of the game... we can just... not play the patch content and play anything else in the game lol

[grand swan]

IRL season changes on div 3 or 2 would be so cool ngl

You wait 3 months and boom seasonal change

[kind veldt]

they made some twitter posts that dont clarify much

[undone timber]

Bruh

[lost topaz]

i have not done a single seasonal quest in years lol.

[atomic musk]

wonders if @grand swan knows what RAM is

[quick hazel]

Might be a server thing. I usually end up in non english speaking servers. I’ve matchmade with Japanese randoms and they do so well.

[grand swan]

[umbral kite]

cool idea, but it's require alot of ressources to make it happens

[urban ledge]

I had to clear 90gb for todays update

[jagged canyon]

Look the scout stuff sounded fun. But I want to do that on the character I spend over 3000 hours with. Not a new one

[desert plume]

I'm EU so yeah

[zealous anchor]

Yea that sounds better than 120 to 200

[desert plume]

Might be different there yeah

[grand swan]

We just need a good CEO

[dapper lark]

guys, RAM... not storage. lol

[grand swan]

And unreal engine fr fr

[real creek]

Doesn't everyone have like 256 GB of ram??

[lost topaz]

theres a server i go, people there are very kind and nice and welcoming, and they are good, helped me with the incursion

[keen blaze]

A couple of months out of the year. Every forth month of the year would make sense. The majority of the time your main is on the shelf. Still not very ideal

[kind veldt]

you say that, but some dude is using his google drive server as ram so he did download more ram

[dapper lark]

i got 1 trylobyte of ram

[dapper lark]

wtf? now im interested ahahaha

[jagged canyon]

I hate how most content creators sound exited for 2.0

[grand swan]

Question real quick

[lost topaz]

we can do that? future is truly here...

[umbral kite]

paid actors

[grand swan]

What was the sort of infection you got on survival

[desert plume]

I have 2x16 CL14 3200Mhz G.Skill and it takes around 6-8. If I do the web browsing I populate around 14-16 gigs of RAM, while Div 2 is around 7 or 8

[grand swan]

Was it thermal shock?

[kind veldt]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2449475400847879506/A3F78FF17DF0F258D58B095A39187B586EA4226D/

[undone timber]

Septic shock

[lost topaz]

normally its paid ads

[grand swan]

Oh ok

Also another question

[zealous anchor]

So hypothetically if they did a dynamic seasonal weather system it could up to like 12 maybe???

[grand swan]

What was the name of the mute agent on the DZ announcement?

[zealous anchor]

My brother knows game design more than me lol

[grand swan]

Was it ryan rhodes or what

[real moth]

Just imagine, every season they get to make new videos about which build is "broken op, must farm now for this season"

Ofc they're excited

[undone timber]

Marquez if you mean the guy with the jacket

[dapper lark]

holy shib, now we have brand new superspeed 100% brainwave internet and download more ram

[real moth]

Right now they have to make their weekly video about a striker build

[quick hazel]

Broken, OP, Solo, PVE, DPS Tank are the usual keywords lol

[grand swan]

Like the first announcement of the DZ update

[lost topaz]

but they already do that (?)

[grand swan]

Where he betrayed his team

[atomic musk]

swap drive it's ram, it's just assisting ram

[lost topaz]

every week there is a "BROKEN LOOT ON THE DZ SECRET NPC VENDOR! ITS A MUST GET!"

[undone timber]

Ye Ryan marquez

[clever plank]

https://ubistatic-a.akamaihd.net/0115/tctd2/status.html When are the "currently working with no issues" servers back up?

[desert plume]

Idk. It would be CPU-bound if you ask me, not RAM. Also, where did you get that from, the seasonal weather system? I always wanted that in The Division 2

[grand swan]

Striker build video... What a "surprise"

[lost topaz]

and it always works

[real moth]

Or "solo legendary easily", soloing legendary is honestly kinda niche tbh

[barren tiger]

gAmE StIlL DoWn? 😛

[grand swan]

Oh ok i thought it was ryan rhodes

[jagged canyon]

At this point I get more division content from XDEFIANT

[undone timber]

Server always pops when there's maintenance

[grand swan]

Ngl i like this green name lemme get the xbox role real quick

[undone timber]

Everyone be sliding in asking if servers are down

[atomic musk]

so has the update gone Pete Tong?

[lost topaz]

honestly, soloing legendaries is way easier than doing it in a group because enemies get stronger...

[grand swan]

Although i don't have it lol

[dapper lark]

"JUANSHOT every RAID with this here PVE GODMODE build TU20.3" video when

[grand swan]

There

[kind veldt]

dude is maintnance

[undone timber]

Nah it's Like 3 times harder

[grand swan]

I love this green name

[clever plank]

It was supposed to be done already

[undone timber]

Theoretically it's easier because adds are less strong but spawns don't change and all the aggro is on you

[lost topaz]

nah we complaining about ubisoft here too

[real moth]

I guess it depends on the person. If you're a solo player I can see that. I find them easier in a group because I mostly raid so I am used to the way adds behave when multiple players are present

[kind veldt]

they announced it was extended again

[jagged canyon]

But if they go through with seasons 2.0 this game is gonna end up like heartland

[quick hazel]

they’ve been using floppy disks. There’s about 500 left.

[grand swan]

We hope it doesn't

[zealous anchor]

Just was looking at old screenshots of div 1 and also took some in 2 and saw thr new system for assassin's creed so wondered if it could happen here

[marsh hinge]

Did anyone ACTUALLY believe it wasn’t gonna be extended?

[keen blaze]

Serious Question: What is the reward for completing climax or master missions? I can't be anything that you could leverage in the next season so in the absense of that is it just XP/SHD so you can complete climax/master missions fasster?

[clever plank]

So? When does it end?

[lost topaz]

i have played solo for most of my time around, so i guess its true

[quick hazel]

“Comms” lol

[kind veldt]

#server-status message read

[jade dome]

Tomorrow 🤣

[jagged canyon]

Ngl if they go through with it I kinda hope it does

[undone timber]

Did they even clarify how difficult master was gonna be

[dapper lark]

its gonna be like LoL they get a Lore director, all the lore expansion game studios get shutdown

[kind veldt]

nope

[atomic musk]

Maybe i'll go play Division 1 survival and wonder whether we'll ever get to play Heartlands 😭

[lost topaz]

so the game finally dies and we dont have to ever play it again?

[undone timber]

They made it sound worse than legendary saying you need a good team

[jade dome]

Heartlands was cancelled 👀

[atomic musk]

which was supposed to be Div2's survival !

[jagged canyon]

Basically

[dapper lark]

no u

[desert plume]

Maybe. I would love to see that

[deft cliff]

Unfortunately never because Heartlands has been cancelled

[quick hazel]

Gonna assume something like they did in Payday 2, it’s between Legendary and Heroic. It’s harder, but not too hard, 😄

[clever plank]

Ok, so they extended the maintenance once more lol. What did they break this time?

[undone timber]

So they took the scaling for paradise lost and applied it to climax missions

[keen blaze]

commendations??? I...hope not.

[zealous anchor]

Me too. Would be sweet to see the snow again

[lost topaz]

lmao the server all changing form to a destiny 2 discord

[undone timber]

Great

[unique bramble]

You know this will happen sooner or later because it's a live service game right?

[real moth]

They also tell you that raids are intended for 8 players and entering with fewer is not advised, when you start them with less

[atomic musk]

makes no sense to have created a playable game and just bin it

[lost topaz]

i mean... it could happen later, i guess... the div 1 is still up and running

[jagged canyon]

Can confirm that is accurate

[quick hazel]

I mean, Incursions are for 4 people but I’ve seen soloing it on YT hahahah

[blazing sleet]

Did maintenance get extended for one more day

[dapper lark]

12

[blazing sleet]

:D

[quick hazel]

They mixed up diskette #402 and #204

[lost topaz]

2 more months, so we cant have a opinion on the changes

[unique bramble]

After what happened to "the crew" maybe the div1 will not be around after two or three years imo

[barren tiger]

the hamster died and they need to buy a new one but the shop isn't opened yet

[zealous anchor]

I just came back to the game yesterday, what exactly are the incursions? Like mini raids?

[undone timber]

The crew has an offline mode they just never implemented for no reason

Outrageous that is

[tepid stratus]

i don’t think they are giving up on the div ip at all

[unique bramble]

From a company that says their games are four A, anything is possible I guess.

[quick hazel]

They should just give it to Disney. I’m sure it’ll get nuts

[atomic musk]

Would you pay to play Heartlands? It was supposed to be free to play, but I bet most Division players would gladlypay for it, surely?

[tepid stratus]

i would shoot my brains out

[jagged canyon]

Also gotta love div 2 got like 5 minutes on forward

[dapper atlas]

Terry once said that the servers for Div 1 will stay online as long as people are playing the game. Now, I know we are talking about Ubisoft here, but I still have hope that Terry was right.

