nope. its up
#td2-general-chat
full zinc
oak prawn
The game delta on me just as i was about to log off so for once the game helped🤣
stable creek
ya i think it is ubi the Program wont load atm
kind veldt
it's giving instant lost connection?
stable creek
ya
surreal mica
i havent played in a while, can someone explain a few things for me?
stable creek
whats up
oak prawn
i havent played in a while, can someone explain a few things for me?
what ya need explained?
calm portal
Question, is the ouroboros a common drop or do you have to get lucky?
stable creek
u half to do new mission
oak prawn
its not a common drop
surreal mica
is gear score gone? and world tier? im lvl 40 but some of my gear says lvl 40 rank2
oak prawn
1% from bosses 10% from the chezt
stable creek
then u hav 10% chance
calm portal
1% from bosses 10% from the chezt
Thank you
surreal mica
gear score is gone for lv31+
thank you, so all lvl 40 gear is the same?
small spear
yes, gear score is a misleading metric anyway
calm portal
How do I unlock incursions?
reef reef
buy and finish Warlords of New York and they should be up and ready as soon as you come back from NY
(i advise against going right for the incursion, get a decent damage build going and then try it out)
calm portal
buy and finish Warlords of New York and they should be up and ready as soon as y...
I’ve finished warlords, but I don’t see incursions anywhere
reef reef
look on the left side of the DC map, you'll see a "Meret Estate" or "Paradise Lost"
calm portal
I only see raids on left side of map
magic atlas
top left
reef reef
send me a screenshot of your map
calm portal
Do I have to finish meret estate before the other one will show up?
reef reef
meret estate and paradise lost are the same
there is only one incursion in the game currently, i realize how my initial message could make it seem like there are multiple
calm portal
Ahh okay, thank you clearing everything up. Now I gotta make a build so I can attempt the incursion
reef reef
4pc striker w/bag coyote's mask ceska chest with obliterate, or 4pc striker with bag and chest and a ceska small piece are the two i've seen the most in the incursion
calm portal
I have 4 piece striker, currently trying to get momento bag or coyote, but as for weapons I’m running st elmo and a ump. Should I swap the ump to a white death?
reef reef
...no, not really
calm portal
Or should I focus more on crit rate/damage?
reef reef
crit rate and damage, yeah
calm portal
Gotcha
wintry wraith
Use diamond back, ull never have to build crit again lol
reef reef
strikers is a very good set but it can feel very bad if you arent playing into its strengths- stacking and just shooting all the time
reef reef
Use diamond back, ull never have to build crit again lol
dont do this
calm portal
I don’t even have diamond back
reef reef
I'm like 99% sure the Striker build in the spreadsheet (pinned in #td2-build-advice) explains everything
calm portal
Thank you, I’ll check it out. But would you recommend coyote or momento for st elmo? Or just try get both
reef reef
coyote's 1000%
calm portal
Gotcha, I’ll start focusing masks
reef reef
memento is not great for a striker setup because you have to go grab the tokens on kills, and strikers is best when all redcore so you'll be shot to shreds if you try
calm portal
I’m guessing momento is better for a up close shotgun build
undone timber
I’m guessing momento is better for a up close shotgun build
Correct
calm portal
Thank you
pliant sentinel
is vigilance good for johnson/martinez?
undone timber
is vigilance good for johnson/martinez?
Run strikers instead
frosty wadi
vigilance better than striker bag 🤔
The perk wouldn’t even be active for over half the damage phase
If at all
calm portal
Last question for strikers set, do you want all offensive? Or some skill/defensive?
undone timber
vigilance better than striker bag 🤔
If you're tryna DPS the boss just run 4 pc striker with the chest and bag
pliant sentinel
yeah i asked this guy to switched to bag and he got really mad
undone timber
Running strikers without the bag is strange
pliant sentinel
he said his vigilance can drop dudes in the dz
ornate nova
Wouldn’t recommend striker for pvp lol unless you can engage immediately after or during a landmark you won’t build enough stacks to outperform other builds
pliant sentinel
🤔
frosty wadi
The incursion isn’t dz
hearty briar
Dudes in DZ also don’t have 150mil Hp in armour
pliant sentinel
first time i saw someone this mad over a suggestion tbh
wet island
Any1 else players ended up with red hands some reason? I got blue gloves and still got red hands smh
Just strange lol
livid pollen
Could someone please help me complete this weeks Captiol building legendary mission?
untold horizon
Running strikers without the bag is strange
The striker bag?
pliant sentinel
yeah the striker bag
i saw a grupo with vigilance for final boss and im kinda intrigued tbh
kind veldt
vigilance is overall good for regular content
real creek
i saw a grupo with vigilance for final boss and im kinda intrigued tbh
Bag with vigi is better at low stacks, worse at full stacks.
kind veldt
incursion you will be squeezing every instance of DPS you can at max to full stacks so it less so
frosty wadi
Thing is tho in the final boss stage using it might as well be worthless because taking any damage disables it
pliant sentinel
Thing is tho in the final boss stage using it might as well be worthless because...
thats what im sayin
pliant sentinel
incursion you will be squeezing every instance of DPS you can at max to full sta...
but wont martinez do dmg to u alot during dps phase
twilit stag
If healers are capable of keeping a whole team alive, are they immortal while solo? c:
kind veldt
well thats what i mean that vigilance is less relevant in incursion
vigilance is less relevant if you can keep max stack which are really easy in incursion at DPS phase on bosses
pliant sentinel
p easy to stack off martinez fatass body
pliant sentinel
well thats what i mean that vigilance is less relevant in incursion
ty tho i just wanna make sure cause he was p mad about it when i told him
kind veldt
np, since i'm just playing something else i kinda wrote in a rush
man i used tips the other with flamethrower
thought that maybe with the talent that buffs the damage and more ammo every third kill you could make is sustainable
nope, still bad and made me sad
calm portal
What’s the easiest way to increase my crit chance?
reef reef
...SHD watch?
kind veldt
farming gear, mods and weapon attachments
calm portal
...SHD watch?
Oh, didn’t know that
kind veldt
bunch of brands give CHD and CHC
reef reef
otherwise its just your gear that increases crit chance
10% from watch when that part is maxed,
calm portal
For strikers, should I be aiming for core attribute: weapon damage, attributes as crit chance and damage? Or can only 1 roll at a time?
wet island
Can a gun play into that if it has crit chance or that specifically for the gun itself
pliant sentinel
wpn dmg, crit dmg
calm portal
wpn dmg, crit dmg
Add crit chance via mods?
wet island
wpn dmg, crit dmg
Do you need crit chance with those two for high end or no?
pliant sentinel
u can get both crit dmg and chance on a high-end but not on a gearset
calm portal
And if I’m aiming for coyote which 4 striker pieces should I aim for?
oak prawn
And if I’m aiming for coyote which 4 striker pieces should I aim for?
Holster gloves bp kneepads
oak prawn
Grupo or cezka with GC or olberiate
pliant sentinel
gc?
oak prawn
Glass cannon
pliant sentinel
absolutely not, do obliterate
oak prawn
Way to ruin my fun remi
pliant sentinel
ur grounded
oak prawn
No im not 😎
oak prawn
ur grounded
Uno reverse
calm portal
Should I get both and see what one feels better for me
oak prawn
Cezka if you want extra CHC
calm portal
Thank you for all the help, much appreciated
oak prawn
You can also run strained
calm portal
What’s lefty?
lunar ridge
me and my new friend looking for 2 to run through incursion with
oak prawn
me and my new friend looking for 2 to run through incursion with
Or join the other server which has voicechats
pliant sentinel
milo check galaxy
oak prawn
But its my day off 😑
pliant sentinel
on discord?
pliant sentinel
ur like my dad
calm portal
I just got a lefty to drop, does it always come with perfect sledge? Or is it random
reef reef
named items will always come with the perfect talent (or stat) that is associated with that named
kind veldt
named comes with specific talents or rolls
calm portal
Okay thank you
reef reef
lefty and stage left have perfect sledge, ect ect
calm portal
Since I don’t have coyote yet, I just got catharsis. Would that be a good alternative for now?
reef reef
no
undone timber
Ones for damage ones for survivability
green charm
hi i want ask what is the hunter tag on countdown if kill it. What i done with it?
i never understand it 😄
agile pendant
cant open incur loot crates?? it was the hunters who stole them
never mess with hunters
undone timber
hi i want ask what is the hunter tag on countdown if kill it. What i done with i...
