td2-build-advice

[shut kindle]

Either way, I'm down to test it with them if they're around

[dawn perch]

What is the talent on the lex and also i agree with that i might use that as primary simple due to how much los problem i have.

[versed summit]

well theres huntsman and burnout. the former having p frenzy & the latter having perfectly on empty

[iron plover]

Ah, nope. There's only Burn Out and Huntsman named FAMASses.

[shut kindle]

I see, I've got a few huntsmans in the stash, unlikely to get any decent proto rolls from it, but worth a shot

[onyx sage]

i must also note i'm not using mk46 as much anymore, am a negev main now...

[shut kindle]

I've got about 500 caretakers I need to proto anyway, for memes

[iron plover]

Nah, Frenzy is ass on FAMAS. Don't waste your resources.

You'll never get proper uptime for it.

[magic pilot]

Doesn't sync with reload

[shut kindle]

Im maxed on exotic and proto comps anyway, so I might as well do something with it

I ran out of lmg components to craft mk46d for the final roll

[iron plover]

That's only because you were dealing with a non-existent issue that literally no one else around was having, sir.

[onyx sage]

you literally have that problem sir...

[shut kindle]

What problem is it you guys were having

[onyx sage]

or i need my own Night Shift...

[iron plover]

I have perfect 100% uptime, tested it the other day.

[grand girder]

stop the capppppppp

[iron plover]

If we go escalate later, I'll show ya.

[grand girder]

I'll be blind if I'm wrong xD

[onyx sage]

you didn't disable gunner reload or 5% rof on kill perks? you only get the problem if you keep the rof perk procced consistently

[grand girder]

I could never take accountability to being wrong no sir

[shut kindle]

Is this the issue with mk46 where if you kill too quickly it doesnt proc the next mag?

[onyx sage]

yeah frenzy doesn't get procced on next mag

[shut kindle]

Yeah, I've had that a bit tbh

[grand girder]

you go from minigun to pebble shooter

[tidal swan]

I also have both, and I also have used both. I did solo T10 without modifiers on PTS with Lex. Now on live patch while T10 farming I only swap to Lex if my frenzy lmg runs out of ammo. Lex is not bad in that situation, but it sure is noticeably slower in ttk.

[onyx sage]

it's Toni, btw...

[iron plover]

Nope, I didn't.

Ohhh, maybe I just don't have this issue because I can't manage to kill anyone since you clear everything so fast, sir. 💀

[iron plover]

Nah. It's certified cheto.

[dawn perch]

Hmmm.... does mk with unhinged (it was all i can get prototype) with shrieff be a good combo?

[tidal swan]

huh?

[onyx sage]

...sir... i'll play support from now on just for you

[onyx sage]

cuz you were mentioned along with me earlier about running with Justin to see the TTK difference

[dawn perch]

That is what i call suffering from success

[solar sable]

Hello sir, I've seen your posts on Tiktok and I can clearly see that you are cheating.
My greatest hatred from Mexico.

[tidal swan]

yea I noticed... was gonna reply with the Limmy wake up meme at first but then there was something to reply to 😄

[onyx sage]

your name made me laugh

[shut kindle]

Ah, interesting, well I'm in the city ATM picking my gf up from the train station, but I might be around during the week if you guys are around and wanna do a t10 sometimes

[onyx sage]

I'm at work right now at least

[shut kindle]

Fml I hate how it keeps ahtocorrecting to "sometimes" I keep saying sometime

[iron plover]

Much appreciated.

[shut kindle]

Tbh, I had someone yesterday using core strength with murakami and it did crazy healing, I was surprised it was as good as it was

I have the build for PvP, but surprisingly it was actually usable for t10s

[onyx sage]

I'll be free in say 2 hours

[smoky latch]

Plis strem

[vernal wing]

If by “crazy healing” you mean the usual amount that a skill tier6/Overcharge build has then sure.

You want utility on healers though, not just healing.

FI has Damage Buff
Measured Assembly has proxy control
Refactor aggros enemies on the drones

[shut kindle]

While I agree, doing bunker his extra health came in useful, because he kited the boss while we cleared ads and then we focused the boss down after, worked out stupidly easy

If he was just pure healer that would have been a lot riskier

[vernal wing]

He was just a pure healer.

[shut kindle]

I don't find refactor much use on escalations tbh

It doesn't do enough damage to be good at DPS and it doesn't do enough healing to be good healing, it's just kind of this weird middle ground

[dawn perch]

It usually the emp that blows up the drone is why they stop being so useful though. But it is usually aggro control

[smoky latch]

Why kite the boss when you can get him down in 6-10s with three good LMG DPS?

[shut kindle]

Because I was the only good dps

I was running with a sub optimal team

Carrying some new players , is that ok? xD

[dawn perch]

Suboptimal as in gear wise?

[hazy steeple]

Weren't they a crazy good healer?

Be nicer to your healers, they get to decide if they rez you or not.

[shut kindle]

They were all 200-500SHD with no maxed even yellow builds. The core strength guy was a good healer, but he wasn't doing DPS was he

[dawn perch]

Also, i just as garbage due to try learn how peak.

[shut kindle]

Just blind fire 🔥🔥

Lol

[dawn perch]

I dive into danger just rez people. With only quick step and prayer that they do not shoot me.

[vernal wing]

Agitator 🤐

[dawn perch]

Rugged glove meta but seriously i need learn to peek better

[dawn perch]

Wot, explain

[iron plover]

Meh. Birdie's + decoy.

[dawn perch]

What the talent on agitator

I use birdies though

[vernal wing]

While the gun is holstered enemies shoot your teammates

[iron plover]

But what if they all are already shot and dead?

[vernal wing]

Then they are agitated

[dawn perch]

Which is what?

[smoky latch]

Number one pretend-to-be-good item

Rip format...

[lament reef]

now use it with those kneepads that give -50 threat

[iron plover]

Nah, please make it bigger again. Can't see what you typed there.

[smoky latch]

😭

It linked a channel so I added a SPACE which made it so big you could see it from space

[iron plover]

Added a space so we could see it from space. What a legend!

[dawn perch]

If does that i would run that just so that they not shoot me when rez people.

[stone python]

Pun entended?

[dawn perch]

Yeah nah that those kneepad do jack lmao.

[smoky latch]

In my native language it sounded better 😬

[iron plover]

Nah, I really like how it sounds.

[lament reef]

it would be really funny if we could reliably force aggro

best you can do is throw a decoy right in front of your friend

[smoky latch]

Add shouts à la "yo mama" jokes to aggro NPCs

[dawn perch]

For which the enemy emps or blows it up with one bullet. Mostly they just emp it =_=. I just pray mostly by god divine will i do not get shot.

[hazy steeple]

The existence of the Mosquito makes this way funnier.

[vernal wing]

Which language? 👀

[dawn perch]

Aggro is a suggestion.

[hazy steeple]

Overclock a Decoy and you'll see how powerful that radius is, for the 2 seconds it works.

[smoky latch]

Artificer hive to prolong its uptime

[hazy steeple]

I did it in the LZ once, and it legitimately pulled NPC's from a block away.

[subtle bluff]

How many times I’ve explain throw decoy behind the boss to point the boss with a flamerthrower and not between us and they not get it….

[hazy steeple]

I do find it funny whenever a teammate throws down their Decoy directly next to mine, as soon as I've thrown mine out.

"best friends"

[dawn perch]

The best 2 secs before the universe says no

[hazy steeple]

It's doing its job, little buddy is trying hard.

[dawn perch]

Mini me did its job before being sent to decoy heaven

[dawn perch]

Imagine a gear piece that just vicous mockery to aggro everyone. Slight drawback you take friendly fire damagw too

[small junco]

When building an FI build for higher tiers of Escalation, should I max Repair Skills as much as possible? Or try to fit in a Skill Haste a little bit?

[smoky latch]

SR on gear set, SR/SH on HE, SH mods is a good way

[junior lagoon]

i am guilty of that as well and the reason is i already decided and locked on the place

[lone violet]

Is there a way to level up expert to max? All I can think about is running count down and donating printer fil

[junior lagoon]

that is it really. it is a slow grind

[lone violet]

Dang

[junior lagoon]

you can wear items not fully proficient to countdown

[lone violet]

Well there’s a dps set up I gotta farm but after that imma be on count down for a good bit

Gonna rely on retal for gear farming then countdown for printer

[junior lagoon]

you can get same number of mods from retal

you can set target loot in retals juts like countdown

[lone violet]

Oh yeah but I think retal is faster no?

[junior lagoon]

could be, you gotta do more work in heroic retal then countdown usually

[sullen night]

Countdown is more "efficient" and braindead, but I find heroic retaliations much more fun, might depend on how you're feeling 😄 (also retal has alot of nice exotic blueprints). Best bet is to mix it up probably, as usual

[stone python]

When something like this drops it hurts lol Proto OD Echo with status effect 🙁

Keep or delete?

[sullen night]

i insta-delete any trash attribute

if you wanna play the long game in case they might add recalibration, you can do that though

[stone python]

Do you think the status effects att will help with the Tinkerer + bleeding build?