[tepid stratus]

WAIT YALL SEE WTF IS GOING ON WITH STAR WARS LMAO??

[jagged canyon]

Nothing on mobile

[lost topaz]

guys we can do healthy criticism but we can also invade their headquarters

[blazing sleet]

Yeah

[dapper atlas]

I would

[atomic musk]

that Star Wars game looked so boring 😐

[lost topaz]

how about that

[blazing sleet]

Nah

[tepid stratus]

next division 2 raid 🤣

[lost topaz]

i hope theres a new exotic inside...

[jagged canyon]

Nah at most an incursion

[gusty trail]

Yeah that's true. They literally talked about every little detail lol

[lost topaz]

first 200 people activity

[unique bramble]

They should have sold this project to respawn, at least the Titanfall creators know to make a star wars game lol

[warm blaze]

new meele exotic. the table leg

[grand swan]

Imagine How many drones flying

[tepid stratus]

nonono….

you see what they are doing with apex….?

[lost topaz]

i can hear the sound of shields being activated and deactivated...

[grand swan]

The sounds of drones shooting

[quick hazel]

Exotic talent description for all new exotics at this point should just be :Upon deconstruction obtain exotic component.*

[jagged canyon]

Kinda sucks that the division 2 China is getting way more care

[unique bramble]

I know, but at least the Jedi games aren't the worst compared to other Star Wars games from EA nowadays

[tepid stratus]

very true

[lost topaz]

bigger fanbase to be sold and etc

[quick hazel]

Yeah but they have to deal with a ton of regulation. So it’s kinda just fair,

[tepid stratus]

there’s a div 2 china?

[grand swan]

Yes

[atomic musk]

I didn't really find anything except Assassins Creed, interesting on the stream thing yesterday. AC reminded me of one of my favourite games of all time: Tenchu Stealth Assassins!

[cloud sinew]

Waaaay more contents

New incursions
New raids
New Abyss
Legendary missions
Weekly clan capture points

[grand swan]

Bro

[unique bramble]

Yeah, and they have more content than the main the div2

[grand swan]

Why ubi 😭😭😭

[lost topaz]

nah no way

[warm blaze]

after that a new mission. Find a table that can actually stand now that is missing 3/4 of its legs

[lost topaz]

no way ubisoft sucks that much

[grand swan]

The new one does

[quick hazel]

It’s like Div 2, heavily monetized, probably monitored. Wouldn’t think too much of it.

[tepid stratus]

😭

[dapper lark]

so uh... how do i play the chinese div 2? asking for a friend

[lost topaz]

im gonna change my ip to the chinese servers

[keen blaze]

where is the from and in what context does it apply?

[cloud sinew]

It has different client and site , and need Chinese VPN

[grand swan]

Real

[unique bramble]

Go to China and have like only 3 hours of gaming per week

[lost topaz]

long live the CCP

[shut wave]

If we’re lucky enough we can take all the table legs off the table and use it as a makeshift shield like the trash can lid npcs

[lost topaz]

Xi Jinping is a real one

[dapper lark]

hell nah, imma get that bad social credit score.

[grand swan]

That won't stop my grinding

[quick hazel]

We’re Trash SHD now. New faction

[lost topaz]

im gonna get multiple chinese people on my side so i can play the game nonstop

[unique bramble]

JTF now: first time?

[gusty trail]

Aka Rioters but remastered from div 1

[grand swan]

Rioters were annoying but they really look like actual rioters

[lost topaz]

rioters with SHD watches

[grand swan]

Like the hoodie, mask and way they use guns

[quick hazel]

Side aiming that tec9 lol

[warm blaze]

i would wear the trashcan mafia clothing

[grand swan]

Real

[gusty trail]

Yep, they nailed their entire attitude and style in div 1

[grand swan]

Fr

Too bad in 7 months they got whiped

[unique bramble]

Bro, why do the rioters in div1 look more like civilians with baseball bats and in div2 they look more like terrorists from CS:GO?

[quick hazel]

Drones and Turrets have trash lid armor mods for higher health

[grand swan]

Idk lol

[quick hazel]

Because Keener is alive

[kind veldt]

cold winter gear vs balaclavas for no reason

[lost topaz]

game got too political because of woke... the wokevision 2...

[rich ember]

Do i understand correct that with the new season starting today the focus is on creating a new character?

[azure lintel]

yes

[zealous anchor]

No that's the next season

[lost topaz]

next season

[warm blaze]

when your the last of the rioters and youve seen some shit

[kind veldt]

no, this season is norma, next one is different

[rich ember]

thank you!

[azure lintel]

someone said u need create acc

[gusty trail]

Nope, that's for Season 2

[shut wave]

I don’t get why they don’t just stop adding more gear and instead focus on bugs/gameplay for once

[lost topaz]

hopefully seasons 2.0 will change or simply never reach us

[shut wave]

Project resolve did nothing for countdown or descent

[gaunt mica]

aren't seasonal characters optional?

[lost topaz]

they did it to r6 years ago and made the game worse

[lost topaz]

doesnt seem like it

[gusty trail]

Nope, not optional

[gaunt mica]

then why did they say the stuff would get transfered to your character end of season?

[warm blaze]

but we need more useless gear sets that casue more bugs

[kind veldt]

lmao no

[gusty trail]

To not leave your main characters behind in terms of progression. No one likes losing 100s of hours after a few months

[shut wave]

Until your main character has more inventory slots taken than the season character’s inventory and all your extra grinding goes bye bye

[kind veldt]

since deleting main characters would cause people to riot, they will just make them useless by not being able to play new content

[shut wave]

No extra loot gone to the void

[keen blaze]

That is exactly what will happen though. For the majority of the calendar year you will need to leave your legacy characters behind to grind the season to level 40.

[gusty trail]

We do have the stash so

[cinder nacelle]

Wait... really? Wow.

[gusty trail]

Truee, it feels icky when you have to juggle 2 characters

[quick hazel]

I wonder if Steam would accept refund reason “Ubisoft deleted my progress of 3000 hours on purpose”

[blazing sleet]

Is anybody in chat who didn't purchase wony. I presume 90% of div2 is owning it

[jagged canyon]

It's insane how much content they are getting over us

[kind veldt]

most of teh time you can get a refund with a reasonable reason if you get a human to talk to you

[quick hazel]

Oh nice. I haven’t gotten to that point yet as I’m usually in the time limit refund condition

[grand swan]

What do you mean

I hope i haven't lost progress

[shut wave]

Dont be silly they wouldnt delete everyones characters

[kind veldt]

season 2.0, old character cant play new content

[warm blaze]

^

[grand swan]

Ain't no way

[gusty trail]

Ain't yes way

[quick hazel]

somebody made a joke earlier. Ubisoft will delete everything to force us to play Season 2.0

[warm blaze]

a la a crappy idea stolen straight from D4

[zealous anchor]

I think we are jumping the gun still on the seasonal character stuff. They did say the end story would be playable on your main character and I doubt all seasonal content will be locked behind a fresh character

[jagged canyon]

Each season is gonna need a new character. Then once it ends all gear is transfered

[kind veldt]

thats the entire reason this server flippled from loving the game to straight up demanding answers

[grand swan]

Reasonable

I have literal 956 hours of in-game progress

[warm blaze]

2k+ for me

[grand swan]

That's literally 5 years

[kind veldt]

bit over 1k

[shut wave]

Flippled

[remote charm]

6.5k

[kind veldt]

lmao, yeah my bad

[heavy dirge]

5500 here

[jagged canyon]

I got 2391 hours into this game that just got announced to be a waste of time

[grand swan]

So all progress will reset, bruh

[keen blaze]

They specifically said the new seasonal content requires you to play as a seasonal character. The only exception I have seen is that after level 40 when you get access to Climax nd Master missions you can use your main characters again. It is still unknown if your main characters will be able to use the new seasonal gear and skills at that point.

[azure lintel]

to everyone????

[gusty trail]

Well yes and no

[quick hazel]

Too many games with this model already unfotunately, and the whole discussion of it on the stream seemed to point in this direction. Which is why many are not too keen with it

[heavy dirge]

No it won’t. Please stop spreading such nonsense

[grand swan]

[shut wave]

Your main characters will NOT be deleted, you just have to create a new character to play season 2.0

So many people spreading misinformation

[grand swan]

That's losing progress of the other one

[dapper lark]

some sort of climax mission stuff is for your main character. manhunt stuff is seasonal only. either way gotta wait for the stream prolly a week out from season 2

[lilac hull]

but i've maxed out my character slot 😦

[azure lintel]

too much fake info about u lose everything

[grand swan]

I like playing as one character only

[gusty trail]

Here's the greatest question for everyone: How are you doing that IF you maxed all characters lol

[heavy dirge]

It’s most likely gonna be sorta like what they had in Diablo 3

[kind veldt]

well new character wont have your gear or anything, so...

