td2-build-advice

[silent storm]

Oh there we go that is good

[turbid drum]

oh that's great thank you

[silent storm]

Tipping Scales
All but the Chest.
Chest has a very niche use, TS stacks decay very quickly so having more stacks doesn’t help at all.

Have you tried Suppressing an enemy?

I mean it happens a lot with LMG, you don't lose stacks while an enemy is Suppressed

[subtle bluff]

Fresh or what's your SHD?

Oh nvm it looks you got pointed correctly by INF.

[exotic talon]

does anyone know

[subtle bluff]

Yes

[exotic talon]

sick, i can use this sokolov piece for hf temporarily

[subtle bluff]

hmm?

[turbid drum]

I was reading the guide and actually turrent/drone refactor build looks pretty cool

[subtle bluff]

Just start witht he striker one so you can farm

[turbid drum]

oh i was just about to ask if i should focus on striker or getting these pieces for refactor. thank you

[subtle bluff]

Just follow the first section of the guide the you can do everything else easier.

[turbid drum]

okay i got it. thank you all

[exotic talon]

i like using ridgeway's pride with an smg on hunter's fury, so i was looking for a sokolov backpack with wicked or creeping death i can roll to chc chd
closest i got is galvanize which isnt bad since hf spreads confuse

[marble root]

i want to make a tipping scales build with the big alejandro, but i wasnt there for the aniversary, how do i get it?

[subtle bluff]

Intimated and Ad. Rush with HF is very good.

[subtle bluff]

It's in your general loot pool so you can TL or find the retal for it.

You don't need Big Al for TS.

[exotic talon]

yeag but then i cant run ridgeway which would make me sad

[marble root]

true bt 1.1k rpm is funny

rn im running BP

[subtle bluff]

Ouro is more and it's as funny?

[marble root]

im NOT farming ouro bro

[subtle bluff]

It's not hard...

[marble root]

sonion ✌️ 💀

okay so like better question, how do i clear legendary/master content?

[subtle bluff]

Good build, gameplay and knowledge.

[silent storm]

Depending on how you play, Striker and Refactor can be interchangeable in Match Making. Both can solo most content, Striker can solo more due to how it works but most open world content is easy for both. Missions up to Heroic are simple for both Striker and Refactor and I have run solo heroic Retaliations on both builds with no problems. The main drawback of Refactor is Capacitor really makes it shine and that is a Summit weapon that you have to do the challenges to get. Can be tough for a new player to get that because of gear limitations.

[hexed steppe]

need ouro or you just die fast

[silent storm]

Ouro is a need for the new Master?

[hexed steppe]

you see what i did right

yes, requirement /s

or one just dies fast

[silent storm]

I need to level mine up lol I have it just never used it

Time to solo some master missions

I can wait til next week though because I am waiting for Stretch Goals to finish Season and Manhunt

I have completely ignored Manhunt this season simply because it is fastest way to stretch and my last Journey is still a few easy Legendary and a raid or something

[cunning shadow]

Does anyone have got the Houndsman Bounty ?

[silent storm]

I do

Need Quickstep?

[cunning shadow]

yes please

[silent storm]

Same name?

[cunning shadow]

mrbrazil_ttv

want doing him

[silent storm]

You get it? @cunning shadow ?

[cunning shadow]

nope

[silent storm]

I can't kill him but I have a quckstep

[cunning shadow]

can you share?

[silent storm]

ok leave area and I'll invite again for trade

[cunning shadow]

left

[cunning shadow]

thank you man. you are a star 😄

[silent storm]

Just a heads up for all future Quick Step looking for people. The bounty owner does not like you going to kill the Houndsman. Just wait outside lol

[cunning shadow]

cool i watched a video to make sure i didn fk thing up. so i was only doing the dogs 😄

[silent storm]

Yeah you only need to farm outside Dogs and then reset

[cunning shadow]

sound

[silent storm]

With 4 people it is 8 dogs and with Classified warp it is like 5 mins per run

[subtle bluff]

You can just leave once you active the bounty for them.

[silent storm]

I want to farm as well

I do leave though when I see people running into the door

As I only have 1 bounty left and don't want to lose it

And see how it worked out, If I just left then I would have had to do it again because he didn't get drop but I did

[subtle bluff]

I'm just noting you can just leave too.

[silent storm]

Yeah but I still need that perfect Hollow Man as I accidentally lost my last one

Should have listend to Local and Favorited it

And I am still not sure if I like the press F to open or not. I got used to the hold so I am fighting muscle memory so much on prof caches

And I feel like that is how they got me to buy Brooklyn Celebration because I did an accidentally on the buy button and it happened instantly

[lone violet]

funny how yt can show off builds but dont test them in legendary missions or escal

[marble root]

how do i even do escal? i mean like... the mode itself

i have no idea what it is

[subtle bluff]

But also when they do... They only cherry pick clips.

[subtle bluff]

It's in the starter guide

[silent storm]

I can't even imagine how bad it is now with Prototype gear and the stuff from that

Like before it was ExpLv 30 carrying bad builds now though whooo god it has to be insane

Maybe iKia was right lol

[marble root]

okay but like where do i find that

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[next dawn]

i like amalgum over echo tbh

[misty crane]

Sorry for going back to this but what's the od build for like group or escalation? I've done a few with my own build but just wanted to know if there's something more optimized

[smoky latch]

OD not really a good fit for Escalations

Lower tiers, okay. But reaching T5 it'll be less effective

[misty crane]

Is there a better option then?

[smoky latch]

This is what I use

I think there was a guide somewhere, hang on

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.feue0idx93gs
Bookmark this or the pinned speadsheet where you can find it again

[misty crane]

For lower tiers then? This is basically what I use as well but electrique back for more status effect

[atomic bear]

guys i’m buying TD2 ultimate edition on steam will my progress on xbox gamepass version carry on ?

[smoky latch]

You have a misconception about OD - it is not a status effect build, it is a DPS build that uses bleed to trigger the set's talent

[subtle bluff]

+T5 escalation is stuck to the meta you can use other but then it's meta like and will require more effort.
There a overview guide for it all in the same mentined as above.

[subtle bluff]

I can read! 😐

[smoky latch]

I know 😄

[silent storm]

Is that a Bell Ringer? BANNED !!!

[lone violet]

🤔

[smoky latch]

Bell Ringer ftw

[next dawn]

hmm

[smoky latch]

It's not nearly as annoying as the Bat Drone SFX

[silent storm]

I annoyed myself while leveling it up lol

[smoky latch]

Hahahaha, I don't mind it

Also, I don't have a regular MG5 where I can change its talent

[silent storm]

I can't imagine how many people blocked you for using that in Escalations

[misty crane]

Right, I think I'm just kinda stuck on what to actually build as like a utility/support hybrid

[smoky latch]

I don't use that build in Escalations. Meta and effectivity all the way

[smoky latch]

Well, OD is a DPS/support build. But you will need a different kind of support build in Escalations

[silent storm]

FI is the best support in Tier 10

with 3 Strikers

TS can do it as well

In terms of DPS though nothing else comes close

I feel like people going 7 Echo are worthless though

You need to have Amalgam on your kit

As a Striker/TS DPS

[next dawn]

paradox is also nice

[silent storm]

I don't like Paradox so much

[subtle bluff]

It’s still more gameplay and knowledge that’ll end up doing more.

[silent storm]

Paradox might be good for low ammo mags though

For high ammo mags I am thinking Echo and Amalgam and Trapper

4-5 Echo 1 Amalgam and 1 Trapper

[next dawn]

hmm Synesthesia over Paradox

getting that skill cooldown is really nice

if we take the new %s into account

[silent storm]

If your FI with BTSU is on point you don't need the skill cooldown buff

[next dawn]

ye but on a dps its nice

[silent storm]

For what?

[next dawn]

hive or decoy off the top of my head tho the cooldown on decoy is already fast

[silent storm]

For Tier 10 you should be running Revive Hive, which BTSU will refresh every 2 mins and Decoy already has a short cooldown

[next dawn]

with a designated healer sure but im talking bout full strikers group

[silent storm]

Why would you not want a healer?

[smoky latch]

I'd pick that when solo. In group play 1pc with Amalgam has more use

[silent storm]

I feel liek 4 Strikers is weaker than 3 Strikers with FI healer

[next dawn]

never said I didnt want one its just a good option

[silent storm]

FI with The Setup and Scorpio is 25-60% Bonus DMG

[next dawn]

yeah

[silent storm]

To all Strikers

So taking 4 Strikers over 3 Strikers and FI is gimping yourself

[next dawn]

im not disagreeing with team synergy

im talking bout the augment itself

would I have it just cuz yeah sure its a good augment

[subtle bluff]

Well.. Yes and no..