[sullen night]

idk that build sry

[smoky latch]

No, OD is for DPS/support

On top, bleed in PvE is the weakest status effect

[weak pike]

I wish it were better

[dawn perch]

behold this struggle bus of a bulid. Somehow this better than my striker build. I am at least not the floor 3/4 times. (1/4 for this thing)

since i am long range I might as well take advantage of shooting from 50m away at this point

[smoky latch]

Foam and fire both better in PvE

[smoky latch]

I doubt it's "better", the damage ceiling might be a bit higher but not sure

You can use Striker's from long ranges as well, it's not bound to any distance

[dawn perch]

the only reason it better for my playstyle at the moment is that i cannot build more than 25 stacks of striker without serious damage being taken. this build is more of interim build until i somehow master the art of not taking any damage.

[smoky latch]

Whatever works for you

[versed summit]

So you're able to build stacks more quickly with this?

[dawn perch]

yep. i can. I actually much easier to shoot (sometimes blind fire) for 10 secs rather than try to hit anything as I have accuracy of less than 50%. It both easy to lose the stacks as well as to gain it.

[stone python]

This guy's TS build hits with 6 mill crits mine hits less than that. Q is the armor piece worth equipping for the extra stacks?

[onyx sage]

not worth

you take 15s vs 10s to reach max potential, you can kill early targets faster with your current build

[stone python]

He has good Classic M60 with optimist and good rolls

[onyx sage]

optimist isn't good tbh

also you gotta realize dps is what you want to maximize, not per shot damage, if we're aiming for the highest per shot damage we'd all be using nemesis

[ocean wyvern]

"Use the right S for DPS, Damage per second, not per strike"

[weak pike]

True

[mild flame]

honest question for the build gurus....which one of these would be considered the better option for escalation?

between those two pieces

those are obviously Fox's Prayers in the first

[smoky latch]

Ew, Agitator

[mild flame]

yeah i just use that there for agro dump, but i have a proto AR i usually run in that slot

[versed summit]

I'd still run obliterate tbh

[smoky latch]

That's exactly why I said "ew"

[mild flame]

oh haha

ok so ignoring the agitator haha

[smoky latch]

I have used a Bluescreen TS build for a bit as support. With the chest, Overdogs and Fox's. Nothing special but it's alright

[junior lagoon]

is it normal to have 50 chcm 117 chd with striker-alejandro?

[lone violet]

i just want prototype gear already

[solar sable]

yes, Big Al doesn't have any mod slots

[junior lagoon]

should i bump chc 56 105 better? i guess slightly

[smoky latch]

Ye

Doomz will tell you how to know what is better

[solar sable]

CHC1 x CHD1
CHC2 x CHD2

Whatever is higher is better

[solar sable]

I think I'm functioning better with 5 hours of sleep than the usual 10

[junior lagoon]

also should i get magazine extension over headshot in modifiers with alejandro?

[smoky latch]

I knew you'd type it, like a Swiss clockwork

I can't sleep 10 hours lol

[subtle bluff]

I wish I could get to 10hrs once in a while..

[exotic talon]

i subscribe to the mmo definition of dps where its just the damage role

[surreal elk]

anyone got a decent built for negotiatos dilema to try ? kinda sick of striker on high escals

[halcyon crater]

nego isn't meant for high escal so it won't help you there

[shut kindle]

It's ok if you don't use the piece that brings it to 5 instead of 3, it's not meta but it's fine

[mint axle]

I thought it would be a good set on paper for escalation, like, just shoot one guy and let the crits do the job.

[shy willow]

Nego is a great set but losing that single target damage really hurts in escalation

[surreal elk]

I wish there was more diversity in builds there, i know meta always emerges but still, most of the builds are unusable

[shy willow]

Well when the ads have 8 times the effective HP and there's like 5 different mutators to deal with your options do tend to be limited

[surreal elk]

My problem is that they never change, one week there could be weakness for status effects another for headshot to make more builds viable

[shy willow]

iirc they've said they plan on rotating them seasonally

[normal shadow]

Only in the highest tier of endgame content. Otherwise there's tons of other viable builds.

[shy willow]

Yeah

[mint axle]

Next season: the more striker pieces the player has, the more the damage is reflected on the player

[shy willow]

Escalation is basically the only content that is this restrictive

[shy basalt]

it's just really poor design lol

when they added legendary, they gave the enemies new skills, better AI, etc

but escalation is just heroic with massively boosted hp

so the only thing that matters is more dps

aka strikers

[shy willow]

Id have preferred it if it was designed in such a way where the mutators were what you had to circumvent and not massively inflated hp

Cuz after tier 7 or so it just gets silly in a 4 man

[shy basalt]

I also would have preferred if there was targeted loot, and out of the X available maps maybe they'd have different modifiers or something

instead of running the same mission over and over lmao

[normal shadow]

So pretty much nothing like escalations. Alright, but we unfortunately don't have that luxury - we got escalations.

[shy willow]

I think daily TL is the best of both worlds tbh

[normal shadow]

Although legendaries also have the best builds that people run - especially solo legendary runners and speedunners.

[shy willow]

The moment they add selectable TL everybody would be on the easiest mission 24/7 and the other 4 would be irrelevant 😭

[normal shadow]

You can run other builds, but there are the best/ optimal builds.

[shy willow]

Usually yes

[shy basalt]

of course, but you and I beat legendary without the optimal builds

because we're not speedrunners/streamers

[gentle lichen]

Lowkey make a really expensive special token that allows you to alter that targeted loot
Like 100 escalation coins per pop and you don't get coins from that mission

[shy basalt]

but fwiw escalation design is pretty restrictive that even you and I need to optimize towards a certain way simply because the design was giving them more hp

[normal shadow]

It's been such a long time I first did the legendaries I can not remember the build. But honestly you can do escalations without optimal builds. It will be harder though.

[shy basalt]

I think my first clear of legendary was with a high end drone/turret hybrid build

[shy willow]

That could be another way

Making it so you can't just do it free forever

[shy basalt]

yeah I'm not the biggest fan of it personally lol

i only get 1-2 gaming sessions a week due to job + married

[subtle bluff]

There is, just not in escalation. This is what happens when you just scale this vs otherways.

[shy basalt]

i don't mind grinding stuff slowly, but it's essentially completely locked out to me bc i'm not an unemployed 20 year old lol

compared to other grinds such as watch levels or expertise or CP blueprints

[gentle lichen]

This feels targeted

[shy basalt]

which I can just grind slowly

[shy basalt]

+1. yeah this is what happens if you keep everything else the same and just scale hp lol

most other games cap how hp scales and raise the bar on difficulty in other ways

darktide reduces your ability to gate dmg, adds a bunch of modifiers, reduces your shield recovery mechanisms etc

wwz makes it so if a zombie hits you, you have to disinfect otherwise you turn as well as reducing hud elements to make information harder to access

[silent storm]

I have full proto and I am not even Exp Lv 30 and work 40-60 hours a week

[shy basalt]

good for you?

[normal shadow]

We all have priorities and responsibilities. We can't all do all the things.

[silent storm]

You are the one complaining about time restraints

[subtle bluff]

It's why enjoy teaching help people that don't have the same amount of time.

[shy basalt]

my complaints are still valid even if you don't have the same constraints lmao

I don't have the same issues with the other systems such as optimization, recalibration, expertise and watch levels

[silent storm]

Does Skill DMG affect reflector shield?

[shy basalt]

though it does seem like the dev team does do a reasonable job at trying to address the issues

it appears that when retals first dropped there were many issues as well, and they've managed to patch it up over 6-7 months

[junior lagoon]

What build?

[silent storm]

Striker

[subtle bluff]

for a small dev team that isn't from the OG and having to work on bs base coding they're not doing too bad.

[junior lagoon]

Getting striker from escalations alone possible with one variable you need chc and chd but getting augment and high numbers extremely difficult

You got proto equalizer?

[subtle bluff]

It's in the BP talent how it scales...

[silent storm]

?

What backpack talent?

[junior lagoon]

Brother i play alot really alot and still at expertise 26 and could not get a single usable proto other than gearsets and one first bloom proto i got from billion sakura chests

[subtle bluff]

Oh no you want to Shield itself.

[silent storm]

Sorry Deflector shield not Reflector

[subtle bluff]

No it doesn't

[silent storm]

So Skill DMG boosts it?

[junior lagoon]

So fully agree with your concerns

[subtle bluff]

No it doesn't.

Woke up from a nap.. English not working yet

[silent storm]

ok thanks

[silent storm]

Just dream in english, I have dreams where people are talking a different language that I know somehow and I bet if I heard it while awake I would understand it

[subtle bluff]

Reading and writing is the issues.

[silent storm]

This is one of the builds I have so far as I can't proto mine yet. Sometimes I will wear the Striker pack in higher tier

Not the best but it puts in the work

Lot's of rerolls to get the Echo augments though... Sometimes you get a piece that will just cycle through 2 augments only for like 5 rolls and those get expensive quick.

[fierce oxide]

does anyone have a good build for st. Elmos?

