td2-build-advice

[warped musk]

Damn I don't have momento yet, anyplace you recommend to farm for it?

[icy jasper]

Usually gunner as it has some good qol especially for cqb play style or u can use firewall for the shield n use mods that can increase the damage

[warped musk]

Ic ic

[icy jasper]

Definitely it's top teir exotic for solo play style

Falls off in groups as in a good group u will struggle to keep getting tags

[exotic talon]

game refuses to give me a good picaro

[warped musk]

Tags?

[icy jasper]

Although once u get 30 all u have to do is get one every now and then

[icy jasper]

Yea momento when. U kill someone they drop a tag or whatever and u pick it up and get short term buffs and long ones

[smoky latch]

Aka kill trophies

[icy jasper]

The long one goes till 30 tags

[icy jasper]

MB I'll call em trophies

[warped musk]

Is it possible to get the momento in the countdown exotic caches?

[icy jasper]

Yea or any where as it's in the general target loot pool

[warped musk]

Ah gotcha

[icy jasper]

Can farm backpack Target loot n get it or get it from any exotic caches

Also if u don't have it yet get the Scorpio shotgun exotic it's good for hunters fury

[warped musk]

Sweet, ima farm countdown on heroic with backpacks as targeted loot

[warped musk]

I think i have it, might have 2

[icy jasper]

I'd help u farm for it but no cross play yet so , GL tho

[warped musk]

thanks mate

[gentle lichen]

Try challenging if the teams you get into are bad

[warped musk]

Bet

[gentle lichen]

Not much of a difference in loot quality

[viscid plaza]

Build is doing well in conflict, just switch red core for yellow core on gloves for PVP version

[gentle lichen]

What servers is this

[viscid plaza]

NAE

[gentle lichen]

I played with my stack like 30 mins ago unfortunate we didn't meet lol

[viscid plaza]

Precision Smart Cover and Jammer does really well on maps with open lines of sight like the forest-like map

Maybe we did meet lol, I have some bad games

[gentle lichen]

I'd remember that name cause it's funny

[viscid plaza]

People say PVP sucks and its a joke, but every day I play conlict I see new people all the time playing it

Even with no event I rarely see the same names

[gentle lichen]

This event might actually make me do a shit ton more conflict purely cause of the levels
5m xp on a single match is out of this world

[viscid plaza]

Yeah I just do a 3 or 4 game session and have like 20 watch levels out of it and 20+ caches

[gentle lichen]

Lowk i don't even open the caches i just get into the mood and run matches back to back

[tawdry raven]

is there a crit build for breaking point set?

[regal dock]

can anyone recommend me a build for pistol shield?

[smoky latch]

Use the discord search in this channel, posted one yesterday

[subtle bluff]

Not really. OD does a lot better job at that.

[stone python]

good gr9 attributes?

[plush cloak]

Is equalizer+salvo+ninja BP+3 striker a pvp build? I see it everywhere.

[smoky latch]

Ppl use it in PvE

Sometimes even high tier Escalations...

[subtle bluff]

Equalizer on a rifle build isn't the greatest idea due to how long it take to build those stacks on a rifle.

[foggy imp]

Is the investor worth trying to get all reds for the 30 crit

[subtle bluff]

I doubt it everywhere.

[subtle bluff]

There are 84 different combinations.

[plush cloak]

Sorry I didn’t realize we were being literal

[smoky latch]

I would not waste exo comps on that

[lone wadi]

no

[earnest pendant]

No, do not use that in pvp

[ocean wyvern]

What even would one use in PvP?

[plush cloak]

I thought general consensus for pve is that ninja BP is not good.

[lone wadi]

its different for pvp, it can be used with certain builds

[earnest pendant]

Strikers is not good for pvp

[ocean wyvern]

This is correct

[earnest pendant]

The best all rounder right now for pvp is core strength

[plush cloak]

I just see a lot of high SHD level players running that around the White House.

[subtle bluff]

I mean.... You said it...

[smoky latch]

A lot of people have no clue tho and keep running it

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't mean it's good...

[plush cloak]

Who am I supposed to take inspiration from other than high SHD players? You don’t have to answer if you’re just going to belittle every question someone asks.

[ocean wyvern]

high SHD level doesn't necessarily mean good build or good skill

[lone wadi]

it is good, just niche for 2 areas/few builds

[smoky latch]

Everyone can play a game a lot to reach a high level, but as Attakin just said, does not automatically mean they have a clue of what they're doing

[solar sable]

Basically:

[smoky latch]

Certain discords are a good place to ask for advice

Such as this one, for instance

[ocean wyvern]

For a genuine answer, there's quite a few builds in the spreadsheet in the pinned messages, many of which built by folks in here with quite comprehensive guides on why certain items are chosen

[tulip charm]

wdym I shouldnt put blind faith on players because of their SHD and not their game knowledge

[solar sable]

42

[tulip charm]

😭

[ocean wyvern]

to that I say 02496

[plush cloak]

Is it? Not if Chow is hanging around, apparently.

[obtuse crystal]

True a shd 100k with a aegis build would be better than a shd 2k with strikers

[lone wadi]

haha chow's one of the best out there

[smoky latch]

He is not as bad as you may think he is. Being straightfoward is sth not many ppl may be accustomed to. Chow knows his stuff and helps with questions a lot

[plush cloak]

Fair enough. I will check out the pinned stuff. Thank you!

[solar sable]

whoa, Chow is never aggressive, he just wants to be direct and take shortcuts because we've made a lot of guides to answer lots of questions

f.i. the Lvl40 Starters Guide was recently updated

[obtuse crystal]

He’s just somewhat blunt tbh

[tulip charm]

Now ur speaking my language

[plush cloak]

I’ve asked questions before and they’re rude as hell. Thank you for the help, though.

[solar sable]

Haven't seen you around here, hope you get along better

[onyx sage]

straight up with you, he's just blunt. english isn't his first language. but i beg you to bear with me, the resources he produces are worth checking out

heck, it's not my first language either

[subtle bluff]

I've learned it's also probably my ADHD that doesn't help.

[ocean wyvern]

Honestly, I feel like you guys answer very objectively, which can come off blunt, but there's always logic and reasoning to the conclusion

[onyx sage]

and i bully you because people keep mentioning the other Chow instead of you

[subtle bluff]

Sorry bud. Yes, sometimes my bluntness comes in too hard.

[obtuse crystal]

Wait there’s another chow now

[subtle bluff]

Poor chow. ImMrChow

[onyx sage]

except me, i'm just average so i just come here to meme around

[subtle bluff]

Yeah when you just do @ chow it doesn't come up with me. Lol.

[obtuse crystal]

Yep there’s 2 other chows :c

[subtle bluff]

No no... ImMrChow

[lone wadi]

an averge player vs THE average player

[subtle bluff]

And I'm washed... I can't keep up with a Proto Mortdog build...

💀

[ocean wyvern]

Mortdog build?

[subtle bluff]

It's mortar with overdogs.

[ocean wyvern]

Ah, I always forget the mortar is a skill in this game

[hexed steppe]

best skill in this game*

[subtle bluff]

At least I've dub it so and the 2 players have been going nuts with it.

[obtuse crystal]

Oh proto pieces changed so many builds

[ocean wyvern]

I know it's got a hell of a ceiling though

[subtle bluff]

There's some fun at least.

[obtuse crystal]

Yeah true

[subtle bluff]

EP Dog

[obtuse crystal]

That sounds peak tbh

[subtle bluff]

Local made iirc I just haven't farmed proto and I don't have any exo mats left.

[plush cloak]

It’s all good. Shortness and bluntness doesn’t exactly endear new users to the discord, fyi.

[subtle bluff]

Nah for sure. I did come a bit too hard with what you said.

[subtle bluff]

I'm also semi jaded from some of these new players...

[obtuse crystal]

I will try ep dog tbh as soon as I get the pieces for it thank you for the screenshot of the build

[onyx sage]

what's ep, dog?

[hexed steppe]

you can do it without proto by using tech class and itll tick for 1mil plus full expertise and stacked

with sticky

[obtuse crystal]

But firewall spec I want to watch them burn for even longer

[hexed steppe]

why i did proto 😎

[hallow arch]

Bunny Ears!?

[obtuse crystal]

Yeah there’s a hat with cat ears too

[hallow arch]

...how do I obtain them.

[obtuse crystal]

I bought the hat in the store idk about the helmet though as I don’t own it

[subtle bluff]

Alt toon. I have too many loadouts on my main.

I may have bought it. I don’t remember.

[hexed steppe]

easter before last i think, season event

[weak quail]

Is there reason you use snow machine? Does that status even do anything? When i used it, it felt purely cosmetic

[smoky latch]

It is cosmetic but why not

[hexed steppe]

its eletrique. any would do in mask/knee/holster... i just had that one available at the time

[weak quail]

Just making sure i wasn’t missing some utility, i forgot what brand “grease” is

[smoky latch]

Shiny Monkey

[hexed steppe]

bad spread but big burn

[ocean wyvern]

That's the real SHD tech, Spreading Hellfire Destruction

[weak quail]

Overdogs sneaking its way in skill builds is pretty funny

Im not familiar to all the talent icons yet. What’s on the armor?