[warm blaze]

it a very artificial and just plain bad way to try to extend gameplay that they never planned to have in the first place. remember the game was supposed to be done after Fey.

[dapper lark]

more like diablo 4

[kind veldt]

they did say a new character slot for seasonal

[gusty trail]

It's not like they are adding 1 slot every season I hope

[dapper lark]

d3 version was better than diablo 4

[unique bramble]

Nice argument Agent Tyler why wouldn't you come back with a source?

[azure lintel]

wtf XD

[warm blaze]

they delete all our characters they kill the game straight up

[shut wave]

🤓 Uhm Sir its the update

[undone timber]

from the wording thats exactly how it'll be

[heavy dirge]

I gave up on d4 before the first season, so I dunno what the diffs are

[kind veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUFOhxfGuwc&t=130s

here, from the horses mouth

[grand swan]

Horse

[gusty trail]

If they DO delete everyone's characters, they would kill the game in 1 second

[azure lintel]

level 1 lmao XDDD

[warm blaze]

so fast

[kind veldt]

https://www.ubisoft.com/pt-br/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/72VfO2i8dx7NAhQ2DAHNJ5/year-6-the-division-2-the-road-ahead

[gusty trail]

Literally going for WR

[kind veldt]

this is the official information we have

[shut wave]

If they deleted my character I think I would die

[warm blaze]

yep i would go . o look more hard drive space now

[quick hazel]

Content Creators gonna be like “Solo Legendary With this New Gearset: WORN OUT”

[zealous anchor]

I just rewatched the deep dive and it literally sounded all optional

[azure lintel]

gl trying them if they delete well bye bye to game

[shut wave]

I am NOT doing all the raids and their projects again

[azure lintel]

me too

[keen blaze]

Not aware of anyone saying your main character needs to be deleted. That's not the issue at all. You can't play the new content with your main character. The SHD level and gear on your main character is only useful on Climax and Master missions. There is not benefit in any of the rest of the content.

[unique bramble]

Bruh what the f were they thinking?

[heavy dirge]

Please stop with this promulgation of deliberate misinformation. Nowhere has anyone said they are deleting or resetting all characters

[grand swan]

Forcing people to create a new character just to play something is pure bs

[zealous anchor]

"We are offering a new way to progress through the seasons" "By making a new character..." it doesn't sound like you are forced to make a new one

[warm blaze]

they wernt clearly

[gusty trail]

Riddle me this: Why add that as a feature when it is optional and no one would use it?

[zealous anchor]

It just sounds like an option you can take as a challenge or new way to play, not a forced choice

[warm blaze]

also does anyone remember if they have ever done an update and not had to extend it 2/3 times?

[undone timber]

I heavily dislike the idea of being forced to create a new character to play new content

[covert owl]

yeah

[zealous anchor]

I would use it as an option for when I introduce new friends to the game and want to start over with them

[quick hazel]

The one with the photo fix?

[gusty trail]

I think they just mistyped the 12 hours to 2

[heavy dirge]

It allows them to create some pretty specific mission environments that can exist outside of the regular game world. F.e. What if the seasonal characters had golden bullet all the time?

[timber hatch]

Some people might, it just depends on how it's implemented, which at this time we have little/no information on and everyone is just speculating.

[zealous anchor]

The progression rn is slow and tedious and this is to engage new players into endgame content, I don't think its a forced switch

[covert owl]

and dont care if they have mainteance hope they quick finish and tell them dont take too long

[real creek]

I just wanna guess at shit and get angry alright!

[grand swan]

Dude seasonal characters ain't no fun ngl

Can work on other games but not on division

[gusty trail]

Yep, that's true. Although we are talking about season 2 when season 1 is about to launch

[warm blaze]

bakers dozen and just start capping to try and go fast

[zealous anchor]

Seasonal characters aren't the best move but I don't like the misinformation that its a "forced change" when it doesn't seem that way at all

[heavy dirge]

If done right, I think it could be fun, but blizzard tweaked the season journeys in d3 a few times before they got it right. But when they did, it was hella fun

[kind veldt]

i would still prefer have all my gear thank you

[grand swan]

I'm imagining that the seasonal characters gonna go rogue

[real creek]

Diablo 3 was the kind of game where I played a season here and there if I felt like it and never used my "main" character. Play the season till bored then shelf the game till another season looked interesting.

[grand swan]

And who guess we might find them

[keen blaze]

A kindly as I can say it, you are misinterpreting what they said. They even offer an explanation as to why using a seasonal character in the seasonal content is NOT optional. Kindly, watch it again and think on it.

[kind veldt]

we dont have classes and skill trees like ARPGs so everyone is going ot have to drag on through the start the same way and no diversity

[gusty trail]

Imagine season 1 is when our agent goes rogue so season 2 they can make us create a new agent to hunt the old one down

[grand swan]

Although i don't really like to have 2 characters

[cinder nacelle]

Maybe all this mess is Keener's revenge. He did ||just come back||, right? He's broken the fourth wall and made this crappy season 2.0 to mess with us.

[grand swan]

Since it feels odd for no reason

[zealous anchor]

I literally just watched and it and nothing was said about forced seasonal characters. It only said they are offering a new way to play seasons

[dapper lark]

everything but "master climax missions" are on the seasonal character

[grand swan]

[warm blaze]

ive been wanting to go rogue since wony. was hoping they would have given us the choice there

[keen blaze]

You don't have to play the seasonal content if that is what you mean, but if you DO want to play the seaonal content then a seasonal charactes IS mandatory.

[quick hazel]

This one works lol

[kind veldt]

seasonal content is for seasonal character, old dont get to play it

[shell spire]

All new content is accessible to seasonal characters only, it was stated

[heavy dirge]

They can give you a few build packages each season that you get a la hard rigs gift to get the ball rolling. Then just go do countdown until you get your four pieces of striker

[gusty trail]

I mean look at Keener's watch. It turns from red to orange, not something we usually see

[marsh hinge]

Seasonal content can only be enjoyed by seasonal characters. Your MAIN cannot do the seasonal content.

[keen blaze]

You don't have to play the seasonal content. You must play the seasonal content on a seaonsl character. I cannot be more clear.

[kind veldt]

countdown is locked to lv 40, good ways to make your build is locked away, and plot twist i just got a regulus recently i dont want ot farm it every new character for fuck's sake

[warm blaze]

thinking thats gonna have something to do with ANNA and her advanced capabilities compared to ISSAC

[quick hazel]

In the books the rogues have a protocol to fake the watch ring color (second book I think). That agent went on to manipulate a faction

[gusty trail]

Ooh, that makes a lot of sense. Same with ANNA

[jagged canyon]

What you mean. I see it all the time in the DZ

[hollow hill]

I stand with you on that. Then again, people did cry that the manhunts we got now was too easy because people would use their god tier loot to complete it and wanted more of a progressional feel. Did some thinking, and while the idea itself is bad, I can sorta see what they're going for. They want to erase the spots where you have the players who have everything and the players who don't. Essentially they're getting rid of the "paywall" that is WONY. Now all players will be playing alongside with each other. New manhunts now will have everyone on the same playing field. They're catering too hard to the newer players, making the content for vets so little that it's pointless for vets to even play. I myself would like to see and play with this idea before I decide if I'm staying, or if it's even optional. I wanna keep playing my main but if I have the freedom to take a break and play seasonal, I'm actually kinda for it (BUT ONLY UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS)

[heavy dirge]

You didn’t get haedrigs gift in d3 until level 70 either. It’s meant to let you step into endgame right away, not allow you to power level

[gusty trail]

I meant that lore wise. Still true nevertheless

[quick hazel]

Aw man, I hated doing the tasks to get that.

[undone timber]

who tf said they were too easy

theyre getting harder

[warm blaze]

they are?

[jagged canyon]

So who's up for a bet. I bet they gonna extend it by another hour

[gusty trail]

Those ppl never fought Sparkie, that's for sure

[heavy dirge]

As far as regulus goes - first, if you need a regulus for seasonal content, then we got bigger issues. Second, compared to how it originally was, the regulus quest is basically tiddlywinks now

[hollow hill]

Yeah, these last few manhunts have been pretty easy 🤔 I found them more annoying

[quick hazel]

The Recruiter I had to do on Normal!

