td2-build-advice

[flint arch]

No amps (you also lose the chest talent if you run core strength) and no additional stats from brand sets means it's not going to compete

At best, you'll be medicore at everything

[strong cave]

Best at taking up a group slot tbh

[livid sorrel]

B-but my legendary tanking build...

[flint arch]

The best part is the backpack whose talent explicitly says "this backpack talent does nothing"

[red fox]

So this is what im running currently, mostly in challenging/heroic. Would it be better to drop Salvo for a Striker holster and pick up overdogs or stay as-is?

I have been switching out blue and red cores, I'm looking for max dmg while still maintining 1-1.2m armor

[flint arch]

Overdogs 1000000%.

[strong cave]

Yeah I saw that and I was like "but harrier Pride does more than this..."

[flint arch]

The damage amp you get from overdogs is way better than the RoF and 20% AR damage you get from Salvo and UA

[strong cave]

Ditch holster, take the dogs. Build looks perfectly fine even with 2 blues

[red fox]

gonna try it now

[uncut yarrow]

im playing it right now and like, yea i have more armor and my base damage is higher... but my damage is hot ass cheeks bro

[outer agate]

best build for retaliations?

[flint arch]

Literally even Ninjabike is better than it, simply because Ninjabike has a functional talent

[uncut yarrow]

foundry tank treats me well

[strong cave]

TRUUUUUTH

[strong cave]

You clear in time?

[flint arch]

That's how low the bar is for NBB to finally win btw, it only took until we got a backpack with no talent and no minor attributes whatsoever

[livid sorrel]

better than nothing but still takes up your exo gear slot

[sinful tinsel]

my build is so unique

[uncut yarrow]

the runs ive done with it on yea. I rock Chameleon and such. my damage per shot average around half a mil and Foundry makes you very hard to kill. its pretty dope. and im only SHD 250

[flint arch]

so groundbreaking

[sinful tinsel]

ik never seen before build

[flint arch]

btw don't use Rock n' Roll on standard striker, you don't really need it, it's only for chest striker

[strong cave]

Only half a mill? That's pretty lowball damage. I'm hitting the 1.2m - 1.7m threshold

[flint arch]

just use an SMG as your secondary, SMG-9 with unwavering is a typical choice

[livid sorrel]

damage per shot isn't that useful of a metric

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers i rarely use secondaries tbf

[strong cave]

Time to kill is everything

[uncut yarrow]

thats on average. it goes up higher to like 800k when i can get stacks going but its my build. does far more than this piece of shite Coe build i just tried

[uncut blade]

uhh,does HB really require the Vigilance talent backpack? and is scanner pulse really that bad for it?
cuz i wonna use the bluescreen with it, or should i just use a different gearset for those 2?

[strong cave]

Put it this way: God forbid you have been EMPd and need to pulse something that has no head. Where damage?

[livid sorrel]

join us nego gang

[flint arch]

scanner pulse means you lose a skill that could've been something else, and EMPs exist
bluescreen pulse isn't very consistent
you CAN just run something like Memento as the backpack, but it means you lose damage.

[surreal oak]

im thinking of grinding for a bighorn, would you recommend?

[keen zenith]

yes, absolutely its a game changer if you land headshots

[strong cave]

Heartbreaker is striker with extra steps and still does less damage

[flint arch]

In conclusion, please just use Striker.

[strong cave]

It's fine for solos but you'd have an easier time with striker

[surreal oak]

endgame - Im thinking of maining THE WHITE DEATH with BIGHORN --- what green gear set are you running

[lone glacier]

Just use Striker with Equalizer and Overdogs if you care for damage

[uncut blade]

i do have a strikers, don't know if its a good one,

[keen zenith]

i would be running striker for usual everyday activities but with escalation and randoms i have to run heartbreaker cause of just me not wanting to depend on teammates that may fail me

[flint arch]

good luck landing headshots with bighorn though

[strong cave]

Warhounds: heads? What's that?

[surreal oak]

3 striker 2 heartbreakers and overdogs ?

[flint arch]

what the hell is that

[keen zenith]

what

[lone glacier]

No.

[red fox]

Holy shit this slaps

[keen zenith]

sadly but i use riot foam to help me out on that

[flint arch]

The humble warhound, minitank and marauder:

[keen zenith]

this build lands me a upwards of 2.2 mil on headshot, i would be using rock and roll but i dont have it

[sinful tinsel]

the warhound spikes cortisol like nothing else

[strong cave]

If you want near constant damage, check this channel's pins. There's a guide how to use overdogs

[broken garnet]

Farming rifles right now and not too educated with them, should I prioritize the lightweight m4 or the bakers dozen? Don't really know what rifles are good and what aren't good

[lone violet]

All roads lead back to striker

[red fox]

so kill adds first essentially?

[flint arch]

I don't like standard Striker, but PVGC Striker my beloved

[uncut yarrow]

I just changed it up a bit but this is my Foundry build. Ive never run it with Technician before since im leveling Technician atm. Works pretty good for me. Just noticed the empty chest mod lol

[flint spire]

Depends

[broken garnet]

I've heard both are good, I mained the lightweight m4 in div 1 when it was still an AR but heard the bakers dozen is the most used

[strong cave]

This build does that but instantly lol

Also not dependent on headshots either. It just rewards them

[flint arch]

at the cost of needing you to get used to PVGC

[strong cave]

Oh did I forget to mention it's stackless? It's immediate damage

[strong cave]

Pixel peek 💯 never have that issue

[sinful tinsel]

just play like siege

[strong cave]

I just dislike glass

[flint arch]

I don't know how to pixel peek well enough but I don't die as much with PVGC nowadays so

[flint spire]

M4 is decent
Idk about baker dozen
diamond back exotic is the best from what I seen

[flint arch]

It's almost comical how reluctant the enemies are to shoot you after you bury your head in Legendary for a few days

[strong cave]

I just taught my girl today and she finally understands the concept

[lone violet]

Gameplay so good the video doesn’t want to load 🔥🔥

[strong cave]

I'll make you stand at a specific corner in game and show you how busted it is. Playing with a crosshair makes it even more busted

[broken garnet]

Diamond back has been sitting in my stash since kenly college first dropped in year one but I'll try it out

[strong cave]

I'm going for a drive

[flint arch]

rn I either find tall cover or shove myself up against a wall

[uncut yarrow]

is your pfp your truck per chance? by some wild stretch of the imagination?

[flint arch]

running over bystanders again

[grizzled garnet]

does your build not also die instantly?

[flint arch]

any 6 red core build will if you try to facetank. the solution is to not get hit using good positioning and a bunch of other stuff

[grizzled garnet]

indeed

also on armor break dont you get some amount of i frames

[uncut yarrow]

oo oo, me me, i can do that

one sec let me get the picture

[eager cosmos]

Hey so im kinda new, Low SHD level, low expertise (3) and am trying to do anything above Challenging, i have a striker build but it doesnt have any survivabioity aand when i try and put defensive stuff on i feel like i do no damage, anyone hav ea good build that doesnt feel like it relies on expertise or anything?

[karmic seal]

So far making a Healer build and the only thing I need to change is the backpack

[woeful chasm]

You can do legendary content with no expertise.

[woeful chasm]

Staying in cover is a good start in surviving. What weapon are you using with your strikers set?

[uncut yarrow]

@eager cosmos i like this build i made a few days ago. a little more leveled than youll have but good survivability

[eager cosmos]

does it also do at least decent damage?

[uncut yarrow]

my first build build i made was a strikers build with almost 100% hazard, 100% bleed resist on Backfire. pretty fun

[eager cosmos]

i pretty much stick to cover or the shield, police M4

[uncut yarrow]

for me it does yes. especially with Chameleon, it builds up with its own stacks. it isnt quite Striker damage but still works

probably works with other weapons but you wanna use a weapon that you can use with the shield cuz how Foundry Tank works

so no lmgs

no LMG main weapon at least

[eager cosmos]

ill check it out

[uncut yarrow]

i like it, it works. i'd love to find a good survivability loadout that utilizes bluescreen or iron lung

thatd be fun

[ebon lantern]

Question as a make a build if there a difference between a normal MK46 and a Military MK46 replica? Or are they the same gun

[summer totem]

Curious I searched up 1886 1 shot builds and i never saw them use nemesis as secondary when it gives bonus headshot damage, why's that

[subtle bluff]

It can do the most dmg in one without needing anything to do it

[ebon lantern]

Is the 0 meant to say 0 difference?

[smoky latch]

M249 is also pretty much the same LMG

[summer totem]

But what about the headshot bonus damage from nemesis when holstered correct me if im wrong

[versed summit]

That hasn't existed in years

[ebon lantern]

Fair fair, after the advice I got I was looking around and saw that I can craft some so figured I might but with the names being different I was like hmmmmmmmm

[summer totem]

Dang so the wiki is outdated af

[versed summit]

The fandom one?

[summer totem]

I guess so?

[versed summit]

Def needs some tlc

[summer totem]

Wanted to do my research on nemesis before i commit to grinding it

2.7 mil is crazy work

[versed summit]

Its mostly overkill tbh

[summer totem]

So it had 30% bonus headshot damage when holstered before but then rebalanced it since its like having a gear that gives 30% bonus head?

Doing my search and damn, is shroud really mid compared to other MMR?

[hexed steppe]

You can get nemesis into your loot pool in a single session this week

[summer totem]

Im tired of doing lootpools in countdown

Grinded 2 weeks for overdogs and still nothing, only got it from retaliation drops

[smoky latch]

Farming exotics in Countdown isn't exactly the best way to get any

[hexed steppe]

Weapons are a lot easier. The loot pool is a lot smaller for mmr than the glove loot pool

[summer totem]

Yeah i found out the hard way

[fringe ravine]

How much armor should I be looking for in build ?