[ocean wyvern]

That's Glass Cannon, but I'm pretty sure that's a Sacrifice with PGC

[weak quail]

Ohhhhh

[hexed steppe]

the chest there is perfect glass cannon. with amalgam augment

[ocean wyvern]

I'd assume that's the status effect one with EP

[hexed steppe]

trapper on holster

[subtle bluff]

30% x 30% x 30% amp is nuts

[weak quail]

Trapper sounds amazing for EP, too bad i hear it falls off bad T6+

[hexed steppe]

yeah ep in escalations is doodoo

mortar is ok from what little ive played, higher levels probably not so much tho

[fair dragon]

Mortar falls off in terms of kills T8+

At that point its just a soft CC build - enemies still do react to the mortars and attempt to roll away from it instead of shooting at you or teammates

[junior lagoon]

is breaking point used in any build?

[smoky latch]

Rifle one-shot builds

[solar sable]

Just the mask and holster afaik

[smoky latch]

Doesn't drop with HSD for me after several runs. Mildly annoying

[junior lagoon]

i got knee and backpack

[floral hinge]

What would be a good loadout for escalation? Im thinking of running solos but am up against a wall at T3, getting mixed results with my striker build

[steady garnet]

Hello. I have a 4 piece striker build with grupo sombra chest (obliterate) and savannah gloves. Weapons are elmos, acs 12 and quickstep, all red cores, AR focused. Recently optimized it and now crit damage is 127 and crit chance is 47. When I try boost CHC then CHD drops. I cant reach 50+ and 140 CHD. I boost one the other drops and the other way around. SHD 270. Would appreciate some advice.

[smoky latch]

Show a screenshot of your build

[smoky latch]

What brand is Savannah Gloves? You best also show a SS of your build

[steady garnet]

I think its contractors

[floral hinge]

Strikers, eagles named gloves, the named one with obliterate for the chest and ninjabike with a crit focus. Cant boot the game up right now so cant send a screenshot, sorry

[lone wadi]

replace groupo chest with named unit alloys equalizer chestpiece and replace gloves with overdogs exotic gloves. Get as close to 60 chc as you can and rest into crit dmg. Because you’re only shd 200 something don’t worry about your crit dmg compared to everyone else’s, you still don’t have watch stats maxed

[smoky latch]

Drop the NBB for the Striker's backpack. The Striker's chest at that tier isn't really necessary so you can an stick to the Equalizer chest. If you don't have them yet farm for Overdogs gloves

[floral hinge]

Noted. Appreciate the advice

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

This is a great build for high tier Escalations

#td2-build-advice message

These two versions are nice for general play, the Overdogs variant for lower tier Escalations

[steady garnet]

Its walker and harris co savanna field gloves, heres a pic

[smoky latch]

Check the builds I linked above

[rare abyss]

would you guys reccomend to have one build with Lexington + Bluescreen and one build with Elmo + Gear Shift?

[mint steeple]

What’s the go to DPS build rn
I haven’t played in a while
Currently rocking striker,coyote,obliterate

[smoky latch]

It depends on the build which weapon/s to use.

Gear Shift isn't that great tho

[rare abyss]

its not? i quite like it though

[steady garnet]

@smoky latch @lone wadi Thank you

[smoky latch]

I'd rather recommend a regular MK46 with Measured. The thing with Perfectly Measured is that the first half the magazine does 5% less WD than regular Measured, by the time you reach the bottom half most NPCs are already in cover and you don't get the damage benefit of the increased 8% weapon damage

You can use it but I don't see it beneficial much, personally

[smoky latch]

Check the first pinned message on this channel, it'll guide you to a spreadsheet with build suggestions

Striker's guide is updated

[hollow mantle]

This mask is worth to keep if i drop her from black tusk robot in the new SHD world event ?

[thorn smelt]

Yes

[spare idol]

whats the best general lmg?

[hollow mantle]

I need special build for her?

[balmy geyser]

Depends

[hazy steeple]

@spare idol There's a few overall good ones, but it sorta depends on your build.
If you just want a good one for Striker, try to focus on one with a large mag size, and a fire-rate over 900+

e.g. mk46, gr9, etc.

[thorn smelt]

Depends that maak is good for a tank build

[subtle bluff]

It's more for PvP builds. It's alright.

[thorn smelt]

True there are also good pve builds for it. Not alot of people use it

[subtle bluff]

Not really "good" content creators will make you believe those are good builds but there really not good builds.

Eating bullets to stand in the same position where you got shot isn't a good idea to do in general.

[balmy geyser]

Begone

[smoky latch]

Delete your Exodus gloves too, they deserve it more

[balmy geyser]

lmao

[spare idol]

im trying heart breaker and so far its been working real good with the ones i have

but i be hearing about the 249 but dont htink ive ever seen one drop

[smoky latch]

MK46/M249 B are currently part of the high tier meta DPS builds

[spare idol]

i got a mk46 but the trait is buns

and 249 is a random drop?

[smoky latch]

Just like any other high-end LMG

[spare idol]

whats some of the better traits for them?

i hear frenzy is good in some instances

[smoky latch]

Frenzy, Strained, Ranger is a bit niche but nice if you don't main it, Measured on the right archetype (I'd not recommend Gear Shift personally)

[spare idol]

yea gear shift is fun when killing red or purple bars, otherwise i cant use it fr

but thanks, ima run countdown and target lmgs and pray i get a good one

[smoky latch]

It's more about how Perfectly Measured works. I'd prefer a regular MK46 with basic Measured

[languid wasp]

I wonder what should I change

[smoky latch]

Keep wondering

[spare idol]

the changed damage and fire rate compared to the regular?

[smoky latch]

5% less WD for the first half of the magazine

Gives 8% more for the bottom half but not that useful in a lot of cases

[spare idol]

yea i was just thinking that

its more damage but that first half is kinda like time wasted

when you can have more in the top half

[languid wasp]

idk if that's a different meaning for "nah, you're good to go"

[smoky latch]

This is 1:1 (assuming the attributes are correct) the recommended healer build from the spreadsheet and iKia's suggestions. What do you want to change and for which activity?

[languid wasp]

Escalation for sure, I haven't make one yet but I do have to GET one since most of people are doing dps build.

[smoky latch]

You should practice with it before going into higher tiers because healing there can be demanding

You could run Birdie's all the time and use an Alps chest with ER if your team needs it

Helps to have several pieces for variants in your inventory so you can adapt

[subtle bluff]

Escalation really shows what a good support player is and a bad one.

[viscid plaza]

Even if you prototype a FI build, wouldn't you put weapon cores on it rather than armor if planning to play it in escalation?

[smoky latch]

No room for core changes with that build

Well aside from The Setup

[viscid plaza]

ah

and the spec you would run is survivalist so you cant even get a free skill tier

[exotic talon]

this is the perfect pre-proto FI build

[viscid plaza]

but yes you would still run 3 yellow proto cores, and have the gloves exotic yellow

thats 2 cores you can work with

[viscid plaza]

So I summon you again, would your remaining 2 cores not be red? I feel like this just shows how bad the mutators design is as it forces just red gameplay

[subtle bluff]

tbh it doesn't really matter maybe a blue could be nice but good gameplay on FI is way more impactful.

[warm lagoon]

Put measured on my Lexington. The difference in damage numbers throws me off so bad lol, but it definitely feels like its TTK is way faster then when I use St Elmos

[subtle bluff]

Elmo isn't a burst weapon

[warm lagoon]

Yea. Im just saying looking at the numbers poping up from the top half to bottom half of the magazine throws me off.

[livid sorrel]

my math might be off but i tried comparing investor to coyote and overdogs

[glacial shoal]

What is the difference between level and rank for gear?

[buoyant tangle]

For an escalation striker build with a little survivability - What's a good number to shoot for for armor?

[shy willow]

To be blunt, ideally none

Enemies have increased damage multipliers that you will not be able to combat with increased armour

Best is to maximise damage

[buoyant tangle]

So, straight DPS squishy build is what's needed?

[ocean wyvern]

Honestly yeah, armor gets shredded so fast that building into it becomes pointless

700k or 4M, you're dead in less than a second anyways

[weak quail]

Perfect glass cannon is just a perrfect cannon in escalation cause we already a glass there

[ocean wyvern]

Perfect Paper ICBM when

[buoyant tangle]

Thank you guys

Does striker chest become viable in escalation since enemies take so many hits you can actually build the stacks or nah?

[soft crane]

Yes

[buoyant tangle]

I know I still have to do some optimization, expertise and unlock gunner (strikers not my main) but does this look viable?

[obtuse shoal]

I was getting 3.1 mill crit hits…. Whole time I was dreaming

Bruh I can’t get my st Elmo’s to have chd and dttoc for the life of me!!!!

[viscid plaza]

What content do you usually play

[misty walrus]

is it good roll??

[buoyant tangle]

I'm just working on a build for higher escalation. Normally I like open world, missions, retals. But I have a lot of builds for that content already.

[viscid plaza]

You have the right parts, if you get overdogs gloves and an LMG with frenzy you are 90% of the way there to a strong enough escalation build past T5

[viscid plaza]

This works fine up to T5

[buoyant tangle]

That would be better than big al? I was figuring you are using cover a lot so it would be good.

[viscid plaza]

Big Al is decent, but an MK46 or whatever LMG you are comfortable with will outperform it

[obtuse shoal]

Can I get frenzy on the stoner?

[buoyant tangle]

GR9 maybe? I figure something with 200 rounds would be preferred?

[obtuse shoal]

Me and that gun could’ve been married the many times I used it 🥰

[buoyant tangle]

yes you can get frenzy on a stoner

[viscid plaza]

More than 175 rounds could lead to downtime on frenzy, but if you prefer that lmg you can use it

[buoyant tangle]

I have a M249 para that has DTA and DTOC maxed, maybe go with that one since it's a really good roll??

