td2-general-chat

[undone timber]

Got flak for having glory daze on too😭

[real creek]

wtf it's so gud

Why make it harder for yourself.

[timber hatch]

That might be why they thought it didn't work lol

[undone timber]

Oxis very underused on lfgs for whatever reason

[real creek]

My only issue is I start shooting oxy and they all stop next to me... BRO RUN

[timber hatch]

If someone doubts oxy I just tell them to try and beat me to killing a turret, and I kill the turret they are going fue before they can get there lol

[fluid meadow]

DPS only space

[real creek]

"Why have oxy when we can have a healer" some random in LFGs

[undone timber]

Everybody wants a healer but nobody wants to heal or has the build

Wild times

[umbral kite]

hey, haven't been here in a while, did they removed the voice channels for groups/raids ?

[undone timber]

Yes

[real creek]

#discord-news message

[umbral kite]

oh thanks, i didn't thought about going that far up in the news ahah, it has definitly been more longer than i remembered

make grouping harder for sure....

[real creek]

Tons of LFG discords you can join.

[umbral kite]

oh make sense, i'll have to look for them

[azure lintel]

Ngl

[real creek]

pls no lie

[azure lintel]

I'm surprised we haven't been given the option to choose rogue watches

[real creek]

Cosmetic wise?

[azure lintel]

Yeah

[real creek]

eh I'm not very into cosmetics myself.

[azure lintel]

My brain always thought the red looks cool :p

That and being called rogue just sounds cool

And rogue agents have the best fashion

[real creek]

Shouldn't you be sleeping?

[azure lintel]

Chatting on phone before eep

But yeah I love the rogue agent fits or just the cool fits in general like kelsos

I love the throwing knifes

One of the main reasons I wanted it actually

Now I just wanna get Wright's mask

So it's like a full balaclava with a hunter mask

Tho I do wish I could wear a beanie over the top of it

So like hunter mask with balaclava and then beanie over the top of that

I like the beanie look idk why

[real creek]

Tons of people wish you could wear a hat with hunter mask. idk maybe one day they'll add that.

[azure lintel]

Maybe but idk

Maybe in the third game where none of the cosmetics carry over and we have to rebuy everything :p

Cod did a weird tho made cosmetics carry over from MW2 - mw3

And ngl I don't think they actually lost money

If anything I think people spent more

Because there's double the stuff to buy

[umbral kite]

well if you use the same engine/models it's easier than if you redo evertything, it also give you alot of "free" content (since you don't need to do alot more) for people that didn't purchased anything or begin by this one, that should balance things out

[azure lintel]

I pray that more games do it but who knows

[azure lintel]

Idk if mw3 is on the same engine as MW2 but yeah cosmetics carrying over is good especially in long term series

Makes things like flawless masks more sentimental

Because you could still have it 2 games down the line

[stuck sapphire]

Cosmetics in they age should almost always carry over. There are some exceptions doe.

[umbral kite]

true, make older customers happy, new one happy because there is already a ton to select/buy from, reduced workload on the dev team, it's a win-win-win for them

[azure lintel]

And sure some people will be like "it's not fair they got it but I can't cus it's from 2 games ago" but you get that anyway and it's a cool way to show your achievements long term

I just dislike the fomo on cosmetics

And then like 4-6 years later you can't use it in the next game

I get you need micro transactions

But when they're that predatory it's annoying

Fomo isn't really that bad it can be annoying

But it's the fomo + can't use it in the next game

I mean there's tons of cool fits in div1

And if you wanna use them in div1 against players gl lol

Oh lord I'm talking too much ;-;

[real creek]

lol well there is the #divashion which might have more people who wanna talk about such things.

[tawny garden]

jesus i wanted to farm the voicecoms of the last hunts
and now started with jupiter

1 com for finishing the mission

[azure lintel]

I'm just yapping I think cus eepy

[tawny garden]

thats ridiculous - running the same mission a dozen time just for voicecoms

[real creek]

Just lower the diff and do it once a day or something.

[tawny garden]

The thing is i have nothing else to do really 😂

[frozen meadow]

MEOW

[small spear]

???

[frozen meadow]

sorry

anyways what do i do now

[kind veldt]

manhunt?

[frozen meadow]

done that

[real creek]

Uninstall the game?

[tawny garden]

Damn

[frozen meadow]

considering

[tawny garden]

tried solo the incursion

right as i thought i could endure the artillery, the sniper and gunmans working my way forward

suddently 4 meeles rushing me out of cover xD

[stuck sapphire]

Do what a normal person does. Take a break from the game and go play something else.

[real creek]

Turrets isn't so bad if you oxy/hotswap

[frozen meadow]

i literally havent played in months lol

[real creek]

Carry me thru stuff this weekend idk?

[neon wyvern]

same

[frozen meadow]

through what

who are you

[neon wyvern]

k thxbye

[stuck sapphire]

I mean. Why ask if you know the answer. Either play with others or play something else.

[frozen meadow]

bye

[real creek]

Probs gonna do incursions and tidal legendary.

[real creek]

Me or you?

[frozen meadow]

me?

[neon wyvern]

me and you

[frozen meadow]

you is me?

[neon wyvern]

[frozen meadow]

yay

theres actually a decent chainkiller in the whitehouse vendor rn

[neon wyvern]

if It doesn't have weap handling or hsd auto rolled then it's useless

[undone timber]

needs a fair bit of love but it has handling

[small spear]

WTF

tidal legendary???

[real creek]

yur

Maybe run the manhunt at some point too.

[neon wyvern]

where zoo enjoyers

[small spear]

me

[neon wyvern]

false

[frozen meadow]

It has handling

[small spear]

wdym false

i enjoy carrying 3 <100 shd ftcs

[neon wyvern]

not true

definition of false

[small spear]

i would never mald

[midnight salmon]

tidal bussin

[small spear]

bidal tasin

[frozen meadow]

Tibal dasin

[neon wyvern]

banning tational zoo

[undone timber]

tribal tastin

[full zinc]

Isnt chainkiller trash compared to an airaldi/hb headhunter chest?

[neon wyvern]

no

[frozen meadow]

Depends what you're running

For sniper yes

[small spear]

i think local knows

[full zinc]

I mean, what else you gonna run it with 😅

[neon wyvern]

local only uses crit damage transfer set

[full zinc]

Lies

I like artilliary as well

[neon wyvern]

[small spear]

local hhf only day when

[neon wyvern]

regulus in dz when

[small spear]

tfw i can include regulus in my solo challenge runs

[real creek]

I should make a PVP regu build...

[full zinc]

Next week

[undone timber]

time to headhunt with sacrum

[small spear]

based

[frozen meadow]

holy shit they fixed empress backpacks

[undone timber]

can dread and sacrum even one shot named enemies on solo heroic

[neon wyvern]

big

[neon wyvern]

with headhunter

wait named enemies idk

[full zinc]

Maybe during reanimated with its triple damage ridiculousness

[undone timber]

you could run 5 pieces 5.11 with chainkiller and you could still one shot everything with reanimated

is wild

[neon wyvern]

6pc 5.11 with headhunter

[full zinc]

Probably wouldn't even need a headhunter chest

[neon wyvern]

[frozen meadow]

local so uh

i have this build i was making like 4 months ago and idfk what it is

can you help me figure out what piece im missing lol

[full zinc]

6pc 511+prophet and you're gold for the event

[frozen meadow]

i posted a pic of it in ba

[neon wyvern]

🐑

[frozen meadow]

😢

[tawny garden]

man the hotshot + determined/hh build is still so fun and my most favorite playstyle
Feels somehow like the way the game is supposed to be played instead of this bulletspam builds AR's are mostly about

choosing targets by importance and landing headshots

i just wish the achilles pulse would help way more with electronical enemies making them more fightable

[full zinc]

determined kinda takes the skill out of the build tbf... it dont take much to land body shots.. you should already be able 1shot heroic robotics without achilles

maybe not if using ninja bag tho

[normal lodge]

Does the incoming repair stat contribute to armor on kill?

