td2-build-advice

[exotic talon]

i mean, quickstep and assault are active at the same time but they dont stack
saying they stack is important

[vernal wing]

Or sacrifice

[upper rover]

Equalizer grind might kill me ngl

[hexed steppe]

what?

[upper rover]

I tried doing it a bit on retaliations to get bps too, but they are so damn slow

[soft crane]

Tough luck huh

[exotic talon]

buddy equalizer is a named unit alloys chest piece
target the brand and run countdown

[hexed steppe]

equalizer is an easy drop anywhere

[upper rover]

Yeah but countdown means no bps

[hexed steppe]

like it matters

[exotic talon]

you dont need the bp 99% of them drop with chc chd anyways

[upper rover]

Well it doesn't

[hexed steppe]

its for the piece then you move on

[soft crane]

them hunters at the end guarantee to drop named items though

If you target a brand, higher chance to get named item from that brand

[upper rover]

Yeah ik...I just want the bps...

For exotics and getting equalizer would be good during that grind too

[soft crane]

Suit yourself sir.

[upper rover]

If I just wanted to target one specific thing than ofc I would run countdown

[hexed steppe]

the grind is as easy or as hard as you make it... with that im out

[soft crane]

RNG can be merciless sometimes. Not even surprised on how he struggle to look for an item with the right 2 attributes.

Oh well...

[upper rover]

Well 1, since u just recalibrate the other

[soft crane]

Ah yes

[upper rover]

And preferably the others would roll max roll but that's asking too much

For tinkerer what's the best 2nd talent? For ar

Measured?

[lilac terrace]

im at 57.5 crit chance and 135.4% crit dmg, should i drop 10% crit dmg to gain 60% crit chance (technically 63.5% so that means im wasting to be at crit chance cap)

[rain fox]

@lilac terrace add your chc and chd together with different combos see what gives the highest number

[smoky latch]

What's your build?

[rain fox]

@upper rover with striker its a good option to build stacks faster to start off

[lilac terrace]

striker DPS for escalation

[smoky latch]

Then I'd go 60% CHC. Don't change a gear mod, change a weapon attachment

[rain fox]

Don't use any talents that are on kill because your not killing stuff to fast

[upper rover]

I got killer so...

[rain fox]

I used it for a long time it's nice when you get a kill but it will be down alot in escalation try find a different talent if possible

[upper rover]

Well it only matters for t5 and above and especially not solo

I tried t5 solo and stuff dies too quick

[rain fox]

Yes if your low tiers your fine I use a lmg on high tier for frenzy talent

[upper rover]

Need some good proto rotation on a nice mission and enough will to run it

I use interchange as secondary it's pretty nice

[rain fox]

Ye it's not worth it right now only tipping scales or striker are worth it for me personally

Unless you need cores any is fine

[upper rover]

oh getting a gun in not a gun mission is hit or miss

[rain fox]

Ye gear sets are the easiest to get the rolls you need any other items good look getting the perfect item that's worth keeping

[upper rover]

I should grind more tokens for ar cache once that happens that could be good

But 4 tokens each run on t5 solo is... Nah

[rain fox]

I would save your tokens I spent 200 and got 2 usable items wait for decent targeted gear sets negotiators dilemma is decent to

The caches are good for new players needing a few decent starter items to get them up and running not for people who are looking for best gear with the best rolls

[upper rover]

So far the caches gave me the best gear

Ofc only for guns, trying to get any set with good roll would be insane (I do have those too tho)

[rain fox]

You must be lucky my experience there not worth it

[upper rover]

I got my current gun out of it and I love it

It got max DTH roll which I never saw drop as in max roll idk if that's possible below t10

[rain fox]

Let's say you want a certain ar and there 25 ars for example and there 10 talents or so what's the chances of getting the ar you need with the 3rd attribute as dtoc for example so many possibilities and combos pure rng

[upper rover]

I got a lot of usable pieces

Just for sets I would never use... But still kept

[rain fox]

Ye maybe for sets odds are much more favorable for you but don't wast tokens on any other things like myself

[upper rover]

Nothing else to do them with so it's fine

[rain fox]

I learnt the hard way now I'm broke lol

[upper rover]

Yeah going to 0 can be rough when you only get to host

[rain fox]

Yup can't find a lobby above t3 now I was doing tiers 8 on average before the grind starts again

But ye man save up for things so then when the right thing comes along you can get it same for materials don't waste them spend wisely and good luck to you

[hazy geode]

GUYS

i have a question regarding debuffs

does a mark count as a status effect

[rain fox]

A mark from what

[smoky latch]

No

[hazy geode]

from weapons

[hazy geode]

ight thx

[rain fox]

Pulse from the blues reen does

I use it to activate od sometimes

[hazy geode]

wait

[rain fox]

But pulse from the link laser pointer doesnt

[hazy geode]

does linked laser point

[rain fox]

No it's strange why blues screen does but pointer doesnt

[smoky latch]

Scanner pulse (including the LLP) is not a status effect

Bluescreen marks enemies and upon fulfillment it triggers disrupt

[solar sable]

@hazy geode ☝️

[rain fox]

Ye just tested the 10 stack pulse with blues reen then use a skill it pulses and upon kill you get the hollow points from od

[hazy geode]

im asking bc im making a medic build and dont have scorpio

[rain fox]

You got blues reen?

[hazy geode]

yes

[rain fox]

OK use that but you need to use a skill once you meet the requirements of the talent and that counts as status effect you trigger it early by using a skill if you at atleast 10 stacks

[smoky latch]

What build are you making exactly?

[hazy geode]

btsu fi

dont mind the strikers piece its a place holder rn

[smoky latch]

Do you have the Sweet Dreams shotgun? An alternative to Scorpio until you get it

[hazy geode]

i do yeah

[smoky latch]

You should get The Setup backpack

[hazy geode]

I have it but its an ass role

[smoky latch]

Farm some more. Making a half-assed build won't help you or your team

[hazy geode]

I got a question how is sweet dreams a alternative

the talent is about melee attacks 😭

[smoky latch]

1. Due to The Setup
2. You can quickly take out red bard and purples

Comes in really handy

[solar sable]

you can one shot reds and purples even at T10

[smoky latch]

Eh - come T8 you cannot one-hit purples with armor anymore...

[solar sable]

no?! omg...

[smoky latch]

They need to take a bit of damage first. The talent doesn't damage doesn't go that high 😄

Idk the exact number but I heard around 120m or so is max. Sandman damage

[rain fox]

Have you tried the shroud that puts ot crazy damage on a 1 shot if you use it right

[smoky latch]

How does that fit into a healer build??

[rain fox]

I had like 70 or 80mil on a shot with the kneepads that deal damage twice

[smoky latch]

More than once I thought I hit an elite but no, just a purple that still had full HP while I merely took the armor off lol

[rain fox]

@solar sable was replying to this guy

[hazy geode]

whats best way to farm the setup

also should I focus more on repair or skill haste

[solar sable]

lame 😔

[smoky latch]

Retaliations (on heroic), Countdown on challenging, crafting if you have the blueprint

[hazy geode]

targetted backpacks or the brand set

[rain fox]

I've never tried a 1 shot build on retaliation I will try it see how it goes see if you can 1 shot these big boys

[solar sable]

always the brand

[vernal wing]

Can you shoot them with Perf Opp and then melee to kill?

[smoky latch]

You yourself won't do much damage. It's to to debuff the NPCs to give your team 15% amp damage to them.
But sure you can melee whenever necessary/possible

[vernal wing]

With sweet dreams?

(Can the melee not kill t10 red bar with the debuff?)