More requisitions
green charm
honestly not understand guys ^_^
you mean more coins from countdown?
because i have the game in another language
😄
wet island
me and my new friend looking for 2 to run through incursion with
Check out YouTube first it gives step by step how to beat it, very useful! Just need a good team!
undone timber
you mean more coins from countdown?
Yes
green charm
thx 🙂
agile pendant
you mean more coins from countdown?
yes more points, good run gets you 208 usually. good session from countdown gets you tremendous loot and to buy those caches.
green charm
how many add on points for every hunters? 🙂
frozen meadow
how many add on points for every hunters? 🙂
Depends on the difficulty
green charm
i tpically use heroic
frozen meadow
I think it's 24 each? I could be wrong
green charm
well good to know 🙂 thx again
frozen meadow
Wait no it's twelve
I think
@undone timber do you remember I don't
It's either twelve eighteen or 24
green charm
the important is the range 😉
unique summit
it's
+5 for mission complete
+24 per hunter dogtag
+129 for extracting
+1 per encounter
5 + (24 * 3) + 129 + (1 * 2) = 208
green charm
thx so much 😄
unique summit
i think technically you can get 232 for getting all 4 hunter dogtags
but majority of the time you get 3
green charm
yep 🙂
unique summit
it's actually pretty easy to get all 4 if people know where to go from insertion
but most ppl dont
green charm
understand
unique summit
and assuming ppl bring red cores which to this day is still a problem
so many blues and yellows
unique summit
yea one or two blues is fine if you're running striker
still all red is much much better
green charm
i running a custom build not all the time striker
unique summit
there should be no danger of dying in CD
green charm
the hunter hard damage me with 80% reduction from elite XD
green charm
but im not a champion
green charm
for me yes 😄
green charm
oki 🙂
wet island
all you need to tell is hunter has aggro on you
What is aggro?
wet island
Oh okay
unique summit
ya. most of the time enemies will aggro on the player doing the most damage to them.
so if all the enemies are attacking your friends they don't think you're a threat 😂
wet island
So that what that is, i noticed sometimes enemies gain up on 1.
unique summit
yeppp and it's usually the glass cannon dps guy haha
kind veldt
sadly shields no longer generate threat so tanks are in a bad spot in terms of game design
wet island
Shoot i got cornered so many times today cuz i wasn't after the green dudes
kind veldt
so if everyone is shooting you, it means you are doing a great job
unique summit
that's bad guy code for "you're doing really great, keep it up"
kind veldt
you are doing even better if the people who are shooting end up dead before they can do that
wet island
Groups i been in seemed to gotten wipe today cuz they're too focused on killing the enemies that come back
Is there a code players generally know to follow in groups like follow the group leader's lead or does ever1 do their own thing in missions?
molten spire
unless you're running with a regular group, not really
wet island
Was just wondering sometimes it seems we're not running in teams sometimes more like competing each other or som
But i use the match make a lot instead playing with friends
kind veldt
i just try to shoot enemies that i can see are going to flank me
green charm
how dropping level 100 mask? i not mean the season one but i see a led mask on one guy now. Is called level 100
molten spire
It's from the premium track of a previous season, so unless they put it up for sale, you can't have it even if you're offering to pay
molten spire
the season level 1-100 has a free track and a premium track. The premium track offers more caches, gear dyes, weapon skins and apparel items
undone timber
It wasn’t in the last one I dont believe
green charm
ahhh ok 🙂 thx
calm portal
Question, for gear to drop with max weapon damage/crit damage do I need to research it on the table or is it all down to chance?
undone timber
Completely random but you get the best odds on legendary/heroic
You can optimise after
twilit stag
i got this AR "Tactical MK 16" feels really good and does good damage too o: i like how it feels almost as much as st elmo c:
frigid delta
can someone help me how come i can't still do checkout/payment in ubisoft store nothing happen when i click "pay with credit card via xsolla"
reef reef
there hasnt been anything said in #server-status so i'd assume not
brisk copper
Ok thankyou
reef reef
you arewelcome
fiery shore
My monitor got a screen line while playing Division 2. Is there any experience of that?
agile grove
are perfect rolls rare?
like, for the core attribute and the attributes to drop as max
undone timber
Not crazy rare or anything given you're on heroic
What is rare is having both attributes be maxed and exactly what you want
That way you can roll off the talent
molten spire
or sometimes the core
undone timber
Still haven't got an all yellow setup
opal radish
Same here farming for 3 months
kind dagger
Aren’t yellows like the second easiest things to farm. Right behind gear sets
frank bobcat
man.. wonder wen tha box in PL will get fixed🤔
undone timber
Aren’t yellows like the second easiest things to farm. Right behind gear sets
Setup is blue core
kind dagger
I know. Im grinding that too
undone timber
Desirable one has repair skills skill haste and opportunistic so can roll to yellow
mossy arch
Ouroboros chest is still once per week?
thorn jackal
Ouroboros chest is still once per week?
Yeah
mossy arch
😕
echo cloud
whats the most straight forward way of finding the new exotic AR these days? just spam countdown?
fluid meadow
It's a 2 in 1
Since you can get it either through targeted or exotic caches bought with countdown requisition
echo cloud
ahh fair
tulip moon
this event is so broken i love it.
lyric ferry
Not sure where to post this but did anyone notice that in the Invaded Lincoln Memorial mission that there is one end boss missing...his name is Dan "Engles" Takahara
sterile ferry
Not sure where to post this but did anyone notice that in the Invaded Lincoln Me...
Does the third boss always spawn or only if your party size is 3 or larger?
I know there are 2 missions where the number of bosses scale with the party size
Story Roosevelt island and invaded air HQ
lyric ferry
Does the third boss always spawn or only if your party size is 3 or larger?
I kn...
Someone should try if he spawns with 2 or more people...But I remember him spawning solo too tbh
Every other mission in the game I know of always spawns the same bosses
Because if you look at the normal Lincoln Memorial mission...3 bosses spawn solo too
crystal notch
wow, countdown really be dropping a lot
deep flare
Did the chest reset in paradise lost ?
pliant sentinel
should be
crystal notch
what is a good talent to put on a vector that is not ranger that game gave me
frozen meadow
Idk if it's still bugged tho. Might still be knowing the devs 💀
``Players who opened the chest on the TU19 version (from Oct. 3rd to Oct. 16th) and are still experiencing the initial issue will need to wait until the exact same day they first played the Incursion on in order to open the chest again. For example, if the chest was first opened on a Friday, it will reset on the following Friday.
However, for those who opened the chest for the first time on TU19.1 starting from Oct. 17th, everything should already be functioning as intended.``
frozen meadow
Ouroboros chest is still once per week?
It's always gonna be once per week
full zinc
what is a good talent to put on a vector ~~that is not ranger that game gave me~...
Fast hands >strained > optimist
lone valve
I went to reddit and made a post about the stupid gate strategy and apparently I'm in the wrong and its "very good"
This sucks so much my god
crystal notch
how come i can craft providence defence mask and vest but not backpack
lone valve
Whoever was the yter that made this fucking gate strat popular
I curse them for life
pliant sentinel
new mask?
real creek
Whoever was the yter that made this fucking gate strat popular
I curse them for ...
It do suc yo.
celest marten
new mask?
probably, but these Limited Time bundles are 99% rehashed content.
If this means I have a chance in the future of getting the Purifier Mask, I'm for it.
Otherwise, whatever
pliant sentinel
ugh still cant buy dark path apparel with textiles
pliant sentinel
Which one?
halloween mask
pliant sentinel
probably, but these Limited Time bundles are 99% rehashed content.
If this means...
yeah it seems like it
i alr have the juggling emote but for some reason i can buy it again
lone valve
It do suc yo.
