td2-build-advice

[sterile chasm]

What do these color means on the build sheet?

[livid sorrel]

The color cores and therefore the role of the build

[lone violet]

Half the people don’t listen and still use every drone and people wanna go to VIP for whatever reason

[sterile chasm]

that makes so much more sense thank you

Guessing at some point I should have one of each?

[livid sorrel]

You don't really need blues(tanks) for like 99% of content

[soft crane]

@subtle bluff the hell is tech tank?

[sterile chasm]

Guessing the big 99% is strikers and Elmo? From what I hear

[livid sorrel]

Any DPS build, honestly. Striker's is just an incredibly strong and easy build

[sterile chasm]

Oh nice, what would yellow be better then? Besides Hunters I found out recently… using my the Rigger set the game gave me

[soft crane]

Yellow builds are mostly support.

Crowd control, healing, etc.

[sterile chasm]

ah not really solo made

[livid sorrel]

artificer hive and shield builds

[soft crane]

Oh ok

[sterile chasm]

So in my mind that would be if I’m in a group of 4 and 2-3 of them are using DPS, maybe I’d consider using yellow build

[livid sorrel]

Yeah, but nothing wrong with all DPS teams

[hexed steppe]

why are all the core strength ninjas taking naps in MMing

[sterile chasm]

ah I see, anytime I’d use yellow on my own?

[livid sorrel]

Turret/drone builds are decent in solo, Fire EP too iirc

[hexed steppe]

thought this was supposed to activate godmode

[mild dawn]

planking for that core strength

[livid sorrel]

because they can carry leggo in their sleep obviously

[hexed steppe]

i would take fire ep in group up to heroic tbh, the fire should spread even if team is doing minimal damage

[sterile chasm]

That’s what I thought with the Level 35 Rigger build the game gave me. I be hiding behind cover and clearing rooms

[hexed steppe]

youll refit that as a refactor build, and along with the damage, youll be providing your team with healing

[soft crane]

Theres even a DPS build that lets you support your team. Say hello to Ongoing Directive, also known as the stackless Striker.

Ongoing Directive practically giving the entire team infinite +20% damage buff. As long as you can maintain the marks that is.

[smoky latch]

The kills are important

[soft crane]

I'm sure peeps over 1K SHD are aware of OD marker. And should prioritize it over something else.

[mild dawn]

whole squad focusing on a singular enemy is a good idea if you like letting rest of the enemies do whatever they want

[soft crane]

Good point. Good OD user is to spray and mark as many enemies as possible.

Good thing theres no limit to how many mark you can apply.

[sterile chasm]

Excuse me if I’m wrong but this sounds like the skill version of heartbreaker I think it is?

[sterile chasm]

Oh man this game keeps on getting better, hate that I put it off for so long but I’m glad it’s going more popular

[hexed steppe]

no. with refactor the damage your skills do directly repair your teamates(and self) armor. with heartbreaker you stack up bonus armor, but its only for self and it goes away after a short time.

its a good way to heal and do damage

[sterile chasm]

Ohhhh the bonus armor in this case would only be if I was at full anyways

[livid sorrel]

and you can't get any more bonus armor if you're at full hb stacks

[hexed steppe]

no, you can get bonus armor when not full armor

[woeful zodiac]

Is there a good build with the Investor and Sheriff?

Or do I need to use the OverDogs with it?

[solar sable]

I guess reading is hard...

[frigid geode]

i was following a video guide

[solar sable]

Should've started with that.

[candid marlin]

Anyone got a good tinkerer rifle build ?

[solar sable]

look for OD in the pinned Spreadsheet

[candid marlin]

wdym by od ?

[solar sable]

Ongoing Directive

[candid marlin]

oh okay

od on a rifle build ?

[candid marlin]

alright

okay ty

[lone violet]

I find myself running refractor for retals cause everyone wants to go dps heavy

[grim bluff]

It's really fun to keep people up! Though it's taking a lot of time to learn good angles for the turret hah

And the drone sometimes likes to fly off and just disappear down an alleyway

Though nothing will be as janky as the artillery turret 😭

[sterile chasm]

how do I read this armor section when trying to do builds?

[grim bluff]

What's giving you an issue?

Is it the formatting? The first part in the list is the talent, the second part is the recommended brand. The items in italic are named items that have a fixed Perfect talent

[sterile chasm]

How do I get tech support on an empress though?

[shy willow]

The same way you get it on any other piece of gear?

Farm

[grim bluff]

Get lucky and have it drop with it, get a piece of gear that has skill damage + skill haste already and recalibrate the talent to tech support

[sterile chasm]

oh, so gold armor drops random talents like weapons and the attributes too?

[shy willow]

Yes

[grim bluff]

target farm empress brand on countdown, though personally I use Force Multiplier the named Hana-U backpack

[shy willow]

The only items that have fixed talents are named (most of them) and exotics

[woeful zodiac]

Is there a good Sheriff build with the Investor?

[sterile chasm]

I see a lot of countdown in my future in this game lmao

[grim bluff]

Yup, countdown and retaliation until your eyes bleed 🫡

[magic pilot]

Tbh retaliation is better for farming just lfg

[shy willow]

Not particularly

Investor is pretty mid for red builds especially with how annoying it is to farm an all red one

[hexed steppe]

I've found refactor+dps duo pairs well also, so this tracks 💯

[lone violet]

Gotta keep the team alive somehow 😭

[hexed steppe]

Fr

[woeful zodiac]

Just a normal good Investor build?

Atp I might go for a Tinkerer build

[shy willow]

Investor is much more valuable on blue and yellow builds

Take that as you will, there's not really a specific setup that benefits from it

[livid sorrel]

An all red investor is just a coyote's that's stuck on the close range buff with slightly less chd and some weapon handling on the side

[versed summit]

17% less CHD

[somber lark]

heyo, partner is running hotshot with Shroud, what stats should she be focusing on?

[analog mural]

u also dont have the global +25% chd

[solar sable]

HSD and WH

[somber lark]

Alright, I told her HSD but I didn't know what else, thank you

[strong cave]

I run eclipse foam and it works hilariously well

[lone glacier]

Went from Expertise 8 to nearly 22 so far from the event. Oh dear me

[hexed steppe]

probably a free skilltier not registering on your hud, but still active maybe

like brazos or pallisades

*bad habit, reading deleted msgs 😅 *

[lone glacier]

Named items are gonna be a pain

[hexed steppe]

did you get all this weeks from the vendors?

[lone glacier]

Got all the ones I could yeah. 3 more gearsets left to expertise then its just Skills, Named Items and Exotics

[hexed steppe]

skills are the worst

[lone glacier]

I miss my Reviver in Countdown sad

[fickle sparrow]

@lone glacier wear a strikers 4 piece and decent AR like police m4....then 2nd gun an exotic or named you need to proficent...then same with 1 gear part and a piostol if you can...same with 2 skills you dont normally play....that ll allow you to do decent damage while getting 5 pieces proficent at once...plus set targeted loot to gear system mods for printer filiment...oh and play countdown lol

[lost wren]

i just have no motivation to play after this update lol, the only things i’ve been wanting to do is farm for optimization materials and expertise

[lone glacier]

Been doing that since the event started

[modern jewel]

Hey everyone, I'm kinda new to the game, started like a week ago, reached level 40 and all and currently struggling to keep up with heroic retaliations and heroic countdown. Any build recommendations? ^^`

[fickle sparrow]

@modern jewel the new gear set core strength is new player friendly....3 pc of it either red core or yellow..your choice with ninja packpack...picaros holster blue core..and unit alloys....OR as just mentioned and prob easiest to farm is 4pc striker all red with equaliser chest piece and ceska or grupo pice....wear the striker backpack....maybe run 4 red cores/2 blue until you get better at game....any decent ar will with something like killer on it

[lone glacier]

Probably better off going 2 blue / 4 red striker than the new gearset

[fickle sparrow]

yeh the striker set up is prob 2-4 games of countdown to get at the most...or your really unlucky

[modern jewel]

Thanks a lot!! I'll be trying to get these then :>

[lone glacier]

But whatever you do, dont trust 99% of youtube build videos

[modern jewel]

I watched like 20 but they are all either 2 years old or say something different which is exactly why I came here

[charred cargo]

should I use this for shield build?

[modern jewel]

Dang never seen this rarity before

[native egret]

should i keep this for like a refactor build or anything that involves the technician specialization? i get a little extra armor and not lose a skill tier

[smoky latch]

Idk, I'd for yellow core personally

Then use it in a CC build

Refactor won't benefit much of it I'd say

[somber lark]

Or probably keep it with the armor but change the attributes to CHC and CHD

I'll go fk myself then /j

[clever merlin]

Just to confirm tinkerer doesn't work with versatile when you switch weapons?

Even if it's the same type of gun?

[smoky latch]

Idk, I just know it doesn't work with the new weapon talent apparently and also not with prototype gear

[gentle lichen]

tink doesnt even let your secondary use the talent

so it's an anti-synergy

also versatile simply doesn't accept using a weapon of the same type

[smoky latch]

Weapon switch builds in general are not really the best choice

[glad mauve]

streamline AUG assault rifle. change optimal range or streamline

[smoky latch]

Exception is Back and Forth on a weapon I might say, or the new exotic AR

[gentle lichen]

try to find a dtoc weapon so you can have a flexible talent
but for this time just swap optimal for dtoc

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[modern jewel]

Oh wow, thank you! I do love an elaborate guide, I appreciate it!!

[young wyvern]

hello guys is there an area where i can farm lexington?

[smoky latch]

Nope

Need to wait until it makes a return with a special event. Most likely another Stretch Goals event end of season.