[hexed steppe]

None

[flint arch]

0

[summer totem]

Only got my wanted exotics from retaliation and by players dropping it for me which i owe them alot to

Atp there should be a pity system for exotic cache

[smoky latch]

Depends on your build. An all red build usually is the best survivability but needs practice

[fringe ravine]

All red with memento and what on the chest ?

[tender pasture]

Does backfire compete with striker dog ars?

[smoky latch]

You could run a Striker's build with Memento and 1-2 max blue cores in the beginning

[summer totem]

Saw someone do solo legendary with it, mf was dealing 2 mils per crit

[smoky latch]

No, different use scenario

[bold python]

Guys trying to make a build with the new armor brand any suggestions

[tender pasture]

With event or no?

[summer totem]

None

[fringe ravine]

I've got tons of gear. Haven't played in a long while. What builds are popular for the dz ? Striker still ?

[tender pasture]

You got a link?

[smoky latch]

No good suggestions because you don't gain meaningful benefits in PvE

[summer totem]

He was using multiple builds tho in 1 run, was pretty cool to see

[smoky latch]

Check #td2-pvp-discussions

[bold python]

Ok makes sense

[summer totem]

Just saw him by chance

@smoky latch For headshot sniper builds, what attributes should i aim for in overdogs

I figured that crit and crit damage isnt it

[smoky latch]

Overdogs have fixed attributes

[summer totem]

I cant recalibrate it?

[smoky latch]

You can recalibrate them but the rolls remain the same. Only the "quality" changes so that you might have to spend less mats on fully optimizing them

[summer totem]

So overdogs cant have headshot damage attribute?

[smoky latch]

Yup, correct

[silent storm]

nope

[eager cosmos]

Before i log in, anyone else have a good solo build they use?

im honestly trying to find something that will help me play and learn and get better

[neon merlin]

if you like snipers i got a nice shroud build atm @eager cosmos

[eager cosmos]

im down for anything that will help me chain these retaliates, and even try on a higher diff

[livid sorrel]

basic strikers, all red we throwing you into the deep end

[silent storm]

This needs to be used more

[eager cosmos]

thats whay im doing now lmao

[livid sorrel]

glass cannon chest

[broken edge]

going to ask stupid questions to read answer later

breaking point any decent with ravenous?

[eager cosmos]

send it

[eager cosmos]

This is me right now

[subtle bluff]

HH isn't great on retal due to helmets

aka sniper/1 shot builds

[eager cosmos]

Still, I love trying builds

[subtle bluff]

Build Hub has plenty of guides and builds for you to try

[young nimbus]

I noticed the pakhan now has the reconfigure blueprint but even though I have two of them in my backpack I’m not able to buy the reconfig blueprint - is it a bug or am I doing something incorrect?

[eager cosmos]

im broawsing em now but nothing stands out i guess

[livid sorrel]

negotiator is fun

[neon merlin]

didnt even realize you could get the ravenous blueprint now, got it on my first black tusk retaliation

[woeful chasm]

Looks pretty solid imo. I started doing heroic with no max rolls and no exotic armor piece using St Elmo + Strikers, SHD 80 and 0 Expertise. I think it's a skill issue and not a build issue here.

[eager cosmos]

also a lot of these use overdogs which i dont have

[eager cosmos]

youre probably right, im still fairly new, just kind of hoping a build can shore up enough differences that i can use it to improve skill without tearing my hair out or gettin gbored on lower diffs

that sbeing said i JUST got a st elmos and am thinking of using it?

[woeful chasm]

After playing this game for 3 weeks it has become clear for me that there is no need for die hard meta in this game. Build anything that makes sense and it will work like a charm. There are ways to optimize builds and certain items that give slightly more damage than others but all in all you can go far with anything.

[eager cosmos]

thats how most ubisoft looters are, S&B is similar tbh

[woeful chasm]

Yes, try it out. I love it but has since moved on to other builds.

[eager cosmos]

but a good build helps me learn if that makes sense? hard to learn if im struggling, or tearing through content thats too easy

[woeful chasm]

That is nice, I come from games where "META or GTFO"

[livid sorrel]

anything works under solo heroic tbh

[woeful chasm]

Yes for sure but the build you are using is considered the strongest single target build in the game(with ST elmos)

[eager cosmos]

you mean solo under heroic?

[woeful chasm]

Yes but anything that makes sense aka stacking chd/chc or headshot dmg or skill dmg or skill repair or or or just works.edit for Heroic

[eager cosmos]

sure

i might jsut be too bad for the game lmao

[subtle bluff]

to a degree... till you see people qq about not being able to tank div2 like normal looters

[livid sorrel]

oh yeah tanks don't work

[subtle bluff]

but like metioned pretty much anything is viable up to solo heroic.

[eager cosmos]

up to and including solo heroic? or jsut up to

[silent storm]

Including

[subtle bluff]

Just waiting for the wave of qq for Escalation +t6

[eager cosmos]

then i am jsut bad lmao

[livid sorrel]

I'm already seeing people lfging as tanks in global chat

[silent storm]

Use cover and learn the spawns

[lone glacier]

Chow, what are you running stacks wise in the Recombinant?

[subtle bluff]

I like saying this game needs a mix balance of: Build, gameplay and knowledge at the end game. To a degree someone else can help other out but if you really lack of the 3 it won't go well

[subtle bluff]

Recombinant?

[lone glacier]

Seasonal Modifier thing

[livid sorrel]

the global modifier

[subtle bluff]

um. I never look at modifers

[lone glacier]

huh.

[subtle bluff]

Not the guy for it. Since my main content doesn't use them.

I do need to learn them for this season I guess for escalation

[woeful chasm]

I think you just need to keep at it tbh. Think about what is going on and how you can avoid trouble. A few things comes to mind for me settling in the way the game works that doesn't come natural for me from earlier experiences:
Using cover a lot more than I am used to.
"Hipfiring" from cover on enemies pushing you to stagger/stop them.
Damage to targets out of cover is immense compared to in cover.
Tbh try a different build, do you have any LMGs? They feel a lot more like sitting back and shooting from cover than the a bit more up in the face push into the enemy style of striker+AR.

[livid sorrel]

saturate(thing you don't want) invert(thing you want) split(thing you don't want)

[lone glacier]

Oh there's more to it. You can even go the route of getting 129% HSD extra and vice versa. It can get crazy

[eager cosmos]

i love LMGs, but im struggling to fit them into anything, i have some good ones, I like pestilence a lot, but im havin gissues getting the tick damage i want out of it

i feel like when i play too defensivley things take daaaays to kill, and that seems to be an issue in retaliation

[lone glacier]

I can send you a link to a guy that breaks down the seasonal stuff over on Reddit. Seems top notch from what I've read @subtle bluff

[woeful chasm]

A weapon that shines with overdogs but works just fine without. Try stashing your strikers build for now and rock that for a bit. I think playing different styles will help you elevate.

[eager cosmos]

i know its a skill issue, so any advice would be great

[eager cosmos]

got a quick and dirty pest build? id love something

[flint arch]

pesti guide

[eager cosmos]

hype

[livid sorrel]

this guide has great tips for avoiding damage

[woeful chasm]

Since you are struggling I would play the obliterate chest you are currently wearing rather than a glass cannon.

[brave void]

Do I click this again?

[livid sorrel]

that's fine, just optimize

[brave void]

k ty

Would something else be better? or is that bis?

[cerulean smelt]

not sure what you're going for, going to assume a hotshot or headshot build of some sort?
i stashed my Shroud for a Handbasket, because why not 😹
but i believe it's probably one of the top MMR, aside Nemesis i guess?

[woeful chasm]

Got to consider the sheer amount of swag that baby holds.

[brave void]

Just as a general roll I guess I plan on making a hotshot at some point but dont have one made currently

[eager cosmos]

advice on exotic since no overdogs?

[livid sorrel]

coyote's or a ceska glove

[eager cosmos]

coyotes it is

[cerulean smelt]

or be brave and got the no exotic route. be like ceska 1 piece, grupo 2nd piece 😹

or be extremely brave. Sacrifice or glass cannon + black listers kneepads. mark a target and take 660% or 625% damage from marked target 😹

[grim bluff]

Exodus Gloves are really nice as a defensive crutch if your damage is good, if you have them

[smoky latch]

Just FYI, exotics or named items aren't needed in any build.

[smoky latch]

CHC is a bit low

[fringe ravine]

Different gloves

[smoky latch]

Ratio should be 1:2 unless you can hit the CHC cap easily so you can dump the rest into CHD

[eager cosmos]

yeah im aware, im asking for advice

[fringe ravine]

What should I use for back up weapon ?

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[smoky latch]

"Any advice on exotics since no Overdogs"

Is literally what you asked so I thought I'd drop you that info 😉

[eager cosmos]

fair enough

[versed glacier]

Do you guys think with the escallation missions, cc builds will make a comeback?

[subtle bluff]

at a point they're immunity to status effects..

[cerulean smelt]

noticed that with GWH hyena. shoot pouch the keep running at me like nothing 😹

then i panick or die to them or another npc 😹

[silent storm]

What is going on here?

[cerulean smelt]

what, you never heard of the infamous blackdogs? or overlisters last season?

