#td2-general-chat

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lean wasp
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Its only available during xmas every year I think,and it drops like few named items that you can farm if you need

honest siren
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Omg that's cool! How do I find more?! Lol it's also Christmas themed which is awesome.

lean wasp
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oh you will have to ask someone,I never farmed those but I heard there is spawn points where they "could" spawn

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they usually come out of sewers

lean ingot
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hunters fury

main delta
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They really should just leave the loot goblin in the game, just remove the Santa hat

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Reduce his spawn rate a bit and give him better drops

elfin hazel
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he does spawn normally though

lean wasp
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Crash/Freezing should be the only thing to focus on now

potent condor
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yeah you can get it from summit

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i have over 7 copies of each armour

inland minnow
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Same, was farming CD's today, 2 in a row crashed, reloaded Ubisoft Conn and worked fine

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Just bit laggy afterwards

lean ingot
potent condor
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just do summit

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you'll get every part

honest siren
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Game crashed again. Guess I'm done for the day.

abstract dew
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what is endorse

potent condor
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it's when you endorse an agent

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there are endorsement tiers

tender wave
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a way of thanking someone for answering your call for backup

potent condor
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and it gives the person an exp boost for helping people

lunar nimbus
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What’s the estimated daily player count for PC. On Steam, it’s 3.9k to 6k. I wonder how many playing via UbiLauncher.

elfin hazel
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steams all time peak is 11k but is around 4-6k at a days peak ubi is probably a bit more egs is probably less than steam

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so I'd say around 10k+ at least on PC

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console theres no way of telling afaik

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but if I had to guess somewhere around or above ubicons playerbase combined

lunar nimbus
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10k is still a lot of players. Consider Ubisoft is still continuing the game’s development, I’d say the player count is still providing profits for them.

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Season 11 will probably bring more players back

elfin hazel
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yeah its also end of season where nothing is happening so average player numbers are probably down

brave compass
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Hi all, I need some help in Devision 2. I need ,, Ironworks base material "how to get this material ???? I just need 6 ironwoks

lunar nimbus
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Capacitor is no longer in Summit challenge reward? I can't see it in my challenge reward now

elfin hazel
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visual bug

lunar nimbus
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So it's there, but I just can't see it, OK

brave compass
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maybe someone knows how to get it ,, Ironworks base material " ???

surreal orbit
brave compass
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ok, Ho can help my with iron horse raid ?:D

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I just need 6 ironworks

low flame
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#lfg-raid-pc

surreal cosmos
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4 days without any crashes, today 12 times, have a good night agents

acoustic sparrow
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did the season got extended or something?

main delta
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Yes to an unknown date

dawn prism
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damn and iam still in the story 😄

plush otter
# brave compass I just need 6 ironworks

bosses of IH and only on first clear of the week, so if you have done it this week, you have to wait till next, or use a alt to account share mats over as a option if you really want to do it in this last 6 hours

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as weekly reset is pretty soon

near moth
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REEEEEEEEE coming back and not having any of the crafting blueprints is incredibly painful.

surreal orbit
low flame
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Well tu17 has been delayed and it was supposed to release tomorrow

surreal orbit
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But that’s not what that guy was asking

low flame
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Remember this? This is what I believe

surreal orbit
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“did the season got extended or something?”

low flame
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And since tu17 won’t be here tomorrow the season will be extended

elfin hazel
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I feel we would have gotten a tweet by now

low flame
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By my reasoning

surreal orbit
elfin hazel
plush otter
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yeah, a maintenance would normally be announced by now, still can happen but not great chances of it happening

elfin hazel
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wouldn't be the first time we've had a week or two of absolute nothing

surreal orbit
plush otter
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and without a patch, the timer will run out, as far as i understand they need a clientserver side patch for it to extend, cant be done just serverside without downtime

surreal orbit
low flame
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“By my reasoning” not saying it will happen, just that my reasoning says it may

surreal orbit
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So basically swag…. lol

next socket
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Why am I seeing pc role comments

surreal orbit
next socket
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Oh ok. Thought it was filtered

surreal orbit
next socket
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Ok thx! Appreciate it!

wise atlas
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is there an easy way to tell if I've gotten all blueprints?

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or which ones I still need to get

pure rain
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the crafting bench will tell you

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6/ of 10 etc

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and the ones you dont have will be greyed out

wise atlas
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oh cool, thanks

balmy cedar
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Cos mad men be tryna role play Reaper Lords style and yell at people when they suck at explaining lol

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If you join an experienced group either in this server or another one it should take you under 90 minutes for Dark Hours and probably under 120 minutes for Iron Horse… Iron Horse is more involved more so in breaking stuff so it makes you spend more time in each zone

red tundra
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Best way to try and get Memento. I’ve been farming Anderson for a week and no dice

balmy cedar
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That’s cause it’s random, only makes sense if you’re farming with 3 other people as that’s 4 chances of getting it.

Your better shot is at summit or mission targeted loot with directives and challenging or heroic difficulty

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I’d recommend heroic

cloud sage
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Farming materials to optimize a weapon can really kill your soul if you're intentionally doing it and feel anxious to see it through until it's maxed out 😣

balmy cedar
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Felt the same way

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I did it myself, was tryna do that with shd calibration and field recon data

cloud sage
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I spent the entire evening farming for better rolls on a MPX smg but eventually gave up and thought I'd optimize the one I got already. Now I'm afraid to go into Countdown in case a better one drops when I've already invested quite a bit in optimizing the low rolled one.

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Yeah I think I might just put on mental auto pilot and farm Resource Convoys. It'll slowly gain me SHD levels/Field Recon Data and Polycarbonate to make Hyena Tactical Assement from the drops. It's not consistent with what you get but over time it should build up.

balmy cedar
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I was thinking about running the weekly project on multiple characters … not worth it cause you’d get that amount in less time in countdown

rare vapor
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it's faster to just boost a char to level 40 and spend SHD points to top off SHD cali resources than anything else, which includes regular farming and weeklies on multiple alts

cloud sage
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True, I'm just not sure it's worth it yet for me. I'm at SHD 1176.

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It's 376 SHD points to spend on materials which is nice of course.

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I just realized that I'm wasting SHD points on Field Recon Data Bundles. You get 2 for each point but the point is better spent on Polycarbonate. You get 48 for each SHD point and it takes 50 Polycarbonate to craft a bundle of 5 Field Recon Data. Then of course another 50 Steel and Ceramics but I've got loads of that. Polycarbonate always seem to be the hardest resource to accumulate.

balmy cedar
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I’m shd 1620 or something like that… I got a good amount of points, I think one run through is worth it at that level for shd calibration

cloud sage
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Sorry, I remembered incorrectly, you get 50 Polycarbonate per SHD level. Even better.

wise atlas
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i just bought 80 season levels.. was that dumb? 🙂

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i just hit level 40 recently, and wanted all the stuff in the season before it ended... 🤷‍♂️

jagged prism
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well, season has been extended indefinitely atm

rare vapor
jagged prism
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then heard people say they were still going to do the live stream but don't see it in their list of videos so div2shrug

wise atlas
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meh, i don't feel that bad about it.. got some cool stuff 🙂

novel laurel
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^

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@smoky stag

rare vapor
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i would like some live streams happening though.

deep blaze
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the amount of people I meet who learn you can fast travel on the map above SHD level 200+ is worrisome

hazy spire
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Anyone crashing when you try switching to the DC map?

brazen mountain
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I cannot believe that

deep blaze
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I mean I already found it a bit questionable even while levelling and nearing 40, surely you'd notice it at some point but nope happens even after that...just someone running literally across the entire DC map to a bounty while I'm already there with fast travel (so I guess they never wondered why some people seem to disappear away so fast and are already at their destination much quicker)

lunar nimbus
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Just got the damn Capacitor from solo Heroic

deep blaze
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so I usually chime in carefully explaining it a little that you can fast travel to places and even friendlies on the map, worried that I might seem condescending as if I'm telling someone hold W to walk forward

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and it's surprising how many people genuinely learn it then for first time

lunar nimbus
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How some people have 400k = 600k primary weapon damage, even though their primary weapon only has like 80k - 100k damage?

deep blaze
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lots of buffs come into play amping it up

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talent from gearset/chest/backpack/weapon/specialisation and on top you have crits, headshots, crit headshots

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it all quickly adds up a ton

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and separate type of buffs multiplicatively increase each other

lunar nimbus
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Oh yeah, forgot to think about that. Most of the players with that are at level 1000ish, so they pretty much have all the SHD watch upgrades unlocked.

deep blaze
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the watch doesn't really add much, it's just rounds you out a bit

