#td2-general-chat

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neon wyvern
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better be better then that sawed off

frozen meadow
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+50% movement speed -30% total weapon damage

neon wyvern
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$50petter

frozen meadow
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Fixed

neon wyvern
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new league speedrun exotic just dropped

frozen meadow
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Wait no better idea

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Each shot taken adds a stack up to max 100 stacks. Each stack grants +1% movement speed and -1% outgoing damage.

At max stacks, all stacks are consumed and grant -50% movement speed for 5 seconds.

frozen meadow
frozen meadow
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Yes

neon wyvern
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nice catharsis clone

frozen meadow
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Lol

neon wyvern
frozen meadow
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Would it be a good speedrunning exotic

iron tide
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not played for about 2 years has any raid items become non raid?

frozen meadow
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Cuz damage would be abysmal

broken solstice
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Turrible

neon wyvern
real creek
frozen meadow
iron tide
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never done any raids

real creek
frozen meadow
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Fixes

iron tide
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watch is around 410-430

neon wyvern
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not iron horse🀒

real creek
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Eevee would carry you.

neon wyvern
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damn

iron tide
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my builds i used where aslo from years ago so i need to find new ones

frozen meadow
real creek
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I didn't say lead tho.

frozen meadow
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Ik

real creek
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I should try to run IH more tho.

neon wyvern
real creek
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I need to practice HH on boss 4.

neon wyvern
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hotswap off tank after first encounter

frozen meadow
neon wyvern
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and play normally

iron tide
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what was the light blueish gray tier item called ?

nocturne cypress
frozen meadow
neon wyvern
nocturne cypress
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Nah, I was too high to think about it lol

neon wyvern
real creek
frozen meadow
neon wyvern
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Then you have big movespeed buff

frozen meadow
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So I made it literally just cringe as hell

neon wyvern
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seems good enough

frozen meadow
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Well your outgoing damage drops to zero

neon wyvern
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nvm if that effects all damage then I'm sad again

frozen meadow
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Yes it does

neon wyvern
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😭

real creek
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Who needs damage when you got the zoomies.

neon wyvern
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that's this guns purpose

frozen meadow
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I just realized how wack of a gun this would be for tank builds

real creek
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Honeslty it would be a super good secondary weapon. I'd use it.

frozen meadow
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Or an "AAAAAAAAAAAAA" gun when you get bombarded by heavies

real creek
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Incursion, I'd be loading up moss and nyoom thru the next rooms to the book shelve.

iron tide
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i mean im not CB but maybe the guy on the video was

neon wyvern
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moss would be loading you up

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but it's all for the movement speed

frozen meadow
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NYOOM

real creek
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It gives ground effects circles so you can spot them super easy.

iron tide
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is it only for loot or the whole game?

real creek
iron tide
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cb colour blind

real creek
iron tide
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like i want to try raids but with both my gear build and not knowing i dont want to be the iron slug in the party

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is there a ingame icon or something to know if i own a raid item?

real creek
real creek
iron tide
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i thought the foundrys set was raid

real creek
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Yes and no.

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The blueprints are raid but you can get them from any targeted loot.

iron tide
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ah

dire flicker
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is pestilence spreading a LOS thing or should it just chain through the room without LOS

small spear
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no, based on promixity

fiery cloud
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Hey Souless, Eevee, Local

dire flicker
small spear
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oh nvm it is 25 meters, but it spreads to one only

dire flicker
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so the weapon description is wrong

neon wyvern
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This isn't no creeping death or eclipse protocol

small spear
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i do think that needs examination because the same talent in descent is very finicky

neon wyvern
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one enemy spreading take it or leave it

dire flicker
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i know it is only one target but it feels very much that it doesn't always spread to an enemy at all

small spear
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it's best to not rely on the spreading and just stack as much as you can tbh

dire flicker
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i know, it just felt inconsistant

twilit stag
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with fog of war directive off i can truly actually enjoy and play in heroic with the squishy striker !!!! with it on i 98% of the time die to some random mofo with a shotgun that suddently sneaks behind me

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there's always enemies sneaking behind me no matter what, be it a convoy suddently passing by, a patrol, some random elite... etc, why are enemies always spawning behind me man, whats thissss cyberpunk 2077!!!

neon wyvern
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this is why you should invest into memento mcbluecores

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or revive hivepetter

twilit stag
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i hate it but i also have to admit i do think the AI is not so bad, they actually are super sneaky flanking you, or when you use deflector and suddently they become headshot gods πŸ’€

real creek
twilit stag
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idk what shoes they wear but omfg

fluid meadow
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Pretty damn good

fluid meadow
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Captures everything Even down to the "growls" true sons rushers make lol

real creek
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Some UwUs poping up?

fluid meadow
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Maybe when you are near the dz walls idk

real creek
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lol

twilit stag
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DZ is the worst nightmare ive ever seen in my life and is not the griefers, is the dude farming the same Landmarks as i am

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and he wont stop singing

real creek
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esc>social>nearby>click name>mute

twilit stag
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someone pls bring the griefers back πŸ₯Ή

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i usually dont kill people in the dz, if i manage to defend myself from someone attacking and down them i just run away while they get revived from the hive

fluid meadow
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Professional dz farmer hater

real creek
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Do a slow clap for greater effect.

twilit stag
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Point down XD

fluid meadow
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Or teabag

twilit stag
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sometimes i get annoyed but i also have in mind the DZ is meant to pvp and i willingly go there so cant really be mad at people doing pvp in a pvp area c:

fluid meadow
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Trust me. People will always complain, i heard someone wanting a pve dz lmao

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That's called open world

twilit stag
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πŸ—Ώ

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Would be nice to have Landmarks in the open world tho, i mean to grind mats xD only thing to farm Recalibration mats are the Control points and they take longer than a landmark

fluid meadow
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Reason why dz is rewarding in that regard is due to the pvp risk. Removing the risk means removing the reward

twilit stag
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a landmark takes like what, 3 minutes or so, is crazy

fluid meadow
iron tide
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i wonder what the world record for the summit 100 floor clear is like solo mp and all directives and legedary

real creek
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It was just legendary and it was 4:48 1-100.

iron tide
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4:48hrs? thats nuts

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prob would take me a day if i survive

real creek
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Dudes name is RoterBlitz. you can check them out on youtube if you want.

quasi verge
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288 minutes roughly... 2.8 minutes a floor. I can see it.

timber hatch
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Roter is arguably the best player in the game

lucid haven
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What are countdown requisitions?

real creek
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Dude is CRACKED

real creek
lucid haven
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Where do I spend them?

real creek
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You spend them at the vendor south of the heli pad at the whitehouse at a little table under an awning.

lucid haven
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At white house?

real creek
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Do you know where the heli pad is at the white house?

lucid haven
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Think so

real creek
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Go to the stairs for it like you are gonna go up top and turn directly right and walk forward.

quasi verge
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Not the helipad out front on the lawn. The one off to the right of the front entrance.

lucid haven
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AHH ok

real creek
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I forget there is the DLC heli pad out on the lawn, you never use it or go out there.

quasi verge
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I used it on my first character just to make the transition to New York so that the hours and hours the game wasted telling me about an urgent situation in New York were not wasted.

