td2-general-chat

[elfin hazel]

a year+ away I really doubt that

[opal radish]

it will f*k the game even more

let th take time honestly rushed things always gets f*d up

[lone valve]

It wasn't a year away if you did the math on how long the seasons lasted
Would be in s4 which would've been match

March

[limpid pond]

whats delayed? Brooklyn?

[elfin hazel]

everything but not really

[lone valve]

Actually I wonder if they did it cuz September is so packed with stuff

[elfin hazel]

seasons are now 4 months to allocate more time to improvements & fixes

[elfin hazel]

still half a year

[hybrid ore]

Oh thank goodness it's delayed.
My PC has been gone for nearly 2 months now, I've had no time to farm out this one.

and I paid for a Season Pass for the first time since 2020.

[limpid pond]

so Brooklyn DLC is delayed?

[lone valve]

I mean look if they do push out more fixes throughout the seasons and this isn't just a delay for delays sake
Then I'll be happy

[wide lotus]

WOWWW OCTOBER?

[opal radish]

what happened to your pc?

[wide lotus]

JEEZ MAN

[hybrid ore]

Brooklyn DLC was not coming until Season 4 anyway, we are currently in Season 1, going into 2.

[wide lotus]

Season 2 in October man tht confuses everything

[hybrid ore]

There were ninjas', I fought them off but they got it.

[wide lotus]

regarding roadmap i mean

[opal radish]

lmao

[lone valve]

Now that I think about it
It's better in October
As I don't have to juggle playing Starfield, then payday 3 then cyberpunk dlc then division 2 all in a short time span

Now the dlc is like basically a year away if my math doesn't fail me

[hybrid ore]

Starfield is going to absorb all my time, I feel bad for other games around then.

[lone valve]

https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1692524009357762592?t=XCZhEs23r36bgOgCq6d63g&s=19

[low flame]

Delay sucks but I would’ve been more fine with it if it was announced after the release of next season. I was getting more and more hyped each day to play the game to finish the manhunt and grind the pass if the exotics are good. But hey I’ll forget about this in two days

[wide lotus]

Cyberfunk is gonna take msot fo my time tbh

[rough sleet]

booping my dogs will consume most of my time when no major activities in div....

[lone valve]

Yea look if this was any other period
I'd be more upset
But time is limited and there's way too much stuff coming out

https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1692525819845922983?t=UpHNsSsk1fXFVUdWBMNmfg&s=19

[limpid pond]

https://twitter.com/CapStar362/status/1692527156218212396 bahahahaha

[lone valve]

I mean

I wouldn't mind

[limpid pond]

😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣

seems that the Golden Bullet flood has started !

i wouldnt mind past apparel events either, i have a few i need to finish without paying for them

[verbal fiber]

past apparel events would be great

[limpid pond]

so GB and Apparel Events and PRESTO

[lone valve]

https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1692527720817721822?t=btvenIGFPieEBA4A9SgsFQ&s=19

[limpid pond]

https://twitter.com/GuardOfDead/status/1692526786217738722 someone did suggest that

[verbal fiber]

gotta give that post a like for sure

[limpid pond]

https://twitter.com/CapStar362/status/1692528378920784066

There we go

[verbal fiber]

Alright, guess I'll just go back to monhun this september... you and me again, anomaly

[verbal fiber]

liked!

[limpid pond]

i wondered who liked that the MOMENT i posted it LMAO!!

[verbal fiber]

it's yo boi sig

[limpid pond]

slapped ya with a Follow for that one 😄

[verbal fiber]

right back at ya!

[tender notch]

just FYI, the new DLC is coming in season 4. we are still in season 1.

[limpid pond]

Div 2 PVE should go back to Div 1 loadouts ( IMHO ) , dual Exotics Primary Weapons capable ( mmmmmmm Pesti and St Elmo ) but PVP is restricted to current setup of 1 Exotic Weapon and 1 Exotic Gear Piece.

FITE ME!!!

@tender notch we know 😛

[opal radish]

everyone will run elmos scorpio and regulus for dps

[tender notch]

just saying, cause twitter above saying would be next season

[opal radish]

what is a better combo than that

[tender notch]

Famas, scorpio and reguls.

[limpid pond]

Pesti and Elmo are my go tos

I prefer LMGs and AR's

[opal radish]

famas for using focused only

[limpid pond]

currently, i have a Elmo, Big Show + Striker, Coyotes and Grupo Chest+Obliterate

[opal radish]

i use sleipner with perfect focus

[tender notch]

i mean famas for no focus builds as well 😛 it out dps elmo still

[limpid pond]

doesnt focus require that scope though?

[tender notch]

yup

[limpid pond]

then no go for me

im not a fan of 8x in CQB just to get DPS

[brazen palm]

Any ps player able help me get St. Elmo?

[opal radish]

yeah but only one at a time iirc either burst or sustain at one time depending on the talent

[tender notch]

sounds about right but with no talent famas is only 1% behind on burst and can beat elmo in sustain (with fast hands). well worth the trade.

[opal radish]

fast hands is my weakness anything for that talent wish the reload cap was 0.1s like unwavering

[limpid pond]

for me, having Elmo and Big Show is, Stack Elmo and get the 70 Shock rounds, tag a whole bunch of NPC's shock them, then swap to Big Show and Perfect Thunder - 40% DMG to Shocked Targets

works really good on Elites and heavies

[lone valve]

If math was correct it would've been in March before this

[tender notch]

ish yea. but not next season.

[limpid pond]

alright this map bug is very much irritating me

if you double click ANYWHERE on the map - GAME CRASH

[opal radish]

it's a fast travel feature to desktop not a bug

[desert crystal]

on where

[opal radish]

double click your ig map works on pc

[desert crystal]

oh has the map crash bug come back

[hybrid ore]

For when alt+f4 is too gauche.

[limpid pond]

ima fast travel my foot in ya rear end 😛

[opal radish]

double FF to crash the game

[desert crystal]

wait cant we use mega map again now

[rose kraken]

ngl ever since i reinstalled the game its been crashing far less, racked up almost 30 hours and its only crashed 3x

[wide lotus]

apparently Golden Bullet is gonna last 2 more weeks then usual n then SHD exposed aswell

[limpid pond]

its bad enough the game requires this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/uwzv6n/div_2_crash_fix_stopped_interacting_with_windows/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qzM__kVLB0

to fix most of the buffer overflows ( which is a RECORD BREAKING number of them I might add, i have NEVER seen a game from a AAA Rated Developer cause this many issues with Buffer Overflow Errors in my 21 years of IT )

but now, you even accidentally double left click on the map it crashes the game.....

[limpid pond]

where have you been the last half an hour?"

[wide lotus]

on twitter

[desert crystal]

not had that problem since upgradeing ram

[wide lotus]

didnt see it till rn but they just posted tht on twitter so yea

[limpid pond]

i have 64GB of DDR4

[desert crystal]

oh right thats well enugh

[kind sierra]

Never played a raid yet, what's the point in them?

Do they drop different items

[wide lotus]

tbh exotics n achievements

[limpid pond]

scroll back up about half an hour of messages here, we have been talking about it already 😛 in fact, we posted it within the first minute of it getting posted on twitter 😛

[wide lotus]

regulus u can only get for IH raid Eb and Ravenous u can get from DZ aswell as Raid but thts about it tbh unless u care about speedruns n etc

[limpid pond]

Golden Bullet !!! Lots and Lots of extra Golden Bullet!!!

and re-run past Apparel events 😄

[desert crystal]

are you sure

[limpid pond]

Ill take Guardian also, but Golden Bullet FTW!!!!

next month = annual OS Wipe - JOY!!!

[desert crystal]

how come

[wide lotus]

they delayed Season 2

by 4 months so we wont have it till October

[desert crystal]

i no they did

[wide lotus]

yea so they extended Global events by like 2 weeks or so .

[desert crystal]

@wide lotus you mean 4 weeks

[wide lotus]

well yes shd exposed n golden bullet are two each i think in additional

[limpid pond]

i do it every year, fresh OS. I do a full tear down of hardware and cleaning as well, new thermal paste for CPU and GPU, wipe down of all dusty surfaces.

[opal radish]

we need reanimated i waana do legendary dua with d50

[limpid pond]

ewww

lol

[desert crystal]

is that not a pistol

[opal radish]

yeah

[limpid pond]

i own a Deagle 50, FUN

[warm minnow]

@opal radish If you were to pick on which one will you go for 7900xt or 4070ti?

