td2-build-advice

[frosty rivet]

thank you

[smoky latch]

Well pick a slow firing gun, pre-stack if needed, all possible

It's not as easy going as Striker's but does really solid damage

[solar sable]

explain?

[soft crane]

I already did.

And 6 stacks lost per second is a lot ngl.

[solar bison]

Does prototype affect base weapon stats in any way? Or just the rollable stats?

Like would a prototype M700 deal 1.6m base? vs the 1.1 most snipers have?

[tiny kernel]

Not if your using big Al or gr9

And both are good weapons

[smoky latch]

Alejandro is rather a little counter-intuitive dueto its brrrrrrrrrrt RoF I would say

[tiny kernel]

I mean it works with it, I wanna try bullet king when I get it

Rn Im trying big al and gear shift

[subtle bluff]

uh?

[smoky latch]

Yes it works but you will need much more ammo to to get to max stacks

[tiny kernel]

260 isn’t enough to get max stacks?

[serene carbon]

what is a good build for st elmo? sorry, i'm a beginner and just got it

[smoky latch]

I don't mean ammo box size, I mean overall ammo amount

[soft crane]

Good old striker build.

[frosty rivet]

I haven't used status builds in a while so iam not sure on the viability

[tiny kernel]

Ohh okay

[soft crane]

Ol'Reliable

[tiny kernel]

So bullet king would preferably be better?

[smoky latch]

A slower firing LMG would make more sense is my point. You can use whatever you want ofc

[soft crane]

It's still good for my crowd control status effect build

[smoky latch]

Bullet King works because of its talent. Also high sustain damage

[tiny kernel]

Ight bullet king is my next gun then

[soft crane]

@frosty rivet @serene carbon

[serene carbon]

allright thx

[tiny kernel]

Reason I like big al tho bc the dmg increase when in cover

[smoky latch]

Yup

[smoky latch]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lIa85JQ4JsipRUTfFO6NtS7IkMSNp7Ws
Pick one. Most common is the Equalizer Overdogs variant

[tiny kernel]

Lmao

[subtle bluff]

I forgot. I don't use it much...

[tiny kernel]

It’s Okayyy

Welp first exotic cache I got bullet king lmao

[lone glacier]

Anyone working on a seasonal modifier guide or is there one already?

[frosty rivet]

Thank you

[tiny kernel]

I think I got a good roll on bullet king

[smoky latch]

You want CHC as 3rd attribute

[tiny kernel]

Don’t need it

[smoky latch]

Usually DTOC but LMGs benefit mostly from CHC

[tiny kernel]

Im 60% with it

[subtle bluff]

but then you get to do more dmg..

[smoky latch]

Well why would you want Magazine Size on BK?

It's not like you need to reload lol

[tiny kernel]

I don’t lol it’s just what rolled it

[smoky latch]

I think I got a good roll on bullet king

is what you said, and I tried to tell you CHC is more beneficial

[tiny kernel]

But isn’t the cap 60%?

Sorry just a bit confused now

[smoky latch]

Yes but you can add more CHD to your build, swap with CHC on gear

[tiny kernel]

Ohh thats what you meannn

[languid wasp]

Tipping Scale with B.Alejandro? approved and it's melting almost everything.

[smoky latch]

Sure it works but if you're unlucky you'll run out of ammo quick

On higher difficulties with a little tankier NPCs

[tiny kernel]

For challenging countdown it’s good

[last schooner]

the only place I've ever had issue with ammo in this game is Tidal Basin Lego

[tiny kernel]

Ive yet to try heroic

[languid wasp]

I wish gunner spec will give 10% ammo for every 10 secs

[tiny kernel]

Nah every 5sec

[junior lagoon]

Master general anderson boss

[last schooner]

really? first boss or final?

both parts have ammo box. Lego Tidal there's a section with no ammo box

[junior lagoon]

I die with alejandro. I dont know how people survive by staying in cover. A grenade pushes you out a sniper gets you etc etc

[last schooner]

I never tried solo so

[junior lagoon]

Final. If you miss the water

[last schooner]

dude if you miss the water on master die and restart lol

[livid sorrel]

i remember switching weapons 3 times just for it

[last schooner]

I tried it with 2ppl and dumped rounds for 30min and he still didn't die

unless they've patched it. Killed him on Heroic without water ok.

[junior lagoon]

Yeah with water it is quite easy in master but need to nake sure one person is watching the green arrow

Could not do solo, died everytime

[buoyant perch]

If solo master, just dump 6 arrows to his helmet and then you can kill him even without water

[jade cairn]

Question that is going to be hard to answer i think. I am returning after a while away and I have so much gear. Ive forgotten basically everything I was farming for or building.

Is there like, a guide somewhere about what I should keep and what I should just scrap? Any tips?

[junior lagoon]

Check the pinned message

It gives you the most used builds, unicorns to keep etc

[jade cairn]

the spreadsheet here at the top?

[junior lagoon]

Yes

[jade cairn]

Appreciate you

[silver coral]

What is a unicorn?

[buoyant perch]

Very difficult to drop items

[silver coral]

Oh ic ic

[spice plaza]

Anyone have either a good build for hunting Hunters or solo heroic? I'm trying to find/make a build with both survivability and damage

[buoyant perch]

Protection from elites build (pinned spreadsheet) for hunters

Ikia heartbreaker techtank for solo heroic (not sure if it's in the spreadsheet but search youtube if it's not there)

[jade cairn]

It looks like i have a ton of stuff in my library. Basically full actually. Near close to max everything

Is it worth keeping any gear that doesnt have 2+ maxed stats and is already in my library

Obviously a broad generalization but keeping the unicorns, exotics and the striker build i have, probably just fine to clean house

[livid sorrel]

Might want to look into other builds and keep stuff they use in case you want to branch out

[thick meteor]

What would be good with the new brandset?

[smoky latch]

Not much use in PvE

[unkempt terrace]

any rifle build out there? i just got the revenous xD

[languid wasp]

Does anyone have a spreadsheet for this gun build? Going tipping scale build

[warm merlin]

How good is the new armour set?

[subtle bluff]

rav is really niche but when the niche is used it's good.

[subtle bluff]

It's in the Pinned Messagse

Striker, TS and ND

[subtle bluff]

Not that good.

[warm merlin]

Thanks

[languid wasp]

arigatou

[cyan drift]

new set makes a usable tank build for getting shot, but has no self heals on its own

[wild creek]

I am trying to improve my armour and damage, just so I can play harder missions or bounties. I don’t own any DLC’s, I am a solo player, I am an AR user, struggling to find a perfect secondary. My main SHD skills is a striker drone, might have my secondary skill be a gernade turret (I wanted artillery). My specialisation is Sharpshooter, but it might change if gernade turret requires the specialisation that gives the gernade launcher.

[cyan drift]

You get a 26 million health shield, but nothing else to work with. Just an HP brick

[smoky latch]

Can you post a ss of your current build?

[thick meteor]

Whats a good non gearset build?

( all golds no teal build)

[smoky latch]

Seems like you wanna go straight mortar. Here is a nice guide with info, explanations and build suggestions:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19mY6aOHO0R6BIq7nDFNTk2bducYQkpwsQJNDQhnekAI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.dznfr7r650m7

[wild creek]

Thx. I am also a straight assualt player, I think I can make this work.

