td2-general-chat

[kind veldt]

accuracy how much the reticle expands after every shot

unless i got those wrong

[real creek]

Stability is your idle sway when aiming.

[kind veldt]

really?

[real creek]

Yurp.

[wise basalt]

so the bar is bugged then?

[real creek]

Eh I'd just get into the practice of looking at the stats page.

[small spear]

it's both that and what souless says

100% stability is zero sway

[real creek]

Yeah some of these things are probably a combo of effects which I don't exactly keep up on.

[wise basalt]

then that shit needs to be re-worked if its giving misleading impressions. I still kept my gray gear that u wear at the start of the game. putting that on shows the bar to be at 75% stability even tho stats reads 10% from the watch

[kind veldt]

oh okay for a second i thought iwas playing wrong for years lmao

[real creek]

I mean that's a very minor bug in the grand scheme of what needs done in this game.

It's like damage to armor doesn't work against chungas but you don't mind that right?

But I guess you could say it does work correctly against chungas in the incursion, bit confusing and misleading yeah?

[neon wyvern]

that's just the game not telling you what's considered "armor"

[kind veldt]

blue number = armor

but yeah it's a weird decision anyway

[wise basalt]

well minor bugs leads to complacency. It was admitted during the project resolve stream that they initially had 1000 bugs that then ballooned to 2000+ or something.

Never noticed dmg to armor doesn't work on chungas. Was this mentioned?

[kind veldt]

do think it should count as armor

it's old knowlodge at this point

one of hte reasons damage to health is considered pretty good in comparison

[full zinc]

Then in comes sledgehammer considering those plates armor 😂

[foggy copper]

btw good melee build possible in div2?

one swing = remove enemy armor

[kind veldt]

Nope

[full zinc]

Not really afaik. Sweet dreams can take out reds/purples iirc

[real creek]

Well fyi this isn't the place to file formal bugs, honestly idk where the proper place/site is tho.

[kind veldt]

Sweet dreams is more of a gimmicky exotic for kills with melee

[full zinc]

Only melee that kills something...

[kind veldt]

Other melee exotics are not good for damage ans more for their talents or secondary effects

So stacking lady death, claws out, bloody knuckles and etc wont be impressive against NPCs

[neon wyvern]

someone forgor to put "and armor plating" in the desc

[broken solstice]

i want an exotic with real life aim assist that targets enemies weak points

so i can get this damn ge challenge done

[foggy copper]

sad thing enemy dies before i remoe all weak points \ armor plates

[fiery cloud]

Hey Raucey

[neon wyvern]

Gotta play against outcasts me bro

[quaint comet]

I just got to kelso, and she talked about going to the federal reserve, is this a new dialogue line ?

[broken solstice]

yeah i got it done mostly with demolisher firefly. and that skill is kinda cool so i dont mind having to use it once in a while

now for the headshot kills

[neon wyvern]

Determined time

[broken solstice]

yep. cant wait for next pts/next update. i got my model 700 and ekims long stick ready to go. if they dont adjust it, thats gonna overthrow the white death. in the pts with one bullet the model 700 hit for either 4.6 mil or 6.4 mil more than the white death with the same build (cant remember exactly but it was a lot)

[neon wyvern]

I got my f2000 with dtoc and stabilize which I'll reroll to strained possibly if they fix that recal bug

[broken solstice]

nice me too. i just gotta optimize the F2000. but i think i prefer shield splinterer anyway

[neon wyvern]

shield splinterer is cooler

[ebon parrot]

But the thing is from what ive seen u cant improve d50/Liberty horizontal recoil

[neon wyvern]

then this lame gray brick

[glass pasture]

I have a problem. I got all 12 hunter masks that come with the 8 ivory keys but i only have 7 keys

[timber hatch]

Pretty much. Most weapons don't have much, so it's not a huge problem, but it's kind of dumb you can have 0 vertical recoil but can't do anything about horizontal

[glass pasture]

got the key, it spawned in front of the chest after logging in again

[timid siren]

Can I get some help to hunt the new York hunters?

[merry iris]

just did the recruiter mission, is me or was it really annoying and kind of lame?

[glass pasture]

Is it me or is the last ivory key bugged? Can't salute the graves

[jovial bridge]

does the dodge city holster shot count as a headshot? like could i shoot somebody then get a headshot with a MMR?

[glass pasture]

I have the control point and activated the thing with the screen

[covert sphinx]

has ubisoft said anything about fixing the damage numbers bug in countdown?

like where sometimes it'll just show 0 damage and kills and such

[full zinc]

i dont think so.. you can keep an eye on stuff they are planning, at least to a limited degree here https://trello.com/b/F2RU9ia9/the-division-2-known-issues

[storm cove]

Welcome to D2 legendary when ppl get shot and leave lol,take that to fortnite wit all the kids play

[forest panther]

is the garage stash mission required for the manhunt glitched out or something? i can't find it

[serene elk]

quest giver is in a building basement somewhere

[vale otter]

man how has Division not fixed the appearance mod glitch? My gear keeps randomly swapping appearances

[modern cliff]

would anyone know the best way to go about farming blue gear?

im looking for a specific look on one of the blue versions of a mask

[verbal flower]

Hello, I wanted to know what is the fastest way to raise a specialization from 0, in this case, gunner.

[vale otter]

@modern cliff @verbal flower #ask-td2-community For the blue gear, just make a new character and start from scratch farming all the gear from the beginning. And for raising Gunner Specialization, Run hard or challenging difficulty and gun your enemies down . Use your SHD Watch to farm Printer filament and donate all that to the expertise table

[verbal flower]

Ok, thank you very much for the information.

[forest panther]

thanks, appreciate it

[snow ibex]

Can PC and Xbox players play together ? Or no I’m guessing ..

[neon wyvern]

[snow ibex]

Damn that’s brutal, has there been any news ever for cross play ? Or is that something that would be in division 3?

[neon wyvern]

Games foundation isn't built on it probably

[snow ibex]

Makes me sad, I’ve also heard the game is super reliant on playing with friends so if I cantplay with my friends I probably just won’t get it I guess

[vivid summit]

targetted loot broken again?

[sterile ferry]

Again? Was it broken before?

[wanton plume]

Nice...

Servers down?

[elfin hazel]

shouldn't be

[wanton plume]

I was thrown out. It's alright now.

[oak prawn]

when does this season end?

[fair lake]

6 February

[stark heron]

Fucking hell my exotic luck lately

I got coyotes mask yesterday finally, and just pulled a scorpio from a summit exotic cache

[manic grail]

Hey there i know its division chat but i got a question for destiny 2 i bought a skin for my titan its universal ornament but its not showing on any if my gear i closed the app and opend it again and still not there

[tender wave]

You can play 90% of the content solo, and the other bits (countdown, raids, incursion) you can find random groups through in-game matchmaking or discord

[tough terrace]

So i have done White Oak dungeon 3 times in Invaded version, but it still keeps showing that it is Invaded and I am unable to do some other dungeons

What is needed to do?

[grizzled sorrel]

Can anybody suggest me a Regulas build on #td2-build-advice

[formal helm]

isit just me or are castle settlement guards much better equipped than other civvy militia?

[glossy rivet]

how to fix skill not able to deploy

ruinned two incursion run already

[sterile ferry]

castle NPCs are meant to be defected true sons i believe

[stark heron]

Ig captain lewis' men

[glass pasture]

Can anyone help me. I wanna get my final hunter mask/key but after activating the screen i can not salute the graves. Nothing works and i've been trying to get the static to appear when saluting since yesterdag morning +-30 hours

restarted game for the 100th time and now the elevator is closed and can't open it

[tender wave]

Use 'toggle mission mode' from the mission options to switch between different versions of it. I think all 4 possible variants (regular, invaded, Lau and Recruiter) all have black tusk enemies.

[magic atlas]

@manic grail make sure the gear is legendary first and not exotic

[placid citrus]

whats the first gear to optimise and respec? i have umbra set rn but it doesnt do alot of dps compared to other players striker builds

[halcyon radish]

build different, can't change of that

[tough terrace]

thx, this worked

[obsidian bone]

save ur optimise mats for a solid build that u'll use a lot
Also to save more, farm your gear mainly in countdown with targeted loot, for ex you can drop armor with maxroll weapon damage % or another attribute (for ex crit chance or crit dmg) then you respec one other attribute with a value max that u extracted before, and then there's only 1 stat to optimise.

[placid citrus]

i see that suggestion alot but then theres another view that says it becomes boring to just grind a farm those activities.
i prefer playing exploration with groups but they mostly have heroic on and im just ticling enemies while everyone else melts them

[glass pasture]

Can anyone help me out. I gotta do the last hunter but i am not getting emp effect on me when saluting the graves

If anyone hasn't done it can we do it on your map and see if that works

I need the shield spinterer

[worn imp]

are you doing it at night?