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I barely do more damage now than at SHD 30, as long as you have a fully maxed build, for example

lunar nimbus
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Seeing someone cleared rooms full of elites on Heroic difficulty on Summit made my jaw dropped. I literally just walked around without doing much, since that guy already killed all the enemies 😂

deep blaze
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ya heroic is incredibly quick to clear even in 4 mans

lunar nimbus
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Dude was level 10k jesus

deep blaze
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those buffs stack up hard, like my M4 says 105k damage just base on inventory, but I can be doing 1.6M crits with it

cloud sage
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Well, maxed out watch is kind of noticeable. You have 10% extra damage, 20% extra crit damage and the 10% extra crit chance makes you reach cap easier and can spend gear mods or attributes on even more crit damage.

deep blaze
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well yea for sure but it won't make you go that much of a difference, it's nice for sure though

lunar nimbus
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I don't really see much difference to my turret and drone with the Capacitor

deep blaze
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like it won't be a huge part of why you go from stats screen saying 100k on your AR to doing 1.5M per bullet

deep blaze
lunar nimbus
deep blaze
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I just did a quick test range and turret hits around 27% more

lunar nimbus
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1.5% per stack and can stack up to 40, so that's 60%?

deep blaze
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since it adds like 60% skill damage, but that's diminishing returns with your other skill damage stats

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if you have 0 other skill damage somehow then yea it'd be a 60% increase but the more you have the less relative increase it'll be

lunar nimbus
deep blaze
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skill haste isn't too great for turret drone as they last really long and have short downtime

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so focus on skill damage wherever possible, and after that haste isn't bad (it can be neat to have less downtime as maybe you're worried of safety in that bit, or to occasionally flexibly swap to a skill that benefits from it) but you can easily add another stat type

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I for example have all skill damage + armour regen on turret/drone build so it has like 30k/s passive armour regen so I don't ever worry about survivability much on it even if I'm helping with shooting a bunch (and if there's a team involved, I help taking aggro even more for teammates so my weapon DPS members have an easier time, I can soak up more threat myself and regen it back)

lunar nimbus
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It doesn't decrease the cooldown that much too after 70%. Skill haste 90% removes only like 1 - 2 seconds compared to Skill haste 70%. I should spend more on Skill damage

deep blaze
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yea it's also diminishing the more you stack it, only really good if you just value it above all or really highly like perhaps certain CC builds (especially for legendary where CC lasts so short you need to output a lot)

lunar nimbus
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What's a CC?

deep blaze
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crowd control

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like foaming (so enemies are rooted and for a bit usually also can't shoot back), blinded, on fire, confused, shocked etc

lunar nimbus
deep blaze
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it can prevent enemies from moving/going into a certain place which is nice (like not going into cover and scattering around), but it's also a huge defensive and offensive benefit since if enemies can't shoot back, you're essentially invulnerable, and they're much easier to hit

lunar nimbus
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Right now. I'm planning to grind for Rigger, Empress, and Future Initiative gears.

deep blaze
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I think my regular drone turret is around at 120 skill damage but I might be missing some

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I don't really ever use it so I didn't really look further into it

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but it's the standard high end build with it which is I think the strongest by far if going for drone turret in specific (3x empress + 2x hana-u 1 wyvern or swap one for waveform)

lunar nimbus
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I like turret / drone build, since I don't really do much work 😂

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I want to run healer build, but someone said it's not viable.

deep blaze
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skill haste is down to only 66% on it but I think that's perfectly fine for a turret drone build

deep blaze
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like technically for most 4 man content I think 3 full red weapon DPS + 1 dedicated CC is best, but that's at optimal-ish play

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you can make a healer work fine if that's what you'd enjoy doing, but I'd suggest not focussing too hard on the healing aspect (as it's very easy to have too much, it's a zero sum game, if someone's healed to full then doing more won't help), and making sure you have as many tools in it as possible to help team damage, that can add up (perfect opportunistic, scorpio, survivalist, sledgehammer and such)

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this all of course outside of specific situations like some places in raid I presume where you do need one of course

sweet star
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Off to play hogwarts legacy Sumbetches peace’s

lunar nimbus
deep blaze
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yea there's definitely a lot of situations where there's no need for it and hinders your team kind of compared to you not being there or being swapped, so there's for sure some people who might even be upset at it or at best you feel a bit useless
but if it's something you enjoy doing then it can be made to work (you might just indeed be disappointed at how often you feel like you're actually doing something)

lunar nimbus
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I'm going for full Turret / Drone build right now for Summit and Story missions. and DPS build for Count Down grinding. I might retry Healer build but that's for later time.

deep blaze
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if you have a full on "set my teammate's damage up" with it then you do noticeably increase the output of the 3 others (10% amp from survivalist by having status effects on enemies, quite easy with just scorpio alone, 20% from scorpio's 7th hit, 30/40% DtA from sledgehammer, +25% TWD and skill damage to allies which can be diminished but is still nice, it all adds up if you're using it all optimally) so you're still doing stuff, it's just say a CC setup could do practically the same but also add a lot of game changing CC

But again, if it's more fun for you, that's a very legit argument for using that build in nearly any content

deep blaze
lunar nimbus
smoky meteor
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So we still don't have a rough idea on the next Season, right?

rare vapor
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a rough idea? we do.

plain trail
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You're not completely useless if you get caught alone

lunar nimbus
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How do you avoid "accidentally" delete your loadout gears?

plain trail
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Favorite

lunar nimbus
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Oh, I forgot that feature XD

lunar nimbus
smoky stag
lunar nimbus
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I found a support build on Reddit, but the build needs Coyote mask and BTSU gloves. Probably a long grind for the build.

plain trail
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well i wouldn't trust that build, cuz you can't use both coyote and btsu gloves

plain trail
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the core concept of the build is to invest just enough

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so that you can permanently keep up +25% dmg buff for everyone

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and invest the rest of your shit into damage so you can kill stuff if you need to

lunar nimbus
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Eh, I'll be sometime before I can run Count Down without getting kick repeatedly 😂 . I'll ask again in probably after a week or two after intense SHD level grinding.

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Right now. Summit and DC are my home.

plain trail
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are you doing countdown challenging?

smoky stag
plain trail
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people will kick in heroic, but challenging should be fine

lunar nimbus
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I can't find anyone on Challenging.

fiery cloud
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Hey sniper.wolf

lunar nimbus
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It's so easy to get to 150 items now after completing WONY. I never had my inventory full when grinding through campaign.

brazen mountain
deep blaze
lunar nimbus
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No one in Asia plays Challenging Count Down. I find Heroic summit to be more relaxing on new players.

brazen mountain
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Sadness

lunar nimbus
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😂

brazen mountain
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People are much better in summit

smoky stag
lunar nimbus
smoky stag
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if you have a decent starter build that makes sense, just go into heroic countdown if you want. can easily avoid being kicked by being the creator of the session

lunar nimbus
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I'mma try again after I have a good DPS build.

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And after I have Technician unlocked as well.

lunar nimbus
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Man, attempting to complete Iron Horse is a pain in my region. No one listen. Just run around and shoot stuff 😂

river wyvern
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question, the talent on ur secondary weapon is not activated when the weapon is holstered right?

cloud sage
river wyvern
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thank u!

brazen mountain
deft atlas
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so I have a question there was news that the next season is going to be delayed

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does that mean that the current season battle pass thing will still be available for a while longer? Because the timer still says 2 hours left in season 10, and i have some more farming to do to get to lv 67

balmy cedar
balmy cedar
lunar nimbus
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Is Chameleon Exotic Vector good for DPS build?

brazen mountain
deep blaze
# lunar nimbus Is Chameleon Exotic Vector good for DPS build?

I think it has a bit more added value on builds that don't go hard on red cores, like on very tanky setups the benefit of it is higher
otherwise it's quite meh because while with all buffs active it's quite potent (but still might be restrictive with the SMG playstyle/low range), it's not consistent

lunar nimbus
deep blaze
# brazen mountain Lol it's a AR

it's a Vector, they're right
it's classified as an AR so AR bonusses apply (not SMG) but for all intents and purposes it's vector, in handling/range etc

brazen mountain
deep blaze
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Vectors are an SMG in this game (and most shooters I've seen so far)

brazen mountain
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I know

lunar nimbus
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I didn't say that it's a SMG, I just said Chameleon Vector 😂

deft atlas
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Chameleon uses rifle ammo and also does not shoot at vector speed of 1200 RPM 😦

brazen mountain
deep blaze
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It's a bit inconsistent and a regular high end weapon usually outperforms it on a weapon DPS build by a good margin

lunar nimbus
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ngl, even if it's bad for a build, the design of that gun looks smooth af

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Looks like something from 2040

brazen mountain
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It's good enough for a dps build

deep blaze
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Yeah but that's every weapon then 😂

deft atlas
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its above average, but not S tier

brazen mountain
brazen mountain
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Good enough to be viable

deep blaze
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also it's far from above average

lunar nimbus
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Why some people run DPS build with semi-auto rifle? I saw M1A is famous for this. Joined a Summit raid and saw multiple people using it.

brazen mountain
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One of the better DMR's

nimble scroll
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Hi everyone, i was wondering will there be any maintenance break today?

