td2-general-chat

[frosty wadi]

For pve content

[neon falcon]

Pvp nerfs shouldn't apply to pve

Seperate nerfs for seperate modes

I'm bad at typing rn lol

[sharp pike]

Bruh I don’t get what I’m doing rn

I just beat the campaign I think and am on world tier 1? Now I go through all this stuff again trying to defeat black tusk?

[neon falcon]

There's a pinned message in #ask-td2-community about how to progress world tiers, but you can skip that process if you have Warlords dlc and go to NYC

[twin shuttle]

just take the boost to NYC so u can lvl to 40 and reach true endgame

[neon falcon]

If he has Warlords that is

[twin shuttle]

no one should be playing this game without Warlords

[sharp pike]

Warlords good?

I kinda don’t wanna replay the same missions in the same area

[pastel stump]

Would anyone be able to play the game without warlords

[sharp pike]

Lol it’s that vital?

[pastel stump]

I think so

[neon falcon]

The game changes dramatically with warlords

You lock yourself out of a lot without it

Seeing as it's been out for so long

[sharp pike]

If it’s cheap I might get

[pastel stump]

So if you don't have you won't be able to progress

[sharp pike]

What if u just do this black tusk stuff

[neon falcon]

Warlords takes place on a different map, so that doesn't matter

[sharp pike]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying I don’t wanna redo all this stuff in DC I wanna progress more on a diff map

[neon falcon]

You'll still not be able to play the majority of stuff

[neon falcon]

You won't need to redo it lol

[sharp pike]

Hmmm maybe I’ll get it then New York looks cool

[pastel stump]

If you get it though your stuck there until the story line is finish

[sharp pike]

That’s fine

Is the storyline as long as the main games?

[pastel stump]

About 3-4 hours of game play

[sharp pike]

Took me like 25 hrs to do division 2’s storyline but I did like all the side stuff

Oh okay

[pastel stump]

Less if you got a buddy to carry you

[sharp pike]

Bruh it’s pissing me off that the only piece of high end gear I’m missing is those damn knee pad things

[pastel stump]

Which ones and when you get it your going to have to redo all your gear sets from level 30 to level 40

Since level 40 is max level now

[sharp pike]

Oh damn

I only have purple knee pad things and a level 40 green one

Can other players give me stuff I forgot I took a break for a while

[pastel stump]

Yeah

Other players cand drop exotic weapons, regular weapons, and gear

Minus the weapons from raids

If you get it and need someone to run with ya add me and I'll help you as much as I can that is

[sharp pike]

Yeah sure

Can you help me with some of this black tusk stuff in the meanwhile it’s a lot harder than the storyline was lol

[pastel stump]

Blackjack stuff what kinda of stuff

You talking about the invaded missions

But if your on tomorrow afternoon I'll be on tag is what your seeing right now

Or later today since it's 1:11 am for me

[spark barn]

did anyone just get kicked from servers?

[winter hill]

is the regulus still ih raid only?

[hybrid ore]

Yep, requires the Project and several runs of Iron Horse.

[neon falcon]

But it's technically still easier yo get than ravi

Since it's just 2-3 clears

[winter hill]

i thought they added it to dz sadge

[neon falcon]

No

Just the random drop ones

[hybrid ore]

Bighorn, Ravenous, and Eagle Bearer were added to the DZ.
but the drop rates are....not great.

[neon falcon]

If you decide to get wony I'll help carry through if you want

[neon falcon]

Basically if you can find a raid group/legendary team, get them that way

Especially since you can have you stuff stolen from the chopper in dz

So even if they do drop you don't have them till it's extracted

[dense shore]

We're talking 1% aren't we?

[neon falcon]

Gatcha game rates

[marble fulcrum]

haha no.

Try 0.018%

[dense shore]

DAM SON! lol

[timber hull]

countdown super buggy today

[marble fulcrum]

when is it not

[naive sand]

ugh! my zoo mission stuck on story mode

great

[sour vine]

hello noob q the most efficient way for gear farm is countdown ?

[tender wave]

Yes

[cedar seal]

Dudeee.. Just stop updating your game. EVERY TIME you do this shit, my buddies and I hit up crash central. Crash after crash after crash. It's unplayable. Everything was fine before the update. Idk how ya'll keep managing to break your damn game.

[sturdy cape]

it seems like you're speaking to someone that's not here

[round grail]

Works on my machine

[mint wolf]

Hey is there no way to join my team back if i get disconnected during descent?

[broken solstice]

i dont think so

not in the pts anyway. maybe they'll add that before it drops in the real game

[mint wolf]

So they have so much crash and disconnect issues and they can't give us option to join back

[cedar seal]

Just frustrated man.

[mint wolf]

Bruh we can't even go above lvl 6 bcoz someone will crash or disconnect 😑

[cedar seal]

No shit, you're on Xbox.

[broken solstice]

you got a bad draw. that sucks. my game hasnt had crashing issues in over a year

[cedar seal]

Same

But this last maintaince, my entire clan can't even raid without someone crashing.

[sturdy cape]

gotta expect that phase 1 of a PTS will have some issues tho

and be missing some features

[mint wolf]

Ya i guess it's PTS my live game works fine doesn't crash

[cedar seal]

Some get it, some dont

[mint wolf]

Let's hope they add the option to join back please 🥺

[cedar seal]

IF the dev's haven't figured this shit out by now, they need to get new devs. I didn't pay for a half ass stable game.

[viscid cargo]

The reason it isnt fixed is cause its a whole new dev team working on a game that wasnt well made or had an understandable foundation in place

[elfin hazel]

they've figured out whats causing them which is why they made the newer team just to fix them

[cedar seal]

I mean everything was fine b efore this last update

Can't play for 5 minutes before a crash

[elfin hazel]

its been this way since S9/TU15 even worse back then

[broken solstice]

when i had that problem i just quit playing for like 4 months. when i came back the crashes had stopped for no apparent reason

[cedar seal]

As refreshing at it is to read that something is being done, in actuality, it seems like they haven't.

[elfin hazel]

the problem is that the problems are way more deeply rooted than other fixes that get pushed out in .# updates so they're gonna take longer to fix

[cedar seal]

Easy fix. Move the entire game to UE5

[broken solstice]

i dont believe they know the cause(causes) of the crashing problem. and if they do know whats causing the crashes for a lot of people, its something thats prohibitively difficult and labor intensive to fix

[viscid cargo]

My crashing has gotten significantly better, i sometimes crash when booting the game for the first time, but very rarely more

[viscid cargo]

lol youre funny

[cedar seal]

I mean I'd believe what you're saying more drib, if they would have dealt with this last year, or in year 3 when it was happening much more significantly. But today, it just sounds like they're feeding us PR bs just to keep us sane while they scramble a team to figure out why they can't keep their consumers games stable.

[elfin hazel]

I'll take them communicating over them not communicating

[viscid cargo]

The devs are doing their best with what theyve got

[dry shard]

does being in a party increase loot drop rates ?

[elfin hazel]

call it PR bs all you want but its still way better than being left in the dark

[swift storm]

where's pts channel btw

[viscid cargo]

Blame management for the shit state of the game

[cedar seal]

Feels about the same to me.

[viscid cargo]

Indirectly, since more players get loot, and you can share

[elfin hazel]

#557396261662097409 get the pts news role & they will be below #td2-clan-recruitment

[swift storm]

thx

[elfin hazel]

on the S11 special report stream they did say that they've identified whats causing them & considering they talked about the new dedicated team for it during that part it probably is difficult & labor intensive

[cedar seal]

I mean maybe it might be a setting on my end. I can run some tests later, but I shouldn't have to really mess with anything having a high end system. Regardless, I enjoy the game and have too much to be side-lined by crashes.

[viscid cargo]

The game isnt in a great state rn ill agree, but i dont agree with blaming the devs for it. Theyre making due with what theyve got, its managements crap decision making that caused all this

[elfin hazel]

crashing is game related 99.99% of the time so its not hardware based

[cedar seal]

I mean it's the company as a whole that get's the blame.

Considering they addressed it, they know they messed up. Admitting is the first step to change. But we'll see.

[viscid cargo]

Dont blame the devs though, theyre doing the best with what they were given

[cedar seal]

It's on everyone imo, devs included.

[viscid cargo]

Then please do tell what the devs have done wrong, cause i fail to see any reason to fault them for the crashes

[cedar seal]

Do you work there?

[viscid cargo]

Im waiting for your answer first

[cedar seal]

That is my answer.

The question was rhetorical.

[viscid cargo]

Me working there or not doesnt change the fact that i know why its taking time to fix the issues, while im still seeing major stability improvements

So again, how is the current devteam to blame for the crashes etc

[cedar seal]

I'm blaming everyone.

[viscid cargo]

I know

[cedar seal]

So then you can't single out devteam.

[viscid cargo]

Im asking why the devs are getting blame, i genuinely want to know why

[cedar seal]

if it's everyones fault.

that means everyone has a part it in.

all the way down to the janitor

[viscid cargo]

Bro what. Youre collectively blaming a group, i agree with the whole group except the devs, so tf u mean single out

[cedar seal]

I'mma drop it

[viscid cargo]

oooh youre that kind of person

[cedar seal]

You're heated.

[viscid cargo]

No logic just shooting blame because ”bad game fix”

[viscid cargo]

not really, just actually curious as to your reasoning. Seems like there is none though

[cedar seal]

You're digging at my opinion like you want something out of me, and you're not going to get it. Sorry to bust your bubble bro, but move on.

