#td2-general-chat

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quick wolf
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5 pieces across 100 floors.

potent lava
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I played through floor 1 to 100 though..

hybrid ore
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01-20, then 21-40, etc.
you need to re-finish Floor 100 after obtaining all 5.

quick wolf
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If you didn't get the first component, I don't think the others will drop.

potent lava
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How do I know if I have obtained them?

undone timber
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Are summit keys just random drop

quick wolf
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Check your resources tab.

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Summit keys randomly spawn throughout the floors. Just gotta find them and pick them up.

undone timber
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Ah I was wondering why I only came across one

quick wolf
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You can find exotic components in your resource tab.

hybrid ore
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Summit Keys are randomly placed around each set of 3 levels (1-3, 4-6, 7-9), once you pass the previous "set", then the old key vanishes.

quick wolf
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Also, if someone in your group picks it up, it'll play the pick up sound cue. Anyone in the group can open the chest as long as somebody picked up the key.

hybrid ore
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each part needed for Ridgeways is named after the Floor Set that you have to find it on. Aka "2140" or "81-99"

undone timber
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Ah

noble kite
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Anyone wanna help me and my wife run Jefferson Trade Center so I can get the Coyote Mask?

quick wolf
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I would not recommend farming coyote's mask in Jefferson. It's highly inefficient.

hybrid ore
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@noble kite You've already posted in the right area, give it time.

noble kite
potent lava
noble kite
quick wolf
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You'd be better off farming heroic control points or Countdown with mask targeted loot.

hybrid ore
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the tl;dr for farming in div2 is:
Targeted Loot: [Mask], then either +Directives or Countdown.

iron adder
quick wolf
hybrid ore
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It's really not even arguable, since without TL, you have exactly 1 chance of getting it per run.

quick wolf
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And it's also much higher than 0.018% from named enemies.

sleek drift
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Had an FTC run a Lady Death in an Iron Horse and he kept blocking my shots and this dude's ADHD and situational awareness were worse than mine

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I was ready to fucking rage, and I hot mic

gusty dove
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i would have raged already honestly, jesus christ.. dont use lady death and run in front of other people like a headless chicken

sleek drift
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The LD is relevant because I've never seen someone run LD in a raid and I'm surprised he didn't get his ass chewed for that one

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I just get fucking pissy when people block my shots

undone timber
quick wolf
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^ See? This is exactly what I warned of. Some people are just trying to play the game.
So intentionally blocking their shit is obviously going to cause some annoyance that you would hopefully rather avoid dealing with

sleek drift
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Granted it was the dude's first time, but I have no patience for people with zero situational awareness

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I think the worst it comes out in me is when I'm driving or walking and people are slow / oblivious to what's going on around them

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I'm selfish though, I don't care if I bodyblock someone, just don't bodyblock me (:

quick wolf
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Maybe you should change your name to something a little more... accurate.

sleek drift
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My name is the joke lol

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I told a family member about it and got a good laugh

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I lose my temper way too quickly some days

unborn ravine
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Sounds like you need therapy.

sleek drift
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wHo hUrT yOu

quick wolf
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Cue the unhinged response

sleek drift
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cRiNgE

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eDgY

quick wolf
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"What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bi..."

sleek drift
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Too lazy to copypasta that and then have the modbot delete it bc too many no no words

quick wolf
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^

sleek drift
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Maybe I just like cursing

unborn ravine
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I like turtles

quick wolf
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I wish we could shoot through the glass in the underwater tunnel of Manning Zoo.

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Maybe then you'd get to see a turtle.

unborn ravine
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Not sea turtles.

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Just turtles

undone timber
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Wh-

sleek drift
quick wolf
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Have you guys ever had turtle soup? I hear it's good. Would like to try it.

unborn ravine
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Snapping turtle is pretty good.

undone timber
sleek drift
quick wolf
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He would be playing Red Dead.

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The way God intended.

sleek drift
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When I play Far Cry 5 I'd go animal hunting just because it was the most efficient way of getting money

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I usually tried to leave the wolves alone cuz doggy ❤️ but cougars were fair game

quick wolf
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I honestly wouldn't surprised if Patience shoots the dog that the haven settlers find on the street.

sleek drift
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Fuck no lmao

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I love that little dude, and I always ritualistically pet the doggo puppy in haven

undone timber
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Patience when no russian

sleek drift
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Wait, is haven the NY settlement

quick wolf
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Yes.

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I mean the dogs they interact with on the streets.

sleek drift
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Yeah, I always lmao when the dude is getting pissy when the girl is trying to make friends with the doggo

quick wolf
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Not the one inside.

sleek drift
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"rabies"

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That reminds me, ever pass the Black Tusk patrols who talk to their warhound

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"just leave it, we have more at base"

quick wolf
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"Don't listen to him"

sleek drift
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lmaooo

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Mfw Black Tusk are aware the Omnissiah exists

quick wolf
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And then you proceed to murder her right in front them.

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perfect.

sleek drift
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Whenever I'm doing buddy and lucy with my raid group I always say "ok guys, time to go beat dogs"

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"meh, they're robots, they have no rights"

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"not in 30 years"

quick wolf
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Until you run into that one BTSU guy that was a part of PETA before the pandemic.

sleek drift
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Lmao too dark huh

quick wolf
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Speaking of wetwork and dogs. I just finished watching the episode of Spy x Family that used the dogs as suicide bombers.

sleek drift
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Throwback to the Russians trying to use them as bombs

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and they'd blow their tanks up

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Is that an anime

willow flax
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hey, i tried this method, and i think in the end it turns out to be one of those placebo effect fix, today i am playing the game and already got 2 crashes in short session

quick wolf
sleek drift
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Wild

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I just googled

quick wolf
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Has a very cold war aesthetic to it.

pliant sentinel
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i disconnected from all CD matches

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so im just waiting for a fix then

sleek drift
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I love crashing in Countdown

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I also love unstunnable, un-ccable hunters

hybrid ore
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There is another fix, it's unofficial but basically solved them for me, to an extent.

pliant sentinel
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send em over

sleek drift
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I love dumping a scorpio mag into them only for them to hatchet hug me

pliant sentinel
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i would love to play

undone timber
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Istg hunters are invincible

pliant sentinel
quick wolf
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Oh yeah, there's a reddit post of a guy getting ammo dumped by 3 Hunters it was fucking funny.

sleek drift
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Too lazy, I expect stuns on them when I shoot them, not for them to shrug off a teammate foaming it, my foam nade, and a scorpio salvo. Idk if that's intended or the hunter is just cheating

quick wolf
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Man didn't go down once.

pliant sentinel
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the PFE does wonders

sleek drift
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I've been running a Strikers lately

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Shit does work

pliant sentinel
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strikers is good as well

sleek drift
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Yeah first time I ever ran it

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Full stacks is disgusting with a fast hands famas

quick wolf
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Strikers got buffed recently so you're experiencing it at its best right now.

pliant sentinel
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PFE has good damage and has good survivability

sleek drift
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I just use it for CD

pliant sentinel
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best part, it still works even if ur disrupted

quick wolf
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Funny enough the best way to deal with hunters is to push them instead of letting yourself get pushed.

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Walking next to them while in cover makes their ai go bonkers.

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easy to exploit.

hybrid ore
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Alternatively: it can also make them melee you. Which hurts.

quick wolf
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That's the point.

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You abuse the short melee range.

sleek drift
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I'll usually push them then AA12 blindfire for stacks

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If I'm lucky a teammate will bully them with a scorpio or foam it off me

quick wolf
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By the time they get close enough to axe you you're already around the corner of that same cover.

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You need good timing, but otherwise it's a funny way to mess around with them.

sleek drift
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I'm pretty sure it's a valid exploit to abuse when fighting them cuz it makes them go into a melee animation that you can avoid and then use that for extra damage

quick wolf
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Other than that, you can also force their pathfinding to reset.

sleek drift
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I normally just try to foam them with a 'nade to get them to roll out of cover / stop the heal

quick wolf
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So yeah. It's easy to fuck around with hunters using cover.

pliant sentinel
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i like using aces with perfect opportunistic

golden summit
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provoking hunters to melee is basically stunning them without using a skill, having a guy know how to do this while being tanky enough to shrug off other incoming gunfire from the black tusk at extract is a godsend

hard otter
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I do this sometimes when I have the heartbreaker backpack equipped. Really risky though cuz if u go down hunters tend to finish u off and no extract

undone timber
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Does countdown require a lot of know how or is it more "go here and do this" kinda thing

hybrid ore
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Just follow the leader of the group, do objectives where they do objectives.
Countdown is pretty much idiot proof.