[glass pasture]

yes

every night for the last 30 hours

[worn imp]

omg... I hope you figure it out buddy

[glass pasture]

The saluting simply doesn't do anything

doing it the same way as i used to do on console

I recently switched to pc

[thorny raft]

how do u get st elmos engine?

just target loot assault rifles?

[tender wave]

Yes

[thorny raft]

ok buddy

[inner harness]

Good luck

[thorny raft]

ty i am trying to get coyote mask and st elmo lol

[inner harness]

Coyotes mask is in jefferson trade centre

[broken solstice]

i remember my first coyotes mask. it took forever to get my first one (this is before countdown so i couldnt just buy exotic caches til it dropped). the exotic you want seems like it will never drop for you, until it does. and then you cant stop getting that same exotic all the time after that. now I have one with each of my four characters. but ive gotten rid of dozens of coyotes masks i dont need anymore.

[inner harness]

I get them lecel 30 for ny runs

[broken solstice]

nice

[inner harness]

Level 30 ouro and stuff

Did it last night

[broken solstice]

is that useful beyond level 30-32?

[inner harness]

Yes because of scaling

[thorny raft]

im returning after quitting the game on launch. there are so many exotics now

the game is so much etter

[inner harness]

It scales you to 39

[broken solstice]

ohh really. good to know

cuz i have a couple level 30 exotics and i remember they seemed to lose out to really crappy weapons that were just at levels beyond like 30-32.

[inner harness]

Run it in group

[broken solstice]

ohhhh good fkin point\

thanks

[inner harness]

Scales you up

That's how ppl do like 1hr ny runs for material

[broken solstice]

yeah i usually do the beginning of wony myself just to get the tedious stuff out of the way before i get help with the main missions

[sterile ferry]

stats are boosted to the level of highest player in the party minus one

[broken solstice]

and leveling up is so fast by the time im ready to get down to the main missions im at least lvl 34-35

[inner harness]

Normally I'm 39 by the end which sucks

[broken solstice]

yeah kinda annoying if you have to do random stuff for that xp to get you to 40

[pliant sentinel]

gotta do that one where u gotta rescue the guy from the red gas

[inner harness]

I never do them which helps

[broken solstice]

yea i dont do that one. dont remember it at all

[sterile ferry]

if you have a lvl 40 player with you from the beginning you'll be 40 a bit before finishing all bosses

[neon wyvern]

I always end up at level 38 when solo

[inner harness]

Plus I'm embarrassingly low level since I just do dh

4.3k 😔

[neon wyvern]

Gotta spam anything that isn't CPS to get to 40

[tulip moon]

Wish we could optimize mods.

9,9% roll is killing me.

[inner harness]

Bro my friend has 240 days played (6k hrs) and only level 7.1k

[broken solstice]

shd level means nothing rly if you're above 1000 anyway. i dont use someones shd level as a litmus test if theyre above 1000

[sterile ferry]

wish lvl 30 players could optimize shit

[inner harness]

I just want more materials from ny runs

[neon wyvern]

2000 shd is gonna be the real max level

[inner harness]

Max hp next season

[broken solstice]

yeah. im a little under 5000 and the shd points i get still gets used up super quick

[neon wyvern]

How

What are you doing with 5200 scavenging points

[broken solstice]

ive been using it for proficiency

on exotics and skills and a couple named itemss

[inner harness]

Personally 1000+ on field recon and shd calibration and the remaining 2.5k on materials

[neon wyvern]

If only xp grinding was fun

[inner harness]

I manually grinded expertise so I'm good on that

[broken solstice]

nice

[inner harness]

I'm gonna do it when GB is out

[neon wyvern]

guardians is fun

[inner harness]

Like 2k levels in the week

[broken solstice]

guardians is more fun than i remember

[inner harness]

I did guardians last night it got maxed in like 2hrs

[neon wyvern]

Same but 2 days ago

[inner harness]

Gb I'm going to 6k

[broken solstice]

cant wait to see how ouroborus performs with the gb buff.

with all that extra rpm and range its gonna be wild

[inner harness]

Lag time

[neon wyvern]

only thing I'm curious about is if there's a fire rate cap

And if umbra striker ouro with gb will reach it

[broken solstice]

hmm there gotta be a limit right? the game can only calculate things so fast

or itll just get buggy and not count a lot of your bullets

[inner harness]

It lags the game like crazy

[shy musk]

need lmb outfit

😭.

[pliant sentinel]

for a blue striker build is the crit dmg more impt or fox prayers better

[broken solstice]

i use more crit. but the difference isnt all that much

[lapis junco]

blue striker?

[neon wyvern]

Fenris is better then ceska when blue cores

[pliant sentinel]

yeah for flawless incursion

[pliant sentinel]

sokolov it is

[neon wyvern]

Idk if it's actually better at 2 blues but I know it's better at 3

[azure lintel]

Whatsup peoples!

hows everyone doing! anyone getting anymore good contaiminated loot

[broken solstice]

good whatever time of day it is for you

[frozen meadow]

hi

[midnight salmon]

eevee👋

[small spear]

benko 👋

[serene remnant]

Hey Guys, I am Just not lucky to find Eagle Bearer in DZ. Is there someone who was it and want to farm ARs with me? If it drops for you, you might share it?

[broken solstice]

try lfg xbox if there is one. im pretty sure there is. might get better results

[white hazel]

Am I wrong in thinking that D2 flame turret is a lot worse than D1 flame turret?

not sure about dps but for crowd control is seems very bad :D

[sterile ferry]

its literally handicapped

[kind veldt]

well D1 was 360 tha that would auto fire at people

D2 is limited in range and manually on/off because it owuld have been too OP

[opal radish]

Yeah same with the shock turent

The shock animation was funny it would NPCs make do sliding bow

[white hazel]

so what's the go-to way for crowd controlling

in D2

[opal radish]

Eclipse with creeping death

[kind veldt]

hard stop enemies use foam

damage and stop enemies, use fire

[small spear]

foam and EMP sticky

[kind veldt]

fire and forget there is blinder firefly

[white hazel]

oh yeah I just need something simple, will try the firefly next

I'm literally just doing the campaign right now :D

[delicate citrus]

Wait does matchmaking work on normal mode raids

[sterile ferry]

no

[kind veldt]

nope

[opal radish]

No

[midnight salmon]

no

[white hazel]

no

[opal radish]

We got 5 need 11 no more for 5.11

[grizzled heron]

Normal is the way to go

[grizzled heron]

Best gearset in the game

[delicate citrus]

?

[grizzled heron]

Doing the raids on normal is best

[delicate citrus]

My brother well cannot do a normal dark hours and we'll I was asking if matchmaking worked

[tender wave]

not ingame matchmaking no, but the PS gamefinding thing works I believe

...that might be xbox actually

[white hazel]

Are all cosmetics account wide?

[tender wave]

yes

[white hazel]

sick

[wispy jay]

does anyone here on xbox have the nemesis yet

[daring turtle]

Is there a way to get skill points back? I spent all my skill points on unlocking all the gadgets that I don't use, not realizing that specialization had skill point options

[small spear]

spec points are resettable yes

[full zinc]

specialization use different points for unlocking than skills, level spec when its equipped by running invaded stuff and shd leveling

[daring turtle]

Sorry I think I misphrased that. I meant like getting back the skill points that you gained from shd caches. Because I used them all on gadgets and it seems like specializations skill tree uses the same

[small spear]

eventually you'll be able to unlock every skill, so i wouldn't mind it too much

spec skill tree uses different points that you get by levelling, and is resettable

[daring turtle]

Ok awesome! Thank you for your time

[white hazel]

What are the "reconfigure" blueprints for exoctic items?

[wraith bramble]

To make people waste all their exotic components.
Lets you reroll the attributes.

[white hazel]

oh, makes sense

"waste" you mean it's a bad way to spend those resources? :D

[small spear]

no, it's a good way, but it's just a very costly sink because it's completely random what attribute you'll get

[white hazel]

right right, well, thanks guys^^

[tender wave]

originally it was the only use for those resources, these days we have something a bit more useful to sink them into

[keen lily]

Today one player accused me that i was glitching 🥲 I don't even know what he is talking about (That's what everyone would say right, but i'm for real)

Is there any 'known' glitch or so?

[tender wave]

prob just lag

[hybrid ore]

@lofty plover If you want to use other languages, please stick to anything with "LFG" or "clan" in the name, Thanks.

[lofty plover]

ok! i'll remember

[small spear]

any specifics?