[opal radish]

4070ti cause it has more feature set

[desert crystal]

any one no why 16gb will run division 2 fine yet when i atualy try and run a 16gb game on it it crashes to desktop past the menu screens

[warm minnow]

I see.

[opal radish]

it really is plain raster is good but ray tracing and upscaling nice to have and also the nvenc and efficiency

[warm minnow]

Alright I'm just looking around since they're both around the same price atm.

[opal radish]

really?

need to look at some benchmark i forgot the difference b/w them

but yeah nvidia GPU also double as professional cards

[broken solstice]

16gb ram is pretty low

[opal radish]

i remember 7900xtx being more expensive

[warm minnow]

Its like 1-1.2k atm

[opal radish]

not really it's fine atm

[warm minnow]

xt and ti is around 7-800

for me atleast

[opal radish]

we should move the discussion to #off-topic-discussions otherwise message will be gone lol

[broken solstice]

ah ok thats good then. im just used to having a lot more ram than i need for games because i do music and audio recording editing and mixing etc

[opal radish]

yeah but for games you are fine you want your cpu and gpu to better

also 16GB in dual channel not single

[limpid pond]

anyone know if i can buy a Black Tusk Flag?

[broken solstice]

oh yeah true, but if you're trying to run cyberpunk or something it might be an issue. this is a first though im usually hearing about div2 crashing relentlessly while other games run great

[vocal halo]

#news-and-announcements message 4 month per season?
thats 121 days per season
for 4 seasons thatd be 484 days
as youd lot obv know theres only 365 days in a year
wich fits 4 season each lasting 3 month in perfectly
this whould lead into next year unless thay cancel a season

[broken solstice]

i wonder if they thought of that

[rich shadow]

They need more time

of course they did

[vocal halo]

by then y5s4 whouldnt be y5

itd be y6s1

[broken solstice]

im just glad we're still getting anything. its amazing to me that its gone on this long.

[hybrid ore]

plottwist: season 2 will be an hour long.

and then we go by star wars rules, where season 3 comes after 6.

[vocal halo]

unless ofc thay count y5 as year of the game coming out from month not actualy year

wich doesnt make much sense

[opal radish]

as long as this game is alive and kicking i don't mind if they take a bit of time

[winter elm]

We're running a survey and would love your input on the latest season of Tom Clancy's The Division 2, Year 5 Season 1: Broken Wings. Please let us know what you think.

Thank you (no) for not letting me take the survey, error 403 comes out.

[broken solstice]

pure coincidence. nothing suspicious

[desert crystal]

isnt that the new minimum

[broken solstice]

yeah, minimum means something

kinda like minimum wage. you'll take it if you have to, but its not ideal

[frozen meadow]

for gaming yes

id argue you can do tons of things with 8gb (i have a laptop with 8gb i use for cad which isnt ideal in the damned slightest but still works super well)

[broken solstice]

8bg in drafting software? thats impressive.. 3D cad?

2D is just a bunch of layers of lines, so that makes good sense tho

[opal radish]

just basic tasks too be honest in 8GB but yeah it is more than enough for normal use

[frozen meadow]

inventor

[broken solstice]

yeah totally. i do not disagree with that

[broken solstice]

wtf

[frozen meadow]

xD

[broken solstice]

crazy

[real creek]

Inventor is gud tho. I use 360 fusion now and it's just so different.

Also lacking in sheet metal functions.

[frozen meadow]

yeah fusion is a no for me, hate it

[real creek]

I personally do not like it.

[frozen meadow]

you should try out solidworks, they give out a $10/m subscription for hobbyists

[broken solstice]

yeah ive used both. 360 is more of an all around drafting program. inventor feels more specialized

[frozen meadow]

i dont need an all around

ill just use all the specialized programs lol

[broken solstice]

yup soildworks is amazing for what it costs

[frozen meadow]

ive used inventor the past 5 years, never dove into solidworks

[broken solstice]

its industry standard.. outdated

[real creek]

Fusion 360 free cause of work tho. Free is nice and I have to use it for work.

[frozen meadow]

SW and inventor are industry standards

[broken solstice]

i know but the autodesk stuff seems better

[frozen meadow]

its not, autodesk drive is the worst thing ive ever experienced

[broken solstice]

well i dont like that either

[frozen meadow]

its worse than creative cloud lmao

[frozen meadow]

i was forced to install it to use recap

which i still have no freaking clue how to use lmao

[broken solstice]

rough. i dont like anything where i cant find what i need right on my drive

[frozen meadow]

yeah i use onedrive for most things

[broken solstice]

yeah cant really avoid that. ive been trying to but i dont know what im doing there

[opal radish]

Mega.nz best imo

[rich shadow]

32gb minimum these days

[broken solstice]

ah thanks. so i wasnt doing overkill when i maxed out my laptop at 40

[real creek]

Yeah I put 32 in my rigs and I'm wondering when I'll finally feel like I need more than that.

[frozen meadow]

isnt that a retailer

[opal radish]

i want to try game on sapphire rappids hbm

[frozen meadow]

wait

[opal radish]

no a cloud drive best imo

[frozen meadow]

i was thinking of megekko.nl (i hope i got that right)

[frozen meadow]

onedrive windows integration is top notch tho

[broken solstice]

when im recording in wav format and i have 15 audio tracks in the mixer, even the 40 is still not the best

[frozen meadow]

what program do u use

[opal radish]

yeah but it fucks too much with small files the game generates

[broken solstice]

at the studio - protools. at home, studio one. a cheapy one that works good enough for what i rough draft at home

[frozen meadow]

Fair

[frozen meadow]

Storing games on cloud? Hell no

[opal radish]

no div2 cache files it back up that too

have to remove documents from the sync

[frozen meadow]

It works fine for me lmao

[frozen meadow]

Maybe that's why you crash

[limpid pond]

mornin evee

[opal radish]

no i have turned it off completely

[frozen meadow]

Maybe that's why you crash

[opal radish]

don't need it i already have 2 backups of my data

1 in cloud and 1 physical

[opal radish]

lmafao try double click on division map

[frozen meadow]

I do no problem xD

[opal radish]

lol or you will crash if you do it 🙂

[frozen meadow]

Few weeks ago you told me to do it and I did

No offense but you have zero clue what ram is do you

[broken solstice]

its a dodge truck, and an animal, an a verb for when you smash your car into things

[frozen meadow]

Deleted message

Lmao

[broken solstice]

ouch. that hurts dont do that

i bet they know what ram is

[rough sleet]

guts. glory. RAM. XD

[broken solstice]

heh

[real creek]

Everyone probably knows what RAM is just like they know what a car is, just understanding how it all works is diff.

[broken solstice]

oh... good point

[opal radish]

yeah it works too differently

i want to game on sapphire rappids hbm

[gaunt dust]

Have they adjusted the rewards for Descent?

[rough sleet]

adjusted rewards? no, latest changes more or less were toning nemesis down for solos, removing directives to reduce XP earned, and swapped the faction loop rng a bit. but the actual rewards weren't really touched at all so far.

[frozen meadow]

things dont just "dont boot" if you dont have enough ram

[real creek]

Yeah but windows has page filing and will just use that vs not booting typically right? You'll just feel the performance hit.

[frozen meadow]

but it still opens

[opal radish]

paging is way too slow unless you have Optane

[frozen meadow]

optane is irrelevant af lmfao

[opal radish]

no it's not it just expensive but it has far too much endurance

[frozen meadow]

which optane

[opal radish]

way lower latency than nand too and bit addressable vs page addressable and not to mention liftime

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/201860/intel-optane-ssd-dc-p5800x-series-800gb-2-5in-pcie-x4-3d-xpoint/specifications.html

[opal radish]

@frozen meadow what do you think now? about optane

extremely responsive and fast but niche

[frozen meadow]

enterprise optane is cool but they tried to make it consumer grade once and it failed massively

[opal radish]

yeah cause no use in real World

[frozen meadow]

i was referring to consumer grade lol

[opal radish]

and damm expensive

[opal radish]

that was fast too but yeah the endurance rating is something else on them

[frozen meadow]

consumer grade it was irrelevant

[frozen meadow]

also uh

pcie 5 is faster than optane

so we need new optane on that now

[opal radish]

not at low queue depth

[opal radish]

but will not be faster in sustained write 🤣 🤣

that thing can maintain it's bandwidth till you are writing

[frozen meadow]

sustained and sequential are the same right

[opal radish]

no

[frozen meadow]

hold on

ok so the crucial t700

[opal radish]

i am talking about writing content on disk may be random or sequential

[frozen meadow]

is 11,800mbps sequential right

and 12,400 sequential read

[opal radish]

lets take this conversation in dms

otherwise it will be gone

[frozen meadow]

or #off-topic-discussions

[bold bridge]

Hi. If I create a new Agent. Use my transmog skins from my another agent or do i have to buy them again ?

