td2-build-advice

[soft crane]

yeh

[hybrid arrow]

All right! Cool! Thanks! That definitely lets me delete some builds and stash some things

[hazy steeple]

Only viable in Escalation?

[soft crane]

The Strikers chest? Yeah. Not exactly needed in any other.

[smoky latch]

Heroic CD and the incursion would like a word

[hazy steeple]

@hybrid arrow Jayko is mistaken, it's not an "only in escalation" thing.

@smoky latch Yep, and also sorta in bits of the Raid.
Oh and Legendary.

[smoky latch]

Eh

[soft crane]

Well alright my bad. You guys go on against each other now hhhhhhhhhhhh

[smoky latch]

Raid, okay, parts of it

[hazy steeple]

Yeah I'm not sold on the Raid bit myself, but I know if I don't say it, someone will get narky.

but regardless: "only in escalation" is just not true. It's not even that true for lower Tier Escalation.

[smoky latch]

Nobody goes against anyone, it's just about relaying fitting info

[soft crane]

ok fine

[hazy steeple]

Misinformation is a genuine problem in div2, as it's so "mathy", a small mistake can snowball a build into a total mess.

A good example is Pesti w/ status builds.

[hybrid leaf]

Guys i'm so dumb. I didn't realise you could proc bluescreen by using a skill lmfao

Always got annoyed when people poached my kills and thus missed out on the CC

[livid sorrel]

you can proc it by dropping a hive and picking it back up lol

[hybrid leaf]

So I learned today hahahaha was experimenting with an alternative TS build (I usually do tinkerer)

Also got big alejandro, not sure how I feel about it though... What is the god roll? health damage? I couldn't seem to find a damage to armour roll

[lone wadi]

crit chance

[subtle bluff]

CHC... It has no weapon mods

[hybrid leaf]

ahhhhh bums! I re-rolled several times away from chc >.<

[flint arch]

lmgs want chc

[neon lion]

I'm hearing that somehow Huntsman is amazing super duper shreds and compare to lex with measured burst dps yeah? But it still fall short to m249/mk46 frenzy am I going crazy or can I just ignore it

[subtle bluff]

yes and no....

Where are you "hearing" this from? Reddit?

[neon lion]

Yeag

[subtle bluff]

Run how Frenzy works first off.

There's a lot of brainrot on reddit for div

[livid sorrel]

going off numbers alone it does beat lex measured IF frenzy is active

[subtle bluff]

I avoid it for my health

[neon lion]

Mmmh I see, I should try that too. Ty

[livid sorrel]

i wouldn't take it to escalation but it's fine otherwise

[neon lion]

Yeah I like huntsman for famas anime skin but theres better options specially on high tier escal

[subtle bluff]

If you can your mag size with it too lil over 100 it'd pretty damn good

[livid sorrel]

3 striker 2 ua nbb

[neon lion]

oh no

anyway ty for confirmation, I should avoid reddit for my mental health if it wasn't for misinformation

[hybrid leaf]

Lexington feels so horrible after St Elmos

[livid sorrel]

elmo handling carries it ngl

[iron moat]

bluescreen, 4p Tipping Scales, Ceska chest with Obliterate, and Coyote Mask. All red cores.

At 60% crit chance and 110+% crit dmg. found this pretty new to endgame and buildcrafting is it worth getting or is there a better bluescreen build

[subtle bluff]

Overdogs over Cyote or anything that gives Crit.

[livid sorrel]

i'd just do the ol equalizer overdogs

[subtle bluff]

You do not need more Crit with TS.

[iron moat]

thanks

[hybrid leaf]

Overdogs make me feel so sad when I have to prioritise a target that's outside of the rank structure lmao

If sawyers kneepads were red-rolled I'd run them all day

[ivory pawn]

How could I get more crit damage on this

Without losing crit chance

[gentle lichen]

Getting a double crit holster would be a starter

[ivory pawn]

What is one I can get

[gentle lichen]

Otherwise it's gonna be your weapon choice like lex with killer and levelling up your shd

[hybrid leaf]

I'd go for overdogs tbh given it's CHC + CHD

and replace the holster with strikers

[ivory pawn]

What if I don’t have those gloves

[hybrid leaf]

@ivory pawn Coyotes mask?

[ivory pawn]

Something like that

[smoky latch]

Get a different chest piece/different talent asap

[reef scroll]

What will be a good build for the PVE Dark Zone that can handle multiple rogues and also clear landmarks quickly?

[smoky latch]

Take a look in #td2-pvp-discussions , that channel is more for PvP

[ivory pawn]

Like obliterate

[spiral elm]

for the sake of dps should i run the striker chest for higher stacks or perfect obliterate?

[smoky latch]

Depends on the activity

[spiral elm]

say escalation

[hazy steeple]

@spiral elm Striker chest is only really useful when the enemy has really high health pools, like in the Incursion, high-tier Escalation, stuff like that.
Anything else: Equaliser is better.

Say Tier 5 esca, I wouldn't bother running Striker Chest.

[spiral elm]

tbh anywhere else im using my breaking point stuff

wouldnt bother running equalizer?

[hazy steeple]

edited for clarity.

[spiral elm]

seeing a lot of builds not run overdogs w striker to whats that masks name doffy had on in that pic

[ivory pawn]

Coyote

[subtle bluff]

Because people are dumb TBH.

They dont' wanna read it or learn it.

[spiral elm]

i mean coyote seems good for dps and team play

im just usually solo

[junior lagoon]

What i am baffled is noone even mentioned mk-46 with frenzy until toasty made a video and since then everybody is like " that was always the case"

[spiral elm]

what kinda weapon is that?

[junior lagoon]

Lmg

[neon lion]

I remenber Ikia's old huntsman video went over frenzy in general and mk46/m249 but it only has hit 4.1k view

[smoky latch]

This is so true

Before the MK46 trend it was the Gr9

[subtle bluff]

I have but the reload killed me in leggo

[smoky latch]

You're under contract with H&K cuz you promote the MG5 so much 😄

[lost wren]

gr9 frenzy was a good secondary to have to clear large spawn groups iirc

still has the highest potential for frenzy, it's still very strong
mk46 is just more comfy to use as an actual primary

[barren mica]

Does diamondback work well with the gear set that marks enemies when you crit and spreads 60% of the damage when you crit a marked enemy?

[subtle bluff]

Nego yes but it’s more of a fun build.

[barren mica]

Yeah for sure, what pieces would you use for the two off-set pieces?

Overdogs and something else maybe?

And is it feasible to kill all of the marked enemies with the 60% damage from the set?

[slate basin]

Negotiators Dilemma Backback buffs the transfer to 112% IIRC, standard picks for off pieces as far as I'm aware are Overdogs and Equalizer named Unit Alloys Chest or Ceska Chest with Obliterate.

[barren mica]

I have both, so that's perfect! What about chainkiller though? Or is it better to stack the crit damage?

I assumed headshot would be good in conjunction with the crit stuff

[gentle lichen]

112%*

[slate basin]

Thanks for correction, just remembered it being over 100% and 2 existing in the number

[slate basin]

In damage calculation Crit damage and Headshot damage are additive with each other, and Negotiators only transfers critical hits anyway so focusing on Crit damage is generally adviced

[buoyant magnet]

Why do some people only rock 2/3 skill cores with capacitor? Wouldn’t all 6 be more beneficial?

[subtle bluff]

Only if you need the Skill Cores for Skills.

[soft crane]

I keep forgetting to ask.

[soft crane]

Weapon Damage is additive whereas Total weapon damage and Amplified weapon damage are multiplicative?

[subtle bluff]

Yes. AMP is always a new number. TWD add together to be multplicative.

[fervent raft]

Is this any good. Been playing for about 2 weeks and saw some video on it but I want a 2nd opinion. So far its been decent especially with the higher stacks

[solar sable]

several things are wrong

1. Strikers Chest is not ideal outside of Escalations, Heroic Countdown and Incursion.
2. Ninjabike is trash in PVE, it nerfs you and leaves you without a string bag talent.
3. Don't use Youtube for build advice, it's full of clickbait.

Read our Lvl40 Starters Guide for the actually good stuff.

[fervent raft]

Mmmm okay ty

The video i watched was from a guy playing escalations so that makes sense lol

I have overdogs should I run those instead?

[subtle bluff]

General PvE and +T5 and incursion builds are different.

[solar sable]

Way better.

[sour steeple]

what ? your build for escalations ??

[subtle bluff]

That's not even good in escalation.

[fervent raft]

I've cleared t3 thats it

[solar sable]

anything can clear T0-4

[subtle bluff]

You should be able to run thru heroics.

[fervent raft]

I can yea its not difficult at all

So I should swap the bag for a striker bag, the chest for a ua one, and the gloves for overdogs unless im doing incursions?

[solar sable]

yes

just follow the guide

[solar sable]

also

[hybrid arrow]

I'm making an open world clearer with turmoil..if I'm gonna use pesty should I run sacrifice? I have an equalizer too

Gonna go with turmoil knees overdogs and 3 legmo with backbone

Cuz then that 30% applies to the tick of pestilence from sacrifice

[neat panther]

Can anyone explain to me why I keep getting kicked from groups when doing escalation? I get comments like this”Dave you got a real build?” Or “No HeartBreaker Loser” Why? Whats the big deal? I never noticed so much toxicity until prototype builds.