Appreciate the feedback bro

[viscid plaza]

M249 works fine, the pain point is the reload speed

[buoyant tangle]

Is the shield still worth bringing or does it just get eaten up to quick to be useful?

[viscid plaza]

In escalation it is worthless, I'd also note the M249 fire rate is impressive

Completely forgot MK46 is part of the M249 family, yeah that weapon is completely fine to run

[buoyant tangle]

What's good to run instead of the shield in there?

[viscid plaza]

Decoy, precision smart cover is my favorite, and a reviver

If its a BT mission theres argument to bring EMP sticky

[short verge]

the cost of getting a triple red roll for tinkerer, i pray the rest of you get luckier

[obsidian bronze]

should i keep my mk46 with DtA if my stats gave 52% chc or get chc on it? debating on which to proto

[hazy steeple]

You want as close to 60% chc as you can get without going over the limit, and it's better to get CHC on your gun so your gear can use more CHD rolls. (for LMG's)
I'd swap to CHC.

[obsidian bronze]

hm alrighty

[bright sundial]

Obli striker with coyote,got my chc at 50 and chd 150 with lex killer,how can i raise my chd even more??

Also should i sacrifice some chd for a larger magazine?

[hazy steeple]

Is your SHD watch maxed out?

And yes, you should always take the biggest mag possible. Or actually for this season, check out the Modifiers.

[bright sundial]

Yes shd watch maxed

Yeah 30 mag isnt enough

Using lex with killer

[hazy steeple]

Traditionally, you want the biggest mag possible on a gun via mods, for AR's that's the +20 size.

with modifiers right now, you can get some free mag size though.

[bright sundial]

Nice gonna check if i have it unlocked already

Ty

[hazy steeple]

found a cheat-sheet for the mod table, but there's a few laying around.
happy nerding!

[short verge]

twenty second overdrive?! im inspired now

[soft crane]

500+ and still counting

[obsidian bronze]

just thought tho having chc on my lmg wouldnt make a difference in letting me add a chd

[foggy imp]

The bloom assault rifle any good?

[warped musk]

what would be a funny and dumb build to use that would fit the vibe of "hello kitty powerhouse"

[exotic talon]

huntsman with anime girl skin

[warped musk]

bet

[marsh wyvern]

Looking to farm striker gear set. Any suggestions or recommendations anyone?

[tulip charm]

Countdown in challenging

[marsh wyvern]

Thank you. What system are you on? Was gonna run later on ps5

[normal shadow]

You can see everyone's platform, it's marked after their name. For instance you have PS, I've got PC and so on.

[drifting fiber]

y'all should i scrap this useless named prototype that i spent resources on to expertise 30 to get the prototype core back?

[vernal wing]

Save it in case they add recalibrations or optimization for Protos later

[lone wadi]

Well what is it

[marsh wyvern]

Add me up gents - KyoshiSoto on psn. Be on later this evening est to try to do countdown for the striker gear

[coral reef]

Man of culture

[long dove]

is coco pesti the highest dps build? never seen anything like this dmg before each shot is around 1m and dot is around 2m without expertise or optimized gear

[urban latch]

That's not really that high as it might seem.

[smoky latch]

CoCo allows for the highest Pestilence ticks

[long dove]

yeah i understand but is that so bad to have with full stacks each bullet 1m/2m what more could outdmg it a full optimized striker is around 1.5m per shot? just wondering cuz this is the first time yellow named enemies are melting for me lol

[smoky latch]

Probably TS fully stacked also in that range

[long dove]

i finally built TS today and i was hitting 1.7m per shot with frenzy dunno if i can do more still missing few upgrades

but pesti ticks i noticed can clear enemies before i see them thats why its so interesting like the enemies spawning through doors from miles die before they come to me

[lone wadi]

is it still worth going to 60 chc on TS if im at 59.5

[smoky latch]

Nah that's okay

[bleak flume]

What build works good with lmg and AR s. Besides tipping scales

[hexed steppe]

Nego, striker

[bleak flume]

But easy to get with armor or groll

[hexed steppe]

Either

Dont roll armor on them

[bleak flume]

Rn using unit alloy with ninja bag, and ongoing directive

It melts but only cus hallo point bleed effect.

[hexed steppe]

Say no to ninja

Youll melt better

[bleak flume]

Should work better with different bag ?

[hexed steppe]

Yes, ongoing directive synergises with wicked bag talent, striker or nego you use the set bag

There are guides in our pinned sheet for all these setups

[bleak flume]

Nego a named bag ?

[gentle lichen]

Negotiator's dilemma a gearset

[hexed steppe]

Negotiators dilemma and striker are gearsets like ongoing directive

[bleak flume]

Oh ok . Haven't messed with that set forgot was in game ngl

[hexed steppe]

Its a solid set

[bleak flume]

How much can get on crit average

[gentle lichen]

On ongoing or negotiator's?

[bleak flume]

Nego

[gentle lichen]

Depends on the weapon but on bluescreen it can be around 900k which bag can amp it upwards to a mil

[bleak flume]

I occasionally swap My exotic to pesti,, the lung , or somtime ballet king or bluescreen

[patent fossil]

Then multiply by 3 if you've got targets tagged for the actual damage output

[bleak flume]

Mainly asking cus my tipping scales build is like 600k - 900k

[long dove]

why dmg to armor is bad on LMG?

[hexed steppe]

Who said anything about dta

But its not ideal

You roll crit chance on lmg

[gentle lichen]

Honestly proto nego can get so much chc that i think the minor on lmg can be a flex slot

[long dove]

im over 60% prob 70% cuz of LMG mods each attachment gives 5%

[hexed steppe]

Then adjust your gear rolls for more chd

[long dove]

RoF still good as 3rd core?

[hexed steppe]

If you really dont need the chance you generally roll rof

[long dove]

yeah with frenzy seems insane

[smoky latch]

Attribute, not core. An item only has one core

[long dove]

yeah meant atrri

[hexed steppe]

This may be altered a bit with proto gear tho

So someone correct me if dta is better at times

[bleak flume]

I mainly wanna get ability to hit hard like striker but nit be squishy low health but in different set

[urban latch]

RPM matters. Pesti ticks happen every half second, so thats 120RPM. 2m hits at 120rpm is equivalent to 266k hits at 900rpm, its just not that much

[neon canyon]

Would anyone know the 2nd and/3rd best DPS gear set/build under Strikers?

[long dove]

oh damn thats why then

[dapper glacier]

quick one peeps when you reroll an augment it says it cost 1 but when you do it takes more. is there a visual bug or something?

[smoky latch]

You're mixing up costs

The first reroll is two cores. Seen in the top half of the menu. Leveling up your augment costs one core the first time, seen in the bottom half

[normal shadow]

For what content?

[bright raptor]

all red Heartbreaker, Tipping Scales with a good LMG, the old all red high end crit build

Negotiator's Dilemma is more of a sidegrade as you can match Striker through the damage sharing, but requires target management

[upper yew]

I am using this build for pestilence and I am really satisfied but do you guys recommend I switch to a brand set that would increase something else than lmg dmg or is petrov good for this loadout ?

by brand set I mean the yellow gear not the green gear set

[subtle bluff]

How to pesti https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?usp=sharing

[wispy timber]

if you want to use memento with it maybe you can try to play with contractor gloves or fox kneepad

[upper yew]

wdym fox kneepad ?

oh fox's prayer

[upper yew]

is both contractor and fox a part of petrov defense group set ?

[wispy timber]

nah only contractor

[ocean wyvern]

Contractor's = Petrov, Fox's = Overlord Arms, as shown above

[smoky latch]

It tells you "Overlord Armaments" ^^

[subtle bluff]

I posted a pesti guide for you..

[upper yew]

thank you

but that guide keeps telling me to use glass cannon talent aint that thing gonna make me go down again and again I already get shredded if I get caught one second out of cover on heroic

[smoky latch]

Practice makes perfect. You can stay in cover a lot with Pestilence and let the ticks do the work, especially solo

Use a decoy or a drone to deflect aggro from yourself, keep shooting NPCs to build up more ticks etc.

[neon canyon]

Oh, I thought hunters fury would’ve been on the list!

[upper yew]

would a level 0 drone or decoy would make more work

[smoky latch]

I like the decoy most but it's also personal preference. T0 is perfectly fine

These seasonal modifiers are great because they allow for diverse choices. For instance you can reduce your skill colldowns which means you can use your decoy a lot more

(But it works well without any modifiers, too)

[upper yew]

yea but rn I am grinding global event stars and it makes modifiers go away

I think I'll take striker since I can send it to someone whos camping a cover

then again I dont know if they focus the drone or me stirker is inconsistent when it comes to drawing aggro

[smoky latch]

Aggro/threat depends on several factors - to this day I'm not sure I fully understand it lmao

[summer flax]

not sure why my messages kept getting deleted but anyone tried Huntsman with the perfect frenzy talent? its nice damage output

[smoky latch]

Yeah it's also annoying to keep up Frenzy reliably

Frenzy better fit for LMGs

[summer flax]

well thats tru

[subtle bluff]

But it also explains what else is good to use.

[bright raptor]

also the FAMAS got hurt a bunch by the recoil changes

[smoky latch]

FAMAS recoil was always kicking upwards

[bright raptor]

so while Perfect Frenzy is stronger on paper, Perfect On Empty in practice helps much more by ensuring more rounds end up on target

[smoky latch]

Measured on FAMAS is nice

[vernal wing]

What’s your favorite build for low tier escalations?