[rough sleet]

apparel items and transmog skins are account wide IIRC.

[bold bridge]

thank you :))

[upper oriole]

ahh Starfield.. No Mans Sky, with Fallout 4 graphics!

[nocturne cypress]

Damn you Ubisoft why the hell you nerf XP for control points!

Man it was only 2 weeks ago I could level up my watch on challenge difficulty with 4 objectives ez

[real creek]

Pretty sure nothing has changed in two weeks.

[nocturne cypress]

Nope cause exp definitely had to be nerfed

[rough sleet]

nerf xp for control points? you mean buff? they got buffed....

[opal radish]

yeah double xp that time

[rough sleet]

but yeah, that was a bit ago....

[opal radish]

ran out

[nocturne cypress]

I was curious how much do id get on heroic with all directives and it was as much as I got for doing challenge and 4 directives a week ago

Oh that's what it was?

Damn

[rough sleet]

every time a manhunt target is released you get double XP for first 15 levels....yup.

[nocturne cypress]

I go cry now

[opal radish]

cry as much as you want we are with you we feel the xp pain too

[nocturne cypress]

So the only way I can get enough XP to level up my watch is by doing cp hardest difficulty

😭

[opal radish]

no by doing public execution hardest difficulty faster

for the same time you will get around 2X the xp cp takes time

of like 4-5 minutes if you are not running hh

just use hf with scorpio for that

[nocturne cypress]

I don't get PE'S much

[opal radish]

don't complete tidal basin and keep resetting the map

[nocturne cypress]

I never do

[whole hull]

I clear a heroic cp 5 directives in like 5-10 mins

[real creek]

All your cps red tho?

[whole hull]

And I reset the cp and then I don't have to run around

[real creek]

What's the fastest xp farm is always going to be different for everyone, some can't handle all directives, some don't have a regulus HH build and know the spawns.

[rough sleet]

preach! \o/

[nocturne cypress]

Havi have this build but I oftenly get fucked in the ass trying to do it

[real creek]

Is it a HF version?

[nocturne cypress]

It should be

Nah

[real creek]

Way more survivability and it's actually more damage once you get HF stacked up.

[nocturne cypress]

It was tip of the spear

[real creek]

Oh man you should try out the HF regulus then. 20% AOK and 100% health on kill.

[nocturne cypress]

I believe I picked tip of the spear cause it was easy to start the high dmg off with the tac50

I did and I remember disliking it

[real creek]

Once I've got HF fully stacked I'm hitting 19ish mil. Yeah opening with tac and swaping sounds painful.

[nocturne cypress]

But I can clear out navy plaza in 5-6m

[nocturne cypress]

It's not

Instant 10m headshot

Or so

Idk been a while

[whole hull]

Striker with the new exotic ar ez

[nocturne cypress]

Imma stick with doing navy plaza h4. I get 700k xp and I can either get the missing do from a nearby activity or just killing the enemies

[nocturne cypress]

It's what I use the most these days, atleast until lady death gets a buff

[tender wave]

Sleeping giant is good, can do in ~3m from safehouse to capture, heroic +5, with hh determined build

[nocturne cypress]

Yo does eclipse protocol spread no longer prox firewall ammo count

Where's sleeping giant and how?

[tender wave]

I've got a video somewhere, let me find the link

[nocturne cypress]

Does sleeping giant also have only one spawn point for the control point?

[tender wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVprI-cOpHo

couple of spawnpoints for both stages but they're easy to cover for the most part

[whole hull]

Death doesn't need a buff

[nocturne cypress]

HERESY!

[nocturne cypress]

Navy plaza is better, I'll make a vid to show you

[whole hull]

Death is Death Death always wins

[nocturne cypress]

I'm not that good at sniping so imma just mow them down with Elmo

[tender wave]

the beauty of determined is you only occasionally need to headshot - most of those shots are bodyshots (hence much faster to aim). Advantage of Sleeping Giant is outcasts don't wear helmets (unlike some True Sons) which break the Determined chain

[tender wave]

don't bother with a vid for my sake, I'm familiar with Navy Plaza spawns (and also generally have no need to xp farm for myself)

[nocturne cypress]

Ah ok. I don't snipe as often as I used to, I'm not as good. And good cause I kinda messed up the filming

I don't have my expertise full yet so I'm trynna grind up to do it

[full zinc]

i found the area north of tidal is pretty good for grinding xp. its packed with propaganda and executions , all very close

[glass swift]

This game is allready 5 y old

Man the time flies like wow

[opal radish]

only applicable if tidal not completed

[broken solstice]

Ahh just paid off my student loans. Feels good

[nocturne cypress]

I swear I hate the division sometimes

Like I was just standing in the same spot on my phone for who knows how long next to a damn checkpoint, not a single enemy saw me, and not a single enemy wandered nearby but now that I've finished the 1st half I get pinched by separate wandering factions

[broken solstice]

Damn. Ya gotta stay inside the loot room (if ur talking about a control point)

[opal radish]

dont call reinforcement tull you clear no enemies will come xDd

[broken solstice]

Wandering patrols can still stumble across you

[opal radish]

yeah bad luck or resources convoy

[broken solstice]

I finished a control point yesterday and then more and more waves started showing up. I was like wtf I already conquered this CP. Turns out it was two resource convoys

[rough sleet]

best times \o/

[broken solstice]

It was good times

Cuz my objective was to kill cleaner elites and they just kept coming

[odd drift]

What do y’all think of heartlands?

[broken solstice]

Not very interested. Maybe I'll try it though. As long as everyone doesn't immediately trash it

[upper oriole]

[odd drift]

I heard it’s free tho

[hybrid ore]

It is free to play.

[whole hull]

for all?

I thought it was in like a closed beta

Then again I am late to the div party lol

[hybrid ore]

There was a closed beta, there may be another one.
It's not out yet, but when it is: free.

[whole hull]

Oh shit nice

Will it be like an expansion to div 2 or a whole different game

[hybrid ore]

Totally separate game.

[whole hull]

Ah so more grinding

[hybrid ore]

although there is DLC coming for div2 some time next year, during "Season 4". We're currently in Season 1.
No word yet if it's going to be paid, but I suspect it will be. Like WONY.

[whole hull]

Pretty sure WONY was given to people that had bought the special edition

[kind veldt]

from the look of it heartlands appear to very different thing

it wasnt

WONY was year 2

[hybrid ore]

Aye it had its own special edition, but at launch that cost was quite a lot higher.
source: I paid a lot of money for it.

[whole hull]

I never bought WONY and I have it

[kind veldt]

did you buy the game after it's release or before?

[whole hull]

Before

[hybrid ore]

WONY came out a year after div2 did, 2019 and 2020 respectivelly.

[whole hull]

Pre-ordered

[kind veldt]

i dont remember anything about year 2 content being part of any edition

[whole hull]

I don't either

Maybe someone gifted it to me lol

[hybrid ore]

WONY definitely had its own special edition, included the first Season Pass and such.

[odd drift]

It might come late 2023 or early 2024

[whole hull]

Alls I know is I bought the top edition

cause I was expecting div2 to be amazing on release

[hybrid ore]

Season 2 was just delayed until October-ish, so I think we can safely say that Season 4 will be later than early 2024.

[odd drift]

Not everything perfect

[whole hull]

I don't expect stuff to be perfect, but when your first game flops hard and then you bring it back from the dead

and release another one then it should be up to the first games standards imo

[hybrid ore]

Div1 didn't flop.

[whole hull]

It did

[odd drift]

But they made it into a seasonal game div2

[hybrid ore]

In what way did div1 "flop"?

[whole hull]

In the beginning

[hybrid ore]

I played it since late 2016.

[whole hull]

The player base tanked big early in its life

[hybrid ore]

That happens with every online game post-launch. Most of them lose about 90% of their playerbase, because people realise it's just not for them.

