#td2-general-chat
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Ik what you're feeling lol
skill issue
sigh just /invite ChampionEevee and ill hop on
Destroyer of opinions and arguements
xD
im waiting
ok wait i am still knew to this
i need two people atleast
just start the mission omg
ok
Its not confirmed, but def in their agenda. Just matter of time
Yall too pessimistic as f
theres a difference between pessimism and realism
Lol, realist? The fact is, ubi soft themselves said its one of o their core focus...i dont know what else u need. Ure def a pess
U think u are, but okay ๐
didnt confirm it tho
@frozen meadow wait you said that the green poison is only in USA right?
In the game's lore
If so does this mean that only the USA looks like some giant nature catacomb?
hmm, Div 1 started it all on a Black Friday, which i think USA is the only country that celebrates it i think?
Other countries celebrate it but since it was only launched by one guy and not a humanity extinction threat organization so no
But like
how the fuck did you even jump to this conclusion
It's almost as impossible to stop the airport while the virus spreads like a spilled water
Magic
I mean it did infact hit other countries
But not like it did to USA
Like you said
yeah
So technically only USA got hit at the point that it will take decades to restabilish
And it might get better if agents finally find a cure
Now probably other countries would take 7 years imo to restabilish
The countdown thing?
what
The countdown Gamemode
mate im sorry but
you really need to pay attention to the lore more
you skipped a ton
antiviral from tidal basin, perfusion bioreactor from pentagon?
Oh
The antiviral from the boss on tidal
And that reactor which looks like it would kill a whole country
But it won't
It got stolen from black tusk and then stolen from us
They took our reactor
: (
the reactor was for mass production of vaccines
The black tusk looks like they want another thing with it tho
And not a cure
So imagine what they could do with it
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Probably the division 2 story might end with that bioreactor
If we get a div 3
That still needs confirmation so it's not true until now
it wont because it already hit the climax of "shit got stolen"
Exactly
and we have a whole extra dlc
the dlc is
: (
another dlc
i don't recall in game them speaking the rest of the world about black friday, but from what i saw on wiki many countries celebrate it along with USA. maybe the devs only wanted to focus on USA for the time being?
WONY old asf
Langley Reports
it mentions the response of the other countries from dollar flu
Might buy the DLC depending on the story if it's trash or not and if it requires to expand the game
could be a story based on whoever is pulling the strings side of things too ๐ค
imagine we get to lvl 50 with new dlc
We won't
sad
Division is a US thing, how would American agents work abroad
will be starting at level 1 in a new place
that would be nice
US agents are everywhere
yo
any hopes for incursion can be done solo
Is it true that aaron was the first rogue? I think that's just a name for him
hell no
there was no "first rogue"
Oh
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So that's just a name for him
the rogues started from the first wave that got stuck in the dz and left to die
i feel Rogues became a thing in Div 2 story wise. think div 1 rogues were just players in the DZ to kill players and get their loots kind of deal
div 1 rogues were a prevalent part of the story wdym xD
Maybe but they're not commiting mass murder on the streets of Moscow or Beijing
how many people are required for operation dark hours?
usually 8 people
8 but depend
4 minimum
u can finish with 4 if u are experienced enough
just got back into division and I kinda want eagle bearer so I was just wonderin lmao
probably need all 4 very experienced and various builds to fill in various needs
How much dps is required for raids? I think I put out like 2.5-3?
I thought rogues could only hack skills in div 2 because of the rogue protocol since i've never saw them hack my skills, apparently i was wrong
wouldnt go in with less than 15 mil
huh, alright
nah the hunters are what hacks your skills
Rogue agents hack your skills too
full red striker
and anyonw will carry u
you sure of that? i don't recall them every hacking my skills just hunters
I have 4 striker fenrir vest and coyote mask with st elmo's
Yes, i've saw them hack my skills both 1 and 2
groupo chest with obleriate
yeah im trying to get obliterate
cyska holister
Try using a drone against rogues
rest striker
wtf no
And you will see@jagged prism
trev no
obviously someone who hasn't made many diffrent builds XD
ceska with obliterate and coyotes
ceska chestplate?
yes?
been trying to get obliterate ceska but haven't had luck with either
obliterate or ceska lmfao
was going to say, does it really matter where you have your ceska?
if I have both then I can't run 4 striker and coyote tho
ceska chest is much better
Yeah im gonna go for ceska obliterate chest
u can try fox kneepad too
and i also just need to get my shd level up lmfao, Im only SHD 13
FP on strikers hell no
oh you mean if you're going the Striker route?
yes
TD3 coming out when ?
yeah, that makes sense now considering the othe 4 pieces will be lacking in chc or chd
theres no confirmation
so is 4 striker, coyote mask, ceska chest, st elmo's and gunner a good build @frozen meadow ?
if u are crazy enough
30ish years maybe? XD
and everything rolled chd yes
dont use st elmos in raid
especially in ih
boss goes invisible or something
What are some good guns I can go for
So 2030 at this point
St Elmo the shocking gun correct?
famas
I have heard famas good
famas is best damage ar in the game
yeah I saw that
i'd say 2053 ish @twilit mirage
police m4, famas, carbine 7
can I craft famas?
yes
yup
yes
Police M4 as well no?
if you have the bp
yup
no shot I don't have famas bp lmfao
get carbine 7 it hit harder than famas but less rpm
cant craft without blueprint
why not?