[viscid cargo]

Ill say it again, i dont blame the devs because i dont see a reason to, you are blaming the devs among others, so wanted to know your reasoning as to why you are. But for some reasont youre refusing to, so im assuming you dont have a reason to

[cedar seal]

Because I can. I mean it's been 3-4 years and they're just now addressing something is being done, and yet things were peachy before this last update. To me, that states that they haven't progressed or found the issue at all. That's it's apart of an engine they cannot control, or function adequately enough to prevent crashing from happening on a consistent basis. New team, or not, we don't know what they know, we don't know what's going on inside the doors or behind the desks of the company they work, so the logical reason is to place blame on the company as a whole. You may not like my opinion, but I paid for this game at full price, and to see it STILL crashing after four years, is fucking insane to me. This AAA studio, cannot stop their game from crashing.

[sturdy cape]

there's a pretty distinct line between expressing reasonable frustration with the performance of a game and just angry dev bashing. we know the game, we really don't know what happens behind the closed doors of the dev studio

personally if i was getting tilted by a game, i'd take it as a sign to move on. perhaps keep an ear out for solutions to whatever problem it was. anger is not constructive nor what most of us want to get out of gaming

[cedar seal]

I was constructive 2 years ago when I reported all the issues. lol

My clan was constructive 2 years ago when we tried to fix the issue ourselves so we would stop the consistent crashing during raids. Literally, we ended the result with the crashing just being random and having to "just deal with it."

And yeah, most of the clan moved on, I even left the game for several months. And I'll reiterate this again, Everything was fine up until this last small update.

Feels like we're back at square one again.

[sturdy cape]

mate it is not worth the anger, go find something that puts a smile on your face 🙂

[cedar seal]

Oh I'm not angry. I'm frustrated.

Frustration wants me to give up, anger means I'll punch a wall or something lol.

[sturdy cape]

you get my point tho, right?

[cedar seal]

Yeh.

Loading up my wheel and forza right now 🫡

[sturdy cape]

enjoy

[elfin hazel]

I think that was the most civil convo regarding this problem of the 2 sides I think I've ever seen here ngl

[sturdy cape]

never forget why we game in the first place ey

[dim terrace]

@broken solstice Seems like a "radiator overheating" issue. LOL

[deft perch]

bois is memento in the part of general loot pool

[elfin hazel]

yes

[deft perch]

thamks drib

[dim terrace]

Thought for the day:
Sign of growing up is doing not what you want to do but what you should do.
Fair question:
What exactly does this have to do with Div 2
My answer:
I dunno. You tell me.
😇

[rapid flume]

Growing up is overrated

[sturdy cape]

perhaps it's more about balancing those 2 things, the necessities and the fun

[lethal finch]

is Ridgeway's Pride a part of the general loot pool or do I still need to do Summit?

[elfin hazel]

need to do the summit projects to get it first

[lethal finch]

thank you

[bitter wraith]

Would a full blue umbra build do a lot of damage?

[dim terrace]

Just occured to me that Div 2' s basic premise is "kill" rather than "negotiate and resolve conflict peacefully". Wonder what impact this is having on regular players worldview. Perhaps some psychologist will research this. 🤓

[sturdy cape]

the idea that playing games where people kill things will lead them to recreate that behaviour IRL was debunked decades ago

[dim terrace]

@sturdy cape thanks for that. Kindly cite your sources.

[sturdy cape]

i'm not sufficiently invested in this conversation to bother with that however you're welcome to go and seek your own answers

[dim terrace]

@sturdy cape OK

[tender wave]

Certain journalists have been spouting this line for decades to try and generate public outrage. It never caught on. (Much like the 'playing D&D will teach our kids to be satan-worshippers' line)

given that 90% of PC games are about killing

[sturdy cape]

maybe consider tho that we have no option in-game to find peaceful outcomes. also that if we did it would probably not make for a very fun game

[tender wave]

We make very peaceful outcomes, I think. Just in the Calgacus sense.

[dim terrace]

@sturdy cape I am in the process of having a conversation with ChatGPT who is sufficiently invested in citing sources so I can further my research. 🙂

[round grail]

chatgpt

[vague pecan]

full blue will do ~40% less damage than full red

(assuming same build)

[sturdy cape]

it's come up in other forms of entertainment too. i rewatched Silence of the Lambs recently, Hopkins' role as Hannibal is amazing and very famous. does that mean that loads of people are actually murderous cannibals on some level? no, not at all. it just doesn't work that way. @dim terrace

we're getting pretty off topic for this channel tho so i'll leave it at that

[rapid flume]

Ubisoft is on a downfall

[dim terrace]

@rapid flume Is Downfall a new game Ubisoft is releasing. If so, when is its anticipated release date?

[rapid flume]

It's a live service game. It gets updated as each new buggy game gets published by them.

[dim terrace]

@rapid flume 🙂

[thorn lark]

anyone got a good way to farm the 250 burned black tusks?

[elfin hazel]

just did it at invaded federal bunker

[cosmic pumice]

Firestarter Chem, Burn Sticky, Eclipse Protocol

[elfin hazel]

doing the first part of the mission over & over with ^ as a build

[thorn lark]

thx guys

i will do that

[sturdy cape]

we have 2 weeks to get the 60 points for the league, can just do 3 time trials each week

[cosmic pumice]

Brain goes brrt and wants shiny now

[gleaming meteor]

how supported is division 2? i heard that the support was lacking but now its picking up again?

whats the state of the game and playerbase?

[elfin hazel]

bunch of new content coming down the road + a dlc next year

player base is pretty good

[gilded perch]

lets guess how many times the upcoming updates on the roadmap will delay

[sturdy cape]

why would we do that?

[elfin hazel]

sounds like a waste of energy thinking about something negative that might not even happen

[bitter wraith]

So what about 4 blue 2 red?

[gilded perch]

🙃

[crimson ember]

do you guys think a third raid is happening because we're getting incursions

[sturdy cape]

they didn't mention raids at all in their recent presentation did they? i'm guessing it's a no otherwise they'd have said something

[elfin hazel]

I think given this tweet by palle its just going to be an incursion like in div1 https://twitter.com/Palle_Hoffstein/status/1649435767070924801

[crimson ember]

they didn't but it's wishful thinking

[gleaming meteor]

tbh systems are WAY more bang for your development ressources buck than raids. a raid will be played a few times and is always the same, stuff like the tower or descent have basically infinite replayability. MMOS and ARPGS need to learn that content is never enough for the playerbase, they will breeze through it in a few days and then theres nothing for months. we need SYSTEMS (if they're made well)

[sturdy cape]

and yet we currently have raids and part of the community love em

[elfin hazel]

I mean theres some people here who just do the raids even though they've done them hundreds of time

[gleaming meteor]

not saying theyre bad, just that we dont just need content, we ALSO need systems in live service games. look at new world. new content comes out, players breeze through it and the game is done again. now look at system based games like binding of isaac. players play them forever.

[thorny jetty]

Does Division 2 share non-level progress across characters? e.g. stash content, currency, specialization challenges, watch level etc.

[neat sedge]

I've got around 150 DH raids, raid community is really fun to play with

[rapid flume]

Stash content yes

Dunno about the others

[sturdy cape]

i'd be cautious about using the term 'we' as different players have very different perspectives

[thorny jetty]

I wonder if I could get free apparel keys by making new characters and re-unlocking specializations

[rapid flume]

Currency no I think

[elfin hazel]

your stash, watch level, resources & blueprints carry over

[neat sedge]

resources and bp's are optional

[thorny jetty]

unlocked cosmetics too?

[elfin hazel]

cosmetics too yes

[thorny jetty]

not just the shop stuff but also in-game unlocks I hope

thank you

[sturdy cape]

you were responding to someone that was just 'wishful' that we'd get more raids, nothing wrong with that imo

[rapid flume]

Isn't that how it is with most live service / mmo games

[gleaming meteor]

well made system can please everyone though, its content AND replayability. so i can assume a "we"

[gleaming meteor]

theres definitely nothing wrong with that, i did not want to come across as that

just saying that we need something else TOO

[elfin hazel]

IIRC the spec progress/points for the flamethrower, minigun & rocketlauncher doesn't carry over

[cosmic pumice]

Unfortunately, the systems can also feel repetitive and grindy so... having variety is nice.

[gleaming meteor]

just dont forget that something like a new raid will be fun for a few days while a rogue lite mode like descent will be forever

[elfin hazel]

I mean I still find raids fun when I do them

you're painting with a really large brush here

[rapid flume]

First priority should be to fix the damn pc version

[cosmic pumice]

Aye. It's something new to do. Get to do more content, enjoy some spice in your gameplay.

[gleaming meteor]

absolutely true. look at torghast in WOW. thats a system people didnt want. but theres good system examples, like i said, like binding of isaac, descent, etc.

[elfin hazel]

being worked on ATM

[cosmic pumice]

... wait, aren't they just roguelikes/roguelites?

[gleaming meteor]

im not, im not saying it isnt fun, im saying its only fun for a limited amount of time while systems have more replayability

[gleaming meteor]

whats wrong with it?

[elfin hazel]

lots of crashing

[rapid flume]

Crashing every. Damn. Time.

[gleaming meteor]

exactly, thats what gameplay systems are. a rogue like mode is a system

or you can call it a mode if that confuses you, whatever

[cosmic pumice]

Being real, that just sounds like another gameplay loop which will inevitably get boring/grindy.

[golden otter]

Hey quick one;

I activated a bounty in a random group. Some one kicked off, why would they do that?

[rapid flume]

They should make a paintball game mode

[grizzled mortar]

is the neck bug note?