[smoky latch]

That is possible but not if they have the damage resistance mutator (called Anchor)

[shut kindle]

Brand, they added so many gear/ brand sets that it's mad now. Brand is a 1/6 chance for a backpack, backpack is like a 1/40 at the brand set lol

Maybe worse

Although sometimes I still target LMGs for instance, but this is more for crafting components

Recalibration is expensive

[smoky latch]

36 brand sets in the game rn

[rain fox]

Why do the termoil do more damage total

I hit for 30 miliion without them and 26million x2 with them on so 52 million total

[rain fox]

What tier these all from

Or did you roll these

[wary belfry]

been farming tier 10s

[hazy geode]

updated build

[rain fox]

OK was gonna say I did a few tier 8s none good like that

Good build you even give 10%more damage to team from survival spec

Now try get your scorpio you solid

[wary belfry]

my other proto striker are almost maxed out stats for crit hit and damage but still going for perfect

[rain fox]

Ye nice I have full striker and tipping but just trying to max them out no luck yet

[junior lagoon]

On the other hand i have only striker knee proto and it ii like 14 percent chd

With some random augment

[onyx sage]

you using headhunter?

[smoky latch]

I get Echo on 90% of trash pieces but never on the good one 😂

The ones that are useable have a random one

But hey, 25 cores per max re-roll is nothing, right?

[rain fox]

Ye headhunter but it can't even compete in tier 4 I've tested it doesn't work well

[onyx sage]

yeah turmoil and hh have that kind of interaction

it's why we only recommend it on hh builds mostly because of how the halving works better in hh's favor

[rain fox]

This was without the kneepads it still can't manage tier 4 effectively

[royal mantle]

Which attribute would be best for Iron Lung? Some say RoF instead of DtA

[smoky latch]

What's DoA? CHC is recommended

[royal mantle]

Meant DtA mb

[summer flax]

i just wanted to share my first proto drop. the augment isnt echo tho

atleast the crit damage is maxed out

[keen plank]

Paradox is second best lad

Thats a good crit damage roll you got

Keep it for now but try to get echo

[summer flax]

alrightie

[wary belfry]

just re roll it

[summer flax]

progress! ive been spamming tier 3 and 4 cuz its not stress full in pubs. getting drops every run atleast

[summer flax]

im gonna break down my exotics. i have so many in my stash waitin for that day

[wary belfry]

i get 3 per tier 10 it shows

kept all mine for expertise farm

[summer flax]

i missed the last expertise boost event 🙁

[wary belfry]

it’s alright

[tender escarp]

hey guys for an exotic say you have two core attributes can you optimize both until its at max stat?

[solar sable]

yes

exotics don't follow the optimization rules like regular items

[copper yarrow]

What is the current meta build for T10 escalation?

[smoky latch]

there is a guide in the spreadsheet

[smoky latch]

you need a higher roll in your library

You're currently capped at 4.8%

Extract a higher roll from another item to have it in your library

[blissful patrol]

so i need to get another holster that has 6 percent to then upgrade that

[smoky latch]

Exactly 👍

[blissful patrol]

ok thank you you saved me

[smoky latch]

I didn't want you to lose your mind 😄 Yw

[blissful patrol]

xd

[copper yarrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1509999994#gid=1509999994

In this one?

[smoky latch]

Yessir, scroll down a bit

[copper yarrow]

Thank you, appreciate it.

[open saddle]

Which is better a fully optimised striker or a low optimised proto striker

[smoky latch]

Depends on the attributes I would say

[sullen night]

prototype gear can not roll lower than fully optimized normal gear, so proto. but it NEEDS the right attributes, not some random crap

[smoky latch]

Ye

[open saddle]

I am not speaking about expertise I am speaking about rolls

[smoky latch]

Prototype gear drops are always higher than non-proto

[sullen night]

yea no idea how else to say it

[smoky latch]

So even a low proto roll is better than a maxed out non-proto

Look at the numbers

Given you have the right attributes ofc

[timid token]

Should I just get prototype gear when I hit experties 30

[open saddle]

@subtle bluff u are need here

[subtle bluff]

Who summons me???

[smoky latch]

Yeah. Farming exo comps is kinda useless

[subtle bluff]

Eh…

[open saddle]

@subtle bluff

[smoky latch]

I mean, on T10 you get a whole THREE EXO COMPS per successful completion

👏

[subtle bluff]

If there the right stats proto of course

[open saddle]

So I could have next to nothing on my rolls and it would be better?

I just need to understand before I decide to farm this strikers non sense

[subtle bluff]

Proto is more than non proto max

Just get the right stats for it

[subtle bluff]

Eh…. For unicorn stuff it’s good still.

[uncut yarrow]

Proto cant be (supposed to at least) any lower than max normal gear

So all proto gear is "better" than any normal gear. Stats and such of course

[subtle bluff]

Ty. Words escape me.

[smoky latch]

You have no other choice currently, doesn't make it better

[uncut yarrow]

I say things that people like every once in a while

[subtle bluff]

Ya 100% sorry didn’t know the context

[subtle bluff]

I don;t like to English sometimes.

[uncut yarrow]

Yea me neither

[subtle bluff]

Even tho that’s all I can speak.

[wary belfry]

got a few perfect strikers from tier 10

[urban latch]

You tell em Chow

[wary belfry]

have a look

[hazy hull]

If I'm not mistaken wouldn't ECHO break on shotguns since division counts each pellet as a bullet

[sullen night]

Why break? If you fire 50 bullets, x% of them will do double damage and if you fire 50 pellets, also x% of them will do double damage 🤔

[hazy hull]

I meant broken

[sullen night]

But in what way?

[hazy hull]

One shotgun blast from a M870 potentially do x8 pellets doubled into x16 you would just be one shotting anything

[sullen night]

if you have 100% echo chance (which isnt achievable) then yes, every shotgun shot would deal double damage - but every other kind of gun would also deal double damage with each shot with 100% chance

I don't know if Echo is rolled per pellet or per full shot though, but no matter which one, it's still the same dps increase. Every 1% echo chance is, technically speaking, just 1% more dps

[hazy hull]

Yea just seems more powerful on shotgun's wich are already close to one shots

[exotic talon]

cant tell if the game is trolling me or handing me a gigabrain synergy

[sullen night]

12% more damage of an occasional random status effect that already deals no damage doesn't seem that convincing 😬

[exotic talon]

does skill duration affect skill status effects

[vernal wing]

Skill duration only affects the actual deployable

[exotic talon]

noted

[subtle bluff]

Yes but slightly..

[vernal wing]

Explain

[subtle bluff]

You can test it.

Scales really bad.

[vernal wing]

I cant tell a difference when tested

Are we talking like additional nanoseconds?

[subtle bluff]

I could be wrong iirc when I texted.

[vernal wing]

I’m not checking frames or anything

[subtle bluff]

It's not frames.

[vernal wing]

Hmm

[subtle bluff]

Let me get on later

[worn lark]

Very unique build I know, but would i be better dropping overdogs and use a diff kneepad/holster? or overdogs still too good to pass up, gonna see if i can get better striker rolls today before doing augments, Thanks 🙂

Assuming the finished product would be best in slot augments

I'm thinking maybe the extra augment and possible 2pc gear set might be better overall than overdogs alone for general uptime

[hybrid pelican]

Striker kneepads and hollowman if u want meta

[onyx sage]

no 2p gear set will beat overdogs even with 50% uptime

more so you're looking for named items that when protoed give 50% more of their special stats

[worn lark]

shittttt forgot about hollow man

Assuming i only have a maxed out high end hollow man, would that be better then?

[onyx sage]

no, it's not worth unless proto

[worn lark]

Got it, thanks guys

[onyx sage]

you can use 1p ceska

[worn lark]

So until hollow man proto, the build i have is prob the best i can get until ceska proto drops perhaps

since im only level 18 expertise lol

[hybrid pelican]

Depending on the rolls on that kneepads the ceska will be better since more crit chance = can put more into crit dmg

[worn lark]

on my IA knees

This is on my frenzy negev, i can change a weapon mod to get closer to 60% chc tho

[onyx sage]

it's not better even with proto

[hybrid pelican]

If u going for max dmg then go ceska. U want 60% chc

[worn lark]

the 60% diff is that worth it? I can do grupo instead idk lmfao 🧐

actually nvm i can grab high end ceska knees 1 min

this is where im at on ceska knees

[onyx sage]

that's good

[hybrid pelican]

perfect

[worn lark]

Thanks guys 🫡

[exotic talon]

i think a fire eclipse build all in on status effects benefits from vile's debuff much more than overdogs' amp

since the debuff also scales from status effects

[onyx sage]

even overdogs is getting used on status builds too

but not really common

[broken edge]

just why

they actually made my life worst by joining and making enemies stronger

[exotic talon]

i was gonna ask why 3 piece hf
then i saw nbb

[subtle bluff]

Oh good old NBB slop...