Go farm a Police M4. Same weapon, just 4% base damage difference

[clever merlin]

I'm just confirming

Im using weapon swap build with all red or HF and it's been pretty fun

Just sucks when there's a sniper especially a named one lol

[smoky latch]

Yeah the use of those builds is a little limited

[clever merlin]

I don't mind

Better than tipping scales/striker/heartbreak imo

[jaunty harbor]

i like pestilence so much
can any1 please advise the best gear set for this gun

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WChAQCX06I4wgHd3iU0BuearJps2Lnr5wvLVehb8utY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[glad mauve]

is there a 7.62 extended mag bp

this fal is horrible

[glad mauve]

ty.

[strong cave]

youre better off looking into the AR variant of the AUG. you can get nearly 60 rounds with it

aug is also pretty damn accurate too

[lament reef]

Is FAL the one with the weird reticle and more recoil than a shotgun

[long dove]

do i pick something specific or i can obtain them all ? playing striker build

[smoky latch]

You will have unlocked all of them by 1k SHD

[patent fossil]

You'll get them all by shd lvl 999, early on crit chance is a good one to max first

[long dove]

thank you

[long dove]

can u tell me what to focus on the rest? im shd lvl 25 so i got 5 points for each category

[smoky latch]

CHC makes sense

[patent fossil]

The others aren't as significant, personally I'd go hazpro, reload speed and skill haste, but it's mostly personal taste

[lapis cliff]

Hey kettle, apologies for asking but some guy needs help in #ask-td2-community idk if you know the answer to his issue

[loud sleet]

Is there anyways to improve this build?

just trying to doo some bleed build as i got other builds done gotta try something new

[hexed steppe]

yes, by replacing it with a mortar setup

otherwise it looks fine

[loud sleet]

hmmm i should do an mortar build yes yes

sounds very fun you got a good example to start from i just like doing random build so why not do the mortar one too

[strong cave]

if you need more damage, use vigilance instead. just dont get shot. otherwise, wicked is perfect

[hexed steppe]

do i have a good example
ofc

btsu gloves, sacrifice chest, force multiplier bag. skill damage everywhere

capacitor and insync shotgun is a must

[loud sleet]

hmm gotta get some new builds done as i got few alr but gotta do something new with the mortar and the bleed one

Currently I got few damage builds one armor support build and refactor healer build so is there something else i should do I like trying new things so i dont get bored

[strong cave]

local here is going to kill me but look into headhunter builds w/determined

[loud sleet]

ty Ill try this one ❤️

[loud sleet]

Interesting one funny one could be an regulus build but for that I would need to get regulus #neveracomplishing that xddd

[strong cave]

regulus isnt needed tbh. you wont be farming for this exact build because its got unicorn pieces. but the overall setup is fine. just use hotshot mask/holster/kneepads with HSD. the chest and backpack will remain the same (chainkiller chest, airaldi backpack) with HSD/Handling. Talent on the backpack is Vigilance

if you want a 1 shot pistol build, look into this-

[loud sleet]

yeah true but it would be nice to have regulus but it takes good grinding and a good team

[strong cave]

or waiting until stretch goals because they now give those exotics away like candy

[loud sleet]

zamn otta wait for those then

[strong cave]

GC Rock raiders will take you through it easily tbh. i just hosted a dark hours one yesterday

[fleet rune]

WHAT IS THE BEST MODIFIER combo to use at the moment ?

sorry for caps

[loud sleet]

whats gc rock raiders?

[strong cave]

check your inbox, theres a link to the server. they have dozens of LFG channels that are more than happy to take on newbies for their runs

[loud sleet]

kay thaniks man

daymn i cant write anymore lol

[long dove]

thank you

[copper yarrow]

is this a good build for Backfire?

[merry stone]

i'll ask again is coyote mask better for dmg or overdogs gloves?

[copper yarrow]

gloves

[smoky latch]

Yeah works

[subtle bluff]

I'd give out both servers now. Cuz timezones.

[strong cave]

both servers?

[subtle bluff]

TheDivison amd GC

[copper yarrow]

Ty. Also would it be a good idea to try it with Nego?

[young wyvern]

any advises for this core strength build ?

[smoky latch]

Worsk

[lament reef]

normal strikers will would work for basically any gun with a medium-high RPM

[uncut yarrow]

personally i would say the only advice would be to never use it in PVE, or if you do, nothing above Challenging lol

[lament reef]

if you like, you can get a bunch of free hazpro from the seasonal thing so you don’t have to pay attention to the bleed thing as much

[lament reef]

use memento instead of the core backpack

also maybe farm it some more and get all red or all yellow so it’s less hybridy

[uncut yarrow]

itd be that and go for like, idek. Core gloves, core kneepads and salvo? or some other kneepads or something that work. some combination

[woeful zodiac]

Any good Sheriff Builds?

[smoky latch]

Sheriff is a good secondary, I would not build around it

[trail oar]

anyone know a good build for solo Leg content? thats hybrid tank regen and WP dmg?

[onyx sage]

full red works just fine

[solar sable]

that's not gonna get you anywhere without Modifiers in all honesty
it's not just about the build, it's about knowledge and patience

[onyx sage]

clearing it is more knowing the content and having enough damage to kill them before getting overwhelmed, not about trading damage

[trail oar]

ok

[solar sable]

oh and don't go to YT, you'll find the classic "GOD MODE PFE INSANE DPS FOR LEGENDARY"
You'll make the "build", try it, fail and then ask why it failed

[noble pelican]

My last experience as someone who loves consistent/safe solo builds has been a foundry setup that somehow sits at like 3.5m dps.

You easily sit at 6m+ glueing something together with similar EHP/regen lol

Or the example I had a few days ago; Someone showcasing "crazy damage solo".. in a clip where he's dumping 6 mags into a single elite, while a buddy sits in the corner, aggroing/debuffing with Mosquito.

[solar sable]

Using the range DPS meter is... not it lol

[noble pelican]

I've also seen people argue around dps numbers based on Buildstation.. a site that ignores any and all effects that aren't direct stat increases.

[solar sable]

those aren't recommended either
you gotta make the maths on a dedicated calculator

[noble pelican]

I'd highly recommend just looking at builds of people actually clearing in a decent amount of time, if you aren't interested in calcing it.

Just don't go to "build videos".

[solar sable]

Raucey's, Scooby's, iKia's... all of them are actually solid dedicated calculators

[nimble moss]

Build videos where people are playing in heroic missions as a 4 squad while people are debuffing... And claim it works in legendary solo. Then show me a complete legendary footage ? xD

[solar sable]

exactly, I don't want cutoff clips, I want the full and honest run

[subtle bluff]

Buildstation doesn't have dps numbers... Yet.

[subtle bluff]

Raucey being the simplest!

[nimble moss]

I know a french youtuber who has a "best build for all content cheated" every damn day xd

[noble pelican]

The "Calculation" tab pretty clearly shows what's supposed to be "Burst Dps", "Sustained Dps" and the like.

It just - so far - fully ignores any and all effects outside of direct flat stat increases and is thus completely pointless.

[solar sable]

what "effects" are you trying to sum to the calculation?

[noble pelican]

I'm pretty sure all effects outside of flat increases aren't included.

If you throw 4 pieces of striker into Buildstation and replace one of the pieces (breaking the effect) with any piece featuring the same subs, your dps is just the same.

You can't set a given amount of stacks (like you can set expected headshot/crit ratios in MX's tool) either; The entire effect just isn't implemented.

And it's not just Strikers; Buildstation fully ignores any other conditional/stacking/additional modifier based effect.

[flint arch]

it's not finished it seems

[noble pelican]

Which is fine.

It just makes it hilarious to see people arguing around builds based the numbers it presents.

[solar sable]

That's why some people took their time to figure out how to consider uptime and conditional stats via math
Division 2 is a math heavy game, you have to find the equations to get accurate numbers based on what you mentioned

[solar sable]

Because math speaks facts, math is accurate

[noble pelican]

I'd argue that the game isn't more "math heavy" than comparable games; The biggest issue is honestly just clarity when it comes to additive vs multiplicative modifiers and similar situations.

[noble pelican]

The entire explanation up there highlighted that math in this case is not accurate. lol

[solar sable]

I never said Division was the heaviest game in history, I said it is heavy

[noble pelican]

Let me rephrase my reply; It isn't heavy compared to similar games.

Equipment-based shooters in general can be fairly complicated, however, that's true.

[solar sable]

I mean you can get why it isn't accurate, it isn't finished

[noble pelican]

Which is why it doesn't make sense to argue how "good" a build is, based on the numbers it presents you.

That's.. exactly what has been said minutes ago.

[subtle bluff]

It's a WIP atm.

[solar sable]

plus it is leaving behind some stuff for simplicity, unfinished in all sense of the word

[subtle bluff]

What is going on here.

[noble pelican]

The discussion is somehow running in a circle.

[solar sable]

I'm trying to... understand this conversation lol
It's hard for me to process the math part of the game

[solar sable]

Yeah, it must be my ignorance talking
I'm not being sarcastic, I just haven't spent time learning Division meth

[noble pelican]

Just to simplify it;

• Some content creators argue their buildis good, based on buildstation links/screenshots showing a given burst/sustained dps
• Buildstation isn't calculating these numbers correctly currently

It was just an example on "Just don't follow the average content creator", not me trying to throw shade at Buildstation.

I do believe a notice about these effects missing would resolve this whole issue, however. lol

[solar sable]

welp, I wouldn't recommend using Buildstation for maths until it's finished
I would rather use Scooby's or iKia's

[noble pelican]

I wish the dummy would actually be accurate, would simply checking stuff in-game while being able to swap around easily.

