td2-general-chat

[covert sphinx]

like i completely understand it being insufferable from your perspective

but abstractly that's actually so funny

[river whale]

I think if you just post a crappy build you'll get 69,420 reactions and everyone will laugh, so just do that

[kind veldt]

make your status permanetly red

[frozen meadow]

Before TU19 I got so bored that I just concept arted a lot

[covert sphinx]

nah i posted a crappy build the day i got here and everyone was just like "go get heartbreaker or striker dude" and that was that

[kind veldt]

that works great

[frozen meadow]

Because nothing was difficult

[river whale]

Unlucky.

[covert sphinx]

digital artist?

[frozen meadow]

Nah conceptually

Like I have this idea for a completely bullshit mission for this game

Even picked out a location for it

And by completely.bullshit I mean it

Nobody thinks it's completable

[covert sphinx]

oh, you mean level designer?

[frozen meadow]

Well and some talents n stuff

[covert sphinx]

so gameplay designer

[frozen meadow]

Kinda

[covert sphinx]

okay i fuks with it

[frozen meadow]

I was also justifying some of the bugs and how people shouldn't bully the devs over shit

[river whale]

Can we get a talent that causes all enemies to die instantly when you hit them with a single bullet? I'd call that good gameplay design

[frozen meadow]

And how they're job is hard enough as-is

[reef reef]

i mean you should never bully devs

[frozen meadow]

No shit lol

People thought I was a dev because I was defending them

[covert sphinx]

yeah i imagine things are bad in that regard here, something about the military themes in this game just throw up red flags for me

[frozen meadow]

And the conceptualizing thing it just became a thing ig

[river whale]

Yeah no, the devs work hard. Props to them for working on the game (even though it can be a little buggy at times)

[frozen meadow]

It's complex as hell mechanically

[covert sphinx]

dev harassment is absolutely abysmal in destiny 2, bungie is suing people over it

[frozen meadow]

Don't blame em, I could never pull that shit off

[covert sphinx]

the most prominent CM quit without much warning a while ago and everyone was like "wtf" and a few months later it came out that they'd been getting actually stalked by a player combined with pretty regular death threats and just couldn't take it anymore"

[frozen meadow]

It should be illegal

[river whale]

The Destiny community is definitely one of the rudest, most entitled communities I've ever seen

[frozen meadow]

R6S is hella bad too

[river whale]

The way people talk to their devs is not acceptable, it's insane

[frozen meadow]

I'm more irritated that companies aren't taking action against it

That's why it keeps happening

Anyways it's all those things that made people think I was a dev

[covert sphinx]

yeah i'm super glad bungie's dealing with it legally

[frozen meadow]

I wish Ubisoft followed suit

[covert sphinx]

yeah, hopefully bungie sets a precedent for it

[frozen meadow]

I just want the devs to see some of us actually care

That's why I keep defending them

Because without us speaking up they only receive negativity

[kind veldt]

nah they get positivity also

and if anything they get access to data proving certain things are very successful more than players

[frozen meadow]

Doesn't matter if Twitter blows up with toxicity

[covert sphinx]

i mean hopefully they at least check in on this discord sometimes, it's seemed from just being here for a few days that the general vibe is MUCH more "i want to see these things improve" compared to destiny's "i hate bungie for not improving these things"

[frozen meadow]

That's what I hope, I hope they are just seeing discord and know that I care a lot about this game

[kind veldt]

if iam giving actual feedback i do act neutral

devs do care

that much i can say

[covert sphinx]

yeah i think that's easily forgotten

and i also think that's more obvious in this game than in destiny. sorry to keep bringing destiny up, i just know it way better

like having played this game briefly in 2021, 2022, and now 2023, the changes have been noticeable and generally positive

[frozen meadow]

I've played since launch

[kind veldt]

i mean it's both games are called d2

[covert sphinx]

tru

and i do think they're the most easily compared

[frozen meadow]

Well I'm going to bed goodnight

[covert sphinx]

cya

[river whale]

I don't mind Destiny but playing that game burns me out so bad.

So much less loot, so much more work, and the community is... oh god. I hate LFGing.

[covert sphinx]

i've had decent success with lfg, i can finish raids with an lfg group more often than not

i just crossed 3k hours a bit ago so i'm at the point where even if i haven't completed everything, i definitely know everything i can do

and i'm good enough to do any of it, it's really just a matter of whether or not i really care about trying to flawless raids or solo flawless dungeons or whatever, and i kind of just don't

i solo flawless'd the duality dungeon, i don't mind that being my crowning achievement in destiny 2

[kind veldt]

dont like their expansion system

[covert sphinx]

so fair

[river whale]

I'm probably the middest Destiny player ever. I have some exotics, I've done some raids, but never super eloquently and I definitely don't carry much of anything. Very fun game though sometimes, runs well on my PC

[kind veldt]

simple as, gameplay is good in most part

[river whale]

Also, yes, the expansions are ✨ expensive✨

[kind veldt]

and i dont like paying for 3 bad ones to have access to the 4th good one

[reef reef]

A friend of mine asked me a few weeks back during the Frankengun weekend why i wasnt taking advantage of the bug to complete all the dungeons solo flawlessly- i just didnt want to. Some of the dungeons have some cool solo / flawless / solo flawless cosmetics but i've already got the ones i want, so i was never really wanting to do them, and doing them with the frankenguns would kinda feel... not real, y'know? I dont really care if others did it, good on ya for doing it one way or another, but i've gotten all my stuff my way, the way i wanted to.

I'm glad there are people that understand that.

[covert sphinx]

that bug was the one weekend my girlfriend was visiting so neither of us could take advantage of it l m f a o

[kind veldt]

what was the frankegun incident

is it a gun that shoots franks?

[reef reef]

i also understand disliking D2's expansion system, i'm also not the biggest fan of it, but i've routinely gotten more than the 100$ i've gotten out of it from playing with friends, so theres that.

[covert sphinx]

you were able to combine the frames of one gun into the perks of another

[river whale]

Imagine you can take an exotic perk from any gun and put it on another gun.

[covert sphinx]

so you could combine a shotgun and a grenade launcher, and instead of pellets, it would shoot heavy ammo grenades

[kind veldt]

yeah thats good enough

[stone summit]

not only exotic perk but can use all perk on all weapon

[kind veldt]

dumb question

[stone summit]

really funny,

[kind veldt]

that was a bug?

[reef reef]

It was leading to a lot of shenanigans, and easy clears of stuff.

[covert sphinx]

yes

[stone summit]

yes

[kind veldt]

i mean we did have the minigun damage stack here

some people definetly took milage out of that during that time

[stone summit]

but i think they can make an event with that idea

[kind veldt]

i honestly wonder wjhat happened codding wise in that bug

[reef reef]

Yeah, major crafting bug. Intentionally clicking on two different weapons in the crafting menu at nearly the same time would combine them, using the frame of the weapon you started on and the damage profile and other perks of the second weapon.

[covert sphinx]

i managed to get really drunk and play a grandmaster nightfall with some of my friends who had stupid weapons while my gf was here but that was it

[kind veldt]

its funny how buggy games are

[covert sphinx]

i got 2 terrible warden's laws

[kind veldt]

just a lot goes unoticed by everyone

[stone summit]

imagine if telesto was craftable

yeah destiny and bug long love story i think

[kind veldt]

nah just most games in general

[reef reef]

I just farmed out a bunch of ascendant shards while it was around. I would have done it regardless, and i still ran like, 40-odd GM nightfalls that weekend, as i would have done normally. They were just faster, lol.

[stone summit]

true 😦

[kind veldt]

well i did get an EB by taking advantage of the fact raid drops are on incursions

[stone summit]

oh really ? don't know that ty

i already have it but nice to know 😮

[kind veldt]

EB and revanous

[past ridge]

When is the Apparel drop guys?

[kind veldt]

not regulus

[river whale]

I don't care about anything in Destiny besides the fashion. The fashion is the real endgame

[reef reef]

That is also understandable.

