td2-general-chat

[azure lintel]

Snappiness and responsiveness in div1 will forever be in my heart

[jolly talon]

so I was wondering can I solo a stronghold or should I matchmake ? considering I am just level 25 😅

[azure lintel]

It's possible but at that level... I have no clue

[azure lintel]

Give it a shot solo and let it rip

[random quest]

Do sidemissions, capture control points, get level 30

[azure lintel]

If it doesnt work out then queue

[jolly talon]

ok thanks 😄

[still temple]

the ”new” mechanic is already in game, on the NPCs side 😉 and is already broken, I saw many times NPCs prone right behind cover with no line of sight/fire 🤣

maybe they'll be able to implement it correctly this time in Division 3 🙃

[azure lintel]

Wasn't there like 2 other division games being developed?

[stark heron]

Same

Despite it having what seems to be significantly more content it requires more dedication, and it feels repetitive

[azure lintel]

I play the division and a game feeling repetitive to me might say something lol

[stark heron]

Heartland (Extraction Shooter) and Resurgence (mobile)

[azure lintel]

Has any launched yet?

[stark heron]

Nope

Honestly resurgence would be interesting

Probably could see peripheral support for those who hate touch controls

[random quest]

Resurgence is slated for a Q1 2024 release last I heard, so very soon, and Heartlands should be this year.

[jolly talon]

i am just loving that the devs are putting a lot of working in Div 2 and i am happy i had yt vid on my page saying what is to come as well

[sand herald]

"should be"

[inner elbow]

Every mission in Warframe is speeds
Capture: rush to extraction simulator

[azure lintel]

Pretty much, as much as I love the movement and combat, anything else puts me off lol

[regal sage]

Whats the fastes way to get from lvl 32-40 in D2 `?

[azure lintel]

By far the slowest lvl up, prob joining somone of higher lvl and getting them to help you out farming on the world

[still temple]

ask a lvl 40 friend to join your session and ”carry” you through the campaign, it will take around two and a half hours

[regal sage]

Thanks!

[ebon bramble]

is countdown the fastest exotic cache farm?

[dapper sapphire]

How do you deal with drone operators in legendary missions? They seems to hide a lot behind all the enemies and at the very back of the areas.

[ebon bramble]

I would imagine try to take them out first, otherwise keep at least one person on explosive drone duty and have everyone teamshot the machinegun/grenade turrets

or EMP jammer but the range kinda sucks

[azure lintel]

Best way for me at least is a sniper build and prioritize above all second to that any healer that may revive them

Creations of the demons those droners

[dapper sapphire]

Hotshot?. I don't seem to get the chain headshots going on legendary missions.

[dapper sapphire]

Agree..

[azure lintel]

Nemesis, hotshot, chainkiller ,the gift

And ofc having good aim helps lol

[ebon bramble]

if you stack damage high enough/and are lazy you can get away with a determined build, preferably with something like the model 700

should still be able to oneshot elites

[azure lintel]

can be hot shot, or if you find nemesis too hard to start initial damage you can run 4pc tip of the spear and just use tac50 as first shot since it will deal an amazing damage without chainkiller

[azure lintel]

This too

The only reason I use nemesis still is because of heavy guys

Getting rid of chungs as fast as possible helps too

[ebon bramble]

yea the higher base damage from nemesis works wonders there

[dapper sapphire]

@azure lintel can you direct me to a pre-made legendary sniper build. What talent does the gift come with. I don't have it.

[ebon bramble]

perfect vigilance, 25% damage

[dapper sapphire]

So countdown targeted backpacks?

[azure lintel]

25% damage, taking dmg removes buff for 3s

[ebon bramble]

yea, most important part is getting to the end since each hunter is guaranteed to drop a named item

could also try airaldis targeted loot which may or may not narrow it down

[full zinc]

Gift is dz only

[ebon bramble]

oh nevermind then

[full zinc]

Or named cache

[azure lintel]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwTgtMYAxgjGBmacCscY1h52MC4AmcSeeJFADlXTCqxwf2AIjjaS0zXrt0ejzAqkTA1jc+knIOLJ42cTSmTCJJCTFpe-FQHZ1iNCCQgAbGBCQQE6rDtxCKWVl06ai2C1h5lb-N4IYBCDIBHB6Ekw8BFdTc30wU1dFQLBdADpuIA

[azure lintel]

You can get just a normal providece with the same stats/talent

[dapper sapphire]

Dz and I'm out..lol. farm for hours to get loot stolen from some pvp player who probably has everything

[azure lintel]

Perfect vigilance and vigilance is only 1s difference

[dapper sapphire]

That sounds viable

[azure lintel]

Increases total weapon damage by 25%
Taking damage disables this buff for 4s

[ebon bramble]

kinda sucks how some loot is locked behind dz but I get it

[azure lintel]

Perfect vigilance only makes that 3s

[azure lintel]

True but how else will people play their messy pvp

😅

[azure lintel]

@dapper sapphire anyways you can also use tip of the spear 4pc trade off fox's for the 4th piece

And you can use the tac every few mins

Good as a starter to get your chainkiller going

[ebon bramble]

I will never touch pvp in this game not with a mile-long stick

[azure lintel]

I hit lvl 25 and just mehd out of it

Funny because I nolifed dz on div1 for like

1-2 years

[dapper sapphire]

I'll try that

[azure lintel]

Did nothing but get on and play dz with buds having fun doing 1v1s or 4v20s manhunts

[azure lintel]

Btw, if youre doing countdown, you can purchase named countdown caches, those can also drop the gift/chainkiller

[ebon bramble]

is there a way to take headhunter damage stacks into account with this tool?

[dapper sapphire]

Yea. Exotic components are guaranteed, so I buy exotic caches with that.

[jolly talon]

is just taking them over for now enough or do i have to resupply them all to keep them under my control?

[full zinc]

Tips no longer useful as a sniper build. They nerfed out the weapon damage boost.
Its hotshot > aces > high end now for sniper setups

[serene elk]

High end is making a rise back into meta

at least for the IH version

But for regular play you can continue to build 4pc Hotshot

The idea behind the high end is that a fully charged Nemesis can one shot a Elite medic with no HH stacks (but you still use 2pc Hotshot for stability)

Hmm or it’s still 3 for mmr damage now I’m confused

[full zinc]

Probably want ay least 3.

[random quest]

3p/4p hotshot > 4p Aces > High End with DCH

[undone timber]

30 hsd/handling/damage is nuts

[full zinc]

Actually can get away with 2. 3pc is more headshot

[serene elk]

You want that 30% tho

[full zinc]

I use all highend on regulus build with m700 carbon backup. Works pretty well

[serene elk]

Well that’s a different build

[full zinc]

Still uses mmr

[serene elk]

If you’re using regulus you’re building D&H

Punch drunk probably

[full zinc]

Also foxes/contractors. Helps everything

[serene elk]

My mind is currently struggling with so many builds

I need to build On Going Directive and a new sniper build and remake my demosplosion build 😭 so much to do so little time

[full zinc]

I should test out 2habs 2 hotshot airaldi foxs

[random quest]

Yeah, but there's a difference in running 2p Habsburg, 2p Airaldi, Contractor's and DCH (could probably run 1p Providence) with an MMR as primary and running the High-End Reggie build with punch drunk and DCH

[serene elk]

I will post a build a friend sent me in build advice

[random quest]

Anyways, home from uni and it's the weekend. Time to run countdown till my eyes bleed (or I get max stability roll on smg for my library - whichever comes first)

[azure lintel]

TD3 is still 2-3 years away from coming out. Doubt the TD2 expansion will keep people engaged until TD3 comes out. I also think the expansion which is coming out next year will be the final real content TD2 will receive. I would be very surprised if they have more than Manhunts and Global Events after that

I don't really understand why they announced TD3 so early when they don't even have an alpha up. Makes very little sense to me

Maybe they wanted to pull of the same thing as Bethesda with Elder Scrolls 6

"It's coming. See you in 10 years"

[random quest]

It's a very normal thing when you have an established game-universe to announce development - it's done differently, some have alpha ready, some doesn't.
TD was a dying game universe at one point, almost abandoned. Now TD2 is thriving again, we just had Project Resolve, there's planned Manhunts/Seasons aka lore, books are still coming out, Resurgence should launch Q1 2024 aka over the next month, Heartlands is expected for 2024, TD2 DLC (we don't know if it's a full on expansion yet) is slated for 2025 and on top of that they have TD3 in the works + a movie/series? That's a power statement to say "We're here to stay"

• adding a note here to say that no official date for TDR exists, the store used to have a tentative date of March 31st, 2024 aka Q1 - and it being approved in China usually means release is close, but nothing confirmed yet.

[broken solstice]

yeh it makes me suspicious that it could get canned at any moment

[azure lintel]

In the case of TD3 there is not even a game at the date of announcement. They were at the concept phase 😆

[random quest]

Doesn't matter, it's an announcement of building a dedicated team to take over The Division Universe with a creative director in charge of it.

