#td2-general-chat

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opal radish
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randon mission and solo legendary try

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helping clanmates

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that's it

bright shard
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Hey just getting back into game after a few year of not playing lookin for some chill people to kinda help reteach me the game and just to chill and have fun with

Pls DM me if u want to play

torpid plume
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Public execution+Propaganda in West Potomac is my preferred way, I avoid CPs and just let the activities keep respawning.

opal radish
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Potomac is xp centre for division

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also the circle near tidal basin

sturdy cape
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@bright shard welcome back, you might want to try #lfg-pc as this isn't the channel to squad up

opal radish
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around 4 hostage rescu 2 propaganda

torpid plume
opal radish
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if I were to start I will start at tidal basin activites 2 territory control than safe house restocking shit lincon memorial than go above like u said

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u can also start from American history doing the circle around the monument cp

oak prawn
torpid plume
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Yeah it's easy to remember the spawns down there

sturdy cape
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i like variety. different parts of the map, different activities, different missions. less repetition the better

opal radish
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i miss resistance tbh is quite fun

full zinc
broken plume
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Woke up this morning to a video of NGN throwing shade at Kamekaze over an exploit being addressed, it's gonna be a good day

copper shoal
inland spear
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Hey guys i have a question, did they remove cross-save currency? I wanted to start a new save after not playing the game for a while and I don't have any of the money from my other saves

sturdy cape
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credits are seperate per character, always have been afaik

acoustic sand
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not in Div1

full zinc
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Money doesnt transfer. Same with food, components, water

inland spear
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That means i've been playing too much td1 to remember

inland spear
acoustic sand
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Div 1 its shared

inland spear
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It was kinda like a primitive new game plus

sturdy cape
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we're not talking about div 1 tho

acoustic sand
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we know

inland spear
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yeah just wanted to make sure if this was in td2 or not

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thanks for letting me know though

fading dawn
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What's the easiest dz? Tbh I'm too under leveled for big combat encounters

stuck musk
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there is not easiest dz

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dz default difficulty is challenging iirc

real creek
sturdy cape
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invaded DZ is harder isn't it? maybe avoid that

stuck musk
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i think players are much more difficult than npc

sturdy cape
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sure, doesn't mean it's not a relevant difference tho

real creek
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If you just wanna farm dz landmarks and just chill it'll really depend on the server tho. Would be better to just try out a dz and move to another if you don't have fun where you're at.

acoustic sand
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just kill and dont extract that way you'll never have to worry about trusting others

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Tho not extracting is difficult if the game throws 3 exotics at you within an hour

opal radish
acoustic sand
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i had 3 pestilence thrown at me within an hour lol

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1 lost to some stupid rogue who camped every extraction

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out of the 3 one was max rolled too

finite hare
real creek
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Max. They always roll the same attributes.

finite hare
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What are the rolls?

real creek
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LMG DMG, DTTOOC, DTA. It's what every pest comes with.

acoustic sand
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⬆️

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was lucky to be able to extract that one

nocturne harbor
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Man, how is fragile armor still broken like this

pearl comet
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whats the fastest way to lvl up BP

real creek
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BP?

frozen holly
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For blueprints - farm cps lvl 3.

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Invaded missions are good for that too.

finite hare
acoustic sand
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too bad i don't know how to use it or what a good build for it is

nocturne harbor
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and I see TODO gear is still dropping

real creek
sick thicket
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hes told me about several times where someone sneaks up on him and tries to go rogue, and the tick damage just 1 shotted them lol

finite hare
sturdy cape
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pestilence's tick damage scales off all the damage to armour/TooC, health etc so stack lotsa that

acoustic sand
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what is TooC?

small spear
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damage to target out of cover

real creek
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Yeah most pest builds are just get as much weapon damage and DTA/DTTOOC. I just find it faster to put a good gun on and kill with that vs getting stacks and waiting for them to work.

heady forge
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Whats better, sell or deconstruct?

sturdy cape
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generally there's a lot more uses for resources than credits so i always deconstruct

real creek
sturdy cape
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also saves the step of hauling stuff to a vendor to sell

heady forge
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Ohhhh noted

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Thanks!

real creek
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Early game you are going back to the boo to turn in items for expertise tho. I typically dump inventory once I get 20 caches built up and my inventory is full. That way I can open caches and it'll drop items on the ground for me to sort thru and then pick up all as junk.

halcyon granite
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there's a lvl 52203 SHD in my countdown group

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some people obviously dodged the ban wave

timber hatch
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and some people are that high

real creek
fallow idol
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I seen a 136k SHD the other day

real creek
fallow idol
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That was with double xp in the beginning then doing heroics with all directives.

real creek
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I mean when resource conveys were high xp I could do about 20 SHD per hour and have put up like 120 levels a day but it's a grind.

halcyon granite
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that's wild

full zinc
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F10 was 60/hr.

lofty ruin
full zinc
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F10 you had to turn your brain off. Real burn out type of grind

real creek
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I mean it's 40ish SHD per day, which is doable but if you look at their hours and they have like 8k hours I mean meh have it bro.

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If they got like 500 hours it's obvious.

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Man imagine having all those salvage points tho.

torpid plume
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They probably did Faye Lau before the warning

full zinc
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F10 you could hit pretty high shd. No lifing it

real creek
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There have been so many xp glitchs over the years tho.

torpid plume
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There have been a lot in the past just nothing as serious as this one

full zinc
torpid plume
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I seen someone on Twitter saying they got a few hundred levels from the descent exploit and still got banned.

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So there's no way someone who got 100k from it would avoid a ban

real creek
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Feel like a modern day billionare. All this wealth you'd just sit on.

full zinc
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Every thing is logged somewhere. Just a matter of pulling the data

spark tendon
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Is ubisoft down?

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I keep gettin "failed to sync achievements" for some reason.

full zinc
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Not that I'm aware of

real creek
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Yeah they just pulled files and probably looked at time played vs xp gained and if you went over an obvious threshold you got rolled back and banned.

acoustic sand
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very happy that i don't have friends that play this game and do the decent exploit with

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done decent once and got my ass handed to me by nemesis

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which somehow spawned 4 times

real creek
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lol I saw that in the patch notes.

halcyon granite
real creek
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I also saw the fixed rogues in heroic dropping purple loot but I think it's worse. I feel like I get a purple from half or more of them.

acoustic sand
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it wasn't all 4 started rushing

rough sleet
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what? don't like fighting the undead?