[smoky latch]

Well you can't mix things up. If you wanna do too many things with a build you won't do anything well with it

[frosty rivet]

Iam pleased with the fact someone has made a motar build

[smoky latch]

There is a spreadsheet linked in the first pinned message in this channel. Once it's open click on "build hub" at the bottom and you'll get build suggestions for several playstyles

[frosty rivet]

If you want hybrid builds this is probably the season for that

[frozen hull]

Definitely I feel like this seasons new gear set pairs well with recombinant but sadly those modifiers will eventually go away ahha

[frosty rivet]

I don't really know how to use the season modifiers, but the new gear set is something I plan to try

[frozen hull]

It’s confusing I think I’m getting the hang of the modifiers tho

[frosty rivet]

Once I get the journey 3 mods I'll probably take a look at it more in depth

I use harmony (perfect in sync) for my skill build would spike really be better for damage?

It's refractors too btw

[soft crane]

Harmony? Is that rifle?

[frosty rivet]

Yeah, named resolute mk47

[soft crane]

Ah right forgot about it. I dont use Refactor so idk

[frosty rivet]

Would spike still be better overall damage than in sync?

[subtle bluff]

why would refactor make it any different?

[soft crane]

err...

[frosty rivet]

Mainly because refractor really doesn't have any skill utility outside of just the armor regen

[subtle bluff]

That makes less sense than his comment

[frosty rivet]

I tend to do that

[soft crane]

Sorry i seem to be confused.

[subtle bluff]

Refactor does one thing mainly that ends up doing another just passively.

[soft crane]

Currently sorting my inventory.

[frosty rivet]

Iam just asking if spike is generally more dps than in sync, not applying any builds or whatever just those two perks

I dunno, iam also confused now

[subtle bluff]

What do you need to do with spike to proc it and how much does it give?

[frosty rivet]

Not sure actually

[soft crane]

Welp Im done for today.

[frosty rivet]

I've been watching a friend use the sheriff lately, it's honestly a meme how broken it is

Wack

[buoyant perch]

Good for pvp too

[frosty rivet]

Unironically I'd probably have a better time upkeeping in sync, thank you

[soft crane]

That reminds me, Capacitor is just Test Subject with extra steps and slightly better buff.

Capacitor can have:
45% Weapon Damage
60% Skill Damage

Test Subject can have:
40% Weapon Damage
40% Skill Damage

But no stack is required for Test Subject.

[frosty rivet]

Dam, I think you might have just saved me an exotic slot

[celest elm]

how good is the new Core strength gear set?

[subtle bluff]

nothing amazing.

[shy willow]

Nah capacitor is still better with the DTA

It also has way better mods

[unkempt terrace]

is break point gear set good in revenous build?

[soft crane]

Dont think so. If you're looking for Ravenous build, I have a different one.

@unkempt terrace There you go.

[subtle bluff]

Rav is a niche weapon and is only good in it's niche talent is used.

[gentle lichen]

Test subject is for instant 40% without stacking very useful in cases where you swap to quickstep often thus removing the stacks from capacitor. You'd rather test subject where you can just put 1 bullet and boom instant 40% skill damage

[unkempt terrace]

i see i was wondering why people build the ravenous semi tank

[soft crane]

Probably because the red primer deal a lot of damage already when max stack.

[unkempt terrace]

may i ask the helm is named item right?

[soft crane]

The helm?

[soft crane]

Oh no, the kneepads and the chest pieces are.

Kneepads is Fox's Prayer, the one that has DTOOC. Chest is Equalizer with perfect Obliterate.

[unkempt terrace]

ohh okay those two i already have

[soft crane]

If you dont have Overdogs, you can use Coyote mask and the glove will also be named. Eagle's Grasp from the same Zwiadowka brandset.

So in that single build you'll be wearing 3 named pieces and 1 exotic.

[unkempt terrace]

ohh i might use the cayote cause i might have problem using overdogs

[subtle bluff]

It's only kind of used for tank in IH raid but again niche.

Bonus armor doesn't make you tank it's jsut buffer. But in heroic and lower sure it's kind of tankie.

[soft crane]

Is it really niche? Im using it just fine in every heroic activities.

[subtle bluff]

Almost anything is viable up to solo heroic. Doesn't mean it's good.

[soft crane]

Whats the difference between niche and underrated?

[subtle bluff]

What's a good build?

[soft crane]

A build that everyone uses I guess?

[subtle bluff]

In this case you don't see why rav is niche. It is not for its bonus armor.

[subtle bluff]

This is not a build everyone uses.

[subtle bluff]

To note only like 2 of the builds are imo optimize good.

[soft crane]

Any suggestion?

[subtle bluff]

The build hub has most them shows how they should be built

[terse scroll]

is my build bugged? why is it -90% Headshot Damage?

[solar sable]

visual bug

[vernal forge]

ANyone wanna give me some pointers on a build? I'm very perticular and i dont wanna run meta bs

[soft crane]

@vernal forge

[soft crane]

You should at least have one DPS build imo. If you dont want meta then go for my rifle DPS build.

[vernal forge]

I'm a tank, shield build just looking for some optimizations

[soft crane]

Sorry cant help you with that.

[livid sorrel]

im assuming you've heard all the discussion about tanking and aggro and stuff
you could look into the new core strength gearset and make a techtank

[vernal forge]

Would 100% increased threat be worth it to pull agro?

[soft crane]

Hah I just remembered about that google docs that named "Why you should run 6 red cores"

[livid sorrel]

aggro is heavily based on dps so enemies won't shoot you after like 5 seconds of your dps teammates shooting
ntm group scaling meaning your team has to work harder to kill enemies

[vernal forge]

So i should be at least putting down 3-4m DPS?

[soft crane]

Thats from the google docs I mentioned isnt it?

[livid sorrel]

yknow what here's the whole doc

[soft crane]

How the fu

[soft crane]

How do you change the links name?

[livid sorrel]

[text here](link here)

[soft crane]

Awesome. Thanks.

[livid sorrel]

on pc can just type stuff, highlight, then paste

[vernal forge]

ok with that in mind and the fact that i could care less about the opinions shared. Care to help me sort some gear out? Just humor me

[subtle bluff]

uh..

[atomic turtle]

Tanking in Division started and ended with D3-FNC. It's been a depressing decade since then. 😔

[vernal forge]

agreed

[subtle bluff]

what your SHD?

[livid sorrel]

it's not opinion, it's conclusions players with more playtime than you and i have found playing the game

[soft crane]

Tanks arent really used outside raids so you'll just be a burden for your team most of the times.

[vernal forge]

awefully bold of you to assume i have friends

[livid sorrel]

if you really want, heartbreaker memento, shield and artificer hive

[shy willow]

You can have tanky setups and make them work reasonably well but tank setups are just kinda pointless in 99 percent of content

[atomic turtle]

"If Iron Horse is your reason for existing, then what are you without it?" - Socrates 2020

[soft crane]

Lol

Anyway can anyone show him the hybrid dps/tank build?

[soft crane]

There ya go.

[soft crane]

So the shield skill tier is 5 right?

[subtle bluff]

Also tanks aren't used in incursion too.

[soft crane]

Oh ok

What does Artificer hive do? Isnt that the purple one?

[livid sorrel]

it repairs shields without even having to deploy it

[soft crane]

What about the orange flavor one?