[azure lintel]

TD2 has been on the market for 5 years. They could have started the developement of TD3 years ago instead of wasting so much time. But it's nothing new that Ubisoft mismanages their franchises. They never fail to kill their own games. Just look at what they did to the Rainbow Six game. They literally had a money printer with that and decided to turn the game into Fortnite and drive everyone off

[azure lintel]

It does matter. By the time they have anything to show off they many will be gone. It's always a terrible idea to announce something years in advance with nothing to show off

[random quest]

TD was a dying game universe at one point, almost abandoned.

[azure lintel]

Thanks to the terrible way of them handling this franchise. I don't know who is responsible for the management at these studios, but these people should consider looking for a new job. The Division was at one point one of their biggest franchises and they made so many bad decisions that nowadays it's nowhere near as popular as it was

The Division franchise could have been one of the biggest in the genre today if they didn't ignore it and made terrible decisions

[random quest]

Cool it down there, partner. You're just bashing now.
I'm also failing to understand how you can be so "passionate" and confused about the franchise, say how it's gonna die before TD3, and that they "should make management changes" - when in fact they have done that, I know that and even I don't follow it closely lmao

[elfin hazel]

td3 is way longer than that and wasn't even announced to be in dev

it was just heres new head of franchise after he gets off of star wars he wants to make this not he will

[azure lintel]

What are you talking about? What changes? They terribly mismanaged this franchise. I'm following this franchise since the beta of the first game...

[elfin hazel]

I fail to see how siege as much as I dislike it is anywhere near fortnite and I would think I'd know given 1k hours in siege and 3k in fort

[broken solstice]

he was basically like "we're kinda thinking about who would be on a div3 team, thats about it"

[azure lintel]

Are you seriously trying to tell me they did the right thing with their decisions regarding both games? 😂 You need a reality check

[elfin hazel]

they've made management changes and the game has been rough at times but at the end of the day they have made the right choices

[random quest]

This article says he will rather than wants

[elfin hazel]

the game being alive alone is way better than it being on life support

[random quest]

Along with the following statement in another press article:
“This announcement represents Ubisoft’s dedication to the longevity of the brand,” Ubisoft said in a note to press. “In his new role, Julian will drive the many interdependent production elements of The Division brand in a unified direction. This includes development oversight, operations, and creative vision together with the development teams around the world who are currently developing the mobile game Tom Clancy’s The Division Resurgence, Tom Clancy’s The Division Heartland, and Tom Clancy’s The Division 2.”

[azure lintel]

@random quest Sorry, but you are most definitely one of the most delusional people here. Are you a Ubisoft cheerleader that needs to attack people talking bad about the company? 😆

You seriously wanna tell us all here that Ubisoft and Ubisoft Massive did all the right things with managing both TD games in all these years? Maybe try checking out some statistics and numbers about the games

[elfin hazel]

most of the playerbase we can't track so steam numbers are always going to be lower and not the full picture by any means

[kind veldt]

They are expanding the franchise with other two games, there is more than just div 1 and 2

I could argue they failed the moment they decided to make div2 instead of keeping 1 alive for more years, still just a view of things

Too many people jump the gun on game as service and makes a sequel just one or two years later when its not meant to be like that

[azure lintel]

Yeah, but they didn't do anything with the franchise for over 5 years at this point. They left it out in the dust for too long.

[elfin hazel]

also div 1 is what 7 almost 8 years old now its player numbers are bound to be lower div2 is getting to that point player numbers are always bound to go down

[kind veldt]

How long has heartlands been in developtment?

[random quest]

My friend, I'm gonna throw that right back at you and say "Give me a source to your rant, so it becomes more than a rant"
I have no opinion whether or not it has been managed correctly since TD1 released in 2016, but I have enjoyed both games, am very happy that the franchise went from "basically dead" to "We're gonna make plenty of seasons in TD2, Project Resolve, TD2 DLC, TD3, TDR, TDH".

[azure lintel]

We still don't know when Heartlands is going to come out either

[elfin hazel]

it was announced in may 2021 so my guess would be about a few months before that maybe a year

[azure lintel]

It's been in developement hell from what I heard

[elfin hazel]

games coming out when they're deemed ready is a good thing actually

[kind veldt]

Does developing a game count as nothing?

[azure lintel]

People are expecting way too much from Heartlands. These people will be up for a rude awakening. It's a much smaller scale spin-off mostly focusing on PvP. It's not going to be a fully fetched out Division game

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

thats on them for hyping themselves up we're more than here to tell them otherwise

[kind veldt]

Never claimed any of that, you just said they havent done anything with the franchise
#td2-general-chat message

I said they have with heartlands

[azure lintel]

and don't ask me what they're trying to do with XDefiant. I wouldn't even count that as a Division game tbh

[elfin hazel]

because its not?

[kind veldt]

That got rebranded and its not a division game

[undone timber]

It ain't a division game lmao

[elfin hazel]

if updating a game since launch -1year downtime counts as nothing I have no idea how games are made or updated

[azure lintel]

Dude, it's been 5+ years and we haven't seen a single new Division game yet

Heartlands is not even guaranteed to release this year

[elfin hazel]

we don't need new games

[kind veldt]

For me thats better than having plans for a division 4 and 5 being released yearly

[elfin hazel]

div1 stood on its own for years and so is div2

[undone timber]

Division 2 is still being updated and we have a new expansion on the way

Div1 still has a player base too even now

People like the games

[kind veldt]

Indidnt want a division 2 this soon

[azure lintel]

I think the numbers speak for themselves. I get that maybe you guys still like TD2, but you guys are way in the minority with that

[elfin hazel]

what numbers?

[kind veldt]

I honestly think if you want to make a game as service you need to be able to expand it for at least 4 years

[azure lintel]

Funny thing is they were considering to shut down the TD1 servers this years. It was on their table. Meaning nobody would be able to play TD1 anymore

[elfin hazel]

the steam numbers? the ones that are not indicative of the true play number counts because most of the pc playerbase is on ubisoft connect or epic games?

they weren't and they've said as much

[kind veldt]

If you make 1 year of content and make a sequel is not a game as service meant to stand tall for ages

[undone timber]

Huh when

[azure lintel]

earlier this year

[random quest]

WONY released in march 2020
Game died down after that, covid and shizzle
New management and focus
TDR is releasing this year by one studio
TDH is releasing 2024 or 2025 by another studie
TD2 DLC 2025
TD3 2026/2027

But again, this guy is called wastingmytime2, he has only been part of the discord since december 2023 - with 100k members - and uhm, yeah, Imma go eat lunch

[undone timber]

There was literally a post an ubi guy made saying there were 0 plans to shut them down

[azure lintel]

They came forward with it. Hence the reason why the Global Events were delayed

They didn't know if the game would be still kept up

[elfin hazel]

came forward with them saying they have no plans to shut the servers down ?

[undone timber]

Global events are delayed because they didn't implement a new schedule not cuz they're shutting down the servers

[kind veldt]

Man unless you find a link right now people will think you are just speaking crazy

[undone timber]

Team is scattered rn so the issue probably still going round the circle

[azure lintel]

No, they were happy that TD1 servers are still staying up when they gave an update for the Global Events, cause everyone kept asking about them after over a month of nothing

[undone timber]

Probably busy with vanguard too

[azure lintel]

Believe it or not Ubisoft had on their table shutting down TD1 servers 2 months ago

we are lucky to still be able to play TD1 this year

[undone timber]

Where's the receipt

[random quest]

Brother are you talking about this video because that's based on a damn reddit post about speculation LMAO

[azure lintel]

No, I'm not talking about any video or reddit posts. I'm talking about information from directly within Ubisoft Massive

[elfin hazel]

the ones that say they had no plans to shut down div1?

[random quest]

Then give us a link to that, because of the two of us, only I'm supplying sources

[kind veldt]

Where is that

[azure lintel]

I don't know who said that, but I can assure you that this person was lying

TD1s fate was decided nearly 2 months ago

[random quest]

Provide a link or stop wastingmytime lmao

[undone timber]

It came from ubi lmao

[azure lintel]

we are lucky to still be able to play TD1 believe it or not

[kind veldt]

Well you could prove him wrong by just posting where said they were going to cut div1 servers

[azure lintel]

nah I'm not giving away any sources nice try though

[kind veldt]

Okay then you are posting BS

[undone timber]

💀💀💀💀💀

[random quest]

Not giving away any sources, le-fucking-mao - if it's official from ubi, then they have a post you can link.

[undone timber]

You got sent nice try though

[random quest]

By the way, no recent news regarding servers on here:
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/news-updates

[azure lintel]

I still use it and still clear legs with it 🤷‍♂️

Works the same for me as long as I have nemesis as primary

make out of it whatever you want p to you I'm not forcing you to believe it, but just know that I'm an honest person who doesn't like making stuff up or lying in general

[random quest]

Says every person in existance

[kind veldt]

Yeah and the sun exploded, trust me

[random quest]

Just wait 8 minutes

[serene elk]

What does not giving away any sources mean

[random quest]

I'll admit though, he's living up to his username

[azure lintel]

anyone could say it true, but one major indicator for my information being true is the delay of the Global Events for over a month when Global Events were up almost seemingly since years

[azure lintel]

Where you have gotten an info of said thing

[random quest]

Indicator - ah yes, so you wrote the reddit post?