do you have a source
Ill check, but I swear I've been able to craft it for a super long time
i have
in terms of raw dps a famas is better
only reason i liked the Carbine was the accuracy of it
"Famas 2010 Replica" ?
yes
yes
famas without stability mods its just hard to handle
yeah I have that and the police m4, those are my only 2 craftable ars
so carbine better
you ever try it on striker? striker gives some stability?
there are other builds too
I can see why famas is good, it has 300 less damage than my elmo's and like 100 rpm more
Actually, not clear. Which team are they building: the preproduction team or the development team? It's not unusual for games to go through many months of early design/development with a small team before they staff things up and go full-bore on it.
yup handling means = stability accuracy swap speed and reload
striker does the most overall damage
I โค๏ธ Striker
nego does that lol
what if leader ask u to run negotiater dilemma
if you have multiple targets*
eh, i'll still go the Full Metal Jacket route over strikers
famas will go to roof
It's division 2, no guns have a lot of recoil lmao
yeah overall striker does highest single target
try eagle bearer
Full Metal Jacket build require no building up to do instant damage like strikers
thats a lie
๐ right?
I mean it doesn't feel like it
ye
what the hell is full metal jacket
That's the whole reason im here lmao, I want eagle bearer
sounds like the shittiest shit that ever shat
Huh?
it's an all yellow gear build
that's true compared to div1
u gonna use it few times and u will switch back to st elmos or police m4 or other rifles
and your eb goes into stash
yeah
Im here to have fun, getting different guns and using them is fun to me
so worse damage
Shut down div 2 and then open it again
it's something like Glass Cannon, Vigilence, forget the rest of it but in the end you don't have to shoot 100 bullets to get 100+ damage out of it. you just shoot and things die
Magic
and you get shot and you die
Call for Backup is in the SHD tab of the map; that might work better for you since it will always bring someone to your session. (If you want more than one, you can call again after someone's joined you.)
I almost see no one helping people in that thing
worse damage than charged up striker
@frozen meadow what attachments should I go for on famas?
It takes almost 1 or 2 mins to someone show up and help me everytime i use it
beats shooting 100 bullets for that 100 damage from the get go
bruh you are not a pc player so you will not know the unoptimized mess is it on pc
Oof
1 mag of an acs
it just takes some extra skill of no rambo shooting (> <)
That's what I thought, thanks
My PS4 crashed with that death warning thing sometimes i played div 2
13-14 bullets of acs 12 suffice
shrugs build your stacks for damage i've probably killed 3 or 4 more than you on that 1 mob for stacking
for 200 need rock n roll or reload acs
tell me youve never used striker without telling me youve never used striker
thanks to that build i've become a better player than i did in div 1 XD
how much chc am I aiming for
used it plenty of times, just not a fan of it div 2. div 1 was so much better
55-60ish
okay i have 51 with famas and 56 with elmos
lost i gotta be honest if you think it takes that long to charge striker youve never used it before
Div players use all their 24 hours per day time to build with love, dedication and joy a damage or run n gun and etc
youre acting like it takes 10 seconds to get to 100 stacks
sounds about right
what type of secondary should I run?
I'm not sure why it takes so long to bring in backup when I try it (which admittedly is not that often), but a lot of people call and a lot respond, or at least that's the impression I get after getting to Shepherd level 33 this session. (That's substantially more than 250 backup calls I've done in the last few weeks.)
By secondary I mean other gun, not pistol
Acs helps but it keeps losing quickly
i have, both with and without ACS and it's still slower in my opinion
no lmao
it takes 3s max to reach 100 stacks
should I use an ACS to build striker stacks?
Of course, that's on PC. Not sure of PlayStation is different, or has a different culture.
Kinda
huh
PlayStation ain't different
It takes 1 or 2 mins
thats enough to kill 3 ads according to lost
Sometimes 3 if possible
Damage not high and stack will start decaying
It's a lil time buff
Or something like that
if that's how you want to interpret it shrugs
fuck do you mean interpret it thats what you said lmfao
I get less dps with famas than I do with elmos, am I missing something
i'm jsut saying the time you guys are building your stacks i probably would've killed 3-4 mobs in that 1 mob you're building stacks on
which is 3-4 seconds
which you are not doing on a high end AR build xD
so unless youre lying youre bending the game around yourself
are all your slugs hitting mobs from a great distance away?
How does that work? Don't you require one hit for each stack? Charging 100 stacks in 3 seconds is 33 stacks/sec, which is 33*60 = 1980 RPM. That's considerably higher than a Vector's ~1400 RPM with Striker's. (I don't recall the ACS fire rate, but I'd imagine it doesn't get 100% hits unless you're real close.)
I've always had problems charging Striker, and never quite figured out how to do it well. Proably I just need to play faster; being too delibrate a player doesn't work well with many builds in this game.
Jesus christ dude
youre not killing enemies from 40m away with an ar at 1 per second
i shot of acs count as 8 stacks
so with striker you fire 5.2 or 5.3 shots per second
What's your problem?