[atomic turtle]

I need MrChow to design a tank build that actually has value and then work at massive, please.

[livid sorrel]

booster? supposedly buffs weapon handling and hazpro but i've never seen anyone use it

[frozen hull]

Always wondered something .. which skills are pointless to upgrade ? I’m sure there’s a few that aren’t really worth the upgrades

[atomic turtle]

Firefly, immediately.

I can count the amount of times I've seen Firefly used with a single hand.

[frozen hull]

I’ve never e en really used firefly haha

[flint arch]

i got yelled at by iKia before i changed it to the current version in the doc

[subtle bluff]

you mean actually make a guide for the one..

I was gonna make a support page for support tanks but bleh

[atomic turtle]

No, I mean design a tank build from scratch that doesn't exist and send that to the devs.

Create a gear set.

[subtle bluff]

TBH tanks aren't a bad place tbh.

It's more of gameplay and knowledge

[livid sorrel]

fixing aggro would make tanks not complete deadweight imo

[subtle bluff]

I wanna try my thoughts on a Tech Tank ND and see if I can pull agro with it

[flint arch]

i like reposting clips for the 2508999406th time

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, but I haven't seen Tanks get badmouthed this much until Division 2 released. D3 really was the best there ever was. You don't see D3 getting clowned on every day.

[vernal forge]

massive fumble getting rid of this imo

[subtle bluff]

Why do we bring up Div1 stuff up so much

[livid sorrel]

from what i hear even tanky sets in div1 dealt good damage, dps sets just dealt more

[vernal forge]

cause much like every modern game dev they make gold then immediately throw it in the trash

[atomic turtle]

Also the fact that the devs decided the best approach to disrupt on shields was to always knock it out boggles me.

[subtle bluff]

Uh?

[warm lagoon]

Bluescreen,
Tipping Scales, Equalizer Chest, overdose gloves.
Seem to be prettt good.

[atomic turtle]

I just find it insane that Tanks were good value in Division 1, but suddenly, in Division 2, they're not. Like... what happened?

[livid sorrel]

pretty sure that's the meta setup for TS

[subtle bluff]

They weren't at the end from what I've been told

[flint arch]

disable regen, make it less resistant to damage

[warm lagoon]

TS?

[livid sorrel]

tipping scale

[warm lagoon]

Oh lol

[atomic turtle]

This would have been a thousand times better than what we got. There's no reason for a shield that's already deployed to get jammed.

[warm lagoon]

Whats the ~ on your damage mean, in the after action report?

[subtle bluff]

The things about that if you kwtd you can easily go crazy on this.

Why we use DPS to measure a builds output

[warm lagoon]

Kwtd?

[subtle bluff]

know what to do

[warm lagoon]

Ohh

[livid sorrel]

It's so broken it can even go negative sometimes

[atomic turtle]

I love abbreviations.

[soft crane]

Isnt that a bug that never got fixed? The total amount of damage you dealt becomes negative.

[atomic turtle]

I also love that the game never got updated with a new integer system, so all DPS builds pumping crazy numbers always go into the negative, lmao.

[warm lagoon]

I dont know if this is the correct place for this but, this was a random fill and we went from tier 0 to teir 2 and each after action report looked like this with the ~ on my damage

[livid sorrel]

Yeah that's it lmao, it overflowed and went negative

[warm lagoon]

So bluescreen, Tipping scales is there to say in my load out lol

I was just making sure I was understanding it correctly

[livid sorrel]

Tipping scales works with anything with enough mag size tbh

[atomic turtle]

Yeah. Division 2 was made with 32-bit integers so the maximum values displayed are 2,147,483,647. Once you hit that number, the game doesn't know what to do so it just loops around into the negative.

[flint arch]

elmos with TS

[atomic turtle]

mfw the devs didn't bother to update to 64-bit system.

[rich cargo]

Soneone told me big al(lmg) isnt really nice on ts. It has a big mag so why not?

[subtle bluff]

RPM and Mag

[cerulean smelt]

maybe lack of mods

[atomic turtle]

Imagine if the devs update to 64 bit, and eventually everyone runs around doing 100 trillion damage, after hitting Lv. 60.

It's like one of those korean MMOs with inflated numbers.

[rich cargo]

Im just looking for something else. "Fun" besides my striker build.

[soft crane]

Kinda goes both ways. Alejandro has high RoF which is good for Striker but then again its talent is increase damage which preferably for Tipping Scale.

[livid sorrel]

TS stacks based on time spent firing, and big al's rpm is so high that burns through the mag faster and stacks less

[subtle bluff]

my MG5 got RNG....

[livid sorrel]

you can try negotiator's

[atomic turtle]

Big Alejandro w/ Golden Bullet is 🤌

[subtle bluff]

OH NVM I got killer back...

[rich cargo]

Thats a good aoe damage build?

[livid sorrel]

Yeah, actually beats striker's if you can mark multiple enemies

[atomic turtle]

ND has the most schizo form of AoE I've seen from any build ever. You normally expect a status effect build or a skill build of some sort to do that kind of role.

But hey, that's what makes ND so good.

[soft crane]

Too lazy to make another whole build, just slap a Striker build with Turmoil and call it a day.

[atomic turtle]

I just like to imagine my character is running mags of advanced SHD bullets that enter the first guy then do a 90 degree turn right into the second guy, but they lost most of the momentum so they deal less damage. And the bullet turns using nano-tech sized rockets.

[subtle bluff]

and funny enough it still doesn't do 1/2 of =what ND can do.

[languid wasp]

equalizer pairing with B.Alejandro is a mistake

[summer totem]

Thoughts on the new exotic ar?

Also what gear set works well with bullet king aside from tipping scales?

[livid sorrel]

Striker, nego

[ivory abyss]

For tech tank builds you always need artificer hive right to keep repairing the shield?

[livid sorrel]

that's the idea

[short verge]

okay so im trying out the new core strength gear set and im able to get above 2.1 million armor with only two blue cores, other six blue core loadouts i have only reach ~1.9 million

this is also a complete shit trash loadout i scrounged together so that makes this kind of interesting to me

[gentle lichen]

you don't have any damage though
it really shines in hybrid pvp builds i don't see much use out of additive WD in pve

[livid sorrel]

not including the global modifier i assume

[short verge]

oooh, i have the global modifier on, thats why mb

[short verge]

im just trying to see how it works in the firing range, obviously i dont have damage duuuhh

[livid sorrel]

it's like 0.5% per stack anyway

[short verge]

that makes more sense

okay so global modifiers off, still reaching 2.0 million, kind of cool to me

[ivory abyss]

I am going to do a tech tank build with core str just because its new and refreshing lol and looks interesting

[short verge]

damage is still the question, im gonna see what nonsense i can scrounge up

[dapper glacier]

So I put together this healer build. any advice?

[subtle bluff]

tthat is not the way for refactor

[flint arch]

good refractor build but bad refactor build

[subtle bluff]

sir....

[flint arch]

[dapper glacier]

quick one maybe I got it wrong. but the idea of using the skills and doing damage with refactor will heal my teammates?

[flint arch]

you invest into more damage with refactor so you heal better and also kill better

[subtle bluff]

I sleep..I better not wake up to something that'll baits me

[flint arch]

the chest and backpack will only give you more healing but no damage

[dapper glacier]

but with the skills im doing ton of damage.

