td2-general-chat

[granite zephyr]

Or just getting stickybombed to oblivion

[gilded perch]

If you kill player, you are hack
If you use skill build, your are noob
If you camp cp, you also noob

[granite zephyr]

So I do all 3

My goals are beyond your understandings

[gilded perch]

Welcome to pvp world, brother

[granite zephyr]

I wonder when we will get the hack skills like the rogued have, doesn't make sense how we can hack stuff but not skills

[granite zephyr]

You got to see the chaos my squad descended upon the dz, 3 kill builds and 1 FI

[glad pilot]

based

[granite zephyr]

1 uses the Firestarter,fire sticky-me
1uses the Mortar
1 uses the shrapnel trap, sticky bomb

And all of us running the Faraday field
So no emp

Cancer 100

[smoky stag]

i actually do on this one.
i like using the most toxic methods available that elicit whining on the rare occasion i step in the dz

[granite zephyr]

But there is one line we don't cross

Multigrouping

[smoky stag]

deconstruct dropped loot without looking, no chance to retrieve even if they kill you lol

[gilded perch]

No no no

2-4 people also multi then you are noob

[brazen mountain]

Ultimate skill build counter

[gilded perch]

If you invite salty 1v1, they won't accept because you are noob and you still multi noob

[brazen mountain]

E.M.P

[granite zephyr]

You've never done an 8 man group have ya?

I did that in div 1 because the other Chinese clan group was doing it

Good days

[granite zephyr]

Faraday field

Counter E.M.P

[brazen mountain]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gilded perch]

Had, but it's unnecessary in div2

4v8 ez

[brazen mountain]

E.M.P has been destroyed

[gilded perch]

Technically what pvp player say emp, it's emp pulse

[brazen mountain]

Yea ik

[gilded perch]

Emp pulse are destroy any deployed skill if it in range

[granite zephyr]

You had to see the chaos 3 mortars raining he'll on you

[brazen mountain]

I just say E.M.P for some dramatic non dramatic effect

[gilded perch]

Emp sticker for player mostly

[granite zephyr]

2 asshats with oxi denying good entrance

[granite zephyr]

Jams to be exact

And that's why 2 mortar team-mates of mine use the rigger, destroy to get back instantly

[gilded perch]

Then just emp, or explosive resis build, or pestilence build

[granite zephyr]

Yeah but people don't do that

[brazen mountain]

They must be smart then

[granite zephyr]

Denying area, and mortaring anywhere that can possible be used

Smartasses

And then there's me

[brazen mountain]

Blocking off flanks or using cover? No not the division way. running around shooting without cover? Division way

[brazen mountain]

Denying area? More like blocking off entrance to not die immediately

[granite zephyr]

High damage and skill haste oxi, spray to make a large area of wall, blocking off flanks, and to make it worse ones using shock trap in the oxi

[brazen mountain]

Bruh that’s literally smart

[granite zephyr]

Yeah that is what ne does, just Bock it all off for the mortars to focus easily

[brazen mountain]

But the mortar is smart but overkill and just waaay too overkill

[granite zephyr]

And then there's me
FI or Eclise just sitting in the back

And for some reason the agents aren't smart enough to shoot the shock traps

[brazen mountain]

I mean them blocking off flanks is smart I don’t see why your mad about that and blocking off a good entrance is smart but mortar spam is just evil and not fair

But still it’s smart

Very clever

Good defense and offense

[granite zephyr]

They legit have 2 set ups for mortars, ones damageOnes called 'Spam' aka Rigger

[gilded perch]

Oxi build are not common at pvp, but it have advantage in some situation
For example west bridge, south/east saft house

[granite zephyr]

Alleyway

[brazen mountain]

If the mortars one shot you then I’d be mad and if that spam mortars I’d be upset but then again it’s literally a mortar turret

Like what do you expect from them with mortar turrets

[granite zephyr]

And to make it worse their builds have the overcharge perk

[neat sedge]

energize?

[brazen mountain]

Good skill builds

[granite zephyr]

And for the use the secondary with the Defender drone,

[brazen mountain]

I would be upset but I wouldn’t be complaining like it’s not fair

I mean they are actually thinking instead of running around like headless chickens (like every other build)

[granite zephyr]

They even planned everything. All must use Faraday field or they are fugged

[brazen mountain]

Yea they planned and it worked well

[granite zephyr]

No jam, FI use ground control 120% ,stick close to heal to transfer heal to others

[brazen mountain]

Basically the ultimate defense with good offense

[granite zephyr]

Too well organized

And the thing is they even planned for a multigroup

[brazen mountain]

That’s good

[gilded perch]

Noob always complaining mortar noob, in fact a good mortar user need to be skillful

[plush totem]

Shii y’all when the heartland is coming out

[neat sedge]

no one knows

[granite zephyr]

I'm not even gonna play heartland I think

I'm gonna play resurgence when it comes out and that is it

[reef reef]

Do not ping ubisoft staff. Please reread the rules.

[neat sedge]

I feel like Heartland will be fun

if you're a PvP player

[lapis junco]

It is

Whence u get the hang of it

[neat sedge]

the last two days I have had to get the hang of playing Div 2 again, kept hitting C to go into cover

[rare vapor]

Lol you toke my icon

[inner elbow]

I always say to new players that use artillery turret they have a bright future ahead

[strong ledge]

I doesn't cease to amuse me that the rumor mill keeps perpetuating that HL is exclusively a PvP game

[rare vapor]

it's not lol

[neat sedge]

I mean it kind of is?

[strong ledge]

Cue someone saying that PvE is the tutorial

[rare vapor]

there's like more pve content than pvp

you need to farm pve content to pvp

[neat sedge]

yeah but if you just farm PvE exclusively the game will get boring fast

[strong ledge]

Cue someone saying that PvP is what keeps games alive

[rare vapor]

however if you die in pvp, you lose everything, including your loadout, you would need to refarm all of that, and by that you would need to craft pvp gear, and if you missing materials, you gota do pve to get more. you can essentially go in pvp with inferior gear and hope you can extract without death, but it's a gamble.

[strong ledge]

I just want to see it release on open beta or proper official footage so that people can stop guessing and chalking it off as a divison battle royale

That designation is so annoying

[rare vapor]

pvp is basically all high end gear, maybe a purple. it's all about the talents. and only purple and high end gear has talents. crafting high end loadout would cost half a day worth of pve farming materials. unless you farmed pve for a months straight just to craft for pvp

[low lily]

A good pvp keeps games alive really long tho, example dz fights are different all the time, but doing exactly same thing in pve everytime gets old fast

[strong ledge]

Lol called it

[rare vapor]

however it isn't Div1 DZ pvp, the ttk is CoD

you die within 5 seconds of a fight

[strong ledge]

CoD TTK is higher than Division these days though

[rare vapor]

too bad HL isn't exactly Division PVP by any means

there's like a long list of pvp feedback they got, we'll see if they make some changes.

[low lily]

Maybe red storm have grown in that sense

[strong ledge]

TTK should be high in an RPG so you get to use your talents, or it just ends up being a burst fest

Like Division 2

[low lily]

So bullet sponges

[strong ledge]

Call it as you please

It's an RPG, not CoD Hardcore mode

[broken brook]

is CP4 still the best way to farm weapon mod blueprints?

[fervent jacinth]

Yes

I jst want more PvP modes

Jst update dz for more global events
And by events i mean stuff like dz drops
Instead new shit would be certain landmarks dropping more loot but at a greater difficulty

[strong ledge]

Dz is just lazily designed. There should be more activities and bonus stuff you can buy with credits while in there that work only in DZ. Like a vendor that sells priority extractions or an extraction balloon that takes two items only, or an improved one use knife that lets you cut a rope faster

[low lily]

Don't think they will do dz updates, we already saw game being more casual focused at this point

[fervent jacinth]

Wait

You're

What the f
Haven't seen you in months

Ragnar

[low lily]

Well i see myself every morning in the mirror so, that sounds a lot like your problem

[fervent jacinth]

No like

On ps

[low lily]

But yeah i just want that div1 first gameplay experience, but i don't think even div3 would be that hardcore, that dz would be such priority like it was meant before

I could've deleted you, i deleted like 300 peeps, cleaned my friends list

[fervent jacinth]

[neat sedge]

I dunno this could be me over thinking, but Heartland seems like an amazing move from Ubisoft

[fervent jacinth]

Anyways for dz i believe we need more ways to go rogue

[fervent jacinth]

Heartland
Is
Risky

V v risky

[neat sedge]

Remove the PvP community from Div2, and let Div2 focus on story and PvE

[fervent jacinth]

AYO NO

Believe it or not , no matter how broken and shit the PvP is in div 2
It's actually surprisingly fun

[neat sedge]

oh I'm not arguing, I have Conflict level 100

I love Div2 PvP

[true badge]

I mean Heartland is gonna have PvE modes too I belive l

[neat sedge]

yes and no

[true badge]

Didn’t one of the leaks specify another new PvEvP style mode?