[last cove]

Might be just mean I guess

[solar sable]

Thing is, anything that's not TS, Strikers or FI will be seen as a non-ideal build. People want to reduce their clear times by running the meta and asking others if they KWTD.

[neat panther]

I can’t run higher tiers with this build. I usually run tier 5 or less with this build. And I still get kicked. I survive. I pick teammates up. I do decent damage. I don’t get it for such low tier content.

[solar sable]

Plus, Exodus in groups is painful for the team. That will get your teammates killed.

[neat panther]

How?

[solar sable]

Aggro gets taken away from you and that's what kills them.

Exodus should only be used for solo.

Armor based builds won't survive any more longer than all red DPS in Escalation. That's a truth some players need to understand.

[neat panther]

So because other agents don’t pay attention my exodus gloves get me in trouble? I’m confused 😕

[solar sable]

It's not about paying attention, read Exodus' talent. You get out of combat thus you don't pull any more aggro until you start doing DMG again or get involved in combat.

[neat panther]

I honestly think it’s because it’s not a prototype build. If this build was maxed out prototype and all shiny and blue…people wouldn’t have a problem. It’s just toxic players being bullies and thinking this game was made for them.

[solar sable]

Prototype is not a necessity.

[smoky latch]

Wrong POV

[barren mica]

Well if the group expects for aggro to be pretty evenly distributed, then you not picking up "your aggro" means they have more to deal with. Then if you also on top of that don't do as much damage as them, it's hard to justify your spot on the team no?

[solar sable]

If you had a regular strikers build you would do better and won't get your teammates killed.

[smoky latch]

You have to understand that in high tier Escalations only a select few builds including variants are actually effective. You farm those activities, so you wanna do it quick. Anything that does not fit the meta is therefore not really accepted

[solar sable]

Exodus player: -gets shot at, armor breaks, smoke cloud blinds teammates, aggro gets instantly pulled to teammates, teammates die-

That's the logic here.

[neat panther]

Ok I put on Overdogs and all my problems go away?

[smoky latch]

No, HB is not the right set

[solar sable]

At least half, yes, HB takes the other 50%.

[smoky latch]

Just go with non-proto Striker's

[barren mica]

I didn't even know it created a smoke cloud lol, that sounds terrible

[smoky latch]

Overdogs or Ceska gloves is ideal

I say gloves so you can easily switch it you wanted to

[neat panther]

My armor HARDLY breaks. And I do not do any high tier content with this build.

[solar sable]

then why use them if you're not benefiting from them entirely?

[smoky latch]

HB is just meh for that activity

[neat panther]

Safety I guess

[solar sable]

Not to be bold or sound like a bully, but most safety measures in Escalation come from good positioning.

[neat panther]

I’ve never even done a tier 6 with this build. And my positioning is pretty spot on. I’ve got over 4K hours in the game. I play it like it’s a drug. I know the game in every way.

[subtle bluff]

If a build and player isn't just able to run thru heroics it's not gonna do well at high Tier.

[barren mica]

I don't mean to pick a fight or bully or anything like it, but this was your original question and it doesn't seem like you're accepting the answers you're getting

[neat panther]

No I fully understand. I just don’t think the hate is that deserved for lower tier content. I get it…gloves bad…switch gloves…run better “meta” builds.

[subtle bluff]

The thing is at high Tier things need to die fast due to how much HP and DMG they do. I team will normally fail due to lack of dmg.

Because you will get overran and nothing can tank at that scaling.

[neat panther]

I clear heroic content just fine with this. Does nobody understand……..I HAVE NOT RUN HIGH TIER CONTENT with this build.

[last cove]

Highest tier?

[neat panther]

5

[last cove]

You’re like right on the edge of the required all red build

[smoky latch]

I guess it trickles down to lower tiers and people have the same expectations

[barren mica]

It might be the case that the people running the lower tier content with you, can manage to get through normally with the more optimized builds but start to struggle because they haven't yet learned to play well enough to progress beyond them, but idk

[last cove]

Like the first couple tier is like heroic but a little tougher

[neat panther]

EXACTLY! Lower tier content and other players expect you to run better builds

[subtle bluff]

When I mean run I mean sprint thru it.

[smoky latch]

People are also sensitive with their tokens in the current system

[subtle bluff]

If you want to run your build you start group for the reason mentioned above.

[subtle bluff]

🤢

[last cove]

Ewww

Almost gave me cancer

[neat panther]

lol this is what someone suggested to me

[last cove]

My build looks worst because I’m still working it out

[subtle bluff]

Listening to the wrong people.

[neat panther]

DPS or nothing….sad face

[subtle bluff]

There's only 1 piece that's good on that refactor build..

[last cove]

You gotta be all DPS

[subtle bluff]

I mean there are support builds.

[last cove]

You gotta out damage the damage

If yall can suggest anything to replace the mask im open to suggestions

[subtle bluff]

This maybe a good time for me to redo my mini refactor build

[neat panther]

I have a full measured assembly build but I don’t know. I stand in my ground that the negativity I get for my stupid heartbreaker build is pointless. Especially with the low tier content I’m doing.

[last cove]

Might can’t replace the mask

[subtle bluff]

Scaling....

[dusk edge]

what does "Stab" mean?

[subtle bluff]

I'll be honest your HB isn't even that good imo.

[exotic talon]

drop the salvo, find a hollow man mask or overdogs
switch out sweet dreams for an lmg, big al and iron lung are great if you want it to stay exotic

[smoky latch]

Stability

[subtle bluff]

Weapon mods stability

[last cove]

I got a hollow but I kind want overdogs too but I wouldn’t have striker if I did that I think

[dusk edge]

ah! sorry. idk why i didn't guess that immediately haha. thanks

[subtle bluff]

HB should be able to do this. @neat panther

[smoky latch]

🔪

[last cove]

Also I refuse to use LMGS

[dusk edge]

WD is weapon damage no?

[last cove]

OH GOTTA FARM STRIKERS AGAIN GREAT

[exotic talon]

shotguns are also pretty good but definitely not sweet dreams

[last cove]

Boomstick?

[exotic talon]

hell no lmfao
one of the acs12 named weapons or something pump action with pummel

[last cove]

Pump action=KSG

[subtle bluff]

KSG my love.

I miss my six12.... 🥲

[summer totem]

Ditch the salvo use overdogs 100%

[last cove]

Oh I was already

I just gotta get the gear

Gotta terrorize constitution hall first

[summer totem]

Rn im using tinkerer, racking up more damage than i did when i had overdogs, the priority talent hassling for me

[dusk edge]

is this decent enough until i get the right backpack? i'm thinking of swapping to Breaking Point for the holster instead

this won't be thee Hotshot build for me off

[exotic talon]

i know this is ragebait so why am i still mad

[dusk edge]

this was my OG build before moving to Strikers lmao. i haven't gotten back to properly building it

[exotic talon]

ditch the breaking point piece, switch to airaldi backpack with vigilance, put on overdogs

[dusk edge]

yeah. that's why i'm gonna go and farm for the backpack. i haven't gotten that bag yet

[subtle bluff]

NBB..... 😐

[dusk edge]

kachow

[subtle bluff]

Anything with Vig will have you doing more.

and overdogs

[dusk edge]

i'm forced to lug the horror of a build that i've made when i first started the game

i'm ready to let go of NBB and return to Overdogs once i get Airaldi

3pc Hotshot + Overdogs

[dusk edge]

oh wait no

oh autocorrect lmao sorry

[dusk edge]

i'm aiming for that. thanks

[barren mica]

Anyone have a reference for what the negotiators mark looks like when applied to an enemy? I'm struggling to find marked enemies

[subtle bluff]

You shouldn't need to look for ND mark

[livid sorrel]

I don't even think about shooting an already marked enemy, I just move to another target, it's still damage

[hazy steeple]

Speaking as someone in a "you have a poor connection to the server" kinda region, it's worth knowing the stuff that you shouldn't need to keep an eye on.

[gentle lichen]

This might also be a latency issue but i never get max obliterate stacks even though i KNOW i hit more than 24 crits in a full lex mag
I compared this to shooting semi auto and account for each crit i was able to get to max through half to 2/3 of a lex mag

[barren mica]

So just treat it as a thing that sometimes makes some enemies die and sometimes I will see it happen, but most of the time I might not notice?

[gentle lichen]

As long as you crit i'm pretty sure you'll get the mark it's just a matter of the server registering it and sending it to your pc (latency)

[frail saffron]

Suggest me a striker prototype build for my god rolled lexington prototype with strained talent paradox augment. Currently i’m using 2 unit alloy proto gear(mask,equilizer) ,4 striker proto gear.all are with echo augment.CHC is 55 & CHD is 115.

[gentle lichen]

Good enough
You could use the paradox lex with paradox negotiator's
You can also swap 1 echo for amalgam to get nice cc

You can use a proto salvo as well

[smoky latch]

Escalation Guide T5+

[frail saffron]

I’m having god rolled salvo but with paradox talent.

[smoky latch]

Augment*

[dusk edge]

interesting. SR-1 is more stable than TWD when firing, but both of them have maxed Stability. why is that?

[hazy steeple]

Just an FYI, "twd" is mostly used for "total weapon damage". We usually just say "white death" for the MMR.