[flint arch]

no numbers

[dense roost]

HOLY CRAP THEY'RE REAL

[flint arch]

[junior lagoon]

Iron lung build. Equalizer, overdogs and 4 striker?

[flint arch]

[dense roost]

at last, i can finally complete the most original build of all time that nobody in this game has ever run before

I'm a pioneer, I know

[flint arch]

so original

[dense roost]

I'll be signing autographs later

[dapper glacier]

can you make a good build with concentrated company?

[strong cave]

let them dogs bark 🐶 🗣️

[dense roost]

rip coyote u served me well

[strong cave]

3 known ones. all yellow with crits and capacitor with turret/drone, all yellow with healing skills and crits, or all red with pestilence

barebasic setup across the board being ceska chest oblit or equalizer, Overdogs, then the 4 piece gearset putting crits where you cant

[dapper glacier]

which specialisation?

[strong cave]

You'll require tech for 6 skill tiers, if running overdogs. Which you'll want to run. So your core on your chest will need to be rolled to a skill tier

If all red, any specialist I'd assume

[languid wasp]

lucky just opened 10 ex chace and its all trash

[strong cave]

Free comps 💯

[dapper glacier]

at the moment don't have skills cores. can i swap the skills for something else or should I keep them?

[junior lagoon]

toastey posted a tier 10 potomac video

[ivory abyss]

Link?

[junior lagoon]

he uses mk46

[ivory abyss]

T10 seems like it would be insane

[junior lagoon]

he posted all of them actually. duo though not solo

https://www.youtube.com/@toasteyxgod

[ivory abyss]

I did T5 last night with randoms and it was rough lol but we completed it, we also ended up getting rogue encounter which was very tough

[unkempt terrace]

any good combination for these new modifiers

im new in this mechanics xD

[ivory abyss]

I feel like if you are in a 4 man and get rogues in T9 or T10 its an auto wipe lol

[ebon lantern]

Yeah in the video Toasty was saying a T10 rogue agent is a raid boss fight

[ivory abyss]

Yeah and what honestly made me tilted the most was even tho it was a T5 which middle should be rewarding anyways, but no rogues dropped any prototype lol

[lavish badger]

How did you manage to do it? What exactly were you doing? Because I still can't seem to get those gloves......

[ivory abyss]

the easiest way for me to get them when I was in need. I just did Hyena retaliations until I got the BP and then crafted them lol

[lavish badger]

cool 👍

[merry schooner]

i have a DPS build and i was wondering if this is good or i should reroll it

i was also wondering whether i should get the fox mask or stay with the overdogs

[ivory abyss]

Reroll it? you cant change the stats on exotic armor iirc

[merry schooner]

im unsure which option would be better

[ivory abyss]

You can only optimize it

It always has chd/chc on it

[merry schooner]

am i misunderstanding what these are then?

i thought i could get the same for the overdogs

[livid sorrel]

it depends on the exotic, overdogs always has chc and chd

[ivory abyss]

The new mask you can re roll because it has random stats it can roll with, idk about those kneepads i have no clue about those

[atomic turtle]

With the exception of very few items, Exotics are always fixed attributes and talents. Those never change.

[merry schooner]

ah okay thanks :)

also is there a consensus on whether to use coyotes mask or overdogs for DPS builds?

[livid sorrel]

overdogs just barely edges out coyotes assuming optimal uptime for both

[ivory abyss]

Overdogs is more DPS overall if you have enough chc already

but both are good really either way will work

[merry schooner]

hm, okay ill see how things are once i max out my gear
thanks for the help guys :)

[dense cave]

So I’m trying to figure out my next build I’m thinking core off the ninja hella crit

[dapper glacier]

I got them using targeted loot gloves in retaliation

[lament reef]

you can reconfig the fixed roll to get better/worse numbers

[civic meteor]

Something needs to change here

I don’t think this is optimized well

[tulip charm]

Well you can do a few things:
Try Gunner Spec.
Replace Oxpecker. (I've heard the gun isnt that good)
Reach ~60% Chc/Rest into CHD.

[civic meteor]

Like I love this gun I like the talent but Gaw damn somethings not adding up

[civic meteor]

It might be the gunner spec

I just changed in order to upgrade the other specialization

I’m doing like 160-220k base damage

[shy willow]

Oxpecker doesn't have a damage talent on top of it being a mid base gun

[civic meteor]

True I’m thinking of switching back to the backfire

I think I just get so confused bc I go in the shooting range and the open world and I feel like a beast the minute I pop into a mission I feel like under leveled almost

[outer agate]

chatterbox or backfire for hunters fury

[serene carbon]

is it good?

[patent fossil]

Yup

[serene carbon]

does that mean i don't need to reroll the core attribute and its attributes?

[lone glacier]

You don't. Keep it

Just have to optimize it

[livid berry]

I run a similar build to this except I use st Elmo’s with rock & roll. it works well for solo play.

I do run with gunner spec though

[ivory abyss]

Just tried out the core str tech tank build and yup the damage just isnt enough lol was really hoping for something more. It just flat out loses to strikers and HB by a lot lol

It does give the crusader shield like double health though and faster CD which is nice

but you give up like 180k-200k per bullet lol

[sterile chasm]

Can someone give me a basic explanation of the yellow blue and red perks on armor?

I’m almost level 40 so I’m trying to get an actual build going, right now I’m trying to find better leveled parts of the level 35 build the game gave me and the yellow parts that increase dmg it says

[junior lagoon]

yellow is skill, red is weapon damage and blue is armor

[sterile chasm]

skill damage?

and armor meaning how many shots before my armor breaks?

[normal shadow]

Is it better to have a separate, full yellow skill damage build and a separate FI healer build or a hybrid?

[onyx sage]

it's better to have them separate yes

[normal shadow]

That's what I've been thinking as well but I've been thinking if a yellow-red hybrid would be worth building.

[amber atlas]

Hey guys I am trying to build my library. I have talents I like to store. I have them but I can't remove them and place them in my library. They are not exotics or named weapons. Just regular looted ones. What am I missing?

They are not on favorites either

[outer agate]

is chatterbox one of the best guns for hunters fury?

[smoky latch]

Only if you can keep its stacks up

[scenic whale]

Does Concentranted Company Stacks affect the explosion of ravenous or is that explosion only calculated at the base of the weapon damage

[onyx sage]

it affects it yes

[scenic whale]

oh cool, thanks. Nice to have something to spec into the meme explosion side of it

[onyx sage]

crit also increases it btw

[scenic whale]

would you recommend a more standard HE set with Zwidoska or just CoCom instead

[onyx sage]

idk if you plan to run it exclusively in groups or not but coco feels awful in solo

[scenic whale]

oh i only play with groups so CoCo is a non issue

[onyx sage]

then yeah run coco

[unkempt terrace]

is there already build using the investor exotic mask?

[livid berry]

Chatterbox is great with HF. I like to run it with Momento, Equalizer chest on gunner spec with reviver hive and shield. It’s a lot of fun to play you just have to be aggressive and stay as close as you can to the enemy.

[rich cargo]

Anyone a good advice on what builds would be really nice for heroic retal? Like 3 striker dps guys and 1 healer. Or other builds that shine in retal?