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you gotta axe off the head like a hunter \o/

acoustic sand
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is rouges some sort of inside joke in the community? I see so many people type in Rouges instead of rogues lol

nocturne harbor
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No, thats just illiteracy

rough sleet
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people are idiots is all, lol

acoustic sand
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oh lmao

nocturne harbor
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Like everyones new fav game mode: Decent

rough sleet
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XD

acoustic sand
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true

acoustic sand
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i don't like typing on a small surface keyboard

rough sleet
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just like memento is momento to a tons of folks....

acoustic sand
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i make so many mistakes on my work laptop lmao

real creek
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I'm using a poopy membrane keyboard thats in a metal shop...

acoustic sand
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gross

rough sleet
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lol, nothing kills electronics faster than that fine ass metal dust

real creek
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lol I clean it but still metal will get everywhere.

rough sleet
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metal dust, so fine that if you gently place a penny at the top of a 50gallon drum full of it, it'll sink right to the bottom. HAHAHA

real creek
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So the fine metal dust that's on me comes off a tiny bit when I get into my car and after a couple weeks you can see it all over because I have black/leather interior and man do I hate it.

tawdry bramble
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okay SO striker gear pieces with the chameleon and good times is…solid

kind veldt
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Common typo

pearl comet
real creek
pearl comet
cold gull
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The game is not possible to play after the new patch very frequent drops in fps

torpid plume
acoustic sand
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😄

tawdry bramble
# knotty quail Can be better

yeah so I did two versions of this build; those guns under survivalist with mostly red core and blue minor gear, and then a second one with striker pieces because that seemed to be the best pairing according to other people, but I’m tryna get this used for pvp in dz mainline

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so, like, in pve I’ve got some better loadouts anyway

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I have an ar and sniper build and am torn between using manic (highest damage output but I don’t like it) or glory daze or invisible hand

opal radish
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highest damage ar is famas with optimist change my mind💀

real creek
opal radish
small spear
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nah i think the context is pvp

opal radish
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firing and pausing in between

real creek
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Yeah pvp that's correct.

small spear
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with pvp you do have more reason to run optimist over strained

torpid plume
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Yeah I'd run optimist on my famas but there's nothing in the DZ to be optimistic about

small spear
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TRUE

torpid plume
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Went there last night and as soon as I went out the door a shot flew past my head from God knows where so I guessed it was someone camping down the street with a nemesis and said f this I'm going back to PvE 🤣

opal radish
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😂 😂

kind veldt
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God i wish the FAL was better

opal radish
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i played pvp in div1 my god people shooting through cover man like wtf i don't wan to play it i am going to pve

torpid plume
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That person probably has cramp in their fingers from holding the fire button down and waiting for people to come through the door

tawdry bramble
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so should I just craft a FAMAS in div 2 or loot it somewhere? it’s literally the one gun I haven’t found at all yet since getting the game again

opal radish
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countdown ar loot pool

tawdry bramble
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oh god I definitely haven’t tried countdown yet

kind veldt
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Yeah best way to farm specific things probably

tawdry bramble
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it’s an 8 player mode but also it isn’t a raid??? like a homie is scared

acoustic sand
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what would you be looking for on the famas optimist and what other things?

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i wanna try out pvp but have no idea what to build for pvp lol

kind veldt
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Nah its easy, just stick to the group

opal radish
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no mic required

tawdry bramble
sick thicket
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countdown is a vibe

tawdry bramble
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idk what I’d do with a famas, maybe just use it for my default loudout with the ar and sniper

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I had a mk16 for a while that was killer but, again, I wanted to use a named weapon and that’s kinda all I’m using rn

hollow obsidian
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Yeah it’s a really easy mode. Just stick to the group and try to help with what you can! Whether it be killing enemies or doing objectives.

haughty siren
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Good morning/evening to all. Questions, I'm trying to finish my gunner field & my last thing is to break the guys armor off before I kill him. He dies very easy on normal tho. Should be on a harder difficulty & use weaker weapons?

hollow obsidian
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Just take your time and be very careful with your shots

tawdry bramble
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yeah I like using pistol on normal because it’ll honestly get them quick without having to commit to using your actual ammo all that much

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fun lil challenge ya know

sturdy cape
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the oxidiser clouds from the chem launcher hit all armour pieces at once, works well for that task

real creek
haughty siren
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Thanks for the info. Will try now.

opal radish
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also make sure he is tanky and shoot armor only so he doesn't die

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a wrong bullet in Normal and he may die

haughty siren
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@opal radish trust me, I know. Shit is annoying.

polar palm
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Any tips for a player that doesn't have a build or good stuff to lvl up in this game?

tender wave
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Get a build together

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Gearset builds are not hard to farm, even unoptimized they'll help a lot

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Run challenging countdown for easy gear farming

opal radish
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eclipse best freind for new players

polar palm
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The drop rate for the gear i want is so bad. I just don't have any luck in farming stuff in dv2

opal radish
hollow obsidian
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You can also earn credits to buy named or exotic caches too

opal radish
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countdown is a boon before it it was difficult to get stuff you want

polar palm
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Ok but what is countdown

hollow obsidian
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First of all do you have the dlc warlords of New York?

polar palm
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Nah

hollow obsidian
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Because without it, you can’t do countdown or summit. Or any of the extra endgame content or seasons

polar palm
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I can do summit

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Ok nvmnd i have that dlc

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Just didn't know it lol

hollow obsidian
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Oh okay gotcha. Yeah countdown is real easy basically. It’s an 8 player mode where you do 2 Objectives and a main objective all within 15 minutes. Just stick to the group and help out wherever you can. Whether it be kills or doing the objectives.

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But basically you can set what kind of loot you want to get. So in that mode, grab everything you can get (you’ll get a lot) and then see what to use or stash back at the White House.

polar palm
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Im looking in game for a group for countdown which difficulty is should i search for

hollow obsidian
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Challenging.

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Not alot of people do normal or hard. You can try those, but challenging is where majority of people go to.

polar palm
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And heroic

hollow obsidian
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Honestly not even worth it. Unless you have really really good gear for it

polar palm
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Ok thx

silk roost
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trying to get my grind on but on my 2nd crash already 😩

polar palm
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Im lvl7 does it take long to get lvl 90 for the exotic weapon?

opal radish
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honestly not with average you can get in a week

tawdry bramble
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AH IM TRYNA DO COUNTDOWN AND GOT KICKED WELPPED

hollow obsidian
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What level are you?