Is It really hard to calculate the damage and etc
Because shooting range ain't good for that
300
acs fire rate is 300 without striker
345 with
yes
Not a big change imo
Full Metal Jacket build = 3 Pc Providence, 1 Grupo Sombra, 1 Fenris, 1 Fox Prayer
60% CHC 183% CHD
gross
Ah, so 300 * 8 * 1.15 = 2760. My problem is in not using the ACS to proc it. Fair enough.
so while you're running in close to hit things with your ACS for striker stacks = me killing 3-4 npcs in that time from from a fairly safe distance
"fairly safe" lmao
lmfao
Technically a fairly safe range is being far โ๏ธ๐ค anyways wouldn't hit
I was boutta say, build striker and then murder everything before they can react
You never are
sure you are, like i said can't rambo your way XD
With or not glass Cannon on a full red build you're not safe
glass cannon no matter what isnt safe
how much armor do yall run
Never were
whatever default on six reds is
open world yeah, no way to know when things come. missions most things are usually in front of you and you know the spawn points you end up beign safe
I meant like the literal number lmao @grand swan
Oh ok
Is that around 600k @frozen meadow ?
if you know the spawn points then just spawncamp with HHF
Around 600K i think
depends on expertise
Not that much
31 if i'm right
I have 800k rn cuz i threw 1 blue on, I might take it off for another red lmao
i have 1 blue on this hhf build and i have 914.8k armour
Idk if you're talking about the watch
@frozen meadow thnx for the help sir appreciate the time and patience you gave me performs a salute emo
took me a moment to remember who you were
yeah im missing all of the SHD upgrades and stuff, so I've just got less armor no matter what lmao
bruh u old already xD
Alzheimer moment
you can mod 5% hsd on the m870
okay my DPS is up to around 7 mil now
yes you can
only the mag
i would know, i play it the most
which I dont think is too bad at SHD 13 lmfao
you can use the 5% mag yeah
this is why low shd accounts suffer with HHF, they have to run providence and habsburg to make up the hsd deficit
yeah
@small spear may i use you to see long distance enemies, after all you're binoculars
i call that good eyesight
Yes
Best event
It's sincerely the best event
Mainly the trophy
Who wouldn't like a golden gun
there was an honestly funny reaction i had about this a long time ago, this dude was claiming that <150% hsd is okay for headhunter shotgun with HF and they used the then-WR solo leg DUA run by roterblitz as "proof"
if you didn't know better you would then see it had 145% hsd and just think "hm, if this guy can get WR with 145% hsd for headhunter, maybe 150% is just not needed"
i just pointed out you can just, mod 5% on it, and he just never spoke again
i'm okay with it because pummel is busted
are enemies not coming out of the room on grand washington hotel in the big room with the gap in between the two balconies a known bug?
pummel is very good
Pummel is literally the destroyer of worlds
roterblitz is a wrong benchmark for new players
not the point tho, the point is him claiming that 145% hsd can still reach the numbers that roterblitz can get
which is blatantly false
yup
145 - 150 is day and night difference
i'm honestly struggling to get 150% on my m870 on a new account, and i had to run providence and 10% hsd on m870 for it
reminds me of me when i forgot 10% hsd on my shotgun
I just saw that yesterday. I fixed it with an Eclipse/Vile build using Jammer Pulse.
and i was playing with 140%
yeah that 20% from watch seems not like much but without it we would be losing dmg at max cap cause unable to put zero f or d&h vigi bag
Use linked laser if going into pulse damage
dawg idk what that means
That's the attachment exclusive to technician
im gunner mid mission
Pulses automactically enemies
just trying to kill 2 enemies stuck out of bounds, I have vile and jammer pulse its working
When aiming
A
Ubi moment
Oxidizer
thank god I randomly got vile like an hour ago
im only on hard for a challenge and they were both red bars, so vile and jammer pulse did just fine
are dumb in gb
everything dumb in gb
Can I send someone a cute video
that's not sketchy at all lmfao

send it to ai bot
:(
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Budgie do u wanna see it
Why tf It emojis mine but not yours
You can trust me ๐
The : ( thing
Discord setting
๐ฟ๐ฟ
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K anyways send it
Hold on I'll have to dm it to u
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There's a Glock 17 and a magnum guarded here
Also who tf travels a whole country to another just to kill someone
eevee
golden bullet makes the minigun feel how it should
Budgie check dms
Hi
It was a Fox video
hi
I thought it was gonna be something like that
definitely was

There ain't a single human on this planet who travels to a whole another country to kill someone
For no reason
commit to the bit
Do u wanna see it
yea
Sent
golden bullet minigun DPS is like 200 million lmfao
200 million it ain't possible bruh even with gb
too high or too low
either
there were a couple bugs in game that allowed one to do such thing XD
it bugs out periodically
gb is my first event and I feel like its already peaked
no chance it could be better than this
Gb is the top tier event imo
2nd is reanimated
Does that work any better than Firestarter? I tried that first and the guy was apparently out of range. I had to fast travel to a safe area and put on a skill build, at which point Vile seemed the easier option.
Oxidizer doesn't care about walls
it's hilarious isn't it? XD
Nor does Firestarter; I've used it to kill through closed doors etc. before.
I never did then
the few times I had that spawn glitch happened I just oxidized them
Looking more closely, it looks like Oxi has better radius, especially at lower skill tiers, so that seems to be the way to go. I'll start trying that, then, first.
you'll have to becareful of them invisible walls in the game with oxidizer or teammates walking in front of you
or when your agent aims slightly downwards while you're aiming and you hit your own cover
Yeah, I pretty quickly learned about that with Firestarter. I generally find the chem launcher to be a bit fiddly.
when people are talking about the M1A for burst dps are they referring to classic or socom?
i'm thinking Classic, least that's what comes to mind for me
I'm thinking SOCOM, because hugely fast fire rate.
