td2-general-chat

[hybrid ore]

You don't need to keep saying you disagree with me, you can just do it.

anyway, yeah div2 handles it very well. As someone who's put a lot of time into Des2, it could learn a thing or two.

[stuck sable]

No kidding. I wasn't going to mention the game by name, but I'm glad we're on the same page with it lol. Friend of mine did her weeklies, and ended up getting three rockets from her Prime Engrams. It's absurd. The idea of going to X world for Y loot is such a genius idea but such a subtle addition.

[hybrid ore]

I hope more studios steal the idea, plenty of MMO-likes could use it.

[stuck sable]

I hope they will, at least once they understand that the "real" game starts when we can start min-maxing and messing around with builds. Soon™️

[hybrid ore]

I guess we'll see what the new Story DLC at the end of Year 5 brings with it.

[mint wolf]

Is anyone else suffering with delta while playing descent ?

[shrewd quail]

Destiny 2 min-maxing is absurdly tedious

My GOD

It’s to the point to where it’s a literal chore

[hybrid ore]

I assume it's similar to how it was back at Shadowkeep?

[full zinc]

Is it against tos here to disagree respectfully with a mod about an opinion issue related to the game?

I think agents getting knowledge about how to maximize their time and get the most out of the same amount of grind is important.

Slowing agents down purposely isnt really a good practice. It wont keep the game pop higher, it just frustrates them.

But op asked how to get exo, I gave them some extra ways they didnt know.

[hybrid ore]

You'd think they would want people to stay invested. Oy.

[stuck sable]

Shadowkeep with extra steps.

[shrewd quail]

Yup

[hybrid ore]

Okay you need to tone down the melodrama. No one is saying that it's against the TOS or anything.

[shrewd quail]

Now should I maximize my time

I’m SHD level 218

Should I start min-maxing yet?

[full zinc]

Sure 4x everything with all agents made 💯

[shrewd quail]

Huh?

[hybrid ore]

They're being a troll, which is actually against the rules.
Just play the game and have fun.

[shrewd quail]

4x everything?

[stuck sable]

What I did, was collect everything I could with max rolls, and throw them into the calibration library. That way when you work on a build, you'll have stats maxed that you can pull from, from the calibration library.

[shrewd quail]

As in make 4 agents and do something 4 times?

Why would I do that?

[full zinc]

Not trolling it's legit.
All agents you have duplicate shd and exo projects

[shrewd quail]

Even if so, I just don’t really find it necessary

I don’t want 4 characters

[full zinc]

No you only run them through wony once each and then they stack from your main agent usage

That's understandable

[shrewd quail]

I have hardcore pistol only agent I’m working on too, I wonder how far I’ll get with that character

[hybrid ore]

It's entirely ridiculous to suggest doing that to someone who isn't even SHD 300 yet.
Just have fun, try stuff out, start to work on a build and enjoy the ride.

[torpid plume]

I delete my 3rd and 4th each week and run them through WONY, Great boost for us higher levels.

[shrewd quail]

This, I’m just enjoying the game. I have builds I’m working on but I’m just chilling

I love my agent dress up game with some PVE side content

[full zinc]

💯

[torpid plume]

Yeah don't get burned out, Apparel is my favorite thing about the game too lol.

[shrewd quail]

LOVE the apparel in this game

[hybrid ore]

If you want to make sure that your build is going in a good direction, the #td2-build-advice > 📌 > spreadsheet > builds tab are all tested out and proven to work.

[torpid plume]

My only wish is that they would give us the BTSU heavy outfit

[marsh crystal]

My only wish is they give us a crossover between a rogue and a hunter outfit

[shrewd quail]

Oh thank you!

[torpid plume]

That would be cool I love my rogue agent outfit but can't make a good hunter one

[shrewd quail]

No across the chest backpacks

Sad times

[marsh crystal]

Imagine giving us a tanky hunter outfit but with a rogue esque feeling

[long thorn]

imagine giving us scarves

[shrewd quail]

Any theories on who the hunters are?

[elfin hazel]

other members of homeland

[long thorn]

wheres NGN when we need him

[shrewd quail]

So like? A division within the division?

Maybe a secret 3rd wave?

[elfin hazel]

seperate entities

[shrewd quail]

NGNs video 4 years ago, the Part 2 of lost agents

[rugged remnant]

I’m new, any help on my first build? only watch level 50

[shrewd quail]

He uses a picture of Marines for one of the agents

And that picture was of my Infantry school company 💀

I recognized like half the people in the photo

That was great

[shrewd quail]

Sniper

[tulip ibex]

HB

[stuck sable]

A good, safe build could be a turret-drone build. Get gear that adds Skill Tiers, but also things like Skill Damage, Skill Haste or Skill Duration - preferably Skill Duration imo. That way you have more "hands on deck".

[shrewd quail]

😈😈😈🔥

[rugged remnant]

are still decks good starter builds?

[thorny talon]

Aww hell nah dont use this build

[stuck sable]

In the #td2-build-advice in pinned, there's a Google Docs for potential builds to start with

[shrewd quail]

Sniper builds are perfect starter builds

:))

[thorny talon]

Your beginner build should be dps

[rugged remnant]

Iv seen it but looks mad confusing lol

[tulip ibex]

Sniper builds are not perfect for anything

[thorny talon]

Sniper also good

True

But lets u know what is weakpoints

[hybrid ore]

Codename: macarena.

[tulip ibex]

"Sniper users" aren't real its just a thing people pretend to be

[stuck sable]

Cries in Mantis

[shrewd quail]

😨

[shrewd quail]

They’re perfect for headshots

Bro does NOT like snipers

[tulip ibex]

You don't either

[full zinc]

Especially with determined counting bodyshots as headshots after the first legit headshot 👍

[tulip ibex]

Nobody does

[elfin hazel]

I like snipers ☺

[shrewd quail]

I love snipers

They’re super fun

[elfin hazel]

they take my first and second loadout slots

[stuck sable]

RIP pre-fix Determined :(

[knotty quail]

It is back

[stuck musk]

its back

[tulip ibex]

Snipers are dumb and stupid and dumb and I don't like them

[stuck sable]

Seriously?

[full zinc]

It reverted to prenerf

[knotty quail]

Yes

[stuck musk]

i just speedrun thru control points now

[hybrid ore]

I like Snipers.
Aces is still my go-to loadout.

[stuck musk]

i use hotshot

[knotty quail]

ToTS is the way

[stuck musk]

heh

as long as u kill everything in one shot, it dont matter what sniper build

[knotty quail]

But now with Determined, Hotshot might be better

[full zinc]

Determined keeping hotshot proc on body shots as well

[knotty quail]

Don't need to be worrying about missing HH and having to reset with Tac50

[stuck sable]

Let me put Determined on my Nemesis, damnit

[stuck musk]

lol

[knotty quail]

Mantis bro

[shrewd quail]

What’s this nerf for determined stuff

[stuck musk]

i just use white death

[shrewd quail]

Mantis > white death

[stuck musk]

my nemesis is just a secondary now

[shrewd quail]

I run Aces

[full zinc]

White death determined is 😍

[stuck musk]

on g bruh

[shrewd quail]

Over hotshot or whatever it’s called

[knotty quail]

Aces is probably the weakest sniper set

[shrewd quail]

Wrong

[stuck musk]

everyone got their own preferences

[stuck sable]

You could set up a feedback loop with Determined if you get an initial headshot kill to proc Determined, and then continue getting one-shot headshots with the right build set up to maximize damage.

[tulip ibex]

Heart breaker 4p
at least 3/6 of your cores armor
other 3 damage
coyote mask/memento bag
ACS-12
AR with long rail so you can put on the pulse thingy
One of the armor companies buffs AR damage I forget which but get a gear piece from that too

[knotty quail]

Not that one, get Ceska for crit

[tulip ibex]

True

[hybrid ore]

All of the 4 major sniper setups (5 if you count Determined by itself) are good in their own ways.

[stuck sable]

In my opinion, it shouldn't have been nerfed because of the amount of investment required just to maximize damage, and it could keep up with some other DPS builds.

[knotty quail]

Fenris would be worse there

[shrewd quail]

I see people say that then pop 19m with white death

Talking about how good it is

[stuck musk]

i pop 27m

[shrewd quail]

That’s better

[stuck sable]

They weren't set up properly, methinks. I can get around 20-40mil depending on my circumstances.

[hybrid ore]

Once you pop, you can't stop.

[knotty quail]

What's the 4th? Aces, ToTS, Hotshot and what, HE?