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Also what’s your build?

tawdry bramble
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35 shd and I’m using using a pve build hold up

kind veldt
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Matchmake for challenging and not heroic in countdown

opal radish
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heroic gonna kick

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rarely anyone carries if the build is not good

lone fern
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Does anyone know if the warlords of new York expansion comes with the ps plus version?

hollow obsidian
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No it doesn’t

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It costed me $10 for the dlc

haughty siren
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I hate this shit. Almost had it.

hollow obsidian
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What were you using?

haughty siren
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The pistol

frozen meadow
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whats happening

late finch
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When will the St Elmo be in the in the loot pool? After then end of the current season?

hollow obsidian
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They were trying to do that task where you destroy all the armor pieces and then kill the boss.

elfin hazel
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this will be an interesting maintenance night

timber hatch
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I'm excited

opal radish
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yup will keep 🍿 🍿 ready just in case

elfin hazel
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I'm dreading it but it sounds interesting so who knows

timber hatch
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Tomorrow will be a great day to not be a mod

full zinc
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What did I miss

elfin hazel
frozen meadow
opal radish
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wish they reales the count of players

halcyon granite
elfin hazel
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servers goin down on a thursday to rollback

halcyon granite
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how wrong was i

hollow obsidian
halcyon granite
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🐦

opal radish
frozen meadow
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challenging sucks imo

halcyon granite
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what's even the difference ?

frozen meadow
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and people blow heroic's difficulty way out of proportion

full zinc
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Oh ok. More of the same whining incoming 🍿 🍿

halcyon granite
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2% more chance to drop exotic ?

frozen meadow
opal radish
elfin hazel
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isnt it just more health/damage + more countdown money

frozen meadow
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pretty much

opal radish
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better in every aspect

frozen meadow
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aspect isnt online

timber hatch
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Most go with challenging countdown because it's easy enough to complete with randoms. High level players can just optimize rolls so they don't need max roll drops, and low level players generally aren't gear up enough to complete heroic

hollow obsidian
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^

frozen meadow
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arent geared up enough

more like dont know how to gear up in the first place

opal radish
timber hatch
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Well there's also a large number of high level players that applies to as well lol

opal radish
frozen meadow
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flashback to the person last night who kept complaining about getting kicked while running picaros+contractors+ninja bag+pestilence

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and blaming me calling him out for that on my pfp for some reason

opal radish
frozen meadow
opal radish
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nver got kicked

frozen meadow
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wasnt talkin about u

opal radish
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why tag me than lmao😂

frozen meadow
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it was in reply

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adding onto what you said

opal radish
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omkk

plush otter
late finch
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Kinda figured that

noble lark
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why after the update is my FPS so bad

tawdry bramble
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ok so countdown was fun

tawdry bramble
frozen meadow
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@opal radish are you gaming off a fuckin floppy disk your load times are so slow

real creek
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Raucey carry me pls

rotund musk
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i got question @frozen meadow r u mod or is it ur full time job to chat in in discord ?

frozen meadow
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lol

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this community is chill so i stick with it

real creek
tawdry bramble
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so guy needed healing and I tried to heal him but I accidentally called extraction too early in countdown :,((

real creek
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Yeah happens a lot.

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You think you are doing the revive but someone else is and pew there go the flare.

acoustic plume
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stuff happens

rich heart
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Double clicks when map is open
Game crashes.
Have to wait 5-8 minutes for game to boot up again because it takes twice as long to boot up after update.
"Triple A studio"

worn rover
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Does descent and countdown still not give event keys? Is any other activity bugged?

fiery cloud
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Hey gogamer, Local, Eevee, .drib, Raucey, iKia, Souless

nocturne harbor
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What about everyone else?👀

opal radish
fiery cloud
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lol

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@nocturne harbor just saw you goon have to wait

barren elbow
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'To roll back illegitimate players' progression associated with the Descent XP '

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Roll back to lv 1 or back ss5 ??

nocturne harbor
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Back to the trash can where they came from...hopefully =]

barren elbow
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LOL if back SHD 1 so fun :>>

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lost all item :>>

rough sleet
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"causing all account progress through the exploit to be reset"

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so assuming levels, gear, etc. so assuming they'll just drop an old backup of the characters from before the exploit/descent and say "have a nice day" lol.

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plus the bonus of missing out on the apparel event \o/ (not that the players who exploited probably care about apparel)

barren tiger
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what's the best way to get the disrupted status on hyenas?

barren tiger
full zinc
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What's good Saph div2wave

fiery cloud
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getting ready for work

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Had yesterday off

fallow idol
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Downtime of an estimated 3 hours tomorrow to roll back “cheaters” petter

I wonder what they’ll break in the process…

fallow idol
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I wonder why they need to take the servers offline to simply change people’s XP tho… like can’t they do that at anytime?

full zinc
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Should be a quick maintenance tbh

worn rover
fallow idol
full zinc
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I work nights so maintenance days are good entertainment for me

elfin hazel
rough sleet
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I would say tomorrow would be entertaining but all those effected are either temp or perma banned so....guess wont really see the fun parts until like, 2 weeks from now....

barren tiger
full zinc
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I'm here every day

rough sleet
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local lives here, he never leaves

nimble fox
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I was trapped, hopped on Div 1 and it’s awesome

full zinc
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No and never sleep either apparently 🤣

opal radish
rough sleet
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sleep is for the weak anyways

barren tiger
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Do you know what ubi should do just to troll those who will get banned...ban them WHILE they are playing 😆

barren tiger
nimble fox
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The builds are more in-depth. I was getting carried through legendaries but now I finally have a couple good builds. There are a lot of people still playing.

opal radish
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yup all the banwave go to div1

worn rover
nimble fox
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I hope not

barren tiger
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I jsut think it would be funny and massive could see in real time how many players go "offline"

full zinc
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Nah, it's mostly temp bans I imagine

barren tiger
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oh yeah i watched that video and loved it

full zinc
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Time to grind some levels. Only 10/34 atm

rough sleet
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still better than myself, I only earned like 6 total? just going slow at it

full zinc
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Yeah we got a few weeks tho. Ezpz

rough sleet
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oh yeah, not as bad as people were expecting after the xp changes....no gloom and doom

hasty lance
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How are you grinding?

full zinc
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Yeah it's been decent. Lots of backup calls with ppl that are running cp and stuff in between 👍

runic kernel
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Public executions, control points, and territory control

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I no lifed it yesterday

full zinc
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League stuff as well

full zinc
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Really easy to 60/60 that in 1 week

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Usually like 3 or 4 directives.