[hexed steppe]

overlisters ftw

[silent storm]

I didn't really pay attention because blacklisters weren't good

[hexed steppe]

already missed 😔

[cerulean smelt]

was a bug last season. you could obtain them but they'd have overdogs talent instead

[hexed steppe]

black listers had overdog talent. perfect for that pesti build so contractors could also be used

rip

[silent storm]

It was like 600% DMG or something and kept boosting to like billions of DMG

[cerulean smelt]

please re-read what i typed

[hexed steppe]

bugged versions were overdogs in a knee

[silent storm]

I knew all about them even got warned to stop talking about it lol

[hexed steppe]

your last statement says otherwise

[silent storm]

I didn't realize the BP was bugged though like that

[mighty kettle]

This a good roll for the new exotic mask?

[solar sable]

on what

[mighty kettle]

new mask

[solar sable]

we dont know yet tbh, itll take a few days to get it all sorted

[atomic turtle]

Kind of. It's better than Coyote's at any distance beyond 15m for Critical Hit Damage.

But Coyote's offers a group-wide buff, and within 15 meters it deals 5% more Critical Hit Damage with only those two minor red attributes.

For solo, still too early to tell, but I feel as though a full red Investor's would be better if only slightly, depending on how to engage most NPCs.

[shy willow]

I feel as though you'd still get more value out of overdogs

[atomic turtle]

But I mean... you know... good luck hitting all 4 reds. It's a bit of an RNG nightmare and only marginally better than Coyote's, I think. Plus, like I said, Coyote's is a group-wide buff. So everyone in the team benefits. Unless you play exclusively solo, Investor's seems like a very edge-case gear piece.

[shy willow]

That and farming an all red investor is gonna take you 8 lifetimes

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say longer honestly

[sour juniper]

mosquito is sleeper broken on a support build dont @ me

shred armor, pull aggro, hide, and heal EZ tank kills

[eager cosmos]

did a heroic bounty with pest, definitly felt fairly comfy, gunner instead of firewall as well was nice, overall i liek it so far

[sour juniper]

forcing aggro is similar to heals bc you're preventing dmg to ur team while you're not taking any bc ur hiding

using it with refactor and harmony

[shy willow]

huh

[atomic turtle]

It's like a 0.4% drop chance or something like that, I think? I think I did the math right?

1/3 x 1/84 = 1/252 or 0.397%

My math skills are dogwater though. Realistically, it's actually not as bad as I thought it would be if that math's right. But then you have to consider the odds of also getting an Exotic drop at all, and then have it be Investor's and not Vile or Coyote's. So that drop chance technically plummets even further, lmao.

You could technically apply this to Reconfiguring only, I suppose. But the odds are still big oof.

[eager cosmos]

ah the plight of the tank in every mmo, what is the value of redirected damage and how can i shove it in a dps' face

[cerulean smelt]

why i'd say longer, considering once you reconfigure from one thing you can still get that same thing again at some point again

[subtle bluff]

Click in the channel saw GPT types and I'm out.

[atomic turtle]

I can't be bothered to do all that math.

I know it's going to be astronomical anyway.

[hearty orbit]

is core strength any good or is it just a gimmic

[slate sparrow]

Is there any way to get the harrier pride or is it just gonzo

[hazy steeple]

@atomic turtle No AI content on this server, thanks.

Feel free to ping an active mod/ report that stuff if you see it, folks. We don't want it in here.

[atomic turtle]

Fair enough.

[spark mortar]

is nemesis any good for a sniper build?

[solar sable]

yea, although I wouldn't use it as a main and more as an option to get HH stacks on first kill*

[spark mortar]

im just missing 1 piece for it and wondered if it was worth

[ornate tendon]

hey guys just wondering how can i see my entire builds chc and chd not just the weapons stats

[atomic turtle]

If you want to deal meme damage you'll never use, Nemesis works fine.

You're better off just running a Model 700 with Determined.

[silent storm]

Does the Core Attributes stay where they are or will they level up?

[solar sable]

stats page in your Inventory

[ornate tendon]

@solar sable yeah i was looking in there and i could just see the weapons unless im completely blind i didnt see a overall chc and chd for the entire build

[solar sable]

What shows in that page is the build's stats, values may vary depending on Selected weapon

[desert wharf]

ummm why doesnt it let me turn it into a Prototype

[tall jackal]

unequip

[desert wharf]

ok tyty ima try it

[ornate tendon]

so the weapons stats are the entire build combined?

[solar sable]

yes, it doesn't add up your secondary or sidearm values btw
to see each value you have to swap your weapon in that menu

[hazy steeple]

(although you can see those, if you "hold to swap weapons" on the left side of your screen.)

[ornate tendon]

oh thank you, i just clicked on the CHC and it showed everything thank you

see im building the pesti loadout and i was wondering what my overall was since the weapon was saying 56.7% chc and 127.1% CHD but i didnt know that was the entire builds stat so thank you

[solar sable]

yup, those are your entire build's values with the selected weapon, if you change it so do the values

[ornate tendon]

okay thank you again

[lunar tiger]

just got an EB last night and looking for a strong build to go with it. seen some heartbreaker stuff but not sure if that's the best synergy. are there any really solid builds around EB for solo legendary stuff or is the weapon just that bad compared to other ARs?

[tulip charm]

Thing is its mainly a pvp gun due to no damage talent

[tranquil birch]

White Death or Ekim's Long Stick for a sniper build

[tulip charm]

WD has determined

[lunar tiger]

pretty unfortunate but i have seen a lot about how the gun isn't great. might slot it into a heartbreaker just to see but i dont have high hopes for it

[tranquil birch]

what are the thoughts on Harrier Pride Vs Memento?

[solar sable]

Memento is better

[tranquil birch]

all around or does harrier pride have something

[solar sable]

harrier is niche at most, the swapping is what killed it

[tranquil birch]

thats what I thought yeah

[solar sable]

plus you lose all stacks when out of combat

[hazy steeple]

Experimentation with your builds in div2 is important, it's how you find what you enjoy playing.

[tranquil birch]

oh yikes thats awful

[solar sable]

Memento is the Ol' Reliable for survivability + dmg when solo, it's just so good and is the hardest working exotic out there

[plush thistle]

so i was wondering does anyone have a build like hotshot that replinishes ammo so i can run all directives without issue? idc if what the build is just not hotshot as i have it done prefected already

[tranquil birch]

Shroud is such a tragic weapon cause MAN I wish it was better than just okay cause that model is tight

[solar sable]

the only thing that does that work is Hotshot

[solar sable]

pair it with Hotdogs and you get a powerful combo

[solar sable]

the other build I can think of is OD w/Tinkerer

[plush thistle]

its actually useful for final ko's on bosses when you max stack and wipe the floor with all other enemies with m700 to get that talent to proc and deal that much more damage to hopefully 1 shot them if numbers matter

[plush thistle]

lol i've been picking up a ton of exotics lately but i have not gotten one of those tinkerer yet lul thx thou ill take a look at that build and see if it'll work it seems that directive is a bit painful i try'd using my other builds and it destroyed me

[solar sable]

Tinkerer drops in Master Potomac Climax Mission and its crafting blueprint from Black Tusk Retaliations (Kill Squads)

You also have the build guide in the pinned Spreadsheet

[plush thistle]

ah that explains why i no got it yet i dont think i've ever done that mission

which mission on roosevelt am i suppose to run this on for a chance to drop?

[solar sable]

Potomac Center, not Roosevelt

it has to be the Climax Mission variant

[plush thistle]

ah gotchu the man hunt correct?

[solar sable]

yup, The Manager is the name

[tranquil birch]

Can you explain cause I'm a bit slow, Overdogs do the opposite so is it just good when every enemy is the same tier?

also is Bittersweet in the targeted pool?

[solar sable]

ovd amp applies to the lowest tier enemy
shroud amp applies to the highest tier enemy

i.e you can make use of their amps separately, they dont force you into focusing in hierarchy or anything, just point and shoot

[stark cipher]

@solar sable anything i can change? to make better?

[solar sable]

swap bag to Airaldi w/Vigilance and you get the 🌭 setup
you also need HSD and Weapon Handling as general attributes

[stark cipher]

okoke thanks!

[solar sable]

I can help u build it if you want

[stark cipher]

what is hsd?

[solar sable]

headshot dmg

[stark cipher]

ah thought it was ssomething else

[stark cipher]

i think i only need to farm for the airaldi bag no?

[solar sable]

and Chainkiller with both attributes previously mentioned

and Htotshot knees w/HSD

[stark cipher]

and is there a better weapon than white death?

[solar sable]

for Determined? nope
exotic wise? there are options, Mantis and Shroud e.g.

[plush thistle]

does 25 opt on a sniper add more range on a sniper before it vaporizes?

[solar sable]

optimal range? BiS attribute for any weapon is DTTOOC except LMGs

[stark cipher]

ohh okok

[stark cipher]

but i wont have determined with there exotics no?

[plush thistle]

no exotics have there own talent sadly be so op if you could

[solar sable]

nope

[plush thistle]

well reason i ask was cause some of dem outposts i can't hit npcs cause they so far out while defending outposts so was wondering if it would increase its range further or not

or if the gun was maxed out as is talking for marksmen rifles

[stark cipher]

ahh i see i see thanks! yall

[solar sable]

well yeah but the dmg dropoff will be affected whether you put optimal range on it or not

[plush thistle]

chc, stability, accuracy, chd for last attatchment then? hotshot marksmen rifle 3rd mod slot for gun would be most effective in your opinion?

[solar sable]

chc and chd dont fit on an MMR, go for mag size, accuracy, handling and stability mods

[plush thistle]

is there a point in going over 100% for accuracy or stability?

[solar sable]

not really, but if you overcap by a small amount it doesnt matter much

[hexed steppe]

stability at 100% is no scope sway while ads

[plush thistle]

does stability help with flinch at all? like when you get shot while in ads?