[shrewd quail]

Very nice z

[shrewd quail]

What’s the build, I’m curious

[stuck musk]

i need to fix my hotshot build a bit, im using chainkiller and airaldi bp with vigilance

[full zinc]

I was hitting 25-30m with with white death determined in a ninjabike hh build. Woulda been even more with vig

[stuck musk]

but i think im missing some damage

[knotty quail]

That is optimal haha

[tulip ibex]

Snipers are for people who are afraid to get hurt ngl

[shrewd quail]

So what happens if they fix this determined thing or nerf it again

[full zinc]

Go back to nem or mantis

[knotty quail]

They gave up on fixing it, I think

[shrewd quail]

Snipers are for those who can hit their shots

[stuck musk]

feedback loop is gone then we gotta go hs->body->hs->body

[full zinc]

Might as well use it while we can

[tulip ibex]

Charging in and getting knocked and then having your team die trying to revive you is the best way to play

[knotty quail]

Plus who cares lmao its fun

[shrewd quail]

Me with 300k health in legendary solo

[stuck sable]

I use 4pc Hotshot, Chainkiller, 1pc Araldi, and that usually does it for me.

[stuck musk]

everyone has their own way of playing and we shouldnt judge

[stuck sable]

White Death with max rolls and of course, Determined.

[stuck musk]

ah so same as me

[shrewd quail]

Ah I see

[tulip ibex]

Try 1.2 mil armor 250k health

[shrewd quail]

Chainkiller named?

[stuck sable]

Mhm, it's a really sturdy build.

[knotty quail]

Tho actually, 2p Habsburg should technically be better

[stuck musk]

chainkiller is a named chest piece

[full zinc]

Yeah walker

[stuck musk]

perfect headhunter

[shrewd quail]

Your build is very similar to my aces

[knotty quail]

Since it's the same buff as Chainkiller and Airaldi but you get more HSD

[stuck sable]

I'll have to try that, squeeze out a bit of juice for damage.

[shrewd quail]

Except I don’t have the Airaldi, nor is my build optimized or all rolled headshot

[stuck musk]

imma try out hapsburg because i got a dude literally being a salesman for HG

[shrewd quail]

I got WORK to do

[knotty quail]

Blue core tho

So might be tough to farm

[shrewd quail]

I’ll probably have a load out for each Sniper set

[full zinc]

So hard to farm that piece.... real unicorn there.

[stuck musk]

i tried out aces n eights but i couldnt hit as hard as HS, i might have done something wrong though

[full zinc]

I'm looking for the habs chest

[stuck sable]

Honestly, just focus on enjoying the game, and then dabble little by little on builds you'd like to try out. As I'd mentioned a little while back, The DIvision is absolutely god-tier with loot farming and min-maxing, so your opportunities to try out builds are plentiful and you won't waste your time.

[marsh crystal]

Y'all should use umbra

[knotty quail]

Striker man

[stuck musk]

i will never not suggest striker

[tulip ibex]

Probably best to wait for chest+habs targeted loot

[marsh crystal]

Nah
Umbra
Y'all sleeping on it

[shrewd quail]

Oh for sure :)) and I’m only SHD 217 so I’ve got PLENTY of time

[knotty quail]

I tried it, it's clunky and less dmg haha

[lofty bone]

black tusk is easily the most annoying descent enemy

[stuck sable]

If Div 2 ever decides to cross-platform, I'd love to join you on runs, it'll be fun hah

[stuck musk]

no wonder u tryna argue for aces lol

[knotty quail]

Lmao

[stuck musk]

u havent try out enough builds yet for sure

[shrewd quail]

I’m surprised it’s not something they’ve added

[tulip ibex]

SW outlaws

[stuck musk]

to be honest i think cross platform would be good for the pve side

[shrewd quail]

I just like the flipping cards

[stuck musk]

i aint gon lie it is quite satisfying

[shrewd quail]

The sounds is real nice

[knotty quail]

Fair argument

[stuck sable]

Give me cross-platform for PVE and Raids. Div 2 is getting popular again and it would be nice to play with the console homies

[shrewd quail]

Whatever sniper build provides the best damage is what I eventually want to stick with

[knotty quail]

True true

[stuck sable]

Sorry, didn't mean to tag you there hah

[shrewd quail]

So is it hotshot? Should I make a hotshot build?

[knotty quail]

It's okay haha

[swift storm]

anyone farmed st elmo yet 😄

[stuck musk]

its good

[stuck musk]

got it a few days ago

[knotty quail]

I think ToTS still hits a bit harder then Hotshot

[slow steppe]

I run this build too. But I’ve hit my cap at 19mil. It’s not perfect, but it’s fun to use.

[swift storm]

😮 damn

[knotty quail]

But both are better then Aces

[shrewd quail]

Is ToTs good for legendary s?

[stuck musk]

i use hotshot and spedrun thru mission on heroic 5 directives, 990k xp ez

1 shot 1 kill

[knotty quail]

Lots of dmg and free Tac50 ammo so yes

[stuck sable]

I'm wondering why you aren't hitting more, in that case, you should be hitting harder. I don't have any proficiencies either which is bizarre

[slow steppe]

How y’all get the white death for it? It doesn’t seem to drop for me.

[marsh crystal]

PvE build or PvP

[stuck musk]

target sniper rifles in countdown

[marsh crystal]

Snipers targeted loot

[knotty quail]

I don't do PvP

[stuck musk]

or try buying names caches

[slow steppe]

I been trying but this thing it so rare

[marsh crystal]

Why 😔

[stuck musk]

based

[knotty quail]

I don't want to lmao

[marsh crystal]

Hey now don't hate on PvP

[shrewd quail]

Based (I get picked on in DZ :((.)

[knotty quail]

• it's shit

[stuck musk]

it will drop eventually

[stuck musk]

i aint hating cos i play some pvp but sometimes it just get a bit toxic

theres literally nothing to lose unless u tryna get out exotics from DZ

[marsh crystal]

Wait werent we supposed to get a new PvP game mode tho

[hybrid ore]

yarp.

[slow steppe]

I’m running 2 of my hotshot pieces as 170K armor. & the bonus armor talent instead of dps on my PD backpack.

[knotty quail]

You wish lmao, Massive forgot about PvP

[shrewd quail]

Someone took my chameleon earlier in DZ but that’s okay because I just wanted resources

I got the dark winter thing

It’s really good

[stuck musk]

exactly why u not getting more than 25m dmg

[knotty quail]

Meh

[marsh crystal]

No i mean wasnt it teased a while back
A couple youtubers even made videos on descent supposed to be a PvP mode

[knotty quail]

DW is underwhelming

[marsh crystal]

DW is nice

[stuck musk]

its not as good as people make it out to be

[stuck sable]

Ah, that's fair then. Probably a good idea, can't ever go wrong with a bit of toughness, especially when things go awry and you miss a shot

[slow steppe]

my stuff isn’t 10% headhot damage all around yet.

[knotty quail]

It was never supposed to be a PvP mode, they did mention something about getting out more PvP content tho

[slow steppe]

I miss so much 😭

[knotty quail]

But I dunno what happened with that

[shrewd quail]

My sniper build is “whoever hits whoever first wins”

[stuck musk]

the 30% weapon dmg is significant

[marsh crystal]

We need more PvP

[knotty quail]

I really don't care about it haha

[shrewd quail]

PvP should be a felony

[copper shoal]

In my stash it is a stash holder for me 😂

[marsh crystal]

They literally didn't even mention it in the plan thing stream
I hate this

[swift storm]

we need more pvp that's not toxic

[stuck sable]

You miss every shot you don't take :^) just yeet and let muscle memory run its course, watch how quickly you become more consistent

[shrewd quail]

We need 20 v 20 PvP

[slow steppe]

Right.

[stuck musk]

i can hit people directly in front of me, reaction time 100

[marsh crystal]

This

[stuck musk]

20 v 20 pvp will be the most chaotic thing ever

[slow steppe]

I feel too weak with less than 1m armor running heroic or legendary

[marsh crystal]

Would love to gun down 20 rogues with nem

[stuck sable]

I can do that a few times, but then I run out of mouse space and end up smacking my mouse against my keyboard and dying lmao

[shrewd quail]

Nah, we need a raid team vs raid team PvP where two full 8 man teams both complete a raid and at the end of the raid the final fight is the opposite team. The raid ends in an 8 v 8 and which ever team wins get all the rewards

[marsh crystal]

There will definitely be 2 nem and 2 white death users
Everyone else will jst chicken dance

[stuck musk]

im always full red on heroic or leg

[knotty quail]

It really doean't matter there, 1M vs 700k armor is nothing

You will die in 3 bullets anyway

[marsh crystal]

Whichever team wins gets whatever exotic they want
And this is a nice idea

[shrewd quail]

Lets GOOOOOO

[slow steppe]

Ah good point.