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And then it just map moved me without any cinematic or anything.

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So, bleh.

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WE DIDN'T EVEN CRASH!!

real creek
quasi verge
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Disappointing.

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On one character, yes.

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I have another ready to do Keener. and level locked at 40.

real creek
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Got builds going? Ready to run legendary, raids, and the incursion?

quasi verge
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My SHD character is running Summit so as to outfit everyone else.

real creek
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Should try countdown too. It's much MUCH more loot heavy.

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Plus you can buy exotic caches with the currency from it.

quasi verge
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Well so far I have at least 5 copies of one sets holsters, kneepads, and masks.

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So, I dunno about not getting enough loot. πŸ™‚

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Summits fun though. Once you've got the room layouts down, it's just a matter of figuring out how ot take that floors challenge apart efficiently.

lucid haven
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Defo suggest countdown, I went from farming summit to CD and it's more fun and faster

quasi verge
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Which is why I don't think 2.8 minutes a floor is too big a stretch.

lucid haven
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15 mins in countdown and u can have 10+ pieces

real creek
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You don't know if you'll like it until you try it but it's factual that countdown will give you more loot and you'll get tons of named items too.

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Personally summit solo is the biggest slog ever and even with a team it's not much better to me. Just how I feel about it.

vestal fossil
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summit just feels so slow

lucid haven
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I agree souless

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I ran summit trying to get a gun for over a week, 3 runs of count down and I got it

quasi verge
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Oh I'm not saying you're wrong. I'll get to countdown eventually. But right now I'm only on Summit 21 and I do intend to complete it and use it to outfit my other characters.

real creek
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Yeah do your floor 1-100, I have but idk maybe one day I'll go back to get commendations.

quasi verge
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There's a lot of this game I haven't done yet. I've only been at it about three weeks.

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318 hours so far.

lucid haven
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I'm 136h in

real creek
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Fiddle just enjoyed smelling the flowers and completes everything afaik, nothing wrong with that, I suggest everyone does the same to experince everything once at least.

quasi verge
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nods

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I have one character that does all the story stuff in order and checks everything out to see what it is like.

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All other characters head straight to what I liked most and do that.

swift mica
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i miss the voices from div 1, i feel like both the enemies and the safehouse jtf commanders just felt so alive with their voicelines
but now its the same guy for all of it and its boring

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they used to have personality but now it really doesnt feel like it

quasi verge
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There are things that I was disappointed about in the D2 New York that were in the bit of D1 I played.

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People leaning out of upper floor windows for one thing to yell at you or wanr you or whatever.

swift mica
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also theres no normal citizens anymore

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the npcs are either with you or against you no in between

quasi verge
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There is also, I have to say, a sense that the New York in D2 is much more.... thrown together rather than as polished as DC or even the first New York.

swift mica
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i think div 2 has better/more mechanics but the story and npcs or just the feel of the game as a whole is nowhere near div 1

quasi verge
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I hope D3 leans much more towards a city designed like D1 New York.

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By the way, does anyone think it might be set in St. Louis, what with that one bit of info about it being hit by a dirty bomb? Could be interesting playing in and around the big arch and so forth.

lucid haven
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11 striker drops from 1 room xD

swift mica
zinc shadow
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it would suck

quasi verge
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I don't think you can go outside of the US and stil lbe division...

lucid haven
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Would love to be a division agent exploring London not gonna lie

quasi verge
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You could maybe have a similar thing in a different country... Kingsmen... eh? eh?

zinc shadow
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more like dad's army

quasi verge
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Instead of masks everyone has an umbrella.

swift mica
vestal fossil
quasi verge
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Chimney sweeps. Have you not seen Mary Poppins?

swift mica
vestal fossil
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πŸ˜‚

lucid haven
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Raid boss, princess Diana xD she tries to ram u with a car haha

swift mica
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instead of hyenas the first faction would just be normal british citizens

vestal fossil
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with pocket knives

quasi verge
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You'd definitely bring back the round heads as a faction. Like the True Sons, except all about Cromwell.

swift mica
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cant forget the english longbow specialization

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load it with some exploding arrows like survivalist

quasi verge
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Longbow would be... man to man missiles.

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Anyway, fun to think about. I certainly don't know anything.

swift mica
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damnit i was looking at btsu wiki page to find out what a mini tank was for my spec research and i saw what happened to faye lau

quasi verge
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(Would a faction comprised of out of work cabbies be like the Cleaners?)

swift mica
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idk

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but the btsu would be run by jschlatt

zinc shadow
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I don't even know who that is

swift mica
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a youtuber

zinc shadow
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you ever been to London? it's a bit shit.

swift mica
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jschlatt killed the queen irl

quasi verge
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Alternately... one thing Div3 could do is put you in the role of one of the Rogues...

swift mica
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that would be fun

quasi verge
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It's a pretty standard third act move though, so maybe not.

swift mica
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thats a sick idea actually

twilit stag
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Screw Ouroboros, the real reason to farm incursion is the little wright Trophy πŸ₯Ή

real creek
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Oreo is my bb.

twilit stag
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I want the flawless mask but i dont think im good enough 😩

timber hatch
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Flawless is ultimately just down to getting a solid team together. Hardest part is kiting wright imo since wrights hotbox can be stupid at times

vestal fossil
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the other option is to do writh with tanky builds slower

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but who wants to do that

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watched a full solo flawless run today and its very impressive

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tanky adrenaline rush build vs wright with foam nades to lock him onto platform, and sticky to knock yourself out of pipe animation

real creek
timber hatch
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Home boy apparently didn't have a solid team...

timber hatch
vestal fossil
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very very impessive stuff

quasi verge
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Roughly how many Designated Hitters does everyone have now?

neon wyvern
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1

quasi verge
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Throw alot of them away did you?

neon wyvern
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yea

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my stash can enjoy the 1

quasi verge
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I'm saving all of them. Going to do a public art project with them when everything is back to normal.

neon wyvern
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it's probably not even in my stash anymore I have a 2nd character as a mule

kind veldt
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dumb question, did cleaners have granadiers in div 1?

zinc shadow
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yes

lucid haven
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I got my first +15% strikers from a drop

lucid haven
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My stats flip flopped DX

iron tide
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i cant equip this build it says my inv is full in have 16 of 150

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and my stash has like 40 space left

full zinc
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Check mods inventory

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You wont be able to switch if its full

iron tide
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oh thats

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thanks i mean not thats

rare vapor
stable jewel
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Hey guys, is there a way to change region? EU is quiet around this time.

rare vapor
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MM or join into someone of different region

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but it really doesn't do much for you. afaik, your MM is based on local region

reef reef
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@night isle Self promotion is not allowed.

