#td2-general-chat

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deep blaze
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I personally think that what you say is right everyone involved here knows what it does it's just our added nuance about it is because it's already common for someone to see "oh +15% weapon damage, so that must mean I'm doing 15% more damage at the target range right?"

gilded perch
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hum...why so complicated, apple i think you forgot a think
the orange number are also scale by white number

44.2x1.3 = 57.46
44.2x(1.3+0.21) = 66.742

so proved 130% wd are addition with expertise wd

tender wave
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Anyone who isn't familiar with the calculation process who has been reading this is now either super clear or super confused, the same conversation has been going on for about an hour now!

deep blaze
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hey we have nothing to do half the game is broken! >:c
not saying you're wrong though

sturdy cape
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@plush otter the difference here is context, not semantics. you're talking about different things

sonic oar
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the gain is of course going to be smaller percentage wise if you are including it in an all offensive build, even in my original statement I am merely saying how to get the % value to be multiplied off from, nothing about how much % gain you will be getting out of it

plush otter
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everything scales of base though, that is only part of the story, it is additive to a already existing pool, its the same as saying both glass and chd scale of base, but one is going to not be at full strengt after its second source, its not that they scale of base that is the important part, its what they are or arent adding into

deep blaze
# gilded perch hum...why so complicated, apple i think you forgot a think the orange number are...

I don't even know what's going on here tbh, the orange number is indeed how much the white is increased by with WD so I just went to calculate how much WD % that is and that's taken by calculating how much % the white is increased by if we add the orange number, and that gives the WD% so we can add the 21% to it before using it to multiply the white number for the new orange/resulting number with the expertise included in the WD

sturdy cape
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@plush otter they were only ever talking about part of the story, that's what you seem to be missing

sonic oar
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yea, I am not going into getting what your final shooting range number is, I am just talking about the net value gain from expertise upgrade.

heavy prism
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Just to clear up any confusion, I'm sure people talking the same thing over each other,
The formula for final bullet damage is Damage = Base WD * (1+AWD+SWD+DWD) * (1+TWD) * (1+CHD+HSD) * (1+DTH) * (1+DTA) * (1+DTTOOC) * (1+Amp1) * (1+Amp2)...

The WD increase from expertise is counted as AWD/SWD, additive to other sources of AWD you may have from red cores, core attributes, specialisation perks etc. The SUM of this is then multiplied to the BASE value, which everything is actually multiplicative to base, but damage from the same category is additive to OTHER SOURCES of itself.

If you have 100% AWD, base damage of FAMAS is 44191, it would be 44191*(1+121%) instead of 44191*(1+100%)*(1+21%)

gilded perch
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i mean you making math become complicated
21% on the base 44.2k
130% are also on the base 44.2k
then

total number = white( 0.21) + white(1.3)
combine it
= white(0.21 + 1.3)

everything done, simple mathematic

sonic oar
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getting the 0.21 to multiplied off the white is what I am getting at indeed, how it ended up interacting with the rest of the equation is never mentioned in my statement and not that one I am willing to get into

deep blaze
# sonic oar yea, I am not going into getting what your final shooting range number is, I am ...

maybe confusion there stemmed from the "net gain" part because from the meaning of net gains that means you're looking at how much the end resulting difference is gained by that, so net gain of expertise means, if I do a 1.2M hit against a target how much of that 1.2M is caused by expertise which could be say 80k, so your net gain from expertise is 80k DPS here
seeing how net part of "net gain" is literally describing the end resultant value after accounting for everything else going on

unborn lion
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anyone else game crashes when they open the map or is it just me?

hollow vigil
warped bramble
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everyone

heavy prism
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There's no need at all to argue over semantics, just read last part of what I wrote and that's how expertise boosts your damage

unborn lion
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oh alr

warped bramble
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the right upper side is off limits now

sonic oar
timber hatch
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Stellar I don't think your following. You can't just ignore the rest of the equation since the other factors matter

deep blaze
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yea I'm just saying someone reading it might be confused because that's not what net gain means that's why I had a look at least but I get the idea
it's not the "net gain of expertise" that you get there but rather the "what's the number expertise adds here expressed in absolute damage number at this first stage of the net damage calculation"

timber hatch
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The other factors are why it's not a straight 21% increase, it's not because the base weapon number is low

sonic oar
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like i said, I am merely trying to share how to translate the expertise upgrade to a number value

sturdy cape
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another person steps up to the plate that doesn't understand context lol

timber hatch
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Right, but the way your saying it is just incorrect

sonic oar
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then which statement am I incorrect now?

sturdy cape
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Stellar is fine, others are having issues understanding context

sonic oar
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I have no intention to get into how worth it is, for me I understand the expertise upgrade is based off white base damage in options.

timber hatch
plush otter
# sonic oar getting the 0.21 to multiplied off the white is what I am getting at indeed, how...

ok, maybe i went to fast on that rant, but it was just of the feeling that again, mostly in words but not the calc, saying it scales of base, while factually correct, leaves out the more important part of what, if any, it is adding to, as to me that statement came of like this to use a analogy,
that WD is multiplicative to all others stats, and only saying that,
saying it just like that without saying its additive from all its sources, is leaving out the more important part to me

gilded perch
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[ ( new - old) / (old) ] x100% = Value

(old) inverse proportional (Value)

deep blaze
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I still hear my economics teacher's voice every time saying that out loud 2398123 times

sonic oar
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again I am not getting into its interaction with other weapon damage and multipliers, my original statement is just to let one figure out how to get your expertise upgrade % in numerical form.

timber hatch
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You have to

sturdy cape
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you do not

plush otter
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also reading back what i wrote i see a bunch of * 's that should have been +'s, so i may have also caused my own confusion in my fast fat finger typing

sonic oar
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if you want to get into the final shooting range numbers I am fully aware there are many who have shared the details formulas and what not.

deep blaze
# sonic oar again I am not getting into its interaction with other weapon damage and multipl...

I think that's fair if they know you mean like say
look at your white base number, it's 44.2k, so your expertise is like 8.6k part of that or something, before we start doing anything else with it
super shortened up without other nuances

but then it already goes wrong with someone not knowing that you don't add it to the 44.2k and then do everything else on top, but that you add that 8.6k to the other WD bonusses first, and also a lot of people might not even know you can show the base number like that in white and just see their regular number being like 100k or something and think okay so it's 21% of that 100k then? or is it like 8.6k compared to 100k, that's so little...

and so on, there's so many branches of confusion and miscalculation potential here unless someone knows very exactly how it all works
so adding the nuance/context etc is still imo important for others at the least to help illustrate what the otherwise easily mistaken sentence (or rather, one you can read in multiple ways) means exactly here

sonic oar
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for me, I am just trying to answer if one wants to know how much is 10% expertise increase on a Carbine 7 in numerical form

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and the way I understand is that it is 10% multiplied off the white number after you click Show Base Damage in options, what you want to do with the final number is up to you.

gilded perch
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...your weapon damage bigger
the increase percentage you gain from expertise 0.21 smaller

heavy prism
sonic oar
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Sure, the discussion might have included those, but I have no intention of going into those

deep blaze
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(to the part of "one wants to know how much is 10% expertise increase on a Carbine 7 in numerical form")

problem there is that if you say that I'd be inclined to think you're essentially asking "how much damage is that 10% expertise adding for me" and thus I'd be thinking of the net gain of expertise, which for example if you're doing 1.2M hits with it would be around 90k or something (21% expertise here), the net gain contribution of expertise, as a random example with a specific setup, and important for them to know what part of the calculation it's part of and what (variable) meaning it has

sonic oar
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i am just providing the method for you to get the % upgrade in numerical form

sturdy cape
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@sonic oar is your pic from the movie Arrival?

sonic oar
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@sturdy cape yeah

heavy prism
sturdy cape
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awesome movie 👍

deep blaze
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I kind of want to say everyone knowing what you're talking about knows what you mean, but anyone not involved in this convo now would potentially misread what you mean there easily (or even assume things about it perhaps)

sonic oar
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that's all I stated in the beginning

heavy prism
sonic oar
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and it turned into full blown discussion about the diminishing returns of damage value and what not which I did not even get into

timber hatch
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That's how the devs described it, but it's not how it works. To get the effect it's having you really don't need to look at the base damage at all.