[knotty quail]

Let's make Gambit into a Division 2 mode

[shrewd quail]

Wait

[slow steppe]

I’ll give full red a try tomorrow

[shrewd quail]

YES

[marsh crystal]

Agreed

We need more peeveepee content

[shrewd quail]

Gambit my favorite

[marsh crystal]

Dz and conflict are dying

MASSIVE PLS REVIVE PVP 🙏🙏

[stuck musk]

we just need effective anticheat management

[shrewd quail]

I’m not the greatest at PVP But DZ has me cracking up sometimes

[stuck musk]

maybe sbmm?

[marsh crystal]

Sbmm won't work in a game like this

And by work i mean it'll get f Ed up

[shrewd quail]

Was with 4 man team and someone in front of all 5 of us went rogue and dropped a hive lmao not sure what their plan was

[marsh crystal]

Skill builds need nerfs in PvP
If not skill builds then certain skills

[stuck musk]

in the DZ, anything can happen

[marsh crystal]

Like the stinger hive seeker mine and sticky bomb
And remove the shrapnel trap

Shrapnel trap needs to go

[shrewd quail]

This may seem insignificant but being able to change the cosmetic appearance of the attachments on your weapon’s but keeping the stats of the attachments you want should be a thing, we already do it with armor

Transmogrification for attachments if you will

[stuck musk]

i doubt thats gonna happen

[marsh crystal]

You mean have the stats of an 8 times scope on a red dot

[stuck musk]

can u imagine a 12x scope with the appearace of the 1x red dot

thats messed up

[stuck sable]

Red Dot: It was me, ACOG!

[marsh crystal]

Jst give us more interesting PvP modes 🫶🫶

We can worry abt cosmetics later

[shrewd quail]

LMAO

[marsh crystal]

Don't cancel me

[shrewd quail]

I just wanted a different grip I didn’t think about the scope thing that’s funny

[stuck musk]

would be cool if they brought back some D1 cosmetics

i wanna look like a LMB soldier

[shrewd quail]

But no i meant like

[marsh crystal]

Oh jst bring back last stand frm div 1

[lofty bone]

hmmm, wtf was that nemesis

[stuck sable]

I would like more ways to increase Status Effect damage

[marsh crystal]

I got what you meant but it's a wacky idea

[stuck musk]

survival is cool tho

[marsh crystal]

Pretty muche everyones reaction

[lofty bone]

i assume the nemesis is supposed to replicate your playstyle?

[shrewd quail]

Suppressor has 5% crit chance, so equip that for the stat but give it the cosmetic appearance and sound of a muzzle break

[marsh crystal]

Don't you dare
Burn bomb is already op af in PvP

[oak turtle]

How is St. Elmo in DZ?already been a meta?

[lofty bone]

we got fucking melted by a random flame turret that spawned behind us

[marsh crystal]

There should be ppl in dz for us to use it

[stuck musk]

to counter st elmo u would need a hazpro build

[marsh crystal]

Dz is dying rn
Atleast on Asia server on PlayStation

[stuck musk]

thats so niche

[full zinc]

Isnt heartlands supposed to be based on pvp

[marsh crystal]

Bro i want full dz lobbies

[stuck musk]

pvpve ?

[marsh crystal]

Its like a darkzone

[stuck sable]

LOL I wasn't thinking about that, I was wanting more justification to use my Vile and Eclipse set

[oak turtle]

I heard new exotic holster counter it with some HaZpro build

[stuck musk]

71 round mags are fucking mad

[marsh crystal]

I present
Incendiary turret and imperial Dynasty

[stuck sable]

Couple that with True Patriot and 2pc Braz

[stuck sable]

I don't follow D: but I'm curious

[full zinc]

Seasons menu > golden bullet at end

[marsh crystal]

Incendiary turret is as said
A basic flame thrower turret which is manually activated
Imperial Dynasty is a holster which sets enemies within a particular range on fire
Has a 60 sec cooldown i think

[full zinc]

Yeah it got a weird spot because it was a last minute decision

[marsh crystal]

I use imperial Dynasty holster a lot on leggo runs
Especially during emp stages when you can't use skills

[stuck sable]

I'm gonna have to try that out, didn't even think about it

[full zinc]

What's the max damage tick you get when using it

[marsh crystal]

I actually stumbled upon that idea while our team was dying on the emp stage

[marsh crystal]

I get like 700 to 800k
Not given much thought to it considering it works a lot well

[stuck sable]

Good lord, that's insane

[marsh crystal]

But i threw that build away so i don't remember all the pieces i used

[full zinc]

On imperial dynasty damage. Sounds sus

[marsh crystal]

It's coupled with other talents

And increasing status effect as much as you can

[stuck sable]

It'll give me a reason to pull out my dusty Imperial Dynasty, so I'm all for it.

[full zinc]

That's more than most will get with chem on a good eclipse build

[torpid plume]

That sounds cool

[full zinc]

Ss or it didnt happen 😅

[marsh crystal]

Nevertheless whatever is the damage
It also works well as team support if you want your teammates to rush in and destroy the emp thing

[marsh crystal]

I threw the build bro i use skill builds v v rarely 😭😭

I'm not against skill builds i jst find em cheesy

[full zinc]

Iirc imperial dynasty is the same damage tick as a fire bullet

[marsh crystal]

Even though I mentioned the damage i may be wrong

All i used it for was as a distraction

I didn't really give much thought to the damage output

Ok I'll give an example

[full zinc]

I think you may be wrong on the damage ticks

[marsh crystal]

I'm not claiming I'm right i may be wrong

Consider the situation
You enter the Capitol and the first stage upon entering the building is the emp one

[full zinc]

No I get the usage , 💯

[marsh crystal]

In that case you get someone to use a full shield build
You use imperial and rush in

[marsh crystal]

As i said it's supposed to be a distraction thing

But works v well in a lotta cases

Imperial Dynasty do be pretty underrated

That being said i still mainly use hunters fury zero fs build with memento and scorpio
(All blue cores)

The amount of bonus armour you can get 🫶🫶

[full zinc]

I wonder how many gonna try imp dynasty in Leggo now expecting 700-800k ticks from it 🤣

[marsh crystal]

I think i gave wrong information for the right thing 😔😔

[stuck sable]

Anything to give myself more SE damage hoenstly

[marsh crystal]

That being said
Even if low damage output
It's still v good for clearing a lotta rooms

[full zinc]

Not trying to bust your balls but it's misleading .
If you had a ss of it doing that I would be a believer 💯

[marsh crystal]

Hey i apologize for the giving the wrong damage numbers

[stuck sable]

Scorpio did help a bit with the build, just wish I could utilize a bit more. I haven't leveled up any proficiencies, so I could probably get a bit more that way.

[full zinc]

All good

[marsh crystal]

That being said in the rare occasions of me using skill builds
I prefer cluster seeker mine and incendiary turret
Oh and one small tip

I kno skill builds are supposed to be sitting in a corner stuff

But
One fun way of playing em is playing agro a lot

[stuck sable]

I would use Cluster mines if they detonated a bit more quickly. The amount of times enemies outran the radius is absurd

[marsh crystal]

Rush enemies
Throw cluster seeker mine and flame turret
Rush back to full armour teammate

[stuck sable]

Lol, that sounds fun

[marsh crystal]

It is
And i use perfect combined arms and capacitor

Again
In the rare occasion that I do use a skill build

Also surge is a v good rifle for skill builds

[stuck sable]

I've been dabbing in Surge actually

[marsh crystal]

Or harmony

[marsh crystal]

Surge is fun tbvh

[lofty bone]

give me a descent mode but without a big bossfight so soon

[stuck sable]

lol

[thorny talon]

We need cross play for div2 tbh 🥸

[marsh crystal]

The boss fight is what makes descent fun

[stuck sable]

Yes we do

[lofty bone]

i want to get super op and max out some stuff before facing him

[thorny talon]

I could play with all the baddies on ps

[marsh crystal]

Yo one tip for descent
The combo of bloodsucker with ad rush is v powerful to stay alive

[knotty quail]

The combo of Breathe Free and a shotgun is the best

[marsh crystal]

Pack that with increasing your armour stats and armour on kill
And you can't die

[thorny talon]

Alas ubi realised im too powerful 😔

[marsh crystal]

Bro this 🫶

Getting breathe free is so satisfying

[knotty quail]

I had one with a Super 90, max Allegro, Optimist and Preservation

[marsh crystal]

Also doctor home is pretty useful if you're in a team

[knotty quail]

Dude, the fire rate and the burst dmg was insane

[marsh crystal]

Allegro
Interesting

[torpid plume]

Is determined still working for other people? Stopped working for me about an hour ago.