[broken edge]

half is blue

with the worst sniper in the game

[subtle bluff]

At least there was a thought behind it.....

Ooops "thought"

[broken edge]

dont worry they made sure to run towards the enemy and blindfire the sniper

[subtle bluff]

better than proto slop... No thought.....

[blissful patrol]

i am new to game should i focus on playing escalation to get prototype gear or should i level up my expertise level?

[broken edge]

are you strong enough to find heroic easy?

[subtle bluff]

Or find players that'll carry you.

[broken edge]

if you ask people to carry you in escalation blindly most wont be happy in matchmaking

[blissful patrol]

how would one become strong enough to do heroic

[subtle bluff]

Good basic builds, gameplay and some knowledge helps.

[broken edge]

getting a decent build is probably the easiest part

[blissful patrol]

i have a stricker build with all of the attributes on crit chance and crit damage

i come from div 1 so just stuck to what a know

i also have an equalizer vest with the same attributes

[broken edge]

that is in general a good build

[blissful patrol]

not sure what to work towards with the gloves

have these rn

[subtle bluff]

Your library.

isn't even farmed up.

[blissful patrol]

you mean get all the max attributes in the libary

[subtle bluff]

The starter guide has you do that while your get the basic build.

[blissful patrol]

so optimize my build fully

this is my build

[silent storm]

You can only optimize to the max your library has

[blissful patrol]

i know

[subtle bluff]

Good basic build.

[blissful patrol]

so before i do escalation i first need to fully optimize my build

[subtle bluff]

You can get more to fit near the meta...

[silent storm]

You need to max your Library first

[subtle bluff]

DTTooC weapon and Overdogs

[blissful patrol]

yes i was reading about overdogs what would the best way to get them

[subtle bluff]

Let me put it this way.

[blissful patrol]

to get exotics i have just been playing countdown and using the credits to buy the crates

[subtle bluff]

You should be able to something like this.

That is a good way to get exo's

but the better way to target overdogs is retal like the starter should of mentioned

[blissful patrol]

what difficulty should i be playing on retal to get them

i am guessing max

[sullen night]

Heroic will eventually become a cake walk, your build is already decent, keep improving it, getting SHD levels etc. and more importantly, learn positioning, how to peak etc. You can start out on challenging if Heroic is too much of a struggle at the start

[blissful patrol]

ok thank you guys for the help

[sullen night]

I would try to swap Chameleon for a "proper" assault rifle at some point, the close range nature of it could possibly make stuff more difficult than in needs to be. Unless you have no problems with it of course

[blissful patrol]

what assualt rifle would you recomend?

[subtle bluff]

Weapon wise doesn't matter too much has long as it's High RPM and Killer (solo) or measured.

It's gonna matter for you more.

if you're able to use it.

[blissful patrol]

okok

[sullen night]

yea, the goal is to get your talent of choice and "damage to targets out of cover" as its 3rd attribute. You can reroll either of those, but only one, so you need to find one which has one of the 2

[blissful patrol]

ok thank you guys

[sullen night]

You probably also have to run a lot of control points to get the weapon attachment blueprints, unless they changed that 🤔

[timid token]

Ngl I got it from countdown and countdown was kinda easy tho to get overdog

But me go back to work

[grim pawn]

I need some advice. I am running 4 piece striker with the backpack. using the overdogs gloves and right now a unit alloy chest. is there something better i could be running for my 1 piece. using an ar btw

[solar sable]

is it an Equalizer with double crit? (CHC & CHD)

[grim pawn]

unbalanced chestplate is what its called. rolled with chc&headshot unfortunately. I put unbreaking on the chest. couldnt think of a better one

[solar sable]

try to get an Equalizer, it's way better than what you have atm
Obliterate is one of the strongest chest talents out there even though it looks like it isn't (in a new player POV)

[grim pawn]

ok thank you. I will go run a countdown and get one. Just want to do better at escalation. perfect day for me to farm it

[timid token]

And ur right about that one cause that what I have 🙂

And been while dooms

[solar sable]

Escalations are not meant to be run by new players, it's not something you can handle very easily at an early stage

[grim pawn]

I wouldnt say im to new. ran up to level 6 so far with a team.

just feel i could be doing more damage

[summer flax]

after 7 hours this is what i managed to get. it'll do until i get better 🙂

within that 7 hours i only got 2 pieces with the echo augment.

[cinder karma]

Good news is you can reroll them

Bad news is that it gets insanely pricey as you do so

[summer flax]

Well I'll get there eventually.

[smoky latch]

Make sure the rolls on the gear are good so it's worth spending hundreds of cores per item (on average)

[cinder karma]

Yeah it takes time. I managed to get a few good pieces today running tier 7. Whole squad nearly wiped 5 times had none of us been running birdies and hand holding

[onyx sage]

i was hotswapping between vigi and birdies like crazy today

[summer flax]

alrightie

[cinder karma]

It is pretty nice being able to hot swap when necessary

[summer flax]

we cycled from 5 to 6 tbh. higher levels kinda stressful

[cinder karma]

5 or 6 is a good sweet spot to run. My group went slightly higher since we had the DPS for it

[shut kindle]

is this ok?

[onyx sage]

yes it's goated

[shut kindle]

Ok, what should i use with it?

[onyx sage]

lexi works, i like a secondary that works in any range myself

you can also use bighorn, sweet dreams, backfire, or anything similar depending on the mission

[last cove]

Sweet dreams always a goated backup

[smoky latch]

Depends on the mission

Wouldn't use it in White Oak for instance

[shut kindle]

I like lex so much tho

[summer flax]

jesus.

[last cove]

It’s almost beautiful enough to make a grown man cry

Idk about that

[shut kindle]

NGL I kinda just did this to flex, I've got all my prototype gear maxed now

I'm sure there's others with the same somewhere

Although, I would still like to know if there's a more optimal build than what I have

[onyx sage]

i have to experiment with nego to see if it's at least competitive, but unlike striker it doesn't really scale with echo well

[exotic talon]

is it still the case that yellow cores are guaranteed to be maxed when prototyping

[onyx sage]

yes

[exotic talon]

i should get electrique knees with status effects and skill haste so i can roll it to red core

then eventually upgrade eclipse to proto w/ overdogs as the final piece

[smoky latch]

If you have four pieces proto EP I'd imagine red cores on the HE pieces are fine

[exotic talon]

i will when i get to expertise 30 and grind a shit load of mats

[shut kindle]

There's some named kneepads that are good for status builds

I think grease? Fyi

[exotic talon]

grease is worse than basic electrique knees, the 1pc brand set boost is useless
electrique knees with status gets you +20%, grease is +16%

however going without an exotic, instead 1pc electrique and grease, is +36% status

+49% with proto grease and electrique

[quiet wren]

Is lexington better than st elmo for striker?

[soft crane]

Yes

[smoky latch]

Depends. Elmo for sustained damage, Lexington for burst damage

[soft crane]

Lex can have damage talent though

[quiet wren]

Why if you don´t mind me asking? I have a couple I got over my short playtime, and I finally got a st elmo to drop thinking it was the BiS

[quiet wren]

ok, I see

[quiet wren]

Which one is best? I have killer on the one I'm running I think

[smoky latch]

Elmo has the bigger mag but no damage talent, but you get occasional CC

[soft crane]

Killer for solo, Measured for group.

[pallid harness]

For tipping scales escalation build is it better to have a red hollowman with ceska chest or with overdogs?