It happened with SWTOR too, and yet the game is still around some 12 years later.

[odd drift]

I think the reason why div1 didn’t live up to expectation was because of the lack of interest

[whole hull]

So do all of them get the same articles written about them and do those player bases leaving get labeled as the one of the worst seen in any game like these

[odd drift]

Div2 however had improve its performance by it. And learned their mistakes

[hybrid ore]

Fun fact: Tomb Raider, the reboot, was considered a failure.

that is because projected sales are insanely high to meet investor goals.

It "flopped" in the same way that most movies released don't make money, on paper.

[odd drift]

True. Not every game is perfect nowadays

[hybrid ore]

In any case, I'm looking forward to going back to Brooklyn. It's been a while.
(that's the reported location of the upcoming DLC).

[whole hull]

I don't recall saying I wanted the game to be perfect

[odd drift]

I been planning to play Warlord of New York

[hybrid ore]

It's a lot of fun, short campaign too, and once you're done you get access to a heck of a lot of stuff.

[odd drift]

Hunt down Aaron

[odd drift]

I haven’t bought the expansion

[hybrid ore]

Wait until it's on sale, 75% off is quite common.

[odd drift]

Alright

[hybrid ore]

Welp, there we go. Currently 70% off.

$13 aud for me.

[whole hull]

Buy it of a website for dirt cheap

[neon wyvern]

[reef reef]

dont do that

[kind veldt]

tomb raider recent trilogy is not bad but certainly goes in weird direction, reason thing flop is because everyone thinks that more money = bigger than COD sales

[whole hull]

Why not it saves money

[hybrid ore]

Yeah be careful about those websites.
Some are safe, sure, but a lot are flat-out stealing credit cards to make purchases.

[kind veldt]

i think RE6 suffered from this

[hybrid ore]

The best thing about 6 is that we may see a good version of it soon, considering how good the 4 remake is.

[kind veldt]

and yeah key resellers sites are one way to get screwed, the ycna sell you the wrong region and other stuff

replaying 5 these last few weeks with a friend

[reef reef]

while i'm all for saving money, the tactics that a lot of those websites use to get the keys are sketch as hell

[kind veldt]

still a good game

[odd drift]

I will just buy digitally

[neon wyvern]

Does legendary difficulty exist if no wony?

[kind veldt]

still a very silly game in the wrong ways

[whole hull]

I mean suit yourself I personally never have issues with them

[odd drift]

I bought divison 2 on the first launch

[kind veldt]

capcom should remake the division 2 zombie event we never got

still bothered that the wrong pistol got the samurai edge skin

[hybrid ore]

My cousin had several thousand dollars stolen from them after using g2a.
Just be careful, all I'm saying.

[reef reef]

Regardless, even if you've never had trouble with them, i'd not reccomend them so willfully

[kind veldt]

there are legit sites that work with developers like green man gaming

[reef reef]

stuff like humble bundle or green man gaming is a different story, those are well known and actually back up their sales

[hybrid ore]

Humble is also owned by a major corporation now, which gives it some more safety too.
IGN I believe. Yep.

[kind veldt]

was really weird to find they were hte publisher of project wingman

[reef reef]

humble actually publishes a lot of indie stuff these days

well, indie & smaller studio stuff

[odd drift]

Who here is a solo player

[hybrid ore]

Aspect can vouch for this, it's me.

[kind veldt]

depends on what

[reef reef]

i've never heard of that game, whats it about

[kind veldt]

campaign and manhunts i do solo

rest of hte grind i just press matchmaking and go

[hybrid ore]

I would solo raids if I could manage it.
the less people the better.

[kind veldt]

if only there were something like shorter than raids that had matchmaking and were actually fun

[hybrid ore]

Perhaps in October, we'll see.

[kind veldt]

i hope so

now if there was only an exotic that would go on your hand and used shotgun cartridges in a revolving mechanism

[reef reef]

the wrist destroyer 9000

[hybrid ore]

I was just going to start quoting a certain tarantino movie, but those don't revolve so no clue.

[kind veldt]

golden rhino honestly should have been a revolver shotgun

[dapper wave]

PLATIN AGENT TROPHY UNLOCKED

[eternal mantle]

WHY in the love of god do randoms on descent insist on picking hard difficulty rooms all the time?

[dapper wave]

For charging nemesis faster?

[hybrid ore]

@late shadow You're looking for #lfg-playstation

[zinc shadow]

[wispy heron]

More money

[eternal mantle]

The extra money is not all that useful because they chose workshop with emp hazard and died in that room now is it?

[wispy heron]

Yeah, randos rarely know which rooms are worth the risk

[kind veldt]

if you are playing with randoms the quality of the match will also be random

your RNG comes with extra real life RNG

[opaque lion]

has this delay happened before? are they gonna add more events to pad the duration?

[gilded perch]

Not delay this time, it's call "season not end yet" 🤭🤫

[kind veldt]

oh another extension

did we have a single season on schedule since return?

[dire ravine]

Yeah has happened and we will get more global events

[median merlin]

Tried division 2

No crashes

[hoary flint]

hay guys just started playing. doas anyone got any tips?

[median merlin]

But I am getting Stutters

[opaque lion]

tried lowering some settings?

[kind veldt]

dont rush, dont get attached to gear until you get to the endgame and try out different weapons to see what you like

[hoary flint]

got any tips on leveling up fast?

[sterile ferry]

dont pay attention to your build until you get to lvl 40.
take your time and enjoy the game until then

[hoary flint]

awsome thanks guys

also is the ruthless ak good or not

[bold current]

yo folks

[sterile ferry]

sucks ass

[bold current]

thoughts on the concept of fighting alongside JTF (but buffed) in DC like we did in D1

[sterile ferry]

if theyre actually useful then cool

[bold current]

that would be the idea, yeah

[median merlin]

yup

still happens

[hoary flint]

i think its good but i dont like the recoil on it

[bold current]

like, increased damage, increased accuracy, better AI

[sterile ferry]

once you get to lvl 40 you can get better recoil on all weapons

[bold current]

maybe a medic could help patch you up in the middle of the firefight if you get hurt or go down

[sterile ferry]

i just want the brooklyn dlc to include the div1 safe house

[bold current]

that, and have all the JTF guys at the whitehouse (and the ones fighting alongside you out in the metro area) be geared up like they were in Division 1

[sterile ferry]

+1
theyre div2 gear sucks

[bold current]

helmets, IBA body armor, the signature green markings, maybe even an M16A4 among all the M4s they use

[bold current]

yeah

[bold current]

I remember walking into the WH base for the first time going "hey, wait... where's all the gear you're supposed to wear...?"

"No wonder you guys took so many casualties"

but in this concept, they'd be equipped like they should, armed like they should, and be a substantial improvement compared to their abilities and AI in The Division 1

[frozen meadow]

To be fair the control point support is virtually invincible

[sterile ferry]

except when he gets staggered on his way to rescue you and then he totally forgets you even existed

[coral ocean]

Grrr. Taking me forever to get the first bounty (pilot). Using a Striker build with a LMG. Attributes and such are not maxed, so I am apparently a bit under powered. Got through the preliminaries ok, but been killed so many times in the Space HQ (ugh!) . Then, cleared all the interior floors only to find I cannot open doors to roof stairs. Spent an hour going all inside the building, up and down the floors, but no code or key anywhere. Finally had to give up. I must be cursed. Not fun. Sorry, but just venting. 😖

[opal radish]

you are using an lmg their suppression mechanics makes it hard sometimes use an ar

[coral ocean]

Thx. I may have to go that route. I am just addicted to those 100 magazine sizes. 😅 Now that you mention it, I have seen some striker builds that use an AR for DPS. Most use St Elmos Engine, which, of course I don't have, so I'll have to go farm for... <sigh>

[opal radish]

try famas or m4 with fast hands or strained

[coral ocean]

👍 Thx, I'll try those.

[rose kraken]

@opal radish just to confirm w&h is walker harris co right

[opal radish]

yess

[rose kraken]

ok

[lean cosmos]

The mision to get Faye Lau. Was that an timed event or ?
Cause i have nothing that points in that direction in game

[tender wave]

Head to camp white oak, open mission options and look for the 'toggle mission mode' prompt

[opal radish]

you have to toggle the white oak mission but first have to unlock it

[lean cosmos]

i finished all and everything in DC now ( Cooney island missions.)
but how do i unlock the white oak missions ?