[knotty quail]

Nemesis literally died in 1s

[marsh crystal]

Even composure goes pretty hard in descent

[knotty quail]

I just walked up to him, spammed the shotgun in his face

[marsh crystal]

And leadership is v nice for a team

[knotty quail]

Composure + Entrench is a good combo

[lofty bone]

less fucking warhound spam tho pls, getting hit from all directions by grenades and sniper hounds

[full zinc]

It was earlier this evening for me.. was there a maintenance?
Perfect determined still nerfed afaik

[torpid plume]

No maintenance it just stopped working so I reset my console maybe now it will work

[thorny talon]

Jammer is what u need

[rugged remnant]

@knotty quail what guns should i use for a hunters fury build

[copper shoal]

smg /shotgun

[restive lotus]

What was composure and entrench

[rugged remnant]

@copper shoal anything specific or just a good rolled shotty n smg?

[knotty quail]

MPX and Scorpio

[rugged remnant]

bet

[knotty quail]

TWD when in cover, armor repair on headshots while in cover

[copper shoal]

I like MP7 with optimist and m870

[winged kiln]

am i correct in that we can't get duplicate st elmos until season is over?

[full zinc]

Idk if it's in loot pool after unlocked in season. Would have to farm AR and see

[marsh crystal]

☝️👍

[knotty quail]

Got Delta'd from the game and now need to wait in queue

[long thorn]

i seem to

not have a backpack loot spot

[tidal nest]

has anyone check cassie mendoza's vendor ?

i just visit the vendor and she sells nothing

[tender wave]

Determined tends to stop working if you go down and respawn, fix is just to unequip/reequip the weapon.

[royal summit]

I return seeking refuge. Multiplayer is buggy.

[blazing crown]

Anyone up for some xp farming for season pass levels and gb?

[quiet heath]

how do we activate the golden bullet in this league?

[paper crystal]

it is at the end of the season activities just go all the way to the right

[quiet heath]

Oh, why would they put it there?

[tidal nest]

perhaps maintainance delay compensation ?

[broken solstice]

it probably wasnt intentional

[long thorn]

Merciless, keep or scrap?

[elfin hazel]

I'd keep it in my stash

[long thorn]

kk

[elfin hazel]

it hasn't been "good" in years but nice to keep on the wall

[full zinc]

Finally done work, time to work on some league headshots. How is everyone?

[lime fulcrum]

good good ty
maaaan D4 is sexy attractive bro........

[tidal nest]

i have a question, why is people keep suggesting newbie to go into heroic countdown ?

from what i understand, all countdown item drop has heroic quality, so new player could enjoy heroic drop quality item even if they participate in lower difficulty, but why asking them to join heroic difficulty?

[tender wave]

Haven't seen anyone recommend heroic countdown specifically, challenging is usually preferred for newer players. Think people just assume challenging will have bad quality loot

[crisp panther]

So I was doing invaded bank when a green chest piece dropped -
TODO: GearSet Q Chest
TODO : GearSet Q Name

Bug?

[tender wave]

Yeah just ignore them

Unfinished apparel mod items

[crisp panther]

It has 398 value imma gonna sell it

[tender wave]

You can get some unique fashion pics since they're the only invisible armour pieces

[full zinc]

Man, matchmaking kinda dead today 🤣

[tidal nest]

is it possible to get a second st elmo AR ?

[elfin hazel]

someone said they've gotten 2 from exotic caches here I think

[tender wave]

Yeah I've had one from a cache (after completing the season pass)

[long thorn]

well i found my backpack spawn...

coney island.

[fiery cloud]

Hey Kettle,.drib

[rose dagger]

Hello o/

What can I do to make this game run properly and stop crashing every 5-30 minutes ?
I meet the requirements or specification.

I played the game 5 years ago when it released and it was fine

[stuck musk]

Almost nothing, it happens to everyone

[rose dagger]

That's wonderful...
Any hint concerning the potential issue ?

[torpid plume]

Cheers

[vague pecan]

issue runs deep and the existing team don't have the expertise to fix it. they're bringing in a team soon ™️ to address the issues

[rose dagger]

What a lovely news

[elfin hazel]

believe they've already brought on the team considering the wording changed to we're still hiring in regards to that kinda stuff

[full zinc]

so determined and hotshot stay procced through fast travel 🤣 wth

[elfin hazel]

REAL

[tender wave]

Hey Saph

[fallow idol]

Where the hell is the golden bullet? I can’t find the toggle to activate it.

[elfin hazel]

end of the season track

[fallow idol]

oh… how convenient

Thanks dribbles

[oak turtle]

have anyone already test St. Elmo with ND set?

[broken solstice]

yep

very good because of its laser beans tier handling

[cyan granite]

lazer beans pog

[runic temple]

guys im stuck at a screen when i open league activity reward long pressin Z. i have to end task.

anyone has the same issue?

[tender wave]

Hold escape for several seconds to get out

And avoid the long press Z to get in, go through the season menu instead

[broken plume]

It's kinda funny when running Descent and you get an "exotic" talent from non exotics. Thought it was just Blood Sucker but I got Glass Canon last night as an option

[stuck musk]

Im pretty sure glass cannon aint an exotic talent

[mossy wigeon]

What bounties are giving exotics?

[tender wave]

Yeah glass cannon now appears in both exotic and regular talent pools in descent

[tender wave]

No bounties currently give guaranteed exotics, but all have a decent chance of dropping chameleon

[mossy wigeon]

Ty

Is it a good gun?

[lean shadow]

It Is now

[stuck musk]

U wot

[tender wave]

Chameleon? It's pretty mid, there's always better options

[mossy wigeon]

Awh

[stuck musk]

It aint bad but it aint good

Keeping up the stacks is just too much of a pain

[cold lagoon]

Man Potomac event center is the most boring mission ever

[tender wave]

There's a couple of good exotic ARs that are easy to get: Capacitor (just do 5 summit challenges) and St Elmo's (reach season lvl 90) @mossy wigeon

[mossy wigeon]

5 summit challenges

What are those

[tender wave]

Go to summit, open map, read the screen

[stuck musk]

when u open up ur map in summit u can see challenges in the top left bar

[mossy wigeon]

I've done 1

[stuck musk]

completing 5 gets u the capacitor

[mossy wigeon]

Is it the whole combat thing or just one section of the combat thing

[broken plume]

#lfg-raid-pc

[verbal fiber]

ye my bad

[broken plume]

Get that LFG bs outta here, this channel is for good vibes and watching people freak out over minor set backs in release schedules

Lol

[full zinc]

bt headshots done. easiest headshot challenge yet. such a broken talent (determined). way way too much fun...definitly gonna get nerfed into the ground again 🤣

[broken plume]

Nah, Lincoln Memorial Speedrun is easier. Took less than 5 minutes

[full zinc]

just read what you posted above me 🤣

[full zinc]

ofc. all i got left now are elites. i dont think my lincoln was sub 5 tho

[rough sleet]

@tender wave Kettle, I can't remember and not at home atm to check. Directives in open world do not affect NPC kill XP correct? Only activities/missions/etc.

[hybrid grove]

where is the vocal raid please

if you have the link please

[tender wave]

I don't actually know, sorry

Plus I'm at work so can't check either

[tender wave]

Over on 'thedivision' community discord

[rough sleet]

haha, no worries. slow second at work and was adjusting my XP chart a bit.

[hybrid grove]

TY

[tender wave]

I guess there's also the accolade xp (headshot kills etc) to take into account?

[hybrid grove]

why i cant see vocal channel for the raid

[main blade]

can anyone help me? i got the bullet king, its an exotic that i dont have to reload... but continuously it just stops firing whilst showing 900 bullets? is this normal ?

[rough sleet]

yeah but thankfully the game doesn't combine the two values on screen per say (sorta) and so far it seems kill XP is the same across all difficulties (honestly haven't checked legendary)

[broken plume]

They removed the voice channels due to not being able to moderate them... A pretty weak excuse but what's done is done

[elfin hazel]

as other moderators have said we had no input

[rose dagger]

I can't play anymore...
3 blue screen in a row by changing settings in the menu.
Anyone can help ?

[azure lintel]

it can help but try to verify game files

[mossy wigeon]

Where'd you get it

[frosty wadi]

That doesn’t matter because its an exotic

[torpid plume]

Yes, Having fun in this game is not allowed.