[stone summit]

skin before the skill totaly agree !

[kind veldt]

my agent probably spent too much time dressed as HUNK

[river whale]

Looking good is 50% of your DPS anyways????? like...

[kind veldt]

thank god that costume came out great

[stone summit]

and imagine being ugly in cutscene ! NO I CANT

[reef reef]

I'm still a bit annoyed that Starfire got an ornament the season it got nerfed. Happens everytime.

[stone summit]

hunk skin was really incredible !

[river whale]

I SWEAR???? what is up with that, they do it every single time

[reef reef]

Atleast the starfire nerf cemented me as a Strand/Voidlock, instead of a solar/strandlock. I do have to thank bungie for that one.

Of course if i'm the only warlock i wont complain, but thats neither here nor there.

[river whale]

I am a certified ad clear andy. One of my favorite builds is Trinity Ghoul ArcLock.

Not a lot of my builds are good for the DPS side of things, mostly ad clear. I love Hunter too.

[covert sphinx]

my gyrfalcon's hunter fashion is peak and no one can convince me otherwise

idek where to post it

[reef reef]

Not here, realistically.

[covert sphinx]

but i legitimately adore my gyrfalcon's hunter fasion

weh

[reef reef]

Regardless, i've realized this is general- hows the manhunt going for you gamers?

[river whale]

I had a pretty fire red and grey look going on with one of Lucky Pants' ornaments. But yes, moving on - I have done absolutely nothing with the manhunt.

I think I'm just lazy or playing too much Countdown.

[covert sphinx]

i basically just. did it and forgot about it

it's not hard

[kind veldt]

incursion is eating all my free time

god knows how many chances i will get to get a raid exotic

and i aint going to DZ

[reef reef]

I've been working on the manhunt, no reason to rush.

[kind veldt]

honestly surprised we werent rescuing a main target

cause they are really making hunters be main plot

[covert sphinx]

it wasn't particularly hard. can easily be done on normal mode in an hour or less

[frank bobcat]

jus we could get a man hunt wit only hunters… and tha very last hunter is a big man hunter (like in PL)

[vale dust]

Hello guys might be at the wrong place but I never played Tom Clancy expect splinter cell in ps1 which one I can start with and the most populated ?

I’m confused there is too many and their all like free in psn plus

[river whale]

The Division 2 has the larger playerbase and the most content. Play the first Division game for the story, if you're interested.

[vale dust]

Appreciate the answer would you say it’s beginner friendly or it had a deep learning curve ?

[river whale]

You won't need to worry about complex buildcrafting until endgame activities. The game has tutorials and a full story, so you'll be guided through most of the main game.

The Warlords of New York expansion (costs extra) raises the level cap of your character to 40 and unlocks significantly more endgame content as well, but it's not required for the main story.

[vale dust]

Ahhh so you can play comparing solo or co op . It’s not like different maps and multiplayer ?

I meant compaign not comparing sorry

[river whale]

No, the game has one shared open world that can be played alone or with up to four players.

There are also other locations that house different content - you'll load into those from the map.

[vale dust]

Ah i see cool you would recommend then finishing story solo and then trying co op ?

[reef reef]

oh i imagine R6 has the larger playerbase, but thats not the same type of game, and probably not what they were askin

[river whale]

The story should be your main priority, it is your choice if you want to play it alone or with friends! When playing with friends, the story content is automatically balanced, and underleveled players get boosted to the player with the highest level.

[river whale]

Yeah, that's what I figured as well.

[oak prawn]

The main story is very interesting

[vale dust]

Alright makes sense thank you for the explanations ! It’s been downloaded can’t wait

[river whale]

Of course! Have fun :D

[oak prawn]

Just have fun and enjoy as I told another person don't even worry about builds or any of that until you reach WTs(world tiers)

[brisk copper]

Is there Maintanace tonight.

[opal radish]

No

[brisk copper]

Thankyou.

[onyx furnace]

for flawless if you down you can just tp back to the start and hit replay yeah dont need to town again

[oak prawn]

i think its every tuesday

i could be wrong

if im wrong someone will correct me

[bitter wraith]

Do we know what time?

[oak prawn]

idk

prob already happened

[inner elbow]

In an hour

[oak prawn]

what they said ^

[kind dagger]

I actually forgot entirely about reset

[teal sinew]

did they jack up the price of proficiency levelling?

a gun to get to level 1 requires 300 steel?!? i don’t remember it being so high

[full zinc]

no. it'll still cost you 300 printer filament each level, or 3000 PF for each item you make proficient... if its only costing you 300 steel a level then its actually cheaper.

[west ether]

just ran the incursion and the box was open so i dont think it reset

is it thursday?

[rich shadow]

Went well, Strikers + Ouroboros works so well. Killing a named dude in under a clip doesn't get old very quicky.

[halcyon radish]

donno, just finished one and it's an empty chest

[forest wave]

Currently Incursion chests are bug they already open when u finish the incursion

[opal radish]

m870

[fair lake]

You prefer striker 100 stacks or 200?

[fair lake]

The problem is, we sometimes get the key from the chest during the run, but can't open it ^_^

[kind dagger]

Ouro works better with 200. Fast rpm with hits on target means you can maintain close to max stacks pretty well. Will be pretty good for optimal dps

I’m probably gonna get up and make a 200 stack build rn. Pair it with Lefty and in about two drums you’ll be at max stacks to rip away with Ouro

[fair lake]

I've played a bit with ouro and after Elmo it's so unusual to see enemies not being staggered by shock

[forest wave]

today is weekly reset you finish incursion you get the weekly key but the chest is already open so its bugged

[kind dagger]

Elmo is a great weapon for sure and holds its own in mid range engagements but ouro excels in cqc

[reef vapor]

the meret chest is 2 weeks reset?

[pliant sentinel]

should be 1 week right

same as raids

[reef vapor]

donno maybe the dev want to troll us

[pliant sentinel]

theyve trolled us enough

[opal radish]

I use rock n roll go to 200 and ouroboros keeps up the stacks

[kind dagger]

W

Question, if i mark gear set items as junk, can it get auto donated into expertise? I’m trying to convert like 30 pieces of gear from countdown but it won’t let me

[full zinc]

Yes you are able to mass donate junk.
You may have to hit the donate buttons a few times to get it to take everything . Ymmv as a lot of people have had issues donating junk.
Already proficient items wont donate but these can be deconstructed and the materials can be donated to individual items.

[kind dagger]

So if im proficient with the striker battle set, those armor pieces won’t contribute to expertise donation?

[full zinc]

Correct, not as item donation anyways.
Each item in expertise bench can be entered and there is an option to donate materials.
Deconstructed junk gives a host of materials that can be donated. I usually donated protective fabric and receiver parts (keeping around 2000 in stock for projects).
Just be careful because there is an option to donate all materials, and it will take everything 💀

My work flow for donations was
Mark as junk > check library for any attributes > donate junk at expertise > decom and donate mats I dont need

[kind dagger]

I’m unsure of the best way to get my expertise level up since i havent contributed to it much. Im only lvl 3 and it seems like i can’t do much

[full zinc]

Target weapons. Slowest category to level.
Craft 20 of each improvised item to donate.
If you have some shd scavenging points you can also use as cash and buy items from vendors.
Weapons and named are 20 items for proficient.
Gear and brand sets are 100 items for proficient (named brand pieces dont contribute to brand level)
Named items are 30shd>cash to buy 20.

Use different skills and specializations to get them leveled because its 300shd to make these proficient with SHD>printer filament donation

[kind dagger]

Alright I’ll try to work on it

And say a full set of a gear set is equipped at once, although it’s not recommended. The more gear you’re using, the faster it’ll level towards proficiency?

[full zinc]

Generally yeah.
But you are better off just putting a sub optimal piece or 2 in a solid builds like striker or eclipse. Most of the time those gearsets can carry a crap piece and still work well

[full zinc]

What is your current shd

[rich shadow]

200

[kind dagger]

1025

[left mica]

Bighorn drop in DZ...so close to a raid exotic, and yet so far...