[azure lintel]

Legitimacy or not etc

[undone timber]

So you work at ubi

[elfin hazel]

so something anecdotal got it

[azure lintel]

what reddit post? I'm not even active in the subreddit 😆

it's been at least a year since I even visited the division subreddit

[undone timber]

From where did you get this information then

[random quest]

He's not giving away his source (100% the video, because it's 1:1 the same speculation)

[undone timber]

Top secret NSA classified documents or some shit at this rate

[serene elk]

You either get it from Ubi or someone at Ubi who probably isn’t even breaking nda by saying “well we considered doing this”

[random quest]

Aaahh, he got the latest Descent comms somehow

[serene elk]

So if you have “sources” why not share them

[undone timber]

💀

[azure lintel]

nobody would care about them 😆

[undone timber]

Not the descent enjoyers bugging about it for ages

[azure lintel]

I might consider sending a dm to all the 3 people that like Descent

[random quest]

@undone timber This guy has been here since beta, if no-one cares about descent comms, he must be correct kapp

[elfin hazel]

its better than countdown and summit

[undone timber]

^ it's certainly less repetitive and more fun

[elfin hazel]

my hot take summit is better than countdown

[azure lintel]

was just joking incase you didn't get it. I don't have any Descent coms

[serene elk]

We found the crazy

[azure lintel]

High five

[serene elk]

Crazy number 2

[random quest]

You're just hot, and every take you have is therefore hot 😳

[azure lintel]

I cant be asked to wait 30 years for a countdown match to start

[random quest]

can't be arsed = cba, not asked.

[azure lintel]

Same shit

grammar police wee woo wee woo

[elfin hazel]

I love the all of the design put into countdown but it is just boring now I wish it could be daytime during it

[azure lintel]

jist brcause of tha iLl typ LiKe tis noew

[random quest]

No it was just in case you didn't know ^^
I actually have a love/hate to cba, because in theory it can mean - Can't be arsed AND Can be arsed

[random quest]

Don't take everything as an attack lol

[azure lintel]

I can be rased

[serene elk]

If I am doing 100 floors of the same 4 rooms over and over again without at least 7 other people making it an experience, I cba

[azure lintel]

arsed

[azure lintel]

Sorry division made me build anger issues

[undone timber]

I only play countdown for the loot realistically it's not fun

Banging soundtrack though

[random quest]

Don't worry, I understand eheh

[elfin hazel]

as limited as summits pool of rooms is theres something to it compared to countdown where it just feels dark and gray

[serene elk]

I’m pulling out full shield tank on countdown 3/4 of the time anyway

[undone timber]

Floor 100 made it worth it

Not sure if I'll commit to a full run again though unless that julmust mask comes round again

Missed last Christmas

[azure lintel]

I think one of the reason is the variety of enemies where as in countdown its always the same things

After a few runs theres only like 6-7 different things to do

[kind veldt]

and forces you do adapt to random rooms sometimes

[elfin hazel]

that too

I feel like I'm more scared of drone rooms than anything in countdown

[kind veldt]

you people do countdown more than me so prob just got burn oout

[azure lintel]

Mega burn out

[serene elk]

I’m still doing countdown 😭

[azure lintel]

In division 2 overall burn out

Why do I still play it

[serene elk]

The builds I need changed, I’m running it again

[elfin hazel]

I think I've done very few countdown games after it came to the game

[azure lintel]

If only division 1 wasnt overrun with cheaters and not as many players as td2

[elfin hazel]

breaks are good

[azure lintel]

My break is overwatch

Which doesnt help just makes it worse

[elfin hazel]

I've pretty much been on a div break for a long time now typically only playing for manhunt targets

[undone timber]

I gave overwatch 2 a shot but it got quite boring

[azure lintel]

With every update they stray far and far away from ow1

And idk if thats a good thing

[elfin hazel]

beating the its just overwatch 1.1 allegations

[azure lintel]

The game is starting to feel like a generic fps

[undone timber]

I remember it being distinctly overwatch 1.5

[azure lintel]

Ow1 was trash but the good trash

Like every character was op in their own ways

Ow2 its just 2-3 characters bawling everyone each season

I might give helldivers a shot since all the hype

[balmy plover]

is there any bug i got disconected from game few times today any info

[undone timber]

Meanwhile on xbox

[azure lintel]

Wym

[undone timber]

Helldivers is only available on PS and PC

Id play the shit out of that game though

[azure lintel]

Wait what the game isnt on xbox at all

[undone timber]

Yep

[azure lintel]

Cringe lol

I wonder why

[undone timber]

It's an exclusive iirc

[full zinc]

Come over the the dark side

[azure lintel]

Yikeis

Nah stay xbox, much better

I tossed my ps4 away never thought of getting a new one, still have my xbox x for whenever

[undone timber]

I've always been interested in getting a good PC or something but they seem pretty pricey if you want something with good specs

[elfin hazel]

they're gettin better

[azure lintel]

Ngl you can get a generally good pc around 1k ish

Above that will more likely be high end

[undone timber]

I imagine it's more a long term investment cuz you can replace all the outdated parts and all

[full zinc]

It can be. You can get some good deals if you keep an eye open on a couple sources.
Just gotta make sure all parts are compatible. It's a lot cheaper building then buying prebuilt

[small spear]

pcpartpicker.com very good resource

[azure lintel]

I spent like about 2.5k on my pc about 4 years ago and still havent updated and still run most games at ultra +90 fps

Ray tracing involved and around 60-70fps

3-4 years ago I think cant remember

Was when pandemic started and GPU prices sky rocketed

[elfin hazel]

4

[azure lintel]

Series 30s had launched

[small spear]

mine is 3k+, built about 2 years ago, runs everything like a dream still today

[azure lintel]

Bought myself a 3090 with a 12th gen cpu and gg

[azure lintel]

Yup

Ofc price may vary depending where youre from

I think the anti mining bs that they were adding to gpus is slowly lowering the prices of it

Miners were crying everywhere about it when they mentioned it lol

[undone timber]

My interest in PCs like piqued after I saw that one video of that gaming blog channel I forget the name had a guy assemble a pc

And I learnt more from the people dunking on him than the original video lmao

[elfin hazel]

the verge ?

[azure lintel]

Average pc experience

[undone timber]

That's the one

[azure lintel]

But tbh pc building community overall is amazing, people usually go extremes to help you with it

[undone timber]

They do seem really nice

[azure lintel]

Just stay away from reddit

[undone timber]

I've seen people get slammed for buying certain GPUs though lmao

[azure lintel]

Most likely due to bottlenecking

[undone timber]

Is that a pc thing

[azure lintel]

I slammed some people for buying a damn 4090 when they have like an i5 cpu

[elfin hazel]

this is trending into #off-topic-discussions territory

[full zinc]

No fun

[elfin hazel]

I HATE FUN!!

[azure lintel]

Yes you need to have even GPU/CPU, if one is lower than the other then it will drag the high end one lower to the same level as the bad one

[full zinc]

[hybrid ore]

It's true, drib glares at balloons all the time, I've seen it.

[azure lintel]

Fun? whats that

[elfin hazel]

mods pull up the no fun allowed sign image make it my pfp

[azure lintel]

Yes give us it

[random quest]

You should marry @warm minnow

[undone timber]

So better to have 2 mid range things than one high end and one dumpster fire thing

[azure lintel]

Exactly

[elfin hazel]

we're removing everything from the game but strikers and elmos because you never need anything else who needs build diversity!

[azure lintel]

PLEASE

KILL IT

Then well all go back to d1

[full zinc]

Force everyone to use foundry builds

[azure lintel]

Am I the only one that hates elmos...

[undone timber]

And then everyone hops on striker again

[azure lintel]

I dont see the obsession with it

[serene elk]

I am building sheperds

That was the set I think

[azure lintel]

d1 strikers > d2 strikers

[undone timber]

Removes the need for skill

[azure lintel]

How?

[undone timber]

Not that strikers needs skill

[azure lintel]

It just zap zap

[elfin hazel]

I wouldn't say I hate elmos I just wish I knew why it got the status it has

[undone timber]

But it just further reduces brain activity

[undone timber]

All blue meta time

[azure lintel]

When it launched dz became so cancer i quit the game for a bit

[hybrid ore]

re: elmo.
tl;dr mod slots.

[full zinc]

The mods are amazing is why

[azure lintel]

I just hate stun status

Dumb asf just helps bad players

[kind veldt]

Big magazine crit AR with great handling

[azure lintel]

Oh you cant aim? Here have something that stuns people for 20s

[serene elk]

Sounds like a pvp player issue

[hybrid ore]

it has a ludicrous amount of chc and a massive mag size.
It's basically an SMG with a range of more than 3", and an LMG that doesn't take half an hour to reload.

[kind veldt]

Its the LVOA-C of this game

[elfin hazel]

idk maybe its just me but I've never paid any attention to weapon mods on exotics

[azure lintel]

Except recoil

Lvoa had a feisty kick

[desert crystal]

Any one no why heroic in the dz feels 10 times harder that open world abd missions

[kind veldt]

lol not really

[elfin hazel]

I think thats more a thing of div1 having more recoil in general

[undone timber]

Muh lightweight m4

[kind veldt]

Cadeceus had a weird kick

[hybrid ore]

20% chc drib, 20% chc is everything.
that and 10% from the watch is halfway to max cap already.

