td2-build-advice

[lament reef]

something that stacks fast

acs-12 is usually recommended, personally i have liked using a SMG recently

[soft crane]

Rock N Roll, named AA-12 with 50% more magazine.

[willow sigil]

i like using an smg

[hazy steeple]

smg-9 w/ either Unwavering or Back+Forth is a pretty good meta option right now for a strikers backup.

[barren tartan]

And best spec?

[hazy steeple]

Gunner has Armour on Kill and the Banshee Pulse, the latter is amazing for Striker.

especially this Season, where you can throw on the Utility Active Modifier and get the cooldown to basically nothing.

[versed summit]

Really only useful for chest striker.

A brazen or back and forth ACS is way better for non chest strikers

[barren tartan]

I had named aa12 and i sold it few days ago

[hazy steeple]

Minor point, but it's best to use the ingame names for guns.
Not everyone will know the IRL versions.

[barren tartan]

I dont know ingame names

I only know real life names lol

[hazy steeple]

You'll get the hang of it over time.
otherwise you get the weird situation of people using fake gun names from other games in div2.
Like how I called it the Kross Vertex for like 2 years.

[proud wigeon]

Hello agents I’ve just reached 30 in exp and was thinking to upgrade all my striker to prototype .. but recently seeing that there is problem with attributes is it still recommended to upgrade ? Or wait ?

[analog mural]

sure if u want extra stats, just dont upgrade ur skill gear

[proud wigeon]

I’ve got ya I just came to pc from Xbox after grinding and maxing my stuff so I’m a bit hesitant ..

Want it to put me in best place I can be in dps wise

[calm summit]

Can anyone tell me what weap is this whats the name?

[proud wigeon]

Dang ..

[solar sable]

Ravenous, obtainable as an item from the Iron Horse raid crate and the crafting blueprint from Black Tusk Retaliations

[calm summit]

Oh alright. Its riffle. Thanks.

[clear maple]

fml 💀

[solar sable]

unicorn habs?

[clear maple]

trying

[hazy steeple]

that Talent is just good comedic timing, you gotta admit.

[strong cave]

salt in the wound

ive got a pair of gloves lying around here somewhere... cant find them. might be on my other pve char

honestly even with unicorns you likely wont even use them. still trying to find a use in my habs bag other than buddy/lucy DH

[hazy steeple]

I finally got my 3 lengmo double crit pieces from farming BT Retals.
Now I just need to figure out if I'm going to actually use a Pesti build.

[strong cave]

I personally use Lengmo mask / Holster / Backbone

[hazy steeple]

None are the named items, I think it's a mask/holster/knees, but might be gloves instead of knees.

I'm going to assume that Overdogs enter into the equation.

[strong cave]

mask pretty sure you can craft

wait nvm it says looted damn. coulda swore i crafted that

[hazy steeple]

I'm 7 years into div2, I need a goal to farm.

[magic pilot]

Farm yellow system corrupt

[strong cave]

i run this setup, altho id be argued on fox's knees

[hazy steeple]

I genuinely have like 30 pieces of Sys Corr from legacy caches over the years.

I may even be at the pre-buff cap for their mats.

[magic pilot]

Pgc+ fox

[strong cave]

can easily swap my ceska to glass and do fox's. i mainly play oblit bc i dislike with glass the damage you take

can confirm yes you can craft the lengmo mask

[hazy steeple]

I need to find more builds to use Equa on, beyond the 3pc or strikers combos.
that echo prototype roll was

[strong cave]

im still farming for all red @magic pilot just because i can

that 1 goddamn core still eludes me...

will swap to glass the moment I get that final red corr on my blue corr bag

hoping I made the joke correctly
just like the 1 failed core on my build, I too failed at typing my own follow up joke

[kindred mango]

Ahhh. I’m missing holster with HSD roll, and 2-3 skill damage roll

I can do all red/blue crit I think

[boreal widget]

I forgot but can we change attributes of red weapons?

[onyx sage]

by reconfiguring

[boreal widget]

Can't find it in reconfi

[kindred mango]

Tinker menu M on pc

Unless you’re talking exotic then it’s full reroll by reconfiguring

[boreal widget]

No I mean I can't find the exotic reconfig blueprint

[kindred mango]

It’s a different section if you’re looking at the crafting blueprints

[boreal widget]

not here?

[magic pilot]

I have a full blue set

[boreal widget]

ye i crafted shroud

but cant find the reconfig bp

[onyx sage]

those are the ones you can buy, not the ones you have. go to the crafting table for that

and buy all the ones that are being sold

[kindred mango]

Scroll to the very bottom

Reconfigure section with the compass/recycle symbol

[strong cave]

Same

[strong cave]

It's a bug currently. Still not fixed yet. Crafting shroud for some reason doesn't also allow Inaya to have the reconfigure

Those who played during the season shroud was introduced have the reconfigure blueprint. Not an intended design. Was exclusive to the reward track

[wind estuary]

anyone know why i would have more clusters mines while using Core Strength set vs Hard Wired. 15 clusters vs 10 clusters. Skill efficiency shouldnt add more charges to skill should it

Core Strength is with Skill Tier core

[noble pelican]

Weird, I just crafted it yesterday (because targeted loot preffered to give me 3x Mantis..) and after re-logging, Shroud's BP was sitting at Inaya's.

[magic pilot]

I just want yellow for oxi

[magic pilot]

It's possible skill efficiency includes cluster mine amount, would you mind taking screenshots for me?

[nimble trench]

Any recommended gear sets besides hotshot for a rifle/mmr build that doesn’t build completely around headshots, aim isn’t that good but like the play style

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?usp=drivesdk
this but with Rifles

[wind estuary]

oh nvm, the modding screen is so busted lmao. its showing that it would add more mines and make it 16 when it reality its only making it 10.

friend was telling me it showed him 15 but i assume thats what he was talking about

[solar sable]

so when the +x is next to the amount of seekers/charges of a skill, it indicates it has already applied that to the total amount

[noble pelican]

What part of Hotshot do you enjoy, that isn't headshots?

Any and all dps focused builds will still want to aim for heads where possible. If you enjoy the headshot-specific playstyle, but you don't want to hit headshots all the time, I'd suggest just going with a headshot focused build but running "Determined" on something like "The Viginian", or the normal "1886".

You start with a headshot, but can mix in bodyshots due to the perk converting them into headshots still.

[wind estuary]

yeah but to the left that its showing 16 with +6 next to it, it really doesnt make any sense

like this is not right

[solar sable]

that +6 is already added
you have 10+6 seekers

[wind estuary]

when you go here it shows the real number

or does the mod screen show more? this is very confusing

[solar sable]

it shows the value without Tiers

[wind estuary]

but why

[nimble trench]

I like the slower firing guns. So strikers or similar doesn’t really work but I’m very inconsistent with headshots

[boreal widget]

💔💔💔

[solar sable]

just follow this, can't be explained better

[noble pelican]

You wouldn't be at 3,5m damage and 10 mines at T1; Base is 4 mines.

[wind estuary]

that doesnt make any sense, the values dont change unless you mouse over a mod

[solar sable]

I haven't used seekers ever, thx tho

[wind estuary]

tbh all the stat pages when it comes to abilities are really busted

and incomplete, you cant see your skill haste % or damage % anywhere

[solar sable]

Stats page in the Inventory

[wind estuary]

it is not there

[magic pilot]

I would just throw the seekers in the range to compare

[wind estuary]

wait sorry. skill haste is there

but damage % is not

[noble pelican]

That's fine; Determined effectively works as a "every second shot can be a bodyshot, without breaking apart your bonuses" and the 1886 is a Rifle, not a Sniper; You can even still run a shield if you need some breathing room to line up shots.

[nimble trench]

Is there a similar gun to the 1886 but I can put a scope on it

[noble pelican]

Baker's Dozen would be the next-best option iirc.

[magic pilot]

Just run an mmr at that point

[long dove]

guys how do i build global modifiers?

[noble pelican]

You get the first set from the journal, afterwards the shop is to the right of the specialization NPC in the whitehouse.

Or do you mean what setup to use?

[long dove]

both actually im heading there cuz i forgot about them what setup i can use with striker?

[noble pelican]

Pretty sure most people use something like this, with the convert being optional if you prefer handling/mag size instead.

[long dove]

thank you this is what im looking for

[hazy steeple]

I threw that exact setup on a Utility Active Modifier setup for my strikers, and was able to basically spam the decoy+banshee.
I almost felt like I was hacking.

[noble pelican]

Alternatively, this gives a tiny bit less headshot% and no skill%, but more armor.

[long dove]

how do i get more points to purchase modifiers?

[timber heath]

what will happen if i make a prototype from item that not rolled maxed out?

[long dove]

seems better but this (season?) feels like more towards skills like drones n turrets

[noble pelican]

Only reason i run Blackout is Countdown; Allows you to easily kill hunters alone by proccing Frenzy on the Mk46 and activating it during the reload.

[noble pelican]

You can get a ton out of it for skill builds, or especially the healing one - but pure skill builds really don't catch up with something like Striker, even including these buffs.

Despite the crapton of "X million armor, T6, META CS BUILD" stuff on YouTube.
It's pretty much just trading (a huge amount of) damage for versatility that you can't really utilize.

[grim bluff]

11 second overcharge and instant cool down reset is great for skills, but it's just a quick boost rather than consistency. Refactor drone turret is still really comfortable on basic heroic stuff at least

[long dove]

yeah i got you but its weird been playing a week ago or so and all i got are 1200 points to spend so im missing nullify modifer

i cant buy more and the game doesn't say how to get more

[grim bluff]

Have you finished your season journey up to 8? That gets you most of them

[noble pelican]

Refactor is really useful in higher stuff as well; But you wouldn't play it "for the damage".