4 striker is still more DPS.

[silent storm]

I have gotten a couple pieces of FI proto and it has drastically changed my FI setup

[silent storm]

But more down time to heal up

[woeful zodiac]

Is there a good OD build that mostly won't require the Catalyst mask for the Corrosive Shell event?

[silent storm]

Is Repair Skill tied into the Restorer Hive repair speed?

[next dawn]

#td2-build-advice message

[next dawn]

i dont think so

[silent storm]

Because I feel like my FI set is better and faster now that I put a few Proto pieces into it

[smoky latch]

Proto doesn't really matter

[next dawn]

sigh getting all my loadout to prototype is gonna be a hassle

[smoky latch]

If you know what you're doing as healer your team will be fine

[next dawn]

put big green circle on floor everyone happy

[tame willow]

Hi guys, sry to interrupt but, what specialization should I first pick ? My current kit is assault riffles and machine gun , skill throwing seeker bombs and firefly.. just hit lv40...

[smoky latch]

Kinda

[next dawn]

gunner seem like that fits your loadout

[smoky latch]

All g, take a look at this guide for starters:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

Gunner is made for this type of loadout but you need to unlock it first

[next dawn]

ah the guide got bigger

[tame willow]

I can unlock demolitionist, gunner say I need to do missions

[next dawn]

indeed the tedious grind to get gunner

[tame willow]

That's a huge guide lmao

[next dawn]

demolitionist is a good substations

[tame willow]

So, gunner usually go with striker kits right

[smoky latch]

It's actually still smol for the amount of info that generally is out there

[next dawn]

most dps build will user gunner

[tame willow]

Ehto, should I go darkzone ? I haven't unlock it ..

[next dawn]

wait till you see the Build guides

docs ontop of docs

[tame willow]

Uh, can I have the link pls

[next dawn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[tame willow]

[tame willow]

My god 😂

[next dawn]

I wouldn't recommend darkzone at all as its not as good and effective as you think

[tame willow]

Really?

[next dawn]

you get boost in xp gain but the gear is lackluster at best

[sullen heart]

with strikers and a hollowman, which one is better to run? Contractors or a ceska piece for escalation dps?

[solar sable]

I've been trying to figure what other stuff can be added that fits the criteria. Something like "Material Routes" doesn't at all so that narrows the search.

[next dawn]

ceska

[solar sable]

Ceska is my pick, most reds just don't have armor at all and you won't benefit from Contractors' DTA.

[next dawn]

Material Route is meh

just say East Mall

[solar sable]

And here was I thinking that the TLDR section was the last thing to add but I feel like it's missing something...

[next dawn]

For retaliations can you get new graphics for the circle and what each circle represent and how it work

[solar sable]

Circles?

[solar sable]

Ah, the stacking thingy. Yeah, sure.

[next dawn]

ig theres graphics for you lol

[solar sable]

I'll see what I can do, thx.

[next dawn]

give more to the rookies to read 🙂

[next dawn]

right one thing that I have seen from new players is what each gearset does and what fits them maybe a short synopsis of each gearset?

nvm

[surreal elk]

is the new whiplash any good?

[next dawn]

ignore my rambling Doom

[next dawn]

its alright

[surreal elk]

it does not trigger my lmg frenzy 🙁

[next dawn]

well yeah frenzy need you to have it equiped reload it on empty

[solar sable]

Hmmm...

[woeful zodiac]

Is 4 pc OD, Overdogs and UA BP with Wicked good?

[next dawn]

that works you can also consult this doc as well:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.feue0idx93gs

[tame willow]

What is that ?

[next dawn]

Retaliation progression bar

you can learn more bout it here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

once Doom adds it

[buoyant perch]

UA only if you use tinkerer killer/sadist. Otherwise, use ceska backpack.

[fleet swan]

any good builds wit the name mode> the purple shti

i can jst read nvm

[junior lagoon]

that is what i am using. handles most content

[wheat basin]

Anyone got a good overdogs build?

[solar sable]

Everything.

Striker’s, OD, Nego, Hotshot(dogs), CoCo...

[next dawn]

it work on 90% of any build you put it in

[solar sable]

ALLERGIC TO META

[next dawn]

Meta slaves

[wheat basin]

for strikers do u use equilizer plate too?

[solar sable]

Ye.

[wheat basin]

how tf do u get one bro I’ve farmed 3 days straight for it, UA TL retaliations and cds

[next dawn]

its in the general loot pool just got to get lucky

[wheat basin]

man…. Should I try chest TL or is it not even worth

[next dawn]

no stick to UR

[flint arch]

target brand. if you target chest you have to contend with 208562097 other chest pieces

[next dawn]

and watch them get a god roll equalizer

[flint arch]

if it's not sacrifice i don't wanna see it

[solar sable]

Of course...

STREAMLINE IS THE META TALENT

[next dawn]

tf you on

[flint arch]

i will personally strangle you

[next dawn]

NA BAT DRONE SFX IS THE BEST

[solar sable]

YOU KNOW BALL

[solar sable]

I found some cookies on the counter.

[next dawn]

Ofc

[next dawn]

ah the good ones

[lament reef]

On god i kick people using bat drone

[next dawn]

noooo

[static kernel]

Is streamline the new meta?

[next dawn]

no we just having banter

[solar sable]

Yes.
(Shrooms are hitting, all of my statements are wrong except this one).

[next dawn]

boi go back to fixing your doc

[flint arch]

no

[next dawn]

look at it

magnificent

[solar sable]

-Unexpertises your Sacrifice-

[next dawn]

NOOO

[next dawn]

its gonna get proto

I will proto my sacrifice

[flint arch]

@solar sable admit to your crimes.

[next dawn]

gimme some exotic components

[flint arch]

no

[next dawn]

😭

just gimme 25

[flint arch]

i have 3

[next dawn]

that will give me 1 more level

[solar sable]

Nuh uh.

[flint arch]

fine

[solar sable]

Tom Clancy's The Division 2 ❌
Tom Clancy's Exotic Component Simulator ✅

[next dawn]

trust once stretch goals comes is gonna be hunting season

[kind cradle]

Can anyone help me out real quick, I’ve been using “The Drill” assault rifle but I have just gotten a “Strega” exotic assault rifle and I’m just wondering if I should switch to the “Strega” or keep using “The Drill” I currently have it at Rank 10 and only at expertise level 3 (The Drill) and the rpm for it is 948 with a 45 rnd mag and the “Strega” has a 840 rpm with a 40 rnd mag but it does 15k more dmg. I’m running a striker build if that helps to know

[subtle bluff]

Both aren’t really good at all to be honest.

[kind cradle]

Or do I switch to the pyromaniac AR?

[kind cradle]

I don’t have any good weapons so that’s all I have to work with rn😂

[subtle bluff]

I think this is the advice you need.

[kind cradle]

I just started playing again a few weeks ago and I am clueless on how to get any better weapons😂

[subtle bluff]

Any +790rpm weapon with DTTooC and either Killer (solo) or measured

There a starter guide in the pinned messages.

[next dawn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[kind cradle]

I have the same build as the guide already

[subtle bluff]

But you have issues with weapons?

[kind cradle]

Except for the gloves because I don’t know how to get them, I just need better weapons

[subtle bluff]

The guide explains all of it

[kind cradle]

I mean kinda, I feel like I’m not doing enough dmg sometimes

[subtle bluff]

Well again the guide is there for a reason.

You’re library isn’t max for reds I’m guessing too

[kind cradle]

I’ve never done retaliations? I’m assuming I should be doing them? I have pretty much just been playing countdown or escalations

[next dawn]

Overdog you get them through the general loot pool or TL gloves or hyena retaliations

[solar sable]

Read what the Escalations section has to say about new players doing them.

[kind cradle]

I’ll go and have another read about them now

[next dawn]

Make the text Bold

[solar sable]

It's already bold lol

[next dawn]

Impact Bold XD

[solar sable]

I dunno... looks like the text from an 8 bit game

Oops, solved.

[next dawn]

lol

[next dawn]

can you Bold Kill Squads

[solar sable]

That one?

[junior lagoon]

Groupo Sombra holster has any place?

[smoky latch]

Good to have one piece for each slot

[flint arch]

doomz your guide sucks, cut the crap out and just say use PVGC Striker or quit the game

[solar sable]

Magic words?