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Sonce season 11 won't be coming

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*since

deep blaze
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M1A classic has a lot going and it's good if you don't need RPM for keeping up stacks of any kind, you have very high damage per mag (especially with boomerang), you have decent sustained DPS but also just really high individual hits so if an enemy peaks you very quickly stagger them and/or just oneshot their heads, and because of lower RoF (but higher damage per bullet) it's much easier to control for longer ranges too

nimble scroll
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I didn't saw any tweets after tweet of delay one

lunar nimbus
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Do they carry out maintenance often? Can't remember one since I bought on Steam.

brazen mountain
deep blaze
# brazen mountain ok

idk just saying, it's anywhere from somewhat below average to very far below average depending on statistics for a weapon damage build with a niche strength, but of course most weapons can be used just fine
(mainly looking at consistency, buff uptimes, and burst / sustain DPS compared to other ARs and SMGs)

brazen mountain
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ok

lunar nimbus
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On average, how many items got added in each seasons? I hope we get a lot of loot added in S11.

deep blaze
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but, just like most weapons/builds in the game, if it's fun for you to use it go ahead, it'll still be good

lunar nimbus
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Imagine being able to play as Black Tusk and invade people playing Invaded missions, similar to the Invasion system in Doom Eternal Pog

brazen mountain
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Darksouls

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But being able to play as black tusk would be so annoying for other agents

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Because grenade war hounds

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are rigged

deep blaze
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Playing as your own character would be far worse no, since you could just massacre everyone with perfect PvP builds vs PvE players

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black tusk are strong with their numbers + flanking, and somehow insane accuracy with grenade launchers from 2 continents away

brazen mountain
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Not make your character black tusk like that

lunar nimbus
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Yeah, I can see more balancing issue with this gamemode. Seems like a good idea if everyone is running similar builds.

deep blaze
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and how the play as an enemy in the world would be at least far less annoying

lunar nimbus
brazen mountain
deep blaze
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especially the white tusk usually don't toy around for sure, they seem very aggressive but also not always just "run ahead no matter what" aggressive, like if you mow them down a bit too much the rest of the pushers also run back to wait for more

brazen mountain
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No but fr if you could play as grenade war hounds it'd be dumb

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By that

deep blaze
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it'd be funny but you'd also be a huge target, I think it'd incentivise people to finally use EMP, the yellow sniper dogs would be I think the most dangerous as a player enemy out of their robots, and you'd really want to use EMP in that case

brazen mountain
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I mean broken

lunar nimbus
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How about, a skill gadget that let you hack into Black Tusk robots, like that one Aussie operator from R6: Siege.

brazen mountain
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Like controlling a war hound

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Getting payback because you got blown up 10000 times

smoky stag
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hack pulse
hack enemy skill proxies
overcharge lets you control bigger robotics or multiple skills

deep blaze
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thinking about that that's funny how enemy hunters can hack our gadgets like they're the latest Skynet T-3000 on a whim while ISAC won't allows us to even hack into a little minitank with the controller of a washing machine on board

brazen mountain
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Hacker firefly lol

lunar nimbus
brazen mountain
deep blaze
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luckily they only put expertise level 1283 on their armour but forgot to upgrade weapons

weary oxide
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hi all what the fastest way to level up?

lunar nimbus
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Is there a leg meta build in this game?

lone tinsel
lunar nimbus
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I mean that’s what I usually run when I play Vector in Tarkov.

devout island
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noo s11 😢

weary oxide
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ok

lone tinsel
lunar nimbus
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I wonder how long will they keep supporting TD1 and 2. It’s amazing how Division 1 is still up and running

lean ingot
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so is the season actually ending in 13 minutes or no?

nimble scroll
lean ingot
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will the game enter maintenance mode or can i still play?

nimble scroll
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Although we can wait for 10 mi n and see for ourselves.

nimble scroll
lean ingot
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neither can I, i’m just gonna wait the 9 minutes and watch narcos, if it don’t kick me out i’m gonna grind for my build

nimble scroll
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Well let's see that after 7 min.

merry scarab
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just had a run in with 2 rogue agents I was panicked at first because I was doing a heroic checkpoint and had run out of med kits but luckily found one on the roof and Im guessing due to the friendly ar they split up about 1 steet down from eachother and I killed them both btw why do rogue agents always wear there masks?

nimble scroll
merry scarab
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so am I the only one who is sick of the outcasts they are by far the most annoying faction in the game with there stupid rv's and the fact that somehow the always roll up when Im doing shit

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I just got double tapped by a fucking outcasts while doing angel

worthy compass
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Imo cleaners are worse, constantly being set on fire is a pain

nimble scroll
nimble scroll
merry scarab
nimble scroll
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Warhounds runs around in open especially the one with mg

worthy compass
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Warhounds make me go feral with their armour

viscid cargo
merry scarab
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I usually dont have a problem with the MG's and snipers the grenadiers are the real pain

nimble scroll
worthy compass
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Yeah ik but I'm too inaccurate to hit warhound joints

viscid cargo
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Grenade and sniper bots you can shoot the legs, minigun bots you can shoot the ass, or keep shooting the weak point that disables them

worthy compass
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I just pull out the cluster mines

merry scarab
viscid cargo
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After theyre disabled minigun bots take straight health damage when shot in the joint

viscid cargo
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They kinda just die instantly lol

worthy compass
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The minigun dudes arent that bad if you just run turret

viscid cargo
worthy compass
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True

merry scarab
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the minigun jugs are a joke same with outcast jugs the real pain are GL jugs

viscid cargo
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Also i like chungas. Free 200 striker stacks

nimble scroll
viscid cargo
merry scarab
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but yeah I was doing angels summoning ritual and was fighting him and next thing I know some outcasts pull up and run my fade

nimble scroll
worthy compass
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Can we all agree the aerial recon drones suck because of how bad they are

viscid cargo
worthy compass
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Yeah

viscid cargo
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Theyre annoying as hell

lean ingot
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well we good, time to grind

nimble scroll
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No maintenance break let's goo

merry scarab
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oop invasion time

lean ingot
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LETS GOOO

viscid cargo
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Which strongholds?

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Dont tell me its manning

merry scarab
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its manning

worthy compass
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Yay invasion. Time to go fail 30 times

round grail
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zoo

worthy compass
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God Manning is the most tedious mission

viscid cargo
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Manning is ASS

merry scarab
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I like manning with the outcasts but manning with the black tusk sounds like suffering

worthy compass
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It's all fun and games until manning is invasion

nimble scroll
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Wtf i thought this week will be capitol building

merry scarab
nimble scroll
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Manning Invasion is pain in the ass

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Have to kill bunch of recruits of black tusk with mortar running

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Many many mortars

worthy compass
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3h of mortar launching

merry scarab
#

wait does the manning zoo mission with black tusk have new dialouge

nimble scroll
merry scarab
#

But yeah looks like Im gonna have to collect angels lion eyes again

worthy compass
#

I bet you'll be having LOADS of fun with that

merry scarab
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killing angel is the easy part

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getting the lion eyes is the tedious part

naive sand
#

wait wat? season gone? i thought they delay it

viscid cargo
merry scarab
merry scarab
viscid cargo
#

Fast traveling at any point when doing neurotic breaks it so you have to start over

merry scarab
#

and I finished chirpys mission today

naive sand
#

yea they removed season completely

viscid cargo
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I learned that the hard way, waited a full in game day for neurotic just to have it break cause i fast traveled

nimble scroll
slow marsh
#

The season is over? Is the prime target manhunt still there? I wanted to farm exotics

merry scarab
#

btw after doing wony does dc feel more chaotic

merry scarab
round grail
#

Ay yo where did the world difficulty and modifiers go??

nimble scroll
viscid cargo
nimble scroll
round grail
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Oh

merry scarab
#

so wait is our game diffculty set to default again?

worthy compass
#

Mb I stole your difficulty

viscid cargo
#

Try restarting the game

nimble scroll
#

Now what we have to play in normal in every cp

viscid cargo
nimble scroll
merry scarab
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btw Im confused what is the summit exactly?