[hasty bough]

meant to search this, ignore

[subtle bluff]

Dunno if I have one. Probably striker still I haven’t messed too much.

[hasty bough]

is there a list of the maximum attribute values for proto gear somewhere?

[subtle bluff]

The scaling and AI just makes striker simple

[subtle bluff]

1.5% more is the max

[smoky latch]

50% increase

[upper yew]

I am NOT using glass cannon talent, I died 4 times during one control point

[gentle lichen]

When using concentrated with pestilence i honestly felt like nothing was trying to damage me

Kinda crazy

[vernal wing]

Take the max base value,
Multiply it by 3
Divide it by 2

[subtle bluff]

Dev math!

[subtle bluff]

On TS + Pesti that makes since because you're trying to stacks everything at once.
Imo pesti isn't too great on pesti due it's ammo size and reload speed.

[neon canyon]

Is hunters furry or heartbreaker better to damage?

[subtle bluff]

They both do good. Depending on a few factors. Read the talents

Also "better to dmg"?

[keen plank]

Does anyone have an atomize grenade build already? How good is the damage or is it not worth it?

[smoky latch]

More important things to aim for IMO 😄

[keen plank]

I know the radius is fugging massive for the nades

[subtle bluff]

Which is good for sledgehammer, sticky nades etc.

[wispy timber]

hey where to find birdies ?

[wraith shuttle]

hello can everyone help me with the Quickstep?

[ocean wyvern]

Master Roosevelt Manhunt gives 1 for 1st master completion, beyond that, farm backpacks

[subtle bluff]

It's not in the general loot pool. maybe retal now but I don't keep track of that one.

[subtle bluff]

Wrong channel.

[wispy timber]

ohh ok ok thanks

[fleet gulch]

Just wondering, is Ongoing Directive considered a strong build for teamplay since it gives teammates special ammo, and is LMG the best weapon to use with it?

[ocean wyvern]

I would imagine so, LMGs are usually the weapon of choice but it plays well with ARs as well imo, but the Tinkerer variant is the best

[patent fossil]

It doesn't scale well into higher tier escalations, but other than that yes, it's a strong option both solo and in teams

[fleet gulch]

Tinkerer is the helmet that doubles your talent, right?

[patent fossil]

Doesn't get as high damage as striker of course but doesn't need to stack either, and makes you pretty much immune to ammo limiting directives

[patent fossil]

Yes, usual combination is sadist with either killer or pressure point. Overdogs is also a strong option, and lets you run Carnage (lmg with perfect sadist).

[fleet gulch]

Let's say your LMG has 200 rounds capacity, does that mean you give 100 rounds to everyone else in the team when a marked target dies?

[subtle bluff]

No. It agents mag size and not the OD user mag size.

[fleet gulch]

Ah, I see.

[upper yew]

another day another grind at dihvision

[upper yew]

does anything else other than shooting with high rpm weapons affect suppression ?

(so I can bring an smg with my pest to keep tipping scale stacks)

[subtle bluff]

LMG just does it the best. It's the con of using it.
SMG on TS isn't great due to low mag size/firing time.

[upper yew]

but if I bring a second lmg then I am gonna bleed ammo

pest only has 100 rounds
130 with gear bonus

[lone wadi]

you can bring a lucky shot rifle

[upper yew]

isnt it like a bolt action rifle talent ? it is gonna be like 1 shot fired every 3 seconds, I need to shoot 70 times to max out stacks

[smoky latch]

UIC15 MOD2 can be nice with TS as secondary

[subtle bluff]

I use m1a

[lone wadi]

doesnt matter, you can just hold down m1 since its for rifles too

[foggy imp]

What’s the best modifier combos for top dps

[upper yew]

I just tuned down the diff to challanging, risk to reward ratio MAY be worth it but cancer to fun ratio def doesnt

this week after playing only heroic made me want to go rogue

[onyx sage]

eh it'll get easier

[tulip minnow]

What are the best skills for solo play?

[smoky latch]

Depends and is also subjective. Reviver Hive / Decoy is nice for instance

[timid token]

Hey any good shocker punch build yall can share i want to try it out cause i just got the exotic

[flint arch]

destined for the stash

[junior lagoon]

there is one kamikaze literally posted today on youtube with st elmo for extra shocking.

cant say it is good though

[subtle bluff]

Actively wanting to go melee heroic or up ads isn't always a good idea.

[urban latch]

Theres a small niche for it when kiting boomer in dark hours, pairing with elmos to shock boomer and repeat down them. But outside that its basically useless

[flint arch]

stacking 7 quantum or something

[fleet gulch]

For Umbra Initiative, do people tend to use the set backpack compared to a backpack that helps you kill instead?

[tight wedge]

hi, any build reccs? Idk what to make

[solar sable]

the Lvl40 Starters Guide has a section on that

[ocean wyvern]

Do you have a striker set farmed out?

[tight wedge]

ya. got bored of it though

[tight wedge]

coolio. does it help im over shd 1k

[solar sable]

it doesn't matter

[ocean wyvern]

No worries, just covering the basics, I'm guessing you've probably got a lot of the staple named items then, personally, I've been having a ton of fun doing breaking point for heroic stuff just for something different

[tight wedge]

I do. ton of exotics too

[tight wedge]

why not? the bonuses work great

[solar sable]

because it's just a build list

[tight wedge]

Ok

[tight wedge]

question, what about this one? I forget its name but I didnt use it much

[solar sable]

Heartbreaker

[ocean wyvern]

Heartbreaker is alright, it's essentially striker with less damage and bonus armor but requires a pulse effect of some kind

But it plays pretty much like striker does

[tight wedge]

fun. I'll try it again. can I go all red or is armor required lol

[ocean wyvern]

All red, the tradeoff for less damage compared to striker is that your stacks gain you bonus armor

[tight wedge]

gotcha. any other build reccs? I'll try anything thats fun lol

[solar sable]

can go all red but the purpose of HB is at least having 4 blues

[tight wedge]

👍

I could always just make a new character to play the campaign again

[foggy imp]

Is nullify better or cascade. Debating since they are spendy to get

[hazy steeple]

You can make a bunch of the stats as maxed out without much fuss using Nullify.

[foggy imp]

Okay I’ll go with Nullify. Thank you

[hazy steeple]

this isn't extensive, but here's a few options.
(remember that once all 3 of your active modifiers are at max rank, you get a starting bonus to your stats)

[foggy imp]

Yeah I was going to try that second option with blackout.

[kind epoch]

I haven’t played in a couple months. What’s new with this event?

[smoky latch]

Wrong channel, ask in #ask-td2-community

[hybrid hatch]

Is there any reason I should make a new build for the new gearset or should I continue to ignore basically every new gear set except tipping scales

[smoky latch]

If you play PvP, worth it. If you like goofing around and experimenting with builds maybe as well. Otherwise nah

[hybrid hatch]

Aight thankx

Im still going to keep a full set in my stash for no reason 😂

[smoky latch]

Sure, can always get deleted

[junior lagoon]

You spelled negotiators dilemma wrong

[hexed steppe]

Purpose built, either way this is a bit outdated. You looking for cc version or damage ( fire ) version?

[wicked mica]

I got it from a google doc sent to me by @magic elk, I think said document stopped being updated after Y7S3

so I assumed it was still relatively up to date

[robust olive]

advices???

[hexed steppe]

Damage version has been overtaken by overdogs, cc version never used vile

[wicked mica]

what would be changed for each purpose then

there also is actually a fire build I was looking at too with Ortiz Exuro but now you have me questioning if that may also be out of date

[wicked mica]

this one

[solar sable]

backfire + TS = diminishing returns king

@robust olivefollow that ☝️

[hexed steppe]

Tech class, overdogs eletrique, ep bag/chest fire sticky/firestarter chem. If you have 2 proto ep pieces you can use other spec. Capacitor

Cc version generally uses habsburg named courier bag with perfect creeping death, eletrique piece, ep chest . Scorpio

[wicked mica]

which piece would be electrique optimally? holster, knees, mask?

[hexed steppe]

Doesn't matter

[wicked mica]

understandable

now I have to wonder if all the build images I had saved are out of date though

[hexed steppe]

Overdogs changed a lot of builds, now proto is as well

[wicked mica]

I had saved like 9 I was interested in trying + 1 I’m currently using

the one is a LMG ODI with overdogs

[hexed steppe]

They likely arent so out of date that they arent usable and also likely still strong

[wicked mica]

my only dislike is damage builds are inherently squishy when trying to maximize the damage output

I’ve thought about hybridizing but people seem to dislike that

[halcyon crater]

Kill enemy before they kill you

[wicked mica]

true but that only assumes I live long enough to kill them on higher difficulties

most I can manage is heroic and sometimes that gets hairy, and certain content I can’t even do that

I would love to be able to solo legendary strongholds for that exotic cache every week but there’s no way I could manage

I kinda wanna try a core strength PvP build that someone mentioned but they never actually told me what it is

[wicked mica]

do you have any good resource for more up to date builds that are actually good?

idk if there’s any YouTube channels that are actually good for that instead of just random crack builds

[hexed steppe]

Our pinned sheet

[wicked mica]

I’ve looked at that too, yea

sorry for the ping edub forgot to silent it

[magic elk]

was hella confused why i was pinged on this server. Glad to see you like the google doc

[wicked mica]

ye is good, just apparently a little outdated

at least some of the builds are anyway, idk about all

build crafting has always been something I can’t understand in games so I have no way of knowing unless someone more knowledgeable tells me

[wicked mica]

after looking more at the doc I think I’ll go with the Heartbreaker flatline setup, will give me a reason to use the Lexington

seems like I can go either way between Coyote’s Mask or Overdogs for it, as long as I use Ceska vigilance backpack

[hexed steppe]

Memento also synergizes well with hb. Lots of options

But yeah ceska vigilance otherwise

[wicked mica]

yea heartbreaker sounds like the vibe, I have pretty much all of it except for a few Heartbreaker pieces and that’s an easy farm in the summit

I might even be able to craft them

I do wish you could transmog exotics though, I would like to have the aesthetic of 6 matching pieces of armor. Granted if you’re wearing coyote’s mask that’s not a big deal since you’d only see it in like the DZ or the few contaminated areas, but still

[long dove]

is running proto TS with echo but bad rolls better than regular one with CHC/CHD?