[fervent jacinth]

Yea

Atleast iirc

Oh for the love of god jst make an invaded dz where every NPC is a hunter

[true badge]

I am interested in the fact it was described as a “multiplayer survival” which sounds very much like something akin to DayZ or Rust

[neat sedge]

I can't comment because I'm under NDA

[true badge]

Oh yeah I forgot

Beta

[fervent jacinth]

Take this as a decline

[true badge]

Hope you guys are having fun

[neat sedge]

technically I feel it was more of a Charlie then a Beta

[fervent jacinth]

Yes pls send vids

[true badge]

I just like speculating about things I actually really don’t care that much, I’m just happy a new game is dropping with new ideas and stuff to do

[fervent jacinth]

Does anyone think the dz (rogue part) deserves another overhaul

I mean the current one seems perfect

But it's getting old

[neat sedge]

I feel like a faction system would work well for the DZ

enter into the DZ flagged as SHD or Rogue and keep that forever

SHD's can't attack eachother, but can attack rogues, Rogues can hit anyone

[true badge]

Dedicated PvP dark zone sounds interesting, like a Battlefield style system

I think that’s what the original idea of the DZ was, big battlefield with NPCs and PvP

[rare vapor]

until you can not find enough players to fill any one server

idea was scratched

smaller scale bouts is what "worked"

[strong ledge]

Multiplayer Survival doesn't sound necessarily like DayZ. They could opt to not have any PvP or require you to queue into a PvP server or whatever

It could be just that, Survival but as a PvE mode and then one with PvP. So the appeal would be there for everyone

[fiery cloud]

Can't wait for Heartland

[rare vapor]

same

[strong ledge]

Right now, though, considering HL doesn't have a release date. I'm extremely excited over the possibilities of Descent

[rare vapor]

Descent sounds like fun

[granite zephyr]

Descent?

[strong ledge]

They have to nail that and it would be hands down the best thing to ever happen to Division in game modes

[rare vapor]

New game mode in Division 2 coming up

[granite zephyr]

Cool

[strong ledge]

It's a Roguelite Dungeon Crawler and that's all we know

[granite zephyr]

I wonder if any tanks considered using a deflwctor drone + Bulwark shield

[granite zephyr]

That sounds intresting

[strong ledge]

Yannick did mention that building would probably be different than the rest of the game, so most think it's going to have talents everywhere

[rare vapor]

Hope is like Deadcells

[granite zephyr]

Just got the Scorpio, damn it's powerful

Inflicted Scorpio effects plus 500k Burn damage on an AI with perpetuation, team-mate instantly lazered enemy, all 5 ish effects get transfered to everypne

[strong ledge]

It is. Depends on who you ask they'd tell you it's TOO powerful

[granite zephyr]

Also 4 man squad armed with Scorpio, stun lock bosses

Perpetuation is my best friend

[rare vapor]

already nerfed twise, yet still BiS

[granite zephyr]

I just love the fact I have perpetuation on an M4,X-45 Tactical, so I can just rack up perpetuation on any guns

And sometimes use Everlasting Gaze to just use the 16 seconds, still better than 20

[mystic zealot]

curious though, is it just me, or is that, the outcast MG guy feels to have more punch than the True sons MG guy?

[rocky fulcrum]

Is there any way to get the chill out mask currently? if not, is there another time it will come back?

[fervent jacinth]

Isn't that what dz is tho as of this moment

Those on manhunt status stay rogue forever

Others can go rogue and can reach manhunt as well

[rare vapor]

it suppose to be in the loot pool, try Countdown mask targeted. If not it was a christmas event drop last year, so it'll be available soon this christmas if nothing changes

[neat sedge]

I meant more a system where you had to decide before going in weather you are rogue or SHD, instead of the current system where you go in SHD and can go rogue at anytime

[rocky fulcrum]

ok thank you for the info

[fervent jacinth]

That would be difficult to work tho
Considering there would need to be seperate checkpoints

[rare vapor]

Once you go rogue, you can never go back

[fervent jacinth]

Otherwise it would be suicide for rogues in non invaded

[granite zephyr]

What does it do?

[fervent jacinth]

And suicide for non rogues in invaded

[fervent jacinth]

Do you mean Chill out??

[granite zephyr]

Yeah

[rocky fulcrum]

The chill out mask? gives u an extra slot for a mod

[fervent jacinth]

And the gila guard bonus

[rocky fulcrum]

so 2 mods on mask for 1 less atribute

[fervent jacinth]

You can basically have 3 chd mods in one mask

[granite zephyr]

So basically what ever you want?

[rocky fulcrum]

ye

[fervent jacinth]

Yes

[granite zephyr]

I neeeeeeeeeeeed

[fervent jacinth]

I have it

[granite zephyr]

I'm going to boost up my status affect duration by another 12%

[fervent jacinth]

0.2 btc and it's yours

[granite zephyr]

Status is power

[fervent jacinth]

Oh
Skill build user

[granite zephyr]

I got about 70% ish

[fervent jacinth]

😾😾

[granite zephyr]

But I'm trying to reach 100%+ status

[fervent jacinth]

DOWN WITH THE SKILL BUILDS

[rocky fulcrum]

imaging having 3 maxed skill haste/duration mods

[rare vapor]

chill

[granite zephyr]

Infinite power

[fervent jacinth]

Out

[rocky fulcrum]

2+1 native atribute of haste/duration

[fervent jacinth]

Yk i don't mind skill builds as long as a stinger or a fire or shrapnel doesn't one shot a full blue core user in dz for no reason

[granite zephyr]

If I ever get that, I think my status effect damage might reach 550k per tick with 14 second duration

[fervent jacinth]

Yep there we go

That's the uh
New
Bichy build

Might be fun tho idk never used a skill build

[granite zephyr]

I am always making new breakthroughs for my build

I got 500k per tick atm

If I get the vile, I can get 570k per tick

[fervent jacinth]

4 ticks and a full grp of blue cores is ded

Oh thank god you're on xbox

[granite zephyr]

I also have 1 god rolled Golan on status effect and skill haste

[low lily]

570k tick on pvp with skill build?

[fervent jacinth]

Maybe they didn't consider PvP deeps

And jst looking at normal stats which shows for everything
A smol mistake i used to make end of last year

[granite zephyr]

For pvp it's halfed

So 235k per tick

[low lily]

That's kinda meh yea

[fervent jacinth]

True

I hate skill build users

They get upto my nerves

[granite zephyr]

Yeah so I'm trying to just make it 16 seconds for pvp

[rare vapor]

Go Red or go bed.

[granite zephyr]

Just piss people off with long burn, no aim

[low lily]

Yeah you play a PGC or you a female pretty much

[granite zephyr]

PGC?

Anyways, let me introduce you to
Tier 6 Burn+ Shock trap with creeping death

With eclipse

[rare vapor]

let me introduce you to 30% rpm Umbra ACR head beaming

[granite zephyr]

Let me introduce you to rigger mortar spam

[low lily]

Or just learn to play and don't use skill builds

[granite zephyr]

Skill builds are a solution to everything and itself

[low lily]

🫂

[true badge]

Skill builds are a question and the answer is Yes

[granite zephyr]

You run out of ammo eventually

But we won't run out of skill

[rare vapor]

but you have cooldown period, no matter how small the frame. we have no cooldown we pewpewpew until dead

[fervent jacinth]

Y'all skill build users still children

[granite zephyr]

Hehe, you see

We all use hives

And we all use BTSU

[rare vapor]

what hives? it has a radius, i can just feel it

[granite zephyr]

Stinger

Stinger

[mystic zealot]

can't i just be a nice guy medic and just heal anyone i see?