Sadly it isn't.. by a lot sometimes.

[solar sable]

I don't get how Range measures DPS

[noble pelican]

It sometimes just doesn't. See; #td2-build-advice message

[subtle bluff]

Content creators….. Do you have a link to one of these guys? The dev needs to know he needs to put warning on his DPS

[proper kindle]

whats more important on a Determination Sniper?
Damage to Armor or Damage to Target out of Cover?

[solar sable]

Always DTOC

[proper kindle]

why? how much that increases the DPS?

[subtle bluff]

10%

[solar sable]

DPS isn't the wording for snipers, it's just DMG*

Not everything in the game has Armor, Hounds are all health
DTOC is a... 10% multiplier in the equation

[subtle bluff]

Oh lol Sniper build DPS.

Above and also 6 vs 10

[copper yarrow]

What makes the hollow man such a good piece?

[subtle bluff]

Context?

[copper yarrow]

Lately seeing a lot of people use it on tier 6-7 escalations

[kindred mango]

For the damage to health attribute on it

[strong cave]

caw caw thats why

[copper yarrow]

Oh okay. Where can I learn more about dmg to health vs dmg to armor? I mean which enemies have what haha

[neon zealot]

white bars over enemy's health is armor

[subtle bluff]

Yes because when it’s proto threat DTH is rather big.

[neon zealot]

actually, does dmg DTA increase dmg to armor plates at all?

[urban latch]

Gotta love the clear as mud naming system in div

[kindred mango]

It’s for enemies who don’t have armour plates like chungas/heavies and warhounds (shoot the legs for dth)

[neon zealot]

huh always thought DTTooC was in the same table as DTA/DTH, good to know

[manic bough]

Hello there! I got question for an item choice!

• Tipping Scales with BP and chest
• Tinkerer Mask
• two GR9 with frenzy and optimist
• fox prayer

Would the contractor gloves be more damage than fox prayer?

[flint arch]

use equalizer chest instead

the TS chest technically has the highest damage potential of all chest pieces but it also takes an extremely long time to stack, you're better off just using a high-end chest with a high-end talent, the damage ceiling will be lower but your upfront damage will be higher

[lunar imp]

if the dummy in game doesn’t actually show the right damage numbers then do you have to manually calculate your dps?

[subtle bluff]

Yes or! You can go the first pinned message and use that to get your dps.

[lunar imp]

thanks and i found ikias channel but can’t find scoobys do you have a link?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages here… Top right on Desktop

[lunar imp]

lol thanks

[subtle bluff]

Maybe there’s on in the build hub.

IKia server should have it some where too.

[subtle bluff]

The point was that the Calculator in the Pinned Messages is very quick and easy to use

[lunar imp]

i gotchu i wanted to see the content on their channel

[languid zenith]

Messing around with saint elmos engine and eclipse, are there any good damage build for eclipse?

Maybe something can try using in escalation

Doesn't have to be elmos engine but definitely eclipse damage

[subtle bluff]

In the build hub there a guide for it

[dull drum]

best build for escalations?

[lament reef]

yeah
either burn damage or foam CC build

[subtle bluff]

EP burn isn’t good past heroic

[lament reef]

the burn damage has a super low ceiling and the foam CC requires you to know spawns pretty well

[subtle bluff]

Striker

[full prairie]

How could I push this further

[subtle bluff]

Not using CS or NBB

[lament reef]

it’s yellow CS at least

if you want to keep using CS, use memento over ninja

probably drop the wyvern mask

actually idk how good salvo is here

[subtle bluff]

not much.

then again it's a CS build 😐

[sterile chasm]

For the Level 40 starter build is this what it was asking for?

the core attribute is weapon damage

[lament reef]

Yes, that’s the right piece.

[sterile chasm]

sick, so once my stats get to 50% CHC I should find pieces with CHD for the rest right? Seems a bit hard considering this had 5%

[faint thunder]

what is the best modifier (global) for striker?

[tacit hamlet]

The calculator has been a WIP for some time as we have been adding other things to Build Station but this has now been fixed and being updated as we speak!

[faint thunder]

HS/mag size/handling? or mix of HS and mag size

[tacit hamlet]

Thanks for the feedback!

[lament reef]

yeah but you will probably not hit 50% when you are just starting out

aim for 1:2 crit chance to crit damage

[grim bluff]

Mag size lets you pump stacks easier, but handling lets you land hits easier to get those stacks

[lament reef]

once you start filling up your library, you can tinker and swap that hazard protection to crit damage

[sterile chasm]

wait, so if I had another chest piece with +5.2 crit I could rip it and make this +10.4 crit chance?

[lament reef]

no you can’t do duplicate

A high end (yellow) armor has two unique attributes

[sterile chasm]

oh wait, I misread, but i'd had armor pieces with double stacking crit chance and dmg right?

[grim bluff]

No, you consume a stat off an item and that's your new max in your library. So you find a chest with +4% crit you can put +4% crit on another item in a slot, then if you find a +6% crit then consume that it becomes your new max to recalibrate to

That'd be mods

[lament reef]

yeah you can put any mod in that you want

[sterile chasm]

im lost, how would I be removing that hazard protection?

[lament reef]

so all the spare armor you get can be harvested and you put its stats in your library

for example you get some random blue core armor with 10% crit damage, you can put that in your library and then put 10% crit damage onto your equalizer

[subtle bluff]

The guide should have pic and explain how it works..

[sterile chasm]

oh I see, I can extract core attributes it seems

seems a lot of mine are weapon damage though sadly

OH I SEE NOW, thank you

[lament reef]

there we go

[sterile chasm]

it's like Legos 🙂

[tacit hamlet]

Preview...

[faint thunder]

anyone ? 😄

[tacit hamlet]

Would take all feedback on the numbers as we're here to get these numbers out to the community that are correct! (-:

[sterile chasm]

Awesome 🙂

Now I didn't understand it fully, can I max those bars somehow? with better mods when I find them.

[smoky latch]

It always depends on your build and gear in this game. Currently running HSD but I really like the WH for most my loadouts. Some benefit from mag size. Try stuff out

[smoky latch]

You're able to optimize, yes

[lament reef]

You can optimize them, and for the slot you swapped you can swap it again when you get a higher value in your library

[dense roost]

oh my god its real

wow this gun is so pretty

[faint thunder]

its a standard Striker + st elmo

[smoky latch]

Elmo is a laser and has no damage talent. Go for HSD maybe

[faint thunder]

yeah what was thinking tbh

[frozen hull]

Congrats on the drop

[frozen hull]

Congrats !!!

Know it’s not the optimal gun but I just love how it looks ahha i use it all the time when im doing controller points

[vague zodiac]

Only go for DTOC no.1, CHC no.2, CHD no.3 in this game.

[smoky latch]

Sir, we were talking about seasonal modifiers. Not the 3rd attribute on Elmo

[lone glacier]

Best thing you can do for most DPS setups.

[uncut yarrow]

so when catharsis says it heals 5% of max armor for 10s, is that 5% over the 10s? 5% per second? just 5%?

[soft crane]

5% over 10 seconds i think.

[uncut yarrow]

that sounds horrible for healing lol especially if you run a dps build where if you take more than like 3 hits you get killed. but, up to 45% bonus damage doesnt sound too bad

[solar sable]

it's only worth in pvp when running 6 blues

[uncut yarrow]

thats what its seeming like lol

just looking to make a fun Iron Lung build but its looking like fun is more towards the meta side rather than unique and interesting side

tipping scales, iron lung, overdogs, equalizer, and we'll whip out some Dark Winter for shits and giggles

exodus is a full heal if im in cover every 40 seconds but would i rather do that or 30% more dmg to certain enemies

[shy willow]

Iron lung is a really simple gun so you don't really build around it

Just throw it on a DPS setup and it'll work

[uncut yarrow]

yea im gonna try this new setup i made and see how it feels

we got +40% weapon handling goin with the modifier right now too so it should feel pretty solid

all these damn retaliations are always Hyenas dude

[shy willow]

The agitation meter builds faster depending on who you fight

[sinful tinsel]

has anyone used this ikia techtank build

[uncut yarrow]

ah, Heartbreaker build #3 in the selection

[solar sable]

any iKia build is 100% valid, he was our goat... 💔

[sinful tinsel]

did he quit?

[solar sable]

yeah, he did before new season dropped

[sinful tinsel]

guessing cuz of the prototype crap

[solar sable]

bingo

[sinful tinsel]

yeah if i had something else to play id probably quit

[uncut yarrow]

this is the most and longest ive actually like played the game

been back for like 3 or 4 weeks now and ive been going at it pretty decent

[solar sable]

I'll be honest, I also doubted if I wanted to stay or leave but I sincerely just decided to move on and see Proto as an extra, an option, I care more about build diversity (actually useful) and funsies than staying on the same build. I did that when I was on xbox and I got burnt out in less than 4 months which I regret doing bc I only cared about meta, I still do but less now

Anyways, don't burn yourself that quickly, search for diversity and fun as I mentioned

[languid zenith]

So in my friend group we have 2 damage dealers 1 is striker the other is Negotiators dialemma, we have a healer, im trying to find a good build to fit in for escalation, would an ongoing Directive one be good to use to help them with extra damage?

Ive tried about every gear set out now 😂

[lone violet]

striker

[plain nova]

Looking for advice on an OD LMG build .... Running thinkerer. Stoner LMG with max mag as primary. Talents being pressure point and sadist or strained and pressure or sadist???