[grim bluff]

The rest are from scouts

[long dove]

no never tracked that was doing main quests and some countdown farm for gear

[grim bluff]

That'd be why you don't have enough, you get it per item on the journey list. Go finish it up

[long dove]

yeah saw it thanks

[hazy steeple]

You don't need to actually claim the Journeys to get them btw, just do the objective.
The only ones you actually need to claim to unlock them all and your Modifiers, are I think 3, and 6.

[grim bluff]

You can get another 700 from the first two scout missions

[long dove]

yeah im almost done with 1 and completed 3 but never unlocked 2 lol

[summer totem]

Does the salvo's rate of fire attribute applies only to skill?

[strong cave]

No. It applies to anything that shoots

[summer totem]

Oh neat so technically its 10% fire rate including the set talent then?

[viral field]

I'll give it a try

[glacial patio]

Does Div2 have any issues undserstanding super high RPM? Ive got 1658 rpm- will stacking mechanics like striker understand and successfully react to RPM that high?

[frozen hull]

Is there a sticky anywhere here with the combinations ?

[hazy steeple]

Not yet, but there's a calculator someone has made to visualise the combos.

[frozen hull]

Thank you

[onyx sage]

i don't know what the threshold is but there is a thing as too much rpm, the hitreg will not register all hits

[glacial patio]

Has this RPM threshold been experimented with to identify it?

[onyx sage]

i think we encountered it during the very first iteration of the ouroboros with striker, they had to nerf it on release to not run into it

it was 2000 rpm at least

[glacial patio]

Ah ok so then at least we know ubisoft knows at least theres no calculation problem with ouroboros and the 15%. Maybe salvo would be unnecessary then in that possible build

[rich cargo]

Is the 30% weapon damage from expertise really that big of a jump? Or just a nice bonus? Haha sorry for asking

[dawn lance]

this is what im running after coming back to the game since 2019. its just cobbled together things that I've had drop from missions. if anyone has recommendations, please lmk

[gentle lichen]

Think of it as adding 2 red cores

[dawn lance]

i feel like i do no dmg, and also die instantly

[gentle lichen]

It's not much when you're full red

[gentle lichen]

Swap striker chest for equalizer and use either overdogs or coyote's mask

Also swap your weapon if you like lmgs try iron lung

I'd also suggest using gunner to get a little armor on kill to help you survive

[dawn lance]

I dont have equalizer, overdogs, or coyotes mask. the only other lmk I have is bluescreen or something like that. I've been tryna farm st elmos, but it eludes me. probably due to low difficulty settings

[dawn lance]

I've been trying to unlock it, but everytime i do roosevelt island I accidentally kill basilisk before his armor comes off

[gentle lichen]

farm them in countdown or at least equalizer and a good AR like famas
as for exotics you can do retaliations to get the bps

[gentle lichen]

try using a status effects build with chem launcher on normal difficulty
shouldn't take long that way

[grim bluff]

Oxidizer should do it, but that's skill damage not status effects

[dawn lance]

i dont know what gear to get for status effect build. and idk what countdown is

[grim bluff]

Over on the right side of the map, the green icon, you hold down H and it lets you pick the kind of gear you want to farm. Press G and it lets you join matchmaking. You travel to the power plant where you have to complete 2/3 objectives and then a main objective to clear the mode, then extract via helicopter while being attacked by Hunters. It has a 15 minute timer, then a 4 minute extraction timer. Stick with the group and you can generally figure it out by yourself pretty well, just listen to what the the NPCs say and do objectives

[grizzled garnet]

the difference between heroic and challenging in terms of gear is negligible so its much better to run challenging for quicker runs

[dawn lance]

i can barely do hard without just dying constantly

[young flower]

I haven't fought him yet but I just gotta break the armor on his body right

[grizzled garnet]

it takes practice to learn positioning and time to get a good build together. the hunters at the beginning and end can be a massive hurdle so my best tip is... just dont rush them

[grim bluff]

Thanks, I forgot to add that important part

[obtuse zealot]

Weird question but does anyone have a good strikers build their willing to hand out lmao 😂

[grim bluff]

Pinned has a build spreadsheet

[late vault]

Does someone know why i can't upgrade it to Protoype? i dont get it 🙁

[grim bluff]

Unequip the item and you can upgrade it

[late vault]

oh, okay ! i'm dumb ! 🤣 thanks a lot

[smoky latch]

No you're not, it's either a bug or badly designed.

[grizzled garnet]

they could've taken a similar approach to how you can reroll equipped exotics. warn you and let you if you accept

[smoky latch]

If there's really no other way then that could be an option

[dawn lance]

i did it with ars focused like the other guy said, but idk what I should be looking for

[willow sigil]

look for striker kneepads, and then switch to unit alloy and look for equalizer and salvo. that should get you going enough until you unlock some usable exotics. spend your countdown req on exotic caches.

[dawn lance]

whats unit alloy? and is equalizer and salvo named armor?

[willow sigil]

both named armor of the unit alloy brand set

[glacial patio]

Equalizer and salvo with 4x striker is perfect fir an AR striker build. Switch salvo with contractor gloves or maybe an exotic mask of choice with an LMG of choice for a great lmg striker build.

[dawn lance]

gotcha, and where do I spend countdown money?

[willow sigil]

to the left of the seasonal vendor at the white house

[grim bluff]

You want high RPM assault rifles that you enjoy using, famas, police m4, carbine 7, honey badger are good examples, they're all 800ish RPM. Lets you keep Striker stacks up easier. You can also use a ACS-12 shotgun as your secondary weapon as it fires fast and each pellet adds to striker stacks. Or use an LMG as the above suggests, the M5 or MK46 are great.

The countdown vendor is near the seasonal vendor in the white house, it's a laptop. When you step outside the front go left through the gate, then along the shacks. The seasonal vendor is first and then to their left is the countdown laptop

[dawn lance]

any named variants to keep an eye out for on those ars?

[blissful remnant]

If yore gonna do strikers set I reccomend Dark winter. High RPM and can come with perfect killer. Me personally for my strikers set i use Chameleon and dark winter and throw on mods that increase CHC and CHD

even on heroic im burning through enemies

but then again Dark winter is an SMG but I think its still fairly solid and reliable

[dawn lance]

what slot is salvo in? i got equalizer, but no salvo

[glacial patio]

Holster

Those two pieces are perfect addition for an AR striker build

[clever merlin]

For solo memento Bp and equalizer chest is better imo

[grim bluff]

Bear in mind this is a DZ only named item, so you can only get it from dark zones or named item caches you can buy from the Countdown vendor. It is a very very nice SMG though

[timid token]

Can I use a unit alloy build for my st Elmo

If so can someone share a unit alloy picture build

[subtle bluff]

Yes?

[timid token]

U got a unit alloy picture build thx

[subtle bluff]

You won't like it but sure...

[timid token]

K

[clever merlin]

Any AR can use UA

[timid token]

Luckily I got the overdogs

[subtle bluff]

In context any build can use any weapon… But we’re not being specific here.

[timid token]

And what I should have on my chc and chd

[subtle bluff]

the standard amount

[timid token]

K

So 54% on chc and 115% on chd

[subtle bluff]

i mean there isn't different ways...

it's not a fixed amount.... Only time is with TS or BF stuff.

[timid token]

K

[subtle bluff]

you can't always hit what you said on every build.

[timid token]

I just want a new build cause I been using striker lately and I’m kinda tired of stacking

But thx 🙏

[subtle bluff]

There are many builds in the build hub.

[timid token]

Where do I find build hub on google ?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages

[timid token]

Oh ok

[subtle bluff]

Sheet 2

[timid token]

K

[young flower]

what skill would be the best for reactive offense on striker
been using the crusader shield but I heard the banshee pulse was better

[subtle bluff]

There isn’t a “better” or best. It’s what fit what you’re needing and doing.

Decoy, EMP Sticky, Banshee, Rez hive, Shield are a things that work.

[young flower]

I would like to move out of cover without getting two tapped

the shield used to work fine but once I moved out of normal difficulty it pretty much gets me killed because of the stun when it breaks

[strange vortex]

you should put it away before it breaks

[young flower]

It sorta breaks instantly

[lone glacier]

use cover to cover aswell..

[dawn lance]

how do i get more skill mods? it seems like they never drop

[young flower]

I use the shield to move out of cover to another spot

[strange vortex]

ah you are running full red striker?

[young flower]

I think so yea

[strange vortex]

focus mods for your map and run countdown

[young flower]

this isnt the final build the weapons, armor and gloves are just temporary until I get what I need

[strange vortex]

dont run all 6

[young flower]

I know I don't have a choice

[strange vortex]

youre on pc

[young flower]

gonna get equalizer and overdogs with lexington/police m4 and acs-12

[young flower]

I am on pc

[strange vortex]

if you like i can help you we can run a retaliation and see what we can do for you

[young flower]

I was told countdown was the best place to grind

[ivory abyss]

retaliations are better imo except if you are looking for named items

[young flower]

I am looking for named items

[strange vortex]

it is but i am so burnt out on countdown

[young flower]

lexington and equalizer
exotic overdogs
and acs-12 with brazen

[strange vortex]

and if you are getting one tapped you cant benefit from the best part for drops on countdown

[young flower]

idk if exotics are named

[lone glacier]

Lexington is overrated

[ivory abyss]

You cant get lexington anyways lol so either have it already or you have to wait

[strange vortex]

if you do retaliations you can get the blueprints for these exotics and the parts to make them

[young flower]

I sit behind cover and watch my team oneshot anyone who so much as dares to poke a toe out of the helicopter its been going fine for me if I ignore how I'm not getting anything I need to progress the build

[young flower]

wdym I can't get it

[subtle bluff]

Um.. you need to finish your build first…

[young flower]

I'm working on that part

[ivory abyss]

It doesnt drop lol its only from event caches or stretch goals

[strange vortex]

are you focusing the parts of your build like you want a chest with obliterate on

[young flower]

wallahi police m4 it is then

[ivory abyss]

Lexington as of right now is not obtainable

Which is poop imo lol

It should be obtainable anywhere

[young flower]

I run countdown and pray one of the drops is equalizer
I use the countdown credits to buy exotic caches and hope I get overdogs
after I get equalizer I'm setting tl to assault rifles and hoping for a good police m4
then I'll set it to shotguns and get a brazen asc-12

[strange vortex]

whats poop is they gave a godroll lexington when it was obtainable lol

[manic bough]

Yo! TS build with equalizer and tinkerer GR9, first talent is frenzy, what would be the best 2nd talent?