[warm blaze]

na multiples of 2 always

[desert plume]

Whoever wants to bet against that he already lost

[azure lintel]

if they extend 4 time again and i deleting instantly

[undone timber]

look how bonkers stovepipe is compared to like hornet

[unique bramble]

Ask the recruiter on heroic

[grand swan]

We should get an rogue MC on the Brooklyn DLC

[shut wave]

Giving the hunter the sniper is crazy

[jagged canyon]

Only OG's remember the 2 day maintenance

[grand swan]

We want a rogue MC😭

[desert plume]

Oh don't remind me

[grand swan]

He had since the beginning

[desert plume]

It was issues with the saves right?

[keen blaze]

Alternatively, we could have legendary man-hunts. That's just a difficulty switch. It would be much more engaging to introduce the need to use different loadouts at different points on the fly during a man-hunt. Most of the problem comes down to knowing what to expect in advance and an inability to make rapid adjustments on the fly.

[desert plume]

iirc

[jagged canyon]

Yeah

[hollow hill]

I don't 100% agree with seasonal characters at all but if they're optional and I can play on them whenever I get bored with min-maxing, I might spend time with it. We do know our main characters will never be deleted so that's a fact we do know

[gusty trail]

Well we do have Master difficulty on the horizon soo

[undone timber]

ig thats what they're going for with master

[shut wave]

Legendary mode but for all factions

[unique bramble]

I wonder if the OGs on console remember the div2 on sale for like 2 dollars

[heavy dirge]

I think there are some issues with this new season system. If they throw it out without giving more character slots, it’s going to be a disaster. Also, I think it’ll make the possibility that the regular servers become barren very likely

[undone timber]

if they wanted to make content more engaging they ought to implement mechanics that require build diversity

[hollow hill]

I was thinking this too, now that ||keener is alive obviously||

[grand swan]

I don't remember a single thing before 2020

It's like i got brainwashed lol

[shut wave]

All the haters who said they were uninstalling because of seasons 2.0, yes I think the main servers will be harder to matchmake but for areas like countdown its always going to have people

[hollow hill]

It's like COVID did a number on us 🤣

[eternal bridge]

Well I thought I was going to get some play time in before work but I guess not

[unique bramble]

COVID does that now? lol

[iron gust]

They said on Twitter there's going to be an extra character slot

[shut wave]

But in like 2 weeks or so the haters will come back to reinstall it

[quick hazel]

Probably won’t be such a problem since, you make a Season Character, play it until season ends. Then next season transfer everything to one of your mules, delete the old season character cos it’s useless now and just make a new one. Just need one slot for it.

[grand swan]

Nuh uh

Prob my isolation

[warm blaze]

in canada i was more worried about the house hippo 2.0 invasion then i was of COVID

[keen blaze]

They didn't need seasonal characterrs in order to introduce master difficulty or more engagaing man-hunts. These are separate concerns.

[grand swan]

I won't uninstall division for that but i think it's a bit unfair

[heavy dirge]

Well, if they are giving us a dedicated seasonal char slot, that fixes a lot of things

[grand swan]

I want a rogue MC for no reason 😭🙏

[shut wave]

Motorcyelc club?

[grand swan]

Please ubi hear our cry for help

[grand swan]

Motor chicken

[warm blaze]

give evey mission a legendary and give us more invasions and the other 2 rids that we were supposed to get that will probally never happen since they only did 2 in 5 years

[molten spire]

until we learn what issues it introduces instead

[heavy dirge]

I mean, I have three chars at 40, all of them well geared (4th slot is HC), deleting either of the SC ones was just never gonna work for me

[shut wave]

Ps5 will get the no hud issue again probably

[molten spire]

Hardcore agents didn't get a dedicated slot so what happens when you add another slot is????

how do they interact with the stash?

[keen blaze]

How does an extra character slot fix not being able to make use of your SHD levels or existing gear because that is not allowed in new seasonal content?

[olive thorn]

I got a question what is the DZ like in TD2 because I haven't gone in I have been to the TD1 DZ Many times and I found it to be somewhat easy to survive and obtain decent loot without too much trouble From AI or Players

[heavy dirge]

It doesn’t fix it because it’s irrelevant

[quick hazel]

Get a HUD but no screen 😄

[heavy dirge]

You start at level 1. You progress from there.

[shut wave]

Its all rogues looking to pvp there is no reason to go into dz unless you’re looking for system corruption/yaahl gearset because you can just get the dz exclusive blueprints from descent reconstructed caches

[jagged canyon]

If they can make space for seasonal characters they can give us extra inventory/stash space

[keen blaze]

I agree an extra character slot cannot address those issues.

[desert plume]

At the end of the day, maybe we were blown away too early by this information, and maybe it won't be that bad, but then again I repeat, it doesn't make sense for a looter shooter to have seasonal characters and for the players who have been playing this game since the beta, it's not fair. It's only good for new players who just installed this game after the season 2.0 update. I like the idea of leveling up the season with my main, and I dislike the idea of leveling up the seasonal character along with the season while my main is on standby

[heavy dirge]

You finish the season, the season ends, your xp and newly collected gear is rolled into your regular characters

[molten spire]

Sometimes you get peaceful farming servers, sometimes you get PvP

On PC you get people instantly locking onto and oneshotting you through entire buildings

[jagged canyon]

Which you won't use bc you gotta grind a new season character now

[olive thorn]

Lucky me I'm on console

[quick hazel]

Just a bit more transparency would have been nice from the Devs. Giving is a post show with just hype and nothing like what they did with the Kelso Season, not good at all.

[gusty trail]

Ubi just created character wipes at this point lol

[heavy dirge]

As I said, the issue of rendering the regular servers barren is very real

[molten spire]

forcing the 1-40 pre endgame grind every single new seasonal character is going to start competing with the rest of the dripfeed in tediousness

[hybrid ore]

@olive thorn To be clear: you don't need to farm the DZ in order to get decent loot in div2.
in fact, it's like the 3rd or 4th best place, and that's without factoring in other players making it worse.

[keen blaze]

That's the issue. A frequent reset to 0 and a short period of time where you can leverage all the effort and time you have put into your main is the the problem.

[jagged canyon]

It's almost like destiny 2 sunsetting but worse

[gusty trail]

Truee, I would compare it with EFT ngl

[jagged canyon]

Which bungie removed btw bc they realized how stupid it was

[olive thorn]

Where would I get decent loot then I've looked almost everywhere and haven't found anything good

[hybrid ore]

Countdown, 100%.

play on Challenging or higher.

[olive thorn]

Bet

[proud zealot]

countdown is the way challenging only

set targeted loot to whatever u want

[hybrid ore]

One run of it gets you about 40 pieces of loot, takes about 15mins+extraction timer.

[unique bramble]

At least they are not selling like 50 dlcs in the div2

[deep pewter]

What is the reason for that the game has been down for more than 6 hours CEST?

[quick hazel]

Set target to loot you don’t want. It’ll drop even better because RNG likes to mess with you 😄

[proud zealot]

also drop shd calibration which you need to optimize

[pine glade]

No information for thé restart ?

[shut wave]

100% I only play heroic if suddenly the leader in countdown is one of those guys who matchmake then go sit on the toilet for 5 hours

[hybrid ore]

When there is info on the servers being up, #server-status will tell you before anything else.

[olive thorn]

I'm looking for an AR rn so I have that set as targeted

[primal skiff]

Oh comeon man

[proud zealot]

that so true i was look for white death with targeted loot sniper but it never drop . change to chest , white death drop right away

[primal skiff]

It took additional 4 hrs min

[cloud sinew]

Servers are LIVE

[jagged canyon]

No instead they're selling us a new game + without the +

[heavy dirge]

Again, that’s just a nonissue. Play seasons or don’t. You still get the xp and gear on your mains eventually, but you just don’t get to bull rush new content in 1-2 hours anymore. Big whoop

[primal skiff]

U better not be baiting me

[olive thorn]

The best sniper I have rn I found when I was playing summit yesterday

[desert plume]

if you bait you get ban

[quick hazel]

https://tomclancy-thedivision.ubisoft.com/status/

[shut wave]

Has to publicly wear a hotdog costume

[proud zealot]

can anyone explain the seasonal character stuff

[hybrid ore]

It's not active for at least another 3 months.

[desert plume]

search discord bar

[real creek]

Not enought info really.

[desert plume]

you'll find

[shut wave]

No one knows if it will be guaranteed new player or optional people are just assuming hardcore

[unique bramble]

And you are high on hyena drug lol

[desert plume]

what's been told so far

[jagged canyon]

Yeah nah servers ain't up yet

[hybrid ore]

When more info is public about it, it'll be posted over in #news-and-announcements

[pine glade]

@unique bramble what u Want ?

[proud zealot]

i search "discord bar" and found nothing

[gusty trail]

Start from level 1 -> grind until Lvl 40 -> Play the season with said character -> Repeat

[cloud sinew]

Just read it somewhere , trying it now

[olive thorn]

Is it just me or do y'all only equip a piece of gear if it improves armor, HP and damage or just 2 while leaving one alone

[cloud sinew]

anyone in?