[granite zephyr]

Stinger
Technician

[rare vapor]

it has gigantic red radius, i have infnite range and direction with my bullets

[low lily]

Only skill you should be afraid is sticky, everything's else is easy to counter

[granite zephyr]

Heal someone and you get stabbed in the back

[granite zephyr]

That's the thing
Hive+Sticky

Ultimate menace

[mystic zealot]

oh...

[rare vapor]

hive only work when camping spawn against newbs. else not so much

[true badge]

Nice bullets too bad I’m behind cover 3 miles away

[rare vapor]

i mean you cant even throw that stuff more than 6 feet

[granite zephyr]

You sure about that?

I'mma see if I can do that grenade glitch trick with the hive

Quick swap and throw the hive as far as a grenade

[rare vapor]

"glitch" ima stop you right there

[low lily]

Skill build users**

[mystic zealot]

oh ho ho....my friend, have you, seen the chinese server?

[rare vapor]

china has a server? wut

[granite zephyr]

Stop what?

Tell the devs to patch it

Oh wait, they can't!

[rare vapor]

nuh uh

[mystic zealot]

i mean we sorta have a mini dedicated servers due to just how many players there is at the chinese/asian side

[rare vapor]

orly

[mystic zealot]

instead of a "Nice bullets too bad I’m behind cover 10m away", more often than not is will be a case of "nice walls, too bad my bullets will hit you across the whole map across the walls"

and hence why, i'll just be a nice guy medic and just heal everyone

[rare vapor]

[potent lava]

In the DZ, I was just now not able to use my pulse, but not in the way like an NPC or a player was blocking it, the ability is just grayed out, there's no npcs or players around me

[granite zephyr]

I still remember div 1
Korean gang, Chinese gang and Japanese players fighting each other in US servers,

And the Americans are just there like
Wtf

[mystic zealot]

well, we aisans be like that...

oh and don't forget the swears

[strong ledge]

I don't generally play skill builds in PvP but if I do and receive a message crying about it, I will use them on the person next time I see them

You cry about a build, you lose on emotional bias alone and let on you can't fight it

[rare vapor]

VOIP in DZ was the best

makes amazing YT vids

[granite zephyr]

More slurs and swears the more content

[strong ledge]

nO sKilL bUiLd messages are the best

[potent lava]

I started making YouTube vids, I'm new but I play solo and been fucking people up. Search "DukesUp1"

[strong ledge]

"You only killed me because your Mortar destroyed me before I could aim at you with Flatline and Spotter" well yes, sir. That was the idea

[mystic zealot]

curious though,how, do you aim your mortars to be so accurate?

[granite zephyr]

Guys imagine

[strong ledge]

This game is so full of crybabies that the fact alone that they will msg you about a kill is reason enough to keep playing

[granite zephyr]

What if thr deflector could deflect the spotter laser and you are effected by your own spotter

[strong ledge]

Practice, good abstraction and reading your movement

[mystic zealot]

i mean, for both PVP and PVE if say, i put the turret at my end, launch a shell, the enemies would just leap away and that's that

or, it just nailed the roof

[rare vapor]

or ask the chinese, they seem to aim on point every time. bound to be a trick

[strong ledge]

Try to place your mortar closer than the BOO

[mystic zealot]

we don't aim, we got "stuff"

[rare vapor]

[strong ledge]

A lot of players are so scared of the AI that they will be too far. More distance means more time for the shell and the NPC to move

In PvP it's just practice and reading movement

[mystic zealot]

so...just plup the turret at the feet of the enemy and just blow it at point blank ?

[strong ledge]

Not at point blank, just not next to Manny

[rare vapor]

how long are you going to type Porphy?

[inner elbow]

Many things to consider
Reading and predicting where enemies will move. Reds will just stand still and panic when mortar is about to hit them. Purples will attempt to run. Yellows and named enemies will roll sideways. If they roll to the left, there's a high chance they will roll again to the right.
Knowing where and what surface the mortars can impact on, and where to place your turret. Always pick an elevated position. That way you can see more surface area and turret has more trajectory options.

[mystic zealot]

ah, noted with thanks

[gilded perch]

The strongest skill in pvp is SHD turret at checkpoint

[gusty dove]

facts

[inner elbow]

checkpoint?

[gusty dove]

main entrance afaik

[inner elbow]

oh, right, camping

[wooden dome]

Hey question: I’m trying to farm level 3 control points but when I reset them from global settings it swaps back to level 1… why

[gusty dove]

try switching your world to heroic and back to challenging, see if that works?

[wooden dome]

Yeah I had it on normal so I can just run past groups. Should I just keep it at challenging for control point farming?

I just want a 7.62 sturdy extended mag, but don’t wanna do all the activities every time to level up the CP

[desert crystal]

if you want level 3 yes

[gusty dove]

^

[wooden dome]

Oh so since my world level was normal that’s why it set it back to level 1 CP

[gusty dove]

ye

[wooden dome]

Cheers

[desert crystal]

@wooden dome control points go of would level inless your doing activities in that area

[brisk bridge]

That post needs a serious spell check. 😛

[gusty dove]

lol

[wind mason]

If I try out TD2 on Ubisoft+ and buy it if I like it, will my progress remain?

[hybrid ore]

Yep.

Just make sure you don't use the "boost", and play from Lvl 0. Much better experience that way.

[rain lark]

ffs man this game is starting to piss me off

does playing on ultra cause the game to crash more?

[low lily]

🫂

[gusty dove]

i play on ultra without crashing a lot

[low lily]

How much is a lot?

[brisk bridge]

There have been days when I have not crashed once. DAYS!

Also days when I have crashed 5-10 times a day.

[gusty dove]

like, only once per week and other times I just don't crash for a whole week

[vast knot]

The RNG gods do not always favour us

[brisk bridge]

LOL, just crashed as I was answering a backup request.

[proven briar]

there is some french here ?

[bitter wraith]

rip RNG. Been farming striker and no decent rolls yet

[brisk bridge]

Doing Countdown?

[bitter wraith]

No because its bugged as usual

Just as everything ubisoft is

Note to self: dont bother with open world since 98% of the drops are trash

[fervent jacinth]

Pat boxtron
Pray to lootcifer
And
RNGesus

[knotty quail]

My god, had to waste my time now with some kids on Reddit saying you can't play Heroic without "a few hundred SHD levels"

People can't comprehend build and smart playstyle >>>>>>>> SHD level

[gusty dove]

shd means jack sht, if your build is decent and know how to play heroic you can easily do it

[fervent jacinth]

Ya but they don't kno that

[knotty quail]

Exactly that

[fervent jacinth]

Fair

[knotty quail]

One dude walked in with "10% CHC 10% WD 20% CHD" would like a word

Most annoying argument ever

[rich shadow]

I always check low SHD lvl players on countdown to make sure there build is ok, and most of the time it is. You'd be surprised to see some high lvl shd players with not so good builds!

[knotty quail]

Braindead floor 10 addicts

Kids thinking their SHD level is gonna compensate for no game knowledge and think any build will work

At least newer players will ask for advice and put together something that actually works

[rich shadow]

One high-level SHD guy was running 2xGolan, 2x Belstone, etc, but no benefits for the group, just a tank that does no damage!

[knotty quail]

Typical

[fervent berry]

At the end of the day, SHD levels are simply numbers that don't always show player skills or game knowledge. I always take those with a pinch of salt or whatever the salty saying is.

I always respect low-level players who are willing to learn the mechanics and builds, etc. They are the true legends.