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Oh and the most important thing: only fire the flare in the final area when you've got less than 30 seconds to go. (unless the entire team is about to die)

undone timber
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How come

hybrid ore
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Flare at the end calls the chopper, and leaving it for as late as possible lets more Hunters spawn.

undone timber
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Ah

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So better loot

hybrid ore
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Yep!
Most teams leave it for about 20 seconds left, but anything under 30 and the host won't complain.

undone timber
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Got it

gusty dove
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flare at 5 seconds and you are good :) thats what most people do

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or well 7 or 5

iron adder
undone timber
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They illegal or immoral

gusty dove
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hunters can hack them and youll just kill your team

compact epoch
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Fires flares and game crashed yep normal day in Div2

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Maybe even up until I die the crashing still will not get fixed on the game.

sleek drift
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really

brisk bridge
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Hunters can hack most deployable skills so don't use them. Exceptions are things like pulse, decoy, shock trap, off the top of my head. Drones, turrets, mortar, hives, seekers, etc. are a no go.

undone timber
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Ah

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What named gear should I look out for

coral musk
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Caesar's Guard is one, Forge is another good one

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for DPS, foxes prayer kneepads and contractor's gloves

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during the holiday season, grab a chill out mask or two

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I'm probably the only one who will tell you the safely distant is fun

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most people just use an AR instead, but I like it div2shrug

brisk bridge
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Did you mean Safety Distance? 😛

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Safely distant is how I treat my extended family.

golden summit
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Countdown is pretty much idiot proof.
I beg to disagree, there's enough idiots looking to get carried in heroic countdown that extraction is far from guaranteed. Getting loot while you do the objectives is easy but extraction with randoms is stressful in easily >50% of runs, with scrubbed runs maybe somewhere between 1 in 6-12 depending on how bad the matchmaking is that evening

knotty wave
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I cannot find a single snitch to give up cassie? Any advice?

placid shadow
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check out youtube videos

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lets hope i'll get my dream car7 today ❤️

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coz nobody wants that spaw speed baby./..

knotty wave
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I've checked the spots mentioned in the videos..

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Is there a first time thing im supposed to do, if I've never found her before?

calm oyster
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The drop rate for catharsis is so ass

oblique timber
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@quick wolfyou are right, i'll think of some other ways to get my kills, like you said many options

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thank you for letting me pick your brain, i really appreciate it 🙂

tender wave
knotty wave
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Yes I've finished WONY too, and by end game you mean the raids, invaded stoengholds etc?

tender wave
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I mean you've killed Keener and are able to head back to DC, sounds like that's a yes

brazen mountain
tender wave
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I'd suggest waiting until a new day (I think the snitch relocates) then visiting each of his spawn locations starting with the easiest ones. There's one very near the American History museum I usually use

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Just watch for the green question marks icon

granite zephyr
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Yooooo, my luck is dooope

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Apparel cache gave me 4 new stuff in a row

granite zephyr
pearl stump
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@thin nebula @low gulch and others dev, plz plz plz make a restriction SHD lvl on countdown( like minimum 1000 SHD for heroic) . IT IS IMPOSIBLE to acomplish when you have full nuub team and its not fun to play at all. Why do other good players have to carry a full team of 4-5 nuub that do nothing (not even objectives) bcz as they say: ,,i play countdown heroic cuz other players will carry me". Make it fair for everyone. At this point its just disgusting to play countdown when you get in first min 4-5 playes with no more then 100 SHD lvl with nothing good on them (gear)

granite zephyr
brazen mountain
granite zephyr
brazen mountain
granite zephyr
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2/3landmark crates give Exotic component

brazen mountain
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In DZ

granite zephyr
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It's raining exotics

pliant sentinel
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it was like 1% wasnt it

granite zephyr
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2%?

pliant sentinel
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either 0.075% or 1% i forgor

granite zephyr
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Dang. I hit 1% 4times in 30minutes lmao

brazen mountain
granite zephyr
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Meta grinding

pliant sentinel
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go buy a lottery ticket

granite zephyr
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Steal all DZ supply drops and loot all landmarks

granite zephyr
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Virgin division at agents:Secure supply drop

pliant sentinel
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buy me dark souls 3 when u win

granite zephyr
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Chad rogue agents:Steal supply drops

granite zephyr
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Quick question, Steal or secure drops?

pliant sentinel
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steal

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i find better loot when i steal (placebo effect)

brazen mountain
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Steal obviously

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Only true rogue steal the drop

granite zephyr
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My team tried to secure, our team yelled at him to stop as we stole it lol

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Was wondering why

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One member was like
Hmmmmmm sEcURe

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Also got good luck. Rolled the JTF beret,new vanity I wanted lol

brazen mountain
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imagine trying to get the devs to add a minimum SHD of 1000 to play CD heroic

granite zephyr
pliant sentinel
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u can do CD heroic under 1000

brazen mountain
granite zephyr
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Parenting moment

brazen mountain
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The dude that @ the devs was asking for that smh

pliant sentinel
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i have a group full of over 1000+ shd that can barely kill a hunter and a group of 700+ shd that can complete two missions before the 10min mark

brazen mountain
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So people who don’t have 100 hours of nonstop gameplay to get SHD 1000 can’t play heroic CD?

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That’s dumb

granite zephyr
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I play the tactician lol, Eclipse Fire and emp pulse with vile to give my team breathing room from hunters

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Emp them before they can emp you

brazen mountain
granite zephyr
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Sun Tzu, Art of War moment

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The virgin 'fireSticky bomb the hunter' Noob
The Chad 'Sticky the Black tusk and focus fire for more time and spread effect

knotty wave
granite zephyr
# brazen mountain Exactly what I do

It just pains me to see inexperienced Eclipse players spam sticky on tanks and hunters, use it on weak enemies for easry kills and more so spread abnd increased save duration

plush otter
# tender wave I'd suggest waiting until a new day (I think the snitch relocates) then visiting...

the way that the snitch works is that everytime you get near any of his spawning points, there is a chance for him to spawn in, if he isnt on cooldown (either 30mins or 1 hour).
this makes it so its not that he has a specific location, but that he just needs to spawn, and the easiest way to spawn him is to make sure you arent on cooldown (easy-est by doing it before you do anything in the openworld) and just pingpong between 2 of the possible spawns

bitter wraith
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After all this time...i finally did 2 things. Have a TP build that cuts through legendary as if it were heroic using a level 25 build and also got a bighorn. First. Try.

granite zephyr
bitter wraith
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Bighorn looks interesting

granite zephyr
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A

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I only use Eclipse, Striker, HB

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And FI

inner elbow
lament mirage
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😔

lament mirage
bitter wraith
lament mirage
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Tho tbh all guns should have that option minus bolt ones n some shotguns td2 logic tho

bitter wraith
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Trur

fervent jacinth
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I jst want chameleon to get a buff

timber orchid
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I've recently been thinking of getting into the division again. I was looking through patch notes, but might have missed them. Are there any new skills added recently? I think the last skill added when I played was the healing traps.

tender wave
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The latest two seasons haven't added any new skills.

hard otter
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Emp better used on healing stations or explosive drones. But a huge radius one second stun on all adds can sometimes save a teammates ass

granite zephyr
granite zephyr
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Chem launcher+ heal trap, but my teammates are too dumb to know how to interact with the heal

upbeat birch
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Hi people, I am a returning player (played the first 3 month) and was curious how the leveling is now? I played when lvl 30 was max, but was thinking about making a new character

granite zephyr
upbeat birch
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I bought the season, so not sure

granite zephyr
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Season? Not the Warlords of New York?

upbeat birch
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I bought the season pass when the game released 😛

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But if your asking me if I bought warlords of new york seperatly, then no

tender wave
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the season pass is useless without the WONY dlc, unfortunately

granite zephyr
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Yep, searched it

tender wave
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almost everything added since WONY was released requires it (new gamemodes, gear, progression systems etc) so it's absolutely worth getting if you intend to put much time into the game

timber orchid
upbeat birch
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Does it makes any difference for leveling? Money is not really a concern regarding the price

granite zephyr
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Well, season pass doesn't include WONY

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And you need WONY to gain access to NY and get to lvl 40

granite zephyr
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Same old, run mission, do side mission, convoy, level up and repeat

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Oh also

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Prestige system. Watch level

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Level ups are replaced with a 700k exp per level system

upbeat birch
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oh cool

granite zephyr
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It is counted as 1 level, 1 skill point to be used into your permanent Stat boost system

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Such as 10% boost in all weapon dmg, reload speed, handling, skill haste and etc.

upbeat birch
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Is that unlocked at 40 ?

granite zephyr
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I'm not sure if you need 40 or you need to kill the head honcho then 40

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Aka Aaron Keener

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I got the watch after I was 40, and killing Keener

upbeat birch
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I think I will just buy it and enjoy the leveling. I do need to learn the game again 😛

granite zephyr
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Good luck then, there's a lot of things to try after getting WONY

upbeat birch
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How is the co op experience ? Is there raid and so on to do with people ?

tender wave
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yeah most players have the dlc so you'll find plenty of other lvl 40 players to play with. There are two raids with exclusive exotics and various other group activities (Countdown is a particularly good loot farm)

granite zephyr
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Don't worry about leaving your lvl 30 buddies behind

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You can still join them but they can't join you

upbeat birch
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I am playing solo, so that is not a problem 😛

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I´ll give it a try, thanks guys for the help !

fiery cloud
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Hey RIRI, Kettle,

tender wave
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hey Saph

upbeat birch
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I think me leveling to 30 will take few years, since the game freezes/crashes after 10 mins of gameplay

real wadi
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i mgetting bravo 4 error?

tender wave
upbeat birch
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I just fixed it, updated my driver and it worked for now, lol

tender wave
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there are various solutions people try, but the crashing is generally random enough that it's difficult to draw reliable conclusions without many many hours of play

upbeat birch
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Yeah but this was horrendous

knotty wave
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Right, it's easier to get to Saturn on a bicycle that it is to get the carthasis.....