[ebon steeple]

I hope this seasonal character doesn't mean we have to progress the battle pass with it

[hazy elm]

I'll wait for the tweet from Division2 TwitterX page before hopping on

[rigid wedge]

nope

[cloud sinew]

poof

[rigid wedge]

Still down until 23 minutes

[grand swan]

Bruh

So a new character every season?

[gusty trail]

Yes

[rigid wedge]

Yep

[cloud sinew]

Descent in bigger situation

[grand swan]

This ain't going well

[still marsh]

Just got back from work and so excited to play the new seas….. oh😐

[quick hazel]

DC62 more like

[cloud sinew]

they did do shit with descent and now they expand for whole game LMAO

[hybrid ore]

For server updates, check the 📌 pinned-message of this channel.
it's in local time.

[rigid wedge]

Descent is awful yes sir

[grand swan]

The shit hit the fan and now it's scattered all over the place

[warm umbra]

Server is open now?

[urban ledge]

At least they made decent fun and not that grindy

[jagged canyon]

I think if we hate on season 2.0 enough they might revert. If helldivers can beat Sony we can beat ubisoft/massive

[quick hazel]

It’s an acquired taste 😄

[grand swan]

It got repetitive ngl

[shut wave]

Its fun when its not sloth

[desert plume]

Search on Discord, top right, and you just type seasonal, and you will find people who are against that change basically, and what's been told so far in general when it comes to that, but yeah, you already got a short explanation

[hazy elm]

Nice, thanks! So 15 mins or so

[still marsh]

Need a game mode that is unique every time you play it like survival, not repetitive

[urban ledge]

Yeah it definitely can but is easy to leave without much progress worry

[cloud sinew]

Fun , YES , the gamemode could be so fun and good

but they didn't listen to players , tons of bugs and lack of checkpoint ruined it sadly ( since the biggest nemesis is DELTA 3 )

[blazing sleet]

Pubg

[shut wave]

They could make survival by just making it keeners eclipse virus instead of snowstorms freezing you

[unique bramble]

And when consoles don't have their game crashing every hour

[shut wave]

Division 2 survival

[grand swan]

Real

[gusty trail]

Survival 2.0 with Descent twist lol

[proud zealot]

it's call division heartland

[jagged canyon]

Not the survival we expected

[desert plume]

So the guy did a nice bait

[still marsh]

I praying server comes live just as soon as I finish the update for it

[quick hazel]

Descent loop makes sense because there’s a power creep, you can buy more crits, aok every run. This season thing is a power creep for just your legacy character that doesn’t have access to the seasonal stuff. SCs just keep looping back to nothing

[cloud sinew]

i expected some changes or anything when we reach 52 comms on descent

[jagged canyon]

I'm changing my bet to 2 hours extended

[shut wave]

You get 52 lore

[cloud sinew]

like a cutscene to a new mission

[unique bramble]

It's more like mixing juice with soda and making a horrible drink

[cloud sinew]

in the area of descent

[still marsh]

Imagine they just close it off for the day and we get nothing

[desert plume]

8 mins more

[blissful sable]

So to get this 'seasonal' character will a person have to delete a character if they have 4 characters already maxxed out?

[desert plume]

and you will never see your main character

[jagged canyon]

It's like 2.0 released early

[gusty trail]

Don't jinx it istg

[shut wave]

Just cancel the whole thing 1 second before going live

[proud zealot]

added new slot

[cloud sinew]

We are extending the maintenance by 3 hours and appreciate your patience. We are working to get the servers back online as soon as possible.

[fiery dust]

Bruh...

they extended again

[cloud sinew]

LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[silk rock]

Just got extended 3 more hourd.

[still marsh]

Surely not

[desert plume]

And what you can do about it, nothing

[gusty trail]

aaaaaaaaaaand +3 Hours

[keen blaze]

Not very likely. They want all the player to experience the man-hunts. The man-hunts are part of leveling up not the end-game itself. The complaint was to make man-hunts more engaging to end-game players. They will have climax missions which are season ending missions. Climax missions could be the end of the scout missions which we call man-hunts today. That the final battle not the procress leading up to that. After you finish the final battle you can replay it on master mode. This is what makes sense to me as it requires me to make the least number of assumptions.

A legendary man-hunt would be the entire man-hunt on legendary or whatever difficulty level you elect to play at. That's just difficult. A different tier of man-hunt is a differnet matter. It would extend how many objective you need to complete, how much of your kit you need to use, and how effectively you need to use it. At max tier you need to go all out and be prepared for anything on the fly.

Nothing like this is being proposed. I am just demonstrating what could have been done and it has nothing to do with seasonal characters. In fact, with skill you could compensate for low SHD level to some extent but for the most kick-butt runs you need to put in the time to have all gear ready and the skill to use it.

[blissful sable]

They added a new slot, thank god! I will not delete a character for this.

[still marsh]

OH FUCKKKKKKK OFFFF

[mild ferry]

Division 2 is a joke bruh

[desert plume]

no way!!!

[fiery dust]

UHHH...

[jagged canyon]

No I do think it will be a new slot since the character goes away after the season ends anyway

[fair lake]

Classical maintenance

[mild ferry]

3 more hours of maintenance

[vale rune]

Oh wow servers are down 3 hours from now

[proud zealot]

we extending the maintenance by 24 hours

[bleak summit]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAAAAAAAAA

😭

[gusty trail]

Thanks for the massive jinx

[quick hazel]

Someone tripped on the ethernet cable

[shut wave]

They mistyped 30 hours sorry guys

[unborn cobalt]

3hr more yay 🙂

[desert plume]

I mean even those two hours didn't pass they already have the info ffs

[mild ferry]

Better give us a nice reward

[jagged canyon]

Should have bet on 3

[pure saffron]

survival was repetitive, ppl knew where all the things were, regardless of where they started it.

[cloud sinew]

They just keep shitting with the game

[hearty junco]

lol 3 more hours

[unique bramble]

Imagine like the game shows this:

Tom Clancy's the division 2 services are not available at this time. Don't even try, go touch some grass and cry.

[jagged canyon]

It's always 2, 2, 3

[opaque hedge]

nope 3 more hours

[desert plume]

double xp

[jagged canyon]

How could I forget

[runic kernel]

can't count on maintenance being done on time and they expect us to think Seasons 2.0 won't also be as janky

[shut wave]

Lucky number 3

[desert plume]

or golden bullet, as always

[grand swan]

Ngl it feels weird with this seasonal thing

It's like little tales from Washington

[opaque hedge]

ISAC — heute um 16:18 Uhr
We are extending the maintenance by 3 hours and appreciate your patience. We are working to get the servers back online as soon as possible.

[low lily]

🤣

[desert plume]

...

[candid arch]

Just so you know, the next update will be "We are done for today, we will finish fixing the issue tomorrow"

[grand swan]

And our characters now got no relevance to the story

[hybrid ore]

@pine glade Only warning, stop.

[pure saffron]

3 HOURS

[astral grove]

3 HOURS EXCUSE ME

[grand swan]

Only seasonal characters

[dapper lark]

aint no way. 10 hour maint lol

[desert plume]

3 hours too much really

[upper oriole]

oof lets hope not.. i wasnt impressed with the beta.. just a rip from other games 😆

[rigid wedge]

3 HOURSSSSS

[grand swan]

Not our main character

[still marsh]

I wonder what we will get as compensation, probably 3 crates with loot I already have

[rigid wedge]

nah man im going to bed

[unique bramble]

It's always been n + 3
n = maintenance hours

[rigid wedge]

massive can just take the day off at this rate

[gusty trail]

Nahh, it will be 4, just in case

[blissful sable]

I won't lie tho, repeating the year one campaign sounds painful. There is a good reason people opt for the WONY skip.

[runic kernel]

well I guess I can actually focus on work today even though I've already been up for 5 hours

[fair lake]

+100 textile. Take it or leave it

[pure saffron]

remember when Bungie gave there 25hr warning...

[eternal bridge]

Where do you guys see the time extension because its not updated on Twitter/X

[desert plume]

lets be honest, you are not going to bed

[keen blaze]

No, you will get an additional character slot for a seasonal character.

[sonic halo]

i guess tomorrow

[desert plume]

you are gonna be here with us

[rigid wedge]

yes I am fuck that lmaoooo

[sonic halo]

this aditional 3 hour just classic destiny 2 when final shape release

server flooded

[still marsh]

what are they getting paid to do man. I just finished 10 hours at work, update ready and they do this…. Painnn

[grand swan]

Sleep

[jagged canyon]

It's as I said the only thing they've done consistently over 6 years is extend maintenance

[shut wave]

You get 1 compensation cache but its just the starter level 1 worn gear

[gusty trail]

Sooooo anyone has a story lasting 3 more hours lol

[dapper lark]

yes but ones a content patch the other is a whole ass dlc ahaha

[azure lintel]

more extended????