[livid berry]

When I run solo heroic retaliations I either run pest with tipping scales and overdogs or contractor gloves and catharsis mask or I’ll run strikers with st Elmo’s and momento.

[rich cargo]

Yea i run st elmo striker with memento aswell

[livid sorrel]

negotiator's, eclipse foam, refactor

[outer agate]

yea but having ro reload at the beginning of every fight is annoying

[rich cargo]

Isnt eclipse foam "waste" of dps or something haha

[livid berry]

If your playing with a group I’d drop momento and use strikers backpack with overdogs and equalizer

[livid sorrel]

Having enemies be immobile as soon they spawn for the dps guys to gun them down is well worth it
Don't have to wait for them to pop out of cover

[livid berry]

For sure but having those stacks for that high rpm shreds and reload is pretty quick.

[rich cargo]

Working on a refractor build atm

[outer agate]

true but by the time i get close to reload to get the buff im almost dead

[smoky latch]

In Retaliations the NPCs are spread out, a foam or fire CC build is a little impractical there. Could go healer or armor support

Ongoing Directive also great

You can do damage yourself and buff your team's damage

[tulip charm]

foam is really good in retal

@onyx sage right?

[livid berry]

Are you using a shield? You’ll take some hits but once you get shooting the armor and health will fill back up real quick.

[outer agate]

yea but since its all reds the shield has no hp

[livid sorrel]

forgot abt that lmao, foam agenda is my priority

[smoky latch]

What's your thinking behind this?

[livid berry]

Try it with momento and maybe 1-2 blue cores just for a tad more survivability.

You could also use catharsis mask. Once it procs and you stand in the healing it’ll heal your shield too and you can just sit there and shoot

[tulip charm]

I somewhat know spawns in cp and the random spawns ad are most of the time close enough to make use of the spread.

[onyx sage]

yeah

me and fun ran black tusk retals last night and he was just casually foaming with EP, it was easy for me

the problem is... it's me

[tulip charm]

yeah sorry I had to carry there

[onyx sage]

i haven't played the game for the last 3 years

[dapper glacier]

is the shroud marksman rifle good?

[onyx sage]

yes

[dapper glacier]

is good with hotshot?

[onyx sage]

yes

[smoky latch]

Sure this type of knowledge and some average skills help there.

Not sure if newer players would also be comfy doing that; was my thinking

[onyx sage]

unironically back and forth is a good damage talent

[tulip charm]

yeah since people still dont run somewhat optimized dps builds to make use of the cc support in that gamemode

if you're mm'ing then ur just playing the lottery

[onyx sage]

measured and back and forth are my 2 top recommended talents for crit builds now

each one has its own activation requirement tho, measured is more hands off

[junior lagoon]

i replaced killer with measured on lexington. was not happy with killer

[onyx sage]

yeah i know some of my friends run killer and are happy with it, i personally don't

[tulip charm]

killer is good mainly in solo also having a rng requiment is a hit or miss for me.

[onyx sage]

on paper it's super good tho, but i don't like how the better my team is the worse it is

[tulip charm]

yeah

[strong cave]

quick question: do you know if fast hands is currently bugged right now?

[onyx sage]

not sure

[strong cave]

i mag dumped an entire MG5 magazine (56% chc) and barely got 20 stacks. 100 rounds, barely 20 stacks? something aint right

yeah im noticing when I hold down the trigger, some hits just dont count towards fast hands. unless im going batpoop crazy

but when i burst it, it seems to count every single crit that im seeing

[dense roost]

I lucked out and got it from a Countdown Exotic Cache, but Hyena Retaliations are probably the more consistent way to go

How good is the new gear set? I've always been a fan of the idea of Hybrid builds and it'd be nice to have a catch all type of build I can bring to anything but not sure if it's worth the investment

[smoky latch]

Needs more testing

Not even iKia was that fast

[dense roost]

Yeah ig it has only been a day I imagine people are caught up farming out new stuff

Idrk what "new content day" in this game looks like yet haha, started midway through anniversary

[strong cave]

sadly, not even iKia will test it no more

[dense roost]

It is kind of a shame to see the community have such a negative reaction to the season as someone who's just dipping my feet in

[flint arch]

it is up to us to carry the torch

unfortunately, i'm extremely stupid

[hexed steppe]

I feel like we already have been

Same ecosystem and all

[dense roost]

On the one hand I'm not at the point in the game yet where most of these new changes and systems will impact my enjoyment, but I also would just hate to see this game make the same mistakes as Destiny after it seems like things were looking really bright for this franchise

[solar sable]

We reacted negatively to this season's content because we were promised no re-gear, and from what they've shown in Dev Patch Notes they didn't intend to include Recalibration and Optimization to Prototype. Which made the community angry, if lots of people didn't stand up and complain about it, they wouldn't implement it.
Their initial decisions were what detonated a division of the community. Some who liked it, and some who didn't.

[rotund kestrel]

[BUG] [REPORT] Headline: ⚠️ WARNING: Expertise 30 "Lexington" ruined by Prototype Upgrade!

Hey guys, just a heads-up so you don't make the same soul-crushing mistake I just did.

I had my Lexington fully optimized: Expertise Level 30, perfect attributes, and my preferred talent.

I used the Prototype Upgrade to push it to Level 40 for that max base damage. But instead of just upgrading the level, the system performed a total reset on the weapon. It randomly swapped my talent, and since I already had an attribute recalibrated, the new (trash) talent is now LOCKED.

My Expertise 30 investment is basically bricked because of a talent I can't change back.

BE CAREFUL when upgrading Named items to Prototype. The UI doesn't warn you that it might reroll your fixed/chosen talent!

#TheDivision2 #Expertise30 #Lexington #BugReport #BuildHelp #MassiveEntertainment

[solar sable]

Things were going well with Division before PTS, veeery well. It's a shame for what they did that lots of players decided to leave the game

[dense roost]

Hopefully Ubi can course-correct before DLC 3/Div3

[grizzled garnet]

Couldnt theyve held off, slapped us with stretch goals and do some arguably much needed changed to this update

[dense roost]

Seems to me like they saw the momentum they were gaining in the wake of Destiny's continued failure and got a little too big for their britches lol

[solar sable]

Just relog, it's a visual bug. This isn't the place to post bug reports...

[cerulean smelt]

it's a visual bug

[cerulean smelt]

the powers that cuts them a check said to go ahead with what they got to give us

[dense roost]

For those unfamiliar the Prototype system is basically the exact same problem D2 ran into with its Tiered gear system in EOF

[grizzled garnet]

Tis unfortunate since afaik alot of these isues were known during pts

[haughty pendant]

I think theres a visual bug with headshot damage too. I was playing around with a bighorn and it read -287% headshot damage. But when I shot i was hitting for 5 million

[rotund kestrel]

THX GUYS - ok, its 1st April on 3th April - i hate it 😄 thx

[cerulean smelt]

btw: did you know they created this recently?
#news-and-announcements message

[haughty pendant]

No April Fools. Im too much of a n00b to mess with people

[ivory abyss]

Idk every aspect of the builds it can be used in but for a few I know it’s weak

[scenic siren]

Anyone tried out the synthesia augment on prototype gear? Is its effect worth chasing?