Think I'll just join a group and immediately say
"Pls don't do the gate strat at lovebirds"
pliant sentinel
never heard of it
lone valve
I hadn't heard of it until randoms started doing it
real creek
never heard of it
You stay in the gate spawn area and kill them.
lone valve
And it's garbage and slower
thorn jackal
``Players who opened the chest on the TU19 version (from Oct. 3rd to Oct. 16th) ...
Thx for clarifying
real creek
The idea is the turrets can't get you.
lone valve
I've seen more times than not Johnson just throws it up top where it can't aim at us
That's the best case scenario
frozen meadow
I've only seen her throw it on the pedestal when someone's not listening
lone valve
You mean him
lone valve
Must be the rare secret ending
fair lake
halloween mask
for real cash?
pliant sentinel
yes
lone valve
Monopoly money jnstead 
fair lake
yes
Lmao, I remember free Halloween masks previous years. Have never bought anything for real money except season tracks, because of the amount of items you get
lone valve
I was close to buying credits for the Claire jacket
But I controlled myself and would you look at that they reran the RE event 😌
real creek
I've seen more times than not Johnson just throws it up top where it can't aim a...
Yeah if everyone is in that entryway or hugging the outside of it he'll throw it up on top.
calm portal
Is the best way to farm exotics as a new player to run countdown with targeted loot then buying crates with the tokens you earn?
real creek
Is the best way to farm exotics as a new player to run countdown with targeted l...
Yeah this is the best exotic per hour for new players.
pliant sentinel
farm CD with the targeted loot of ur exotic
if it doesnt drop in CD use the CD tokens to buy the crates
calm portal
Aight cool, so I haven’t been wasting my time
frozen meadow
I accidentally deconned my bloody knuckles lol
real creek
I accidentally deconned my bloody knuckles lol
Wai you no fav?
pliant sentinel
🤔
frozen meadow
Wai you no fav?
I never fav things lol
pliant sentinel
u might have smth up eevee
frozen meadow
I started faving all my exos
I was deconning stuff in my stash and I'm like wait why did I get an exotic component
lone valve
A good one and a meh one
(not hard to figure out which is which)
frozen meadow
Lmao
Bloody knuckles just sucks imo, only reason it's relevant is cuz of the attributes
hybrid ore
Honestly was not expecting div2 to get status sticks, but here we are.
lone valve
I've seen more talk about it cuz of using sledge with it
But that's it
pliant sentinel
status what
frozen meadow
What is status sticks
pliant sentinel
a wooden stick with eclipse protocol logo on it
lone valve
Agents can now have discord status on their watches
frozen meadow
Bloodoop
lone valve
It would be cool if ur group privacy made ur watch colour change
frozen meadow
Private just turns it off
lone valve
Do not disturb makes it red 👀
hybrid ore
It's a Warframe thing.
They're melee weapons that enhance something else you do, usually indirectly.
while the (item) weapon itself is broadly useless.
lone valve
Ah
hybrid ore
It's kinda like the Kard, where it's only purpose on a red DPS build is to be held while you throw out a rez hive.
pliant sentinel
u cant tab ur enemies?
frozen meadow
problem is melee in this game sucks
kind dagger
I wish melee would scale properly. Sucks seeing a melee hit do not even 1/20 of an enemies health, and to rely on an exotic shotgun to actually one tap red and purple enemies. Not even elite ones
hybrid ore
Anything else about melee aside, think of it like this.
The Sweet Dreams is a great example. You can 1-hit kill any purple/red enemy, right? But once you do, then you are now surrounced by 5 of his buddies who are going to turn you into Agent pate'.
Melee in div2 is bad almost by design. You aren't really meant to hug enemies.
kind dagger
Only funny melee thing you can do in this game is Shocker Punch
Then again, probably only memable in the DZ and not crazily effective in PvE, if it were only to keep an enemy shocked for like 200-300% of the usual duration
lone valve
Melee in div2 is bad almost by design. You aren't really meant to hug enemies.
Sure wish npc melee didn't just wreck our shield tbh
Division skills are made out of thin paste 😭
kind veldt
Anything else about melee aside, think of it like this.
The Sweet Dreams is a g...
plot twist thats why i suggest a thousand times giving it a buff if oyu hit anything with melee, either defensive so you can run away in that situation or offensive so you cna kill the other 5 mofos surrounding you
hybrid ore
The best melee item in div2 is the Claws Out holster, and that is purely due to the Doom 2016 quote on it.
kind veldt
just slap a 50% bonus rof on sweet dreams if you hit something with melee and cal it a day
zealous temple
Is the Incursion chest fixed now? 🤔
kind veldt
Is the Incursion chest fixed now? 🤔
just read this since i'm lazy #td2-general-chat message
zealous temple
I read that last week, I'm asking if someone has actually cleared an Incursion today and they got their chest🙂
kind dagger
I think that melee hits should AT LEAST give a concussive effect to enemies
real creek
I think that melee hits should AT LEAST give a concussive effect to enemies
There is staggering.
hybrid ore
They do stagger them, it's just that the stagger is small.
what do you mean by "concussive"? because technically that just means physical impact from contact.
kind veldt
think he meants that gives them confused status
kind dagger
Yea that. I forget it’s called that
kind veldt
i think it's fair for named/elites
hybrid ore
Knowing div2 and how it forgets that Fragmentation Grenades are supposed to, ya know, fragment, it could mean it gives them a shock effect.
kind dagger
Telling me a frail Riker woman was swiped across the face with a 15 pound sniper rifle within a split second. And you’re not confused
kind dagger
frag granades do cause bleed for shrapnel?
I think they do yea
kind dagger
Only hard thing is the way they eat 70 bullets
hybrid ore
If anything, the Hyena rusher is frail, they're drug addicts who can barely stand straight up.
lone valve
If anything, the Hyena rusher is frail, they're drug addicts who can barely stan...
That drug makes them fearless
kind veldt
i mean that should apply to all hyenas
lone valve
Are we also on drugs if we use coyotes mask
sterile ferry
technically yeah i guess
kind veldt
anyhow back to writting something dumb
kind dagger
Motivational drugs yea
lone valve
Can we get a adrenaline effect when using coyotes then
kind dagger
Waiting for an exotic that makes me sprint faster. Just for fun
lone valve
Lady death
kind veldt
Waiting for an exotic that makes me sprint faster. Just for fun
lady death tho
lone valve
There you go
kind dagger
Oh right. See I’m forgetting these things
kind veldt
bird shot dumb list of changes completely untested with no regards to balancing:
Merciless: make it you only need 5 stacks to prco the explosion
Diamondback/1887: Give it 7 rounds
Sweet dreams: Huge rof buff and bonus armor after meleeing, named and elites instead just get confused if hit from melee, let it works on robo dogs also
Big horn: Increase zoom scope and zoomed headshots now give 5 headshot stacks instead of 1.
Eagle bearer: Just improve accuracy and give it more headshot damage in the mods
Chameleon: improve magazine size to 60
Chatterbox: Kills reload more of the magazine and upgrade your rof tier by 1 if not maxed
Sacrum imperium: Turn into exotic Sig716, buff the scope, buff headshot damage, make tagging faster and by default also make affect enemies around tagged ones
too lazy to think more dumb ideas for now
frozen meadow
Yea that. I forget it’s called that
its called disorient
lone valve
Where's revert TIPS changes
lone valve
bird shot dumb list of changes completely untested with no regards to balancing:...
Chatterbox imo needs more base damage increase
It's struggling in heroic content tbh
That goes for any P90 tbh
zealous temple
just read this since i'm lazy https://discord.com/channels/477210626742288384/48...