[low lily]

Shd doesn't mean anything yeah, but if i have to choose to play with people who are 1k+ or people who are below 200 i will still choose who are over 1k

[fervent jacinth]

Can never be too careful \o/

[fair lake]

Nothing is worse than seeing 10000+ agent with "youtube-like" builds, if you understand what I mean

[tender wave]

players of any given shd level will always be a mix of intelligent, competent ones with good builds and those who are less...intellectually blessed. High shd at least indicates more practical experience in the game (on average, of course it's been heavily skewed by f10 farming). That said, if we want newer players to keep playing we have to support them and show some faith

[whole thistle]

Quick Q, what's the easiest way to apply bleed to the bloodhound in fed bunker? need it for my stage 3 firewall research

[warm minnow]

stinger

[tender wave]

stinger hive (after breaking his armor) or ridgeways pride chest

[whole thistle]

alright ty

and is that breaking just 1 plate of armor i assume

[tender wave]

I think so - at least one, anyway

[whole thistle]

okie doke

firewall is the last field research i need to complete and then i can just casually level up and max out all the specializations

[tender wave]

as always with research quests, double-check if there are mission difficulty requirements mentioned at the white house, they don't always list them in the top right objective-tracker box

[fervent jacinth]

HEY I COULD SLAP IN DZ PVP AT LEVEL 300
come level 784 today and I'm a goddamn monster

So
Bottom line
Jst check the low levels once to see if they're worth keeping

[whole thistle]

perfect ty

[coral gyro]

Close the game .. the last manhunt bounty quest .. I hunt everyone at the entrance .. and the street people too .. because it has to be right there. after that it freezes .. and when reloading the track is not bounty .. my enemy is 2m in front of me .. so damn good .. when starting again they are 3x more aggressive than before .. again ..
As soon as it freezes, put it back there. don't go to normal, don't mess with the player.. freezes still can't be fixed.

[distant oak]

Floor 10 farmers high SHD levels can't play because they never left floor 10. At least that problem is solved.

[knotty quail]

Facts

[low lily]

Besides f10 farmers i personally think shd matters a little still, in that sense that person has more hours in. If we are honest division is hard for new people, it takes alot time to actually understand everything and if you don't use reddit/YouTube/discord to learn, then learning yourself takes time

[whole thistle]

yeah until i started watching youtube videos on builds and joining here to learn the best ways to farm stuff i'd be entirely clueless on how 95% of this game works post-wony

[low lily]

Exactly it takes time

[gusty dove]

youtube builds are 90% of the time clickbait

[oak prawn]

I agree

[low lily]

Majority of them will still guide you in right direction, or those talent videos etc so you will actually learn what are good etc

[whole thistle]

nothingbutskillz builds have been really good for me

[brisk bridge]

I concur.

[whole thistle]

and he presents them in a really good way imo

[low lily]

Okey he has really clickbait videos

😅

[gusty dove]

🤣

[brisk bridge]

Until I joined the Discord here and read the spreadsheet, I was just half-assing my way through.

[low lily]

Marco had good videos back in the day

[oak prawn]

Thats how the YouTube algorithm works

Catchy title pretty thumbnail= views and money

[amber vigil]

Is the 2xp during the manhunt just for manhunt activities?

[low lily]

I really dislike the second breed YouTubers we got with div2 😅😅 like with div1 there was pretty decent ones but now...........

15 levels

[oak prawn]

See when I was playing on Xbox since D2 came out I had ti learn and when I sold my Xbox and swapped to pc during s9 I knew the system and how everything worked

[distant oak]

I'm more of a solo player. The vids of Kevin Genesis helped me a lot.

[oak prawn]

Now back to anime

[amber vigil]

Can you elaborate a bit more, pls? 2XP for 15 SHD levels?

[whole thistle]

Haven't seen him sadly

[distant oak]

Indeed. He posted a message that he could not make any more videos due to personal problems. He had to sort them out first. Sad to see him go.

[whole thistle]

Aw, sad

[warped bramble]

You get 2 times the xp for your first 15 levels, which means you complete them with what would normally only give you 7.5 levels

[amber vigil]

Who?

[distant oak]

Kevin Genesis.

YouTuber which creates mainly solo builds. And some pretty decent ones if I may add.

[amber vigil]

Ty but for any activity, even if it's not a Manhunt one? Also we are talking about SHD levels, not season levels, right? Sorry if these questions are too dumb 😬

[warped bramble]

yes, any XP you get

doing missions, shooting goons or force feeding components to a CP, pick your poison

[amber vigil]

ty

[inner elbow]

Mfw hardcore agents use up the xp boost by doing 4 resource convoys

[pliant sentinel]

bee not in the lootpool?

[gusty dove]

nope

also missing blueprint afaik

[strong ledge]

man, I can't wait to try out Doctor Home

Imagine if they had kept Emergency Requisition Talent in the game

[whole thistle]

2nd specialization finished, onto technician

[wraith wren]

what if didnt get blue screen lmg last season? how do i get it this season if i still could?

[granite zephyr]

Do heroic checkpoints for 4 hours

Level up 40 times

[strong ledge]

yes you can get it

[quick skiff]

pumped for this apparel events this season they look good

[oak prawn]

first drops next tuesday

[quick skiff]

ye

also interested to see what doctor home does but thats like what a month out or something

[oak prawn]

its a water gun thats all

[rain lark]

Need more countdown maps

The game mode is fun

[brisk bridge]

I wish they'd change the "Armor on Kill" mod to "2% Armor on kill" at max.

[brisk bridge]

Great idea in principle because more content variety always helps. The problem with that is it might lead to further splintering of players unless the map is chosen at random. For instance, now you have people split between Challenging and Heroic. If you add more maps, you will those Map 1/map 2/map 3 + Challenging/Heroic.

[strong ledge]

Not if the map is chosen at random instead of queuing manually

less than ideal but still

[brisk bridge]

Yes, I did say unless that map is chosen at random. 🙂

[strong ledge]

still, it's not like there's 10 maps

if we had 3 and could queue manually, fragmentation would still not be a problem

[pliant sentinel]

@oak prawnthanks for borrowing ur luck

maxed GR9 with unhinged

stolen from the hands of the outcast

[oak prawn]

😑pinged me

[pliant sentinel]

M'BAD

[oak prawn]

It's g

[zinc shadow]

discord users when people use basic discord functions:

[whole thistle]

xbox users:

[unkempt moat]

Is there any way to get Ironworks Base materials (and the like) for Regulus project other than raid?

[oak prawn]

Nope

[unkempt moat]

well that is

bullshit

im at 31/40

[pliant sentinel]

maybe all red build is the key

[zinc shadow]

I have a PC 🙂

[oak prawn]

Hahaha all red go brrrr

[pliant sentinel]

huehue

[whole thistle]

Role: Xbox

[reef reef]

role system is based on what you primarily play. if you play on pc mainly and sometimes play on xbox, you'd have pc and xbox tags, if you just play on xbox theres no reason to have the pc role

just because someone has just one role doesnt mean they dont have the others

[whole thistle]

ik it was just a joke

[oak prawn]

😅

[unkempt moat]

Why buy 500 dollar videogame box that to this day cant do 60 FPS when you can rig 6k PC

[whole thistle]

FR

[oak prawn]

Meh consoles have thier advantages gears of War and uncharted are ps and Xbox exclusively and I love those games

Well game pass on pc but

Not everyone has 6 k laying around

[reef reef]

theres really no reason for all the pc/xbox/playstation hate, from any side. everyone has their reasons for picking what they did

[oak prawn]

Some people can't afford a pc nothing wrong with that

[unkempt moat]

theres literally only two reasons, Bloodborne and money

[zinc shadow]

I’ve had many more technical issues on PC than on console
as someone who has played on both there is absolutely zero case for elitism

[outer imp]

Does anyone still have crashes? supposedly they had solved this problem

[gusty dove]

played earlier, didnt crash

[brisk bridge]

Yup, often. Only the frequency has reduced a bit.

[rain lark]

The puppy in haven is so cute 😭

[oak prawn]

ik if anything happens to it we riot

[fiery cloud]

Hey Pain, Aspect,

[hybrid ore]

Hey Saph

[fervent jacinth]

Neve
Use
His
Builds

[fiery cloud]

lol i figured you moved it🤣

[hybrid ore]

Yeah, I gotta follow the rules too :p

div2 youtubers are mostly fine, you've just got to double check every single aspect of the build, to the point where it's quicker to just use the spreadsheet.