[junior lagoon]

I thought you were not exp 30

[silent storm]

I also feel like not every piece should have Echo. Amalgam and Trapper are nice little adds to the build.

[silent storm]

I'm not

[junior lagoon]

4 piece striker, equalizer chest, overdogs

[junior lagoon]

Can you change augment without being 30?

[silent storm]

Yes

[junior lagoon]

Lol did not know that

[silent storm]

Just can't proto your own gear

[junior lagoon]

I did not even check

[fierce oxide]

whats the equalizer chest? and overdogs?

[junior lagoon]

There is a guide pinned here. You may want to read it in this case

They are chest and glove pieces

[silent storm]

I'll tell you what though, it's maddening sometimes lol

[junior lagoon]

Well how many augments are there ? 10?

[silent storm]

I think, around there

[junior lagoon]

10 percent chance for echo , not very high. At average it should take 10 rolls to get the right one

[silent storm]

This is The Division so it can be never % chance lol

[smoky latch]

You don't wanna know how many cores I spent on my mask(s) to get Echo

[stone python]

Farmed OD today

[smoky latch]

You wanna go for Echo or Amalgam augments?

[silent storm]

Why not use the proto gun as main?

[stone python]

Proto has sadist

using tinkerer

[smoky latch]

The order of talents does not matter but the attributes do matter on your active weapon

[stone python]

really?

[silent storm]

Yeah but slot 1 is the only slot that gets both talents so why not use the higher DMG on there?

[smoky latch]

Yeah ofc

[stone python]

Not the best

[smoky latch]

Still better than a max rolled HE weapon 😄

CHC would be neat but it's OK for now

[subtle bluff]

What have I said to you over the past 3 days?

[silent storm]

Still a 15% DMG increase

[stone python]

This OD kneepads droped i was furious seeing the blue stat 🙁

[silent storm]

That's not nothing

[subtle bluff]

@stone python
Proto gear/weapons is not better than the proper/correct gear

[smoky latch]

Keep, maybe we get recalibration for Christmas 🎄

[stone python]

I wanted Proto OD

[subtle bluff]

Are you not reading what I'm typing?

Proto Gear/Weapon are not better than proper or correct stats gear/weapon

[stone python]

What's the difference here? only the augments

[smoky latch]

Does your other LMG have CHC or also DtA?

[stone python]

same attributes

[smoky latch]

Well if that's the case then keep it as main. I thought they both have DtA. I should've asked first

[silent storm]

What ExpLv are you?

[stone python]

18 still a long way to go

[silent storm]

You have Houndsman bounty?

[obtuse shoal]

in all you need around 5K hours on this game lmao.... smh

time to move it to my backlog it's fun... but dam- it's time consuming!

[silent storm]

Just doing the first group of dogs got me to ExpLv 24-25 on gear

[exotic talon]

just wait for the next proficiency xp event

[silent storm]

My big holdback is skills and exotics and crappy named that don't drop often in Houndsman

[exotic talon]

again, wait for the event then donate plastic

[stone python]

Sadly i dont have houndsman bounty

[silent storm]

Bloody Houndsman?

Krampus?

Krampus is a lot slower though

[cinder sail]

Striker gloves only can have a single attribute besides the core attribute?

[warm knot]

Yes. And the same for the other gear set pieces.

[cinder sail]

Cant even throw on a loose mod

[silent storm]

Gloves don't have mods

[cinder sail]

So only the backpack and mask can have 3 attributes?

Core, secondary and mod

[normal shadow]

Backpack, chest, mask.

[cinder sail]

Got the equalizer for the chest, was thinking of swapping current gloves for maxed coyotes mask, and equipping the striker gloves instead

That makes it all striker gear except for the chest and mask

[warm knot]

All gearset pieces (green pieces) only have 1 core and 1 secondary attribute. Brandset pieces (yellow ones) have core and 2 secondary attributes.

Chest, mask and backpack have a mod slot for both, yes.

[gusty scroll]

how much skill haste should I have for future initiative healer

[livid sorrel]

it depends on whether you want more small heals or fewer big heals

[gusty scroll]

for high esclation no one would run blue so frequent small heal should be better I guess?

[silent storm]

Repair Skills are key. Then after you max that do Skill Haste as BTSU already maxes basically your Hive

[livid sorrel]

iirc healing chems heal over time so there's a reason to have more repair skills

i'd just balance the two and adjust

[silent storm]

Skill Haste really is overrated most times

[gusty scroll]

I'm thinking about using birdie quick fix, so no BTSU

[livid sorrel]

? with btsu gloves you want to pop your hive to refresh everyone's revive so you use a second healing skill that isn't affected by btsu skill haste

[livid sorrel]

birdie's doesn't do anything when no one's down, and when everyone gets downed enough for it to matter you have bigger issues than healing

[silent storm]

If you are blowing through healing chems then your DPS are garbage

and when you pop overdrive the chems get a massive range/healing and duration boost.

Almost long enough for your Hive to fully regen

[livid sorrel]

can't rely on season modifiers forever

[silent storm]

What are you talking about that is native to overdrive

150% Radius 100% Duration and 140% heal

[livid sorrel]

you plan on using overdrive in the next season?

[silent storm]

From the BTSU? I always use it

[livid sorrel]

thought you meant the season modifier

[silent storm]

Why are they changing something?

[rich cosmos]

Need too much of it for it to matter

This really applies to a lot of stats which is sad

[gusty scroll]

ok, I'll try that first

[silent storm]

Yeah I like Skill Haste when on long CD DMG skills but for like BTSU Hive and tier 6 with BTSU chems you just destroy hive at ~5ish and pop a massive chem or 2

[rich cosmos]

I wish measured assembly gave skill haste

Like imagine a buff so it gives skill haste per person within range

That would kinda fix the issue with the first half of the talent and using restorer hive

[silent storm]

I haven't played much with Measured so IDK

I heal on Refactor or FI

[rich cosmos]

The problem with measured is that the first half of the talent just flat out doesn’t really work with hives

Because hive is so heavily tied to the charges

[silent storm]

Use Smart Cover and Chems

[elder bane]

imagine when all 4 of the team using this

[silent storm]

Reading Measured Assembly seems like you really need to play with people that are built for it. Randoms I feel would make the set too weak over Refactor or FI

[rich cosmos]

Smart cov too long of a cooldown for the talent

[smoky latch]

I made a mistake and didn't kick a random from a T10 run when I was leader. I'll only allow FI in my group from now on

[silent storm]

It is also counterintuitive to Escalation tiers 6-10

[rich cosmos]

I mean it was questionable before shit mode got added

[silent storm]

Tier 5 though it makes people god mode

[rich cosmos]

Once again, we need a season of just going through and buffing like 20 different talents on guns and gear

Doesn’t matter how much content gets added if it ends up just being striker meta all the time

[hazy steeple]

You can also use a heck of a lot more stuff in Tier 5, and don't really need "god mode".

[silent storm]

But the clear times

[hazy steeple]

If I ever want a run that I know isn't going to fail if I'm half awake, I'll go Tier 5.

[rich cosmos]

Escalations just makes me question why they didn’t just make a version of master or legendary for all missions

Legendary I get cause it has different mechanics

Idk I don’t even see the point in having tiers 1 - 3

[silent storm]

To build suspense in the climb ...

[subtle bluff]

It'd be too hard.

[rich cosmos]

Definitely builds my confidence to take a nap thats for sure

[subtle bluff]

Master/Leggo AI is much scarier.

[rich cosmos]

Even then I think the whole token system and 10 tiers is really bad

[silent storm]

And I feel they buffed legendary missions because the enemies seem a lot more aggressive now

[subtle bluff]

I don't disagree

I actually think it's been nerf some how.

[silent storm]

Well they die faster but rush more often

Dying faster might just be increased power

Though Zoo seems faster, but Tidal Basin at the end they swarm a lot more

[subtle bluff]

I keep getting noob players doing keep doing directives on there first time in leggo....

[hexed steppe]

i woulda also liked to see lego versions of all the missions over escalation

its slop

jmho

[onyx sage]

designing legendaries for other missions takes more time because you have enemies you have never put in there before. escalation is just slapping on higher scaling to heroic missions and voila

[hexed steppe]

yeah, slop

i say it with ofc.

[hazy steeple]

And now I'm picturing Lego mini-figs of all the White Tusk units.

[hexed steppe]

would be epic

[livid sorrel]

I'm willing to bet some bootleg lego company has made not-division sets

[hazy steeple]

Knex Division seems appropriate.

[soft crane]

Whuh? Rivens want Gearslop (gearscore) back in Div2?

[hexed steppe]

🤔

[hazy steeple]

I don't think jayko knows what mini-figs are.

Honestly feel bad for that childhood.

[soft crane]

Yeah I know what it is. It's the character figure for Lego.