[noble umbra]

Can swap exodus for overdogs or keep tinkerer. This build SHREDS tho. Highly recommend checking it out

[languid zenith]

Could also do Ridgeways pride no?

Just asking, seen a few people with it

[noble umbra]

if you want to build into a tankish build , then go for it. But OD chest piece amplifes hollow point to 50 instead of 30 or whatever it is

[languid zenith]

Ah okay

[noble umbra]

20 to 50, which is insane

[subtle bluff]

WIcked would better.

Just free 95% uptime.

[flint arch]

no. the problem is at high tiers, the enemies are just way too tanky and you can't refresh your hollow-point ammo

with OD you need to be able to reliably kill human enemies within one mag. that's just not possible, or at least extremely difficult, at higher tiers

[shy willow]

On kill talents really suffer in high tier and/or group escalation

[flint arch]

and if you lose your hollow-point ammo, you deal way less damage, so your contribution becomes way worse

[subtle bluff]

ND can work but need to know how to rav.

[noble umbra]

yeah only problem i have with OD

[subtle bluff]

The only way to do OD for harder imo Tinkerer Sadist/Frenzy.

[flint arch]

you repeated imo twice in the same sentence, sir

[subtle bluff]

BLEH

[flint arch]

my unused OD build still uses The Gift because i cba to find a wicked UA backpack

[surreal shell]

Pestilence any good

[flint arch]

good, though to fully utilize its effect you need to build for it
pesti guide

[surreal shell]

Just got it drop from dmz zone

[smoky latch]

DZ?

[versed summit]

Isnt ceska still better tbh

[flint arch]

idk

i didn't like using OD anyways so

[lament reef]

you should try again

like it just feels good and works

even better right now while we have 135% hsd for free

[versed summit]

What does that have to do with OD

[lament reef]

secure kills easier

[lone glacier]

More damage

[candid cave]

Anyone got a pvp bighorn or eb build?

[candid cave]

Priciate it

[modest citrus]

My build is more for DZ, works in conflict too but not focus on it.

[candid cave]

Ya i got a pve build i just want a good pvp one

[candid cave]

What named items are those?

If they are any

[modest citrus]

No named only the brand set and the exotic

[candid cave]

Alr

Could i use a named chest tho?

[modest citrus]

Yeah sure, the goal is to get the bonus from the 3/3

[candid cave]

Alr cool thanks

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X87BwJv-I_58WAQh_bSDXRKNLBHTOi9Wtt4Bs6Pv7bY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.sztdj4iywieh
Scroll down a bit

(Can be found in the spreadsheet pinned in this channel)

[candid cave]

Im not a starter i just want a bh build💔

[lone wadi]

its literally on the third page of the doc

[candid cave]

Ohh

[flint arch]

i mean it says starter guide but you don't have to be a starter to take notes from the builds shown

[candid cave]

I cant its like bugged

[hazy steeple]

It's called a "starter" guide, because it helps you get started with the builds in PvP.

You don't have to stretch out the spreadsheet.

[candid cave]

Any chance u could ss the build cuz the page is bugged

[smoky latch]

There is another version with 3x Golan. Your call

Instead of HazPro you can also pick Armor Regen

[candid cave]

Alr ima do regen ya

[smoky latch]

Instead of Matador you could use a Gila bp and use Emperor's Guard kneepads instead

Find your sweet spot and have some alternative pieces ready to react to other players' builds

[reef idol]

Anyone know any pve builds thats able to use any exotic weapon?

[lone wadi]

you should pick hazpro instead of regen

[hazy steeple]

Exotics are all build-specific, they aren't like, a better tier of stuff.

[flint arch]

nemesis on my striker build sounds cursed

[gentle lichen]

good hotswap

[hazy steeple]

Mantis for infinite decoy on Striker.

[lone glacier]

I'm dying inside

[dusty sorrel]

I had never played as a Healer before; it's actually quite fun. That's my build.

[plucky echo]

you mind me asking what is the backpack you use and the talent?

[dusty sorrel]

Sure, give a sec. I just turn off the game

[solar sable]

Perfect Opportunistic

oh wait what it isnt Opp

[gentle lichen]

Try using the setup backpack

[gentle lichen]

Safeguard but honestly your heals are more than enough without it

[solar sable]

tbh you dont need more repair skills, go The Setup

[dusty sorrel]

oh I will try that thx

[dusty sorrel]

Thanks for the feedback, I'm experimenting, that helps

[solar sable]

your teammates will love the 15% amp

[subtle bluff]

Did I hear FI?

[hazy steeple]

You mistyped it and forgot to put the red version.

easy mistake, happens all the time.

[gentle lichen]

Did someone say red FI

[subtle bluff]

I need to make that build. I have a new idea.

[hazy steeple]

It's honestly just so much fun being a murder doctor.

that it's effective on top of its fun is just icing on the cake.

[silver coral]

striker set gives 65% weapon damage without armor?

[flint arch]

me

[obtuse shoal]

Do people really main true patriot?

[shy willow]

65 percent amp without the bag and chest

[flint arch]

if your only source of builds is div 2 yt clickbait, yes

[silver coral]

so its bigger than obliterate then

[flint arch]

otherwise, no, nobody uses TP anymore

[shy willow]

Yeah but obliterate is a single piece so it's not comparable

[shy willow]

TP users aren't real

[flint arch]

doesn't obliterate only affect TWD as well unlike striker which is an amp

[shy willow]

Yes

[silver coral]

twd?

[flint arch]

total weapon damage

[solar sable]

that

[silver coral]

im debating between striker chest or soklov chest with memento backpack

[flint arch]

confusingly, it is unrelated with base weapon damage, specific weapon damage, and all weapon damage

[solar sable]

Soko

[dusty sorrel]

I was testing this in case anyone is interested; it's a total destroyer. And the backpack functions just like Memento (but you avoid having to pick up the trophies).

You can use whatever weapon you want; I use the FAMAS and the MPX for the aesthetics. xD

[fair dragon]

"functions just like Memento" lol

[dusty sorrel]

You have to try it.

[flint arch]

ah yes, "memento" but without the long-term buffs and 2 additional cores

[fair dragon]

where's the skill tier

[solar sable]

if this is for normal content, I wouldnt advice using strikers vest

[fair dragon]

it's a solid build, but to say "functions just like Memento" is inaccurate

[dusty sorrel]

Yup. It's just that I like trying out weird things that work with different playstyles.

[nimble moss]

Curious, which backpack is it ?

[dusty sorrel]

I know it doesn't work exactly like the Memento, but it gives you a similar protection buff.

[flint arch]

solid mechanic

[solar sable]

looks like Liquid Engineer

[solar sable]

close enough

[dusty sorrel]

yup that one

I just thought it was fun; it gives you a lot of versatility.

[flint arch]

i prefer being more than just a "total destroyer" and use a vigilance backpack to kill enemies even faster

the survivability comes from your enemies being dead and unable to shoot you

[nimble moss]

Ah yeh I see. Doesn't you miss a lot of damage from striker backpack ? I mean, I can understand for solo content that aren't high bullet sponge though.

[dusty sorrel]

Of course, this is a build for playing on Heroic—not for a Legendary run.

[flint arch]

well at least you acknowledge it

[nimble moss]

I'd prefer taking my 20 secs revive hive in heroic and run and gun 🤣

[flint arch]

seen at minimum one person show their FB + NBB build and claim it shreds legendary

[nimble moss]

But I can understand

[livid sorrel]

either they're really good(unlikely), getting carried(most likely), or dragging it out for an hour

[flint arch]

there was a long argument between a guy and chow here over it

[livid sorrel]

i swear there's always someone arguing over it

[flint arch]

now it's taken the form of core strength builds

[drifting cargo]

what is the best band aid solution in striker build for the chest ? im using coyote mask for the exoctic armor and backfire for primary weapon , havent found any secondary yet

[next dawn]

equalizer is a solid chest to use

[drifting cargo]

is easy to farm huh ? let me try thanks

[next dawn]

Same as any named item

[lament reef]

for secondary, you can farm shotguns until you get an ACS-12

not for damage, but to ramp up stacks instantly

[rare trout]

For striker and tipping scale builds with equalizer and overdogs, what's the best hot swap gloves replacement for overdogs? For rooms like legendary capitol boss room where you can't really proc it

[next dawn]

Huh Overdog will still proc as if there isn't any tier 3 it will jump to tier 2 ect till there no enemies left

[buoyant perch]

Yes, the lowest tier currently on the battlefield

[next dawn]

Yes ik that.... just wondering why someone would hot swap it

[buoyant perch]

Right, I miss that part of the convo. So for that particular boss room, there are healing boxes scattered around so you can't really get to tier 2 and 1. So if you want to be optimal, you can choose something like ceska to swap to.

[rare trout]

thanks! if i don't want ceska since that messes up current chc (near cap), i should do grupo instead?

[buoyant perch]

Yes

[next dawn]

Ik the boss room I just dont find a reason to hot swap instead of just using emp to disable/kill the healing stations I personally don't find the need to hotswap but meh

[buoyant perch]

I mean I don't swap either cos they die all the same. But the boxes are scattered around and I don't destroy them all.

[next dawn]

I usually run a tank build for that room so I just run around destory the boxes

[sullen heart]

How is umbra initiative in pve? Especially master and possibly escalations?

[solar sable]

not worth, Strikers will always be king

[next dawn]

Not for high endgame but fine for casual

[civic meteor]

Equalizer chest or striker chest?

[solar sable]

subjective answer, what content?

[soft crane]

Equalizer chest most of the times.

[next dawn]

Casual play equalizer , legendary, escalation ect use striker

[soft crane]

Only Escalation.