[full zinc]

Never , 10 lashes and a nerf

[lone valve]

Don't think they do affect kill xp and whatnot

[hybrid ore]

You do gain more xp with them active, and it doesn't actually say whether or not that they leave out kill xp.
Either way, kill xp is very much not the main reason to use Directives.

[lone valve]

Guess I never payed attention to the kill xp going up with directives on

[empty crag]

prolly gonna be playing alot more CoD than Division now

[hybrid ore]

Variety is the spice of life.

[empty crag]

new season starting today so

[tawny garden]

Spice is the spice of life.

hyena giggle

[hybrid ore]

I love that there's just a big Dune nerd on the MSV team.

[empty crag]

"hey dode need some spice?"

[rough sleet]

no worries, was just fixing up a up to date xp chart for all the difficulties and activities and such and was just making sure my notes/tips on the chart were accurate. thanks everyone!

[tawny garden]

Directives + GuldenBoolet + MMR/HH/Determined

just going around farming CP's 4

i hope they dont reverse determined again - im so used to this now D:

[broken plume]

I mean it's nice, but it does make things too easy

[hybrid ore]

Golden Bullet is only temporary, enjoy the farm while it's active, it'll be gone soon enough.

[rough sleet]

makes getting those HC characters up to 1k easier/faster. lol

[broken solstice]

I go around w an M1A with determined and it's so quick. Sure you can't one shot named bosses or helmet ppl but that's what the white death/tac 50 are for

[iron mesa]

What's the Targeted Loot in DZ today? I'm at work rn and can't look 🤣

[vague pecan]

sounds like a driver issue or PC issue (BSOD is very rarely caused by software)

[sour owl]

It crashed 3 times while playing the game last night. This problem still persists, every time I send a report but in vain.

[zinc garden]

Hrm, are they going to reset the golden bullet event between this event period and the one at the end of the season or will the objectives carry over? (I mean, I'd love if it does reset, means more stars so more stuffs I can buy on top of the stars I get from levelling)

Dying due to me taking risks and doing dumb stuff because I wanna complete the objectives ftw 😛

[restive lotus]

No they won't carry over
It will tell you at season venders
You only spend it while its active

[zinc garden]

I kind of guessed but wasn't sure. This is only my second golden bullet event and this one was an extra we got due to the borked maintenance after all.

So even better 😄

[hushed warren]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[balmy acorn]

desent ammount, to the point theres an xp bug where if oyou join someone whos on like loop say 20+ you get almost a level each time you join their lobby

its how alot of people have already completed it

[restive lotus]

You can't join someone ???

[balmy acorn]

uh i literally watched it happen lmao

so idk

i'll have to ask my friend who did it, pretty sure you just have to be in the starting lobby after completing a loop

[rose dagger]

It's the game, I can tell you.
Seeing what is out there concerning the division 2, I'm not surprised

[gaunt harbor]

i had a lot of BSOD and updated my windows and it fixed.

[gaunt harbor]

for me it was my software, I updated my windows settings and no more blue screens.

[restive lotus]

Where you watch it ?

[balmy acorn]

live on a discord call lmao

[vague pecan]

it's an instability or misconfiguration on your machine. it won't be directly caused by TD2 but it's exposing something on your machine

[gaunt harbor]

^

[rose dagger]

Everything is up to date.
I play every day many different games, I started to play the game this morning and got 3 BSOD each time while on the game.

[gaunt harbor]

I’d suggest trying to update ur drivers in device manager and updating your windows. If the problem persists go to Microsoft live chat support and they’ll take over ur pc and fix the problem. That’s what I did.

[rose dagger]

Everything is up to date.

[gaunt harbor]

Microsoft Live Chat Support > Talk to a Agent> Let them Get on ur pc and solve the problem.

I talked to one guy and he fixed my BSOD in 5 minutes. Hasn’t happened since.

[fast shadow]

does anyone know all the descent exotic talents??

[restive lotus]

Bullet hell , sandman , bloodsucker , breath free , outcast
These are the main ones i can remember lol

[balmy acorn]

adaptive instincts, doctor home, bullet hell, breathe free, plague of the outcasts and i think thats it

[restive lotus]

Oh yes doctor home too

[fast shadow]

i run first loop 9 times and didnt get pestilence talent once

fuckng rng, bruh

[restive lotus]

Yea i had a few bad runs aswell
But i would say breaths free and bullet hell are best in the mode with shotgun semi rifle and any revolver
Pretty much clears anything

[warm zodiac]

Guys i bought expansion of game. How to play? I login on game and do something?

[small spear]

breathe free is my favorite

[restive lotus]

Revolvers are loads of fun with bullet hell lol
Just have to remember not pick any talent that requires reloading

[restive lotus]

Yup first on my list aswell

[balmy acorn]

oh

[small spear]

magnum is a must get too yeah

[balmy acorn]

and chatterbox

[fast shadow]

i will give u my knowledge of lvl 21(i didnt die there i went to sleep) u stuck pestilence, swich to SR with one bullet in it and optimist equipted, u hit chungus 85k a tic

[balmy acorn]

lmg + bullet hell, plague, breathe free, and youre good

[fast shadow]

unhinged needed

[restive lotus]

Damn nice lol
Things is i do not have the patience or tbe energy to go for that long
I was falling asleep after loop 10 🤣

[fast shadow]

plague is not good with just lmg

[balmy acorn]

from my runs it is lol

[fast shadow]

jesus, they even removed ability to attach images((

[restive lotus]

You can share in #ask-td2-community

[fast shadow]

what the hell they think discord is for???\

[restive lotus]

They always had it disabled here

[fast shadow]

well, may be

[balmy acorn]

@restive lotus you type /join and their ubi name, it bypasses the fact you cant join in descent

[restive lotus]

Alright a pc thing then
I guess thats why i didn't know about it lol

[lofty breach]

so public executions are the new resource convey? 🙃

[lone valve]

kinda
i just go from control point to control point and do activities inbetween

[balmy acorn]

deadass ^

[lone valve]

like sure you can just do public executions but now the activites are all pretty good for xp that i just clearlike half the map lol

[lofty breach]

I know they said it's more balanced but public executions and propaganda broadcasts are significantly higher xp than other activities. not including control points.

[dire patrol]

Has anyone heard if there was a fix for missing DARPA mission? This affected those secondary chars that went to NY instead of DC

[blazing crown]

Looking for a UK clan ps4 please

[zinc garden]

Ugh, it's one of those days where it feels like everything does more dmg than usual and that luck is not on your side.

[pseudo fiber]

yeah I just don't feel the division today

[zinc garden]

I have no issues doing summit normally, but today I for some dumb reason keep failing on low floors, lol

[olive tinsel]

welp not a good idea to open the event rewards screen from the prompt in the corner

[rough sleet]

probably gonna have to get an invite from someone who has it. they knew it was an issue and supposdly the "fix" is live but suggestion still says to join someone who has it on trello if it's similar to the missing/locked pentagon/darpa mission bug.

[zinc garden]

hold esc if on pc

[olive tinsel]

i am. ill try that next time. i had to alt+f4 a couple of time

[eternal forum]

is it possible to activate the current golbal event? i cant figure out how for the life of me

[tender notch]

same as always, go to the season track > select the event > press turn on event hot key shown at bottom

[eternal forum]

why is it all the way at the end of the season page

[rough sleet]

was better than rewriting the entire schedule for an unscheduled bonus event....

[tender notch]

because its added after the season track was created (for the downtime issue)

[rough sleet]

they could've broke something doing that. XD then they'd have to give us a bonus event for breaking a bonus event....hahaha

[eternal forum]

ahuh, i didnt know that, did they say that it was at the end anywhere?

[tender wave]

No, people just looked and figured it out

[zinc shadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS48Z87I-MI

[vital arch]

Good Tank Build?

[frozen meadow]

#td2-build-advice

[upbeat python]

Hey everyone. Can with NinjaBike backpack BLUEPRINT but NO actual backapck in their inventory tell me if they have gotten the backpack since the start of new season?. It used to be last season that you neeed a copy already in your inventory on any of your agents to have it drop from backpack sources, but we're supposedly getting it in new season without needing a copy in our inventory. Just the blueprint should be enough...I just wanna make sure if that's true or not.

I know exotics usually go into the general loot pool for their allocated source after their season ends, but I'm suspecting it's not the case with NinjaBike backpack.

[frozen meadow]

From what I've heard it is in the pool

[upbeat python]

Yeah I heard that as well, but damn it my luck is so bad I really wanna make sure if someone tells me they got it without already having a copy of it with them

[tender notch]

still need more info, might be bugged still and not in target loot pool, so have to farm exotic caches for ninjga bag

[upbeat python]

Obviously needs to be within this new season.