[strong ledge]

division 2 build videos are pumped dailty despite there being not enough stuff to produce, so you can count on a large number of them being badly put together but they look awesome because they're played solo

it's always best to ask other players for help rather than copying off ofsome rando

[tropic compass]

Hopefully league missions are good tomorrow

[brisk bridge]

Greetings

[oak prawn]

2 hours to complete insert mission here

Lmao

[tropic compass]

10 mins to complete both Coney Island missions

[oak prawn]

Gimme Spotify and redbull and 8 mins

Oh and food

[tropic compass]

But I'll add in a crash here and there

[oak prawn]

Alr 9 mins

[visual viper]

Wth

[reef reef]

Please use the correct channels to look for groups.

[fervent jacinth]

[brisk bridge]

Another clickbait YT'er?

[lofty slate]

if completing side quest is required to proceed with main quest... then it's not a side... ubi wtf

[echo cloud]

how do you all feel about a tank oriented striker build for solo pve

not tanky enough, not enough dps, what? i havent really tested

[fervent jacinth]

Yes

[fervent jacinth]

I have one

[echo cloud]

and?

[fervent jacinth]

Its
Fun

It uses eagle bearer

[echo cloud]

is it effective?

[fervent jacinth]

The core method is to have all pieces having blue cores
You have to use the striker chest and bag

You have to use contractors or grupo gloves
And fox's kneepads

All having blue cores

Maximise as much chd as you can
Use either firewall for the shield for more protection
Or
Use gunner for banshee

[hybrid ore]

Well that answers the "is it effective" question.

[fervent jacinth]

Yes

Yes it is effective
And it's
Fun
And
Fast

The main technique is to first use rock n roll either by banshee pulsing the enemies or by using striker shield

Focus on tanks for the stacks
The blue cores will protect you
Use defen for more protection

When on full stacks
Pull out
Yee ol reliable eagle bearer

You'll crit 700k to 800k
Least that's what I crit

Don't ask for my build tho I'm on vaca rn so i don't have my ps

[echo cloud]

im not really sold on the eagle bearer to be honest

[fervent jacinth]

Oh trust me it works

[echo cloud]

on my dps version of this, with carbine 7 with flatline, im doing about 1.7m dmg per at full stacks

[fervent jacinth]

If you're not sold
Use chameleon

[echo cloud]

which is ludicrous of course

[fervent jacinth]

If you're feeling wild
Use kingbreaker

[echo cloud]

dont like that one, it dances too much

[fervent jacinth]

Oh and an alternative to the bag would be memento
But then you have to swap out the gloves for striker gloves

[hybrid ore]

That is mostly because it's a sub-par version of the base gun, with very niche cases in which it's better than one.

[echo cloud]

yeah

[fervent jacinth]

Eagle bearer jst needs to be used properly

Sure it has more recoil compared to other guns

[echo cloud]

i dont like eagle at all

[sonic isle]

I'd like an "Uncle Sam Special" gun

[fervent jacinth]

But
In the right hands
It's a goddayum monster

[hybrid ore]

a regular p416 with a good Talent is better than EB in 9/10 cases, this is not the 1/10.

EB used to be a monster, but that was a long time ago now.

[fervent jacinth]

😾😾

[echo cloud]

the headshot talent on eagle is really gimmicky

[fervent jacinth]

Y'all hating on eb for no reason 😿😿

[sonic isle]

a long tiiiiiiiiiiiiime ago as time is flying

[hybrid ore]

September 2019, IIRC.
That was the day it died.

[sonic isle]

R.I.P

[fervent jacinth]

Well one alternative is ofc
Don't laugh
The chameleon

Chameleon on striker
Is
A
Monster

[muted rapids]

EB is a PVP weapon and it’s still not that great

[hybrid ore]

not even just the Exotic version either, there was a balance around that time of AR's.
I'm going off long-past memories here of course.

[sonic isle]

"dead memories"

(either known as "long term storage")

[fervent jacinth]

Y'all hating on eb 🥺🥺

[hybrid ore]

that's the lockdown in a nutshell right there.
remind me, does swapping out from the Chameleon remove the buffs?

[fervent jacinth]

Yes it does

[sonic isle]

it was a long time ago

[hybrid ore]

Well that kinda disqualifies it from Striker, since you need something to build up stacks.
you could get lucky and keep them active, but honestly? Just use a high-end AR.

[muted rapids]

Wasn’t Chameleon even more awful than it was before it got some kind of rework?

[hybrid ore]

An Exotic is rarely a perfect choice in div2, especially when it comes to guns.
Unless they're filling a niche in a build, just use a gold one.

[muted rapids]

Fast hands > every single exotic talent

Unless it’s the Nemesis

[hybrid ore]

I mean, it's a good Talent for sure, but I wouldn't say it's a catch-all "best".

[brisk bridge]

Scorpio is an exception. 😄

[muted rapids]

correct me if I’m wrong but does the introduction of Picaro’s Holster and Brazos make Capacitor hybrid builds stronger?

[muted rapids]

True, that’s like a best in slot for every build lol

[echo cloud]

i honestly think chameleon and eagle bearer are both poor options for weapon in 99 out of 100 builds

like, they are genuinely bad

chameleon in particular

[toxic flume]

EB is wife

[oak prawn]

EB is the middle child

[toxic flume]

Your middle child, but my wife

[echo cloud]

the one build i would say eagle bearer is good is for a headshot focused pvp build in the hands of a skilled player

otherwise, nope

[toxic flume]

All red DPS crit headshot build hits hard like a truck

[echo cloud]

if you can hit your shots

and personally i would roll for weapon handling over crit chance on a build like that

and just opt for pure headshot damage

[toxic flume]

Easy money, I’m not perfect but I can shoot well enough

[echo cloud]

well thats the problem, especially if u go in conflict.. the TTK is like 0.2 seconds.

[toxic flume]

Can hit up to 2 million headshot crit with buffs or more

[echo cloud]

people are really competetive there, zero room for mistakes

[toxic flume]

Basically

[echo cloud]

and pvp feels extremely unbalanced atm

[toxic flume]

I probably have 75% of my playtime using EB so far , maybe 🤔 more…

[echo cloud]

i feel like it doesnt matter what kind of defensive setup you run, 6 blue core, whatever, if someone gets the drop on u, u are dead in less than a second. i see a lot of ppl in there running 4-6 red cores and they are farming. because the TTK is so low no matter how tanky u run, its not enough

and i have experienced it myself, in 6 blue cores and getting instantly dropped like a sack of potatoes

its not fun.

[toxic flume]

Expertise makes builds more unfair, can’t wait for the expertise PvP balance

[echo cloud]

i was running a tank test setup, i had 100% bleed resist, 100% pulse resist, 2 million armor, and i still got pretty much oneshot, so like whats the point then

may as well play glass cannon 6 red

literally no difference

[brisk bridge]

If you use Memento and re-roll the Picaro's holster to skill tier + use technician spec, you can get two other red cores in, which makes 3 red cores with Memento. So 3 pc Empress, Memento, 2 pc Brazos. Use Glass Cannon on the chest. Can do some decent damage.

[toxic flume]

6 blue core can survive couple more bullets compare to 6 red especially a 6 red GC build

[echo cloud]

huh? 3 pc empress? ew skill build

[muted rapids]

hm

I have a build that has 3 armour 3 red 3 skilltier that uses capacitor as main dps

which essentially is like 5 red cores

[echo cloud]

yes, a couple sounds exactly right, in most scenario doesnt make a difference

[toxic flume]

Some no, but all depends on the 2 players as well

I still remember the old capacitor weapon dps build and it still slaps hard especially using the named holster

[echo cloud]

like if u are in the darkzone and someone with 6 red cores catches u attaching a bag to the rope, even if u have 6 blue cores, that player can easily kill you while you are stunned in animation

which to me is the perfect example that TTK is way too low in pvp in div 2

[muted rapids]

while we are on the topic of DZ

[echo cloud]

maybe you dont agree with me but i think the defensive bonuses are too ineffective, actually for pve too

[muted rapids]

Saturday I was playing with my friend to farm wyvern on DZ east

[toxic flume]

Is always low in div2 with the build making. Year one was longer ttk then year 2 for sure

[muted rapids]

Got nothing, but one event showed up

Basically friend went rogue on some 6 red players

we went on tier 2 rogue, then some guy came along with a foam headshot build

[echo cloud]

with my umbra carbine pvp build, my headshot crits are about 250k dmg in pvp if i recall correctly.. do the math on that.. thats almost 1 bullet = 2 blue cores.. its insane

[muted rapids]

My friend died, but me with my build I mentioned earlier (which had defender drone expertise 14 lol) somehow managed to outDPS his headshots

obviously had unbreakable

but that was actually so funny for me

[toxic flume]

As soon I hear or see foam, I see a non skilled player because he needs assistance for his kills

[brisk bridge]

How do you fit 9 cores into a build?