[smoky latch]

Bruh

[bright sundial]

Coyote,4striker,ceska chest,lex killer chc 50 chd 150 i dont feel like im doing enough damage,group play piece of cake,get wrecked by kitsunebi solo

[plush pike]

what armour sets are good to use with the chameleon exotic gun?

[wicked mica]

feel like you should change that ceska chest to the unit alloys Equalizer named chest, and assuming you’re getting some of the crit damage from weapon mods probably change those weapon mods to crit chance

to make up for the difference

afaik equalizer is more or less the standard for striker builds

50% crit chance is low for having 150% damage from my understanding, at that point you should be at the 60% cap

[plush pike]

idk what my build crit chance is

[bright sundial]

Noted about equalizer,about the 50 chc doesnt coyote buff fix that gap?

Should i also switch to overdogs? I just feel my chd will drop a lot

[wicked mica]

both are good to my knowledge, idk which is considered better or if it’s situational

post the build, that would help

the only thing I know for sure is that 50% crit chance is low for having such high chd

If you’re using like three chd weapon mods and switch them to chc, you could swap to equalizer and still hit 57% and 135%

[flint arch]

overdogs 30% amp is more powerful than any coyote buffs

[wicked mica]

you know how to check the stats screen from your inventory? it shows you there

[plush pike]

my crit chance is 15% XD

though only 25% crit damage so no biggie

[wicked mica]

that is horrendous unless you’re running a one shot headshot build

or unless you’re not even level 40 in which case you’re just using whatever you pick up

[tight remnant]

Really liking this, any ideas to make it better other than perfect min maxing

[plush pike]

ye i am

[wicked mica]

understandable, I have the same which is the only reason it came to mind

[soft crane]

The backpack

Change it to Striker.

[wicked mica]

memento swap

[wicked mica]

Or striker yea I misthought

then gloves to overdogs

[plush pike]

i am running 2 piece airaldi 2 piece has burg 4 piece hotshot

[soft crane]

And replace gloves with Overdogs if you have it. Why the gloves has blue core though.

[halcyon crater]

Look up the fresh lvl 40 guide in pinned msgs, it can help you out

[wicked mica]

you should get the chainkiller chest and assumedly airaldi backpack

[tight remnant]

Ah yeah cool just like the Liquid engineer for the bonus armour

[plush pike]

ive got the ninjabike messenger atm

[soft crane]

No dont.

[wicked mica]

Airaldi with vigilance I believe is better for this setup

[soft crane]

Anyway you're gonna need this sooner or later.
Level 40 Starter Guide

[plush pike]

i aint a super noob XD

i am just rusty

havent played in like a year

[subtle bluff]

The most overrated BP talent.

[soft crane]

Back to basics with Mr. Chow

[wicked mica]

I’m still wondering if every gear set has a matching outfit. I have a few and it makes me curious cause I don’t remember how I got them in the first place.

[plush pike]

i am still kinda annoyed that though my mother bought wlony i cant play the expansion cus of how the license works

[wicked mica]

like there’s one for Hunter’s Fury, Cavalier, Striker’s and Umbra Initiative for sure

[wicked mica]

after googling it it seems they were old season rewards, and now I’m upset because I missed out on some

[regal dock]

how do i optimize my refactor build? should i focus more on skill damage or repair skill?

[mint musk]

skilldamage since the talent in refactor does the repair feature

[regal dock]

okay

[odd perch]

Skill Damage on every piece w/ skill haste as mods or secondary after skill damage.

[plush pike]

so uh
the funny google dockie that you told me to read through
says that the ninjabike bag makes me miss out on a useful gear set bag perk
for hot shot not really

the hot shot bag perk only allows me to miss one head shot
yet my mmr that i use has the determined perk so i am not exactly missing head shots that often

[grizzled garnet]

you miss out on vigilance

[plush pike]

dont have it

[grizzled garnet]

hotshot is typically

4pc hotshot
airaldi backpack with vigilance
chainkiller chest

so with nbb you lose vigilance

[plush pike]

if i have eithe rof those

i dont

[grizzled garnet]

then its something to work towards

[plush pike]

well i have an airaldi chest with headhunter

[grizzled garnet]

it works

[plush pike]

yes

[grizzled garnet]

so you can go for a providence backpack with vigilance

[plush pike]

hold up

vigilance only works if you havent taken damage

[grizzled garnet]

indeed

[plush pike]

that isnt that great

[grizzled garnet]

it is

[plush pike]

not if your primarily solo

[grizzled garnet]

you make use of cover

[soft crane]

Just, git gud then?

[odd perch]

Also use decoy totem with hotshot it's extremely good because you shouldn't be taking damage when your one shotting enemies

[soft crane]

The entire point of full red core DPS build is kill or be killed.

[normal shadow]

Do I want CHD to Striker chest? Or is something like weapon handling better? Going for prototype.

[plush pike]

the funny jap opponents they added say somthing different

there tank is very rude

[soft crane]

CHC or CHD depending on your current CHC stat. If you have close to 60% then CHD.

Striker never wants Weapon Handling.

[odd perch]

Well noone is recommending build advice based off limited time enemies. And you can still one shot them

[normal shadow]

I'm thinking I'd rather have CHC on weapons than gear.

[halcyon crater]

Hotshot 4 pcs isn't really worth, so people usually swap gloves for Overdogs. But yes, vigi is very good

[plush pike]

well any opponent that has a helmet isnt a one shot

[odd perch]

Depends some weapons don't have CHC so if you gear doesn't and you are below 55% it's noticable

[halcyon crater]

Then you for sure want CHD

[grizzled garnet]

personally i dont run 4pc but some people may want to

[odd perch]

Determined?

[plush pike]

yes

[odd perch]

You aren't fully optimized yet?

[plush pike]

idk

[grizzled garnet]

helmets stop ohk

[grizzled garnet]

2 versions

with and without overdogs. skills and secondary weapon arent set in stone

[plush pike]

sigh yaaaaaay more grinding

[grizzled garnet]

the name of the game

[short bone]

does yellow core from technician specialization counts towards capacitor weapon damage?

[vernal wing]

It only checks total skill tier (but won’t go past 6)

[short bone]

ah alright thankyo

[exotic talon]

*three, theres also fox's prayer

especially if you run shroud and you arent fighting a hunter or something

[quiet wren]

apart from everything mentioned in the Lv409 starter guide, is there any armor piece or set that is important to keep and might not be updated in the document yet??

Cleaning stash and I have al lot of different gearsets (I was collecting everything dropped since I'm new) and now I need to clear space and start buildcrafting a bit

[hollow mantle]

Oh okey thx for info my friends say i was lucky bcs she drop on heroic open world story line quest from black tusk robot

[stone python]

Using TS build atm, should i reroll this to ChC?

[brittle drift]

Yes

[stone python]

🔥

[halcyon crater]

not really, but could be wise to have at least one of every named item saved if you have space

[stone python]

GR9 for TS build. Which talent should I go for?

[warm moss]

is striker still the meta?

[soft crane]

yes

[stone python]

Which talent should I go for TS/ GR9 build

on the LMG i mean

[summer flax]

i just finished maxing out my Tipping Scales recently. all red cores maxed out.

The best course of action would be to push to Expertise 30 now right?

[quiet wren]

by named item do you mean exotics or also high-end gearsets and guns?

[stone python]

same here

[vernal wing]

Frenzy but that mag is ridiculous

[summer flax]

same exact build i have. im trying to understand whats the point of proto typing when heroic is mad easy

[vernal wing]

Escalation

And speedrun retals

[summer flax]

fair enough.

[halcyon crater]

one of every exotic and one of every named item that you can see yourself using is good enough, but if you need the space most of them are easy to farm back

[summer flax]

Blue screen works so well. Sometimes i run it on my Striker set up and im doing millions of damage. Every time i tell myself to use the AR, i keep going back to the BS LMG.

with seasonal modifiers u can get around 340 rounds per mag

[stone python]

Was playing yesterday with this fella legendary missions, he literally was melting enemies like butter

pls rng give me some luck lol

[summer flax]

do u solo escalation or run in a group? cuz i have bad luck with team mates man

idk whats happening but this entire week my runs were filled with low SHD agents in retal and esca

i think we need some kinda entrance barrier in some of these high end modes

[quartz pasture]

Is core strength and investor good for escalation?

[halcyon sentinel]

good?

or is there other suggestion?

[onyx sage]

equalizer over TS chest

[obtuse crystal]

no not really strikers or maybe tipping scales is way better for it

[halcyon sentinel]

i plan to use this for escal. better use equalizer?