[frozen meadow]

Oh that's what I heard then, ty

So not in TL pool but not unobtainable

[tender notch]

last season it was bugged and NOT in target loot as well (only was in exotic caches)

[full zinc]

Or normal drops*

[upbeat python]

Thing is, it's not even in exo caches if we don'T already have a copy of it in any of our agents' inventory. Even with blueprint we don't get it. we MUST have a copy of it, or otherwise it will never drop.

[timber hatch]

Rng is trying to help you out, take the message

[tender notch]

past season exotics enter exotic caches automatically after season ends. (dont need blueprint) CURRENT season exos require the blueprint 1st.

[upbeat python]

See, I appreciate you're trying to help, but my issue isn't quite what you're saying here.

[tender notch]

current season exo may or maynot enter their target loot pool, been several bugs with current season exos for the past few seasons sadly

[azure lintel]

not to flex but i got level 15 yesterday

😸

[frozen meadow]

Uhhhhhh k?

Idk why you felt the need to say that but k

Lol

[tender notch]

TLDR: you dont need to own the blue print, ninja bag is in the exotic cach pool for EVERYONE. since its a past season exotic.

[azure lintel]

cuz this games so fun!

[full zinc]

Base game? Or shd

[azure lintel]

i got my buddy into it and man its so fucking fun

[azure lintel]

whats shd

[upbeat python]

In last season, we absolutely needed to have a copy of ninja backpack to have it drop from caches or (with extreme luck) drop from open world. Has it changed to where we don't need a copy present already for it to drop or not?

[frozen meadow]

Lol been a while since I've heard of someone unironically liking the game

Dont worry you'll learn to hate it like the rest o' us

[full zinc]

Base game.. enjoy the ride 👍

[azure lintel]

i literally have like 6 hours in the game im learning alot

[azure lintel]

nah thats me for games im very competitive in like apex

[frozen meadow]

Nah trust me

[azure lintel]

i have 400 days played in that but i hate the game still got rank 5 tho

[frozen meadow]

I have 3000 hours in this game id know lmao

[azure lintel]

maybe but its so fun

[upbeat python]

Do you have any connection with any dev that could tell you if the backpack in question can also drop from its targeted loot in missions/open world/ summit etc?

[frozen meadow]

Early game yes, late game no

[tender notch]

last season was ninja bags active seasaon, it was never in target loot pool (was bugged) but was in caches after you got the blueprint.
THIS season its a past season exotic and was added to cachces (dont need to own blueprint), still pending more info if its fixed for target loot or not though.

[frozen meadow]

Lol

Mods don't have dev contacts like that lol

[upbeat python]

I'm asking this because I've legit farmed for over 170 summit floors on challenging 4 directives, farmed well over 60 floor 90 bosses, done multiple countdown runs and just about 40 hours in open world = no drop

[tender notch]

yea not for info like that sadly, but we do for other type of info.

[lone valve]

im sure you can tag morten or someone else on twitter
and maybe theyd answer you

[tender notch]

@upbeat python you never got it from target loot pool because it was bugged, see my comment ^^

[frozen meadow]

Azur give me the full status update on the new dlc I know you have it

[upbeat python]

Would love to hear it on their twitter once (if ever) the backpack is able to drop from sources other than caches.

[frozen meadow]

[tender notch]

eh well i do have that info, but cant share lol

[frozen meadow]

Wait seriously lmao

You're under nda?

Damn the more you know

[rough sleet]

lol, rolls up the newspaper

[lone valve]

hes in the ETF shhhh

[full zinc]

Last season I had the bag drop from a red npc in summit. It's very rare drop. And rare in caches as well

[frozen meadow]

Whacks you with it

[rough sleet]

HC character dead OOF

[frozen meadow]

It does more damage than a melee hit

[tender notch]

👀

[upbeat python]

That's because you already have a copy on one of your agents on your account. Anyone without a copy could not get it at all, like me.

[lone valve]

the ubi staff carefully looking at azur

[tender notch]

that would be the normal global exotic chance (still there but like 0.02% chance, you got extremely lucky) but that wasnt target loot.

[frozen meadow]

Azur randomly disappears from the server after saying the devs are fixing bugs

[tender notch]

🏃‍♂️

[tender notch]

incorrect.

[frozen meadow]

Azur be like "I want vcs back" and gets banned from the game and the server

[upbeat python]

Azur, could you get any info from a dev about the Ninja backpack drop issue please? I've been as polite as one can be on twitter asking multiple times but I get zero response.

[frozen meadow]

He just said he can't lmfao?

[tender notch]

im still waiting on info on that

[lone valve]

tag a dev on twitter they sometimes reply

[upbeat python]

Aight. Thanks.

[frozen meadow]

Ubi devs gonna 1984 azur for saying that

[tender notch]

as i said it was BUGGED and not in target loot last season, no word on that being fixed for this season, but it is 100% in caches (no blue print required)

[rough sleet]

you'll get an answer for ninjabag when summit combat mastery comm is fixed. 🫠

[tender notch]

@upbeat python ^^

[upbeat python]

I'll come back daily here to ask if anything changed about this issue. Hopefully some day I get an answer. My hardcore agent would love it to drop.

[lone valve]

lo you gonna wait a while

[frozen meadow]

It should be in TL if the bag is in your stash perhaps

[tender notch]

if it was not bugged then yes (though would needs the blue print, doesnt care about owning the bag, its the blueprint)

[upbeat python]

I know that already. The difference is that last season we needed to already possess a copy for it drop anywhere ever, while this new season and onwards (so far) it can drop from caches even without blueprint. Just remains the confirmation about it dropping anywhere other than caches..hopefully soon.

[tender notch]

dude... no

READ fully what i wrote 🤦‍♂️

[upbeat python]

I was told by multiple people across different servers that dataminers said we needed to have a copy. That's why I keep mentioning it.

I suppose they were all wrong, then.

[tender notch]

told you like 4 times already... im done, ill let others deal with it.

they are 100% wrong

[glass owl]

Hi guys . i looking for a group have 20 loop . i pay for join i need that .!!!10 dollor

[rough sleet]

🤔

[tender notch]

my info is based off data mine (in game coding)

see spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice

[upbeat python]

Probably, though the coincidence that out of the dozens of people I spoke to all said they only got it to drop when they already had a copy and many others said they never got it from any source when they had no copy. But then again, you're probably right.

So many conflicting information I might have gotten lost in them.

[tender notch]

^^^

[tardy zenith]

i am here

[azure lintel]

Heyo new to the game any tips?

[tardy zenith]

to hunt bountys but my wifi might still be out when i went home

[azure lintel]

(I mean I'm level 30) but relatively new

[upbeat python]

Enjoy it to its fullest while leveling. Explore the world and use everything to get used to everything along the way.

Exploration without fast traveling as a new player is something I miss greatly.

[azure lintel]

Awesome, I mean I used to play skyrim without fast travel so nothing new

[upbeat python]

Just take your time with it. Don't let people lead you to one way or another. As a new player, you should use everything available and see what you like and from there (in the end-game) you can get a build that you like, or of course ask around in the build advice channel here or visit youtube for them.

And as is the case with any looter shooter, higher numbers don't always mean the best in slot.

[verbal mica]

lol ppl will say they looking for eb but leave after ONE raid 🤦🏾‍♂️

[azure lintel]

Oof

Whats a raid?

[verbal mica]

8 player mission with chance of exotic at the end for eagle burger ar

[azure lintel]

Ahhh interesting

That's actually sick there are 8 player missions in this game

[upbeat python]

Raids typicall demand very high-end builds with maximized stats for optimal runs. They test the player's experience, gear, and team work to solve combat puzzles and advance through the mission.

There are 2 raids in division 2.

[verbal mica]

[full zinc]

Last season that would be accurate. This season it's not locked behind anything like azur mentioned. You would have to contact devs direct to get a better answer

[upbeat python]

One is a little more about damage dealt with not so much in terms of puzzle mechanics, while the other is heavy on mechanics and even heavier on DPS.

[azure lintel]

I see, so that's a very cool concept

[upbeat python]

Though both raids also demand plenty of support in terms of being a tank absoring enemy aggro, or being a healer.

Plenty of ways to contribute in a raid

[azure lintel]

I mean I'm working on making my own clan because, the one I had been apart of for 2 weeks didn't really help me much felt like I was playing solo until my partner came and played w me lol

Although throughout my experience I'm REALLY enjoying it.

[upbeat python]

Sent you a PM Damien.

[cinder nacelle]

I dig the new Descent mode. Anyone know if those buffs you can buy from the vendor on the outside and permanent or just for the run? I think the crit and stuff is permanent but I wasn't sure about the other stuff.