[gleaming meteor]

BUT it will get boring slower than a single raid

gameplay loops are the way to go in live service

[rapid flume]

Give guns paintball ammo, change the dark, gritty setting to a colorful one

[gleaming meteor]

they just have to be made well

[cosmic pumice]

Not really? They seem to get boring at the same rate. You figure out how to beat the game, then beat it over and over, lol

[crimson ember]

i think you're forgetting that there can be projects or exotics tied to the raid, learning new strats for faster or safer clears, learning different roles and mechanics etc

[gleaming meteor]

but at least its different every time instead of always the same. theyre definitely more replayable

[dim terrace]

Some vetetan Div 2 players take the view that the game has run its course. New players will be enthralled as most vets were until the boredom sets in and frustration rather than excitement characterises their div 2 experience.

[cosmic pumice]

Can't the same argument be made for any content though that has any form of AI for NPCs? What about multiplayer? No two players you meet will be the exact same

[elfin hazel]

those players tend to be the vocal minority

[sturdy cape]

speaking for the community as a whole is a pretty slippery slope. far more relevant to just state your own opinion on something imo

[neat sedge]

anyone else get the gloves drop from Twitch, but get everything but them in game?

[gleaming meteor]

for multiplayer definitely, thats why multiplayer games can live even without new content, like counter strike, thats because its a good SYSTEM which makes new content not necessarily needed. we need systems in live service games, next to content ofc.
ai for npcs is not the same, although it provides a bit of variance, not enough though compared to procedural generation

[crimson ember]

gloves didn't appear ingame for me same

[elfin hazel]

check if you got the firewall gloves again people seem to be getting that instead

[crimson ember]

but 1/2 firewall gloves

[neat sedge]

huh yeah

Firewall gloves Version 1/2 and 2/2

[rapid flume]

Cs is a competitive pvp game

[dim terrace]

@elfin hazel I will take your wird for it - that is because I am a trusting kond of person but a part of me would like evidence to back a statement.🙂

[gleaming meteor]

@cosmic pumicetheres a simple proof for my argument, look at the steamcharts of rogue like games like binding of isaac or enter the gungeon compared to one time play and done story games. rogue like games are played by thousands of people for YEARS even without any new content, because the procedural aspect of it makes it replayable infinitely

[cosmic pumice]

So, going with that... Variance and randomness of people you meet make any gameplay loop interesting. It's why I'd argue that raids are repeatable, despite being "the same content over and over". No two run will ever be the same, and you make your own fun out of it.

[rapid flume]

Division is more of an rpg, kind of apples and oranges

[gleaming meteor]

yes, so? that was my argument

[cosmic pumice]

Story games are meant to be played for the story, not to be repeated?

[sturdy cape]

@gleaming meteor i think your stance is overly reliant on what you believe the community as a whole wants. if you want those things, completely reasonable tho

[cosmic pumice]

Like, maybe if you speedrun the game, sure, but most fun you make of a game is what you do in it.

[gleaming meteor]

that is true. but you know whats better than that? a well made procedural raid mode thats different every time you play it. and that would be a gameplay system. and thats my whole argument. its the same thing but with more replayability

that adds more new stuff every run, aside from your different team

= more replayability

[cosmic pumice]

So, your argument is that you want that? Just want to make sure really, sorry.

[gleaming meteor]

im not talking what people want, im talking what they dont know yet what they want. theme park mmos for example all have the same problem, people are complaining that theres a new expansion and its done after a few weeks. if expansions delivered replayable, procedural systems instead of plain content, thats always the same, people would be able to play it way longer

its my THEORY for whats better for everyone

not saying im definitely right ofc

[cosmic pumice]

ngl, what people want isn't what they need

I want a functioning game :kappa:

[sturdy cape]

stating that you know what people want better than they do is a yikes from me mate

[cosmic pumice]

Jokes aside though, I'm happy with the game as is, and I look forward to see what they bring. I know that what I want is something which takes time and won't realistically happen for any game out there.

[gleaming meteor]

ofc you should give people most of what they want, but not everything, players arent always right. they know what they want but be careful what you wish for because what you WANT might not be what you actually NEED. thats why games never listen to players 100%, a good development team has an artistic vision instead of doing exactly what the "mob" demands

[sturdy cape]

how would you feel if that perspective was directed at you, invalidating your opinions?

[gleaming meteor]

just having an interesting discussion, not trying to tell you guys your opinions are wrong

[sturdy cape]

not us specifically just lots of people out there

[cosmic pumice]

Why include the entire playerbase then? We have our own opinions for what we want. You want a roguelite mode. I want to be able to enjoy what I have now. I don't want someone telling me "You may not know, but you really want this" when I want to tell said person "No, go sell your vacuum to someone else"

[gleaming meteor]

yes. and also that most other people would like it (if executed well)

its a theory obviously, not stating it as a fact

[dim terrace]

Say what? Game publishers know what games are good for me? No way do I accept that premise. 🤨

[gleaming meteor]

like i said, not saying im definitely right and youre wrong
im just searching for a fix to the same old problem every live service game always has, the lack of new content because people breeze through it so fast. i would fix that with a more SYSTEM based approach instead of staying solely on the MORE CONTENT route

replayable, procedural systems

content will always be temporary while systems are permanent

[cosmic pumice]

Isn't a new system more content then?

[gleaming meteor]

it basically is content that multiplies itself if made well 😄

so yes

[cosmic pumice]

So it has the same issue that you're saying it'll fix

[gleaming meteor]

no it hasnt. while a raid, for example, isnt infinitely replayable, a good rogue lite system like binding of isaac IS
you get what i mean?

[cosmic pumice]

No, because neither are infinitely replayable.

[crimson ember]

i think infinite replayability is pretty subjective

[elfin hazel]

^

ror2 is about as replayable for me as the raids are

[vague pecan]

what's your objective? in what content?

[gleaming meteor]

well games are art and need artists with an artistic vision at the top. ofc pure fascism would be bad, but instead of listening to the playerbase 100% maybe just listen to them 80% and realize that you just have more game development insight for your game than most of them

thats what literally every single game ever does

games are democracy, not fascism but also not anarchy

someones at the top, making the decision with their agenda and vision

[cosmic pumice]

Last time I saw a game listen to the community, they removed skill based matchmaking because streamers cried about being against competent people

[crimson ember]

🤨

[sturdy cape]

🤨

[vague pecan]

games are a form of media, the more you keep politics out of them the better

[gleaming meteor]

even if not, they are MORE replayable. thats the whole point

[gleaming meteor]

exactly, thats my point

games have to listen to the playerbase, but not TOO much, because (like in democracy) the majority mob can be kind of dumb tbh

[dim terrace]

@gleaming meteor I think you have a point to make but to me it is not coming across well.

[gleaming meteor]

well then im sorry for that, im not the best with words because im not native

[cosmic pumice]

So you, a small fraction of the community, are trying to argue that a game should have this thing that you want, because you think it'll be better for the community.

[gleaming meteor]

i think people can understand what im trying to say with good faith reading though

[tender wave]

'the community' all want wildly different things though - some want more challenge, some want less. Some want faster progression, some want slower.

[gleaming meteor]

not trying to hurt anyone

[gleaming meteor]

this is way too true

[elfin hazel]

this is treading into #off-topic-discussions territory so I will ask that you continue there

[cosmic pumice]

Fair 'nuff

[gleaming meteor]

im just making suggestions, like everyone, even if mine are different from most other peoples. but tbh the division developers are doing exactly what im talking about so maybe im not that wrong

[sturdy cape]

i think this is going around in circles more than anything else

[thorn lark]

ok, i did the burning black tusks. any tips on the disorientated true sons?

[gleaming meteor]

they delivered systems like the tower and the new descent mode

[cosmic pumice]

Banshee Blast, Eclipse Protocol, maybe Scorpio?

[gleaming meteor]

thats why we need options to please everyone. difficulty settings and a variety of new stuff

its hard but possible to please most people

[gleaming meteor]

our discussion? its exactly about the division 2 and nothing else

[cosmic pumice]

No, it's definitely moving on since it's now about game services as a whole, I'm moving there with it.

[elfin hazel]

its becoming more about gaming in general than actual division 2 things even though the base of the convo was division 2

[gleaming meteor]

nah im only talking about division 2 the whole time, only referencing other games as examples. but whatever, you can just say you want me to shup up openly 😄

[bitter wraith]

Pvp build

[gleaming meteor]

its fine ive made my point

thx everyone for the interesting discussion

[thorn lark]

ty, i will try

[cosmic pumice]

Why did I call it Banshee Blast? It's Banshee Pulse, my bad

[thorn lark]

yeah

[cosmic pumice]

Good luck now!

[vague pecan]

I'm not the best when it comes to PvP builds but if you head to #td2-build-advice there's a pinned spreadsheet with a PvP build guide in the Hub tab that you can get some inspiration from

generally speaking the pvp meta is as many blue cores as possible though

[gleaming meteor]

why do i hear that the division 2 devs kinda stopped supporting the game but are picking it up again now, btw? is that true and what happened?

[thorn lark]

ty

[vague pecan]

and I don't think umbra is that great in PvP in general but might be wrong

[dim terrace]

@vague pecan Really? Art mirrors life. Div 2 is all about a political structure falling about because of the spread of a virus. What follows is political (activities aimed at improving someone's status or increasing power within an organization). 🤓

[elfin hazel]

TU12/S4 was supposed to put the game into life support mode due to massive working on avatar & star wars games but are now working on it again due to seemingly the backlash of it being put into life support mode

[vague pecan]

massive (the original developers) were brought onto new IPs and projects so support for the game effectively ended, but the company's direction is in transition and wanted to expand upon the division IP and TD2 has a passionate community so they formed a new team to keep it moving along

and it helps market the new games in the franchise if the current game is supported and receiving updates

[rapid flume]

Are clothing items dropepd randomly or are they in specific spots?