[young flower]

but the point I'm tryna make here is that the shield isn't working as well as I hoped it would and I want an alternative skill to use

[ivory abyss]

decoy

[strange vortex]

@young flower the shield wont work if youre full red as its health pool is too small

[young flower]

How do I get it I don't see the option to buy it with shd tech from the qm

[young flower]

bollocks

[strange vortex]

if you make 2 pieces blue it makes the shield alot more robust

[ivory abyss]

Decoy isnt there? lol its from WONY expansion iirc

[young flower]

I do have that dlc do I need to head to new york to unlock it or something

[strange vortex]

you need to beat theo

[young flower]

damn alright
I'll swap to banshee pulse for now and swap it for decoy once I get it

[strange vortex]

complete the tombs in ny and you unlock it

[timid token]

Sadly it not doing 1mill dmg

[subtle bluff]

talents...

talents are most powerful than parts to the build..

[timid token]

Oh where talent again ?

Wait is it expertise?

[subtle bluff]

.....

I said talents..

[timid token]

Oh u talking about library talent mb

[shy willow]

No he means the talents on your gear are currently useless

[timid token]

Oh

[shy willow]

So you're missing a big chunk of damage

[timid token]

Is there way to fix that

[shy willow]

Farm new ones

The stuff you're looking for is things like glass cannon and obliterate and vigilance and whatnot

Though considering you're running UA you can swap your chest for an equaliser and replace one of your other UA pieces

[timid token]

Luckily I got perfect obliterate

On equalizer

[subtle bluff]

It sounds like you have the pieces for the standard striker build but haven't put it together liked shown in the guide...

[rich cosmos]

I mean, its literally just m4 but better

[ivory abyss]

thats the point

[rich cosmos]

The issue with Lexington is there isn’t anything special about it other than damage

[subtle bluff]

any +790 rpm is all good. Well the ctar maybe not...

[subtle bluff]

Why meta showcase run buid isn't running it.

[ivory abyss]

I just think thats not a real case to be made lol imo

In a game where people min max to squeeze every ounce of damage from a build, to say police M4 is just 5% less or whatever is moot lol lexington is still better

[shy willow]

Better, sure

End all be all, absolutely not

[ivory abyss]

no1 said it was lol

[pine monolith]

Does your core attribute level with your augment on proto gear?

[ivory abyss]

but to act like people shouldnt want it because police m4 is here is moot

[shy willow]

It's less a case of you shouldn't want it and more a case of you can run anything else and do just as well

Care taker is another fomo weapon but nobody talks about that one lol

[ivory abyss]

you can say that about builds, optimizing gear and named items like equalizer

its not needed in strikers to do well or clear anything

[shy willow]

Depending on the content you're doing it is, but if the DPS matters that much you would just use backfire or something anyway

Elmo is a top pick and that doesn't even have a damage talent

That and it's not like running Elmo gives you more crit or dttooc or anything, it's literally just 5 percent base damage

Think even slightly less after the nerf

[ivory abyss]

I just think its like i see people all the time post a build for ex strikers with obli chest and people will rush to say go get equalizer or this or that lol like those make the same difference as lexington and police m4, but when lexington is mentioned its just like yeah you dont need it lol or dont worry about it

[silver coral]

whats a better red for chain killer after headshot

[subtle bluff]

Yes weapon handling

[nimble moss]

I mean, it's probly the fact that lexington, unlike most set or items, can't be farmed outside special time. So yes, builds works without. And no, 5% won't change most of your runs. But if you start to loose 5% there, 15% there, less CHC, missing a talent... Yeah I mean it will matter way more. Lexington isn't something you can farm, so work before on what you can - again it also depend on content, most content are playable without noticing with a lot of builds.

[subtle bluff]

I don't see an issues with M4...

[ivory abyss]

I agree for sure. Its not farmable so not worrying about it is fine, just i think someone made a comment to me about me wanting it to be farmable like it shouldnt be because it doesnt matter which it does slightly like anything else

[inner valve]

Too lazy to retype this

[ivory abyss]

Because if lexington was farmable people would say go get that instead of police M4

[shy willow]

Swap equaliser to the sacrifice and get rid of the blue cores for red ones

[inner valve]

Id get rid of the blue cores if the game wanted to give me lengmo sets with chd and chc

[shy willow]

Until then it's gonna feel underwhelming

[nimble moss]

Yeah understandable. I'm in the same case, having everything I need on my build beside lexington lol.
I'd like it to be farmable too xd Doesn't change everything - I can do now what I could do for lexington - but 5% is 5% xd

[ivory abyss]

its the one gun im missing too lol

[inner valve]

whats the sacrifice?

[shy willow]

Stinger/enforcer are even worse

[inland hound]

lexingtion gets brought out enough for players to have it, i play div 2 on and off and i came back just because lexington/turmoils were dropping in an event lmao

[solar sable]

Named Providence chest with Perfect Glass Cannon

[shy willow]

Named Providence chest w/ perfect glass cannon

[quiet plinth]

pestilence's dot doesnt benefit from strikers buff whatsoever

[nimble moss]

I stopped playing first day of last stretch goal because, quote "I'm too damn lazy for that". Trust me I regretted it when I log back 2 weeks ago. 🤣 Don't be like me.

[rain fox]

If your looking for a decent contender to lexington you should try the caretaker if you have it great gun just used it today after all this time and I can't notice much of a difference apart from the accuracy isn't as good

[ivory abyss]

I literally stopped playing and that was it until i heard about new DLC lol

[solar sable]

Police M4 is better by all means

[inland hound]

caretakers recoil is just sad 🙁

[rain fox]

Maybe but I was tearing through bt retaliation and escalations with it seemed good to me just give it a go see what you think

[inner valve]

Is glass cannon and perfect glass cannon the same thing?

[quiet plinth]

perfect glass cannon is 5% more damage and 30% more damage taken compared to normal glass cannon

[inner valve]

Time to farm then

[subtle bluff]

There a very good guide in the build station for pesti

[quiet plinth]

how big of a difference is overdogs striker with/without an exotic vs tinkerer strikers
im really not a fan of how up in the air overdogs effect ends up being depending on the situation despite how strong it is

[subtle bluff]

there are only very few great weapon talents. Things that give 30% amp would be the reason where Tinkerer is really good.
Then it's fixes you ammo and 2nd to the same weapon type.

[clever merlin]

Does UA always roll 2 red minor attributes?

[subtle bluff]

Any HE (High End) gear always comes with 2 minor roll.
The type is always random.

[plush thistle]

aces and eights worth building?

[tulip charm]

No gear outdated

[serene hare]

Should I keep Optimist on my MPX?

[sly pollen]

I haven't played the game in a while, and I'm looking for a build that can hold its own in Pve on my own. help please

[serene hare]

Everybody is only using blue gear in PvP, Gila Guard, 5.11, GL, Belstone Armory or anything that raises your total defense, regen or armor on kill.

Then pick the Ninjabike backpack and boom, unkillable build.
Just pick 1 stat of every gear with crit chance or headshot damage and you're done.

[sly pollen]

I meant PVE sorry

[serene hare]

For PvE basically anything works.

[sly pollen]

No, what I want to talk about is this: there are these regen and high-damage broken builds. I haven’t played in a long time and I’ve forgotten everything.

I'm going to play on my own, and I don't want to get crushed by the bots

[serene hare]

You can do Hotshot or High-end for MMR, Aces and Eights or High-end for Rifles, Hunter's Fury for SMGs and Shotguns, Striker if you're a pssy, Tipping Scales + Big Alejandro, you can do a Shield build, a skill build, a healer + damage skill build, etc.

[subtle bluff]

lol what 5.11?

[serene hare]

5.11 Tactical Gear Brand.
Set Bonus (1): +30% Health
Set Bonus (2): +30% Incoming Repairs
Set Bonus (3): +30% Hazard Protection

[subtle bluff]

build hub in the pinned messages you'll find a bunch of stuff

[subtle bluff]

ya the worse brandset in the game...

[serene hare]

You can pick 1 piece just for the health, if it's that all you have.

Definitely not as bad, especially if the stats are good.

[subtle bluff]

30 Health is unless like... it does really nothing.

[serene hare]

Wouldn't priorize it though.

[subtle bluff]

Incoming repair is pointless

The point is 5.11 has brandset should Never be suggest for players to use.

It's outright the worse brandset.

[serene hare]

I still don't think 1 piece of it is bad, but ok, especially if you're using Gila Guard and other brand sets that has +HP.

But like I said, I wouldn't priorize it.

[subtle bluff]

Again the point is suggesting it is very misleading.

[serene hare]

Well, there's only cheaters in Dark Zones anyway, so no matter how optimized you are, you gonna get Machinesniped by an unloved sob.