[flint arch]

no more standard striker as the recommended first build

[smoky latch]

K.I.S.S, who cares about reading

[flint arch]

tell new players to suck it and get The Gift somehow

[solar sable]

Gemini, turn this message to TTS.

No not this one.
No not that one either... ugh.

[junior lagoon]

The apartment with dtoc on sale at countdown vendor

[smoky latch]

Lol

[next dawn]

looks tasty

[woeful zodiac]

No way this is an actual skin

[lone violet]

🤔

[smoky latch]

?

[lone violet]

idk what to think of this

[next dawn]

it a build

[smoky latch]

What makes you uncertain about it?

[neon lion]

Is it because of bellringer?

[woeful zodiac]

What the best LMG for OD if I'm not using Tinkerer?

[smoky latch]

You can use whatever LMG you want. Mg5 just has a decent burst damage

[lone violet]

Kek

[smoky latch]

Since I don't have a regular MG5 with CHC I had to use that one

[smoky latch]

Nice try, nice try

[next dawn]

trust it has to be good

[smoky latch]

Sadly, Core Strength gave it away anyway 😬

[neon lion]

I must not get baited. Bait is a mind killer...

[smoky latch]

Plenty bait on YT

[solar sable]

WHAT IF

[next dawn]

XD

trust bro its good

[smoky latch]

My reaction

[next dawn]

XD

[buoyant perch]

Look at that big smile! You must like it a lot.

[solar sable]

That mask is cool, is it inspired in Nemesis or is it him?

[buoyant perch]

Resident evil crossover

[smoky latch]

Nemesis yup

Looks good with some hoods

[solar sable]

I need it 🥴

[lost wren]

21:30

[smoky latch]

A new Resident Evil crossover would be neat. There are pretty cool agent outfits

Mercenary or whatever

[next dawn]

hot take but I honestly would like to get weapon specific skins back

they honstly look good

[smoky latch]

As long as it's not like Tendrils for the ACS-12 I agree

Thx for reminding me, gotta check Danny Weaver

[next dawn]

ooo same

[next dawn]

lovely

what to do with 50k textile

[smoky latch]

Hopefully getting a benefit for the upcoming stretch goals event

[next dawn]

valid

gonna get lots of stuff to deconstruct

thoughts on the new phoenix hunter?

[smoky latch]

Temu hunter. Died way too quick

[next dawn]

lol

fair enough

[smoky latch]

The puzzle is thoughtful tho

And the glow effect on the mask looks nice

[next dawn]

took 4 people 1 day to solve

[smoky latch]

Yeah I read about it

[next dawn]

got some smart minds out there

[next dawn]

agreed

[smoky latch]

Would have been cool if it was on a different mask but I take it

The question that arises is: when outfit?

[next dawn]

true

@solar sable cease this madness

[junior forge]

What is an actually reliable source for builds? Figure I need to replace this dusty old striker build but I'm not up to date on what's good right now

[next dawn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[solar sable]

They have spoken.

[next dawn]

resist the voices

also

[junior forge]

Thought the whole point of prototypes was being more modable?

[smoky latch]

Where did you read that?

[junior forge]

🤷‍♂️ Just remember the dev post making it sound like gearsets on steriods

coulda read it wrong

[smoky latch]

Well yeah, it's basically level 50 gear

Strongest ger in the game currently

But they had zero intention to let us recalibrate anything with it, only after an enormous backlash they said they're looking into recalibration or similar

[fathom depot]

Have a question , between 2 gear support build what is actually useful for high tier escalation??
1.

• Future Initiative , Birdie's backpack , Alp summit

• Alp summit (Empathic Resolve talents) , Future Initiative , Birdie's backpack

[smoky latch]

Future Intiative, The Setup, Alps Summit - lets you easily switch to Birdie's or BTSU gloves

Instead of Alps you could use 1pc Hana-U or improvised gear

[next dawn]

or wait till next season for that brand set

[smoky latch]

Nah

[next dawn]

😭

[hazy steeple]

Recalibration for it was planned early on, IIRC in the initial reveal stream for it.

[smoky latch]

The new set will not provide a team-wide damage bonus and burst heals

I can see it work in PvP tho

[next dawn]

but I want to be a selfish healer

[smoky latch]

Then use Refactor lol

[next dawn]

XD

na we troll with FI

[fathom depot]

Thanks for all advice

[smoky latch]

Are you sure about that?

[hazy steeple]

I have a fairly distinct memory of the OG livestream mentioning it as a possible future plan, but regardless: it will happen, so it's a win all around.

[smoky latch]

tik tok

[terse scroll]

I'm waiting for recalibration before getting deeper into Escalation

[next dawn]

good choice

[junior lagoon]

recalibration fine but i dont think optimization will come soon

[terse scroll]

Just stockpiling cores whenever I get a chance, and tokens since they're not going away

[ember roost]

Which backpack is recommended for a Tinker's Ongoing Directive build?

[solar sable]

Ceska

[ember roost]

So Devils Due or Guerilla. Got it.

[next dawn]

no Ceska backpack with wicked

[ember roost]

ok

[terse horizon]

peak escalation troll build?

[next dawn]

not troll enough

use Legatus S.p.A aswell

[livid sorrel]

you can use vigilance too if you dont get hit

[soft crane]

Use 5.11

[next dawn]

Make it troll not useless XD

[weary condor]

What’s the best module setup for pure dps on an ar striker build?

[solar sable]

Module?

[livid sorrel]

the season modifier

[weary condor]

The little watch things where you pick blackout and stuff

[solar sable]

Ah, I'll let someone else answer.

[next dawn]

You want to maximize headshot damage

[weary condor]

Does anyone have like a list of screenshot, I’ve tried a bunch but don’t know what the max max is

[next dawn]

Convert 1 offense , compress 1 offense and nullify

[smoky latch]

Depends on your weapons and the activity.

[ember roost]

Why do so many people put crit on a pestilence/blue screen build? I thought you wanted to ham on the status effect bonuses.

[subtle bluff]

Because Pesti Tick is not a Status Effect.

[ember roost]

I just got one. Thanks for letting me know

I was planning on running Carnage with it.

[subtle bluff]

Trying to put Status Effect into Status Effects that don't have anyway to scale it's base number is very small improvement.

(aka Skill Tiers)

[ember roost]

Alrighty. I have crit chance and crit damage on all my OD peices.

Wasnt sure if I needed to change them.

[ember roost]

So, I was going to use Ridgeway pride with the pesti. Would that not be viable then?

[subtle bluff]

Getting that close to everything to proc a small DOT and HOT isn't really a great trade.

There are guides for both things you're trying to do.

In the Build Hub in the Pinned Messages

[ember roost]

Interesting. Alot of the tops builds do not even use OD.

Thanks for pointing that out!

[subtle bluff]

I don't understand what you mean by tops builds don't use OD.

[ember roost]

If you sort the builds by Top rated, a majority of them use Concentrated Company.

[next dawn]

???

You on your own for this one Chow

[subtle bluff]

Yea.. idk..

[subtle bluff]

Yea I'm still lost...

CoCo are not "Top" builds...

[subtle bluff]

Gonna guess some offsite..

[exotic talon]

where are you sorting a list of builds by top rated

[ember roost]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builds/search?q=pestilence&sortBy=rating

[exotic talon]

pestilence works best with high end gear that maximizes your base lmg damage so this is probably a youtuber or clueless shd 10000+ moment

[next dawn]

There isn't a zenith for builds each build plays its own role it's a bad example to sort different gears sets by the top rated

[solar sable]

"The majority"

[subtle bluff]

buildstation ah.

[next dawn]

I am perplexed, and flabbergasted

[exotic talon]

anyways let me weigh in on what i do know here
ridgeway sucks ass and the only reason i use it with hf is because you already want to be in the range that triggers its talent

[subtle bluff]

there not even sorted by anything. No rates builds there yet.

If you look at the "rating" there's not much even.

[next dawn]

This offsite builder isn't really good

[subtle bluff]

It's the best we got.

What's wrong with it?

[next dawn]

Personal opinion

[subtle bluff]

I'm one of the big helpers on it but I only helps info wise.

[muted ridge]

Was pondering this morning over coffee; as Quickstep is the de facto number one choice for pistols now, being essential for most mm group play and solo for that matter - should the quickstep effect be active when any pistol is held, to increase build diversity?

I know its the trade off that counts, but in general group play there isnt much choice or be left behind, literally. With the new exotic, or any new pistol for that matter does the Quickstep just invalidate them? Thoughts?