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Like wth..been at it For 3 hours... Nada

pliant sentinel
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after a few rounds u should be able to get it

knotty wave
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So challenging countdown with mask is not good enough basically?

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Mask target *

pliant sentinel
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heroic CD gives more CD points

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ur best bet is those exotic caches

knotty wave
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Damn.. I've opened like 12 of the caches 😅

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Keep getting coyote or some other exo

pliant sentinel
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dont give up soldier

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u can complete dark souls 3 u can farm catharsis

knotty wave
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I'll keep at it then

knotty wave
bitter wraith
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Aggro logan smitts CANT DIE

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He keeps regenerating

pliant sentinel
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u shoot his backpack

bitter wraith
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I DID 💀

pliant sentinel
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once his bag is destroyed then u can damage him

bitter wraith
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It wont break

pliant sentinel
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keep shooting, its a big health pool

bitter wraith
pliant sentinel
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more

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took me 3 ammo boxes refill on empty to destroy it

tender wave
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his backpack weakpoint has major boss healthpool

bitter wraith
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Well im never doing that shit again lmfao

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DUA. Legendary finally done

pliant sentinel
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dua is the easiest out of the 3 strongholds

tender wave
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you just need to bring good focused DPS (ie not skills, they don't target the bp effectively) and you can burn it down pretty fast

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also possible to 1-shot him, but that takes very specific setup and build

hybrid ore
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My first DUA consisted of the entire team sitting up on the box-thing that's near the entrance, and then getting carpet bombed out of existence.

pliant sentinel
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yo rivens i heard u got an unofficial patch for the crashes

hybrid ore
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It's not a patch exactly, more an external program. So use entirely at your own risk.

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I'll DM you the name.

pliant sentinel
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gotcha

rapid tundra
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Can you still get the emp sticky? Or was that tied to that specific manhunt exclusively?

low flame
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The prime target manhunt mission

iron adder
rapid tundra
low flame
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It’s in the season pass but you have to be a certain level like around 50 through 70 or something

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Once you unlock it you can change the roosevelt island to the manhunt mission

hybrid ore
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Lvl 68 in the Pass gives you access to all 5 previous Manhunts,
but yeah Roosevelt Island is the specific one you're looking for.

iron adder
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it's the free pass btw, not the paid one

keen pendant
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Surprised your game hasn't crashed in that time

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Awh cmon why was that deleted

rapid tundra
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Oh word, I didn’t know that ty

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So I just access it through the pass then? Bet I’ll look into it.

iron adder
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yeah you need to level up your pass (by playing the game/earning XP) to unlock it at a certain level

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there's a chance you unlocked it already

hybrid ore
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Luckily, the only thing available in the "Paid Tier" of the pass are cosmetics and excess caches.

iron adder
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I bought it for the bluescreen mask div2lalala

rapid tundra
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I’m abit confused on how to access it though

iron adder
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okay, open the map and select the Roosevelt Island mission, I don't know which button is it on xbox but there should be one to toggle mission mode

hybrid ore
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Select "Roosevelt Island" > "toggle mission mode" or whatever it's called on xbox > keep doing that until the text is yellow and says "Manhunt".

opal shard
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Are there no active PS clans?

hybrid ore
opal shard
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I know I am lol

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Only PS clans there are not English xD

hybrid ore
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There's plenty, just gotta keep your eye out.

rapid tundra
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Breh.. all this time I had no idea this was here! Lmao it be the little things 😂 ty

brisk bridge
mystic fog
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raid is going well so far 😄 friendly lads, good explanations i feel well taken care of =3

upbeat birch
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Only lvl 5, but damn SMGs feels good

tranquil aspen
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To any mods here… did the drop loot chance’s nerfed or something

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Been grinding 3 or 4 days now to get exotic shotgun Scorpio but i only get sweet dreams….

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I kinda give up on scorpio now

quick wolf
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That's just RNG for ya.

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I had friends who had to scrap countless Acosta bags before getting Memento.

tender wave
tranquil aspen
quick wolf
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Yes.

tranquil aspen
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I am 110 shd

tender wave
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Oh, and the mods here are community volunteers, not devs, they don't have any special insight into the game

tranquil aspen
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So yeah i got the dlc lol

tender wave
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Ok yeah, just bad luck then

quick wolf
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Yeah, then you just have shit rng at the moment.

tranquil aspen
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I know but they might have read patches maybe

quick wolf
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Welcome to looter shooters.

tranquil aspen
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I know rng as run n gun lol

quick wolf
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Random Number Generation. It's what games typically use to dictate drops and the like. It's a standard video game mechanic seen across the industry.

tranquil aspen
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Aye imma just give up lol

quick wolf
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It's there to provide an element of randomness, ensuring you never get the same things twice within a short time frame when it comes to drops.

gusty dove
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dw ive been grinding for a specific fenrist chestpiece on CD but havent gotten it yet

quick wolf
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Some games use it for different reasons, but it's effectively the same principle. To provide an unpredictable outcome.

gusty dove
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and that for quite some weeks

quick wolf
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RNG is what normally keeps players grinding for shit. In games like Division 2 it's effectively a business model that keeps people online and playing the game.

tranquil aspen
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Not gonna spend another day, 4 days is enough

sleek drift
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Just take breaks

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Do something else or farm for something else, come back to it

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Just like the irl grind; once you start getting pissy/frustrated because something is too slow or you're not getting what you want, walk away and go do something else for a bit

quick wolf
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You'll get it eventually just from doing stuff on the side. If actively grinding for things is not your cup of tea, Division 2 might not be your type of game.
Granted though, grinding for stuff is only half the experience. The other half is playing with different builds.

tranquil aspen
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Lol all my builds i wack I just learned the fact the i should not destruct lol

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Now i am filling my library everything

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Talents, cores.

quick wolf
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Yeah, it's in your best interest to fill that up so you have shit you can use later.

tranquil aspen
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I like to grind but not this way lmao because all my friends just easily getting them

rancid sphinx
#

you should change your target every time. target fenris, then chest piece, the back to fenris. i want exotics. i switch between sniper and lmg each time and get exotics almost very run.

tranquil aspen
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Fenris?

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Lol that something new aye

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Fenris as in Fenris build?

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Aye share that build fam

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Btw I really appreciate you all for quick response to my questions I thought had to wait for a day lol

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Thanks bruddas 💯💪🏽

tender wave
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I would be very surprised if changing TL selections around actually increased your chance of drops, but when it comes to luck it's easy to assign success to all kinds of unconnected 'causes', that's why superstitions exist

sleek drift
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Literally pray to the god of luck

rancid sphinx
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knock on wood.

gusty dove
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praying to RNGesus all day but its giving sh*t rolls + talents

silent nymph
#

Man trying to get a system corruption pirce is like trying to find a shiny in a pokemon game

rancid sphinx
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use to do it on floor 10, worked well there. i could try not switching again, but it seemed to have an effect. or maybe not ... or it could be my constant prayers to the loot god.

sleek drift
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Literally DZ without caring about it and it'll probably drop; that shit takes a while

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Took me like 3 hrs in the 5.11 zone when it was in DZ south and I got it randomly off a landmark boss

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Or you can wait for legacy caches to pop up from an event :3

gusty dove
#

yup

unborn ravine
gusty dove
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😔🙏

rancid sphinx
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where are the countdown groups?

gusty dove
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just MM its quicker

rancid sphinx
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lol - you mean easier i think

gusty dove
#

also that

quick wolf
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Both.

rancid sphinx
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my back is broken from carrying so many noobs. i don't understand why they are joining heroic with 6 pieces of heartbreaker on...?

unborn ravine
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They don't know any better...they are noobs as you said.

gusty dove
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☝️

rancid sphinx
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there has been so many doing this. i thought maybeeeee something i don't know about.