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I matchmake a lot so it's kinda just random

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Fog,fragile, and ragers pretty easy to deal with. If dps cool skills also easy

drowsy turtle
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Yo why is artificer hive so useless

haughty siren
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Finally got it. There was a spot you could just stand there & he can't come hit you.

lone valve
frozen meadow
lone valve
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The video

frozen meadow
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what about it

rancid island
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So servers are going down tomorrow again?

lone valve
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To apply the rollbacks yea

warped knoll
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Is there a consistent xp farm?

lone valve
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Open world activities heroic 5 directives

frozen meadow
oak prawn
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Just do everything in west Potomac and start of east mall rinse ans repeat

lone valve
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Don't clear the CPs and activities will just respawn basically

frozen meadow
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i think hes expecting "sit in front of a door and kill everything that comes out"

lone valve
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Last time that happened the servers were dying

frozen meadow
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lmao

real creek
frozen meadow
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i mean infinitely

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or f10-tier

lone valve
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Yea but Atleast that makes you move around from activity to activity

frozen meadow
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thats what im saying

oak prawn
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They make you excirse

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Gotta get those steps in

warped knoll
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Was thinking highest xp activity but alright

lone valve
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Public executions

frozen meadow
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theres not supposed to, or intentionally going to be, any farming activity as efficient or even anywhere near as efficient as f10

silk roost
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just crashed by shooting a black tusk robot (not hound), anyone else?

oak prawn
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The robot got the last laugh

silk roost
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double clicking map has the higher score

agile kettle
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Can’t season pass holders get 3extra apparel event keys on this season?

lone valve
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Yea

scenic cove
lone valve
frozen meadow
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ah

agile kettle
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Really… I got nothing.

frozen meadow
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the more you know lol

frozen meadow
oak prawn
frozen meadow
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lol

nocturne harbor
lone valve
nocturne harbor
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As he should

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As NGN did

lone valve
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Yea ngn just said fuck it and went all in

nocturne harbor
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ping me in like 14mins and Ill show you something

frozen meadow
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i find it funny all these ytbers are complaining

scenic cove
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I don’t follow div2 youtuber drama. I sometimes watch some questionable build videos. Or see every youtuber cover the same build like with elmo.

lone valve
agile kettle
frozen meadow
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@opal radish i got a reconstructed cache lmfao

small spear
frozen meadow
opal radish
opal radish
small spear
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but i do watch speedrunners a lot yes

opal radish
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i am talking about me medkit clan and hutchler nothing else for yt div2💀

frozen meadow
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lets see what BP i got

dull ginkgo
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Hi Agents

frozen meadow
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any guesses?

opal radish
frozen meadow
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so LE

opal radish
small spear
frozen meadow
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liquid engineer, perfect bloodsucker

opal radish
frozen meadow
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OMG IT IS A BACKPACK

opal radish
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said bloodsucker

frozen meadow
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you could totally be right lmfao

lone valve
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Devil's due

frozen meadow
opal radish
frozen meadow
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i havent checked yet lmao

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it could be any named backpack

lone valve
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My guess is devil's due

opal radish
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check it i am dying of boredoot

frozen meadow
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ok

frozen meadow
opal radish
lone valve
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Time to run perfect clutch

frozen meadow
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my first dz exclusive bp

opal radish
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already have one god rolled

frozen meadow
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now i can safely remove my three devils due from my stash

opal radish
opal radish
frozen meadow
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kirra i think got liquid engineer, dz exclusive

opal radish
frozen meadow
#

and ive heard of gift and dark winter also getting dropped

opal radish
#

nice

lone valve
#

Next up is the gift
One of the worst perfect talents compared to the regular

opal radish
#

i dropped dark winter from previous season. boss

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in lz

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and no not kidding

lone valve
#

Yes manhunt targets can drop dz exclusives

opal radish
#

@frozen meadow will try next week with you another run

frozen meadow
#

im gonna keep doing them cuz i need those bps

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im only 383/414

opal radish
#

i qm at

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363/414

lone valve
#

Check ur crafting table and see which category in weapons and gear ur missing the most BPs

frozen meadow
dull ginkgo
#

Game crash before I even see a loading screen.... How nice lol

frozen meadow
#

wait that doesnt add up what the fuck

opal radish
frozen meadow
#

id be missing 4 wtf

silk roost
#

fragile armor broken again but if I go changing anything in global settings the whole pause UI breaks until I restart 😆

lone valve
#

My crafting table is 350/414

frozen meadow
#

lets see

kind veldt
#

do you have all exotics or are missing any?

opal radish
#

since that is pay to get

kind veldt
#

friend refferal LMG?

frozen meadow
#

3 ARs, 4 LMGs, 2 SMGs, 1 shotgun, 3 rifles, 3 MMRs, 2 pistols

opal radish
#

is that an exo?

oak prawn
#

Dose anyone even use lullaby

kind veldt
#

no but it's a blueprint

opal radish
frozen meadow
#

what am i missing

kind veldt
#

i remember that firestarter project gave an AR blueprint

frozen meadow
#

ive done all of that

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it was savage wolverine

opal radish
#

sleipner

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ammo dump

oak prawn
#

I'm missing 3 exos ridgeway savage and dodge city

opal radish
#

motherly love

opal radish
frozen meadow
#

what exo is savage

oak prawn
#

I can't be bothered to do ridgeway

frozen meadow
#

theres no exotic with savage in the name

opal radish
oak prawn
cunning hatch
#

Hey is countdown still a dice roll on being bugged?

opal radish
#

you can ask me i can drop it for you

covert owl
#

tomorrow will be mainteance of those To roll back illegitimate players' progression associated with the Descent XP exploit to the players who cause it we need to prepare for tomorrow im still afraid what happens

opal radish
#

wanna try?

oak prawn
opal radish
#

2 chances

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for u

oak prawn
#

We doing summit or cd

frozen meadow
#

the people who exploited are already banned lol

scenic cove
oak prawn
opal radish
#

well 2 exotic projects

#

on 2 characters

#

😂 😂

oak prawn
#

Whis characters we using

opal radish
#

join me than we can try

oak prawn
#

Let me load up the game

covert owl
frozen meadow
#

that doesnt clear up anything lmao

covert owl
covert owl
lofty ruin
#

will those who evaded the ban get rolled back tomorrow?