I use SOCOM M1A CQB with Lucky talent as my secondary on builds focused on short- to mid-range, and it works surprisingly well at getting kills.
the best m1a variants are the m1a cqb and classic m1a, m1a cqb has the highest dps but is harder to control, and classic m1a is very stable
then again when i think of M1A i'm always thinking about baker's dozen too XD
Oops, not SOCOM, no, don't use that one. Use M1A CQB; it's noticeably more powerful.
body shot or head shot? i'd love to see that build XD
headshot crit I think
but im using classic so its only 207 rpm so its like 3 mil dps
hmm, i wonder what a Classic would do with full metal jacket build would be like? (> <)
what talent you got on it?
Floating spec weapons are the worst
graphically?
Been a long while since I've played. Think decent just released and I got bored
Sometimes friendly spec weapons will just like detach and float in the air and are collidable so you can hit them with oxy and blep.
lol, semi newish bug?
breadbasket
hmmm ๐ค
It's been around a while, not sure how long tho.
huh, guess i never played a chem launcher build during those times. i do recall seeing the weapons kind of floating thinking maybe player lagged a bit so they turned invisible on your screen but they're fine on theirs?
usually see it when going from one cleared room to the next room that needs to be cleared
Division 3 is comingโฆโฆ. Letโs gooooo.
Just keep up that level of enthusiasm for the next four years! :-)
so with the TDI kard what is the best talent to rock on it for general use such as: using it before going downfor the second revive hive/using it to keep hive after teammate revival
Lets just hope they take their time with it
Yeah, they were very fast with Div2 (only 3 years), although it wasnโt in a good state on release. Still a great game imo.
@unborn ravine
I equip bunch and do countdown for proficiency gaining, but seem to take so long to get to 10
Well it was only quiestly announced, so it's still early early early early.
You use all charges on self revive but it does give you an extra charge for teammates. I put sledge on mine.
Just farm a brand at a time. Much faster to donate.
@unborn ravine i did all brand gear and set items like striker, and left to do named gears and skills and weapons, but seem to take so long even with countdown....how people reach 23?
Skills and weapons take the longest, named even longer.
Just goott farm your little heart out and donate resources.
If your over 1000shd, make a new character and complete warlords NY again, all the shd points will go to your nect charcater than you can use to gain the crafting components and donate to expertise.
more specifically, donate printer filament you get from deconstructing mods
target loot mods, deconstruct all mod drops that aren't max roll or near max roll, eventually you get a healthy amount of printer filament
"passively" equip weapons you aren't using in your secondary or pistol slots
Done nyk new char about 6 times...got tired of it and doing countdown with weapon target root to donate, but still takes so long. Today I reached expertise 12
Expertise grinding is such pain, lol.
Just wait until you try to make expertise 23 on all your gear. ๐
It's supposed to be something you do long term, but they didn't count on the "gotta have it now" urge to be that strong
and of course it has effects in PvP and the Dark Zone, which aggravated some people's need to have it now
It only matter for the weapon in PvP really.
Or skills if you wanna be that person.
Are exotic components required for weapon expertise > lvl 10?
No
Hmm vile mask for lvl 11 is asking for an exotic component
And this will scale up as I reach lvl 20.. so that's lot of exotic components
No way around it?
How long have you been working on it? I reached Expertise 10 in about a thousand SHD levels with no donations at all.
I think they did reckon that would be there, and that's why they allow you to grind so much (practically all of it) via donations, becoming "Proficient" on many items you've never even used, which is what most people seem to do.
You mean to get to lvl.12? Lvl.11 upgrade does not seem to require an Exotic component for me. See #ask-td2-community for a pic.
My bad it was not vile mask, it's bluescreen lvl 11
Ah, yes. I think weapons start needing Exotic components a level earlier than gear does.
during countdown game crashes?
Its known to
Sometimes
i see
But happily or sadly i havent crashed yet ive only just been kicked over and over from the lobby by the leader before the game even start
Are you using a skill build?
If so, thats why you might be getting kicked. Hunters like to hack your skills and kill everyone else with them.
Dps
mmm, strange then. got a screenshot of your build? Also, what shd lvl are you?
Yeah might be my shd lvl
I always look at builds rather than shd lvl
but some kick based purely on lvl i guess
25 shd
keep trying. If you dont get in any CD runs I'll add you and invite you into some
Oh, yeah, there will definitely be some people who kick a level that low. And they're not entirely wrong. I was starting to get reasonably conversant with game mechanics by the time I hit level 20, but I've met plenty who went straight up to level 40 without thinking about their loadout at all. (Which, of course, is why you should look at loadouts, not SHD level.)
ty ill take you on that one later
fair
Whoops
11 requires a component for weapons and skills not gear
Meet shd 3500 can't dps on iron horse
Is that related to div in any way?
NOPE
Read the channel title mate
Been here for years mate, my friends are here
And? Scroll on by
#off-topic-discussions is what rivens was getting at
Seems some changes were made and channels added. Didnt notice it
Totally my bad, im in the wrong server, carry on
I thought you said you've been here for years lol
That channel has always been there
Hey div 2 community
search youtube. there is one of the guide videos that shows a location you can stand where he cant hit you. should be one of the first few that pop up. probably best bet. and regular pulse can highlight his plates so you know whats left
I'd love to help but my plus ended and sony is a ๐ฑ because prices here in brazil are kinda expensive and sony increased the plus price
thats their 3rd mesage ever on this server and last one was over 2 years ago rofl. clear self promotion....
oof
Damm it I always miss the tea
so i play the game almost completely solo all the time, i excel at solo play, im great at survivability, i also dont even use a set. And yet i find the descent to be an absolute frustrating shit show. I think its just flat out stupid that you dont even get to pick what pistol to use, they give you this garbage M9 that takes about 3 magazines of hits just to kill one enemy. Just why?