[exotic talon]

honestly yes pistols should increase movespeed
but also quickstep doesnt invalidate anything because its what you use when you dont want anything else specifically

[hazy steeple]

The issue with giving to just "all" pistols, is that it doesn't solve the old issue of there only being a couple that were worth it anyway.

It bandaids the new problem, but that's about it.

[exotic talon]

the actual issue is that a lot of pistols just suck and unless it has a gimmick or is exotic
you would rather use quickstep

[livid sorrel]

give pistols the dmg to low health enemies back

[muted ridge]

Note I mentioned group play. Solo one can choose anything, although retals also kinda demand it. For example I would use finisher on a pistol for all play, as I'm one of the few it seems who likes swap mechanics. Cant do that in Countdown really etc if all other team mates are using QS. Would giving the effect to all pistols just be too easy, or are we at the stage where we need it to bring back some variety?

[hazy steeple]

Give pistols damage to elites!
(I'm not salty I lost my perfect mod from way back, you are)

I actually do think QS is as useful in solo as in group-play, for the simple reason of: positioning.

[livid sorrel]

while we're at it we might as well give primaries different move speeds

[hazy steeple]

Being able to get to a specific point in a battlefield quicker, has saved me more times than I can count.

[muted ridge]

Oh yeh I love the pistol effect and use it a lot, but sometimes its so de facto choice that it seems a shame for things like the new Exotic to exist etc

[exotic talon]

reggy and busy little bee are both insanely good in both solo and groups if youre willing to put in the effort

[next dawn]

giving up quickstep for them is kinda hard ngl

[hazy steeple]

I almost hate to put this out in the universe, but I do wish QS would get removed.

[buoyant perch]

Well, the talent of whiplash in itself is OK but I have a big issue with it taking up the exotic slot

[exotic talon]

ive been saying this, they need to just remove it without patch notes or prior notice

[muted ridge]

yeh thats the point of my post. Its always a trade off, and QS seems to come up top, especially in random group play, clans not so much

The movement effect I do like though, I think its a good addition, especially with Retals and so on.

[subtle bluff]

even before quickstep it was really rare for players to use pistols. The 2 were only really TDI Kard or Orbit.

[static stirrup]

Would have been more useful if it was a different pistol type, not the 6-round revolver...

[next dawn]

I would love more burst and auto pistols

[muted ridge]

And after the introduction of Quickstep? We have had a few new pistols now, and they still dont get used much I guess

[subtle bluff]

Other than one shots not really.

The speed was one of the hardest things to get in the game so it was really a game changer if anything.

[loud sleet]

can anyone offer some pvp build advice to a returning player, im only trying to get into the dark zone to do my steam achievements (1 rogue kill each zone, 1 hijacked extract)

not looking to put together the meta build just something accessible without months of farming or rng, enough to win 3 fights haha

i have st elmos engine, coyote mask, momento backpack, ninjabike messenger backpack if that helps

[subtle bluff]

If you go to the Pinned Messages > Build Hub > PvP starter that should get you started. It's a lil out of date but a lot of good stuff there. It's all changing soon to note with the next patch.

[exotic talon]

i like whiplash because its an actual backup weapon

[muted ridge]

Yeh it has been a game changer, in the sense that its now almost essential to use or else you are left behind on group play. We have an entire library of pistol talents all superseded by a single weapon.

[subtle bluff]

we also have a #td2-pvp-discussions for more specific the players that help aren't always but will get back to you. @loud sleet

[subtle bluff]

The only reason we don't use it is for One Shot builds.

[loud sleet]

yeh i saw but seemed more appropiate to post in build advice rather than pvp discussion but i will try there now to 🙂

[muted ridge]

yeh and isnt that the problem? its a real lack of build diverisity and choice? its fair enough that there wasnt much choice before QS, and thats something that couldve been worked on anyway. With QS there is less reason to mix things up now, and in random group play you kinda have no choice. The effect is great, and if that was standard on all pistols, it would open things up more, even if that "more" isnt much its more than now.

[subtle bluff]

It's not that bad vs what escalation did.

[muted ridge]

Yeh, ironically escalations dont need the QS all that much as you are just standing around shooting at walls for 30 minutes. Escalations is its own game breaking problems, and is the biggest travesty for build diversity the game has ever seen.

[subtle bluff]

I should of said Proto more than escalation

I'm semi ok with escalation it's really Proto that's... ya travesty.

[muted ridge]

I understood and yes, its Proto thats the issue. The challenge of Esca is something the game needed. We needed harder content, not more powercreep and the narrowing of build craft. But yes, we are on the same page there.

[exotic talon]

again, the issue is the lack of worthwhile pistols rather than the dominance of quickstep
but quickstep also sucks because its a very uninspired unique talent that should be an innate mechanic for all sidearms

[muted ridge]

We have a library of really cool pistol talents, and they could've been tuned up to make actually using them way more attractive. Also we have some cool exotic pistols which can act as real back up weapon etc. But when it really boils down to which to go for most of use throw on the QS and call it done. With the effect seperated from the pistol we have more choices all of a sudden, even if some of those choices are "meh" at the moment. I'm all for more diversity in a build craft centric game (or at least, it used to be before proto)

[subtle bluff]

Don't get me wrong I'd rather that QS not be in the game but it's too late.

[muted ridge]

Its never too late mate, the devs have made hard decisions in the past, they could again. The health of the game is always more important. At least I wish that was what the new team thought.

[subtle bluff]

No, it's too late. Once something in it's in.

[muted ridge]

I disagree, but thats just my opinion.

[subtle bluff]

Just seeing how the dev work is the only reason I said that.

[muted ridge]

Yeh man, I concur. But wouldnt it be exciting if someone with some big cahoonas and common sense on the dev team stepped up and just sorted it out!

[broken flax]

For Eclipse, is there a cap or diminishing returns for the Status Effects stat?

[gentle lichen]

Everything has diminishing returns and it doesn't have a cap

[cinder karma]

Technically the entire dev team did exactly that: stepped up to an actively bleeding title and trying to unfu- whatever was left behind by the previous devs. That's no easy feat. However though, the new devs, it's hard to take their word for things and get too excited over what they announce. Lately let's just say people are happy with the new content but pissed about the quality that is being delivered

The game is in a better spot than it was when this season first hit, strictly talking about content of course. On the other hand, bugs and hiccups alone, this season there's way more bugs than there has ever been in all the seasons of division combined

[mild shell]

what's better for a Dread Edict build: Aces & Eights or Breaking Point? or something else entirely

[sullen night]

I'm honestly not sure Dread Edict is worth using in its current state, you're probably better off using a rifle like 1886 instead if you wannt the somewhat fast-firing but still kind of hard hitting build

[mild shell]

oh really? cause it felt good to use and decently powerful, 1886 is pretty awesome too ngl

wouldn't a relic with perfect determined be better than a 1886 with standard determined?

and like some chd

[broken flax]

Standard determined can proc indefinitely, perfect determined is a one-off

[mild shell]

ohh right right

[sullen night]

Yea perfect determined breaks the loop unfortunately

[mild shell]

time to look for a decent roll 1886 then ;P

[broken flax]

Plus, there's quite a few people who want regular determined to work the same as the perfect version

So idk if that'll change at one point

[sullen night]

I'm not sure what the current "meta" is for this kind of build, I played it a bit ago with Chainkiller, The Gift, 3x Breaking Point and Tinkerer (I'm not 100% sure but I think that was the setup, there's probably better stuff now though)

[broken flax]

Is the gift a backpack?

[sullen night]

yea

[muted ridge]

Absolutely. The team that held this shit together, kept the lights on and the engines going are the real mvps. However, and I think a lot of us have felt this; recently things have not felt good. There used to be a great emphasis on listening to community feedback, allowing the player base to shape the game; Yannick would mention this a lot and tbf it got us this far (bar the last two months) I have a feeling the suits have been circling this franchise recently, and engagement and metrics have been more important than community feedback. There is a reason they didnt allow emojis on the PTS section on discord this time. Sadly I think we are dealing with some hubris from the new dev team too.

Anyway this is beyond the build advice channel, back to striker protos everyone!

[uneven sleet]

can i do t10 escalation with these stats?

[urban latch]

Show us the build, not the stats, but the stats also don't look good

[soft crane]

No. You're lacking Crit chance, thats for sure.

[urban latch]

Swap out equalizer for striker chest and get 1p ceska. T10 will be rough, but that's your best option.

What does your LMG look like? Can you show the stats on that?