stable jewel
fiery cloud
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Hey Sniper.wolf, Aspect

rare vapor
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div2salute yo

fiery cloud
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Got new job

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On break right now

rare vapor
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that's sweet. close to Xmas too eh

iron token
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there a way to get division resurgence on pc? or you need an emulator for it. cuz solidfps is playing on pc

vestal fossil
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prob just normal phone emulator

rare vapor
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lol i figured as a streamer he would of followed the rules

vestal fossil
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but no idea which one is best currently

iron tide
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the gun i have intrest in is the regulus the one from ironhorse

vestal fossil
rare vapor
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yes you can play it on pc via emulator, but it's not advised, as you are essentially "cheating"

iron tide
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feels like one of the most borderlands guns in the game how i see it

rare vapor
vestal fossil
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you can mirror your phone

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but it should be easy to spot if mirror or emulator

iron token
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yeah hes def using mouse and keyboard

rare vapor
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that's...not good

iron token
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as long as its not pvp i think its fine

rare vapor
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technically, it's not.

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depends on how ubi sees it. normally it's not allowed.

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unless it's in Microsoft store or something

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Resurgence has Conflict Domination and DZ PvP modes, i think as a Streamer one should not use emulator for mobile games with mouse and keyboard. Acting as an example in the community, it would be ill-advised and bad if they inspire more people to follow in their path and do the same, it will throw everything off. Afterall, emulator is seen as a "bypass", at least in the gaming scene, not if you use emulators to develop and code in mobile environments.

iron token
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to be fair ubisoft gave him streamer access. so they knew hed use mouse and keyboard

vestal fossil
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i know phone controlers exist but not kbm right?

rare vapor
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he always had streamer access, using emulator is not something he would sign with ubi for it, he did it on his own accord

vestal fossil
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damn it actually exists

iron token
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i mean you could technically use wireless mouse and keyboard via bluetooth. but hed be having alot of lag on pohone instea dof comp

vestal fossil
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tru

rare vapor
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how much of lag? for singleplayer games it's not an issue, but we are talking about an online game. for someone all about "skills", i wouldnt think a 300ms ping would be worth it on the phone.

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let alone streaming all that lag to the viewers

vestal fossil
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so iirc pubg mobile banned for controler/kbm usage

rare vapor
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ofc they did

vestal fossil
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its easy detectable

iron token
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pubg mobile is pvp mainly tho

vestal fossil
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phones tend to not have easy ways to bypass checks like pc cheats have

rare vapor
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most pvp centric mobile games have banned emulators/kb+m as it is detectable.

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also if you use emulators, you can inject cheats via mem, so thats a big NO for these game companies

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we'll see if Ubi also takes action for Resurgence

rare vapor
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hah, of course

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scripts is huge for emulation mobile gaming

iron token
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scripts are used for most pc games in general.

vestal fossil
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diablo 3 had that as a massive issue

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reading/writing into memory

iron token
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yeah 1 account does afk grinding and trades to main acct etc

vestal fossil
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yea

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im glad they instant ban hud in d4

rare vapor
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anyways, thats why emulation is not allowed for mobile online games

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the hud was weird for d4, isn't that just a replacer mod?

vestal fossil
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didnt rly look into it

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just saw alot of ban reports from players

iron token
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i never got into d4. i loved d3. rifts and grs were fun.

rare vapor
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what i know is that, there were mods that allow you to scroll back the camera way out in D4, which i agree its...not allowed

vestal fossil
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oh it was further then that

rare vapor
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just argue that it's for..."Photomode" petter

vestal fossil
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i ment like dev wise

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was close to having d4 loot filter before the players reported bans

rare vapor
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well...can't have an advantage without the devs knowing about it

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even having convenience...is an advantage

vestal fossil
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ye

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in d3 they were simply way to late to start enforcing

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so they just never did start

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its prob best for the game if they ban the use of emulator/controler

gleaming totem
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yo I need a bit of help. I completed my shields in Division 1 and I didn't get my rewards in Division 2, from what I can tell it's not a new thing. I opened a support ticket with Ubisoft and they asked me to list the items I'm missing, but I don't know their names. It's the 4th tier - the american flag backpack trophy, and taunting emote. if anyone can let me know what their exact names are I'd really appreciate it

tender wave
gleaming totem
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from what I can tell if you contact them they can add the items manually

tender wave
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They want to be careful about that, there'll be a deluge of players demanding their stuff

kind veldt
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oh yeah

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i totally didnt get my regulus, cna you just give me 5 to be sure?

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people abuse good faith

iron tide
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the whole point of loot is getting it by playing

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for me anyway whats the point

iron tide
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would be nice if you could use all exotics transmogs as some look cool together

twilit stag
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how do i have better rolls on my Striker Incursion/Raid Build than a SHD 2900 Player πŸ—Ώ

exotic blaze
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They probably don't use striker?

twilit stag
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At 2900 i will most likely have perfect god rolls for every single build in the game

vestal fossil
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i wont

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but then again its rly easy to farm good gear set pieces

exotic blaze
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Meh I'm 7000 and I had to optimize my striker because I always used hunter regulus and nego

vestal fossil
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2-5 cd runns to have a full gear set that needs less then 1 full optimize +-

exotic blaze
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Yea it doesn't take long, I just never bothered to use it

vestal fossil
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had to farm it up aswell few days ago

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i just always played normal full red brand sets

exotic blaze
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I was always using the regulus builds until ouro came out

vestal fossil
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regu headhunter is fun indeed

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i prefered the brand set one

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over hf

exotic blaze
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I use the brand for open world and hunter for missions

vestal fossil
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ye makes sense

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always nice to have good ranged dmg option in open world

dire flicker
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can you get damage to targets out of cover on pestilence

twilit stag
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i think it comes with both that and DTA, or at least mine does

small spear
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sorry for caps

kind veldt
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it's already the default bonus for LMGs

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you can roll it twice on a gun and old exotics have static rolls

full zinc
kind veldt
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well to be honest 90% of the time is people asking what flavour of sprinkles to use with striker

twilit stag
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just for the sake of optimization, is sokolov chest with obli better than a ceska chest? with ceska i waste 3% crit chance, go over the 60%

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with ouroboros i mean xD

opal radish
small spear
tropic breach
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games kinda laggy rn

vestal fossil
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with coyote

undone timber
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Oreo comes with a dumb amount of chc off the bat anyway

vestal fossil
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and full crit dmg mods and rolls on striker

twilit stag
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oh wow i always ignored burnout but this is great perfect on empty makes the gun a lot easier to shoot

rain sleet
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Anyone know why my game always starts so dim?

vestal fossil
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someone shot the lights out

heavy dirge
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question - is anyone who hasn't previously completed it able to start the general anderson manhunt from the legacy manhunt menu?

vestal fossil
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thats the countdown one right?