[dusk edge]

noted. thanks

but yeah, white death usually just flicks to the right whenever i pull the trigger

[subtle bluff]

The top 3 DMG MMRs handles worse the the rest of the MMRs

[dusk edge]

oh. that makes sense :(

[dusk edge]

do i have to reach the 1mil DMG for the MMRs? or would i be alright sitting at around 970k?

[fierce ether]

guys to go solo for escalation in t4 or 5, st telmo is better than mk46?

[soft crane]

no

[hazy steeple]

@fierce ether Guns don't exist in a vacuum, what's the build?

[subtle bluff]

TBH that's something you should figure out on your own.

[dusk edge]

Overdogs found in yet another build. i also learned i haven't extracted any HSD for chest pieces yet so that's gonna be my priority for now. i'd love to stick with white death but god i hate how unstable it is

i've returned with my OG SR-1 and M1A i've been with when i first started playing. Overdogs doing its job with boosting SR-1's DMG too

great build to practice who to target first too. prof Determined first then clear the entire place in less than 30 seconds. i love it

ah shit i just realized i haven't transmogged my holster and kneepads

[open saddle]

@subtle bluff which is better farm proto gear or level up your own

[barren mica]

I use 1886 and white death, white death for when a lot of damage is required, and 1886 for the rest.

[subtle bluff]

There isn’t a better one..
Volume you should just farm your own. The ones you have specific things for Hollowman, Lex, etc you build your own.

[dusk edge]

i use the 1886 too. i prefer more stable guns really

Determined would kill everything in one shot anyways

i do appreciate how fast the 1886 is for reloading tho. what a crazy gun + base DMG that can skyrocket if you've procced the right buffs

nothing will match the high of one-tapping a Named Elite

[barren mica]

I find the biggest issue with white death for me is firerate, it simply can't keep up with the 1886 in a majority of cases I've seen, so I use it only for damage

[subtle bluff]

HH…

[dusk edge]

you're not meant to use it as a fast weapon

you proc Determined and clear the entire place in seconds

[subtle bluff]

There a mix.

[dusk edge]

yeah true but in most encounters the M1A and 1886 can suffice

[subtle bluff]

But you said it. MMR is more DMG basically.

[dusk edge]

idk if it was recently changed or what but i swear you didn't lose Determined even after switching weapons before

[subtle bluff]

There’s no wrong or right way.

You always have…. You only keep talents when the weapon is in hand unless it’s mentioned.

[dusk edge]

right. just misremembering then

[barren mica]

I used to run SOCOM MMR for a bit, which was fine for more stationary play, but the second you start moving and sprinting it's just terrible compared to the 1886

It can to faster group clears though, when it 1-hits. But that's not enough to justify it for me, I haven't tried the G28 though, I considered giving that a shot to see how it feels

[dusk edge]

i got a Handbasket that had maxed stats + Determined minus one attribute (CDMG). i've never been happier with it

the only MMR with bolt-action DMG that doesn't need to put you out of scoping

but i still habitually let go of aiming when shooting so i can aim better

[open saddle]

So proto my max rolls I have doesn't make more sense?

[teal shoal]

New player. Literally just hit level 40 but wanted like a “goal build.” Would Catharsis+Liquid Engineer+4pc Striker be decent?

[normal shadow]

For what purpose? Solo open world stuff? Sure, why not.

[teal shoal]

Ok

[soft crane]

Level 40 Starter Guide

[teal shoal]

Thanks that’s helpful

[calm nebula]

Hi! What's the best weapon for Future Initiative? I'm not using The Setup

This is my build at this moment!

(Ignore my secondary and pistol, Im just leveling them hahahha)

[soft crane]

Whoa 5 pieces, remove one of them.

[calm nebula]

I know, I'm just seeing wich one hahaha, any tips?

[soft crane]

The Setup is backpack, if you're looking for a weapon its Lefty.

[calm nebula]

I have it!

[calm nebula]

I mean that I'm not using that backpack, so I don't have to play with marksman or shotgun, so I don't know witch weapons are the best

[soft crane]

I'd say replace Backpack with Alps summit and the talent is Opportunistic

[soft crane]

Aha!

[calm nebula]

Wow thanks you both!

You don't like to use any marksman with The Setup? Only Shotguns??

For longer distances

[subtle bluff]

It’s slow to use.

It’s a support not a DMG build so shotgun are all you need.

[calm nebula]

Ar! Thank you very, very much! ❤️

[subtle bluff]

Read the guide it explain why these are you used.

[stuck gull]

(alp chest with) emphatic resolve provide a tad more total wep dmg if you don't mind farming that

then you quick swap to btsu gloves for oc whenever it's needed if you don't mind microing a bit

scorpio is basically bis for debuffing but sweet dreams/lullaby is nice to one hit ko any red or purple without dmg resis on escalation

[subtle bluff]

Not really worth it imo vs BTSU and The Setup.
Swapping off BTSU to make it easier to get to birdies having use it sure but BTSU really make it so you can refresh there skills and OC them is just too powerful

I swap between Birdies and Sweet dreams

[stuck gull]

the 5% isn't really that significant but next season we're getting perfect emphatic resolve which is a 10% difference to chest fi

depends if you think it's worth it or not, i usually just use btsu to oc then swap away, so i think the next season chest seems pretty worth it

[subtle bluff]

In some sense its group depended.
I’ll always argue against due to just Global OC and refresh is underrated also losing this current seasonal modifiers is gonna be interesting.

I’ll never do it because I can hotswap from both just fine but that’s a different story.

[fierce ether]

I am running equalizer+overdogs coz if i run solo i do until t4

If i run +5 i switch for striker chest+hollow man mask+overdogs

[languid wasp]

@subtle bluff Would you rather run Contractor Gloves or Fox Prayer if Overdogs is never an option

[subtle bluff]

Ceska

General neither still depends on the content.

[languid wasp]

Wasn't expecting that, for Escalation

[hazy hull]

Is it worth dropping OD and switching to strikers

[languid wasp]

I got Hollow Man, 4 pcs striker

[subtle bluff]

You neeed to add more context to this.

[subtle bluff]

Yup Ceska would be my answer

[languid wasp]

Damn, alright imma do some Roosevelt then

[lone violet]

The new gear set/named items are kinda LL

[hazy hull]

Running a DPS build with ongoing directive currently getting around 1 million on a crit but I'm wondering if I'd get it higher by going Striker.

[subtle bluff]

If you search my name here for video you’ll see a few showcases striker and OD.

[vernal wing]

When is empathetic resolve better than FI?

[exotic talon]

like FI chest or in general

its just not better than FI chest, but on a different healing build its probably close

[silent storm]

They are bringing Perfect Empathic Resolve and it will only have 20% which is sad.

[subtle bluff]

When and if, BTSU gets nerfed.

[silent storm]

How is BTSU getting nerfed?

[buoyant perch]

Never

[junior lagoon]

striker getting nerfed next season ?

[dusk edge]

i already have HSD researched for chest, why can't i put it on my Chainkiller? can't i have two HSDs in one gear?

[hexed steppe]

No, one attribute type per. Youll put hsd and handling on chainkiller

Mod can be anything tho

[west shore]

What build you guys recommend to deal with rogues in escalation?

[lone violet]

Why?

[steady garnet]

Ive been going back and forth trying out builds that give both high damage and high armor. Tried HB, but the stacks take take too long to produce damage. Eventually I settled for dps with some armor. Is having both possible at all?

[halcyon crater]

Not really

[vivid jolt]

there is no do everything immortal build - you usually have to sacrifice somewhere. i find most builds that have good damage and survivability have poor group scaled damage/ are kill reliant (memento) and thus a pain to use without exegenous global events like assault in play.

[lost wren]

striker memento with some blues is about the only build i can think of that will work with what you're going for, and even then it's only good in solo gameplay

[vivid jolt]

the old high end shotgun build is pretty good and still holds up, 3p gila w/ 1x improvised 1x ceska and memento will let you smash out 1m a pellet with an m870 w/ brazen or ksg w/ pummel, but is conditional with firewall shield + elites in play to get value out of the pfe present

but completely solo dependant, will work in 2p but pitters out in 4p

[dusky jetty]

2 escalation builds I just saw in my group, seems odd but I might be clueless

[soft crane]

No sir, they really are odds.

[dusky jetty]

okay good 😂

[soft crane]

Why would you need 4 pieces of a Brandset? or 4.5 skill tiers?

[dusky jetty]

we wiped on t5, unsurprisingly lol

even with ambush 😭

[soft crane]

Looks like someone else in your team is a hard carry.

[subtle bluff]

What in the trash is that....

The more you look at it the worse it gets...

[soft crane]

Im certain hes just using those proto gears thinking its way better than high-end. For a level 4.4K SHD, quite surprising to say the least.

[subtle bluff]

Holy... those are 2 crafted proto skill tier striker pieces...

[dusky jetty]

yeah...

[subtle bluff]

Wait 3! Wtf

Dumb proto slop

[soft crane]

4.5 skill tiers

[lone violet]

when is the next expert lvl up event?

[dusky jetty]

they should update what the next few events are on the 4th June

[lone violet]

man i really need to hit expert 30 so i can actually prototype the gear i use

[dusky jetty]

yeah its a grind and then some lol

[lone violet]

how much printer in total minus the bonus xp for expert will it take to max out?

[dusky jetty]

what level are you?