Ok apparently the supposed "fix" didn't work, just watched a streamer clearing Incursion and his chest is bugged too. Hopefully they fix it🙂🙂
lone valve
I tried using emelines guard cuz i love preservation and idk
Felt underwhelming
Think I used it with HF
kind veldt
use them with HF and didnt have muhc problems
lone valve
Maybe I'll try it again
kind veldt
well other than long range enemies but thats what you get with SMGs really
lone valve
Safety distance barges in
kind veldt
i mean thats probably my favourite SMG
and why i want an exotic headshot long range focused SMG
lone valve
Yes I love safety distance too
Up there with the grudge
kind veldt
well we have the made up vector as an SMG posing as AR
we should have an AR posing as SMG exotic
lone valve
Can we get a g36 exotic
Pls
kind dagger
I’ll still fight for an ACS12 exotic with extended drum and 400rpm minimum
lone valve
Being back the house but make it good
frozen meadow
I’ll still fight for an ACS12 exotic with extended drum and 400rpm minimum <:pet...
itll run out of ammo in under 30 seconds
hybrid ore
Apartment is the new House, which means that by div3 it'll be "the flat-share".
dapper fjord
Is there no vc anymore for this server
frozen meadow
no they were removed a few months ago
dapper fjord
For div 2?
frozen meadow
cant, at school
pliant sentinel
kk
kind veldt
no just watching videos and shitposting here as usual
dapper fjord
alr
kind veldt
weird stuff i want:
full auto secondary
non gun as a gun in weird slot (revolver as rifle, crossbow as MMR, nailgun as pistol...)
a gun with really good stats but can overheat and jam
more burst fire guns
shotgun revolver secondary
hybrid ore
I wouldn't say no to adding the Judge to div2.
crystal notch
The Judge?
frozen meadow
burst fire is awful
kind veldt
secondary category is very shallow
pliant sentinel
rock island vr80 shotgun is p good suggestion
frozen meadow
also what the hell is a shotgun revolver
pliant sentinel
u never played cod ghosts and it shows
kind veldt
a revolver that can use shotgun ammo
hybrid ore
Payday 2 shotgun revolver.
kind veldt
i played cod ghosts, i hate that game an regret buying it t othis day
i love how people associate judge to payday
hybrid ore
I was going to go with Judge Dredd and call it the Lawgiver, but that would just be OP.
kind veldt
well it's kinda busted there
pliant sentinel
nailgun is a good suggestion
zinc shadow
rock island vr80 shotgun is p good suggestion
ar-pattern shotgun
don't let the milsimmers hear about it
pliant sentinel
origin 12 will make eevee complain
frozen meadow
idk what any of these are
kind veldt
well for judge dredd it would need to implement the weird 8 different firing mode they have
pliant sentinel
origin 12, imagine the acs but higher rof
frozen meadow
an ammo dump with low af damage?
hybrid ore
idk what any of these are
Niche geek stuff, just embrace the nerdiness.
frozen meadow
no
kind veldt
and people make jokes it looks like a boltgun
hybrid ore
Don't make me bring up the flak-cannon, because I will.
pliant sentinel
the boys talking about guns 🤮
eevee talking about foxes ☺️
hybrid ore
Swing and a miss there.
crystal notch
i think we need an m79 grenade launcher as exotic
kind veldt
well mostly niche stuff that could be added to the game that the weapon themselves already lend themselves as gimmicks
so easy for being exotic or diversity
hybrid ore
None of this could be added to div2, since most of it is literally from aliens.
but its fun to discuss the idea.
pliant sentinel
we have the model for an awp (nemesis) but theres still no awp mmr
hybrid ore
In that case, Jesus makes grilled cheese sandwiches.
kind veldt
well M79 could have worked better as alternative spec weapons
which is something i still wished we had
hybrid ore
You want a worse grenade launcher?
kind veldt
could give it slighty larger radius and something like incendiary effect on top of regular explosive damage
hybrid ore
How about a happy medium and just make the upgrades for the Spec Tree where you pick the grenade type.
they are reworking them.
frozen meadow
didnt they cancel the rework tho
kind veldt
...wasnt that part of the scrapped part in spec reworks?
kind veldt
i mean i can believe that since they added granade selection by holding the button
alpine gale
guys and gals is the apparel advent buy keys busted as ive got 1k credits atm but the buy keys button greyed out
pliant sentinel
uh oh server restarting
kind veldt
make your bets will something get borked?
crystal notch
i want my recovery, blue and yellow links
recovery, blue and yellow
you only want green one :( i miss tactical(yellow) because haha firerate buff
pliant sentinel
i like blue cause i can solo clear sky
zinc shadow
remember the days of survivor link=PvP "I win" button
frozen meadow
guys and gals is the apparel advent buy keys busted as ive got 1k credits atm bu...
textiles or premium credits
hybrid ore
didnt they cancel the rework tho
AFAIK it's just "in the works".
pliant sentinel
i used to conceal myself w the pulse and then tact link anyone who tries to steal my dz loot
frozen meadow
AFAIK it's just "in the works".
last i checked they outright cancelled it
hybrid ore
Gonna need an official source for that one.
it seems unlikely, with how bad it needs balancing.
opal radish
last i checked they outright cancelled it
The page is still up lol you forgot to take it down
frozen meadow
they said it on stream
alpine gale
great cant use my preimum credits to buy apparel keys like wtf
hybrid ore
Just don't worry about it for now, I'm sure someone will find one eventually.
frozen meadow
irish can you send a photo in #ask-td2-community of what youre seeing
kind veldt
they openly said it
lsat i heard they opted for reworking other stuff in the endgame and use kind of new gear for progression
pliant sentinel
looks like u gotta do more public executions
small spear
Me using binoculars rn <:petter:574985790304550938>
enjoy, i'm just going to headhunt
hybrid ore
"it's something we had to set aside".
it has not been actively cancelled. You really should watch the full conversation about it.
It's been effectively delayed indefinitely, but neither of them said "it's not happening".
frozen meadow
thats what delayed indefinitely means
hybrid ore
So likely at least for the DLC, if not later.
opal radish
enjoy, i'm just going to headhunt
I stole that too you only have mad bomber
hybrid ore
last i checked they outright cancelled it
One way or the other, this is wrong.
frozen meadow
delayed indefinitely = not happening = cancelled
kind veldt
I had this same exact convo with eevee on the day of the stream
frozen meadow
lol
kind veldt
I know they also said in anither older stream
hybrid ore
You can keep rewording it however you like, but it's still not accurate.
lone valve
The spec rework was shelved cuz it didn't fit with their endgame rework they were doing if memory serves me right
frozen meadow
they said delayed indefinitely, you agreed to that
lone valve
Nice words for it's not happening
pliant sentinel
never back down never what
frozen meadow
delayed indefinitely means its never happening
not happening until infinity time passes
which means not happening which means cancelled
hybrid ore
You can keep rewording it however you like, but it's still not accurate.
Are you done yet?
opal radish
lone valve
I think they just chose to prioritise the endgame rework and seasons 2.0
And along with the Brooklyn dlc
frozen meadow
im not understanding how what i said is not accurate
hybrid ore
The stream directly counteracts that, the one you told me to watch.
They are not cancelling it, just pushing it back for later.
kind veldt
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/2AEi...
And the stream they say that page is no longer correct
opal radish
And the stream they say that page is no longer correct
Lol should have deleted it
hybrid ore
Now this is getting really tiresome, I'mm go make a tea. Anyone want one?
I only have green or black.
undone timber
Matcha is banging
hybrid ore
earl-grey and base green, nothing fancy.
kind veldt
black tea, but i will calmly rewatch it
opal radish
I only have green or black.
Green for me
kind veldt
because i'm sure of this one, i already had people calling me crazy and making stuff yesterday about the game
crystal notch
i have a box of camomile tea.. which i am too lazy to drink
kind veldt
and had to use wayback machine to find a patchnote because devs hate keeping notes
hybrid ore
1 of each, gotcha.