[azure lintel]

On console all the weapons on div1 had a pretty kick

[azure lintel]

That gun was weird overall never used it lmao

[hybrid ore]

sooo many possibilities to roll WH on my gear with it on.

[azure lintel]

100%

[kind veldt]

Replayed a while ago to help a friend div1 had less kick had more spread

[sick thicket]

elmo gave low levels an option to use ars without having to go below 100% chd just to hit decent chc

[elfin hazel]

I think I have the build >>>> mods/watch mindset drilled heavily into my brain

[full zinc]

It's only 5% more chc than a regular highend... it's the chd stacked on top that makes the difference

[hybrid ore]

bleh.

to be fair my mindset is still thoroughly set in the ways of d3 and firecrest.

[serene elk]

2 million headshot damage with fully stacked strikers and FI 🫠

[hybrid ore]

which explains a lot of things actually.

[elfin hazel]

I think I've only cared about exo mods to read the descriptions on them and elmos doesnt have that!

[hybrid ore]

The worst thing about elmo? the image on the spreadsheet doesn't have a halo.

St' Elmo's engine. cmon it's so close.

[random quest]

DZ is a PvP zone, and there's modifiers to reduce damage of your weapons etc, so it is harder

[sick thicket]

heroic in the dz feels hard?

[serene elk]

Play HSD

Problem solved

[sick thicket]

dz difficulty feels like a breeze compared to open world

[desert crystal]

Yes but i have more armor in the dz than i do using a skill build in a mission

[azure lintel]

Wait someone complaining about pve in dz when you have literal rogues

I'm confusion

[random quest]

Stats are just different in there, I ran into it with an optimized HE HH Determined build and couldn't chain the kills, unlike in the open world.

[random quest]

He's not complaining, he asked why the difficulty felt harder - stat changes is the reason

[serene elk]

When I get home I am testing this

[azure lintel]

Fair

[serene elk]

I swear determined HH can chain

[azure lintel]

@desert crystal if you go to your loadout menu, theres an option to show PVP stats

[serene elk]

Are you sure you are chaining right?

[azure lintel]

It will show you how much different it is than normal stats

[desert crystal]

So go by the pvp stats when in the dz even if im doing landmarks

[azure lintel]

Well yes

You're in a pvp zone?

[sick thicket]

yeah someone was talkign about dmg modifiers in pvp this morning. I've always seen dz pve incredibly easy

[random quest]

I'm sure it can, what I ran into there with (notice, ran, like 4 weeks ago) just didn't work like in the LZ cuz of pvp stat squishing. Outside of that I have no interest in pvp in div, so haven't checked since

[azure lintel]

Just because you're fighting npc enemies doesnt mean your stats are the same as outside of dz/pvp area lol

[desert crystal]

So landmarks do count as pve then even though there pve

[azure lintel]

Yes the whole area is pvp

pvp/pve

[serene elk]

Same, I’m just interested if Resolve changed anything in PVP such that the PVE determined doesn’t work like it used to
I haven’t ran DZ in months

[sick thicket]

if you're in the dz specifically for pve id honestly use striker

[azure lintel]

Pulse resis and become a ghost

[hybrid ore]

All that work for a PvP chat and still people refuse to use it.

[desert crystal]

and not a pvp build

[random quest]

Twas pre Resolve, so more like 5 weeks ago. Damn. Time flies.

[azure lintel]

I mean tbh this chat has been ping ponging through things left and right

I doubt it will still be pvp in a few mins we'll talk about birds

[random quest]

It started with a pve based question dear ai

[sick thicket]

well assuming the pvp you run into is at a landmark, you will already be near max stacks so as long as you have roughly 4-5 blue cores on you will absolutely shred anyone

[hybrid ore]

Don't use that term Rudolph, it's weird.

[azure lintel]

[random quest]

AI?

[serene elk]

Then it should be working

[azure lintel]

C-c-c-connections jammed

[serene elk]

Signal disrupted

Signal back online

[azure lintel]

You are now marked as, rogue

[serene elk]

ECHO located nearby

[sick thicket]

you could also run a memento with ur striker build, and while in pve maintain high bonus armor

[azure lintel]

Why is isaac voicelines so more memorable in d1

I barely remember any on d2

[sick thicket]

so that if you get ran up on the chances of you dying are even more slim

[hybrid ore]

Nostalgia goggles.

[azure lintel]

Maybe yeah

[serene elk]

Because his voice lines in D1 were the bomb

[azure lintel]

Istg I can literally hear his voices in my head despite not playing the game all these years

The voices

[elfin hazel]

one day we'll have isac saying rations nearby again

[random quest]

Rivens, what term should I not use?

[hybrid ore]

The genuine answer is: ISAC sounded more humanoid in div1 and a little more robotic in div2, as he really should be.
so in the first game you probably recognised the VA from other roles, compared to in div2 where it's a little more tweaked.

[elfin hazel]

I miss a lot of the small things like that from the start of the game

[azure lintel]

Thats something I noticed too

His voice is more "formal" in a way ig

Like "transmission's Jammmmmed"

[serene elk]

I wish they added an Alex reference 😔

[azure lintel]

He really pushed that jammed in and I love it lmao

Do they use diff VAs for isaac?

in d1 and 2

[hybrid ore]

If ANNA ever does get a formal VA and not just "someone", my dream cast is Jennifer Hale, purely because I like to imagine Shep+Garrus again.

It's Brandon Keener for both, and yes his surname really is Keener.

[azure lintel]

Well thats funny

[random quest]

What term should I not use?

[azure lintel]

Wait ANNA has va?

Am I stupid or have I never noticed

[hybrid ore]

She speaks at some point but like, my guess is it's an artificial voice or just a dev.

[azure lintel]

Whaaaaaaaaaat

[serene elk]

ANNA gets 1 line during Liberty Island

[elfin hazel]

she has like 1 line at the end of WoNY

[azure lintel]

Wtf

I need to check it

[serene elk]

When you catch the Faye Lau transmission

[azure lintel]

OH THATS ANNA

[serene elk]

To Schaffer

[hybrid ore]

After a few dozen WONY runs you start to notice weird stuff.

like the secret key on Liberty' in the birds nest.

[azure lintel]

The key to keeners heart

[elfin hazel]

WoNY has my most hated lines in the entire game by far because they just make no sense

[hybrid ore]

Wait lemme guess, is it Keener turning into movie Thanos from how he was just a greedy jerk in div1?

[elfin hazel]

amherst did not just choose new york kelso!!!!!!!!!!!

I think his lines while cartoonish are the some of the best in that mission

[azure lintel]

Lol I remeber that one too

Honestly I can see that, d1 he sounded more like a calculated ghost

[hybrid ore]

If you re-watch the final echo in div1 and then go straight to WONY end it's like he just huffed the entire Spice stock from DUA.

[azure lintel]

d2 he just looks like he wants to wipe the world

[serene elk]

Tbf he had a whole year to prepare for siege, he better know how to patch himself into Diamond if he had Theo make ANNA

[elfin hazel]

along with faye saying that after CONEY ISLAND (WHICH IS MONTHS after div1 where he was actively trying to stop and kill us to kidnap the guy that COULD make another virus) that they knew keener was working on something

like why were you not trying to track this guy down before now hes clearly a huge threat????????

[hybrid ore]

I mean, spoilers and all, but the fact that the entire virus was now a false-flag or whatever kinda negates a lot of what Keener's plans were.

gosh I hate ret-cons.

[elfin hazel]

like I know theres the comms from the launch of div2 where its just keener saying he got back into NY super easy like it was nothing but you guys weren't keeping ANY tabs on him ????????

[hybrid ore]

To be fair, they also didn't check to see if Outcast Leader was actually on the boat at Roosevelt.

I guess they operate on a "they're probably an idiot" policy.

[serene elk]

It’s hilarious because we all knew she wasn’t on that fucking boat by how they were talking

[elfin hazel]

I wish faye wasn't so heavy handed in the defeatism we should just all quit foreshadowing of her going rogue

[serene elk]

“Oh we saw a woman board the boat, it must be her”

This is why Kelso is lost guys

She saw something shiny on the road and forgot her way back

[humble cargo]

She saw the dog at Haven.

all hope of the future is lost.

[hybrid ore]

I mean that is absolutely fair, it is adorable.

[humble cargo]

I love the video clip with her and Rhodes talking about the dog and its size, etc. so 4th wall breaking.

[hybrid ore]

I do agree on Faye though, but her sister did die which was her one major focus back in div1. She lost everything else and this was kinda a last straw.

[serene elk]

There was even a side mission to find her sister

[random quest]

Kelso is gonna tell us that we're living in a simulation and has been the whole outbreak, which is why the dog isn't aging 🍻

[serene elk]

Missing persons side missions were actually really fun looking back on it

[hybrid ore]

The dog isn't "not aging", it's a dwarf.

[serene elk]

We only got the 1 with the Hunter prelude thing

[hybrid ore]

they're real, and they are equally as adorable.

we actually do have more missing people missions, but they're Classified Missions.
e.g. embassy.

[random quest]

Yeah, that's what the simulation wants you to believe 👾

[elfin hazel]

kelso should just drop off a letter to tell us what she wants us to know I thinks

[hybrid ore]

Hey breadcrumbs are fun and beats more civvies being dumb.