[full zinc]

no

[normal lodge]

Damn, I figured but thought I would ask, thank you

[full zinc]

its only useful for actual skills repairing as well. afaik it wont affect something like catharsis

[tawny garden]

This only works on passages with a mixed enemy setup
If there are one or two dogs inbetween a bunch of humans thats no problem at all

What im talking about is setups like 1 drone + 6 dogs or some shit
thats a pretty steep cliff this builds falls from in those moments 😄

[full zinc]

i use elmo as a secondary on mine, that or scorpio works for shtf scenarios. there is usually enough hsd that some mods can be set as chc as well

[tawny garden]

yea i thought about setting something more variable up aswell - maybe with dodge city holster cause that means every shot with a pistol deals HS damage. would come in pretty handy. But that would eleminate the backpack slot cause vest would be needed for Chainkiller

yada yada

would lose a ton of damage

I usually use a scorpio but st.elmo against electronics maybe not half as bad

[real moth]

You only deal headshot damage if you have at least 1 stack on the holster. If you continuously shoot, every shot past the first will just be a normal pistol shot

[tawny garden]

oh i see

once again a translation error

ubisoft really needs to fire their english->german translators

"Außerdem fügt jeder Treffer Kopfschussschaden zu"
translated:
"Aswell as every hit deals Headshotdamage."

Just looked up the english description and its way different 😄

"This deals headshot damage anywhere you hit."

completely different meaning

[real moth]

Yea, they have weird wording on a bunch of stuff

[full zinc]

i find the stability pretty good for beaming weakpoints on robots and heads on npcs. 👍

[autumn thunder]

Did I miss anything not killing the hunter in the tanker mission on Kelsos mission?

[tender wave]

probably a comm, a backpack trophy and some sense of closure

[autumn thunder]

Bah ok

[frozen meadow]

no

[frozen meadow]

literally just a mask

[tawny garden]

Not killing a hunter?

i couldnt live with that 🤠

[wispy burrow]

The best hunter mask

[autumn thunder]

Don't worry I went back to avenge my death.

[frozen meadow]

imo it sucks

[tawny garden]

🦅 🇺🇸

[dark kayak]

I mean I got wrecked by dogs who receive and bite you

[frozen meadow]

thats a funny way of saying "i have a skill issue"

[dark kayak]

More of a special one than just funny tbh

[frozen meadow]

im joking lol

[dark kayak]

but yeah, got my ass beat by Hound during the three dogs bounty

she was fucking crazy

[fiery cloud]

Hey Kettle, Eevee

[frozen meadow]

hi hi

im back :D

[real creek]

How long we gotta suffer?

[frozen meadow]

absolutely shredded my finals

[frozen meadow]

3-4 months

[primal skiff]

Bro i have such serous skill isue trying to kill the tanker rogue god darn it he killed me ON NORMAL

[real creek]

That mean you'll come do stuff with us sometimes?

[small spear]

it's a hunter, not a rogue

[frozen meadow]

if im not at work ya

[frozen meadow]

when youre ready to take em on again ping me and ill hop in

[primal skiff]

I will try again i. 5 mins need to make bed

[frozen meadow]

aight

[primal skiff]

Either way he whooped my ass

[frozen meadow]

i mean negotiators doesnt work well on hunters lol

[dark kayak]

Okay, the three fucking dog bounty is just impossible to do istfg

in broad daylight the Shaggy spawnpoint is not optimal at all, and at night you can't see shit, fuck NY

[frozen meadow]

do you need helpo

[dark kayak]

I guess I do need help.
At night I kill two out of three, and at day I'm shredded by the first boss

[frozen meadow]

send me an invite in-game name is ChampionEevee

[tawny garden]

When in doubt: scorpion 😄

[dark kayak]

...How do I do it ?
I add you on Ubisoft Connect ?

[tawny garden]

i crab walked around some cover and scorpion spammed this hunter down like any other 😄

[frozen meadow]

type /invite ChampionEevee in chat

[primal skiff]

I am online sire

Also am i bugged or can we no longed interact with roy benitez?

[frozen meadow]

get to the part with the hunter and ill join up

[primal skiff]

Oki

[dark kayak]

I feel like dogshit compared to your level lmao

[real creek]

Don't fret over SHD level. I'm nearly the same SHD level and I still don't know anything about this game.

[primal skiff]

Reached the pkace

@frozen meadow says player not found

[frozen meadow]

then you typed it in wrong

[primal skiff]

Sent inv i guess i spelt something incorrect

[frozen meadow]

can you reinvite

it bugged out but worked

[dark kayak]

thank you very much @frozen meadow

[primal skiff]

Yep see u in the group

[frozen meadow]

👍

[primal skiff]

/salute to u sire

Also if u dont mind me asked how was your raid?

[frozen meadow]

No I was making a raid lol

Basically a mission that takes every aspect of the game, merges them all together and increases the difficulty twentyfold

[primal skiff]

Ah i tried ir once with a very bad lev gear (lev 30) and was whooped like 2 years ago this was

I suppose its too late to ask if my build is ok?

[dark kayak]

I mean my score is 380...
Felt like a toddler protected by his mom X)

[primal skiff]

Yep same here and i was protected

Lev 250's touched yesterday

[frozen meadow]

😐

[dark kayak]

Your score is 5k+, so YES ther's a huge diff

[primal skiff]

I am in a lot of aew with your skill

[real creek]

SHD really just doesn't matter that much, player skill accounts for much more than anything.

[primal skiff]

I think there is no more "buffs" after 1000 i think

[dark kayak]

..... She almost oneshot every enemy in our sight from what I could see, handgun or not

[real creek]

HH regu do be like dat.

[frozen meadow]

(i was running hh regu)

[dark kayak]

that explains

I was running...
idfk what but it seemed ineffective next to her

[real creek]

HH regu be like dat.

[dark kayak]

So should I go on with the Kelso hunt or do something else ?

I'd ping Eevee to ask her from what she witnessed but I don't wanna disturb her if she's helping you

[frozen meadow]

im just sitting here scrolling youtube shorts

[dark kayak]

X)

So what would you advise me to do ?

[frozen meadow]

do what you want

and im gonna do what i want

eat a chocolate bar, take a nap, and wait for pizza

[primal skiff]

Whats HH?

[civic ridge]

Headhunter

[primal skiff]

The head shot focued build?

[civic ridge]

Either the talent or Perfect version from Named W&H chest, Chain Killer (yes)

[dark sand]

As a new player who started 3 weeks ago .. the lore is incredible

[dark kayak]

The loot as well

[kind veldt]

this game has lore? (plst dont take this comment seriously)

[dark sand]

I stopped countdown as I realize .. I needed to get all the comms as I feel ... those were important from division 1

[primal skiff]

Can u take a look at mine and help me?

[dark sand]

I will come back for countdown just need to get all comms and echos

Gonna take awhile .. for sure

I got time to spare for now

[frozen meadow]

No

[dark sand]

so .. when is division heartland gonna come out

I am joking ..

[primal skiff]

No date declared yet i think

[dark sand]

I was just kidding

[kind veldt]

we honestly dont know at this point

[primal skiff]

Div 3 will be after the outlaws

(That was in a news artical dont kill me)

[frozen meadow]

september 16th 2026

[frozen meadow]

there is no proof of this

[civic ridge]

If I can sure. I've sent a DM

[frozen meadow]

Hi rivens 👋

[primal skiff]

Julian Gerighty, currently the Creative Director for Star Wars Outlaws, will return to The Division as the brand's Executive Producer once Star Wars Outlaws has shipped. Gerighty has a long history with the franchise, having previously worked on both The Division and The Division 2. When he returns to the brand, he'll work on overseeing future titles like The Division 3, as well as in-development projects like The Division Heartland and The Division Resurgence.

[hybrid ore]

hey eevee

[frozen meadow]

Im pretty sure this is incorrect

[primal skiff]

This is from ubi's site

[hybrid ore]

I mean let's be honest, we know that div3 is coming after Outlaws, as Outlaws has if not a concrete at least a tentative release date, div3 only just started getting worked on.