Cause I want some cool stuff to wear that doesn't involve paying in the store

[elfin hazel]

some are dropped randomly but most are from the store

[vague pecan]

they make very little money from TD2 given it's just a base price barrier to entry

[rapid flume]

Ah ok

[vague pecan]

but yes, the other points definitely

[cosmic pumice]

I'd mention the microtransactions for cosmetics and the seasons. It's not much, but it still does exist and making the game more lively with new stuff might make more people invest into it. Otherwise, I'd agree with this point.

[gleaming meteor]

does that mean division 2 will keep getting supported for the foreseeable future or will they just throw in a mode with replayability, like descent, and leave it again?

[dim terrace]

To have a better understanding of what happened you would hope that Netflix will put out an unbiased documentary.

[vague pecan]

there's a roadmap for the entire year 5 available

so we know it's being supported for at least another year with some larger changes and content updates than we've had in recent years

[gleaming meteor]

well then lets hope for year 6 because if thats not happening we probably also wont get division 3 and that'd be it

[vague pecan]

we probably aren't getting TD3 for a number of years whatever happens

[elfin hazel]

given that theres a new dlc with a new end game at the end of the roadmap (seasons 2.0 according to morten) I'd say a few more years

[vague pecan]

if at all

[gleaming meteor]

how much is the season pass btw? many games only make money off of season passes

[vague pecan]

like £7 iirc

[tender wave]

about a tenner

[broken solstice]

i think like 10 USD

[elfin hazel]

all the important stuff is free the premium one is just cosmetics & keys

[gleaming meteor]

whats seasons 2.0?

[vague pecan]

we don't know yet

[elfin hazel]

we don't know yet

[gleaming meteor]

aight

[elfin hazel]

that was my line........

[gleaming meteor]

i really wonder what it could be

[gleaming meteor]

😄

[vague pecan]

it will likely be a new model for how it works as it's been the same for a few years now. rehashing manhunt targets.

that's a common complaint for vets in the game as there's no variation in the structure

[gleaming meteor]

whats incursion and castle rebuild?

[vague pecan]

incursions were a mission type in TD1 that were effectively "raid-lite"

they are somewhat similar to strongholds but they had raid like mechanics

[broken solstice]

i hope we get to fight off an invasion of the castle settlement at least once while its being rebuilt

[vague pecan]

castle rebuild is in progress right now (one of the biggest changes that came in tu17) as it was effectively a derelict "safe room" but without entities like stashes and vendors

it's being rebuilt visually and mechanically to become in essence a new BOO

[broken solstice]

right

[rapid flume]

Isn't there a new f2p division game coming

[vague pecan]

sorry that was just in response to Steve

[broken solstice]

my mistake

[gleaming meteor]

heartland? its a survival pvevp game

not like division at all sadly
more like tarkov

[vague pecan]

#1001871292330414141

there's a bunch of info around here about it and the stream revealed a lot if you want to watch the vod

[vague pecan]

imagine castle is rebuilt then it gets nuked with the manhunt finale

[broken solstice]

exaaaactly!

that would be gnarly

[rapid flume]

Oh lol

Losing my patience with this game

[celest fable]

so when does tu18 hit?

[elfin hazel]

after this season ends so 9ish weeks

[celest fable]

why the hell are seasons so long?

[elfin hazel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

always been this way

[viscid cargo]

Making the next one takes time

[elfin hazel]

that too^

[celest fable]

i meeeeeeeeeeeeean not really

[viscid cargo]

Go ahead and make the next one then, ill give you a project you dont understand and where most things break when you touch them, and you can get started :)

[celest fable]

they already have most of the assets, all they r doing is switching them around, mix n matching

its not as if they 'develop' brand new shit

[rapid flume]

Wat

Also you do know that you can just reply to my comment rather than tagging me everytime, right? 😂

[viscid cargo]

Except it is, cause the new devteam still hasnt fully got control of the mess that the last team left

[celest fable]

WOW!

[broken solstice]

a lot of the problems with the game are probably so deep in the code that they cant fix it without a prohibitively labor intensive solution

[dim terrace]

Okay

[vague pecan]

have you not seen the entire new game mode and other shit coming in tu18

[sturdy cape]

hey it's just the same 1's and 0's just in a different order, nothing new really

[celest fable]

modern slavery lool

[sturdy cape]

providing some context for a big purge of comments could be useful so that people can learn what's appropriate or not in here

[broken solstice]

its probably talking about the personal dealings of a man who is no longer with us

[sturdy cape]

hearing it from the mod themselves carries more relevance than our speculation imo

[elfin hazel]

I don't know who did it or why but fairly sure it's due to it being completely off topic

[sturdy cape]

can they not clarify?

[broken solstice]

They have no obligation to do that

[sturdy cape]

never said they did

[celest fable]

AH

[sturdy cape]

nobody asked for naming and shaming, wtf lol

[broken solstice]

Sorry. Didn't mean to imply that you did. Not trying to put words in ur mouth. My fault

[cedar seal]

Ok so the game pretty much crashes after a load screen. I verified the files to make sure. Guess there's nothing I cando.

[sturdy cape]

you're all good mate 🙂

[broken solstice]

That's swell 😊

[azure lintel]

I got the ghost mask successfully, waited until next night and tried the ones in west end and it's not working doing jumping jacks in the pool. Any ideas?

[twin shuttle]

didnt they move to the Ubisoft Discord tho? 😛

[broken solstice]

It means you need the gun in your inventory

[sturdy cape]

sounds like the recipe to re-roll an exotic, so you need to own one already

[broken solstice]

If it's stats are missing you won't be able to do it

Oh yeah the purple pts cache

The new ones are in the purple one called pts cache. Not the weapons or gear caches

At the vendor in the BOO

Near the bottom

[azure lintel]

Finally got my first white tusk peice

[sour sparrow]

Heck yeah! Now to do the rest of the Legendaries for the other pieces 😎

[azure lintel]

Yea def

This mantis build helped me with the first but knowing the other areas I’m prob gonna make a eclipse build

[sour sparrow]

Go with Eclipse foam, fire doesn't do enough dmg to warrant using as a CC, whereas foam can help your team take out the stuck enemies easily

[azure lintel]

Can I partner it with pestilence

[sour sparrow]

Unfortunately the Pestilence counts as a debuff not a status effect 😦

I really wish it was a status

[azure lintel]

Ohh ok

[valid lily]

Good morning😄 so I’m new here and I was just wanting to know how I go about possibly getting the eagle bearer for the raid?

[azure lintel]

Go to the raid lfg and ask for help with operation dark hours

[valid lily]

Alrighty, I appreciate you😊

[azure lintel]

Np

[tender wave]

you might find the exotics (especially the st elmos) from the cache don't work properly/are missing stats - if you create a new character in the PTS though then you'll get them all in their inventory

[broken plume]

Run Dark Hours, each boss has a low chance to drop it, the chest after the last boss has the highest chance to drop it but you need 5 keys to open it. Ask your group to get the keys as you go through and also ask if anyone gets the EB but doesn't need it if they can give it to you

That's how I got mine, dropped for someone in the raid and they shared it

[valid lily]

Appreciate this😊

[tawny garden]

Is there knows issues regarding EasyAnti cheat and crashing?

we all know crashing on PC is an ongoing problem for years

But i tried to look more into it and i found windows event logger always says "EasyAntiCheat successfully unloaded" and i googled that

Seems like easyanti cheat often crashes games when it doesnt like some hardware stuff

Things like overclockings are really disliked by EA

[obtuse sequoia]

EasyAnti cheat doesn’t work and they should just change it at this point

[tawny garden]

Turns out if have indeed my System OC'ed (RAM and IF)

so maybe thats the problem all along?

[obtuse sequoia]

probably

[tawny garden]

I never had problems tho. But EasyAnti cheat maybe doesnt like that

[drowsy pewter]

Hi it's 2 days now i see some players with a backpack that got white bow arrows on it, what backpack or skin is that?

[azure lintel]

Tip of the spear?

[hollow bay]

Good morning again, Guy who came back to the game from Year 1 from last night. Question, Im trying to get back into the game so I thought I'd matchmake, but its taking forever. Is there a group activity that match making works on, that isnt high end endgame?

[drowsy pewter]

No i know Tip of the spear its not that one, this one got whit arrows on it looks cool

[azure lintel]

Well idk then

[floral wagon]

started a league activity, the stronghold, crashed immediatgely, loaded back in having lost 6 minutes after another crash on startup, finished at gold with 3 seconds to spare

the crashes just add spice.

[broken plume]

From year 1? Do you have WONY, cause I don't think there's a whole lot of level 30 players running around, even less that are matchmaking

[hollow bay]

I got to endgame in WONY and got a few exotics

So I guess that was year 2 then? I just figured it was year 1

[astral jacinth]

Oh we won’t actually get the twitch drops until May

[void locust]

What I miss story wise

[plush otter]

if you are at lvl 40 endgame, then try matchmaking for heroic content (challenging if countdown), thats where most of the playerbase is going to be, very few will be in the matchmaking pools below that diff

[slate token]

Hey guys I just noticed my darpa lab is still unavailable to play anyone know how to fix?

[frigid crag]

was just in dark zone west and saw 2 players that were racking up a manhunt and they had exactly the same name.... when i killed one the other died at the exact same time... !! can you have the same name as another agent ?? also i wasnt wearing negotiaters dillema...

[hollow bay]

@plush otter Got it, get into Countdown

[rapid flume]

Does division 2 have crossplay?

Between pc and consoles?

[crude meteor]

No

[rapid flume]

Ok

[proud locust]

Is anyone taking notice of backpacks being bugged whenever you switch loadouds??