[hexed steppe]

when i was a wee lad, we used to whittle mini-figs out of walnut

[ocean wyvern]

idk why but the idea of a hand painted white tusk a la Warhammer is rather charming

[lost wren]

tipping scales doesn't beat out striker in terms of dps right?
so what benefits does it have over striker for people to be using it

[open saddle]

Anybody got the expertise sheet

[lone wadi]

its pinned in #ask-td2-community

[solar sable]

it competes; the benefit of TS is that the DMG ramp up is much faster than with Striker’s but the stack decay makes it unreliable

[lost wren]

right

[solar sable]

AFAIK that's the main reason plus TS non-crit shots are devastating

as Dien said, people see big number and think it's strong until you make them see the non-crits

[lost wren]

ayup

tipping scales at least looks a bit fun, still funky to use

[open saddle]

Thanks

[lapis hare]

For running a striker build with memento do I go for a striker chest piece or just keep my Ceska Obliterate (swap coyote mask for striker). If I do go for the striker chest what should I change?

[hexed steppe]

oblit with memento

striker chest is only for really tanky stuff since its hard to maintain full stacks otherwise

[solar sable]

always keep in mind that Striker’s Chest is not used outside of Incursion and T5+ Escalations

[lapis hare]

Alrighty. So striker mask it is. Will leave everything else how it is. But swap striker pack for my memento! Thank you!

Also curious, is there a specific exotic SMG that is good with striker? I ask because I just got Lady Death. Not sure if it’s any good.

[open saddle]

What's the best lmg in the game right now

[open saddle]

I don't even use strikers chest unless is boss fights or higher levels in escalations

[solar sable]

It isn't really, I recommend Backfire but Chatterbox is also an option

[lapis hare]

Backfire is the one that damages you right? Probably need to tweak the setup a bit to deal with that.

[solar sable]

It applies bleed to yourself yes, but you don't really need to work around that because you can:

1. Reload three times and become immune for a brief period of time
2. Reach max Backfire stacks so the bleed disappears

Plus, picking up Memento's trophies will grant bonus armor and therefore the bleed looks insignificant

[lapis hare]

Oh very nice!

[solar sable]

A lot of people say that Hazpro (Hazard Protection) is a must for Backfire and that is a lie. You're sacrificing Crits for a niche stat like Hazpro which will hurt you more than the bleed itself

[lapis hare]

Good to know! Thank you!!

[ripe crypt]

Hey guys, just getting back into the game, have an old load out saved using 4 piece hunter 2 piece high end gear with Intimidate and Adrenaline rush. Want to focus more on shotguns and run a Cuelebre but was wondering if there was a better option and if I need to change anything in my build.

[smoky latch]

Well which brand pieces do you run?

You best post a screenshot of your build here

If you wanna focus on HF and shotgun I'd recommend HHF - Headhunter's Fury

[ripe crypt]

This is a 4 year old build, just downloaded the game again yesterday

[smoky latch]

Not much changed in that regard

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1LWNSc5_z4qotUTAewQ_ROT8BtoY6Pe28wPfpsKcdpFQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

Crit build suggestion

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1uy8eLQaZnK51PK9kmIKxl0sgJo7w98li6H_M3C2iJI0/edit?usp=drivesdk

Headhunter's Fury

Different suggestion and guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWk2Jgg8uJX3hkturWAET95gizwVHReoOOayO-ixe6U/edit?usp=drivesdk

[ripe crypt]

Is the sheriff shotgun a good choice for weapon or would be cuelebre with Jazz hands still be good?

[smoky latch]

Sheriff is more of a good secondary. Doesn't really fit to HF and is better with Striker's

[ripe crypt]

Oh I see perfect pummel talent is better then jazz hands as long as you land your shots and get kills in 1-2 shots.

[frosty oasis]

Backfire for T10. 1.77M Body & 2M Head. Doing 5B+ DMG runs!
SMG lovers, def give it a try! Dmg peak is almost instant

[ripe crypt]

Probably awhile off getting the kinda of gear to test it out. I just got back I didn't even know purple gear was best thing now

[frosty oasis]

@ripe crypt its proto but T10 isnt end all be all. Backfire & MANY other builds are stronger now with Prototype. Depends on what you're after. 🤘

[hazy steeple]

This season as well, you can do some nutty stuff.

[livid sorrel]

hazpro backfire...

[hazy steeple]

137% free HSD on any build.

[solar sable]

not you again...

[uneven pond]

This Lengmo Pestilence build with Turmoil and Ambush event is crazy

[solar sable]

turmoil doesnt split or improve pesti ticks fyi

[hazy steeple]

In fairness, they didn't say "crazy good".

[uneven pond]

I know it doesn't

[hazy steeple]

e.g. "this Striker nemesis build is crazy".

[solar sable]

alr alr

[livid sorrel]

i mean, if you're crazy enough it could do big numbers, the 90% amp from striker is big

[subtle bluff]

is there a global GE on?

[vernal wing]

I don’t get the Nemesis hype, I much prefer shroud

[livid sorrel]

ambush

[livid sorrel]

it's a railgun in a relatively grounded shooter

[subtle bluff]

I see. It's not Global one

[vague oak]

can someone pls help me get the over dogs 🐶

[last schooner]

is CHC still the best 3rd attribute for proto LMG? or is it DTH?

[buoyant perch]

The in game name is global event

[solar sable]

CHC

[subtle bluff]

Idk how to say the one that's always on

[livid sorrel]

overdrives

[subtle bluff]

Ahhhh derp. TY

[livid sorrel]

Rav gaming lmfao

took me 3 tries just to do heroic potomac and ambush was carrying me lmao

[open saddle]

Still Elmo's or Lexington which is better?

[solar sable]

lexi

[subtle bluff]

One is better Burst the other is better sustain.

[open saddle]

So should I expertise both? And which one is better for strikers

[smoky latch]

Lexi - burst damage
Elmo - sustained damage and occasional CC

Personally I'd go for Lex first

[vivid jolt]

im gang lex personally, lets you run scorpio or another utility exo or big alejandro/bluescreen for sub damage in longer encounters when ammo can be an issue.

[jaunty surge]

With a full prototype refactor set, you can now hit skill tier 6. Has anybody figured out what the most efficient last two gear pieces are for max skill damage?

[smoky latch]

Still Impetus and Force Multiplier as they make most sense for Skill Damage

[jaunty surge]

Ah. So no fancy two red core hybrid or something like that. Shame.

[smoky latch]

I just realized

I guess you didn't prototype the pieces yourself? Then two red cores on the HE items, why not

[vernal dagger]

Should Lexington be prototyped with killer or measured cause I’m killer isn’t as good in hard content or high tier escal?

[solar sable]

measured tbh

[sacred arrow]

i've got streamline on mine

[vernal dagger]

Or would optimist be better than measured?

[solar sable]

that's useless

[vernal dagger]

I use decoy too much for that to be useful

[sacred arrow]

lol how?

[vernal dagger]

Might as well just play with no gadgets at that point

[solar sable]

Streamline isnt that great, it's trash

[solar sable]

trust and use Measured

[sacred arrow]

I don't use skills so it works great for me

[vernal dagger]

Yea that’s what I have on it rn just wasn’t sure if optimist is comparable

[solar sable]

any other talent will do better than Streamline, it isnt just about "it works for me"

[sacred arrow]

How is 42% amplified damage useless?

[livid sorrel]

it's weapon damage not an amp

[solar sable]

it's not amp...

[sacred arrow]

Ok, my bad.. my question still stands

[solar sable]

because other dmg buckets are better like TWD and AMP

[livid sorrel]

skills are far too useful to trade for weapon damage

[smoky latch]

Read this

[sacred arrow]

Thank you for this. far better that "It's trash"

[solar sable]

bc it is lol

[smoky latch]

It kinda is, especially in high difficulty content

[livid sorrel]

It's a bigger damage buff on builds with less reds, but blue builds arent exactly doing damage, and it just straight up conflicts with yellow builds

[smoky latch]

If you don't like Determined in a one-shot build for instance it's fine.

[sacred arrow]

That might be true but I'm almost always #1 in damage at the end

[solar sable]

that's mostly coming from the build, not the weapon talent

[sacred arrow]

To be fair, Measured is my favorite talent, I just thought streamline was stronger. I will be switching after reading what you shared

[toxic knoll]

It's a flat weapon damage boost, not an amp. 40% of a number, added, is less than +100% of the same number. As an example.

[livid sorrel]

assuming pure numbers on a striker build with a lexington, streamline does beat measured, but in practice the rof buff helps get your stacks up faster and you get to use skills

[toxic knoll]

People see the percentage (for streamline) and, naturally, think it's strong. So you're not the first to be caught out.

[sacred arrow]

Yes the rof of measured helps a lot with stacks. I’ve been running the Gear Shift lately and love it lol

[coarse stone]

How to get the overdogs gloves other than countdown?

[patent fossil]

Target gloves, farm random exotics (eg through priority objectives) or get the crafting blueprint through retaliations

[strong cave]

Technically Streamlined is stronger because you're not having your RPM change like with Measured. But, the last half of the mag on Measured I'm pretty sure is stronger than Streamlined. With that being said, it locks you out of skills entirely. Can you play without them? Sure. But you're only making your life more difficult in the long run. Which, with how build advice channel usually is, only the most efficient setups are recommended because plenty of new players come here reading not knowing what to pay attention to or not

Also, since when did people start thinking Stream is an amp?