[next dawn]

Agree to disagree

[soft crane]

Legendary isnt needed.

[civic meteor]

Just a general one

[subtle bluff]

If you have to question then equalizer. If you know without a doubt you can stack and keep shooting for long enough sure then.

[civic meteor]

I know I may have asked this before but uh is a 40-45% CHC an acceptable amount?

Esp when your fire rate is 1125 and have a 50 mag

Using chameleon and I don’t wanna like rely on the talent but I’ve been thinking of swapping out the chest for striker and the mask for coyote to get the CHC

[next dawn]

Not really you really want 50%+

[civic meteor]

Aww ok

I’ll move some stuff around maybe then

[subtle bluff]

To note other reason is better buff body proc the HS isn't that big of a buff.

[crystal lantern]

hay does anyone have a new player friendly lmg build?

[hazy steeple]

@soft crane Enough with the meme pictures.

[soft crane]

you're no fun

Besides, theres not even a meme chat available.

[hazy steeple]

Image-permissions on this server are a gift from the admins, if they're used poorly, they'll take them away.

[soft crane]

Anyway here, use LMG with big mag and has high rate of fire.

[hazy steeple]

That build is fine, just swap the 2nd LMG for say, a fast-firing SMG.

you need something that can quickly build stacks on a Strikers build.

[soft crane]

Thats Sleipnir, just trying to grind for its proficiency.

[hazy steeple]

IIRC smg-9 is the current meta option.

If it's a deliberately bad build, don't use it as an example to someone asking for help.

[soft crane]

You know the only thing wrong with that build is just the MG5 and even then its a decent LMG for Striker.

[hazy steeple]

It's a decent LMG, but that build has no stack-building weapons, which are critical on a Strikers.

no stack building = you might as well use something else.

[soft crane]

What you talking about? Thats Alejandro I'm using.

[hazy steeple]

it's got a solid fire-rate, but I still wouldn't suggest it for stacks.
It's good to get good habits early on for div2.

[plush thistle]

which smg 9 or does it matter? converted or a2?

[solar sable]

ignore the replica part, theyre the same

[plush thistle]

gotcha ty ill customize this one and give it a shot ill toss the a2 out then 1 less thing in my stash

[hazy steeple]

If you throw Unwavering on it as your secondary striker weapon, you can pop out the SMG, get the stacks built up fast, then swap back very quickly.

[plush thistle]

lol ok idk if i'm tired or just trippin on the word play but unwavering i swap to secondary smg 9 get 300% weapon handling swap to primary lose buff if i kill someone then swap to primary would i keep the buff?

[sharp folio]

How does prototype gear work?

[solar sable]

https://youtu.be/VNEbkHq6NyU?si=ZeJfeHRmQmliuz8Y

[sharp folio]

Alright thanks

[flint arch]

it rips your hair out from frustration

[sharp folio]

I don't have any hair anymore so uh

[hazy steeple]

Unwering goes on the SMG, the primary has a damage talent, like Killer.
the idea is that you swap to the smg > stack up > swap backl and your killing with the LMG should be able to keep it topped up.

[solar sable]

you grow it now, just like Henry Cavill did with his arm reload on that movie

[plush thistle]

oh the smg's purpose is just striker stacks at beginning of fight got you

is it faster than the acs - 12? i never paid attention if shotguns worked per pellet or per round for striker stacks

[subtle bluff]

The new talent actually may not be bad now too.

[hazy steeple]

I actually have had a hell of a time looting that to test it out.

[plush thistle]

back and forth?

[worn charm]

Im kinda missing the point of saying alejandro is bad for stacks and then recommending a slower firing smg to build stacks. Unless im missing something

[plush thistle]

your getting to use a talent on another gun which increases the damage in total

[hazy steeple]

The talent on the SMG is massively better for it, as you can swap to it, get some stacks built up, then swap back incredibly fast.
It's saved my life a few times.

And with this season and WH built up via the modifier, it's almost too fast.
300% was actually enough.

[plush thistle]

the insta reload is pretty cool

[hazy steeple]

I like using that smg burst to break some red weakpoints too, can help distract the enemies without using a skill.

[next dawn]

Shotguns works per pellets

[next dawn]

Looks tasty

[plush thistle]

max stacks smg 9 unwavering 10-11 mil dps 53 rounds 1 mag and 10 - 11 mil dps 53 rounds 1 mag BNF now BNF still plays a buff on primary so i'm assuming its better

i miss the insta reload thou

[next dawn]

Can we just make the acronym for back and Forth BNF

I had a stroke reading that Reaper

[plush thistle]

lol sure i'm fine with that

[next dawn]

We got to go back and forth from back and forth to back and forth

Ty much love

[hazy steeple]

B&F would be a lot clearer.

[subtle bluff]

Me tooo

[next dawn]

But I'm too lazy to press shift+7

[plush thistle]

i feel objectively instead of focusing on damage the insta reload would probably be better to help maintain stacks for striker which would inturn be more stable damange instead of burst damage is that the main difference or am i looking to deep into this....

[hazy steeple]

You've started to circle around to the other side of div2: "how many meta's does it take to change a lightbulb?".

[next dawn]

I see your point striker has a slow stack decay so I don't really see the reason to pick it up but insta reload is nice

[plush thistle]

well i was considering if one used the chest along with the backpack in raids and such it might be better due to the double decay for stacks but idk the math as i rarely ever use the chest but was a thought

btw thanks rivens appreciate this upgrade lol feels way better

[next dawn]

I mainly run striker with chest and I personally find it easy to keep the 200 stack even without BnF but I'll give it a run a see how it compares

[subtle bluff]

Choosing a secondary is a preference on the player and their playstyle. Generally the thought is it covers the weakness of the primary.
So Elmo it has poor burst and SMG would cover that.

[plush thistle]

what do you use for a secondary?

[next dawn]

Stockbroker

[plush thistle]

ah the thing i have never seen lol

[fair dragon]

that's because Stockbroker is a profession

[next dawn]

It's just an ACS 12 that has a higher rof exchange for damage

It's fun dumping 160 pellets into a guy in less then 3 seconds

[plush thistle]

i know just never got one; i got an acs 12 with well everything i want just never got a chance to try stack broker out

[next dawn]

Hopefully stretch goal caches will drop them

[plush thistle]

iz all good i get what i get lol if i stress over something like a gun i wouldnt be able to play half the games i own haha

[next dawn]

Lol

[plush thistle]

took me 329 shd levels to get memento

[next dawn]

Huh that's quite a bit

[plush thistle]

oh i got something worse how bout 780 shd for scorpio lol

well anyways thanks to the update i got my hands on several exotics i couldnt get my hands on

[next dawn]

I mean if you aren't actively looking for an exotic then it is gonna take a while to get

[plush thistle]

i did target loot for about 92ish shd levels and stopped i got 190 something parts of exotics so wasnt like i wasn't getting exotics but the majority was what i had already

my acitivities ranged from outposts to countdown i didnt repeat manhunts and i didn't participate in iron horse or get into dark zone much (part of the reason i went with hotshot as my first build)

[next dawn]

lol

Hotshot as a first build is quite interesting

[plush thistle]

striker was 2nd after attempting countdown saw very quickly that HS ain't gonna work lol but for me HS has always made outposts and now retaliations a piece of cake

[next dawn]

i see

[slim bay]

Am i crazy or do sniper builds really fall off as you go up in difficulty?

i feel like you are boxed into using headhunter and determined, and in higher difficulties it can feel impossible to get the ball rolling cause of all the armor

[subtle bluff]

Only in higher Teir escalation.

[subtle bluff]

It's just gameplay and knowledge is the rest of it.

[slim bay]

care to explain further?

cause ur kinda just saying "skill issue"

[strong cave]

He's kinda not wrong. Plus target prioritization is key. If you know someone has a helmet but you have no stacks, you have no choice but to ignore that enemy until you get stacks w/ HH

Or if you're being outright attacked, break their helmet and kill em. Keep the ball rolling

[slim bay]

my point is more along the lines that on the highest difficulty they all have armor and you dont have the same chances to build stacks compared to usual

[strong cave]

I can use HH builds just fine without determined (Nemesis user here) on Legendary

[subtle bluff]

That. Thanks...

[strong cave]

To be fair I have yet to see anyone try to take a headhunter build into escalation

[clever merlin]

anyone here have a cover build?

like you sit in cover to get bonuses type of build

[strong cave]

Staying in 1 place is usually always a bad call

[subtle bluff]

It hits a hard limit at a point due to scaling.

[slim bay]

good for you bro, my point isnt that its impossible but that it falls off in comparison to other builds...

[strong cave]

Correct, which is why I see most people run it with LMGs because more damage per mag compared to something that requires getting kills

[livid sorrel]

Umbra is half sit in cover to get buffs, half get out of cover to get buffs

[clever merlin]

can move but stay in cover build like with composure etc

[strong cave]

Eesh yeah don't bother with that composure talent. It's booty cheeks

[subtle bluff]

I mean that's 4 man legendary which is the peak of what it can do.
You see the priority of what he's being shot first for HH

[strong cave]

God forbid somebody pushes your cover and you have to get out of it. Damage goes bye bye

[slim bay]

this is what i was looking to confirm, that it is indeed just generally better to build for something other than snipers just cause its easier/more efficient

[strong cave]

Well, when your enemy pool has like 500% more armor and health, MMRs take a nose dive off a cliff. Which is why you aren't seeing Toastey and all them running with MMRs

We've already power creeped MMRs with Overdogs and Shroud/Nemesis. Still won't be enough to 1 shot past a certain point

[livid sorrel]

they were talking about an endgame mode with like 5x enemy health, in most cases a headhunter build works fine

[slim bay]

and all the armor break abilities are lowkey cheeks to use xD

[slim bay]

thats the exact type of content i came here asking about

[strong cave]

Sadly on escalation, LMGs are the go to for just mag size/mag damage alone

[onyx sage]

to be honest it's such specific content with specific builds it's hard to know if you meant exactly it or legendary/raids/incursion/retaliations which all mostly use the same builds

[slim bay]

yeah ive noticed and am already using a pestilence build for 90% of my high difficulty content

[onyx sage]

escalation is not remotely comparable to the rest of the game

[strong cave]

I basically look at it as missions but you make them exponentially harder since they still use heroic AI

[onyx sage]

the builds you use in escalation you wouldn't use in legendary for example, and the opposite is also false obviously

[strong cave]

Correct on that. How's tipping doing in terms of escalation? Or is everything just "striker"?