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like lore wise

naive sand
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wtf wheres my difficulty

viscid cargo
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You go clear it

viscid cargo
nimble scroll
#

Again and again

deep blaze
#

Lore is Manny heard there's lots of loot there so he sent us there and we were like loot 👀👀👀👀

elfin hazel
#

difficulty & directives are infact gone probably due to no season

round grail
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Lame

nimble scroll
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No difficulty settings after restarting

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Bummer

deep blaze
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Maybe the planned to potentially change the world directives with new season, and the previous one had its settings expire today
But they forgot about that when they delayed new season start

viscid cargo
nimble scroll
naive sand
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they removed difficulty and directive

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gg

merry scarab
#

question when you guys think of the divsion whats the first img that pops into your head

worthy compass
#

Cleaner Jug exploding

nimble scroll
naive sand
fair marten
#

can't reset control points anymore?

merry scarab
#

Honestly for me its always the phoenix or the vector

nimble scroll
fair marten
#

so theres no way to farm bps anymore?

nimble scroll
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Don't know they are gonna introduce new one with new season

deep blaze
#

looks like no more summit & CD available either for me since season ended

viscid cargo
#

We’ll probably see a hotfix semi soon

nimble scroll
viscid cargo
#

Doubt this is intentional

nimble scroll
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The difficulty in summit and directive is still there

deep blaze
#

this also broke the upper right part of the map for me, the issue lot of people had during the manhunt, I never had it probably since I finished it quickly on my own world

viscid cargo
deep blaze
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now the game's crashing when going to upper right corner of map, except the usual fix of "reset your manhunt progress" is kind of not a thing now

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so no open world, no summit, no CD, I guess it's time for a bit of a break

nimble scroll
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And now i have issue of go to manny in white house

nimble scroll
deep blaze
#

yea I guess one thing to do would be to do wony again for SHD materials but just did a couple of that earlier

worthy compass
#

You can create a new character, boost to 30 then farm DZ at low level, that's what I'm doing

nimble scroll
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*can

worthy compass
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Exactly

smoky stag
#

Nice. Now we cant reset the map or change difficulty LOL

topaz sparrow
#

^^same

deep dome
#

yall, my game just bugged out hella. the manhunts all say 0% availible in 0m 00s. i was just doing the prime target mission that was timed, and died at the end so went back to washington

deep blaze
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season ended, manhunt is over 😔

topaz sparrow
#

My current situation is that I can't reset map, can't change difficulty. directives on missions are also out of use. and a prompt saying meet manny at the white house *

deep dome
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fr? thats fucked, id have just finished it. damn

topaz sparrow
#

yeah, season ended 39min ago

pure rain
#

Looks like avatar is gonna be a great game. seems like they have resouces on it

green meteor
#

When will the next season start? Wasn't it supposed to today?

topaz sparrow
#

so they delayed it

rugged tinsel
#

Does anyone want to join up and farm CP with me on heroic? Trying to finish my blueprints

nimble scroll
nimble scroll
rugged tinsel
#

Wdym?

hoary condor
#

DC map crashes my game lul

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I'm trapped in New York

rugged tinsel
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I just got on lol

#

Ohhhh

naive sand
#

and u can't reset CP

topaz sparrow
# rugged tinsel Wdym?

there's currently a bug where you can't reset CP and change difficulty. so farming CP is gonna be a lot more annoying

rugged tinsel
#

Literally just closed the game and reopened it and as soon as I spawned in and I was able to fly back to DC

nimble scroll
rugged tinsel
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Ima check real quick

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I just got on so give me a sec

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Oh damn

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You’re right

errant heron
#

When you reconfigure an exotic, are the new stats random or always improved?

winter radish
#

random

nimble scroll
naive sand
#

its random
they gave me worst

errant heron
#

Oh shit

fluid island
#

anyone got a bug where you can't change global settings? (pressing Z on Map)

pure rain
nimble scroll
#

Hold on i just played with one player invaded Jefferson centre he had challenging difficulty with 4 directives on how was that possible

pure rain
#

cant change global difficulty - missions seem to be fine

deep blaze
#

but then again the invaded missions change too and I think you get thrown out so that's interesting 🤔

nimble scroll
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His name was eyecare or eyescare somthing around 730 watch level

deep blaze
#

maybe they just have a really good gaming chair

nimble scroll
rugged tinsel
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My global setting is on heroic still

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That’s all I play on lol

abstract dew
#

So is season over or what

rugged tinsel
#

Yeah

fluid island
#

thank goodness I changed to Challenging a while back

nimble scroll
#

I think it is possible whoever change difficulty before invesion are now stuck with those settings. Difficulty and directives

deep blaze
#

I checked the directives, they're not active for me (and had them active before), but the XP levels suggest I'm also still in heroic (without directives)

topaz verge
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my directives are gone

fervent berry
#

Is this global directives issue limited to PC?

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First time I've heard of this

deep blaze
#

well it started an hour ago

fluid island
deep blaze
#

since that's when the week ended and season ended

upper ginkgo
nimble scroll
fervent berry
#

I play on Xbox and I genuinely haven't heard of this problem until I read some comments up top

nimble scroll
round grail
#

Wat

deep blaze
nimble scroll
#

?

fervent berry
#

Global difficulties were fine for me at that time, can't say for sure now

nimble scroll
lean fog
#

anyone have crashes on PC?

nimble scroll
topaz verge
lean fog
#

i cant access the map, it just freezes

topaz sparrow
fervent berry
deep blaze
#

yus it's since the week and season ended 59 minutes ago 😭

fervent berry
#

Dang my dudes, I suppose I lucked out 😂

topaz sparrow
#

after the weekly reset of the Black tusk invasion

deep blaze
#

yessir

nimble scroll
abstract dew
nimble scroll
unborn ravine
#

Game broke, don't worry, they will fix next Tuesday. 😛

fervent berry
nimble scroll
#

*not

topaz sparrow
#

who knows, they used to have sudden maintenance

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let's just hope they did their job(which rarely happens)

azure lintel
nimble scroll
#

F to thsose who have bought game recently from steam. Welcome to the weekly shit load of issues.

#

🤣🤣

fluid island
winter radish
#

I like how it now started crashing for me when I hover over the top right of the map or use the pilot to travel anywhere. div2love

fluid island
#

they never had... they didn't even fix Pentagon for years

nimble scroll
#

I am gonna wait for 24 hours if no tweets or fix are not available than switch to the hogwart legecy (new mobile lookalike game🤣🤣)

nimble scroll
#

☹️☹️

fluid island
#

a lot of Ubi projects got cancelled and delayed

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since I heard they are in a verge of bankruptcy

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Right now, they are focusing on Assassin's Creed Mirage

nimble scroll
fluid island
#

probably that game is their last chance

nimble scroll
unborn ravine
#

Nah, Heartland, Avatar and star wards will save them.

nimble scroll
#

I have really high hope for ac mirage and avatar.

fluid island
nimble scroll
#

Don't when they are gonna give proper gp of avtar or even proper date.

fluid island
unborn ravine
brazen mountain
nimble scroll
fluid island
nimble scroll
nimble scroll
brazen mountain
#

Never even played forspoken

lone tinsel
#

Did season 10 ended?

brazen mountain
nimble scroll
#

Than they went for rpg vibe for ac origin and bamm no good ac games

plush otter
nimble scroll
#

3 of those are most of the trash.

formal mortar
# lone tinsel Did season 10 ended?

Yeah it's been replaced with "Season 11 Crash: your job is to move the cursor on the map to the top right to unlock the awesome new instant game crash"

brazen mountain
lone tinsel
#

Is countdown still a thing

nimble scroll
brazen mountain
nimble scroll
fluid island
brazen mountain
#

What made you think it wasn't???

lone tinsel
#

That remind me, still need to get more Gear mods

deep blaze
brazen mountain
deep blaze
#

since it's highly illegal to move your cursor to the general area of upper right corner on the map

lone tinsel
#

Ik this topic is a bit iffy but I’ve been wondering if I should stay with Crits or make my build full on Headshot dmg only

brazen mountain
nimble scroll
fluid island
brazen mountain
deep blaze
nimble scroll
tepid edge
#

I cannot get out of NY map to the White House. Any shortcut fix? It crashes game.

deep blaze
brazen mountain
deep blaze
#

but that might be doable from NY map

fluid island
nimble scroll
winter radish
brazen mountain
#

A spoiler for new players bro

deep blaze
#

pog summit is indeed selectable from NYC map of course, makes sense

tepid edge
nimble scroll
#

So i am looking dc map from like 4 months are they planning to bring back expedition. Like kennely college.

tepid edge
fluid island
deep blaze
#

I assume the bug people had with the upper right corner of map crashing related to manhunt might also have been the reason people crash going from NYC back to DC

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I have both of those too now

tepid edge
deep blaze
#

Though I don't think I've seen the recommendation to reset manhunt for coming back to DC from NY to fix that, I wonder if that would've fixed that too

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I guess now only way is to get a matchmade group kidnap you back to DC map

nimble scroll
lone tinsel
#

That 60% CHC cap ain’t nice tho, feels like it hardstomps DPS but then again not every hit should be a crit

deep blaze
upper ginkgo
# fluid island did the crashes happened repeatedly?