[subtle bluff]

That's not the point.

It's the same reason you didn't say that.

[shy willow]

5.11 is total garbage in every sense

[serene hare]

Jesus Christ, dude.
Ok.

[subtle bluff]

We're here to give good advice.

[shy willow]

HP is one of if not the most useless stats in the game

[serene hare]

So many good advices, but nobody replied me.

Selective advices in a nutshell.

[shy willow]

No

[serene hare]

Thanks, that helped a lot.

[shy willow]

A better question to ask would've been "what talent should I put on my MPX"

It's easier when you leave the question open ended rather than a binary yes/no

[serene hare]

You know, I'm not decontructing my weapon if Optimist is not the best option.

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what?

[serene hare]

Sorry what what?

[subtle bluff]

What are you talking about?

[solar sable]

Sir, don't, ignore this guy 🙏

[subtle bluff]

Oh did I?

[serene hare]

I don't know what is so hard to understand.
I make a question and nobody replied me.
I do a small mistake on the recomendations and there are 3 mfs correcting me.

[serene hare]

Mind your business, idiot.

[subtle bluff]

Oh here. You want a killer or measured.
Intimated chest is better too.

Would say go look for SMG9 or tac Vector instead mpx is mid.

[subtle bluff]

Chill we don't need to resort to name calling.

[solar sable]

I'm telling the same to Chow, he doesn't need to spend more time with stubborn morons like you.

[serene hare]

I thought about Measured, tbh, but what's the difference on getting damage overtime and getting less damage for more RPM and then less RPM for more damage?

[subtle bluff]

Your OP post was like 10 mins beforehand and people just haven't seen it in time.

[solar sable]

you know ball

[serene hare]

Do the same and piss off!
I don't even know this other idiot, all for the better.

[subtle bluff]

The advice is not suggested 5.11 because it bad by all means.

[serene hare]

So, I made a question that is not 10 minutes ago.

[subtle bluff]

The up front measured is more DPS actually so higher TTK.

[subtle bluff]

I wasn't around them to notice till we went into an argument.

[serene hare]

Like I said, I'm not picking Killer because I already have the Dark Winter.

It's pointless to pick another SMG with Killer, imo.
Measured is considerable, but there are any other option?

[subtle bluff]

Both tac Vector and smg9 with killer do more than dark winter.

[serene hare]

Yeah, but I wanna use the MPX.

[subtle bluff]

I suggest the top 2 talents. The rest are mid give them a shot.

[smoky latch]

Get The Apartment with Perfectly Measured

[serene hare]

I have a SM-9 though.
Is it really that strong?

[subtle bluff]

Yes I wouldn't suggest them otherwise.

[serene hare]

Huh, look who decided to reply me?
And with an useful advice... if I ever get this weapon.

[serene hare]

So besides Measured and Killer, nothing else works?

[subtle bluff]

Tac Vector with killer

[subtle bluff]

I already answer this.

[serene hare]

Oh, I forget, I deconstructed my SM-9.

[serene hare]

Huh... yeah, ok.

[subtle bluff]

Try them out yourself.

The rest aren't really that noticeable of a difference.

[serene hare]

So why the big "no" when I mentioned the Optimist?

Isn't Optimist one of the best talents in the game after it got fixed?

[subtle bluff]

Never was

[serene hare]

Just an impression or Perfected Measured is worse than standard Measured?
The initial shots deals even less damage.

[subtle bluff]

DPS I said not bullet dmg.

[serene hare]

"There are these 2 talents, pick them or pick anything else"
"Can I use this, then?"
"No, it's bad".

I getting to nowhere.

I want a talent that will bring me consistency instead of RNG bullshit.

[shy willow]

Soooo measured

[serene hare]

What I really wanted to do is to put Scanner and Flatline, but then I'd lose my Decoy.

[serene hare]

Yes, that's why I'm considering it, but I wanna know if there is another option that comes close to it.

[shy willow]

Back and forth is okay too if you don't mind swapping

[subtle bluff]

You're taking what I said out of context.
I've stated my advice.

[shy willow]

Otherwise can't really think of anything other than the X effect amp talents

[serene hare]

I kinda do.

[subtle bluff]

It's good advice but you want option it seems right?

[serene hare]

Que?

[serene hare]

Those talents and lack of options kinda piss me off, tbh.

[shy willow]

It's not like there aren't options

It's just that obviously certain options are better which is why they're recommended

[serene hare]

Man, I got so stressed when I got my MPX, just to figure out that I can't use the Technician laser in it.

[subtle bluff]

Here's your question again. I gave my advice to the build.

I showed you a showcase of the advice in action and you've idk with it all.

tbh to you, I give generally just meta (most effective strategies) advice if that's not what you want I normally opt out of giving specific advice.

[fossil crag]

Come to the pvp channel we are the dark side

[dawn bane]

how do you get turmoil? named caches only?

[subtle bluff]

you can't atm

[dawn bane]

:c

[subtle bluff]

Don't sweat it you're not missing out on much with it.

You're a better player for not trying to use it.

I have like 4 they sit around in my stash.

[serene hare]

Speaking of meta, for a HF build it's better to have Protection against Elites or Critical Damage?

I do heroic solo basically riskless with Protection against Elites.

But my damage is overall lower, but remedied by Memento.

So I get tanky while dealing good damage.

[clever merlin]

Crit imo unless you doing retaliation and even then I'd take crit still

[young flower]

should I replace my left dark winter with right backfire for red striker

[soft crane]

No, that Dark Winter is good.

It has DTOOC

[serene hare]

I think crit mods are good for full DPS builds that works better for teams or a build that has absurd damage sustain, like Tipping Scales.

[young flower]

is 9% more damage really that good compared to the 200% critical damage backfire gets

[soft crane]

I doubt you can reach max stack for Backfire on a regular basis.

[young flower]

alright thanks

[soft crane]

Dark Winter is perfect killer and you get 90% CHD isnt it?

[young flower]

yea

[shy willow]

Backfire is super impractical

It's only good in a small handful of places where you can actually keep the stacks up

[soft crane]

Its only good on paper.

[serene hare]

Tfw you get the 200 stacks, only to vanish in 10 seconds.

Idk which exotic SMG is the worst, Oxpecker or Backfire.

[soft crane]

I'd say Chatterbox

[young flower]

damn is it that bad the starter guide said it was a musthave exotic

[soft crane]

What starter guide?

[clever merlin]

Pfe just doesn't do enough especially solo where all the attention is on you

[young flower]

the lvl 40 starter guide pinned in #ask-td2-community

[subtle bluff]

PFE isn't worth

[shy willow]

Most exotic smgs are pretty good in their niche

[serene hare]

I think I survived many ganks thanks to PFE.

[shy willow]

Oxpecker is just mid and lady death is horrific, rest are good

[solar prairie]

I have a level15 decoy, would taking it to 30 make a dramatic difference?

[subtle bluff]

Lady Death is the one trick.....

[soft crane]

The hell, since when Dodge City, Bloody Knuckles, and Birdies Quickfix are must have?

[young flower]

idk I just follow the guide

[serene hare]

You kidding me? Dodge City is super good.

[shy willow]

It had at least something going for it when we had leagues and no quickstep😭

[subtle bluff]

It's a keep list...

[solar sable]

DCH for HHF setups, BK for Incursion, Birdies for hotswap uppies

[shy willow]

All 3 of these are really good

[subtle bluff]

and incursion speed... never liked it there

[soft crane]

Im certain you just need to have 1 copy of every exotic.

[shy willow]

Who tf is using it in the incursion😭

[subtle bluff]

Speed ad clear wright

[serene hare]

Is it really not worth it?
Like I said, I think I survived many ganks thanks to it, especially because I don't use revive hive for this build.

[shy willow]

It is not

[serene hare]

Why though?

[shy willow]

Assuming you're running 3 PFE mods you're losing 36 percent CHD or 18 percent CHC

[shy willow]

Decent chunk of damage loss

[subtle bluff]

Shown above

There are builds out there that use it but for harder stuff.

[shy willow]

If you think it's worth running that's your prerogative but you asked us

[serene hare]

But this is Striker.
Of course Striker needs crit damage, but I'm talking about Hunter's Fury, which I need to get close.

Also it's 36% to 36%.

[subtle bluff]

I don't have my HF clip saved

[clever merlin]

HF is amp dmg so more chd is better too

[subtle bluff]

there all on my YouTube taht I can't share.

[serene hare]

But I'll have to swap my Decoy for Revive Hive.

[subtle bluff]

OH I have a clip showing how much AoK that HF give is all you need..

[serene hare]

Should I use Gunner with Crusader Shield, then?
I'm using Firewall with Striker Shield.

[gentle lichen]

They're the same value just get printer filament to skip the process

[clever merlin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ it's up to you

Test both to see what you like

[soft crane]

Alright thanks and I just realized I posted it in the wrong chat.

[gentle lichen]

You used to get ~33% more from doing that but not anymore

[serene hare]

I like what I'm doing.

But I wanna know if there's something better and why it's better. instead of "more damage", because I don't think damage is everything.

[soft crane]

Guess what, Why You Should Run 6 Red Cores 👈

[serene hare]

I'm already using 6 reds

[shy willow]

You've been told why it's better: more damage

[subtle bluff]

Ok don't mind how much dmg and the dumb stuff but note the armor and AoK happening

[shy willow]

Again run whatever you want that's your prerogative but you're going to see the same/similar recommendations if you come here for advice

People tend towards meta picks

[serene hare]

Well, I can't play like that.
Also those damage values make no sense to me.

[subtle bluff]

HF needs kills to happen for it to work.