[keen lily]

I have really no idea

[small spear]

no choice but to disregard

could just be lack of knowledge on their part

[keen lily]

I asked him but he left the group lol 🥲

Nah he was something like SHD 17k

[small spear]

once there was a dude who asked how i kept dying and coming back in a CP fight

i just teleported to safe house then teleported back

and he left lol

[hybrid ore]

Bino here forgetting about the NPC reviver I see.

[small spear]

it was so early in the fight they're not there yet

[keen lily]

lol 😛

[hybrid ore]

I like to think they kept running over to heal you but you would TP every time.

[small spear]

tbf, i don't want to rely on the npc to revive me because status effects keep messing them up

since it's a group, might as well just tp

if it's the groupmate trying to revive me i would've stayed but those times i didn't notice them running over

[hybrid ore]

Regarding the glitch though: it kinda sounds a bit like desync to me.
Which is very easy to mistake as intentionally glitching movement.

[keen lily]

Most likely yeah

[hybrid ore]

I've been accused of cheating more than once, but it's just my 500 ping.

(Australian internet, you get used to it)

[small spear]

i've been accused of cheating in descent lately, people don't know you can make wacky builds in there

[subtle kestrel]

Hey guys so I’m new to the game I just beat the warlord dlc but I feel weak compared to the box and iv been trying to improve my gear but I’m having a hard time finding where to start and gears/weapons are 10/10

[timber hatch]

You doing pesti ticks or something?

[tired granite]

cant toggle manning zoo mission mode... relogged and pressing G to toggle mission mode and it aint changing

[small spear]

no, just intimidate and headshotting

enemies sub loop 31 are so squishy they can be one-tapped with a magnum

[timber hatch]

Check out the pinned spreadsheet in the build advice channel. Lots of info in there, including a bunch of build guides

[raw spruce]

hey guys, is it normal that i cant find a specific piece in "targeted loot"?

I am looking for chests, but i cant find it on map anywehere

[frosty wadi]

Yes thats normal

[timber hatch]

Make sure you check both DC and NYC, but at this point there are more options than locations, so it's possible chests aren't active today

[frosty wadi]

Thats where a mode like countdown and summit are for if they aren’t in the world

[timber hatch]

Which is a big advantage of summit and countdown since you can select your choice if targeted loot

[raw spruce]

ah cool, ty!

[stark heron]

Ah hell nah

I decide to hop into the dz for the first time

Cant even extract without some rogue MMR player one shotting my ass

[fickle stirrup]

Hey guys, I really want that echo in the White House bunker

Because I don’t want to start the game over just to get that one echo

[tired granite]

the game hates me... game wants me to redo manning zoo in story mode

[stark heron]

F

[tired canyon]

Where can I report a bug

[tired granite]

yooo the guardian league is fun

firing lazer beams

[fickle stirrup]

Anyone out there who haven’t done the presidential bunker mission?

[stark heron]

Agreed

Guardians and Reanimated are my two favourite seasonal events tbh

The good type of chaotic

[small spear]

reanimated is my only favorite one tbh

[neon wyvern]

get off hhf tbh

[full zinc]

Hollywood, reanimated, golden bullet ftw!

[small spear]

never

let me enjoy my only other non-binocs build

[neon wyvern]

elmo:

[pure rock]

des fr ici ?

[neon wyvern]

no 🇫🇷

[tulip loom]

is anyone lookin to get the division 2

[stark heron]

huh

[tulip loom]

that was clear

[stark heron]

Better question is who the hell is chatting in here if they dont own the division 2

[clever blade]

probably you

[stark heron]

I actually own td2 lol

[clever blade]

I dont know man

that's exactly what someone that doesn't own the game would say

[stark heron]

Im shd level 221

[clever blade]

Sounds very suspicious

[stark heron]

Says the guy who believes the eclipse virus wasn't a bad thing

[clever blade]

Never said that

[stark heron]

Your name says otherwise

[clever blade]

My name implies that Keener was right

and did nothing wrong

[stark heron]

Depends on perspective

[clever blade]

think about it, he proved the corruption of the government and homeland

Did he go about it in a weird way? Yes

[stark heron]

Ok fair enough

[clever blade]

But at least he was straight forward about it and didn't "hide" in plain site like some people

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stark heron]

Lau lmao

[clever blade]

Not just Lau

pretty much everyone we've ever come into contact with lmao

[stark heron]

Johnson also I guess

[clever blade]

and every single manhunt target

[tropic pilot]

Just started playing again for memes we got big hopes for feburary or is it gonna be nothing

[full zinc]

itll shake stuff up for sure. some positives for reduced costs and damage buffs

[tropic pilot]

Surely a huge overhaul would translate to some new things to keep it interesting at least

[full zinc]

quite a few weapons will be getting damage increased to make them competitive. youll be able to reconfig all exotic weapons for prefered 3rd attribute. some brands are getting buff to some of the brand bonuses

[tropic pilot]

Ahh ok, I'm just running some random stuff right now I don't even think I have a standard build just threw some random set bonuses together

From what I can tell I got the chatterbox and stopped playing

[full zinc]

check out #td2-build-advice pins 📌 there is a spreadsheet with a ton of proven builds . its updated frequently

each build has a link @ end of line that opens a detailed breakdown

[tropic pilot]

I'll have to do that, has anything changed in like the past year or so lol

Anything significant

[wise basalt]

this guardian event is a dumpster fire wrapped in clusterfack. It's the antithesis of what fun should be in video game, such a dumb grind for no payoff

[tropic pilot]

I haven't even seent hat yet, just did 2 pentagon missions

[full zinc]

yeah there been some good things released the past few seasons. striker got a buff and is top dps. st elmo exotic ar and ouroboros exotic smg are 2 good weapon additions. incursion and descent game modes released. its worth looking up the patch notes to get a full picture

[tropic pilot]

Yeah I'll have to do that no idea what any of those are

Don't even know what incursions are

Also finding groups seems to be rough

[full zinc]

yeah it can be, event just started so matchmaking pool is divided atm.
incursion is just a mini 4man raid . ouroboros is locked behind it but is currently the highest dps weapon

[tropic pilot]

Oh I have to do warlords, well there goes that

What other options do I have without dropping $50 on some outdated dlc

[full zinc]

it goes on sale frequently. youll be able to find it for around 8$ soon enough

base game is about 50% of the content so warlords is kinda vital

[tropic pilot]

Ahh ok I'll keep an eye for that, I'm sure it's worth the value I just can't get past full price dlc for something 4 years old

[normal quarry]

can I share my video on this channel? or where can I share it?

[full zinc]

#ask-td2-community but dont post it if its a youtube link to your own channel. mods frown on self promotion. uploads to channel are ok though

[normal quarry]

imm just sharing my video link. is it right?

[kind veldt]

you might wanna give more context to what you are trying to share

[tropic pilot]

Where's a good place to start with warlords ? Just find a build and look for the items?

[frosty wadi]

Don’t worry about builds until after warlords

[tropic pilot]

Fair enough

Thank you

[tawny pike]

yo guys i just realized something
the hyena symbol actually means something
it's a v with an x through it
v for victory
no victory

their propaganda focuses on how everything is fucked so you might as well let loose. the symbol is a statement on their vision for the future: or rather, the lack of one

[frosty wadi]

I like how you figured that out but not the fact that they literally call themselves hyenas and constantly pick at scraps and their own

[tawny pike]

that's just a given

[ivory pebble]

Is there a pinned message with a link about how to PROPERLY run countdown? Say a helpful guide for those who immediately run to extraction and pop the flare, those who use striker drones, assault turrets, use hacks to cheat their way through with the double barrel/sawed off shotgun with full auto, etc and so on. It would be great if there was a section in the Ubisoft official Division 2 Discord forum entitled "How to run (fill in the blank) to make it easy for you and others" Add Countdown, Descent, Iron Horse, Dark Hours and Summit. Guides on how to do each phase, good gear and so on. Seems like people hear "you can get good loot in Countdown" and that is all they know.

[azure lintel]

Hello World

[cunning forum]

go with the team, if you can never do the VIP task, use a high damage build, set targeted loot, pick people up, use pfe mods

[ivory pebble]

THIS! There still should be an official folder with how to videos, imo. I know sometimes starting out you feel comfortable behind a structure and just sending out drones, etc but when it comes to squad stuff, you have to think about everyone. I've just started running CD heavily since they KINDA fixed it and it has been... interesting. lol

[maiden belfry]

They're saying they're gonna prevent rogue players from switching items during rogue status in non-invaded DZ?

[kind veldt]

yeah cant insta switch loudouts

[maiden belfry]

I wonder if this will persuade all rogue players to play invaded only or something

[neon wyvern]

Rogues already chill in invaded because no spawn turrets

[maiden belfry]

They will remove expertise in Conflict, that's a welcomed change, I never thought they'll do it

[neon wyvern]

they temove watch too

[maiden belfry]

Are those changes live already or is it still pending

[lime valley]

anyone have any idea what skull is on the badlands mask?