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i did that yesterday as 1st clear

heavy dirge
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yup

vestal fossil
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i started it from map

heavy dirge
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it says 'unavailable' to me on my other characters.

vestal fossil
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did you look at your map?

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is it yellow or white/gray

heavy dirge
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i don't have the icon on the map at all, just the regular countdown icon.

vestal fossil
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hmm can you try to resett world settings

kind veldt
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you have to reach certain season pass level to replay them

heavy dirge
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i've finished the season pass about a month ago

kind veldt
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other characters also?

heavy dirge
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season pass is account wide

kind veldt
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the level? huh didnt know since i dont have any alts

heavy dirge
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reset the world, still shows a padlock with 'undiscovered' on anderson

tropic breach
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omg what is going on why is it so lag and I get disconnected.

modern vapor
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that iron horse is not an easy raid

undone timber
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It is when everyone knows their job

modern vapor
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I never did it before first try few hours ago

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darkhours I have done 3 times now

low fulcrum
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is TD2 a good game?

reef reef
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Its a fairly grindy game but quite good

magic rock
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How to trigger ourobors

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perk

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I need status

reef reef
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You need to have a status applied to you.

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...And then reload. Theres little you can do to actually trigger it yourself apart from firing the foam launcher at your feet and waiting out the foam

magic rock
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Yes

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Weapon is amazing great fire rate

minor bluff
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Anyone doing the shd exposed event?

ionic bridge
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Does incursion chest reset weekly?

magic rock
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Did they remove striker

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Make

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Mask

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I got all gear sets except the mask

sterile ferry
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why would they removed striker mask wtf

magic rock
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I got it

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lol

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It took me 3 runs

dense shore
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Is it reset tonight?

sterile ferry
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weekly reset was around 23.5 hours ago

dense shore
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Dam I'm all late lmao

copper shoal
opal radish
iron tide
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trying to play the game but im stuck on looking for updated

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updates

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sorry patches

iron tide
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i was going to do a support based build for decent but glad i saw on a video that my stuff could get hacked

full zinc
blazing citrus
full zinc
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You get exposure and take extra damage. Cover to cover or melee transfers exposure and npc takes additional damage. It's a really easy global event to mitigate the negatives.

iron tide
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is there a reason why we cant do legendary in the world?

real creek
elfin hazel
#

would be a lot of effort to get it right

real creek
#

Everyone always talks about legendary open world and fighting white tusk and only them would be boring. If they made a legendary diff for all factions and put that into the open world now that would be cool. Give us some special named bosses that are similar to how the legendary bosses are and we'd be cooking.

iron tide
#

no the highest in world is heroic

hybrid ore
#

There is no Legendary any other faction apart from White Tusk.
So a "Legendary Cleaner" open world would just be an empty space.

kind veldt
#

and legendary has static spawns tailored to it

#

missions always have same wave of enemies in the same order

undone timber
#

Open world legendary would be chaos

opal radish
kind veldt
#

thats what i said?

opal radish
iron tide
#

man not being able to swap loadout due to a skill on cooldown sucks

undone timber
#

Damn chem launchers taking a year to cool off

iron tide
#

for me it was my reviver hive

opal radish
real creek
tender wave
nocturne cypress
#

What's that channel? I don't got access

undone timber
#

Because you're on Xbox lol

sterile ferry
#

you get no access cause you didnt select a PC roll

nocturne cypress
#

Ah

iron tide
#

i wonder what a whole party is like with all useing the turrets and drones is like

sick pine
#

Is it rare for enemies to drop exotic weapons from challenging countdown?

sick pine
#

Cs that’s what he dropped

real creek
#

Eh not really.

sick pine
#

What should I go in countdown to look for

iron tide
#

years ago when i wanted a bullet king just for my collection i never got it now i got 2 in like 1.3 days

sick pine
#

Like ars smgs etc

real creek
# sick pine Like ars smgs etc

If you are starting out I'd go for ARs, they are the best spot to start. You'll wanna keep an eye out for a bunch of them, Famas, C7, Police M4, Kingbreaker, and Elmo, preferably with DTTOOC but some of these you can roll it on.

sick pine
#

I have all of them

#

A couple of them

full zinc
grizzled heron
#

Hi

wet island
wet island
full zinc
small magnet
#

Curious...I see a number sometimes next to peoples' names with what looks like little white wings on either side of it. Is that a tracker, like how many hunters theyve killed or something?

small magnet
#

Ah, for guiding through raids and such I presume?

real creek
#

Just the general game.

#

It's the backup call thing.

#

You get backup calls and go help and get endorsements and after 15 you're rank 1 and then every 7 after you'll go up a rank.

visual orchid
#

Howdy friends can anyone help run a flawless incursion with me??? I have the builds on separate characters just need the people who also have the same goal to get the flawless run for the mask

kind veldt
#

should use lfg channel

full zinc
real creek
full zinc
#

nice, 13 weeks to get that sweet patch

real creek
#

I still consider going mad on them incursion runs. I've dropped from top 15 and am getting close to 20th on clears....

#

Would mess with my shepherd rank tho.

low fulcrum
#

TD2 looks really cool

real creek
low fulcrum
#

yeah

devout girder
#

Does anyone need to do the last 12 hunger mask?
I have the original first 12 need the others

humble lintel
#

Should i use my level 30 boost

#

πŸ€”

real creek
#

You can always roll a new character and run thru to get all the story.

humble lintel
real creek
# humble lintel for my level 30 boost?

You can have 4 characters and delete and remake them too. So if in the future you are like "aww shucks wish I didn't boost" you can just roll a new character and do a 1-40 story run.

humble lintel
#

ah

fiery cloud
#

Local, Souless, .drib, Rivens, Gogamer, Kettle,

pliant spruce
#

is there a benefit to having multiple 40 characters or are people just bored

real creek
humble lintel
#

i am tempted to use my level 30 boost

kind veldt
#

never bothered to ask teh specifics, when ypou say duplicated you mean the points in scavenger or all levels are turned into points again?

wise wigeon
#

wait lvl 30 boost are not limited correct?

humble lintel
devout girder
wise wigeon
#

Once i used the boost on one of the character then i cannot use it for other new character i make in future

pliant spruce
#

do diff chars get their own weekly quest or is that tied to account?
for example the donation weekly for exotic cache

low fulcrum
#

im buying TD2 along with ghost recon breakpoint & wildlands

real creek
kind veldt
#

one good game, one meh game, other kinda bad game

low fulcrum
kind veldt
#

wildlands is meh

#

breakpoint is kinda bad

low fulcrum
#

yeah

real creek
#

Wildland with the active camo backpack is stupid, breakpoint is made better by really messing with the diff settings and both games are made better by not flying.

kind veldt
#

breakpoint had to go through many changes to be decent as wildlands

#

still curious if what were their plans for other raids

real creek
dire flicker
#

does the negotiators set apply everyone that hits the marked targets damage or is it just yours?

real creek
dire flicker
#

i know how the set works but i asked the question wrong. for marked targets is it only my crits that get shared or if someone else in my team hits a crit does their damage get shared too

real moth
#

Only your crits work on your marks

kind veldt
#

only your crits

pliant kernel
#

Hi all

iron tide
#

what is the best place to farm fro a 1886?

real creek
iron tide
#

as for location?

real creek
#

Uhhh where targeted loot is?