[frozen meadow]

Unless they changed what it said

[primal skiff]

Dated to be a year old but thats where i read it

Sep 23

[real creek]

Pretty sure that's from the blog post.

[frozen meadow]

Yeah they musta changed it then

[real creek]

Naw that's what it said and where the entire div 3 thing came from.

[frozen meadow]

Whatever I didn't care enough

[real creek]

That's the spirit.

[hybrid ore]

Cmon just take your hit, it's okay to be forgetful.
I literally forgot my own birthday this year.

[dark sand]

my birthday was 4 days ago .. came out during the final manhunt for agent kelso

🤣

[hybrid ore]

happy birthday!

[primal skiff]

Hey happy birthday

[frozen meadow]

Rivens do you have a blahaj

[primal skiff]

what is covred under hazzard proctect?

[real creek]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/hdac4x/tu10_hazard_protection_and_status_effects/

[primal skiff]

ok so helps to mitigate status dot but NOT damager instance humm better than HP sync

or shoudl i do grenade one?

[real creek]

Do wat?

[full zinc]

Hazpro lowers the effect duration of status. You can still take damage even at 100% hazpro.

[primal skiff]

explosive resist vs hazard resist form watch

what to focus on

[full zinc]

If it is just the watch bonus, it doesnt matter which is first tbh.
You are more likely to go for a hazpro build over an explosive resist so maybe prioritize hazpro over explosive resist

[primal skiff]

oki

[still juniper]

idk if its just me, but having an LMG as a fallback on sniper builds is so convenient

ik im not taking full advantage of my headshots, a rifle would probably suit me better, but its just so nice to be able to panic spray anyone that gets too close

[dark kayak]

Playing LMG is just too much fun

[still juniper]

its fun, its convenient, and its surprisingly effective

rn im using ekim's long stick and a bullet king, anything that gets too close just gets hosed down lmao

[azure lintel]

Will all the seasonal story stuff that I have missed catch up when the new season comes? I haven’t yet had the black tusk attack on the White House or met birdy in game, will this automatically show up or?

[swift temple]

Is it just me, maybe my build. But was doing some legendary tidal basin, and got hit for 21 million from a warhound. What do you do about that? No way way of knowing if they will shoot you from across the map. You just instantly drop

[small spear]

don't get hit. that's honest advice

[swift temple]

Yeah, of course

[still juniper]

i mean, best i can tell you is to stay in cover all the time and duck if you see a bright light

[swift temple]

Or I could just do what bino said, dont get hit 🙂

[still juniper]

my think is kinda an addendum to that yeah

he told you not to get hit, i told you how to not get hit

[swift temple]

Sounds like good advice.

[still juniper]

im happy i could try to help amigo

best of luck, and can i come with you for legendary tidal lor have you already got a crew?

[swift temple]

Or maybe not have mechanics that just one shot you. Especially when there are like 20 targets running around shooting at you. And sometimes you have 2 or maybe 3 of those devil dogs running around. I know of course it is not impossible. Just think it is kind of a stupid mechanic

[still juniper]

i agree its kinda dumb, but you just gotta deal with the cards your dealt, yk?

[swift temple]

Thanks Sleepy for the help, but going to take a breather now 🙂

I re run the whole manhunt on normal to get the last things. It feels good 🙂 Was running around like rambo 🙂

Must say, that sometimes it is quite fun to run things on normal 🙂

[dark kayak]

Currently in Washingtong DC map.
Pulled off a Hyena Alert 3 control point kinda well tho a bit tough.

Took down the Campus blokus from BT fairly easily.

Attempted a BT elite territory control.
DID NOT LAST ONE MINUTE-
Started the fight, then got cornered by two elite members almost at the same time, THEN got thrown 1 grenade at my covering spot everytime I changed it.
THEN got cornered from both sides.

In less than a minute.
WTF-

[still juniper]

understandable, when you go to start the attempts back up lmk if you need a second and ill gladly come to help out amigo

[hybrid ore]

I only vaguely know what that is, so nope!

[still juniper]

oh ive heard of them, its the gay ikea shark

[dark kayak]

wat-

[hybrid ore]

I think it's more of a trans thing, but yeah.

(I googled it)

[still juniper]

yeah i saw those going around on tumblr a bit ago

also, how you been riv? recently got back into the game

[swift temple]

Dont trust what google says 🙂

[hybrid ore]

I have a few trans friends who have one lol, that's where it looks familiar.

due to stereotypes, I'm only allwoed to own a sword.

[real creek]

Lol

[hybrid ore]

oh been alright, trying other games, you?

[still juniper]

quick question, arent LMG's directly better than SMG's? they seem to have higher damage and mag cap, better stability, all that

[still juniper]

good to hear, ive been great, im finally graduating from high school in about a month

[hybrid ore]

hey grats.
LMG's are slower than SMG's and AR's, but hit harder overall, so like, they're in a weird 3rd place.

[real creek]

LMGs have suppression and can't be used with the crusader shield...

[swift temple]

They seem to be better I guess. But I dont like them

[hybrid ore]

AR's are kinda highest overall DPS option, but it does depend on the build.

[still juniper]

well im on an MMR build anyway lol, so its more a preference about whether you want speed or reliability?

[real creek]

Also reload times are a consideration.

[swift temple]

But I do like a lot of ammo

[still juniper]

i use an RPK presently, and man is it awesome

[hybrid ore]

You end up using a lot more ammo for LMG's, as yeah you need to fire them from cover since no shields.

[stuck sapphire]

Sharks are fun.

[hybrid ore]

doo do doo.
sorry wrong shark.

[swift temple]

Problem is that they go into cover

[still juniper]

yk i havent found accuracy from cover to be that big an issue

[frozen meadow]

You need one

[still juniper]

honestly, i just use my RPK like a slightly bulkier assault rifle, i love the thing

[still juniper]

oh hi eevee, how you been amiga

[frozen meadow]

Who are you

[still juniper]

the guy you used to talk about keyboards with

[swift temple]

I run a build with st. elmos which have around 100 in ammo. So almost like a LMG

[still juniper]

we're friends on ubi eevee

[frozen meadow]

Ok

[hybrid ore]

Elmo has 71 rounds yeah.

[frozen meadow]

Elmo has 500 rounds actually

[swift temple]

Yeah, something like that. Build I run is 50% more ammo

[hybrid ore]

to be able to be fired before you have to reload, not counting shock rounds.

[full zinc]

Elmo is solid backup on sniper setups

[swift temple]

Nice to sometimes have over 100 rouns of shock ammo

[full zinc]

No, you get 70

[still juniper]

honestly, i just love the RPK-74M cause it functions like a bigger, bulkier assault rifle, its got a lot of ammo, hits like a small truck, and its surprisingly accurate

plus i got one with frenzy, so im having a good time of it

its got 12% damage and 10% ooc, with 9% health damage, its a fine gun

[stuck sapphire]

I use the black friday. Tis my favorite.

[still juniper]

is that a named RPK?

[swift temple]

Will try that one for sure

[frozen meadow]

I use the best weapon in the game

[dark kayak]

Build I run simply follows 3 protection and 3 weapon damage, and I switch when better no matter the gear placement

[still juniper]

hey eevee, whats the deal with the raid?

[stuck sapphire]

I forget the actual name. It's not an rpk

[hybrid ore]

Black Friday is a named m249 w/ perfect unhinged.

[dark kayak]

I use my brain and usually my bold stupidness

[stuck sapphire]

Thank you rivens. My smol brain could not remember.

[still juniper]

oh nice, whats its shtick?

[hybrid ore]

Receive 22% weapon damage at the cost of 25% stability and 25% accuracy."```

[stuck sapphire]

Tis pogs.

[frozen meadow]

My raid had traumatized everyone aware of its existence

[hybrid ore]

you know that bit in commando where he blind-fires and kills like 30 guys? that.

[still juniper]

thats actually bearable, you can improve it back to normal with just a good ol fashioned grip and a scope

[dark kayak]

That sounds like something easily fixable

[stuck sapphire]

Is it a legend hidden in shadows?

[still juniper]

im gonna go grind for one, its still the bog standard hundo rounds 600-650 rpm right?