[serene elk]

I never got these

Pay wall 😔

[hybrid ore]

"BT are the good guys" says the civvies that were at the White House when BT tried to missile strike it.

"good guys" when BT work with True Sons, who killed everyone but like 5 people at Castle.

[elfin hazel]

I wish I could find the reddit post which detailed a lot of the small details that have been lost over the years

there was so much charm that I completely forgot about

[random quest]

I can't give you that, but I can give you the reddit post about how Div1 is 'definitely' getting shut down

[elfin hazel]

bouncing up n down in joy

[hybrid ore]

Gotta love when wrong info is put out.

[random quest]

But I don't want to give away my sources

[elfin hazel]

wouldn't be division without wrong info

[elfin hazel]

going through div reddit changelog page I forgot that there was no skin slot for the longest time

and that respecing specializations was awful

damn textiles are older than I remember

[hybrid ore]

One bug that I guarantee no one else cares about but I want fixed so badly, is that the Adrestia has no recal option.

[elfin hazel]

hold on I don't remember weapon stats being vertical???????????????

[humble cargo]

what is Adrestia?

[elfin hazel]

named SR1 used to get the sniper scope for nemesis

[humble cargo]

ah

[elfin hazel]

god I'm looking through my old screenshots of div now to make sure I wasn't crazy remembering this as wrong and theres a certain nastiness to the old UI that I deeply miss

[humble cargo]

thought that was Designated hitter.

[hybrid ore]

Adrestia is another one of the same family. It has no Perfect stat, or even a unique attribute.
but with the recent buffs to MMR's, it hits like a truck (as do all SR-1's) and I've always loved it.

[humble cargo]

got yua

[elfin hazel]

the dz bag in the main inventory 😭

OH MY GOD

I forgot that gear mods ALSO had 3 bonuses

[humble cargo]

oh come on. you forgot the best part.

backpack stacking.

[elfin hazel]

I don't remember that

[hybrid ore]

Don't forget about DtE mods.

gosh I miss those.

[neon wyvern]

pfe better anyways

[elfin hazel]

I'm still surprised they haven't made their way back in some form

[hybrid ore]

My guess is that the devs are afraid of making dtooc 2.0, they've already said that they're very aware of how it's almost always the best choice and are working on fixing that.

[neon wyvern]

if only there was a simple solution

[humble cargo]

TD1 thing. you equip a pack with a more than normal stat and then equip another pack. the stats from the previous pack stayed. you would see people switch 3-4 packs and get massive amounts of ammo, dmg, etc. It worked so well Massive did it on stream a couple of times accidently. Yes, it got fixed.

[neon wyvern]

deleting it as a third attribute

[hybrid ore]

Lightly buff the other stats so it's more on-par.

[neon wyvern]

"Lightly buff"

[hybrid ore]

80% dta here we come!

[elfin hazel]

I miss a lot of the text that was on the menus

[jolly talon]

think i made a mistake with doingt the sidequests while being under level 25 😅

[elfin hazel]

oh my god I forgot that your stats weren't truncated

I wish that was an option actually

[hybrid ore]

This is going to sound weird, but you know what I miss most of all? Teams having to work together to kill stuff.
that and the OG ghost hunter puzzle.

[elfin hazel]

I miss telling a friend do not play heroic missions at this time they are such a step up from heroic control points

a thing I'm noticing with the old UI was that a lot of the text spacing is just

off

and weird

[jolly talon]

doing public events is also a good way to level up right?

[elfin hazel]

yes

[random quest]

Send a picture in #ask-td2-community of your full map could help us help you

[jolly talon]

ok @random quest

[elfin hazel]

they should bring back WoNY launch negev

[midnight salmon]

they should bring back original RPM of Ouro

[fiery cloud]

Hey Rivens, .drib

Hope Everyone's Having A Great Weekend Gaming

[jolly talon]

How is it going Sapher?

[compact wadi]

anyone had any luck finding any fix for the crashes?

[random quest]

That's like asking if anyone had any luck finding a needle in a haystack

[full zinc]

what crashes? never have them

[jolly talon]

I was looking into some fan art ( yes I am that kind of person who gets sucked in for everything and the lore xD ) but i noticed there is not a lot of LMG's used as main weapon

[full zinc]

art imitates life ig. lmg kinda bad because of suppression mechanic

[jolly talon]

Not bashing the art but I myself really enjoy LMG's and my secondary is an assault rifle

I personally really love the RPK a lot

[cloud sinew]

do we have any List of Descent talent rotation pools ?

or can we know what comes after each rotation ?

[warped sandal]

alright well my scuffed build survives the dz

i can kill rogues with decent ease

also ive noticed something with the grind in this game compared to destiny 2

if i want an exotic weapon in destiny, i have to get it with an absurd amount of resources and not from the world drop exotic engrams which you get like 3 after a month

if i want an exotic here, i just do a few activities for less than a day

[rancid sphinx]

why is danny weaver empty?

cassie is stocked

[warped sandal]

limited inventory

week restock

[cloud bane]

Bugged

[random quest]

I read somewhere that he restocked Sunday for some reason

[random quest]

Can't just compare like that. That's like comparing to Diablo 3 and legendaries, it just doesn't work like that.

[random quest]

the crashes ofcourse. kinda spooky when you think about it

[warped sandal]

see while fair

i had an infinitely worse time grinding in destiny 2 given it just inherently increasingly boring given the extreme amount of FOMO, miniscule stat grind, and the constant meaningless gameplay updates

i liked the way they did artifacts on the armor in destiny 2 when you could heavy mix and match to like boost up one stat max but you had to sacrifice not having a betteer artifact

idk how to explain it without going in depth but i just prefer grinding in division 2 wayyyy more than destiny 2 given i see tangible results

[undone timber]

I'd imagine destiny 2 exotics are significantly more powerful to compensate

[warped sandal]

Welll sadly

not every exotic is good

[random quest]

This is hella #off-topic-discussions territory btw

[warped sandal]

Yeah i realize this now lmao

should i just delete all this

[real orbit]

How do i type on ps5?

Like get the ingame chat up

[warped sandal]

down on d-pad, turn on "On-screen Keyboard" In accesibility

[real orbit]

Thx

[potent condor]

so i don't get a hello sapher and drib

how rude of you

[subtle ridge]

@potent condor hello lmfao wazupp everyone

[potent condor]

😭

[subtle ridge]

hows everyone doing and whats everyone up too

[broken solstice]

existence is a nightmare. naa just foolin, i'm content anyway

[kindred sleet]

Sitting at a job, just monitoring a system, not actually being productive

wishing I was home to try new builds, grind for exotics, etc

[subtle ridge]

ik that feeling very well what kind of build ur trying to build

[kindred sleet]

I want to get Ridgeways for my OD build

[still temple]

you have to complete the Summit project for this or, alternatively, join someone else's session and farm Summit or Countdown with chest as targeted loot and drop it for you

[random quest]

I mean, he's staring into the void monitoring a system at work

[still temple]

well, that's why remote play was invented 🙃

[random quest]

But also, why assume he doesn't know how to get ridgeways lol

[still temple]

not assuming anything, just offering a guideline; otherwise, my bad, shoot me 🙃

[real creek]

BANG BANG BANG 🔫 💥 💥 💥

[still temple]

#playdead 🙃

[real creek]

lol

[lucid hawk]

whats the best way to farm for the exotic AR St. Elmos Engine?

[real creek]

The fastest way to get an exotic from the general pool is to run countdown challenging/heroic targeting the slot the exotic is in. Elmo would be ARs and coyotes would be mask. You get countdown requisition that can be spent at a vendor to buy exotic caches too. It's all RNG so it could be 1 run or 15.

[fiery cloud]

Hey Souless, Seraphite

[versed monolith]

where do i get a unbreakable gear piece for a quest

[kindred sleet]

Assuming Ridgeways quest?

Got to grind chest pieces or Badger Tuff, get the Badger Tuff named chest Zero F's with Perfect Unbreakable

[full zinc]

Grind badger stuff in countdown. Lots of named items drop

[broken solstice]

its like almost guaranteed to drop at least one in a countdown run with badger tuff TL

[ripe garden]

is something wrong with servers or is it on my end

[ivory pebble]

Does anyone else who run countdown not see their stats at the end, or is it a visual bug on my side?

[random quest]

Nah, it ain't working - don't think I've ever seen it work tbh, even before resolve

[tidal jasper]

guys i have trouble , i got st engine on 30 lvl but i want it on 40 lvl , is this possible to make it ?

[kind veldt]

just get the blueprint and you cna reroll it for lv40

[ivory pebble]

keep it if you ever plan on making alt toons for a shd mule. you'll get another to drop

[ivory pebble]

Yea, it has been sometime now and it was working not that long ago, if memory serves me correctly. I love knowing if the build I'm running is doing good enough damage for play outside of countdown. No one else could see it, so it's not like they disabled to prevent players being hurt in the feels. lol

[random quest]

Like I legit don't recall it ever really working, so I've gotten the habit of not even trying to check

[ivory pebble]

lol

[tidal jasper]

but i bought that blueprint and i dont see that gun in a table

help...