I'm not afraid to say it, I've only done up to tier 3

[onyx sage]

i haven't tried tipping but the long windup is gonna kill it

i haven't done tier 10, but got to tier 8, frenzy lmg and backfire is the play for me

[strong cave]

Iron Lung might have a spot for the long windup, then insta swap to Bluescreen maybe?

[onyx sage]

eh it's not worth doing

[strong cave]

Yeah backfire should be stupid easy to max stack that

[onyx sage]

I'm working on getting more cores but i'm not super motivated to play the mode ngl

but i think my goto build for it is ceska vigi + contractor + 4p striker

[strong cave]

I've been avoiding it. Even tier 3 is difficult not because the content is hard, but because the DAMAGE they deal hurts

[onyx sage]

ideally all proto

[strong cave]

Even with nearly 1m armor I still get nearly 1 tapped depending on the enemy

[subtle bluff]

Me tooo

[onyx sage]

yeah you have to peek with tall cover like in leg except they're a lot tankier

[strong cave]

They really are. Occasionally one bullet will slip and hit me, sometimes 2 or 3 how bad the angle actually is. It's not exactly easy to gauge

[onyx sage]

foam is goated tho, even if they're immune at low health they still try to dodge roll it

[strong cave]

I've been rolling with a decoy to try to force pull aggro off me. Then run Nimble

[onyx sage]

i swapped off decoy to foam, keeping sticky

my decoy just dies too fast now just due to their scaling

[strong cave]

For me it's just enough time to allow me to reposition with nimble and get myself healed and back into the fight. It's been my go-to exotic slot for a hot minute now. I'll happily trade up the dogs if using cover to cover rewards me with heals

Expertise carries damage enough anyways

Plus I've got Lung/Famas measured. Crowd control and good DPS when needed

Around what tier would you say striker chest is a must?

[young flower]

is rpm or dmg more important for a striker build which one should I use

[strong cave]

When it comes to SMGs, the top performers are currently:

SMG-9 w/ Killer (or Unwavering if secondary slot)

Tac Vector 9mm w/ Killer (unwavering if secondary)

Dark Winter (has perfect killer, also a DZ exclusive)

Damage and RPM are both important. In this case, with striker, SMGs aren't in a great spot meta wise

I personally feel like they need a slight buff to really make SMGs be something to consider. It's a heavily dominant AR/LMG meta right now

[subtle bluff]

By number for vectors: tax >. 45 > SBR.
Like mentioned beforehand SMG9 is much better balance smg.

[young flower]

yea this isn't a permanent choice I just hit lvl 40 and I'm grinding up a striker build the guide I'm reading rn said just take whatever has a high rpm

[strong cave]

I personally would go for Dark Winter if using striker, that's a me decision though

If you can manage to get an SMG-9 with killer (assuming you'll be maining an SMG), should be set to go

I would like to advise against taking an SMG with striker since you have to get pretty close to an enemy for them to be effective. The AR/LMG combo is hard to beat at the moment since it's good for all distances

[young flower]

I don't have an ar with above 800 rpm rn

[strong cave]

The Aug will do just fine, the AR variant

It's accurate, has decent RPM for what you get, has an already large mag size as well

[young flower]

I don't have the aug

[strong cave]

Since you did mention you're new and likely don't have the 20 round extended 5.56 mag, the Aug is a solid choice

[strong cave]

Can always target farm assault rifles in countdown

[young flower]

I'm reading the guide right now

[subtle bluff]

Small steps.

[young flower]

prioritizing getting a 4 piece striker rn I just need to know whats the best option out of the 3 for now

[strong cave]

Ah, with what you got? Heard. What's the 3rd attribute on your .45 cal vector?

You'll want damage to targets out of cover as that. If you have it, slap killer on that vector

[young flower]

magazine size

[strong cave]

Okay, moving onto the other SMGs 😬 what's on those?

3rd attribute for the 9mm SBR

[young flower]

interchange and sbr 9mm

[strong cave]

Well, HSD is better than mag size. Use the 9mm SBR for now as a placeholder. Slap killer on it if you have that in your talent library

[young flower]

alright

[clever merlin]

for hard wired is btsu better than wyvern?

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the build.

[clever merlin]

just HW with explosive spam

[strong cave]

If you're looking to just spam skills, yeah id say BTSU is very powerful

Allows you to overcharge say a healing or stinger hive and any team skills refresh and OC

[clever merlin]

using china too

[strong cave]

In my case I just use Hana-U with glass for the haste

[clever merlin]

what about solo build

[strong cave]

But my HW build is set up around repair hive and EMP pulse for drones

[fair dragon]

deep down, we've established ourselves to be effective casuals

[toxic frigate]

ey a good roll

[young flower]

how about this pp-19

idk how many times I can modify a weapon but I can replace that optimal range with 9% crit damage and stabilize with killer alongside 21% crit chance

[solar sable]

the guide tells you

[young flower]

only once gg

[noble pelican]

That's great to hear!

Despite my comments, as someone who loves theorycrafting, I'm actually fairly happy Buildstation exists.

I just didn't agree with the common "Yea it shows wrong numbers, it's just not finished, just use a different tool" reply being thrown around here; If it's not finished, a disclaimer would've been nice. We all know how the internet works otherwise; Someone is absolutely going to pull it out of context.

As a dev myself; Are there currently still any aspects that require solutions and/or appear hard (or too complex) to implement?

[subtle bluff]

Join the discord server for it if you want to continue more with this or just DM Shin.
Trying to not spam this channel.

[noble pelican]

Kinda ironic, given that you've spend more time arguing that all of these changes/disclaimers are "not important yet, because it's not finished" in a channel about build advise, compared to the time I've spend explaining that they're not accurate.

But sure, I'll move this to their server directly.

[subtle bluff]

Um. Context wise are you talking about buildstation?

I mentioned your previous post about YouTubers and that the dps isn't correct to shin.

[autumn totem]

Yo so what's like the best rec set up for the modifier stuff. Using cloud armor, what's the go to passives?

[noble pelican]

I just checked the messages again and.. yea, I've mixed two things up here.

Not only wasn't it you (god damn /invite starting names lol), I've definitely seen the "Need to notify the devs" as more sarcastic than intended yesterday.

The few times I've mentioned that Buildstation is great but their "calculations" page is not something you can go by currently, the comments have just been "Use a different tool", "What isn't working?" from people thinking it's accurate or "It's still WIP, so not important".

And - especially in a build advise channel - I'm not agreeing on a commonly linked build page having incorrect numbers "Not being important".

[still pawn]

What’s a good healer build for stuff like incursions and escalations?

[still pawn]

Thank you

[subtle bluff]

I think we're on the same page about buildstation.
I asked what's wrong with mx builder and buildstation because I am a helper and can fix a decent amount of stuff.

[bold forum]

if i want to make big damage , is it worth it to run like the generic striker build with overdogs / equalizer , and maybe run a bighorn for that insane hs damage buildup ? or its not as good as expected

[patent fossil]

Bighorn is strong if you can beam enemies in the head reliably, but the handling isn't great so that tends to be easier said than done, especially at longer ranges

[subtle bluff]

There's per bullet dmg and DPS.

MG5 with Killer do you better.

[bold forum]

even with those modifier that give handling from the season ? because people tend to play with headshot damage , but with that weapon its basically diminish return on that so might just play with lot of handling at this point

[bold forum]

yeah mostly speaking about dps at this point , like just being able to shred mob in heroic cp retal etc , i'm still missing lot of shd level for now so my overall dmg is lower and usually other build tend to not have the necessarry damage to take down enemy before they can shoot you , and since its " dps " you are always repairing because you take a shoot xd

[patent fossil]

Give it a try and see how it works for you, personally I just find it too awkward to reliably laser headshots beyond short range, whereas something like lex with the hsd from the modifiers is much easier

Bighorn does suffer from a smaller mag than most, too

[bold forum]

i always heard about lexington , but cant have one to try anything with it because its a seasonal item nah ?

or is there a waay to get it

[patent fossil]

Not at the moment, police m4 is basically the same though, just fractionally lower damage

[bold forum]

otherwise the classic " best " dps build is just the striker / equalizer / overdogs or there is something better ?

more speaking about general use , not like the " long stacking version " that deal more damage but only few scenario where you can actually stack it max and hold it

[soft crane]

Thats the best

Ol'Reliable
Magnum Opus
Good old

[subtle bluff]

MG5 w/killer

[subtle bluff]

It'd actually would be PGC and Gift.

[bold forum]

whats gift ?

[summer totem]

What's considered the standard for the poison launcher damage per ticket

[patent fossil]

That actually outdamages overdogs? Or just at low stacks?

[subtle bluff]

More uptime and more starting dmg. I forget the numbers between both.