[frozen meadow]

No it's every mission in the game combined with every mechanic in the game with difficulty scaled up 20 times past legendary

[swift temple]

Anyone running with Dark Winter? Must ay it is so nice with build I have. Around 58 in mag

[hybrid ore]

stability and accuracy are basically "Vertical kick" and "horizontal kick". So you can for sure work around them.
I need a new keyboard.

[swift temple]

or maybe 68

[stuck sapphire]

I use that for stiker.

[still juniper]

wait i thought accuracy was bloom and stability was recoil

[frozen meadow]

I mean I'm pretty sure OB is just better in every way

[dark kayak]

So basically "you wanna breathe ? Lemme punch your lungs and throat first" ?

[frozen meadow]

Nah you simply can't breathe

[dark kayak]

Okay this is THAT hardcore

[hybrid ore]

reticule bloom sure, but what that does is basically make your shots go wider.
recoil being another term here for kick :p

[still juniper]

oh

so which stat should i maximize if i can handle kick but dont want bloom?

[hybrid ore]

Think of it like your shots hitting what you aim at more, the more of both you have.

[frozen meadow]

Like seriously I mean invincible enemies and 8 boss fights on a timer with no checkpoints

[hybrid ore]

mods on guns for crit builds are all pretty much the same:
crit chance mods on everything, bggest mag you can.

[dark kayak]

Wtf

[frozen meadow]

And going to the wrong place at the wrong time is an immediate wipe

[dark kayak]

That is just impossible to pull off !

[hybrid ore]

Eevee out here with the sneak peak of Elden Ring's DLC.

[frozen meadow]

One boss fight has 16 named hunters at once in a room with little to no cover

Oh and skills are disabled

[tawny garden]

Handling (does both) or Accuracy

[hybrid ore]

If you win them all the game then gives you a "i did it!" sticker and deletes your save file.

[stuck sapphire]

I can't wait for the elden ring dlc. So hype. Then i gotta go do the ff14 expansion

[frozen meadow]

Nah worse

[hybrid ore]

and then it plays that clip of Jeff Goldblum telling you that you suck from that one Jurassic Park game.

[frozen meadow]

This game ain't hard enough

[swift temple]

Division 2 is harder sometimes than Elden ring 🙂

[frozen meadow]

What

[swift temple]

You get sniped from a mech dog which you cant even see for 21 million damage

[dark kayak]

I start a Elite BT territory control and:

• Am already cornered when I only balsted one guy
• They activate a healing zone
• I get behind cover and they toss a nade
• Second cover, second nade
• Third time's the same
• Get rushed from 9, 3 and 11 o'clock

In a 30 second span.

[frozen meadow]

No?

[dark kayak]

Easy to say I got fucked

[swift temple]

Just happen like to me 30 min ago

[stuck sapphire]

Division has selective difficulty. Fromsoft games don't. It's different.

[frozen meadow]

Maybe you just need to have more spacial awareness

[swift temple]

Doing legendary tidal basin. Kind of sucks

[hybrid ore]

I started a bounty today and I swear, 3 different enemy factions then all ran into the scene from every direction, and a friendly resource convoy showed up too.
I actually had slowdown from the amount of chaos.

[frozen meadow]

Because when I'm playing I know where every enemy in the vicinity is

[dark kayak]

I mean from what I saw it was a safe bet I could do it.

[frozen meadow]

But yeah that's my raid

It's fun :)

[dark kayak]

And.... spatial awareness did not prevent you from getting downed whilst carrying my game

[frozen meadow]

It's also gonna have like a long ass escape sequence where you hijack a hovercraft

And then you getaway to DC while the black tusk board the hovercraft and bomb it

[dark kayak]

At night you get a three way fight between friendlies, BT and Rikers, with explosions blurring everything

[frozen meadow]

Also if you go to the wrong boss at the wrong time you just die immediately

[dark kayak]

And spatial awareness did not take into account three grenade tosses in less than two seconds lmao

[frozen meadow]

But the order is randomized

[hybrid ore]

Eevee, remember our fanfic rule.

[dark kayak]

Now that's not raid it's radioactive

[hybrid ore]

this is getting a little close to "and then they became my friend".

[frozen meadow]

There's a rule?

[swift temple]

I approve of the mechnic of insta wipe if uou dont do the mechanics. Or if you take to long. Like a timer. But to have something hit you that hard in a regular fight is silly. Not sure what build would save you

[hybrid ore]

tl;dr we had to outright ban them from the server after a certain former member posted multiple chapters daily.

[frozen meadow]

Bruh

[hybrid ore]

and I do mean chapters

[frozen meadow]

No this is a reasonable raid that makes canonical sense

It's just literally a raid and not GO ROOM TO ROOM PRESS BUTTON KILL BOSS

[dark kayak]

I mean a fight going apeshit the second you enter in is just ridiculous

[frozen meadow]

or you could literally just call it glorified countdown

[hybrid ore]

Is there a point in the raid where the mechanics are explained to you and demonstrated in a safe way?

[frozen meadow]

In the same or similar way that raids are explained as-is

[hybrid ore]

otherwise it's just an insta-lose button.

[frozen meadow]

Like the crucible info being posted on the wall

The schedule for bosses will be posted in the visitors centre

[dark kayak]

It's a "remove your fingers from your ass and guess shit before they arrive" n

[frozen meadow]

Nah I'm not that dumb

[dark kayak]

That.... is not what I meant in the slightest

[frozen meadow]

It's gonna be hard enough to require actual reasoning and logical thinking but not hard enough to just be straight up guessing

[hybrid ore]

Is there a lore reason that the schedule for bosses is being posted ingame?

[dark kayak]

I meant the order and the sequence of events

[swift temple]

Also no skill when you try to shoot one guy from 15 others and there is a mech dog on the other side of the map that just insta kill you. Dont know what they were thinking

[frozen meadow]

Yes because troop rotations for the night

[dark kayak]

I mean you can replay missions where you headshot the group boss earlier, so lore wise it dum

[frozen meadow]

The actual order isn't being posted

But troop schedules are so you have to go in at the right times

[dark kayak]

Were you full on health and protection ?

[hybrid ore]

I believe the accepted canon for missions is that the first time we run one is the canon run, each subsequent run is not.

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[dark kayak]

I mean yeah. I only mentioned that asking about a lore reason for something in the player UI is a bit far-fetched

[hybrid ore]

I mean, if you played the World Tiers you'd know that the current missions are all BT now, what with Invadeds being a thing.

[hybrid ore]

Nope, that's just good design and keeps a consistent world.

[frozen meadow]

They already established the entire UI is canonical

In the recruiter mission

[hybrid ore]

We actually canonically have an eye-lens in, which is why shocks hurt so much.

this was established pre-wony.

[frozen meadow]

Wait when

[swift temple]

I guess as full as you can get. I have 1.6 million armor. Dont think any build have over 21 million

[dark kayak]

Well that I did not know (and stop there, I don't want you to go smug on me)

[hybrid ore]

There's some lore page I read yonks back now, but I recall it being mentioned a ton when I first joined.

[still juniper]

important question, should i go for mag size or raw damage on my LMG

[stuck sapphire]

I would do damage

[frozen meadow]

Damage to target out of cover

[dark kayak]

Machine gund are meant to just spray bullets, however it is mostly your taste

[still juniper]

i have a stoner, with 124k 200 rounds, or i could use my RPK, which is faster and deals more damage but only holds 65 shots

[hybrid ore]

LMG's come with dtooc.
@still juniper for LMG's, the 3rd attribute should normally be something like fire-rate or crit chance, etc.

[still juniper]

yeah but i mean the LMG itself

should i prioritize a heavier hitting LMG, or an LMG that has more bullets

[dark kayak]

Honestly the 200 round LMG feels like that one guy whose car is too noisy for the perf showcased

[hybrid ore]

l86 and rpk are good and fast, mg5 and even negev these days hits fairly hard.