[serene hare]

Oh ok.

[subtle bluff]

Again do not note the dmg.. just how I was able to stay alive because of HF AoK and it's CC

That's a VERY reckless clip and showing off how OP the GE were a month or 2 ago were.

[serene hare]

Well, it's hard to not consider the damage in that fact, it is literally what helped you to stay alive in that video.

[subtle bluff]

Again SUPER reckless..

[shy willow]

If he was running striker he would've gotten painted all over the wall after the first 1-2 ads

[subtle bluff]

Any other build I would have been dead

[shy willow]

HF has unparalleled self sustain

[livid sorrel]

in typical gameplay without GEs you'd obviously play more cautious, but HF AoK will still sustain you

[subtle bluff]

It's a showcase of how OP GE's can get and how much survival HF has.

[serene hare]

Well, I'll try running my build with CHD mods.
But if I die during a solo heroic run, I'm headbutting the wall.

[gentle lichen]

I like to imagine a world where HF HOK would reset OSP

[livid sorrel]

it's a matter of practice

[shy willow]

The true god mode build

[gentle lichen]

IF you keep the kills coming

[serene hare]

I prefer consistency against most situations, especially in Retalliation, which enemies spawn behind you for bullshit reasons.

[livid sorrel]

well just consistently kill

[clever merlin]

I have a t6 defender drone build that's pretty good for survivability and recklessness

[livid sorrel]

how's your damage tho

[shy willow]

Then run high end glass cannon problem solved

[serene hare]

This is pretty close to those souls' players "advices" to "just don't get it, you don't need vigor if you don't get hit".

[serene hare]

How a glass cannon build will solve a problem of taking damage?

[shy willow]

The advice is similar in this game

[serene hare]

You're telling me to take more damage?

[shy willow]

You said you wanted consistency lol, other chest talents need stacking

[livid sorrel]

just do whatever man idk what you want, stopping enemies from killing you is the best way to avoid damage

[clever merlin]

It's ok

Using chameleon and with all buffs active I can get close to a mil per crit

Need full memento stacks too

[serene hare]

Ah, come on, dude...

[shy willow]

Stacks ramp up, GC doesn't need ramp up, always active, very consistent

[serene hare]

There's a difference between stacking while shooting and depending of a RNG to kill with crit hit to activate Killer, for example

[clever merlin]

Tbf you can get full stack of obliterate pretty quick

[gentle lichen]

obliterate is the safest and most consistent chest talent

[serene hare]

And I have a fully optimized Equalizer.

[shy willow]

do what you please

[subtle bluff]

who's around quickly to copy and paste something for me?

[shy willow]

yuh

https://youtu.be/2mPJ6m3m0Ws?si=6rYQGsWkgOPRJHkG

[subtle bluff]

That is a HF build doing heroic

I don't like Obli on HF tbh

[livid sorrel]

how's intimidate and memento on HF?

[subtle bluff]

imo meta

[shy willow]

really good

[subtle bluff]

It's what being ran into the video link above

Oh it isn't..

crap basket...

I need to make some HF showcases again

[shy willow]

decription says gc/vigi

[subtle bluff]

crap most of my HF is with GC/Vig.....

someone copy paste this that

[clever merlin]

I don't like intimidate memento cause sometimes you're left with a boss/sniper and the talent becomes useless

[subtle bluff]

It stay up has long as you have bonus armor still

[smoky latch]

Matador alternatively

[subtle bluff]

It's actually the reason I / ME take memento over AD Rush.

AD rush is just simpler

[livid sorrel]

But you lose weapon damage from memento

[subtle bluff]

becomes Kill for everything

[serene hare]

This damn viral infection is killing me, Jesus...
Still hurts a bit when I randomly cough.

It's just so stressing how my PC freezes when I alt tab this game.

[civic meteor]

The chance to get a God roll on a prototype is like

0.10% right?

[next dawn]

.01

[summer totem]

In term of overall stats does core strength full skill core with max stack memento top against a refractor build with 2 hana U? In your opinion ofc

[noble dirge]

In raw stats alone, CS + Memento. It may lose out on skill efficiency, but it makes up for it with damage and armor, especially with full blue or red.

Don't remember what 2 pieces Hana U does, but Refactor gets most of its value through skill status effect damage

[civic meteor]

So realistically 100 or so times to get a full set

[summer totem]

Correct me if im wrong but wont 4 skill core strength give skill effeciency per skill core

[next dawn]

Realistically yes 1/100 will be one but often time those odds are wrong do to probability

[noble dirge]

Sorry, made a mistake, if you have 4 yellow CS, you won't get extra Skill Efficiency from them.

It has to be non-yellow cores

[summer totem]

What

[noble dirge]

Remember that Core Strength gives you extra stats for cores not present in your current set

[summer totem]

So if i put 4 yellow, what do i benefit from

[noble dirge]

24% Weapon Damage and ~200k Armor

Assuming you don't have the body armor on

[summer totem]

Does it affect all gear? Or only in the gear set

[noble dirge]

All gear. Every main core gives you a small bonus

[summer totem]

How does backpacks with 3 stat works

[gentle lichen]

add 2 extra cores

[noble dirge]

It's basically getting 12% Weapon Damage, 30% Skill Efficiency and ~100k armor

[summer totem]

Im confused about how it works honestly

[next dawn]

Hmm

[summer totem]

Thanks for the explanation guess i know now

[next dawn]

Core strength is a weird one indeed

[noble dirge]

Basically it pulls parts of a core out of thin air and gives it to you

It's like having a big stack of Memento active

It's also the main reason why it's being fielded in PvP; free stats after normalization, so you can become a DPS tank hybrid with strong skills.

[summer totem]

So if i were to play smg ar build, which cores should i prioritize

[summer totem]

Yeah i tried it in DZ with a skill build and it worked wonders

[noble dirge]

Full red, since you're going the weapons route.

[summer totem]

I feel like capacitor synergizes with the build well or am i wrong

[noble dirge]

You'll still get 2 million armor and 90% skill efficiency at minimum

[summer totem]

Dang

[noble dirge]

Only if you're going full yellow

[gentle lichen]

90 is not feasible even with full red/blue
you have to calc the skill eff just like you would WD

[summer totem]

I feel like the chest piece plays a huge role into getting the effeciency

[gentle lichen]

craziest thing about the set is it double dips on skill cores if you're running capacitor

[noble dirge]

Chest piece is mandatory since backpack does nothing

[summer totem]

Iirc wasnt it 30 to 75% increase?

[noble dirge]

You could try Memento if you need more power, or NB if you want something goofy

[summer totem]

If you have chest piece

[noble dirge]

IIRC, yeah

[slate wedge]

it’s 22.5% WD, 22.5% Skill Efficiency and 255k armor

[noble dirge]

Oh, well, there you go, @summer totem

[summer totem]

On memento?

Im loving the build solely because of how tanky it is

[slate wedge]

that’s just the additional stuff you get from using a 3-core backpack on Core Strength

[summer totem]

Is that with the chest piece?

[slate wedge]

yes, but i’d always use that

[noble dirge]

Feels like the proper CS build is Memento, CS chest, your choice of Named piece, and fill the rest with CS

[summer totem]

Without the chest piece how much would it be

[summer totem]

Doesnt the chest piece play like a huge part in getting those bonuses

[slate wedge]

for example just the cores on NBB alone give you 1 Skill Tier, 37.5% Weapon Damage, 425k Armor and 22.5% Skill Efficiency

[noble dirge]

That's why I said CS chest, because it's mandatory

[summer totem]

Sorry lutang, didnt see clearly what you said

Rn im running memento, with 4 piece CS and salvo

[slate wedge]

because you get
1 Y + 0.75 x B + 0.75 x R
1B + 0.75 x R + 0.75 x Y
1R + 0.75 x Y + 0.75 x B

[summer totem]

Probably gonna change the attributes to skill damage

[slate wedge]

that’s a good build for PvE

[summer totem]

And see how it goes

[gentle lichen]

and for the equations skill tier is translated to 15% eff

[young flower]

I finally got the equalizer what stat should I change

[ebon lantern]

weapon handling for crit hit damage

[young flower]

got it thanks

[grim bluff]

Keep grinding for one with higher stats too, that'd cost a lot to optimise

[ebon lantern]

^

I do love that you have the option to optimize but the cost is freaking crazy lol

[drifting raptor]

New level 40 here. What content should I immediately jump into for a build? Ideally want to get to escalation at some point

[next dawn]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[soft crane]

Countdown, challenging difficulty should do.

[drifting raptor]

Thanks guys, saved the word doc. Huge!!! If anyone wants to hang and game lmk

[soft crane]

"They have a Ninjabike" bruh thats a good one.

[soft crane]

Lol

[flint arch]

IF IT'S IN ALL CAPS IT MUST BE GOOD FOR DESTROYING LEGENDARY AS THEY SAY

[next dawn]

Trust it's a good build

[drifting raptor]

Dmed you for source btw 🫡

[next dawn]

#ask-td2-community message

[plush thistle]

best in slot talent for police m4 red striker build with sacrifice and acs - 12 B&F; i chose killer is there a better option?

[hazy steeple]

@plush thistle Killer is the solo option, in a group Measured/Strained would be better though.

[plush thistle]

is sadist still useful for my acs - 12 or would you say B&F is better?

[fossil crag]

If you are fighting at distance try ranger

[plush thistle]

i tend to fight close and mid usually as i have a acs - 12 for stacks so i would have a hard time utilizing ranger completely for my striker build

[fossil crag]

Yeah never mind haha.

[next dawn]

Go pummel

[plush thistle]

on primary or secondary?

[next dawn]

On the Acs 12

Pummel is a shotgun talent.