[frosty wadi]

Probably some kinda ape

They picked the worst possible animal skull whatever it is

[azure lintel]

Is the nemesis rng?

Playing on heroic

[tranquil drum]

Anyone wanna play

[lime valley]

its definitely ape ish which is why im confused lol

[frosty wadi]

It’s pretty damn ugly

Sometimes I wonder if the devs are intentionally making ugly cosmetics

[lime valley]

i think a cow or something would fit the badlands name just as well

[frosty wadi]

Way too small for that

No the right shape either

[lime valley]

i like it though, it looks really good with the Bastion outfir

[frosty wadi]

Eh

It would be significantly better if it was just a different skull

[lime valley]

agreed

[small spear]

if you haven't done the project, you probably don't have the blueprint which means it won't drop for you

but you can co-op with someone who does already have one, it would drop for them, and ask them to drop for you

[serene plinth]

Anyone know the possible location of the snitch?

[ebon parrot]

oh shi i didnt realize memento long term buff was like 30% WD and 3% armor regen for 5 mins

[fluid meadow]

Missed another crucial buff too

30% skill efficiency

[ebon parrot]

does that impact repair skills or not?

[neon wyvern]

Yes

Every skill in the game is buffed in some way by skill efficiency

[ebon parrot]

this shit is so broken because if the 5 mins are about to end u just need to collect 1 torphy to maintain all the stacks for another 5 mins

[neon wyvern]

yea it's very powerful especially solo

[ebon parrot]

i'm a full tank player and my liberty pistol is dealing 2-4 million per hit gawd damn

[frosty wadi]

Honestly the only reason I don’t use memento is I don’t like being put on a timer for buffs, as well, if you die, you just lose a massive chunk of ability

[neon wyvern]

5 mins is a ton of time to collect one trophy

[frosty wadi]

Its more of a personal issue thing not me hating on the exotic

[ebon parrot]

i run it with a D&H chest with intimidate, maybe a headhunter would also be cool

[neon wyvern]

Headhunter is optimal for pistol builds

intimidate is for dps stuff

[ebon parrot]

yeah i have 3 versions of the same build but one with crit and other with headshot damage, but all of them tank builds

[bright crane]

Chatterbox components - got loaded canister & creative magazine - is modified mods just found in an open world box?

[fringe nymph]

hello, new player here. having a good time so far

[broken solstice]

federal triangle only. oh crap it might be judiciary square now im not sure

[broken solstice]

ok nevermind its only in judiciary square. i had em confused

[bright crane]

Oh no kidding. It IS region locked. 😢 rip.

[covert sphinx]

is it ever really worth it to go firewall over gunner for striker shield?

[hybrid ore]

Striker shield is a very good damage buff, Gunner is good for the Armour on Kill though.

[covert sphinx]

i feel like i notice that a lot more solo than i do in a group tho. and i'm mostly farming countdown recently

[hybrid ore]

In groups it's hard to reliably tell how well you're doing, because you have up to 3 other teammates doing things too.

Div2 also came out in 2019, WONY in 2020. People are well ahead of you due to the sheer amount of hours put in alone.

[covert sphinx]

it is, but with things like heroic countdown i feel like i either have full shields or no shields, nothing in between

full armor or no armor, i mean

[hybrid ore]

8 players means that you could reliably enter with a fully subpar build and still win it.
so many factors with 8 players.
plus Countdown also has bonuses in place from the terminals near the Hunters, confusing even matters even more.

[covert sphinx]

that's true. i think i'm gonna give firewall a try and see how it feels then, i think the 10% ammo regen every minute might honestly be more of a nuisance to lose than the armor on kill

at least on ouro

[small spear]

gunner is very comfy for that yes but 11% per enemy is a very strong buff

[fast lynx]

so if have are shaking sickness and can't do the last mission i new york what do i do then

[full zinc]

Skill efficiency is % in every skill bucket.
Skill damage, skill repair, haste, status effects, skill duration, skill health (buffs shield strength)

[full zinc]

Call for backup and get an assist

[fast lynx]

i have done that for 3 days now no one joins

[hybrid ore]

It may take a while, but ask for an assist down in #lfg-pc and yeah, keep calling for backup.

[fast lynx]

thx

[limber coyote]

if you still need a hand later when im back I can give you a hand

[fast lynx]

thx i will remember that i just need are break for are moment the shaking is really bad atm

[limber coyote]

Yeah no worries, I'll be out a few hours. Helping a friend move in exhange for a bad back and a pizza 😆

[fast lynx]

sounds great have fun then 🙂

[limber coyote]

Ty! Add me in-game when your back on, TheAMA4121 - Be easier to arrange group later.

[fast lynx]

im going to do that thx

[nocturne vessel]

hiya

[glass mantle]

do you have also Delta-01?

[nocturne vessel]

nope

[pliant sentinel]

nothing like a cold soda on a rainy day

[nocturne vessel]

i need help with heroic summit

[somber hedge]

Sacrum Imperium is an amazing weapon right? That's why i already got 3 of them at shd 45, right? :/

[nocturne vessel]

yea its good

if used properly

[sterile ferry]

hehe

[halcyon radish]

it's solid exotic component

[azure lintel]

welcome!!

[fluid meadow]

Even at that

Still horrible

It's a G28 ffs

[nocturne vessel]

is scorpio good

[pliant sentinel]

very

[nocturne vessel]

thanks

[modest lintel]

🙂

[flint cobalt]

Can I change 3rd attribute or all exotics or is it just certain ones?

[modest lintel]

conor magregor got no ring, no fight

[flint cobalt]

You'll do nuttin' 🥜

[knotty quail]

It will get introduced in one of the future updates

Unless it's in already

[flint cobalt]

Thank you Random

[hybrid ore]

It's being added in with Project Resolve, at least reportedly.

We still have yet to get the second PTS, so

[flint cobalt]

What's the update before Project Resolve?

Haven't been on lately & want to grind

[knotty quail]

Kinda wanna try my Chameleon again with dttooc

[hybrid ore]

No official name, but since we had an update a few days ago, it seems likely they'll be another to remove the Apparel Event.

[flint cobalt]

Chameleon DTTOC would be sick

[knotty quail]

But I think Elmo spoiled me too much

[flint cobalt]

There was an update a few days ago?

Damn I didn't see that

[hybrid ore]

Yep, 4-ish gigabytes.

[flint cobalt]

What was included does anyone know?

[hybrid ore]

#patch-notes enjoy!

[flint cobalt]

Oh, it's bug fixes..

[modest lintel]

u should say "ty" mcgregor

[hybrid ore]

Just stop.

[modest lintel]

im being nice

[flint cobalt]

I like it Wandering

[hybrid ore]

No.
@fiery cloud hey saph

[fair lake]

The apparel event rerun wasn't planned, right?
Still good - some of my mates missed it. And the clothes is nice

[flint cobalt]

Ty wandering

Just wasn't what I was expecting that's all

[hybrid ore]

It's all repeated, except for maybe a few dye's.

I was on 34 caches completed when it started.

[modest lintel]

"ty" to rivens not me!

[flint cobalt]

Anyone know what is in the next update or when it is?

[hybrid ore]

The only reason we know what's in Project Resolve is because there's PTS's for it. MSV don't like telling us too much about upcoming details.

Remember that the first trailer for WONY only dropped 2 months before it did.

[kind veldt]

#news-and-announcements message

[knotty ember]

Hi^^

[flint cobalt]

So project resolve is the next update?

[kind veldt]

well they did say february 6 is the next season

it's part of the next update that is a regular new season

[knotty ember]

Where should i ask for a raid group?

[hybrid ore]

#lfg-raid-console.

[knotty ember]

Thx

[hybrid ore]

Division, noted for its delays in update launches.

[flint cobalt]

Ah nice I didn't hear about that, only heard about the project resolve

[hybrid ore]

I love the game, but yeah we do not have a reliable timetable.

I mean going by old ones, we should be on what, Season 6 of y5 by now?

[flint cobalt]

Seems like it

[hybrid ore]

Season 4 was meant to be the DLC, but now 3 is in feb/march.

And the DLC is in 2025, as of now.

[kind veldt]

this is using teh new model that pushes season to be longer, cant comment if they say it will or not happen just passing the official information we have

[somber hedge]

6 exotic caches, 4 sacrum imperium. End me. ;_;

[kind veldt]

man i really hope part 2 of the resolve looks at that thing

[hybrid ore]

I know it's not going to be included, but I would like a proper look to be taken at the Skills. A lot of them are fairly useless outside of niche situations, and the ones that are "good" are just overused.