[wanton hornet]

I'd say items look good but stats seem unoptimized

[uneven sleet]

what is 1p ceska

oh you mean one piece of ceska?

[calm nebula]

Hey there! Do you like the new healer set that will be available the next season??

I think I like it more than the Future Initiative set...

[halcyon crater]

You use FI for more than the healing, it also gives a dmg buff. You can't really offset that with the new set

[dense plover]

Buil para usar rifles desde ya muchas gracias 👍

[lone violet]

refactor build is still good for tier 10 escal right?

[urban latch]

It's not good much earlier

[lone violet]

heresy

Where’s the cap?😭

This hurts my soul

[warm talon]

Hi all. Need to level up my watch level quick I'm currently level 233 please help

[obtuse shoal]

Being that I’m shd 1000 now I really don’t care for xp no more.. about to run challenging really don’t see a difference in loot anyway

[crude oriole]

I’m going for a damage build, I got the bullet king LMG and was wondering what gear sets I should be looking for to improve it.

[wanton furnace]

rng has blessed me today

[vernal wing]

No - they instaskill the drone.

You need to at minimum swap it for something less optimal. At that point your damage and healing are usually doing a lot worse than either another striker or a dedicated FI

[lament reef]

it’s kind of stinky honestly
never reloading is nice but you give up any kind of damage perk

good on tipping scales, of course

[lost wren]

i should create a future initiative build

i just feel lazy right now lol

[tall zealot]

Just got back to the game after a loooong time from PS, newly started on PC. Do you have any advise on what builds to use - the only exotic weapon i have is the Iron lung.

[weak ferry]

The gunner specialization gives 10% armor repair per kill.
Does it also give 10% armor repair on skill kills?

[halcyon crater]

See pins for a fresh lvl 40 guide

[junior lagoon]

you are lucky. iron lung is one of the best exotics there is

[hazy kernel]

On a LMG crit chance or DTTOOC?

[hazy steeple]

@hazy kernel dtooc is on there by default and can't be removed, so CHC (crit chance).

[hazy kernel]

sry

massive brain lag, meant dmg to armor

[hazy steeple]

No apology necessary, that's what we're here for
you want CHC so you can save a mod slot for more important stuff, basically.

[hazy kernel]

okay thank you

[lost wren]

is this a good skill haste/repair skills distribution for future initiative?

[onyx sage]

yes

[lost wren]

?

[subtle bluff]

This how I like to run it. It depends on the player more.

[lost wren]

gotcha, thanks

[tall zealot]

thanks for this! Now I just need to find someone who still has the bounty for the quickstep pistol since I'm so jealous of the people running ahead of me when farming countdown.

[halcyon crater]

look in #lfg-pc , someone is usually hosting it

[lost wren]

right now i have a good setup bag but it has blue, meaning i have to use technician for 6 tiers sadly

do i just farm for a good one in countdown, got unlucky with crafting

[next dawn]

That works yes

[lament reef]

you have to get lucky with one of them, either drops or crafting

[subtle bluff]

And again you don't need a prefect one with skill haste or repair will work just fine.

[lost wren]

i’ll still try and farm for the unicorn

for the time being i'll run this

[next dawn]

That's perfectly fine

[uncut yarrow]

Peep the drip

[upper yew]

do any of you got that excel sheet thingy for a striker loadout ?

the kind that explains multiple variable weapon/gear combos and dwelves into detail

[next dawn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1380412817#gid=1380412817

[lost wren]

fang helm
ragged patriot scarf
grizzly chest
hawk pants and shoes
drifter backpack
valkyrie gloves

[uncut yarrow]

Very interesting

Very interesting indeed

[lost wren]

fang helm isn’t achievable anymore but there should be other options that are fitting as well

stinger hunter mask fits really good

[upper yew]

thank you

[fierce ether]

for hearthbreaker build just copy the ping message build right?

[next dawn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HeLeb8_c6w6DY-0qwVuKUfaCjp27f9wrv0_H6g2Ah98/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.96rmu8ogf3lt

[uneven sleet]

which mods should i use in the lexington for my striker build

[buoyant perch]

+20 round mag and crit mods

[buoyant perch]

Stop asking the same question everywhere

[uneven sleet]

chill man missclicked on the other chat

[buoyant perch]

You know you can delete messages right?

[uneven sleet]

😥

[lone violet]

Am I crazy for running a utility build on high escalation cause it’s working (imma get roasted)

[next dawn]

Eh not really along as it works it works

[lone violet]

It does tbh

Just running the shot gun that one taps reds and purple and other things that go hand in hand

Cause uh naders,rushers,shields are annoying

[vernal wing]

They aren’t annoying when you kill them as soon as they spawn using meta builds 🤐

[lone violet]

Yeah but it got its uses I can’t complain

[halcyon crater]

Depends, cause if you're matchmaking then more than likely you get carried by team 🤣

[onyx sage]

if you wanna know if it works truly or not, you gotta ask the others playing with you

[lone violet]

Well it uses the fire fly to destroy weak points,proxy etc good for those that can send drones or set up turrets but imma stop there cause it gonna be a tldr

[onyx sage]

again, you gotta ask the people you're playing with, cuz how much you bring to the team depends on what the team needs

[vernal wing]

Firefly

[onyx sage]

like for our team for example we play pretty aggressive on t10 so we need a birdie's FI on standby

we blast chungas so fast we don't even need crossbow or firefly, just sledge and we're done, no time wasted on weakpoints etc.

[flint arch]

🥹

[subtle bluff]

❤️ 50 DTH

[lapis terrace]

what would this game be like if tank, support, dps and heal were all equally viable.

[calm nebula]

Well, the buff is not always active, it's so easy to break it since you loose it by taking any bit of damage! And, if you use a chest with certain talent, you can do pretty the same, isn't?

[onyx sage]

at that high difficulty, you should be playing better to avoid as much damage as possible. its uptime is a lot higher than you think with good teams

also, more healing isn't the solution, because full red players don't have that much armor so they die in a few hits anyway, even if you have infinite healing you can't save them from dying in such few hits

[lost wren]

there's a point where there is "too much healing", thus making you sacrifice stuff like damage buffs and other utility

future initiative helps boost damage significantly on top of excellent healing
25% dmg with max armor, combined with usage of sledgehammer and opportunist

you just don't get that as easily with other healer builds

[subtle bluff]

If they were equally viable that would be pretty dumb seeing full squad of “heal”…

Does the misconception here. The current game is viable to use Supports (support tanks and “heals”) escalation yes is very different but that’s just because of scaling and has to be done that way.

[lapis terrace]

ah as long as the mission isn't timed 4 healers would be fine. Just stand there and face tank as you bathe in the green goo. Tanks aren't really viable in legendary or in pvp at all.

[subtle bluff]

You’re missing the point…. Support tanks are very much viable in legendary.

[lost wren]

max pfe and scorpio right?

[subtle bluff]

4 healers could do that wouldn’t be balance game then..

[lost wren]

what's a support tank

[subtle bluff]

The gameplay is just as important as the build.

[subtle bluff]

Distracting the important targets, blowing off backpacks, just affecting the battlefield.

Giving out buffs.

[fluid zinc]

Dose anyone have a cleaners inspired build?

[subtle bluff]

I also have a dislike for players thinking that support build is only healing.

[shy basalt]

I personally hope that div3 is designed with more of a live-service design in mind

so they can actually create content that encourages a wide variety of gameplay interactions

[subtle bluff]

I get that shooter/comp games but isn’t that what looter-shooters are? A live-service game?

[shy basalt]

well yeah div2 is a looter shooter

but i think one thing that has held them back for a long time is that they were for a long time trying to do too much

[subtle bluff]

I didn’t start into div at the start only about 3 year ago now.
But from what I guessed and have a small understanding is that they rushed super quick into Div2, didn’t flush out the coding well or setup the all the tools and assets well before and they were left with a mess to try to fix the since launch and that whole team that started it all is gone now.

[shy basalt]

yes, and honestly, the current team has done a pretty good job with what they had to work with

[subtle bluff]

Hence their taking there time this time to setup tools and assets correctly.

For div3

[subtle bluff]

I don’t disagree. I just wish they give us more PTS time.

[upper yew]

I think the problem is division as a franchise aint a competitive pvp focused like ow/tf2/rivals its a pve focused looter shooter and many ppl play solo these days so killing something fast enough that they cant touch you is usually the meta in these types of games

[subtle bluff]

Listen closer to the ones that have taken our time to learn everything.