[pastel stump]

No

[proud locust]

I want to have my red orange watches on my back but for some ridiculous reason it’s bugged and keeps switching to random apparels

Exotic memento bugged with a random apparel

[pastel stump]

Yeah I'm not having that problem

[proud locust]

Weird

[astral jacinth]

Same

I have a random backpack skin on memento

[proud locust]

Guess I’m the only one with the loadouts bugging my apparels

Oh wait nvm im not the only one then

[pastel stump]

The only bug that I run into the most though is the American flag on top of base of operations continously growing for no reason

[astral jacinth]

I blame Massive

[pastel stump]

Not saying it's a bad bug just funny

[low flame]

Massive isn’t even working on this game

They developing avatar or something

[proud locust]

When they added this season it trigger alot of resets on our settings, delete our clan membership, and now the apparels on our gears are bugged

[astral jacinth]

Massive with their coding

[pastel stump]

I don't have really any game play problems at all

[astral jacinth]

What a waste of time and resources

[low flame]

It’s avatar so it’ll sell

[proud locust]

Very waste of time they messed up division2

[low flame]

Sell even more if it’s good and they’re trying to make it good

[astral jacinth]

I won’t buy avatar cause I’ll still play division

[pastel stump]

@proud locust that pending what each player is experiencing

[astral jacinth]

I always have heeded the message of Keener

[proud locust]

The gameplay is fine aside that I had to re-adjust everything on the setting back to we’re it supposed to be

But the apparels are bugged and the memento is still bugged when you enable the fragment armor modification

[pastel stump]

Like I said I haven't experienced that personally with memento backpack

I get the small bugs like floating signs npc heads getting stuck in the walls after they die so they flop around

[umbral pilot]

New exoctic talent now showing and there for not working 😏

In the PTS

[pastel stump]

Ok

[lone valve]

https://twitter.com/BLACKTVSK/status/1649729130127060993?t=10x1-5HJ6mQ6nifQMpZTAA&s=19

Wow the new look capacitor looks amazing

[fair lake]

Meanwhile Dread Edict (without scope but with scoping) 💀

[lone valve]

[pastel stump]

And the newer sniper that came out has a scope but you can't use the scope

[plain trail]

airbender or blue man group

[lone valve]

Smurfs

[plain trail]

Ew

Thats a skip for me

[pastel stump]

I'll prefer the starwars game coming out soon

So is descent only on pc for the time being then

[lone valve]

https://twitter.com/Palle_Hoffstein/status/1649740157719920642?t=GcPgYxtAWLh62oWJhcsdLg&s=19

More exotic redesigns coming

[wet igloo]

That’s a very nice looking capacitor

[lone valve]

Indeed

[crisp lintel]

what do proficiency's do?

[naive sand]

increase ur expertise lv and u can upgrade that gear/weapon

[rustic glade]

I'm kinda sad we'll never see another raid, DH wasn't a bad first try and IH was amazing.

[astral jacinth]

Looking forward to what dlc they have planned

[void parrot]

anyone kown how long the PTS is on fo thanks

[neon falcon]

I'm glad we're getting an incursion though, since so few people get the chance to play raids/don't know where to find groups

[dim terrace]

@gleaming meteor My take on this is the cliche:
Some agents can be pleased most of the time, Most agents can be pleased some of the time, but all agents cannot bd pleased all of the time.

[gleaming meteor]

you could argue that about every single piece of feedback ever

thats not productive

[neon falcon]

Are they trying to bring back a dead argument?

[inland crescent]

well thanx massive!!! i just realized i deleted all my shock resist mods like a week ago ... lol omg ... i never thought i would need em .. yall did me dirty for real hahahaa!!

[crude cave]

Have the devs indicated whether the ninjabike backpack receiving a stealth nerf in pvp after 17.2 was intentional, or if it's bugged?

[inland crescent]

the ninja bike bag should be able to unlock a additional set talent up to 3 but not unlock the set bonus ... why they have it that way is beyond me, kinda makes the 4pc gearset obsolete in a way.

id rather them make it that way and allow us to make full on all exotic builds like division 1

[crude cave]

I disagree, but that's besides the point. Right now, it's not unlocking any 1p brandset bonuses (possibly 2 and 3p as well, only verified w/ 1p atm) in PvP.

You can observe by doing the following: equip a bunch of brandsets that impact your stat sheet with their 1p bonuses (such as providence or ceska) and the ninjabike backpack, scroll over to your stats tab, and hit the "PvP stats" toggle. You'll see your brandset-given stat bonuses (for example, HSD for providence and CHC for ceska) change when they shouldn't be.

[gleaming meteor]

i was surprised too lmao i didnt know people actually read discord public chat history

[spare warren]

Anyone having issues with the Cursed bounty showing "leave mission area to start the takeover bounty?" Never had that issue before when my 1st character did the same bounty.

[azure lintel]

yo

anyone know when u can get the regulus

like ive done everything it just tells me to do the iron horse bosses

[crude cave]

you need to do another fresh clear of IH on normal difficulty

[neon falcon]

4/5 parts drop from bosses and 5th is in the chest

Fresh run then you'll have it

So if you've done it this week you'll need to wait

[surreal orbit]

He seldom is…

[surreal orbit]

There’s only 4 bosses?…..

[neon falcon]

My bad

Mentally added 1 for some reason

[raw gale]

anyone doing any raids?

[marble fulcrum]

Did you get the gold ingot from the morazova chest

[raw gale]

no

last time i did it was early 2022

[neon falcon]

I thought you got that from bank headquarters

[wet igloo]

That’s the trophy

The backpack trophy

[neon falcon]

Wait is that a regulus part then?

I don't remember what they're called

[sinful thicket]

Anyone who has division 2 on steam can tell me how can i acces PTS...please?!

On my ubisoft connect it doesnt show, only the normal game version

[hollow bay]

Quick question from returning player. My and my friends came back and the difficulty increases say we get 0% more exp. Is the difficulty increases just to increase loot?

[neon falcon]

Yeah loot/rolls

[hollow bay]

Alright thats what we thought

[robust geyser]

how do you get alot of true son shd material

?

[celest fable]

start it remoetely

fast travel somewhere

[lean shadow]

Where to leave some PTS feedback?

[neon falcon]

Xbox has access to pts?

[potent condor]

bounties

[lean shadow]

I have a pc

[spare warren]

Remotely?

[celest fable]

Ye

Go safe house activate bounty, travel back to bounty

[spare warren]

No way???? Let me try it thank you

[dense orbit]

no

[clever blade]

People who avoid killing medics are just insufferable

Just took 30 minutes to clear an area because these guys refused to push with me to kill the medic that kept reviving the heavies

[broken plume]

Wow... I didn't think purple items could drop on heroic but I just cleared a Territory Control and sure enough I got a purple

[astral jacinth]

They drop purps gahahahah

The drone medics are sneaky too gotta get those as well

[frail dome]

hey so i just watch a streamer for 20 mins and itll instantly give me the drops?

[astral jacinth]

A few weeks ago I was in Summit on legendary mode. The 2 players I was with died when they rushed into a room that was composed of a medic, a drone medic, a healing station spammer, an explosive drone operator, a sniper, a mini tank operator, 2 warhounds, and a bunch of assault infantry. Needless to say I would have been camping by the door all night if I didn’t target the healers first.

[astral jacinth]

Nope you need to link your Ubisoft account with Twitch first, then claim the items in your inventory. Then you’ll have to wait until the promotion is over in May to actually get the items

[plain trail]

chests don't count as drops

chests always use normal difficulty i believe

only drops from kills count as drops

[broken plume]

Thought the chests from territory control were exempt

[astral jacinth]

Overworld chests on the maps always suck

[azure lintel]

Ik they do

But i was js asking why It didn't dropped but that's the reason so I gotta wait till reset

[frail dome]

@astral jacinth weird how come im seeing people get them? so early

[frozen meadow]

Hi

[kind meadow]

what can you get from iron horse raid?

[frozen meadow]

Regulus

And ravenous

And future+foundry blueprints

And a couple backpack trophies and commendations

[astral jacinth]

You might have to wait up to 48 hours for it to appear in your character inventory

I went to SolidFPS stream, used ad blocker for his twitch ads, used a Chrome extension to automatically claim drops, and muted the volume on his stream. Then I placed him on my second monitor while I did other things around the house for about 3 hours like taking a dump, mowed the lawn, watched some TV shows etc

[hallow rose]

can i optimzine and calibrate the same piece of gear ?

[vague pecan]

yep

[runic venture]

There's a bot advertising crypto scam in the TD1 channel lol any mods around?

[kind meadow]

what is the keybinding for switching shoulders

[azure lintel]

Hey

Anyone know where I can get the key for underground bunker? That the near of White House for echo

[compact mica]

Find someone who already ope it

[tender thunder]

But is there a way to unlock if a friend doesn't have it open

[compact mica]

Yep. But i forgot 😂

[frozen bone]

so the police 686 magnum replica blueprint. It's pure rng doing control points correct

[dry shard]

guys, I'm looking to farm Heartbreaker set gears. If an area is marked for Heartbreaker increased loot allocation, but the main missions in that area has a different loot allocation, e.g. Jefferson Plaza - Hard Wired. Does the increased loot allocation for Heartbreaker comes to effect in that main mission?

[kind meadow]

no only mission loot

[dry shard]

aite got it. Thanks a lot

[kind meadow]

anytime

[zealous shuttle]

Do you guys think a scopio vile opportunistic hunter fury build could be good

[kind meadow]

alot of words you typed there

[smoky stag]

lose the vile and your good to o

[broken plume]

How do people get their expertise up so fricken high? Like I just spent the last hour on the PTS just buying crafting caches and donating all of it to max out as much proficiency levels as I could across all the gear and only stopped cause a buddy wants to play something. An hour to grind out 10 expertise levels by gimicking the system with free resources... how much time would that take in legitimate play time?