[plush thistle]

ill give that a shot if i swap weapons after the 3rd kill can i use my primary with the 40% or does it disappear on swap?

[fossil crag]

Brazon, when it decides to work, is the best

[next dawn]

Disappear on swap

[plush thistle]

ill try that after i try pummel not sure which one is best both look good

[next dawn]

Brazon for more damage pummel for most stack potential from the refill mag

[plush thistle]

ah right now i think of it you usually run the chest you said that makes sense

[fossil crag]

Shouldn’t take more then a drum to get stacks

[plush thistle]

with chest takes almost 3 mags if every pellet hits sense chest doubles stack limit

[hazy steeple]

A lot of people have swapped their Striker stack-building weapon to an SMG these days, since you're close, you can take advantage of some pretty crazy combos.
but be careful of running the Striker Chest outside of content that can take advantage of it, it's mostly a loss in DPS.

[next dawn]

I run striker chest

[hazy steeple]

tl;dr striker chest is only for Incursion/higher Escalation tiers/sometimes Heroic CD, stuff where the enemy has a stupidly high health pool.

[fossil crag]

He said he was using the sacro. P-glass cannon. He’s not in a raid and still should only take 1.5 drums to full stack a “raid striker”

[fossil crag]

Oo snap my fault disregard what I said @plush thistle I swore I read he was using the glassy of glass

[plush thistle]

lol i apologize i just connected the dots when he said he used pummel so your all good

[fossil crag]

I think someone tied our shoe laces together 🤣

[fossil crag]

I con-fuzzzed my self you mentioned the sacro 🤣

[plush thistle]

ya i have been trying to use sacrifice over equalizer as of currently but i gotta say solo sacrifice is quite a challenge but on retals i am finding striker chest to spawn camp there spawns to be more effective over other 2 chests so i'm just trying to find that sweet spot for doing retal and doing the work up for retal

[fossil crag]

I think the answer to your question lays in the question of how much “steel” are you umm. Well umm. You get what I’m getting to. 🤣

[plush thistle]

lol ill make it happen im almost at 1k shd so ill be able to get enough "steel" hehe but i am prefering to only have 1 of each weapon otherwise i won't know whats what anymore

[fossil crag]

I picked p-oblit because I have been dreaming of that talent since OG oblit was blessed to us hahaha. So that’s just me. I’m at the point for norm to leggy content I run what I like. IE I think that’s the term haha. I use both the UA names chest and holster for the because I love ROF Makes the lex/popoM4 feel more div 1 because our mag mods would give us ROF and the p-oblit. I know I could get way more Dmg with the overdingo gloves over the holster but again ROF haha.

[plush thistle]

lol i do like oblit just takes a bit of a wind up same with striker chest which is why i was lookin at using sacrifice

[plush thistle]

can't get yaaahl gear?

[hazy steeple]

Yaahl and Sys Corr are both "DZ locked".

[solar sable]

dz only and via crafting

[plush thistle]

gotcha explains my fat 0 ty

[hazy steeple]

Sys Corr does drop from legacy season caches, and you can get Yaahl from the Clan Vendor when it's there, but both can take a while to get any.
Luckily, both are not useful in basically any build.

[plush thistle]

ya i was only after it for proficiency reasons so ill just be using mats

[plush thistle]

can you explain the reason a bit like i understand it helps so you dont have to get close thus allowing way more diversity but doesn't it take longer to get stacks?

[onyx sage]

if you don't use striker chest you don't need to use acs to build stacks faster, with non-chest striker you get to 100 easily with any other automatic weapon

in some situations it's unrealistic to get within range to acs anyway

[vague zodiac]

What's the fastest achievable TTK at AOE in shooting range?

[subtle bluff]

What do you mean? "in shoot range?"

I don't get it.

[onyx sage]

the ttk section

[subtle bluff]

0.00?

[onyx sage]

he's asking the fastest ttk you can get in that section in shooting range

yeah but how the game records it, idk ask him

[subtle bluff]

hence.

[vague zodiac]

The TTK at AOE at shooting range.

[subtle bluff]

on what difficlty?

what are the limitation?

[onyx sage]

on heroic, with max stack hh regulus, it's theoretically 0.00

[vague zodiac]

Very hard, with guns shooting, just be "practical". Im not adding directives coz it kinda bugs in shooting range.

[vague zodiac]

I got 5.2s with striker, im testing my builds to prepare for escalation, so just practical testing is fine

[buoyant perch]

You don't need the range to know if a build is good or not.

[flint arch]

what matters is your DPS, especially in escalation

[flint arch]

as dien said, you can technically get basically no TTK at all in the range

but you are not going to bring headhunter's fury into escalation, you will do nothing to the enemies and die instantly

[onyx sage]

shooting range enemies are way squishier and have no mutators to screw you up, it's in no way shape or form representative of escalation, heck not even legendary

[flint arch]

isn't the max difficulty in the range heroic anyway

[onyx sage]

ye

if you wanna see how you do in escalation... just do it

[buoyant perch]

Hello Nike

[vague zodiac]

What build are you using? This is mine: 4 piece striker + fox prayer + contractor gloves

[flint arch]

get rid of that blue core. you will tank 0.0001 more bullets in escalation with one blue core

[subtle bluff]

LOL you're not getting any of this..

[vague zodiac]

Its just coz having 1 blue survives 1 more bullet from snipers in legendary, so i have it

[buoyant perch]

Nah, that's not how it works

[zealous scaffold]

I mean just don't get hit

[onyx sage]

^

[onyx sage]

unironically

[zealous scaffold]

And if survivability is a thing you want don't use whats essentially a glass cannon build.

Use like idk core strength or smth

[onyx sage]

bro wants to do escalation, i don't think he has a choice 💀

[zealous scaffold]

I mean ig. Doing any build rn that isnt the most passive skill build.

A lmg killing everything build

Or core strength build

[flint arch]

escalation is DPS and support or nothing. you don't get to choose

[onyx sage]

i know, i'm saying he's pretty much forced into going full DPS for escalation anyway, that blue core doesn't help either

[buoyant perch]

Yes but maybe tier 3 and below you can fudge around a little bit

[zealous scaffold]

Foundry bulwark build in the big 26?

[onyx sage]

hey don't diss my 5p foundry nbb

[zealous scaffold]

Its Ole reliable

[onyx sage]

sorry, 5p foundry with core strength backpack

[zealous scaffold]

Oh that sounds good for anything that isnt above story difficulty!

[onyx sage]

hard difficulty is indeed too hard for me. idk why devs made even higher difficulties. think i'll stick to story

[flint arch]

yeah i guess

[buoyant perch]

Will this dethrone your highest rated build on buildstation.app?

[onyx sage]

idk anything about that, but it will massively affect LeBron's legacy

[flint arch]

I prefer Classified Striker

[hazy steeple]

Without having looked into it, is buildstation like Overframe?

It feels overframe-y

[noble pelican]

I've done T6 solo with 3pc Foundry + Ninja.

Wouldn't suggest it, however. Definitely switching for 7+. I'd rather have the fear of dying compared to the fear of time running out lol

[subtle bluff]

None of my build have been rated yet

[noble pelican]

It's similar.

Overframe is definitely simpler, without any "You'll deal X amount of dps" with skills display, for example. Buildstation has similar issues however; The "top rated" builds are.. absolutely not the best and it's going to be a "I got linked this by a content creator who asked me to upvote it", if it becomes more popular, similar to Overframe.

It's great for theorycrafting builds you want to share with e.g. friends and the like, however.

Unlike Overframe (which can't put a value on how "good" a build is), Buildstation could allow you to sort by things like effective burst/sustain (for dps builds) and such in the future, however.

[wet wren]

overframe is you either get linked a build or look for the one ninjase put, for new players at least who would want these build guides in the first place

[noble pelican]

Kinda feeling honored here, given that I'm one of the few people that sit on the top builds page next to him, despite not even being a content creator. lol

[buoyant perch]

@onyx sage

[onyx sage]

lmfao

[wicked echo]

If I want a build that doesn’t need stacks what would it be ? (Strong)

[solar sable]

BROTHER WHAT
WHAT IS THAT

[wet wren]

top rated build

[wicked echo]

What’s the app tho 😶‍🌫️

[noble pelican]

<2.2m effective sustained dps.

Yea, that's a prime example. lol

[wet wren]

buildstation.app

[buoyant perch]

For context, it's a troll build on this channel

[wet wren]

oh its optimized now, it has capacitor not st elmo's

[onyx sage]

i had to craft so many improvised pieces but it's all for the meme

[noble pelican]

Oh, I'm aware. It's just a good example on "top rated" not meaning "best available".

Overframe has similar builds where people somehow got upvoted with "pure damage, levelcap" builds.. that don't have any way of mitigating damage.

[solar sable]

back when modifiers werent a thing

[vague zodiac]

Perstilence, 4 coco, equalizer + overdogs is quite strong in escalation, and less stressful to play with than striker

[noble pelican]

I'm still curious why there's such a gigantic difference between Buildstation and the (buggy) dummy in-game, however.

Buildstation isn't yet supporting perks on weapons, is it? Just realized that it shows armor/set effects, but not weapon perks lol

[noble pelican]

Also really enjoyable in Retal's, where you have to run all the time, tbh.

[subtle bluff]

T5 and below sure. otherwise things don't die quick enough to keep up CoCo stacks.

[hazy steeple]

Someone link me buildstation, I need to add it to my bookmarks.

[onyx sage]

buildstation.app

[noble pelican]

https://buildstation.app/ - in case you need the full url.

[subtle bluff]

It's in the pinned messages too

[hazy steeple]

I'll be honest, the main page is not exactly filling me with a lot of hope.