[obtuse crystal]

idk about investor havent looked at it

[lone wadi]

Yes cus shorter time to full stacks at a small cost a max damage

[hexed steppe]

Usually safe to clear gearset pieces that drop with skilltier since they are real easy to farm when needed.
Rigger, hardwire, eclipse, future initiative, exuro all easy to farm.

[halcyon sentinel]

well i guess i use that for everything then

[short bone]

I tried building core strength build with capacitor as my main weapon and maxed out yellow cores with the help of technician, I put the core strength chest piece on because It's really nice to have the other att. bonuses more (75% instead of 40%) and the playstyle for this is for uhh, i guess for utility support while having a bit damooge on the weapon

is there anything i can change to make it better

[hexed steppe]

Yeah add core strength glove and replace ninja with memento

[exotic talon]

or honestly just dont use it in pve

[quartz pasture]

Well I used bluescreen and od and did better than everyone else

I want to test core strength and investor in escalation

[shy willow]

Lemme stop you right there

If you wanna use it solo then that's your prerogative but don't bring it to groups I beg

[kind sluice]

what's the best build choice for Tier 5 LMG DPS build? I prefer Alejandro/pestilence. getting serious now

[buoyant perch]

It's trash for escalation

[hybrid pelican]

please this lol

[stone python]

Rng blessed me with three Red cores tipping scales

[vernal wing]

It’s about the same damage as running a skill damage mortar build

[small wharf]

Question : If I upgrade a piece of gear to proto that as its stats not fully optimized before the upgrade, will the stats be buff to the equivalent of a normal gear god roll + the one random stat that will get beyond max roll ? or do I will get 1 proto stat and the other stays a trash roll?

sry for my english xD

[vernal wing]

Proto minimum is base maximum

[small wharf]

cool thank you

[vernal wing]

So red core will always have 15.1% weapon damage

[small wharf]

[lone wadi]

Yes

Oops sonemone alr answered

[earnest sundial]

I got the turmoil kneepads can I use it with a striker build ?

[solar sable]

can? yes
should? fk no

[gentle lichen]

omg i discovered an insane synergy for paradox

[astral sluice]

Well depends on what you are using it for

[gentle lichen]

it's with lucky shot
just keep missing and you'll generate ammo lmfao

[earnest sundial]

Trying to make a solo build

[astral sluice]

If its just a general build for everything open world then you could use it, but if your doing stuff like legendarys, incursion, raids, and escal then you will want to look into other pieces of gear

With it splitting the damage you do between two enemies makes it not ideal for those tankier enemies in harder content as if you get rushed you want all the damage on the enemy pushing you

[tawdry raven]

is tipping scales chest bad? was looking at ikias build and surprised he didnt use it

[astral sluice]

I don't think it is bad, but I believe the equalizer gives you more value

[broken pewter]

i dont like shooting my gun when playing future iniative, so is there any good talent i should use on my backpack besides oppurtunistic?

[astral sluice]

Id swap the bag out then for a future initiative and get a chestpiece the talent that boosts damage when recently healed to buff your dps's damage

[solar sable]

wrong, the FI bag is not recommended

[broken pewter]

i was thinking about using a alps summit backpack because of the extra repair skills

just dont know which talent would fit best

i dont like shooting enemies when playing FI, only when playing refactor

[solar sable]

your role as a Support is to apply debuffs and AMPs for your teammates, it's the whole purpose of Opp* bag and I don't think there's a real replacement for it

[astral sluice]

I can't think of any talents off the top of my head for backpack that is why I would say go for the chest talent instead

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, fi is all about team buff and npc debuff

[astral sluice]

But they are right if you want it to be optimal you should play with the opportunistic

[subtle bluff]

FI talent provides the most healing by itself. Yes the BP helps give more but it's support build a not a just a healer.

[hexed steppe]

Opp+scorpio+survivalist is kinda an unbeatable combo for buffing

[solar sable]

even better when you can proc Sledge on a tanky enemy/boss

by the time you can proc Sledge, the enemy is dead already 😂

[broken pewter]

what about safeguard talent?

[merry flax]

Hi !

For now, this is the Stricker build i'm running with... There is a lot of room to improve it...
The Chest got a HSD instead of CHC and i know overall i should aim for an Equalizer

But i wonder more about the gloves... Honestly, on highend content i feel like it is kinda difficult to make the most of it, too many targets, turets, drones, etc to prioritize foes and be effective... I heard about Memento, but same, on highend i don't feel like running everywhere to loot the buffs...

I've seen some running 4 Strikers / Equalizer / Turmoil...

Also, the survaving is a kinda hard as full glasscanon build, du to absolute no self sustain...
Tipping seems more balance, since the only cons, is you have to as possible aim for headshot ?

So i'm a bit confuse, what do you think about all that ?

[solar sable]

you don't need more heals

[broken pewter]

companion gives the same buff as oppurtunistic

[solar sable]

one chem charge can heal them easily

but it requires to be stuck within 5m of the ally, not suitable

[broken pewter]

i went thru all the talents and yeah theres noting that fits like opp

[rain fox]

When Im not using overdogs I take the foxes prayer kneepads, or swap to a ceska piece, but I have a nice proto Groupon masks I use also I'm doing high tier escalation no problem

[subtle bluff]

To yourself..

[lone wadi]

Not the same buff because oppo is increase damage from all sources

[solar sable]

Overdogs don't force you into targeting anything, that's wrong to think of. And Turmoil is silly, dump it.

Even at 60% Overdogs uptime you still will do more dmg

Why Headshot DMG? TS just asks the player to be on 60% CHC as it provides the necessary CHD.

I think that, if you struggle to survive, you have to improve your gameplay. You can't just face tank enemies, you have to learn how to use cover and your surroundings to become unbeatable: "The best defense is a great offense"

[subtle bluff]

If you watch that showcase you can see I am not targeting for overdogs ever.

I am just shooting.

[broken pewter]

perfect opp is better than running alps summit backpack with normal opp?

[rain fox]

Ye Mr chow knows the score my most used build right there

[subtle bluff]

Read the guide above.

[broken pewter]

i did, thats the build i have, was just asking

[rain fox]

If your struggling with that build it's not the build you need to improve your play style

[broken pewter]

one question that has nothing with this, whats the max/cap skill haste?

[solar sable]

there's no hard-cap afaik

[subtle bluff]

Also in the guide..

[onyx sage]

there is no cap, it's just really little in value if you have too much

[broken pewter]

i heard someone saying it was 186%

[solar sable]

ask them for proof

[rain fox]

@broken pewter if there was a cap you would see by looking at your coold own timers they should go down the more skill haste you add

[subtle bluff]

Who? Because funny enough when you OC it passes that without having any haste.

[broken pewter]

it might be a lie

for such high follows wouldnt that make the healing foam basicly have perma stacks

[rain fox]

Your only capped by how many skill haste rolls you can get wich is about 8 x12 without proto

[merry flax]

"Why Headshot DMG?"

Just because i haven't found better already 😄

Thank you for your detailed answer

And trust me, i'm not that bad, just that the slightest mistake can turn me as dead meat, and i don't want to risk to be a liability during "legendary" or "high level escalation"

I just did a lvl3 for the first time yesterday, i did my part, but i started to feel a bit "fragile"

And since i'm only expertise 8, for now i can only count on loot to get some decent proto...

[rain fox]

I used to get shredded then I started using the decoy and I'm doing alot better now as a dps player

[solar sable]

Take a look at the Lvl40 Starters Guide TL;DR section. That's the recommended steps to take. Also, before you go read it, Expertise isn't a necessity. It's a nice extra

[subtle bluff]

Follow the guide most of your questions are answered already in there.

[solar sable]

bruh I keep tapping both hyperlinks

[rain fox]

Would the agitator increase threat on the decoy or just the player

[onyx sage]

just the player

[rain fox]

Oh OK thanks

[solar sable]

Another thing, headshot dmg by itself isn't a great stat in DPS setups because you'd be sacrificing CHC/CHD which is far more important

The only survivability I see viable in Escalations is having an FI player in the group

[rain fox]

We don't run healers 80% of the time just decoy and good positioning

[solar sable]

Your goal as a DPS in Escalations is... dealing as much DMG as possible, your Healer takes care of keeping you alive and rez you when you get downed

[rain fox]

And if on over tier 5 use technician and a sniper tureet instead put it on the floor by your feet so your immune to shock

[broken pewter]

yeah i swapped for alps summit

[merry flax]

That TLDR is basically a list of what i already do 😄

My library is even almost complete already

I still miss a lot of blueprint, but let's be honest, there are so much, i won't cover in days what it tooks years for some veterans players...

Right now, i'm just searching for ways to improve

And for the last part... i don' have any experience buddies to play with, i started to play few weeks ago, because the game was on sales on steam, so i play mostly solo or i use matchmaking, and this is far from a perfect experience

[rain fox]

@merry flax retaliation is my best way to farm bps and I met most of the guys I play with by playing raids you will come across some good people as you play

[merry flax]

I didn't play in those contents so far... i didn't want to take the risk to be a pain in the a** for the others players, i wanted to make sur to get at least one proper build before
And this is also why i'm still here asking for advise

[rain fox]

No you won't be a pain people will help you and teach you how to play as you can now get all the rare stuff from retaliation so failing isn't a big deal

[keen plank]

How would the classic m60 with perfect strained compete with measured if im using tipping scales? In escalation not general play btw

The future m60 btw lol

[rain fox]

Frenzy is the best with m60 on tipping I've tested allready

Switched to mk46 once I proto it but they perform similar

[keen plank]

Frenzy is probably BIS right now but I'm not a fan tbh. But it's just a personal preference because I reload everytime before the talent kicks in lol

A me problem but its good nonetheless

[smoky latch]

Technically M60 is the better choice for TS because it builds up stacks over time (slow RoF preferred)

Ammo preservation, making the most of it

[viscid plaza]

I see no problem with 1 or 2 armor cores in open world

[gentle lichen]

wassup

[viscid plaza]

On conflict right now

[gentle lichen]

yeah im rouxls lol

[subtle bluff]

Frenzy is not BiS overall only situational.