[full zinc]

Ok, when you hit like 1400< I would consider creating a new agent > boost 30> run through wony
This will duplicate shd watch including all scavenging.
It has more worth the higher your shd is.

Your current level would see 235 scavenging usable when an alt is complete. This would proficient 7 named items if used as cash and purchase named from vendors.
It's basically current shd-800 to know what you get.
1400 is 600 scavenging

[kind dagger]

I’ll see to it when i level up that far and ask again, although i think i got the concept down. I’ll run through as much of this as i can in the meantime

[broken solstice]

600 scav points doesnt seem worth a wony run

[hearty briar]

F for the incursion final chest.

[real creek]

Should just wony run all 4 characters and just worry about deleting and rerunning one after you feel it's worth it. I mostly use wony as a optimization mats character and never for proficiency.

[real creek]

We as a group had 3 drop on wright last night, 2 of them for me. Just get to running it.

[hearty briar]

We just cleared it. The chest hasn't reset.

[ember jewel]

is there any good content after 5 month vacum?

[hearty briar]

New Incursion.

[ember jewel]

what is that mode btw?

[tender wave]

Mini raid

[ember jewel]

does elmo getting nerf or still same like first appereance?

[real creek]

Elmo is still just okay. Don't worry no nerf incoming. Now the ouro.... Probs gonna get a nerf.

[ember jewel]

well after reading new season patch i get it why ouro getting nerf

[surreal charm]

It seems that Incursion and descent are bugged. Descent after defeated Nemesis I got 2 caches. Incursion the box is still open

[sullen wolf]

did anyone opened incursion box today?

[real creek]

The ouro is aprox 60% more damage than the famas which is the highest DPS AR.

[fair lake]

I don't want this to be fixed

2 caches I mean

[ember jewel]

wew that really high damage

[real creek]

Was it one weekly reward and one for killing him?

[real creek]

I think it was azurmen who pointed out yesterday that the ouro on an all blue strikers will out DPS a famas on a full red striker.

[timber hatch]

Tbf it was 60% in the pts, the release version is only 50% ahead of a FAMAS without a talent, 40% vs a FAMAS with strained

[real creek]

50.9% with no talent. Yeah they did take off that 10% ROF. So what do you think the gun would need as a nerf to not be so much of a difference? Honestly the BRRRRR sound is iconic and you can tell instantly when someone is using one so ROF should stay but man a hit to damage would just suck no matter how you slice it.

I mean personally I think they should just buff the rest of the exotics and call it a day. Give us interesting stuff to build around.

[prisma flicker]

Why do people want the Ouro nerfed in PVE?

[kind veldt]

Why use anything that is miles worse

[real creek]

I don't want it but it's common sense.

[fluid meadow]

Even the striker's focus build?

[prisma flicker]

Yeah, but if it’s too powerful, don’t use it?

It’s not as if the enemies have Ouro

[opal radish]

Yeah

[fathom lynx]

is there a way to get rid of this glitch on my armor having one of the cosmetic vests showing up. youd think it got fixed by now

[opal radish]

And they should never have cause it will be quick death

[fathom lynx]

i want to see the heartbreaker vest but its showing up as a cosmetic vest from a different loadout..

[timber hatch]

The majority of exotics have always had the base damage and rpm of the gun it's an exotic version of. But with ouroboros they massively raised the rpm and kept the same base damage, so imo that's where it needs to be balanced. Personally I'd love a vector that had an extended mag that gave it a comparable damage per mag of other weapons. That alone would make it a top tier but not necessarily completely busted weapon.

[opal radish]

I wish they buffed elmos same way as ouro give it 15% more rof than bas m4

[mighty matrix]

Soo, nobody was able to loot the incursion chest after reset right?

[real creek]

Cooler if they gave it to the base damage.

[fluid meadow]

So ouro is your best choice for burst dps?

[timber hatch]

Yes, by a mile

[real creek]

Best choice for any auto fire build.

[opal radish]

M4 but with base DMG of king breaker

[frozen meadow]

They're gonna have to nerf it

[opal radish]

No competition

I guess only scorpio comes close

If you hit all 8 pellets

[kind veldt]

Where does acs 12 goes in that scale

[fluid meadow]

We did notice a dps difference on lovebirds when the 3 dps chose ouro instead of elmo

Johnson couldn't even deploy support station

[opal radish]

Yeah ouro is busted

I used acs to stack 200 than ouro

[fluid meadow]

Guess it's one of those weapons i'll use components on

[surreal charm]

Exotic caches and descent cache. That was all

[fluid meadow]

But it already has a ton of dps so it might as well a cherry on top to have it at 20

[frozen meadow]

OuroBoros brought me from 22 to 30+

[real creek]

22? 30+? What are these numbers?

[frozen meadow]

Burst dps

[opal radish]

You are wrong on that

[frozen meadow]

I literally tested it id know

[opal radish]

30mil dps I don't think you can reach that with super 90

[opal radish]

In range ?

[frozen meadow]

No

[opal radish]

Than where

[frozen meadow]

Open world

[opal radish]

Mhh I don't think you can reach that dps solo

We can use the sheets

[frozen meadow]

It's ouro yes you can

[opal radish]

Last I checked it was 25mil

[frozen meadow]

I've seen mine hit 1.6 per shot with team buffs

[opal radish]

There you have it I said solo

[frozen meadow]

I know solo it's just over 1 mil

[opal radish]

Than it's not possible

[frozen meadow]

It literally is

I did it lmao

[opal radish]

It's math

What was the rof with striker?

[frozen meadow]

Your math is shit

1688

[opal radish]

Ok 1688/60=28.13

That 1 mil was head crit right?

[frozen meadow]

Yes

It's just over 1 mil and then tack expertise on that I added after testing

[opal radish]

Than if we multiple it 28.13 bullets per second

[frozen meadow]

Just about 30+

[opal radish]

Also 59% CHC

You can calculate it it ain't gonna be that much

[frozen meadow]

Isn't CHC not calculated when referring to burst

Only sustained

[timber hatch]

No....

[opal radish]

It is calculated fyi @timber hatch

[lofty breach]

does incursion reset today?

[frozen meadow]

Someone told me it wasn't

[opal radish]

Someone told ya wrong

[frozen meadow]

Ok give me about an hour and I'll try to rerun the numbers

[opal radish]

Ok

It should be about 24mil dps to head from dods video iirc

[fluid meadow]

With expertise?

[opal radish]

Mhh have to watch it again

But expertise 20 is like ~4-5% dps iirc

[timber hatch]

It's more than that, roughly 10%

[opal radish]

on an all red build?

[iron gust]

So incursion chest bugged?

[timber hatch]

You generally have 130% WD. +24% WD is just over 10% more damage

[real creek]

Yeah I always saw 8% as the actual DPS before higher expertise.

[opal radish]

Yeah I am doing it RN can confirm

[timber hatch]

8% is 20 experience

[opal radish]

Ok

[reef vapor]

Is the meret cache still bug?

[agile pendant]

what bug is that?

[past ridge]

bug or the reset of incursion is not today?

lack of communication lmao they just said weekly xD

[azure lintel]

Yeah i just ran one and crate is still open for me

[reef vapor]

U cant open it this week if u already open it last week, the reset day is completed tho

[kind veldt]

you can also get raid exotics from them

[frozen meadow]

Nerds I already got my second key

[kind veldt]

but did you get the secondbox?

[agile pendant]

they'll reset it later this week then probably

[frozen meadow]

No 😭

[past ridge]

yea or the usual Content Maintenance tomorrow or Thursday

[agile pendant]

L + ratio + get carried

[frozen meadow]

Get carried wut

Do you have wrights mask

[agile pendant]

almost did 🤫 🤭 until the rando got impatient and ruined the no drop run

[frozen meadow]

Get ratioed

[agile pendant]

btw can you share gear between characters??