🍵 🫖 you'll have to provide your own cups tho.
kind veldt
okay exact terminology is shelved
and it's not part of what we are designing for the new update
neither says cancelled or that it's coming back
honestly from rewatching they mention doing something that they consider more drastic and that old article is no longer correct
lone valve
I think they had it planned but I feel like they then had bigger plans for endgame reworks and other things for the dlc
kind veldt
i think specs will be left in the dust because they will probably implement something else that will circunvent most of that
and i just think they decided to use stuff they already had done from the old spec rework in the game with the granade selection adn tips changes
lone valve
Yea look I don't think specs were very successful in this game
kind veldt
but since the spec rework didnt go fully tips spear is just bad
sterile ferry
TIL the dz resources cap at 999
kind veldt
first game build creating is pretty much free form purely based on gear you cna change at will
specs go hard against this and for them to be relevant they would need to drasticly change A LOT more to justify the limitations
lone valve
(reduced damage against named enemies)
Specs should be used against the main targets not actively nerf their damage to them
kind veldt
so each granade would need to be very good to justify limiting them, each armor kit needs to very different ot justify not using a generic one for all
lone valve
What am I gonna do use them on a purple bar yea thanks
kind veldt
case in point is how weapon bonuses were limited to certain weapons in each spec
and had to be reworked to let you choose because it goes hard against game basic build making
i wanted them to double down and make each unique bonuses for specs to be waaaay more important
lone valve
Bring back sig skills
kind veldt
we got stuck with this bad one that limits you enough that feels like a pebble in your shoe and not big enough to drasticly change how you play
undone timber
Bring back sig skills <:petter:574985790304550938>
Tac link go crazy
crystal notch
more firerate always welcome
lone valve
I sure hope they learn from what did not work and their mistakes with div2 when going into div 3
This is their biggest chance they've had 2 games to learn what works and what doesn't
frozen meadow
what mistakes
lone valve
The biggest one
frozen meadow
(genuine question, curious what youre thinking)
lone valve
The dz
frozen meadow
what about it
lone valve
3 separate zones
Made the dz to cater to pve players, turns out who knew pve players still didn't wanna go in there
kind veldt
- Survivalist should have been buff/debuff spec based on causing status effect causing secondary effects either as buffs for the team or debuffs against enemies with the crossbow leaning on status effect arrows and traps instead of armor breaking
- Demo should have had way better granades and carry more of them to make use of explosive damage buffs the spec should give to focus on AOEs
- Sharpshooter is just basic and i think it should have focused more on using pulse to tag enemies to suppor the team and heavy single target damage, making armor breaking be part of the tac-50 instead of the shockwave and highlight weakpoins (let's waste rare ammo on a enemy weakpoin instead of just headshotting it)
- Firewall has decent mentality of giving shield and CC spec weapon, but granade is just lackluster and lacks threat mechanics to give the role of "tank"
gunner i just okay and i think it should have had more defensive and offensive bonus focused on being in cover - Technician should have had a spec weapon that could double up as defibrilator instead of doubling down on generic explosive damage
frozen meadow
3 separate zones
Made the dz to cater to pve players, turns out who knew pve pl...
pvp is a disaster no matter what
lone valve
If you compare this games dz to div1 I very much doubt you'll find many people that like div 2 dz compared to div 1
kind veldt
between the two games i do prefer div1 DZ, but i just dont like DZ at all
frozen meadow
unless they get a dedicated team towards cheating prevention, dz will always be bad
kind veldt
so it's asking between broken glass and broken dirty glass
lone valve
Actually there's a bigger mistake
Not having a good post launch content plan
Year 1 was a raid and some missions scattered through the year
frozen meadow
they did have a plan
kind veldt
year 1 was a filler to expand on specs and plot to reach WONY
neon wyvern
3 separate zones
Made the dz to cater to pve players, turns out who knew pve pl...
add ouro to dz 
kind veldt
they did have a plan and that plan was to work on expansions
frozen meadow
year 1 was a filler to expand on specs and plot to reach WONY
^
lone valve
Emphasis on good
This game should've been handled like destiny 2 post launch
Only good thing destiny has is it's post launch support
frozen meadow
- they intended to have three raids
kind veldt
heck i remember when they accidentaly leaked global events early in year 1
frozen meadow
Just budget cuts on episode 2
lone valve
Make div 3 last for years
Have a expansive post launch plan with tons of stuff to release
frozen meadow
They did..
kind veldt
div 2 is lasting for years with expansions even
game has bad management a bit from devs and a lot more from ubi suits
frozen meadow
Majority of the problems this game has are at the fault of corporate
oblique star
how long is server down for?
frozen meadow
It's not down?
lone valve
div 2 is lasting for years with expansions even
Sure but the biggest thing was they had planned to just abandon the game past s4
And then a whole year and a half basically with no content except for season reruns
oblique star
It's not down?
oh ok..... got error message when i first tried but now it works 😄
kind veldt
i think it's in maintnance? people reported getting message in game about server restarting or something
kind veldt
Sure but the biggest thing was they had planned to just abandon the game past s4...
that one is 100% on ubi suits
frozen meadow
Should I stop by Burger king on the way home from school
lone valve
Yea cuz they laid 2 games on top of massive
Avatar then the sw game
kind veldt
no
frozen meadow
Ok
lone valve
So div had to go
Until it didn't
kind veldt
to to an used book store
i mean a lot of the things i complain about the current quality of the game is due scramble to continue developtment when they just changed their minds 2 weeks after the game was meant to have ended and said people should work on it again
definetly not the devs choice to do that
frozen meadow
Just a theory
But the screenwriters could have possibly had a whole lot planned for div 3 but the devs saw this as an opportunity to present this idea to corporate as more of div 2 and with the increased player count this idea got approved
Just a theory
kind veldt
for me investors are not smart people when it comes to video game developtment so they dont know what they are doing with it
frozen meadow
for me investors are not smart people when it comes to video game developtment s...
I'm referring to putting dev costs into the game due to player counts rising
Aka increasing lifespan
Investors will do anything for money so you just gotta convince them to put it in the right place
iron gust
Massive were (are?) tied in two big projects so ubi pushed another studio to take on main development, as massive wraps up avatar and star wars development of div 2 will slow down if not outright stop
agile pendant
Massive were (are?) tied in two big projects so ubi pushed another studio to tak...
massive is making that sw ubi game??
agile pendant
game has bad management a bit from devs and a lot more from ubi suits
wouldn't be the first time a dev/publisher fkd the game up... after wony its like they forgot div 2 existed. didn't ubi almost pull supp from this game??
iron gust
Yeah massive is developing star wars outlaws
agile pendant
Yeah massive is developing star wars outlaws
oof so its gonna have crashes and bugs 🤣
kind veldt
Well yeah, game was meant to end in y2s4, two weeks after the last planned update they had investor meeting, they saw game had great number in sales and players and told people to go back to work
...but they already had told people who worked on it work on avatar and star wars so it caused a new dev team to handle the game and the whole story of how we reached here
lone valve
My last character for basically a week
Can I pls get oreo 😭
pure saffron
feral crest
3 separate zones
Made the dz to cater to pve players, turns out who knew pve pl...
The div 1 dz was my childhood, sad to see it split into 3 seperate zones
pure saffron
The White House should have been the "Green Zone" and the DZ should have been rings going outward, I'm not a DZ player for the PVP aspect, but there wasn't any "thrill" reason to visit DC DZ.
sterile ferry
omfg the chick at the campus is selling commando
fiery flax
Guys am thinking about buying the WONY dlc but am kinda new to the game ,what exactly do i benefit from it?
sterile ferry
many items and game modes are locked behind the DLC, id even say the game isnt complete without WONY
tropic compass
I was able to open the box despite doing so on Sunday
kind veldt
Guys am thinking about buying the WONY dlc but am kinda new to the game ,what ex...
pretty much an expansion, more items, more missions, new map, and the current events adn so on
pure saffron
Guys am thinking about buying the WONY dlc but am kinda new to the game ,what ex...
Once you get (back) to NYC, you are on a manhunt for Keener, and bosses will drop new skills to use. the Manhunts continue and further add skills you could use once back in DC as a fresh level 40
random spoke
Is ubisoft offline?
pure saffron
only for you
agile pendant
Well yeah, game was meant to end in y2s4, two weeks after the last planned updat...
🤔 makes sense just ubi things. honestly this game shits on the likes of breakpoint
fiery flax
So its worth the price tag?
agile pendant
So its worth the price tag?
yes but on a sale though
dark mirage
Does anyone here still need to do the hunter encounters?
agile pendant
Does anyone here still need to do the hunter encounters?
just the wony ones
dark mirage
I already finished all of them, but I'm misssing the Death mask.
Because I died during the battle, and it never spawned again.
kind veldt
So its worth the price tag?
when you in doubt wait for a sale
fiery flax
when you in doubt wait for a sale
Does it ever go on sale on consoles?
random spoke
Ubisoft BRAVO-04 ERROR, sigh...
real creek
Ubisoft BRAVO-04 ERROR, sigh...