Also how are you supposed to get any of the upgrades if none of your currency stays?
descent credit from clearing rooms buy what you want skip what you don't want
I do that, and when i get back to a new run, i have zero currency
you get a weapon thats not a pistol right at the start?
I dont
also that pistol is quite solid at the start since pistols have 100% base HSD bonus, you just need to hit headshots
your not grabbing a weapon and a skill right at the start?
i do land headshots
it takes just a few shots to kill with headshots with the starting pistol on loop 1... far from 3 mags
LOL!! Golden Bullet will reload your weapon on animal kills
Literally any other handgun in the game is a straight upgrade, m9 has no range or damage, and accuracy
again, are you grabbing a gun right when you start? you'll always start with 3 random options, then a choice of a random skill
also refresh when you break a skill like turret or drone
i get one option of a shotgun, and my skill options are burster, its given me that all 4 times ive done this
yeah, i knew about that, but the innocent animals is funny how it counts that for a GB Reload
the options are random each time you go in. if youve only done it 4 times then theres a chance you might have seen some things repeat, but they are random. Also shotguns are amazing in this game mode
So far its been a handicap, i just get put in massive rooms with drones and snipers. I tried the shotgun on a boss once, but i legit just did like 1 bar of armor damage a shot, i got shot 4 times and died at that range
also unloading like literally 7 pistol mags into the boss and still couldnt break his armor or stagger him
with punnel coming soon also regicede doesn't work well with shotgun
I find shotguns to be pretty underwhelming as a whole in Division 2. compared to SMGs. The reload speed and not being able to land all pellets on target is a huge DPS drop
at close range, high damage rifles actually work better as close range weapons, sadly
The only thing i think shotguns excel at is ammo economy
They also take a huge disadvantage with the lose all ammo on reload challenge
not if your using pummel, the best shotgun talent by far
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also Scorpio Exists that destroys every content unless it bugs out
I think it gets better if you stay in a bit longer. I'm a bit crap at descent myself, but after I got dragged in by a backup call and we went through maybe eight or ten rooms, though he took off, I was doing ok after that. I suspect it might just work better with two players.
Does anyone play division in waves? I get burnt out put it down then pick it up and am addicted
Taking breaks from online games is very healthy and I highly recommend it.
Just some simple burnout
Two waves? Two years ago and now? :-)
healthier than constant attachment
people are so confused how i have 3000 hours in this game and think im addicted lol
Haha true. Just an interesting feedback loop I suppose
I'll just hide my WF playtime behind the corner, no one needs to see it.
Trust me from someone who's failed to do it before: take breaks.
i do it lol
how many hours 
pls be more than mine
only 3k? thats far from addict xD
Addiction to the division discord is a different matter
tbh, im just waiting for heart lands to come out or make another beta lol
it was actually fun
It's more.
put it this way, I started in 2014.
I totally missed my invite for that, looked like fun.
it was only a week but my god was it fun
i can rest in peace knowing someone too knows the pain of "my warframe is strong"
Now we gotta know... cant be worse than my 12k in arms 3 ๐
I'll keep the mystique for now.
is it over a year of playtime?
โAll Right Then, Keep Your Secretsโ
Then you are too far from the enemy if you don't hit with all the pellets.
Guns in div2 have an "optimal range", if you are outside of that range, they do reduced damage.
all the Optimal Range"'s are listed in #td2-build-advice > ๐ pinned-message > spreadsheet > weapons.
BRING BACK CRITICAL RANGE
e.g. the m870 shotgun has an "OR" (Optimal Range) of only 14m, which is shorter than you might think.
because i said so
we already have dmg dropoff and crit range ๐คข
you should program it than
nope nope nope
yep yep yep
remove dttoc as a 3rd atttribute
Thank lootcifer eevee isnt a dev... we would all be stuck with mandatory 10 directive legendary difficuly on all content... hell the targets in the shooting range would probably fire back as well ๐
petition to replace the regular friendly NPC's with those, they'd probably be more effective.
or at least be able to defend the White House for 5 minutes while we were at Coney.
Legendary difficulty shooting range: it shoots back
Hey Rivens, Gogamer, Raucey, Eevee
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Hi Saph
Trailer for season 2 puppeteers drop yet? Or is that not for another week?
dont think its out yet
i think it should only drop when they set a release date
Is TD2 dead?
tl;dr no
we're about to get a new Season starting (within the next few weeks) and after 2 more, we're getting a brand new DLC/expansion thingy.
I heard it was completely dead so Iโve not bought it. Would you say itโs worth getting? If so which version do I get? Is the base version enough?
I'd definitely wait for a heavy sale, since the game is 5yrs old by this point.
75% off is quite common.
I'd just suggest getting an edition that includes WONY (Warlords of New York), you don't need anything from special editions, it's basically just cosmetic.
So Phoenix Edition?
Just something more basic is fine, unless you really want the statue.