[subtle bluff]

Um. K?

[viscid plaza]

staying in queue lol

[gentle lichen]

with my stack just trying to do the 100 conflict levels cause 4m xp per game is crazy

[quiet wren]

is there any use for exotics I don´t want? meaning, can they be rerolled or is it better to dismantle or donate them?

[gentle lichen]

dismantle

[wicked ravine]

get them exotic shards
you need a bunch of them

[viscid plaza]

Yeah a much better watch farm than NBA

[gentle lichen]

you can have a copy of each exotic but more than one is often redundant

[viscid plaza]

Time for me to get rolled lmao

[gentle lichen]

fun too

[viscid plaza]

I think its good practical advice, since most players seeking a guide will either be new, inexperienced or are somewhat struggling.

[subtle bluff]

It's a showcase of what striker can do. Not a guide.

Blue cores only help to take a few more shots. But really OSP is what's gonna keep you from falling down.

But also struggling to understand that div2 is closer in gameplay to a shooter than a rpg. Cover/LoS is important.

[viscid plaza]

gg, can't trust randoms to watch my side, back or front

[keen plank]

Decoys are a godsend. Throw those bad boys at the ai when they corner you and they go berserk on them lol

[subtle bluff]

Positioning is important.

[viscid plaza]

This is fair enough, but players who play daily and have no issue with any content aren't going to benefit that much from a showcase (you know this), so its really to help new or struggling players. I think building up to 6 red can be more helpful, its hard for players already struggling to use cover and position better when any mistake is going to remove all of their armor.

[hazy steeple]

Decoys this Season with Overcharge on command have basically ruined them for me.
Gonna miss when this Season is over.

[subtle bluff]

Again it's just a showcase of what a Meta can do.

[viscid plaza]

I think its super valuable

[broken pewter]

is it possible to get birdies in 2026??

[subtle bluff]

It's showcasing a lot of things at once. When and how skills are used, simple HE weapons are very powerful and AoK is great.

[subtle bluff]

Yes

[broken pewter]

how do i get it?? exotic caches?

i heard about kelso manhunt

[gentle lichen]

either manhunt or the bp from btsu team 9 retaliation kill squad

[viscid plaza]

Yeah, I'm not trying to say anything opposing what you're doing by posting the showcase, I'm just thinking for new players that might try this style of gameplay, struggle right away and feel like its not worth it.

[subtle bluff]

It's just showing the high limits of decent gameplay but high knowledge.

[broken pewter]

what's the backpack talent cooldown

[subtle bluff]

Same here but showing off Memento strength. Showing knowledge.

[broken pewter]

impossible

[subtle bluff]

Go read it in the Gearsheet

[broken pewter]

the stats are boosted, are you sure about this???

[viscid plaza]

@gentle lichen My build is well setup to deal with stingers and full dps but I still struggle with mortar and sticky players, you have any advice? I try to hold my EMP for those players but it feels like they always get their stagger off and win the 1v1 from there

[subtle bluff]

Birdie is only used for very quick Rez everything else is very minor to that.

[broken pewter]

so u telling me that 80% revive speed and 45% hive effeciency is permanent?

but the hive effeciency boosts the healing on the hive right

[subtle bluff]

Plz stop making us repeat ourselves.

[broken pewter]

okok i got it

i finally got what i need to mix into my FI, thanks

[subtle bluff]

The build itself is simple the gameplay is a very different story.

[viscid plaza]

Conventionally its more of a quick swap, harder for FI to quickswap as the BTSU gloves are basically stapled on the build and in the off slot

[subtle bluff]

The difference from a healer vs a good support is big.

If you're having to Rez players all the time there is an issue.

[smoky latch]

People wanting to be healers so badly now is just to get ez access to high tier Escalations when in reality they're not ready for it at all. And you notice that

[gentle lichen]

yeah sticky i think you gotta go haz to counter and mortar feels like just who can pull off mortar better with core but honestly don't engage mortar until you break it behind a wall with jammer

[viscid plaza]

ur exactly right I need a haz to swap into when I'm facing sticky's and 4 stack stingers. It can be overbearing to the point the booster is stopping me from just bleeding out from status, but not helping me win fights. Thank you for that

[broken pewter]

not my case, just doing it for fun because i never did a healer build, i dont even play escalation

[smoky latch]

I didn't mean you in particular. It's a general trend

[normal shadow]

It's really not that easy. Even in tier 6 you have to be very quick, let alone higher tiers.

Honestly I can't understand how on earth people have the capability to hotswap BTSU gloves and Birdie's in the middle of a firefight.

[lone wadi]

He’s talking about easy as in getting your foot thru the door into escalation by playing healer , not how easy healing is

in the end hot swapping is all muscle memory and you really don’t lose that much if you just keep birdies on

Can just swap btsu in between encounters

[hybrid pelican]

You mostly keep birdies on and just hotswap every few minutes to btsu

[normal shadow]

Thing is if you don't know what you're doing you're wiping the whole team.

[viscid plaza]

The players have to be kind of bad to fully rely on the heal

[lone wadi]

which is exactly what new players who play healer r doing

[smoky latch]

Guess how I lost 270 tokens roughly from three T10 mm lobbies 😅

[hybrid pelican]

Good healers also are on that sweet dreams tech:)

[normal shadow]

Inexperienced, not necessarily bad.

[lone wadi]

sweet dreams is nice but not needed

Rather healer be on scorp and dps sweet dreams

[normal shadow]

Oof. You got given the short end of the stick.

And I'm aware I made you lose a couple of those tokens, so sorry.

[hybrid pelican]

To each their own - i prefer scorpio as my secondary for dps

[lone wadi]

that’s true

I just think if you’re not doing anything in between chems you just scorp enemies while dps is better using their main weapons

[smoky latch]

It's not really DPS, you prime the NPCs for your teammates and get occasional CC

[hybrid pelican]

I meant as a dps player, I use a scorpio as my secondary vs sweet dreams

[smoky latch]

Yes same. Depends on the mission tho

You still prime the NPCs however

[hybrid pelican]

ofc

[normal shadow]

I'd consider Lexington as a secondary for healer, or Lefty. Scorpio being the primary.

[lone wadi]

Lexington is useless for healer

there’s no reason to not use something with perf sledgehammer + scorp / sweet dreams

[obtuse shoal]

Whoever has maxed out gear mods hope your game save is deleted from the cloud

Jk jk….

[subtle bluff]

My only good luck with gear is mods... 12 of CHC CHD and HSD.

[lone wadi]

i have 1 chd mod

[viscid plaza]

I'm only watch 2800 and I have 3 CHC and 3 CHD, I'm sorry for ur luck

[lone wadi]

rip im almost shd 5k now

granted i havent been actively farming

[solar sable]

my xbox gear mods come from a glitch in the crafting station 🤣

I couldn't care less, I made at least 6 of each

[viscid plaza]

Feel like that forces all your rolls to be CHD

[normal shadow]

Escalation tiers five up, Striker build: should Overdogs be replaced by a Ceska piece or Contractor's?

[halcyon sentinel]

do you guys use RoF Mag Mod Or Increase Ammo mod in LMG? for TS and other?

[normal shadow]

A big ammo bag, yeah, but not otherwise.

[solar sable]

not necessarily, it's good to have them in some encounters

if you have Proto Hollow Man then yes, switch them to Ceska

[normal shadow]

Not yet proto, but I do have a good Hollow Man.

[stone python]

stats with Protoscales gear

idk if its accurate or nah

[halcyon sentinel]

So 50 mag > rof?

[hazy steeple]

Weapon modding is pretty much always the same for red crit DPS setups.
"all crit chance mods, and the biggest mag you can get". AR/LMG/SMG inclusive.
You want those CHD rolls on your attributes, since you get more from them than mods.

Proto added to existing gear can complicate things, my LMG Striker setup is overcapped on crit pretty hard with mods and no way to remove it, but ya know, suffering from success and all that.

[normal shadow]

I mean Riven's said it better than I could've.

[hazy steeple]

That's why they pay me the big bucks.

[lone wadi]

Depends on lmg

[wicked ravine]

what is the best way to get 50+ CHC and the highest CHD?

[smoky latch]

Depends on your gear. Use gear mods/weapon mods to adjust #s

[wicked ravine]

what is the best way to farm max gear mods?

I keep getting 5% CHC ones and I want to cry

[smoky latch]

Don't farm max gear mods or you lose your sanity. They drop over time mostly in heroic and legendary content. You can set your TL to gear mods tho and keep farming, see what drops

You could speed up the process by repeatedly farming Summit floor 10 on legendary if you are ready for that

But ultimately max gear mods are really rare

[wicked ravine]

Ive been on heroic TC since I came back 💀
that is what I was afraid of

what would be a good build for solo legendary missions?