[random quest]

@elfin hazel Guess you can ban this time lel

[ivory pebble]

It is a known issue to us but the development has not confirmed it to the best of my knowledge. I will buy the individual elmo blueprint with my level 30 toon, go to the crafting table and it won't be there. Maybe it will be addressed in the next "Project Resolve". But this will be "Resolve Project Resolve"

[kind veldt]

yeah not the first time he spammed that

[random quest]

Also gonna say the same note as last time, if that's full-time pay for dev, that's horrible

[ivory pebble]

I mean for the poor devs who were locked in the offices, etc from The Day Before, that is hitting the lottery. lol

[random quest]

profile says based in the us - I'd need at minimum double weekly as a dev in the US, at minimum

[ivory pebble]

oof.

[tidal jasper]

so i cant do anything

only drop new

right ?

[full zinc]

chances are if you are surviving in 8man scaling, the build will be fine outside of cd

[random quest]

I mean, I get regional wages and all that, but in Denmark I wouldn't full-time Dev for less than 4500 USD a month.

[full zinc]

seeing this message multiple times... definitely spam , hopfully followed by a ban

[drifting shale]

So it looks like the talent overflowing is broken

When the talent procs, the gun defaults to it's current mag capicity

[full zinc]

tbf this is the first ive heard of that being broken... also is a bad talent, which is probably why it hasnt been mentioned thus far

[drifting shale]

Yeah, bad talent is true, but it does make grinding expertise for the manic that much more annoying :P

[full zinc]

yeah there is that

with resolve they did mess with overflowing tho. every carbine7 dropped with that talent. they fixed it so talent would be random, maybe whatever they did introduced bugs. there is also something going on with manic blueprint dropping, im not sure the scenario it drops... hopfully youll get through the proficiency quick 🙏

[sweet portal]

hi @everyone any one up for descent ?

[full zinc]

#lfg-pc

pretty sure @ everyone/here doesnt work for us plebs btw..

[drifting shale]

@full zinc My best guess as to why it happens is when you switch to a weapon, you lose the +1 in the chamber now

[full zinc]

🤔 probably is linked. hopfully it gets resolved soon

[random quest]

Alright, that's it, time to log off, dad joke of the day

[drifting shale]

Oh also daily mission doesn't work

[latent bridge]

do you suffer teleports near cover since last update?

[terse jungle]

anyone can heklp me with the shield splinterer?

[stable stream]

where can i access the season pass i just bought ? and is it possible to gain weapons from the other seasons too?

[modest plaza]

Hey short question how is the different hp for example in countdown ore open world . Does it somewhere give a list . Like % when u with more people in the grp and stuff ?

[full zinc]

ESC > seasons (right side of menu) > season pass (also right side of menu) > you can review the reward track of current season here

most items from past seasons are in the general loot pool and can be farmed via target loot. there are a few items that are locked to projects/raid/incursion/dz (dz exclusives can drop from named caches also).

[hybrid ore]

You have to open the BoO (White House) Hunter Cache to be able to access it, to do that you need to hunt down the Hunters and take the 8 keys the various groups drop.
You can find guides online, just remember that most of them must be done between 21:00 and 05:00 ingame time.

[full zinc]

im not sure the scaling for 8man, but i think this is still current for 1-4man scaling per difficulty https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ-OZyQRHd6TskSbeE9tn2jMdn9eLIe9Fsm5CjD7A_EUwUKPdo_VO_ug7aOMdH3hhnw0pE8GGs_LnPl/pubhtml

[hybrid ore]

Once you have that Cache open and looted, Cassie (the gunrunner) will have extra copies to sell.
same goes for the Haven (NYC) Hunter Cache and its Named Chest.

[crude cave]

dang, i guess the textile-sourced fp caches granting all godrolls the first week was unintended, huh?
also, is he supposed to reset on mondays or is that a bug?

[full zinc]

someone correct me if this is dated

[lilac prairie]

PC

[hybrid ore]

@lilac prairie You're looking for #lfg-pc

[lilac prairie]

thx

[hexed moss]

It's becoming harder to find people in matchmaking. Heroic and legendary missions are alright but since a few weeks everytime i want to start a descent session I cannot find find anybody. I recall having more opportunities to play with other people in descent before this season released.

I get that the game is quite old now but still

[crude cave]

descent, in particular, is a lot less liked than most other modes so it'll be a fair bit harder to find people for that vs. almost anything else

or; descent is not decent, if you will.

[sick thicket]

kinda like incursions id imagine

except i imagine the pool for matchmaking is astronomically smaller for descent

[hexed moss]

@crude cave that's sad because it's a significantly more enjoyable game mode than anything they released prior for D2

[crude cave]

i think that might be the first time i've ever heard that sentiment

[hybrid ore]

Well that is mostly because the Incursion has what is likely the strongest weapon in the game as a possible reward.

the hydrox, I mean Ouro.

[sick thicket]

exactly i was more so referring to the average player you run into

but, who knows they're separate things

[hexed moss]

I mean imo, of course the descent needs some tweaks but it is a super fun game mode. Starting from scratch to get stronger is great

[hybrid ore]

A mode needs decent rewards for someone to want to play it, Countdown has tons because of how easy it is to mass farm stuff.
Summit a bit less because still farmable, but some effort is required.
Descent needs some more stuff, but I enjoy it at a base level all the same.

[sick thicket]

kind of like the incursion, if you want to get what you're meant to out of it, i'd recommend lfging

people will know what to do, what talents to prioritize. i''d imagine it would go much smoother and rewards would actually be obtainable at a decent rate

kind of like trying to get the ouroborus with matchmaking... good luck with that one

[crude cave]

i still don't have that tbh

i haven't had the bag space to even attempt the incursion since it was released lmao

[sick thicket]

it can be pretty fun really

learning the harder or more efficient strats made it really enjoyable

[crude cave]

oh, actually, speaking of bag space

is it just me or do items sourced from clan caches no longer take up inventory or stash space since the project resolve update?

i've also noticed the clan caches themselves don't take up space in your cache inventory either, but i'm not 100% on that

[real orbit]

Dose any1 know wats best to sacrifice to the rng gods because they are really hateing me rn iv got 5 exotic backpacks and none the 1 i need im going insane

[latent bridge]

many people say that dont like descent but dont say why xd. How devs can change the mode if people dont say whats the reason xd

[latent bridge]

yeah I so player saying that too. Ubi should spread these to all items to not have problems with a storage xd

[brave ginkgo]

anyone know where i can find a group to do darkhours raid?

[modest plaza]

Thx mate

[lone heron]

Is there a way to make skill builds not boring? Lol

[full zinc]

use mortar

[frosty wadi]

Hybrids, or status effect builds

[neon wyvern]

don't use skill builds🙏

[kind veldt]

use eclipse

it plays differenetly from the others

[modest plaza]

Hey me again short question I was running countdown and make 500k hits with my Elmo playing crit set and then somehow I made 2,5 millions hits with my Elmo and solod agents . Somebody have an idea what this was ??????????

[full zinc]

different buffs related to the counter measures you turned off in the beginning of the round. probably teamates buffing as well

[modest plaza]

Yeah I want to know what that buff came from

[neon wyvern]

you thought you were carrying until you became the carried

[modest plaza]

True 😂😂😂

[carmine sky]

Saw a patch someone was wearing that said earned by killing White, who's White?

[undone timber]

Wright?

[halcyon radish]

Walter?

[undone timber]

The real Heisenberg?

[lunar hare]

a named boss ig?

[carmine sky]

Oh yea, Wright sorry. Thought I read white.

Could be Walter White, didn't see the blue stuff though.

Guess he was part of the puppeteer manhunt, can you still do that or nah?

[undone timber]

Wright is a boss on Paradise lost

The incursion

[carmine sky]

Ah

[undone timber]

Kill him and you get the patch, do it without being downed as a squad and you get a nice bag trophy, do the entire incursion without being downed and you get his mask as a cosmetic

[warm minnow]

And do it without going down and using a medkit gets you a patch.

[hybrid ore]

@slow jungle You're looking for #lfg-raid-console

[opal radish]

Got mm with a hacker

[slow jungle]

Ps4

[opal radish]

Cleared manning in 12 mins

[boreal frost]

Anyone got some tips on how to farm SHD levels fast?

[still temple]

open world activities (public executions > propaganda broadcasts > supply drops in order of XP gained), Challenging/Heroic + 4 directives, if you move fast enough you can gain 12-20 levels per hour, depending on how often activities will respawn

[random quest]

One of the better places to do this is around Washington Monument, if you don't capture the control points - just don't pick up the bounties from the public executions, as they can block/remove 1-3 activities

[kind veldt]

Well that happened

[full zinc]

we got a magician here

Making shit disappear

[kind veldt]

Anyhow tip of the spear bad

[full zinc]

Is that a statement or a question

[opal radish]

[hybrid ore]

I hit my limit for "well actually" for today, can't be helped.
the attempted name change that hit the filter was enough on its own, frankly.

[kind veldt]

Statement

Still mad

[hybrid ore]

1 slur, 1 insult, and a game reference all in one.
It would've been impressive if it wasn't so horrible.