[muted rapids]

Memento
Picaro’s Holster along with another Brazos

[toxic flume]

Anything is possible in div 2 nowadays tbh

[echo cloud]

2 piece picaro/brazos on engineer is +4 skill tiers

and u get 2 free ones from memento too

[muted rapids]

I put armour core on my picaro and fox prayer and the other Brazos piece

then red unbreakable fenris and ceska glove

[echo cloud]

u can make a decent hybrid build that way but

[muted rapids]

which is actually 4 armour cores now that I think about it

[echo cloud]

u wont have the burst that a pure build will and burst is definitely king in pvp

[brisk bridge]

I'm a little confused whether we're talking PvE or PvP, because the default assumption is PvE and SgtDankMemes didn't mention PvP.

[muted rapids]

It relies on memento stacks so I can see why it’s not really good

[muted rapids]

Was talking about pvp

[echo cloud]

we've been talking about pvp for t he last 30 minute i guess =P

[brisk bridge]

Oh, then never mind, ignore anything I said. I don't step into that world.

But please post a screenshot of this build in #td2-build-advice. I'm curious.

[echo cloud]

i kinda wish dread edict wasnt bollocks

you need 2 chest talents to make it work

focus and braced

[golden summit]

RE: darkzone pvp

If someone decides to flip rogue on you with prestacked strikers, umbra, and/or Busy Little Bee, you're fucking dead

don't get emotionally attached to the results of a gank when these are the primary factors

6 blues+unbreakable builds will instantly melt

the tradeoff is that they have to make sure to gank you in a specific context

like some of the ganker trash will hang out spawnkilling people at the invaded DZ door because every time someone walks out they just laser him down with fully stacked umbras, wow, much skill

[azure lintel]

ok but what if it's your kink to get absolutely demolished from behind without knowing 🥺

[golden summit]

you wanna meme on these clowns, spawn at another door, bring in a 20 stack BLB buff, and then shoot them in the back for half a second

BLB means that if you want to "win" a darkzone fight and get the last word on them
just prestack it to wherever they're troublemaking and then instakill them

the 20 stack buff is completely unreasonable lol

[toxic flume]

I just noticed that’s an AlphaBridge build Lowkey

[whole thistle]

TU16.2 needs to come out soooooon

I can't keep dealing with these crashessssss

[oak prawn]

Hold out a lil longer almost there

[whole thistle]

Holdin out for youuuuuuu

[toxic flume]

I’m still waiting patiently for that spec revamp

[whole thistle]

Just irritating I crashed right before the mission finish screen on the 1st pentagon main mission

[oak prawn]

Feels bad ik how you feel I didn't even get pass the screen warning you to see a doctor if you experience any health problems without it freezing then crashing

[whole thistle]

I've not had that one specifically but i've had that stupid error that says "a debugger is running in your memory" or some bs

[oak prawn]

Never had that

[whole thistle]

no idea what causes/fixes it either

[toxic flume]

#unofficial-troubleshooting message

[whole thistle]

but my game just boots up sometimes after spamming it

[oak prawn]

Did you download something Maybe?

Ghost in the machine ouuuuu spooky

[echo cloud]

drone builds everywhere..

they are soo bad why do ppl play this crap still :D

[stoic mulch]

Is there a way to see all of the blueprints you can get from control points?

I want to see how many I have left. Tired of farming for thr faction material ones

[echo cloud]

just went for a quick conflcit match.. cheater right away

look at this stupid crap, full tank build and oneshotting everyone with a grenade in hand, did this thing the whole match. https://streamable.com/ufmb1z

[slow smelt]

I don't know how it happens but every single manhunt improves the story and makes it more and more interesting

Wally seems like such an interesting character from ONE conversation

[strong ledge]

I just want to get to see Natalya so I can give her all my love

Daria almost spoiled in the last stream that Natalya was gorgeous, and instead went on to say that Anderson is handsome

[echo cloud]

i have no idea what you are talking about

[reef reef]

what in the goddamn

[echo cloud]

thats what i say

[whole thistle]

god the error mask is so cool

[oak prawn]

Do u have it?

[whole thistle]

yeah

[wise smelt]

Idk the meaning behind it. But I would've love it if it showed the black tusk logo, or the the jtf. Literally anything but "error". Idk, that's just me.

[whole thistle]

hit level 100 yesterday

along with shd level lol

[oak prawn]

Mask is ok imo not something I'd rock personally but I can see the appeal to some

[whole thistle]

it rocks with my led hoodie vibe

so i like the color scheme

[oak prawn]

I hit Seazon level 100 2nd day season came out have not used anything from the premium track besides the keys

[whole thistle]

I've used busy bee a bit

[wise smelt]

Yup, the blue color matches alot of stuff. Ots a nice blue.

Maybe they can show the latest patch notes on it. Lol

[whole thistle]

But yet to make a build revolving around it yet

[whole thistle]

404: patch notes not found

[wise smelt]

💀

[oak prawn]

Busy bee is broken from what I heard I've used it and it's pretty meta rn

[whole thistle]

It's most broken because it works with skills right now

But supposedly that's meant to be patched in TU16.2

[oak prawn]

Ubi can't let us have fun

[wise smelt]

Would be nice if it showed the current patch we decide to wear. Now that would be sweet

[oak prawn]

I want vanilla TD2

Back

[bitter wraith]

Another game ruined by ubisoft. The RNG in this game is absolute 💩

Npcs are far too smart as well

[graceful basin]

Finally got the bullet king

[bitter wraith]

Spamming roll constantly lmao ☠️

[graceful basin]

So much torment for a lmg I'm never using another gun ever again

[bitter wraith]

Lmao it has terrible damage though

[strong ledge]

Bugout is the best, though

[graceful basin]

I don't even care I wanted this gun since warlords dlc came out

[whole thistle]

ggs

[broken brook]

if im on floor 12 of summit do i not get xp for floor 1-11 even if i play solo?

[whole thistle]

you get xp per floor completion

[whole thistle]

I mean it's not that bad. For someone that wants to turn their brain off and just hold down the trigger it's surprisingly effective

[bitter wraith]

Yh true...till you get one shotted 💀

[whole thistle]

Ahaha

[bitter wraith]

OW is pointless ima farm CD challenging

[whole thistle]

to be fair my mate that uses it has like 1.6m armor and then he uses that exotic that gives you armor stacks on headshot

he's made it up to like 4m armor once

[bitter wraith]

Is challrnging countdown better than heroic open world CPs with no directives?

For RNG?

[bitter wraith]

AYO? I Might have to try that ngl

[whole thistle]

Ye he's clutched a bunch of times for us. We did heroic Dragov and i got caught off guard by an enemy spawn but he had like double his armor so he just tanked shots and revived me and then we nuked them

[echo cloud]

dunno why everyone keeps saying that, bullet king has unparalleled sustained dps

[bitter wraith]

Maybe its just my broken build

[echo cloud]

there are a few encounters/scenarios where bullet king is a really great pick, maybe even first pick

[smoky stag]

steady handed gr9 says hello

[echo cloud]

i think people dont consider how much dps drops during reload windows in average encounter, its a lot

[smoky stag]

even sniper alley in iron horse doesnt need BK anymore
the need for BK is about zero

[echo cloud]

its a perfectly viable weapon in many situations

[smoky stag]

there are better options
if I had to use LMG, id go sleipnir, gr9 with steadyhanded (aka bullet king pro max), iMG5 fast hands
but not bullet king

[dense ermine]

is there any way to lock gear so you cant accidentally junk it?