[solar sable]

yk what, fudge meta

[noble pelican]

It's definitely not as "ready" as Overframe yet, if you expect that.

As noted, weapon perks are currently not calculated afaik and there's a few more QoL things missing - but it's getting there.

[hazy steeple]

I feel like I should clarify.
Overframe is famous (infamous, really) in the WF community for being a big old pile of rotting trash.

To give a comparison, it's like the div2 youtuber of build websites.

[noble pelican]

It's 99.9% trash, but also the only decent platform for actually good builds to be shared, yea.
-# God damn i miss warframer builder, with it's actually decent calculations tab lol

Buildstation would - if more people end up using it - end in the exact same spot, however.

[analog mural]

honestly id take this any day over 6 blue strikers with memento in escalation

[flint arch]

only time it works is in t0 escalation

[analog mural]

idk why i cant kick players out of my group as a party leader, i saw a lvl 100 rando in my tier 5 escalation matchmaking with a HW dmg skill build, asked the guy to switch to heals coz honestly HW works ok with heals, he didnt switch

tried to kick him, its "vote to remove", other dudes didnt even bother to kick him soo it's safe to say it was 25 escalation tokens down the drain

[noble pelican]

You also get like 3minutes of wait time, before you can even vote. lol

[analog mural]

yea which is annoying coz i didnt wanna waste others time, i assume its there so u dont kick them mid-activity but like we didnt start a mission

next time ill just leave and requeue for t5 escalation coz this feels like doing legendary with a new player but 2x worse

[clever merlin]

cursed build

honestly its OK if you can get all the buffs and max memento stacks

have to end encounters in 45 seconds though and even with 67.5% dmg reduction you can still die if multiple enemies are targeting you

also dont use glass cannon the trade off isnt worth it

and use the blackout pulse modifiers with the fastest cd

[flint arch]

it's extremely cursed indeed

[hexed steppe]

Neuter damage to reduce incoming damage... winning

[flint arch]

lower your TTK to increase enemies' TTK, very efficient

[noble pelican]

Outside of some solo stuff, it's a fairly terrible idea.
Even more so if you push for high skill tiers and then don't even utilize a shield lol

[flint arch]

i just prefer to kill fast. sure i die fast too, but does it matter if everyone's already dead

[noble pelican]

You aren't "killing fast" with that setup, compared to what's possible in terms of sustained/burst dps.
You effectively just give up damage for nothing, if you are still dying fast as well.

[flint arch]

i wasn't referring to that setup

i use striker with sacrifice and gift

[subtle bluff]

Content matters too.

[flint arch]

ngl escalation is the first time i've ever used striker chest

[lunar imp]

is the vector with killer really better than the dark winter?

[soft crane]

Dont think so.

[noble pelican]

Not a huge fan of Sacrifice over Equalizer tbh.

[livid sorrel]

there's like 3 different vectors

[soft crane]

All of them has same rate of fire.

[lunar imp]

meant the tac vector

[ivory abyss]

Is the dark winter not a vector?

[idle dragon]

what cool build i can do with ouroboros

[soft crane]

It is

[flint arch]

in cases where you can either use sacrifice or equalizer, sacrifice wins in terms of max potential damage but only very barely. the only noticeable benefit is that you don't have to stack sacrifice
you also need to hit headshots more, and then the obvious problem of +60% increased damage received

[ivory abyss]

It has perfect killer on it doesnt it lol

[soft crane]

Yes, +90% CHD if kills with crit.

[ivory abyss]

So is there something another vector offers vs dark winter? Im confused what hes asking

Does a regular vector with regular killer out perform a named vector with perfect killer?

[flint arch]

imo if you're just using a striker build or something you're not using an SMG as your primary

[soft crane]

Dont think so.

[flint arch]

in which case, talents like unwavering will provide more utility

[soft crane]

👋

[noble pelican]

The stacking is a complete non-issue, if we're talking about a striker setup.
It's on average 40 hits (assuming capped crit chance) and stays up for 10s; I'll gladly take that over a fractional dps difference.

[flint arch]

yeah it's not exactly a big improvement

[soft crane]

Wait, how do you work with Unwavering in a Striker build.

It gives 300% Weapon Handling.

[flint arch]

you only pull it out when, for example, your AR mag is empty and there's still an enemy in your face

[lunar imp]

curious why not back and forth or measured then

[grim bluff]

Put it on a spray and pray gun like SMG 9 and it makes it laser gun

[soft crane]

Weapon Handling increase accuracy?

[flint arch]

SMGs are close range weapons, and if you're running 6 red striker, you are very allergic to being close to the enemies

[grim bluff]

Yes, accuracy, stability, swap speed and reload

[grim bluff]

Everything in the 'weapon handling' section on your watch

[soft crane]

Ah ok. I thought it was just Stability, Swap Speed, and Reload.

[subtle bluff]

I run it in this clip

[noble pelican]

1% handling equals 1% swap, 1% reload, 1% stability and 1% precision

[livid sorrel]

tac vector 9mm with killer beats dark winter but not by much

[regal dock]

i got a question, would Test subject(the gun) would work good in skill build core strength?
because i got both capacitor and test subject as weapon

[flint arch]

but sir what will i do without my 1.12% damage difference

[flint arch]

i mean if you're going to use core strength you might as well use capacitor and yellow cores

[soft crane]

Interesting

[regal dock]

hmmmmm alright because i got red on some but mostly are skill tier

[dense pike]

the capacitor is so good at beefing your skill damage up

[soft crane]

20% higher with Capacitor iirc

[grim bluff]

For what? Buffing skills? Swapping off Test Subject removes the buff anyway. If you want to juice skills use something with Future Perfect for on demand overcharge, which will be easier to trigger since you have weapon damage from core strength. Then use capacitor as the main weapon

[dense pike]

I haven't used the capacitor in a long time but iirc the stacks stay for quite a while too

[regal dock]

any suggestion for secondary weapon??

[soft crane]

at max stack, but then again Test Subject doesnt need stack.

[grim bluff]

Test Subject is really nice to just land a quick hit from cover though and get 40%

[regal dock]

or should i just keep test subject as a backup?

[grim bluff]

Mechanical Animal for Future Perfection

[dense pike]

if you wanted to be really fancy you could do 4 yellow, cores, 1 skill tier from technician and then the tdi kard custom for a total of 6

[dense pike]

definitely, so good to have overcharge

[grim bluff]

Easy to get lots of overcharge with the seasonal active too

[subtle bluff]

Talents and things only apply when the weapon is in hand.

[noble pelican]

Worth pointing out that you're only lvl 6 with the KDI in hand, not all the time.

I've seen so many people sit at T5, camping their primary lol

[grim bluff]

TDI Kard is for non-skill builds to get an extra free core for revive hives or similar

[dense pike]

yep, just gotta remember to switch to it

[subtle bluff]

The difference to note between P. And normal is +1 more tier.

[regal dock]

noted, i'll try to check em out. so i just have to pull out the gun and use the skill for overcharge? assuming i got 6 already

[dense pike]

no the gun wont grant overcharge

[devout iris]

should i use the zero f's named chest piece on my red hf or just use a ceska chest piece here?

[grim bluff]

Yes, but it's easy to get and recommend and it's an easy to use archetype

[subtle bluff]

OC is good but not game changing depending on the skill.

[grim bluff]

But you're right just future perfect on any gun you like would work

[subtle bluff]

Sig 556 is bad.

[grim bluff]

Okay, can you explain why?

[subtle bluff]

It's sucks to use.

[grim bluff]

Thanks that really explained everything

[subtle bluff]

Pick up go shoot it in the range.

[dense pike]

they way you would use the kard would be if you are out of armor and cant really peek anymore to use your capacitor so you just swap to it stay in cover and buff your skills up a tier.

it still allows you to get to tier 6 (if in hands) but will also free up two skill cores in favor of armor or damage or both

or to keep it simple, you could just run around with the kard all the time as a pseudo primary weapon.

[grim bluff]

I've used it a lot, I'd appreciate say numerical justification instead of 'it feels bad' because that's entirely subjective

[dense pike]

real

its accuracy and recoil is so bad imo

[flint arch]

pretty slow fire rate

[dense pike]

you could, iirc zero f gives you full armor on armor break, not bad on a squishy build. It would allow you to not sweat as hard, give you a second chance too

[subtle bluff]

Again a few things here OC lets say Drone/Turret it’s boost in dmg isn’t worth just keep using Capa and getting it’s Skill DMG and doing more dmg because Capa does more than any other weapon when having Skill Teirs

[dense pike]

what i always did was got them to about 1 hp and then finished them with the mechanical animal.

[grim bluff]

Yeah you pop something with it and then switch back to capacitor, I don't see the issue?

[subtle bluff]

Ya in that sense famas does this better

[grim bluff]

Like you said you can put future perfect on anything anyway if you don't like a specific gun, because the difference is 4 seconds on the +tier buff

[dense pike]

real. honestly it is a waste of the perfect talent

[subtle bluff]

There’s only a few skills it’s some what worth. It’s fun on EP when you have hordes of ads to burn.

I use to run on TDI Kard on tech tank

Only used it for fun.

[dense pike]

the funniest imo is the seeker mine, when its overcharged it has like a 30m range its hilarious, like a small nuclear bomb lol

[subtle bluff]

I use other things to OC for seeker build

[soft crane]

Random question, whats a really underrated good build according to you?

[dense pike]

if i run seeker i run the gear set that resets the cool down when you use another skill. its just for memes but ill use the seeker then shoot an oxidizer to reset it

[subtle bluff]

HHF w/DCH

[soft crane]

What?