Yes, quite reproducible. My hardcore character was stuck in NY. The solution is obviously finding a friend with a character in DC to travel to (but good luck on hardcore… I had to call somebody to dust off his inactive hardcore character located in DC).

nimble scroll
deep blaze
# lone tinsel Ik this topic is a bit iffy but I’ve been wondering if I should stay with Crits ...

the advice about the pinned builds spreadsheet is great but just wanted to quickly add most builds usually use CHC+CHD (crit chance + crit damage) to do a lot of damage with crits, it's strong and applies unconditionally/universally regardless of target and aim (you still get a huge increase without headshots)
while with headshots one issue is (next to needing to land headshots with aim) is a fair amount of enemies, some of the more dangerous and high health ones, don't even have heads to shoot for HSD to work
Certain builds (mostly the ones using headhunter talent) of course revolve around it but I'd say they're the exception more like

grave palm
#

i love this game, now when u open the map the game crash ❤️

#

The Dibugvision 2 ❤️

lone tinsel
nimble scroll
deep blaze
nimble scroll
lone tinsel
deep blaze
#

I don't think building CHD makes sense unless you're using something to guarantee it like diamondback, CHC and CHD go in tandem for efficiency (and too much of either without the other is weak)

bitter cave
#

Hey did the new season start ?

nimble scroll
lone tinsel
nimble scroll
bitter cave
#

Ok thank you

lone tinsel
fluid island
deep blaze
#

Also on a CHC+CHD+HSD build, every HSD you replace back to CHD is a straight up damage increase (even if you focus on headshots, CHD adds more to headshot damage than HSD on that, and again no matter how well you aim some enemies just don't have heads so you're stuck with basically no HSD against those and thus practically no stats)

nimble scroll
nimble scroll
lone tinsel
deep blaze
#

well it's a looter shooter the loot won't loot itself 🤣

#

got to get that grind going

nimble scroll
lone tinsel
#

Don’t say it, i’m aware of the embed fail.

deep blaze
#

I find Div2 to be one of the most respectful of one's time, compared to most other grind/looter games though, you can obtain so much and pretty much guaranteed maxed in so little time relatively

nimble scroll
grave palm
#

When the new season release ?

nimble scroll
deep blaze
#

between now and soonTM™️(tm)

lone tinsel
grave palm
#

@nimble scroll ??

lone tinsel
grave palm
#

Thanks

lone tinsel
#

Fastball: is Waveform good.

toxic flume
#

Probably next week but we may never know.

deep blaze
nimble scroll
lone tinsel
#

But I mostly want weapon mods

toxic flume
#

At the end of the day. The quicker we get Season 11, the quicker Year 5 comes. Lol 😂

nimble scroll
#

I made it possible with one my friend and his group.

deep blaze
nimble scroll
#

It is also possible by finishing weekly projects

nimble scroll
lone tinsel
deep blaze
lone tinsel
#

It’d be a nice QOL if Ubi allows obtaining more than 1 BP per Control point cap on higher difficulties, would really cut the BP collecting by a margin

deep blaze
#

but if you're specifically after a good build if it uses gearsets that's obtainable very very quickly with TL

#

don't think it's even worth the crafting materials to craft (most) gearsets as with just one attribute it's very quick to obtain the ones you need

hollow vigil
#

bruh what happened overnight, now the game crashes when opening the map lol

nimble scroll
#

Yeah finding gears are not hard but finding specific gear set bp is little hard.

deep blaze
nimble scroll
nimble scroll
hollow vigil
deep blaze
#

with blueprint you guaranteed get one you don't have yet from CPs so in no time you have everything learnt except a couple ones from special sources

viscid cargo
nimble scroll
hollow vigil
hollow vigil
#

i wonder if its only affecting me

nimble scroll
hollow vigil
nimble scroll
#

It might take week

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Or maybe they release small patch

hollow vigil
nimble scroll
hollow vigil
#

shame tho was really excited to finish the manhunt

nimble scroll
#

I hope someone from td2 team sees, posts and messages from chat and take actions

hollow vigil
#

hoping so

nimble scroll
#

Untill then time to rest our pc and consoles💀💀

hollow vigil
#

lol cant live without d2

pliant sentinel
#

havent crashed when i used islc

hollow vigil
pliant sentinel
#

lemme get the reddit post for it

deep blaze
# pliant sentinel havent crashed when i used islc

with season end right this morning (as of 2 hours ago of writing this) we got a crash bug back that was a bug with the manhunt that no other external fix helped for btw, you can't fix this and it's 100% guaranteed success rate happening

blazing gull
#

Played Div2 for 100+ hrs for the past 2 weeks with very few crashes (Not noticeable) but today, when I open the map and try to go to the upper right corner (to the summit), it crashes. Tried three times and crashes when I do the exact thing. Is it the technical issue they talked about?

hollow vigil
pliant sentinel
deep blaze
#

yessir, normally fix was to reset your manhunt progress

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which is kind of hard to do now

blazing gull
#

Yeah the manhunt. The game don't like it when I'm about to go into that area on the map

pliant sentinel
#

can i buy shit with my textiles now

upper ginkgo
deep blaze
#

so now good chance you're guaranteed crashing every time your mouse moves to the upper right of the map, or if you want to go back to DC map from NYC (need to matchmake to a DC group to get back)

blazing gull
blazing gull
deep blaze
#

that one is just another fix that can help you have generally less crashes that happen pretty much completely randomly

blazing gull
#

I don't wanna change anything cz normally, i don't get crashes. I played for 300mins+ (With personal breaks of course with the game running) without any crashes.

nimble scroll
devout island
blazing gull
#

I'm just waiting for Sons of The Forest... Very excited..

nimble scroll
deep blaze
# blazing gull I don't wanna change anything cz normally, i don't get crashes. I played for 300...

don't want to be too cynical and hope you'll enjoy more stability than most here, but 5 hours isn't too long and even for those where the game is fairly unstable they still occasionally manage 5 hours
It's something you'll know more for sure after at least many tens or hundreds of hours in the game
but yea if it's not crashing, try to not change anything to be sure, I swear alignment of Jupiter can already make things bad

devout island
nimble scroll
nimble scroll
blazing gull
devout island
#

mhmm, make sense

#

gonna do same thing

deep blaze
#

I'm torn on season pass for S11, I don't like rewarding studios where they're not really putting a lot of love into a product but on other hand kind of want to show that there's still support and worth in the game, and well I'm getting tons of hours out of it so it's worth when looking at cost/hour of entertainment perspective

nimble scroll
deep blaze
#

pretty sure season pass in Div2 is not really giving you anything you'd need to specifically see other creators talk about though, it's mostly just a bit more random rewards from the season levelling and cosmetics I think

without it you're still levelling your season pass the same way (just not the premium half of it) and doing everything else the same

charred igloo
#

Anyone facing issue with map missing global difficulty change ??

blazing gull
nimble scroll
deep blaze
devout island
#

and also, not P2W. this is what makes it good

deep blaze
#

ya just cosmetic + kind of showing support for the game you like, best type usually

nimble scroll
devout island
#

mhmm, best type of way to enjoy stuff

nimble scroll
devout island
#

but on the otherside, its also RnG games so it does make sense in sort of point

nimble scroll
#

Still supporting game is good motive than showing cool stuff to others

devout island
blazing gull
#

Didn't install any fresh windows though... since the upgrade*

deep blaze
#

occasionally I saw people be sad/mad that some deluxe/ultimate version of the game didn't give them so and so good weapons, I'm personally really glad I don't need to pay any more to have basically all the strongest stuff be available for me

deep blaze
nimble scroll
devout island
#

sorry to mentioned other games, but its same as Destiny 2 where you play to grind the strongest stuff to become powerful. same thing happen here. but you pay to play it forever. Destiny 2 you need to grab some DLC. both are great games.

deep blaze
#

ya I get the convenience for those that have money to spent but it's a slippery slope and just no fun to know you can't really get as strong as someone who's spent (more) money

devout island
deep blaze
#

DLC makes sense, same thing happened with Div2 too, where after some point into the lifetime of the game you get a new expansion with bunch of new features you didn't have originally at release, I'd not consider that P2W unless it's done in a really bad taste

blazing gull
#

I'm just annoyed of Ubisoft Connect giving me login timed out every now and then lol

nimble scroll
slow marsh
#

I want to play countdown but every time I hover over to that side of the map the game crashes

nimble scroll
blazing gull
slow marsh
#

We were supposed to get S11 but got this instead lol

blazing gull
#

art of technicality...