[shy basalt]

IMO what they need to do in division3 is properly design enemy types so that rare/elite enemies can be different in replayable content

[subtle bluff]

Hence this upcoming patch…

[shy basalt]

ie: similar to how rare/yellow mobs in games like POE,etc can be differently threatening depending on the situation

and the mods they roll with

[hazy steeple]

Okay, back to the builds now.

[subtle bluff]

Yup yup. This is a chat thing.

[shy basalt]

I think that's actually a core part of why they have a difficult time making the game compatible with different builds

because the current design, they can only change scaling on HP/dmg (see escalations); so the only build that matters is strikers essentially

[subtle bluff]

before this patch I kind of like the state of the game. We had a few more builds that were sitting near or more than striker for master/leggo.

[shy basalt]

if they want to make different builds with different strengths shine, the enemies need some way to accentuate that

[upper yew]

ive heard striker has been hard meta since div1, can't confirm tho never played that game

[subtle bluff]

Just the plain understanding that leggo is SUPPOSED to be an actually challenge and players bring half ass build or mindset to it makes it not feel like that.

[upper yew]

its funny how a cavemanlike logic of "shoot to get a buff so you shoot stronger" works

[subtle bluff]

Striker wasn’t in div2 on release and when striker was released it wasn’t good till they redid it and once they did yes it wasn’t meta.

[shy basalt]

ie: builds like HB, Nego, OD, etc each have their own strengths; but current game design doesn't really require those

the only thing it needs is more dps, so strikers is king

[upper yew]

btw rate my hemorroid build guys

[subtle bluff]

That works!

[lament reef]

yeah looks nice

personally I prefer tinkerer’s OD but overdogs is also very good

[shy basalt]

but imagine if there was for example there were escalation mods that made it so the map was foggy and rainy, so having a laser pointer is actually helpful.
or if there was a mod that made it so enemies had massive hp regen, so bleeding them with OD was actually useful
or even if there was a mod that made it so you did less damage at range, but more damage at close-range; so people would be incentivized to run cqb, hf, etc

IMO those would've been more interesting random mods to tack onto escalations than the current way they just scale hp/dmg

[upper yew]

tinkerer doesnt let me use neither scorpio or carnage

[shy basalt]

because it would actually incentivize different builds being useful

vs just strikers needed because it maximizes dps because everything is just a wall of meat

[hazy steeple]

@shy basalt You're welcome to continue this over in #td2-general-chat or something, but let's leave this channel to people wanting advice for builds.

Although #1380126780152614944 might be more your speed.

[teal ibex]

first proto i made... gr9... REALLY GAME?

[hazy steeple]

That honestly is a pretty big increase.

[teal ibex]

it is a big increase. but 0 on ur actual damage is really a bummer

[hazy steeple]

The base damage is the least useful stat there, the dtooc would've been nice, but that CHC (crit chance) increase is honestly great.
Now you can tweak the gun mods with more CHD (crit damage), and maybe even remove CHC mods if you have them on your build itself.

[teal ibex]

this is my OD bleed build with tinkerer.

[hazy steeple]

I went proto on my mk46 striker setup, and had to remove all but one of the mods from my gun and was still at the 60 cap.

[teal ibex]

didnt check my striker version yet tho so. plus the gloves has 1 wrong stat XD

[teal ibex]

striker tinkerer. 2nd one is striker overdogs

[hazy steeple]

Noice.

[teal ibex]

funny to see that my tinkerer has more crit dmg lol

[teal ibex]

tbh im thinking of switching from echo to amalgam. these random status effects are like a blessing :S

[hazy steeple]

I love some of the other options for proto for sure, but fully understand why people are focused so heavily on Echo.

[teal ibex]

ddouble dip damage which i get. but heres the thing since update.
they raised % of augments. didnt fully check if amalgam between them but still

i think more about it like this.
u want dps and get hit?> echo
u wants dps and free stun?>amalgam

and i mean triggering amalgam on a gr9 with frenzy is a breeze xD

[smoky latch]

You can also graduate from university, marry, have kids and retire before the ammo box is empty when Frenzy is not active :p

[upper yew]

does swap speed on the 3rd slot increase both deploy and holstering speed ? or just for deploying the gun that has the swap speed attribute

[teal ibex]

yeaaaaaaaaaa i still need that reload tho

[lone violet]

whats his build too bad cant be used in escal

[subtle bluff]

same

[teal ibex]

bin a while. sup?👀

[subtle bluff]

lunch

[onyx sage]

swap speed only affects swapping away from the weapon

[cloud sluice]

Anyone know how Huddle works on Measured Assembly with overcharge, Is it triggered automatically? 🤔

[uneven sleet]

I'm missing hollow man mask and lexington but this build is good?

[lost wren]

what's that mask doing there lol

[onyx sage]

if you don't have hollow man then just use ceska mask

[uneven sleet]

dont mind that mask it was just there for no reason

[lost wren]

ah

as dien said if no hollow man run ceska

[onyx sage]

are you trying to do t10 escalation? if not then just use equalizer chest, and even then i don't recommend switching off of equalizer

[uneven sleet]

yeah i want to, but everybody i join keeps saying my build isnt enough

[onyx sage]

the hollow man build is really only useful in escalation and only when you have a lot of proto

[uneven sleet]

yeah ik hollow man build is only useful on its proto version

[onyx sage]

the biggest change you can do right now is switching bluescreen to a frenzy lmg, like mk46, gr9 or negev

straight up can just use the equalizer overdogs version and do it

[uneven sleet]

ive got these one too, but idk which guns to run

[onyx sage]

elmo and frenzy lmg

don't use m60 here

[uneven sleet]

mk46 frenzy and chc right

[onyx sage]

yeah

[subtle bluff]

And note this is for escalations. If you're doing general PvE this isn't the build you need.

[uneven sleet]

what would you get for general pve?

[onyx sage]

equalizer might make mk46 reload too fast and you might miss frenzy if you stay on the gun btw, if you wanna be safe after you empty frenzy mag switch to pistol before going back to it

i mean you can use it for general pve too tbh

you just don't have a need to use frenzy as much

[uneven sleet]

ive got contractor's gloves too are they useful for builds?

[onyx sage]

not really

i mean you can use its proto version if you have it but it's not worth using in most content because the effective armor enemies have aren't that much to justify

[dry gate]

Can you get a Lexington from the proto AR cache by chance?

[smoky latch]

No

[vernal wing]

You can get it to randomly drop from escalation

[smoky latch]

Also no

[dry gate]

No way

[vernal wing]

@hazy steeple isn’t this one of the named Proto drops?

[smoky latch]

OMG

@patent fossil

[smoky latch]

No it is not

[void steppe]

Hey folks, it's been a shit while since I last played. Isthis a decent buuild for a burnbuild?
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MwNgtAjATG4AyQCyThMCPq5nAuCAHJDBGicGAKwCc2dO9uIy0dEFEiMDPjlH3ekN55KlYsMkj0uSmlbTFjKAHYVWaBShxw29dqIjcUVVhC0lGfCHhhqgy7hX5xEWibBRbeD4gSJveiA

[smoky latch]

Event items are excluded from dropping

[vernal wing]

Do you have confirmation on this or are you assuming?

[smoky latch]

I do but I cannot disclose it here

So don't give ppl false hopes 😂

[vernal wing]

All I need to know

[vernal wing]

I had 3 separate people in here tell me they had Lexington drop in Escalation.

[smoky latch]

People claim all kinds of shit lol

[vernal wing]

I know but I remember riven being one of them

But I’m happy to be wrong instead of unlucky 😂

[onyx sage]

that was syscor I'm pretty sure

[smoky latch]

DZ stuff can drop prototyped, yes

[vernal wing]

So hollow man?

[smoky latch]

In theory, yes

[onyx sage]

can drop as proto yes

[smoky latch]

In reality, lmao

[mint axle]

I'm a witness and I can confirm DZ stuff can drop on escalation if you are lucky enough.

[smoky latch]

Just pointless 😄

[vernal wing]

Love skill haste Gift and HazPro Hollowman

[smoky latch]

Come next season prototype gear is not going to be working in the actual DZ, right?

[broken flax]

It doesn't right now, or am I mistaken?

[smoky latch]

Correct but I'm asking for S2

[broken flax]

Ah, with the pvedz right?

[smoky latch]

I asked for the actual DZ 😄

Not the normalized DZ, not the PvE DZ

[broken flax]

I figure not, it already is an issue just existing, but idk

[smoky latch]

Yeah IDK anymore what funky ideas will be set live

[broken flax]

"Due to popular feedback, prototype gear will drop in the PVEDZ while only cores will be available in the Invaded DZ, as a consolation, prototype gear will be active in the Invaded DZ as well."