#

You can select it in summit/countdown tho.

#

But if you'd like one right away go to the clan vendor.

iron tide
#

not in a clan

#

i was years ago but i stoped playing for years

real creek
#

Go to theater settlement then.

#

If you want the named 1886 you can go to DZ west vendor too.

iron tide
#

thanks

quasi verge
#

Is there a resource for looking up a particular "trigger" and seeing what gears, skills, and so forth interact with it?

real creek
quasi verge
#

nods

#

I thought that might be the case.

modern vapor
#

who can you 1 shot in raids ?

real creek
modern vapor
real creek
#

Ehhh idk about that.

#

BLB is typically used there and you'll hit for almost 300 mil.

#

Pretty common to do that for buddy lucy tho.

modern vapor
#

yeh I don’t remember the exact amounts but it definitely 1 hit

real creek
#

Yeah it's just 1 shot on boomer requires a lot more, like ALOT more.

#

So seeing boomer one shots in pub games doesn't happen anymore really.

real creek
modern vapor
#

I did see it happen in a video but it must have been a long time back

real creek
#

Year 1 you just needed to sync two shots at like 22 mil and you'd kill boomer and it was easy to do in pubs.

quasi verge
real creek
# quasi verge Looking at Pulse.

Pulse and spotter is super good, tech gives you a long gun attachment that pulses anyone you point your gun at and it works super well with flatline.

quasi verge
#

I just did a search of the spreadsheet for every occurance and have a sort of list now.

quasi verge
#

@real creek What has taken me some time to work out is how you get "Pulse". I know it is an effect like Bleed or Burn, but it was escaping me how you Pulsed someone.

real creek
quasi verge
real creek
#

No, it actually doesn't add you any damage unless it's OC or you are using talents that give damage to pulsed enemies.

quasi verge
#

Well that's saved me a costly mistake.

real creek
#

lol

iron tide
#

how do i change a guns tallent i forgot

#

im 70% sure i could

#

oh i see i cant do what i just did

#

oh apparently i have never got a determined

#

i have 2 guns called m44 classic and the other one witch one can have it?

#

nvm got it

neon wyvern
#

petter β €

iron tide
#

now i need to get it for rifles

#

can i not put determined on 1886 does it need to drop with it or can i put it on at the bench

broken solstice
#

you can put it on you 1886 if you have determined for rifles in your library

iron tide
#

can any crafted rifle roll it or do i need a certain one?

broken solstice
#

yeah it can come on a crafted rifle

iron tide
#

just got it thanks

#

now i can work on getting one with it alreadty rolled

iron tide
#

aww man dont have 150% headshot dmg only have 122.8

#

im guessing i cant reset my watch

#

i mean repsec

broken solstice
#

actually you might be able to but i dont know how and i think it costs you a good amount of credits or something

iron tide
#

im close to caped on credits

#

oh no

#

lol only 904k i thought the cap was 1m

frozen meadow
#

What's happening

broken solstice
#

im trying to remember if you have the option to respec the points on your shd watch before its complete

iron tide
#

need to work out what lv i need to be to get 50 points in headshot tho i think i might have 19 in now

real creek
iron tide
#

dotn think im good enough for this build

#

its fun tho

lucid haven
#

So doing open world stuff is the best way to level?

shrewd cosmos
#

I chase heroic 5 directive hostage events personally

frozen meadow
shrewd cosmos
#

Yeah that works too πŸ™‚

lucid haven
#

I'm at shd 84 and trying to grind so people stop kicking me from stuff

frozen meadow
#

Understandable

vestal fossil
lucid haven
#

Also having issues nailing my build down

iron tide
#

i watched a vid recently about how low SHD does nor always mean they are new or a noob due to the fact they could have been the best player in the world pre SHD and only just come back and even when thats nto the case there has been many times when you have been able to trick the system to gain

#

if they have watch 1000+ does not mean they are good at the game or even have 100s of hrs in it

lucid haven
#

I know zashk. But getting kicked cos someon sees low shd is annoying af

iron tide
#

i know i was just making a point that you should not kick based on it

vestal fossil
#

i can understand it for raid, incursion, legendary mm ingame

exotic blaze
lucid haven
#

Striker build with st elmos

iron tide
#

tbf i would not want randoms for that contant anyway if i where to do it

exotic blaze
#

Yeah nothing wrong with it, that sucks

dapper sapphire
#

What should be the first build to farm (I just reached lvl 40)?

vestal fossil
#

if you want to also do grp play i would suggest striker setup

dapper sapphire
vestal fossil
dapper sapphire
vestal fossil
#

oh but look for y5 s2

#

which is current patch

#

so you cant run into problems due to patch changes

dapper sapphire
lucid haven
#

I'm really conflicted. I love this build cos it does tons of damage. But it's not my playstyoe DX

iron tide
#

its a shame there is only 1 50 cal that i know of

#

i love its sound and feel

vestal fossil
iron tide
#

the nemisis is nto a 50 cal is iut?

vestal fossil
#

only tac 50 is right?

iron tide
#

send link to chat theres a chat?

vestal fossil
#

and nemesis is silenced so its a "pew" anyway

lucid haven
vestal fossil
#

then you can also look into high end red

#

are you using striker chest?

#

couse thats only good in certain situations

lucid haven
#

Striker either other than ceska gloves and coyotes mask

small spear
#

that's striker chest

lucid haven
#

Yeah

#

Strikers everything*

vestal fossil
#

for most content it i wouldnt do striker chest

lucid haven
#

What would u recommend?

vestal fossil
#

swap the pieces

#

ceska or grupo chest, with elmo i use ceska

#

either unbreakable for safeplay or obliterate for dmg

lucid haven
#

Would it be worth swapping out coyotes for memento?