last plover
#

still can't change difficulty??

charred igloo
last plover
#

classic ubisift

blazing gull
#

Well, they at least mentioned when I launched the game that we would face issues like errors.

tropic compass
#

Vendors reset?

blazing gull
wild raptor
#

Does skill dmg affect skills that do burning damage for example

#

Like the chemlauncher burn variation

#

Or is that only increased via stasis effect

smoky stag
#

yes

wild raptor
#

I’m sorry so it does contribute?

smoky stag
#

yep

wild raptor
#

So like why would we ever choose status effect over skill dmg

deep blaze
#

Status effects increase status damage by same amount, but also increase duration

smoky stag
#

status effect attributes determine how long a status effect lasts

wild raptor
#

Ahh I see

#

So that’s the difference

robust geyser
#

It's a double wammy

deep blaze
#

so I think if you add 10% skill damage then every burn tick gets that 10% damage increase, while adding 10% status effect makes every burn tick 10% more too but also the burn lasts longer (so you get more ticks in total as it lasts longer, same DPS when active but more total damage)

smoky stag
#

you not only want high ticks you want em to tick for a longer period

wild raptor
#

Yeah that would make sense

#

Thanks a lot, also hey Apple good to see you again

deep blaze
#

Hello there!

wild raptor
#

I’m still learning about the game and all xd

deep blaze
#

Only thing also is status effects don't apply to the initial explosion you might have with the skill too

wild raptor
#

Right

#

I’m trying to create a build with eclipse protocol

#

Unfortunately don’t have the vile exotic mask but I think it’s still strong, ish

#

Anyone on Xbox got a spare xd

robust geyser
#

At least it's easy to farm exos

deep blaze
#

On EP generally you put status effects everywhere where you can, and fill in with either skill haste if you go for CC (crowd control, like foam/blind etc), or skill damage if going for the burn variation

wild raptor
#

Farming ecosystem via countdown right?

#

Exos

deep blaze
#

and don't worry vile adds some nice damage but it doesn't make or break the build at all

robust geyser
#

Jepp, and you can also buy exo caches

#

through it

deep blaze
#

and you can only share items if you obtained them while those people were in your group, and only for 1h after it dropped 😔

wild raptor
#

Yeah I’m planning to do the burn 🔥

#

Oh so that’s how it is xd

robust geyser
#

I would love to have someone get me Nemisis lol

wild raptor
#

Because I wanna farm shd levels

deep blaze
#

ah yea for the convoys

wild raptor
#

Yeppp

#

You know it

deep blaze
#

it's tricky because if the enemies spread around it's tougher to deal with them
but it's fun if you get it right where they spawn
I kind of gave up on that, if you do it right it's probably really great but I just farm convoys insanely fast with regular weapon DPS to mow them down and not worry much about whether they spread and where anything comes from (as I usually zone out more and watch YT or something too while doing them)

slow marsh
#

Game was crashing while trying to enter summit through map, so relaunched the game tried to do it through the pilot the game briefly showed the map automatically and crashed again, lmao, I feel that maintenance break coming.

robust geyser
#

Wait what?

wild raptor
#

Yeah it’s about farming in specific spots maybe and knowing where the enemies will come out etc

deep blaze
#

I got burnt (heh) a bit too many times not landing it right where and when they come out or getting flanked and then it's quite hard to deal with those split enemies with an EP setup I found

#

it also falls off fairly hard when the burn isn't quite enough to kill enemies, so build has to be quite well maxed and then at certain difficulties/group sizes it starts to be more meh
doesn't stop me from using it often still, it's just a lot of fun whenever you get it right still, it's a quite fun build

wild raptor
#

I heard people can do convoys in a group

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Yeah maximizing dmg critical

#

When it comes to something like this

deep blaze
#

I always thought that'd just slow things down since every time someone fast travels, all stuff (like convoys travelling) gets forward by some ticks so it can be hard to catch up to most, and since you do it for XP not loot (and kill XP is kind of low) it's not like you're getting more from the more enemies spawning

wild raptor
#

And tbh idk how it would work vs the big minigun dudes 😅

#

Maybe they don’t spawn in open world much

deep blaze
#

ya convoys and their reinforcements are luckily just small easily burnable dudes

wild raptor
#

I once entered a legendary difficulty stronghold with a dedicated team ish

#

We had one dude who knew exactly what he was doing

deep blaze
#

a decent tip perhaps on burn EP, I brushed the firestarter spec's side arm aside (the firestarter shotgun) but it's actually pretty great against a lot of enemies, as it makes things that normally don't burn well (or at all) burn more

wild raptor
#

Whole mission took an hour 😅

#

And the final boss was the tankieat thing I’ve seen in my life

#

Tankiest

deep blaze
#

so if you tap that on big guys who normally don't burn much (or even at all like the huge flamethrower tanky boi from the cleaners, or robotics) even they can catch on fire which is nice, even if not for too long

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o that's fun times

wild raptor
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It was a minigun guy with white armor, I think his backpack alone has billion hp?😅😅

deep blaze
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probably the DUA buddy

winter radish
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District Union

wild raptor
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Yea district union

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Man was a walking juggernaut

deep blaze
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I remember being completely deleted a couple times as I learnt when he does that big EMP blast (and completes it without getting staggered) it kind of hurts a lot if you're not far away

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and then found it funny how insanely quickly he got deleted when group had good DPS vs no one really having DPS

wild raptor
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Yeah our group friend would signal EMP, and we would get behind cover

deep blaze
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I don't think cover helps at all, it's just distance

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But I think holding up your shield towards it makes the shield soak damage too but not sure about that, that can help

wild raptor
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I mean when he does the emp he won’t ahnihilate you because ur covered xd

deep blaze
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I've always been deleted by that even when multiple walls were between me and him

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and being in cover too and not peaking

wild raptor
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Huh 🤔

deep blaze
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pretty sure it's similar to our jammer kind of

wild raptor
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Yeah actually sometimes these heavy dudes make bullets teach you for no reason 😅

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Reach

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Btw

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I’ve got a lot of weapons in my stash

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Should I try to recalibration library the talents and stats etc

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Or would this be a mistake xd

deep blaze
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well not the bullets but I mean just his EMP, I thought taking cover to LoS would help after dying to it once so I hid behind multiple layers of cover but was still too close and still deleted, he wasn't even focussed on me
that's why I think it's distance based and ignores obstacles, when I go far away I can keep shooting too without any cover and take no damage when he does it

wild raptor
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We had a dedicated tank and dps in the team I guess they somehow managed as I was just taking headshots from far away 😅

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And tbh I wanna ask about inventory management in general, what do we do about excess items and what should we save etc

deep blaze
# wild raptor Should I try to recalibration library the talents and stats etc

I'd say it's worth it for the talents for sure if you won't use that piece otherwise, and for stats since I think you can obtain lots of items quickly in this game I only extracted god/perfect roll stats as otherwise I'd just extract say a 60% stat which very quickly would be overwritten by a 70% then very quickly by a 95%, hell even those that seem like 99% just get taken over by a 100% one rather quickly and then the ones you gave up before that were for nothing

But it does make sense perhaps to get "decently high" rolled stats you'd use often like DTOOC so you can at least use it on other items, I'd not bother doing that for anything else than perfect stats on other less used stats

winter radish
deep blaze
green night
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so these technical difficulties and the season end means no directives?

deep blaze
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yus fun times

winter radish
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yup

deep blaze
green night
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awesome. guess i'll play something else then

wild raptor
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So like I’m worried I might extract a really decent weapon

deep blaze
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what I personally did is keep one of every exotic and named item, whenever I got a second I'd scrap (exotic) or donate to level expertise (named) the worse one
and then everything else if I'm not using it in a setup or looking for farming it I'd mostly scrap/donate to expertise

wild raptor
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Then regret extracting it when I find a good build featuring it xd

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Or armor piece for that matter

pure rain
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is it still lee fooked ? i.e difficulty et al

deep blaze
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with weapons I basically kept one of a lot of weapons at first that had damage to out of cover on them as that's the best and usually only stat you care about which made them "perfect" as you could reroll talent (or keep one where I knew that talent was great for that weapon and reroll attribute to DTOOC)

over time you might learn some go-to "meta" good weapons and keep less of the other ones

wild raptor
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I got this smg called police something with core attributed and attributed absolutely maxed

deep blaze
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even if you find out later that you scrapped something that you thought was bad and is actually the best weapon, it's really not long to refarm it

wild raptor
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Not flexing but it would be a perfect candidate for extraction

deep blaze
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don't feel bad about extracting anything really for the library, once you extracted a perfect stat it's there forever and the item can easily be farmed again