[weary condor]

This might be a dumb question but how do I get 20 as a base for my modules in the season mods, I think I’m at 12 base right now

[smoky latch]

Level up the modifiers

[uneven sleet]

which mods would you use in mk46?

[onyx sage]

chc unless capped then chd, gunner pouch (50 rounds)

[uneven sleet]

wdym by capped

[broken flax]

Crit chance caps at 60%

[uneven sleet]

ohh

[broken flax]

Past that you Need chd

[uneven sleet]

bet

[subtle bluff]

To be simple with MA whenever you’d hit “7 Skill Tier” it would OC you (Of course if you have it on CD it won’t)

[subtle bluff]

It’s not great maybe “fun” for some players for Burn EP is better. For Status Effects and this event OD is better.

[void steppe]

👍

Would you mind helpingme tweak it to be as optimized as it can be for a burnbuildthen? I haven't touched the game since Brooklyn came out

and that was only for a month

[subtle bluff]

What do you mean? Your build or A build?

[exotic talon]

i got a max red core firm handshake
this is a sign from the game that my stupid ridgeway hf build is worth investing in

[hallow forge]

holy moly 🥹

thanks for all yall help man 🥹

[weary condor]

How?

[smoky latch]

Have them equipped and active while you do stuff and kill NPCs

[weary condor]

And that’s just the big ones up top or all of the passives too?

[smoky latch]

Just the main ones

[cloud sluice]

Ok thanks, So having BTSU gloves with MA wouldn't work then? 🤔

[subtle bluff]

I'm very specific with what I said. BTSU is different

[cloud sluice]

Still learning skill builds as I've spent the last 11 months playing with blue and red so only started using yellow for escalation

[subtle bluff]

For +T5 really it's only FI for support builds.

[hazy hull]

What's the best set for a critical hit build or is it just strikers

[solar sable]

There are multiple builds that use crits as a base and are often called DPS builds.
Examples are OD, Nego, CoCo, HF, Striker's, High-End...

[hazy hull]

Basically I just want get critical hit damage as high as possible

[solar sable]

What's your build?

[subtle bluff]

You really just mean high DPS you can get right?

[hazy hull]

Nope don't care about DPS just wanna see how ridiculous critical hits can get

[subtle bluff]

Or are you just looking for something fun ish that makes big numbers? even tho it's in th end doing the most Dmg over time.

4x TS, PGC and Overdogs

[exotic talon]

probably something with rifles, maybe diamondback so you dont need crit chance attributes

[solar sable]

Without any exploits, around 2.5mil.

[hazy hull]

Gotcha

[subtle bluff]

m60, CHC w/Measured

[hazy hull]

Big numbers go boom

[subtle bluff]

I mean one shots do more and do more booms..

[hazy hull]

Hence why I like shotguns but yea Just the Idea of casually dropping over 2 million in damage just sounds fun even if DPS is shit

[solar sable]

OD rifles can hit for big numbah.

[subtle bluff]

You said Crit...

[subtle bluff]

You're right!

[hazy hull]

Yea exactly 2 million in critical hit damage

[exotic talon]

i gotta grind OD so i can stop using striker with scorpio for the GE

[hazy hull]

OD honestly is so fun

[solar sable]

Not gonna explain what this is.

Just gonna say that it was fun trying although it didn't make it to any extremely difficult content.

I'm intrigued...

[subtle bluff]

I mean currently it is..

[hazy hull]

I could imagine because you're basically doing one big blast then just stop for like 5 minutes

[smoky latch]

Be gone, devil

[solar sable]

It has its thing 🥴

[hazy hull]

What revolver is that

[subtle bluff]

reggie

Don't ask me to spell it

[solar sable]

Reguajhgsdasdklajdlus
or something like that

[smoky latch]

Regulator

[hazy hull]

Chill

[opal jackal]

Regulus, you can get the blueprint and parts needed via the Iron Horse raid.

[hybrid leaf]

Yay finally got proto weapons worth keeping

Famas 2010 with CHD (not ideal but whatever) and back and forth talent

And Gear Shift

[subtle bluff]

what's the point of it then..

[lost wren]

peak

[subtle bluff]

10-15% Dmg it's not doing.

[subtle bluff]

No sir... This is rather mid.. I could do better when I was playing more.

The better avg player has a better clip

[lost wren]

i was replying to the “regular” image

i should honestly be using hhf regulus more

[subtle bluff]

OOh.. right it's pointed to that.

[lost wren]

right now i have 6 pve builds

rifle headhunter
striker’s fury
negotiator’s dilemma
hhf regulus
tipping scales
future initiative

thought tipping scales would be interesting but i might replace it with something else idk

[hybrid leaf]

I mean it isn't dttoc but it still suits my. Build

[subtle bluff]

Normal version 0 exp will lil more stil

[hybrid leaf]

?

[solar sable]

The non-proto version with the right attributes will do more than a proto with bad rolls.

[hybrid leaf]

Is CHD really that bad

[solar sable]

Not that much but if you're CHC starved then yes, a bit.

[hybrid leaf]

Naw my chc 60 🙂

[solar sable]

ah, CHD?

[hybrid leaf]

120

[solar sable]

I'm assuming no proto gear at all?

[hybrid leaf]

All proto lmao but it's trash

Was only playing T3 at the time strikers was in rotation so all the CHC rolls are quite low

T10 drops much better gear damn

[weary condor]

how do I get the credits to buy modules?

[hybrid leaf]

(weap damage +147.9)

[smoky latch]

SHINY - I NEED

[weary condor]

what is my best in slot AR for striker techtank if I cant get lex

[subtle bluff]

+800 rpm w/DTTooC and up to you Killer, Flatline or Measured

[weary condor]

whats DTTooC

[smoky latch]

Damge to target out of cover

[weary condor]

not crit chance?

[solar sable]

For anything that's not LMGs, yes.

[hallow forge]

anyone has a build for the thorn shotgun?

[smoky latch]

You don't build around a weapon, you use them to complement a build.
Check the Hunter's Fury guide which is in the pinned spreadsheet that's linked in this channel

[weary condor]

when is the next time I could get a lexington?

[solar sable]

Next week.

[weary condor]

how?

[void steppe]

Sprry for the delayed response , i meant a build that surrounds the burn status effect

[oak wing]

eclipse protocol set is the best you'll get for a fire build, it spreads on kill which is very fun

I prefer survivalist specialization so my whole team gets damage to status effected enemies (and you get fire grenades)

[opal jackal]

Stretch goals, there will be caches with the chances. It starts June 2 https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/news-updates/7fGyZXxoSznwnFe68MG8cE/tuy8s13-rise-up-stretch-goals-climax-mission-fixes

[outer agate]

what are some other good options for assault rifles to use with heartbreaker

[void steppe]

preciate it

[void steppe]

Somethin like this?

I used to run thisa lot of the time

[livid sorrel]

police m4, p416, famas

[oak wing]

yeah that's a good start! I'll sometimes use blinder firefly as my secondary if I want a bit of defensive status effect (better than bleed, I wouldn't recommend striker hive really). Can also just run a heal hive to keep yourself up since you're 6 skill tier

st elmo's is decent (can be hard to get stacks up though), bluescreen or iron lung LMGs are good too

[void steppe]

thats not striker hive thats just the revive one

[oak wing]

ohhh okay that's fine too

[outer agate]

well the famas cant use the linked laser pointer

[livid sorrel]

overdogs works for fire ep too

[void steppe]

ya know i never used overdogs

[livid sorrel]

oh right

[outer agate]

im thinking just lexington lol

[oak wing]

another weapon option to maximize fire damage is a shotgun with damage to armor + damage to targets out of cover (both work on fire damage) + In Sync talent. I use an SASG-12 for high fire rate

[livid sorrel]

lexington is pretty much just a police m4 with 5% more weapon damage

[silent storm]

For shotgun Head Hunter build with Hunter's Fury should I go HF Gloves and Vigilance or Memento? Or use the HF Backpack?

[lost wren]

first

[lone violet]

any other strong set up besides FI or stiker for high escal?

[lost wren]

tipping scales ig, but other than that it's just FI or striker

[void steppe]

lol speakl of the devil i just got that in countdown

[subtle bluff]

We have a better guide in the build hub

[subtle bluff]

As mentioned above

A bit more detailed guide explains and shows both versions.