It's simply [weapon damage including exp%]/[weapon damage without exp%]. That's the effect it's having to your damage in it's simplist form.

heavy prism
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But it's misleading because even if you run 6 blues there would still be sources of AWD from core attributes/spec

sonic oar
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Yeah, that's the overall % effect for your case, and again my original statement is for one to figure out the numeric gain in weapon stats page

deep blaze
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Ya I feel like it's not really a realistic way of looking at its contribution for most part as in practical sense it'll be different and variable contribution levels

sturdy cape
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@sonic oar well i'm out of patience for this uphill battle, i tried though lol. have a good one div2salute

timber hatch
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The original statement was not correct though, that's the whole point

gilded perch
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[[ (1 + weapon damage + expertise) - (1 + weapon damage) ] / (1 + weapon damage) ] x 100%
= how many percentage you gain from expertise

just fill in number then calculate
i think it is simple mathematic, and you guys keep making it complicated.........

deep blaze
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if we look at very specifically "the numeric gain in weapon stats page" that's like more concrete and has context so someone knows more what you mean I think (but they can perhaps misunderstand and assume a lot of other things off the original statement without more explicit context)

sonic oar
plush otter
pseudo lark
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soo, the game keeps crashing when opening your map and moving around. they really dont want us to play huh?

sonic oar
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Which original statement this time ? @timber hatch

deep blaze
timber hatch
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This one

pseudo lark
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quite funny tbh

heavy prism
sonic oar
soft knoll
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One of the many reasons im glad I have moved to console over the years, rarely have the same game breaking issues on the PS4/PS5 version as I do with the PC.

heavy prism
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There might be TWD in play too but I can't remember

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So I would rather just ignore the orange completely

deep blaze
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I feel like I see how that statement is correct when read in some way but it's just like prone to interpretations and whatnot that might paint the wrong picture easily in someone's mind, that's my opinion on that, and a lot of discussions here are to help people understand more about the game and explain why etc

sonic oar
sonic oar
heavy prism
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It's just a number to build on

cloud sage
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Are you still arguing about it? Expertise or any other percentage gain to weapon damage is a multiplier to base damage. That's it isn't it?

plush otter
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and also its also while it is a 21% of the white value, its literally in the orange value, as seeing it in there and saying it like that, means you can come to the conclusion its part of wd, otherwise its reads as a separate multiplier

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was the point i didnt make well at the start

sonic oar
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surely there's no need for me to lay down my assumptions or context even if I am talking about a small portion of a bigger thing is it?

heavy prism
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I don't know what's going on tbf, it's too exhausting to try and understand what people are saying through vague words

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If anyone wanna know how expertise boosts your damage just read the last para of long post

cloud sage
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Btw, is it the case that you can't reset the global map and control points until you cleared the black tusk invasion?

deep blaze
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I still value explaining it in a way where it's emphasised that it's simply another source of weapon damage and/or that it's the same thing as weapon damage (that you see on red cores, something most people are exposed to from the beginning) and emphasising how it adds up with that before multiplying damage, that indirectly helps people understand the multi-step process that's happening to get the end resulting damage they see

heavy prism
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It's 2 lines and it cannot get clearer to a new player

sonic oar
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For me knowing where the net number increase is calculated off allows me to personally conclude that they are not significantly worth over other means of calibration/optimization

cloud sage
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Some of you discuss this like the majority of the players lack insight into some sort of higher mathematics and are lucky you can explain it.

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This is not the case. It's very simple to most and we get it.

sonic oar
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and that was what I originally want to state, given some players might just look at the stats page and expect the % gain is multiplied after everything has been included and think it's a very worthwhile upgrade to gun for utilizing quite a bit of resources.

timber hatch
# sonic oar it's significant for you or I should not use the word base?

Your replying to apple who's saying he's getting 8.4% damage from the 21% exp. Saying the reason for that is because of base damage it's the reason for the lower number, the reason it's lower is because of other weapon damage sources. If you had theoretically 0 other weapon damage then it would be a straight 21% increase to the orange (not white base) number.

deep blaze
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I think issue with that is, like technically every other type of damage increase in the damage calculation is "scaled off base weapon value" so that doesn't say too much, like glass cannon is also a 25% amp on that say white 44.2k figure it just all comes together with all the other multiplications, but it makes a difference if you clump it together with others of the similar type or not which is an important distinction (as that distinction is what allows you to say whether it straight up increases your total damage output by x% or whether it's more complicated and first adds to other numbers before doing anything)
So saying how "it scales off the base number" isn't really adding a lot of value

sonic oar
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When i made the statement he was still typing out what he wrote there.

plush otter
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so here, ill try one last thing to show what i mean and then yeah, this has gone on too long, would you agree that the second line is a better way of saying it and will not lead to people misunderstanding it as a separate multiplier?
1 You can turn on show base damage in options for weapon, the white number value is the % increase scaled off on
2 You can turn on show base damage in options for weapon, the white number value is the % increase scaled off on, and its additive to the orange value
as to me, that last added part on 2 is more important than the rest

heavy prism
sturdy cape
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i think some people like telling others they are wrong a little too much, and sometimes don't read clearly enough before jumping to conclusions

sonic oar
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of course i am aware that the % effect Apple had from his 21% increase is due to inclusion of other weapon damage source @timber hatch . I did not specifically make my statement there about it.

fervent glacier
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Just logged into game - cant change map difficulty - anyone else having this problem?

soft knoll
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Not to disrupt the convo.. but might I suggest this go to Build advice? #td2-build-advice

Seems this is getting deeper than a normal general conversation ya know?

heavy prism
sonic oar
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@plush otter sure feel free to add on top of what my statement is missing. Apology if I do not provide a full picture

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maybe one would have asked where would the % increase goes to but I might not be bothered to reply after.

limpid kindle
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Let me guess, season 11 will be on the next week

plush otter
pseudo lark
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i really cant make this shit up anymore

deep blaze
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perhaps safe to say that every damage increase is either

  1. this increase is "scaled off the base damage number"
    or
  2. this increase is "scaled off the base damage number", but you add it together with others in this same category
    reading it as the first comes across as you're describing say glass cannon which is a separate amp vs something that's an amp but to get that you need to combine all of the numbers in the same category

so just saying it "scales off the base number" feels...incomplete?
that's my last bit about it too, that's how I'd think the two different ways of looking at it might conflict, I'll happily sleep with that as my headcanon later and never think about it again after

sonic oar
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how the increase interacts with other sources can of course be elaborated, but it wasn't what I am trying to state originally ( I just want to inform where you can calculate the + - value from)

deep blaze
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so anyway is the directive selection crashing for anyone else when they choose global difficulty for the top right corner of the teleporting back to NYC
don't think anyone mentioned it yet

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they tweeted 2h ago that they're "looking into it" 👀👀👀👀 oogling has commenced

plush otter
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also, other times we had no active season, we still had world diff button and directives right?

wild lava
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Any other players getting consistent crashes when hovering over countdown/summit? Figured its season tied but wondering if others are experiencing

deep blaze
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I have no experience with other seasons but I reckon they put and end time of the current global difficulty stuff (to potentially accommodate changing directives with new season) but forgot about it when they delayed next season start this time
and before they thought about it so made sure one part of that system of one season didn't end/end up with a gap before next season

plush otter
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yeah, but he have had seasonless weeks before, it was mostly a issue of no proficiency caches only from what i remember, the world diff button not working would seem like something i would remember and people would have be outraged about back then

deep blaze
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not sure why that functionality would have an end-timer where after it just ceases to exist so maybe more plausible is that specific system is tied to season state and they forgot to add a placeholder "off-season" state with settings for that aspect included for the gap, because of the unexpected delay

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and they likely before planned it/didn't forget about it and added some hidden "off season" state that provided it with that data so it knew what to do with season directives and difficulty (as they might be in one unit)

swift storm
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any stuff worth buying from vendor?

deep blaze
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it seems very much an oversight to not have global difficulty setting altogether I feel like and certainly would stand out

plush otter
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yeah, still a bad oversight, if even that if something like a offseason state would be needed for those, they should still have the code for those from the other times we were seasonless to implement