[opal radish]

what is your shd lvl have you beat new York dlc?

[lean cosmos]

I did

i am lvl 40 and shd lvl 32

[opal radish]

ok you have to reach season lvl something first to unlock camp white oak

go to menu->season to track the level required

[lean cosmos]

you mean this season that is going on right now

[opal radish]

yeah

[lean cosmos]

im entering the game now

god this takes time

@opal radish
i am season lvl 23. but i cant see anything in the season that has to do with Faye Lau

its just the manhunt

[hybrid ore]

The Manhunt is the mission at Camp White Oak.

all former Manhunts are unlocked permanently once you reach their tier in the Season Pass.

[lean cosmos]

yeah i understood that now but how do i change season ?

[opal radish]

yes have to reach season lvl to unlock previous manhunts

[opal radish]

you can't

[hybrid ore]

They're all in every following Season.
This one has all previous, the next one will have all these and this one too.

just play the Season Pass, once you reach about Lvl 70 you'll have them all unlocked.

[lean cosmos]

so you telling me i cant get to previous seasons before i have a certain lvl

this means that if i never go to 70 in any future seasons i cant play the faye lau missions ?

[opal radish]

yeah you have to reach certain lvl to unlock previous season manhunts

[lean cosmos]

fuck that is dumb

[opal radish]

you can just have to reach shd lvl in season to unlock it

[hybrid ore]

Levelling up the Season Pass is very very very very quick.
Seriously, you can go to 100 in a week.

[opal radish]

in a day if you playe for like 5-6 hrs

[hybrid ore]

and this one just got extended to October.

[lean cosmos]

ahh so you talk about SHD levels

not season levels

[opal radish]

yes

[lean cosmos]

ahh ok

[hybrid ore]

No, @opal radish you're confusing them. Stop.
SHD Level does not factor in to it.

[lean cosmos]

damn there is so many different levels here

[opal radish]

it works simultaneously afaik

[hybrid ore]

Stop trying to help.

[opal radish]

ok👍

[hybrid ore]

It's very simple: Season level is separate to your SHD level.
both are increased passively,
just play the game and you will hit 100 before you know it.
You have until October.

[lean cosmos]

Season level 100 right ?

that is what you are saying

[hybrid ore]

Yep, after Season Lvl 100 you start to get free loot caches each level increase. About Heroic tier, roughly.

[lean cosmos]

so when this season ends all that goes away then we cant get old manhunts anymore ?

and when next season starts we have to be lvl 100 to unlock them again

[hybrid ore]

The Manhunt is unlocked permanently once you reach that Season Tier.

[lean cosmos]

even after the season is closed ?

[hybrid ore]

Permanently.

[lean cosmos]

wonderful

thx alot my friend 🙂

[hybrid ore]

nw Agent, if you need any questions answered feel free to ask away. We were all new once.
and for builds I can highly recommend #td2-build-advice > 📌 pinned-message > spreadsheet > builds. All tested out.

[lean cosmos]

yeah i have been in that channel to. but i am not there yet so i can and want to start building gear setups.

i am pretty much as casual as you can get

[opal radish]

you might want to start building and farming gear

[hybrid ore]

If you are Lvl 40, then you're there.

Once you had the SHD watch, it's the endgame.

[lean cosmos]

ok

i was afraid youd say that

[echo marsh]

Jeez I'm the last person in my clan and got turned into commander

[opal radish]

cause without good gear you are gonna struggle at higher difficulty

[hybrid ore]

I can recommend a tank/dps hybrid build as a starter, gearset setups are easier to build as they require less specific farming.
Countdown is great for loot, play it on Challeging and watch it come flooding in.

[lean cosmos]

yeah i figured it is the countdown im aiming for

Thx for all help 🙂

[echo marsh]

I've honestly never tried countdown

[opal radish]

it's best method to farm loot in this game very easy to understand just follow group and skip vips

[hybrid ore]

Around 40 drops per run on average (after testing roughly 100 matches), and you can set your own TL.
no Directives though.

[echo marsh]

I see

[hybrid ore]

matchmake for Challenging and you'll find a group within a few seconds.
don't bother going Heroic unless you have a dedicated team. Loot is similar in quality anyway.

[opal radish]

heroic cd is tougher than challenging

for sure tanky enemies deal more damage

there you need good builds otherwise you struggle on heroic cd

[hybrid ore]

the loot itself is kind of an oddball in Countdown, the rolls anyway.
think of it like a scale of 1-5. 1 being normal and 5 being Legendary.
Challenging Countdown is a 3.5, Heroic is 4.5

[opal radish]

yeah heroic cd loots roll are amazing getting full rolls are quite easy

once you get good build you can farm heroic cd for rolls for recalibration Library

and it's about time you focus on getting few crucial rolls like chc/chd/status dttoc dta in your Library

and the 3 main cores for all gears

[echo marsh]

I see. I'll have to keep that in mind

[kind sierra]

i still havent got a cayotes mask or catharsis. How rare are these????

[opal radish]

coyote and catharsis are both farmable in Targetted loot

select mask in countdown

[kind sierra]

I have been trying for YEARS

[broken solstice]

damn. i have gotten over a dozen coyotes masks like just this year. so many that i threw out any that werent absolutely perfect. now i have 4 characters with god rolled coyotes. drops all the time esp from caches/weekly resource project

catharsis ive only gotten a few

[hybrid ore]

Countdown is less than a year old, Catharsis is just over a year.
And the Season Pass with Coyotes as a free drop has been run twice since 2020.

@kind sierra If you're having trouble farming it out, try adding on some Directives or spamming Countdown. Every 2-ish runs you'll get enough Credits to buy an Exotic cache too.

[full zinc]

👆 countdown is the answer. target masks

[cunning forum]

heroic is pretty easy even for beginners, you just need some good guys in thw group

[cunning forum]

got a coyotes on my xbox account the first time i ran the jtc mission on challenging, it was god rolled too

[inland minnow]

who's the dz tryhards here

[rose kraken]

great, just randomly got disconnected from dc

and i had the hotshot parts i wanted, ffs

[pine seal]

how often are new cosmetics added to the store?

[kind sierra]

I need yahl

[hybrid ore]

Yaahl is actually locked to the DZ, or if you craft "random brand" pieces. There's also a very rare chance for it to be at an LZ vendor, but it is very rare.

[kind sierra]

im too weak for dc

[surreal orbit]

Currently a yahl backpack at the clan vendor

[opal radish]

you can deconstruct yah for mats and than craft it

[hybrid ore]

Note: you can only craft 3/6 of the Yaahl pieces, as there's only blueprints for those 3. (the left ones, IIRC)
So be prepared to shuffle your build around if you need it.

[edgy ermine]

Moin

[rose kraken]

@opal radish you said something about selecting countdown targeted loot, how do i do that

[opal radish]

go to countdown icon on map press H

and select desired item to farm

[rose kraken]

thanks

[rose kraken]

countdown is good fun, both with the amount of loot in it and the chaos of 8 players

[swift dagger]

(new player) probably a dumb question but is there any negatives to optimizing exotics? was going to optimize my memento backpack but if i can only do it once i was gonna wait

[opal radish]

not really as long it has near maxed stats optimisation is the way to go i fit has some low stats recraft it with the blueprints

[rose kraken]

first countdown run with body armor loot and i got chainkiller, nice

can you get exotics from cd as well? if so i imagine the drop chances are low

[hybrid ore]

Yes to both points about Exotics.

[swift dagger]

can you only reconfigure once? it has like 75% stats for all so just dont know if i should save it and try and farm another (it was like my second exotic dropped)

[opal radish]

as long as you have mats you can reconfigure

[vale rune]

I dont play division 2 now like waiting 1 month to get year 5 season 2 takes way too long october instead of september

[frozen meadow]

F

[hybrid ore]

It's actually slightly longer than a month. I imagine that doesn't make things better though.
@swift dagger Reconfiguring can be done an infinite number of times on an Exotic, Recalibration can only be done once on gear though.

You are right though, it's better to farm out a new copy unless you are swimming in materials.

[swift dagger]

so for say my st elmos, i see people like having damage to targets out of cover, i have magazine size, would a reconfigure make it re roll that ?

[frozen meadow]

Reconfiguration is rng

But yes you can reroll to get that stat

[swift dagger]

ah yeah as a passed destiny player i know ive prob used up my luck by this point so im not gambling it xD ill wait for another to drop

[zealous monolith]

I just rescued Mari and noticed a figure up in the large windowed area at the top of the arena. He had a red mask on. Anyone else see it?