[magic pilot]

for most content no

you only need it for escalation

[smoky latch]

Should've stayed exclusive to Escalation

[mint axle]

The only thing I prototyped was one determined 1886 just for the slight increase on HH wp damage limit, I don't think I will prototype anything else

[magic pilot]

echo?

[mint axle]

Which one it was again?

[magic pilot]

echo applies as bodyshot dmg so you lose HH

[patent fossil]

hilarious

[strong cave]

that makes zero sense. but meh, div. it never made sense

[flint arch]

bruh wtf lmao

[magic pilot]

honestly make me not want to upgrade HH stuff now

[mint axle]

Oh yeah, I got the anomaly, but again, it was more about the extra 7,5 dmg, Quantum maybe is useful but what I know right?

[flint arch]

prototype gear is extremely well thought out and thoroughly tested

[patent fossil]

paradox and amalgam seem most generally useful to me

[magic pilot]

yea its alright for HH

[hazy steeple]

Synaesthesia is 100% my jam.
able to spam Banshee Pulse more is going to keep me alive way more than other stuff.

[hazy hull]

Anomly on refractor skill build with capacitor would go hard

[subtle bluff]

You heal enough with refactor already.

It's the reason why it's not suggest to use the chest because it over heals.

[hazy hull]

You're talking nearly immortal levels of healing due to 10% from refractor an extra 2% at minimum on the other parts of your gear you'd be getting so much health you'd be a juggunart of skills

[magic pilot]

seems the system is catered around automatic weapon builds

[mint axle]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, the augumentation does not have a separation from gear to weapon, like: I can have anomaly on a gear or a weapon for example

[hazy steeple]

@magic pilot I wonder why that could possibly be. No lex, don't give them a hint.

[magic pilot]

correct

[cerulean smelt]

imagine prototyping it and getting the augment that heals 😹

[subtle bluff]

Try it out in Legendary or escalation T5 or higher.

[mint axle]

So exotics can benefit from it (gear) despite not being prototype possible, interesting...

[hazy hull]

I would if I could get any prototype gear most of it seems impossible unless you're spending all day grinding prototype or expertise

[magic pilot]

yep

[cerulean smelt]

if by that you mean prototype gear augments. definitely. seems they want to go the prototype route with exotics down the line sometime so can expect more later i guess?

[magic pilot]

just rng. friend has gotten over 10 pieces already ive had 0

[cerulean smelt]

i've gotten like 4-6 from running back to back last night 😹 was kind of amusing as i wasn't really hunting them really

[magic pilot]

on escalation 6 atm

[silent storm]

I've been soloing 3-4 and I have a few proto pieces and I am not even exp 30 yet.

[magic pilot]

going as a 3 man and none of us have proto gear

[cerulean smelt]

i went in with 3 and think we were at our limits on 4 😹

[magic pilot]

im 1/2 dps

[subtle bluff]

This is what everyone I've played with is doing.

Idk if it's the way since you get shocked and can't burn out GR9 quick enough.

[magic pilot]

yea just ran into that. probably gonna swap to measured mg5

[silent storm]

Praise RNGesus

May your luck be better

[unreal remnant]

I was running 4 with a team of randoms yesterday. Only the host was getting prototype drops.

[magic pilot]

we had 1 non host get a piece

[cerulean smelt]

i had a poor guy turned to host wasn't getting any and i was getting them

[magic pilot]

host got 4

[silent storm]

I heard ~8 drops come much better

But around level 4 soloing becomes you better be kitted and pay attention

[unreal remnant]

I turned to farming Black Tusk retals but only blueprints I have so far is Birdies backpack, master difficulty weapons and the Desent rifle.

[subtle bluff]

Can't wait to see the tanks comments past t6.

[cerulean smelt]

assuming strikers build?

[abstract bridge]

Guys, can someone recommend build for Ravenous?

[cerulean smelt]

i'm more interested in the youtubers striker haz pro + backfire t7+ builds 😹

[subtle bluff]

Also think one person running nego isn't bad. I need to try another build for support.

[solar sable]

title should be "Kill a red ad in 2 hours with this build!"

[subtle bluff]

Ya I'd imagine that's a thing on YouTube.

[magic pilot]

does hazpro negate all the status or does it bypass?

[silent storm]

TS and Refactor

[magic pilot]

cav might be extremely good honestly

[flint arch]

[subtle bluff]

It's a mix. I had to switch to support.

[subtle bluff]

I had that thought too but the timing I don't think works out.

[cerulean smelt]

i was thinking Aegis might help? 🤔

[subtle bluff]

I'm actually surprised by a t6 turret didn't get destroyed.

[silent storm]

?

[magic pilot]

interesting

[magic pilot]

imo no. you need more dmg for the team or a decoy support

[subtle bluff]

Teir 6 turrets didn't get destroyed that quickly on t7

[magic pilot]

something to pull aggro. healing isnt worth since you basically just insta die at higher tiers

[subtle bluff]

Some heals isn't bad for the status effects.

[silent storm]

Yeah tier 4 they mostly ignore my turret but the drone goes down hard on heavies

[cerulean smelt]

well, aegis gives decoy support or am i thinking of something else that buffs up decoy with damage resistence?

[magic pilot]

The health on decoy is fine, emps are a problem and if you are running something like the striker build I posted above you need more threat on decoy

[magic pilot]

Aegis chest just makes the decoy apply the resistance buffs to the user

[cerulean smelt]

so was aegis doing something for the decoy? i started to think it was some odd exotic chest 😹

[magic pilot]

Maybe FI with decoy or Smart Cover and hive for OC?

[magic pilot]

No, decoy buffs the set basically

[subtle bluff]

Some random HW build works.

Is what was doing.

[magic pilot]

What skills? Shield and decoy?

[subtle bluff]

Faraday cage btw

[magic pilot]

It doesn't bypass? Love was asking too

[subtle bluff]

Cluster and oxi was what I was doing to get them out off cover. I wanna try more things.

[subtle bluff]

I mean I didn't get shocked when I have a hive out.

[magic pilot]

Turmoil is a must on dps, the enemies are so dense and hide in cover

[magic pilot]

Do they dodge the clusters a lot? Or does it hit

[subtle bluff]

Yea but you need someone not on it or getting flanked is an issue.

[magic pilot]

I think in 4 stack 2 Nego or turmoil, 1 single target dps and support is good

[subtle bluff]

Ditto

[magic pilot]

Eventually once proto gear is more common/ leveled can probably run 4 dps again

[signal vale]

what do i run for high damage sherif build ?

[gray radish]

Anyone using investor mask yet? Can anyone tell me was it good?

[livid sorrel]

Hunter's Fury should be fine, Striker works too apparently

[subtle bluff]

It's more of a fun build vs good high dps build.

[nocturne current]

I'm slightly confussed of new gear piece of this season is it more on main core builds or?

[lost wren]

turmoil is good now?

[subtle bluff]

Context this is for escalations +t6

[lost wren]

oh boy
haven't been too in touch with this game for a bit

what's up with escalations? for prototype gear ik but what's the best way to go about it

[silver coral]

Me who is waiting for turmoil season

[subtle bluff]

That and new hard challenge

Heroic with some scaling...

[lost wren]

oh and what about the new gear items and weapons, anything to note?

[subtle bluff]

Go read patch notea tbh

[ivory abyss]

Can you even get turmoil kneepads rn?

[subtle bluff]

No

[silver coral]

Any good build for catalyst?