[still juniper]

also, the base negev kinda sucks, its got too low damage for a sniper build backup

[dark kayak]

"Sniper build"
Not LMG build

[swift temple]

What is it called, golden somthing, which you never have to reload. Exotic. Kind of fun to run with

[hybrid ore]

Negev was buffed in resolve, although the idea behind using an SMG or elmo is more the innate crit chance.

you dont have room to stack up crit on an MMR setup

[swift temple]

You can really go rambo with that gun 🙂

[kind veldt]

i think eye thing we have was stablished in some original div1 trailers

[still juniper]

fair, but LMG's just hit so damn hard, what should i prioritize?

[still juniper]

bullet king, but im using mantis

[hybrid ore]

I never watched them, I specifically recall reading it in a wiki page.

[dark kayak]

Your main build mostly

[still juniper]

holy crap i think i have a perfect swap chain

it has 15% damage, 21% crit, and perfect unwavering

[hybrid ore]

hah, found it! https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Contact_Lens

[swift temple]

Yeah, bullet king. LMG not my kind of cup of tea. But quite fun to run that one I must say

problem is that they all stay in cover

[dark kayak]

I mostly stick to a AR/shotgun with half protection half weapon dmg stuff

[still juniper]

riven, isnt this the perfect swap chain?

both its core attributes are max level

[kind veldt]

Yeah, there was also something similar in one of the mission impossible movies

[hybrid ore]

I do appreciate in those movies that the tech never works properly.

@still juniper sounds like some good base stats!

[swift temple]

Really enjoy my "Dark Winter" SMG

[still juniper]

yeah, 15% damage and 21% crit rate, thats really op isnt it?

[dark kayak]

Das gut

[still juniper]

danke schon

also holy crap, it reloads and mag dumps in a flash, i accidentally crashed my game using it lol

[swift temple]

Would like to have the "ouroboros" but no luck so far

[hybrid ore]

I mean it's just decent stats, it's not "OP".

[still juniper]

400% handling is nothing to scoff at lmao

[hybrid ore]

Just remember that "weapon handling" is Accuracy/Reload/Stablity/Swap speed, 1% in WH is 1% in each of those 4 stats.

so it's very accurate for however long the buff is.

[still juniper]

yeah that is really powerful, and 5 seconds is plenty to burst down anything that gets too close to me

[hybrid ore]

It's alright, I still prefer Strained for the damage buff.

[dark kayak]

Anyways imma sleep, it's midnight

[still juniper]

goodnight noyanne

[kind veldt]

They did increase mp7 rof that extra handling kinda helps morr

[still juniper]

i mean, this thing is awesome

it reloads in an instant, the reticle never moves an inch, and you draw it in a flash

[dark kayak]

And Eevee, if you wanna check out my current gear and weaponry and suggest something better or something else to use, feel free

Or show the guys what I have so they can give feedbacks (so far I did not post it so you only can see)

[frozen meadow]

I got water ice and stopped paying attention

What's happening

[hybrid ore]

If you enjoy the WH buff on that, you can actually get a famas with the same kinda thing going on, called "Burn Out", it's farmable anywhere that regular guns are.

[dark kayak]

Who Rivens ?

[still juniper]

true, i got one

[frozen meadow]

Burn out is just a cop out for having bad aim while still being obsessed with the famad

[hybrid ore]

I mean it doesn't have bad aim, you do.

Just point the reticule down a bit.

[frozen meadow]

Lol

[dark kayak]

Just aim

[hybrid ore]

brr mouse goes down

[frozen meadow]

If you have good aim use a famas
If you have bad aim don't use a famas
There's no burn out in those two

[still juniper]

man is it just me or are all ubisoft games being really slow lately

[frozen meadow]

Just you

[hybrid ore]

All is pretty vague. The launcher has been a bit choppy since they changed to the new one.

[still juniper]

like, the servers have been crap

[frozen meadow]

That's definitely just you

[still juniper]

for honor is unbearably laggy and div keeps outright DC'ing me, i can play destiny or remnant just fine

[stuck sapphire]

Rotten luck i suppose

[hybrid ore]

Yeah that's you.

if my internet is fine, then it's probably not the game.

actually speaking of which the internet hampster is getting tired.

[still juniper]

have a good night then riven

also, i really wish i could replay invaded missions whenever instead of waiting for rotation

[frozen meadow]

Eh they're incredibly stale

[hybrid ore]

The extra xp is nice.
night y'all!

[still juniper]

yeah but nemesis

[stuck sapphire]

Ni ni

[frozen meadow]

The whole point of the nemesis is to wait lmao

That's literally by design

[still juniper]

yes, and its a bad idea

[stuck sapphire]

Not really. People are just impatient.

[still juniper]

well sorry if i dont want to wait three weeks for a single gun

[sick thicket]

Thank you so much

[lethal halo]

So my prediction was right after all…

[frozen meadow]

Then don't get it

You're not required to

[lethal halo]

What did I just walk into?

I just got back from being upset at the vanguard season ending in a cliffhanger that bummed me out

[still juniper]

its the strongest sniper in the game, and im a sniper build

i kinda am required to get it lol

[frozen meadow]

In damage yes I'm functionality no

[still juniper]

ok technically the .50 BMG is the strongest but you get my point

[frozen meadow]

in damage yes in functionality no

[small spear]

even in speedrun use cases it's quite limited

it's not urgent to get it

[summer kestrel]

Heya guys , a question. I just finished doing the Kelso manhunt , and i seem to be missing exactly 1 intel comm. I tried rerunning the last quest couple of times and it doesnt show up. Any clues?
After checking further , the missing intel in question is called "Kelso 5"

[sick thicket]

Thank you so much

[polar bolt]

Do you need to deal the killing blow to activate the lady death 20% movement speed on kill

[frozen meadow]

yes

[polar bolt]

tyvm 👍

[frosty wadi]

I mean

It says on kill

If something says on kill it always means from you unless it previously brings up teammates

[polar bolt]

ah ok

ty

[elfin hazel]

you need to redo the whole manhunt atm

[summer kestrel]

Thanks for the info , ill do just that

[frozen meadow]

you call the landscapers to plant some grass

[frozen meadow]

my brutus somehow just hit for 41 mil no crit

crazy

[torpid tendon]

Speakint of which, is there a way to reset the dlc something? I still couldn't solve that shd tech thing. I think it glitched real bad 🥲

[frozen meadow]

wdym

[torpid tendon]

I'm missing 1 shd tech crate at two bridges. A few weeks ago I sent a video here going to all the five locations there, and all the crates were already open.... But I still have the project active, it says I'm 4/5

[frozen meadow]

are you sure youre missing one

[torpid tendon]

Gotta reply on #ask-td2-community

[azure lintel]

87k wtf

highest ive seen is like 8k?

[frozen meadow]

highest ive seen was like 280k

[quick hazel]

I’ve seen 100k day one players. Back when resource convoys were a thing.

[frozen meadow]

maybe like 520 idk

[quick hazel]

Even with exploits, I can’t imagine myself no-lifing any game. That’s crazy 520k.

[tawny garden]

Is the incursion more difficult than legendary?

i have bad experiences with random groups in legendary - quite frankly not enjoying doin these anymore

will i have a good time doin the incursion with randys?

[frosty wadi]

No

But random groups can be even worse in incursion depending on who you get

[tawny garden]

:S

[frosty wadi]

The incursion realistically isn’t that hard but you need actual team coordination

[frozen meadow]

bored

[small spear]

do bidal tasin

[frozen meadow]

nobody to do it with

[small spear]

me

[frozen meadow]

ok then

[faint valve]

anyone doing legen summit for bighorn exotic?

[opal venture]

Just completed a control point on heroic difficulty and got all purples, is this normal or am I just super unlucky

[frozen meadow]

you cant get purples on heroic are you sure it was on heroic and not hard

[dark sand]

Dang can't seem to find last dead drop ... I tried searching and even looked up youtube videos but most of them haven't been updated and they are from 5 years ago

[frozen meadow]

the last what

[dark sand]

Comms

[frozen meadow]

idk what that is

what comm specifically

[dark sand]

You know how .. in each manhunt .. they speak out a recording

[frozen meadow]

yes

[dark sand]

its like that

[tawny garden]

but which one

https://thedivision.fandom.com/wiki/Dead_Drops_Comms

those?