[lone violet]

13 on my expert

[exotic talon]

i smell youtuber builds

[dusky jetty]

1 item from level 0-10 is 3000 filament.
so x 20 to get 1 expertise level, is 60,000 filament for 1 level.

Then you'd need 17 levels to get max expert, so 1,020,000 filament total.

Every level over SHD 1000 you can claim 45 filament, so either you'd need:
1,020,000 printer filament
or 22,666 SHD levels

but that's if you never do donations of materials/duplicates to expertise, so you can probs take off about 15% I reckon

still a ridiculous grind

[lone violet]

Man

[dusky jetty]

this is why escalation is popular
because F that

[exotic talon]

what if we were to go from 1 to 30 entirely within a 3x xp event

[dusky jetty]

triple XP would make a difference, I grinded the national bond mission the last time there was a 3x XP event, but only built up about 1000 levels worth of filament - I went from exp 16-18 (you could obvs do more if you hate touching grass though 😆 )

[vernal wing]

No, they are so clueless they made you question yourself.

[lone violet]

i gone up to 5

thats gonna be my sweet spot for farming but to gamble on gear pieces for perks is very high so i rather just hit expert lvl 30 and prototype the gear i use

[vernal wing]

You speed this up a lot by actually using items you need expertise

[dusky jetty]

yeah 100%, but depends if you wanna run around with a scooby dooby cursed build

[lone violet]

tp needs a buff that gear set is drowning

[exotic talon]

what weapon is that

[dusky jetty]

is ambush turned on?

still really good though

[wary belfry]

if i had a perfect ceska holster would be around 150 160% crit damage

[soft crane]

999 gamble tickets for Investor

Please give.

[calm nebula]

Hi! For the Mantis sniper, the best atribute is "Damage to enemies out of cover", right?

[wary belfry]

i have all 3 perfect rolls

[fierce ether]

Ill drop the game prob coz this thing

Is just a mess system for new players or return players

[solar sable]

For all weapons except LMGs which need CHC.
Some cases ask for Mag Size and RoF but those are very build specific.

[honest moss]

What is the best augment for something like f.i, quantum? (The chance to ignore damage one? Might be the wrong name)

[smoky latch]

Would be a good fit

The name is right btw

[honest moss]

Ok, thank you!

[delicate hill]

i know that Tip of the Spear is basically a throw away set. but for goofin around with my friend i want to make one with the Tardigrade chest. what should my last piece be and what spec do you think? i was thinking sniper or grenade launcher...

[ocean wyvern]

Honestly, I don't even know what would work with that

[fossil crag]

Am I missing somthing rifles on umbra LOL

[delicate hill]

yea its kinda a goofy idea my friend is big on the unga bunga big boom mentality xD

like i made him a hardwired cluster seeker set so get can chuck his "Death Roombas" to his hearts content lol

[ocean wyvern]

Mortar turret would fulfill that

[delicate hill]

hes not very.... good and coordinated to shoot enemies and control a turret tbh, i have thought about it. i try to keep things a simple as i can for him lol

but in case i do lead him onto that idea... whats a good mortar turret build with a little bit of survival?

[junior lagoon]

china light industries, used anywhere?

[smoky latch]

Explo builds

[dapper glacier]

Hey peeps, now that Whiplash is being added, do you know if there’s a good build using pistols?

[junior lagoon]

Can this be a thing?

[smoky latch]

No

[exotic talon]

3pc IA (headhunter or glass cannon chest and vigilance backpack), punch drunk, fox's prayer, dodge city holster

probably a back and forth primary for a bit more damage? agitator is also pretty good because it can offset the aggro from 2pc IA but its an exotic so not applicable to whiplash

spec can be whatever, i think demo might affect regulus's explosion, just remember to pick up the +15% pistol damage perk

[smoky latch]

Regulus is only affected by weapon damage, not explo damage

[exotic talon]

yeah then spec literally doesnt matter

[smoky latch]

It's gonna be a niche sidearm

[dreamy valve]

Which buffed augment is everyone looking forward to stacking

[delicate hill]

i saw them i but i dont know them all by name so idk what each one does lol

[smoky latch]

Echo with a sprinkle of Amalgam is nice

[lunar imp]

what augment should i use for my hunters fury build looking to use it in basically everything outside of escalations
is echo still the move?

[smoky latch]

Echo for the most part I would say. Maybe some Amalgam mixed into it, not sure

[fossil crag]

waht kinda hunter build..?

[junior lagoon]

what was the equivalent of m46? m249?

[amber mortar]

Yes

[lunar imp]

prototyped 4 piece hunters fury with equalizer and memento mostly maybe overdogs sometimes or even the tinkerer

[dusky jetty]

Surely this will become the meta when it comes out?

+20% RoF & +50% Weapon DMG is crazy

[halcyon crater]

@hallow forge Striker guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0
Escalation guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WN7sbuP2TEcVaY9fg2PSRbPLS7w4cD80edBQ9JwNoCo/edit?tab=t.0

[exotic talon]

finally the hammer fanning revolver companion to dodge city holster

[solar berry]

Ikr ❤️

[hallow forge]

what should i change

[delicate hill]

depends? what do you feel your build is lacking that you are asking for input?

[hallow forge]

rn weapons ig

are the weapons i have now fine ?

i truly don’t know how to run strikers 😭

[delicate hill]

the overal damage per shot of big al IMO is low id say go with a M249 or Mk46, that may not be meta but thats my opinion, ive tried putting back al back into my striker build and it feels so weak compared to my normal weapons

[hallow forge]

i’ll try that out i only put this on because of the rpm really

frenzy talent i’m assuming?

[subtle bluff]

Remember content matters towards frenzy.

[delicate hill]

Frenzy and Killer and the main picks i like measured aswell

[hallow forge]

keep the attributes?

[subtle bluff]

CHC

[halcyon crater]

Striker guide that I linked above outlines everything there is to know about what to use where, if you want to read at your own pace

[hazy geode]

I think it means grants the bonuses

For the pistol, not the primary and secondary

[delicate hill]

yea thats what it does

[fossil crag]

quick step is still better

[subtle bluff]

The better question is that "you" suppose to be a "yours"?

[wary plank]

Can I get help with a high DPS build please I'm lost

[subtle bluff]

since there isn't anymore context to this comment. I'm just gonna point you to the Pinned Messages.

[keen plank]

Reloading both weapons is huge. Basically fire one weapon, switch, fire second weapon. Switch to the pistol. Boom instant reload on primary and secondary weapons. Its like centurions scabbard but does it better. At least that's how I see it haha

Lonestar 2.0 beebay!

[smoky latch]

Can't wait for YTers to make builds WITH Centurion's and the pistol

[lone violet]

hey guys its (insert yt name with ai thumbnail) back at it again

[upper yew]

folks, I am planning on finally involving myself with pvp after 300 hours do you have ANY tips, weapon, set&brand recommendations like I am literally starting from 0 I have no idea what pvp builds supposed to be like

[junior lagoon]

when you proto a weapon, it raises all stats to max of old right? so no need to optimize

[solar sable]

it has a chance to do that, it's not guaranteed

[subtle bluff]

It's all about to change due to the next patch, mostly. We do have a #td2-pvp-discussions for most of this.

[junior lagoon]

chance to do what? chc will be min 6, chd will be min 12, and wepaon damage will be min 15, correct or not?

[subtle bluff]

Proto takes 2 stats and improves them. Weapons and HE gear have 3 stats where Gearset only have 2.

I have't read up on the context.

[junior lagoon]

does it not raise all stats to minimum ? if not then you have to optimize before upgrading to proto

[subtle bluff]

OH.. i see the context.

I don't think anyone has tested this but in theory if we look at drop rate and there stats from T1 to T10 and knowing at T10 there most maxed you can think of the same way what there normalize drops would have been.

[junior lagoon]

when this weapon is proto'ed lmg damage will be min 15 or can it stay at 8.6?

[subtle bluff]

We do not know.

If you wanna waste exo for us we'll thank you for the test and credit you for your services of exo's

And add this. lol.

I do not have much exo left.

[junior lagoon]

i cant because i am not exp 30 hence i am asking. people have been upgreading forever so i thoguht there would be a knowledge base by now

[subtle bluff]

ahh haha

exo mats are the commodity

[junior lagoon]

sorry but you are not making any sense

what i am asking it when i upgrade something to proto? does it raise all stats to a minimum (which is max of old system) or not

[subtle bluff]

We do not know..

No one has tested to waste there exotic materials to test it.

[junior lagoon]

what is it to do with exotic materials?

[subtle bluff]

for exp...

[buoyant perch]

Yes

[junior lagoon]

you already have to upgrade to 30 before proro

[subtle bluff]

when exp stuff after 12 it cost exo

[keen plank]

Id imagine it follows the same rules as a normal proto piece no reason why you would stay below the minimum proto value. When everyone was doing the vendor trick the values were all the same when proto'd so there's your answer bud

[exotic talon]

centurion's scabbard grafted onto dodge city there truly is only one good exotic holster

[junior lagoon]

thank you sir.

[buoyant perch]

Optimization is not needed

[frail torrent]

is there a way to get the lexington atm?

[junior lagoon]

it will be in stretch goal rewards in a week

[frail torrent]

thank you

[subtle bluff]

even for the theory it may not give full max proto stats?