[toxic frigate]

pgc and gift

a hood classic

[subtle bluff]

P. Vigilance

[toxic frigate]

they really dont have down time except when you got hit and then you dont want to get hit cause pgc

[patent fossil]

I was using pvgc a few seasons ago but switched to overdogs (and then equaliser) as everyone seemed to think that was the top dps option

[subtle bluff]

They asked a question this is one of the answers.

[unique hinge]

As a solo player, what skills would you recommend I use for a striker build? I usually use a shield and revive hive. However, I find my shield gets destroyed relatively quickly on higher levels. I don’t want to sacrifice the red cores on my build, and I imagine there are better options for skills?

[toxic frigate]

just dont get hit tm

[flint arch]

the shield is not something you facetank with, you pop it out in short bursts to give you a small leeway for getting hit

anyway, banshee, emp sticky, foam chem and decoy are all excellent options

[fair dragon]

any. the ones I use vary a lot, from Sticky EMP, Decoy, Crusader Shield, Demolisher Firefly, Blinder Firefly

[hexed steppe]

Revive + emp sticky or banshee.
Ability to stagger enemies is kinda huge when you are being focused.

[blazing anvil]

Can anyone pls help me am a division resurgence Player i don't know where to buy weapon

[fair dragon]

Sorry this is a channel for Division 2

[patent fossil]

The official Resurgence discord is linked in #social-media

[blazing anvil]

@patent fossil can you just tell me

[hexed steppe]

The people that play resurgence will be in the official discord, please follow where you were directed

[boreal widget]

how relevant are these and how much do i need to replace :p

[bold forum]

usually when you " build " dps , you prefer having chd or chc on the gear , ( like holster etc ) and then fill with chc on mod , or its just matter of balance that you want

[hexed steppe]

All pretty relevant. Ceska oblit chest is usually equalizer with perfect oblit now. Coyote is generally overdogs exotic glove now. Both will still play well as is atm

[boreal widget]

looks like i dont have the gloves where do i get it

[soft crane]

Thats my healer build. I forgot what to replace. I think the backpack.

[hexed steppe]

Hyena retaliations drop the blueprint. Its in general loot pool so glove target anywhere

[soft crane]

BTSU Datagloves is in the general lootpool.

[hexed steppe]

They already have btsu

[boreal widget]

got that

[soft crane]

what gloves you're looking for then?

[woeful forge]

i just want stat effect

[finite basin]

Is there a specific gear set that would be recommended to run with st elmos?

Im currently running CS and overdogs, woth mostly critical chance and dmg cores (im new) 😭🙏

[subtle bluff]

Striker

[tall jackal]

Bro what is everyones obsession with cs

[silent storm]

Extract that repair skill

[urban latch]

It's new and when you don't know any better it seems good

[silent storm]

CS is ok for messing around

[tall jackal]

Its ok I wouldn't say its near meta tho PvE wise. But for PvP its starting to show.

[urban latch]

It makes sense as a pvp build, but in pve it's just not worth using

[silent storm]

Better than this. I call it the Exp farm build because all my gear and skills except my Rifle are low proficiency and I plan on running builds like these until I'm ExpLv30 lol

[urban latch]

That's a super inefficient way to get expertise up though... While nerfing yourself in the process

[woeful forge]

alr have a 20% extracted

[silent storm]

Not really as all the stuff I have to EXP now is skills and named

[urban latch]

Since the pic? That little white arrow is showing you don't

[zenith rose]

Just adding my 5 cents. I do like PvE in CS, but I feel like I'm missing out. I have HF techtank bruiser, Strikers and they feel much more powerful. I like HF the most, but looking for something new to try out that have enough tankiness and good damage. Any ideas fellas?

[lone glacier]

I just started pumping all the printer filament in things..

[woeful forge]

since the pic ye, got another courier drop with the exact same stats

[silent storm]

Also running Countdown with Gear Mods as drop so getting tonnes of Filament to speed it up

[idle hawk]

Returning player, looking for recommendations for an AR and talent that I can expertise 30 and prototype. (I have to wait on stretch goals before I can get Lexington)

[noble pelican]

Is there any calculations/tests on how fast this is, compared to targeted farming if you still need a given set from 0 to 10?

[willow sigil]

for legendary missions do i change striker at all?

[rocky basin]

how to start farming prototypes?

[lone glacier]

Play Escalation and pray

[finite basin]

Idk i saw it come out with the update as thats when I picked up the game finally, and saw a video saying CS is good. Just so happens it was around the time I hit lvl 40 and I was doing a mission that it dropped on

Ill be going for a striker set now that I have a little more of an understanding of the game

[rich lotus]

Is there any good status effect build

[soft crane]

• Vile exotic mask

• 4 Pieces Eclipse protocol including the chest piece

• Electrique backpack with Creeping Death talent

• Scorpio exotic shotgun

[rich lotus]

time to farm Scorpio

[open sail]

is it possible to survive without shield, i am using striker shotgun build

[silent storm]

I don't know, but from 0-10 GS is like 2 Challenging Countdowns with 4 pieces equipped

With the event active ofcourse

[noble pelican]

I don't mean running a specific set, but donating dropped pieces.

If you target loot a specific set and just donate the pieces, it's also 2 runs. I'm curious how much faster/slower donating resources by targeting mods would be in comparison.

[silent storm]

IDK, but since Named items and Skills are all I have left Filament seems the fastest way to get there

[noble pelican]

Oh, absolutely.

I've just seen it suggested for people here, without adding the context of "max out your sets and other easy stuff first" and it's likely slower compared to targeting those.

[silent storm]

On single Named Items I am getting a little over 1 level Prof per run

[boreal widget]

overdogs exotic one
localdeck mentioned where to get that

[soft crane]

oh

[silent storm]

Hyenas Retaliations from the Kill Squads

[livid sorrel]

youtuber clickbait glazed it to hell

[copper yarrow]

Is there any High End SMG build?

Want to use Backfire and I'm okay with sacrificing the higher dmg ceiling of striker, get the SMG more accuracy

[mint otter]

got mine from exotic cashe

[neon zealot]

every season unless the set is super dogshit

think when using backfire accuracy is the last thing you have to worry about

[willow sigil]

is 12 the highest protection from elites will go?

[lone glacier]

13% is the max on mods

[willow sigil]

thanks

[versed summit]

they're undescribably rare though, so effectively you can just treat 12s like max

[shy willow]

When are we getting a PFE bonus on a brandset

[willow sigil]

trying to put something together for the final journey missions but im not sure what im supposed to build

[shy willow]

🙏

[patent fossil]

Iirc there's a named holster or gloves with a decent accuracy boost, you could also just trade off crit rolls for handling since smgs have innate crit

[copper yarrow]

Also, is there any other SMG that can beat Backfire in terms of TTK?

[patent fossil]

Chatterbox maybe, note both guns are quite situational in terms of when you can get the most out of them, eg:
#ask-td2-community message

[copper yarrow]

So it's like the Striker Chest haha

[shy willow]

More or less yes

[copper yarrow]

Oof. What would be some good HE SMG choices then?

[shy willow]

You get much higher damage potential but you need the right conditions to make it worth using over other options

[shy willow]

Vector family and the converted smg-9 are popular

[patent fossil]

Chatterbox, conversely, is at its strongest when you've got lots of low health enemies

[copper yarrow]

with Killer talent right

[shy willow]

Killer and measured are popular yeah

Alternatively now, back and forth

Or unwavering if you want it as a secondary

[hazy steeple]

It sort of depends if you want it as your primary or stack-building gun, and if those are the same single gun or not.

[silent storm]

This doesn't exist

And until I get one I will hold that stance

[hazy steeple]

@silent storm It's true, they're not real.

[silent storm]

I have seen a person with 6 of them on a build

I was like how da frack

[hazy steeple]

7 years of farming.

[silent storm]

I mean I maxed out Printer Filament and never saw one

[neon zealot]

cool edit

[hazy steeple]

If you think I have the prowess to edit it that well, you have more confidence in my editing than I do.

[silent storm]

It was A.I.

[hazy steeple]

This is more my speed:

[boreal widget]

😔 where mine

[silent storm]

Do I keep these ones for something? I think I saw that somewhere

Or was it a joke because 5.11?

[boreal widget]

where do we farm gear now?

are red ones only blueprint based or gold ones too

[neon zealot]

uhhh maybe backfire? 5.11 is p sad though

[hardy hare]

Is there a dps medic build somewhere out there?

[boreal widget]

what now

[soft crane]

The Refactor build is what you're looking for yes.

[boreal widget]

can you link or post it?

[soft crane]

Check pins

[loud fulcrum]

Hi just reinstalled the game after a couple years what gear sets are good now and where's the best place to get the good stuff?

[boreal widget]

is the heal stronger than future ini?

[soft crane]

Striker's Battlegear.

[soft crane]

No, FI is for pure support healing build.

[boreal widget]

🗣️ future ini on top

[loud fulcrum]

Where's the best place to farm it?

[soft crane]

More like slightly different uses. Refactor can still deal decent damage.

[boreal widget]

now i just need to find someone that can help me get the quick walk pistol

[analog mural]

i honestly need to grab that too because the walking in retal/countdown is getting ridiculous

[soft crane]

Countdown and Retaliation.

[soft crane]

@analog mural I can host Houndsman bounty but Im done for today.

[boreal widget]

oo thought it would be better to just run pure healer

[soft crane]

Good luck looking for someone else in #lfg-pc

[boreal widget]

i just need to stay in your lobby even if you leave right?

yeye ill check on lfg later that would be better since im afk rn

[soft crane]

Yeah, I will activate the bounty once the team is filled. Then I will leave to host another.