[frozen meadow]

thats not div 2

i think

[dark sand]

Hold up for Division 2 .. I believe I can't seem to get Dead Drop: Greener Poison

Whenever I check in youtube video is from 5 years ago.. it seem the comms have moved somewhere else

[frozen meadow]

possiblwe

[dark sand]

I tried searching for updated comms relevant and it seems like a no go .. so far gonna have to ask other people

[tawny garden]

i remember i searched them all with google help

[frozen meadow]

have you checked the map

the map tracker

[opal venture]

my global difficulty is Heroic, not sure why a control point would be different than the global difficulty

[frozen meadow]

and all the loot is purple?

[opal venture]

yep, an RPK, M1928, and a turret mod, all purple

[frozen meadow]

were they from open world crates

[opal venture]

no, from the control point supply room

[frozen meadow]

do you have a picture of it

[opal venture]

no, I should've

[torpid plume]

Sounds like it was just bad luck

[frozen meadow]

thats not luck

[carmine sky]

Just found my first St Elmos in a basic loot chest coming out of a safehouse lol I didn't even know you could find exotics in these.

[azure lintel]

dang no one be running incursions ;-;

[frozen meadow]

if you can get 2 others im in

[azure lintel]

just need 1 more person then :p

[dark sand]

I am not gonna lie .. games I am currently playing are watch dogs legion, division 2, halo infinite, and ghost recon breakpoint

Mostly been playing division 2 .. as a beginner player started 3 weeks .. am trying to get all comms .. have been doing alot of countdown and will come back and grind later

[frozen meadow]

not gonna lie, foxes really like vanilla ice cream

[dark sand]

yummy

[frozen meadow]

do not eat the fox

[dark sand]

🤣

[azure lintel]

what is your ubisoft? so i can invite

[frozen meadow]

lemme finish this first

[azure lintel]

kk

huh you can /invite people thats kinda cool

nvm think still need 2 more

[frozen meadow]

@azure lintel ready when you are

sorry that took long lol

[azure lintel]

whats your ign?

[small spear]

if y'all need 1 more i can also do

[azure lintel]

:o

sure shoot me over your username

[small spear]

dien.aka.kim

[frozen meadow]

i wonder what my ign is

[small spear]

eevee's ign is same as name

[frozen meadow]

my birth name is ChampionEevee

[small spear]

waiting for invite

or if you're full let me know if you need filler

[frozen meadow]

lol

@wraith bane i didnt read your message, i have pretty much every exo besides the current seasons rewards track ones

[wraith bane]

I see thanks for the heads up. Have fun man

[frozen meadow]

i just havent played in months lol

[wraith bane]

I see I see

[small spear]

@frozen meadow crungo

[frozen meadow]

lol

are you the one who got 2023m damage

[small spear]

idk

didn't even look at the screen

[frozen meadow]

im gonna assume it was you

[small spear]

i'm weak

[frozen meadow]

cuz we were 3 mil apart in boss damage lol

[waxen crest]

Anybody queue up with some used napkin named victor or is it just me?

[dark sand]

nice meal

[opal radish]

I thought it was 2024M dmg

[barren copper]

I really like that now the third attribute on exotic weapons is random. But more is needed.
Many exotic items want to be used in different combinations of equipment, but they become ineffective due to their auxiliary characteristics. I wanted to have random auxiliary characteristics on exotic equipment. This will diversify the possible combinations of equipment, increase the popularity of some exotic items and encourage those who already have everything to hunt for exotic equipment again.
-Exotics should not take up space in the inventory (similar to named specialization pistols) - this will make it possible to store and unload the filled box of equipment.
-Change of visual style (appearance) for exotic equipment.

[undone timber]

The only one I want is exotic transmogs

Having exotics be opened up for random attributes is begging to make everyone's farming experience like 10 times worse

Imagine a health/explosive resistance coyote

[livid wind]

i just got a memento and coyote mask from helping a dude with a heroic mission

kinda stoked

[small spear]

nice

[opal radish]

What can we do is allow both slots to be rerollable on exotics

[umbral kite]

hey, anyone able to recommend an active lfg discord ? after some research i found the gcrock one but are there other good ones ? Thanks

[hybrid ore]

GCrock and the community div2 server are the other 2 big ones outside of here.

[inner elbow]

Yup

[grizzled imp]

hey guys. i'm hanging on my blueprint collection. for example: there are some bp, which requires "season 8 reward". are they gone forever, or do i have a option, to take them somehow?

[full zinc]

if they rerun a season they can drop, otherwise not available.
if youre trying to get a named item blueprint, they might drop from descent . there is a list of available bp pinned in #td2-descent

[umbral kite]

gotcha thanks you for the reply !

[maiden lake]

Guys I'm a returning player and I missed most of the manhunts after a long hiatus. I seem to have a bug with the Puppeteers Legacy manhunt at Camp White Oak. I only have 5 Comms collectibles, and no matter how many times I run it, I can't get any more to drop from named enemies. But every other manhunt mission is dropping Comms from named enemies. Am I missing something or is it a known bug?

[maiden lake]

I'm also trying to get all the hunter outfit rewards for referring a friend. I've put my unique code in the refer a friend section of this group, but not sure what happens next? I believe you have to do 3 missions with the agent(s) that confirm?

[tawny garden]

Planning on joining some Incursion group
would it be good to watch a video beforehand for mechanics or is this missionn selfexplanatory like all the other 4man squad missions?

[kind veldt]

Watch or read basic

Someone running like a headless chicken can backfire on the incursion

[fair herald]

Do people still do raids in this discord ? Is there a more active discord somewhere else ? Thanks in advance

[kind veldt]

#td2-general-chat message

[frozen meadow]

Mornin friends

Oh and morning to you too bird

[tawny garden]

how can anyone say hh/determined build is easy mode
Everytime i play it and then die in some robots only room switching back to HeartBreaker im astonished how i can mow down everything running around with my shield

[stuck sapphire]

Morning ya hekin champs

[frozen meadow]

did they fix determined?

i wouldnt know i dont use it

[tawny garden]

Didnt they fix and then unfix it again because it was cooler unfixed?

its not a bug its a feature

[frozen meadow]

does it still proc itself

[tawny garden]

yea

[frozen meadow]

ok

you realize you can hit dogs in the feet and it bypasses armour right

[tawny garden]

i cant build HH stacks off of only robots tho

[frozen meadow]

yeah you need an enemy to start

but you can keep stacks easily if you just have one enemy

[tawny garden]

thats why i said "robots only room"

[frozen meadow]

what room are you referring to specifically

[tawny garden]

like the BT bunker mission which is on right now
6 dogs + 1 heavy at the end

[frozen meadow]

theres regular enemies before that

[tawny garden]

Ok but that still needs the player to know he has to quickly move on to not lose stack and even than you can only kill the first robot and then the stacks gone

[frozen meadow]

but when you shoot dogs it counts as a headshot

[stuck sapphire]

Lol. Y'all are adorable

[frozen meadow]

kindly piss off

[tropic compass]

How did ||keener|| get upto the manhattan bridge and why cant we?

[frozen meadow]

rocket jumping

[tawny garden]

Its still a prerequisite you have to keep in mind and play around with and your squishy af
While doin some HB setup you just walk around mow things down with holding down mouse button

Striker atleast comes with squishyness for its damage

[frozen meadow]

so you need to have slight common sense to aim

[tawny garden]

thats basically my point

That those AR spambuilds are still pretty strong compared vs most other builds

[frozen meadow]

its slower than hh tho

[opal radish]

And than you face a maruder drone

[frozen meadow]

most missions dont have those

[opal radish]

I went to manhunt with HH

Regretted it

[frozen meadow]

same

but im not complaining cuz i dont have a skill issue

[opal radish]

Dogs with no hh stack is pita

[opal radish]

Me neither

[stuck sapphire]

I just shoot drones with my pistol.