[junior lagoon]

question is not full max proto

[subtle bluff]

fair... I did read a bit to too much into the thought. But if you're willing to put that much mats into exp 30 wouldn't we have that question afterwards?

[hexed steppe]

Makes crafting unicorns for proto way more viable if you know youll not need to optimize it beforehand

[buoyant perch]

It doesn't matter

[subtle bluff]

ty for the info.

[left path]

Next Weeks goals :D

[upper yew]

I saw core strenght nerfs...
from 40-75% to 30 ish WITH the vest is brutal

are the balance changes gonna be universal or just gonna be adjusted for the conflict&dz

[past rivet]

Returning player here - I have a question. I'm proficient with my empress armor pieces (rank 10) but they are not showing up in the expertise menu to add even the plus 1...why is this happening?

[lone violet]

Apparently the status perk works on turrets and drones

[junior lagoon]

if it is a named item it will be under chest. if it is not named it will be under brand

[rapid dagger]

What’s a good build for the blue screen? I just got mine maxed out

[past rivet]

THIS solved me. thank you so. All I had to do was scroll down.

[solar sable]

OD, Nego, TS

[rapid dagger]

Do you have a pic of the gear or a link?

[solar sable]

they're in the pinned Spreadsheet

[subtle bluff]

Where did you see this?

[upper yew]

nowhere I am just asking since its a pvp focused update

[subtle bluff]

Always as. If you hit anything can be effected by a status effect well then...

[upper yew]

I am coping maybe its not gonna get nerfed in pve

[subtle bluff]

You saw this tho....

[upper yew]

OH that from youtube

I think the guy's name was gold rogue or smth I dunno it was a homepage refresh

[subtle bluff]

And they didn't explain where they reading from?

Most likely they did.

[upper yew]

he said he played the closed test server

[marble root]

hey guys, im coming back to the game since i stopped a bit after the pakan was added (a bit before the double barrel shotgun with no dmg falloff was announced), what did i miss?

[subtle bluff]

Yes the PTS. #division-tweets #1507342919781318778

[upper yew]

idk

[willow tartan]

I have a question about a high tier escalation striker build, 4 piece striker with hollow mask, what should be the other piece? overdogs?

[subtle bluff]

Yes overdogs. It's all in the striker guide and/or escalation guide in the build hub.

[lone violet]

even tho it wasnt used on pve

[flint arch]

actually the escalation guide just links to the striker guide 🥹

[subtle bluff]

Oh right.

And I finally updated the PGC/V Striker showcase.

[willow tartan]

Where to access build hub

[solar sable]

pinned Spreadsheet

[shut kindle]

Can anyone do some maths for me ?

Full proto build with salvo, overdogs, chest, BP. Salvo brings m60 rpm to 765. Using the 35 round mag, this brings it to around 10.6 seconds reload time. Compare this to striker chest, BP, overdogs and one piece ceska with mk46 frenzy. Which would be the higher dps?

[solar sable]

what does the first build use? Strikers?

Also, you worded that wrong. 10 seconds to reload? You meant 10 seconds to dump the whole mag?

Salvo messes with Frenzy's sync and uptime with Striker’s. If you're using Salvo for Nego, let's say, then yes, that will make it sync perfectly.

Use the DPS calculator in the pinned messages to know your accurate DPS.

[shut kindle]

I know it messes with the sync time, that's why I'm asking the question

And yes, I meant from one reload, to the next

[subtle bluff]

There were a lot of words...

I will say... Salvo is not the way for Escalation or anything that requires sustain has a part of the goal. Ceska will win

This is not finished nor is double check well.. Yea... don't look at the first striker on there..

[hybrid leaf]

Chow tell me i'm wrong... But there is absolutely no chance someone with all blue cores and a quickstep + tank shield can solo T6 DUA (in a team of four) in 9 mins.... right?

[subtle bluff]

I'm missing frenzy... and call things proto or not. Hollow man is just proto for DTH

[subtle bluff]

Ya someone cheating

[hybrid leaf]

Yeah thought so. I reported him haha

Interesting but the second I submitted the report my game crashed lol

[subtle bluff]

IMO it's really sad ppl are cheating escalation. It's not that hard if played right it's decent challenge.

[hybrid leaf]

I didn't think Xbox could be hacked?

[subtle bluff]

There's some other stuff

[hybrid leaf]

SHD 7k too. Waste of an account

[subtle bluff]

You can tank T6 but only if it's a few things hitting you at once.

[hybrid leaf]

He was face-tanking every enemy. He went down only twice. Was just doing too much damage

[subtle bluff]

Ya...

[dusk edge]

what's the pistol i keep seeing around that one shots everything?

also shoots red mist or smth

[lone wadi]

regulus

[weak pike]

Only gun without a blueprint from retal

[smoky latch]

Will be part of the upcoming stretch goals

[atomic wing]

I’m a new player in the Lexington in the rise up caches from countdown requisition or do I have to wait till June 2nd

[plush cloak]

I’m trying out some other dps builds besides striker. Using the build guide, I’ve got this build. My questions are: how can I improve and strained vs killer vs ranger on the Lex?

[smoky latch]

Only stretch goals

You don't need a shotgun with this build, nothing to stack and not for close range

[atomic wing]

So I have to wait till near end of season correct

[smoky latch]

If you don't wanna use PGC use the Equalizer, a Ceska and a GS piece

[plush cloak]

Are you referring to my message? If so, what is PGC?

[smoky latch]

Perfect Glass Cannon - as shown in the image above

You can drop the The Sacrifice and The Gift (and the third piece UA) for the Equalizer, a Ceska and a GS piece

[junior lagoon]

why big horn?

[smoky latch]

Cuz a bunch of new players were asking for a PvE build for it

But that HE build basically applies to any AR if you want

With other ARs you don't really need 3pcs UA tho

[plush cloak]

I realized as soon as I sent it. I play almost exclusively solo and have had good luck with memento. I don’t think PGC and memento go well together?

[smoky latch]

Not ideal. Then just use the Equalizer

And Memento instead of Overdogs, ofc

[junior lagoon]

Is sacrifice build used in escalations?

[smoky latch]

Sure

[solar sable]

love the 1 amalgam

[smoky latch]

It actually comes in handy. And will be even more with the buff next season

Ideally I want it on a gun but fugg the re-roll costs

[mighty forum]

What's the fastest way to upgrade to x3 retaliation and what's a recommended build for solo heroic retaliation?

[plush cloak]

Okay so replace the contractor and Fox with the ceska and grupo? I’ll give it a try. Thank you!

[smoky latch]

• DPS Build
• Control Points on heroic to fill up the agitation meter for applicable factions
• Black Tusk invaded missions on heroic for BT retaliation

[lunar imp]

was wondering with the new augment buffs if i should switch to quantum or amalgam for one of my pieces

[buoyant perch]

Yes. I asked my friend to record a video for showcasing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFCQ96i7ZdU

[smoky latch]

I have no clue why Quantum gets a buff. It seems pretty strong already

In a dedicated build with full Quantum at least

[hybrid leaf]

So... Echo augment. Does it just proc base damage? Coz I'll be hitting 2m crits and echo procs like 500k

[buoyant perch]

No it x2 the final bullet damage

[hybrid leaf]

wth

What is going wrong then haha

[buoyant perch]

Go to the range, shoot one bullet at a time. You will see how echo works.

[hybrid leaf]

Wonder what the white damage is then

[buoyant perch]

Both echo and non-crit&non-headshot are white

[hybrid leaf]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[buoyant perch]

If you see big number and white that's echo.
If you see small white number once, that's non crit&non hs.
If you see small white numbers consecutively, there's no way to know which is echo.

[hybrid leaf]

Will have to experiment at the range when I am home later

[junior lagoon]

What weapon is this?

[smoky latch]

The LMG?

M249B, Lex, Quickstep

[soft crane]

M249 and Lex

[buoyant perch]

As meta as it gets

[shy basalt]

How are people running refactor atm? Is there a reference build within the spreadsheet?

I'm not seeing one

[smoky latch]

I use this

[buoyant perch]

It should be there somewhere

[smoky latch]

If not proto I'd have a red core

[shy basalt]

ah refactor is just drone turret with heals essentially?

[smoky latch]

Ye

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19QJV66vqREDim4BKtW5qffSmsgN02tMd5LiuwUuJdGY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.7vfhmvazeq14
It's in the spreadsheet, Yellow Build section

[junior lagoon]

This is my turret drone, works in escslation?

[smoky latch]

No, just in the lower tiers. But you don't (or should not) need a healer in lower tiers

[shy basalt]

How good is the heals from refactor?

is it actually notable

[solar sable]

FI wins

[smoky latch]

With the right setup it keeps your team alive if they're not brainless

[shy basalt]

what if i'm playing in a 2-man

[smoky latch]

FI wins indeed but moreso due to the damage buff you give to your team

[shy basalt]

that changes the equation a bit 🙂

[smoky latch]

2-man scaling is low, shouldn't need healer 😛

[shy basalt]

yeah i'm just trying to find some more interesting builds to play

[junior lagoon]

Sacrifice Gift and 4 strikers, gptta try that

[shy basalt]

when I grind heroic retals

[smoky latch]

Sure, give it a try

[shy basalt]

bcuz playing the same build over and over gets old fast

[smoky latch]

Get used to it 😂

I exaggerated a bit. There are viable builds but they depend on the activity you play

[shy basalt]

yeah I've already decided I've not going to touch escalations for 6 months

until they fix the issues plaguing the systems lmao

[junior lagoon]

I must have used all kinds of builds in heroic retals from pfe to nd to strikers to foundry. Never easy whatever the build

[shy basalt]

but i've been really enjoying retals

[junior lagoon]

I cleared brooklyn solo first time with foundry shield build when assault was active barely on time

[shy basalt]

griefer has ended way too many of my runs LOL

[flint arch]

i just used striker w/ iron lung in retal. not exactly a cakewalk but it's relatively easy and you can screw up once or twice

and then after i prototyped my pvgc striker retal is piss easy

[junior lagoon]

I found that the most difficult part is when you initially attack the co

[lunar imp]

i don’t even feel like i can build my stacks up with prototyped strikers and that’s with equalizer

[junior lagoon]

Not using lung with that build?