[broken solstice]

i just found out yesterday that the demolisher firefly applies a status effect (dont know which one, maybe bleed). i had vile mask on and it was ticking pretty good when I hit weakpoints with it

[flint cobalt]

Your firefly actually works? I can't even throw it without it blowing up randomly

[hybrid ore]

I like to think that's a comment on Fox ruining the series.

[broken solstice]

it does that a lot. but with 6 skill tiers its much more reliable

[flint cobalt]

I shouldn't need 6 skill tiers to use a skill. Needs to be changed

[broken solstice]

yeap

[hybrid ore]

You don't need any Skill Tiers to use it, I regularly use it on my red-core setups.

[flint cobalt]

Can't use it if it gets blown up immediately..

[frozen meadow]

shit

[hybrid ore]

I've not really had that happen all that much.

[frozen meadow]

fox? 🦊

[hybrid ore]

and I've used it a lot, even all the way back to FMJ

[frozen meadow]

sorry i hsve no clue whats going on i just saw fox

[flint cobalt]

Well it happens lol🤷‍♂️

[hybrid ore]

Firefly TV show, cancelled early by 21st century Fox.

[frozen meadow]

foxes did not cancel that show

[hybrid ore]

us older nerds are still salty about it

[frozen meadow]

foxes like fireflies

[hybrid ore]

Fireflies are very endangered so foxes should leave them alone.

[kind veldt]

firefly blinder works fine in most builds as long you tag people

the other ones are too niche most of the time

[flint cobalt]

Yup, demolisher sucks

[neon wyvern]

warhound insta killer

[flint cobalt]

I just use a jammer on warhounds tbh

[hybrid ore]

EMP sticky is a lot of fun, the trick with keeping it up so you can double-use it on a Hound is a fun one.

tl;dr fire it once, don't detonate, wait until it's about to run out then set it off. May have been patched.

[kind veldt]

dont think it has been because its just regular behaviour

[full zinc]

has there been any eta given for phase 2 PTS for resolve?

[kind veldt]

mostly that human enemies can throw sticky outs

[kind veldt]

19-22 january

[full zinc]

nice, ty 👍

[random quest]

If you're like me and run a Headhunter build, and you're doing the current season's manhunt with Guardian on, Heroic and 4 Directives and everything up to The Recruiter mission has been fairly doable, get ready for a rude awakening at Camp White Oak.
Guardian off, cancel Directives and lower difficulty, because weakspots and Headhunter doesn't like eachother.

[neon wyvern]

why are you running a head hunter build when you know the last boss is a hunter

almost as bad as running a skill build

[hybrid ore]

You don't really fight the Recruiter in the mission, I mean that's not a spoiler at this point, right?

You do, but you don't really.

[neon wyvern]

I thought it's been out long enough

[neon wyvern]

you still have to break his armor on ur own

[real creek]

My first time I went in HH regulus lol, you don't know till ya know ya know.

[hybrid ore]

Enough chaff spawns so that you can use Determined on the boss himself.
That's what I did in a run anyway.

I'm convinced that's why hordes keep spawning.

[prisma beacon]

is there any way to reduce the screen shake?

[neon wyvern]

even shd 828383 don't know what hunters are

[azure lintel]

I will be eventually looking to join a clan just unsure, as the ones advertised do not really have weekly/time requirements mentioned

[hybrid ore]

You can always contact the people who post the notices and ask.

[prisma beacon]

im trying to do manning zoo and the screen shake is so bad i actually had to go throw up

[neon wyvern]

wtf

[prisma beacon]

like im not even near the explosions and it has my screen rotating 30 degrees for 2 seconds every 5 seconds

[hybrid ore]

I think that's your game tbh.

I don't even recall any screenshake on Manning Zoo base.

[azure lintel]

thank you

[neon wyvern]

Invaded zoo

[random quest]

Yeah, I don't know why it was immediate toxicity. It was more a PSA for people if they see my message, as I didn't know it would be a problem.

[prisma beacon]

invaded mortars

and the guardians, man its so disorientating the screen shake without any explosion noise

[hybrid ore]

Check your settings, because it 100% should not be rotating that much.

[neon wyvern]

I wonder if the games warning on startup includes vomiting on screenshake

[hybrid ore]

or at all, does the screen rotate during explosions?

[prisma beacon]

i have motion sick mode on

[neon wyvern]

That would be funny if motion sick mode was making the mortars worse

[kind veldt]

i think explosions might tilt the cam a bit, dont have that kind of motion sickness so cant remember properly

[prisma beacon]

thanks, i appreciate that, but i dont suffer that way, i get motion sick every now and then with high fov games

[hybrid ore]

Does rolling just before the explosions help?
I'm kind of struggling to define anything that happens in div2 as "rotating the screen"

[prisma beacon]

oh yeah, i try and roll every explosion even if it gets me in bad positioning

[hybrid ore]

Are you 100% sure you're not throwing your monitor off the desk?

It's an easy mistake to make.

[neon wyvern]

👴

[random quest]

No, no, that was me.

[prisma beacon]

omg thats totally it, ive been playing in zero g

silly me, how could i have forgot

[hybrid ore]

It only rotating 30' in zero gravity is very impressive, ngl.

[prisma beacon]

screen shake intesifies

[random quest]

Does The Recruiter drop anything of value outside of the backpack trophy?

[neon wyvern]

Lore

[hybrid ore]

Comms for the first few runs.

[neon wyvern]

[hybrid ore]

he didn't even drop the patch until an actual patch came in.

ironically.

[neon wyvern]

The recruiter patch is good

too bad others won't be able to get it next season

[random quest]

Ah okay. I'll run it on lower difficulty to get it done, since I don't have any other builds for the time being :3

[hybrid ore]

The final reward for a Manhunt is obtainable once the Season is over, just an FYI

you can still get Stovepipe's vest, AFAIK anyway.

[neon wyvern]

I'd like to have past manhunt comms

at some point

[hybrid ore]

You can get the final ones if you farm each past boss, but yeah the bulk of them are gone.
It'd be nice if they just added them to the final bosses loot pool once a Season is over.

[knotty ember]

Does any1 know the drop chance of the EB in the Dz?

[neon wyvern]

Winning the lottery/100

so like less then 0.1% and targeted loot doesn't do anything

[knotty ember]

-_- 😦

[prisma beacon]

rogue agents? invaded bamboo forest? yes please, good trade

[dire patrol]

Since we found out the Recruiter mask didnt fill in the missing hook in NYC, is it thought there is another Hunter in NYC yet to be found?

[tender wave]

Hmm, some unpopular decisions there in the pts notes. Surprised they reverted the Elmo pvp nerf, don't think I saw anyone objecting to that

Descent changes are positive at least

[kind veldt]

i can see the point of not wanting to buff handling across the board since guns would feel the same

thne that just kinda makes me want to double down on why not buff AK

[tender wave]

for ARs I agree, for rifles if they buff across the board though you'll still be able to distinguish between the better and worse ones, but they'll all be that bit more usable than they currently are.

[kind veldt]

honestly thats my issue with rifles above 10 round magazines, they alreayd feel the same for me

Sig, MDR, MK20 are too similar for me in handling

[tender wave]

that's a different issue then, and again a buff across the board will neither increase nor decrease those differences/similarities

[kind veldt]

same for LWM4, LVOA-C, UIC-15, resolute MK47 feel the same

ACR just cross the line by having an oddly high rof for semi auto rifles

[tender wave]

manual clicking speed being the other major problem with rifles

[hybrid ore]

Just to be clear, the gear lock thing is PvP only, right?

[kind veldt]

ARs i think you feel their stability and accuracy values difference way better and of course rof

[tender wave]

(unless you bind it to mouse wheel or a macro or something)

[kind veldt]

lmao nope

[tender wave]

no, the gear lock affects everything

that's why it was so unpopular in PTS

[kind veldt]

that was part of the discussion about how you would joing someone with pistolero or cool skills and git fucked

i understand for conflict and rogue

[hybrid ore]

Ah.
well if that change goes through I'm super looking forward to the screaming matches it'll inspire on here.

[kind veldt]

PVE just screams "we either change everything in the code or none at all"

[hybrid ore]

It makes very little sense, since in a lot of cases in the same notes it says "for pvp only".

[soft snow]

so what about them changing the RNG for drops such as 13% PFE etc etc

[kind veldt]

dont know the code so cant say it

[tender wave]

because going rogue in DZ doesn't inherently mark you as 'in combat' I guess

[kind veldt]

if they are not changing handling, then i once again gotta question the buff values for FAL and lack of AK changes

[hybrid ore]

I mean in the DZ, fine whatever, but in the LZ I change gear all the time, especially during GE's where I'm swapping it up mission by mission.