I like streamlined but I personally dont use it in PvE. I run it in pvp for the most up front damage. When I need to fall back I'll drop my decoy and hike a seeker to keep enemies away

I lose my damage but meh it'll come back when I bust my skills and they refresh in 23s

[sacred arrow]

I couldn’t remember what the talent said exactly so I misspoke

[strong cave]

No worries. Happens. Even I do it lol

[sacred arrow]

I forget to use my skills and with the modifiers this season I can reset my reviver in 15 secs so my streamline doesn’t have much down time

And I do run either a decoy or banshee pulse for emergencies but with the overcharge modifier I can reset quickly

[shy willow]

Ehh it's just not worth it at all imo

Even assuming you do have the buff up the damage is still just about comparable with measured

[sacred arrow]

Also my Lexington with streamlined rolled with max WD and max DTOC. My Lex with measured only has max WD

[strong cave]

I'm going to assume this is a Proto lex

[livid sorrel]

doesnt lex always drop with max stats

[sacred arrow]

Yes, proto

[livid sorrel]

right that makes sense

[strong cave]

Soon as they mentioned that I knew it was proto 😂

[sacred arrow]

Sorry should have mentioned that lol

[strong cave]

Lex drops max stats* (edit) so if you hear it doesn't, it's probably proto

[livid sorrel]

thought it was like turmoil that occasionally drops with 14%

[strong cave]

I doubt they would be too broke to optimize the 1%

Considering it's now proto

[solar sable]

I was surprised when I found out that Turmoil could be Prototyped

[eager mortar]

Another day another delta 3

[strong cave]

Another day, another "not playing division 2" because of Delta errors, bugs, and no incentive to grind for anything

I am curious what the Brooklyn event will hold for us

[dawn perch]

hello all, i looking for a way to recover for my interim build. at the moment i just not able to avoid damage due to [insert skill issue] and I am looking for a way to have some recovery.

[jaunty surge]

Preservation talent plus the gunner armor restoration path?

[dawn perch]

is that backpack talent? gear is fairly tight

[patent fossil]

Weapon talent

[restive vortex]

Is my current augment setup good enough or do I need to stack echo more?

[patent fossil]

Good enough for what, specifically?Echo is only 3% max per piece you'll get a bigger bonus from a good frenzy lmg, I think striker chest is recommended in the top tiers too, which would let you run overdogs or a ceska piece maybe

[restive vortex]

I’m just debating wherever or not it’s worth having 50 50 split between echo and paradox or if I should just focus on one augment instead

[patent fossil]

Frenzy is currently the top dps option by some margin, and unfortunately paradox messes up the timing.
1 or 2 pieces of Amalgam aren't bad to have

[dawn perch]

whelp... perservation was not enough

i guess i would just have stay on skill builds from now on or something

[heady terrace]

Me being the medic for the gang (mandatory)

[livid sorrel]

i'd suggest you practice with a techtank

[dawn perch]

problem: i am the medic but my peps are away at the moment

[dawn perch]

umm what is that

[heady terrace]

I wanna try a cluster seeker build, would be funny

[livid sorrel]

dps build with technician spec, shield, and artificer hive

keep the shield out and try to maneuver yourself behind cover without actually taking cover

[dawn perch]

so only ARs....

or

i run in with tempest pistol

[livid sorrel]

if youre just practicing you could probably use exodus gloves with lmg

[weak pike]

I did one with hardwired and scanner it was funny to be able to just scan and throw every 10 seconds

[dawn perch]

funny enough i take so much damage it exceed the capacity of exodus i think

[livid sorrel]

try it in low tier escal or heroic

[dawn perch]

it mostly for solo farming escalation mostly. the version i took was screwy with pistol version.. and so the other version with ars. too many explosive and too much damage dealt. (using legendary as a benchmark as I do not want spend token to try)

[livid sorrel]

legendary isn't really comparable to escal

But i'm only recommending a techtank to practice not getting hit. The shield is basically a warning system for when you're getting shot at. In escal you'd be running full DPS

[dawn perch]

well, its going off all the time.

[shy willow]

Honestly just throw on a high end glass cannon build and throw yourself at heroic missions

[dawn perch]

i can basically clear ever heroic mission with some damage but mostly just easily cleared by any of my builds

[shy willow]

What's the struggle with escalation specifically

[livid sorrel]

Most builds these days are good enough to absolutely shreds heroic solo

[dawn perch]

the use of tall cover to mitigate damage has been rather unsuccessful. the reason why i cannot build up a lot of striker stacks is i just take too much damage and get suppressed. in heroic the damage is not extreme enough that requires to you back up so hard compare with escalation and legendary with legendary being my benchmark

[shy willow]

I have a clip somewhere

[shy willow]

You wanna position yourself like this

[dawn perch]

okay. so there is a little bit more to this =_=. also you said poison yourself lmao

[shy willow]

Oops

[dawn perch]

kek

[shy willow]

Essentially angle yourself in such a way that you can shoot at them but they can't shoot at you

[dawn perch]

that is kind of art

[shy willow]

CQB explains it better than me

Avoid the fatal funnel

[dawn perch]

you know they do not tell you this in the tutorial lmao. Yet you need this

[shy willow]

It becomes very relevant in high tier content

[dawn perch]

from game design standpoint. It is not good. As the normal person would literally have no idea about this and possibly would never com across this info. kind of wish escalation would be like actual optional mode like level cap in warframe.

[shy willow]

I mean, strictly speaking it is entirely optional

Prototypes are normalised in PvP, raids and incursions so realistically all they do is trivialise already trivial content, and make you more competitive in escalation

[livid sorrel]

i mean it's actual irl combat techniques, it's not usually something a game teaches you

[dawn perch]

i do think in practice lot of people are getting funnel into this extreme mode. Also, that diagram works pretty well. I reduce my damage taken signficantly.

btw, what is good AR for longer ranges and accuracy

[normal shadow]

Police M4 with Ranger?

[smoky latch]

Archivist too in this regard

[dawn perch]

erm, i do not think have one on me. Although i do have stelmos and strega

[normal shadow]

I'd personally definitely get one. It's not exotic but a high-end assault rifle.

[vernal wing]

But its damage profile seems pretty bad (except for the fully charged shot), and the charge time is horrible.

You can’t precharge while unscoped.

[dusk edge]

thoughts on First Bloom?

[livid sorrel]

it suffers from being a pdr

[dusk edge]

a wha?

[vernal wing]

A bad archetype with less mods

[dusk edge]

ah

[smoky latch]

Talent overrated

[lost wren]

the talent at least seems good, at least for pvp
still a bit of a crappy base gun

[livid sorrel]

can't even wrap my head around how to calculate it

[dusk edge]

nothing will ever beat the Lexington eh?

[smoky latch]

Sure you have options

[lost wren]

for sustain elmo's is better, at least for ars

[dusk edge]

oh no dw i'm still sticking with Lex

the gun legit melt through anything. pair it with overdogs and one sneeze and the entire squad's fone

[lost wren]

but yeah in terms of burst can't really compete with lex

[dusk edge]

very efficient with ammo too i noticed

esp with landing headshots

[livid sorrel]

i like the huntsman myself

[dusk edge]

i've somehow managed to get this muscle memory of how long to pull the trigger until death

[vernal wing]

I think that thing sucks

[dusk edge]

i use SR-1

[livid sorrel]

this is hilarious coming from a guy named john lexington

[dusk edge]

before i switched to Striker my main was SR-1/Handbasket and M1A

[vernal wing]

Much prefer the Lexington:
10/10
5* reviews
#1 most recommended weapon

[dusk edge]

and then not long ago i got a godrolled White Death. i've never been tempted to return to my Hotshot build again

[dusk edge]

0 fails
0 missed
7 hunters killed

[vernal wing]

If you wanted to run a Chainkiller MMR build, what’s the best damage talent on the MMR? Ranger for high end and Shroud if you follow the hierarchy?

[dusk edge]

headshot

esp with determined. just hard to proc with thick shields tho

but once you got it up and running everyone drops

[livid sorrel]

Besides Determined? Streamline

[vernal wing]

That’s crazy

[dusk edge]

sounds great on paper if you just don't use skills period

[livid sorrel]

Unironically. Not much choices out there

[dusk edge]

but all that goes to null once you get revived by the hive

MMRs with determined or bust

[strong cave]

streamlined is best all around but if youre playing distance only, Ranger

[dusk edge]

that too

[livid sorrel]

im bad at sniping so i use determined

[vernal wing]

I just wish I knew how far 20m actually was in game

[strong cave]

technically this shouldnt be the case with a 1 shot build as cheesy as determined + HH

[dusk edge]

touché

i just can't see myself using an MMR without Determined

[livid sorrel]

isnt there a scope that shows how far a target is

[vernal wing]

Darci 🤐

[strong cave]

go to range, go to DPS target, select 15m. back up to halfway towards the exotic wall. thats 20m

the way distance is calculated in this game is weird. but its a video game so logic will never apply

[dusk edge]

just shoot far away enemies = profit

[vernal wing]

I was using harvest on Ranger but wondering if Streamline would actually be more damage since it has damage falloff at 16 meters

[strong cave]

i never have that issue and im hitting at sniper distances. plus im using the sight that tanks your optimal range. whats your pistol setup?