[warped moat]

Whats the best way to farm proficiency/expertise?

[smoky stag]

yeah. mark it as favorite

[dense ermine]

⭐ ty

[summer frost]

Does the summit have the highest enemy density? I seem to rank up proficiency for my equipped pieces the fastest there

[summer frost]

Target loot in CD, go to recalibration table and donate the junk

[warped moat]

So not kill xp?

Cuz im doing both at the same time but feels like getting kill xp makes the junk i want to donatw less

Cuz u cant donate rank 10 items

[echo cloud]

@smoky stag but here's some nerd math that people dont consider.. my carbine7 reads 790 RPM, 50 round magazine and a 2.4 sec reload.. so it takes me 6.2 seconds to fire 51 bullets.. if u calculate for the reload times, the TRUE RPM on the carbine is not 790, its 480, ish. this why the bullet king is so good

cause it doesnt half its dps on reloads

ofc this calculation only applies in a true sustained dps situation where are constantly shooting for at least a minute, but the concept still applies, shaving off that reload is a massive dps boost

and i guess thats also why fast hands is such a gargantuan talent

but saying "bullet king bad, nyeh" is not doing it justice...

[dense ermine]

is there a resource thats shows max values for skill mods? the one linked through the subreddit only has gear mods

[smoky stag]

all this talk of reloads, do you even know what steadyhanded does?

[echo cloud]

yes

[smoky stag]

bullet king IS bad

pisses me off in random leggos when someone runs BK and suppresses drone operators and naders

[echo cloud]

pisses me off in random leggos when everyone is running their trash tier drone builds and spends 15 minutes to kill one chunga

when a proper striker build can do it in 5 seconds

durr hurr drone safe =D

[echo cloud]

but that is strictly a player issue and not a gear issue though

builds and equipment does not protect you from bad decisions =P

[smoky stag]

it is both
nobody should be running bullet king or any lmg for that matter in legendary

only acceptable use for it should be roosevelt drone boss

[echo cloud]

the tanky fucker on one of th e strongholds

whats his name, aggro something

in the basketball court.

[smoky stag]

meh. u can 1-2 tap him with HF HH

and even when u dont, you can spam him with scoprio

[echo cloud]

nah

haha bullet king go brrrrrrrr

;)

[smoky stag]

bullet king go leave my session pls

[echo cloud]

suck it up sweet cheeks

[smoky stag]

i see bullet king i see incompetence

[azure lintel]

im really torn on whether bullet king or backfire is the worse exotic 🤔

[echo cloud]

chameleon is

[azure lintel]

i dont even consider that an exotic, I just see a nice red component

[echo cloud]

there u go then

there's also diamondback, the bighorn, pestilence, sweet dreams.. all complete and utter garbage

[graceful basin]

Bullet king is life...

[echo cloud]

i also happen to think that liberty is a crock of shite

[inner elbow]

good for tank builds

[strong ledge]

Isn't this a nice, welcoming environment

[echo cloud]

i just ran through district union arena on heroic, with 6 blue cores.. took me 15 minutes

i dont think thats bad at all

just testing this striker tank setup

it honestly has never felt easier than this

[strong ledge]

Using Blue Cores isn't as bad as people make it out to be

[echo cloud]

yeah plus the bonus from striker is kind of nuts

[strong ledge]

Blue Striker is so good

[echo cloud]

it feels really strong

500k dmg per bullet with a vector on 6 blue cores lol whatever

[strong ledge]

I usually play with 4 Blues and even in 4-man Heroic it works well

[echo cloud]

you running protection from elite mods?

[strong ledge]

I like Emeline's Guard for sustain or Chatterbox to just BRRRRRRR a spawn

[strong ledge]

Nopers

[echo cloud]

im using protection from elite mods, fox prayers and catharsis

[strong ledge]

Sounds about right

Still, with that setup you could drop Blues for more Damage and it gets stupid

4B is usually good enough IMO

[echo cloud]

im missing significant ammount of stats

crit chance and damage non existant

my piece are in shambles, just wanted to test to get a general feel for its viability

[strong ledge]

Anyone could've told you Blue Striker is nuts

It's so damn good

[echo cloud]

i dunno, catharsis feels bad here

maybe a ceska piece would be beneficial

[strong ledge]

Just drop it, I dunno why people like it

[echo cloud]

hows ur tankyness without protection from elite tho

[strong ledge]

You're using a Vector, why you'd want a Ceska Piece?

[echo cloud]

like i said my pieces are not well rolled =P

[strong ledge]

21% plus 10 plus 15 is just 1 roll you need

[strong ledge]

I'm not exactly tanky but the Armor does allow me to beam down NPCs and proc Preservation

[echo cloud]

yeah, i went for a tank setup, otherwise i dont see the point of running blue cores

[echo cloud]

second run took me 11 minutes, hehe

[granite zephyr]

Had a tank team-mate in TB legendary

He stood infront of 2 heavies and took a straight 2 beam of damage for 8 seconds, half bar gone

[echo cloud]

full improvised tank probably

[granite zephyr]

My man was runnignall max Protection from elite mods

[echo cloud]

which is fun and all but its still useless cause they have no damage and no utility

[granite zephyr]

He was using the regulus so it was fine I guess

Dealing more damage than me, healer

[echo cloud]

mehh.

regulus tank in legendary? not doing much damage to be sure

[granite zephyr]

Yeah, he stood in a corner and had me healhim. While the main dps went to destroy the generators

Even before killing the 3 waves of enemy

Mad lads

[echo cloud]

ive done similar with foundry liberty build, stand in a corner while 10 summit legendary mobs are bouncing off my shield, nothing breaks it except EMP

but repeating myself, u can tank a lot of damage like that, but it stops there. tanking damage in itself is useless

[granite zephyr]

You are a walking target

[echo cloud]

i would much rather have an extra dps on my team than someone tanking

you can just throw out a decoy and u achieve the same result

the exception i would say is a scorpio-true patriot-opportunist tank, because he will actually boost your damage while also tanking

[granite zephyr]

Also either my luck is god or I killed a lot of BTSU medics

I got 2 BTSU gloves yesterday lol

I generally despise people who tank with a non support build, or people who run memento in a group

[granite zephyr]

No dps striker?

[echo cloud]

?

[granite zephyr]

Full red lol

[echo cloud]

full blue i said

[granite zephyr]

That's why I'm asking, No dps?

[echo cloud]

?

[granite zephyr]

Run a full red striker, more damage

1Mil per shot with chameleon,

[echo cloud]

i dont know what you are talking about, but we were talking about tank builds

i would kick you out my group if you came in wearin that

lmao

[summer frost]

Best skills to cheese legendary Roosevelt final part? Sniper turret, assault turret? Can you send out the drone to attack ads? I remember trying and not be able to

[patent citrus]

Are summit Legendaries somehow weaker than those found in strongholds?

[barren summit]

Just installed D2 for the first time. Game is unplayable. Constant stutters, freezes, and now crashing. Updated graphics drivers. Tried verifying game files and that failed. Any suggestions before I spend another 2 hours reinstalling the game?

[echo cloud]

put it on DX11

[barren summit]

GPU is GTX 1080 and CPU is i7-4770k. 32GB of RAM

[barren summit]

how do I make sure its running on DX11?

I'll give that a go. Thank you kindly.

never heard of rivatuner and non of my hardware or software is MSI brand related stuff

[strong ledge]

Jesus Christ random MM is in shambles

[barren summit]

I keep hearing D2 is in the crapper right now since the last patch, but the game and warlord dlc was on sale for $18

[strong ledge]

No matches and when you do get into a team, it's 3 folks cowering from a mile away

Who has time to crouch down and make a 10 minutes mission take 30 minutes?

[inner elbow]

yeah performance wise it's not good. everyone has their game crash on them at least once now.

[barren summit]

mine just crashed on launch. DX12 isn't enabled. See if enabling it might solve some issues.

[strong ledge]

Found the crouching slag

[barren summit]

like verify the files?

[strong ledge]

I specifically said folks who crouch down and engage from the white house

Not all who use cover intelligently

[strong ledge]

No?