[smoky latch]

Come T5 you want the TS chest I'd say.

Overdogs works in that build

If you don't wanna use Overdogs just use Ceska

[junior lagoon]

Elmo will always be in my heart

Friend of new players, loyal as a dog, strong as steel

[smoky latch]

lol

[junior lagoon]

Will not let you down

[soft crane]

nah, nothing is as loyal as overDOGS.

[vernal wing]

@hazy steeple

🔨

@pearl atlas

[pearl atlas]

[quiet wren]

oki, I'll recalibrate another then. Thanks!

[quiet wren]

just read measured description and it doesn´t really seem special for group play,. what is it that makes it the best??

[solar sable]

it is very special and it's generally the best talent if you don't like Killer

It's basically bc of the TWD from the bottom half

[quiet wren]

ok

[solar sable]

AFAIK**

[soft crane]

Sorry cant answer. Im in a fight.

[flint arch]

sir, you forgot about the RoF of the first half

[solar sable]

wah wah wah 15% AR DMG + 20% Weapon DMG is more DMG than 30% Overdogs AMP

[flint arch]

[summer flax]

thoughts on "Gear Shift"?

[flint arch]

its meh, perfect measured needs you to use the whole mag or you lose out on damage compared to normal measured

mk46 is better w/ frenzy imo

[summer flax]

dont have any decent ones

[stone python]

Been looking for Hotshot protos with HS. this one was dropped by an agent :/

[flint arch]

for general use gear shift is okay, but i would definitely not bring it into escalation or something

but a mg5 with killer/measured will be better than gear shift for general use

[solar sable]

Perfect Measured has to be the Temu Frenzy

[stone python]

Which piece should i look for the Hotshot build. Mask, kneepads, holster?

[stone python]

i have to farm holster and mask from pentagon

[summer flax]

well i throw some stuffs at the crafting board and gotten the talent i was missing.

lowkey dont think ill get a prototype to drop so ill use expertise on it

[rocky igloo]

what helps incoming heals for my siker and heal drone

[soft crane]

Repair skill. Not sure why incoming repair is a thing since it only works for yourself.

[rocky igloo]

i want 4 my self

[ember roost]

I have a really dumb question. Been going through getting some Striker Prototypes and was curious if they are still better to equip even if they do not have the optimal stats? Like all red cores, or crit?

[soft crane]

You definitely need the right attributes.

Either crit chance or crit damage but it all depends on your current stats.

[ember roost]

Got it. Then pretty much all the gear I got today is junk

[smoky latch]

Blessed be RNG

[ember roost]

Well my backpack has crit on it at least

And my holster.

Thanks for the advice! I will just have to keep on grinding

[ember roost]

Striker Chest or Equalizer? I am seeing a lot of debate on that.

[soft crane]

Equalizer.

[delicate hill]

Depends on the content you are doing

[soft crane]

Chest is Escalation only.

[delicate hill]

If you are doing escalation at like tier 4+ you will want the striker chest

[ember roost]

Ah got it.

[delicate hill]

Basically if you max out the stacks quickly/easily it would be worth increasing the max cap for it

[ember roost]

Makes sense. I have seen talks of Overdogs vs Coyote, but I really like Overdogs.

[smoky latch]

Nobody uses Coyote for Escalation

[ember roost]

I was in a party with 2 people who did. rofl

[smoky latch]

It's Overdogs vs. Ceska

[smoky latch]

Yeah nothing surprises me build wise in Escalations anymore

[soft crane]

Just randoms being randoms.

[hybrid leaf]

yay successful strikers rotation

I've got my five bits CHC and echo with a few extra CHD bits just in case

[ember roost]

My strikers stuff isn't expertised all the way yet for the greens.

And I am still working on getting my weapons up.

[hybrid leaf]

Meh i'm only 19 expertise haha

[soft crane]

25 here

[hybrid leaf]

Would be really nice to proto my Lexington but i'll get there eventually

[timid token]

Sadly I’m 5 expertise:(

[soft crane]

Also see this is why Prototype is all about fomo.

Not even 1K SHD and already be wearing proto.

[hybrid leaf]

Okay if we are making confessions, I was a good two years into the game before I really began understanding the expertise system. Including that you could donate gear to level up haha

[smoky latch]

FOMO is the wrong term, it's a shortcut

[hybrid leaf]

Now whenever i'm clearing my inventory I donate everything possible to expertise, then deconstruct

[timid token]

That what I been doing but take forever lol

[soft crane]

Im not even wearing a single piece of proto.

[hybrid leaf]

get to 1k SHD then build up your points in wait for an expertise surge

[timid token]

Proto kinda useless ngl

[hybrid leaf]

Printer filament is the most efficient material to donate to expertise. However, the most cost-efficient way to get printer filament is to trade SHD for money and then buy mods and deconstruct them hahaha it's very long-winded

[toxic knoll]

Great, keep pulling that ladder up behind you tho, definitely.

[soft crane]

They fixed that.

[hybrid leaf]

Ooh, for the better? What did they change

[soft crane]

Better off getting printer filament straight away from the watch.

[timid token]

So do I just set target loot assault rifle for faster grind expertise

[hybrid leaf]

oh thank god

I've got 200 SHD points waiting and about 5k countdown points for named caches

Question - why do people choose stack broker over Lefty...?

Am I doing something wrong haha

[solar sable]

for what build?

bc if we're talking about Strikers w/Chest, then it's bc of the RoF
if it's for a Healer, makes no sense using it

[open saddle]

Big Al, bullet king or MK46 which one is better in escalations?

[smoky latch]

MK46/M249 with Frenzy

At least T6+

Below it doesn't really matter

Also depends on your build

[open saddle]

Stikers

[solar sable]

what INF said

[ember roost]

I played Division 1 a lot across various platforms and got Division 2 when it came out. When it came to end game, I was getting irritated with collecting gear only for them to nerf the hell out of it repeatedly. I took a break, came back. Took a long break and came back right before the anniversary started and been playing ever since. Also I am making sure I am doing tiers that I can handle with Negotiators deliemma.

[hybrid leaf]

striker, w/o chest.

[solar sable]

[hybrid leaf]

Just my general strikers build (overdogs or whatever the critty hitty exotic gas mask is) and equalizer

[last cove]

Coyotes

[solar sable]

that's not even the point

[solar sable]

acs just doesnt fit in Standard Strikers

[hybrid leaf]

I like lefty for perfect sledgehammer and just do get stacks up REAL fast

[solar sable]

but you're risking getting killed by being so close to the enemy

[rocky igloo]

can u craft with yellow core

catharsis

[solar sable]

no

[hybrid leaf]

I have become very good at blind firing from cover hahaha

and if i'm soloing I'll usually be using memento + shield

[rocky igloo]

im told catharsis come with a yellow core

[solar sable]

blue

[smoky latch]

Can't go any more blue

[solar sable]

WHY ARE YOU BLUE?!

[hybrid leaf]

I feel like i've been too lucky with proto drops the last 24h.... I'm definitely never going to get equalizer to drop lol

[lapis hare]

What would be the best passive modifiers for the Global Modifier?

[hybrid leaf]

@lapis hare Depends on what you want to achieve 🙂

[lapis hare]

Mmm let’s say I wanted to go for a bit more survivability

[lapis hare]

Oh I like this. Thank you!

What does PFE mean?

[hybrid leaf]

protection from elites

[lapis hare]

🤦🏻‍♂️ thank you!

[hybrid leaf]

I usually just run max weapon efficiency for DPS. Pretty basic and boring haha

[lapis hare]

Think I may try the PFE one. Because some of those elites are annoying. 😂

[sudden maple]

Hi guys I really need the prototype gear, so far I have a mask and holster(striker) I've tried so many times to push myself but I die in tier 2 or 3 please help. JFPgunsmith that is my ubi name thanks

[hybrid leaf]

you can get insane value out of a few blue cores if you run a hybrid build

[smoky latch]

if you don't have a solid build for those tiers yet then you don't need prototype gear yet

[lapis hare]

I run striker with memento.