[ocean wyvern]

Why not just use the 20m option?

[vernal wing]

I don’t have pistol mods, but the weapon says its optimal range is 16m.

Punch drunk
Contractor
Gift
Chainkiller
Fox’s Prayer
Dodge City

All headshot/WH

[strong cave]

probably the least optimal way to run that specific build

[vernal wing]

I don’t think there is a more optimal way except maybe Habsburg unicorn

[livid sorrel]

i thought that was the pistol HH setup

[vernal wing]

It is. This guy just likes to critique me which is why he has me blocked

[ocean wyvern]

That's like the pistol HH setup

unless 3pc IA picks up an insane amount of slack we don't know about, I doubt there's a lot much you could change to it tbh

[strong cave]

talking pistol alone, Dodge City is a wasted exotic slot. why? if the focus is to only use the pistol, thats basically a 1 time use exotic. sure, it ensures up front damage immediately, but for one time use? massive waste. you could instead do:

3 IA
Chainkiller
Overdogs
Punch Drunk

OR

3 IA
Chainkiller
Claw's Out
Punch Drunk

Both setups are 100% optimal, Overdogs giving you the best top end damage. Claw's Out gives the most up front damage.

You took fox's prayer kneepads, that DOES NOT APPLY to headhunter. Contractor's is good but not every enemy has armor. Providence is fine but you wouldve been better off going for more pistol damage.

at expertise 30 harvest, i am hitting for nearly 25m. That's Hotshot numbers.

[strong cave]

you post pretty unoptimal setups tbf

[vernal wing]

I don’t post setups

[livid sorrel]

huh, does dch not basically max out your HH stacks with pistol

[strong cave]

still talk about them

[vernal wing]

It does

He doesn’t realize I’m one shotting bosses

[strong cave]

it does. but still. 1 time use. especially if youre using only a pistol. its a waste. ODogs would have way more uptime than contractors and dodge city alone

[vernal wing]

And then you can carry the buffs over

[ocean wyvern]

The problem here is that the loss of the HSD buffing + other named multiplicative bonuses makes the 60% pistol damage lose a lot of efficacy

[vernal wing]

HH 🤦🏻‍♀️

[strong cave]

still get more damage ditching dodge city and using overdogs. youll thank me when you stop arguing and actually try it

[ocean wyvern]

The thing is DCGH isn't one use, you don't have to only use it when it's maxed

[strong cave]

not entirely true. all the pieces he mentioned have niche stats that have little uptime or dont effect headhunter at all. in this case, fox's prayer kneepads

[vernal wing]

I won’t be thanking you for more bad builds. Go back to pestilence high end.

[strong cave]

youre missing the point homie. a PISTOL headhunter build. using ONLY the pistol

[strong cave]

stay triggered 😂 give me another emoji reaction when i leave

again, dont come to build advice expecting not to be corrected when wrong 🤷

[vernal wing]

The only person triggered is you with your Overdogs pistol build 😂

[ocean wyvern]

tbh, these recommendations aren't given because "ooh shiny named", they're given because the community has tested them more thoroughly than most of us could imagine

[lost wren]

just use hhf regulus

[strong cave]

yes, and ive thoroughly tested Harvest HH builds. what I posted is THE MOST optimal setup. its proven by others in the community here

ask any of the usual nerds here. theyll say the same shit

[ocean wyvern]

One of the other problems with IA is that it basically turns you into a giant matador in an arena of bulls

[strong cave]

now again, what I meant by DCH is "1 time use"-

youre using mainly the pistol. that means, you have 1 shot out of your pistol with DCH that will have the boosted damage. every shot after that wont have that damage. does it HELP up front damage? yes. but headhunter is about TOP END damage. you want the most you can get to ensure anything is killed with 1 shot

[strong cave]

thats not true either. just because you wear IA doesnt mean youre now 50% more intimidating. its whoever is doing damage, up close, who is the most threat, etc. we still dont 100% know how each threat is generated. we only have the few we know of

[rich cosmos]

Wait, they just didn’t announce that this was coming back??

So is this not part of the event then

[strong cave]

ive had PLENTY of cases wearing my IA build and did not get targeted once in a group despite doing all the damage. why? they were closer to the enemies than I was. more threatening

unsure, it could be. i myself am looking forward to getting my hands on it

[ocean wyvern]

We don't know that, they likely just didn't say anything to give at least a chance of a surprise

[lament helm]

can i get pros and cons about the cherished chest piece and what build can i make with it

[livid sorrel]

the talent isnt really that useful

[ashen maple]

anyone can give me a good refactor build?

[strong cave]

PvE wise? im not going to hold punches... its shit.

PVP it does have a use tho. to be annoying

[normal shadow]

Why would anyone even run a headhunter build with a team. Even more a headhunter build which isn't a Regulus build.

[lament reef]

refactor is fine in pve as far as skill builds go, use drone and turret

[strong cave]

why? to ensure theyre getting kills or things are surely dead. i find it toxic to use in groups if youre being kill hungry

in retaliation i welcome HH users 🙏

[normal shadow]

Well, to each their own.

[lament reef]

see pins

[vernal wing]

Because I need 6 enemies to die in a short window and then one shot a boss.

[normal shadow]

Are you referring to multiplayer or the non-Regulus part?

[vernal wing]

Both

[ocean wyvern]

Kinda depends on context, but I've had some luck doing support sniping in legendaries and master missions

[normal shadow]

If you're playing in a team you're better off running Striker than HH.

[normal shadow]

Sure, that works sometimes. Depending on the map.

[stone python]

What is this TS build? Saw on the interwebs.

[ocean wyvern]

Salvo on TS seems backwards, blacklisters I can kinda see as being a less picky overdogs

[strong cave]

looks like escalation build if it was recommended and sold by Temu

[livid sorrel]

blacklisters is 20% amp so if you dont mind being one shot by one guy it could work

else there was a bug where blacklisters had overdogs talent so you could use it with contractors

[flint arch]

the mark could expire and refresh on the wrong enemy which can be an issue

also the TS chest is chopped. for all that extra effort you need to put in your damage increase is not that much

[strong cave]

might just start running blacklisters just for S&Gs

[ocean wyvern]

I could see this build working if you swap the chest for an equalizer like the second variant

[ashen maple]

thank you

[fierce ether]

guys what is the best stat for hollow man mask as third stat, chc or chd

[ocean wyvern]

If you're at 60% without the CHC on Hollow Man, CHD, otherwise go CHC

[bleak flume]

What are those knee pads

[ocean wyvern]

Blacklisters

[bleak flume]

Never seen that one what's it used and like

[hazy steeple]

Blacklisters Talent:
Shooting an enemy applies a mark. Only one mark can be active at a time. The mark disappears after 15s, or when the marked enemy dies. Recieve 600% Amplified Damage from the marked enemy. Deal 20% Amplified Damage to unmarked enemies. If only one enemy remains in combat, the mark disappears and cannot be reapplied.

[ocean wyvern]

Admittedly, I haven't gotten a pair of blacklisters because I haven't done the master mission for it yet

It seems like you mark an enemy, marked enemy deals a lot more damage to you but unmarked enemies are debuffed

[hazy steeple]

Retal also allows you to get the Crafting Blueprint for those Master-locked exotics, just an FYI.

[junior lagoon]

Bluescreen works with the new brooklyn celebration event?

[ocean wyvern]

if it's not cleaners or rikers, then I have it, I'll have to give that a look

[stone python]

This is the best build for Retaliation. Literally deletes mobs and you buff your team mates with hollow point bullets.

[hazy steeple]

IIRC most of the crazy rare ones are likely Team 9.

Which thankfully, can spawn with any faction.

[ocean wyvern]

I've thankfully gotten all the BTSU BPs

[ocean wyvern]

I would imagine so

[hazy steeple]

I'd recommend still going ahead with running Retal's every now and then, the Reconstructed Caches you can get via crafting the mats are invaluable long-term.

The more you craft, the less you rely on Named Item Caches for DZ stuff.

[ocean wyvern]

oh I run retals all the time for TL and I've gotten most of the stuff I need from DZ exclusives, I'm just slow rolling through getting the rest of the NY-faction BPs

[strong cave]

seeing this hurts

expertise 30 ninjabike.