frozen meadow
#

Ask the devs

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We don't know this lmao

lofty ruin
#

let me activate my SHD watch and send them a message

lone valve
#

Just ping them here that'd go well me thinks petter

lofty ruin
opal radish
#

😂 😂

oak prawn
#

where ya go go

opal radish
#

cant clear countdown with trash build

#

switched to main character now

#

what do you need

oak prawn
#

build wise or the exos?

opal radish
#

exos

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buuld u can farm

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or just any thing

#

bored as fuck

oak prawn
#

ridgeways is the main 1 i want ill do the nem project eventually

opal radish
#

ok than chest it is

oak prawn
#

wont let me inv you to CD

opal radish
#

i see why delta 03 💀

oak prawn
#

you got delta 3ed?

opal radish
#

yup

#

2 tines today

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once with eevee

dull ginkgo
#

When the LFG channel is dead and nobody responds to the messages lol.... All I wanted was to run Descent with someone, but alas my night ends with nothingness.... In other news, I got a message about some gift from Ubi and when I checked my mailbox / stash, there was nothing :/ what kind

opaque lion
#

I finished alot of Countdown today, it was interesting. Completed some sets i want

oak prawn
#

standard apperal keys 20 of em

opaque lion
#

Is the Hunter outfit there obtainable in some way? I kinda like it

dull ginkgo
opaque lion
#

Not the usual one ik that.

oak prawn
#

there is a yellow version

opaque lion
#

The ones in countdown looks different

frozen meadow
#

There's the stinger outfit

opal radish
oak prawn
#

you cant get the outfiits the hunters wear in CD

opaque lion
#

Oof bummer

dull ginkgo
#

@frozen meadow You done running Descent for the night?

frozen meadow
#

Yeah

#

I have to go to work soon

opal radish
oak prawn
dull ginkgo
opaque lion
#

Got those too, for the backpack attachment

oak prawn
opal radish
#

wow

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nice ubi feature

#

private group 👀

#

why you left lmao

oak prawn
#

my shift key is brokwn i hate ubi sometimes

opal radish
#

another delta for ne

#

3rd one today and in 3 hrs

oak prawn
#

the game hates you

opal radish
#

one more and fuck this shit

oak prawn
opal radish
#

😂 😂

oak prawn
#

burh i accepted the inv i swear im getting iffed off

opal radish
#

yeah me too

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change your privacy settings to friends and clan

#

so i can join

dull ginkgo
#

Just started a run

wanton cargo
wanton cargo
#

or was that intentional

oak prawn
opal radish
#

summit last try?

oak prawn
#

i just closed the game 😦

opal radish
#

np

oak prawn
#

we will try again another day

vague flicker
#

assault rifle and subrifle on the? dz it's show time

mint star
#

Hey y a des gens qui parle francais ?

lone fern
#

Is it easier to get to level 30 in td2 or 1?

lone fern
full zinc
#

td2.. you can boost to 30 and skipp entire first portion of the game

opal radish
#

no shortcut have to grind

#

shorter than div2 without the skip

lone fern
#

If I boost am I still allowed to do all these main quests because if not I'd rather not

opal radish
lone fern
#

Ah okay I might end up doing that then
Will I get weapons from the level skip to help the transition or nah?

fair lake
lone fern
#

I wouldn't mind skipping the side quests and whatnot but I don't want to skip main quests or levelling BoO or any of these other headquarters

opal radish
opal radish
polar palm
#

Can anyone maybe drop me the catharsis mask? I just don't get lucky by farming it

timber hatch
#

Someone would have to get it to drop while playing in your group to be able to share it with you

polar palm
#

Well that sucks but thx for the information

opal radish
polar palm
#

Im playing for hours and got shit

opal radish
#

buy the exotic cache

#

also have you selected targeted lot as mask?

polar palm
#

If someone other want any item they get it first or second try i don't get it after 1000 times countdown

opal radish
polar palm
#

Yes

thorny sluice
#

how do you go about reporting 2 cheaters? i havent been able to play the game for 2 days cause whenever i load in i try to do dark zone and they always show up and kill me through the map

#

they are both level 19 and whenever they down me they come to me and start soundboarding the n word in voip

opal radish
thorny sluice
opal radish
#

good luck

lofty ruin
tropic compass
#

😮 will i get rolled back tomorrow

thorny sluice
#

yea i kinda figured they wont do shit about it but if yall are on and you see Clint_5739 and TheseHoesSlizz they are cheating and racist so

#

have a good day everyone

fair lake
worn rover
#

I just hope the maintenance fixes certain game modes not dropping event keys.

opal radish
idle glacier
#

is the chameleon any good

lofty ruin
tropic compass
fair lake
fair lake
idle glacier
lofty ruin
copper shoal
opal radish
tender wave
#

If you got a temp ban then a rollback is almost certainly incoming, if you didn't then maybe they missed you?

lofty ruin
opal radish
tender wave
#

I don't care enough to bet

opal radish
lofty ruin
#

I will give you my weekly SHD exotic drop

tender wave
#

Cba, sorry

lofty ruin
#

Then we will see the results tomorrow 😄

tropic compass
#

💀 at least it ain't account deletions

rough sleet
#

that'd be kinda funny tho, ngl

lofty ruin
#

why nobody wanna bet with me 😢

opal radish
rough sleet
#

nobody cares enough one way or the other shrug lol

full zinc
copper shoal
scenic cove
#

You think they’re going to 🪓 anyone they might have missed yesterday? I didn’t see any mention of multiple waves, and apparently anyone banned to be rolled back got e-mails.

brave tartan
#

This isn't related to the division but i just started FC6 and holy crap do the guerilla's make it impossible to do stealth

#

Out on an island sneaking around and up comes momo on a jet ski and just opens fire

tame barn
dense shore
#

Today is the day I will be dealing with 6 days a week of work, 10 hours night shift from 8pm to 6am. For the next 3 weeks, so RIP my sleep schedule. Wish me luck and I'll see y'all when I'm not a zombie 🫡

scenic cove
#

That’s what I mean, save the 🍿 for two weeks when the temp bans get lifted and they feel the effects of the rollback.

fallow geyser
#

delta 3 fix when⁉️⁉️⁉️

cinder cloud
#

i love it how the other youtubers are just pouncing on KVD and his buddy now for his pro cheating stance lol

#

about time

broken solstice
#

Tryna act like we werent warned about abusing xp exploits like 3 times

cinder cloud
#

the guy constantly did exploits in his videos that would've gotten a smaller person banned

broken solstice
#

i was telling ppl that the descent thing was gonna result in bans and rollbacks and ppl were like. what are you talking about? theres no wayyy theyre gonna do rollbacks

cinder cloud
#

kvd doesn't realize he's the problem

#

he should've been banned a long time ago

bitter wraith
#

Is elmos still broken in pvp?

worn rover
#

Remember to make that haz pro loadout.

bitter wraith
#

Lol guess I won't be in dz again for a while

bitter wraith
rugged marsh
sturdy sleet
# rugged marsh Why?