[flint arch]

i recently bought st elmos skin so i feel like i have to use it now, so no iron lung

my secondary is a mk46 w/ frenzy now

[dawn perch]

has anyone used the strega for anything (not even sure if it is good for long range). I am mostly sticking with lex but curious about it

[soft crane]

Decent AR, good if you know how to use it.

[subtle bluff]

One is a support build the other is a hybrid.

[gilded prawn]

Hy I'm a new player looking for a strong build for Escalation missions.

[subtle bluff]

What SHD are you?

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[gilded prawn]

1000

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages > Build Hub > Striker Guide.

[gilded prawn]

My bad, I meant a build/talent guide for the Descent mode to reach loop 10+, not the regular open world.

[subtle bluff]

I don't have an answer for descent.

[gilded prawn]

Thx

[smoky latch]

Check iKia's guides on YT

[subtle bluff]

Half of it is just gameplay.

[wheat basin]

I’m a somewhat new player and I kinda wanna make a momento build at 147 shd. Should I go all in on reds or go like 3 armor cores?

[frozen hull]

Strikers mask hands knees holster memento backpack equalizer chest

[frozen hull]

I just copied ikas build

[wheat basin]

Any tips for farming equilizer? I’ve done like 20 cd and haven’t gotten 1 half decent roll

[solar sable]

UA as TL?

[smoky latch]

Retaliations as alternative

[frozen hull]

Man I wish I could help you with that .. I was lucky to get a perfect drop when the season jt came out was there

[wheat basin]

Yes bro it’s bad

[frozen hull]

I tried to farm for a second one to store incase something unfortunate happens but yet to get a drop

[wheat basin]

it looks like they’re making a new double gear drop event so maybe I’ll get lucky I hope

[frozen hull]

Good luck agent

[fierce ether]

Can wiplash be the meta? I like the talent is huge

Quickstep is just QoL

[subtle bluff]

Towards escalation, no. Reloading your frenzy weapon would be a very bad thing.
Normal PvE it does take out your exo slot so I wouldn't day it would be meta.
Quickstep isn't just a QoL since being able to get I to a better position quick is very good.

[buoyant perch]

You can do paradox striker and whiplash since frenzy is ruined with paradox anyway. It's usable in high tier escalation but the meta striker echo frenzy is still better.

[fierce ether]

Maybe if u running lex as main weapon with measured u can run whiplash, it can be interesting, but yea for retaliations and pve general content

[subtle bluff]

You asked if it could be meta. I just answered that. Did not say it was unusable or anything along those lines.

[fierce ether]

Yea yea for sure i am just agree with u

[hushed jackal]

is the foundry set and good for solo play?

[soft crane]

No sir, its used for tank build.

[hushed jackal]

shit.

[soft crane]

If you want hybrid DPS/Tank build then go for Heartbreaker.
You're breaking my Heart!

[hushed jackal]

mmmmmmmmm i see I do have overdogs

[lapis terrace]

do you think that 32% Quantum would actually make a viable tank build?

[terse scroll]

what would be a good status effect build for this corrosive event? I thought catalyst backfire but i'm not applying stacks on enemies just myself, maybe Ongoing directive for the Hollow Point ammo?

[subtle bluff]

I haven no idea how the event works. EP Burn is really the only good status effect build. A guide is in the build hub.

[terse scroll]

I just decided i'm gonna run around with the scorpio and pop their shields with that and then the rest doesn't really matter i think

Ouroboros could be fun if there's a quick and easy way to apply a status to you most of the time

[atomic anchor]

has anyone tried using an exuro build for escalation

[vernal wing]

No bueno

[atomic anchor]

okay thanks any good builds to try besides striker and TS, i wanna try some else

and besides healer i want to do dam or status effect besides OD cuz i did that when it first came out

[lone violet]

Time to farm PF on count down ahhhhh

[dawn perch]

Hmmm. So the problem with striker and current meta build for it is that it is not intutive for you to not take damage. Most people will not have access to the dps doc nor does the game push to properly learn these skills. This especially a problem newer players. OD would be a good alternative but we still problemstically glass. HB is out the question though. Its just thoughts.

[tardy wagon]

What’s better measured and frenzy or strained and frenzy on mk46/tipping/tinkerer?

[dawn perch]

Frenzy & strained but can you hit things?

[vernal wing]

Striker / Eclipse with Riot Foam / Measured assembly / Refactor for lower tiers of escalation

[atomic anchor]

okay thanks appreciate it

i will check out eclipse and measured assembly

[lone violet]

When is the update over?

[mint axle]

Now

[hushed jackal]

so, whats a good pestilence build?

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[prisma torrent]

After the update my mods decreased from 88 to 38.. logging out and logging in again doesn't help.. why were my mods deleted?

[young plaza]

can anyone point me to a cool bleed build for the new event? 🙂

[soft crane]

The Stackless Strikers

[upper yew]

would this be good for solo ?

[soft crane]

Yeah. Its a solid DPS build.

[dusk edge]

okay so i was stupid to deconstruct my tinkerer mask back then (god i hate myself). what would be a great status effect-based build for this GE?

[soft crane]

The Stackless Strikers

[young plaza]

ty !

[soft crane]

Either that or Eclipse Protocol if you want to be support.

[dusk edge]

i'll try this. Overdogs truly is that Exotic

[soft crane]

Yeh

Tinkerer is good but damn its ugly as shit.

[dusk edge]

shame we can't transmog exotics

but at least the apparel's there. i have a decent-looking mask to cover any exotic masks that i have, same with the gloves (tho Overdogs looks cool)

[upper yew]

I remember using cayote's mask for while it would either be on my face or it would be floating inside my character model

I left a green trail whenever I moved it looked like I was consantly farting

[soft crane]

Since everyones running OD, imma use Eclipse next time I play.

[lone violet]

question i see we get double mats does that aslo work for PF?

[woeful zodiac]

Is Heartbreaker with Lexington good for the corrosive shell event?

[lone violet]

me using pestil

[woeful zodiac]

Cuz if the technician linked laser pointer is utilised, u can pulse enemies (which means enemies are affected by status effects)

[mint axle]

Pulse is not a status effect.

[violet saddle]

Even the jammer pulse?

[mint axle]

Hammer does disrupt effect so yes

[lone violet]

would pestil perk count as a status effect also we get double mats for this event so does that mean double PF or no?

[soft crane]

Jammer gives disrupt.

[mint axle]

Pulse in particular just highlights enemies through walls and That's it, not a status effect.

[soft crane]

Pestilence gives debuff, not status effect.

[marble root]

whats the general consensus on core strength builds?

[lone violet]

oh well rip cause i got rid of my OD loadout cause idk what weapon is good for it

[soft crane]

Carnage, named Negev with perfect Sadist.

[mint axle]

It's not hard to refarm it with retal and countdown.

[buoyant perch]

Good for pvp, trash for pve. However I'm not sure if it's good for next season pvp with all the rebalancing.

[soft crane]

Assuming you're wearing Overdogs, thats the best one. If you're wearing Tinkerer, talent combinations should be Sadist+Pressure Point.

[lone violet]

yeah but issue with od you need kills to proc the hollow points

[mint axle]

Anyone's kills but yeah.

[soft crane]

Never had any issue getting kills with OD tbh.

[upper yew]

the moment they get hit with a od bullet they trigger the chain reaction right ?

[soft crane]

Dont forget to use either EMP sticky or Jammer pulse so you can still mark mechanical enemies.

[steep spindle]

hello, guys what are AR u can recomendded which you can get right now? For Umbra set build:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19sFbZrcsRo8j3qbot1Li556897eBRG2mxqHZmwmfXZ4/edit?tab=t.0

[lone violet]

ngl wish this appy to PF

[soft crane]

You mark enemy that is under any status effect.

[mint axle]

Only the OD guy can mark, anyone that kills the marks activate it.

[upper yew]

so theoratically speaking

[sudden cloak]

OD targeted in escalation today as well

[marble root]

please tell me that strikers is not pve hard meta for 11 years in a row (yes, i am counting div 1)

[upper yew]

I am solo and using OD, I get hallow rounds and shoot someone one bullet, it inflicts bleed and that causes the GE enemies to spontenously combust

[soft crane]

Yea, dont use OD in escalation. Theres a modifier which gives status immunity for enemies if they're low on health.

[upper yew]

is that correct ?

[soft crane]

combust?

[mint axle]

GE explosion thing

[upper yew]

yeah when they blow up in purple

[soft crane]

Oh I havent play the game yet and wont be until the day after tomorrow.