[nocturne current]

Ongoing directive for me it least

[flint arch]

I feel like they didn't change enemy AI here

[silver coral]

What weapon

[flint arch]

on Legendary one of the reasons why it's so difficult is that the enemies are a lot more aggressive, but Escalation is just Heroic with enemy buffs, it doesn't seem like the AI was changed so enemies will still be reluctant to shoot you and hide from you all the time

[broken garnet]

Thinking about making a rifle build but don't really know what rifles to go for as I've never really cared for them. Was thinking about using the ravenous that has been sitting in my stash for ages now but heard that ravenous isn't that good so don't really know anything else, any suggestions 😭✌🏻

[subtle bluff]

It's trash. Very underwhelming vs other gear pieces.

[nocturne current]

if you wanna support your teammates in or random group i would suggest bluescreen LMG and Secondary the grudge

[subtle bluff]

Rav is niche. It's really good when you use it's niche.

[silver coral]

Does it work with pestilence?

[subtle bluff]

Pesti tick isn't a status effect

[nocturne current]

Pestilence is not a status effect

[silver coral]

Rip

[broken garnet]

Yeah thats what i figured, any other rifles you'd suggest? Haven't paid any attention to rifles at all so got no idea where to start with this one

[vital delta]

is the stats screen... not showing stats properly or am i missing something? i have 0 mods equipped that give me headshot dmg yet it says i have 77? same with crit chance... no way am i only getting 19%ish 😭😭

[subtle bluff]

For DPS wise OD works the best. Weapons wise it's player preference

[subtle bluff]

Missing context...

[vital delta]

ask away, ill try my best given my limited knowledge

[subtle bluff]

Build and SHD watch.

[nocturne current]

You could go if you want to amplify damages you could it all depends on you get a OD chest piece do note it amplify damage towards yourself not teammates shared

[vital delta]

SHD level? 406. am trying to build a set with ongoing directive but im missing some stuff

[subtle bluff]

There's a whole guide to OD if you follow the pinned messages

[broken garnet]

OH RIGHT

[nocturne current]

I use my OD build petrov backpack with wicked talent on it soo it works 😛

[solar sable]

I can tell you're starving on CHC

[marsh pilot]

What gun besides the elmo for the Strikers set in the pinned section ? Can i use LMGs too ?

[solar sable]

Yes, there's a list of weapons you can use in its guide

[subtle bluff]

Striker weapon wise is just high rpm weapons.

[marsh sparrow]

why am i randomly being auto revived when i go down? been happening since this season started? weird
Oops probably asked this in the wrong section.

[broken garnet]

If you have a revive hive its probably that

[marsh sparrow]

no revive hive, running turret drone, not sure if it's a bug or how its even happening

[broken garnet]

I've seen people go NUTS with the alejandro so yeah you can use an lmg with striker or if you want a different AR, I'd personally suggest the police M4, most times if built right can hit harder than st elmos

[broken garnet]

Probably a bug then but its working in your favor so thats a plus

[nocturne current]

I've saw some players use it on Legendary content tipping scales for Alejandro

[solar sable]

almost anything is better than Elmo's bc it doesn't have a dmg talent and relies on your gear

[broken garnet]

That's true, thats why i use an ouroboros or scorpio instead. Even eagle bearer can perform better if used right

[livid sorrel]

eagle bearer has no damage talent either, but the stats does put it ahead of elmo

[marsh pilot]

Tyvm! ❤️

[cerulean smelt]

only reason people trip over elmos is because streams hype it up 😹

[broken garnet]

Yeah thats what i meant mb

[cerulean smelt]

@marsh pilot you know "destroy heroic content with this build! and they main the elmos" 😹

[broken garnet]

Yeah and everybody runs it so it kinda has a false image around it as a god sent weapon 😭✌🏻

[cerulean smelt]

meanwhile my elmos collect dust in stash 😹

[broken garnet]

Atp bruh jus gimme the house from div 1 and im chillin, or the div 1 lightweight m4 used be SO TOUGH

[livid sorrel]

We got the apartment

[broken garnet]

Thats somewhere in my stash forgot about it

[cerulean smelt]

they do have a lightweight m4 too i think?

[broken garnet]

Np, but definitely don't go out of your way for a st elmos trust me

[marsh pilot]

Thx guys. Ok, Alejandro and Police-M4. I will try them out.

[broken garnet]

In div 1 it was an assault rifle while here its just a rifle unfortunately

[cerulean smelt]

well, autofiring rifle now so an AR techincally i think? 🤔

[broken garnet]

For the police m4 PREFERABLY you want optimist, fast hands, flatline, or strained as a talent

[broken garnet]

That would be true yeah 🤔, might try it out for the rifle build im tryna make

[subtle bluff]

No

[marsh pilot]

I will try the one with the Memento backpack. I have all the pieces now. 4pc Striker, Equalizer, Memento. I also have the Overdogs. I will see how it goes and then maybe swap for even more dps.

[broken garnet]

I mean thats what i see most people use including myself but good to know 😭✌🏻

[marsh pilot]

So, for the talent on the M4. According to the spreadsheet it is "Killer" in 1st place

[broken garnet]

Oh right forgot about that one but definitely that one yes

[cerulean smelt]

if you matchmake, that talent is hard to maintain or get

[broken garnet]

Then obviously attributes DMGTTOC (Damage to targets out of cover)

[broken garnet]

Yeah thats what i remembered so i suggested the other stuff

[subtle bluff]

Like mentioned with the clip above.

[silent storm]

LWM4 with Rifleman is the way to go

Or UIC15 MOD2 with Rifleman

[broken garnet]

Gonna try this

[silent storm]

With the LWM4 you will want some form of Weapon Handling be it from Tipping Scales or brandset

[dense roost]

this is just insulting dude oh my god 😭

[silent storm]

UIC15 MOD2 is much more stable if you don't have the WH

[livid sorrel]

keep rolling the recal

[strong cave]

im VERY late to this but yeah he basically gave us the foundation to move forward with all of his stuff. i highly doubt anyone is going to take his role and continue it on

[dense roost]

I am, been trying to get DTTOOC for like a week

[broken garnet]

Only if you could recalibrate exotics 😭✌🏻

[dense roost]

dude fr 😭

[strong cave]

you can tho, unless im missing part of a joke or something 😭

edit: recalibrate... not reroll. i need to learn to read.... 😭

[broken garnet]

Yeah thats what i meant rerolling it, unfortunately you can't directly remove stuff off of them like you can a high end or gearset item 🥀

[strong cave]

it genuinely would be cool to recalibrate an exotic but i get how absolutely easy that would be and be a bad thing

[grizzled garnet]

the new core strength gearset... godly, good, eh or bad?

[strong cave]

trash

[subtle bluff]

This season there is too much shit.

[grizzled garnet]

ye i thought so. looks like rainbow build the gearset

[strong cave]

honestly agreed. but i will say, that new AR im loving bigtime. plus the BT9 kill squads are genuinely a challenge and im loving it

[ivory abyss]

I enjoy the new AR also

[subtle bluff]

Haven't even done that but I've only been on for like 3 hours.