He explains exploits in full detail like he’s doing some service for the people and then blames the devs for making him look like a schmuck.

fallow geyser
#

Playing this game is like playing pokemon

#

with the consistent errors, you gotta catch em all.

rugged marsh
#

Oh so he deserves to be banned because he explained how to do it, but didn’t do it and he deserves a ban is that right?

cinder cloud
#

repeat offenders were banned for the faye exploit, kvd participated in that, but for some reason if a big youtuber does it, they end up skirting the ban or do get banned... complain on twitter and get unbanned

#

everyone should be held to the same standard

#

not sure why you think there should be exceptions here....

rough sleet
#

did you get banned?

#

then yes

full zinc
#

Obviously not one for you 🤣

cinder cloud
#

lol

bitter wraith
rough sleet
#

lol, ya done f*ked around, and ur about to find out. hahaha

bitter wraith
#

I wouldn't recommend this game then because it is a HELL of a grind

full zinc
#

Then no issue

bitter wraith
#

lmao fr

cinder cloud
bitter wraith
#

Haha

rugged marsh
#

I found out about the Faye lau glitch from another YTer and if he did it he’s awfully bad at it with only 4k+ shd lvl.

cinder cloud
#

wut

full zinc
#

So everyone else that actually ground out our game and builds should take a backseat so some dipsht like you can skirt the system?

#

Sorry not sorry. div2wave

bitter wraith
#

Plus pvp got destroyed by St elmos anyway so it isn't even particularly worth it anymore

dreamy skiff
cinder cloud
full zinc
bitter wraith
#

You also forgot the expertise system, many of which was maxed.out by people who were doing it the not so legit way

#

Trying to find a game on my PC and I think it somehow got deleted despite my PC saying its right there

dreamy skiff
#

HAHA I though I may have gone too far... but then I saw DOD's video!

tame harbor
#

Is there anyone willing to help me on ps5? I just came from pc and would like to get my regulus back from the raid. I only have a dps build started atm not super built yet. 🤠🤣

dreamy skiff
#

Nice try kid, already done that for the day.

bitter wraith
#

I honestly nearly gave up on pvp because of expertise but then I decided to fight fire with fire and do a few WONYs to even the playing field

#

The people who I ask about division 2 say they hated it, one played it and got bored of it and the other only plays it when I do

surreal orbit
#

You mean glitch abuser friendly….

cinder cloud
#

@visual lotus no one was holding a gun to your head, you did this nonsense on your own freewill,. stop lashing out, take responsibility and move on

vague flicker
#

can the exclusive dz exotic's drop from supply drops?

dreamy skiff
#

You're already crying

cinder cloud
#

@visual lotus there's always fortnite

woven axle
#

All this time amir9129 is running his mouth he could be grinding

cinder cloud
#

i had 2 at the time when i did the turret glitch, got rolled back and didn't cry about it

woven axle
#

Good one kid

full zinc
rough sleet
#

truth, more than a handful of players always willing to help new people grind out levels/gear.

woven axle
#

Kinda glad he is banned TBH

bitter wraith
#

Don't play on pc

#

Pc is trash for online games

surreal orbit
#

Yawn, get a tissue

bitter wraith
#

lmao

surreal orbit
#

Time to block the whiner….

full zinc
#

At this point I think hes just trying to get attention... anything good going on?

bitter wraith
#

🍿 anyone?

full zinc
#

Yes please

rough sleet
#

please share

cinder cloud
#

pass that shit

bitter wraith
#

Ahaha...I love this server....

woven axle
#

Well I'd love to stay here and be victim to Amir's amazing insults, but I'm going to go PLAY my game. Maybe you can be a good little boy and clean your room or something

bitter wraith
#

And here's me who instead of playing on my ps5 is waiting for a 2GB update that's been going for 20 minutes

rough sleet
#

oof

surreal orbit
#

And like whining here is gonna change anything…. gtfo

cinder cloud
#

@visual lotus how tf do you get banned before Amnesia 🤣

bitter wraith
#

💀

cinder cloud
#

some lunatic that just sits in the chat all day

#

on his 3rd acc

#

well heartland is coming, you know what's gonna happen if you do it again

#

we can't see those btw

bitter wraith
#

You aren't wrong about the company though

#

'Sorry for bad english' speaks perfect english

#

Update nearly done finallg

#

☠️ so true

frozen meadow
#

I don't crash

bitter wraith
#

Lucky

astral jacinth
#

What’s the current best way to grind for apparel? Looks like the exp boost won’t happen until next week

cinder cloud
astral jacinth
#

Hohoho ok

cinder cloud
#

once complete, reset the control points via map and do it again

worn rover
#

I'd really wish they would just fix descent and countdown.

cinder cloud
#

it's right outside castle

worn rover
#

Isn't the completion outfit the descent outfit?

cinder cloud
#

i haven't gone back into descent after they over tweaked it

slate lion
cinder cloud
astral jacinth
worn rover
astral jacinth
#

Oh

worn rover
#

Which really sucks.

astral jacinth
cinder cloud
astral jacinth
#

🤕

sturdy sleet
candid finch
#

Is it a known issue that no matter what I am always wearing the Sharpshooter vest and Survelist Backpack? Literally those two things overide anything I put on. Even if they aren't even equipped on the vest or backpack.