[sudden maple]

I believe this is solid.

And I'm running solo

[smoky latch]

Nah it's not for Escalations

[hybrid leaf]

perfect! Figure out then if u want more DMG or armour haha

I usually run 2x blue cores on my memento striker build for solo campaign-type content

[lapis hare]

Sadly I want both! 😩😂😂

[atomic anchor]

anyone already making plans for their pvp build for next season

[smoky latch]

Do you mean for the PvE DZ?

[atomic anchor]

either

[hybrid leaf]

Do you have decent aim?

[smoky latch]

Require totally different builds

[hybrid leaf]

There is a combination that gives a big headshot damage boost AND magazine size AND armour...

[atomic anchor]

not for me i just curious if ppl already planning builds

[lapis hare]

You use total armor or armor on kill for your blue core mod slot on memento?

[smoky latch]

If you go into the actual DZ or the new "equalized" DZ or whatever it's called, you will need different builds

[atomic anchor]

idk if i will play seems next season is maining pve pvp focus so i dont really know

well ik everything is nuffed lol

nerf

[hybrid leaf]

total armour

[smoky latch]

Balance changes for PvP are in the making, yes

[atomic anchor]

seems pointless imo so

[hybrid leaf]

Honestly it's been a long time since I used my memento build. I don't even have it saved anymore lol. I just have all-red escalation build xD

[atomic anchor]

they rather nerf it instead dealing with the real issues oh well

[hybrid leaf]

I also believe memento is getting NUKED soon. Big nerf coming 🙁

[atomic anchor]

so no? nobody making plans for builds im trying to find a reason to not go back to bowling

[lapis hare]

Nooo!! Why?!! Why they gotta kill stuff that helps with survival??!!

[hybrid leaf]

Apparently they're also murdering quickstep lol reducing movement speed from +20% to +8%.....

[lost wren]

if they do nerf it it will be a genuinely baffling decision

not that it’s a bad exotic, but it’s only good up to heroic and maybe legendary if you’re willing to kneecap a good chunk of your damage by not running 6 reds

[atomic anchor]

yeah thats a big no no

funny how the fun is this game really turns into a slap in the face

[lapis hare]

I mean if they wanna need stuff like that then they should nerf difficulty a bit. No reason to make things more difficult. But that’s my opinion.

[lost wren]

i’m more saying that it’s not a meta option in the slightest

why are we trying to kneecap something that isn’t meta lol

[hybrid leaf]

I'm not sure if it's just rumour or if it's been confirmed but I can definitely see the rationale behind some nerfs. But it surprises me the things they're allegedly going to nerf...

Bc with all the proto changes etc the end-game isn't very challenging anymore lol

but proto isn't what they're nerfing soooo...?

Surprised to see they aren't nerfing overdogs actually

[lapis hare]

Ah, true. Although kind of weird it isn’t meta. It’s pretty good. Guess it’s nice for people who haven’t gotten the SHD lvl that maxes all the perks.

[true depot]

does anyone know a good capacitor build

[lost wren]

it's solid don't get me wrong, but there are so many better options and meta options for better dps

[lapis hare]

If it’s due to that, then it sucks even more since some people aren’t even at that stage of the game yet.

[lapis hare]

Most likely. I kind of got a bit tired of how glass canon pure red core striker was. Die so damn fast. Least I do right now since I’m still working on leveling my SHD. 158 right now.

[hybrid leaf]

I just don't see why all of a sudden they'd nerf something as ancient as memento

[lapis hare]

For sure. Definitely weird.

[rocky igloo]

is there a incoming repairs mod ?

[ember roost]

Why? It already takes forever to get to one place to the other.

[atomic anchor]

bc that would just be too much fun smh

[toxic knoll]

unless it's specifically announced in the change log, or referenced in the PTS then it's a rumour.

[last cove]

This a good holster?

[turbid python]

Can someone give me an easy to get beginner build. I’m SHD lvl 6 and need something easy to make that’s effective. I usually like a damage/armor build, never been good at a skill build.

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[rocky igloo]

is there a incoming repairs mod ?

[subtle bluff]

Yes. Worthlesss

[subtle bear]

guys would striker with skill core work at all ?

[solar sable]

with capa yes

[subtle bear]

capa ?

like the set would be carrying the damge and using skills would help with more output is what i'm thinking but idk if it will work

[summer totem]

Mr chow what AR talent good to mix with tinkerer

Is measured and killer the only way?

[subtle bluff]

eh..

[livid sorrel]

sadist is the obvious choice with OD builds

[summer totem]

Go on

Striker tinkerer

[livid sorrel]

probably something like measured strained for groups

[soft crane]

Sadist + Strained

OD definitely need CHD on top of all weapon damage buffs.

[livid sorrel]

maybe streamlined

[subtle bluff]

just not worth imo

[livid sorrel]

technician OD sadist + flatline

[summer totem]

For solo?

I feel like strained isnt that good

For AR

[frosty rivet]

I take one look in here and see quickstep is getting nerfed

[livid sorrel]

solo striker? killer measured

[livid sorrel]

only for pvp and dz

[summer totem]

Is it?

[subtle bluff]

Uh..

context helps.

[frosty rivet]

We're getting the jogstep

[subtle bluff]

For PvP...

[frosty rivet]

Oh I wouldn't really mind either way, that's just literally the first thing I saw flipping through the channels

[barren mica]

In a hotshot build with overdogs, what do overdogs do? Do they increase the damage cap, or just allow you to reach it with less suboptimal shots fired?

[subtle bluff]

You first shot can do a lot more.

[barren mica]

But the cap remains the same?

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no. When proc sure it does but it's not needed for it

[barren mica]

Right, it's because I've been using a SOCOM MMR with determined talent as a secondary for when enemies are swarming me

[subtle bluff]

You want a bolt speed MMR

[barren mica]

What do you recommend? Been using white death as the main one, which should be fine right? It's more because I found I also need one without a scope attached so I can get quick kills without the scoping/unscoping interfering

I assume bolt speed will be higher damage/cap but lower firerate

[subtle bluff]

The slower they are the more dmg but you really don't need too much to get it started

The content you're on will dictate dmg you need to do in turn what weapon you should use.

[hybrid leaf]

Anything worth farming today in escalation?

Could aim for prototype The Setup backpack

[buoyant perch]

Ongoing

[smoky latch]

Depends on your builds and interests

[hybrid leaf]

Zero interest hahaha

[shut kindle]

Is crit chance Vs crit damage all 1:2 now other than brand set bonus?

[stone python]

You should really invest in Proto OD it's a great build for Retaliations.

[hybrid leaf]

What mission is it on?

[subtle bluff]

To note: #ask-td2-community Pinned has it all

[shut kindle]

Imho proto is only worth going for if you're doing escalations, it's simply not needed for any other content and is overkill. And for escalations OD is useless ATM

[stone python]

DARPA

[hybrid leaf]

ew :P\

[haughty harness]

Well it makes legendary fun lol

[hybrid leaf]

Oooooh LMG caches LFG time to spend all my tokens lol

[subtle bluff]

Kill bot plz. @pearl atlas

[cinder karma]

What's the max tier you've gotten to so far with it?

[stone python]

I use proto OD with Tinkerer and Ceska backpack with Wicked + 2 GR9s one with Sadist the other with (completely forgot the talent)

[stone python]

Tier 6

[cinder karma]

Tier 6 isn't exactly easy so well done, especially using OD as well

[stone python]

No sorry I use OD only for Retaliations not escalations btw

That's what I meant

I farmed tier 6 for OD.

@cinder karma this is the build in question.

[cinder karma]

Truthfully I would flip your LMGs around. The other one would do more damage. Unless if pressure point needs to be the first talent due to a tink bug

[smoky latch]

First one has the right attributes tho

[shut kindle]

Tbh 99% of the time, correct attributes is better than random prototype stats

So this is probably better in his situation

[exotic talon]

now that we know pve dz has normalized stats, this build has a point

[buoyant perch]

Honestly determined should be disabled or working as the text actually says in the DZ

[barren mica]

So I just got a pretty decent diamonback, is it good?