[frozen meadow]

i wanna see you take out a marauder like that lmao

[opal radish]

I took out Roosevelt maruder drones with emp

On a full yellow build

[kind veldt]

howdy

well if HH could deal with dogs and marauders truly it would be the build to end all other builds

[frozen meadow]

determined does deal with dogs if you have it precharged

[stuck sapphire]

Do people struggle with those or does the build?

[frozen meadow]

both

people get so comfortable with the builds that they cant compensate their downsides

[opal radish]

Depends on the cap

[frozen meadow]

wdym

[stuck sapphire]

That's kinda funny. Peeps gotta adapt. Raw dps ain't everything.

[opal radish]

Your damage cap determines whether the dog will one shot or not

[frozen meadow]

unfortunately most players havent realized this yet

[stuck sapphire]

For shame.

[opal radish]

Yeah also people running determined on SC

[frozen meadow]

whats sc

[opal radish]

Softcore characters

[hybrid ore]

Let's not use that term anymore.

[opal radish]

Btw did I tell you how I lost my Hardcore character

[opal radish]

I didn't meant anything bad 😅

[stuck sapphire]

Lol. Some people

So how is everyone doing this fine day?

[still juniper]

Decently enough, but trying to get nemesis isn't going well

[maiden lake]

I'm still having issues with these Comms not dropping in Puppeteers legacy manhunt. I can't find any info on it anywhere

And still trying to work out how this friend referral thing works

[tawny garden]

People who constantly impute skill issues to other people for sure have emotional issues tho

[kind veldt]

mostly in a perfect play scenario a time to kill of 0 by simply one shotting everything that appears is the strongest and fastest

of course achieving such perfect is pretty much impossible

and some enemies such as heavies and etc counter that

you still end up with one of the most efficient and stupidly strong builds due determined guaranteed headshot and headhunter stupidly high damage cap

[tawny garden]

The point for me is that while HH builds can one shot stuff and have a pretty high ttk its still needs mechanics to pull it off and has major downsides.

While on the other hand Bulletspam builds have ttk that is nearly similar and often come without major disadvantages mechanically. You press button you do massive damage.

[stuck sapphire]

Sounds like player preference to me.

[tawny garden]

I can play both just fine so im not complaining from the point of bad skill. But judging the balance

[opal radish]

Depends on situation

[sick thicket]

Toxic dps players

[stuck sapphire]

They seem fine to me. People always complain about balance. What is the criteria for it? Almost every answer will vary.

[sick thicket]

It really ruins my immersion when I'm taking cover strategically clearing an AO, and someone with this absolute BS sniper builds comes in and just starts 1 tapping things in the toe. This is one of the many reasons why I just cannot stand the division 2 community.

[stuck sapphire]

It's a video game. It's fiction. A looter shooter even. You're annoyed because people have a better build? I dunno. That be wack yoo.

[sick thicket]

Whatever dude. That type of shit is repulsive.

[stuck sapphire]

Toxic people are annoying. People that go around with better builds playing the game arn't.

[tawny garden]

For me it ruins immersion when some dude with AR and shield stands at some door and facetaking while mowing stuff down in miliseconds.

I know determined is shit but i think it was atleast partially made legit by the stupid bulletspam meta that is overpowered.

[sick thicket]

It blows my mind that someone has the audacity to join someone else's lobby and instantly start 1 tapping things, with a build that requires little to no thinking power. This is why I play solo

It's not a better build, it's quite literally bug abuse and these players should be banned.

[kind veldt]

right now for me determined > regular DPS striker, but not like by a big gap or that one invalidates the other

[fluid meadow]

Fairly sure it got fixed but then got reverted for some reason

[kind veldt]

cant use determined for raid and incursion properly

[fluid meadow]

It simply wasn't supposed to chain but it does so yeah

[kind veldt]

but sure as well you might forget you are in heroic 5 directives when playing since everything just turns to dust in sights

[tawny garden]

I think youre right
But if we want to have snipers need to headshot again we also need to lower Automatic Guns power cause sniper otherwise is borderline useless in most hektik situations

[tawny garden]

This.

[kind veldt]

snipers in design are player skill = power, weapons

[fluid meadow]

It's also a funny idea that you want to use a headshot build but don't go for headshots

[stuck sapphire]

It's silly to complain about people with better builds. Unless they're being toxic. If you feel someone is actually gaming the system, report them. It's simple.

[kind veldt]

snipers are not the problem determined is, neither are automatic the problem

[sick thicket]

Whats the difference between determined and soft aim aimbotting? So we're encouraging cheating. Thanks devs

[tawny garden]

Im not complaining about other people but the games balance. Im tired of the dominance of bulletspam to the point where i feel nerfing my selfe if dont play it.

[kind veldt]

dunno man i play funky builds 99% of the time and i feel fine, unless doing more serious content like raids or incursion is fine to run whatever

truly unusable things are really low in numbers

like the semi auto snipers such as G28 and MK20 SSR

[stuck sapphire]

Imma be honest chief. In the kindest way possible. I really think that's a you issue. If people are kicking you or being toxic over your build, then i understand.

For contex. I'm pretty much a full blue tanky gal. I do almost no damage. Pure support. I ain't no dps snob.

[kind veldt]

well i'm the weirdo that loves OD more than he should

[stuck sapphire]

Pulling out my shield and giving everyone on the squad 1 million armor is always nice.

[still juniper]

Man I just want to see the funny number go very, very beeg

Presently the highest I've gotten it is 21 million

[stuck sapphire]

Ain't nothing wrong with that. Pop off king. I just hate toxic peeps.

[tawny garden]

Doesnt anybody understand that what is not sitting right with me is that when comparing a classic sniper build (without determined) the effort to put in is much higher than compared against a bullet spam build like striker or HB where i hold down mouse1 button and out dps effortlessly?

Thats just not good balance in my book

[still juniper]

i think the main improvement i can get is nemesis, since mantis is my old rifle, presently i use a Ranger SR-1, and nemesis has fucking boogoo bullshit base damage

[stuck sapphire]

I understand that. But like, there are pros and cons to both.

[still juniper]

plus, isnt nemesis scope like +50% HSD?

[stuck sapphire]

That might help a smidgen.

[still juniper]

isnt an all red build nemesis base damage like 2 million?

[fluid meadow]

The charge cripples the sniper in pve.
It's really useful when stacking your HH initially

[stuck sapphire]

I believe so

[still juniper]

honestly i just want it so i can see funny number, thats by sole goal in this game

[fluid meadow]

HH is your friend then

[still juniper]

i dont care about shooting fast, i dont give a tinkers damn about the meta, i just want to see a crispy 30 mil off nemesis headshot

[fluid meadow]

As well as Achilles and a number of other buffs

Reanimated is also coming this reset so expect your damage numbers tenfold

[still juniper]

whats reanimated do

[fluid meadow]

All about headshots and it increases your headshot damage

[still juniper]

ohoho

[full zinc]

Like 3x hsd , probably more tbh

[still juniper]

ooh

[fluid meadow]

On a HH all blue regulus (no hsd rolls) i was able to get around 72M

I expect a shit ton more with a dedicated build and a sniper

[full zinc]

Iirc I had a white death last time doing like 120mil. Was pretty rediculous

[still juniper]

ON A BLUE BUILD?

[fluid meadow]

All you need is HH and you're set with any kind of build

[full zinc]

Then the clouds from the headshot kills doing further damage

[still juniper]

also, quick question, what is a good exotic to run on a sniper build?

i was thinking coyotes but i was told thats some kinda sin

[full zinc]

Probably can use determines mmr and any other pieces and still steamroll tbh. With the increase it got headhunter isnt even a requirement

[still juniper]

oh no, im gonna use ranger/nemesis

[full zinc]

Good, nem will hit some really insane numbers

[still juniper]

nemesis is a little less of a sure bet, i still have 2 weeks before i can have it unless i find someone with it thats willing to grind summit with me

but i already have a Ranger's SR-1

[stuck sapphire]

I would if crossplay was a thing.

[full zinc]

Did you get the blueprint last week, or maybe 2 weeks ago, from grand Washington invaded

[still juniper]

No I just reinstalled like 2 days ago

[full zinc]

Oic. RIP.