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well one fella had 4 pieces and then 2 pieces of aces

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so no glitch i should be aware of?

quick wolf
#

They'll learn eventually. The problem is everyone just kicks them instead of telling them why it's wrong/doesn't work.

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So they're left to figure it out on their own.

unborn ravine
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Most of the time they don't listen anyway.

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Like doing VIP because it's right there despite most of the group saying not to do it.

paper phoenix
#

Least favorite map or part of the map? For me it's a tie between the stranded tanker and the big maze-like CERA camp near the Washington Monument.

upbeat birch
#

I accidently started new york expansion and it did not even ask me if I wanted the boost, lol

azure lintel
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😐

mystic fog
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You wanted a boost? well you can't have it 😄 better turn that mindset to a grindset sweetheart 😄 XD

mystic fog
upbeat birch
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I wanted to level slow and now I am 31 😛

mystic fog
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xD

azure lintel
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then you should have chosen the option to the left when creating a new character

upbeat birch
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I leveled until lvl 6 and took the mission

azure lintel
#

ah

mystic fog
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i'm tryingh to recreate a Catachan jungle fighter on my division 2 char 😂

silent nymph
#

Why THE F is the system corruption gear set so hard to come by? Like i wanna get my back pack and not get munched on by sweats over here

torpid iron
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anyone else facing freezing for 1 sec during the game?

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is it because of the last update?

summer frost
paper phoenix
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Only thing I've gotten is when there's a lot going on onscreen it tends to freeze and drop me back to my console's home screen. But that's maybe 1 in 10 sessions.

bitter wraith
#

The trig bounty might as well be fucking legendary

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Im close to quitting this shit manhunt

mystic fog
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yeah i feel ya XD

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challenging difficulty my well sculpted behind >.>

tender wave
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call for backup

bitter wraith
#

F massive. Nerf everything into the ground

paper phoenix
bitter wraith
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Im done fuck this shit game

paper phoenix
#

The No checkpoint thing is absolute bullshit

bitter wraith
#

Greedy scum company that nerf everything

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Not even striker can do it

opal shard
azure lintel
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call for backup

plush otter
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also ill just call out the hypocrisy of asking for them to nerf difficulty and then complaining that they nerf everything into the ground.....

bitter wraith
plush otter
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except that there is a healthgate that makes that impossible

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also, if you are so tilted on that bounty, just drop it to challenging difficulty, you dont have to do it on heroic

paper phoenix
plush otter
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it really isnt, on challenging its a cakewalk, with the healthscaling down to hard its about 1/3 of the health+armour total for the mission, i can not imagine anyone with even a barely competent build with even average game knowledge not beign able to complete it on lower diffs

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and otherwise just matchmake into bounties and hope for a carry, or call for a backup and hope for someone competent

paper phoenix
#

I did it with a 4pc HF and the Scorpio and my SHD level in the low 400s. 1.4m armor. It still took me 90 minutes and 4 tries solo because every enemy was elite and there was tons of cheap blind-fire one-taps from the UGV operators that broke my full armor bar from across the room. I finally beat it but it took tons of kiting.

bitter wraith
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No point in adding a manhunt that isnt on heroic and results in a constant bombardment of grenades

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Hope they axe this from the game because this is ridiculous considering legendary doesnt even exist for bounties

plush otter
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and i hope they dont listen to people like you and keep taking out any and all challenges out of the game, the manhunt bounties have been some of the best things they have added and part of that is the challenge of them, and again, if it too much for you, drop the difficulty, just admit its not for you and let others have their fun

paper phoenix
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I didn't mind it, I just thought it was weirdly scaled difficulty wise

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I can solo level 4 CPs all day long and maybe die once or twice. I've never gotten my ass beat as badly as I did on the Trig manhunt. It may have said Challenging but it was 1 or 2 levels higher than that.

quick wolf
#

Literally use an EP build and not one of the enemies can touch you... Fire chem does wonders to groups of enemies.

elfin hazel
#

its weirdly scaled difficulty wise in a good way due to it making challenging & heroic feel somewhat challenging again

quick wolf
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The people who think the new bounties are hard should've seen what Legendary was like before it was nerfed like 2 years ago.

tender wave
elfin hazel
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I honestly do not remember the last time I had any sort of trouble with any mission

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it had to be like pre WONY & right after WONY so these harder manhunts are a good step in the right direction

tender wave
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chirpy took me about 5 tries, but then I was soloing in heroic with all directives (mantis build) so I was expecting it to be difficult

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some of the ones last season I found quite tricky as well, have to mentally readjust from usual gameplay and treat them a bit more like a legendary

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or just go turret & drone afk build I guess

elfin hazel
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true

tranquil aspen
tranquil aspen
inner elbow
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I recently answered a backup call from a shd 100+ doing a Tidal Basin Legendary.
At first glance I thought, okay this is going to be a challenge to carry.
Upon inspecting their gear I noticed they were running Strikers with mostly 2/10 rolls, uncalibrated, unoptimized, all I could think in that moment was, dude, why?

tranquil aspen
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I think that was me lmao

inner elbow
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If you're not going to make an effort, don't expect people to carry you through the new Legendaries

tranquil aspen
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I have smg striker build didn’t know about optimize stuff lol

inner elbow
#

Recalibration is the cheapest method, doesn't cost much mats

tranquil aspen
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Yeah for now i just farm talents

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And cores to max those out and save it till i get better pieces

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Then i use on them

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@inner elbow is there a room where you able to share screenshots of your own build

inner elbow
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I can do it in DMs
Just let me know which builds

tranquil aspen
tender wave
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there's a spreadsheet linked in the pinned messages in #td2-build-advice with a number of strong builds

tranquil aspen
tender wave
#

that one does, yes

torpid iron
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any idea why game is freezing for like 1 sec ?

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is it due to last update?

tranquil aspen
bitter wraith
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Is chirpy, lucky and micro like how trig was and really overpowered for the entire mission and feels like legendary or are they actually normal and are heroic open world and mission standard??

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Also, some stuff requires premium credits to buy, how can i get this stuff without using real money for premium credits i don't have?

tender wave
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they're slightly harder missions, but not as difficult as Trig in my experience

tender wave
bitter wraith
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Rip those items then 💀

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And is the entire anderson manhunt hard af to do solo? I needed 3 random people to help me do trig

tender wave
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did you try cheesing it with a drone/turret combo? You have to play it safe, avoid unnecessary risks

lavish fulcrum
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Just getting back in, someone told me my gear was dookie and that I should run a countdown and target Heartbreaker set. Equipped all pieces and my damage went from 1.2mil to 650k. What am I missing?

paper phoenix
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Might have lost some red cores you had on your previous gear

lavish fulcrum
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Yea, all the one's from Heartbreaker are blue.

tender wave
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HB rolls with blue cores by default, if you want damage you have to recalibrate them to red (or use a red-based set instead)

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oh, and when you say 'all pieces' I really hope you don't mean 6 pieces

lavish fulcrum
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Oh should I just wear max 4 and then piece out other things?

low flame
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And you also have to know how the set works. You have to build stacks for it to be effective

tender wave
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there's a spreadsheet linked in the pinned messages in #td2-build-advice with a number of strong builds so I'd suggest looking through some of those first

low flame
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And yes just 4 pieces, most choose not to use the backpack but the chest and 3 others

lavish fulcrum
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How do I reroll the cores for damage?

low flame
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Do you know what recalibration is?

lavish fulcrum
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I do not.

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Also, thanks for the help. I appreciate it.

low flame
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It basically works where you find a good stat on one item and you’re able to transfer that stat to another item. The original item with the good stat will be destroyed, and you must replace a bad stat. You can only do this once per item. The recalibration bench is required to do this. You have to extract red cores from items, but it has to be of that armor type (so to put a red core on chest you need to extract a red core on a chest) and you can then put that onto any item, as long as it is not recalibrated already. That is how it works

tender wave
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It might be best to look up a video on recalibration, it takes a bit of explaining but is a very useful endgame mechanic for making builds

low flame
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Yeah it will take a lot of typing and some time when you can just look at a 5-10 minute video

lavish fulcrum
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I'll take a look, thanks for the direction!

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Dang! Went from 650k to 1.6 million with a few recalibrations!

azure lintel
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Cookie cutter Red HB is Chest/Gloves.Holster/Knees Ceska Vigilance backpack and coyote mask

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annnd i didnt read the timestamp on the chat again.

long oyster
#

So why do people leave countdowns before it's done?

quick wolf
# long oyster So why do people leave countdowns before it's done?

A few reasons.