[hexed steppe]

idk, i never get shot

i dont think so tho

[plush thistle]

lol i usually use a decoy but uh can't do that no morez with all directives active makes my reviver hive useless is why i was wondering probably stick with accuracy then

[peak glen]

Anyone have a core strength build?

[civic meteor]

Would this be better with hunters fury since I’m getting in all close and such or is strikers ultimately better in the long run

[subtle bluff]

If you're enjoying it go for it.
Mp7 base weapons isn't good.

[hazy steeple]

Stability is vertical kick (outside of the special MMR interaction), accuracy is reticule bloom.

[ornate tendon]

@smoky latch Finally got that stupid bag 😂 so close for this build being done

[solar sable]

the only missing piece is PGC 😈

[smoky latch]

Good stuff, cheers 👌

[ornate tendon]

Yep I’m working on that now. Currently sitting at 54 chc 130+ chd

[ornate tendon]

That’s Petrov Glass Cannon correct?

[solar sable]

Perfect*

[ornate tendon]

Sweet.

[coral reef]

Trust us on this, you need PGC

[ornate tendon]

Then that’s what this build will get. Hopefully it’s faster getting that than the stupid bag.

4 days that bag took.

[coral reef]

I had way more trouble with the mask

[ornate tendon]

I got lucky with the mask on 3 crafts.

[tall jackal]

I trashed that build to start over lol

[ornate tendon]

So you want the named chest the sacrifice?

[solar sable]

ye

It should be easier to get unless lootcifer and rngesus hate u at the same time

[worn elbow]

Testing some setups with core strength rn

[ornate tendon]

I thought I had one already in the stash. I must of deleted it. But I like a grind. Thanks for the input though can’t wait to use it properly

[worn elbow]

With season modifiers I got 43 defensive stacks that gives 21.5 damage protection from elites

[ornate tendon]

@solar sable not bad for a single elite in DUA

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, which riffle has the most stability? I'm looking for a riffle that can spam headshot at range without releasing trigger.

[smoky latch]

UIC15 MOD2

[subtle bluff]

😶

[eager cloak]

Alright, I don't have one.

[smoky latch]

Accurate, slow firing - but you still need to hit the heads :p

[pine vortex]

Does the demolitionist explosive ordinance perk work with the ravenous explosion?

[sharp geyser]

hello guys im new to the game is this build can work https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/EwRgtADJblffRDIC5gBZmzAdgKzJJGrAHzY4BshNRKlOYwYAzDNCDm8TydlP1pC4aQYN48UIPAE5oOTBIQolk1bRUrhy9RCA

[subtle bluff]

Yes but it can crit too so....

[subtle bluff]

What SHD are you?

[sharp geyser]

50

[worn elbow]

Mrchow you can get 80% protection from elites with season modifiers

[worn elbow]

I tested it

[subtle bluff]

Dunno. I haven't mess with or really looked at the modifiers.

[pine vortex]

Noted-

[worn elbow]

Did a run with that setup and did around 300k to 400k I seen 400k time to time with Lexington with full memento stacks

[subtle bluff]

Still less than tech tanks.

[worn elbow]

Tech tanks?

[solar sable]

heartbreaker, memento and technician spec

[worn elbow]

Oh that one

[subtle bluff]

Or Striker

[strong cave]

Die instantly, well, bit of a stretch. I can take 2 or 4 bullets if health gate works properly. Then again, my damage is instant. The other guy has to stack first for that damage

[strong cave]

the only bystanders I'm about to run over are my damn managers at my weekday job

[strong cave]

How you finding the new update chow?

I already grinded out the Black Tusk blueprints in one day. They're genuinely hard, especially the BT9 squads. The comms on those has me genuinely scared for just how strong the black tusk are starting to get moving forward with the lore

[subtle bluff]

Played 6hr only of it. 3 incursion run.

Maybe more than that.
Ya I need to retal black tusk and see how hard it is.

[lone glacier]

BT retal are honestly quite fun

[ornate tendon]

Not sure if I just get unlucky but my solo heroic bt retal only thing that makes them hard for me is the 50 bloody robot dogs that yeet the nade launcher at you.

[buoyant perch]

Bt doesn't feel any different from regular retal

[strong cave]

They're super hard. Their AI is jacked up pretty good. They move like Rogues/Hunters and hit like Legendary scaling

[vernal cliff]

what's the best combo for the new gear set currently? all skill tier? all blue or red core?

[strong cave]

For PvE, nothing. But I'm getting word of mouth from the PvP community that it's absolutely broken. You can have nearly 5 red cores, 6 blue cores and 6 skill tiers and hit like an all red build with capacitor

[devout knoll]

Is there anyone that has rolled a prototype with the other stat being anywhere from rock bottom?

6 pieces of prototype and 1 stat always maxed, the other stats rock bottom.

[strong cave]

^^ intended to be that way

[subtle bluff]

Kay!

[devout knoll]

Didnt they say there is a small change for you to actually roll off of minimum?

[strong cave]

You have a chance to have other attributes go up to max value

[devout knoll]

Is it that small XD?

[strong cave]

Extremely. 1 roll guaranteed, the other 50%. I think the last one was .3%

They may have changed it just slightly or something. I'm not sure. You probably got unlucky

[devout knoll]

I was exited for the first 3 seconds of rolling my lexington as it was fully maxed, until i relogged.

[strong cave]

Yup that's a visual bug. And you've now bricked it

[devout knoll]

I dont see it that way, i use it for what i use it for and wasnt planning to adjust it anyways.

[strong cave]

I refuse to "upgrade" my gear until they develop a better system. I'm treating it like beta content

[devout knoll]

I got more where that came from too so if im unhappy i can always use another.

[strong cave]

Did you get health damage?

[devout knoll]

Weapon

[strong cave]

You got the luckier stat then. DTTOC would've been more valuable

[devout knoll]

An upgrade is an upgrade.

[misty fjord]

20$ is 20$

[devout knoll]

It didnt take long whatsoever either way, i suppose the most annoying part now is rerolling the prototype talent.

[misty fjord]

what kind of build i need to use to one shot with shourd and nemesis?

[plush thistle]

hotshot is an option

[strong cave]

True but if it's health damage it's a useless stat. Doesn't apply to things with armor until you delete their armor. Not the best upgrade. Some would say having a swappable talent would be better

[devout knoll]

I mean, not many better then killer for solo play. Its all about preferance.

[misty fjord]

thats the only option i guess?

[plush thistle]

that im aware of yes core builds are new and idk much about them yet but maybe that will be possible using some of those pieces and modifiers

[devout knoll]

Is there a picture of all prototype talents currently in the reroll pool?

[plush thistle]

how do i find this build guild in the spread sheet on here?

[misty fjord]

i think the spreadsheet is outdated

[misty fjord]

oh

what site is this?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Message has a bunch of stuff

[plush thistle]

lol im so lost i guess ill just ask can you post the od/tinkerer build pic for me i'm trying to navigate and find it but i'm lost haha

[subtle bluff]

Build Hub

[misty fjord]

ty

[torpid dirge]

Hey
How can i change core attribute??

[subtle bluff]

Tinkering Station

[thorn glade]

Hi there, rookie agent from japan here
What talents do you use with TDI Kard? I'm using ridgeway's pride build with stinger and explosive mine, and primary is carnage

[livid sorrel]

the named one with the skill tier?

[thorn glade]

yes yes

It gains +1 skill tier while holding right?

[livid sorrel]

usually it's used with the revive hive to revive a teammate without using your own charge

[thorn glade]

I see

[thorn glade]

so it's not usual way to use it?

i use it for more skill damage

[livid sorrel]

you'd want a dedicated yellow build if youre using hives and seekers

[thorn glade]

hmm

[thorn glade]

i use those skills to bleed the enemys, but is it not good choices?

[livid sorrel]

ridgeway's pride just isn't that good to be worth building around

[thorn glade]

hmm, i see

[lone glacier]

Not many exotic gear pieces worth using tbh

[plush thistle]

so looking at this build of od and was wondering opinions for those that know of it use tinkerer or overdogs for exotic? and what backpack for high end? or other suggestions

[subtle bluff]

Let me break this down:
DOTs Status Effects that don't have a way of scaling there base numbers aren't good.
The bleed DOT is the lowest DPS of all the DOT dmg effects.
Ridgeway Pride is kind of bait Chest piece due to not having any DMG real DMG buffs.

[frosty rivet]

Iam not at my computer to send a picture of my current one but does anyone have a build for shroud? I use hotshot mainly

[frosty rivet]

Oh, I guess I can just swap one of them for shroud?

[thorn glade]

This is my build btw
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwZgtArGAMYExgIwxbNqMOgLkQNkniITiw3QtW2AA4jxlZFEzK2q5woTzf21qXMOFZ8xAuLDjBi4uQIDsyGQqjc1CGlDbZOATjAE9dRBCimFSCAVN0d0htsKIDeZDTvlseXY3nYQP34YIA

[plush thistle]

yes you dont have to use both weapons in picture its just super convenient to have 1 high end marksmen rifle with talent determined for easy kills

[frosty rivet]

Why vigilance instead of something like opportunistic?

[plush thistle]

because the point is to kill them in 1 bullet

[subtle bluff]

You're trying to one shot not 2 shot.

[frosty rivet]

Fair, saves me from trying to farm a unicorn the setup

[subtle bluff]

Ya not a great build. Don't forget you need to be pretty close for Ridgeway to work and that is a trap itself.