[vernal wing]

🫠

[fierce obsidian]

What is the best skill build

[vernal wing]

For generic content use? Probably refactor

[fierce obsidian]

Damn also, the seeker mine built and I find it amazing

[strong cave]

best is a long shot. but works fine in groups or solo if youre into this sorta thing. change the chest talent to something else

[ocean wyvern]

Good thing it ain't mine haha

[strong cave]

sad part is I recognized the name of the agent. i of course had to hide the name for "witch-hunting rules" reasons

[vernal wing]

If you’re just having fun, the hard wired Seeker mine spam is neat tech

[ocean wyvern]

I just don't get what people see in NBB besides "wildcard" when wildcarding in this game is never as strong

[strong cave]

this is another fun skill build I personally love running in groups:

[fierce obsidian]

What does this one do

[ocean wyvern]

It's a status effect build meant to be support focused, it spreads status effects as well as giving some debuffs for team damage

[strong cave]

foam anything that walks, heavily support focused

[sudden cloak]

What a day to have eyes

[strong cave]

it also comes with Overcharge for the entire group due to using Stinger hive. which also applies a status, as shit as bleed is as a status. its moreso for the damage

its also a great tool to set and forget at a spawn door for ads to run into

in times where there's EMP hazards, i run this:

[ocean wyvern]

What do you mean by it's for the damage?

[fierce obsidian]

Is there a skill build for solo legendary

[ocean wyvern]

Like for the damage on the stinger hive?

[sudden cloak]

Mortar does good

[vernal wing]

Mortar 🤝

[strong cave]

stinger hive by default already does a wicked amount of damage. even with 0 skill damage rolls. it packs like 30 million damage all in one. plus, stinger hive will bypass warhound armor

[fierce obsidian]

The divsiion has a mortar skill which one i didnt know

[strong cave]

its also just there for spawn camping doors and proccing overcharge. ahem @hazy steeple ☝️

game changer just had a game change and had his account hacked by the looks of it

@pearl atlas i saw you active earlier too, trying to get a mod attention 🙏

thankies 🙏

[vernal wing]

Mortar turret - demo specialization only

[ocean wyvern]

Modmail is usually the simplest way in my experience

[sudden cloak]

I just stick to my dps/tank dps builds for legendary, depends on the group

[strong cave]

true but you think theyll answer a ticket in a timely manner over a cryp post? lol

if anything the mods WANT you to ping them for necessary stuff like that

[strong cave]

in some cases Measured Assembly is perfect for legendary. its a direct drone op counter

[ocean wyvern]

If you post a message link and just mention it's a spam bot, it gets handled pretty quick

[strong cave]

ah i typically never go that route. i usually just give em a ping. especially important stuff like that. its just quicker for them usually

[sudden cloak]

In groups that struggle with them I'll throw that on

[strong cave]

now like if it needs to be a completely private mod discussion, ill 100% use modmail

[fierce obsidian]

Can we talk about builds here bruh

[strong cave]

absolutely. channel gets discombobulated at times

[sudden cloak]

Sure

Mods are pfe btw

[fierce obsidian]

What does this one do damage survivability?

[sudden cloak]

Yup

[strong cave]

yeah the hazpro backfire meta slowly sorta creeped back. it works but its kinda cheesy and depends on the group

all red obviously will clear quicker but genuinely it is a good solo build

[fierce obsidian]

Someone prototyped it he was like godmode ?

[sudden cloak]

I don't like haz pro with backfire, but that build was made specifically for boss room on tidal basin

[junior lagoon]

i would not call that a room

[teal ibex]

refractor any good for tech build?

[sudden cloak]

True, not really a room, boss area i guess is more accurate

[smoky latch]

Wdym by tech build?

[strong cave]

i think they mean skill build

[smoky latch]

Possibly but necessary to clarify 😅

Too many ppl use false terms and cause confusion in general

[teal ibex]

idk A tech build XD

[smoky latch]

Alright so we call it skill build, specifically turret/drone ;p

Yes it's a solid build for anything but mid to high tier Escalations

[subtle bluff]

What is the word tech being used here?

[smoky latch]

Well also not raids and incursion

[subtle bluff]

As in spec?

[smoky latch]

I think so after they tried to clarify what they mean lol

[vernal wing]

He wants to play as mage/technomancer

[mint axle]

Nah, he wants a net runner build

[onyx sage]

i want a stealth build

but my teammates hate me cuz they can't see through the smoke

[vernal wing]

He wants to be his team’s ISAC. Who I just realized is Ubisoft’s Cortana.

[junior lagoon]

Exodus gloves ftw

[strong cave]

decoy aegis solves that

[onyx sage]

then i get kicked

[strong cave]

no, i will. im running it 😂

[onyx sage]

xD

[strong cave]

just need to sneak in with striker first

[smoky latch]

Fkn griefer item lmao

[strong cave]

😈

[onyx sage]

me when i make a full 21% echo striker build just to join a lobby then swap to mortar build right after

[upper yew]

I have finally grinded technician and unlocked it, you guys have any build ideas for it ?

[strong cave]

nothing more sad than carrying an entire team on tier 5 roosevelt and watching them blow themselves up because they decided to rush spawns after they blew the gate up

i even hot swapped to birdies just for this reason at that part and we STILL almost wiped

[smoky latch]

Habits are hard to control 😂

[strong cave]

more like these were people who were only using proto bc its proto

they didnt even have a tech healer to counter the EMP.

and this is what tier 5 matchmaking is like? 💀

i cant even mathmake for anything else. nobody else is playing anything else 😂

[smoky latch]

Yeah it takes forever to find lobbies indeed

[woeful vector]

Love this “gear shift” lmg.

Any builds it goes well with?

[smoky latch]

TS, Striker's are common

[strong cave]

striker or lengmo honestly. shoots too quickly for tipping and mag size is a bit low for me

[haughty harness]

Is tipping scales with AR a new meta?

[strong cave]

hell no

it can work with it but you need to build stacks by shooting

[haughty harness]

Why are my team members using full proto tipping scales and UA plus Lexington wtf

[strong cave]

because they think proto = good no matter the setup

[smoky latch]

Since that LMG has 5% less WD than regular Measured for the first half of the magazine you need to make sure to squeeze every bullet out of the mag while hitting NPCs

[haughty harness]

It's the new meta

[strong cave]

OMG, he means LMG. dudes on mobile

[smoky latch]

Yes lol

[upper yew]

I read it as oh my god

[strong cave]

thats what every div slop youtuber wants you to believe so you click their video and watch it and make them money

[smoky latch]

No the autocorrect failed me again

[upper yew]

anyways can someone give me a technician build, I think I will be going with full skill tier

[strong cave]

if it was the new meta everyone and their mom would be running it just like this new proto build wave thats coming into open world pve

[smoky latch]

I'd rather use a standard MK46;with regular Measured

[upper yew]

thanks

[strong cave]

youve got options. all sorts work with tech

[haughty harness]

Is this you?

[upper yew]

me like options

[smoky latch]

Why blue cores and Technician for healer

[strong cave]

i run tech on purpose for my setups. EMP immunity. yes i can easily swap over to survivalist i have the pieces. i dont for that reason

[vernal wing]

That’s kinda standard

[haughty harness]

I saw a guy with this build, wearing the white snowy Krampus outfit and glowing mask

[smoky latch]

Ok just asking

[smoky latch]

In which dimension?

[strong cave]

no worries. for me i just dont like running survivalist unless im running it specifically in raids

[vernal wing]

The blue core on Setup FI Technician?

[strong cave]

its only standard if you CANT find the unicorn bag

i clearly have it. 2 of them actually. i still prefer tech 😂

[vernal wing]

Actually same, I have 2 of the unicorns but still run blue core. I like the EMP grenade too.

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1I9gpi7gA4C9xCfFWLmY5hwaw8qpmPzG4kmI9nDjmKbo/edit?usp=drivesdk

This is standard

[strong cave]

yeah reason why its standard is this tidbit on survivalist alone:

since youll be doing that with scorpio and opp, youre just giving free damage to the team. then again, the healer specifically doesnt have to run survivalist either. any DPS player could in theory if everyone is all in the same group

this was my raid days tho. in most situations its better for the healer to run surviv

[vernal wing]

Yeah agreed

[upper yew]

does artificer hive buff all skills or just deployed ones like drones and shields

[vernal wing]

Usually in the raids healer is on Tech for Emp sledge which doesn’t steel Achilles Pulse

[smoky latch]

On your back just your skills, if deployed others' skills too

[upper yew]

sao you dont even need to deploy it for solo

[strong cave]

for me ive had it used with survivalist. the achilles pulse loss stems from using normal Pulse

[hybrid pelican]

Pulse just hides the marks doesnt steal them

[strong cave]

but technically its still there. you just cant see the zones when that happens

[vernal wing]

Flame grenade steels the Achilles weak points right?

[strong cave]

pretty sure youre supposed to scanner pulse first THEN achilles

depends on the target I think. the dogs in DH (Buddy/Lucy) didnt matter for me when i ran it

[upper yew]

you guys are talking too endgame for my casual ass to understand

[dense roost]

How's Memento on a Heartbreaker build as opposed to just running the HB backpack

[dense roost]

^

[strong cave]

preferred. it allows you to keep bonus armor up

[strong cave]

wait until you see how damage is actually calculated

[dense roost]

WE yes you AND me all run blue cores on our red builds

on ALL my dead homies we do this

[upper yew]

I have finished nyc dlc yesterday bro who the hell is achiless

[strong cave]

Achilles pulse is a skill

its available in one of the manhunt legacy missions

[vernal wing]

Fey Lau man hunt you can get the Achilles pulse skill in like 60 seconds

[strong cave]

☝️

[inner vapor]

I can't seem te get to 100 crit damage and 50% crit chance, I screwed up my build somehow?