Typically a connection error. If people aren't reporting in mass it could be your net being funky, you tried turning it off and on again?
random spoke
Typically a connection error. If people aren't reporting in mass it could be you...
Thanks
astral jacinth
Are we getting a new incursion with every season moving forward?
sterile ferry
lol no
agile pendant
Are we getting a new incursion with every season moving forward?
🤣 🤭
lone valve
I got my oreo
On my last character aswell
It was meant to be 😌😌😌
sterile ferry
like if you look at the roadmap, the future seasons dont even say that
kind veldt
suffers from the general issue that they had on raids, that is making tanks and skill builds relevants
since most of the time you just want DPS DPS DPS tp killa boss
lone valve
Are we getting a new incursion with every season moving forward?
They said if this one does well and people like it why not
But probably only after the dlc in s4 if there's more support beyond that
kind veldt
and a healer
lone valve
Think it was yannick that said it in the last sotg
worthy ingot
I would Say The New LMG Does Average Damage!
agile pendant
I got my oreo
On my last character aswell
It was meant to be 😌😌😌
had like 2 drop on the same character 😏
agile pendant
suffers from the general issue that they had on raids, that is making tanks and ...
skill build lol what a meme in incur
lone valve
had like 2 drop on the same character 😏
I had my main character open the chest twice in the same run
And got nothing lmao
Had to resort to my 3rd character
twilit stag
ive seen videos of the incursion, and mechanics dont seem to bad however, how does a full red core build survives 90467701 ads spawning from all sides c:
real creek
ive seen videos of the incursion, and mechanics dont seem to bad however, how do...
Cause they ded.
kind veldt
thats it, thats why tanks and other skill builds are kinda meh
turrets and drones are not great because bosses have invincibility periods so they can instead of kill adds just waste time shooting invincible bosses
EMP and decoys find some use but those are useful even for red builds
real creek
I am killing any add/chunga in 1 or less mag on average for any ad during almost all of the incursion.
kind veldt
i mean one tier 6 sticky bomb isnt doing more than 1 DPS striker is on a boss
dire moat
Quick question. Is damage to targets out of cover testable in the range?
small spear
Quick question. Is damage to targets out of cover testable in the range?
yes, every enemy is out of cover in there
dire moat
Ok cool just checking. Having a crisis😂. I know alot of people commit to dttoc and dta but rn in the range I'm getting more DPS and overall bullet (crit) damage from an improvised knee pad with 2 crit damage mods over a fox's prayer with crit damage which is confusing me
frozen meadow
Ok cool just checking. Having a crisis😂. I know alot of people commit to dttoc ...
Range DPS is broken
real creek
Ok cool just checking. Having a crisis😂. I know alot of people commit to dttoc ...
Higher crits is obvious but did you factor in your normal hits?
dire moat
Yea. I see normal hits are higher but I'm at 60% crit chance on both builds. So overall losing DPS using damage to targets out of cover. Which is confusing me. It's a DZ build so the gear pieces are a bit hard to come by because I'm rolling cores instead of attributes and talents
real creek
Yea. I see normal hits are higher but I'm at 60% crit chance on both builds. So ...
DPS on the shooting range is unbelievable but comparing numbers often isn't
Unreliable**
dire moat
What's the actual damage per shot
One sec. I'll double check and send the stats
real creek
Yeah DTTOOC is 8% so the difference between white/blue numbers should be just that.
frozen meadow
I still find it weird status effects count as crits only to health
Can someone check if fire ticks to health proc nego
covert sphinx
is the chest fixed finally
frozen meadow
is the chest fixed finally
``Players who opened the chest on the TU19 version (from Oct. 3rd to Oct. 16th) and are still experiencing the initial issue will need to wait until the exact same day they first played the Incursion on in order to open the chest again. For example, if the chest was first opened on a Friday, it will reset on the following Friday.
However, for those who opened the chest for the first time on TU19.1 starting from Oct. 17th, everything should already be functioning as intended.``
lone valve
Eevee is the new chest reset messenger
frozen meadow
Because it's not really broken lmao
lone valve
It's hard reading the patch notes
frozen meadow
People said things like "I spent hours of farming for nothing?"
Idk how to even respond to that
thick osprey
Idk how to even respond to that
gg go next
frozen meadow
?
thick osprey
give em that response
real creek
Because it's not really broken lmao
I was able to open the box yesterday tho. It's like I get 2 opening a week.
lone valve
Just open it twice in one run
thick osprey
i still have yet to attempt the incusrion
frozen meadow
That response makes no sense
thick osprey
nvm
real creek
Just open it twice in one run
I've had people open it twice in one run.
dire moat
What's the actual damage per shot
With fox's prayer on. 102k regular shots. 240k crits. That's fully optimized no loose ends. With improvised I'm getting 95k regular, 244k crits. But at 60% crit hit chance I'm hitting far more crits than regular shots
Also to note. The improvised knees are far from fully optimized (missing about 3% crit dmg) and I'm missing 18% crit damage on my SHD watch. Everything else is max out SHD wise
frozen meadow
3% crit damage isn't "far from fully optimized" lol
real creek
With fox's prayer on. 102k regular shots. 240k crits. That's fully optimized no ...
Yeah but you see how it's worse right?
lone valve
I've had people open it twice in one run.
Yea I have too
frozen meadow
Yeah it does less damage
lone valve
I had 2 keys at one point
dire moat
Why are your damage numbers so low
All blue cores. Dz build
frozen meadow
Ah
thick osprey
yeah i was gon say
frozen meadow
I've given up on dz since its irrelevant if you don't have a ton of unicorns and max expertise on everything
dire moat
Also that's without any catharsis proc and I run Oro and shotty with versatile on my backpack for the 20% amp damage
thick osprey
is expertise still a thing in dz
frozen meadow
Yes
thick osprey
bruh
dire moat
I've given up on dz since its irrelevant if you don't have a ton of unicorns and...
It's been fun. I'm new to the game and only just decided to try dz after getting everything I wanted from PvE
lone valve
I've given up on dz since its irrelevant if you don't have a ton of unicorns and...
When will that Trello board card become reality
The expertise in non invaded dz
frozen meadow
Also people doing shit with determined
dire moat
Also people doing shit with determined
Well...that I can't plan for. Pain
frozen meadow
See the problem with dz
thick osprey
inspected some guy who killed me once
saw smt like 24% weapon damage from expertise
never went back
frozen meadow
There's a ridiculous difficulty curve to the point where you shouldn't go in dz at all unless you've farmed for a minimum of 20 hours
And even then you're still behind the competition
lone valve
Yea expertise is a big problem in Dz
And has only just gotten worse
Because of expertise increasing every season
lone valve
It's why they will probably remove expertise from non invaded dz
thick osprey
god i hope so
but ive seen a bunch of people whining about it whenever expertise removal is brought up
dire moat
Yeah but you see how it's worse right?
Also just saw this. Idk. Really. I'm losing about 9k on my regular damage gaining 4k crits which are in vast majority and on an unoptimized piece. And with 17% crits sitting in my watch. Idk which will outweigh it long run because they're almost equal rn with the crits slightly edging out the dttoc.
lone valve
but ive seen a bunch of people whining about it whenever expertise removal is br...
Everywhere in this game there will be complaints lol
kind veldt
people dont want fairness in PVP sometimes
frozen meadow
ever*
timber hatch
Because everyone exploited to get mass exo components
What exploit?
real creek
They might be talking about the double box opening in the DZ? That's my guess.
twilit stag
expertise gotta be the mechanic with the most investment and least return ive seen ever c:
real creek
expertise gotta be the mechanic with the most investment and least return ive se...
Once you've got everything it's something to spend/work towards.
neon wyvern
expertise gotta be the mechanic with the most investment and least return ive se...
and why it's gotta be killed in the dz and conflict
timber hatch
There's more than 1 problem with division pvp obviously, but I honestly think the massive barrier to entry for people new to pvp is the biggest one. So many people try it, get their teeth kicked in, and go "well never doing that again"
frozen meadow
What exploit?
people dont call it an exploit but i consider it one; where you just spam create characters, go through the intro, boost to 30 and get the weekly
timber hatch
That's a feature, not a bug/glitch/exploit lol
neon wyvern
The resource sink weekly? how do you carry that much components
dire moat
There's more than 1 problem with division pvp obviously, but I honestly think th...