[smoky latch]

Keep in mind: 5% CHC is good. Don't go by the bar thinking "Omg it's not full I cri". Same with 11% CHD for instance

People often have misconceptions about that

[heady terrace]

whats good for a MG5 with my dps striker build?

[solar sable]

CHC for LMGs always

[heady terrace]

bet

[wicked ravine]

that makes sense
but I feel im stuck and cant make any better ratio
in at 50CHC / 84CHD

all my CHC mods are 5.6, 5.8
so better then I though but I did watch a build video and the dude was at like 130~ CHD
no Idead how he got there

[smoky latch]

That means you probably need better rolled gear

Also IDK what kinda build you run

[wicked ravine]

sorry
heartbreaker

[smoky latch]

Oof

[wicked ravine]

that does not sound good

[obtuse shoal]

Would In-Sync talen be considered good?? I mean considering how I play the game it sounds pretty damn good to me.

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HeLeb8_c6w6DY-0qwVuKUfaCjp27f9wrv0_H6g2Ah98/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.96rmu8ogf3lt
I'll drop you this, have a read and see the build suggestions that are better suited for HB

[smoky latch]

Can be a useful talent, yes. Depends on your build ofc

[old gale]

Hey everyone so I am looking for a DPS build for Countdown Heroic, one that is good for both solo and group play, if anyone got any ideas please send me your thoughts, images or descriptions of the build so I know what I am looking for please

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0
This guide can be found in the spreadsheet pinned in this channel

For heroic CD I'd suggest Striker's chest. If you play right you'll be able to keep up the stacks for every encounter

But honestly, if you ask for a build for Countdown you might not be ready for it and should rather play challenging CD

[old gale]

The thing is I I have a build and I can hold my own with it (it’s a striker build with coyote mask) the thing is I am just trying to refine since new content, new gear, you know what I mean

[smoky latch]

Yeah you are better off in challenging CD I would say

The difference in loot quality is minimal anyway

[ocean wyvern]

would the Good Times M60 pair well with TS?

[smoky latch]

For high sustained damage I think so

[ocean wyvern]

Sweet, I've been playing around with TS since I got a few proto pieces

Kinda curious to see how that new M60 with P.Strained will play

[smoky latch]

New M60?

[wicked ravine]

thank you

[smoky latch]

Oh wait I think I read it'll be part of another classified assignment or something?

[ocean wyvern]

Yeah, it's coming out on Tuesday iirc

[smoky latch]

Could work, yeah

Strained is better on LMGs than ARs anyway

M60 has a slow RoF which means a high uptime with it

Finally a logical choice and not another WTF named item

[ocean wyvern]

yeah, the named ACR made me scratch my head a little bit

[smoky latch]

No that actually works

Not ideal but still working

I was more thinking of old named items

[ocean wyvern]

it works, but I think the G36 that's the Caretaker would've been better for Perfect Ranger, and the ACR getting perfect killer

[smoky latch]

I actually use the Archivist on my TS build atm

Really good for Retaliations

[ocean wyvern]

I might look into that

[smoky latch]

Slow firing, accurate long range AR - ACR-E archetype.
Good for TS stacks and long range fights, pairs well with a LMG

And the talent comes in really handy for that

[smoky latch]

G36 archetype too inaccurate for long range

[short verge]

cant get enough of bittersweet right now, that blue i give to my bros is like a dopamine hit as they say

[exotic talon]

im so disappointed the archivist isnt the rifle acr

[short verge]

anyone running with this year 8 future initiative loadout from the spreadhseet: ~~~

could i just run hana-u or brazos instead of The Setup (with the same attributes and talent) to lean in more into the skill haste

[solar sable]

alps or uzina preferably

also, it says unavailable image

[short verge]

fr?

oh sorrylemme just post it here

its from this one: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11__a0xEKRKX22zNtLFwQM6P44oIq_h6g07a47Fd0X2M/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.am5atfliuvwx

[solar sable]

yeah, alps or uzina

either way if you go Uzina, The Setup is technically unbeatable

[short verge]

see im trying to get chem launcher cooldown as low as possible, otherwise copying almost exact loadout

[smoky latch]

SH mods should be good enough

[teal ibex]

just the guy i need.

[solar sable]

lol

[teal ibex]

so i made an build with gr9. 3 different ones tbh.
running gunner.
at some point the RoF triggers when gr9 becomes a complete mingun(love it lol)
i tryed TS/striker/OD. all same setup with tinkerer as mask. (due OD)
TS: about12mil
striker 27mil
OD about 17.

i get it that striker boosts. but whats making this difference so huge?

plus aside gr9 sadist. what else of talent could i use? btw dont like how measured works

[teal ibex]

if u can answer its fine as well haha

[weak quail]

Striker with its armor piece can be super strong but outside of escalation i don’t think you can consistently get that many stacks. So there is that

[vernal wing]

Striker is an amp (multiplier)
Overdogs is an amp (multiplier)
TS is Weapon Damage (additive)
You can easily maintain 100 stacks striker with Equalizer and Overdogs for easy content (heroic and lower)
Usually go for 200 striker anywhere there is large enough health pools to build the stacks on.

[solar sable]

TS is CHD*

[subtle bluff]

the numbers mag dmg or DPS?

also builds matter..

[jade sphinx]

Scammer

[raven rose]

anybody got an marksman rifle build thats not to hard to make for a returning player i barely have any exotics

[solar sable]

this but with 4pc Hotshot instead of Overdogs

@raven rose ☝️

[raven rose]

works with marksman rifles ?

[solar sable]

it's for MMRs...

[upper yew]

I cannot change more than one thing on a gear right ? so if I change the talent of a chestpiece every other stat is locked

[solar sable]

yes

[raven rose]

Wrd

[honest shore]

Does the echo outweigh the higher stats on the quantum?

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

[merry flax]

Hi ! It's me again !
So i main a "dps" striker build and wonder if that refractor would be ok to "sup" in high content lihe escalation ? (up to T4-5 max for now) ?

[upper yew]

one more question

[solar sable]

refactor wont do great past T4

[upper yew]

if I optimize a sub-stat first, do I lose my ability to recalibrate the other sub-stat ?

[solar sable]

nope

[solar sable]

I suggest taking a look at this:
#td2-build-advice message

[merry flax]

But as a full Glasscanon Stricker with less than 800k armor... Trust me, in T4, without a supp, i start spending more time dodging bullets than doing my job and kill foes... So sometimes, i wonder when the occasion comes there is no supp in the grp if it wouldn't be better just to switch, even if that is not the best

[upper yew]

so optimizing is fine but the moment I recalibrate anything about the gear I cannot do anything to it ? except optimizing

[solar sable]

basically

[solar sable]

that's where positioning comes in handy for all red dps

[solar sable]

you can recalibrate the same slot infinite times btw

[upper yew]

is there not an option to craft petrov defense gloves ? I cannot see the brand neither on my unlocks and in the locked ones and its only the gloves

yeah I have checked for the 5th time there are no petrov glove crafting option but every other piece of petrov can be crafted

am I going insane ?

[merry flax]

Of course but that doesn't do everything... Last run, my first T4 (Museum), i did like 600m while the first one top 2000m, and i really struggled surviving (i did use my own hive to res the others) so i kinda saved the run and did my part but if i feel like if i was more efficient as a DPS it could had been smoother
And without a supp in the grp, i have to be so much more carefull that i can't dps properly

[upper yew]

ok just checked the viki it tell me to find the blueprint in reconstructed caches, where do I find that cache other than descent ? (that gamemode is buns)

[ocean wyvern]

crafting bench for SHD watches

[smoky latch]

Farm Retaliations and craft those caches with those materials you can earn there (you can transform materials into broken SHD watches)

[subtle bluff]

Having extra armor doesn't help at higher tier or in general due to them just doing more to you anyways.
Positioning and Prioritizing target just becomes the thing.

[shy willow]

Up to tier 5 you don't really need a support

In higher tiers with hot foot and where anchor is more common then they become important

[merry flax]

I just ran a T5 museum, but i should more say i've been carried all the way... It was way smoother than the T4 i did before but i still am far far away behind the rest of the grp in terms of DPS... But even if i try to do my best, i guess that being "just SHD450" with "just normal stuff", while the rest is way more than 1000 and already full Proto, will always have some limitations...

[vernal wing]

If you want a support build, you want Future Initiative with Birdie’s Quick fix or BTSU Datagloves.

The only other healer even remotely viable in high escalation is Measured Assembly and most people would kick you for running it

[merry flax]

Oh dear... And even if it is a bit toxic, it is quiet easy to understand why when we compare the 2 Sets... By reading the desciptions, one feels quite simple to play and pretty efficient and the other one could have been named MEH...😅

[shy willow]

It's not like measured assembly is bad it's just WAY more niche than FI

In situations where you're getting bombed with skill proxies like liberty island is can be very good

[vapid mantle]

ive been wondering where to improve from here

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HeLeb8_c6w6DY-0qwVuKUfaCjp27f9wrv0_H6g2Ah98/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.96rmu8ogf3lt

[lime jackal]

can anyone on PC help me out with a dps build please? only recently got lvl 40

[vapid mantle]

you do solo?

[lime jackal]

so far ive mostly played solo

[vapid mantle]

i heard stryker is great but im loving this heartbreaker im building

[shadow wigeon]

easy step 1 is a new mask
Ceska if you're lacking on crit chance, or else Sokolov/Fenrir depening on which primary you use more

[lime jackal]

fair fair