[frosty rivet]

Thank you btw

[thorn glade]

i see

[plush thistle]

sure thing; i didnt make it though these people did just reposted it

[frosty rivet]

Iam just glad the bag will be easy to farm

[plush thistle]

yes i never understood the point in farming harsburg as it mostly rolls blue cores when airlodi rolls red cores almost every drop seemed silly to me

[subtle bluff]

Good there isn't a good reason.

It's like 5 more WD over Chainkiller

yes you can some HSD but in the end 20 more HSD overall isn't that much in the end.

[frosty rivet]

I think hasburg is 1pc headshot damage as opposed to araldri 3p

[plush thistle]

nah both are 1 piece but hasburg gets like 3% more head shot dmg

[frosty rivet]

Oh, not sure what set I was thinking about then

[plush thistle]

oh thats right no its 13% head shot damage and 10% weapon damage

hasburg vs airldi

[subtle bluff]

Only reason Hasburg does lil more is the more WD. The HSD helps Very lil.

[viral veldt]

is The Gift > Air > Has?

[frosty rivet]

I guess anyone minmaxing for escalation might want it

[subtle bluff]

2pc Has > Air > Prov/Has

[subtle bluff]

You can't HH past a point in escalation anyways.

[viral veldt]

oh i just realized yes i meant in reverse lol as in gift lowest then has highest

[subtle bluff]

Things have too much HP.

[frosty rivet]

Dam

[scenic vault]

I just came back after a 2-3 years break. I checked the new Striker meta and wondering if there are veterans around tell me why did we switch from Sacrifice/Vigilance builds and Regulus builds? These still seem to have the best TTK so wondering why the deviation in meta?

[frosty rivet]

Probably because striker builds are more comfortable and overall easier to obtain

[ivory abyss]

Pretty sure striker was also the meta 2-3 years ago

[scenic vault]

When I stopped, it was mostly Sacrifice/Gift everywhere unless we are doing speedruns then some other deviations but either way, Strikers were not common back then.

[ivory abyss]

That’s def not true lol

[scenic vault]

ok 👍

[ivory abyss]

Strikers has been a top meta pve set for ages now. It’s been in spreadsheets. Guides. Everything

[subtle bluff]

Still is... it hasn't change. The Skill level on newer has....

Other things get near it and aren't GC anymore.

[scenic vault]

Ya I did notice that it gets close without being as squishy.

[ivory abyss]

Strikers is just put it on and play. Set it and forget it type of set. Don’t need to worry about taking amplified damage. Or getting hit and losing damage. Just shoot and kill

[spark mortar]

put on striker
get full auto weapon
???
profit

also lowkey iron lung is like 10x better than st elmo’s for a striker build it’s crazy

half the time when you stun em with shock rounds they get hunched over, but when they’re on fire they’ll stand straight up

[boreal tulip]

Is there a talent/brand/gear that can help nullifying the electric shock from staying still for longer duration modifier in escalation tier 6 onwards?

[tall jackal]

Haz Pro prob

[subtle bluff]

imo don't stay still

[mild dawn]

move to not trigger it more worth than going for haz pro

[tall jackal]

That'll work

[covert owl]

Is this build good?

[summer totem]

Need a short explanation on the new gear set, can anyone give

[ivory abyss]

It gives % based core stats that are different from the base core on it. Cool set. Doesn’t seem very good though

[summer totem]

Yeah im dumb

But the not very good i got it

[strong cave]

It's sadly replacing umbra in pvp right now

I wanted an umbra replacement but not something cheesy like this

[summer totem]

For a drone turret build its good yes?

[covert owl]

any good build advice for beginner?

[ivory abyss]

What’s the PvP set up people are using?

[ivory abyss]

I know people have made some builds with it for that I just don’t know if it beats out the current turret drone builds

[summer totem]

What's the average damage of the current turret drone builds?

The new gear set feels like the skill equivalent of strikers set

[frozen hull]

I really wanted core strength to be good but I just don’t see any use for it

[obsidian bronze]

my investor mask has skill tier, haz proc, chc and armor regen is it worth keeping as is or trying to reroll?

[ivory abyss]

Same

[frozen hull]

Disappointing too cause it really had some potential and maybe I just am not finding the right combination to mar hybrid .. I just don’t see it being in one of my load outs

[summer totem]

Wasted all my skill damage to fill it in a 4 piece new gear set

[dapper glacier]

what make it cheesy?

[summer totem]

Idk if 320k turret and drone damage is good

Since this is my first drone turret build

[ivory abyss]

That sounds good but I am not experienced in that kind of build. I know people like refractor turret drone because you get heals

[summer totem]

Made heroic retaliation solos a breeze tho

[grizzled garnet]

refractor or HE?

[summer totem]

New gear set

[ivory abyss]

He’s using the new core str

[grizzled garnet]

isnt that... pretty bad of a gearset?

[ivory abyss]

He’s saying he’s getting 320k per bullet damage in turret drone with it

[summer totem]

I used demolisher so i probably will deal more after i max out my tactician

[grizzled garnet]

320k/shot doesnt count too bad. the drone and turret have decent ROF

[mild dawn]

the new set gives 5 skill efficiency and whatever sloppy seconds you get from the extra one or three non-skilltier cores (if bp that has 3 cores)

[summer totem]

So 6 skill core is pointless?

[uncut yarrow]

unless youre running a skill build with it. but then i dont see much of a quality skill build coming from it

[summer totem]

Im running a turret drone build with it

[mild dawn]

skill builds want skill cores and the set doesnt give anything per skill core for skill builds

[fickle moss]

Anyone happen to have a good skill build they can send me like a picture of or something, don’t have anything particular in mind, just want something powerful to switch it up so I’m not just always running striker

[summer totem]

Alr imma try, 3 piece of the new gear set, ninja bag, hana u holster and empress kneepads

[summer totem]

If you're running turret or drone try what i just mentioned

[grim bluff]

Refactor head, holster, hands, kneepads, hana u chest with kinetic momentum and backpack with tech support, capacitor or test subject for weapon. Skill damage on everything skill haste on mods

[summer totem]

@grim bluff how do you trigger overload

[fickle moss]

I can craft capacitor, should I run both as my weapons or one or the other as I can craft a capacitor after a bit of grinding and can grab test from the vendor

[fickle moss]

There’s a few things I’ve found, the Acosta go bag can, maybe you can do it with strategist as it grants a bonus skill tier but I’m not certain, for Acosta it’s definitley not ideal as it’s 15s on a 60s cooldown, btsu would work if you’re running hive as toy can detonate it and give the party overcharge for 15s no cooldown

I know there’s more out there but I’m still new to this so I don’t know every source of overcharge yet

[grim bluff]

Can always use future perfect on a backup weapon

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, which skill snapshots overcharge?

[fickle moss]

So what should I run for the weapons for the build you suggested? Both test and capacitor or either of the two and a future perfect weapon or something else?

[quartz flame]

so whats the best approach to the new brand set? blue red or yellow core main?

[grim bluff]

One or the other, depending on which you prefer

[strong cave]

You get nearly 5 damage cores (2x15%, rest is 7.5% from skill tiers and capacitor), 6 skill tiers, and full armor. You hit nearly the same as a full red build with it in pvp. Absolutely broken

[grim bluff]

In sync takes one shot, capacitor takes more shooting

[strong cave]

I'm choosing not to play PVP at all because new seasons introduce more broken builds

[fickle moss]

So I’m curious, if I’m running a tier 6 build and pull out the Kard do I go into overcharge or does the +1 skill tier do nothing

[summer totem]

Wait a minute, if i run 7 skill core with future perfect i could run 10 skill cores

[grim bluff]

It's just a passive +1 not overcharge

[fickle moss]

So does 7 skill tier do anything or would it just be a waste

[summer totem]

And using the new gear set that scales skill efficiency to the amount of skill cores you have

You could probably deal 400k turret or drone damage

[summer totem]

Not with the new gear set if im not wrong

[fickle moss]

Dang

Also is there anything worth having for any sort of build that’s dz exclusive for Uzina Getica?

[summer totem]

Could be wrong, im relatively new to skill builds, been using AR, Sniper, and LMG builds most of the time

[fickle moss]

I’ve just been running 6 red striker this whole time and want something new

[summer totem]

You only need 4

Id suggest using either memento or overdogs exotic

[fickle moss]

My current builds I wanna get set up now are a skill build then I wanna make a tank build in prep for whenever they buff skill and blue builds to be as ideal as red builds

[summer totem]

And use equalizer chest piece

[fickle moss]

I’ve got overdogs on and use the chest and backpack from striker to buff the gear set

Backpack makes the stacks for striker more potent

[summer totem]

Get equalizer chest piece

[fickle moss]

So then I also gotta get a striker mask to maintain my 4 pieces

Cus I was told to run a grupo mask which is my current mask

[grim bluff]

The chest stacks are great but not many ideal situations to keep them up, using unit alloys with obliterate or the named version equaliser is a lot easier to get going

[odd perch]

What's a decently fun solo build for higher difficulties? I have a striker build that does great DPS, but solo I'm extremely squishy and unless I'm playing like a sweat it just gets super annoying. I also have a tank build but my damage is a wet noodle.

[mild dawn]

play long enough sweaty and it becomes the new default and you can keep playing that way without any extra sweat

[fickle moss]

Is refractor a gear set? Also I have something called impetus but it’s Wyvern but it has perfect kinetic momentum, also what should I run for a secondary weapon and is the backpack also supposed to be Hana u?