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worst case you only make that mistake once with that stat (of extracting an otherwise great weapon you'd use)

winter radish
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what you can also do to fill your library is to check the vendors, buy stuff with max rolls or talents you don't have yet and extract those

wild raptor
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Yeah I’ve thought about all what you guys said and it makes alot of sense

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So it’s okay to extract stuff

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You can farm later

deep blaze
wild raptor
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I haven’t touched dz yet

deep blaze
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yus don't feel bad about potentially being attached to an item you don't know if it's good or not
you can always ask here real quick and people are quick to help

wild raptor
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Maybe could make a build for it if it’s fun

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Yeah that would be great 👍

deep blaze
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not everyone might agree on what's the best or great weapon but usually consensus is fairly clear like if you ask if a P90 SMG is good I think no one would be jumping out of their chair, so worst case even if it's "pretty good" no big loss if you scrap it
but then if you say hey is this police M4 AR good or nah then I think people would unanimously tell you yeah it's a top tier AR so if it has either a "meta" talent and/or damage to out of cover on it, you know it's a keeper

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the builds spreadsheet pinned in #td2-build-advice usually has a bit of commonly used weapons described with most builds that you could consider top tier/meta/good to keep

hollow vigil
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i feel like it takes forever to get a coyotes mask drop holy hell, ive ran through it at least 10 times

deep blaze
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if you start running into inventory + stash space issues then just lower your standards on what to keep and yoink out more stuff, most things aren't that special to keep (or if you know for sure they're all super great and you have 982323 builds, you can get alts and store it on those) + if something is actually great but you don't know about it then you're probably not using it for the reason it's great for, what mamma don't know won't hurt her so you can refarm it later when you learn that it's great and by then probably forgot you once had it

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Hoarding Disorder exposure therapy game 🙏

naive sand
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where is manny

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im getting quests

deep blaze
# naive sand im getting quests

if it's the talk to Manny at white house for Anderson manhunt thing then probably a bug since the manhunt/season ended but there's a void of no new season yet, Schrödinger's season 10.5

opal radish
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is someone able to set directives on the map?

smoky stag
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new feature

opal radish
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they are gone from mission's to

opal radish
wild raptor
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Alright Apple I’ve learned a lot from all that thanks

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I assume the items we decide not to keep we just dismantle them yeah? For materials and all

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Speaking of, farming mats is a bit of a question mark for me

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Some “rare” materials like the printing plastic or whatever it was called, I think we only get them from dismantling mods?

deep blaze
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So I used to scrap all for a long while as it's convenient, can be done anywhere
I recommend using the inventory options (easily overlooked feature I think) where you can set sorting by New for example so you can quickly go through all the unseen things you just got to quickly mark them all with a key/button as junk that you don't need, mark as => mark for recalibrate to make it easier stand out as a piece you wanted to extract a piece from, and move over ones you want to keep and do something with later

and then you can mass scrap all junk in general inventory screen

wild raptor
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Huh so yeah we can mark stuff

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For dismantling or extracting and all

deep blaze
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but donating items for expertise (first panel at calibration table, there's a donate all junk there) levels those items in proficiency level which is great long term - I'd still scrap exotics though for their exotic components

wild raptor
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Oh yeah speaking of

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I feel like expertise is really new

deep blaze
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to start off scrapping to me seems sensible still as it gives you a lot of materials to work with (and stays relevant if you want materials later)

wild raptor
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Relatively new rather

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So idk anything about it, but it looks pretty important

deep blaze
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not sure how new it is, I only started like 4 months ago or so
it's also not super important, it's a long term grind you can do for some sense of progress

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but you're absolutely not missing out on much if you don't do anything with it

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it gives a small improvement every level, just a tiny bit of % more base armour on gear, on skills sometimes a useful stat (like every level is a % more range to jammer which can be nice), and probably most noticeable effect is every expertise level is 1% more weapon damage on weapons

main delta
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Expertise you certainly are because of upgrades

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1% armor to gear pieces

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Damage added to weapons

deep blaze
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but it's very minimal still, you'd need a ton of grinding to reach high levels of it, currently 21 is max and at that level you add 21% weapon damage to a fully upgraded weapon
it's nice for sure but not game changing enough to worry a huge amounts about it

main delta
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21% is insane though

deep blaze
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no it's not, it's weapon damage

wild raptor
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Huh I see, so we use junk items to fuel expertise of weapons

terse dirge
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I legit cannot hover over right side of the map cause manhunt is still there for some reason and it causes the game the crash

deep blaze
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stacking with other weapon damage
It's like a what, around 5-6% DPS increase on weapon DPS builds
Sure it's there but also expertise level 21 is not something you get in one weekend as a new player

wild raptor
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Or so it seems

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Oh it’s a long investment and the dmg is nice but it’s not a must have huh

deep blaze
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yea it's kind of a very gradual small increase over time that's nice to work on but I'd not prioritise it above most other systems in the game
nice to be aware of, it's great to mark things (except exotics) as junk and mass donate them at calibration buddy first (and scrapping rest that you can't donate, those that you're maxed proficient on) for long term slow gain but that's a good start for now

wild raptor
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👍👍

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Does expertise contribute to specific weapons or a whole class of weapons?

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That then affect the specific weapons

deep blaze
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it's the individual item itself you upgrade

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levelling expertise doesn't do anything on its own, it allows you to then upgrade individual pieces in expertise levels up to the cap of your expertise level

main delta
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So the weekly reset didn’t actually reset anything for me, same invaded missions

deep blaze
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which is an increasing material investment, and only affects that specific item (not category of items, not that type of item either, really that one specific piece)

wild raptor
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Oh, so a scenario popped up, what if we dedicate resources to one weapon but then we find a better weapon or a better entirely new weapon xd

deep blaze
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if you have 3 police M4s and upgrade one to level 20 then the others are still level 0

wild raptor
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Right

deep blaze
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ya so you better upgrade one that has perfect stats and won't replace

wild raptor
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Gotcha

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That would make the most sense

smoky stag
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really loving the new FEATURES!

warped bramble
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they are fantastic, the directives are gone, I can't change the world difficulty and many more

smoky stag
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opening map results in crashes
OK lets just randomly join which ever person's activity and hope its something we like

deep blaze
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also just checked without other buffs just baseline on a high end red build going from expertise 0 to 21 is a 8.4% damage increase on an AR, not sure if that % ultimately gets lower if you add a couple more weapon damage buffs perhaps that might diminish it more
so it's for sure nice, but that's maxed expertise which can potentially take a long time to get

on some skills the upgrade is not that useful or nearly useless, on some it's more relevant
and on gear pieces, it's a 1% upgrade per expertise level on the base armour stat of the item and that's it, so it's not that big of a gain (on all 6 pieces level 21 on an all red build you go from what, maybe 750k to 850k armour or something?)

sonic oar
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Expertise upgrade % is scaled off base weapon / base armor value, so the increase isn't extremely significant.

deep blaze
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ya with the weapons case it gets diminished by all other weapon damage stat you have

warped bramble
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well, I wanted to do some xp farming, seems like I can put that on a hold for now

sonic oar
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You can turn on show base damage in options for weapon, the white number value is the % increase scaled off on.

deep blaze
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it's basically the exact same stat you get as the red cores give 15% of, as far as I understand

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so if you have a weapon on expertise level 15 that's the same as gaining another red core

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not too great, not too terrible
the more WD/red cores you already have, the lesser the effect
more noticeable on builds running on very low red cores

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I think expertise 21 on 0 red cores and other external/talent WD bonusses it's exactly a 15% DPS upgrade (1.4 to 1.61), decreasing the more other WD/red cores you have

plush otter
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as that orange part is the value of WD (including SWD)

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but in general it is correct to say that its off base values, most noticeable on armour, but there its a new extra multiplier but only on the base value, where with weapons and some skills it additive to already existing stats

sonic oar
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21% increase is being multiplied off the white number value right?

plush otter
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no, as then it would be 21% at full strenght

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its 21% of that orange number so if say 41k white and 50k orange, then its still 41k white but now 50k+ 21% WD

sonic oar
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You are saying the 21% is multiplied on non base damage?

viscid cargo
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Theyre testing your navigation skills and map knowledge

plush otter
heavy prism
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Not a separate 21% multiplier to base dmg

sonic oar
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i know it's added to the orange number, but the % increase is multiplied based on the white number, is it not?

heavy prism
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It is but it's added to the existing percentage of WD you already have from gear or talents

oblique sigil
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Why the fuck is my game crashing constantly

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My game has crashed 7 times in 20 minutes

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what did they do

sonic oar
heavy prism
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Say you have 100 AWD and 30 SWD, simplify that's 130 AWD