[hybrid ore]

Yep, it's likely the "Recruiter".

[brave aspen]

I see Preservation is bugged 🤣

How can status effect kills trigger the talent?

[frozen meadow]

That's been reported in trello iirc

[rose kraken]

@opal radish what is white death supposed to have guaranteed? max headshot dmg? cause i got one and the talent is fucking optimist

[tender wave]

yeah it has a higher headshot damage stat than you can get on other MMRs

so you can reroll the talent however you like

[brave aspen]

137% Headshot damage

MMRs are capped at 111%

[opal radish]

wish they don't fix it

[full zinc]

Roll determined on that and profit

[pine seal]

something wrong with servers?

[clever blade]

When does the season end?

[dire ravine]

Never lol

[hybrid ore]

Current official word is "October".
#news-and-announcements

[clever blade]

😩

I just want it to end already, need new stuff to grind and Remnant is boring now

[dire ravine]

yeah got delayed but would rather a delay than drop a buggy mess

And we'll get more global events

[rustic glade]

Was told the season is extended to October please say sike

[lavish rampart]

it isnt a sike

[rustic glade]

🗿

[lean cosmos]

my cooney island missions is still blue. Is that right ?

[lavish rampart]

sometimes if you select it or mm it/change difficulty its get "activated" aka blue

[azure lintel]

I love how the QM compliments when you dance in front of him ❤️

[kind veldt]

Remnant archtypes at least has good and fun classes

God still think specs are just disappointing

[flat kayak]

What’s up guys new to the discord looking to get together and play some division 2 add me on Ubisoft name@is same@as discord name

[carmine bramble]

@broken solstice how u find bullet company?

[broken solstice]

i have no idea.. maybe soak disco? would that make sense

it was a long time ago but i remember it was a bit of a pain to find it

[flat kayak]

I just got the ninja bike after grinding for 3 days 😂

[broken solstice]

congrats. enjoy it before everyone tells you how shit it is

[inland minnow]

Dude shoots 100m Regulus HS lol

[gilded perch]

if you have record it...

Imagine I always called "cheater" in dz, by people in this discord group

[inland minnow]

If i'll run to him/her once again, i'll be sure to, but you can experience yourself if you see them

100m insta HS through covers, hm, hard to achieve 😆

[crude cave]

so i'm in my stash and some jtf random walks right up beside me, gives me the stink eye for a good 5 seconds, and then just walks off without a word

jtf are rude af
edit: apparently they also have god on their side because the moment i typed that i got hit by a power outage

[formal palm]

What has better loot, summit vs descent vs countdown?

[inland minnow]

CD

[undone timber]

Descent has virtually no loot at all and the volume of loot in summit is much less

If you're looking for something specific countdown is the way to go

[gilded perch]

I am not doubt you, but I mean you don't have evidence to show people, you can even say someone is flying, it is not a good thing of point out someone is cheating without any evidence

Imagine those noob right here, call me cheater but without any evidence 🤭

[azure lintel]

I did every legendary stronghold in one day

Jeezus

Full operator outfit too. What a achievement for me :).

[sharp plaza]

Look at me in the eyes and tell me the fastest way to lvl expertise

[real moth]

Depends on shd level. If you have a really high level, run secondary character through wony, collect printer filament from watch and donate towards expertise.

The answer you're seeking is probably countdown though

[sharp plaza]

I do have a high level character, i think I’ll try that, countdown works but god it takes forever

[real moth]

It takes 300 watchpoints to fully level up one item, since that converts to 3000 printer filament. So with that information you can kinda guess how many items you can level up per wony run

[fluid meadow]

20-23 requires 90 proficiency points so you'll need to be 3500shd if you want to level up every ny run

You can increase your printer filament gains by using ecredits and buying mods but it'll take you a lot longer

[sweet beacon]

Hey question how can I use my ps5 controller to play d2 just got new controller for my pc

[plush osprey]

Um question.
How do settlement blockade happen?

[inland minnow]

You said your part, i said mine.

[gilded perch]

OK so let say your part, do u have any evidence to prove that guy shoot you through a "actually" walls?

[opal radish]

this used to happen in div1 a lot a guy killed 6-7 agents out of nowhere once including me that was hilarious all down within few seconds

👀

[gilded perch]

You, game.keeps.loading , you flying at dz, this used to happen in div1 a guy flying at dz, I don't have evidence to prove you flying but you are cheater for sure

Do you understand right now?

[opal radish]

yeah i know i can give proof for div1

marcostyle has. a hacker with him in a video

not sure about div2 though

[gilded perch]

Proof for div1 doesn't mean a someone also hack in div2, unless you also have a proof for that guy

[opal radish]

agreed,never encountered any hacker in div2

[real creek]

I know a hacker... Called gogamer or something right?

[opal radish]

lmao it's nerfking nowadays gogamer is history xDd

ever since convoy nerf

[real creek]

Sounds like you admitted everything!

[opal radish]

lol i have only used cheats in fallout and nfs most wanted 2012 so i can use infinite nitro that's about it

[real creek]

lol yeah today while doing that white sniper build it was pretty rough because I only had like 170k armor and like no weapon handling. Otherwise was able to do a CP pretty easily.

[opal radish]

i can imagine you are very very squishy with that

[real creek]

lil decoy and determined is dumb op. I tested in the shooting range so I already knew I'd be able to do it.

[opal radish]

what is your dmg cap with wd around 10mil?

[real creek]

With just a chain killer it was 11.3 mil I think.

[opal radish]

nice any expertise?

[rose kraken]

why the 2012

[real creek]

Only 4%

Also damage to armor on it.

[opal radish]

as @small spear tested 5% wd > 15% hsd

[opal radish]

that raises cap for armour too on max stack

[real creek]

Well I think DTTOOC would net a higher damage considering 4% more on that stat. I just don't have one and have neglected farming one.

[opal radish]

dttoc doesn't work at max cap

only twd awd health dmg and armor affects it

that is why at max cap m870 with health will do more than the one with dttoc at max hh stack

[dawn flint]

is there no lounge vc?

[opal radish]

gone with the wind check #discord-news

[dawn flint]

damn im bored i just wanna farm nd chat

[opal radish]

try community server

[real creek]

Well 9.9 mil will one shot in solo heroic which should still be possible without expertise but you probably would need 1k SHD and near max rolled chest and WD

[opal radish]

yeah 10% gonna affect it lot

[dawn flint]

inv?

[fluid meadow]

Is the survivalist medkit range really 20m? It feels way shorter

[ripe chasm]

Any new way to get "out" since coney island entrance was patched? Want to take pictures

[rose kraken]

whats the drop chance for exotics in cd, cause i just got 2 of them in 1 run

lmao a 3rd one

[real creek]

Challenging. 006% heroic .008%

[inland minnow]

As i mentioned before, if you meet that guy in any DZ zones, you can see for yourself. If i'll see another one running around shooting through walls i'll be sure to rec it just to show as 'evidence'.
I said it since 4 people experienced being shreded that from him & his buddy but yeah.

Maybe i'm wrong but i've never seen another player shooting with regulus insta headshots from that far apart.

[rose kraken]

ffs the game crashed at the last part of cd

[inland minnow]

Yup, happens

[halcyon radish]

A known problem didn't fixed like 3 seasons

[eternal mantle]

the fact that there have been wallhacks aimbots and esp since day 1 of Div 2?

nah you're not wrong

but you're not necessarily right either

some people are really really good at this game

[inland minnow]

I've seen wallhacks and aimlock in CD, have a vid somewhere even
About DZ i might be wrong, but that was very sceptical atleast yesterday 😄 dude has unlimited Regulus ammo

Come close to a box, already prefires it with a full mag

Just a sus thingy, but i'm not DZ expert so fair enough

[rose kraken]

man bullet king is really fun

whats not fun is getting 2 chameleons in cd

[inland minnow]

Just get elmo's engine and scorp, whatever else is eh, good for specifically designed builds

[tender wave]

Good for exotic components

[rose kraken]

i have scorpio, trying to get elmo rn

just to be clear elmo counts as an ar right, not an smg?

[tawdry lynx]

Yes it's an AR

[tender wave]

Unlike chameleon, which just pretends to be an AR

[rich shadow]

Just get to season lvl 90

[rose kraken]

im at like lvl 25 rn

i dont think i can get it before it ends, hell ill probably get it from cd and caches sooner

[rich shadow]

Yea it doesn't take long.