[viral veldt]

tech tank striker or pfe striker are good if you want to keep that playstyle

[odd perch]

Just depends I'm always open for different styles like gadgets. It's been awhile since I played. In using St Elmo's and all Red and do great damage. I feel that build is just a combo of the two I have which could work

[mild dawn]

@fickle moss #td2-build-advice message
rooty tooty point n shooty refactor turret/drone hybrid setups

[viral veldt]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1wZI1ZEwq3qQxGwmdPnVXcGHxf7D2-xOLRm0m7bfDTlE/edit
generally you toss in some blue cores and play around your shield but keep good damage

[grim bluff]

Refactor sorry, my phone auto corrected it to Refractor. I hate swiftkey. Yes Hana U for backpack as well.

[viral veldt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvCTi9l-s&t=1766s for PFE this guy I watched has a crazy tanky build for high end content. 26:9 he shows a snapshot but its everything rolled CHC and PFE mods

[flint arch]

PFE is only good against its namesake, which means it'll work well in Master, but not Legendary

reds and purples will still shred you to bits

[viral veldt]

yeah didnt know how high he wanted to go lol for heroic otherwise techtank is a good mix of not having to sweat about your health

[obsidian bronze]

my investor mask has skill tier, haz proc, chc and armor regen is it worth keeping as is or trying to reroll?

[teal heron]

this is a change that i thing would make heartbreker more sustainable by making it so that stacks break faster and bonus armour is regenerating while one is in a fight. what do you guys thing

[bright raptor]

No

[flint arch]

so Striker with extra punishing Vigilance

[teal heron]

my idea was more on a way to get Bonus Armor while in a fight

[flint arch]

yes but if you're getting shot on Legendary or something you're going to immediately lose all of your bonus armor, so it's like if you lost all of your Striker stacks if you get hit

[bright raptor]

then you make it so refreshing stacks regenerates bonus armor as well

[grim bluff]

Just change the bonus armour to be a separate stack and have it break/degrade separately, losing your damage from taking damage is awful lol

[bright raptor]

not "all your damage vanishes when tagged by a red in Legendary"

[summer totem]

Sniper

[civic meteor]

would this be better with hunter's fury or should I stick to strikers?

[quartz flame]

the +1 skill tier from technician doesnt apply to the new brandset since its not really a core right?

[flint arch]

both can work with a similar setup, but ditch oxpecker, it's a bad exotic

[magic reef]

backfire or ouroboros?

[summer totem]

Ouroboros lowkey situational

While backfire deals higher dps

I usually use ouroboros with directives

[magic reef]

Well the thing is, ouroboros has some crazy ass rpm so it’s dps is technically higher

I feel like it was a lot easier to build stacks with ouroboros

[flint arch]

i successfuly misread the misreading of my message, great

[summer totem]

Fair

[flint arch]

backfire has a similar problem with striker chest. you're rarely going to find enemies that are tanky enough to maintain the stacks

[summer totem]

And doesnt have the debuff too

[flint arch]

ouroboros is better for general use

[magic reef]

I got some bleed resistance from the modifiers so its much more manageable

[summer totem]

I'd say use them both

[flint arch]

but if you're going to use striker chest, might as well use backfire. striker chest is only better in stuff like legendary where the enemies have large health pools

[summer totem]

Ouroboros for weak npcs, backfire for bosses

[magic reef]

Is equalizer better for ouroboros then

[flint arch]

meh, the RoF from 1 UA piece isn't a lot

[uncut yarrow]

that was my first build that got me into being able to run Heroic countdown and such. striker backfire with 100% bleed resist

[flint arch]

backfire hazpro

you can just spam reload 3 times to negate the bleed y'know, you don't need hazpro, it just nerfs your damage

[uncut yarrow]

that sounds dumb

i also like being immune to everything so i can just run around and barrel stuff everything

[flint arch]

you become immune to a status effect once you're inflicted with it 3 times in quick sucession

so if you spam reload 3 times you give yourself bleed 3 times, and the game then makes you immune to bleed temporarily

[uncut yarrow]

id rather just never get the status, any status

[magic reef]

well for like the perfect obliterate talent

[flint arch]

better for general use

[sinful tinsel]

is the striker with equalizer and overdogs better than striker with salvo and equalizer

[livid sorrel]

yeah it's a bigger dps gain

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers

[grizzled garnet]

ouro and lexi. lexi for long range, ouro for bursting down close range

ouro can also build stacks

[magic reef]

If only I had the lexington 😓

[eager cloak]

Hello??? I thought the named stats are free upgrades???

[summer totem]

Is the bonus skill core in tactician counted in the new gear set?

Wrong reply

[eager cloak]

I just dump 45 exotic components for 19% accuracy...

[summer totem]

Good now hit the casino

[latent hazel]

idk where else i can put pictures but who is the person that was behind the fence then ran away

[eager cloak]

According to the PTS, named attributes are always max-rolled regardless of probability (for example, HSD on White Death or DTOC on Fox's Prayer)
Alright, it seems I misread it.
I thought the named attributes are free upgrades, so it would always at least max two stats when you upgrade named items.

Basically, the first attribute are always the named stats, then it rolls 5% to decide if you can get your second maxed attribute.

[civic meteor]

I’m so deadass the oxpecker gives me so much survivability it’s gonna take me a long time to adapt and I don’t even know what I should switch too

[flint arch]

any smg will do

you can run tech spec w/ artificer hive to heal your shield. you don't need to deploy the hive for it to work

[pastel crane]

So, what's the play on the new gear set, Core Strength? Is it viable?

[dawn bane]

I got a all red crit chance crit dam build for bighorn but i have been reading that weapon handling go a long way, how much weapon handling should I give for the bighorn striker or is it not that necessary?

[oblique bane]

Hello, do you gus know if big al is in the general exotic pool? I missed the last season pass

[dawn bane]

Big al should be in the blueprint pool for true sons under retaliation. Drops from kill squads tho

[oblique bane]

Sorry I'm a bit rusty I haven't played a lot in last 3 years, can I farm it?

[dawn bane]

Correction, completion reward for retal. Sorry

[dawn bane]

Should be, blue print should drop under true sons retal when i saw the list. The gun itself? Probably rng general drop but not sure on that

[oblique bane]

Is that retaliation thing a new mechanic? I assume ues cause I don't remember it

[dawn bane]

Im not quite sure when it released since I am a new player, but this season should have a heavy uptick in players playing retals because it now has match making. Basically just a control point rush w/ kill squads in between (rng based but most of the time they spawn atleast once). Honestly, I have more fun doing retals than doing several countdown matches

[oblique bane]

How can I start retaliations? Sorry if that's not the proper channel to discuss such things

[dawn bane]

Plus the blueprints have a high chance to drop even just doing challenging, but best to do on heroic but challenging is still decent for blueprints

Just go on the map and under matching making it should be on the very right and it should have retaliations as an option

Ive gotten the bighorn, eagle bearer, overdogs, memento blue prints all from retals. Plus it also gives the blueprints from the control points themselves which can give you the general drop pool blue prints as well like weapon mods or even tactical assessment blueprints for crafting

Plus it is fun haha, more variety

You can also trigger your own retaliations by just screwing with the enemy faction like killing them, capturing their control points in open world, doing missions etc

Question: do i need weapon handling on bighorn for my striker build, like one core for weapon handling or that would not matter much in the long run?(PVE)

[smoky latch]

He's to stubborn 😄

[versed summit]

headshot everywhere. I use eagles grasp on my bighorn build, but it's technically suboptimal

[stone python]

Someone posted this build on D2's subreddit. Is it good?

[versed summit]

no

good lord that is actually the worst, I don't know why they'd do that

[livid sorrel]

reddit is full of builds that aren't that good

[hazy steeple]

Without being able to check, is the Modifier set to status effects?

Since it's a Pesti, people assume it's status a lot.

[smoky latch]

Bro it's mind blowing

[versed summit]

at first I was like, "oh they replaced waveform on their HE skill build, that's fine"

It's so much worse

[hazy steeple]

I would put e-credits down on it being a status build.

too much yellow.

[livid sorrel]

the hana-u, lengmo, and gc makes me think it's a pesti drone hybrid

[stone python]

Dang this guy is lucky or used a ton of mats.

[dawn bane]

Ive been debating whether to get eagles grasp or just equip the classic overdogs. Does it make a big difference?

[smoky latch]

Here's another one

[hazy steeple]

I can't think of a case where Eagle's Grasp would be better than Overdogs for the vast majority of builds.

[livid sorrel]

good lord

[hazy steeple]

possibly any? I might be missing some niche setup.

[soft crane]

STOP IT

I just got here and its hideous.

[versed summit]

100% mats

[dawn bane]

If I sacrifice one core just for weapon handling on a bighorn, is it worth to do it or no?

[soft crane]

All these hybrid builds makes me sick.

[livid sorrel]

had a guy with nbb 3 CS and 2 other gearset pieces join my legendary capitol earlier

[versed summit]

what context are you using bighorn? I really only use it in niche scenarios, it kind of sucks to use

[versed summit]

not objectively better because handling is less preferable then damage in the grand scheme of things, but a lil handling is nice to have sometimes

[versed summit]

not noticeable IMO

[dawn bane]

Just doing a build for openworld, countdowns, retals, or just general content tbh. Got a heartbreaker to do it but wanted to do a striker bighorn variant

[versed summit]

are you going crit or headshot?

[dawn bane]

Currently on crit, but debating on switching to headshot for the bighorn but for general content since there also other enemies without heads like dogs or drones

[versed summit]

I mean, it doesn't really matter. you can take a hit to your damage for a little weapon handling, eagles is probably the best way to do that IMO.

Bighorn is already not really optimal, but you can use whatever you want for that content for the most part.

[hazy steeple]

If you check the Modifiers for this season, you have all the WH you could ever want. Too much, almost.