[subtle bluff]

HH HF w/DCH

[soft crane]

uhm, which stands for?

[dense pike]

headhunter, hunters fury idk about dch

[subtle bluff]

Dodge City Holster

[dense pike]

i have a meme pistol build that uses HH and determination and if you can get it to chain on challenging it just one shots everything but named enemies

[subtle bluff]

I dislike IA pistol

[dense pike]

btw, pistol builds are so underrated in general

infinite ammo, and the bulwark shield is lowkey indestructible at higher skill tiers, especially with the one talent that makes it invulnerable for 5 seconds

[dense pike]

which one is IA

[devout iris]

true, thought ill havew to get one with CHC and CHD and change the blue core to maybe red core

[dense pike]

you could, one less red core isn't the end of the world you will still do good damage

[devout iris]

i mean all my stuff is red core apart from the memento backpack

[dense pike]

well the yea fair id change it since you have momento

unless you were running crusader shield, then 2 blues, and a skill tier would be shield tier 3, if you run technician you could be at shield tier 4, not crazy strong but could offer a little more survivability

[devout iris]

actually, im using the striker ballistic shield here

[dense pike]

im know that shield is a little flimsy, ever core it gets is huge for its health.

if you wanted to completely suffer you could try to grind for a forge with cc or chd on it, but that would SUCK

or you could run the henri or pointman instead of zero fs

henri would give 20% more damage, which imo is inferior to the talent on pointman

pointman would give your shield invunerability on deploy and 50% bonus armor to you and allies

[devout iris]

i mean i do have pointman and i just use it if i want to run a solo climax mission on master difficulty here

[dense pike]

i really wanna test my build but it is terrible optimized at the moment lol

[devout iris]

also isnt the perfect companion only works if your near a skill or ally?

[dense pike]

yea that would definitely help at higher difficulties for sure. idk how people do high diff with dps builds tbh

[dense pike]

im pretty sure that the shield counts, but you'd have to double check

i ran henri on an old pistol build using the liberty but then again i always had a defender drone and was more focused on gameplay rather than whether or not the skill was working

[devout iris]

i mean the build that i have for master difficulty has chill out, pointman, a gila gear, a belstone and 2 improved gear, 4 blue cores and 2 red cores witrh CHC, CHD and PFE

[devout iris]

so it works if i pull out my shield here?

[dense pike]

iirc it does but def double check if you have the chestplate laying around, tbh i dont think the 20% would be worth the tons of countdown required.

[devout iris]

oh no i dont use HF in countdown, i just use it in open world

[dense pike]

very interesting

[devout iris]

as for henri i do have one still in my stash

[dense pike]

im saying to actually find a henri with cc/chd would take tons of countdown

i have terrible luck and it took me about 2 weeks to find one when i was playing on xbox

[devout iris]

well the one that i have has CHD and WH with a yellow core

[dense pike]

yep thats the issue i had, it always dropped with yellow core so trying to find one with cc/chd so i could role yellow off was actual purgatory

[summer totem]

@halcyon mauve i used this for a good while before switching the red attributes to skill damage

Capacitor basically enjoys bonus damage from both the invisible red core bonus and skill cores

[halcyon mauve]

What are the exotics here? @summer totem

[summer totem]

Capacitor and memento

You can play solo heroic with that build, set your modifiers to 50% skill damage and just let your drones do the job

[halcyon mauve]

I’ll need to get them. So far I either use st Elmo’s or agitator and for armor I only have a couple. I have ninja bike and the kneepads that make you not be staggered. Plus a couple mask and the btsu gloves. Basically I’ve just been running countdowns for currency for exotic caches

[summer totem]

Try going for memento backpack, trophies to pick up from kills to stack up to 30 that gives 30% damage, armor, and skill effeciency

Oh yeah @halcyon mauve do summit if you do the challenges you'll get the AR exotic i showed in the screenshot in the 5th prize iirc

[delicate field]

So I have a question. I just reached expertise level 30 and I need to farm exotic components for my blue screen. If I were to do that in countdown. I was also gonna make a build while in there so I’m not wasting my time. What should I go for a one shot sniper build, a healer build, shotgun,smg or a skill build? I would use them all. Thanks in advance

[halcyon mauve]

I’ve done summit once (only like 10 floors) but got a full striker set from it. How do you go about doing the challenges?

Summit was boring af lol

[summer totem]

Go to summit press M and check the challenges on top of the selection

[lone violet]

Sumnit-quality loot
Countdown-quantity

[halcyon mauve]

Appreciate y’all

[summer totem]

True that but i got most of my maxed out gears there. Also has better chance to drop exotics from my experience

[lone violet]

Retals can also be good I find them more fun tbh just the timer bothers me

[livid sorrel]

Summit and countdown have the same quality on the same difficulty

[summer totem]

Fair

[lone violet]

Here’s the thing people use drones at the start and end of countdown 😭

[halcyon mauve]

I’m assuming for summit you matchmake challenging like countdowns?

[lone violet]

Summit goes up to heroic iirc

Or legendary

[livid sorrel]

One shot sniper builds fall off in groups, drone and turrets get hacked in countdown

Healers are always nice but if everyone's good enough to avoid damage you kinda don't have much to do
Shotguns and SMGs work, but a lot of times they just get shot by the AR/LMG guys before you get in range

[summer totem]

One shot sniper builds and your enemies are outcasts

[halcyon mauve]

Hey I learned pretty damn fast to not use my drone when hunters are out lol

[delicate field]

I would be building them for other missions.

[summer totem]

Use the ox launcher for him and then switch to drone

[halcyon mauve]

Which one is ox launcher?

[soft crane]

Oxidizer, the purple one.

[livid sorrel]

misread lol, healers naturally don't work in solo, i'd recommend the sniper build so you can take it to control point farming

[halcyon mauve]

Gotcha

[summer totem]

Mb i meant

[delicate field]

Alright thanks. I appreciate the help

[summer totem]

The white one that ensares the enemies

[delicate field]

Does anyone know how many exotic components you need to fully expertise a weapon? As I’ve heard it’s pretty expensive

[summer totem]

Idk about expensive but you can wait for the proficiency exp events

Oh nvm you meant a fully expertise weapon mb mb

[livid sorrel]

they nerfed the exo comps needed iirc

[grim bluff]

45

[summer totem]

@livid sorrel do gear sets get occasionally nerfed in this game?

[soft crane]

Pretty rare from what i've seen.

[summer totem]

Thinking of investing everything into core strength

[soft crane]

The only nerf that I know is Strikers backpack, from 1% to 0.9%

[summer totem]

Making it my main build

[livid sorrel]

I've never seen one since I started playing, usually they're nerfed from PTS, but still not impossible

[hexed steppe]

What skills?

[summer totem]

What would you guys use as secondary gund for skill or hybrid builds that uses drone or chem launcher

[subtle bluff]

Last nerf / Balance Patch was in TU22. We’re in TU28

[hexed steppe]

Oxi or no?

[summer totem]

The fire one

[hexed steppe]

I assuming primary is capacitor

[summer totem]

Yes

[hexed steppe]

Insync shotgun, shotguns have dta, dta improves fire

[summer totem]

The trigger for insyc talent is per pellet?

[hexed steppe]

It doesnt matter. A hit is a hit

But yes, single pellet will trigger

[summer totem]

Nvm i forgot insync is not stack

[lone violet]

Everyone I go do countdown I take my trusty pestil coco

[hexed steppe]

Since its not oxi you can utilize mop named and get a free armor on kill stat while its in hand

[hexed steppe]

No, you take tier 6 mortar and stinger hive...

🔥 😈 🔥

[summer totem]

Dsmn wished i asked sooner

I put my maxed out mop for the DTA it had

[lone violet]

But the hunters will hack them at the start and end and im too lazy to be swapping loadouts

[summer totem]

In library

[hexed steppe]

Oh, i thought you were farming sacrifices for the great one. MB 😔

[summer totem]

Ngl the pvp in this game feels sweaty and needs a whole lot of running around

In the gun fight

[lone violet]

I wish to part take in the mortar fun but people in groups wanna run dps and I have to be stuck on refactor 💀

[devout iris]

i guess in the end might as well try out pointman on my HF that has blue core and CHC with CHD

[regal dock]

striker drone and assault turret

[hexed steppe]

Feel free to be selfish. I good mortar build can easy carry a lot of content. Higher level Escalations, countdown, retaliations, raids probably a nogo for mortar tho

[hexed steppe]

Capacitor+harmony

[regal dock]

everyone in my team : Hyper agressive DPS mf
me : alright, refactor it is. they aint gonna be alive unless i help with the armor
big ahh mood right there

[regal dock]

noted, biger damage on the harmony huh

[hexed steppe]

Harmony and test subject are same talent, harmony is a different ammo pool in case you run out of ar ammo

[regal dock]

ahhhh yeah that makes sense

[hexed steppe]

If you arent running 6 skilltiers on that setup, then the perfect insync will be more weapon damage, obv less skill damage regardless.
On 6 skilltiers cap is 45%wd, test subject is 40%. Cap drops 7.5% for every missing skilltier.

[lone violet]

is there a link build to it?

[hexed steppe]

In my bio I have a google doc of my builds. My mortar is mortar supremacy.
This is also in the pinned sheet in this channel 📌

[mortal jay]

which build do i go for first? a skill build set up from core strength? or an OD build?

[untold gorge]

I'm looking for someone who's willing to look into my progression so far and tell me what I should be doing next

[ivory abyss]

core str isnt that great for pve you would be better off just making one of the current skill builds

[lone violet]

i love seeing CS builds that uses NBB whichs makes me disregard the build as a whole

[smoky latch]

You should ask this in #ask-td2-community