[summer totem]

How much stats were toned down in DZ

[subtle bluff]

Pictures without context.... 👍

[subtle bluff]

I feel like this is a #1507342919781318778 question

[exotic talon]

it is pretty fun since the guaranteed crits let you double dip on chd and hsd forgoing chc attributes entirely
otherwise its just an 1886

pretty good with nego for the same reason

[summer totem]

No access

@subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

Go look at the channels.

There's a PTS channel

[summer totem]

How does obliterate work is it total WD or base WD of the specific weapon

Im trying to weigh the damage per hit on fenris chest plate with oblit and equalizer

[subtle bluff]

I wanna try it ok escalation since they they can take it. Lol

[subtle bluff]

Here

[summer totem]

Yeh it doesn't explain the question ToT

What im wondering is

10% ar damage with obliterate or 5% fire rate with perfect obliterate in damage per hit

[mint basin]

Can someone explain to me why I can’t level up my augment?

[atomic anchor]

Obliterate grants Total Weapon Damage (TWD). When you land a critical hit, it increases your total damage by 1% per stack, stacking up to 20 times (20% maximum). (The Perfect Obliterate version found on Equalizer named chest piece increases this up to 24 times for a 24% maximum).

[sullen night]

Looks like a bug, have you tried re-logging?

[summer totem]

Okay thanks my soul has been answered

[atomic anchor]

you have to unfav it and cant have it equip so maybe try that

[mint basin]

Yeah I tried last night as well so about 15 hours ago from now.

[sullen night]

Hm, sorry no idea, try what Skeith said, though I never had to do that 🤔

[atomic anchor]

i had to look it up myself cause i didnt even know how to answer that lol

[sullen night]

To be fair it does say "total weapon damage" in the obliterate ingame description

[mint basin]

I’ve never had to do that before when levelling up augments. That’s only when upgrading to prototypes.

[atomic anchor]

yeah i just do it everytime so idk it was just upgrading otherwise i have no idea

[mint basin]

Same I’ve had to do that either.

[sullen night]

Man I can't type at all today 😩

[atomic anchor]

yeah not everyone knows it just means that

[atomic anchor]

makes you feel any better i get my words mix up sometimes

[mint basin]

I’ve just tried your suggestion and that didn’t work either.

[atomic anchor]

yeah put in a ticket for it to get fixed

gotta be a bug or som mate

[sullen night]

Maybe it's missing like 5 xp and the xp display rounds it to 100%? I doubt it, but it's really weird

[atomic anchor]

i wonder if a character is not at 30 expertise maybe that plays into a factor? maybe ppl gotta be at lvl 30 expertise

to lvl up augment i mean, just wondering if that what it could be

[subtle bluff]

Uh?
Fenris Obli vs P. Obli right?
SWD/AWD < CHD < RoF < CHC < TWD < AMP

[atomic anchor]

so this is a no just looked that up

gotta be a bug or som then

[mint basin]

I’m halfway through the augment levels.

[atomic anchor]

yeah just saw that idk mate, beats me

[regal dock]

can someone please explain to me how's the Core strength gearset works? im still a bit confused by how it calculate cores and all

[sullen night]

Anything in particular? It's honestly really straight forward, not sure what exactly's unclear

[mint basin]

It looks like it’s a visual bug so when it’s 100% it will be only 95%

[sullen night]

for example if you have a full yellow core CS set, you also get 40% or 75% (if you use the chest) of 4 red cores (weapon damage) and 4 blue cores (armor) from your CS pieces

[mint basin]

This is my core strength build.

[atomic anchor]

that does make sense and would explain it, thx for sharing so rest of us know. ya know just in case it happens more than one of us

[mint basin]

Not a problem.

[subtle bluff]

🤮 I knew was gonna happen since it came back in rotations..

[atomic anchor]

im just glad u figured it out think that would tick me off lol

[dusty prawn]

Good day guys im sorry for basic Q but im returning and new player can u get advice ? for solo /escalation (max t4). I play striker with lexinton and main weapon rly dont know what use i have EB big alejandro pestilence ( i like that weapon) rly dont know what use. my dps is around 12mil wich i guess is low

[subtle bluff]

It’s really up to you and your playstyle/gameplay.

It would not be EB or Pesti for sure.

[dusty prawn]

they are bad ?

[subtle bluff]

EB isn’t great and Pesti to be good would be on a not striker builds for it.

[dusty prawn]

and big alejandro ? or chameleon ?

[subtle bluff]

Playstyle things.
Fixes you to a position. That’s a SMG that’s some how a AR.

If you’re not able to just RUN thru heroics normally imo you’re not running to solo +T3.

Since all escalation is a scaled up heroic

[dusty prawn]

i run normally hero with all directives

[subtle bluff]

I’m doesn’t make it that much more for some missions but that doesn’t make it scale differently.

[soft crane]

Whats your current build?

[subtle bluff]

What I mean more is even in heroics almost anything is viable in it if kwtd.
The point of saying running thru heroics is the knowledge of it.

[soft crane]

ImMrChow

[subtle bluff]

Yes?

[soft crane]

Nevermind.

[dusty prawn]

striker

[regal dock]

how can i get the best out of damage of core strength? any suggestion?

[subtle bluff]

Not use CS…

[regal dock]

i know its stupid but, hypothetically...

[subtle bluff]

It’s trying to be a Jack of all trades gearset but really it’s barely mid in 2 sections at once.

[flint arch]

🥹

[subtle bluff]

I can’t give you a real answer because I’d be lying to you since CS is not a DPS focus gearset.

[regal dock]

its better to be a skill centric for cs ?

[subtle bluff]

Same story.

[regal dock]

it fell into the hybrid thingy?

[subtle bluff]

It’s trying to a Jack of all trades but it can’t even do its middle degree.

It tried to be.

If anything it’s good in PvP

[regal dock]

hmmmm alright.

[regal dock]

i do have another question, any way shape or form i can use backfire optimally?
what build should i use? and how many hazproc should i aim for?

[subtle bluff]

Like not having tinkerer or overdogs in this build it’ll do more than CS.

[subtle bluff]

IMO it’s only good if you’re gonna fight long enough to keep its stacks up all the time.
I never use it withi hazpro.

It falls in the same things has Chameleon range.

[flint arch]

you can also just negate backfire bleed by spamming reload 3 times to gain temporary immunity

[subtle bluff]

Or hitting fulll stacks

[regal dock]

yea, i was thinking of using it in legendary runs. So, the usual full red striker with chest and backpack and salvo with overdogs?

[subtle bluff]

And don’t get me wrongg I use BF a lot because of incursion but else where it limits me due to range.

[regal dock]

or change overdogs with the bandaged gloves?(i forgot the name)

[flint arch]

striker chest isn't even that good in legendary

[regal dock]

its pretty alr as far as my experience with it... I do get it why you said it that way though.

[subtle bluff]

Only very few encounter you’re able to keep up the stacks past 75% if you’re understand P. Obli just does better and builds faster.

[regal dock]

alr, wb the gloves tho? overdogs or bloody gloves? ads wise

[subtle bluff]

I use overdogs but some sections I’ll swap off of it,

[regal dock]

alright, thanks

[halcyon sentinel]

since you got all crit chance from proto gear, what usually the 3rd stat for lmg? CD? Damage To Health/Armor?

[burnt tapir]

DtH is nice, CHC too

[subtle bluff]

If you're getting to above 200% CHD sure RoF/DTA/DTH.

But not CHD.... since that's only 10.

If you haven't figure it out. Weapon Attribute has the biggest number to get CHC from. Meaning you don't need as much else where. Then less you need to slot for CHC means you can slot for more CHD.