[oak wing]

that's cool, just an old picture I had on hand as a starting point

[ember roost]

My main build for general play is the Big Al with Negotiators Dilemma. Lots of people use gear shift but I dont care for the gun

[subtle bluff]

The first build I tried with Big AL was ND and did a leggo check and yea it's really good but I do swap it out often I hate beinng stuck to a cover.
People think named and exo weapons are really good even tho they aren't.

[subtle bluff]

That thing is so mixed up on explaining both versions.

The mini guide to support EP

[ember roost]

Uh.. I thought dmgout of cover ment I had to be out if cover... I guess I have been playing it wrong.

[subtle bluff]

um.. I was talking about Big Al talent......

[ember roost]

I read it wrong. It says DMG to target out of cover. and Als talent is being in cover. I have been just kinda playing like Rambo on the overworld map.

I have a striker build, but its needs to be upgraded a bit. I feel like it does less dmg than my ND.

[onyx sage]

to a large extent you're correct, but that gets changed a bit in certain content

[grand girder]

omg the world record for solo zoo legendary is that you

[onyx sage]

you have 5 pieces of striker btw

[hybrid pelican]

Looks like you're missing one piece of striker

[ember roost]

everything is striker except the Overdogs

[wraith zealot]

return of classified set?

[onyx sage]

yo dawg i heard you like striker

[grand girder]

gear sets only need 4 pieces

[ember roost]

True, but I wasn't sure what else was needed for it.

I want to get it up cause I have 2 semi decent prototypes.

[grand girder]

ceska brand is 8% chc, unit alloy is like 5% ROF i believe

[grand girder]

plus you get an extra attribute on a high end piece

[ember roost]

I have both pieces. Just need to be upgraded a bit

So I am not if I should trade out the chest or the backpack

Any recommendations?

[livid sorrel]

I'd use equalizer, striker chest isn't useful outside escalation and striker backpack is too good to replace

[ember roost]

Thank you! So when going to do escalations I would need to use Striker chest

[livid sorrel]

You can use it at t5 and above, below that just stick to equalizer

[ember roost]

And St Elmos is still good with Lexi?

[solar sable]

Two weapons of the same type when Tinkerer isn't involved isn't recommended.

[subtle bluff]

There's a striker guide and escalation guide and section you may want to read up on

[ember roost]

I will check that out. I was just concerned since last night I read the wrong stuff.

[hybrid leaf]

Ooh I got a proto Lud and a proto Famas 2010 w/ Killer

[sudden cloak]

So i wanted to try out HHF and this is what I came up with, first time using the build, shotguns are there for expertise, I don't have regulus for it though

[onyx sage]

that's good

[sudden cloak]

I have the gift, would that be better than the 2pc walker

[subtle bluff]

You normally the SWD for the main weapon your gonna be using.

[sudden cloak]

Ah, so i want a D&H chest piece then

[flint arch]

no, D&H backpack

not having perfect headhunter makes the build up to max hh stacks more annoying

[dusk edge]

how's bulldog for hotshot?

i know the gift is viable (the better bag in my inventory atm) but is bulldog good too?

[subtle bluff]

wait what?

Gift?

[dusk edge]

yeah? for hotshot?

[subtle bluff]

No...

[dusk edge]

the one with perfect vigilance?

[solar sable]

It works but HH doesn't benefit from HSD.

[dusk edge]

HH determined?

[solar sable]

Bulldog... from what brand is that?

[flint arch]

iirc royal

[solar sable]

Ew.

[dusk edge]

royal

it just randomly dropped in the open world with godrolled HSD and CHC so i figured what would be good for this bag as i'm def not throwing it away

[dusk edge]

ah. so the gift in ikia's build is nulled. alright

[subtle bluff]

idk.. I don't look at all iKia stuff.

[dusk edge]

figures

[subtle bluff]

It works. It's just not the best.

[solar sable]

Nah, if it comes from iKia it has a reason it's that way. He knows- used to know how.

[subtle bluff]

I don't like sharing his stuff to new players because they generally don't understand it.

[dusk edge]

i thought HH scaled from dmg. the more i learn

[solar sable]

From Weapon DMG, not HSD.

[dusk edge]

oh. yeah

[subtle bluff]

hmm....

You can see on the build he has it correct

[dusk edge]

i still need to get a better airaldi bag that's for sure

[subtle bluff]

I dislike this in the sense of no context. It's good don't get me wrong.

[dusk edge]

it's for the ease of access i guess

kinda like a "just copy the build. don't worry about anything else", and then only the detailed descriptions for those agents that want to know more of the nitty-gritty side of things

[solar sable]

Yeah, a lot of players only care about the build and not the in depth explanation. That's why we usually skip explaining to newbies.

[subtle bluff]

I get that, that's why I say it works fine.

[lost wren]

control point farm build

pretty much

[subtle bluff]

I wouldn't suggest White Death for that.

[lost wren]

oh really?

what mmr would you suggest

[solar sable]

SR-1 with big mag is my pick. But M700 Carbon is the other.

[lost wren]

ah yeah, should've suspected

[molten thorn]

I feel like the build titled "SB Obli OverD AR" is going down more often with gunner than it was with the flamethrower specialization when I used it. am I just being weird? it's like objectively a build with better survivability.

[molten thorn]

I've heard Handbasket is real good like recently (I think in here) but I'm speaking on secondhand knowledge rn

[lost wren]

never heard of it
new mmr or?

[molten thorn]

it was an easter event exclusive that you can still get from houndsman

[solar sable]

not that new, it's a semi auto MMR

[subtle bluff]

It's Named.

[subtle bluff]

The slowest one

[molten thorn]

but doesn't it also hit almost as hard as the boltys? like why were people calling it out specifically?

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't do as much.

[solar sable]

Named items are always done dirty 😔

[lost wren]

for headhunter builds though i run this, replaced hotshot stuff and mmrs for now

[subtle bluff]

better version

[lost wren]

more total dmg?

[subtle bluff]

No.

[lost wren]

oh
what makes it better

[subtle bluff]

better starting

[lost wren]

ah

[subtle bluff]

I have tested some where..

[lost wren]

right because of 3 piece breaking point

[subtle bluff]

If anyone wanted Lengmo farm Krampusancht is targeted for it.

[buoyant perch]

This has way higher damage than Chow's version.

[subtle bluff]

Foxes Peaks higher, 3pc BP has better stacking.

[lost wren]

there's a part of me that wants to keep using this but also another that just wants to go back to 4 piece hotshot for convenience

and then another part of me that realizes i should just be using hhf regulus instead

what specialization do you use with hhf regulus again? technician or firewall?

[subtle bluff]

both work

[lost wren]

hmm

[subtle bluff]

more dmg or tougher shield and decoy

[lost wren]

mainly asking so i can allocate the weapon category buffs for my specializaations accordingly

[buoyant perch]

Sharpshooter works too for the Tac-50. It's a matter of preference.

[subtle bluff]

I have 2 HF proto I haven't tried it out yet

[lost wren]

i only have one hf proto lol

[desert crane]

Striker and HeartBreaker which good for pve LMG build guys ?

[solar sable]

Strikers.

[flint arch]

Striker

[desert crane]

6pcs or just 4 pcs and get another ?

[flint arch]

Only 4pcs

You never want more than 4pcs for any gear set, they don't do anything beyond 4pcs

[desert crane]

so Strikers 4 pcs and 2pcs with HBR or any set for LMG ?

[onyx cypress]

Any body have great vile mask build I can use I really need a status effect build

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=sharing

[subtle bluff]

EP
Guide is in the Build Hub.

-# if you dunno where that is go to the Pinned Messages.

[soft crane]

No, the most common way to set up a build is to use 4 pieces of gearset, 1 brandset, and 1 exotic.

4 pieces of gearset may or may not include chest or backpack pieces.

[soft crane]

Hmmmm

• 4 pieces of Strikers which includes chest and backpack pieces

• Turmoil Kneepads

• Tinkerer exotic mask

You'll end up with 7 active talents when firing.

Nuff said

🚶‍♂️‍➡️

[teal ibex]

why turmoil👀

[soft crane]

The point of that build is to have as many talents as possible.

[teal ibex]

oke fair lol

[soft crane]

Only your holster and gloves dont have talents.

[steady garnet]

What would be better for a three piece Ninjabike Heartbreaker Techtank - 2 Unit Alloy for 20% AR damage, fire rate and 50% mag size or 1 UA for AR dmg and ROF and one Walker and Harris for plus 5% weapon and armor damage? Sry if its chaotic, couldnt write it better