As long as it includes base div2 and WONY, you're good.
Wat? A new dlc soon? News to me
Which is the more basic version? I can only see either the base game or the Phoenix version
@wintry wraith Yep, was announced during a big stream a while back, supposed to be during Season 4 of the current track, we're about to enter Season 2.
@sullen dock digital version on uplay/ubisoft connect is fine, nothing else is needed. I believe it's called "Warlords of New York edition" when it's digital.
Somehow doing a challenging countdown with SMGs as targeted gets me 2 fully maxed out shotguns
Is it the same on steam?
Yep, currently full priced but goes on sale semi-regularly.
We're getting close to October, should be one then, possibly mid-late.
Shit, gotta get my grind going then lol, gonna have to max out my hardcore character xD
Wait theres a new DLC coming?
Aye, we don't know a whole lot about it right now, but we do know it takes place at least partially in Brooklyn, NYC.
which is also where div1 started.
Bring survival to div 2 lol, I'll be happy
#1001871292330414141 has that one covered, kinda!
Still gonna look like it did or worse lol
Might even see the Second wave V22 that was oofed
Well since there's been a hurricane gone through nearby-ish to there since we visited the first time (you see it in nyc in div2), I'd assume it's going to look at least a little mad-max'y
Damn Brooklyn got worse somehow
i wonder how the hurricane would have affected the division one if it happened then
Specifically in terms of the LMB
didnt lmb just link up with black tusk?
Black tusk just absorbed the remains of it iirc
yup
Does ravenous really drop from dark zone now?
Did i do iron horse long ago for nothing?
its a flat 1% drop chance in dz so good luck
LMB wasnt all absorbed but most
much lower than that?
most of the LMB were just killed off in div1, the rest joined black tusk.
oh its lower? welp
I saw a guy on yt say it's 0,024%
yeah itrs really lower than 1%, youre still better off doing raids
yeah thats more accurate
Byt i don't trust div tubers
you see in the WoNY trailer that an amount joined the JTF
They were literal nazis
Didn't you see their arm bands?
Doesn't it remind you of a really bad group of people?
no...?
Mf just reads too much into it
ok they are straight up nazi coded tho. mans is right
Doesnt mean they are lmao
They were a paramilitary organisation in a video-game, 3:1 odds on favourite that they weren't good people.
I still favourite them
They did run labour camps and execute prisoners, so read into it how you like.
hey Saph 
^^^^^^^
bot can scan the chat so fast ๐คฏ
They were basically fascist and really that's similar to more than just one group in history.
The final countdown.
The last countdown before incursion replaces it.
boo do doot doot. boo doo doo doot doot.
U know wat, division should be a faction game lol, u can become a agents or a rogue agent and have played Duke it out >:D
No
:(
Have invasions like Dark souls.
Rogue agents are just real players.
If they had preset loadouts when you joined I think it could be fair.
Have an event where rogue agents took over an entire district and that entire area is emp as well lol
Don't you get Europe stuck in my head!
I've been floating this concept around this place for years, it's absolutely a spin-off thing though, not a main game.
"Division: Rogue" is my working title so far.
Would be cool, especially since the end game stuff is just us hunting down rogue agents now lol
Agreed, although being able to side with Rogues and have them still be the same level of bad is unlikely, very few games allow you to be that sort of villain.
ah well, it's just a fan concept anyway.
(sick guitar solo)
Yea, hard to maintain too since its a community branched off and they tend to get toxic xD
It would have to be offline anyway, but I can't imagine it going "toxic".
why is there no vc's in this server
Ubisoft wanted them gone.
2 exotics in a single countdown couldnt be happier
One being elmo
Bad rolls tho damm it
Did it drop with damage to targets out of cover? If not it can be reconfigured with blueprint and get that roll and possibly make your other rolls higher. It's all rng and cost an exo component though
No it does have it
Got the blue print
Health damage and swap speed
You want 3rd attribute to be damage to targets out of cover, itll be best possible dps out of the weapon. It's one of the only 2 exo right now that that can have 3rd attribute changed
When you recraft the gun do core attribs change too? Or is it just attribute
All attributes can change
Oo risky
Could get better or go down. Yeah risky
But if you get dttooc 3rd you can optimize the rest to max
Gotta counsult my lawyer for that one
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Im not gonna be able to reach lvl 91 so this is my last bet
you always get AR damage and health damage when you recalibrate, the values of those 2 will change though. the value and type of the 3rd attribute will change.
just snipe dttooc and save on the exo components. you can optimize the values later
how longs the season up for? if its like a week then you def have time
unless you game for like 20m a day
I think its 9 more days
I mostly play like 2 - 3 hours a day
yeah you can def do it
i remember grouping up and just running stuff with friends and after a few hours of doing whatever i got like 10 levels, unless you are like season level 1 you def have time
and that was doing just random stuff, not being efficient about it
You on right now? Want me to run you thru some XP?
Ah cmon with the timing
Id love that but i just got off to bed
shoulda asked earlier gamer
I got off work a few hours ago, relaxed, now it's game time.
I was sweating my cheeks off in countdown
Where ya live
Eastern side in the states.
My ass hurts
Should get that checked.
be thankful i am a mod here and should not make crude jokes.
tell it to stop hurting
i have atleast 2 for that EXACT sentence.
Maybe it's because it's got a crack in it?