[past ridge]

yes, Chest drop is per character too.

[meager pewter]

What is the probable reason i can't TP to camp white oak?

nevermind, the other dude as the party leader

[kind veldt]

dumb question anyone knows if the world scalling affecting some of the incursion is true or not?

[crystal skiff]

So when does the incursion reset?

[pliant sentinel]

is it not reset yet?

[crystal skiff]

I tried to open the chest 2 hours ago and it was already open…

Like it didn’t reset

[real creek]

Known bug.

Well "bug", who knows what they intended.

[kind veldt]

you can get the key but not open the box

[pliant sentinel]

maybe there isnt a maintenance today so it didnt reset

[gaunt tendon]

It's true, affects skills that are thrown out like the sniper turret and so on

[frozen meadow]

wait actually its dropping another key for everyone now?

shit i need to get my key today to assert dominance

[kind dagger]

What dominance

[lone valve]

Ye dropped for me too

[kind veldt]

yeah thats why people are saying it's bugged and you should be able to open the box again, never heard of being able to get key and not the box

thought both shared the same cooldown

[frozen meadow]

i got a second key to drop a few days ago

so if i run it again ill have 2 keys

[stone summit]

no

[crystal skiff]

The incursion launched last Tuesday

[stone summit]

you don't loot again a key

[frozen meadow]

i did

i have proof

well not anymore but i did have proof

[crystal skiff]

It’s one week, we should be able to open the box today

[stone summit]

yeah but i don't think you can loot a second one before open chest

[frozen meadow]

you cant

i did

[opal radish]

@frozen meadow can you believe it I cleared incursion 3 times in an hour with 3 randoms

[frozen meadow]

yes

[opal radish]

Lol

[frozen meadow]

1 hour for a run with randoms is eesh

[stone summit]

but yes i have a key too but can't open box u_u

[frozen meadow]

if i run again today ill have two keys

[stone summit]

hum

[frozen meadow]

#ask-td2-community message i got a second key two days ago

[stone summit]

yes same

but today box don't reset

[frozen meadow]

so you have two keys rn?

[crystal skiff]

When is it supposed to reset

[opal radish]

3 runs in 1 hour

[frozen meadow]

you said 3 runs in 3 hours

wait nvm misread

[frozen meadow]

so you currently have 2 keys or

because i opened the box with my first key and then got another key on my 10th run

[stone summit]

no only one

i have use my first and maybe one day ago loot another one

but today box don't reset so can't use it

[real creek]

Yeah I've got an extra key from last week.

[frozen meadow]

whats causing it

whats causing the extra keys cuz theyll never be usable

[hearty briar]

Box is bugged for all.

[opal radish]

I think the reset is fucked up that is why keys are dropping

[frozen meadow]

ignoring that

[hearty briar]

I’d assume that when the box was meant to be opened the first week, the key was meant to be taken.

[stone summit]

key are reset and box not

[frozen meadow]

noctyel we arent talking about reset

[frozen meadow]

yeah you open the chest once per week and get the chest once per week

i got two keys in one week

but you can only open the chest once per week

so i have another key

[hearty briar]

Mhm. Might be the same reason as to why the box hasn’t reset which affects the keys dropping as duplicates. Just funky code

[frozen meadow]

its odd how its very inconsistent

[real creek]

Game is riddled with bugs. It spagetiiiiii

[frozen meadow]

lol

could be worse

[crystal skiff]

Damn

[opal radish]

I thought it was mashed potato

[real creek]

I do feel bad for all the people trying to get the ouro and can't open the box again.

[lone valve]

Bolognese??

[frozen meadow]

also i never knew both lovebirds could both become enraged at th e same time

[opal radish]

Guess 3 hr wony is worth it

[real creek]

uhg it's cold.

[opal radish]

Yeah lol

[lone valve]

It's their wipe mechanic kinda not really

They just send drones that hit hard as hell

[frozen meadow]

the drones also come out if you kill martinez first

[lone valve]

Interesting

Idk if they actually have an actual wipe mechanic that actually forces you to die

[frozen meadow]

and supposedly theres an easter egg if you kill both sets of drones (moss and johnson) in order

theres no wipe mechanic in the entire incursion other than tanker which technically isnt even a wipe

[lone valve]

There is

Wright

If you take too long

[opal radish]

Yeah

[frozen meadow]

does he actually wipe

[lone valve]

Yes

[frozen meadow]

i never knew that lmao

[lone valve]

Everyone dies
He drops the canister and everyone just dies

[frozen meadow]

what canister

[opal radish]

If you take too long like 15-20 mins

[frozen meadow]

jesus christ

[lone valve]

The one he does after every phase

The purple smoke

[frozen meadow]

you have to be really bad to do that

[opal radish]

Bruh my first try

[lone valve]

Day one with randoms was rough

[opal radish]

Didn't know shit and I still haven't watched a video

[lone valve]

Oh yea I also went in blind
So had no idea there was a time limit

[opal radish]

Yeah 3 hr 25mins

[frozen meadow]

not even my first try was that bad

[opal radish]

But you still took more time than me

It was 3hr 55 mins for you

[frozen meadow]

and you know this how

[opal radish]

I checked the leaderboards on my first run

[frozen meadow]

also i had to lfg halfway through because people kept ditching last boss

twice

[opal radish]

Same with me

[frozen meadow]

but wright was easy as hell

took us like 4 tries max

[kind dagger]

Wright is fun

[lone valve]

Wright is easy it's just coordination

And Alot of dps buffs

[frozen meadow]

thats why im saying you have to be just bad to get him to wipe

[lone valve]

Idk day one with randoms
Nobody knew what to do

[kind dagger]

Oh yea, one team i was with was pretty slow. He actually did wipe us

[lone valve]

But like even randoms by now most know what they have to do
(only wish more knew to bait his attack animation so he stands still instead of running through the valves

[kind veldt]

most people i see like to stand inside the circle so he just keeps attacking outside

[lone valve]

Yea no you have to be just outside

[kind dagger]

Gotta be outside the circle

[lone valve]

I learned that very quickly

[kind veldt]

or think water is infinite and keep baiting ot same corner multiple times

at least got my backpack throphy from him

[kind dagger]

Not even something that needs to be learned. Thats practically common sense

[lone valve]

I hate when they decide to go bar but to the farthest circle so I can't even see if he's on the circle or not

[kind veldt]

common sense dictates a lot of things yet we both know that requires more brainpower than we find in random players

[lone valve]

Like bro just take him to the closest circle

[kind dagger]

With a coordinated team, the only thing to worry about is either getting caught by Wrights hardened foam swing with no heals and minigunners after half health dmg phase. Its pretty solid otherwise

[novel laurel]

Key didn't reset in the incursion for me

[lone valve]

Was the box still open for you

Don't tell me they fucked this up.....

[kind dagger]

They might’ve

Imagine you can never open the box again so you gotta pray for that 1% per run

[frozen meadow]

the one where you have to weave between tables to actually get to and 99% of the time get nuked in the process? real

[novel laurel]

Yep it was

[lone valve]

The only good bar spot is the one closest to the door

[lone valve]

😐

[frosty wadi]

Well I mean if you vault write vaults too so that’s helpful there

[lone valve]

I'm not even saying as the one being chased
Me using the valve has no visibility of the other bar circles other than the closest one

[alpine gale]

u got to love rng 67 re craft to get oburus smg to roll targets out of cover lol

[tulip moon]

Yikes not even worth Will be nerfed to the ground 100%

[alpine gale]

@tulip moon thats so true as soon as i get a exotic like that nerfed soon

[tulip moon]

My 0 Expertise oro out dps all my AR builds that are 15+ Expertise.

[frosty wadi]

Yea bar is easily the worst

[tulip moon]

And the Talent is not even working most of the time...