#

I want to add some skill damage in but idk how to make that work

vestal fossil
#

solo for missions or open world its fine

#

in grp, momento isnt that great

small spear
#

hybrid-ing into skill damage isn't that great if you want to mainly do weapon damage

lucid haven
#

I want to do full skill but I can't find a build to make it work. Tried the turret drone one from spreadsheet but I don't like what they did to drone ai

vestal fossil
#

the only rly good skill builds i would say is around oxidizer

#

in terms of dmging

small spear
#

that's the tradeoff for turret drone yeah, you can't deal as much damage as you can with a weapon damage build which is a very very reasonable tradeoff

you can go oxidizer, burn, or utility with foam and EMP

lucid haven
#

I want to add oxidiser to current build. But I'd have to give up shield which is the only source of survivability I have

small spear
#

oxidizer is only used when you can make your targets stay still or you're spawncamping. other than that it's very niche

iron tide
#

im guessing there is not a place for gear system mod farm is their?

vestal fossil
#

countdown

lucid haven
#

Countdown. Set gear mods as target

iron tide
#

any solo stuff?

lucid haven
#

Not really any efficient wants

small spear
#

summit also works for solo

vestal fossil
#

summit but thats alot less drops

iron tide
#

not seeing the gear mods option

lucid haven
#

Honestly zashk jump into a challenging countdown. As long as u don't get kicked. Follow the group and let them carry u. U get tons

#

"skill attachments"

iron tide
#

oh nvm found it

lucid haven
#

2nd row 1 from end

vestal fossil
#

summit is prob less then half the drop amount of countdown

iron tide
#

just want to try to get 3 10% headshot dmg mods

small spear
#

gear system mods are different from skill attachments

lucid haven
#

Ohhh sorry I mis read

small spear
#

it's the option right next to skill attachments in the targeted loot table

iron tide
#

so i want gear for headshot dmg?>

small spear
#

depends on what you're going for

iron tide
#

i just said what im going for

lucid haven
#

If headshot damage is Ur primary buff. Get gear with high headshot damage. Then get mods to add. Make sure Ur gear has highest stat possible

full zinc
#

i think thats the idea

iron tide
#

no im asking what loot otion for headshot mods

#

skill or gear

small spear
#

i mean what your general build archetype is, what kind of weapon you're using, what kind of damage you're dealing, etc.

#

then gear system mods

iron tide
#

thanks

small spear
#

but headshot damage comes from both gear and mods

iron tide
#

im talking about those items that you add to gear

kind veldt
#

i think AA, providence and gear sets are the main sources of headshot damage?

small spear
#

you need both gear that rolls with headshot damage and mods that give headshot damage

#

so basically farm both

kind veldt
#

drunk punch named mask has unique headshot roll

iron tide
#

im just looking for the mods

undone timber
#

What build are you running

full zinc
iron tide
#

just a fun build to mess around with while i max out some items

small spear
#

if you mean optimizing and you're new to the game then i don't recommend optimizing at this stage as it costs a lot of resources, farming will give you higher rolls

#

as for progression for new players farming for the correct gear is much easier than farming for mods

#

these questions we're asking are mostly helping you not waste time, not to be nosey

full zinc
#

i think i get my best mods out of proficiency caches tbh

iron tide
#

when i mean max out i dont mean min max i just mean do something while im doing something

small spear
#

then the second part of my advice applies, farm for gear instead

#

farming for mods IS minmaxing

iron tide
#

i have the gear

#

thats why i asked what i asked

small spear
#

how high are the rolls

undone timber
#

Just post your build in build advice

iron tide
#

high enough for the mode im on

small spear
#

go into countdown, you already said you selected gear system mods and start matchmaking for challenging

#

that should be your litmus test

iron tide
#

aww punchdunk didnot give me any more dmg than what i was already using

#

both are 2.8m

undone timber
#

On a headshot?

iron tide
#

oh there was a dmg cap of the target

undone timber
#

What are you running Bruh

iron tide
#

9.8m now

#

a old build

#

i just wanted to see what the old one did vs any new one i try

#

is there a way to get special ammo for the training range?

#

must be some cap on this dmg too as my 1886 does the same amount of dmg as my tac60

#

50

timber hatch
lucid haven
#

I wish I could get oroborus DX

iron tide
#

thats a pain shame you dont get to test it without using stuff you gathered

#

when i was playing with my rocket launcher thing i tried using it 3 times all missed

#

is it me or is all of the ones that tell the last bullet dmg on the range caped and if so whats the point

shrewd cosmos
iron tide
#

its caped at 9.894m it seems

#

when it should be 14.3m blue what ever blue dmg means

ruby comet
#

i hope Ouroboros will go into the general lootpool next season

midnight lotus
#

I might be wrong on this so someone correct me if its the case

midnight lotus
iron tide
#

what is a incursion?

midnight lotus
#

Would be dumb if they fumble it like ravenous and eagle burger

midnight lotus
#

Its like an easier raid

iron tide
#

ah

#

not done that not done a lot of things

midnight lotus
#

Take your time

iron tide
#

done a bit of dark zone but i hate pvp done 1000-2000 floors of summit and no raids or count thing or incursion

low fulcrum
#

gonna play D2

gleaming meadow
#

does the incursion box reset every tuesday or 1 week from when u last open it? Cuz i just ran it twice with my main and secondary char and didnt get keys on either

vestal fossil
#

fixed day

#

got keys on sunday and today

gleaming meadow
#

didnt play yesterday and i didnt get keys todayπŸ˜”

iron tide
#

how do i get rid of the new locations avalable at heli?

frozen meadow
#

I don't think you can

mighty shell
iron tide
#

but its like 5 things do i need to go to all of them?

iron tide
#

rank 10 items whats that?

spiral hedge
#

Guys i want to know something

#

When you upgrade weapon damage does it can decrease damage?

#

My lady death, the damage was around 58k damage and after I upgrade the weapon, it decrease into 56.7k

#

How is that possible?

#

The 58k damage is my 2nd upggade, then for my 3rd upgrade it become 56.7k

reef reef
#

did you change anything else?

spiral hedge
#

No

#

I just upgrade it

#

I change nothing

reef reef
#

i never really trust the damage numbers the UI shows anyways Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

kind veldt
#

what were you using?

#

possible some other buff inthe background like a striker stack or someone's else buff was active

dense shore
#

Ngl these venders right now are peak fr πŸ—Ώ

spiral hedge
#

It lady death exotic smg

#

I just upgrade

#

And it decrease

kind veldt
#

i mean sets, talents

#

did you forget you had a drone with you and was using companion talent for example

spiral hedge
#

No

#

I upgrade in the white house

low fulcrum
#

is the Div2 season pass worth it

kind veldt
#

your talents, your equipament, what were you using in the gear slot

spiral hedge
#

How can I send pic?