scenic cove
#

He also already said his final goodbyes…

rough sleet
#

don't go back on your word man, u uninstalled, stick to it, stick it to the man....lol

shrewd quail
#

NGN dogging on Kamikazsvondoom has me rolling

candid finch
shrewd quail
#

“A certain YouTuber who wears a dumb yellow rain jacket and talks at 25% of everyone else”

candid finch
#

Apparently there are a couple Mike Tysons running around then. lol

brave tartan
#

You've been in here for half the day whining about being banned, Are you sure you have a life?

worn rover
#

It's hilarious that the event gives the descent outfit at least the gloves and I can't even play the new game mode to get keys.

prime cosmos
#

When TD2 have scheduled maintenance on Thursday ? hope they don't put me into server this time.

acoustic plume
#

doesnt seem liek pestilence builds are really a thing? i might be going off old info

shrewd quail
#

Right

acoustic plume
#

hmm

shrewd quail
#

It’s mainly a tank build and relies on HB stacks and, Catharsis stacks and pest stacks

#

So you can take hits and dish out solid damage

#

Of course it’s mostly a solo build and you could make it red if you wanted it to be

acoustic plume
#

ive been building one that combos it w the vile mask and using pulse

#

but looking at TU18 stuff seems everyones crazy about strikers and famas lol

shrewd quail
#

I posted it

acoustic plume
#

thanks

shrewd quail
#

That’s a really good idea

torpid plume
#

Anyway I hope everyone is enjoying their time on Division 2

fluid meadow
#

I want a build that makes pvp players send hatemail

#

Already made with a regulus

#

Cancerous for sure

#

I am yet to make a pestilence build yet

#

That'll probably be it

#

Do talents like vigilance affect the pestilence stacks? In terms of damage

patent shadow
#

how do i get amusement park mission

frozen meadow
patent shadow
#

i only got the ballpark mission

frozen meadow
patent shadow
#

i did it and didn’t get the mission

frozen meadow
#

Did you do it on story

patent shadow
#

no

#

ty

shrewd valve
#

hey what’s the general idea when building a FI build?

sick thicket
astral meadow
#

does double companion still work?

noble lark
#

is nemesis in descent only solo?

clever blade
#

no

noble lark
#

does it start like any other Arena round

clever blade
#

nemesis will be the same number of whoever is in your party i believe

spice zinc
#

does anyone know how i can trigger the dirupt status effect on hyenas for the eva league event?

real creek
#

Shoot the bag on the rushers leg or use the gunner banshee pulse or HF kills up close.

#

Wait does it say disrupt or disorientate?

acoustic plume
#

disrupt which is the electric one

#

theres another goal for disorient

real creek
#

Oh just jammer pulse or emp sticky are ez

sturdy cape
#

the better solution imo is just doing 6 speed runs across the 2 weeks since they reset after week 1

real creek
#

Yeah but some people go away for work or have things that come up. I get why some want to get it all done in one week.

sturdy cape
#

well yeah, obviously

real creek
#

Regardless it should be super easy to disrupt and confuse all these people. Could just run HF and put a jammer on and just pop the jammer when it's up.

thick zephyr
#

Lol,why do rogues in the dz do this.
Saw this group of rogues draw other players to a corridor and just unleash seeker mines and artillery turret.....

#

All from the same clan

sturdy cape
#

what's wrong with that?

real creek
#

Weekly projects. They don't matter but to some they matter.

thick zephyr
#

Where is the fun in that....

real creek
#

Some people don't enjoy the way pvp is in this game. I personally don't but I don't really care about those projects.

shrewd valve
#

got acosta bag 4 times in a row

robust tinsel
#

that sounds like fun

shrewd valve
#

my luck is sh!t

robust tinsel
#

baiting your enemies into an ambush

real creek
robust tinsel
#

which is why it's still funny, watching people chase you, then they suddenly turn and kill the chasers

thick zephyr
#

It was fun though, multiple people chasing and still denied manhunt a few Times

thick zephyr
frozen meadow
#

I single handedly took down a 4-person manhunt with one boomy boi

real creek
#

O man what was the set that would launch an explosive when your armor broke?

#

I remember people baiting you into shooting them thinking it'd kill you.

thick zephyr
frozen meadow
robust tinsel
#

🧨

frozen meadow
frozen meadow
real creek
#

Oh I'm just recalling it. Was funny cause you could run demo and nothing would happen lol

frozen meadow
#

They got pissed off too

#

Then went rogue again and I KILLED THEM AGAIN SAME WAY

#

They left the server after getting pissed off

sturdy cape
#

and then everbody clapped

thick zephyr
frozen meadow
thick zephyr
frozen meadow
#

One of the upper right dz east spawns is where it took place

#

No

frozen meadow
sturdy cape
#

er, what?

frozen meadow
#

Normally when you say that it means someone's faking it

sturdy cape
#

👏

real creek
#

Well I for one stood up and clapped when I saw that. Just like when I type lol I actually laugh out loud.

#

College humor did a really good bit on the lol thing.

frozen meadow
#

But anyways yeah they literally got so pissed off

#

It's funny as hell when people get pissed off at dying to a zero expertise skill build

robust tinsel
#

🤣

sturdy cape
#

their frustration sounds understandable tbh

#

enjoying their frustration just sounds toxic

frozen meadow
robust tinsel
#

is it really toxic? 🤔

frozen meadow
#

It's not toxic cuz they are dead

#

Can't complain about what works

sturdy cape
#

wanting to win is understandable, wanting to upset people is just toxic

frozen meadow
#

I never said my goal was to upset people

#

My goal was to get rid of the manhunt lol

sturdy cape
#

no you just enjoyed it when it happened

#

same thing really

frozen meadow
#

I just wanted the manhunt gone lmao?