[frozen meadow]

at least needs a 20% nerf

[lone valve]

Nerf rof make talent good

[tulip moon]

Yeah

[frosty wadi]

Talent needs a buff if the gun gets nerfed yeah

[alpine gale]

only guns i maxed expertise atm or my mantis one shot solo build love it and elmos the smg dropped from 1st runt he chest at end along with eagle which i already got but atleast will never have to run that mode again lol

yeah true i cant get the talent to proc only in the dz when friends chem me lol

like is their any mobs in the game pve that can get the talent to proc when ur using it

[chilly shore]

i just did two cleaner activities, why my daily project is not progressing?

[frozen meadow]

idk what the daily project is

[neon wyvern]

It probably involves stranded tanker

[chilly shore]

stranded tanker?

[real creek]

A really fun mission.

Really it's just a lot of running and waiting.

[neon wyvern]

If Riker always has wall street surely the cleaner project has stranded tanker as part of its requirements

[chilly shore]

i did stranded tanker and pathway park, both should be counted as cleaner activities right? but why its not progressing?

[real creek]

Activities and missions are two different things.

[chilly shore]

ah ok

[real creek]

Activities are like public execution, territory control, prop broadcast, stuff like that.

[chilly shore]

ok thanks

[kind dagger]

Were there more incursions back in D1? You think they’ll add a new one every season or two

[lone valve]

They said if feedback is good on this one
They said why not

[inner elbow]

meanwhile the tank in my team:
I have Perfect Unbreakable, we won't wipe.

[lone valve]

But doubt for next season or even the one after that

[kind dagger]

I find this incursion to be pretty fun. Hope some more come out

[lone valve]

They'll definitely notice how excited everyone was for this one
And most are liking it
It wouldn't make sense to not have another one

[agile pendant]

its good with a decent team but stoopid players ruin it, avoid rando runs for it

[oak prawn]

Not all random runs are bad

[fathom lynx]

the snitch is fighting a control point with me 😭

[oak prawn]

Alough finding competent players who can listen and use thier brain is another story

[kind dagger]

Still trying to hopefully get a team together and go for flawless. It’s pretty annoying though

[agile pendant]

that game mode is too hard for anyone to be ignorant or selfish.

[covert sphinx]

shd level 69. officially not allowed to level anymore

[kind dagger]

Noice

Now get to 6969 agent

[neon wyvern]

good luck

[opal radish]

I might have that ss saved

[covert sphinx]

the real goal is 69420

[opal radish]

420 lol

[covert sphinx]

lmao

[ripe gate]

should i try doing flawless PL for the mask?

can we cheese bosses?

[wintry wraith]

I don't think the bosses like cheese

@kind veldt u there?

[ripe gate]

i'm talking achiles pulse, dodge city holster type cheese

[covert sphinx]

whoosh

[ripe gate]

?

[kind veldt]

'sup

[wintry wraith]

Another round of flawless?

[kind veldt]

right now?

sure

[opal radish]

Me too

@wintry wraith one more spot?

[wintry wraith]

Sure

[opal radish]

Ign:nerfking6950

[kind dagger]

You can cheese it like that yea. Just need like a 900M dmg output

[covert sphinx]

any chance anyone feels like running invaded missions with me?

[opal radish]

@wintry wraith @kind veldt which room 👀

[ripe gate]

got it, ty

[celest marten]

Assuming the patch for paradise lost chest isn’t until tomorrow?

[near meadow]

Heyo

Any intel on Chest

is it bugged ?

we just cleared and its open and we only got one key

[kind dagger]

I love when people can’t read. I specify Flawless, they join, we wipe at Wright, they leave

[inland crescent]

yea chest is open .. .😣 i guess no reset

[agile pendant]

question regarding flawless how do you reset the run??

start again??

[kind dagger]

Yea. Back to DC and back into PL if youre anywhere past first encounter

[inland crescent]

for a full flawless run for the mask you have to reset the entire incursion, for flawless just to get wright back pack trophy you can keep trying the fight with wright

[karmic cosmos]

You don't need to go back to DC, just restart the mission from within PL

[inland crescent]

yea no need to go back just reset

[kind dagger]

Im probably just slow. How do i reset from within the mission again

[inland crescent]

i wanna know who popped our chest open at final boss lol ... someone stealing all our oroboros's haha

[karmic cosmos]

It's at the begining of the mission, just like other missions, you are able to interact with mission options, matchmaking etc.

[kind dagger]

Oh i know that, but i can only do that if we don’t get past turrets

I can’t fast travel back to the start, just takes me to the checkpoint of the encounter we’re at

[covert sphinx]

i've got 1500 countdown requisitions, should i drop them on exotic caches or optimization caches

[kind dagger]

Exo. You’ll get plenty of SHD and Field Calibration stuff from good heroic runs

[covert sphinx]

huh, got doctor home. does that suck

also is dttoc the attribute you'd want on lady death

[cinder nacelle]

I thought I could use it in a healer load out but the scope made it unusable for me. 😕

[covert sphinx]

i mean in theory it seems kind of decent, but i can't imagine it being any better than scorpio or something

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah in theory it should be great for healing but I couldn't deal with actually trying to use it in combat. It's a shame because with the remodel it actually looks cool compared to before.

[opal radish]

@kind veldt @wintry wraith so close 😿

[wintry wraith]

lol we will get it

[opal radish]

Yeah

[sharp pebble]

hey guys, new player here, I'm wondering what the best use of "trash" loot is? Should I be scrapping it for materials? Selling it? Or donating it for this expertise thing?

[kind veldt]

hey at least we got an ouroboros out of it

[opal radish]

You got it lol

[kind veldt]

well shared

[wintry wraith]

tyty for the ob <3 lol

[opal radish]

Yeah doesn't matter as long as you have it

[sudden meadow]

Prioritize trash loot in order: Fill out recalibration library -> donate to expertise -> Scrap for mats -> sell

[real creek]

I personally pick up all loot as junk right off the ground unless I see something I should keep then it's pick up as fav. Otherwise do like said above but keep an eye on your mat totals if they are about to max out you can donate some mats to seasonal/hard to find items.

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah filter loot at pick-up and that saves you a lot of inventory management.

[dire hull]

Ciao ragazzi ho bisogno di una mano a completare il raid cavallo d’acciaio, per prendere la regulus

Qualcuno disponibile?

[cosmic epoch]

[real creek]

There are raid LFG channels for that.

[cosmic epoch]

Bot

[opal radish]

Yeah

[sharp pebble]

alrighty, thanks Lyinoats and Souless13

[real creek]

Dude just asked for help getting a regulus?

[modern vapor]

what % should you try and have with striker in relation to damage and critical chance

[full zinc]

50% with coyote, else 60%

[opal radish]

50/117 for focus striker with Coyote

Assuming mid buff

You can have 59chc with striker too assuming close range buff

[dire hull]

Hi guys I need to take the regulus and I would need help, could anyone do it?

[opal radish]

Bit generally it close to 60% without coyote in the equation

[opal radish]

@real creek

[modern vapor]

ok cool I have 45 at the moment so I just need to do a small bit of shuffle

[real creek]

I don't even know what a regulus is....

[opal radish]

It's going to take 3 run 1 fresh each week

[real creek]

Also I'm pc and they xbox yo.

[opal radish]

Deconstruct your regulus than

[dire hull]

I need regulus

[real creek]

I mean I have parts sitting around for a third one so sure.

[opal radish]

Deconstruction of all parts

Just take their soul

[modern vapor]

is ridgeway pride project any worth in doing ?

[real creek]

I find doing everything is cool.

[full zinc]

Easy exotic to breakdown without regret

[modern vapor]

good

[kind veldt]

dumb question

if you craft one while someone is in the group

can you gift that person?

[full zinc]

If you do floors weekly then yes, finish the project. After project complete when its decon or on another agent the boxes will keep dropping the components. And it can be crafted again

[tender skiff]

Hello

[fervent lava]

No

[kind veldt]

damn guess i cant bribe people with handsome good looks to give me one

[kind dagger]

What’s the optimal dps of Striker with Ouro? Is it supposed to be around 21M

[fervent lava]

Dont know about DPS
But it can crit like about 850K - 1Mil+

[pliant sentinel]

how does one make the game run smoother

everytime i turn my game freezes

[covert sphinx]

lower graphics settings?