[dense roost]

What SHD level are you? A lot of those stats will fill out over time esp as you optimize gear and get better mods

[inner vapor]

330

[strong cave]

sounds to me like they rolled CHC on all their pieces instead of CHD

[dense roost]

My level/gear isn't fully maxed and these are my stats on my daily driver build

[strong cave]

yup they rolled CHC instead of CHD like I said

[inner vapor]

I think I used to have the stats I mentioned but now I dont

[dense roost]

Mods on your weapons also impact it if you've changed them recently

[vernal wing]

The recent event gave you bonus crit

[solar sable]

why 2pc W&H?

[dense roost]

Just an all around brand set, this is my build for just running around and doing heroic exploration/retals

Was probably gonna throw on equalizer and liquid engineer once I get the latter

This isn't for super hard stuff

[inner vapor]

or should I go for striker instead of tipping scales?

[dense roost]

I promise I know how to do damage in this game lmaooo

[dense roost]

Also not weapon or build specific stats on it so I can try out new weapons and such to see if I like them before commiting resources and a full build

[solar sable]

oh yeah I was just curious bc I thought I saw UA but that quick glance was not accurate

[dense roost]

makes ense lol

[strong cave]

no it didnt

[hazy geode]

It’s annoying

[strong cave]

if you mean a massive damage boost, THIS was the source:

[solar sable]

I hate these so mf much

[junior lagoon]

try ND

[hazy geode]

Bc I wanna make a medic build for escalations but now I have to do retaliations again

It’s so freaking annoying

[strong cave]

reading is hard doomz. you just had a moment yourself

[solar sable]

sir!

[hazy geode]

I need the BTsu data gloves now and that means I HAVE TO DO ANOTHER RETALIATION TYPE

[strong cave]

meow

[hazy geode]

YIPPEEEE

[strong cave]

i can take you thru retal

[hazy geode]

I need true sons

[strong cave]

rip. all i have are outcasts. and nobody is random MM'ing

[hazy geode]

Gg

[strong cave]

i really only need palisades drops so i can try to craft double crit oblit chest to roll for all red

[hazy geode]

I already just finished farming outcasts for the memento bp

[strong cave]

ive got a new build in the works 🤫

[junior lagoon]

rushers too good and scary. no one wants to mess with them

[solar sable]

sub 1000 players have infested Retal MM

[dense roost]

i spent two weeks in rng hell for a suboptimal backpack so I get you

[strong cave]

those same sub 1000 players all infesting retal are the same sub 1000 braindead players that are flooding my groups whenever i DO manage to matchmake for anything. still dying with proto is s a d

[junior lagoon]

do some legendaries for those mods

[strong cave]

honestly in 4 countdown runs i could easily have that bag. or i could straight up craft it. also why 2 piece walker

[fierce ether]

hollow man blueprint can be farmed?

[dense roost]

played so much countdown and this pos just wouldn't drop for me with these stats for some reason kek

[fierce ether]

doing retaliations or something like that?

[strong cave]

Retaliations, yes. you have to buy reconstructed caches from them

[dense roost]

also ^

[solar sable]

"but my build does more dmg than yours"
(it's a fkn NBB Foundry build)

[solar sable]

funneh enough, I already asked that

[strong cave]

in my case its core strength users arguing with me about being able to tank, deal damage, and use skills

[fierce ether]

i mean hollow man blueprint only can be dropped from reconstructed caches?

and not completing any retaliation or control point?

[strong cave]

yes. get to farming retals. you got a LOT of blueprints to get

[fierce ether]

then there are two ways, rng opening reconstructed caches or doing retaliations

[strong cave]

even at my level ive still not got all the BP's

[fierce ether]

omg and now i dont have moponey

50k each cache jesus

[strong cave]

theres not no. you have to play retal, clear it, use your resources to craft the caches. then hope and pray you get hollowman

thats the only way to get that blueprint. unless you want to grind Descent. thats worse

[fierce ether]

other way is just doing DZ when target loot is mask like today

[strong cave]

also 50k coins is stupid easy to get. just run a few countdowns and sell all the junk you pick up lol

[fierce ether]

i got one hollow man mask

[strong cave]

yup then you get to deal with the rogues that know thats why people are there. so theyll grief you. i would know, i was one myself

[fierce ether]

i am lvl 6 in DZ i was alone xd

farming landmarks

[strong cave]

we would intentionally go in on AR targeted dz knowing people will fall for the "it makes EB drop chances better" and just grief

rifles were another one too

you can try dark zone but honestly the most surefire way is retaliation. dont have to deal with pvp at all

especially with the cheating issues on this game and how dz is...

[fierce ether]

well then the farm retaliations is to get the exotic coin to make reconstructed cache right?

50k and dont remember the name of other exotic resource but it is dropped from reta i guess

[dense roost]

whatever massive dev spawned 3 chungas in my retal while im at a time deficit already on my second obj. have a bad day.

[strong cave]

RNG be RNG'in

[solar sable]

Fully stacked HH Shotgun w/Brazen is laughing

[strong cave]

me laughing in Bluescreen:

[solar sable]

did you get a Bluescreen? my bad, I didn't know your pc couldn't handle such power

[dense roost]

unfortunately i am a destiny player and i have not learned that i cannot have the best of all worlds in this game yet

[strong cave]

no but ubisoft crashed as I quit my game. doesnt hurt my feelings, im not logging back into div for a bit again

maybe if the micro season pass they give us has stuff for free I care to go for. other than that, catch me next week during the corrosion event

[mighty forum]

If I do not have a good Hollow Man for LMG build for escalation. What's the next best option to pair with Overdogs + Strikers

[ocean wyvern]

Equalizer imo

unless you're doing higher tiers, at that point I'd say maybe salvo?

[mighty forum]

Yeah, I'd like to do higher tiers

Also, I do have a hollow man but it's trash

[ocean wyvern]

then yeah, salvo since you want the extra stacks with the striker chest

[mighty forum]

What's the best way to farm Hollow man currently?

[cerulean smelt]

retaliations for reconstructed caches

otherwise DZ mask target loot, named caches, conflict caches or dark zone caches i think?

[ocean wyvern]

that's for the blueprint, which is ideally what you'd want anyways

[mighty forum]

10-4, thanks. I have to get all my stuff to 30 first before I wanna try escalation. Just want to have a solid build before I go in

[cerulean smelt]

named caches you can obtain PVE, the others you'll have to submit to PVPing and winning the lottery

[ocean wyvern]

you can run low tier escalations up to T3-4 with just a well rolled nonproto build

[mighty forum]

I'm currently using Scorpio as a secondary as well. Is there a better option?

Okay cool

[ocean wyvern]

What primary are you running?

[mighty forum]

It's a work in progress from spending some time doing some research on what to use in higher tier Escalations

[solar sable]

I'm seeing a flaw on your build

[subtle bluff]

to note that's a escalation build and shouldn't be used in normal PvE

[cerulean smelt]

LMG? scorpio?

[upper yew]

are those legendaries named ?

[solar sable]

Salvo

[cerulean smelt]

brutal, well it's probably a decent place holder until they get something better at least?

[mighty forum]

I man I can go Ceskas Mask?

[subtle bluff]

In escalation while yes you want more DPS but with frenzy is making up more burst Ceska helps a lot in improving your mag dmg

[solar sable]

why is there not a nod emoji on this thing

[solar sable]

yup, Ceska Mask is good

[cerulean smelt]

might have to give discord some feed back "GIVE US THIS OR I HOLD YOUR MONEY HOSTAGE!" 😹

[mighty forum]

Does it matter if I use mods or not? LIke can I choose not to use them? Does it just put me in lobbies where people are not using them as well?

[subtle bluff]

gear mods?

[cerulean smelt]

escalation mods

[brazen blade]

I'm new to the game. can any1 help me get started?

[mighty forum]

Seasonal Mods are what i'm talking about

This

[cerulean smelt]

thought you meant the escalations mods my bad. no clue, but i think it'll just be whoever you join if they have them on or not you'd also have them on, kind of like an STD

[smoky latch]

lmfao

[vernal wing]

The one before that

There was a recent one that gave increased crit. I never pay attention to them.

[lament reef]

Sure, but there’s not really a reason to. It’s a bunch of free stats. Matchmaking puts you to whatever the host has on.

[woeful vector]

What’s the umbra build?

[lone violet]

hard to find people to run escal unless its better for me to hit lvl 30 then go do it

[fierce obsidian]

What do i use instead of split utility for passive modifier? For max skill damage or haste

[lament reef]

compress -> split -> invert

[fierce obsidian]

There is no split anymore

[junior lagoon]

i wonder if they will also give something for unspnet btsu points

[lament reef]

what do you mean there’s no more split

[fierce obsidian]

I dont see split utility in the shop

[smoky latch]

Split is unlocked by default

[fierce obsidian]

Offense i do have but not utility

Is it sturate defense > compress utility > invert utility?