  • People going to VIP, which is the slowest of any other objective that can be done.
  • Too many people already crashed, so they leave too, presuming extraction will be impossible.
  • The group splits and diverges into different objectives, lowering the overall amount of loot everyone gets.
  • They realize they're playing with low SHD people and assume they don't know shit, so they leave to "save themselves the trouble." Thinking it'll be a train wreck.
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There's probably other reasons, but yeah. If by willingly leave and not just getting booted from a crash, it's typically one of those. ^

#

Obviously to people who are actually rational with their decision making, this might seems like a list of poor reasons to leave. After all, you're still actively getting loot and earning countdown requisition. Even if you're unable to extract, you're still getting shit.

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But the people who leave because of the above, aren't the most rational people, it seems.

long oyster
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It makes it kind of unfun.

hybrid ore
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The crashes are honestly the biggest reason these days.
Although, if a team does basically all wipe on the first Hunters, it's usually a good sign that you're going to either take too long for objectives, or fail in the extraction.

long oyster
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Everyone left after the first set of Hunters...Like we merked them and they didn't even bother to go through the thing. We made it to extraction with three people and got ganked by Hunters and Black Tusk.

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Countdown is fun, but people leaving out of the blue drives me up a wall lol

quick wolf
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I understand what the devs were going for, but Countdown needs backfilling. At the very least up until the final objective is done.
Wiping at extract because a bunch of people were already gone to begin with, makes you feel like you're being punished for something you had no control over.

long oyster
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It's like getting a call for backup for a Legendary run and you don't have the right gear on and you die.

quick wolf
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It's even as simple as just making it so that the UI presents two options: Join an in-progress Countdown and get 1.5x more loot and 2x more requisition, or make a new Countdown group with no changes to rewards.

hybrid ore
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Above every thing else, I want one very simple change: have backup calls be accurate.
Too many times I've seen "call for help: story" and joined and it's Heroic/Leg.

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I want to help newbies, not people farm.

long oyster
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Now, I go in with my healer/skill build on and go from there.

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But normally I accept em all, since I'm usually on to have fun and play, rather than chase loot.

quick wolf
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At this point I just want an option to reliably farm Field Recon Data. I'm sitting on mountains of SHD Calibration, yet being Bottlenecked by the FRD.

#

Thanks to Countdown, no less. lmao

#

Maybe I'd actually go to Summit if that was Summit's thing.

#

But Summit gives such a shit amount...

long oyster
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True, and the watch doesn't give any, does it?

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Besides, I'm no where near maxing my watch, but I have set builds already

hybrid ore
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Frankly, as long as you have CHC capped off then you can pretty much slow down.
Skill Haste is nice too.

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Most of the rest are nice to have, but don't hurt yourself rushing for it.

long oyster
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Well, I love being a healer. All I need now is some more Future Initiative gear, but I have the BTSU gloves.

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And I have some substantial builds already, with a CHC/CHD build already.;

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Those where the first two things I hunted.

paper phoenix
#

Just tried a 2-man Countdown on Hard for shits and giggles with my work buddy/clanmate. Holy f'ing Hunters!

dire nacelle
#

This is pretty weird question but I started playing the division 2 again because I got warlords of new York, beat the xpac and now I've got a ton of stuff to do, I stopped playing before seasons even started, am I too late to seriously give this game a shot like min max and all or does it not matter, I'm a bit of a completionist and I'm guessing you can get stuff from past seasons right?

brazen mountain
dire nacelle
brazen mountain
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You gotta buy that

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But the mask is obtainable

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But the full black ballistic mask (full black hunter mask) you gotta buy that

#

There are many different hunter masks is what I’m trying to say

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And you gotta buy a certain one if you want it

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But the others are obtainable by playing

knotty wave
dire nacelle
#

How's the DZ on ps4, pretty fair or are you getting your loot nabbed usually

knotty wave
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Tbh I don't do DZ alot, been playing pve content mostly since I have so much to catch up on, I've seen stuff around about invisible glitches and the lot so avoided it for now toll my shd level is a bit higher. Cause I'll get minced if I go in now lol

dire nacelle
#

Not sure what to do after completing warlords of New York, gotta gear grind, can you solo that tower mode?

brazen mountain
brazen mountain
#

Oh yea

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Manhunts too

knotty wave
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You can solo it yes, on normal, gear sets easy to farm in countdown for the best rolls, there's legendary missions as well, cause even with the best build, your shd lvl matters in most cases really is what I've found.

#

After all this time since launch, I've only just started doing hunter masks and got the shield splinter er 😂

mild vortex
#

WELP, I just got Bullet King on my first try

#

I am both excited and underwhelmed, but at the same time, I got exactly what I wanted so I can't complain

paper phoenix
#

I went on a tear today and ran level 4 CPs for a few hours. Finished out the apparel event. That paragon mask looks dumb, like a diaper.

molten spire
#

yeah it doesn't fit the nose of my male char at all

knotty wave
#

Is there any other tips to get the carthasis.... I'm exhausted man.. 😅😅😅

potent lava
#

Do I have to beat the invaded missions to make the strongholds invaded? Trying to get technician and my last task is complete any invaded stronghold mission, but none of them are invaded

paper phoenix
#

Do you have the option to change mission type?

paper phoenix
little relic
#

@knotty wave farm masks

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If you have the blueprint u could buy an exotic cache and maybe get lucky with countdown vendor

potent lava
paper phoenix
#

Yeah, you've got a little bit of legwork to do

knotty wave
#

Been doing that for hours

#

Farming countdown exotic cache, I still don't have the blueprint, so it's not in my loot pool 😕

paper phoenix
#

With the last update did they also change how the mobs would fight each other in the street? My buddy and I have noticed over the last few days that we can turn a corner and there's 14 guys from two or three different factions throwing down in the intersection.

knotty wave
#

I just keep getting coyote.. 😕

dire nacelle
#

What should I be doing for high level gear? I just finished warlords of new york

warm minnow
#

Open world stuff before jumping into countdown

brazen mountain
#

It’s your best bet

#

Just don’t do heroic till you have better gear

paper phoenix
#

Summit is another option

quick wolf
#

Holy fuck... Talk about getting railed. I can't decide whether or not to keep doing Countdown on Heroic. I feel like I keep getting matched up with the same clowns making the shittiest decisions.

dire nacelle
#

Can you do countdown solo?

quick wolf
#

I can. And have gone back and forth between at this point.

#

At least half of my heroic matches today have been utter shite. Can't tell if it's bad luck or what.

#

The only bright side is that I've made at least a little progress towards collecting the weapons I need from my list.

paper phoenix
#

In Countdown are there Hunters constantly popping up outside the areas?

dire nacelle
#

Is there any incentive to grind for gear in NYC or is it just diff location

quick wolf
paper phoenix
dire nacelle
quick wolf
#

If there's target loot your after, Wall Street is a pretty good mission.

#

It's short, has like 4 named enemies, and a bunch of loot crates within and just outside towards the end.

paper phoenix
quick wolf
#

Nah, they all spawn at once.

#

The obvious 4 at the start are sprinkled around the countermeasures. But the remaining 4 kick in the door at once during extract.

paper phoenix
#

Nice to know. I only figured out the one countermeasure that provided headshot damage.

willow flax
fiery cloud
#

Happy Halloween 🎃 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃

gusty dove
#

orite spooptober is happening

hard otter
paper phoenix
#

K. I don’t have the issues fighting the Hunters like my Buddy does, but he’s barely level 209 and I’m almost at 500

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Only thing that really sucks is that my HF relies on the shield, which they almost always negate. So if I get caught out in the open trying to stun lock them with the Scorpio I usually end up getting torn up trying to rush to cover.

hard otter
#

if you're almost 500 u should have other sets no?

#

Heartbreaker sets are very popular in countdown

oak prawn
hard otter
quick wolf
#

Aw hell yeah, halloween time. petter

#

Happy cosplay day everyone.

brisk bridge
#

I'm going to dress up as The Division 2 game crashes.

gusty dove
#

best cosplay

quick wolf
#

So basically you're just a picture frame with a giant print out of the game with a transparent white overlay?

brisk bridge
#

😄

keen lily
#

Does stomping an enemy with a shield count as Melee attack?

quick wolf
#

Anything that uses the melee bind is a melee attack.

#

If that bind smacks the poor sap on the other end with the shield, it counts.

hybrid ore
#

Been thinking for a while about the possibility of adding Exotic versions of Skills, would need to be a pretty hefty penalty of course.

#

Sniper Turret could get Velocity ammo, shield with spikes, etc.

#

Bulwark would be able to cover your sides, Jammer Pulse could be a shock feature kinda like Keener's can.

oak prawn
quick wolf
#

How about exotic mods? I've got plenty of ideas.
Exotic Target Acquisition Gear Mod (Red): 10% of the damage dealt is returned as health.
Exotic Vestment Prototype Gear Mod (Blue): Decreases damage from all sources by 20%, decreases Hazard Protection 20%.
Exotic Utility Maintenance Gear Mod (Yellow): Skills have their cooldown decreased by 1% per skill action taken.
Exotic Resilient Vestment Addon Mod (Blue): Hazards last twice as long but no longer damage you.