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or just re extend it

smoky stag
deep blaze
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probably a case of "this spaghetti code works fine for this and we only have two possible states right, either in season and then that season feeds it that data, or an off season we set up that feeds it data, there's nothing else right so we're covered!" and forgot that if they actually...forget to switch it then there's now a gap/third option
from a programming standpoint especially with a group working on it and potentially people who worked on it with poor communication or who already left and new devs looking at it etc, it seems quite plausible for some oversight like this happen

smoky stag
plush otter
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0th world problems 😛

deep blaze
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probably not the most rational thought I've had about it but it kind of feels like that when you're opening tons of them a lot

smoky stag
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i mean, they could have given us QOL options to bulk open shit

deep blaze
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rather not, knowing them that button would add a 1.2% crash chance
:^)

pseudo lark
quick tendon
deep blaze
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my world changed (slightly) when I learnt you can at least skip that animation by pressing Q/E to switch tabs

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before that I was opening them in huge bulk every new moon and was watching YT during the full 4 hours like nature intended

swift storm
smoky stag
deep blaze
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._.

plush otter
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also not that it would give me anything if i even opened them all, i own all textile apparel already

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also doom likely has triple that stored up 😛

smoky stag
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i put out of my mind
will just gimme a headache

cloud sage
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I just now realized directives are gone. Are they intentionally trying to upset people?

sullen estuary
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Whay we cant change World tire or add directive anymore

plush otter
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yeah, its broken for now, hopefully a patch to fix it soon, as it is very annoying

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same for the project available popup in the bottom left due to the season pass daily mission, that we cant get rid off in any way still, but also have to deal with now as there is no active season

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also dont get the anderson mission marker on your mapscreen as it will crash, if you want to use the dc map, zoom in to go anywhere in the east side

cloud sage
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They need to communicate immediately, it's kinda game breaking with directives gone. Basically nothing I planned on doing today is worthwhile due to the low xp gain without directives.

clever shoal
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how i change global difficulty ? open the map and what then ?

cloud sage
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What's going on? We are aware of this issue. Estimated time to switch it back on or potentially fix it if it by some strange occurance has been broken (however you manage to do that).

deep blaze
plush otter
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with this lvl of breakage, they usually do a emergency patch as soon as they have it ready, may still take a day or 2 though, hopefully sooner

cloud sage
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Okay, I hope so.

plush otter
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but also, they should have tested for this and started that process when they knew it was going to be delayed

sullen estuary
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Only plaxe where directive working stil is Summit

plush otter
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yeah, summit will still work, as its a seperate system, so that is still a option, countdown should also not break for gear farming

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well, not break more than usual

cloud sage
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Anyway, not the end of the world. I'll do something else.

deep blaze
cloud sage
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Not when I logged in, no.

deep blaze
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they said that less than 3 hours after it was out, depending on where the dev team in US is it could've been around 2-3am their time

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well I don't know if it's realistic to reply that quick depending on time zones, don't really see that often, it was less than 3 hours after the issue started that they communicated about that specific issue

clever shoal
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how i change global difficulty ? open the map and what then ?

deep blaze
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it's another thing to probably be able to test something before you push it to production to deal with issues like this but with a tiny team they might not even have resources for that

cloud sage
smoky stag
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hope they fix it and accidentally quadruple all xp

deep blaze
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it's also a video game and if you're upset that someone doesn't get out of bed at 1am to say that so quick and instead take a couple more hours that's like a bit too far

plush otter
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dev is mostly in west eu for massive and east eu for ubi (was it ~~istanbul ~~or bucharest that was working on div2 now aswell?) edit: its bucharest

cloud sage
deep blaze
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm telling you
It's a whole another issue of course that it happened in the first instance

cloud sage
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Not nice to assume I'm upset. I fear this is just gonna be a drawn out exchange for no good reason. Have a good day.

tender wave
deep blaze
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I'm just not fond of people bashing community facing members in teams as they tend to take a lot of flack at people getting way too upset about a game not working, I just want to stay realistic here that's all
(mostly referring to the somewhat entitled sounding "They need to communicate immediately")

smoky stag
cloud sage
deep blaze
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Lmao

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All I was saying is there's a good reason a lot of community managers have a hell of a life and potentially huge turnover and I prefer to think about the humans behind these, and your statement is exactly how a lot of that starts and it all adds up - sorry I prefer their word and feelings on it and for my tastes I've seen a bit too much of some of those experiences and what it can lead to and how it affects people's lives, so I don't give a flying heck about what you say is some "bickering" when it's about such potentially serious matter (and yes I'm more than willing to die on a hill if it's about doing something that affects other people mentally and how much toxicity there can be behind entitled gamers)

cloud sage
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Anyway

nimble scroll
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Don't know about all of you but now i am getting some problems in audio in game during playing any mission. It's like getting some kind of white noise. Not only me the group i am playing with has same problem. Anyone else facing these type of problem. We are using discord for vop as usual. Not inbuild one.

frozen meadow
quick tendon
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On the PC, I have about 70. Still fresh on that one. 😄
Console, I forgot how much I have. 😮

plush otter
umbral tusk
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Hovering to countdown/summit causes ctd. Anyone else experiencing it?

formal mortar
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Yes we all are

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You can do summit just zoom all the way in

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It's the power plant manhunt icon that's causing it

plush otter
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nearing that anderson marker will crash, if the game loads it if its on screen yeah

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also the chopper pilot i now noticed crashes as that also has a link to Anderson mission

umbral tusk
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I see. thanks zooming in works

main delta
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Where’s the setting for the timer for regular missions

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I can’t find it

plush otter
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what do you mean by timer?

main delta
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Speedrun thing I swear there was one for regular missions on the hud

lunar nimbus
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I can't transmog the BTSU data gloves? That sucks

round grail
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Exotic so no mog

lucid finch
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How come I can’t change the global difficulty anymore. The options just gone

round grail
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Did legendary capitol hill just now
Thought it was going to be worse than how it went

plush otter
plush otter
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fix soon™️

lucid finch
vapid breach
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So, if you scroll all the way down your social list (at least on PlayStation) it’s a guaranteed crash.

And this is the one so difficult for me. I’m always checking to see what everyone is doing 😭 so I keep crashing my game every 5 minutes

hazy copper
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Woooow

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So many random crashes
Suppose it's time for a little between season break I guess

vapid breach
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Probably 😂 I’ve spent all morning testing and so far I have a list of all guaranteed crashes I’ve found

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My friend is currently checking them for me and crashing 😂

paper glen
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damn just came to see if anyone else was crashing this bad as well lmao

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i was so hyped to smash some div out today too

vapid breach
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😂😂😂😂 my other friend just told me only WiFi users will crash so I told him to scroll down his social list

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“Agent” has disconnected

thorny talon
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so now console users too crash?

round grail
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Havent crashed yet today at all

tropic compass
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Did vendors reset today?

vocal hound
vapid breach
vocal hound
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Yep, clan is small tho too.

vapid breach
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Fascinating. For us, it’s the moment you touch the last person before going into the clan list.

I think I only have 13 people online on PlayStation at the moment

vocal hound
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I've got 3 online and no one online in clan.

thorny talon
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so all console plebs throwing shade at pc for crashing guess karma came full circle 🤓

vapid breach
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Do you also crash if you open the pilot and try to scroll down?

vocal hound
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Let me check

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Yep, open pilot and insta-crash

vapid breach
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If you try to hover over the countdown icon also should be a guaranteed crash

vocal hound
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Will check/test that as well

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at least load times are quick with a PS5

vapid breach
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Yeah that’s why I don’t mind testing. It’s like farming the loot goblin yesterday

vocal hound
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ok, so it seems to be going into that area of the map at all crashes, I started at kenly and started moving across and crashes

hazy copper
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I was like ok no season stuff I could play on my HC character to fill the time but like... no ty lmao

vapid breach
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A noob put me on a fix to be able to scroll that side of the map. If you go all the way out like the top down view, you can get to hover over summit

#

Could you confirm you don’t crash either?

vocal hound
#

Will do

vapid breach
#

Hmm, I was testing it scrolling from the middle of the top down view and I crashed. So I think you have to scroll from the top

vocal hound
#

top down crash, going to try something else.