[kind veldt]

rifles i think they could get away with it by making more rifles be burst fire

[dawn relic]

somehow mosquitoes are getting bigger in my place

[soft snow]

:/

[dawn relic]

they kept getting bigger and bigger

[soft snow]

more mosquito spray ?

[kind veldt]

buy bug spray, mosquitos are no good and have some nasty disease

t. tropical jungle person

[dawn relic]

i can say their size are doubled

[tender wave]

only locked in combat, you can still change gear between rooms if you haven't accidentally agro'd someone outside the mission or something

[soft snow]

6proton6electrons6neutrons huh

[hybrid ore]

The patch notes specifically mention something about "a 1 minute period of being able to do it" after joining a new Session. It's confusingly worded.

[kind veldt]

that is new part they are going to test it

[tender wave]

that's about joining someone elses session, in case they have awkward directives

so you can throw on a pistolero-proof build or whatever

[hybrid ore]

But why at all? There is litearlly no reason to do so.
difficulty is managed by increasing the difficulty.

[kind veldt]

some people are screaming it will kill some raid and other speedruns

[hybrid ore]

It will kill how I play a lot of the game, that's for sure. I change up items I have on constantly.

[kind veldt]

i could be misunderstanding but this is mostly instant loudout changes and not individual pieces

[tender wave]

well, that's the big question - part of it is seemingly to stop the hotswap one-shot-kill tactics in raids & incurions, but it does seem unnecessary to force it everywhere else too

[hybrid ore]

Just this week alone 3 separate mission I did I had a persistent enemy just outside of the building I was in, so I was always "in combat".

[rigid wedge]

Community: Remove the gearlock on PVE
Ubisoft/Massive: We are removing the gearlock for rogues!

:killme:

[kind veldt]

thats why i said it smells like it might be more code dependent of have it all or none at all

[hybrid ore]

I mean, if that's the case then why not just change the enemy to be resistant to that.

Add a shield in front of the door or something.

get an NPC to hold up a sign saying "please don't"

ah well, thanks for letting me know. Very disappointed in this.

[fiery cloud]

Hey Rivens, Eevee, Local, Kettle

[tender wave]

Hey Saph

[fiery cloud]

just picked up the s23 ultra

[rigid wedge]

Nice

[fiery cloud]

even better mines unlocked

Hey Serj

[fair lake]

Hi Saph

What did I get from reading developer notes:

• people hate talent rotation in Descent = developers force players to get used to it
• people hate gear lock (in PvE especially) = developers force players to get used to it

5 years after release devs remembered that:
The Division 2 is a tactical shooter, meaning that strategic planning and decision-making play a significant role in gameplay

[kind veldt]

here's my weird suggestion, buff some rifles damage even more, nerf magazine sizes for more of them, make more of them burst fire

[fair lake]

without stability / accuracy bonus it's pointless

[real creek]

tactical shooter... Isn't this game a looter/shooter?

[rigid wedge]

tactical shooter...?

That's Rainbow Six Siege's job

[kind veldt]

if you kill in less shots your reticle wont spend much time being alll over the place

[rigid wedge]

What next ubisoft labels R6S as a looter shooter?

[real creek]

Ghost recon was my thought.

[fair lake]

don't ask me, that's a direct quote from trello

[kind veldt]

eh... more in terms of it's a math game that you plan ahead

[rigid wedge]

That series too

[real creek]

I know I read the blip.

[kind veldt]

or you are telling me that you pick gear at random and go without looking at the numbers? yeah i know just playing devil's advocate for a sec

[real creek]

I mean if they are doing on that it's a tactical shooter then enemies should be 1 shot headshot regardless and stealth should be an actual thing.

[iron gust]

Facts 👍
Descent talent rotation is a bad idea

[real creek]

Can you imagine playing a tactical shooter and it takes 50-100 shots to kill something.

[fair lake]

LITERALLY EVERYBODY said that it's bullshit, yet, they're trying hard to force it to us

[kind veldt]

ghost recon breakpoint? you know there are raid bosses that are giant machines

[rigid wedge]

Breakpoint is that.

If you have it on launch settings

[real creek]

You know in breakpoint you can 1 shot enemies in the face? Other than helms, protection drones, and literal tanks or mechs of sorts it's all belp in 1 shot.

[kind veldt]

Yes i played that game, it's was horrible with the gear system, it just forced enemies to survive actually 20+ bodyshots if your gear was "low level" and at the same time you could just snipe everyone in one shot to the head

yeah it's weird to call division 2 tactical game, but i just see it as "you take your own time making your own build and putting thought on how it's going to play, so throwing it away and changing at every corner feels cheap" is what i got from the dev comment

i still dont believe PVE should have gear lock at all just to be clear

[full zinc]

good morning Saph

[rigid wedge]

And somehow removing the lock for rogues

[kind veldt]

devs think people should be way more invested in their builds so hot swapping loudouts shouldnt happen kinda suddendly a healer switching a ninja middle of a boss battle in a MMO raid, the tactical game part is just weird

nah i think it fits people going hard rogue as high risk

[undone timber]

Changing builds on the fly would make everything hella cheap

[kind veldt]

PVP issues are other can of worms more than changing builds

[rigid wedge]

I just think the lock should be removed for PVE. If I need to change my ouros (yes I gotten it a while ago) to an St Elmos would be nice

[random quest]

What caches would you guys recommend buying from the global events vendor? :3

[real creek]

Well you can't change loadouts during combat anyway.

[dawn relic]

so discovery and normal is totally not the same in raid mechanics ?

[real creek]

I mean I don't wanna say they don't like speed runners but at some point you just have to admit that it's really stacked up against speed running. Changes to the incursion to prevent 1 shot were just for speed runners. These changes have the biggest impact on speed running too.

[dawn relic]

like they will change the mechanics ?

[rigid wedge]

You can't get the raid exclusive stuff in discovery

[dawn relic]

i know

[undone timber]

Discovery is completely watered down

[dawn relic]

but what about mechanics or stuff

[real creek]

@dawn relic I did your invaded zoo and yeah 100% normal players would be clapped by those mortars.

[dawn relic]

because in destiny 2 normal mode and prestige mode is totally different

raid

[real creek]

Normal and discovery raids are totally different mechanics in this game too.

[dawn relic]

sad

[kind veldt]

discovery cuts or skips mechanics

[dawn relic]

i will stay on discovery mode first lol

[kind veldt]

doesnt evne teach people about them, so i think it's really bad

[undone timber]

Discovery doesn't benefit you in any way

[dawn relic]

dude, even discovery mode can take you 3 hrs to finish

[kind veldt]

the only benefits is to shut people who asked for matchmaking

[undone timber]

Who are you playing with😭

[kind veldt]

that's it

[dawn relic]

because your teammates dont even listen to you

like they dont know how to read words at all

[undone timber]

You get that a lot in random matchmaking lol

[dawn relic]

its not like they dont bother to see , its like they dont know english at first place and just kept silent

and that really enraged me, because if you give up no one can help

[undone timber]

I wouldn't go into a random raid and expect communication tbh

If you wanna do it do it properly and find a team on normal

[dawn relic]

raid must have comms, no comms raid never ends well

[undone timber]

You can do no comms but only with a good team

[dawn relic]

FF14 , TERA, the other D2 already taught u

[kind veldt]

thast why i like incursions, just the sweet spot

[undone timber]

I still don't do random incursions tbh cuz you get a lot of people who don't pull weight

And with only 4 players it's harder to cover for them

[dawn relic]

if you blacklist a person, can it stops you from matched with him?

[undone timber]

I don't think so

[tranquil drum]

Anyone wanna run raids it’s my first time. Pc

[ebon parrot]

stupid crashes

[astral jacinth]

wait so we wont be able to change builds during a mission?

[wise basalt]

were changes to skill mods shown in the pts or is that in the next pts?

[small spear]

during a mission but out of combat you can change as you always can

the change is about swapping individual pieces (hotswapping) mid-combat

[astral jacinth]

oh thats fine

[desert crystal]

so hotswapping we still work as long as enemys are not active then

[small spear]

yeah

[neon wyvern]

If only we had to travel back to the white house to change builds

that would make the game more realistic

[desert crystal]

i thought they was blocking it fully didnt realise it only applied to an active area

so if in a mission and the areas safe your be able to chage then

[small spear]

yeah it's just in-combat and changing one piece

[astral jacinth]

Now just anticipating how many bugs will pop up once resolve goes live

[tropic pilot]

Is there a way to level up weapons ?