#

Lemme send you in private chat

kind veldt
#

you can send them in this channel

reef reef
# low fulcrum is the Div2 season pass worth it

theres 2 technically, one that gives access to all the specializations when you get access to them, and one that is the paid tier of the battle pass. the first one is decent & lets you use Firewall/Gunner/Technician instantly when you get to the world tiers, the second is meh

frozen meadow
reef reef
#

they are both called pass and are regularly confused

frozen meadow
#

Eh

#

Id disagree on the regularly confused part

reef reef
#

ok!

frozen meadow
#

Why the exclamation point lol

dapper atlas
#

I feel like people are confused about there being a free tier and suddenly they hear about "having to pay" for the season pass. So they are confused why they suddenly have to pay for it when it's supposed to be free.

reef reef
frozen meadow
#

It makes u seem enthusiastic which confuses the hell out of me lol

#

@neon wyvern hear me out ok

#

Okay so

#

That raid I've been designing

neon wyvern
#

🐌

frozen meadow
#

Purple hunter heavies

#

That are immune to sweet dreams

neon wyvern
#

Wrights brothers?????

reef reef
#

And also because i know a few people who have asked about the "pass" and then we try explaining the season pass, just for them to be talking about the year1 pass. so i explain both!

frozen meadow
#

No purple enemies

#

So no PFE

neon wyvern
#

incursion turret treatment

frozen meadow
#

Ye

neon wyvern
#

D:

frozen meadow
#

I have the best ideas

reef reef
#

i see this mission is just "how do we make regular players hate this and game developers wonder about our choices"

frozen meadow
#

Nah each boss will drop 50 items per day

#

:3

reef reef
#

That doesnt change that the mission seems specially designed for people to hate.

neon wyvern
#

average top .01% playerbase content

reef reef
#

This is why we have gamedev schools

#

Because designing anything for the top .01 percent is going to be wasted devtime

frozen meadow
#

Nah what I'm thinking is

#

It's 0.1% that can clear it but majority of players can attempt and get rewards for doing so

#

Like.some other MMO raids

neon wyvern
#

yeah all you gotta do is kill the first boss that has no mechanics to get 50 equipment drops

frozen meadow
#

Nah there's still mechanics

#

Also there's no "first boss" because it's non-linear

neon wyvern
#

nah we doing lieutenant gray treatment

reef reef
#

yeah, i still cant get behind this

frozen meadow
#

Nah that's too obvious

#

The idea is that you can't just gun your way into the complex

#

Cuz y'know, that's not how it works irl

frozen meadow
reef reef
#

I find it dumb.

frozen meadow
#

Why 😭

#

This is bullying /j

reef reef
#

Making anything for the top .01 percent is incredibly dumb from a gamedev standpoint, and introducing gimmicks is not good for the game, even if it is only for one mission. If it was just a moderately hard mission then its whatever, but this has devolved into "how do we make a mission that div players will hold over eachothers heads"

#

All in all i dont really care, but i find it dumb.

frozen meadow
#

The idea is that the best will get the furthest

reef reef
#

The best will get the furthest = the rest of the playerbase has an impossible mission

dire ravine
#

Sounds sick to me

frozen meadow
#

It's not impossible if it can be done

dire ravine
#

I like a challenge

frozen meadow
#

It means everyone has a goal to achieve

#

Nobody will be satisfied

dapper atlas
#

That mechanic is kinda in both games already, isn't it? Like, not in a mission, but Descent and Resistance... Both are "the best will get the furthest", or not? bingT

frozen meadow
neon wyvern
frozen meadow
reef reef
#

You've repeatedly said "for the top .01 percent" that means the rest of the playerbase, IE 99.99 of the playerbase, will not be able to finish. Every MMO and every mission based FPS has this problem. You can have the hard stuff, but making it explicitly for the """most hardcore""" is just going to be a waste of time if only 10 people can complete it

#

I'm all for harder stuff, i do day1 raids in Destiny with a group of friends, i do hard stuff in games all the time. But a "99.99% of people will never see the end" is not how you retain players in anything

frozen meadow
#

I mean none of the things I've mentioned here so far are particularly like, "impossible"

#

It just takes more than screaming and guns blazing

reef reef
#

ok!

neon wyvern
#

i wish we had music at the last part of legendary missions

frozen meadow
neon wyvern
#

Emptying 90 mags into "xb55-crusader" with no tunes is awkward

frozen meadow
#

Lol

#

Wait

#

Is there any room in the game with more than 4 named enemies at once?

neon wyvern
#

Lincoln memorial invaded

frozen meadow
#

Isn't that 4

neon wyvern
#

idk

frozen meadow
#

Pretty sure it is lol

#

Anyways new idea for this raid

#

When you go to fight mcmanus

#

It's like

#

One boss bar
(Wait a second)
Two boss bar
(Wait a second)
Three boss bar
....
....
Sixteen boss bar

neon wyvern
frozen meadow
#

Isnt that four too

neon wyvern
#

No it's 5

frozen meadow
#

Ah

neon wyvern
#

same with 100 floor summit

neon wyvern
#

5 hunters(perfectly balanced btw)

frozen meadow
#

Nah

neon wyvern
#

πŸ›Œ

frozen meadow
#

Have you played Zelda TOTK

neon wyvern
#

no

frozen meadow
#

Ah

#

Well the boss bar after the first phase just goes past the boss bar

#

That's what I'm trying to mimick

neon wyvern
#

lol

frozen meadow
#

The idea that it just completely shatters limitations

#

The "WHAT THE FUCK WHEN WILL IT END" mentality

neon wyvern
#

one shot this b####

#

16 health bars

frozen meadow
#

Nope 16 named enemies I meant

#

I meant literally 16 bosses

neon wyvern
#

D:

frozen meadow
#

Lol

neon wyvern
#

I need a 1 entrance room and this another easy W for scorpiopetter

frozen meadow
#

You're fighting the boss of bosses

frozen meadow
#

Lol

neon wyvern
#

β €

frozen meadow
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The idea is that it's mechanically not cheesable

neon wyvern
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nvm it's a raid we can probably have a 3 entrance roompetter

frozen meadow
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No

neon wyvern
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and 5 scorpios

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easiest pve content of my careerπŸ₯±

frozen meadow
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You forgot something

neon wyvern
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haz pro countermeasure u right

frozen meadow
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No

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Being forced into the center of an empty room and being bombshelled from the outsides

neon wyvern
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alright the only winning strat is to dch all 16 bosses then

neon wyvern
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wait .2 seconds

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kill with sleigher

frozen meadow
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Lol what

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Nah mate there's OSP

neon wyvern
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weird kind of one shot protectionbrucequote

frozen meadow
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Trust me there ain't no cheese method

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  • this will be already at least 40 minutes into the mission
elfin hazel
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just because its technically possible doesn't make it not practically impossible

unique summit
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i love it

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but there needs to be a way to do it that takes longer but doesn't require fully optimized gear/tactics

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for example a button that stuns them all but regens some of their armor or something

elfin hazel
# elfin hazel just because its technically possible doesn't make it not practically impossible

a beat saber map comes to mind (gh8st) technically yes its beatable and therefore not impossible but you ask basically anyone to do it and they'll say no that's impossible because its still practically impossible for anybody BUT the absolute top players you don't make stuff in your games for something only a handful of players can do (in the case of gh8st only 5 people) because its just not fun or accessible for the majority of the playerbase

finite mortar
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quick question what does "pending shepherd vote in social" mean?

elfin hazel
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if you want to endorse the person who joined from calling backup or not

sterile ferry
unique summit
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poor guy is like "where's my endorsement?" lol

finite mortar
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hmm but i have nothing on my screen like press Z or Y

elfin hazel
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its in the social tab when you press escape and hover over their name

finite mortar
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i see i thought it only pop op on screen thanks agents ❀️

elfin hazel
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sometimes it doesn't for whatever reason

dense shore
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I swear vendors today gave it good this week, the Gift, and Matador πŸ—Ώ

finite mortar
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also is there way to see how much endorsement you personally got?

unique summit
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to get your first sheperd rank you need 15 endorsements i think

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you can see it on the "SHD" tab when you open the map

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after that it's 7 endorsements per sheperd rank

finite mortar
unique summit
astral notch
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what is best value for global event cache??

low fulcrum
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im buying this game tomorrow

low fulcrum
pliant sentinel
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bruh

low fulcrum
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?

hybrid ore
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Well support is over for both so I guess pick whichever one you like the look of.

hybrid ore
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Grats. You'll find more people online for div2 as its still supported with updates and such, but div1 is a lot of fun still.

dry ridge
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anyone on td2 wanna do the last 10 floors of summit with me? hoping to have at least a 3 man team on heroic for floor 100

blazing citrus
fluid meadow
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And survival is pretty damn nice

iron tide
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is the game to scale with dc?