#

I've got more on my mind.

hybrid ore
#

Interesting, I was honestly trying to avoid specific %'s as it can get real messy real fast, but I like the idea.
Oh and of course: Fire Foam, like the Cleaners have for the Exotic Skills idea.

#

ngl, this was mostly in service of firefoam, for 1 reason: EP firefoam builds.

quick wolf
#

Exotic Cluster Grenade mod: The Cluster Grenades apply different status effects.
Exotic Incendiary Grenade mod: The Incendiary Grenade no longer deals explosive damage but instead acts as napalm, prolonging the burn status effect by 100%.

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Exotic Weapon Magazine mod: Every reload has a small chance of applying a single status effect to the next magazine.
Exotic Weapon Muzzle mod: Extra damage done depending on where the enemy is hit.
Exotic Weapon Scope mod: Damage is amplified by 1% per meter from the target.

rich shadow
molten spire
#

Buff Reassigned!

oak prawn
#

Dose dark path come out next week or the week after?

#

Haven't been on the game in a few days

oak prawn
gusty dove
#

become the hunter 🎃

oak prawn
#

You can't buy SHD watches least I don't think

low flame
#

Just make your own shd watches

oak prawn
#

DYI I see

#

DIY

open comet
#

I would like the following Exotic Mods:

  1. Immune to cheaters in the DZ
  2. Immune to PvE Fire DMG in DZ
  3. Immune to the glitched traps
  4. Ability to see and shoot invisible players
  5. Ability to scale my DMG to Bulwark abusing players
  6. Ability to not get stuck on invis walls on the floor
  7. Immune to dmg done by corner glitching player
  8. Unbreakable/Tardigrade procs reliably despite that single roll of armour regen
  9. 25% reduction to incoming crit damage
  10. 20% Hazard Protection
  11. 20% Status Effects
  12. Armour Regen
  13. I can go on
inner storm
#
  1. total freezing issue solved
open comet
#

Yeah the crashes, still not fixed

tender wave
open comet
#

Any word on a Fix to Bulwark tomorrow? Tuesday is the day it would happen or must we endue another week or 2 of a broken mess of a game? This Bulwark shit seems to be the final nail in the coffin, even the last remaining players are quitting

inner storm
#

Sometimes i think they throw some crap in the game in purpose. 😄

open comet
#

Im more of the thinking that nothing they do is on purpose

#

oops we have damage glitch with expertise, oops we reintroduced unlimited traps/invis bug, oops, we made bulwark op, oops unlimited resources, oops this oops that

low flame
#

If you think those “mods” should be mods, I think you need some meds bad

#

Just say you want them fixed without covering it

open comet
inner storm
#

Think they don´t even bother to cover up anything

low flame
#

Bruh I was joking with the “you need some meds bad” too

#

It’s a thing an npc says from div1

open comet
#

my back is all fucked up, yeah i get it

tender wave
#

Think the code base of the game is just a horrible tangled mess so they can't change anything without causing weird unintended side effects elsewhere

#

Like rifle damage on ARs

open comet
tender wave
#

They had like a year of building the new team before they did anything, I had hoped that year was spent cleaning up the code a bit but I guess it's just too big a job for a small and inexperienced team

open comet
tender wave
#

Profit/cost ratio still better than starting from scratch on a new game, given expected renewal of interest from Netflix film

open comet
#

I suppose, I do think whats really happening is they are banging on the success of Heartland/Mobile/Film to commission the series for a 3rd instalment, I hope its already being made but I dont think it is. Maybe when they release the devs from the other 2 projects then again do we really want the same people that caused the mess to be in charge again? I THINK NOT!

tender wave
#

Poor code is likely as much a fault of too-tight timelines as it is lazy devs (and office culture I guess)

open comet
#

I dont doubt that

gilded perch
rustic fractal
#

Anyone else having problems with comms not dropping from manhunt missions? I tried 3 times on the hornet, Schaeffer and cpt lewis and not one dropped.

inner storm
#

Total time stamp for all is 2 weeks or what ever the time is for it? 2/3 for pointing out the issues and 1/3 for fixing just don´t cut it.

tender wave
rustic fractal
tender wave
#

I've never heard anyone mention that, it seems a bit optimistic

fervent jacinth
#

Bruh istg skill builds in PvP are so goddamn annoying

low lily
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"skill" builds

fervent jacinth
gusty dove
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lol

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summoning pvp players

low lily
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I am always here to talk sh*i about skill builds

fervent jacinth
#

Anyways
The goddamn
Fire sticky

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On
Hight tier
Is
So
Goddamn
Fooking
Annoying

inner storm
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Annoy them with bulwerk 😄

fervent jacinth
#

I file a motion

gusty dove
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haz pro

fervent jacinth
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To ban
Skill builds
In
PvP

tender wave
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If you want balanced pvp gunplay, would you not be better off in cs:go or one of the many other proper pvp games?

low lily
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It doesn't need to be balanced, just pointless cheese things should be removed

tender wave
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Skills are kind of a core element of Division builds

fervent berry
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Skills make this game very cheesy though. It's what makes it so "arcade-y"

low lily
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Skill builds are like builds for new people, they are powerful and really easy to use

little relic
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Till a dog run in or emps and tanks around 😮‍💨 I watch the ppl die

fervent berry
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True, skills builds are quite helpful in early game, but I think they're just as rewarding as in endgame when you tweak things to be "super cheesy"

gusty dove
fervent berry
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Granted, the context of this is PvP and I can't really say the same in PvP when I'm more PvE oriented

gusty dove
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in PvP you'd die more if you were to afk 🤣

hard otter
#

I don't pvp at all. But if fire sticky is annoying just switch skill to emp or hazpro?

golden summit
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EMP won't help, the build that he's probably complaining about is the 100-to-0%, 6 skilltier+overcharge firesticky

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if you get tagged by it and can't kit in time, you die

low lily
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Emp won't really work much tho, skill builds get they skills back really fast

golden summit
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it's pretty funny but very situational

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there's also the matter of if you get tagged or initiated on by fire sticky at the start of a gunfight, your inability to ADS means you'll lose any trade/push immediately afterward

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hazpro doesn't really help here

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If you are trying to hold a corner and you get punished with a firesticky around it, and then don't/can't fall back in time, you die

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and finally if your opponent is lucky enough to hit you with firesticky at the start of a facetrade and has time to blow it up before you shoot him to death, you'll also lose

gilded perch
golden summit
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the 100% fire protection build counters the cheesy 100-to-0 build but it makes you lose against the 0 skill tier usage of it

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It costs too much of your build to become fire immune to the point where you lose way too much damage from lack of crit

gilded perch
golden summit
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yeah, it's still annoying to die to fire sticky though

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but it does what it's supposed to, it breaks advantageous corner holds, basically it's grenade that actually comes out fast enough to be relevant

gilded perch
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then just use hazard build then make them annoying, but not crying every single time

golden summit
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that's counterproductive

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if you take the hazpro build the guy with the 0skill tier firesticky just shoots you to death because you have no damage lmao

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the only thing the hazpro build is good against is to counter the cheesy sticky build and frankly it's almost never worth it, really only just to stick a middle finger up at someone trying to use it right outside of a darkzone checkpoint

tender wave
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Firesticky them first?

golden summit
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like in invaded darkzone some people like to cheese kill people with the 100-to-0 firesticky build right on the door but if you know they're there you can basically tell them to stop that by putting on the fire immune build and running out of the door

gilded perch
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that's why i say that is rock–paper–scissors, there are no "perfect build" to let you counter everying

golden summit
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nah it's not even rock paper scissors

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It's not worth dedicating any part of your build to combating the sticky unless you're in a situation where it's pretty much just to flex

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just gotta play around it

gilded perch
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change different build to counter, handle different situation, also including in strategy of pvp

golden summit
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the cheese sticky build sucks in conflict because its CDs are too long and it's way too much trouble for DZ ganking except in the aforementioned door-games

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in which case you're not even getting any drops from people because you're killing them right outside a door

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it's funny but not good

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and again, like I just said, the 0-skill-tier usage of sticky as basically a fast grenade is just something you have to play around

gilded perch
#

i mean, for example, you got fire, maybe you kill him, or you die and respawn, then you change hazard build to counter
if you find out hazard build are not work for someone, then just switch back to other build which can fight
that why you have 16 build slot...

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only use 1 build, then got counter, and cry
that's a salty player, not pvp player, honestly

golden summit
#

You don't understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that there is basically zero value is "building to counter firesticky". It's not a build problem in any serious situation.

gilded perch
golden summit
#

There is one situation in which building to counter fire sticky produces a result and that situation is silly to begin with.