[kind veldt]

depends, taking a lv 12 weapon to lv 20 is not possible. You can upgrade max level weapons with proficiency and expertise

[tender wave]

for exotics, you can reconfigure at the crafting bench (might have to buy the blueprint from Inaya first), for any other weapon no except expertise as mentioned

[tropic pilot]

That's OK just was just wondering if I can level up my level 30 chatterbox so that works

Almost done warlords then I can get am actual build

[tender wave]

yes, you can upgrade lvl 30 exotics to 40 by reconfiguring

[tropic pilot]

Awesome thanks

[quaint comet]

Just saw the claws out piece of gear

Made me laugh when i saw the +500% damages

[kind veldt]

melee damage*

that and punch drunk are just waiting for a pistol gear set to be released

or more talents that work on pistols

[quaint comet]

Yeah forgot to put melee damages

But i saw it and that's why it made me laugh

Lady death is a good primary for it

[dawn relic]

lol dark hours are way too straight forward

[white hazel]

There's a Project that just says "Defeat the Nemesis"? Is that something new because I have zero idea what that even means?

[neon wyvern]

go to descent

[white hazel]

Is that end game only? Because I'm playing through the campaign still :D

[neon wyvern]

when you get out of new york yeah

idk if it's dlc exclusive

[fast harness]

Gear locking is a dumb concept change my mind

i'm a pve player

if i'm using a skill build and i see enemies that require more attention, i should be able to switch

plus it neuters loadouts as a whole. They should have kept it for hardcore. not core playthroughs

[quaint comet]

Is there a way to get to nemesis faster ? Because i've been taking the most difficult rooms and couldn't get to it

[real creek]

Go all easy rooms if you wanna get there faster.

[iron sphinx]

hi guys it seems to me either the matador is not working properly
it seems to give much less armour than usual i have a build with 5 core blue

[quaint comet]

At what loop Can I expect to get to nemesis with easiest rooms ?

[real creek]

I think 6ish?

A nem run is typically gonna be 30-40ish minutes

[quaint comet]

I was watching Roguegold vids and he was saying like 4 loops

[real creek]

Well run it and find out.

[undone light]

i am lvl 30 with item level of 496, i upgraded my crafting bench to item level 500 as well. i got st elmos engine from the exotic chest which is item level 502 or so. then i saw its blueprint at the vendor and purchased that too. however i cant see the weapon in any section of the crafting bench. i already sent ticket to ubisoft but havent got an answer yet. am i missing something or is it a bug? because even i have the item in my inventory and bought the relevant blueprint it doesnt show up in my craftnig bench. i scrolled all thee way down to exotic weapons but its not there, even locked status.

[quaint comet]

Gonna try it after, trying to finish the apparel event, need just one more key

[full zinc]

I agree. It shouldnt matter in pve since its primarily a PVP complaint...💯

[real creek]

Gear lock does a ton of "fixes" that would mean more work elsewhere, there are TONS of hot swapping bugs with gear. I think this is what it's all about. This game is not a tactical shooter by any means and them using that as reason is dumb, I think this game has more in common with diablo/torchlight/POE than tactical shooters.

[fast harness]

plus most players don't give two shits about pvp

[real creek]

Where did your screenshot go?

[fast harness]

they should have left it for hardcore not pve

plus the game doesn't feel right with a needed feature taken out of the game

[real creek]

Gear lock is just a lazy fix to all the bugs that come with being able to hotswap items. After reading the notes I'm pretty sure that's all it is.

[fast harness]

exactly. they're lazy as shit

they usually just recycle content and push out breadcrumbs

[tropic pilot]

Seems like division could of been a huge success if they just worked on it more, is this a general consensus or

[fast harness]

never fixing game breaking bugs from day one

[fast harness]

i agree. But i doubt project resolve will fix most of the issues tbh

[white hazel]

What is gear locking? 🙂

[fast harness]

i'm starting to hate this game

and i'm glad i played it less.

[fast harness]

locking gear in combat

[real creek]

You can't change any thing on your build once in combat.

[tropic pilot]

Like the looter shooter market is open and it has all the tools to be good

[white hazel]

Well yeah doesn't that make perfect sense?

If you have to change your build mid combat, your build sucks?

[full zinc]

It's got its issues but is still very much alive in y5 and receiving updates, fairly successful regardless

[real creek]

So what if you run out of ammo and want to put an SMG on?

[fast harness]

what if i wanted to use a different gun

[tropic pilot]

I mean obviously success is relative, I think the game is great would just like to see something huge for 3

[fast oasis]

I read the notes on Trello and I can’t tell from the wording - is St. Elmo’s getting a pve nerf too? They’re a little vague

[fast harness]

they called it underwelming

[white hazel]

Why did you run out of ammo and why do you want to change your gun mid combat? Why didn't you make your build so that you wouldn't run out of ammo and that your gun would be able to handle the mission?

[fast harness]

and thats a crock of shit

[white hazel]

Jesus. I'm 100% the most casual player here and I disagree with that shit lmao.

[fast harness]

That doesn't make any sense

[full zinc]

As long as hotswap still available out of combat then its workable. Still kinda dookie but if its correcting some game breaking stuff then it is what it is

[white hazel]

yes it does, read it again maybe

[fast harness]

i already did

[tropic pilot]

I haven't even done warlords thankfully I have no idea what any of this means

Seems like not a huge deal though

[full zinc]

Everything a huge deal in d2 😂 /s

[tropic pilot]

How's the summit ? That seems like some fun content

[tender wave]

no, they're just removing the nerf that was in the previous PTS that gave elmo only half a mag of shock ammo in pvp (no change in pve either way)

[kind veldt]

the elmo stuff was just PVP

[fast oasis]

Heard, thanks! It was difficult to read between the lines lol

[fast oasis]

Thx

[white hazel]

It's not. The point of the game is to make a build that can handle missions, and these people want to change their builds mid-mission because their actual builds don't work.

[tropic pilot]

Oh

Yeah I just got random pieces on right now

Looking forward to an actual build tho

[white hazel]

It's like wanting to change character mid-fight in Tekken.

Yeah I'm doing a second playthrough myself actually

[tropic pilot]

That would be kinda cool tho as a custom game mode lol

[white hazel]

well sure, but imagine complaining about that in ranked

[tropic pilot]

So is there actual roles like do people ever look for specific things or not really

[tender wave]

or maybe the circumstances change significantly and unexpectedly. I'll happily play sniper through open world stuff, and everything is fine until a marauder shows up and suddenly I have to either run away or have my build set up for that 1% chance that's not needed the rest of time

[white hazel]

Well, based on my TD1 experience, most people play DPS. Then there's crowd control and support. That's it really. And there's several ways to do any of them.

[tender wave]

and as someone else pointed out, there's also those situations where an enemy gets stuck in the wall and you need an oxidiser or emp + vile to clear them and continue the mission

[white hazel]

Of course there's meta builds for everything

[tropic pilot]

A skill build seems cool

I'm using the ball thing now

[white hazel]

You are supposed to be prepared for that, jesus christ dude.

[tropic pilot]

One shots like 6 enemies with cluster bombs

[tender wave]

for raids + incursion there are roles, for everything else normal DPS will cover 95% of content and maybe a CC guy or healer in legendaries

[fast oasis]

I am having no problem shredding enemies in heroic or legendary content, but St. Elmo’s is greedy. I do run out of ammo sometimes. And yes, usually there is an ammo crate accessible, but not always, and npcs don’t always drop ammo when you need it. So I do have concerns about that. But I guess we’ll see.

[white hazel]

Cluster is great, I'm using a skill build for the campaign. Cluster+Shield.

[tropic pilot]

Shield looked cool as well

I wanted to do like a tank/skill build but idk if that's viable

[real creek]

My guy has never had to carry a lego mission before.

[tender wave]

prepared by like, just not running sniper in open world because of the possibility of marauders?

or prepared to take 20 mins trying to bring one down with a sniper build

[white hazel]

I don't know what that means

[iron sphinx]

does not allow me to upload it I will send it to you in private

[white hazel]

If your build can't handle it, then yeah

[real creek]

How far are you into the game?

[real creek]

#ask-td2-community can post there

[iron sphinx]

k

[white hazel]

I played for like 200 hours couple of years ago, and now started another character three days ago.

[tropic pilot]

Same, except like 70 hours lol

[real creek]

Well get thru manning zoo legendary and you'll have a different opinion on the game.

[white hazel]

I won't

[tropic pilot]

I just did the last warlord boss now I have to go see what Keller is up to

[white hazel]

I have 6000 hours in Warframe which is a similar game, philosophically and game design wise

[tender wave]

gotta love that confidence

[white hazel]

If you can't handle a mission, your build sucks and you suck at the game, that's all there is

[real creek]

Yes lets compare two different games...

[tropic pilot]

I detest warframe and destiny 2

[zinc shadow]

they're both looter shooters

[white hazel]

Good for you, I detest Destiny too

[hybrid ore]

It is absolutely in no way similar to Warframe.

or Destiny.