You just use directives and do some convoys

For fast levels

[tender wave]

Public executions, convoys are no longer good for xp farming

[rich shadow]

Ends in months

[rich shadow]

What's better?

[tender wave]

Public executions

[blazing timber]

theres still 4 weeks left just farm bounties and countdown to gain xp

[tender wave]

The comma was intended to indicate 'instead of', not 'and'.

[rich shadow]

Sorry?

I thought convoys were good for xp, even after the nerf

[tender wave]

Not really, they get wayyy less xp now

Top activities for xp are public executions, propaganda and control points

[rich shadow]

But they take minutes

[tender wave]

Still though

[rich shadow]

It's pretty easy to get to season lvl 100 tho.

[tender wave]

If you've got a build to cope with lots of directives, and the hours to put in, then yeah

Next week will be best for xp farming, golden bullet is on

Faster farming AND more rewards

[inland minnow]

Yeah, just go for AR loot pool and after few runs you should get it

[inland minnow]

Convoys? Xd

[tender wave]

I don't know if that's a question

[inland minnow]

Just put heroic, 4 directives nd you're set, convoys prob are one of the best for xp

[tender wave]

*used to be one of the best

[inland minnow]

*sure

Was there a nerf of convoys xp that this info ia accurate?

[tender wave]

They revamped xp from all activities and also removed the double xp that convoys gave you

[inland minnow]

bruh

still fast xp ngl, 2 convoys doable in time lapse that takes to clear a PE or so

[tender wave]

Eg now a convoy gives 129k (heroic no directives) while a public execution gives 230k, and only has the one reinforcement wave

Add in running time to reach said activities

[inland minnow]

PE with directives or without?

[tender wave]

Same as convoy, heroic no directives

[inland minnow]

Just do all activites that come across, most xp overall

[tender wave]

CPs are 360k but obviously take longer, still a good option for new players that need to farm blueprints

[tender wave]

That was the intention of the devs with the xp revamp, still players are going to hunt for ways to minmax it

[inland minnow]

True

Just do everything you run into + CD for gear, ezpz

[opal radish]

should've made all xp equal in open world activities

[tender wave]

They tried to make it scale relative to the time taken to do each activity, but didn't entirely succeed

[opal radish]

in the end we have a new activity focused xp

[tender wave]

Eg Territory control only gives 130k despite taking the same time as a public execution

[opal radish]

public execution is always rng sometimes mfer hostage run too far away

ememies too far away it's just take too much time sometimes instead of saving it

[tawdry lynx]

Has anyone else gotten st elmos before reaching 90 I have gotten it two times in countdown

[tender wave]

While propaganda broadcasts give 220k so only slightly less than PE, but have more waves and you have to fetch the key

Yeah St Elmo's is in the standard exotic pool for everyone regardless of season level

[tawdry lynx]

Ohhhh gotchya

[opal radish]

this activity should be redone

best activities imo convoy,territory,pe than propaganda

in term of ease not xp

[tender wave]

If you really want to farm fast then supply drops are a good option, with a high tier decoy you can ignore all enemies and just open the crates for quick completion, 200k a pop

[opal radish]

booring we have determined for such things

make any activity a joke

[warped perch]

so what is the fasted way to get the st elmos

[opal radish]

reach season lvl90 guaranteed or farm tl ar in cd open exo cache rng

[warped perch]

i mean im a new player and i tried to get the pestilence lmg but ye darkzone so now i try to get st elmos

[opal radish]

best way to farm cd with Targeted loot dz is worst for farming exo

lz and raid best way

[warped perch]

from what i heard is that u can get the pestilence only throught Dz

[tender wave]

Pestilence is not dz locked

[warped perch]

ah oke

[tender wave]

None if the exotics are, only some named items, one brand set and one gearset

[warped perch]

so how do i get that lmg then?

[opal radish]

as I've said before farm countdown (CD) eith target loot as lmg

high chances to drop from outcast

[warped perch]

ah oke

[opal radish]

as chameleon has a high chance to drop from true sons Bounty

[warped perch]

chameleon?

[opal radish]

exotic ar

in my opinion farm scorpio and elmos first best 2 easily available exotic weapons rn

[warped perch]

never play CD

played*

[rose kraken]

its pretty fun but it gets boring quite fast

but i suppose you dont do it for fun, you do it for the loot

[warped perch]

do i need people or can i matchmake ?

[rose kraken]

i just do it with randoms, works well enough

[warped perch]

ok cause i dont have friends xD

[rose kraken]

i feel you, ive been playing solo for like 90% of my playtime

[warped perch]

ye XD

[inland minnow]

Me

Same, countdown drops it's parts/whole gun, nice option

[warped perch]

is it enough if i start CD on normal?

[rose kraken]

nah i'd do challenging, since its 8 players youre gonna be fine

[warped perch]

ah oke

[rose kraken]

heroic if you cant find people in challenging

tho gonna have to be careful, heroic hits hard

[tender wave]

challenging generally better when you don't have maxed out build. Just don't bring turret/drone type build, stick to red dps

[inland minnow]

Just go heroic, just do it

Don't waste time on any lower difficulties fr

[tender wave]

just be a drag on your team and increase everyone's chances of failing to extract (if they don't kick you at the start)

challenging countdown gives heroic-tier loot (as far as open world is concerned)

[inland minnow]

Don't equip 6 random pieces and random weapons
Most loved in CD 'types' are" healers and support for extra armour

• dps, easy.

[rich shadow]

Foam CC in CD is awesome

[inland minnow]

Rogues be hatin that

[neon wyvern]

when it works

[inland minnow]

Tip: never join CD and insta leave the game, annoys everyone + makes it harder

[neon wyvern]

could be dc

[inland minnow]

Only occasion when to do it when you see your group going straight to missions instead of running to hunters first even tho you explained in the chat

[inland minnow]

Of course, dc is a seperate problem, that's unfortunate for anyone

[rose kraken]

whats the max amount of coins you can get in cd? most i can push is 184

[tame merlin]

I just played the game again after a break, and I see Shields laying around the White House with the Black Tusk emblem on it.
Are there shield enemies in BT now?
And if so, where can I find them?

[rose kraken]

well look at that i got st elmo

[inland minnow]

224

Or somewhat around that

[rich shadow]

👍🏻

[rose kraken]

also got a white death with maxxed out marksman and crit dmg, damn

[opal radish]

dttoc or dta else no go

[warped perch]

@rose kraken wanna play togehter?

[rose kraken]

right now?

[warped perch]

or in a bit ur call ^^

[rose kraken]

maybe later, brain fried after countdown

[warped perch]

ahha oke ^^

[alpine gale]

just back from me hols and lol season 2 oct 4 months now i just seen the tweet liked the excuse they gave ribs break with laughing

[tender wave]

delayed content or more bugs, which would you rather?

[alpine gale]

a game team that has a clue what their doing maybe like the bugs in the game even from day1 still not fixed 1 day delay or 100 yrs delay the still drop it broke no matter what but then as people say all games have bugs this is the way and god forbid i upset the fan boys as their game never crashes runs flawless

[opal radish]

pretty sure we always get both

[alpine gale]

true every dlc content etc drops broke everytime

[kind veldt]

I mean i think all seasons got delays and none of them launched well

Do i want it to be good? Of course

[alpine gale]

t's a good thing if what they deliver has less bugs, but they have a track record of delaying and still delivering a bug-riddled release.

[kind veldt]

But i dont expect it to launch good anymore

[opal radish]

i don't expect much from them too

[tender wave]

you don't know how much worse it could have been if they didn't delay though, we mostly see the minor bugs - maybe in their test builds they CTD on every fast travel or something

sadly I think 'competent dev team' is just not an available option

[alpine gale]

probs all to make more time for the new story dlc next yr in june im going for

could be worse could be d4 atleast div2 is still going strong lol

[kind veldt]

Well we can only reflect on what we can see

[opal radish]

i don't mind if we get 4 weeks of golden bullet

[full zinc]

I bet they'll toss in some golden bullet or other GE in the time between seasons.

Remember the days when games didnt get expansions/patches.