[cold shoal]

they are permanent

[thorny talon]

Maybe the raid laster more than hour ☠️

So they leave

[cold shoal]

for now anyway, may change or reset at the start of a new season. Not sure about that part. But for the time being....

[upbeat python]

I god I hate the idea of Descent outside shop resetting with each season.

[cold shoal]

lol agreed.

[upbeat python]

Make us max out the shop outside and otherwise have the same NSA tech thing be for some cache purchases like 150 for exo cache or something like that

Kinda like countdown shop

[cinder nacelle]

Ah that's dope. So, I guess I need to grind those out then. That's my new mission. The way the +1 talent and extra talent choice is worded makes it seem like it's just for the run so that's good to know it stays.

[cold shoal]

It was just something I read somewhere, not sure on how true it is.

Yep. Get that talent one first then pick and choose as you feel you need

[upbeat python]

I find armor on kill is priotiy #1 as we start out very squishy in Descent.

[cinder nacelle]

I like that repeat runs make you stronger overall and you're not starting from scratch-scratch every time if you buy that stuff.

[frozen meadow]

I maxed out my AoK and CHC after dealing with the random talent and the +1 talent

[cold shoal]

Thats was my number 2 actually lol

[frozen meadow]

Just maxed my credit gain last night too

[upbeat python]

My #2 is CHC which is done. Also got extra talent done. The 3rd will be descent currency gain as that helps reroll bad talents in each loop

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah credit gain seems like a great one too.

[cold shoal]

thats next for me

[frozen meadow]

Yeah +25% is based af

[inner elbow]

Eh not really

[frozen meadow]

It's just expensive AF lol

[unique quest]

hey friends 🙂

[frozen meadow]

Reroll spam

[cold shoal]

super rich people shit lol

[frozen meadow]

The more creds the more rerolls

Helps a ton when you get critical / destructive / hazard type rolls

[cinder nacelle]

Yup. Being able to re-roll talents when needed and still buy stuff from the shop is key I think. A couple of times I re-rolled too much trying to get good stuff and had nothing for the shop.

[cold shoal]

I do try to limit the rerolls...those are both expensive and rewardful depending on how you wanna play. skip a few and that extra cash comes in handy af

[frozen meadow]

I'm able to reroll spam all my creds away and still buy the +1 offensive at the end of the arena

[frozen meadow]

If you max out credit gain then you can basically blow creds no issue

Seriously you get over 1200 from just the arena

[cold shoal]

thats what I was I thinking too

[cinder nacelle]

Ah that's awesome.

[cold shoal]

nice

[frozen meadow]

It's just expensive cuz it costs 1250 nsa thingy mafucks

I think I'ma go for hok next

Also 10chc as a base skill is helpful AF cuz it makes clutch actually not useless

[rough sleet]

i kinda did AOK, cause Im an idiot, hahaha

[frozen meadow]

I maxed AoK and chc

[inner elbow]

AoK is good

[rough sleet]

but I figured I needed all the help i could get off the bat....

[frozen meadow]

And the credit gain

[cold shoal]

I've got a few things but credits is def one of the next ones

[frozen meadow]

Also yeah AoK is good lol

[cinder nacelle]

It's quite a cerebral mode because you do have to plan and strategise and also it tests you knowledge of the game in terms of how you put stuff together. I like it.

[rough sleet]

then I think I did the extra talent perk, but now im poor....

[frozen meadow]

OH SHIT I forgot I maxed PFE too lmao

[inner elbow]

AoK can help you in the early stages when your Preservation is not up to scratch

[frozen meadow]

Ye

[cold shoal]

I really like it but its a long grind. sometimes I don't have the time and if you don't have the time its just not worth it

1 loop wont get you anything lol

[frozen meadow]

If you don't have the time then don't do the grind

[cinder nacelle]

I actually prefer that. Countdown was too quick and I hated having to rush around like that.

[cold shoal]

exactly lol

I love the chaos

[frozen meadow]

I like going into these things with awful groups and carrying to make myself feel better

[cinder nacelle]

I always feel like I just don't know where I'm supposed to be and paranoid I'm missing loot somewhere just rushing around. That's countdown for me ha ha

[cold shoal]

But that's also why I like descent because I have to think a little, countdown is just kill and go, kill and go lol

[frozen meadow]

Or just being lazy and afking so people think I'm contributing

[cold shoal]

true hahahahaha

[frozen meadow]

The amount of times I've gone afk in missions is insane

[cold shoal]

that's also fun lol

[frozen meadow]

I've probably afked like 10-20 raids

Nobody notices a thing xD

By afk I mean I'm not paying attention until I get shot at

[cold shoal]

too busy being shot in the face lol

[frozen meadow]

So I'm still actually contributing

Except countdown

I just follow the group on autopilot and then sit in the arena

Shoot a few rounds every once in a while

[inner elbow]

You have to be decisive in Descent too, though. Being indecisive means time lost

[cinder nacelle]

I got one guy shouting at me in the chat to hurry up when I was picking my talent. I just dropped out the session. If that guy is just picking his stuff quickly and not even thinking about it then the run is doomed.

[frozen meadow]

I'm never indecisive

I'm always the first to pick

[cold shoal]

My favorite thing is watching people go in with a drone and watching them getting mowed down by it as well. That's funny lol

I run solo. Or with NOT with randoms lol

[inner elbow]

You can't be spending 5 minutes to pick a talent because if you do that on every room it's a lot of time gone

[frozen meadow]

Those people piss me off

[cold shoal]

In a group there is a timer as well, so you gotta be aware of that too.

[frozen meadow]

They'll be like waiting 10 minutes to pick between vigilance, hazard, and extra

[inner elbow]

There's a timer of 3 minutes but even that is forever

[frozen meadow]

Nah they'll stand there regardless

They'll go to the first shop lmao

[cinder nacelle]

I think skill stuff is not so strong in it. The chances of you getting a decent offensive skill and all the right talents to take advantage seems low. So I stick with red weapon DPS. That's my early opinion but maybe that changes.

[cold shoal]

oh that was countdown I wasn't talking about descent

[cinder nacelle]

Oh okay ha ha. Yeah Countdown has hunters so that's a no-brainer.

[inner elbow]

Skill DPS doesn't perform well. Skill tiers however is useful for utility skills like reviver hive, riot foam

[cold shoal]

when the hunter hijacks it lol. Happens almost every time

[lone valve]

I'd say it's only worthwhile investing in skills
Riot foam and anything status
Especially if you get a couple of empowered early on

[inner elbow]

Yup

[lone valve]

Or banshee pulse

[cinder nacelle]

Yeah status seems good.

[inner elbow]

The riot foam is mainly for the Nemesis. Post-Nemesis you can swap it out for something else and go full DPS

[lone valve]

If ur investing in actually skill dps for turrets and drones ur mad
Altough the sniper turret does nutty damage
But obviously that'll get you killed against nemesis

[cinder nacelle]

I suck at aiming the riot foam and I get it every time. 😬

[small arrow]

Does anyone need memento on pc, one just dropped

[cold shoal]

Can you share gear with someone that wasn't in your group when youre on PC?

[near rivet]

I think you can only share with your curent group.

[small arrow]

ah right

[finite eagle]

Me not getting an exotic in both raids must be my canon event.

[fiery cloud]

Hey Eevee

[vapid breach]

I learned the hard way that it is a very terrible idea to go into nemesis fight with stinger hive. I died instantly with 0 chance of getting away.

[odd trail]

does the ninja bike backpack drop

[tender notch]

its in exotic caches yes, unknown atm if its fixed and in target loot though.

[knotty quail]

I got it during a CP

But I also got it through the battle pass so I dunno if that has any influence

[tender notch]

as target loot or general drop? 2 different things

[knotty quail]

Ehhhhh, I'm not sure

[tender notch]

need more info then 😛

[knotty quail]

Some random Outcast dropped it

I was just doing it for xp, I wasn't even collecting the loot

I took that one tho, exo comp

[fiery cloud]

Hey Azurmen32

[rough sleet]

isn't that almost impossible to test tho? 🤔 because ur trying to see if it's in target loot....but if it drops as normal loot in a target loot area it still gets the target loot icon? does it not? (all same type drops as target loot get shown as target loot on the loot spire)

so you wouldn't know if it was target loot or normal drop that just happened to be listed as target loot? 🤔

[lime fulcrum]

if it drops as a targeted loot pool it will take it's icon.
otherwise it is normal drop.