[livid sorrel]

this season's modifiers is probably my favorite one yet

[versed summit]

i mean, you can build for crit and use bighorn on headshots primarily, it still does a lot of damage, and you don't lose too much damage on things that don't take hsd damage.

[dawn bane]

I see, thank you!

[hazy steeple]

2nd favourite so far, 3rd being the companions before, who were good reviver bots when I was playing terribly. read: tired.
this season is great because if you ignore the complex stuff, it's all just pure stat buffs.

[smoky latch]

I like them too, plenty options. Nothing too op and something for everyone. People saying "omg I have to study this first, nobody got time for that" are just lazy and ignorant. If you get the pattern it's np

[livid sorrel]

it's just math

[smoky latch]

You don't even have to do much math

[dawn bane]

Btw, is there another okay skill to use on a refactor gearset w/ btsu other than the standard drones and hive? Is it worth doing seeker drones or a firefly on a refactor 4 piece? Assuming that skill chance is okay

[smoky latch]

Not really. You need turret drone to be most effective

[worn elbow]

53% is the highest I ever got rn of weapon handling

[versed summit]

with BTSU specifically you need hive to get any advantage out of it.

[smoky latch]

Ah, a fellow WH enjoyer, cheers

[worn elbow]

And you can get 43% hazard protection with shd skill tree 10% that’s 53%

[hazy steeple]

If that is the highest (I've not played a lot with the Modifers yet), then that's a massive boost.

[dawn bane]

Been using the hive and i have been having a lot of fun doing skill damage and heals, but kinda wanted to know if there is other skills to pair with the hive other than turret drone

[hazy steeple]

that's a what, 53% reload+swap+accuracy+stability buff.

[worn elbow]

It’s really really op for tp builds especially with using big ale

You could never lose your stacks due to reload time

[livid sorrel]

i'd hate to spoil it but ||you can get 65 in one stack||

[smoky latch]

Mag size can also make sense but it depends on ones weapons of choice

[grizzled garnet]

what does the new global modifier do for skills again?

[worn elbow]

65% how

[livid sorrel]

2 saturates and converge

[worn elbow]

Just for one stack of any buff?

Or just for gun handling

[livid sorrel]

For the base buffs without converts

[hazy steeple]

I've left the Utility Active Modifier on with my red DPS setup.
It means I can basically spam banshee+decoy, which feels like a season-long Overdrive.

Actually now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder if Banshee is affected by Status.

[mild dawn]

split offense, saturate utility and then invert offense for 55 offense 30 defense

[dawn bane]

Does saving a loadout also saves the loadout for the seasonal modifier or do you have to manually switch each time you switch to a completely different build?

[versed summit]

pretty sure you'll need to manually switch it

[ivory abyss]

This is very annoying lol

[versed summit]

fr

[keen spire]

How do healers revive down teammates so quickly

[livid sorrel]

Birdies backpack has a big revive speed buff

[obsidian lava]

Got these two on heroic space museum run

[worn elbow]

Holy what’s artorias doing in the division

Mate you supposed to be dead

[obsidian lava]

Looking for my Dawg Sif🐩

[woeful zodiac]

Can anyone recommend me a good Tempest build?
I have a temporary placeholder with Intimidate and Bloodsucker with the Claws Out holster

[strong cave]

Definitely keep acostas for the extra grenades. When equipping the bag, you'll get more grenades. They'll stick even if you take the bag off

[uncut yarrow]

And then, you'll never throw em

[restive walrus]

any tanky dps build advice?

[versed summit]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1FK5UVrVAf6figTcEyg9EhxmuX4mL--7eLxyr-QP1UpM/edit?usp=sharing this is nice

[versed summit]

use memento & a shield, and maybe some blue cores, thats tanky enough while still having good enough damage for solo, I wouldn't push it for group content tho

[restive walrus]

im using this rn

[strong cave]

Untrue. I constantly toss grenades to force enemies out of cover. Acostas is Goated for the extra grenades

[restive walrus]

so i will ad memento and a blue cores right?

[versed summit]

I wouldn't recommend striker chest for most content, look for an equalizer named unit alloys chest piece and replace the gloves.

You can also use that equalizer chest piece, find a striker mask, and do the memento thing

[strong cave]

Ceska obliterate is also acceptable

[versed summit]

imma be real with you chief, I'm not doing all that for extra grenades

[strong cave]

You equip it and take it off lol

[static ermine]

Can you get Big Ale from the general loot pool now? I missed the event.

[worn elbow]

Retaliation get blueprint craft it

[strong cave]

Should be true sons I believe

[worn elbow]

Yep

But are they truly sons?

[versed summit]

false sons moment

[static ermine]

Thanks for the tip, appreciate it guys!

[worn elbow]

Your welcome good luck farming

[flint arch]

false sons, true daughters

[cold pasture]

Does the striker and memento combo is still good, combined with st elmo (focus on PvE)

[flint arch]

yes, but it will fall off in groups

[sullen night]

Striker + Memento is fine for solo, though I'd recommend using striker backpack in groups

[cold pasture]

Sure, i will not using it for groups hahah

[sullen night]

I ran striker+memento for a long time, eventually swapped to striker backpack instead when I felt a little bit more confident 😬

[worn elbow]

Still works but st backpack for group runs

[restive walrus]

how can i farm for memento? just do countdown with backpack targeted loot?

[cold pasture]

Noted then, thanks bunch

[versed summit]

yep, that or retals for the blueprint

[cold pasture]

I got it from the summit

[restive walrus]

spesific retal or anyone?

[sullen night]

Yea it's in the general loot pool, targeted BP loot and exotic rewards

Oh Memento has a BP too in retal? Guess that's a good way then

[hazy steeple]

don't make me post Mulan gifs.

[versed summit]

outcasts

[worn elbow]

Almost every exotic bp is in retaliation

[restive walrus]

thanks a lot

[worn elbow]

Apart from regulas

[cold pasture]

Completion drops from retals is 100% or just a small chance to get the BP?

[flint arch]

50% on heroic

[cold pasture]

I see

[worn elbow]

Thanks for the pic @solar sable

[misty walrus]

god roll

[narrow iris]

-2062.0% headshot damage

[flint arch]

You heal the enemy on a headshot

[hoary raptor]

Anyone got a birdies quick fix build which can run like T4/5 escalations? Obviously needs some type of Dps and survival

[flint arch]

none. birdie's is something you hotswap to when someone is downed or dead, it's not something you keep wearing

[copper holly]

Is the sheriff any good

[vernal glen]

Hey so is 60% the max CHC? If I try to go beyond does it still count or 60 is max whatever I do?

[smoky latch]

It's a good secondary

[flint arch]

anything above 60 is wasted

[smoky latch]

Cap is 60%, yes. Unless there are events active that allow you to go beyond

[vernal glen]

Thank you sir

[midnight grail]

Working on putting together a ravenous general pve build. Mostly solo. Anyone have any builds they like to use as suggestion. Thanks!

[smoky latch]

Personally I wouldn't recommend using it for general play

[strong cave]

Each headshot you do hurts you instead

[strong cave]

That one scene in Mulan: 🤢 (pretend this emoji isn't green but instead was fed Oatmeal by a Dragon)

[sinful tinsel]

ive just realised why my build was so bad on xbox, i didnt know you could set targeted loot in countdown at the time

[strong cave]

😭

[sinful tinsel]

i know now but ive just remembered i didnt back then and then complained that exos werent dropping

[silver peak]

so for heartbreaker, im interested in the new investor mask
right now with coyotes at at close range you can hit 154 crit damage but only at close range

with investor rolled to all three reds you would be at 147% at all times

would this be better in the long run?

pics are with cyotes, does not include buff from ithm

im leaning towards that its ok to sacrifice a little crit damage in order to have a overall higher number at all times

[strong cave]

You'd benefit more from overdogs

[sinful tinsel]

overdogs are my beloved

[flint arch]

i hate overdogs, PVGC is better

[hot trellis]

Bro gives health when he headshots

[fervent seal]

Would running two piece of habsburg, 3 piece of eclipse protocol and ninja bike be too much status effect for riot foam? Or should i run the courier to spread the effect?

[candid marlin]

what should i run if i wanna run tinkerer with pyromaniac ?

[versed summit]

just no

[fervent seal]

no for riot foam?

[versed summit]

also no... tinkerer doesn't work with named items

[candid marlin]

oh rightttt

[versed summit]

no for all of it. 3 pc haps & nbb with eclipse.

[solar sable]

why courier? You already have EP doing that work and better

[versed summit]

for foam go courier 4pc EP and electrique

[versed summit]

spread the foam on hit instead of just on kill, it also ignores door bounds

[solar sable]

I would rather use Opp to be a good support user

[versed summit]

it's BiS IMO

[solar sable]

interesting

[fervent seal]

what is nbb?

[mild dawn]

noob bait backpack ninjabike backpack

[versed summit]

that's good too, and preferred by some, but eh

[versed summit]

ninja bike backpack

[flint arch]

I use courier because I suck at foaming

[solar sable]

I guess personal preference comes at play on this

[solar sable]

git gud bro

[flint arch]

you still haven't carried me sir

[versed summit]

yeah, in the guide both are recommended, IMO courier makes sense as the default though. foam is the priority

[fervent seal]

so do i or do i not use courier

[solar sable]

use this ☝️

[versed summit]

courier or the setup, dealer's choice

[fervent seal]

ok

does 3 piece future initiative, 2 piece of the gorilla brand set and 1 nbb sound good for heals?