[white hazel]

lmao

You make builds, you repeat the same missions over and over again

[hybrid ore]

Div2 and Outriders are basically the same.

[white hazel]

that's the relevant part here

[tropic pilot]

I mean it's similar in the sense that they're looter shooters

Game play no

[hybrid ore]

Warframe isn't a looter shooter.

[white hazel]

oh my god

[hybrid ore]

you craft things back at the ship, you don't pick them up from the ground.

[fast oasis]

Warframe has a heavy emphasis on ability spam. Guns are backup. It and Div2 are not similar enough.

[tropic pilot]

Semantics

[white hazel]

I'm not sure if you are serious or not :D

[real creek]

To a player that might be on solo heroic the opinions track but if they haven't played anything else then yeah they just don't know what the game is really like.

[hybrid ore]

In that case, WoW is officially a looter shooter because it's also online.

[tropic pilot]

Nobody is saying it's a looter shooter because it's online lol

[zinc shadow]

wow isn't a shooter...

[hybrid ore]

They're both online, it's semantics.

[tropic pilot]

It's an mmorpg nothing like a shooter

[white hazel]

I'm talking with children, I'm out.

[hybrid ore]

You can play an all melee build in all 3 games.

[real creek]

Well thankfully that will be over now.

[hybrid ore]

I was just about to start making the "they all share at least one VA, probably" joke, it's a good thing it's over.

[white hazel]

Anyways, the point is that the absolute core idea of the game is to make a build that works. Making builds is the ABSOLUTE FUNDAMENTAL IDEA of the game. If YOU CAN'T make that work, it means you suck at the game.

[hybrid ore]

You do realise some people are new at the game, right?

[fast oasis]

I don’t understand someone forming an opinion without actually experiencing the thing they’re talking about first, then announcing everyone else is childish and they’re leaving…as if this is an airport and we need the departures announced. Lol

[tropic pilot]

I mean he has 6k hours in warframe I'd probably listen to what they call it

[zinc shadow]

well it was one of the dumbest fucking "debates" I've ever seen

[hybrid ore]

To be 100% clear: no one on here should care about someone else's competency at div2. We were all new once and the only way to improve is through time and practice.

And if anyone tries to start singling out newbies, someone tag me and I'll remove them.

[tender wave]

risse's point is that if a build doesn't work in every possible forseeable circumstance that might arise, it's a useless build. Which is really rather limiting, but hey, he's got over 200 hours!

(plus lots of time in a different game)

[tropic pilot]

I just go places and shoot things

[hybrid ore]

^Hours ingame are about as important as your SHD level. Aka: not.

[tropic pilot]

I just meant in reference to the looter shooter thing

[white hazel]

I mean it's not like the game is very unpredictable.

[hybrid ore]

I've been playing WF since 2015. It's not really that similar.

still got my first Kubrow. I love my prowy.

[fast oasis]

It’s not similar lol

[white hazel]

Destiny, Division, Warframe, Diablo, Torchlight are all the same in this context

[real creek]

It is if you haven't played matchmaking with randoms in end game content.

[tropic pilot]

The looting or farming for loot is similar

[hybrid ore]

Again, no.

[real creek]

Which of these games gear lock you in combat?

[hybrid ore]

Warframe, since you can't change guns mid mission.

[tropic pilot]

Yes

[white hazel]

Don't know about Diablo, Destiny or TL

And I just realized that you can change guns mid combat in Division 2

[tender wave]

the game has elements of randomness, certain of which render entire builds pretty much useless (eg random emp rooms in summit) - by your argument, one should therefore never play skill builds in summit, because of this possibility. You'd just stick to striker for all content everywhere because it's the best option that's not going to be unexpectedly hampered - but that's massively boring because it knocks all sorts of interesting variations out

[kind veldt]

Warframe

[hybrid ore]

I've said it before, but a total gear lock in div2 would break a lot of people's flow of the game entirely.
I hope they reconsider it for PvE at least.

[fast oasis]

Yeah, I just think it’s rather naïve to assume even a perfect build wouldn’t ever have ammo issues.

[white hazel]

Predictable randomness.

[real creek]

Wait so put up a list of 5 games and only one gear locks you?

[small spear]

yes?

[white hazel]

lol, lmao even

hahaha

[small spear]

have you heard of btsu gloves?

[white hazel]

"doesn't mean your build is bad" but a gear change somehow helps you, mkay

[real creek]

They don't know the game well enough to know what hot swapping can even do for them. I wouldn't worry about it.

Just let them fizzle out.

[small spear]

it's aight i'm just seeing how big the gap is

[real creek]

They haven't even tried legendary.

[quaint comet]

Is it me or sometimes in descent, ennemies spawn from non highlighted doors ?

[real creek]

That means no raids/incursion I bet too.

[white hazel]

Not sure when I mentioned this but okay

[small spear]

they never do, you probably lit up some environmental hazards which made the highlight not show up as brightly?

[real creek]

Do you want me to link it?

[white hazel]

yes

[quaint comet]

Or i'm just blind

[small spear]

wouldn't say that outright, but just from my experience they never show up from a non-highlighted door

[real creek]

#td2-general-chat message

[crystal obsidian]

i dont even play div 2 but this is hilarious

[whole hull]

What is

[fast harness]

I bet you haven't soloed most of the legendary content

[crystal obsidian]

this whole conversation lol

[whole hull]

I just got here

[crystal obsidian]

scroll up lol

[white hazel]

So because you used a term I didn't understand, you ASSUMED (which you accused me for before) that I haven't played legendaries?

[whole hull]

To busy grinding

but I will

[fast harness]

I'm not the one printing out the skill issue excuse

💀

[crystal obsidian]

bro just dodged the entire question

[whole hull]

You might need to give me a rundown

or reply to where it started

[white hazel]

So, in fact I have LITERALLY (literally in its literal sense) never said that I haven't played a legendary before.

So, you were EXTREMELY wrong.

[fast harness]

Then why are you telling others to git gud then

[crystal obsidian]

basically a bunch of hurt feelings because he said get gud and now everyone is throwing out weird flexes

[fast oasis]

I’d just block and move on. It’s a circular reasoning with that person. Not worth it lol

[white hazel]

what the fuck

[real creek]

Do you even know which missions have legendary?

[whole hull]

Shit flex in this game? A flex is like hey look at all this time I invested lol

[white hazel]

Is that relevant?

[fast harness]

True

[real creek]

Have you ever completed a legendary mission?

[fast harness]

I'm not even hurt

[white hazel]

Yes, I have, several times, in D1 and D2

[fast harness]

Bros condescending as fuck

[white hazel]

Wonder why that is

[crystal obsidian]

somebody just told him 1. youre a teenager and 2. i bet you havent even solod a legendary mission

[whole hull]

Didnt know soloing them was a big thing

[real creek]

Yes I know all about the legendary missions! They were done by me and were legendary!

[sterile ferry]

Opening this channel makes me feel like the meme where a guy enters the room holding a few pizza boxes, just to see the chaos inside

[full zinc]

I wonder how long this goes on? I'll have to break out some beers for the over 30 crowd 🍿 🍻

[real creek]

Breh I don't even drink lol

[fast harness]

Not really

[whole hull]

Thats what I thought

[fast harness]

Like most things in the game are p easy

[full zinc]

Gonna start after today 😂

Well at least when you turn 21 😉 /s

[crystal obsidian]

fr. anyone with a good build can do it. i mean as rise said earlier its kinda the entire point of the game

[white hazel]

Well, I'm glad I turned this chat alive tonight :)

[fast harness]

Soloing legs is tedious and unrewarding tnh

[whole hull]

That is why I am kinda lost like what does soloing a legendary have to do with anything

[white hazel]

But I'm out for real now, since Soulless couldn't continue.

[neon wyvern]

sup

nvm bye

[fast oasis]

Can I have a bourbon instead?

[crystal obsidian]

absolutely nothing but this is what people were saying to him after he said to get good at the game if you cant figure out how to make builds

[fast harness]

Which is warranted

[neon wyvern]

I soloed legendary roosevelt with guardians on

[sterile ferry]

I wish i was good enough to solo legendaries lol

[small spear]

solo legendary is never about the rewards tbh, but it teaches you a lot. the point isn't to say everyone should do it, the point is that anyone who has has a level of expectations they can meet

[neon wyvern]

Legendary be the only reason I know ai so well

[fast harness]

Um um um I like war I like warmongering I like dying in pointless conflicts

I haven't played the game in a while though

It feels boring to me since I was waiting on the new hostages

And found something else to play

[crystal obsidian]

ah now im just being trolled. noice

[real creek]

Manhunt is fully out tho.

[neon wyvern]

Yeah the hostages came out one week sloeer