[sudden cloak]

I'm just saying it's targeted loot in an escalation mission today, I only run strikers anyways

[soft crane]

Awesome.

[buoyant perch]

Yes it is. Newest game mode has made striker more meta.

[marble root]

oh brother

[upper yew]

so 4pc OD with overdogs I have, where do I get "wicked" backpack

[sudden cloak]

To make things interesting for myself, I've made it so that unless it's an incursion or escalation, I don't use strikers, I try to find other builds that work

[soft crane]

idk, go tinker one I guess

[dry gate]

Why do I see a lot of people running GR9 for escalations, when the striker guide says MK46/M249?

[upper yew]

can I craft a named item if I craft them from the workbench

[lament reef]

named items have their own blueprints

[soft crane]

They probably dont read the guide.

[upper yew]

they prob heard stirker=op so they just use whatever they want with it

[lilac cobalt]

is there an up to date site where i can find different meta builds? or do i have to find everything on yt?

[lament reef]

see pins

[soft crane]

You definitely dont want to go YT. Check pinned messages in this chat.

Solo legendary godmode meta build ahh videos

brrr shiver me timbers...

[lilac cobalt]

before i followed ikias builds but he quit the game

[exotic talon]

because frenzy gr9 is the next best option

[soft crane]

his builds are still good and relevant

[sudden cloak]

4m+ armor! Huge dps!

[lilac cobalt]

why are there so many clickbaiters for div 2 on yt? it feels like its more than for other games

[marble root]

out of curiosity, why isnt core strength good for pve?

it feels like memento stocks go crazy from the looks

[shy basalt]

Memento isnt good because it gives you blue and yellow

[soft crane]

Idk sir

[lilac cobalt]

is there not even 1 youtuber that can be trusted when it comes to div2

[soft crane]

NGN for the lore.

[upper yew]

idk all the thumbnails I see about div2 are either ai generated slop or clickbait

[mint axle]

Because when you have a game that involves a lot of math on the DPS and a lot of new players coming in that doesn't know where to start, it's easy to put some exaggerated title like god mode build or infinite damage build and farm some views, which will return in monetization through you tube. (Not all are like that but some.)

[soft crane]

I guess RogueGold is decent.

[buoyant perch]

Gr9 has higher dps than mk46 when frenzy is procced. Mk46 is in the guide because it's easier to empty the mag to prep frenzy, plus its non frenzy dps is higher.
Gr9 is absolutely not a wrong choice.

[lone violet]

so next week is the climax mission?

[soft crane]

Today.

[lone violet]

i dont have it unlocked apperently and i just finished the scout

[soft crane]

You need to do all the HVTs.

[lone violet]

i did

[soft crane]

Huh thats odd.

[lone violet]

also its farming time

[soft crane]

Restart your game I guess.

[soft crane]

Deconstruct a gearmod once. If you get 12 that means its doubled.

[lone violet]

i need to stock up anyways im trying to hit expert 30

[grim bluff]

I would not trust the AI overview on google, at all

[soft crane]

No I mean, can you deconstruct a gearmod once to confirm the event is active?

[grim bluff]

It's pulling from a november 2025 youtube video for example

[soft crane]

Yep thats why.

[lone violet]

i will see rn im about to do the man hunt

[soft crane]

Aw come on.

[lone violet]

time to go refactor

[soft crane]

Well alright.

[lone violet]

deffo taking of the GE cause lmao

we are set

[lone violet]

got 6 PF from breaking down 1 gear

[soft crane]

That means the event isnt active or doesnt apply to gearmod.

[upper yew]

guys I have a stupid question if I open an exotic cache inside a assault rifle allocated zone does my chances of getting and exotic ar increase ?

[teal ibex]

oke short qeustion.. did anomoly actually became viable for proto gear with update?
i mean its skill damage that heals you. drones? turrets? thinking modes like escal/legend etc. end game

[teal ibex]

exotic is not true. just tested it

[buoyant perch]

High tier Escal is a non starter, you need dps to clear it in a reasonable time

[teal ibex]

yea the damage comes from your build/gun not ur skills usually. using the tard for skill t +1 and using a drone or w/e sounds like an extra survival idea tbh.
idk what u think of high tier escal lol. 5-10?

[buoyant perch]

The heal is the responsibility of the healer. Even if you die, birdy will just revive you in seconds. High tier to me is 6-10.

[atomic anchor]

i wanna ask before i forget later, is umbra initiative a good build with the backpack and chest piece? for escalation i mean

[dusk edge]

how's this one so far? i'm substituting Devil's Due for the time being. i don't have a normal ceska bag (or should i keep it?)

[teal ibex]

u can switch overdogs to tinkerer if u like with those guns tbh. but seems fine to me

[dusk edge]

don't have tinkerer

but i'm curious if i really should be bringing two LMGs or if i could use another gun as a backup

[teal ibex]

yea change backpack atleast. devils due kinda useless in this sense. go wicked

[dusk edge]

i will get the back i can put wicked in. devil's due should do for now esp +8% CHC (also bc i tend to get hit a lot and perhaps this should help with a little bit of survivability?)

[dawn perch]

Is this good build to give to someone new? I highly suspect people are not going build striker stacks and they will face tank damage. Theorycrafting per say

[vernal wing]

It’s easy to use up to maybe Tier 5 in escalation. Beyond that it’s going to lack in damage to play consistently compared to Striker

[dusk edge]

also i'm keeping MG5. idk what backup weapon i can use. this gun literally has unlimited ammo at the point holy shit

[exotic talon]

how have i never heard of devil's due before
perfect clutch on ceska goes insane

[dusk edge]

i have it lying around in my stash. sheets had ceska and it's the only ceska bag i have

is there a thing such as a "stable LMG" like Pestilence on CoCo?

[teal ibex]

not really imo.
u can change the backpack to a red core. same for holster. u can switch out holster for OD. and put kneepads as turmoil/fox prayer even. or an exotic for u to choose as long u got an OD piece

[atomic anchor]

Chest piece called The Cherished has talent called perfect trauma is my all time choice for OD. Headshots apply Blind to the enemy and Chest shots apply Bleed to the enemy, both effects have a shortened 20-second cooldown (compared to the 30-second cooldown on the standard Trauma talent). Def worth putting one on imo. Gets the status effect going, esp if you get your hands on iron lung.

[dusk edge]

i do have iron lung!

[teal ibex]

no. u need chest piece for OD. u can leave the backpack

[atomic anchor]

okay i was wondering thanks. escalation is just way to new for me as far builds go

[dawn perch]

I think about giving this to learner so likely they have not develop any skill at all. I personally would noy use this build as i would on striker but you say that it would better put them on reds and just learn not take damage? I also assume they would not have access to all gizmos we have.

[teal ibex]

the loot drops fast. put him into countdown u be fine lol.
cores dont matter much at start. but prefer red is way to go.
its mostly the talents ur aiming for at the start

[atomic anchor]

they can do what they want i was just putting in my opinion works like a charm for me and keeps supplying my team mates with the hollow point ammo so it really depends tbh

[dusk edge]

curious: would big alejandro work with OD?

or does OD really need smth that applies status effects?

[exotic talon]

the issue with cherished is that its habsburg

[dusk edge]

oh my god

[exotic talon]

have fun grinding chc chd on a habsburg piece so you can slap on a red core
at least its not the habsburg hh grind

[atomic anchor]

you can use any high end chest piece and switch the talent for it too

[exotic talon]

i think base durations suck a bit too much to be usable

[atomic anchor]

I do with grupo

[exotic talon]

big af cooldown for inconsequential and short status effects

honestly just bring a sticky bomb, aim at the enemy youre about to kill and double tap

[dusk edge]

okay. since sadist seems to make my MG5 handle great on its own, is there any gun i could use as a backup secondary?

[atomic anchor]

yes it would

[exotic talon]

back and forth lex probably

[atomic anchor]

esp if you use that talent

[dusk edge]

oh cool

[atomic anchor]

talent - trauma on chest piece

[lone violet]

ok this manhunt is annoying

[exotic talon]

i need a sokolov creeping death backpack for my silly ridgeway hf build

[atomic anchor]

we complained the last one was too easy but we got proto now so ofc they made it rough this time

[atomic anchor]

we'll get it with practice

[dusk edge]

i'll probs just play around with whatever i wanna use i suppose

[exotic talon]

ok this is cap who complained about ironworks chunga

[lone violet]

like how do you dps the heli fast

[exotic talon]

that mfer was ruthless

[dusk edge]

wait wha? what's this week's scout?

[atomic anchor]

wait that was the last one, nm it was the one before that i was thinking about mb

[full citrus]

Hmmm are oxidizer builds still viable are those OD now.

[dusk edge]

play around with oreo and scorpio just for the fun of it

[exotic talon]

yeah ironworks was the last one
we are paying for our hubris in installments

watch the next climax be a 4-8 rogue encounter scaling with player count

[atomic anchor]

i can tell from twitch its brutal but i just gon enjoy the GE today the vets are making videos

[exotic talon]

pentagon is hard enough as it is but now they want us to fight a kill squad and apparently the chunga encounter from dark hours
honestly i kinda vibe with how unhinged it is

[lone violet]

the heli is the annoyiong part

[atomic anchor]

it seems like tier 10 lvl of brutal to me 🫣

[exotic talon]

the director is out for blood

[lone violet]

idk if pestil is good here

[dusk edge]

ooookay. so this GE requires you to put distance. are there any LMGs that are "stable" enough?