When I first started...same. didn't touch it for a while. I had to realise the things that are at bare minimum necessary to survive in there. PvE stuff rarely works unless you got ppl to back you up
neon wyvern
It's capped at 500
frozen meadow
That's a feature, not a bug/glitch/exploit lol
i disagree
frozen meadow
The resource sink weekly? how do you carry that much components
youll just fast travel to a resource node, only takes an extra ~30 seconds
full zinc
It's capped at 500
lincoln has all that in close proximity water east and comp/food north
big plots for the weekly
real creek
You guys don't just do a couple resource convoys?
real creek
I actually forget to do the weekly donation thing most weeks.
full zinc
also not main agents 75% of the time.. at least for me
my 3 alts are mules with a basic ep build to gather resources
but for new agent level 30 exo spamming those plots are pretty nice
real creek
I pretty much only play on main. I used to play a bit on a second character but that's when I had one for speeds and one for normie stuffs.
full zinc
yeah same. i carry my few builds on main . filled up alts with exo caches from a few events though so if there is ever a need to farm a specific exo i got like 50+chances anytime😅
frozen meadow
id definitely say its exploitation
full zinc
id definitely say its exploitation
What about duplicating the watch with a new agent put through wony?
frozen meadow
also
full zinc
Guess it's a good thing you're not a dev 🍻
frozen meadow
huh
hybrid ore
Logging on after an issue has been fixed and you getting extra caches that you missed out on?
frozen meadow
that isnt what we are talking about rivens
hybrid ore
It's gaining something not intended originally.
frozen meadow
its intended by the developers directly
hybrid ore
So having the SHD watch be account-bound isn't intended?
frozen meadow
recreating characters to get a weekly is not intended directly
frozen meadow
So having the SHD watch be account-bound isn't intended?
it is intended, but making characters for the sole purpose of resource gain isnt
hybrid ore
Where do you draw the line, is doing the LZ resource loop by opening stuff on the ground an exploit?
frozen meadow
no because it only resets once per day and is limited
specifically restricted to avoid farming, mind you
hybrid ore
So 24 hours is your limit, what if I just took a long time to finish WONY each run?
frozen meadow
thats not what i said
full zinc
It's a known thing about wony runs or new agent exo farm.
If it was an issue it woulda been on trello a long time ago like f10 ended up being
agile pendant
damn they killed our homeboi capt lewis
frozen meadow
specifically restricted to avoid farming, mind you
its not about the time of the limit, its about the presense of it
hybrid ore
An exploit needs to be specifically defined, otherwise you could say that being able to perform a cover-to-cover move is an exploit as it makes you harder to hit.
frozen meadow
if they placed a limitation preventing you from making a new character to once every few days my belief would change
frozen meadow
An exploit needs to be specifically defined, otherwise you could say that being ...
ill define it then
in this context, exploitation is misuse of a game mechanic to gain large amounts of material/resource in a short amount of time, contrary to the intention the devs initially had for said mechanic
agile pendant
ure wasting 2-3hrs minimum to do a new character to lv40 though, not worth it. i wanna see someone speedrun and do it in 30mins
hybrid ore
I think the walking alone would probably take 30 minutes.
frozen meadow
ure wasting 2-3hrs minimum to do a new character to lv40 though, not worth it. i...
you can do wony in 30 minutes
agile pendant
you can do wony in 30 minutes
yes in ure dreams about division 2 anything is possible
frozen meadow
no, its actually been done
hybrid ore
Oh this is going to be a fun run to see.
Okay, send me a run of it done in 30minutes via a DM.
real creek
Ehhh 30 min if you've already done all the setup and have 2-3 carries.
frozen meadow
Ehhh 30 min if you've already done all the setup and have 2-3 carries.
but doable
real creek
Yeah it's just gotta go perfectly tho and you'll be leaving and joining games.
hybrid ore
You haven't explained though, why should it be limited to every "few days" and not say, a week, 2?
frozen meadow
thats up to debate, im just giving an example
hybrid ore
It's a weird point to make is my point here. It's arbitrary to call WONY runs an exploit.
frozen meadow
elaborate
hybrid ore
That's what I'm asking you to do.
plus, to even have them be worthwhile, you need to have your SHD up high enough for it to matter. Usually I see 2k+ recommended.
XP exploits are another matter entirely. Those should've been rolled back, but that's not going to happen at this point.
frozen meadow
i never did any xp exploits and id still argue its a problem
makes the veterans exponentially stronger to ridiculous extremes after the introduction of expertise
hybrid ore
Are those two statements connected?
frozen meadow
not really
hybrid ore
Yeah was gonna say, not really the vets doing the xp exploits. Maybe some of the really old ones, but those weren't as crazy high as something like f10/Lau
frozen meadow
i just think shd level was one of the worst additions to the game
hybrid ore
I hate gearscore with a burning passion. I hated it in Odyssey (top 3 AC games IMO), I hated it in Breakpoint, and I didn't like it even back in div1.
frozen meadow
i think they should have just capped the watch at 1000 with no scavenge points
hybrid ore
Leave it uncapped, but remove anything but cosmetic from it.
Easy. No minor health boost, although I do like getting extra credits when I need them.
agile pendant
I hate gearscore with a burning passion. I hated it in Odyssey (top 3 AC games I...
ghost recon had no reason being a open world game with rpg gear system... but thats just ubi now. just cope/paste all their games.
frozen meadow
maybe leave it uncapped with zero actual gain per level then; i disagree with scavenge points and its existence
hybrid ore
I liked the RPG gear system, I just didn't like the gear score.
frozen meadow
i hate the scavenge point system
agile pendant
bring back giga chad scott mitchell
frozen meadow
devaluing optimization and expertise for veteran players
power creep at its finest per se
hybrid ore
I really don't care about it one way or the other. I got to endgame without using it, but I don't put down anyone who used that particular boost-up.
Honestly, we're lucky that div2 avoids the gearscore issue. Destiny 2 had that plaguing it for years, might still do.
frozen meadow
I miss the uncapped attributes
neon wyvern
I like the scavenge point system since it benefits me
hybrid ore
One thing I do miss is DtE. I had a few godrolls of it back in the day and it was an amazing way to run stuff.
I understand why it's gone, but still. 😦
frozen meadow
I like the scavenge point system since it benefits me
As I said; power creep at its finest
neon wyvern
damage to everything?
frozen meadow
Damage to elites
neon wyvern
that would've been cool in countdown
frozen meadow
There used to be a talent called hard hitter that had 25% (then 15%) damage to elites
I ran it on my old A&E build
hybrid ore
The other thing I miss is the old Claws Out holster attributes.
that thing hit hard.
neon wyvern
As I said; power creep at its finest
I'll take this kind of power creep then whatever they are doing with the newest exotics
frozen meadow
Perfect versatile?
Or what's the other weapon swap talent
Starts with an A I think
Omg I just came up with a good talent idea that would be so much better than what the OB currently has
full zinc
You haven't explained though, why should it be limited to every "few days" and n...
I think if it was really an issue and warranted changing, you wouldn't have to put a limit on shd gain or how fast you spam agents...
It can be a lot simpler..
So materials among an agent are a shared pool, at least what can be purchased with scavenging... a shared scavenging pool would totally negate wony runs.
You could technically still do the new agent thing but you would be pulling from a finite pool.
hybrid ore
Damn it, I had sneakily moved us past that.
frozen meadow
Shared pool would still influence xp farming
full zinc
It couldn't be duplicated tho
frozen meadow
I just want xp farming to go poof
full zinc
Sorry Rivens 😅
frozen meadow
Which is why I miss old gear 2.0 system
full zinc
Regular xp farming like open world stuff isnt an issue. Having people populate the game is a good thing.
You have a problem with gaining it too quick which is why wony seems exploitive.
Just my take... I couldn't care less if someone runs wony on repeat. Personally only done it on my 3 alts once each to get them up to level. But it's almost a daily thing to hop in and help someone level
still wasp
Did the box reset today in the incursion?
lone valve
Eevee ur time has come (again)
frozen meadow
Did the box reset today in the incursion?