[versed summit]

ninja bike is pretty much useless for PvE

[flint arch]

it will if you're doing challenging

[versed summit]

lets not kid ourselves, it'd do fine on heroic

[flint arch]

yeah im aware

[versed summit]

it's still just worse for no reason lmao

[flint arch]

future initiative guide

[fervent seal]

so basically try not to run nbb if possible?

[versed summit]

4 pc FI BTSU gloves, and the setup is preferred

[flint arch]

in PVE, yes, NBB is always the worse option

[fervent seal]

ok thank you

[fickle sparrow]

just got ravenous.... can anyone summarise a build for it....off top off my head im thinkin 2 pc breaking point 2 .....2 pc zoo.....foxes prayer maybe and urrmm overdogs? roll into crits instead of headshots i take it? iv already got it like a laser beam using the new modifiers so no need for weapon handling

[versed summit]

breaking point won't be worth it if you're going crit. 2 pc prov or ceska grupo would help more.

[fickle sparrow]

@versed summit ok ty...but keep the 2pc zoo?

[flint arch]

3pc zoo

[versed summit]

if he doesn't need handling

[fickle sparrow]

@flint archnot needed iv solved the weapon handling issue with the new modifier

[flint arch]

then ceska

i am personally of the opinion that builds shouldn't rely on any modifiers to work well

[spark spire]

I agree with that sentiment.

[fickle sparrow]

so 2 pc prov ....a ceska and grupo ....overdogs then foxes prayer yeh...all rolled into crit guys?

[versed summit]

if you're going to use modifiers who cares at that point.

[flint arch]

[versed summit]

I'd still take 2 pc zoo over 2 pc prov. if you go perfect glass and vigi, then take prov over ceska grupo. if that makes sense

[fickle sparrow]

@versed summit it does...il mull over the benefitsd of both once i see both built then decide...ty both for suggestions

think i will go zoo as prov 1st bonus is headshot damage whilst zoo has straight up rifle damage...il try get the crit chance i need off ceska/gear mods and minor rolls

[smoky latch]

Bruh don't call it zoo. It's like calling it LLC in English 😄

Zwiadowka

[magic pilot]

i mean we call ceska vyroba just ceska

[worn charm]

So call it zwia, not zoo 😂

[fickle sparrow]

the irony of all this is my ingame names zool and people keep calling me zoo too 😜

[worn charm]

Its something like Recon, LLC. Just polish 😂

[smoky latch]

Limited liability company (LLC) - Z.o.o

[flint arch]

I'll call it Sp then

[sinful tinsel]

how does weapon damage hold up on skill builds with the capacitor

[worn imp]

Can you farm for Investor somehow?

[smoky latch]

Season pass atp

[worn imp]

I know, but how do you then farm it to get better rolls?

[smoky latch]

You re-roll it

[worn imp]

wait im dumb just reconfig

[smoky latch]

I'm not sure if it enters your personal loot pool once you get it from the season pass

[versed summit]

they haven't recently

[smoky latch]

What I thought of, yeah

[sinful tinsel]

are the overdogs still best in slot for sniping builds

[solar sable]

yeah

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers

[spark spire]

I feel like Overdogs is gonna be pretty good in most situations.

[hexed steppe]

All roads lead to overdogs

[spark spire]

Unironically yes.

[dense roost]

How good is Eagle Bearer, really? It looks beautiful and I wanna try to get it but it seems like a gimmick

[spark spire]

I mean... the build around it plays a role. If you can consistantly get headshot kills, it can make you pretty tanky.

[normal shadow]

Overdogs or Coyote can help in most damage oriented builds I think.

[hexed steppe]

Overdog is the Tetrarchy of damage.
Oxi/fire/explosive/weapon damages all ruled over

[spark spire]

[hexed steppe]

Coyote is the sidekick that waits in the car now

[spark spire]

What was in the sidecar before Coyote's?

[hexed steppe]

Foxs probably

[spark spire]

I mean Foxes is still pretty decent.

[hexed steppe]

It is, but when your crit was not perfect it wasnt worth

[spark spire]

Fair enough

[hexed steppe]

Its even more niche now. Pesti and regular highend builds

And oxi ofc

[silver peak]

THAT WAS AWFUL

[hexed steppe]

Ig I use in rifle hh builds too. Probably more use than coyote at this point tbh

[silver peak]

that was like 80 components

[hexed steppe]

That's all? lucky 😍

[silver peak]

i got like

4 perfect skill rolls and it kept taunting me
twice i got all reds but a skill main core

omg i just relized that the mask changes colors based on what cores it has

so mine is all red now

[zenith rose]

Hey guys. Looking for a tip. I'm a returning player, been playing on and off for a couple of years, but want to get to the game for longer this time. I have a few builds saved, Hunters Fury SMG Shield, Strikers, Tanky Strikers, HB - just want to ask are they still viable? I remember using Ikia's (?) guide back then. I'm mostly solo player with occasional grouping, I do like skills and shield builds. Pure DPS is also nice, provided I can take a shot or two. I have SHD 650ish.

[civic meteor]

What weapons should I look into to work with my build?

[spark spire]

Strikers is always viable

[fading orbit]

people still run famas on striker or there is a best AR option

[spark spire]

I mean there's a few decent ARs. Then there's the Lexington.

[fierce cypress]

what do folks suggest for the talent for prototying the lex?

[fading orbit]

I didn't even remembered I had it, should I just change the talent and its good to go

[frozen hull]

I loved that it has the led lights there haha looks so cool

[candid marlin]

is an ignited talent based build with tinkerer good ?

[worn imp]

Keep or reroll? It kinda isnt even surpassing Coytes because the last stat isnt weapon handling. 😭

[candid marlin]

who can send me a good tinkerer build ???

[lone glacier]

lmfao

340 Mag GR9

[solar sable]

check the OD guide in the pinned Spreadsheet for more info

[spark spire]

340 round Big Al

[kind axle]

tell me how lol

[sinful tinsel]

is shroud or mantis better

[lone glacier]

Nemesis

[lone glacier]

Convert 2 (Offense) -> Compress (Offense) -> Nullify

Has to be that order

[limber falcon]

does anyone have any resources or information regarding different sources of dmg multipliers and which ones are grouped together?

[versed summit]

Shroud overall for damage, but Mantis has good utility

[sinful tinsel]

alr cheers

[subtle bluff]

There's a list in the build hub.

[limber falcon]

Thank You!

[subtle bluff]

It's not an update but it should be the major ones.

[quick heath]

am i just blind to the hub you're referencing?

[limber falcon]

He's referencing the Division 2 Gear Spreadsheet that's pinned. If you search Build Hub he's also sent the link like 4 times in the past week.

[violet saddle]

Im thinking of usibg tinkerer/ tipping scales with gr9 w frenzy and another lmg with strained (10% extra crit dam per .5 seconds of firing, max of 5) would that be a good idea?

[silent storm]

Not really as you have so much CHD anyway

[violet saddle]

True, but would that add another 50% to your 500%ish percent to crit damage when frenzy procs?

[silent storm]

what is 50% to 500%?

I like Fast Hands or something that adds WD

[versed summit]

You want to diversify damage sources. Adding critical damage on tipping scales is the last thing you want to do.

[silent storm]

Frenzy Fast Hands is monsterous honestly

[subtle bluff]

For the dmg? It's in there. I forget what's it's named.

[quick heath]

i found it, just getting the exotics is going to suck

[limber falcon]

Can someone clarify if weapon specific dmg such as 'SMG Damage' is additive or multiplicative with your total weapon damage pool? I can't see it specifically mentioned on the doc

[silent storm]

I thought it was added

Like the Cores

[limber falcon]

I figured it was too but just wanted to double check

[silent storm]

Has a + in front of it so I just assumed that's how it worked

[limber falcon]

that makes a lot of sense haha

thanks for letting me know, I'll keep an eye out for that indicator

[livid mica]

Thinking of making a ravenous or big horn build, want something thats kind of inbetween full auto and sniper. I'm leaning towards ravenous, does that normally like just rifle dmg or crits, or headshots?

[versed summit]

Its additivr to weapon cores

[silent storm]

What Augment would be good for this? Keep the grenade one or try for Echo on it?

[versed summit]

Echo would be a lot better, the grenade one is pretty mid.

[runic thicket]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask. Are these skill mods for skills that you wouldn't have if you only have the 8 initial skills?

Having an issue where there is a "new" indicator on my mods section but nothing new is there. I saw these when I went to the sell tab at the vendor

[silent storm]

I think that is the pain of a boosted character as all my boosted ones have that

[smoky latch]

You need to unlock those skills first. But it would stupid if they didn't show up in the general overview.

So not sure if that's intended or not

[flint arch]

The skills that aren't part of the base roster do not appear if you haven't unlocked them yet

[smoky latch]

Okay that's stupid

In terms of new player onboarding especially

I saw many Reddit threads about this but none actually describes it in a way I understand lol

[eager cosmos]

So I found a good build with waaay more survivability that let's me be aggressive, but my kill time is lower than I like, any suggestions? Im using elite protection mods just cause on heroic they super help

[runic thicket]

I am on a boosted character. So it is that I need to unlock the skills I guess. Thanks!

[smoky latch]

Likewise, now I understand what others meant

[ornate tendon]

hey guys just got to mission set journey 6 and realized i dont have a skill build anymore, does anyone have any updated recommendations please and thank you in advance.

[silent storm]

Where Red Core?

[limber falcon]

Has anyone tested if you can use the Amalgam augment with turmoil kneepads to apply status effects to multiple enemies at once?

[smoky latch]

Maybe they like marshmallows

[eager cosmos]

I can swap to come red cores, but im enjoying my survivability, so im cautious

[silent storm]

Enemies don't shoot you when they are dead