[pine glade]

Sry , but 3hour more. Just telle us 7hours at the beginning

[azure lintel]

i done thats it

[sonic halo]

indeed, total 10h our

[dapper lark]

10 hour total maint

[jagged canyon]

+3 hours

[desert plume]

'Avoid sleep if you can, sleep is for the weak' -Isran (he went to sleep after that)

[azure lintel]

deleting forever his shit

[grand swan]

So the seasonal characters are little tales from Washington while our main character sleeps and shit

[dapper lark]

yes

[grand swan]

That's all the seasonal thing?

[gusty trail]

I'm starting to think they wanted to say 22 hours instead of 2. I feel really bad for them ngl

[hybrid ore]

We have earned a vacation.

[cloud sinew]

sad thing is they are going to give us a buggedstatus game after 100 hours of maintenance just like on xmas update

[unique bramble]

Screw this game, I'm going to lunch.

[rigid wedge]

but your character will never wake up again

[grand swan]

Congrats

[dapper lark]

our mains hit the methpipe in 3 months time

[desert plume]

it's sad

[still marsh]

The Division 2: Season 6 : ‘Delayed Maintenance’

[grand swan]

Real

[cloud sinew]

Are'n't Div 2 staff on vacation 24/7 ?

[sonic halo]

the final shape when the final delay

[azure lintel]

time to find better life than gaming

[desert plume]

The only season that was smooth and good so far, was the season 9 and Faye Lau I think

[pure saffron]

Season 6 Back to Day 1

[gusty trail]

Year 6 Season 1: The first Maintenance

[grave fox]

10 hours maintenance for no new contant at all..wooo

[desert plume]

Kinda success launch

[pine glade]

Ubisoft was Allways in vacation xD

[jagged canyon]

The first rogue turned into (probably not) the last delay

[hollow heart]

i remember them saying the game saves for players got to there limit and they cant add any more storage space and so on... but now they say they add seasonal characters>?

[desert plume]

Basically

[blissful sable]

Faye Lau had the issue with crashes, iirc

[hazy elm]

Keener about to reveal some crucial info & at the last minute informs the agent: "Gotta fix some shit first, gimme 2 hours"

[desert plume]

repeat bounties and missions nothing new

[mild ferry]

Guys where is the roadmap for the season?

[desert plume]

just added custscenes and 10 hours needed

[rigid wedge]

keener is attacking the servers I knew it

[desert plume]

I don't get it

[gusty trail]

Look in the div reddit

[still marsh]

You would think they’ve made the call to Theo Parnell to fix the servers….

[void parrot]

what a joke this crew is looking after div2

[shut wave]

Spider in the division 2 maintenance room

[grand swan]

Average division server

[desert plume]

So uncompetitive

[gusty trail]

Nah, he probably tested something with Anna and locked the servers down

[shrewd nebula]

Oh look, 3 postpones on Server Availability, how unusual 😛

[hazy elm]

Yeah well Keener informs, then tells Parnell to fix this lmao

[undone timber]

this server is entertainment when there's maintenance

[hollow heart]

i dont get the people who expect the servers will be on in time.. dont you learn from the past? it can be down up to 24 hours ...

[grand swan]

Fr

[urban ledge]

The player base not even that big how they stuggling this much

[worldly sierra]

Brooke another 3 hours

[jagged canyon]

When they said the devs took a piss on the division 2 I didn't think they we're serious

[inner elbow]

welp it looks like I'm gonna have to go to bed.

not gonna wait another 3 hours

[grave fox]

everybody knows this happened in the past already..that doesnt justiy anything tho

[grand swan]

It's 20 million players tho

[fair lake]

There is one thing, the division devs are stable about - delaying content and delaying maintenance. It was with the first team, it goes with a new team)

[serene steppe]

This moment when you realize you don't play this week cause of maintenance for a seasonal character that no one asked

[unique bramble]

It's probably Black tusk taking the devs hostages on Ubisoft HQ

[runic kernel]

I don't get game devs/publishers that go out of their way to fumble the bag with money makers. Division franchise was solid and now can't do regularly scheduled maintenance (something is probably gonna break anyway when it's done), Epic doing the thing to Rocket League which had the potential of being the biggest e-sport around, and so on

[jagged canyon]

I'd say lucky you. Getting to wake up with active servers. But it's honestly a 50/50 chance

[desert plume]

We are extending the maintenance by 3 hours and appreciate your patience
I mean we lost the patience, how I can loose it?

[azure lintel]

true

[fair lake]

Man, I enjoyed Rocket League so much before it was bought by Epic...

[inner elbow]

nah ideally I want the earliest access

not just early access XD

[primal skiff]

He did they are NOT up BAN HIM

[soft badge]

We are extending the maintenance by 3 years and appreciate your patience. We are working to get the servers back online as soon as possible.

[hybrid ore]

Whether you rage or accept it, the wait is going to happen regardless.
So why not lower your collective blood pressure and go do something else?

[grand swan]

It's always fun to demolish everybody with your friends

[shut wave]

Honestly I think it could be pretty fun, only 5000 shd so I’m not that attached to my character like guys with 40k shd, the gear I have is nice ya but i like new content

[hollow heart]

when there is a new season i just check it out 1 day afrter ! there is always but always problems even after the servers back up

[grand swan]

I hope we don't start new characters everytime a new 2.0 season kicks in

[serene steppe]

it's not a new content juste restart fresh character xD

[grand swan]

Seriously it's annoying

[azure lintel]

Its been like this since day 1 so allways update on my day of

[grand swan]

And i also hope our main character have an relevance to the story

[azure lintel]

[shut wave]

they said new modifiers so im thinking different directives

[pine glade]

Why they dont open the serv ?

[blissful sable]

Only 5000 shd?! I know that SHD levels are inflated because of the numerous incidents of XP boosting, but how much time do you have in the game?

[grand swan]

They're killing a spider

[desert plume]

true

[cerulean spear]

Oh my...3 more hours🥴

[rigid wedge]

they are burning the spider rn

[quick hazel]

Somebody tripped on the ethernet cable. They had to start over with the upload

[gusty trail]

Black Tusk put up a blockade

[proud zealot]

xp boosting how ?

[novel plaza]

So what happen to hardcore agent? Will they remove it and change it to seasonal character like Black desert online

[hybrid ore]

Because clearly there is a major issue that prevents the game from going live. They are working hard to fix it but it's going to take time.

[gusty trail]

No idea, that's a good question

[azure lintel]

white tusk delaying maitenance

[grand swan]

No that would cause a chaos

[desert plume]

Doesn't matter 5k or 40k. I'm with 2050 SHD lvl and I have around 1k hours. Depends on how you got 40k lvl

[blissful sable]

You know things like floor 10, Countdown Grinding, etc

[mossy goblet]

bruh extension I legit think they screwed up like usual

[desert plume]

By doing the summit floor only

[grand swan]

It's a spider trust me

[shut wave]

I’ll have to check when it goes live, the kitty is sleeping on my lap so cant move

[rapid linden]

wipe rider

[pliant coral]

im shd 1800 with 500hrs

[runic kernel]

I'm almost at 4k hours in game at SHD 13900 (I did do the Anderson farm for 1k of those levels, so 12900 without any shenaningans)

[blissful sable]

Don't disturb a cat's rest for this

[novel plaza]

Ok just wait for that. I havent finished the hardcore agent

[desert plume]

Yeah, and don't tell me you are not attached to your main. 500 hours you put only into a game that you really love

[midnight salmon]

ISAC going rogue

[pliant coral]

not rly 500 hrs is not that much

[proud zealot]

i thought control point faster than summit floor 10 ? in term of xp

[desert plume]

I would say for The Division 2 is good, for game such as PoE is low

[unique bramble]

Manny: agent, black tusk shut down the div2 servers, get there and reestablish connection with the servers.

[deft cliff]

Another 3 hours....

[grave fox]

fastest xp is public executions cahllenging alla directives with ap+

[deft cliff]

ISAC died

[grave fox]

a proper build*

[pliant coral]

i got like 5.5k hrs in rust thats a lot for me

[gusty trail]

The servers are a manhunt by itself lol

[blissful sable]

Back in the day, people lived on floor 10 of summit before they fixed it

[undone timber]

bruh it's over 20 days lmao

its a heck of a lot

[pliant coral]

not for me tbh

[rapid linden]

System administrators going rogue

[jagged canyon]

When you compare it to people that have over 6000 hours it's nothing

[void parrot]

maybe they have seen the light and are scraping the seasonal characters lol

[astral grove]

Division 3 : Keener attacks the Ubisoft servers

[desert plume]

Yeah, but what I want to say is that you can pretty much finish the full campaign and DLC in under 100 hours. Rest is just you repeating the content. To reach the 500 hours you gotta repeat quite a lot, and you do that only if you love the game

[stable pawn]

Not everyone, only time ever on floor 10 was to get to floor 11.