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Base * (1+130%)

plush otter
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after it is added to wd yes, but not in the wording as you had it as "the white number value is the % increase scaled off on" that would only be true at 0% wd+swd, and its easier to see it as a etra calc on the orange number as that is what it is in stat form as WD

heavy prism
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If you are expertise 21

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Base *(1+151%)

sonic oar
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Base is the white number right?

heavy prism
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Yes

sonic oar
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it never change at all regardless of your weapon core?

heavy prism
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Doesn't change

sonic oar
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in ikia example, it's always going to stay 40k - 91k [40k (white) + 51k (orange)]

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so the % increase is scaled off the 40k, is my statement incorrect?

heavy prism
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In order to increase something you must first have a base

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That base ultimately changes into the final damage you hit but at the start it's always that number

plush otter
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well, the way you said it, i would read as [white](base x expertise) * orange

sonic oar
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which is how the expertise is calculating off right?

heavy prism
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Well EVERYTHING is calculated off base

sonic oar
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to add expertise into orange, it needs to be multiplied off White

tender wave
# oblique sigil what did they do

They let the season end without setting up a new phase properly. Stay away from the top right area of the DC map and that should stop some of the crashing, but you'll have other issues like the lack of directives to deal with.

sonic oar
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is that not what I say?

heavy prism
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It is multiplied to white as a sum of all your WD sources

sonic oar
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there's a Show Base Damage options in game to reveal the white base number

quasi saffron
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have the new update in the game ?

sonic oar
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i am saying the % value is scaled/multiplied off this number

plush otter
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no, as everything that is only multiplying base, is a seperate multiplier, in that wording 21% expertise would be 21% actual increase

sonic oar
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i did not say where the increase value is ended up adding into (white/orange part)

plush otter
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and its not, its additive to a already existing stat

heavy prism
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Just use my example above for reference

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No need to overcomplicate white and orange

tender wave
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Yeah it's just a communication issue, the 21% is calculated from the white number but it is not added to the white number, it's added at the end after everything else

heavy prism
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It just makes more confusion

sonic oar
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yeah, i did not say where it is adding into, I am just saying to get the net value increase it's to be % scaled off the white base damage number

oblique sigil
sonic oar
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and to see the white number, you will have to turn on Show base Damage in options.

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the white number value is where the % increase of expertise scaled off on, how is this meaning I say the value is added into white

plush otter
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while this is mostly on semantics yes, my point is that it is literally part of the orange number, and saying it scales % wise of the white ,implies it is multiplying against the white solely

sonic oar
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which is the case, is it not?

sturdy cape
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sounds like Stellar is just talking about base values and expertise but the rest of you are looking at this more broadly

plush otter
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no as it isnt a % directly of the white number, doing base * 21% * (wd+swd), isnt the same as going base * (wd+swd+21%)

deep blaze
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I think an easy way to look at it is expertise doesn't multiply anything at all / you don't do anything with it yet, expertise is just more weapon damage
you first collect all weapon damage together and then the collection of weapon damage multiplies the base (white) number together

semantics being important there since there's a big difference in result if you don't do the order of multiplication vs adding up in the right order with them, on its own it doesn't interact with that white number - only after you're done adding up all WD sources does that resulting number do anything with it

sonic oar
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I did not say it's multiplying with the rest, i am merely saying it's multplying off white base damage number

tropic compass
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Lol games broken this game

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Thank god I ain't home to (not) experience down

balmy cedar
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So did season 10 end?

deep blaze
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yessir

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went out with a bang for sure

formal mortar
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More like a CTD whimper! 😉

plush otter
balmy cedar
sonic oar
deep blaze
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if it's 41k white and 50k orange wouldn't it become 58.6k if you add 21% expertise
nvm thought you meant full number is 50k not the +50k orange

lean wasp
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When was last time Grand Washington was invaded?

sonic oar
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@deep blaze yeah so my understanding is the expertise increase is multiplied off the white number once you turn on show base damage in options, then you can use it to gauge how much value it adds to your total damage.

deep blaze
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issue is if you have 21% expertise on a weapon you're not really getting a damage increase equal to white number * 1.21 and that's it

plush otter
deep blaze
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same as the picture in #ask-td2-community, the orange number doesn't go up/down by 21%, it goes up by slightly over 16% for example there

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if it's 41k white and 50k orange and you add 21% expertise that'd result in 41k white + 58.63k orange now

plush otter
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yeah, that was me over simplifying as its 21% not of the whole, but additive to the underlying stats making that 50k

deep blaze
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by getting the WD increase (how much the orange is relative to the white, in that case that's a 122% increase right? so 122% WD) and then take that 122, add 21, so now it's a 143% increase (or a 2.43 multiplier) and for the new orange you do 2.43 * 41k for 58.63k so total is 99.63k

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oh yea like that, I get what you mean

sonic oar
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yeah I am just talking about how to get the expertise upgrade % in a net value form, which is multiplied off the white number, I did not talk about its interaction with anything else

deep blaze
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just wanted to prevent confusion in case someone reads it like "increased by 21%" meaning it's a 21% increase like how you'd do with percentages, but that it's rather 21% added to the other % components in that orange that make it all up

sonic oar
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it is increased by 21% of your white number value, that's the only thing I am trying to state

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people will look at total damage and expects the 21% is increased off that, which is not correct

sturdy cape
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a build with 4 max'd WD cores (so 4 x 15%) and no expertise should have the same final damage as with 3 max'd WD cores and +15% damage from expertise, right? they function in the same way iirc

deep blaze
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like with the 41k white + 50k orange, adding 21% expertise makes it 58.63k orange where the 58.63k increase over 50k (8.63k) is in line with taking 21% of 41k (just small rounding error, I used a straight 122% but it's actually a 121.something)

sonic oar
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so i am not sure how is my statement here being incorrect [the white number value is the % increase scaled off on], maybe I am not using all the correct terminology?

deep blaze
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just very tricky with wording and interpretation and easily misunderstood in many ways

sturdy cape
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it's the difference between looking at base damage and expertise in isolation vs looking at those 2 things and how they relate to final damage in the broader sense of a whole build

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@sonic oar i think you've been right all along they just misread your quite specific context

deep blaze
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it'd not surprise me to some extent that the way people learn math and English complicates it and depending on how you read it it might sound right or wrong and that's why it's probably not the best to describe it in too little detail or short sentences to prevent confusion, this is where adding more nuance in explanation helps

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it just depends on how you read the implied nuance too but it feels like a "is the doll spinning left or right" kind of thing where you can see it in both ways

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or maybe I'm just too tired

sonic oar
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Yeah i do not have intention to go into how you ended up with a final numbers on the shooting range, i am just providing where you can procure the expertise net gain value from percentage to a net value

tender wave
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How is this discussion still going on? Stellar is saying the increase can be calculated from the white number, NOT that it increases that white number in the total calculation.

deep blaze
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so I think the way I see it is
that seems like a correct way to put it that the raw amount of damage you gain from expertise there can be seen as the 21% of base/white figure, issue is it needs the added detail that it's the raw/unmodified by anything else number, not the end result damage number's expertise section, but the amount at the very first step of the whole calculation

sturdy cape
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the way he said it was fine, the problem came from others taking it out of context

oblique thicket
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anyone in DC that i can join? im stuck in NY. game crashes when i try to travel via map and pilot. answering the call im only getting NY calls at this time LoL

deep blaze
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It's like correct with how that 21% on the base 44.2k will get you that 9282 figure but I'm torn on whether you can say "so the net benefit of expetise is 9282"

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it's like kind of both yes and no, it likely won't be 9282 of the end result so like at the test range if you hit for 1.2M then expertise didn't contribute 9282 I think that's the potential misunderstanding one might have there too if you take that too literally
but it contributed 9282 to the section of calculation at the step of "let's see what WD adds to our number" stage of damage calculation

tender wave
deep blaze
# tender wave How is this discussion still going on? Stellar is saying the increase can be ca...

I think we were mostly having some fun with nuances and I don't think anyone feels like one is truly wrong or anything and it's probably also mostly trying to make it as clear as possible to prevent misunderstandings for anyone else stumbling across it
We all seem to have the right idea just toying around with conveying it in a way where it doesn't cause someone to maybe end up with a wrong result later on

formal mortar
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I don't suppose there's anyone around who's level 30 and still hasn't done the Dark Zone West recon mission? I'm level 40 and now locked out of DZ-West, some say if I group with someone and do the mission it'll fix it...

sonic oar
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yeah as long as you are aware of the upgrade being applied since the beginning, it is just that the increase is not as significant as one would imagine .

plush otter
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so here is semantically, why i feel that saying scales of base is going to imply that its a different thing than it is, and its that there it is its full 21%, where it gets added into the orange number where it is actually a part of and isnt a full 21%, saying only that it scales of base is to me to say its just 21% as is