[dusk edge]

at least for this week's event paired with OD

[atomic anchor]

what shd are you?

[dusk edge]

483

stability currently at 32

doubt there's an LMG with lesser recoil?

i've gotten used to how Pestilence handles with CoCo. oof

[atomic anchor]

do you have scorpio? with that talent chest piece that could help not lmg but its what i got atm

[junior lagoon]

Bluescreen is stable

[dusk edge]

i have scorpio yeah

[river axle]

Hey guys, pretty new and am starting to get my builds sorted. I have not even attempted any raids yet so what build should I be working towards to be able to do the harder ingame content? I have been trying to get those dang overdogs but have had no luck yet lol

[atomic anchor]

see how that works i had no problem using Scorpio when i was low shd when i started playing on xbox from ps

[junior lagoon]

there is a guide pinned on this channel

[river axle]

thank you

[junior lagoon]

specifically lcl 40 starters guide

[atomic anchor]

OD was the first build i put together with that chest piece and Scorpio kept me from getting kicked in countdown no joke

[valid fractal]

Is there a meta to this game as far as builds go, if so anyone got a link i could go look at to get an idea? I just started back up again with the resurrection of the game through the new DLC, i used to reek havoc on people and top tier missions in the first Division. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!

[grim bluff]

Check the pinned messages

[dusk edge]

scorpio is perfect. you could even proc hollow point to it

[atomic anchor]

yes its awesome i used it every time i go into countdown one my fav builds

[dusk edge]

but there's just no LMG with great stability eh?

i suppose OD's unlimited ammo makes up for the lost bullets

[atomic anchor]

i didnt try lmg when i was low shd so i cant say although you could try bluescreen someone mention it so its worth trying whatever you got, that talent will work with alot of weapons like AR and st elmos etc.

[dusk edge]

bluescreen with OD? hold on let me try

[atomic anchor]

ik the iron lung can be rough for low shd but i didnt try bluescreen so idk but its always worth trying things out

[dusk edge]

iron lung takes a while for burn to proc

[wary belfry]

what’s the protos today and proto boxes rewards

[atomic anchor]

that's why i use trauma talent on chest piece, procs right away. def try that to see for yourself

[dusk edge]

i'll make a note of that

[atomic anchor]

some ppl prefer the OD chest over that so its really whatever works best for you, just glad Scorpio works. you try bluescreen yet

[dusk edge]

oh wait i have big show. 3 kills for shock instead of 4 kills for sadist on MG5

[lone violet]

just beat it man pestil is goated

[exotic talon]

is it just me or does whiplash kinda resemble an rsh12

[exotic talon]

are those cosmetic gloves or are you running bloody knuckles

[lone violet]

winter tiger gloves cosmetics

[atomic anchor]

im using backfire with the investor with 3 blue non core attribute works great but getting that roll was brutal it was worth it tho i am shd 18000 so i did have exo com for it saved up but will nvr do it again smh

[exotic talon]

oh sick

[exotic talon]

red core triple blue?

[atomic anchor]

yes i got one blue core on one my OD

[exotic talon]

based honestly, i used to run yellow core triple red on my core strength build

[atomic anchor]

i mainly wanted the triple blue so i settled whatever core i was going to get

[atomic anchor]

how was that

[exotic talon]

not very good considering i was missing out on both ninjabike or an actual backpack talent for the triple core from cs bp

[dusk edge]

my ninjabike has finally retired

[exotic talon]

i only have a maxed ninjabike for meme builds and pvp

[lone violet]

So why is CS getting a nerf if no one ran it in pve

[atomic anchor]

oh ok i didnt try it so i didnt know, im thinking farming another masks to see how all yellow would do i havent seen anyone tried that with a skill build

[exotic talon]

cs is getting a nerf???

[dusk edge]

alright. i'm okay with big show now

just proc hollow point and melt through everything

[halcyon crater]

nerfed in pvp

[dusk edge]

Overdogs style; aim for the weakest first

[halcyon crater]

wherever you get your info it's not the whole context

[exotic talon]

ah yeah that was anticipated
kinda sad though its my only pvp build lol

[atomic anchor]

im going back to game time flying by

[visual needle]

sooo what kind of guns/builds should I use for the corrosive shell enemies?

[grim bluff]

Not sure why you're reducing your damage just to have an initial status effect on your weapon, use a foam launcher or EMP sticky to get the initial status effect and then OD will keep itself going

[weary condor]

AR recommendations for non exotic or lexington?

[grim bluff]

Police M4 is very nice

[junior lagoon]

how many TWD sources a striker build with equalizer and overdogs have? Perfect obliterate is one. Is there any other?

let's assume we have mk46 with frenzy as weapon

[halcyon crater]

the standard build only have the 24% from p obli

[junior lagoon]

then it will be multiplcative with rest of the damage. i want to compare to 30 percent of glass cannon

[sudden cloak]

That's amp not TWD

[junior lagoon]

if it is the only damage modifier it will be an amp

[sudden cloak]

Obliterate is TWD, while GC is amp

[junior lagoon]

you are multiplying TWD with base damage

it is the same thing

[sudden cloak]

No it's not

[junior lagoon]

it is

base damage * WD* TWD*amplifier

[flint arch]

if you're not running measured, no

frenzy gives you WD

so functionally, the TWD may as well be an amp

[junior lagoon]

thank you sir

so but we need critical hits for PO

so should it be 0.6*1.24?

[flint arch]

you should be able to reach max stacks and stay at max easily during a fight tho

[willow tartan]

Guys, tinkerer build with tipping scales, what for the other piece??

[junior lagoon]

correct but even at max stack, my non critical hits wont give 1.24 right?

[flint arch]

okay wait I reread it. so you need crit hits to get obliterate stacks, but the TWD applies to all damage you deal, crit or not

[junior lagoon]

aha ok

then Perfect Glass Cannon vs Perfect Oblieterat is 1.30 vs 1.24

[flint arch]

basically yeah

[junior lagoon]

they gotta change the name of TWD, it is confusing with WD

[sudden cloak]

It's not really that confusing once you actually look at it

[flint arch]

I should also mention that there are some confounding factors like how UA gives you 5% RoF and Providence gives you 13% HSD which means the comparison is a bit more complicated than that

[junior lagoon]

correct

[flint arch]

But in general from what I've seen, if you're using Striker or TS, Equalizer will lose to Sacrifice, but the difference is very negligible

Only major difference is that Sacrifice doesn't need stacking

[sudden cloak]

I like intimidate as well, for certain builds, provided you can keep up bonus armor

36% TWD at max stacks or 40% if you're using perfect version

[onyx sage]

it's actually a 1.42/1.49 amp (not even twd)

blame tooltip writers

i.e. 1.04^9 or 1.04^10

[sudden cloak]

Lol

[onyx sage]

in descent it's one of if not the most busted red talent

[sudden cloak]

Is there ever an instance where you'd run perfect? Or would the extra weapon dmg from a brand bonus outweigh the extra amp

[onyx sage]

just because of it working exponentially

[onyx sage]

arguably if you run it with hsd bighorn regen in pvp but in pve it has no place

[sudden cloak]

Ah yeah, makes sense for pvp, I just do pve stuff mostly

[lone violet]

Funny how I haven’t even started to go for the hunter mask

[dusk edge]

took out the 8% CHC scope on the Big Show for the 30% Stability one. everyone still dies in under a second (esp once RPM buff procs) and with the benefit of having the gun still being controllable. i love it

[mental rapids]

What’s a good status build?

[dusk edge]

man. what would become of me if i didn't join this server and instead still played the game with my old build of:

• 3pc Hotshot
• NBB
• 1pc (2pc via NBB) Breaking Point

[sudden cloak]

Eclipse

Or OD

[flint arch]

you don't use OD for the bleed

[dusk edge]

i'll go with OD especially for this event. basically unlimited ammo

[sudden cloak]

I should've asked for context

But eclipse is still good though, I was thinking OD for the event we got going on

[dusk edge]

i'll personally keep OD even after the event ends

[sudden cloak]

Lol, I run this when I'm bored

[junior lagoon]

how do we include rate of fire in damage calcutaions? do we convert base damage to dps ?

[mental rapids]

Scorpio?

[dusk edge]

if it still kills then why the hell not

[flint arch]

there's a simple dps calculator in the pinned messages

[dusk edge]

mine can really only shine if determined is procced. even still purples with shields don't die LMAO

[sudden cloak]

It's pfe mods, and yes it kills very well, except in 4 person legendary and escalation

[mental rapids]

Scorpio + OD?

[dusk edge]

because my dumbass thought it was better to put all of my gear into CHC/CHD instead of HSD. no wonder it's barely doing anything

[dusk edge]

i use that atm. it sorta works

[junior lagoon]

that is not what i am after when we do base damage WDTWD*amp....... formula, how do we integrate rate of fire

[dusk edge]

especially CQB. scorpio applies status effects, then swap to LMG, continue the stacks

[sudden cloak]

The calculator does it for you

[dusk edge]

at least that's what i've been doing for now

[sudden cloak]

I run carnage with my OD build

[flint arch]

crit shot × CHC + non-crit × (1-CHC) × RPM/60