[fervent lava]

1 - Run on Fullscreen(Windowed)

[pliant sentinel]

im fucked

[frozen meadow]

sounds like just a bad pc (not trying to be rude here)

[pliant sentinel]

thats it

[fervent lava]

Maybe decrease resolution or run on windows mode

[pliant sentinel]

im bringing my 1886 and finding the nearest fox

[frozen meadow]

D:

what specs do you have

[pliant sentinel]

i didnt check, i just switched bootdrive today

tbf its a really old com so ur like 90% right

[amber meteor]

when does the incursion reset?

[pliant sentinel]

probably next weekly maintenance

devs probably messed up the timer on the box so we gotta wait

[kind dagger]

L

[frozen meadow]

ive been told thursday

but that could be wrong

[neon wyvern]

what

[fervent lava]

Isin't it Tuesday

[neon wyvern]

so it's not end of week

[frozen meadow]

i was told thursday so idk

[sharp pebble]

oh and btw, why does my agent put away his skills whenever I press Q to aim them somewhere?

I can't ever seem to just place a skill where I want to, having to double press Q to instant place it

[pliant sentinel]

u gotta change it in keybinds

[sharp pebble]

I've also rebound instant use skill to Shift + Q or E and that doesn't do anything

[pliant sentinel]

theres auto place and aim place

[real creek]

Sticky skill aims when it's pulled out and will go away if you try to aim.

[sharp pebble]

right, so, there's no difference in instant use and "use agent skill" for me

and when I press Q, and it pulls out the skill right

it puts it away right away

I'm not pressing any other buttons 🙂

so like press Q
Agent takes out skill
aim shows up > moves mouse to aim (not pressing anything)
agent puts skill away before I can throw it

[real creek]

Do you have the cool skills directive on?

It's currently bugged.

[sharp pebble]

ah

I guess that does it

has it been bugged for a long time?

I guess no extra xp for me :/

[frozen meadow]

since tu19

[real creek]

mah 25% xp rip. I feel ya. Just happened with the new season.

[covert sphinx]

is the donate all junk button in expertise broken

[frozen meadow]

No

[kind dagger]

I have no idea. I questioned that earlier

[frozen meadow]

I've been using it

[covert sphinx]

every time i use it nothing happens

[frozen meadow]

Is it marked as junk

[full zinc]

can just swap skills around if wanting to use. not gonna be good for chems... but anything you can double click to place/fire will still work

[covert sphinx]

yes

[frozen meadow]

Is the proficiency max

[covert sphinx]

lmfao

[spice zinc]

we just finished incursion and the chests are open and we cant claim rewards. is this a bug?

[frozen meadow]

Hasn't reset yet

[covert sphinx]

no, the proficiencies are not maxed. i'm expertise level 1

[frozen meadow]

Expertise level is not the same as proficiency level

[spice zinc]

wym reset is today a few hours ago

[frozen meadow]

The incursion hasn't reset yet

[kind dagger]

The chest anyways

[spice zinc]

when is chest reset?

[frozen meadow]

Yeah

Shrug

[real creek]

When you exit so you see any +1s above your head?

[full zinc]

unknown at this point

[covert sphinx]

no

[frozen meadow]

I think you're just donating to max proficiency things

Cuz I've tested it and it defo works

[full zinc]

could post a screenshot of some of the junk that didnt donate in #ask-td2-community

[spice zinc]

so theres no fix or way to open the chest even though we had the key?

[modern vapor]

just got a ninjabike from hard viewpoint

[full zinc]

not at this point

[real creek]

Go to an item marked as junk. Is it rank 10?

[frozen meadow]

^

[covert sphinx]

okay i think i'm just braindead, the junk in my inventory's gone now

so it must have worked, i just don't know why the button didn't fade out

[frozen meadow]

Bruh

The button never fades out

[real creek]

It happens to the best of us.

[full zinc]

it doesnt give any audible or confirmation

[covert sphinx]

i was expecting it to gray out like every other button does when there's nothing else you can do with it

[real creek]

I just press and hold a couple times.

I mean it's rare anymore that I have something. Just getting to that point.

[frozen meadow]

All I have is the new stuff

[real creek]

I haven't done that yet. Just gonna wait for targeted loot.

[full zinc]

just throw mats at it. it goes away really quick that way 😅

then its back to z to pickup loot

[real creek]

I run WONY for optimization not expertise levels.

[full zinc]

is that like a moral highground type of thing 🤣

[real creek]

It's a lazy thing

[full zinc]

i mean. its more wark farming and donating gear than wony/mats donate.. like a lot more work

wony would be the lazy thing

[real creek]

But I might need that expertise if I wanna one shot wright...

[real creek]

Wony is work, playing and hitting donate isn't really work to me.

[full zinc]

what are you sitting at for expertise

[real creek]

19

[oak prawn]

Hello

[full zinc]

i mean, wony is story mode. you run it for optimization... whats the difference

[real creek]

I run it once in a blue moon. I've done maybe 3 at this point

[full zinc]

also you have enough shd to make it really worth it

[real creek]

Even if I max expertise then I gotta grind exo components to even use it.

[full zinc]

[oak prawn]

Well well look who it is

[full zinc]

it is just playing the game and breaking down mats...

[oak prawn]

Last night I got the mask from Wright

[full zinc]

epic

[kind dagger]

Baller

[oak prawn]

Thankfully the randoms I was with knew what to do so it was quick and easy

[kind dagger]

Rare random W?

[real creek]

Exactly. Having max expertise isn't going to help that if anything it'll pull me from it by doing WONY runs.

[oak prawn]

We did it with 3 strikers 1 healer

[full zinc]

just logged and already a backup call 🍻

[oak prawn]

What shep rank are you?

I don't even wanna know

[real creek]

I wish they gave a collective shepherd rank.

[oak prawn]

I want the commendation for reaching shep rank 25 but im too lazy

[covert sphinx]

what is shep

[oak prawn]

Shepered rank

[real creek]

I probably could have gotten it last season but spilt it between two characters.

[covert sphinx]

shepherd?

[oak prawn]

Im too tired to explain it I'll let Cruz or soul explain it

[lone valve]

I love how everyone says
3 dps 1 healer for lovebirds
Random that's 13k shd puts on striker with 6 blue cores.................

[modern vapor]

shepherd is respond to backup

[oak prawn]

Oh highest shd in my group was 7.8 k

Lowest was 978

[opal radish]

That is my shd lol

[real creek]

Ah yes the SHD which has nothing to do with builds knowledge or how good they are.

[oak prawn]

Are you formly known as go gamer?

[opal radish]

Yes

[real creek]

He da nerf King.

[opal radish]

That's my IGN lol

[real creek]

I'm not wrong tho

[oak prawn]

I've met shds 100s who know more then some higher shds

[opal radish]

Neither was Anbu

[opal radish]

BBS?👀

[real creek]

Exactly. Some people come in here off the rip and make perfect builds right away. Others play solo and think they can do legendary and the incursion cause it works perfect in solo heroic.

[oak prawn]

I am anbu

[opal radish]

Ik

[oak prawn]

When I beat wony I was thrown into the deep end put together a half assed hf build immediately did heroic 6 directive summit with my clan at the time I learned so much from there I was a SHD level 1

[covert sphinx]

i actually want to try the incursion tonight

[lone valve]

Now the tank random went from 6 piece striker tank to USING SHOCKER PUNCH
And a mishmash of brand sets

[oak prawn]

Ad long as your build is decent

[opal radish]

He is a Meta Player

[real creek]

He'll think he's carrying you guys

[opal radish]

Hey soul my friend got Eagle Bearer out of the box

[oak prawn]

I hate when a tank can't tank properly anyone else ?