Remember normal amount on gear is 6/12.
Brandset is 8/13. Weapon Mods 5/10. Then weapon 3rd attribute is 9.5/10 (I don't actually recall if it's 9.5 or 10)

[summer totem]

My.brain fried

[subtle bluff]

DMG.
We want to do the most DPS/DMG.
To do so we need numbers.
But just one bigger number isn’t the best.
More numbers to make all the other number make more numbers is the key.

Or this simpler case.
5010 x 20 x 100 =10,020,000
Vs
5000 x 24 x 112 =13,440,000

[hybrid leaf]

Is big Alejandro just part of loot pool now? I wanna get it to try with TS and overdogs as an alternative to my tinkerer TS build

[soft crane]

yes

Got it from an exotic cache few days ago

[hybrid leaf]

OK countdown it is then lmao

Hmm I do have lots of countdown points haha but I'd rather save those for expertise surge

[haughty harness]

Anyone use foam launcher and seeker on a hardwired build?

[subtle bluff]

Yes?

[soft crane]

Mr. Chow uses everything. Even deflector shield, trust.

[shut kindle]

Is the investor part of loot pool now?

I want one yellow, one blue, one red ideally, but will work on this after I've finished my proto build

If only one idk if I go blue or red

[soft crane]

yeh

[exotic talon]

rainbow investor sucks

oh wait you mean one of each mono color

[summer flax]

from PTS. striker gonna go hard in the new pve darkzone

i got my hands on a full proto typed + frenzy set up and its so strong it feels like cheating

[junior lagoon]

what was the formula for max magazine size in modifiers?

saturate-cascade-convert 2?

[smoky latch]

No, since it came out this season. It should be next season

[exotic talon]

compress offense, nullify, convert offense 2

[junior lagoon]

gives 290 mag to alejandro

[fossil crag]

pve dz lol that a x2 negative

lol lol PVE DZ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

[summer flax]

ikr but its what it is

[fossil crag]

Whats next vegan game play 🤣

no wait that is a PVE DZ HAHAHAHAHAHA

[smoky latch]

It should be called something different entirely lol

[fossil crag]

Yes, "Mistake!"

[exotic talon]

i mean it is a very cool concept
i have yet to see it in execution
but they could definitely find a better name for the season launch

instead of being challenging because you can get jumped by players at any time, its challenging because you can get jumped by cheating npcs instead

[fossil crag]

no its not it kills the games whole idea, history, and its a bind the knee You give thema inch they take a mile

[exotic talon]

its not that deep man

besides its only 1 zone out of 3 each week

[fossil crag]

For Div 1 OG player yes it kinda is

[smoky latch]

PvE and DZ doesn't fit

[fossil crag]

its liek saying plant based Stake........ Tofu fried chicken......

[smoky latch]

Just call it Temu Survival

Would make more sense

[haughty harness]

Vile mask on eclipse Vs investors with all yellow rolls ??

[exotic talon]

oh no the game mode that had pve against large groups of strong enemies with a last stand for extraction is getting a seasonal variant that focuses more on that, the game completely lost its identity, the horror

[fossil crag]

2 tots diff effects, vile is to spread the love

Investors is a money dump LOL

[smoky latch]

Fire?

[exotic talon]

full yellow investor is better for straight skill dps builds, vile works with all kinds of eclipse but if you are using a damage status overdogs amps that

[smoky latch]

Skill DPS 🤔

[smoky latch]

Assuming firestarter?

[exotic talon]

yellow attributes on investor give you skill efficiency dont they

[fossil crag]

overdogs....🙄 🥱 😂 🤮 🫃

[odd pebble]

how can i farm tipping scales items fastest ?

[smoky latch]

Targeted loot

But not Summit

[twin parcel]

Current build im trying out for the past few days in my spare time, seems to work pretty well for survivability, but damage seems way lower than my Strikers memento counterpart, especially in group play. However in group play (Heroic CD) memento isnt the most ideal pick. Unsure what to change. HB Bonus Armor covers me pretty well while ADRush is on cdown. And adrush covers for HB Bonus armor depletion while offering some weapon damage. Crusader shield seems to be made out of paper even in heroic now....
Looking for something for solo heroic, that can actually stand against a hunter. Preferably something that doesn't rely on kills, incase it is brought into Countdown.

stat page in case anyone wants to vomit at chc+chd numbers (pain of balancing blue and red)

[haughty harness]

Fire eclipse build

[wary belfry]

i got maxxed out proto strikers even dropped some perfects stats for my friends i kept getting extra all day

[smoky latch]

Do you have a full yellow Investor? If not, not worth rerolling because it'll eat up all your exo comps usually. Vile is very solid

[haughty harness]

I alr have full yellow investor

[smoky latch]

Well then try it out. Not many people have that and I haven't seen any tests

[smoky latch]

Bro can drop spamming your crap here pls?

[smoky latch]

You should also try Overdogs, the damage amp is not bad. See what you like best - requires you to use the Technician spec maybe

@hexed steppe has more first hand info on this as he tested it

[haughty harness]

Overdogs on skill build??

[smoky latch]

Yes, they're an amplifier

[shut kindle]

These are rookie numbers

[haughty harness]

Amplifies weapon damage only tho

[smoky latch]

Means a multiplier in the damage calculation

[timid token]

Ewww summit

[shut kindle]

I like summit tbh, better than CD

[haughty harness]

It literally says there tho, I'm in game

[shut kindle]

Retals is better than both

Still need to do some more retals for the last comms

[timid token]

Ye retal better just can’t heroic on retail 😂

[shut kindle]

Oh, rip

[timid token]

To hard

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[haughty harness]

Huh

You mean overdogs amps skill damage too?

[shut kindle]

Got any good guns then or you just have a load of very average gear?

[wary belfry]

yea

[timid token]

St Elmo always 🙂

[shut kindle]

...no

[timid token]

Shame lol

[wary belfry]

my 190 mag lmg

[timid token]

Nice

[shut kindle]

It's not bad, which lmg is it? And what talent?

[timid token]

And it proto

[wary belfry]

my ar only looked for health damage

[wary belfry]

frenzy

[shut kindle]

I'm guessing its an m60 or something?

[wary belfry]

blackmarket m60

[shut kindle]

That's not bad at all tbh

[timid token]

Also have ? Can I get capacitor in countdown or no

[shut kindle]

I'm not an expert on what drops from where anymore, it used to be that you could only get a drop for a lot of these items if you had first earned them the intended way, but I think they accidentally broke this system and just left it

🤷‍♂️

[timid token]

Ah

[timid token]

That fine

[shut kindle]

It's easy to get in summit tbh, took me like an hour and a half

And it's guaranteed

[timid token]

But ik I can get it from my loot pool just need material and don’t want to grind it for some reason

[shut kindle]

You can just target other loot you need while you're there and do two things at once

I've spent wayyy too much time in summit tbh, I had to do the commendations there, it was hell

[timid token]

That why I hate summit it hell lol 😂

Rogue agent there to

[shut kindle]

It's easy, it was just it took like weeks of grinding it

I can do a full run 0-100 then I'm done and I have to do something else for a bit, but I had to do full runs like 40 times or something

[timid token]

Rogue agent and hunter take my bullet

[shut kindle]

I just bait them to certain areas where it's easier to kill them

[timid token]

I can’t kill them cause am striker

[shut kindle]

I use striker

[timid token]

Dam nice

[timid token]

Oh it say I have to complete 5 summit challenge aw man lol I search it up

[shut kindle]

Some of them are easy

It's also 5 summit challenges in one run

[timid token]

Is it in project

[shut kindle]

But yeah just go for things like headshots and weak points. When you go into summit, like actually in the mission, challenges appear across the top

[timid token]

K

[hexed steppe]

overdogs, hands down. overdogs is like adding a second ep bag. tech class if no proto, or preferred spec if you have 2 proto skilltiers

overdogs > vile > investor

[haughty harness]

Overdogs amps my fire damage?