``Players who opened the chest on the TU19 version (from Oct. 3rd to Oct. 16th) and are still experiencing the initial issue will need to wait until the exact same day they first played the Incursion on in order to open the chest again. For example, if the chest was first opened on a Friday, it will reset on the following Friday.
However, for those who opened the chest for the first time on TU19.1 starting from Oct. 17th, everything should already be functioning as intended.``
real creek
``Players who opened the chest on the TU19 version (from Oct. 3rd to Oct. 16th) ...
ctrl+c ctrl+v
frozen meadow
Go to lfg channel
sick quarry
Bet just seen ty
fair lake
Just my take... I couldn't care less if someone runs wony on repeat. Personally ...
Like it to insta level up the expertise system (which I never upgrade past 20, because of the amount of exo components needed)
royal pelican
nevermind, read two messages above
how can we know the day we first did the incursion ?
reef reef
easiest way is to remember
kind veldt
well mine is eays since it was day 1, but yeah go by your own memory
kind veldt
i can remember bomberman gbc password for world 5 boss but i cant remember yesterday breakfast
kid me really wanted that number engraved in his mind
royal pelican
hope they will patch this problem
glacial oar
lone valve
noo
memory, my worst ~~nightmare~~ enemy
I remembered mine cuz i clipped my first clear so I knew the exact date
cedar mulch
Are they going to make the Oreo easier for players to get it's so hard to find a decent group for incursion
tender notch
doubt it.
frozen meadow
24/29 no cat ears 😭
kind veldt
Day 1 random group clear trust yourself
real creek
24/29 no cat ears 😭
I always wait till I've got all the keys to open any up.
frozen meadow
I still have two RE keys
rare vapor
I always wait till I've got all the keys to open any up.
that's what i do every event. i dont touch apparel event boxes until i have farmed all of the keys up.
running around with half complete apparels is just sad.
frozen meadow
Meep merp
lone valve
24/29 no cat ears 😭
I got both the cat backpack and the ears on my first 10
I remember when I was grinding the RE event and I wanted the Claire jacket so badly it waited till the last key to give it to me
main meadow
hi why there are so many crash ?
i come back after one years and lot of crash ... how can i fix it
kind veldt
Hard to know what is the issue
serene tundra
how do you get keys for the event
kind veldt
Mine was just from having a controller pluged in my pc
kind veldt
how do you get keys for the event
Every 4 level ups you get one
serene tundra
ty @kind veldt
twilit stag
yeah i noticed a bunch of crashes on console too 🗿
at least 2/5 countdowns crash midway or towards the end
Well maybe is the countdown activity itself that causes the crash 🤔 game never crashed before on summit or open world, it always is on Countdown
main meadow
i crash 5-6 time by game ...
twilit stag
Kinda scared to try Incursion, doing well and then it crash midway through 💀
or towards the end 💀 I mean i did crashed once right after getting the 4 NY Hunter masks and i crashed before i was able to pick them up
but i got the key so screw it im never doing that crap that requires shooting the stars and then day and night cycle to shoot windows and all of that BS ever again
azure lintel
Farming coyotes mask is so painful
oak prawn
RNG ether hates or loves you
No in between
Ya ether get the item right away or it takes 3 hours
This is why I don't plug controler into my pc
But I can understand some people are more comfortable playing pc games with a controller
hybrid ore
@azure lintel Are you following the farming method?
Then either +Directives or Countdown.```anb enemy coming out of a heli landed on me and insta killed me
i got fucking trampled
hybrid ore
Tele-fragged, you don't see that much in games anymore.
grats!
frozen meadow
no i didnt get fragged
i got fucking trampled
there was literally no other enemies on the map
hybrid ore
"Tele-fragged" is a very old term where an enemy spawning in occupies the same space as you, and kills you.
Originally from IIRC Doom/Quake where if you stand on a teleporter and someone uses it, you die.
frozen meadow
oh i thought you meant you just die randomly from an enemy
mossy yoke
guys anyone wanna do legendary roosavelt we need 2 more high lvls .. DM me if u down
or add me i have same name and pic as here
reef reef
guys anyone wanna do legendary roosavelt we need 2 more high lvls .. DM me if u ...
Use the LFG channels
pliant sentinel
was there a server restart
frozen meadow
no
tropic breach
Does dying and respawing lessen the rewards or exp if kept dying?
frozen meadow
Does dying and respawing lessen the rewards or exp if kept dying?
no
tropic breach
thank you!
cerulean hawk
Question, Newer player here trying to unlock technician. On state 3 stuck at complete the capital build mission. I've done it 3 times now and still will not complete the mission.
copper shoal
"Tele-fragged" is a very old term where an enemy spawning in occupies the same s...
It was in the good old days,
cerulean hawk
Question, Newer player here trying to unlock technician. On state 3 stuck at com...
Does it have to be done on a harder Difficulty?
frozen meadow
Does it have to be done on a harder Difficulty?
non-invaded normal or higher
cerulean hawk
non-invaded normal or higher
is there a way to turn off invaded?
frozen meadow
yes you go to the difficulty selection menu and "toggle mission mode"
cerulean hawk
yes you go to the difficulty selection menu and "toggle mission mode"
haha ty, that worked.
frozen meadow
wdym coming yesterday
pliant sentinel
around
frozen meadow
??
pliant sentinel
idm my international times
frozen meadow
who told you this
pliant sentinel
the game
frozen meadow
the game doesnt tell you days ahead of time
pliant sentinel
well it wasnt days...it was in 6 hours...
kind veldt
yeah had same to me
frozen meadow
still confused as to what youre referring to
since you said "yesterday"
is it 6am for you?
pliant sentinel
9:33am
undone timber
Fellow Singapore resident I see
pliant sentinel
Fellow Singapore resident I see
suh
frozen meadow
ALSO 27/29 AND NO CAT EARS D:
pliant sentinel
thats what u get
potent condor
"Tele-fragged" is a very old term where an enemy spawning in occupies the same s...
RIVENS
neon wyvern
potent condor
how've you beeeeen
oak prawn
thats what u get
Remi behave
pliant sentinel
sorry
neon wyvern
ALSO 27/29 AND NO CAT EARS D:
just 6 more shd levels...
oak prawn
8?
neon wyvern
I thought it was 3 per crate
oak prawn
Isn't it every 4 levels
neon wyvern
well I think ur wrong
neon wyvern
undone timber
ALSO 27/29 AND NO CAT EARS D:
Almost there fam
undone timber
Its 4
pliant sentinel
4 levels per key
neon wyvern
ok mb then
frozen meadow
does anyone know what the person in lfg means by "firestarter challenge"
undone timber
Maybe it’s a firewall thing or something
neon wyvern
best guess is firewall unlock challenges
undone timber
Or some kind of commendation
frozen meadow
since when did any of them involve firestarters
neon wyvern
There's one that makes you light stuff on fire
frozen meadow
nothing specifically with roosevelt
neon wyvern
interesting
main raven
probably challenge
frozen meadow
probably challenge
wdym
rare vapor
you suceeded
wet island
Is there a channel for Dz?
rare vapor
no? too toxic
sick quarry
How do i get exotic components
main raven
farm heroic countdown for exo caches from the vendor
kind veldt
dz chests
pliant sentinel
yes that
frozen meadow
BRUH 28/29 NO CAT EARS 😭
frosty wadi
BRUH 28/29 NO CAT EARS 😭
I opened 21 of the boxes originally and got not a single cosmetic I wanted from the event
All pants all shoes all glasses
hybrid ore
Well the good news is that since it's guaranteed to not give you repeats and you have another week to go while it's still free to get, just keep on going to get them all.
frosty wadi
I already have all of them
hybrid ore
Loved, lost, got a t-shirt, life stuff in general.
You know how it is.
frozen meadow
remember old apparel events
a teammate just vaulted over the wall into fire instead of reviving me
potent condor
lmao
frozen meadow
then disconnected
hybrid ore
You know what, that seems relatable.
potent condor
sounds like me
frozen meadow
then disconnected
after trying to pop an armour kit in open fire
potent condor
i'd jump into fire too eeve