[covert sphinx]

you know what my build is lol

[oak prawn]

I strictly play dps cause thts what I know how to play

[opal radish]

It's not div1 where we had a better tank

[oak prawn]

I'm the squishy all red guy in the group

[covert sphinx]

yeah that’s what im doing. all red elmo striker

[opal radish]

Drop elmos put on Scorpio for incursion and Run a famas

For incursion

[oak prawn]

Alr im off to go sleep cause I'm weird and Stayed up all night gn

[opal radish]

GN

[oak prawn]

Going to bed at 114 pm in the afternoon 😎

[opal radish]

[covert sphinx]

i do not have a famas

[real creek]

Last week?

[opal radish]

today

[real creek]

Did they not open the box last week? I thought it was bugged.

[opal radish]

yeah it is was buged for me but he got it somehow

i don't even know what is going on

i can't open box

but he did

[full zinc]

still 1 atm.

i bounced as soon as i cot my endorsement. effin guy was trying to hang in cleared areas while the rest move forward

[covert sphinx]

i did wall street on challenging for the season pass project today and it was stupid easy but heroic has that stupid restricted respawn mechanic that i don't want to deal with again lol

i might try it later just because the only reason i had any issues on heroic pentagon was because the emp blocked my reviver hive, without that i might be fine

[real creek]

Just put on tech and drop the hive on the ground.

No mo emp

[covert sphinx]

i haven't leveled technician up yet

i'm almost done with gunner and i've finished specialist, but only those

[real creek]

Well don't sleep on leveling them tho. Get them all done cause they all have powerful uses.

[covert sphinx]

yeah technician's next on the list

after that i might chill on it because i haven't heard of any builds for the other specs i've had any interest in

[pliant trout]

anyone else got the bug where the chest is still open from last week?
ive got the key?

[tulip moon]

Fuck Stranded Tanker.

[wide lotus]

its a bug

everyone who has did it has it mainly @pliant trout so we cant do anyhting but wait

[lone valve]

Yea lol I think I'm gonna relax on the runs till this gets fixed

[wide lotus]

same

[covert sphinx]

i'm hoping i can get a run in today or tomorrow in case it does reset on thursday, so i can get it next week too

[wide lotus]

well it wont reset today so yea

prob gonna have to wait 1 week or so

[covert sphinx]

i haven't run the incursion before though

[wide lotus]

oh then u good

[covert sphinx]

yes

which raid is eagle bearer from?

[kind veldt]

dark hours

[neon wyvern]

paradise lost

[bitter wraith]

Why is finding someone who can do the incursion harder than the actual incursion?

[neon wyvern]

actually

[kind veldt]

because true end game is always PVP

cause if someone using the wrong valves in wright is not a player vs player scenario i dont know what it is

[torn bramble]

Are the Cindy league leader boards for real manning zoo in under 4 minutes . 415000 elite hyenas in less than 12hrs

[bitter wraith]

Ngl the problem was the other tqowo had no clue during the last bosses

[kind veldt]

i dont think we had a single leaderboards without cheating

[frosty wadi]

Is the incursion still not reset

[frozen meadow]

the chest isnt

[frosty wadi]

Of course

[frozen meadow]

solo incursion leaderboard isnt cheated yet

[torn bramble]

The times are unbelievable just makes me think the game is not worth playing sad

[frozen meadow]

if you only play the game to be on the leaderboard then this game is 100% not for you

[bitter wraith]

Is that also for future reference because that means the 4 hours of incursions i did today was pointlesz even if we had succeeded

[frozen meadow]

im not a future predicter so i cant tell you

[bitter wraith]

Lol ok

[torn bramble]

No I don't play for the leader boards but I would like to think the game is fair , but I guess I am just dumb

[frozen meadow]

the game is fair just not the competitive aspect of it

[torn bramble]

Fair comment

[high vector]

Question guys do people still go to the dark zone for loot or it just pvp content?

[proud locust]

Shit I need to solo the Cindy league fast

Usually I use my eclipse load out to kill all enemies

And a flamethrower

Assuming if they have made the enemies moré spongier

Incursión cleaners are extremely sponge bullets without the proper built to break them

The final manhunt is more likely to place certain enemies to outsmart us hard

[kind veldt]

there is one for solo completions?

[frozen meadow]

No

[oak summit]

what happened to the voice channels in this server?

[vestal jungle]

did they fixed the end chest in incursion yet, or talked about it ?

[tulip moon]

just use the other division discord

[oak summit]

right but did something happen

[tulip moon]

no idea

[kind veldt]

if i understood the situation since i arrived late, too many reports of toxicity made ubi think it's better to nuke it than keep

[real creek]

#discord-news Has the post about it. All information is speculation and all we know for sure is it was a ubi legal choice and mods here didn't want it.

[kind veldt]

VCs are pain because you get lot of "he said something nasty" "no i didnt"

[wintry wraith]

Easy to deal with. Just have video proof lol

[hybrid ore]

To clarify, the team didn't have an issue with them, but they're likely not coming back .

[wintry wraith]

How do people be toxic in a team of 4 anyways lol

[hybrid ore]

There's an entire branch of the youtube tree dedicated exactly to detailed instructions on that topic.

[real creek]

This is the internet, some people live to be toxic/racist/sexist/trolls it's like their entire identity. I bet Rivens has insta banned people for stuff that gets modded out quickly on more than one occasion as well as the rest of the mod team.

[bitter wraith]

Imo pointless for loot

Ezpecially the risk factor

[covert sphinx]

but what about the .0024% eagle bearer drop chance??

[frosty wadi]

I tried grinding dark zone last week and in the first 20 minutes one guy was killing the entire lobby and camping the dropped loot

[covert sphinx]

i played for a few hours a few days ago and encountered exactly one person and they weren't rogue so we just ran past each other and that was it

[frosty wadi]

Dark zone simply isn’t worth it for pve players

[wintry wraith]

Ooo I see

[kind veldt]

i mean this is a big server i'm guessing so it will also have a large proportion of bad people due sheer size

you cant escape that, comes with any big game no matter what

forums were extremely chill in tha aspect

[covert sphinx]

i will say the general community in this server at least is much more chill than i'd anticipated. i might have said that last night too actually

[real creek]

I see LOTS of people get banned or leave when they don't get the response they want. Axe them all yo.

[covert sphinx]

makes sense

[elfin heart]

Hey there I’m a returning player I haven’t played since 2nd week of launch and looking to get back into the game does anyone have any tips?

[kind veldt]

enjoy the ride and dont owrry about making builds until you reach the endgame

[covert sphinx]

^^ i'm only a week or so into the game after dropping it for a while, just do what seems fun

[reef reef]

Chillin like a Villain in Tha Aspect

[elfin heart]

Yea you see I’m so lost already I don’t know what to even do

[sharp pebble]

Hey mate, in the same boat basically. I've done the 3 hour reading and youtube watching and can honestly tell you, just enjoy the game. If you're returning and feel overwhelmed, do 1-30 > 30-40 all over again

[molten spire]

where are you? 1-30? World Tiers? Expansion?

[sharp pebble]

anything you do in the game is rewarding, there's no meta that I've found, just do what you enjoy

[elfin heart]

Um let me check

I think im level 30 already not 100% sure

Im world tier 1

Dz 31

I do own the expansion but never played it

[sharp pebble]

you got warlords of newyork expansion?

[molten spire]

they just said they do

[reef reef]

mighta been a "typing too fast to see" moment

[elfin heart]

I literally bought it when I got on it was $10

[molten spire]

anyway, the world tiers are effectively the second half of the campaign

[elfin heart]

And that’s just doing the side quest and stuff I’m guessing

[sharp pebble]

the message wasn't there when I posted mine lol, good looking out though

[molten spire]

you can skip it but I'd recommend it so you can make sense of the parts of the expansion's plot that's tied to Black Tusk

[reef reef]

1-30 (10%) world tier 1-5 (10%) warlords of new york (10%) shd leveling (70%)

[wintry wraith]

Does shd lvl have a max? Lol

[sharp pebble]

nope

[hybrid ore]

You stop gaining bonuses for it at SHD 999, after that it's fairly meaningless.