Im literally being serious man i sat down like 5 hours tonight
You should get up and stretch and move lol
get a cushioned pad to sit on
yeah don't sit in one place for hours straight. walk around and move
So around kentucky?
i can't even play for 30m
U sit down for 5 hours? That's incredibly unhealthy lol
thats some rookie numbers, i woke up at 10 am and its 630 now, same bat chair, same bat channel
Im use to it from csgo
Not literally 6 hours i did get up but it compiles
even still, i can't focus if i don't move around every 30m. my aim just doesn't work
Oo ok, as long as ur getting up n stretching xD
Yea may not strech but yeah i do get up ๐ซ
okay azur is gone, i can keep saying focus
i just dont notice time going by
I sit on my chair for hours too on my pc, sitting alone for thay amount of time is bad, there a video of someone actually dying for sitting for 48 hours straight
Yup, seen that
Focus up... It's time.
Isnt it weekend for y'll
i'd hope its weekend for atleast some people
It's gonna be yeah, I never work Saturday or Sunday.
So again. How did you calculate 100k exp per minute 2 days ago. What was the procces
did you mean it with all directives on?
Hold on I'll put it together.
I got the picture you sent me
Oh I'm just talking about where I pulled that number from.
Ight
it twas my butt but it was via maths.
700,000 XP= 1 SHD
10 SHD=7,000,000
7,000,000/60=116,666.666666
Go on
That's it. 10 SHD an hour requires 116k xp per minute.
Yeah i know i meant like how do you farm 100k exp per minute brother ๐ซ
How much does a entire clear of decent give u, I'm saying the moment you kill nemesis, you leave
I personally run herioc 5 directives so it's WAY more than that.
Also. Is the season award leveling up require the same exp amount as shd lvl for a lvl up?
Yeah it's the same xp.
Makes sense
All directives on is 125% right?
Yeah, 25% each.
So a 230k execution becomes 517k
518229 for a pub execution. I've got the game open and I'm looking at it.
That would take me 2-4 minutes depending on where the person ran off to.
Got it
2-5 is crazy for heroic(thats just me)
I'll set a timer and include the fast travel from whitehouse and time it just so see what we can do.
ight
The territory took under a min. let me run to the pub next to it
And the pub was under 2 and was just next door.
thats mental
I am using a special build, hunters fury, headhunter, regulus.
next time ur on ill be checking you out
Tons of people do this just as well as I do too.
Is it on the spread sheet?
It's why you see almost everyone say it shouldn't be a problem and it's easy to farm XP.
Yeah it's in there.
Alright thanks. Tmrw ill be farming for it then
So yeah it's special cause you need a raid exotic.
And it's punishing if you don't land shots.
The regulus is an exotic you have to get via a project and the only way to obtain and complete that project is by doing the iron horse raid.
So just forget the build for now ๐
is this a bat or a badger
i will say you can achieve times only slightly slower with other builds- regulus is just a fun build and it is great, so people run that a lot
I'm not answering your question.
Which animal is it
looks like a fox to me
Its a fox!
Gottem
Jinx u owe me a bag of chips
I want baked lays BBQ flavor
๐คฃ will you settle for a bag of green
The fk is a bag of green lol
herbs ๐ฒ
Deal
ill send the chips๐
nice ๐ช
So when a zombie bites me, I eat the plant and get my health back
U know wat, division needs a zombie mode lol
hey guys im new in td2.
i fresh hitted lv40 2days ago. someone told me to do countdown straight on heroic. i got carried there. i putted highlighted loot on AR and i dropped st. elmo from a mob. now i still need coyote mask. and my question would be does that highlighted loot increase specific exotic slot loot? or was the st. elmo just pure luck
yeah targeted loot help farming specific gear
alright thx so im gonna put it mask instead for gear mods๐
Sounds like big trouble. You're going to need plenty of legal advice before this thing is over. As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine. Tape recorder for special messages. Acapulco shirts. Get the hell out of L.A. for at least 48 hours.
Do we already date for season 2 year 5 to start?
Nope.
survival mode would be cool w/ zombies
no confirmed date but should be within 2-3 weeks, in-game calendar has next week as the final week of the current season. not that they're beholden to that deadline or anything, they can and have extended that in the past, but early october is a pretty safe bet
Oh yes, even PTS no 2 not start yet
Hey guys
So u got my first dps build complete, (that was the 1st thing i did after doing wony) what do u recommend i do now?
Whatever
Use the DPS build to shoot things. Your choice of what to shoot.
I just discovered how broken Incessant Chatter can be if you get it first and then get Bullet Hell
Reload with 5 enemies around you for the 5x buff, get lucky and get Bullet Hell... GG, you effectively have Allegro 10 permanently.
Now combine that with actual Allegro. You have become an A10 Warthog
Meh still a lost talent slot
I mean, with a shotgun, it feels like it frees up a red core talent slot really. But at the same time I mostly am just going for Nemesis kills for the coms
I got to loop 27, I'm happy enough with that
and that was with 8 red stats and 19 blue cause I was only going for the nemesis that run and went "Eh, let's see how far I can go with this"
ether?
hey ASPECT
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Well, more #lfg-hardcore-mode actually.
Oops, yup! Dunno how I missed that.
Yeah i meant you ๐
Last night after your explanations i did pretty darn good
Great to hear!
I hear it's best to re-roll it for DTOC, yes, and I'd tend to agree, though you may want to wait until you get a second one. (That way you can always re-roll just the worse one, and never go backwards.)