[barren summit]

DX12 enabled and aspect ratio was way smaller in game than what my native screen resolution is, so adjusted that as well. So far running smoother.

@azure lintel game doesn't launch in fullscreen for me. I have to switch to full windowed every time it launches.

ah, gotcha.

I'll look into that if its still giving me fits

[hybrid ore]

Stop.

[azure lintel]

WHYYYY RIVENS

IT WAS JUST GETTING GOOD

[strong ledge]

Anyways. Slim pickings these days in random MM

[hybrid ore]

I'm on anti popcorn duty today.

[strong ledge]

I wonder where the aggressive players have gone to 😦

[sterile phoenix]

dz east 😛

[barren summit]

awesome. Thank you.

[hybrid ore]

You ain't wrong.

[strong ledge]

Glad you see it too

Blocking it is a way it's affected

...but it's a fact?

[hybrid ore]

That's true in the same way that drawing on your monitor is technically modifying your crosshairs.

[strong ledge]

That's an awful analogy but I will allow it because you don't like me

[hybrid ore]

I like everyone.
Except for @glass zenith

[azure lintel]

Sheesh

[patent citrus]

Question

[hybrid ore]

She knows what she did.

[azure lintel]

Even I'm not on that list?

Damn

[patent citrus]

Are legendary enemies in summit somehow weaker than those in strongholds?

[strong ledge]

No

[patent citrus]

Really does. I feel like I shouldn't be able to solo right now lol

[strong ledge]

The difference is that Stronghold Leggo NPCs are programmed to respond to where they are on the mission, do pushes, falling back, etc

In Summit they are just scaled and placed in an environment that wasn't coded for them

[patent citrus]

Ahh, so the AI are dumber

[strong ledge]

That's one way of putting it

No, they don't

You didn't say for melee, just weak

The melee buff is useless

It should have been 100 or as you say, 200% AMP

The one on knuckles, sweety

Yes, agreed

Yup, which is weak af considering CQC is heavily specialized

You don't really want to be up close to NPCs with most builds, so the buff on knuckles is weak

The Weapon Damage buff is solid, though

100% Melee and 25% Total Weapon Damage

It doesn't say it's total weapon damage in the description, but it is

In a shotgun build with enough armor you can easily melee NPCs to keep the buff up and straight up delete them

Or, hear this. Busy Bee

Punch with Bee, Shoot, Swap

I'm just thinking of the CQC approach

But yeah, grenade also works

Grenades are limited, though

Melees are not

There aren't melee builds

That aren't memes

Melee is just an instrument to proc knuckles

Yes, and it doesn't make a difference what you punch someone for as long as it lands

On a melee? I'd rather one shot with an M870 at that range after proccing knuckles

Ah PvP

Yeah

Melee builds in PvP are just annoying

Booster Hive has Melee buffs too and there's 20% to get there from Expertise

[gilded perch]

Melee build don't need gloves and boost hive

They all additives, trash

[strong ledge]

It's passively almoat the same as knuckles

I mean, considering sources are scarce, if your Hive is E21, that's 41% at tier 0

[hybrid ore]

Y'all counting in LD's buff too?

[strong ledge]

Half a knuckle

[hybrid ore]

And claws out I suppose

[strong ledge]

Weak for Melee

25% Total Weapon Damage versus 8 DTA?

[gilded perch]

Because knuckles and boost, they give additional additive of your "base" melee damage

[rare vapor]

We already had a melee build with lady death when it had 1000% melee dmg before in the PTS, and people were one shotting in pvp meleeing others. then it was removed/nerfed. Proved that the concept never's gonna work.

[whole thistle]

melee builds are just stinky

[gilded perch]

But claws out and LD can doing 3000% with shield

[strong ledge]

You didn't even know Knuckles had weapon damage and now you're an expert on it?

[whole thistle]

just use your gun smh 🥴

[rare vapor]

why melee when you can bullet people in point blank?

[whole thistle]

fr

[timber hatch]

It's only additive with other TWD. It's just as additive/multiplicative as dtooc or dta

[strong ledge]

K

[gilded perch]

Because you need weapon damage and chd or hsd of something else to increase gun damage, but melee don't

[strong ledge]

Wow

[timber hatch]

Sounds like your BK wasn't active

[strong ledge]

That's... Wow

[timber hatch]

Or something else wasn't the same

[rare vapor]

melee dmg only do 7298 at base in average, 3000% of that is only 220k max, not enough.

[strong ledge]

It's not about the melee damage, no one is going to use knuckles.to damage with melee

Melee is an enabler

[rare vapor]

1 bullet to the head is a 5.2 million crit, and in pvp, half is still huge. with some team buffs.

[gilded perch]

Melee in pvp, it's base damage around 20k, then 20k x3000%

[rare vapor]

3000% is what? with all the proc and buffs?

can you do it solo?

in what condition can you smack a player for 2 million dmg on the big toe?

[gilded perch]

Normally LD and claws is 100%+500%+500%

If you melee with shield
It's (100%+500%)x500%

[rare vapor]

actually, no. 20k base with 3000% boost if without any dimishing return, it's 600k max at best.

[gilded perch]

And also it increase by dta and ooc and other damage amplifier buff

[rare vapor]

600k max? players in pvp has at least 1.6m armor right?

[gilded perch]

600k is standard, if your melee build in pvp can't melee above 600k, it's trash

[rare vapor]

3 PTS ago, when LD had melee damage, we were meleeing players for 1.3m dead, then they removed all that. I don't think melee is coming back anew.

nerfed

[whole thistle]

sounds like copium

[gilded perch]

Future buff don't increase melee

[hybrid ore]

Melee is just not a good choice for a build in div2, no matter how good your setup is.

[whole thistle]

point in point 'situational'

meaning not a good choice

[gilded perch]

Once you got destroy by melee in pvp, you know

[hybrid ore]

Even if you could use your entire build to 1-tap elites, you'd still die to all the rest of the enemies around you.
It's nothing to do with skill.

[whole thistle]

the majority of this game you want builds that are good for like a decent amount of situations, not just a very specific circumstance

[gilded perch]

Melee is definitely trash in pve, but we talking about against player

Burh

[azure lintel]

that is a shocking concept, truly

[rare vapor]

no one's going to allow you that opportunity to get close

[strong ledge]

melee tanks in pvp are just distractions so your teammates can actually get the kills. Though it's a good breach option if they have someone with skills hiding behind

[rare vapor]

skill build in pvp

[hybrid ore]

Anyone who let's you get that close in PvP is either very new or has a plan to kill you.

[gilded perch]

They don't allow, and they can stop you is two different thing

[azure lintel]

or plays with a controller

[rare vapor]

stop you? the moment you foam me is the moment i drop you dead with bullets

[azure lintel]

oh god I said it please dont shoot me

[rare vapor]

i can still shoot when foamed you know

[hybrid ore]

I like to remind people that there's a reason we invented guns, because they're further away than a knife.

[strong ledge]

lol

[rare vapor]

and knife is longer than fists

[whole thistle]

Never bring a knife to a gunfight

And never bring a fist to a knife fight

[rare vapor]

unless you are John Wick, a pencil is enough

[whole thistle]

Rule of life

[strong ledge]

I'm with mudstick in this one

[hybrid ore]

It's easier to reload your gun than blood after you try to melee someone who has a gun.

[rare vapor]

everyone and their grandmas runs fast hands in pvp, what reload? it's 0.6 seconds.

[azure lintel]

well it's capped at 1 second anyways

[rare vapor]

no it's less than 1 second

[azure lintel]

.... the minimum reload speed is 1s

[rare vapor]

0.8 is the cap if i remember the math, but it could be 0.7. guardians proved it

[whole thistle]

you'd think if melee was 'viable' people would actually make videos about it that are well known.. oh wait

[unkempt moat]

There's no hardcap on reload time, Sharpshooter's pistol reloads instantly with it perk

[azure lintel]

😐

[strong ledge]

implying division 2 videos are worth watching to begin with

[rare vapor]

melee was viablee 3 PTS ago, there was videos

[whole thistle]

3 PTS ago yes

Now? lol

[hybrid ore]

Wasnt that like 2020?

[rare vapor]

now and future? lol