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i mean prob not right?

fluid meadow
iron tide
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and its buildings roads parks courts everything

fluid meadow
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It's got tall buildings and sewer systems

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I'd call verticality

full zinc
fluid meadow
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And the dz layout is simply better

iron tide
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looking at W DC in google earth its not the same

full zinc
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You feel like you're in a city but I wouldn't put it anywhere close to scale

blazing citrus
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They will just be a single building with 1 road wrapping around it

fluid meadow
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At this point just add the conflict maps to the dz

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They're interesting at least

iron tide
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i think if you had played div 2 then went to dc without any other info on where things where you would be better off than not playing div 2

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like a rough idea

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2 games im looking forward to is div 3 and state of decay 3

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both are prob a good 3+ years out

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i never played div1 and i dont know when i started playing 2 but i think the warlords was out when i started

unique summit
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i see what they were trying to do though

iron tide
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does NY have dark zones never looked

unique summit
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naw

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i mean div1 has dark zones and that's ny

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but not div2 ny

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er... dark ZONE... there's only one and it's awesome

iron tide
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i do like the pve aspects of DZ but i hate pvp

unique summit
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i remember the very first time i walked into the dark zone in div1. such a concept never really existed in games. it was SO COOL.

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issac used his serious voice and you put on your mask, so cool

iron tide
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do i need a mic for raids/countdowns?

real creek
iron tide
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not deaf or mute i just not a fan of talking

dapper sapphire
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Recalibration library, should I focus on getting it maxed out asap?

hybrid ore
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This is the order I recommend you use loot in, so tl;dr yes.
Keep if needed > Recal Library > Expertise > Junk > Sell.

iron tide
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how much does a boost does max proficient give

hybrid ore
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Having Proficiency in an item doesn't give you any boost, you need to add "Expertise" to that item once it's rank 10 Proficiency.

iron tide
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ah

hybrid ore
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It's very much not mandatory for PvE though, just a nice bonus.

iron tide
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think i only have 1 item at 10

hybrid ore
twilit stag
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i donated everything i got from like 10 countdown runs

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didnt get a single expertise level πŸ’€

full zinc
# twilit stag i donated everything i got from like 10 countdown runs

20 donations per weapon/named item , 100 donations per gear or brand set. target weapons for fastest results. you can also craft items to donate. youll get an easy 60 levels towards next expertise level by crafting 20 each for all improvised pieces, just make sure to save any really good improvised knee/holster/glove because crafting is always kinda trash

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purchasing/donating from a vendor is also a fairly cheap way if raising expertise

kind veldt
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also buy named items from vendors

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easy way to max one item

twilit stag
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is the damage bonus from expertise the same as a red core, if i get expertise to 15 on a weapon would that be like an extra red core but only for that weapon?

real creek
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Expertise really shouldn't be a focal point of your gameplay, just a thing you contribute to when loot dumping.

real creek
twilit stag
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Yes but i want to make ouro even better div2flex

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There's no such thing as enough Damage with Ouroboros 😌

real creek
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That's DPS loss you can control.

opal radish
twilit stag
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60% Accuracy probably still beats Elmo tbh

opal radish
twilit stag
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on the incursion i dont feel like im fighting things at super long ranges almost never, first part with the towers at most, maybe very last part if you stay at the entrance

timber hatch
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I find my accuracy higher with ouroboros because the burst is so high as long as my aim is good at the start they are dead before they can move anywhere.

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The ouroboros rewards accuracy and punishes inaccuracy more than anything other than regulus imo

twilit stag
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I still need to work towards Regulus πŸ₯Ή i already got into a clan so hopefully i can raid, i only need like 3 raids to complete it

real creek
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With a proper striker build at stacks you can 1 mag 2 enemies, more damage can accomplish this too as expertise helps increase your damage per bullet but if you shoot corpses and miss a lot you'll miss out on DPS running to the ammo box and reloading more than you need to.

real creek
timber hatch
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Clans runs are super hit and miss. So many are super insular and don't use/know about up to date starts since they only play within their own small group

weak flame
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Same. The only weapon I want from IH is the Regulus for HH memes, but I need people willing to teach mechanics and actually play the raid.

real creek
weak flame
full zinc
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man, the cost to make items proficient is really high πŸ€”
i was just putting some numbers together and its pretty staggering... this is for everything

The true cost of proficiency to hit expertise 24
(usage obviously lowers cost)

weapons - 4340 donated items - 65,100 shd points - 651,000 printer filament.
named/ exo - 1320 donated items - 19,800 shd - 198,000 printer filament.
brandsets - 2800 donation items - 8400 shd - 84,000 printer filament.
gear sets - 1800 donated items - 5400 shd - 54,000 printer filament.
skills/spec -no donations - 14,100 shd - 141,000 printer filament

real creek
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"oh what do I do with all my maxed out mats!!"-community probably
"well lets give them a mats sink"-random dev probably

full zinc
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fr, thats over 112k shd . thats a lot of wony runs

real creek
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Yeah but most take care of a large portion by using items and donating. I've never done a WONY for filament and I'm 19 3/4 expertise. How do I perform with a few items at 10-15 expertise? Just fine man. It's not needed, it's a crazy pipe dream for most or you do a ton of WONY runs.

timber hatch
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Realistically it'll be lower than that though since you don't need to donate points for everything. Most efficient way is to buy what's sold from vendors each week and craft everything your able to craft and max everything available that way. Spend points on exotics and skills you'll never use and that combined donating junk and just using different gear will get you 15+ pretty easily. And past roughly 15, especially past 20, is pretty meaningless

full zinc
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ofc, but this puts a raw number on it

timber hatch
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I think I maxed everything with roughly 25-30k points, not sure on the exact number, but it was far under 100k

full zinc
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and not even including upgrade costs πŸ˜‚

timber hatch
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The upgrading costs are my main problem with the experience system... That and it being active in pvp

opal radish
opal radish
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Also weapons have it easy 20pcs and you are efficient