#

Going to try moving cursor to top and then move across

digital patrol
#

how do i block other players? and if i do block them will i not be able to encounter them in DZ?

vapid breach
vocal hound
vocal hound
lost pivot
#

I'm crashing for as much as right clicking in the world map...

#

Can't even change world settings

midnight onyx
digital patrol
steel river
vocal hound
#

@vapid breach kinda sad now. I left Summit and can't get back in lol

lunar nimbus
#

Can't change global settings?

cloud sage
#

If it was up to me I'd just throw in another maintenance and revert back to the state the game was in prior to the maintenance earlier today. At least it was just semi-broken at that point.

lunar nimbus
#

Am I the only one who can't change global settings?

steel river
vocal hound
#

Yea, seems it would be best to re-enable the season. Leaving it as is you can't even access some systems at all.

lunar nimbus
#

I'm stuck in Heroic now 😂

blazing cosmos
vocal hound
#

I'd rather be stuck in heroic than in normal

pseudo lark
#

we will see when they gonna fix all that

#

next year hopefully ✌🏽

steel river
#

🤣

vapid breach
coral musk
#

Division 2 playerbase realizing they can play other games 🤯

soft knoll
vapid breach
coral musk
#

weird thing was last night when I tried to farm loot goblins before the server reset

#

only oh carols, no sleighers or chill out masks

lost pivot
#

LMFAO, now I'm in NY and can't even travel back to DC. Great job devs.

#

Insta crash

spice citrus
#

same whit me XD

clever shoal
#

HELP plox i done new Your Quest line get SHD why i cnot use Z for make Global chance difficulty?

lethal goblet
#

Same. It's not the same bug as before I think... the fix for that one doesn't work

lost pivot
#

What a monumental mess up someone did to the game today

cloud sage
#

I'm sorry guys, I played too much and grinded too hard yesterday so now the game is really tired and parts of it fell alseep.

lost pivot
spice citrus
#

true XD

lethal goblet
#

No worries... Heartland is on the way and will be a totally bugfree and polished experience -.-

spice citrus
clever shoal
#

do i need done some quest for unlock it ?

spice citrus
#

?

soft knoll
vocal hound
cloud sage
#

We live in strange times. Even more bugs in February than during summer. Climate change must be real.

soft knoll
#

Its fact, the almighty Todd has spoken. lol

steel river
#

Let's wait for TD2- Special Edition 5, in that case

vocal hound
#

The HD-HD remake.

gusty garden
#

Guys where can I get The Memento nowadays

vocal hound
rancid island
spice citrus
#

i opend a exocit "loot case" and got it

gusty garden
#

nooooo

#

Is there any info on when target BP will come?

blissful bridge
#

when is season 11

#

im so bored '

gusty garden
#

And @vocal hound , can you choose a target in countdown or summit?

#

Or have to wait for specific?

vocal hound
blissful bridge
gusty garden
#

Nice! Is either more popular for grinding? And any certain mode?

blissful bridge
#

summit up to 4 people countdown up to 8 people

#

you do what you think will be good for you

spice citrus
#

is it just me or striker gear is core attribute is just dmg when ever u get it?

gusty garden
#

I'm confused, the elevator doesn't give choices for a specific targeted loot

blissful bridge
#

you go to the map

vocal hound
#

That's normal, sets have certain core specifics

blissful bridge
#

and choose from there

gusty garden
#

Thank you so much Chifties

umbral tusk
#

can you guys matchmake countdown now?

spice citrus
#

i grinded 4 h striker gear and only got dmg ones XC

umbral tusk
#

Im still crashing

vocal hound
spice citrus
#

oh okj

gusty garden
#

Do I have to do heroic to get the memento in summit?

vapid breach
formal mortar
vapid breach
formal mortar
#

Just start to the left of the map, zoom in all the way, go up then across to the right then down a bit until you can see the summit and you'll be able to centre on the fast travel icon for it 🙂

lunar nimbus
#

I can't progress my Technician research. Is this related to the Season 10 ending?

vocal hound
lunar nimbus
#

I killed Blade's robot before killed her and it doesn't show that I've completed it

frigid crag
#

Im Guessing World difficulty and Directives are broken then ?

lost pivot
#

Yes

frigid crag
#

Damn, was farming lovely with max XP yesterday !!

formal mortar
frigid crag
#

I hope they sort it out soon

vocal hound
#

I think you may be able to barely get to countdown with the zoom trick, heh

vapid breach
#

You can do countdown from the pilot. I’ve been doing it all morning

winter relic
#

So I asked yesterday or the day before.. but I want to ask again.. how is the community feeling about things lately?

sleek bay
#

is the manhunt over

formal mortar
#

Yep

sleek bay
#

fuuuck i had 1 more

formal mortar
#

I've already done it once but was on the final mission last night to finish it one more time 🙂

sleek bay
#

i should have stayed up til 3am i guess lol

formal mortar
#

If it's any consolation the final mission is garbage, really annoying solo.

sleek bay
#

i just wanted the exo but Ill just do summit for it i guess

tender wave
median orbit
#

I've picked up the game again two weeks ago and really enjoyed all the new stuff to discover (left in the early days after WT were introduced).
Also hugely appreciate the community since some people here speculated that the season change / ending might end in the disaster that we have today I skipped a bit of sleep yesterday to finish the manhunt and do the legacy one that I unlocked.

tender wave
# sleek bay fuuuck i had 1 more

Apparently they're working on extending the manhunt again (until the new season is ready, I guess) so you may get your chance yet after all.

fiery cloud
#

Hey Kettle

tender wave
#

Hey Saph

reef elbow
#

Lol not surprising season 11 was delayed honestly massive your abunch of nob heads that can't do shit right

soft knoll
#

Odd statement.. they have made a hell of a game if you ask me. Sure it has many faults but stating they "cant do shit right" is a bit of an exaggeration yeah?

potent condor
#

Is there an exotic shotgun that is a world drop?

hazy saffron
#

Sweet dreams?

upbeat quartz
#

my game suddenly started crashing when opening the map

potent condor
#

Is it good?

lament mirage
potent condor
#

I’m farming countdown

reef elbow
potent condor
#

Gonna see if I can get one then

lament mirage
azure lintel
#

Yo is it just me or when i go over the summit the game crashes?

soft knoll
little oak
#

causing crashes until further notice

sleek bay
#

whats the legendary this week?

azure lintel
#

Even summit crashes

#

Damn

pseudo lark
#

so, the manhunt power plant mission is causing all these map crashes or what

azure lintel
plush otter
#

going anywhere near the anderson mission marker will crash on the map, if you need to be on that side of the map, zoom in to go places, aslong as the marker doesnt fully load it doesnt crash

reef elbow
river scarab
#

countdown so bugged if you open it from helicopter instant crash lol

soft knoll
#

For example, the above complaints.. 😑 "We need to push an update out, so lets test it completely and fully." (Denied must make release date). aaaaaand issues ensue.

lunar nimbus
#

My inventory get full so easily 😂

pseudo lark
#

anyone know if the mission will be there when u join a friend who havent done it yet

#

im scared to open my map lmao

silent urchin
#

guys i can't change difficulty in the world

soft knoll
#

I guess im old school. Expecting investors and money greedy suits let companies make a product, see its potential and actually understand the market they are investing their money into and allowing the developers time and space to create what they set out to, not what wishful thinking they dreamed up.

quick socket
turbid kite
#

Ahhh game with no directive no fun and crashes make me Angry Bird

viscid cargo
#

basically cant do anything rn lol

#

spaghetti code moment

fathom lake
#

I open map = Crash :))

viscid cargo
#

time to hop on division 1 instead for a bit

soft knoll
# viscid cargo spaghetti code moment

I've wondered if it would be worth them switching to a new engine altogether in the future. Snow drop was pretty when it came out but the amount of issues through the years.. makes you wonder if its really worth sticking with it or ditching it for another engine (Like UE5 for example).

viscid cargo
soft knoll
#

I meant for a sequel, yes. Too deep now for a change for Div 2

upbeat quartz
#

is that also why my game is crashing when i open my map?

upbeat quartz
soft knoll
#

Sadly I agree with ya.

kindred musk
#

did the missed season break global settings?