[full zinc]

Fair

[opal radish]

Yeah

[hybrid ore]

I never really tried TotS before the nerf, I heard good things but then again some people like the EB so

[opal radish]

It was definitely good

Like the best mmr set before hotshot

A set with useful 4pcs bonus and nice utility

[random quest]

I'd be so down to actually play with the spec weapons, crossbow, grenade launcher, tac-50 with tots, but it's just so meh sadly

[hybrid ore]

Hey, you don't besmirch Aces like that.

100 milllion my beloved. (yes i know, I don't care)

[random quest]

I would reckon the main reason TotS isn't that viable is because no other set directly buffs signature weapons.
Like there's no "Punch Drunk" for the Grenade Launcher

[kind veldt]

well killing the universal weapon buff and forcing on kill effects back AFTER it was changed to be on hit is just shooting yourself on the foot

[opal radish]

1 billion hotshot DMG my beloved

[kind veldt]

so you get stuck in too niche and too unreliable spec weapons set

[random quest]

yeah, also that. Always felt it kinda weird how it was next reload. Like the Tac-50 has 8 total bullets or something like that, right? 6 in the weapon, 2 extra. If you don't have the 2 extra, you can't even reload for the buff

[kind veldt]

it feels biased towards the crossbow

at the same time crossbow sucks at everything but breaking armor

[random quest]

Actually, yeah, why the hell is it for "next reload" and not just, after the kill.

And the backpack talent is just such a miss. "Let's make a set that buffs the Signature Weapons, but then have the backpack talent just buff regular weapons"

[kind veldt]

the worst part is

it buffs if you have no ammo, here the talent gives you more ammo

tried using with flamethrower and you dont get much ammo back if you use the other parts

it would have been more interesting if it worked in general as dodge city holster that you get a buff overtime whenever spec weapon is holsted

that way you could at least reliably get more out of the talent

[random quest]

What a mess. Time for an SQL query that just deletes any trace of TotS, then do the same for the code lol

[kind veldt]

i mean there were sets that had big changes and came out okay

i'm still just confused for this one, it just made things worse for no rhyme or reason that i can see

[opal radish]

Well pretty sure nothing would be organised

[random quest]

wdym?

[opal radish]

the code base nothing would be organized

[kind veldt]

i would either make a sets that buffs spec weapon based on regular weapon kills and regular weapons get buffed based on spec weapon kills, so you remove part of hte problem by making regular weapons buff spec weapons further than hte current set can

[random quest]

Have you ever searched in a word document?

[kind veldt]

or make a set that gives spec weapons damage overtime and the bigger the bonus on the spec weapons when it gets a kill the bigger the bonus to regular weapon

[opal radish]

You need to know what to search for

[random quest]

I know you're meme-bashing on them, but it would be "easy" to flush it completely from the codebase and SQL.

[opal radish]

Just delete the whole db ezy

[random quest]

[short wagon]

what is the mosquito exotic pistol good for, it’s talent is also super confusing

[random quest]

Getting exotic components

[broken solstice]

when you fire it the gun goes "look at me! look at me!"

[hybrid ore]

I mean that's about it, it's a "Tanking pistol", but even with it enemies are still gonna prioritise who they want to.
I've heard it's decent with the Aegis Gearset, which makes sense since tanking+tanking=tanking.

[opal radish]

Tanking + Tanking = distraction

[still temple]

tanking in this game is a bad joke, NPCs won't set aggro on tank never ever 😐

on the other hand, it's just me or it's happening to everyone? almost every time when there is bad weather NPCs are coming extremely slow to the activity or are going in the exact opposite direction and you have to chase them on the entire map to finish the activity

who writes those scripts anyway? 🤨

[random quest]

Joe

[dire grotto]

the sniper ghost bullets are out in force today wtf

I shot the same dude in the head like 4 times and he wouldn't take damage

[still temple]

can you send a message to Joe, please? ”hey, Joe, find another job, this one doesn't suits you” 🙃

[random quest]

Joe mama

[halcyon radish]

Hopefully they will revamp the mosquito pistol just like did on Dr home

[frosty wadi]

You mean a complete rework

And dr home wasn’t supposed to get its rework

[dire grotto]

Dr. Home still doesn't seem all that useful IMO

[frosty wadi]

All they needed to do was fix the FI bug and buff the talent but naaaah

[halcyon radish]

@frosty wadi the original version of Dr home need to pick up trophy if you remember

[frosty wadi]

Okay?

Why does that matter

That was changed

A long time ago

[short dragon]

Wasted two hours in manning zoo legendary last night. We may be low of dps but we got a nice tank meat and two of us working to get things dog. Except the team lead was in their own world and only play with their morta……what pissed me off so bad was while 3 of us running around killing things. He stood by the door frame with his morta

[hybrid ore]

I don't think I've ever seen someone shorten random words like that before.

[kind veldt]

eh... i would buff mosquito by making so when you stack the max effect on someone they get a damage debuff

[hybrid ore]

Wouldn't the obvious buff to Mozzie just be "all enemies within x amount of metres of the target focus on you"?

And remain focused for a certain amount of time, although I can already see the latter part messing with stuff.

[kind veldt]

it would be very easy to just add that mechanic from division 1 that worked, no clue why they dont do that

well mosquito has been buggy with me

[full zinc]

Decoy is best tank in the game anyways

[kind veldt]

shoot heavy until the effect proc'ed, he just went 90° to the side and shoot someone else

honestly if anything another gun like capacitor that scales with something else other than red cores could work for tanks

rip suggestion of machine pistol that would get more handling and magazine size for each blue core you had

[dire grotto]

How many Expertise levels are there?

[hybrid ore]

25 right now.

[kind veldt]

25 i think

[hybrid ore]

more are added as they are able to be reached, so with more gear+guns.

[dire grotto]

Dang that's a pretty big set of bonuses for the system. Not bad

Kinda like Warframe's Mastery Rank lol

[hybrid ore]

It's remarkably similar, which is one of the few things DE didn't steal from another game.

[dire grotto]

Does the amount of stuff you need Proficiency in keep increasing every 2 Expertise levels?

it was 100 for 1 and 2, 200 for 3 and 4
will it keep going up?

[kind veldt]

i think just a bit?

it might be in increment of 10

[dire grotto]

It's 100 because I'm at lv 4 now

[full zinc]

I think it decreases as you get to higher proficiency levels actually

[kind veldt]

i think i need around 140 at level 16

[dire grotto]

weird because I'm looking at it and lv 5 requires you to get another 200 on the circle thing

[full zinc]

There is probably a chart somewhere showing values needed. Hard to remember of the top of.my head tho

[kind veldt]

i mena it's possible i'm just remembering things wrong

[full zinc]

At a certain point it doesnt matter anyways... that point is when you're using shd gained from wony

[dire grotto]

what do you mean by that?

[fiery cloud]

Hey Rivens, Local,

[full zinc]

You have an shd watch. It accumulates scavenging points.

When you create an alt and put them through wony your watch level is shared but points are duplicated.
Can create, wony, drain and into resource donations for proficiency, delete agent, repeat

Morning Saph ☕

[fiery cloud]

Oh that reminds me I'm gonna have to run my nule character thru wony thx

[full zinc]

If I catch you on later I'll give you a boost

[fiery cloud]

Won't be till after930pm est

Or tomorrow

[dire grotto]

I'm confused at how that works.

[full zinc]

Ok

[fiery cloud]

@dire grotto it's easy. Run wony get stuff ,kill character rinse repeat as needed

[full zinc]

So like say my shd is 2000. If I ran a new agent through wony, once keener is dead and I gain a watch that 2000 shd is applied to the new agent. @2000 you would have accumulated and probably used 1200 scavenging points on your main... the new agent would have those scavenging points available instantly.
You can have 3 alts in addition to your main

[opal radish]

Hi Saph

[fiery cloud]

I have a hc going

Hey Fast hands

[opal radish]

Thank God you remember me

[mystic moat]

Hi everyone, I'm a casual returning player. Game is almost installed again. Should I just continue on my main or make a new character so I won't get cluttered with too many activities and not knowing what to do first?

[dire grotto]

Oh I see, so those new points are just automatically added to your watch when you finish WONY so you can just claim them, delete the char and then go back to your main with all the optimization mats you could ever want?

[fiery cloud]

Nope just looked at profile😱

Correct

[opal radish]

😂🤣

[full zinc]

Exactly. Many used this method to punch through proficiency levels with printer filament donations, ot using cash to buy 20 named items/weapons to donate.
Named/weapon/exotic 20 donated items per proficient.
Gear and brand sets are 100 of any category donated per proficient

[dire grotto]

Wait you can use Printer Filament to increase your Proficiency levels?

[full zinc]

Obligatory proficiency cost post incoming

The true cost of proficiency to hit expertise 25
(usage obviously lowers cost)

weapons - 4380 donated items - 65,700 shd points - 657,000 printer filament.
named/ exo - 1380 donated items - 20,700 shd - 207,000 printer filament.
brandsets - 2900 donation items - 8700 shd - 87,000 printer filament.
gear sets - 1900 donated items - 5700 shd - 57,000 printer filament.
skills/spec -no donations - 14,100 shd - 141,000 printer filament

[kind veldt]

you can donate materials

[full zinc]

Can use any materials but pf is the fastest

[kind veldt]

printer filament is the easiest to farm and has better return rate of those materials

[dire grotto]

How do I donate materials for it?