#

How is that toxic

thick zephyr
#

I was thinking of the gunner pulse with a hard wired build for the dz.
But then I think about pulse resistance,gave up on it

frozen meadow
#

Just do mortar

#

It hits like a truck

sturdy cape
#

the enjoying them getting upset part is toxic, it's not that complicated

robust tinsel
#

I'm confused how this is toxic to begin with?

frozen meadow
#

Cletus mate, I gotta be honest here, have you ever done dz before

#

Because this is LITERALLY EVERYONE IN DZ

#

Lmao

sturdy cape
#

toxicity is common therefor it's ok, good argument there

frozen meadow
#

I mean yeah

#

If everyone is insane then nobody is insane

Same logic

sturdy cape
#

🤦‍♂️

robust tinsel
#

I believe him making them frustrated was an unintended consequence/benefit?

frozen meadow
#

I legit just saw manhunt and then wanted it gone

robust tinsel
#

so how eevee being toxic in the first place?

frozen meadow
#

Glowy yellow icon

kind veldt
#

i think more that DZ is such a free for all that nobody there can complain about most stuff unless it's straight up cheating, if you decided to engage in PVP in this game you are already eating the bitter medicine

kind veldt
#

unless literal taunting and VC abuse was happening then it's just how DZ is

robust tinsel
#

manhunt, you literally just killed a rogue agent, done. you played the game as intended? If you gloat to them and antagonize them while killing them, that's toxic

frozen meadow
#

I ain't cheating nor using any overpowered exploits

kind veldt
#

and thats why i dont go there

frozen meadow
robust tinsel
#

that's why cletus seems to be missing the point 🤔

kind veldt
#

dont like the PVP, dont like that i could farm anything only to get mogged by not runnig a perfect meta PVP build and stuff

frozen meadow
#

And mortar is counter able, it's called explosive resistance lol

#

Hell I made a build to counter this build

kind veldt
#

so i dont got to DZ

sturdy cape
frozen meadow
#

Opinions can also be challenged

robust tinsel
#

No, your opinion doesn't make sense, you're calling eevee toxic when he wasn't toxic in the first place?

frozen meadow
#

She

robust tinsel
#

if killing someone in dz is toxic, then every person you come across who kills you must be toxic in your mind?

sturdy cape
kind veldt
#

huh guess thats a bad word

sturdy cape
#

you feel differently, most people in the DZ feel differently, i get that

robust tinsel
#

there is no enjoyment from eevee, she just killed 4 manhunt agents with a build

kind veldt
#

anyhow, DZ requires for someone to be a poopyhead in the first place to go rogue and want to ruin someone's else day

frozen meadow
robust tinsel
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🤣 i'm just trying to understand how cletus seems so triggered by just a small act of pvp

frozen meadow
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I didn't actively say anything to them cletus

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I didn't speak in chat nor voice

sturdy cape
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never said you did

frozen meadow
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I did nothing to trigger that

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I can find things funny without being toxic

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That's like saying everyone who goes to a comedy show is immediately awful people

real creek
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You do realize that what he is calling toxic is the fact that you enjoyed their displeasure right? He is justified in his opinion.

sturdy cape
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yeah i have no issue with the mortar, it's part of the game

robust tinsel
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isn't that the nature of a pvp situation? Where if you win, and the other team is frustrated, this is just a part of the culture itself?

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enjoyment of a situation is not toxic in of itself?

kind veldt
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i mean i'm sure people who are going rogue to kill others and get their stuff are not doing for the other person pleasure, in PVP competitiveness require someone to lose

sturdy cape
robust tinsel
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...

kind veldt
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doesnt mean people cant have a fun match

robust tinsel
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I think you're missing the point, you're calling him enjoying his win toxic.

real creek
sturdy cape
robust tinsel
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sorry, I keep getting mixed up while shepherding someone through wony from answer the call

frozen meadow
real creek
sturdy cape
robust tinsel
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doing some good deeds while helping someone right now

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and talking in this discord, lots of fun stuff

frozen meadow
sturdy cape
real creek
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I guess the question is can you see how enjoying someones frustrations can be seen as toxic? This situation aside?

frozen meadow
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The purpose of pvp is not explicitly combat. It's a video game. The purpose is enjoyment/entertainment

gilded perch
# thick zephyr I was thinking of the gunner pulse with a hard wired build for the dz. But then ...

Gunner pulse apply pulse and status effect at same time, it's work with hard wired, but it doesn't worth, compare with other status control build

The biggest benefit of gunner pulse is control enemy through wall and long range , that allows you do your job at safety position without any risk
But the shortcome of gunner pulse is you can't hit enemy if they stand upside or downside, also it doesn't work like foam of shock, gunner is soft cc but not hard cc, it not really deadly to the enemy you hit

frozen meadow
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Tell me I'm wrong lmao

real creek
robust tinsel
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that's what doesn't make sense

frozen meadow
robust tinsel
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if beating the opponent makes them frustrated, they got frustrated. in what world does this make eevee toxic?

sturdy cape
frozen meadow
sturdy cape
frozen meadow
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No I'm not?

thick zephyr
robust tinsel
gilded perch
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No eclipse in pvp, it shit, use high end

robust tinsel
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you say that the opponent getting frustrated ON THEIR OWN and eevee enjoying the frustration is toxic.

real creek
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Taking enjoyment out of someone having a bad time is toxic no matter how you look at it.

robust tinsel
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But if you do that, then you're also saying that Eevee shouldn't have killed those people

thick zephyr
real creek
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Like if you don't see that as toxic then I need to know what you all think toxic means.

thick zephyr
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Of high end

robust tinsel
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because if Eevee didn't kill those people, she's not toxic

robust tinsel
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You're making a big deal out of something

real creek
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What is this strawman time?

robust tinsel
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that's actually what you're trying to do

real creek
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You have made a big deal. You could have just said yeah I see how that's toxic and just been like okay.

robust tinsel
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No, he made a big deal calling eevee out on this. when she was just playing the game normally

gilded perch
frozen meadow
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I mean to be fair souless, you and Cletus completely ignored my argument about the game being more than just combat

real creek
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I get the relation to comedy shows tho. You go to dz to pvp.

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It's what you expect.

bold epoch
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I was just killed by this stranger, my tech started to get all frizzy and stuff

real creek
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I don't expect people to purposely take pleasure in my frustration or bad time tho.

gilded perch
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I am on official time so i miss something, what is going on right now?

frozen meadow
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I went to dz. I killed people in dz. They got mad. I found the mad funny. Toxic

Compared to

I went to comedy club. I listened to comedian. They made joke. I found joke funny. Toxic

robust tinsel
frozen meadow
frozen meadow
robust tinsel
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🤦‍♂️

thick zephyr
frozen meadow
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These people were farming players. I killed them. They were frustrated cuz they died after killing many people. Isn't that a little ironic too

hearty granite
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but the beauty of the DZ is it’s PvPvE

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dying and killing peoples just part of it

frozen meadow
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They had no reason to be frustrated to begin with

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Lmao

robust tinsel
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This is a slippery slope argument

bold epoch
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What’s going on?

frozen meadow
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Kill 10 people = fine
Die once = mean

frozen meadow