#

i cant find them anymore

quick socket
#

Yes

kindred musk
#

nice

upbeat quartz
soft knoll
#

Honestly tbf, I kind of wish they would switch to their Anvil engine.. at least it runs "Kinda" better. lol

#

Not sure how the MP component would work with it, so that might be why they wont consider it. But hell who knows.. just spit balling by this point I suppose.

vocal hound
#

switching engines is a huge overhaul change better left to developing a new game.

main delta
#

I can see the investor argument for maybe a new studio, but not with how long Ubisoft has been in the game

#

Those guys understand how it works by this point

soft knoll
#

Like say.. an inevitable Div 3? 👀

main delta
#

Maybe 2-3 years down the road

#

Not anytime soon

#

If at all

quick socket
#

Yeah, their current focus is on Heartland

soft knoll
#

Was 3 years from Div 1 and 2..,, just saying

#

Heartland?

#

Eh.... doubtful

quick socket
#

Yeah, the next Division title scheduled to release in this year after being delayed for 2 years

main delta
#

Afaik red storm is the lead studio in heartland

plush otter
#

completely different devs

soft knoll
#

Heartland is a off shoot, not a main entry.

upbeat quartz
soft knoll
upbeat quartz
#

yeah heartland is a survival game

plush otter
#

if they go div 3 at any point, i dont think it will be with any other studio than massive

soft knoll
plush otter
#

while others do the offshoots and the mobile game

soft knoll
#

I like what they have going so far

main delta
#

Massive can’t be the lead though, no offense to them

soft knoll
#

Could let Massive lead, but have support studios come in to support

#

Help the load so to speak

plush otter
#

massive has been the lead on both sofar, and its more the decay by others that is causing most the issues, the 2 years of the main team of massive being in charge was great

main delta
#

They need more studios then

#

And I 100% agree

#

When that team was full steam ahead it was great

bitter wraith
#

Is it just me who is finding the game unplayable on xbox?

dusky linden
soft knoll
#

I mean actually support too, not just attach them for workload, but give input, criticism, etc.. actually SUPPORT the Massive team ya know?

bitter wraith
#

I crashed then tried to launch a countdown then crashed again

quick socket
#

Game is unplayable everywhere

plush otter
#

its more that it would have been great if the whole of massive was kept on to work on div2, most of the current issues are from that decision to cut support after year 2, that they then went back on

main delta
#

S11 not launching on time broke everything

bitter wraith
#

I guess the game is facked for now then lmao

plain trail
#

Esp for a live service

upbeat quartz
#

division 1 time then i guess

plain trail
#

Basically the game will be shit again for 2-3 years

#

As they try to catch it back up

bitter wraith
#

Do you think the dz will be flooded with greifers when S11 relaunches?

main delta
#

Hopefully heartland lives up to the hype

quick socket
main delta
#

When is it not

plush otter
#

that would be true if either you made that work at the start, by having allot of work put in to keep that viable, or you keep the people at all times that made the stuff or rework it all at some point, like warframe did

bitter wraith
plush otter
#

as in the case for div2, it might be easier to have div3 than try to completely fix div2

quick socket
#

Before there was a chance that you could just pass by other people in the DZ without conflict, now I expect it to become a total bloodbath

upbeat quartz
#

what is a griefer in the context of div2 darkzone?

quick socket
upbeat quartz
#

ahh, fun

main delta
#

Getting ganked from behind trying to clear CPs

soft knoll
#

Honestly we need a Div 3 soon... Div 1 and 2 had roughly 3 years between them. It keeps it fresh, and pushes things forward with a future goal.. I think 3 to 5 years of content is good. But after that a new entry should be considered if its as popular as Div series has been. Just my opinion of course.

upbeat quartz
polar warren
quick socket
#

Or, the absolute worst people are the ones that wait for you to clear a monument, and then immediately gun you down while you're picking up loot

main delta
#

We havnt actually had a full 5 years of content though

upbeat quartz
polar warren
#

I’m learning new things about my gameplay I guess….. I’m sorry lololol

soft knoll
polar warren
#

Kill a few people when they aren’t looking I bet you’ll have some laughs

main delta
#

They planned it out for 8

upbeat quartz
main delta
#

Then changed their minds

bitter wraith
#

Dz shouldn't have been split up into 3 tiny areas though

limber mist
bitter wraith
limber mist
#

yeah, they just wanted kill i guess

bitter wraith
#

I feel like some players just play to kill players

limber mist
#

cos the kills are usually weekly and daily

soft knoll
#

DZ is a fickle thing.. in some ways I wish it was integrated into the full game areas as an option, but on the other I like how Div 1 handled it.

bitter wraith
#

Rip dz for s11 though ☠️

upbeat quartz
#

whats happening with dz in s11?

bitter wraith
quick socket
#

The raid exotics were added to the DZ general loot pool

bitter wraith
#

Minus regulus

upbeat quartz
#

ahh cool

bitter wraith
#

Literally the ravenous is the only thing I'm missing

#

And the new stuff ofc

#

I wonder if checkpoint campers will fade or not

#

I hope not

quick socket
#

I've been hearing around that the new gear sets are gonna make some crazy precision builds, especially with nemesis

soft knoll
bitter wraith
#

And by the time they notice it'll be too late just like yesterday when some guy got mad that he missed my extraction

vocal hound
#

checkpoint griefing will likely fade for a little bit and then pick back up when folks get bored of that and go back to their checkpoints to attempt to gatekeep people from the DZ

soft knoll
#

In Div 1 DZ, there was a group of us that was purposely go to DZ just to be "police" to fight gankers (Or the Sherriff for this one). Was fun as hell. Div 2 though? Never seen anyone willing to do that. lol

tender wave
#

Checkpoint campers are the nice ones, if you want to pvp you know where to find them, if you don't just fast travel to a different checkpoint.

vocal hound
soft knoll
#

It was actually something fun to look forward too, either as the aggressor or the protectors. I miss it

limber mist
quick socket
abstract dew
#

did they fix crashing after season end yet?

#

like when trying to change map..

vocal hound
#

Not yet. Only thing you can do is try to mitigate the issue.

quick socket
#

I just crashed when mousing over countdown so I'd assume not yet

soft knoll
abstract dew
#

💀 man i just got this game and this how it be..

earnest pelican
abstract dew
#

i aint never heard of a game being this broke after an update/event starts or ends.. and the devs not instantly say something

quick socket
#

Its probably the delays on S11 and Tu17. Tu17 likely would have patched some of this stuff, but its been delayed by 2 weeks now

rough arch
#

So we have 2 more week of broken map screen ?

soft knoll
#

Im sure they will be pushing an update out to fix the map crashing as long as people report it properly.

quick socket
#

Like, S10 was never meant to still be around at this point, so the Anderson mission straight up shouldn't be there, and coincidentally now causes crashes when being moused over

#

Theres probably a ton of background stuff going on that becomes more of a mess the longer it exists, but I'm no game dev, so this is all just conjecture.

limber mist
#

if u have agent which u dont completed manhunt, should be good

quick tendon
limber mist
#

manhunt menu is broken

quick tendon
#

Well that's a fine "How do yo do!" from the system.
It'll be fine. flames around the room

vocal hound
#

bah, wrong reply. =/

quick tendon
#

Consoles too, eh? (not that i want to go back to Console anytime soon)

soft knoll
#

Discord is just a small portion of the player base, so im sure they are getting quite a bit of complaints by this point. Give it another day or so, im sure an update will be pushed out.