[boreal widget]

do you know where countdown is?

we access with heli on top?

[soft crane]

Top right of the map. Pentco Fairview nuclear power plant.

[sinful yoke]

guys whats the best build for retaliation

[boreal widget]

thanks and where do we select preffered gear

[soft crane]

Anything. Your average striker dps build should do more than enough.

[boreal widget]

👴 i forgot

[soft crane]

Over the countdown icon, press H iirc

[boreal widget]

can we pick on the new reta thing too?

[weak quail]

Retaliation or summit also works for targeting loot, is the same in all 3

[boreal widget]

thanks again

[soft crane]

Yes, Targeted Loot feature is available in Countdown, Retaliation, and Summit.

[analog mural]

how good is the amount of loot drops in retal compared to cd

[soft crane]

Countdown is the best for farming because you can get more than 50+ items in a single run so make sure you have enough inventory spaces.

@analog mural @boreal widget

Hah, I was writing that message down when you asked.

[zenith rose]

So guys, this is my current build. It gets job done so far, but I'm wondering what can I change to make it better. I do like a bit of survivability.

[smoky latch]

Change Striker's chest to either Equalizer or Česká with Obliterate. Maybe have Brazen on your shotgun. Less blue cores is a good start for more damage

[soft crane]

Why You Should Run 6 Red Cores 👈

[smoky latch]

Gunner specialization for 10% armor on kill helps too. No need to run this like a tech tank

[idle hawk]

loosing alot of dmg not running striker Bag

[zenith rose]

So Striker Bag and Ceska chest would be a good choice?

[idle hawk]

i personally prefer the equalizer chest, it has perfect obliterate

[smoky latch]

It's ok to run Memento with Striker's if someone needs a crutch in terms of survivability. The additional blue cores however lead to further damage loss

[idle hawk]

true

[smoky latch]

Damage wise, yes. You will get more survivability by being able to kill NPCs faster - also use cover well

[zenith rose]

Gonna try 2 Ceska and Striker Bag for now. Will look for a better Equalizer as well because the one I have is bad.

[unborn ridge]

what's the best seasonal modifiers for dps builds

[lone glacier]

Convert 1 Offense, Compress Offense, Nullify

[obtuse shoal]

Hellppp why can’t I play escalation??

[hard fiber]

Need to be expertise 30

[analog mural]

u dont need to be exp 30 to play escalation

[smoky latch]

No lol

You need to have reached SHD level

[trim abyss]

so is there a fix coming for when rerolling an augment bricks your item?

[smoky latch]

It does not brick it, it's a visual bug. Just relog to see your item's real stats. Apparently it is under investigate and being worked on

[trim abyss]

Oh so the original stat is still there you just cant see it? Because its definitely bricked 2 of my clan mates items

when they rerolled the augment it rolled off crit chance and relogging does not change it back

[smoky latch]

I have not heard of that - can't say

[trim abyss]

ya its not the bug youre referring to

[smoky latch]

I see that now, ya

I don't have enough proto cores to reroll my augments, haha

[trim abyss]

ya its probly best not to even try right now

[smoky latch]

Make sure to report it or upvote an existing post on the new bug reporter platform

[trim abyss]

its already known, one of the main content creators for this game quit over it

[smoky latch]

Who would that be?

[trim abyss]

the guy that makes the spreadsheets, cant remeber his name lol

kia or soemthing

[smoky latch]

If you mean iKia, he quit the game before this stuff went even live

[trim abyss]

yep but it was this bug he got in the PTS

[hard fiber]

Oh right my bad, I thought my friend couldn’t play cause he didn’t have 30 expertise

[smoky latch]

Yeah IDK why we even have PTS' when half of the bugs we found (a week or so before launch date of a live season roughly) can't even get addressed due to being short on time...

[trim abyss]

ya and these bugs dont even make sense unless they used AI to write the code

the drop rates to, like cmon, you cant tell me they actually thought that was a good idea

[smoky latch]

But hey, they already increased it 😄

IDK much about the Snowdrop engine but it must be hell of a mess with how easy it is to brick it

[plush cloak]

Is there a better gun to run with strikers + overdogs + equalizer than st elmos? I’m shd 400 so I know I’m missing some damage but I’m getting obliterated by black tusk drones and nades in retaliation on challenging.

[smoky latch]

Any AR with +790 RPM and a damage talent

[trim abyss]

lexignton has a bit higher numbers but many prefer st elmos

[smoky latch]

Lexington is basically just a Police M4 with only 4% increased base damage. Very small difference

[trim abyss]

yep and the added crwond control of st elmos and mag size is why many just use it

[versed summit]

With a damage talent a Lexington or any high end ar can do significantly more damage

[exotic talon]

what
anyone can write bad code

[trim abyss]

yes i know but the bugs themselves dont make sense for something a human wrote

[broken edge]

all game that lasts long enough just becomes a jenga tower of things that multiple different people have stacked on top of eachother

because the guy who wrote source code might not be around anymore, so the guy who is charge now has to go around it, and then later the third guy has to do that song and dance twice

MMOs are one of the few games that are just built in such a way they know they will revisit that 7 years later to completely rework stuff

[trim abyss]

ya im just saying, something is off about these bug in particular, what they added is simple and straightforward. Simply updating a gear piece like protyping should not cause the wide range of bugs were currently experiencing

[woven ruin]

is this a good roll?what build would benefit from this?was planning to roll all yellow.

[smoky latch]

Useful in PvP for armor regen probably

[trim abyss]

like what they added is a tried and true feature across MANY games and theres only a few explanations for why it went this badly

[versed summit]

Its useful for a regen tank, but that's mostly limited to the IH raid.

[versed summit]

Since it halfed in PvP and doesnt have the damage component Catharsis has, I wouldn't use it tbh

[smoky latch]

Oh I wasn't aware. But makes sense, probably for the better

[pine wyvern]

hey agents - are there any reccomended builds for a solo fresh 40 player? found an epic spreadsheet here

[shut kindle]

Are these stats ok for my build? It's Nego

[versed summit]

Striker is the general recommendation starting out, as it can do basically any content, then you can branch out to builds that suit your playstyle better.

[versed summit]

What pieces are you running?

[shut kindle]

Lexington secondary, primary cricket fox prayer knees and contractor gloves, the rest is nego

[patent fossil]

You definitely want 60% chc for nego or you're losing opportunities to transfer damage

[shut kindle]

shall i swap a mod out for chc?

[patent fossil]

Yup

Or run ceska obliterate chest, nego chest isn't the best in most circumstances

[shut kindle]

I havent found one thats better than my chest yet

[versed summit]

Cricket is pretty mediocre tbh, I wouldn't recommend fox's and Contractor's here either.

The negotiator chest is pretty mediocre as well.

I'd recommend equalizer chest and ceska gloves or knees tbh.

[shut kindle]

I'll try and get equaliser tbh, but it's pretty hard to get decent rolls on it

[versed summit]

You already protoed this 👀

[gentle lichen]

Are you consistently marking 5 enemies?

[versed summit]

Honestly for escalation there's enough targets to probably do that, but you just don't have enough damage output

[shut kindle]

Shall I proto striker instead?

Skill tiers are broken rn

also this is my second nego build, my main one i havent touched yet

[versed summit]

Striker is more worthwhile for escalations, but it also depends how you have it set up

[pine wyvern]

thanks 🙂 !

[shut kindle]

Problem with striker is, if any enemies rush, you end up dead

It's great on single targets, but if you need to swap targets at all, youre done.

[versed summit]

that's the problem with nego lmao

[haughty harness]

Bro just flexing

[versed summit]

you need the focused single target damage with striker to kill enemies rushing you.

[loud fulcrum]

Best guns to run with striker build?

[shut kindle]

lex

elmo backfire, maybe?

[tacit hamlet]

Fair enough and yah, internet context sucks! LOL

Nothing difficult/complex, it's mostly just not enough time. Are you interested in helping?

[fading orbit]

how much dps can a full optimized refractor build do?

[clever merlin]

Anyone here have a smart cover build

[noble pelican]

I could hop in when it comes to testing stuff in-game, general feedback (gimme Shroud bonus toggle :P) and if there's anything you have in mind but no way to easily implement, I can definitely work out a solution.

Currently not enough time to pick up another side project to continuously "work on", however. Just got into one. :p

On the general topic of the chanel; I've finally managed to hit the 20m+ (and 25m+) on my striker setup, without external (other people) buffs. So the "20-30m" claims aren't actually all that wrong, despite the person back then claiming that range with no context lol

[smoky latch]

Depends on your build. Also it's hard to measure because drone and turret damage is a little inconsistent

[silent storm]

You can put Smart Cover on anything really

I like using it on my FI set

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

https://youtu.be/ogOfTbjgjig?si=6UmAy4HbNpFPdNUR

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12iTHrXp4_4z7_6fyytHOIu5BUWKfaY8u8pzgMbW38aY/edit?usp=drivesdk

[livid tundra]

using 4pc striker and overdogs, which is better fox prayer or equalizer or ceska+obliterate?

[smoky latch]

Depends on the content you run

Generally Equalizer and Overdogs up to heroic difficulty is commonly used

[boreal widget]

huh wasnt this from dz only?

i just got it from named

[smoky latch]

There's your answer lol

[rough pendant]

How can i pit 30/30/30 in season modifier?

[minor grove]

best talent for lexington? striker build, before prototyping it lol

[soft crane]

Ah the good old striker build.

[timid token]

Ye let me resend my stats lol

[glad thicket]

I thought was a bug lol 😆

[soft crane]

Measured or Killer.