[hexed steppe]

fire, explosive, oxi, and weapon damage

[haughty harness]

Why does the game say only weapon damage. Shit is confusing

[hexed steppe]

there are a lot of descriptions that are flawed. this is why we test everything

fire sticky on that setup ticks for over 1mil

with ambush it gets rediculous

[haughty harness]

If so, why not blacklisters lol

Does it work too?

[hexed steppe]

whats the amp on black listers

[haughty harness]

20% on everything except one

[hexed steppe]

i think blacklisters were supposed to be all damage afaik

last time i used them, they were still bugged as overdogs

[haughty harness]

Like u sticky one guy, and everything gets the 20% and since eclipse spreads

[grand swan]

If I run a all red Heartbreaker build, will the Harvester Mutator count that as "armor"?

[dreamy valve]

Are you using a KDI Kard for it?

[hexed steppe]

no, skill tier proto pieces have 1.5 skilltiers

green are proto, color blind mode

[solar sable]

is it Tritanopia the one that keeps the purple glint?

[flint arch]

yes

the other modes turn protos into aggressively radioactive green and aggressively toxic green

[solar sable]

I'm gonna aggressively use Quantum NBB Foundry Bulwark to aggressively play T10 Escalations

on purpose, I need a full Quantum PVGC Strikers set

[grand swan]

Since Striker and Tipping Scales seem to be the go-to for red build for ESC...my question is, why not Negotiators Delemma? Max CC plus the backpack seems to be a strong combo. Whats yalls thoughts?

[flint arch]

I hate you

[onyx sage]

aid specialist and harvester punish you for not having strong single target damage. it's why you don't see nego used a lot

[exotic talon]

god, if only the talent was good

[lone violet]

???

[brazen barn]

is that any good ? though the talent is trash

[exotic talon]

holy shit proto sleigher

[exotic talon]

sledgehammer is pretty strong actually, but maybe not ideal for a dps player

[brazen barn]

can you recommend any builds for that

[exotic talon]

just put it on striker man its an lmg
remember to throw a grenade before shooting

[hexed steppe]

sledge is good for support builds, unfortunately most of those also use opportunistic. perfect sledge on lefty is the only way sledge is really used. nice proto core tho 💯

[copper yarrow]

On a MMR headshot build, what would be the next next chest talent after chainkiller?

[smoky latch]

Focus

[copper yarrow]

Ty, appreciate it

[icy jasper]

For those that run teri 10 is skull builds still good or do they fall off after a certain teir

[smoky latch]

Just FI healer

[icy jasper]

Rip

[flint arch]

eclipse foam is also workable but you need very strong DPS to follow up and you better memorize all the spawns

[buoyant perch]

If you have strong DPS, FI foam still works better

[cinder sail]

Replace coyotes mask with tipping scales backpack for striker build?

[buoyant perch]

No, why would you want TS backpack in a striker build?

[summer totem]

Can armor regen get amplified by repair related stats?

[cinder sail]

Just saw a comment on Reddit, thought let’s ask here @buoyant perch

https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/s/X0V33MqpFP

[buoyant perch]

It's a tipping scale build, not striker

[exotic talon]

i wish royal works brand set boosts were worth using bulldog over vigilance airaldi

[bright raptor]

well this is why the non-prototype meta still hasn't shifted that much outside Overdogs and Perfect Obliterate

[pale socket]

anyone have a pesti build i could use?

[weak pike]

Does the slow from overlord pellets count as status?

[junior lagoon]

It must be in the pinned sheet

[subtle bluff]

It may not be since there is no status effect listed for "slow"

It's on its own things since it's one of the very few things that work on wright when he's on fire.

[thorn glade]

which has more damage of Ravenous between headshot or crit?

[subtle bluff]

What?!

[thorn glade]

？

sry my English might be confused

What is "what" btw?

[subtle bluff]

Are you just asking what does more dmg in general HSD or CHD?

[thorn glade]

um

yes

[subtle bluff]

That's basically what you asked. Just don't understand why Rav in that question.

CHD has a higher amount 12 vs 10 HSD but requires CHC and then HSD requires HS.

Do you see where this is going?

[thorn glade]

Geez i was really insane wtf am i asking

my bad it's EASY one forget about it

and thanks to advice

[subtle bluff]

You asked specific which the real answer is very general question.

DPS wise.

more context to question I could give a better answer.

[thorn glade]

i mean
Ravenous has exploding? damage right? And it depends on weapon damage then which has more damage between crit or hs?

am i still asking general question...?

[subtle bluff]

when we're talking about Rav has doing stuff it's rather niche due it's talent. It's better has secondary weapon than a primary for the efforts it can be done better.
Rav niche dmg is super powerful but only when the niche is used.

[thorn glade]

hmm, gusee it's not good for primary then

well, I'm really thankfull to you, appreciate

[soft crane]

I dont understand. How is it niche if it acts as a regular DPS weapon? You think people are struggling on how to use it properly?

[subtle bluff]

It's talents make it do more when you stack on the right thing.

[soft crane]

If you're looking for a Ravenous build I got one right here.

[subtle bluff]

It can be used.

But again it's more effort than something else.

[thorn glade]

well i have a build but it's actually niche and not quite good one thou

[soft crane]

Oooh ok

[soft crane]

Im certain there are harder to use builds in general than Ravenous.

[thorn glade]

no photos so i explane
mask is chillout,
bag is gila with Adrenaline rush,
armor is rigdeway,
and gloves ang holsters are golan,
and kneepad is also gila

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no.

[thorn glade]

all of gear status is armor regen and headshot

[soft crane]

what?

[thorn glade]

yep, i know it's kinda bullsh*t

really freaking tank build

[subtle bluff]

You're trying to be a tank.. You're not suppose to do much dmg.

[thorn glade]

might be you're so right

maybe no needs btw but mod is all PfE

yeah. no needs for dps then

[mighty forum]

Can anyone show the current best 1886 build pretty please?

[subtle bluff]

There isn't a "best" overall.

Depends on what you're wanting and trying to do.

I will always say HHF is the best for solo

[mighty forum]

Farm Open world

[urban latch]

I would just do chainkiller, memento, and HF. Really simple and easy HH build to run with tons of bulk

[mighty forum]

Thanks

[hybrid arrow]

If I plan to use an lmg. Would TS be the way to go over striker? It seems with an lmg striker you could screw yourself by suppressing targets

[soft crane]

Goes the way around as well and Tipping has it worse.

If theres no enemy suppressed, you'll lose 6 stacks per second. Which is double the amount of Strikers when you have more than 100 stacks.

[hybrid arrow]

O i didn't think of that part

[subtle bluff]

Suppressing on TS just says you don’t lose stacks but you need to keep shooting to build stacks.

It’s 6 per sec and the max stack for is 50 and 75. So it’s VERY quick to lose it all.

[hybrid arrow]

Yeah I was just thinking that that's about 6 or 7 seconds and you lose it all

Striker's damage degrade definitely is more forgiving

[soft crane]

On top of what Mr. Chow said, getting stacks for Strikers is faster whereas for Tipping, the time needed to reach max stack is fixed.

10 seconds without chest piece
15 seconds with.

[hybrid arrow]

And 130% WD has gotta be way better than 35% handling and 400% crit when stacked

[subtle bluff]

130?

[hybrid arrow]

Ye 65 at 100 130 at 200 stacks right?

[mystic quiver]

if you dont take the backpack, (but you should)

[subtle bluff]

Without BP yes.

[hybrid arrow]

O forgot bp in the calc lol

[hybrid arrow]

Nice. Yea I'll be stashing the TS then lol. Was stuck on it just because it fools you into thinking that's THE lmg set

They're both effectively trying to do the same thing

[soft crane]

Billions must build stacks!

[hybrid arrow]

So the striker chest BP is better in much harder content than equalizer overdogs then? And then I guess I could throw the hollow man in contractor gloves on

[soft crane]

Its not a good set if it doesnt build stacks!

[soft crane]

Only viable in Escalation yes.

[hybrid arrow]

Equalizer overdogs for everything else then

[soft crane]

Otherwise its not needed anywhere else.