#

Im sounding like a Mod.. jeesus.. wtf... Rivens! I choose you! (as I slink into the darkness)

bitter wraith
#

Countdown broken completely then?

brazen mountain
#

Me lucky

bitter wraith
#

Lucky af

#

Is the game actually playable rn or should I just wait a few weeks?

soft knoll
#

Id honestly say just give it a day or two.

topaz sparrow
#

About 7 hours ago. The division team have said in a Twitter reply that they're aware of the problems and is currently working on it

soft knoll
#

Most issues like this that are major take about a day or two to smooth out.

novel laurel
topaz sparrow
#

But I would say give them a day or two*

brazen mountain
#

The hell happened???

limber mist
#

this is just stupid, im crashing every 10 minutes

vocal hound
hazy copper
#

ooof

bitter wraith
#

Earlier the game only worked for 2 minutes then crashed

topaz sparrow
brazen mountain
#

Damn

hazy copper
#

I think unless you're desperate for division just take a bit of time to play something else. it doesn't seem worth it rn

soft knoll
limber mist
#

😄 yeah, but instead of improving current games and move more resources there 😄 they will release new division game 😄

#

have a taste of Ubisoft logic 😄

brazen mountain
soft knoll
hazy copper
#

qw nice 🥰

topaz sparrow
#

Happy birthday

brazen mountain
#

Thanks you

soft knoll
#

One more year closer to your death.. i mean potential... I mean.. shit.. just... yeah... happy birthday death day... (Anyone get the reference, 10 points)

brazen mountain
soft knoll
round grail
#

Uhh so my demo mgl was shooting duds

#

Bug?

warped root
#

When is new season dropping now?

vocal hound
#

No one knows for sure, all we can assume is "when it's ready."

fiery cloud
#

hey whats the deal with countdown insta crashing the game and throwing you all the way out

balmy cedar
#

The crash I get most of the time is I freeze right after collecting the orange box loot or right before… it’s as if that many players interacting with it breaks the game

broken solstice
fiery cloud
#

ok just checking

broken solstice
#

at least countdown

jolly kettle
#

Where can i get a kataras drop?

balmy cedar
#

A who

broken solstice
#

never heard of it

fiery cloud
#

cathartsis

broken solstice
#

mask targeted loot

jolly kettle
#

Ok 👍

fiery cloud
#

just got mine from weekly drop

brazen mountain
brazen mountain
#

Got it from the season track

jolly kettle
#

Playing legendary summit would work, mask drop?

brazen mountain
#

If you can manage it

jolly kettle
#

I try thanks

sterile bough
#

Idk how you, ppl in Ubisoft, wanna keep players in TD2? There's good bunch of new and...you doing what you serving us with from few years just more ugly. Idk, I'm an addict and I'm used to this cr.p but you're not going to earn any money if you going to continue with this every tuesday.

soft knoll
#

The game has many ups and downs, you just have to carve the good from that bad.

jolly kettle
#

Hope we get season 11 in a fjew weeks

soft knoll
#

Being an addict it should be obvious.. and hard, to see the potential the series has. We as the players just have to remark the issues we experience, and what we wish to see gets improved.

desert crystal
#

the games broken

jolly kettle
#

Game crashes everytime i restart game hmmmm

azure lintel
#

andybody else able to turn directives on cause i dont see the option anymore

desert crystal
#

oh no is that broken as well

soft knoll
#

Ongoing issues are present since the latest update.

desert crystal
#

new issues you mean

soft knoll
#

(Most PR statement I've made in a while) lol

#

"Please ignore our shortcomings... things fucked up.. sorry"

jolly kettle
#

I cant play divisjon 2 it crashes everytime i restart

abstract dew
soft knoll
#

Gotta clear it through the channels and whatnot most likely.. not want to piss off the PR departments and the stock holders and all that.

jolly kettle
#

What should i do, i cant play divisjon 2 now

soft knoll
#

Sounds messed up but.. might I suggest playing another game for a few hours?

jolly kettle
#

Ok 👍

soft knoll
#

Give them time to assess and fix the issues

lunar nimbus
#

Is there a lore reason why Black Tusk needs to put LED screens on everything, even gloves? 😂

fervent berry
#

They're big fans of their own logo

#

Just normal stuff petter

soft knoll
low flame
#

That’s what I wondered a long time ago. Why would they put those electronic banners everywhere on the territory they had control of? And why would they never be taken down when someone else took control of it?

#

Obviously not for lore reasons but you probably get what I mean

soft knoll
#

"Hey Jim, does this make sense?" "...Fuck no.." "But does it stand out?!" "Well.. I cant argue with that but it..." "WHO CARES THEY LOOK UNIQUE MAKE IT HAPPEN!"

#

Sure it was something like that...

lunar nimbus
#

If Ubisoft is going for LED stuff, let me have a LED gears. Bag, Kneepads, Armor.

soft knoll
#

Please. No. Dont give them ideas.

#

We may have those Gold clad operators from CoD... or Halloween specials from Battlefield.

dense raft
#

Is it me? Or directives is taken out?

soft knoll
#

Actually... shit too late... never mind

lunar nimbus
azure lintel
#

no its me too

dense raft
#

No more directives?😅

azure lintel
#

dont see directives at all even restarted my game

dense raft
#

I see. Probably bug

hazy copper
#

led armour is pretty
bright lights 🥰

formal hinge
#

no directives, no reset control points, no change world difficulty... on characters that did not have season active, no countdown icon either where it should be on map

wintry ocean
#

Anyone having issues trying to fast travel between places ? And getting kicked out

azure lintel
#

no cause i walk everywhere

desert crystal
#

console or pc

wintry ocean
#

Console

azure lintel
#

pc fast travel works fine for me

desert crystal
#

does it

#

do you just have to avoide the countdown icon

azure lintel
#

oh so lol the stories were ture hover over countdown u crash lol

#

thought that was a myth till i did it

desert crystal
#

did you just do that

azure lintel
#

ye

abstract dew
#

i cant even leave new york. when i try to return to dc my game crashes

cloud sage
desert crystal
#

oh no

abstract dew
#

AND if i fast travel anywhere in ny, crash.

viscid cargo
#

any official word from Ubisoft on the issues from season ending?

azure lintel
#

supposedly their working on a fix

abstract dew
#

so im just watching youtube videos trying to figure out a good set to go for, and maybe an intro to raids set

azure lintel
#

from what i was told

desert crystal
#

are you sure

#

where was you told this

abstract dew
#

their twitter replies

viscid cargo
azure lintel
#

in another group

#

ima just watch anime

abstract dew
azure lintel
#

nah another discord

viscid cargo
#

yeah i just found it

#

they are "investigating"

lunar nimbus
#

I hope they roll out some crash fixes with Season 11.

#

I got more crashes lately than when I started playing

limber orchid
#

I crashed like 6 times today I can’t believe they still haven’t fix this shit unreal

limber orchid
soft knoll
#

Problem comes up. Unknown why. People complain. Multiple Hardware to consider. Software too. XYZ reasons why it could be having issues.. Test previous build to current. Transfer that data to multiple people across multiple systems.. yada yada yada...

abstract dew
soft knoll
#

Still people need it fixed now..

limber orchid
soft knoll
#

It takes time, is what im getting at. It a known issue. Give detailed issues you run into if you want to make a difference. PC, Console, system config, etc... Use the proper channels.

#

I still think they should drop SnowDrop but meh...

low flame
#

They can’t just drop snowdrop

soft knoll
#

For the future, i dont mean for Div 2

low flame
#

Not for div1 or 2

soft knoll
#

The engine has been plagued with constant issues, especially with DX12

low flame
#

I think it’s good

vocal hound
#

It's not though. Any new Div console/pc game really should be developed on a more modern engine/platform.

soft knoll
#

Not one person can claim DX12 features have worked with the game, if they do claim it then im sorry but they are lying as its a known fact it has issues with it. Period. Years now its proven it is an unstable engine.

low flame
#

So improve snowdrop

soft knoll
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Yes.

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Either make a Snowdrop 3.0 or switch engines.

vocal hound
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They have a new engine don't they? No need to improve if they are already developing on a diff engine for other projects.

soft knoll
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Anvil is what has been used in quite a few other games (Ghost Recon being the most relevant) but it still differs as its not geared to the same multiplayer aspect as Division is.

valid steppe
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will leg weekly stonghold drop exotic cache or nah?

low flame
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It will

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Just a visual bug

soft knoll
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Transferring assets, infostructure, and not to mention the manpower to do so, to that new engine... oof. But still I think it needs it. As the months/years progress I feel the engine keeps having more issues than anything adapting to the new hardware being put out.

valid steppe
soft knoll
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Just Fyi, I may shit on the current state of the game/engine/etc... but it holds a hell of a lot of potential. Even all these years later. Even after years of issues, and sadly, neglect. Snow Drop can be an amazing engine, but I feel its being overshadowed by these constant bugs and instabilities that could have been avoided, due to a small team, incompetent management, and improper care by overseers on the team, keep rearing its head. Cant bring it to proper fruition if you don't properly value and care for it ya know?

potent condor
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crashes

viscid star
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Yeah kind of disappointing since I just started getting into D2

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I loved the first one

potent condor
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destiny 2 meh

viscid star
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did they transfer all the people that built the game or just not been careful about the content and code theyve added?