[umbral hearth]

3 EXTRA HOURS??

[proud zealot]

true

[gusty trail]

Floor 11 was a myth back in those days

[umbral hearth]

@tepid stratus all the hamsters are dead

[grand swan]

Bruh

[jagged canyon]

That's just called bug fixing

[pliant coral]

i dont love the game i quit for a while couse of that doing the same thing over and over again but what i enjoy is playing with friends/clan

[grave fox]

only playing the campaign is just treating it like a single player game..at this point you arent even close to endgame

[azure lintel]

yes 4 in a row

[inner elbow]

7 hours maintenance

[umbral hearth]

mannn i just wanna keep progressing on my new character

[inner elbow]

let's see if they can break the 14 hour record ecksdee

[proud zealot]

dont worry it;s gonna extend to 24 hours maintenance

[pliant coral]

so whats end game

[real moth]

Why don't they just say from the start "Servers are going down for maintenance, we're aiming to have them back up by next week"

[jagged canyon]

No 3. This is the 3rd delay

[azure lintel]

4

[quick hazel]

It’s like that Pentagon Mission. Then you have to fight off a Marauder Quadcopter for the server

[umbral hearth]

you jinxed us

[azure lintel]

4 times total now they doing

[jagged canyon]

From that pov it's 4

[azure lintel]

oh its 3 my bad

[grave fox]

i would define endgame as being able to properly play both raids and incursion aswell as mastering difficult legendary missions like zoo and tidal

[eternal bridge]

Got to World Tier 3 over the weekend with a HC character for the commendation and now they're removing it. Im such a clown

[stable pawn]

They should just say as soon as possible, instead of a time

[umbral hearth]

super long maintenance, still half the game is gonna be broken

[proud zealot]

still world tier system ?

[pliant coral]

done them with about 200-300 hrs

[eternal bridge]

Patch notes states its all being removed

[azure lintel]

world tier removed

[grave fox]

you mean you got carried at 200-300hours..thats not your own accomplishment

[gusty trail]

I bet the world tiers are taking their revenge on the servers

[desert plume]

But only true Division hardcore fans will push themselves to play until you reach expertise 20+, to unlock everything from the raids, etc. So you gotta dedicate yourself to a game, and if you are a busy individual that indeed can take time. So your main character is gonna be everything. What I was saying is connected to this #td2-general-chat message

[unique bramble]

We have no rules, we have no limits, we have no servers, our job is to get erro messages. We are the division.

[warm blaze]

Damn went an made some food jut to come back to 3 more frigging hours of maintenance. The hell is going on. O wait I forgot the usual fo an update

[desert plume]

5k SHD lvl , how that cannot attach you to main

[pliant coral]

no not carried i can do shit on my own i come from games with way more mecanics only carried first time so people had to explain the raid for me but then 2-3 raid i was the one carring

[desert plume]

With 1k hours and 2k+ SHD lvl I am so attached to my main

[twin jetty]

damn i played in 2019, got back into it 2 days ago, bought the expansions yesterday and now i see its going to be free lol

[grave fox]

yeah for sure 🤡

[pliant coral]

i dont have to prove anything to you either you belive me or not

[hybrid ore]

Okay both of you are the best Agents ever, now move on.

[jagged canyon]

How about instead of season 2.0 we get a project resolve 2.0 cause we clearly gonna need it

[shut wave]

I checked with ubi app and its 1,334 hours

[grave fox]

ofc you dont have to :D and anything i say also wont change your opinion..i just have enough experience to know whats possible and what isnt :)

[pliant coral]

game is not that hard shoot and hide no mecanics tbh only ih has some but its ez

[pine scroll]

They are doing the maintenance on legendary

[fair lake]

I'm a bit confused. One of my mates checked Ubi Store. The Division 2 Standard edition now includes WONY. Should it be like that or it's a mistake of the store?
And if it's a mistake, it means that WONY won't be given for free to all, right?

[desert plume]

Mmmm maybe if you said after 10 raids then I would believe that you can truly teach someone how to beat the Iron Horse and to tell to single individual where to be and which build to use etc. But 2-3 only idk

[unique bramble]

Yeah, especially after the division heartland failed

[inner elbow]

nicest thing someone said to me since this update 😊

[jagged canyon]

Failed? It didn't even get a chance to fail

[midnight lotus]

loot crates aren’t real

[desert plume]

You can learn of course what to do after 2-3 IH raids, but to be a fantastic leader after that idk

[inner elbow]

worst thing someone said to me since this update 😭

[pliant coral]

i come from games with a lot of mecanics i understand stuff fast

[blissful sable]

I have 3500 hrs and I am about 5000 shd

[unique bramble]

Exactly, it failed to get a chance for failure

[twin jetty]

wony is free now

[gloomy lark]

Adding seasonal resets for a game this old that wasn’t set up for it to begin with yikes

[shut wave]

I don’t have a job so I have more time to play

[inner elbow]

I didn't know there's a prereq for seasonal resets

[elfin hazel]

WoNY isnt free its just that L40 & all the season type stuff that comes with it is free if you want to go to NY you still have to pay

[jagged canyon]

I suppose that means the game succeeded in not dissapointing us

[rigid wedge]

just noticed. they took off all of the base editions of the game on steam

[elfin hazel]

they did that a while ago

[pliant coral]

on my first ih i was healer up in control room calling water and opening doors while other people just kill ads on theyr first run

[blissful sable]

We are about the same SHD, but I have a lot more hours. Did you play year 1?

[shut wave]

like the beta?

[blissful sable]

The beta and before Wony?

[shut wave]

No I started after wony

[inner elbow]

weirdly enough they left the standalone DLC in

[primal skiff]

How l9ng

[blissful sable]

Ah that explains it.

[desert plume]

I know that, but I'm telling you to be a fantastic leader after experiencing a raid only after two times is hard to believe really. You truly need to have a bunch of experience so you can lead an entire team. I mean some people have done IH more than 200 times and are leaders

[jagged canyon]

It purely depends on what you did in that time. If they only play on heroic 5 modifiers and you only on normal for example. They can have less hours but gain more xp in the time they do play

[real moth]

Different activities give vastly different amounts of xp. It got a bit better with the rebalancing, but someone who does mainly open world will have more level compared to playtime than someone who only raids for example.

[rigid wedge]

people who didn't buy the dlc after they only bought the base game is the reason why

[shut wave]

I didnt use exploits to gain my level I don’t care about high shd I’ve met plenty of high shd people that were bad at the game

[blissful sable]

I didn't think you used exploits. If you did your SHD would be 15000 with that kind of play time.

[desert plume]

Also, there are collectibles (backpack trophies, etc), and you need to guide ftc to pick that. There is plenty of happening there. Water pressure, etc.

[terse sparrow]

Servers still down?

[unique bramble]

The game was kinda different before WONY, Im surprised that pestilence was a toxic gas exotic back in the day (I mean, normal gas, not a stack that spread to nearby enemies)

[desert plume]

to be a fantastic leader in IH takes time

[jagged canyon]

Honestly I liked the old version more

[jagged canyon]

Yep

Got extended by 3 hours again

[blissful sable]

Remember when they had to nerf the Mercilous constantly because the exploding bullets broke their mechanics

[terse sparrow]

3 hours?? Wtf 😂

[pliant coral]

i know that becouse peope has shown me before so when i do ih i show people collectibles

[azure lintel]

Justice for Ubi Hamster.

[azure lintel]

yes

[blissful sable]

@jagged canyon @real moth , I was just curious. I am used to people with less play time having a higher SHD. Part of it is many people joined post Wony when the gear system was easier to understand and players could skip the year one campaign.

[ocean galleon]

3 hours is crazy wtf

[jagged canyon]

The wheels are spinning but the hamster died years ago

[unique bramble]

I played just a little before WONY, I didn't even know how to play looter shooters back then. But there is an outdated google sheet with all talents before WONY.

[blazing sleet]

praying for opps

[grave fox]

😂

[limpid pond]

ubisoft strikes again without proper testing before release to production LOL

[pliant coral]

but i get what you mean there is no point to argue on this you can me a good lead but if you do ih with dumb people that you tell something 50 times and they still dont listen it does not matter if you good lead or not

[blissful sable]

Gear 1.0 was fun, but it was difficult to understand and a mess.

[hybrid ore]

There's a fully updated spreadsheet 📌 pinned over in #td2-build-advice with all the current stuff on it.

[quick hazel]

Yup I’m done for the day. Hopefully everything’s back on tomorrow.