[rough sleet]

yeah but normal drops that match the target loot type/brand/etc. (whatever the target loot is) get the target loot icon regardless if it was actually from the target loot pool, or just a random normal drop (if I remember correctly). like if u had 3 pistols drop on a single spire in pistol target loot, all 3 would get target loot icon despite not all 3 actually being rng'd from the target loot pool.

i was pretty sure that was the case, or so I've heard people mention previously regarding this type of scenario/test (unrelated to the ninjabag itself)

[lone valve]

I went into it with a sniper turret
Thankfully I always deployed it near me so I could just blindfire the turret when they hacked it

[neat birch]

moved to #ask-td2-community

[astral jacinth]

Did they fix the mission loop bug from the previous manhunt mission when you leave coney island

[lone valve]

The side mission yes

[brittle copper]

Ugh... I get so excited when I see an exotic drop, but then my mood sours when I see it's a dirty Chameleon. Instant de-construct

[rain pewter]

Fr, I have gotten about 6 of those this season

[brittle copper]

Such a trash gun too

[rain pewter]

Wym

[brittle copper]

As in, Famas, St Elmo's a lot of ARs will do a better job as an AR than the Chameleon

[rain pewter]

I wouldn't know lol I'm using the Chameleon and I've been having a blast with it probably because it's the only exotic gun I own besides St Elmo

[brittle copper]

Fair, I don't mean to bash the gun, but I will say that for DPS the St Elmo is probably the better and more consistent option. Plus it has a 70 round mag compared to the 50 of the Chaneleon

[hollow obsidian]

I’m using my chameleon until I get my st Elmo’s! Only 10 levels left to go!

[brittle copper]

Nice! You'll like the St Elmo's. More damage for only 58 less RPM. Plus it has a 70 round mag, a bunch of powerful mods and the talent lets you CC enemies which is real useful for killing bosses

[plush whale]

damn i love nd

[craggy pond]

How do I get the Ninjabike backpack now that is isn't in the season track?

[plush whale]

backpack target loot

or exotic cache

[craggy pond]

Dope

[craggy pond]

What XP changes were done to the open world?

[rough sleet]

activity xp rewards were revamped/nerfed/buffed

[pliant sentinel]

check the patch notes, they have a graph

whats up kirra

[rough sleet]

sup groundhog

[pliant sentinel]

on that two crashes in 5 mins shame corner

[rough sleet]

oof, i feel ya mate. that's a rough corner to be in.

[pliant sentinel]

"yeah i can do a couple CD matches"

[rough sleet]

game: "are you sure about that?"

[tranquil marsh]

why is the game so buggy after year 5

[pliant sentinel]

u gotta ask a moderator

iirc its because most of the devs move on to other projects

[tranquil marsh]

unfortunate, just as the game got the most players lol

[pliant sentinel]

one more match

if i crash again, im taking away ur cinnamon rolls kirra

[rough sleet]

I will go on a killing spree if someone touches my cinnamon rolls

u don't mess with a mans comfort food....

[tulip ibex]

Kingbreaker is so hard to get man

[dusty crane]

i JUST realized they added golden bullet back

and jupiter manhunt yay i missed that one

[potent radish]

Im stuck at unplayable area and my screen keeps reloading and reloading how to fix this

[primal flint]

what do i do if i got to the end of the raid and i had only 4 keys?

[rough sleet]

try quickly hitting back a few times as u load in (to combat roll backwards)

[primal flint]

am i allowed to redo the raid or do i have to wait a week

[potent radish]

Wdym i send vid in unofficial troubleshoot as for reference

[plush whale]

u can do the raids all u want btu u get keys from chests only 1 a week

other then that u get it from last boss

[primal flint]

I didn't get to open my chest tho

so am i just shit outta luck?

[plush whale]

u have 5/5?

keys

[primal flint]

no @plush whale i had 4/5 and i couldn't figure out why

so i just gave up after searching every corner of the last part

[plush whale]

every raid has 4 keys in chests what are around map(mostly before/after boss) and last 5th is from last boss

[primal flint]

i didn't get the drop tho

my raid team said i was just unlucky

[craggy pond]

Are the NSA Tech upgrades permanent?

[plush whale]

they always drop from last boss

[plush whale]

should be

[craggy pond]

K

[primal flint]

everyone said impossible till i sent them a screenshot

[plush whale]

what raid u did?

[primal flint]

dh

[plush whale]

u must have missed one

tell me every spot u found keys in

[primal flint]

i mightve, but i had 7 eye witnesses that say i didn't

[plush whale]

or didnt u open the chest earlier?

[primal flint]

anyways im over the fact that the game fucked me

im just wondering if that means i can go again

and they keys will be there again for me to try to open the chest at the end

[plush whale]

u can but u only get it from chest u didnt open and last boss

[primal flint]

ok so i dont have to re-get the 4 keys i already have

[plush whale]

nope

[primal flint]

ok thank you sir

[plush whale]

im 16 btw but thanks

[primal flint]

lmao

thanks bro 😄

[plush whale]

anytime

most of division 2 community is 18+ so i kinda adapted to being called sir even tho im not even 18

[sturdy pagoda]

Anyone else having problems Sherpaing people on Xbox?

[plush whale]

whats sherpaing?

[sturdy pagoda]

Got the game on Xbox saw a request for help and it wouldn’t let me go help them

[sturdy pagoda]

I have a small keyboard lol the sherpa thing

[plush whale]

u sometimes cant join their group cuz of connection errors

[plush whale]

sherphard help

[sturdy pagoda]

That an Xbox thing?

[plush whale]

u have it on pc too

[sturdy pagoda]

I played during the alpha bro 🤣 I just got it on Xbox to play with my lil brother

[plush whale]

just telling its not xbox only thing

it happened like3 hours ago to me i answered call for backup and got error that i couldnt join

[sturdy pagoda]

Oh I never had a problem on pc

[plush whale]

mostly cuz they have private groups

[sturdy pagoda]

I didn’t even get to hit join 💀

[plush whale]

then he must have stopped calling for backup maybe he got revived by god

[sturdy pagoda]

It just kept asking for help and im smashing the help button

[plush whale]

or maybe he had people join him faster

[pliant juniper]

i cant see the voice channels. theres no option for the voice channels either just the games and heartland

[plush whale]

u have vc in game

[pliant juniper]

did they take the chats out or somethin?

[broken solstice]

yea

[pliant juniper]

why so?

[broken solstice]

what i read is that they werent able to moderate it

so i guess people were being jerks or something. who knows

[sturdy pagoda]

I don’t know if my mic even works on Xbox 🤣

[pliant juniper]

ah gotcha.

[azure lintel]

Hello, I’m looking for some people to play the division 2 whit. I’m pretty new in the game so I can use some help.

Mostly I’m doing summit to get my build set-up. But I’m down to do whatever you want so hook me up and let’s play some division😄

[dusky kiln]

Somebody knows how to activate Golden Bullet in Year 5. I can`t find. It is not like usually.

[tulip ibex]

Go to seasons and then the last tab on the right

[trim palm]

I'm being spawn killed in the DZ

[plush whale]

average dz experience

[trim palm]

Fuck sake lol

[plush whale]

true

thats why i dont play it

[lime fulcrum]

aight 18 more items to reach expertise 25 if devs add to game.

[fast shadow]

Does anyone know, how hazard protection talent scales in descent? I know first lvl it gives 10%, second 5%. does it continue to give only five till the end?

[plush whale]

should be

[fast shadow]

Got it, then it's useless

[plush whale]

i mean only good is dps or skill dmg

[fast shadow]

I was thinking about higher lvls, like 25-30

There is a lot of stuff hazpro would be good for(special ammo, grandes etc)

But since 75% is maximum, it's kinda useless

[wise marten]

hi im locking for 3 peoples for do the team condecorations of all misions

[tender wave]

#lfg-pc

[warped knoll]

Anyone have any good builds that pair well with the backfire exotic?

[surreal orbit]

I believe there is one for backfire on the pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice see the hubs tab…

[full zinc]

Should just stash it tho.

[west zephyr]

what is a good mission to farm ruthless?

[frozen meadow]

You can't get ruthless only merciless

[torpid plume]

Go with 100% hazpro, CHC, CHD build.

[surreal orbit]

Can only craft ruthless, but you can farm merciless anywhere, rifle targeted loot

[frozen meadow]

I woulda just said jtc lol

[warped knoll]

Thanks @torpid plume

[lofty bone]

descent is fun but when the game throws its usual bullshit at you, it gets frustrating

[frozen meadow]

Wdym

[lofty bone]

for example grenadiers spamming grenades

cooldown? never heard of it

[frozen meadow]

??? What floor are you on

[lofty bone]

whats so confusing lmao?

[frozen meadow]

What floor are you on