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D2 as in Division

flint hazel
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Hi

potent condor
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i know my joke fell on deaf years

flint hazel
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Can someone help me with my build

plush otter
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you can just ask the question, plenty here that are willing to help, though maybe do it over in #td2-build-advice

bitter wraith
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I guess I'll have to wait a few months before I can play this again

keen orbit
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is the game working properly yet?

karmic wyvern
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Take a guess

keen orbit
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probably not

plush vale
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No

karmic wyvern
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Good guess

plush vale
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😂

keen orbit
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damn can ubisoft just fix there game for once in their lifes

plush vale
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Maybe they are working on some new content instead. we know they ain’t but we can dream

blazing cosmos
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dang, wanting to try make a new build but needed the gear, can't even do countdown without crashing

keen orbit
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but if they were working on new content why wouldnt just say that

plush vale
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U can’t do countdown becuase the old season 10 logo use to be there and it has bugged the map if u hover over countdown ur game crashes g

karmic wyvern
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I literally just finished my new Railsplitter build last night and now I can't even give it a good long field testing

keen orbit
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i was working on a huge dps build was about to go get the smg needed and boom issues arised

karmic wyvern
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Such a pain

plush vale
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What smg 👀👀

karmic wyvern
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Bet it's Dark Winter

keen orbit
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yep dark winter indeed

plush vale
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Hahhaha

karmic wyvern
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Such a good gun

plush vale
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I got a god role one if u want it lmao

karmic wyvern
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I run it on my TP build

keen orbit
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yeah i cant even get into the dark zone to farm it

plush vale
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Hahhahahaa

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Game is so bugged lmao

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We love it don’t we

karmic wyvern
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Sucks man. Can't even try named cahces from Countdown either lmao

keen orbit
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nope

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nothing works

lunar nimbus
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Should I focus Skill Haste or Skill Damage for Turret / Drone build?

keen orbit
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both

karmic wyvern
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Both if you can

keen orbit
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and duration

plain trail
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skill haste is useless

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better to get crit after skill damage

keen orbit
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just watch a nothing but skillz yt video

smoky stag
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only skill damage really matters. do what you will with the 2nd attributes

smoky stag
karmic wyvern
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I tend not to bother with build tutorials on YT. I like throwing my own together more.

plain trail
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well i do recommend you watch some videos

keen orbit
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same but some can give good bases to work from

plain trail
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if you're not skilled enough to throw your own builds together without asking very basic questions

karmic wyvern
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I've seen a couple, but I never immediately follow them

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And I've enough experience to know what works atm

keen orbit
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no i use them and imporve them

wraith glade
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no fix yet?

keen orbit
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hahaha imagine if they fixed there game

karmic wyvern
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Nope

wraith glade
karmic wyvern
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Are they even aware?

wraith glade
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aaa no gifs

keen orbit
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i think so i just think they dont care

coarse lagoon
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tf is with the map and crashing today

blazing cosmos
wise atlas
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really glad I bought the remaining season levels last night

vale wolf
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does anyone know how to leave new york without your game crashing?

smoky stag
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join a random friend whos in DC
the leave lol

vale wolf
sturdy cape
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@vale wolf want an invite? my character is in DC

vale wolf
sturdy cape
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ok give me 2 mins to login, what's your ign?

soft knoll
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Noobslayer420...

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couldnt resist.. 👀

vale wolf
bitter wraith
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Is it most likely the update will actually release in the next 24 hours or like within a week?

blazing cosmos
bitter wraith
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Although then again as you said it's ubisoft so idk

blazing cosmos
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yeah deffo not worth uninstalling over, maybe just take a break from the game for now

karmic wyvern
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If I had to guess I'd say a couple days for a fix

blazing cosmos
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I'm probs gonna go back to div 1 for now

bitter wraith
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I would play some div 1 but there's no event so not really much point other than to mess around

blazing cosmos
bitter wraith
blazing cosmos
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ah rip

bitter wraith
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I could do some UG though

quick tendon
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Anyone else getting Delta-4? 😮

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Bravo4 I mean?

bitter wraith
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Does anyone else game blow up when they click summit?

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I could try summit but countdown broken

real flume
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I've been away for a while, am I missing something on how to change the global difficulty? I don't see an option, I completed NY and all

sturdy cape
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game is bugged at the mo, you can't change it @real flume

real flume
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That explains it, thank you

karmic wyvern
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Yeah wait for a fix. The game is barely playable rn

bitter wraith
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How come ubisoft said 'unspecified later date' that makes it sound like S11 is weeks or months away

sturdy cape
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it means they dont know for sure when it'll be ready and dont want to make promises they can't keep

vocal hound
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Because it could be a few weeks out depending on the bugs and localization issues they were running into.

bitter wraith
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It got delayed 4 days ago 🤨

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So that's not a 1 day thing lmao

bitter wraith
vocal hound
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Also, localization can be a pain in the ass.

karmic wyvern
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Tbh I prefer an uncertain delay to repeated short delays.

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Cause when they do that it just comes off as dishonest

sturdy cape
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transparency is always good, if they don't know they don't know

karmic wyvern
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Exactly

plain trail
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Tldr

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It's ready when it's ready

elfin hazel
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exactly

plain trail
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You don't go and ask an artist "when are you gonna be done"

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Because as a creative medium, it is done when it is done

sturdy cape
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in context though going from a firm release date to an unknown poses reasonable questions

plain trail
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Unless you want a situation like darktide or something

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Where the game straight up isnt done

bitter wraith
bitter wraith
elfin hazel
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pretty much any dialogue or any text string

bitter wraith
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Hmm...interesting...was that the only error?

elfin hazel
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making sure its all correct in a few different languages

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that we know of yes

bitter wraith
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Oh right

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Idk what happened with the crashes though

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I hover over countdown game goes bye bye

karmic wyvern
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Who knows

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They pulled the wrong piece of spaghetti out their code and it just collapsed

plain trail
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Moms spaghetti

main delta
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Countdown crashes the game and global settings no longer exist

random flume
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Scared to even log on. Game sounds like it’s in shambles

bitter wraith
main delta
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When the game flow is expecting a new season and the new season doesn’t exist it tends to crash

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It’s like a car without gas

sturdy cape
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yep, i can't change the difficulty of my car when it's out of gas

vocal hound
bitter wraith
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Interesting....

lilac swan
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im farming summit rn no problems

vocal hound
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Getting too close to the Anderson icon is what appears to be crashing the game when on the map.

lilac swan
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i still have my directives on from last night

main delta
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I’m just gonna take a break from it for a week, the invasion loop didn’t reset this week

lone slate
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It reset for me

polar warren
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Use the helicopter above the Calibration gear area

vocal hound
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Invasion changed, well one mission did. Stronghold is manning

lilac swan
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did for me

main delta
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My main stronghold is still tidal basin

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Like it was last week

vocal hound
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Tidal is always the final stronghold, no?

lone slate
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Yes it is

main delta
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Bruh, all I want is GWH invaded

lilac swan
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yeah tidal basin always gets invaded everything else changes

vocal hound
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That's what I thought, but I was away for a year and a half so figured things may have changed in my time away.

azure lintel
lilac swan
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all three of my invasions have been tidal basin for the last one.

azure lintel
main delta
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The hotel mission

vocal hound
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George Washington Hotel?

lilac swan
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i think he needs the mission invaded

azure lintel
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Oh

keen orbit
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yeah nemessis bp

main delta
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Literally need it for the nemesis BP

keen orbit
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same

lilac swan
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maybe find someone on xbox with it invaded?

main delta
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Everyone has the same invaded no?

elfin hazel
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invasion is the same for everyone

azure lintel
lilac swan
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or does it not work like that

lone slate
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D1 for me

azure lintel
lilac swan
vocal hound
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Pretty sure invasion missions are the same for everyone.

lilac swan
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hmmm then otherwise i dont know

bitter wraith
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If the invasion works for some does this mean it's in the process of being fixed?