[wintry wraith]

The grind is real

[elfin heart]

Thank you for the advice everyone

I’ll figure everything out eventually

[bitter wraith]

Ourboros chance from box - 10%
Ravenous chance from IH box - 10%
Eagle bearer chance from box - 10%
Are these all correct?

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[bitter wraith]

Ok so its actually not that likely then

[forest mantle]

anybody know the chances of named drops in DZ? ive trying to get the gift in the current providence DZ loot pool for like the whole day and i havent seen a single one yet

[bitter wraith]

Thought EB was 25%??

No clue why i tvought that

[forest mantle]

im gonna go insane

[magic atlas]

Why not just farm the named item boxes with countdown points?

[forest mantle]

ive yet to try countdown tbh and this seemed liked it would be easier, guess i was wrong lol

[covert sphinx]

countdown is miles better

like orders of magnitude

[magic atlas]

yeah countdown throws loot at you

[forest mantle]

the gift is darkzone exclusive as far as i know and since targeted loot is providence defense currently thought id give it a shot

wasted the whole day lmao

[magic atlas]

I've had gifts drop outside of dz

[neon wyvern]

Named caches

[kind veldt]

named caches has everything named

[covert sphinx]

yeah i was gonna say, countdown itself won't drop it but if you extract with all the hunter dog tags you can get named caches almost constantly

[reef reef]

named caches and some rogue encounters dont go off lightzone/darkzone loot tables, they just decide on a named item and drop it (but not the seasonal ones like sleigher)

[forest mantle]

yeah ik named caches give everything, still thought targeted DZ loot would surely grant me it

[magic atlas]

nope you'll have better luck with the caches

[fiery cloud]

Hey Souless, Gogamer, Rivens, Aspect, Eevee

Hope Everyone is having a Great Reset Day

[covert sphinx]

i think it's also a decent way of getting your chops up in terms of not dying in "harder" content

[bitter wraith]

A specific item? Like 1 in 300

Some guy earlier wanted me to play hardcore because he thinks its more realistic...im not erasing 50 days worth of a character for 'realism'

[kind veldt]

well they forgot to reset incursion

[fiery cloud]

lol aint that normal

😱

[bitter wraith]

And i dont care if 'being in a team means you wont die' yeah...i thought that with the incursion and i was still wrong lmao

[frozen meadow]

Can't count on others to cover up a skill issue

[bitter wraith]

Cant count on a SHD level 300 that didnt have a clue what he was doing

Make that 2 clueless players

2 of them sat in the entrance trying to kill johnson me n the other dps jjust like...yep we gonna die

[magic atlas]

Sounds like a communication issue

[wintry wraith]

Just cause ur in a team doesn't mean ull won't die lol

Dumb logic

[timber hatch]

^

[covert sphinx]

finished gunner. huzzah

[neon wyvern]

and crit chance

[covert sphinx]

finished my first heroic mission solo. feelsgood

[bitter wraith]

fails repeatedly for 2 hours and then does it first try with another team

[bitter wraith]

Exactly

[wintry wraith]

The incursion?

[bitter wraith]

What about the shd watch

[magic atlas]

Could have been carried for all we know

[bitter wraith]

I was the only one who was doing dps but that still wasnt enough

[wintry wraith]

I'm shd 140 and I don't struggle at all, I'm even doing flawless incursion runs and haven't beaten it yet but came pretty close multiple times

All skill bud

[night sphinx]

Guys does anybody know if there is a problem with the loot box in the incursion it didnt reset for me this week just did it and it was already open

[timber hatch]

Tbh it sounds like they were trying the method where you sit at the back while you and the other guy were trying a different more strat forward strategy

[bitter wraith]

Sit at the back in the corner? Near the door?

[bitter wraith]

It hasnt reset

[wintry wraith]

Lol sitting by the entrance to kill lovebirds, wat a method 😂

[lone valve]

It's an ass method
Better off one phasing Johnson

Striker 4 piece with chest and rock n roll on lovebirds is absolutely amazing

[high vector]

I was wondering about that if we have countdown why go to DZ for loot i havent tried it but the amount of loot i saw people get is insane

[covert sphinx]

yeah when i focus a weapon i usually end up with 30 new weapons in my inventory

[high vector]

havent played in a while so im wondering why bother with DZ if we got countdown

[agile pendant]

is wony story enough to lvl a 30 to 40??

[bitter wraith]

Fr though i have no clue what they were thinking

[covert sphinx]

no, you'll end up at 38 or so

[bitter wraith]

Tried one phasing him and only managed it like twice (only once of which we survived)

[agile pendant]

damn 😦

[covert sphinx]

have to do a couple side missions

[agile pendant]

i have had people try the DH warhound boss strategy.... ignorant dummies didnt even take my advice

[lone valve]

Everyone needs to be on point
The healer needs to debuff with scorpio and opportunistic
And sledgehammer aswell
And the rest just need to ignore everything and focus on Johnson and his healing box

Before the fight stack striker
To max and unload

[bitter wraith]

Ngl its been so long since i did DH (june last year??) That i dont remeber that strat but ye some randoms have very...interesting...methods

[bitter wraith]

Can a dps use perfect sledgehammer instead of the healer?

[lone valve]

Yea lefty ACS 12 if you want

[bitter wraith]

Ok

Can i grenade martinez and use that 40% extra damage on johnson or does it HAVE to be johnson with a grenade?

[lone valve]

If both are in the grenade radius applies to both

[bitter wraith]

Damn thats op

[timber hatch]

You mainly want to just focus damage on one (Johnson) to finish him off first anyways

[lone valve]

Sledgehammer applies to the box aswell right

[kind veldt]

you cna just throw a flashbang that deals no damage buy has nasty range for it if you want

[small spear]

if you actually deal damage to it yes, but flame grenade doesn't deal damage to electronics if you're using it, so you have to use concussion

[agile pendant]

whats the purpose of ccing the heal box??

[lone valve]

Haven't seen anyone cc it
I just want the sledge proc on it

[agile pendant]

ahh ok got it

[kind veldt]

people just want that extra 40% from perfect sledghammer

[timber hatch]

Ideally you pre-place an emp sticky, then set it off the moment it's placed. You'll do a chunk of damage to it and stop it from healing

[lone valve]

Yea that's too good to pass up on
(unless everyone is using oreo)

Probably don't even need sledge proc with everyone running oreo

[molten spire]

They added the raid exotics Eagle Bearer and Ravenous to possible DZ drops to bait people

the odds of them dropping are very, very small. I clear landmarks for Field Recon Data when I don't feel like farming open world control points

[kind veldt]

we usually just kill it fast enough

[lone valve]

Kinda wish the box wasn't bugged
Still no oreo from a boss drop 😩

[kind veldt]

be really focused on doing something else like a flawless run (that i botched it)

[wintry wraith]

Isn't that a bug?

[molten spire]

it's intended for the Dark Zone

you have it confused with the Incursion loot tables, which may or may not be a bug

[lone valve]

They are a bug
It's in the Trello iirc

[sharp pebble]

is civic center shd tech cache bugged?

I've just done all 5, and my progress still says 4/5 incomplete

[kind veldt]

Raid exotics on DZ is not a bug, raid exotics on incursions is a bug

i'm just down to missing 2 exotics now

ravenous and regulus

[agile pendant]

whos that hitchiker character who runs around in dc/ny and drops loot when u kill him

[kind veldt]

a weird loot goblin equivalent

[agile pendant]

so nobody important to the story lol

[tender yarrow]

Hey, is anyone German and up for The Division 2?

[sharp pebble]

I just ran through all 5 SHD tech caches in the civic center NY

my progress is stuck on 4/5 :/

why ubisoft

4 years later

🤦‍♂️

[lone valve]

There is a map online you can check where its at

https://division2map.com/nyc

[sharp pebble]

right... I said I did all 5, and I just double checked all 5 locations again

they're all open