[blissful sable]

I wrote a whole essay about Path to Power and how it was a source of frustration for most of the player base, back when the Division 2 Forums existed.

[unique bramble]

That wasn't the purpose of my comment but thanks regardless

[shut wave]

And they also did x2 exp events more I think

[blazing sleet]

@quick hazel you have to wait until maintenance is complete lil bro

[blissful sable]

Gear 1.0 was difficult for people to learn and enjoy.

[grave fox]

are you talking about the capped x2 exp stuff that everybody usually maxes out right away anyways?

[winter gate]

how much time will it take?

[blissful sable]

XP is a lot easier to get in the past few years.

[jagged canyon]

I'm just gonna play some XDEFIANT. Where I get to kill more cleaners than the game they came from

[shut wave]

I play a lot of descent late game and when I come out of each session I have like 50 points

[tardy tangle]

uhhhhhhhh, 3 more hours i think? idk its 4:52 for me and they announced the extention of the downtime 35 mins ago

[shut wave]

I don’t know if the exp in there is bigger or what

[blissful sable]

They made Descent to be rewarding. So it likely helps a lot.

[unique bramble]

Except for the devs removing the permanent 2x XP from resources convoys back then

[grave fox]

there wasnt any perma x2 on convoys

they just rebalanced open world activities

[jagged canyon]

2 hours an 37 minutes untill the next extension it should be done

[blissful sable]

They removed a lot of exploits. Still, it is easier to hit SHD 1000, these days.

[unique bramble]

Ok, I guess it was Mandela effect

[grave fox]

and now everybody spams public executions for xp

[tardy tangle]

and nobody is playing the legendary missions on div 1 B(

[elfin hazel]

there was perma 2x on convoys because it was bugged

they "fixed" it a few times

[blazing sleet]

Hiw did keener unalive?

[frigid arch]

Are the servers down atm?

[elfin hazel]

yes

[jagged canyon]

Yeah

[unique bramble]

Reviver hive

[frigid arch]

👍

[cloud sinew]

Teasing update for June 11 on ubisoft forwards and they are going to deliver it on June 12 , Lmao

[shut wave]

I love seeing the names of the rikers/cleaners bounties and always need the boss resources so yes

[tardy tangle]

Got shot by the division but used a hologram and manipulated isac to say he was dead but he wasnt

[blazing sleet]

Hive will not alive someone from dbno

[shut wave]

If I’m not playing descent I’m in summit or doing bounties

[blazing sleet]

They touched his hand, hiw does hologram feel likw flesh 🤣

[jagged canyon]

Depends on if it's pvp or pve

[elfin hazel]

hornet was revived the same way

[blazing sleet]

Either wai i emped keener his huve aint working lil bro

[tardy tangle]

idk man why bring back keener but not bring back LTC. Bliss or hell, Ridgeway?

[shut wave]

Kelso was too focused on revenge than making sure it wasn’t a fake keener

[elfin hazel]

because why would you bring back minor antagonists when you a have a big bad throughout the 2 games ?

[jagged canyon]

No Hornet actually died. Keener just acted dead and baited isac into confirming it same as with theo

[grave fox]

you mean when the only thing that changed is xp for directives not being included in the xp shown at the top middle of the screen?

[shut wave]

If only we had the cleaners flamethrowers ak47 we could of made sure he died

[blazing sleet]

Maybe they will.

[tardy tangle]

I mean why not just have Bliss back and have him try to rally the white tusks who are comprised of mainly LMB remnants to the divisions side?

[jagged canyon]

I'm also getting a vibe Viper might still be alive

[desert plume]

I don't argue with you, I am talking. But yeah, that's why you as a leader need to have patience, leadership talent, problem-solving, decision-making, adaptability, critical thinking, etc., not only for the raid but in life. If you can handle all of that that after finishing IH two times only, then you are not from this planet what I can say more

[tardy tangle]

Or have Ridgeway come back and get the True Sons away from the BTSU?

[elfin hazel]

because both of them died with nobody to save them

[blazing sleet]

No one died including hunters. We are joker at th end

[elfin hazel]

besides theres no reason for bliss other than look its div1!!! key jangling and ridgeway is boring and not a staple

[tardy tangle]

Never saw the body of Bliss, Ridgeway makes sense cause we killed him in game but Bliss was only implied to have died

[jagged canyon]

If anything bliss would join up with the Black tusk and take on a roll like Anderson

[elfin hazel]

LMB got absorbed into BT

[shut wave]

At this point where theo can just manipulate isac to think anyone is dead why isnt our agents double tapping the bodies and how isnt dragov brought back alive

The only rogue agent we could confirm died was vivian in her molotov showdown

[blazing sleet]

Most secretive & advanced military force fail to do basic post mortem of dead body and fail to find it was fake all along 🤡

[tardy tangle]

Yeah I mean what's next? The recruiter isn't actually dead?

[tardy tangle]

Anderson is unironically the worst leader possible for the True Sons imo

[unique bramble]

Next time you kill somebody, make sure they're dead

Lucan - invincible

[jagged canyon]

It hilarious that in the comms from last season they talked about her like they wanted to save her but there was nothing they could do

[tardy tangle]

I mean, why would you keep her around considering how volatile she was?

I can kinda see why someone like Keener would rather have her gone

[shut wave]

How else are black tusk going to get flamethrower warhounds?

[elfin hazel]

probably making them with the infinite resources they have

[jagged canyon]

General Peter Anderson was never an extraordinary man, but he always considered himself an exceptional man. Proximity to power and control was the way he sought value. He is very status driven. Serving his country in the Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard was a way to show that he was not just a paper pusher but was still a "real soldier".

Teased relentless as a child for being fixated on order and efficiency, he surrounded himself with charismatic popular people to learn how they managed to gain that social currency. He realized charismatic people are very rarely interested in process and saw an opportunity to build himself a sheltered and protected position as the man who knew where all the bodies were buried and how the system worked, allowing the leaders to be charismatic while he held the real power behind the scenes.

Now that Ridgeway is gone and the True Sons are looking for direction, Anderson can put his years of studying the narcissistic mind to his advantage. Ridgeway's vision was small, Anderson will take the True Sons national. He will set up a network across the country and use Ridgeway's death to reframe him as a martyr and vilify the Division.

[tardy tangle]

Who knows, maybe Birdie did the theoretical work for them?

[shut wave]

I think they’re all out after the 100 drone ladies whose backpacks were exploded

[unique bramble]

Well, having the cleaners at her disposal would be a great asset after how they handled BT on Coney Island

[tardy tangle]

Yeah and he's only focused on status and perception, I wish we got more True Sons like Captain Lewis and Wally because they're doing what the True Sons should have been doing from the start

[jagged canyon]

You mean what the jtf is doing

[tardy tangle]

In a way yeah, they should just have been the JTF but not supporting the Division and wanting their own government

A more harsher JTF I guess, gassing a settlement with DC-62 isn't exactly a good look

[jagged canyon]

So True sons but less war crimes

[tardy tangle]

Yeah, and not outwardly hostile to anyone because they're just defending settlements they have deals with like what they did with a few settlements

[elfin hazel]

they could just be with the JTF then instead of fascist authoritarian war criminals who kill anyone who dares to think anything slightly different from them 💀

[tardy tangle]

Yeah, that's the direction Captain Lewis and the leader of the Castle settlement was going in before they died

I'd be much more proud to rep the True Sons if that was the case but they've just turned into the most stereotypical moustache twirling side villains ever

[elfin hazel]

its not that hard to go I don't like current people trying to get power but might as well work together because why split apart when trying to get the same goal

[unique bramble]

This could have worked if Anderson didn't have BT support

[tardy tangle]

Ridgeway was too prideful to do that which is a damn shame

[primal skiff]

They have delayed the thing by about 7 hours

[tardy tangle]

add 3

[elfin hazel]

ridgeway was too genocidal to do anything

[primal skiff]

Thats with the latest added 3

[tardy tangle]

It can still work depending on what Natalya even does

[shut wave]

Add 3 for a total of 10 hours!

[tardy tangle]

But with that being said, the BT suck

[jagged canyon]

Still weird tho that keener pulled the "well I wasn't on that pier" card

[unique bramble]

And if MC Manus double crosses Nat

[tardy tangle]

"well i wasnt in that tank" ahh fake death

[dire mist]

if they turn this into a diablo rendition i’m gonna delete it.

[primal skiff]

First extend was 2 2nd extend was 2 and final current was added 3

[tardy tangle]

I hope he does, kinda also hope that the True Sons go through a redemption arc if Anderson dies

[shut wave]

Then add another 3 on top for 10

[primal skiff]

Thats 7 in extentions

Total time of server down is 10 yes

[tardy tangle]

cause i mean, under the BT the True Sons are basically just their version of the JTF

[jagged canyon]

They'll probably get absorbed like the lmb