lilac swan
main delta
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Everyone in malmo is sleeping

bitter wraith
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OK at least that's something lmao

lilac swan
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just waiting for the update to actually push through when they are dont

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done

bitter wraith
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Watch it be like 20GB

lilac swan
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Id cry xD

bitter wraith
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When it should only be like 3GB

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Or less

lilac swan
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dont put that voodoo on me ricky bobby

bitter wraith
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I doubt 106GB spare SSD is enough for the dlc and a few more games meaning I'll have to start taking games off soon

desert crystal
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any way back to DC

soft knoll
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Finish WoNY

desert crystal
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no i mean because of the new bug

soft knoll
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Oh..

late finch
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If you have a clan member in DC you can join them and get back

desert crystal
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so join and leave

late finch
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yep

desert crystal
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so as long as i go in a loading screen that doesnt requier the map itll still let me back

bitter wraith
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Er I can't even start summit

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Because I can't get on top of it without the game orbing itself

hollow pollen
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ifg for farming skolov

soft knoll
bitter wraith
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I literally can't do anything other than South dz wtf

hollow pollen
soft knoll
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Try the other LFG channels...

hollow pollen
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i did

soft knoll
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Then stick with them, its why they are there.

hollow pollen
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i cant fast travel or math make for oak camp

bitter wraith
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Nvm zoomed and it worked

smoky meteor
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Oh my god kill me... Game is crash central today... I just wanna farm these Rogue Agents in peace!

steep aspen
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They broke it when they were messing with seasons. Now we wait.

smoky meteor
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Oh FFS! I'm an idiot. I'm like, What is this red light hanging off my backpack!? Took me five minutes to realize I have an Oh Carol equipped in my secondary to get it Mastered and the bulb is glowing at night.

soft knoll
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ah.. dammit.. forgot they dont show gif previews...

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And somehow.. it still fits..

winter radish
smoky meteor
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Pretty much!

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I wonder if Summit is safe to farm... It shouldn't crash like doing CPs is currently... maybe.

azure lintel
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anyone elses game crashing a lot

lilac swan
swift terrace
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Does somebody know if you can only spawn the hunter that drops the Carbon Mask after 9pm, or at time of the day. Asking because the guide I'm looking at doesn't say it + it doesn't mention the side quest you need to do in order to get access to the building and now it's 9am for me

regal wigeon
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please the DZ NPC ffs

low flame
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They’re the same as regular npcs

regal wigeon
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well nerf them

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no need to melt my 2.0 mil armor

potent condor
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took me 3 days

balmy cedar
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They’re like 1 difficulty lower than presented on map

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The one op thing they do is use shock ammo

toxic flume
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How bad is div2 rn?

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Since past 2-3 days

novel moat
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Why isn’t this on the news announcements discord section ?

low flame
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It came from someone who works in the community (forgot their exact position), or ubisoft themselves

toxic flume
novel moat
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@toxic flume come again ? Facts ?

cloud sage
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I'd be happy with just making the game playable again.

toxic flume
cloud sage
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Season 11 can be put off for a whole year as far as I'm concerned if they could just make it work again.

low flame
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And have a bunch more bugs introduced in season 11?

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It would need to be put off for two years to fix bugs currently and the ones in season 11

surreal orbit
low flame
#

Hey looks like I was kinda right. I was right about the extension but not about that there was actually no maintenance today

surreal orbit
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I see no extension…. Believe it when I see it….

low flame
#

Ah yes just because one person who works at ubi said it doesn’t mean ubi said it. Now that’s something we can agree on, you can’t even believe everything ubi, or anyone, says these days. For example ubi may say [x] will happen then say [x] will not happen

surreal orbit
keen orbit
#

i assume game still broke

spark barn
#

imma gues division is crashing for alot of ppl?

low flame
keen orbit
low flame
#

Crashing is a common issue on pc

spark barn
#

not this bad though

low flame
#

Some people have it. Some people don’t have it. From what I’ve seen it’s really 50/50 whether you crash or not

keen orbit
surreal orbit
toxic flume
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Rng is our best friend

low flame
#

Funny how we’re both thinking of the same person…

keen orbit
surreal orbit
#

Unfortunately it’s not funny for all those that believed he knew what he was talking about….

toxic flume
pliant sentinel
#

take a break from div2 until they fix it

#

collect yugioh cards like me

toxic flume
wispy oyster
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I am crashing every time I go to the map...hard crash straight to the home screen. Also crashes at the helicopter so can't raid, can't do countdown...nothing.

toxic flume
#

Jk… I’m joking 🙃

pliant sentinel
#

buy a new yugioh booster box for me

wispy oyster
#

Someone is saying it has to do with having directives on before the update. Those with directives are experiencing the crash those without are still able to run.

toxic flume
low flame
random thicket
#

So is the game unplayable right now due to crashes?

wispy oyster
random thicket
#

Thx

toxic flume
wispy oyster
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When they ended the season they ended the directives and it messed up the maps of those who had them activated...at least that is a running theory...hopefully they fix it

pliant sentinel
#

inb4 stop production like b4b

tender wave
spark barn
#

is there any way to queue for a countdown without opening the anderson manhunt?

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or is that mia till further notice

tender wave
toxic flume
#

On PC, found CD on challenging with 2 secs

random thicket
pliant sentinel
#

just pulling ur leg

random thicket
#

Kk

pliant sentinel
#

knee-slapping

toxic flume
#

Game crashed 2 times so far running dx11 kekw

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Imma swap back to dx12

#

Less crashes for me, which is weird

abstract dew
#

Any update on game fix?

viscid cargo
naive sand
#

Dang

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Need to reset CPs

abstract dew
#

dang.. just wanna play

toxic flume
lament mirage
#

Dang just waiting for new content

abstract dew
#

nah i cant go back to dc, do any match making, or fast travel

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it aint even rng at this point its just unplayable

balmy cedar
#

I wonder if running the game as administrator would make a difference lol

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Or booting your pc into safe mode

toxic flume
viscid cargo
#

So admin/safe mode wont do anything

balmy cedar
#

It was just a playful suggestion

lament mirage
toxic flume
#

Could work

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I can load up the game and invite you

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We can see if it works

lament mirage
#

@abstract dew

fresh compass
#

why can't I change global settings 😔

abstract dew
#

aint got no homies 👨

lament mirage
#

I would but not on

fickle hemlock
#

Since yesterday after starting up td2 I am not able to change my world tier difficulty. Also I have a alert saying meet many at the wh… but he not showing up anywhere. Anyone know what tf is going on?

steep aspen
#

Games busted right now

fickle hemlock
#

Ok so it’s part of the issue with the update delay

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More or less

steep aspen
#

yeah

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They forgot to extend season 10 after they delayed season 11, so now its all jacked. They'll probably have to roll out a patch in the next couple days to restart season 10 or add the content back in.

toxic flume
#

And see if that works?

sacred sparrow
#

Anyone wanna help me do summit??

toxic flume
#

I personally can’t pepeSAD

glad plume
#

Can I link my pc account to Xbox guys?

toxic flume
#

No, because cross save does not exist in div2

abstract dew
toxic flume
#

Ight, lmk

zenith flint
#

How to complete gunner field research stage 5 without killing Basilisk too fast?

abstract dew
toxic flume
#

Ig?

abstract dew
#

same as discord

toxic flume
#

Ar you in DC?

remote carbon
#

Question! (Probably a nooby one). So I just started Warlords of New York and I don't think I can go back to Washington.... Is there a recalibration table/ area near the first safehouse?

steep aspen
#

There is a recalibration table in base in new york.

toxic flume
remote carbon
toxic flume
#

Across from the vendor in the HUB

lament mirage
remote carbon
#

the locker vendor?

lament mirage
#

A agent saved

#

I honestly never go to nyc unless I’m clearing a alt

#

But lately I’m in dz or conflict/ cd

remote carbon
#

I just got the DLC and want to mess with the tower so I need to beat it

lament mirage
#

Do prefer roaming around in nyc tho

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It’s nice the atmosphere n whatnot

steep aspen
#

I find NYC, just roaming about, is as good as solar farm for mats

toxic flume
toxic flume
lament mirage
toxic flume
toxic flume