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If you build hazpro to try and counter firesticky in facetrades, then you go from "I have a chance to win this gunfight if he missses" to "I will literally ALWAYS LOSE this gunfight because now my build has no damage"

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it compromises your build way too much

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getting 100% hazpro costs 9 minor cores and mod slots

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That's 9 minor cores and mod slots that aren't crit

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If you're able to win a gunfight when you're down 9 lines of crit, the guy using the sticky is probably braindead

gusty dove
timber hatch
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Going haz pro in that situation makes you completely immune to one of their players (at least) and effectively turns the game into a 3v4 where you have an easy target to farm for kills until you force them to switch. There's absolutely value into having it as a build option, it's just that it's not something you want to run 100% of the time

golden summit
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effectively turns the game into a 3v4
Yeah, it does. For the enemy team.

Cheese sticky on the enemy team is basically a dead slot for them who's sometimes annoying by getting a "free kill", he's nowhere near as threatening as any competent gunman

gilded perch
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bruh, if you meaning 0 fire sticky on dps build, i have to say, you are too young
obviously the hazard build i talking about, is ready for counter fire skill build
using fire sticky on dps build, this is truly 0 value dude, there no strong pvp player take fire but not emp
0 fire sticky no damage, not long fire status, 50s above cooldown

golden summit
#

0 tier sticky is enough to win a gunfight if you use it to punish someone holding cover. Which these days is more and more common with how many people are running umbra and need to stick somewhere to build their buff, or who are just kitting around a corner after taking scratch damage

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I die to and kill people with 0 tier fire sticky all the time in DZ, haven't played conflict seriously in a hot minute but i imagine it can't possibly be all that different

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if you can punish someone with it it's a free kill, they can't aim and you can

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way more effective than EMP, EMP only takes down shields but doesn't keep them from, y'know, shooting you back

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I would legit rather get EMPed while holding a crusader shield than get fire stickied

gilded perch
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that's why i say you are too young...
0 tier emp doing same thing with fire, 50s per fire, and 26s per emp, and emp even bigger range

golden summit
#

If I get EMPed I can sometimes just shoot my way through the trade since they have to recover for a second after firing EMP sticky anyway

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If I get fired, I die, they shoot right through my shield and then kill me

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the fire status is debilitating for longer than the EMP knockback

gilded perch
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i don't know why 0 tier fire sticky are main reason you die
but every player who good at pvp, they use emp sticky but not fire

golden summit
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I never said that, I just said if I get hit by the fire sticky, i'm gonna die

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The main reason I die is just losing gun trades lol

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I don't hit enough headshots

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EMP sticky is better in conflict than DZ but from my (limited?) experience in conflict, fire sticky still gets the kills, it's just 1. often excessive and 2. has that longer CD you mentioned meaning you get punished for using it excessively

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In conflict with teamshooting you just need a 1 second stumble

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In DZ 1v1s you basically trade EMP sticky for their shield but then you still have to gunfight, and you risk missing the sticky for zero value anyway

gilded perch
#

🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃 🙃

golden summit
#

I see we've been reduced to the point of "I don't have any serious arguments beyond citing 'well that's what good players use' and spamming mocking emojis" so I'll let my points stand.

inner storm
#

Some tech freak may point out the crash issue for others :;D?

gilded perch
#

i spamming emoji because i don't know how to communicate with you, i am trying to let you know how pvp work by my experience, as a good pvp player, but you are never understand
i say good player are use emp but not fire, you persist fire are useful, then

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🙃 div2question 🙃

golden summit
#

Do you have a serious argument beyond "well that's what GOOD players use"?

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Being on fire is death if you get pushed, simple as

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It's not bad, maybe not optimal in conflict where CDs matter, but you try getting set on fire and winning a 1v1 gunfight in the DZ

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and, alternatively, try using it in 1v1s without a team beside you

gilded perch
#

how about 1v1,me and you, i take your fire sticky for free
i feel theory are completely useless right now

golden summit
#

You can land an EMP sticky and lose the a following 1v1 gunfight easily
If you land a firesticky it's almost impossible to lose the 1v1 afterward

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Best you can do is chicken dance for a couple of seconds and anyone who can aim will kill you at that close range
The way to survive it is to roll behind more cover, and that's the same situation you could survive getting EMP stickied too

stray comet
#

Can someone tell me where I can find the Assault Rifle PDR blueprint? It's the only one of AR that I'm missing. Can't find it anywhere. Was it perhaps part of a Season that I've missed?

tender wave
stray comet
tender wave
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Yeah I'm fairly certain it was added in a season (same time as the in sync talent). I know other people have been pestering the devs about adding a new way to get season-specific blueprints, so I guess there's a chance they'll introduce something.

stray comet
granite zephyr
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Mean while me farming challenging control points to get every blueprint

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I got the 9mm extended mag but I now need to find another for the Dark winter

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Rip, curse the vectors with different ammo types

granite zephyr
#

10 percent weapon damage to healing is too generous

hybrid ore
#

Or heck, even give us a Gearset for each specific one. If we're not getting more of the Div1 gearsets, might as well go all-out wacky.

knotty quail
#

Support station when

inner elbow
#

Lunch boxes when

rich shadow
inner elbow
#

Make Toilet Paper great again

fervent jacinth
#

Oh jst remove the ability of skill builds in PvP
Or if y'all want skill builds then a skill build only mode😒😒

low lily
#

Get good 😺

granite zephyr
#

Skill build adds diversity and caution to pvp, a good addition

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Not the fear of being burned or blown up but the fear of being ensnared and shot to pulp

granite zephyr
fervent jacinth
gilded perch
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before remove skill in pvp, i think you guys emp are removed already, or hazard pro build are banned so you guys complain skill, right?

fervent jacinth
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I jst have a problem against why fire sticky or stinger full tier can one shot a full blue

gilded perch
#

so full red should be ban? nemesis also should be ban

granite zephyr
fervent jacinth
granite zephyr
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Skills are powerful, but have a timer, u like weapons of course

low lily
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Emp is usless against skill builds, unless you have like Hard wired emp build

fervent jacinth
gilded perch
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cause full red also melt 6 blue just like full skill tier

fervent jacinth
fervent jacinth
low lily
#

Have you guys seen a full 4 man group hired wired seeker mine team?

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🫂

granite zephyr
fervent jacinth
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And you have a vid bout it
@low lily

low lily
#

Yeah

gilded perch
low lily
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Nahh didn't save

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But even with full tank, it was mental

fervent jacinth
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Why would one have a hazpro or explo resistance build when focusing on CHC n chd with max blyes

granite zephyr
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A skill build is like a grenade, strong, lethal, short burst, but it takes time to rearm

fervent jacinth
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Unless ofc you're mental n don't care bout weapons
Which i respect

fervent jacinth
#

I wanna counter that so so hard

gilded perch
fervent jacinth
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But ykw nvm

low lily
#

Aarya have you seen that russian mortar team tho, not sure if you have played eu e enough?

granite zephyr
gilded perch
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you won't use a fire pokemon to against a water pokemon right? then why you do this at division pvp

granite zephyr
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Be mediocre and be average, or go big damage, go big and or go home

fervent jacinth
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The ones who kept shouting in my ear
Goddamn i think i got deaf for a couple minutes

granite zephyr
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That is why you need a team, have a skill paired with a dps and you have a good pair of a cloak and dagger

fervent jacinth
low lily
#

Lemonade and some other guys, still don't understand how they mortar shoot twice as fast, we even tested with 3 other groups one day, no one mortar was so fast

rich shadow
granite zephyr
fervent jacinth
granite zephyr
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Or I just didn't research a build enough for it

low lily
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Nahh they didn't have btsu checked

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The usual hard wired one

fervent jacinth
rich shadow
tranquil aspen
#

Question, i am stuck at 35/40 side missions for weeks and i dont see any last 5 missions on map. Am I missing something? Do i need glases or what.

low lily
#

Working also have barely time to play, and doing some mw2 when i am free

gilded perch
fervent jacinth
#

Ahh yes
Mw2

tranquil aspen
granite zephyr
low lily
#

Boosting kills

granite zephyr
#

Just saw this dude snipe one shot to the head of a rogue who keeps strafing

hybrid ore
#

We all playing nice in here tonight?

low lily
tranquil aspen
granite zephyr
low lily
#

Ohh maybe he got lucky

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Pop shot snipers broken on consoles tho

tranquil aspen
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I gave up lol i just di weapons lvling not going for camos 3 gold camos took hella effort since very low healt and fast ttk

granite zephyr
surreal orbit
granite zephyr
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MA man legit just waits for 1minute for the rogue to get into the line of sight and kablam, flat onto the ground

tender wave
tranquil aspen
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Thanks yall

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And also back to scorpio grind wish me luck lol

fervent berry
#

Could they possibly be the 5 classified missions in which you have to find their entrances on the map?

jolly kettle
#

Tomorrow its chirpy League:).

fervent berry
#

I logged on today for the first time in a while and those missions were highlighted for me, for some reason, despite finishing them ages ago

tranquil aspen
granite zephyr
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Full status, 430k damage on without perpetuation, 550 sumn with it

jolly kettle
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Yeah it will be fun. 4 missions on hard and then wait.

granite zephyr
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Yeah

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Just take all stars and farm convoys for another 20 stars when no missions

jolly kettle
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Excotic weapons too

granite zephyr
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I don't think I need to find more lol, got most exotics except the ravenous

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My luck has been up recently, 3 exo cache opened in a row, dropped Merciless and Waveform, 2i didn't have before

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And plus I got 3 pestilence and a new exotic ninja bike from a 40 minute stroll

tranquil aspen
#

Could anyone help grind for Scorpio on shotgun targetloot? I return back the favor

granite zephyr
#

DZ of course

granite zephyr
#

I always get a scorpio or two, or just the lefty

tranquil aspen
#

How???