[frozen meadow]

Meow

[still juniper]

Also, on a dedicated nemesis build, would perfect focus be better than HH due to how slow followup shots are?

[full zinc]

No, headhunter is a monster damage boost

[still juniper]

Yeah but it requires rapid followup shots

Nemesis doesn't really do that

[fluid meadow]

Not really

[still juniper]

No?

[fluid meadow]

You have 30 seconds

[still juniper]

Doesnt the timer shorten as you keep stacking tho?

[undone timber]

Nah that's just the hud

[full zinc]

No. It refreshes iirc

[still juniper]

Oh, i didn't know that

[undone timber]

You get your first shot with nemesis then swap to a faster sniper

[still juniper]

No, this is a dedicated nemesis build

[undone timber]

If you use nemesis

[undone timber]

Nemesis isn't as good as a primary sniper in pve

[still juniper]

No other sniper, just nemesis, a Tommy gun, and a revolver

[opal radish]

🦊

[undone timber]

It's super slow

[stuck sapphire]

Nah. So basically you do a striker build. With a shield and liberty pistol. It's free real estate fellas.

[undone timber]

And if you miss yikes

[still juniper]

That's the point

[opal radish]

Need 6pcs 5.11

[frozen meadow]

I thought it was 20

[still juniper]

I want to work on my aim so I don't miss

[undone timber]

Is 30

[fluid meadow]

30 SECONDS!

[frozen meadow]

Ah

[undone timber]

Use regulus instead

Or mantis

[still juniper]

And having a sluggish, hard hitting sniper rifle that has hella zoom is perfect

[frozen meadow]

I use Brutus tbh

[undone timber]

Wh-

[still juniper]

Mantis doesn't zoom enough imo

[frozen meadow]

good initial shot dmg

[undone timber]

What are you trying to hit that's 20 blocks away😭

[frozen meadow]

isnt mantis 12x

[undone timber]

Good point

[fluid meadow]

8x

[still juniper]

That smug fucker over there

[frozen meadow]

ah

[frozen meadow]

dont call me that ;-;\

[still juniper]

8x isn't enough zoom, that guy is far away and I'm colorblind

[opal radish]

You took that in yourself

[frozen meadow]

lol

[undone timber]

This why we got colourblind settings

[fluid meadow]

I believe nemesis extends to 16x

[stuck sapphire]

We're all smug.

[still juniper]

So gimme that spotter drone and let me put a thermagnetic slug through his head

[frozen meadow]

so does digital scope

[civic ridge]

bug?

[undone timber]

Time to ban most of the player base

[still juniper]

Doesn't help when the enemies wear black in dark tunnels, or white on a bright day

[undone timber]

Everyone is using that shit

[undone timber]

They all have lights strapped to their chests and shit

[fluid meadow]

That's why it got reverted lol

[still juniper]

Gimme that spotter drone, gimme 16x optical zoom, and let me put a railgun round through that stupid mask

[stuck sapphire]

Put a railgun... on the drone.

[still juniper]

No, the drone moves too much

[frozen meadow]

last night i somehow hit for 41 no crit with only future buff

[fluid meadow]

With max HH?

[frozen meadow]

ye

[still juniper]

Doesn't help when they just peak their heads out of cover

[frozen meadow]

41 no-crit is a fuck ton for a sniper lol

[still juniper]

Spotter drone ftw, outlines what I want to shoot at

[frozen meadow]

let alone brutus

[opal radish]

Brutus ?

[frozen meadow]

i run brutus yes

[stuck sapphire]

Nah. It's not enough. Go further beyond.

[opal radish]

I run preservation

[frozen meadow]

ok

for heals i just use a fixer drone lol

[undone timber]

41 mil is wild

[opal radish]

I use spotter drone and decoy

[frozen meadow]

it really is

my avg is 30-33

[opal radish]

You should also have other buff but you didn't realised

[fluid meadow]

How much will that be in reanimated?

[frozen meadow]

w/o buffs

[frozen meadow]

nah i double triple checked

[opal radish]

Oppo or Scorpio shot?

[frozen meadow]

neither

[opal radish]

Survivalist buff ?

[frozen meadow]

maybe? idfk

dont recall it

[opal radish]

6pcs 5.11 buff from someone

[undone timber]

10 morbillion

[frozen meadow]

i just hit 32.2 no buffs

[fluid meadow]

Expertise?

[frozen meadow]

24 lol

24.5

[opal radish]

Want to play tidal?

[frozen meadow]

join me

nvm full lol

[opal radish]

💔

[stuck sapphire]

Rip

[sick thicket]

So after completing my morning routine, I decided to load up some Division 2. I thought oh, why not pick up where I left off in the most recent manhunt. So, why not liven things up a bit, open up my group and call for backup. That should make things more fun, right? Low and behold the first person that joins, is an exploiter of the determined bug, however I don't know this yet. I see that they have a reviver hive paired with a spotter drone. "Wow!" I say to myself, "this person is a sniper, this should be interesting." In due fashion they quickly focus a red enemy, but this is where they reveal just how low they are. I quickly notice the determined talent proc above their head. Before they can even fire their 2nd shot at the next enemy, I quickly navigate to the social tab in hopes of removing them from my lobby. Unfortunately, before I could do this another player joined the lobby. My remove player option has now been turned into a vote to remove player option. So, surely this player will aid me in removing them from my lobby, right? No. The 30 second countdown expires, and they're still in the game. I ask myself, "why didn't they vote to remove them with me?" After struggling to come up with an answer to this question, I decide to inspect this player's build, and oh wow, would you look at that? This person is exploiting the bug as well. Hunter's fury, with determined on a D50 pistol. In other words there are now 2 bug abusers in direct cahoots, ruining my manhunt experience. This is disgusting, and should be addressed as soon as possible. These bug abusers, not to mention EXPLOITERS, should not be going unpunished. I've officially uninstalled the game and will not be picking it back up until there is something done about this issue.

[stuck sapphire]

Garbage. Lol

But did you report any of them?

[civic ridge]

Ah let me rephrase quick: What is the Determined bug?
That post only said: I don't like Determined users, but failed to explain the problem.

[stuck sapphire]

I mean. Dude is just wilin. Coulda just left and joined another queue.

[small spear]

you can't do that with or without determined tho

[undone timber]

there isnt a bug

determined works as intended

[small spear]

you're saying determined is bad in a situation where hh with or without determined is useless...

[fluid meadow]

I'm pretty sure the determined talent explicitly states that the headshot with determined will not retrigger the talent
But it does

[undone timber]

they changed it then changed it back so its not like they can't 'fix' it

[civic ridge]

Pretty much what I expected ya. so the "bug" is in the comprehension as usual.

the perfectly determined states it. not the normal one

[undone timber]

thats the perfect one iirc

[small spear]

have you seen the copypastas i got recently

[undone timber]

normal used to but now it's accurate

[fluid meadow]

Don't you think it's rather weird the perfect version is a nerfed version from the normal one?
That's just me tho

[undone timber]

we owe our lives to dien

[undone timber]

its pretty dumb but that's where we are rn

[civic ridge]

Kind of ya. due to the way it works the normal one is better. the perfect one always crits but then leads to less damage.

[sick thicket]

lol no, haven't been on here too much lately

[small spear]

nah in the other server

[fluid meadow]

I would love to see them

[sick thicket]

nah i havent

[tawny garden]

No im saying the hh/determined build in general
Or ...Headshot builds in general are bad for those situations

[small spear]

yeah... everyone says it's easy mode with that in mind already

[tawny garden]

Achilles pulse is something i would really like to have buffed and more usable for a redcore sniper

[stuck sapphire]

Yes

Make it spread to multiple targets.

[tawny garden]

Aswell as having no "max health" for it

[undone timber]

its already perfectly usable but you need an OC

[stuck sapphire]

Yes.

[tawny garden]

it sucks that you do some damage and then the weakspot is gone

[undone timber]

of course if you're all red it's not gonna be good

[sick thicket]

I'm calling for a ban on all determined bug exploiters. They are taking a toll on my mental health.

[stuck sapphire]

Have it spread after you kill a target, no max health.