[verbal mica]

damn an hour is wild. spend months and im at 13 lol just see it thru big dog. legit no

[broken plume]

I'm at 9 on live... I just wanted to see big numbers on the PTS

[plain trail]

Opportunistic can also be replaced by wicked

Ceska backpack with wicked is what I'd recommend

[elfin hazel]

focusing on solely grinding it alone so countdown+shd watch (which isn't the way its intended its just supposed to be a long overtime thing)

[plain trail]

It's a long term grind like 1k watch level

It's literally designed to keep people playing for a long time

[neon falcon]

People complain a lot about its length but it's designed to be long term

[dim terrace]

Only opens when game first played (Story). It is in a backpack in one of the areas down there. Check each area thoroughly.

[lament mirage]

They should add fsr for division 2

[faint arrow]

can Oh Carol still drop

[elfin hazel]

no only during winter

[tidal compass]

hey guys is dx11 or 12 better? Havent played in a while and forgot which was better

[azure lintel]

👍🏻

[azure lintel]

Ok u 🙂

[azure lintel]

Can u help?

[sterile flint]

Hey anyone want to just play im a returning player and it would be cool to play w someone experienced to help me relearn the best stuff to do and whatnot also just to have someone to play w is always cool

[valid scarab]

Is the Busy Little Bee on the Targeted Loot drop pool?

[blissful iris]

Can Catharsis drop in countdown? I’ve had some ppl tell me it’s not in the targeted loot pool

[plush otter]

for most 12 will give better frametimes and more consistent framerates on almost all setups, but for some it is allot less stable, so try it and see if you dont crash more, then 12 is recommended

[plush otter]

currently the busy little bee needs you to have either the** liberty** crafting blueprint or its reconfiguration blueprint for it to be able to drop from targeted, but atleast that one is easy to get

[plush otter]

depends on if you have gotten one from last season and gotten acces to its blueprint,
most likely you havent if you are farming it i would guess,
and in that case it will not drop from targeted source, you can still try to get it from exotic caches, and you may also get it to drop at full random, but unless you have the blueprint you cant use targeted to farm it

[tender thunder]

I'm still trying to figure out how myself

[plush otter]

and the reason is that its incorrectly only added to the general pool, but it isnt in the targeted pools, same for all the other season 9 exotics still

other way aswell is to try and get it shared to you by others that already have the blueprint, if you have clanmates/buddies to help by farming together

[tender thunder]

I shared some exotics to a friend a few times before since they were one that I already had like the Cyotes mask

[blissful iris]

@plush otter ok. How about the memento backpack? Can I get that from countdown?

[valid scarab]

then I can get it from the targeted loot pool, thank you very much for the clarification ❤️

[foggy cape]

default should be Shift

[hearty crest]

whats better between damage to armour and damage to targets out of cover?

[plush otter]

the memento is fine, and can drop from targeted with any pre rquirments, the full list of exo and if they need a prerequisite can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTJEX5DerCvOj3a_m36TRy1gPBAUvrduOIdmXI9j1Y0MpQk1wIXaZ9KOcPa7HzXzp_N5qGmjDj6yEfL/pubhtml#
under the Exotic Drop Locations and Chances, all the ones that have yellow on the right, need something before they are in targeted pools, green ones are always available in targeted

[plush otter]

dttooc in almost all cases, especially in pve, as dta is in general less active than dttooc when compared in almost every content, and especially on weapon third stat its also compounded by dttooc being 10% vs dta's 6,

[dry shard]

did about 5 cp reset and keep getting hbr backpack. Is it because the targeted loot for the session is only set to backpacks ?

[hybrid ore]

Targeted Loot weighs the drops you get towards that specific type. e.g. Backpacks for Backpacks, Kneepads for Kneepads, etc.

[faint knot]

hey, im a player thinking of buying the game, how alive is the community?

[spare warren]

Didn't work 😪

[rapid flume]

Pc version is broken btw

[faint knot]

wym

unplayable?

[rapid flume]

Frequent crashes

[potent condor]

Aurora lying

It’s playable

Crashes a few times a day but playable

[dense schooner]

Any new players wanna play together?

[deep blaze]

It's a complete toss-up, some people don't crash for weeks, some people can't go like 10-20m without crashing
Also the steps to undertake to potentially make it not crash (as often) can be quite intrusive and not everyone's up for it

[willow briar]

How would I go about on getting the bullet king

Just out of curiosity

[potent condor]

Random drop

[dry shard]

Can you extract attributes from a weapon that you've recalibrated? I've changed one of my ar talents and I can't seem to find the option to extract that particular ar attributes

[twin shuttle]

😏 ☕

[twin shuttle]

whts tht AR lvl???

[dry shard]

lvl 40

[twin shuttle]

show SS of the wep stats

[hybrid ore]

You can't extract things on a gun that you've changed.
Also, extracting things on gun/gear destroys that item.

[twin shuttle]

wht she said^

[faint arrow]

what tech/exotic do u get for beating schaefer

[neon falcon]

Shrapnel trap I think

[hybrid ore]

^
The Schaeffer Manhunt awards the Shrapnel Trap, but you actually get it earlier in the mission.

[faint arrow]

Thx

another question, i played through jefferson manhunt but i didn't get bluescreen y?

[neon falcon]

Bluescreen was a season reward

[faint arrow]

oh

so y it say i got its blueprint when I completed the mission

[hybrid ore]

It seems to be something of a throwback, the Bluescreen was added to the LZ (general) Loot Pool so you can farm it via Targeted Loot (TL) and Exotic Caches all you want

[faint arrow]

dope

one last thing, can you help me get hunter killer, race?

@neon falcon

[ember elbow]

Uhhh guys theres a Sand storm in td2?

[neon falcon]

I had enough of a pain doing that solo, set difficulty to normal and pull up a guide

[faint arrow]

😭

[neon falcon]

There's so much time related stuff that it ends up mostly being waiting

[faint arrow]

yes

unfortunate

[buoyant quest]

hi can anyone help me

when i start division my brightness goes down and idk why how to fix

[balmy cedar]

Farm bounties. Two ways to do it really,

U need to do public executions and save both hostages… they will reward u a bounty …

Some things to note

Farming public executions on normal give a normal difficulty bounty but changing world difficulty will scale the difficulty of the bounty to world difficulty… difficulty of the bounty in this case becomes how many bosses there are with normal being 1 and heroic being 3, I personally like farming on heroic for 3 bosses

Regardless once u set to heroic world difficulty u also scale the amount of tactical assessment u receive for the boss to 1

Diff doesn’t affect credits tho … I just wanted to explain how to maximize fun and rewards from bounties as I find the normal diff on heroic boring af

Otherwise shd watch levels

10 points = 100,000 credits

[pliant sentinel]

nd is so fun to play with

[tender wave]

Might be an hdr thing, my monitor recently randomly started hdr on when I ran the game and I've seen other people having the same issue.

[hybrid ore]

When you start the PTS it mentions brightness too, so it might be somehow related to that.
Expect a patch before long.

[lean shadow]

Mod, how can someone give a feedback about the PTS?

[hybrid ore]

#1098546183753973820 Has a few channels in it, I'm sure the gen-chat would love to hear your feedback.

[lean shadow]

No access to the link

[hybrid ore]

It's 7 channels down from this one, same name.

under "The division 2" heading for the channel group.

[lean shadow]

Done. Thanks

[fiery cloud]

Played the pts it was interesting

[low lily]

So how you would rate the new game mode? 1-10

[fiery cloud]

Only played once solid 6 to start but didn't know what I was doing

I would like to try it in a group of 4

[low lily]

Yeah solo it's much harder, but when you solo you get more exotic talents? Like when i was solo i am sure i saw 2, but when i did with another guy and got to nemesis saw only 1

[fiery cloud]

Once I figure out what I'm doing deffinetly a 8

[low lily]

My only problem that it gets fun after like 40min or so

[fiery cloud]

It's sorta a survival gamemode

[hybrid ore]

Descent is a lot of fun, tried it solo today and even though my RNG for guns was awful (only LMG's and pistols for 2 of the choices), overall I can see myself putting a lot of time in it, assuming that the out-of-mode rewards are solid.

[low lily]

Yeah gun RNG is important 😸😸

[grave geyser]

Ya RNG definitely makes or breaks a run, but descent overall is a good addition

[hybrid ore]

Even with the bad weapon RNG, I was still able to power through most rooms in a few seconds.
headshot stacking is real nice.

[grave geyser]

Game kept giving me allegro with a famas so after 3 or 4 stacks my mag just emptied in 1 second

[low lily]

GC is really good, what's the t3 for GC?

[hybrid ore]

It seems to be fairly linear, so the t2+another t1 should be it

[low lily]

Also having that talent that you don't need to reload with shotgun is fun as hell 😹😹

I mean t2 was 50 damage boost i think, t3 is 75??

Now i wanna play again 😂

[hybrid ore]

My best combo so far has been headshots from cover+hsd+cover hits heal+obliterate on my main.
That thing was a beast.

Cleared a boss room with an m911 in all of 1 minute.

[low lily]

Hsd from cover heal is really string, specially if that's like t3

[hybrid ore]

t2 is 35% armour limit, 20% heal.
i can imagine it gets brutal real fast.

[low lily]

Pretty sure it has t4 mod also atleast

Has anymore made like a sheet where are all tier talents and what they give exactly?