[kind veldt]

in the expertise menu there should be an option "donate materials" when you select an item

[full zinc]

Click into individual items. It will give an option to donate Mats .

[kind veldt]

when you can select the materials, just tap to donate, if you HOLD if you will donate everything

and not just of the selected material

[dire grotto]

Ohh I see

What would be the things to prioritize first with donating Filaments?

[full zinc]

I used to donate reciever components and protective fabric when they fill up

[kind veldt]

would say stuff you dont plan to use or have, such as some bad skills or exotics that are annoying to farm

[full zinc]

You need to have a big source like a watch for pf. Weapons for example would be around 109,500 mods farmed and broke dont to complete all weapons.

Its 3000pf per proficient item

[random quest]

Depends what that state of your main is, but if you barely remember anything/aren't in the end game - just go agane, enjoy

[dire grotto]

dang

[full zinc]

👆 this

[mystic moat]

I'll check it out in about 10 minutes, thanks

[dire grotto]

Okay yeah I def need a LOT. I used all of the filament I had and I only got 2 Proficiency ranks on a skill I don't plan on ever using

[short dragon]

You can also donate the gear/ weapon to level up. Any non name / exoctix gear needed 20 copy to max the proficiency

[full zinc]

20

[short dragon]

That

[full zinc]

2 per proficient rank

But gear and brand sets are 100

[short dragon]

I picked up so many items from countdown, I donate them all

[full zinc]

Same pf cost tho which is a little weird

Yeah that's the best bet for early proficiency. CD, junk, donate. Weapons are the biggest category so it's what should be first target

Note that named items dont count for the brand/weapon they are. Named and exotics have own proficiency

[short dragon]

someone told me countdown is also thr best way to level up proficiently too. So I equip the secondly / pistol and a few piece gears I need proficiency . So petty much countdown is all-in-one run that I feel I get everything out of one run

I never spent my shd for print frames

[full zinc]

It's based off kill xp. So countdown is pretty good, lots of enemy

[full zinc]

What's your current shd?

[opal radish]

511?

[short dragon]

I think I am just pass 900 recently

All my get set/ brand set expertise max, I am working on weapons

[full zinc]

Ok yeah you wouldn't have accumulated enough yet to proficient one item with watch points > pf
180 total scav. But at higher watch levels the return on time is way more efficient to wony run and use free watch.
It's like 2hrs to run wony, even at shd 1000 you would gain 200 scavenging... I dont know any activity currently that would allow someone to gain 100shd/hr

Hit like 2k-3k range and that is a lot of points for 2hrs worth of story mode

[midnight salmon]

i love this game,but i hate doing same things over and over again
what should i do?

[azure lintel]

Keep doing it over and over till you go cray

[copper shoal]

That's how it is in most games

[random quest]

do a backflip

[short dragon]

Do commendation.

the open 10 boxes one is interesting. Some missions took me time to figure out where to find 10 boxes

Or run around the map to collect comm and artifacts

[mystic moat]

To join a raid you have to search a team through discord?

I am trying to obtain the Eagle Bearer exotic

[stark heron]

There used to be that xp farm using oxi on the anderson manhunt

Stupid amount of xp on normal

[cyan bay]

Vendor doesn’t sell patches? I thought he would; did I miss something?

[stark heron]

I thought he would also

Maybe not implemented yet

[full zinc]

No method currently available*

[undone timber]

fortunately

white oak peasants

[full zinc]

Shit take me back to f10 before all the hype about it

[dire grotto]

I've got both my current sidearms on Future Perfect so I can get a couple of quick pistol kills so my chem launcher heal is juiced.
Would a TDI Kard Custom be better or a deagle since that chains easier

[pseudo lark]

what to do when your random teammate griefs you at the boss room?

[full zinc]

Put on a tank build and let them do all the work

[pseudo lark]

they go and die on the first enemy, i aint gonna give him a free pass lol.

[jolly talon]

dumb question i made it to level 30 just now , where do i get my specialisations ?

[full zinc]

Right next to the skills desk

[jolly talon]

there is nothing happening for me , maybe i did something wrong?

[carmine blaze]

Hi there, is there any reason i cannot craft a second muzzle brake 7.62? says its already crafted... cant I carft another one for another weapon?

[kind veldt]

did you complete capitol mission?

[kind veldt]

they are unlocks, if you have one then you have infinite copies

[carmine blaze]

I think i did, yeah , Ill do it again just for the ease of mind

Any difficulty thats needed?

[kind veldt]

you cant craft another weapon mod

of the same i mean

otherwise CP at lv3 and 4 drop blueprints

[carmine blaze]

Once unlocked its the same for every weapon ?

[kind veldt]

yeah, not all weapons can use all mods

some weapons can only use small scopes, others can use bigger ones

[carmine blaze]

Yes i know, picked up a military ak m , and it has 4 slots, but its seems that i dont have the 7.62 muzzle brake uncloked?

[kind veldt]

if you crafted then it should be there

[carmine blaze]

All of my CPs are level 4

[random quest]

Weapon mods in divison 2 must be crafted once from the blueprints - which are gained from side missions and control points lvl 3/4 (maybe also summit caches, but f that). They only need to be crafted once, then they're unlocked - unlike in division 1 where you needed them to drop

[carmine blaze]

Okay got it, seems that i have the muzzle brake unclocked but for 5.56 not 7.62mm

Thanks ! ❤️

[jolly talon]

No is that the requirement to unlock it?

[random quest]

Yeah, you need to finish the story and unlock world tiers

[kind veldt]

yeah

cause plot

[jolly talon]

ok this makes way more sense now , thanks 😄

[maiden pelican]

I tried listening to trance music while playing TD2 and it's like playing Payday 2.

[still temple]

you're not listening the right station, I'm doing the same thing every day and it's ok 😉

[hybrid ore]

note to self: play a swedish man screaming whilst I farm Countdown.

[kind veldt]

i do have some albuns that i slap while grinding stuff, it's funnier when it gets caught in the recording for bug reports

[random quest]

I cannot recommend ever listening to Swedes

[hazy saffron]

so is the skill mod thing implemented yet where i only need 1 copy of a type of skill mod and it just has the highest % that i've unlocked?

[quaint prairie]

can you make a memento build with strikers?

using a smg as a gun?

[real creek]

You can make any build you want.

[warped sandal]

thats the beauty of this game 😉

[quaint prairie]

good to know thanks

[random quest]

For solo legendary with strikers I run memento, then either grupo or ceska mask (can't remember which) and 4p striker.

[quaint prairie]

thanks just tryna figure out a build for it just for the memento after feels like forever grinding for it 😭

[stark heron]

Memento works with basically anything

[quaint prairie]

with it should i have all red cores or blue it is it okay to split it 3/3

red and blue

[stark heron]

Honestly, its up to you

Do you want more damage or survivability

The more armour cores you have the more bonus armour you'll get from the memento trophies

Id say have like 2 pieces at most having a blue core

[quaint prairie]

okay thanks for the advice

[stark heron]

No worries

Memento is one of those exotics you will absolutely be grateful for having

[quaint prairie]

i bet

i’m glad it finally dropped for me

[warped sandal]

I have an extremely scuffed build with ninjabike

[tender marsh]

Guys. Just leveled up to 1000 level.

🥳

[warped sandal]

huzzah

now you will only get scavenger points

[fickle moat]

Congrats!

[tender marsh]

Thank you)

[random quest]

You can finally play the game!

[tender marsh]

Hahah)

[astral jacinth]

Ninjabike IS scuffed version of Memento

[warped sandal]

essentially lmao

Im running 2 palisade, one arcabuz, 1 hana u and a fenris

[mystic moat]

Hey everyone, how can I join a raid? Do u need to find a team first because matchmaking is only for 'discovery' it says

[tender wave]

yes- you can use #lfg-raid-pc channel but due to the removal of voice channels on this server you'll likely have better luck elsewhere, like hte community server or GCRock one

[mystic moat]

Alright thanks for the tip ^^

Too bad they don't just do matchmaking for a 'real' raid too, wonder why that is?

[warm minnow]

too hard and complicated

[tropic compass]

Rip i can no longer find my favourite people in the dz

[real orbit]

Any1 know of a discord group that dose the incursion because i cant find any1 to do it with

[warm minnow]

not sure for ps but try community server

[elfin hazel]

theres #lfg-td2incursion-console which isn't the most active but its there

[real orbit]

Im in need of the ouroboros to complete my setup

Oh the pain

[random quest]

Currently wondering whether I'll max out LMG Proficiency or LMG Recal lib first, because at this point I think it's the former 💀

[stark heron]

Just realised I had a beta patch this whole time 💀

My dumbass thought pathfinder was just some normal patch

[full zinc]

now you need the best patch...
Superior Support Distinction

[stark heron]

Is that related to agent help requests

[full zinc]

Yeah, shepherd rank 25 unlocks

[stark heron]

Jesus

[full zinc]

Resets at end of season. Plenty of time

[vernal jasper]

incursion ?

[stark heron]

#lfg-td2incursion-console

Ask in there

[random quest]

16/30 LMGs proficient (Think I started at 5, if not lower) and still 9/12 in my recal lib - no change. COME ON LOOTCIFER, I BECKON YOU

[meager pewter]

Anyone did Showdown at high noon saloon recently?