Odds are low to get a second one from countdown but ill try
Well, they're low everywhere, but there are plenty of sources of Exotic Caches, so one will come up eventually. But if you feel lucky, you can just re-roll your current one until you get what you need or your run out of Exotic parts.
Man im still wondering what Theo found in The Divisionโs files while heโs sitting in his place
Like what did he find out that made Division so corrupted
McManus working with sokolova maybe?
Yea go for DtTOoC
Probably he was just making that up.
Morning yall

I know most of you will say donating weapons to boost proficiency rank is a waste of attributes, talents, mats but I have some leftover dupes because I was going for a specific roll on a Police M4. Now, I saw a video that there used to be a problem in division 2 when donating your weapons you can soft cap your expertise level. Is that still the case ?
I thought they fixed rogues dropping purple
the problem with donating in expertise was fixed a long time ago - now most people would agree that donating weapons to expertise is perfectly fine if you don't need the stats for your recalibration table (recalibration is more useful early endgame and it's not too difficult to max out your library)
I would maybe say donating a weapon type you actually intend on using quite a lot is a bit wasteful since you'll quickly max out proficiency on it just by getting kills, but it's a minor loss either way.
careful ๐
I said 'most people' for a reason...
Hey Rivens, Nug, Isabel, Kettle, Gogamer
Lol, quite the other way around. If you try to do something other than donate (after recal library, of course), you're going to have about six people jump on you to tell you you're playing the game wrong.
I donate and use stuff
Weapons are one of the biggest categories to get proficient. Definitly not a waste.
Just always do the following.
Mark favorite the stuff you want to keep.
Mark all else as junk .
Check library categories for geen up arrows (indicator you have something available for extraction).
Then donate to expertise.
Decon leftovers for mats.
This is most efficient use of excess weapons or gear.
Hi Saph
who is isabel though ๐
and how weapons drops like crazy better to donate them
Cheshire Cat
ahh ok
Hey Local
I considered weapons and skills to be the big wall blocking proficiency gains
Morning Saph 
some skills suck like deployment pulse
and buster firefly
Why skills? Those seem to level fairly fast and there's not a huge number of them.
Hate using firefly lol, trash skill xD but it's a skill issue for me
it's not trash except for the buster
Yeah. I think I calculated the shd point cost for weapons category when expertise first dropped and iirc it was somewhere in the 40k-50k shd range
demolition firefly can one shot dogs
Skills were somewhere in the 10k shd range
they scale off dttoc dta
Are you sure explosives skills scale off of ooc? I thought it was just oxi.
Not disputing btw, but that's news to me if so
yeah i think someone has a screenshot let me find it real quick
Originally it was very fast since they only had to be equipped. When they reworked the proficiency after release you needed to actually use the skill
Nice, ty๐ฏ
np
Hey Saph 
I've been trying to find Rock n Roll. Any tips on getting this named shotgun ?
either get it from a conflict cache or named cache
countdown, earn the currency, buy named cache, get lucky
named caches or dz
or do golden bullet level ups
never seen one actually drop from dz
but they are super common from conflict caches
buy named caches, get lucky, good luck again
i got my dark winter in dz
I'll try
thats.... not a rnr though
ive gotten like 20
So named cache. Is there a slim chance I get it from target looted summit ?
zero
Sadness
0 chance
I never did conflict
noted, thank you
Named caches like suggested already. Rock n roll is not the be all end all of stacking shotguns. Much better off with lefty and perfect sledgehammer so it can work double duty as a stack/debuff weapon
RNR does go on sale at cd vendor, along with some other dz exclusives, from time to time
Can i change facial hair for my character?
Yeah
There is a spot in haven and whitehouse
Why does the game keep pushing for me to do descend game mode?
Haven is downstairs by the hunter mask section, and whitehouse go in front doors then hang a right and first room to the right. Mirrors in both spots
afternoon agents
should you get all the intel outside the map, like I am missing 1 in kenly
Ok thx
Of course, lore is very important!
yeh I normally do them for the small bonus you get for a full set
Lol the only piece of lore I remember is keener being the bad guy ๐
yeh cause I remember kenly being open at the moment so I have a chance at the missing one
looking for some advice regarding networks stats, I've been getting a poor connection to server issue in countdown, in pve game randomly freezes, my network stats are latency 40ms, send rate 1300 Kbps, receive rate 2800Kbps, packet loss 0.00%, Outgoing 9Pps, Incoming 19 Pps. Can anyone tell me what is considered good or bad for this game?
Hello agents, I need help in one main mission, cant defeat last boss ubi id Derrame. point included
I will try to help
countdown servers can be sh*tty sometimes and theres pretty much nothing you can do about it. i have a good ping to europe but most of my matches are in asia and sometimes even US central
why do they keep showing cutscene for example when you enter castle is it a bug ?
cutscene will always be shown until you do the rebuilding
I seem to get the error regardless of server, I've made one change so far, changed my DNS from open dns back to my isp, and didn't get the error, need more games to prove its fixed, I'd be surprised if that was the cause tho
Hello agents, I need help in one main mission, cant defeat last boss ubi id Derrame. point included
what mission?
darpa
what difficulty?
sent friend request
hard
ill join in one min
/invite idespisegeology
copy paste this into chat in a few seconds
/invite idespisegeology
/invite screamingatafoxrn
chat doesnt wokr in my game, is the other mision
How does chat not work