[ember elbow]

Why does my td2 character looks like its tryna be a black tusk tankyboi that failed to be a tankyboi

[foggy cape]

I really wish more cosmetics of enemies were obtainable

some of these helmets look so much better than what we actually get lmao

[plain trail]

Do you think itll be another character strength method

Like expertise or watch

Or do you think itll be just xp or loot

[tired obsidian]

anyone got any advice on where to begin getting higher level gear and such? I’m playing again after years and i skipped to the lvl 30 and finished the campaign and then finished the manhunts that are available. Any guide able to help me decide what to do next?

[buoyant scarab]

Do you have the expansion?

[low lily]

Just farm gear pretty much or do raids

[neon bronze]

I recently had to go through the same problem because a lot of guides on YouTube weren't very clear lol. are you looking for anything specific?

[hybrid ore]

I'm assuming resources and credits, maybe loot too but I highly doubt they'll tie progression to it.

[plain trail]

did they say when the new dlc would drop

[tired obsidian]

yeah i have the expansion. Just looking to get better guns/gear because currently wearing all yellow and i’m not sure how to get exotic items and teal gear (if that’s still the highest rarity)

[buoyant scarab]

Finish the expansion

[hybrid ore]

New DLC looks to be in Season 4 of Year 5, during "Black Diamond".
Season 1 of Year 5 is apparently June, so work from there.

[neon bronze]

so teal gear are gear sets. they're targeted on the map if you hit "r" if you're on PC. Exotics have a low drop rate so I'd put that off till you get somewhat of a build going on

[tender wave]

Yellow (high end) gear is not really any worse than teal (gearsets) or exotics, a good build usually uses a mix

[neon bronze]

^^

the gear sets just offer different bonuses

[plain trail]

huh so 1 year from now ish

[tired obsidian]

ohhhh i see. Increased loot allocation okay

[buoyant scarab]

Have you finished the expansion?@tired obsidian

And got Keeners watch?

[tired obsidian]

yeah, finished it last night and i just now did all the available manhunt targets

[buoyant scarab]

Yeah so the world is your oyster

Do any content u like

If you want to go straight to builds, start running countdown or summit and use targeted loot.

Or you can go to certain missions or areas that have a certain loot you want

[neon bronze]

As you get to be able to do Heroic on your own with a solo build, exotics will drop more often off of your farming routes and on completion of activities, but levelling Keener's watch will be a MASSIVE help in getting to playing on the Heroic map.

[lethal finch]

for Ridgeway's Pride can i get the drop out of any summit box or are they behind specific doors?

[plain trail]

on a scale from 1-10, how good is the meta progression within descent

the roguelite aspect, how is that

[tired obsidian]

kk i’ll just run around and look up builds, thanks so much guys (:

[tender wave]

You've got lots of stuff to farm for (builds in the short term, watch levels and expertise in the long term) but definitely figure out what you enjoy playing - solo, coop or pvp? Open world, summit or missions?

[tender wave]

Each piece is linked to a specific floor range (one every 20 floors, range is listed in the part name) and will drop from any of those big caches you find at the end of floors ending in 3 6 or 9

[neon bronze]

The builds will take time to put together for a new player like us fyi, if you're gonna go to grind spots I recommend starting on Hard or Challenging depending on what you have already

[hybrid ore]

I've not had enough of a chance to really dig into it, but as soon as it launches on live I'm sure we'll get a better idea.

[plain trail]

im curious cuz the longevity of the mode for me will prob tie to that

[tired obsidian]

thanks for all the advice guys (: it’s super helpful i’m currently on hard world tier and will farm for now until i’m ready to bump it up

i’ll also try summit and see how that goes

[tender wave]

At the moment most of the 'permanent' upgrades you can buy don't seem to actually work, but price wise it will take a lot of time to earn enough to buy them all

[neon bronze]

also @tired obsidian if you haven't already, I'd pick up a specialization, a lot of builds on YouTube will use the Gunner spec for solo builds but once you get your specialization and watch more levelled, the content will get slightly easier bc the buffs will add up in the long run.

[tender wave]

Most of them are relatively small upgrades though, like max 20% hsd

[lethal finch]

thank you

[buoyant scarab]

Ill prob play the descent mode a few times. Just seems like an alternative version of summit to me

Which most likely won't hold much interest long term

[neon bronze]

yeah but it helps when you're lacking in recal, weapon and armor stats, etc.

[lean shadow]

Nah, totally different

Nothing ti share with the summit except the "room" envoirement

[tender wave]

It is good fun, certainly more so than summit (better looking too) but currently doesn't offer your actual character much progression so that might reduce its popularity

[buoyant scarab]

Yeah thats what I mean

[lean shadow]

I think It Will, somehow in the official release

[buoyant scarab]

Long term it could be difficult to hold a playerbase

[tender wave]

Although they've said they'll introduce something, we just don't know what yet

[lean shadow]

Like materials, exotic componente, caches...something🤣

[buoyant scarab]

Players want something out of it

[lean shadow]

But i have to Say...i feel improved as a player After using bad weapons and having Little to no armor and dmg

[tender wave]

I thought it should be an xp farm (since it's a simulation and as we don't have any other xp farms now) but the play sessions are so long you'd leave to find a huge mountain of fp caches to open

[fiery cloud]

Hey Kettle, Rivens

Hey played the pts Decent

[tender wave]

Hey Saph, yeah I tried a few runs yesterday. Wasn't very successful but had fun.

[fiery cloud]

Might try it with 4 players and see what happens

[tender wave]

Yeah I've only tried solo so far

[lime fulcrum]

whats a problem of countdown lobby gets double loading screen and all people leave 😐

[fiery cloud]

They might ne getting kick from the game

[lime fulcrum]

gotcha tnx.

idk why region switches to asia in countdown all time for me even it shows europe

and again double loading aaaand people left.

[tender wave]

Lots of people have been complaining recently that countdown keeps bugging out

[lime fulcrum]

i started the game 26mins ago from that moment until now people just leave 😂

[wicked rock]

get used to it cause thats the current state of countdown 😅 gotta pray for a working lobby

[gritty current]

I play The Division 2 on Geforce Now, anyone know how can I play the PTS with cloud gaming?

[rigid geyser]

PTS is only available on PC. Geforce Now doesn't have PTS version of the division 2 in it's library, so you won't be able to play it. You have to download the PTS directly from Ubisoft Connect to your PC.

A lot of console players want to play PTS too, but I've read somewhere that it's very difficult to make it happen on consoles. Only TD2 beta was available on all platforms.

[stoic arch]

@low gulch can you give me password for pts please?

[tender wave]

dude, there's no password and the #rules explicitly state you're not allowed to ping devs

just google 'division 2 install pts' if you're struggling

[cedar seal]

So will there be no loot or rewards for the decent mode?

I'm confused

[tender wave]

there will be something but not announced/implemented yet

I suspect the main reason to play it will be 'fun' - lots of longertime players don't really need to grind for gear, xp or anything anyway

[cedar seal]

I feel that. But I also think it's be a good opportunity to introduce some new sub skills as a reward, or something along those lines

May not necessarily need more loot, but new ways to play would be appreciated

The games plethora of available builds is pretty vast, so I'd love to see them build in that.

Also some more gear paints and weapon paints. I have like 80 loot boxes that are prolly filled with duplicates lol

[foggy cape]

Year 5 should be the time to add new cosmetics

[thorn thunder]

Y’all being in DC has been so fun just remembering the streets of division compared to irl

[cedar seal]

I feel that

[stoic arch]

where i can find password for division 2 pts?

[cedar seal]

There is no password

Just download it, it's free. Google how to do it.

[stoic arch]

i download the game and i dont have the pts

[cedar seal]

Everyone has it

[elfin hazel]

should be in the my games section of your ubisoft connect

[cedar seal]

Sup drib 🫡

[elfin hazel]

people have been reporting that they don't have it

[elfin hazel]

I feel hungry but I also don't

[cedar seal]

Lol, in my language, that means coffee.

[prisma zealot]

Hey for catharsis, my only chance is through exotic caches?, didn’t play season 10 tho

[elfin hazel]

mask targeted loot as well

[cedar seal]

Also consider grouping up for weekly exotic caches, bc you can share that. More chances to find what you need.

[tropic compass]

Lol took me an hour and half to redownload pts but only downloaded 25gb of normal game within an hour

[prisma zealot]

Been doing this, 4 coyotes - think a read somewhere that you need the blueprint in order to get it on targeted loot

[foggy cape]

I get the feeling it has to deal with buying it through Steam

[stoic arch]

yes i have it! thank you drib

[elfin hazel]

thats my thoughts as div1 has a pts version on steam

[foggy cape]

I bought Div 2 through steam and I don't have a PTS under my games, so thats a rip

[cedar seal]

What about linking accounts?

[stoic arch]

that is interesting. i have pts on my laptop but not on my desktop 🙂

[foggy cape]

No dice big dog, my account was linked before I bought Div 2

[hollow bay]

Good morning! Is there some speedy way to level up the season pass?

I read it has an exotic at 85

[cedar seal]

I mean you have plenty of time

[hollow bay]

Ooo it has 8 weeks, I kept seeing the 2 weeks, but thats next target

[azure lintel]

🙂🥲

[verbal mica]

one day console will have pts. 🥲 ( jk )

[lament mirage]

U aren’t missing much tho

[amber vigil]

After all the announcements, including a new paid DLC, no chance we'll get cross-play or at least cross-save, right?

[sturdy cape]

if it wasn't mentioned in their plans for the next year it seems very unlikely

[lament mirage]

Likely ain’t happening due to td2 being a old game n outdated in some areas

[odd coral]

sorry, new here- what does IH mean in the LFG channel?