[opal radish]

yeah

[kind veldt]

They are called wii games

Tho prob some wii games did get patches

[tender wave]

yeah the only games I've put anything like as much time into as Div2 are the elder scrolls ones where the mod scene keeps things fresh with lots of new content

[full zinc]

At least they are doing something with this old game... tbf they could have dropped it a long time ago

[alpine gale]

i suppose having m2 week advents is now good i can log do the 4 missions solo in under 25mins get 40 points and log out till next week to get ano-ther 20 points for the backback hanger to add to me 100 plus i already have

[kind veldt]

If they had dropped i would just never bought another division game

The point of live service is not to make an year of contetn then drop it

[full zinc]

Arma 3 is like that for me 👍 pretty good mod scene

[kind veldt]

Thats why i am quite impressed they stuck to their guts and kept this game going

If you want a game to grow big you need time and money, they are getting time but ubi certainly isnt helping with money

[inland minnow]

For delays devs sometimes rewards us with caches and boosts so be happy about that atleast

Sure they lack content and speed sometimes but Div2 was always repetitive so waitting a bit longer is meh

Not the end of the world

[copper shoal]

And endgame content for both casual and for those who want more challenge.

[inland minnow]

Anyone knows decently good PvP/DZ related clans and any relations who could hook me up w it?

[hybrid ore]

Your best bet is to check down in #td2-clan-recruitment and just ask, that's the place to look for them.

[hybrid ore]

btw, love the pfp.

[inland minnow]

Surely, but when they write on what they're focused, eh

Possible to find some people who might be interested but not whole bunch lol

[hybrid ore]

Could always contact them via whatever method they mention in the post, no harm in just asking.

[inland minnow]

Can't deny

[alpine gale]

@hybrid ore tks smoke me a kipper i will be back for breakfast lol

good ole red dwarf the classics never die

[hybrid ore]

Recently went through Death in Paradise and then found out that Cat was a regular.
blew my mind.

Petition to add some of his outfits as an Apparel Event.

[zinc shadow]

I’ve actually been watching that recently too

[thorny talon]

Nah we need more tacticool korean, Japanese esque outfits

Or something close to gundam 😀

[rose kraken]

more post apocalyptic gear

[opal radish]

we need samurai outfit with a katana meele weapon that deals 3000% meele dmg

or a ninja shuriken skill that marks and throw ninja stars at target

[hybrid ore]

I petition to add a "I'm a giant weeb" patch for game_keep.

and also some of the winter outfits from div1.

[opal radish]

i second that they were great outfits

[undone timber]

I miss single strap bags

[formal helm]

hello chat

Heard you can get referrals here? I'm hoping to get the timepiece trophy lol

I'm asian tz, and also want friends to game with so its a win win for me

[hybrid ore]

Check out #td2-friend-referral for people who are looking to be involved in it.

[elfin fox]

Is descent a good way to grind XP?

[opal radish]

no

[simple orbit]

I've a short question. A teammate can't play the specialization "gunner" (I hope it's the correct English name. With the 50% faster reload for every 3rd reload and this stuff.)
He says that's because he didn't buy the year 1 pass. Is this true? I mean it's deactivated since 2020 and I still can play it.

Do you have an idea why he can't play it?

[opal radish]

have to farm specialization points for maxing out technician,firewall,gunner after unlocking them through specialization challenges

just choose a specialisation play invaded mission gives +5 iirc level up shd gives +3 points

[ruby yoke]

I think he can’t choose them because he haven’t made field research (5 stages) that are necessary for each specialization…

[opal radish]

yeah i think you are right he need to complete challengez

[serene smelt]

Anybody down to run a few missions?

[simple orbit]

@opal radish @ruby yoke But he can't activate the field researches, it's locked for him. That's the weird thing about it.

[opal radish]

what lvl is he?

need more details

cause that's not locked to season pass afaik

[full zinc]

they should be able to view the field research. wont be able to enter the spec tree until unlocked i imagine. it should give them a tool tip to view when they are at the spec counter though

[full zinc]

only activates after unlocked. forgot to tag 👆 . they need to look for view field research when they highlight the spec at the counter

[simple orbit]

Level 40

[opal radish]

you should look at menu and start field reasearch

[simple orbit]

He can inspect the skill tree but don't activate the field research

[opal radish]

must be bugged

or it is already selected

he need to select it from project menu

also you can only select one at a time don't change it to some other spec research else you lose the progress in previous

go to project's in menu

from there select specialization research

[astral jacinth]

Go pet the dog at the castle!

[red light]

Hello everyone

[opal radish]

pet for me not in game

[astral jacinth]

[rose kraken]

what castle dog?

[warped perch]

at haven

[rose kraken]

thats the haven dog then

[warped perch]

thats the only dog i know of

[sterile ferry]

theres one dog in haven and one dog in castle

[oak prawn]

So season 2 gets delayed till early October

[proud musk]

Guys i heard that waveform is good is that correct

[kind veldt]

it's alright

[frozen meadow]

Overrated imo

[dim terrace]

... and your reasons being ...

[frozen meadow]

The damage flip flop is kinda messy

[sterile ferry]

because its never actually 30% damage. it splits between the 2 skills. youre much better with a high end item that gives skill damage to both skills

[dim terrace]

Thank you.

[frozen meadow]

I mean for a second it is lmao

[sterile ferry]

yeah just for a second

[rose kraken]

im running cd, there were 2 named enemies named nerdo.. is this game a joke

[inland minnow]

Guessing DZ and PvP is now broky due to Elmos gun released

gg

[frozen meadow]

I'm fairly sure it'll be nerfed

[neon wyvern]

if they remove the shock ammo rip galvanize builds

[frozen meadow]

They'll prolly nerf the mods

[neon wyvern]

not the mods

[inland minnow]

Mods are fine with it but they should nerf it atleast in PvP/DZ scenarios since everyone you see at those places, uses that gun

and putting 3x shock resistance mods just not to be stunned, atleast having chance to avoid it, is well more than tough

Lurking behind any player just to kill him feels not right, wants to be equal battle where you can actually do something instead of not being able to move for 5 seconds while being shot by 4 man stacks.

Not trying to blame those people who uses Elmo’s since gun overall is one of top tier when it comes to being more than annoying, hopefully devs will take this to consideration.

[frozen meadow]

I think it needs a 10-15% handling nerf

Also I hate equal fights

Cuz then expertise is the leading factor

I always play unfairly, and the only people who get mad are those with everything at 23

[inland minnow]

By fair i meant not being shocked 5 seconds and actual shoot first or so on

[frozen meadow]

by not fair i mean backstab people who arent paying attention

[hybrid ore]

It should be noted that the DZ is actively meant to be a little dangerous, it's meant to be a place where people go to die.
You shouldn't go into the DZ if you're not at least a little on edge. That is the canonical purpose of it.

[inland minnow]

We’re not saying about being scared, i’m talking personally that Elmo’s current state at dz/pvp is too broky and needs a lil nerf.

Too difficult to give arguments at 02 am, rip.

[hybrid ore]

A lot of things in the DZ should be rebalanced it's true, but at the same time a little unfairness is almost expected.
was mainly talking about Eevee's comment about being unprepared though, that by itself is whatever, the balance is the important part.

[kind veldt]

Love or hate its the weird feeling of being on the edge that people like in DZ

[buoyant dove]

best build in dz ?

[cinder heart]

dark zone was better in div1

[buoyant dove]

it’s one of the only reason i play

[kind veldt]

Not my cup of tea and it goes againsty prefferences of playing oddball builds, so some people like it while its not my cup of tea

[wispy heron]

Depends on what you want if for, pve or pvp

For pve any general use build with memento will be okay

Strikers and memento wrecks

For pvp you can check the spreadsheet

[bold current]

folks, had a question

[low flame]

If you’re playin pve then you’ll do good with a pvp build

[bold current]

I've seen some things online about rebuilding the Castle Settlement

wanted to know what you guys knew about it

[low flame]

Enemies are challenging so you should be fine

[kind veldt]

Its the current season plot

[bold current]

ah

[kind veldt]

Rescue people and it upgrades castle

[bold current]

I like.

for the writing project I have for The Division, I was thinking of including it in some way

that, and have the JTF reinforcements that I've written down as part of my story have some of their guys be posted there for security

[sweet beacon]

Hi everyone question

[bold current]

wassup

is that a humvee

and UCP fatigues

[sweet beacon]

Just bought a ps5 controller for my pc but I can't figure out how to play division 2

[bold current]

have you tried linking the controls?

[wispy heron]

Connect it using Bluetooth