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I grinded for 4 days

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Only sweet dreams is what i get

fervent berry
#

It's all about luck, I'd say

granite zephyr
#

I can count 5 scorpio through my whole gamelife

tranquil aspen
tranquil aspen
granite zephyr
#

Status effect build, use it with fire and you can burn multiple people, when the target on fire dies, the fire spreads and the duration is reset by50%, and the effect spreads to any enemies upon a status effected target dies by 15 meters

fervent berry
#

Eclipse Protocol set or EP, btw

granite zephyr
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And with an exotic called vile, the total damage of a concussion grenade is added to the status effect

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And combined with the scorpio. If you apply all 5 effects on the the target before they die, boom, scorpio effects spread to all

fervent berry
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4-piece EP, Vile and a Golan = good to go 🔥

granite zephyr
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I use 4 Piece , vile, Firm handshake

fervent jacinth
#

Who tf uses future initiative healer in conflict

granite zephyr
#

I have

golden summit
#

red FI isn't even that bad, that damage boost is nutty

granite zephyr
#

FI with the Perfect Opportunistic

granite zephyr
#

And with perpetuation it went up to 15~ seconds

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16500000

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Grenade damage in form of vile

fervent jacinth
#

This is on 1.5 mil armour
And buffs can put you upto 400k

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Got a 10 kills 2 deaths match jst now

tender wave
#

you get three in TB (one from each of the two warhounds, one from Wyvern) - not sure if/where it shows up in your inventory, but it still should let you give one to that doctor in the contaminated zone if that's what you need it for

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what do you need them for?

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I mean, you literally have to pick up wyvern's one before you can fire off the flare to finish the tidal basin mission

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iirc, even if you give one to her it doesn't actually change anything, there's no 'quest complete' and I think she continues to ask for them

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the main use for them is for the bioreactor you take from darpa, which is theoretically intended to make more

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well, it doesn't change anything or give you any rewards for doing so, so you're not missing out on much

fiery cloud
#

Hey Kettle

tender wave
#

hey Saph

placid shadow
#

in new york it feels like the team improved a lot in world building and stuff, wonder if the old guys still work on the game

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like the enviromental artits

late crescent
#

question crashes on PC are fixed?

tender wave
#

nope

late crescent
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But they didn't said they FOUND the issue?

tender wave
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no, they've patched some issues but there are many, and most people who crashed a lot before are still crashing

late crescent
#

what a Joke XD then not worth play still.

tender wave
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give it a try, maybe the ones they've patched will help out in your specific case

late crescent
#

just i've tried right now and i've got ramdonly crashed

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on the new season intro

tender wave
#

guess you're not one of the lucky ones then

late crescent
#

yep seem like

inner storm
#

Just got a crash to desktop with the crash report witch is something new

remote lynx
#

I crashed three times since the last Server Maintenance that removed the Stage Left Freebie

brisk bridge
#

RNG in crashes too!

inner storm
#

Re-install made some difference for a 50 min run :D.

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Haven´t had crash reports for a long long time now

brisk bridge
#

Just had a most interesting and tense encounter when running open world with randoms. As we took over the No Hope Hotel with 3 directives on in heavy rain, our path intersected with an Elite Resource Convoy in the area. And right after clearing the control point while still fighting the convoy, some rogue agents show up. It was a firefight for the ages.

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I was running turret/drone on my new alt, so the rain and low visibility severely restricted the range of my toys.

inner storm
#

Had your hands full i see 😄

brisk bridge
#

But the good guys won in the end.

calm oyster
#

What’s the loot allocation for today

dire nacelle
#

I'm at level 40 and the gear I'm getting has the same stats, how do I get higher Stat gear? I'm doing hard missions currently, the guns have higher stats but the armor drops at the same numbers

quick wolf
#

The harder, the better.

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Challenging isn't that big of a leap from hard so I recommend doing that minimum.

brisk bridge
fervent berry
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Could probably matchmake for random missions/open world and groups would most likely be on Heroic content. Let them carry you petter

safe pelican
#

Hey guys, any tips or fixes for the random crashes that has happened alot recently? Playing on PC. Started happening a few days ago, probably around the time of the "maintenance to remove a certain item from vendor".

silent nymph
#

man, the system corruption gear set is such a hastle to get like just increase the drop rate of it at least

serene rivet
#

Can i do the Psycho Mask in New York on my own? And without a team?

late crescent
elfin hazel
#

setting EAC to one core is really your only bet

placid shadow
#

any word on fixing foundry immortality thing ?

#

it's like clickbaity youtubers dream come true at this point

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this time they aint lying when saying "OMG15234IMMPORTAL BUILD GOD BUILD SOLO LEGENDARYxXX

loud storm
#

Why is it so (insert bad wording here) useless to do the 3th encounter in countdown before the main objective it gives you the loot like every encounter does but apart from that all you get "extra" is 1 countdown credit ..... i mean wtf

rancid sphinx
#

no no... you get 2 credits

serene rivet
dire nacelle
#

Is it just me or is some dz areas not as popular as others

reef reef
#

it happens

dire nacelle
#

I just extracted twice full packages and no one came to take my stuff or nothing

reef reef
#

sometimes the targeted loot is not great, so less people go there in the first place

loud storm
# rancid sphinx no no... you get 2 credits

Only if you extract succesfull cus it doubles the earned credits..... but its just sad that the give F all for it basicly. (And duting loadi g screen hints it says "doing the 3th encounter gives extra rewards") while not wrong cus 1 credit is a reward its still just stupid it should give you at least 20/30 extra if you do all 3

fiery nimbus
#

I couldn’t even get any extraction bc of one group

fiery cloud
#

Hey Kettle, Pain, Zephyr, Crash

azure lintel
#

There are some really weird builds on those SHD 250K+ people. What on Earth is all Armor Core and every slot with Armor Regen/Explosive Resistance/Protection from elites with the Sharpshooter Tree and Nemesis for?!

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browse leaderboards if you're board and check some of these out they are weird as heck

fervent berry
#

@fiery cloud what up champ?

fiery cloud
#

CD

dire nacelle
#

I noticed a lot of high level SHD agents don't use gear sets, are they kind of useless?

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Same with exotics, most of em I seen wear only high end gear

reef reef
#

def not useless, some are very powerful if you know what you are doing

zenith sphinx
#

who sells the Vector Blueprint?

tender notch
#

If there is one, only the lady by the crafting table inside white house. It's RNG though

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Also, the crafting table will tell you if there is a blueprint for something (will list it)

dire nacelle
#

What's some good stuff to do for solo gear grind? I just did some group summit legendary runs but I need better gear

molten spire
#

Find whatever area has targeted loot for what you're looking for, then do activities in it

#

if you already have a basic weapon damage build, Challenging Countdown with targeted loot set to whatever you're looking for

slow smelt
#

Just hit Level 1000!

#

This game is awesome.

#

Highlights include: When Iron Horse launched, meeting a bunch of different people, and making awesome builds!

fiery cloud
#

@dire nacelle run countdown

compact epoch
#

The game is good if it worked well.

topaz moon
#

How often do you get rewards when leveling up shepherding I'm level six and have got a rewards

inner elbow
#

There shouldn't be

rain tree
#

guys is there any maintainance today?

fiery nimbus
#

Im shd lvl 18 and was wondering if there was a difference between farming normal countdown or heroic countdown other than the enemies getting a health buff?

sleek drift
#

Amount of salt you produce

iron adder
#

and frequency of kicked out of group

quick wolf
#

I can vouch for the two of these things. ^

woven zenith
#

you guys are pure gold

sleek drift
#

I had my first group of low SHDs call extraction at a 1m 30 sec

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Wasn't fully enraged but I yelled at my monitor

#

About as annoying as bodyblocking me

woven zenith
#

pray my level 21 ass doesnt match with you some time soon

sleek drift
#

Dw I don't abuse lowbies

woven zenith
#

cap