[lament mirage]

Although warframe just got it not long ago has been out for a decade

[lament mirage]

Iron horse

[sturdy cape]

Iron Horse, one of the raids

[odd coral]

ah ok

tysm

[verbal mica]

i dont want crossplay in anygame unless i have an option to turn it off or on.

[mint plaza]

is the new exotic ar any good

[broken solstice]

yeah, mostly just for the fact that the attachments it comes with give you 20% chc 20% chd 20% weapon handling and a 30 round mag extension for a total of 70 rounds. you can also re roll the third attribute. i got dttooc on mine

[amber vigil]

Xbox and PS have the option to turn off crossplay for any game. The game doesn't need to offer the option to disable crossplay because you can do it on the console settings

[hybrid ore]

Either way, div2 is never getting crossplay so there's no need to worry about it.

[low lily]

😂

[hybrid ore]

technically we did have it between Stadia and PC, but Stadia went the way of the dodo.

[amber vigil]

I know. I'd be so happy with cross-save though, to allow people to transfer their progress to other platforms. But I know it won't happen, sadly

[hybrid ore]

It would be nice, but it's important to remember that div2 launched in very early 2019, and a game developed before then was....unlikely to have that.

[sturdy cape]

warframe's been out for about a decade and they added crossplay in the last year, it's not unheard of

[hybrid ore]

As someone who's been playing WF for almost that long now: I'm honestly surprised the game itself didn't catch fire when they announced that.

[amber vigil]

True. It's a business decision. R6 was released in 2016 and Ubi implemented cross-save and cross-play (between consoles). It's not about technical difficulties but about a business decision, about the costs / benefits of doing it for TD2

[hybrid ore]

I'm reading that crosssave and crossplay were only added to siege late last year.

December 6th, 2022, to be specific.

[amber vigil]

Yep, that's true

Crosssave among PC and consoles and crossplay among consoles.

[hybrid ore]

If they decide to change their mind on the decision, it could still be in the works.
It seems more likely the decision to make it work on Siege first could be due to other factors outside of purely financial. What with the div team being massively (pun intended) shaken up a while back.

[sturdy cape]

@hybrid ore speaking of warframe, interesting that both Div 2 and WF ended up coming out with rogue-lite game modes about the same time

[hybrid ore]

Actually that part doesn't shock me at all. Warframe likes to see what other studios are doing and trying it themselves.
aka: k-drives, open worlds, archwing, shawzin, etc.

We used to make the joke that Steve was a dog chasing cars, and as soon as a shiny one came along he'd sprint after a different one.

aka: weapon crafting.

buuuut about div2: I'd like cross-save, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[sturdy cape]

yeah i was just referring to the timing since the genre/game-mode is nothing new generally

[hybrid ore]

It got a resurgence a little while ago, even Far Cry added one.

[thick egret]

Question about the drops, i only got the first one, when i watch another streamer, the progress doesnt register

[hybrid ore]

It's kinda glitchy, took me many, many hours for them to register.
but they eventually did, have them ingame now.

Just keep the stream going and refreshing every now and then. After a while your Inventory page wakes up.

[red tapir]

anyone had the bug where u get sent to summit floor 100??

[frozen meadow]

huh?

[modest lintel]

shhh

[red tapir]

I joined someone else's and when i went back to mine its suddenly 100 even tho his was 30

[verbal mica]

not cod mw2 big dog. u can do it in console settings but it will not allow you to find matches . also on mw2 only sony can turn of crossplay for the game and be fine

[oblique stratus]

Morning

[amber vigil]

Why are calling me "big dog"? Wtf kid, get some politeness.

If you can't find matches on CoD, that's a different issue. But you are actually disabling cross-play. If you can't find matches it's because disabling cross-play worked, it just so happens that few people are doing the same so you can't find the matches.

[hearty crest]

should i farm countdown on challenging or heroic?

[buoyant scarab]

Challenging is faster but gives lower rolls.
Heroic is longer but has the potential to drop more max rolls

[thick egret]

Which gives more coins?

[sturdy cape]

heroic countdown gives more currency, higher chance of failure tho

[elfin halo]

Incursion is coming to DV2

[neon falcon]

MW2 doesn't even let you look for a match on xbox if you turn off crossplay

[thick egret]

Yeah, everybody rushes on extraction and team wipe

[bitter trellis]

Hey i saw the post about cross game rewards and i was wondering if theres going to be any changes for Cross Progression? I switched to PC and would love to transfer my character

[sturdy cape]

@bitter trellis they haven't said anything about working towards that, seems very unlikely

[open iris]

anybody wanna team up and do missions on D2?

[bitter trellis]

aw thats a shame im pretty attached to my current character :/

[sturdy cape]

try the LFG channels @open iris

[desert chasm]

Game winds me up why don’t they put it so when u dc in countdown it puts u back in that game 🤦‍♂️

[frozen meadow]

would cause some exploit im sure

oh and people leaving until the end

[desert chasm]

Probs would wouldn’t it 😂😂😂

We like exploits tho 👀

[frozen meadow]

i dont

[sturdy cape]

nor do i

[verbal mica]

lmao you good?

[clever blade]

👀 🍿

[verbal mica]

lesgetiti 😈

[graceful valve]

Games were cross platform before that

Only reason why div 2 ain’t getting cross platform after all these years is because it wouldn’t make them more money

[verbal mica]

dang

i honestly would be cool if i buy a game at a price of lets say $90 ( it’s already $70 which is WILD mem we used to get em for $50 ) i would be cool wit that price if im allowed to redownload on any platform after. like xbox is doing now games are “ cross gen “ u pay the extra $10 and u can download it on the next gen console. :/ but thats not even worth it. it should be universal fr. they be trolling us these days

[pulsar mural]

Getting back into the game after a 2 plus year break and wanted to know the best way to farm the capacitor? Looking to use it on skill build when I play solo.

[verbal mica]

exotic caches

do countdown and u will earn credits to purchase them

it will drop

or do summit challenge

[tender wave]

if you haven't done it already then the summit challenge is quick & easy way to get it, with a bit of thought you can smash out 5 challenges in <10 floors

[verbal mica]

yes sorry i just double checked u have to do summit challenges .

[sturdy cape]

the new capacitor skin that's on the PTS looks awesome btw

[clear adder]

What makes it so good?

[amber vigil]

I'm not a fan, but I can understand the appeal. It's just a matter of personal taste

[last igloo]

does anyone know when the update fully releases?

[golden otter]

Quick one, best way to get the capacitor ?

[left field]

summit challenges if it's your first time

[golden otter]

Awesome, yeah I don't have one. Do I have to set targeted loot to AR for it ?

[tender wave]

next season, June sometime I believe

or late May maybe

[last igloo]

cheers man

[tender wave]

no, just do 5 summit challenges in a single run (should take <10 floors if you look through them first and pick intelligently)

[amber vigil]

Yes, regarding the new DLC (with the new missions) they said the middle or 2nd part of that upcoming season, if I remember correctly

[hearty crest]

is the Catharsis already in the general loot pool?

[clear blade]

I've got a question, I finished the DLC and im at level 3 on Shade, what should I do now? I'm so overwhelmed by what there is now

[amber vigil]

Nvm, my bad, the Story DLC will come only in Season 4 of Y5

[tender wave]

Put together a small collection of useful builds - take a look at the spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice then as soon as you reasonably can move the difficulty up to Challenging for help farming (means you won't get any more purple items).

along the way, fill up your recalibration and blueprint libraries

[clear blade]

I'm replaying missions on heroic with random people, been getting legendaries and green rarity armor

Even the exotic weapons

So I guess Im doing it right already?

[tender wave]

you're likely getting carried if you're doing it in groups without a strong build of your own

but yeah, collect good stuff, but do make use of suggested builds, just because something has maxed stats doesn't mean it's a good fit for the way you play

[clear blade]

Yeah I know, but I still contribute best way I can

[tender wave]

eg, don't use green items (gearsets) unless you're using all 4 of the same set along with a couple of other non-set items, or you're just wasting stat slots

likewise not all exotics are necessarily the best choice, they tend to have specific functions that work well in specific builds only

[clear blade]

That's true, I've just been mixing gear to see differences and all

Im also trying to get more mods for damage

[tender wave]

take a look at the spreadsheet I mentioned, there's some good builds listed in there that will give you an idea of what to work towards, what kind of combinations of stats and talents work well together

[clear blade]

In #td2-build-advice ?

[tender wave]

some of the ways in which div2 calculates damage, for instance, aren't obvious to the initial observer

yeah, linked in the pinned messages there

[clear blade]

Alrighty, thank youu

[fiery cloud]

Hey Eevee, Kettle

[potent condor]

Me

[modest lintel]

the game is not dead, feel free to play different game

[void shuttle]

it's dead wym

[plain trail]

yeah it's dead

you should uninstall and go play league of legends

and go post your complaints in that discord/subreddit

[potent condor]

the pc community is still active

if it's dead you wouldn't have 3 discord servers

and an active reddit

[modest lintel]

why u here? go play non-dead game then

[potent condor]

👀

[azure lintel]

Hi guys

anyone tryna help me with something

graphics issue, or more like color issue

[potent condor]

explain said issue

[marble vale]

anyone know the best way to to destroy basilisk Armor on Roosevelt for the field upgrade challenge ?

[celest fable]

black colors be crushin i guess lol?

[azure lintel]

Well everythings almost grey, as soon as i launch the game its like everything loses 80% color

[celest fable]

oof

[broken plume]

Double Barrel Shotgun with Bullet King talent... sounds fun unless you remember the Double Barrel shotgun kicks like a mule