[ivory abyss]

I just wish it had more rounds lol

[strong cave]

ive been maining it with MG5 fast hands as a backup gun

honestly, it should only have 50 rounds. it has a built in damage talent and its a literally threat reduction tool. pair it with decoy and youre almost never targeted

VERY good exotic. its easily an A tier on my list

I dare say it competes with St Elmos now due to the threat reduction on it and when you swap to it, the burst DPS is insane. has both utility usage and dps usage

[ivory abyss]

like 50 rounds is pedestrian imo lol being exotic should just get 60 round mag

[livid sorrel]

meet potential gearset, 0 dps 0 skill 7 hundred yt videos on legendary tanking

[nimble trench]

Any build suggestions for master difficulty, trying to get tinkerer. I’m not looking for a fast clear time I’m just looking to get through it

[livid sorrel]

the typical builds should suffice. what's your current builds?

[broken garnet]

Trash, this is a season where the gear and weapons are eh but the content so far has been great. Prototype gear so far ain't worth the hassle tho.

[livid sorrel]

New modifier is kinda fun to play around with

[ivory abyss]

its unfort too because core str couldve been really good

[strange vortex]

looking for a build that is tanky and puts dps out been trying to work on this as an armour regen one but it feels less than stellar , i switched from a heartbreaker build and a 2 blue striker build
Mask : chill out
chest: obliterate perk
backpack: perfect bloodsucker
kneepads: fox's prayer

[dense roost]

Is the new exotic mask good? Seems like it has a lot of potential even if it's very expensive to get set up lol

[livid sorrel]

can't have both tanky and dps

[strange vortex]

i mean just not shredded by 3 bullets lol

[livid sorrel]

tanky just gets you shredded by 5 instead

[grizzled garnet]

rather than killing your damage output with blue cores try learning positioning

[dense roost]

Or just use exodus gloves if ur really worried about it they're basically the best insurance policy you can have on red builds without tanking your damage

[strong cave]

uh 💀

[strange vortex]

i hadnt considered exodus

[flint arch]

here's my guide to not die with 6 red cores, anyway kthxbye

[strange vortex]

let me guess it is a google doc that says Git Gud ?

[ivory abyss]

People always say that there is no tanky/dps builds when people ask and then post that link for the 6 red cores lol and yet so many people still use tanky dps builds and do fine

literally nothingbutskillz is using one right now and solo'd escalation with it

ikia always used one solo, and many others lol

[cerulean smelt]

define fine? taking 10 years to complete a mission on heroic? compared to like 1 year in all reds?

[ivory abyss]

def not 10 years

[strange vortex]

i have been watching too much widdz i gotta look at nbs

[ivory abyss]

NBS literally has been using chameleon and HB tech tank build with salvo and has cleared escalation missions solo and everything else and it didnt take sooo much longer to do so not sure why people act like all reds is such a massive difference lol

[livid sorrel]

anything goes at heroic and below
skills can definitely make up for a drop in dps, but that's not something most players have

[ivory abyss]

he def is not doing anything special that people cannot do lol this game isnt like CS go or cod where you need precision aim etc lol

hes just looking at a target and shooting behind a shield in the open

[cerulean smelt]

here's a red build saving a group of 3 blue builds video#td2-build-advice message

[ivory abyss]

and you can find stuff like this of people in blue builds saving all reds lol

[livid sorrel]

they're good players, i won't deny that, but i doubt most people here can play at that level

[ivory abyss]

yeah but good in the division isnt the same as good in a competitve game the ceiling isnt as high

[cerulean smelt]

nbs is probably years of knowing spawn points and other knowledge. new bros are trying to face tank everything and wonder why they go down

[ivory abyss]

and yeah they might go down at first using the tank build or whatever but they will learn and its not like it takes a lot of time to do that lol

[livid sorrel]

at that point just use red anyway, they'll learn to not get hit and have the benefit of not shooting nerf darts

[strange vortex]

i just wanted to see if anyone had advice to make my build a bit stronger in the dps i can handle taking damage just fine but i dont want to ruin my crus shield

[ivory abyss]

look at the build spreadsheet and look for tech tanks those are prob what you want

[strange vortex]

and i miss using backfire being tanky hitting 1.8m lol

[strange vortex]

thank you

[livid sorrel]

try technician spec for artificer hive, it repairs your shield without having to deploy it

[ivory abyss]

also if you know who NBS is he is streaming i think escalation rn, and hes now using striker tech tank i believe

[broken hazel]

Does anyone know how high the augments level?

[cerulean smelt]

people noticed 5 segments and think things goes up .2 per level

[broken hazel]

Thank you

[strange vortex]

interesting i will look into this !

[livid sorrel]

it's pretty much the core of techtank builds, can just slap it into any dps build

[ivory abyss]

In the spreadsheet all the tech tank builds have that with them also

[strange vortex]

do you have a link to the spreadsheet im new here

[ivory abyss]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/edit?tab=t.0

[livid sorrel]

in the pins

[ivory abyss]

If you scroll down there is a tech tank section towards the middle

[broken garnet]

Yeah nah unfortunately armor 2.0 is buns so there is no real like TANKY builds

[strange vortex]

thats so helpful thank you so much!

[cerulean smelt]

so instead of shredded in 3 you want shredded in 6?

[strange vortex]

yeah i agree but with the new agitator exotic i hope the new gear set can shake it up a little for people who like to tank

i really wish we could mod exotics

[broken garnet]

It might be able too, unfortunately the closest thing you're getting to a tank from what I've seen is prototyped gear with blue cores, thats the only thing i can think of tho

[cerulean smelt]

you can the gears. the new mask is the exception

[strange vortex]

i mean like weapons sorry

[broken garnet]

Even then unless they changed it prototype gear is only usable for very few things...

[cerulean smelt]

outside of raids/incursions and pvp anyways 😹

[broken garnet]

Figured

[livid sorrel]

just give shields like 1000 threat problem solved

[strange vortex]

i saw that i feel like its kinda pointless outside of escalation with the stat squish it ends up no better than normal maxxed gear

[broken garnet]

So in terms of prototype gear I'd suggest doing what im currently doing and not bothering with it till its expanded upon and has more than like 2 uses 💀✌🏻

[livid sorrel]

until they add recal and optimization i aint touching it

[smoky latch]

Same

[junior lagoon]

what global modifiers is the way to go ? magazine size?

[broken garnet]

Exactly, but more or less your best bet is like a memento typa build so you can get bonus armor on every kill. I ain't a build genius tho so don't take my word for it

[cerulean smelt]

i took a chance with my lexington 😹

[broken garnet]

OH NAW 😭✌🏻

[livid sorrel]

up to you really, hsd is a no brainer for headshot builds

[smoky latch]

Do you mean seasonal modifiers or global directives? lol

[livid sorrel]

the effects are pretty straightforward but getting them isn't, kinda fun though

[junior lagoon]

global modifiers is what it is calles but seasonal modifier in your terms

[smoky latch]

The terminology is crazy sometimes

Idk yet, working on unlocking stuff

[junior lagoon]

lol yes i had to double check

[livid sorrel]

i think saturate, invert, convert?

i need a list of the passives damn

[cerulean smelt]

#ask-td2-community message
result to prototyping it
real result after logging off and back on
#ask-td2-community message

[broken garnet]

So if i saw that correctly it nerfed two of the stats..?

[smoky latch]

Check v1rtualzz on twitter

[cerulean smelt]

hard to say. there's just increasing offense while decreasing the defense and utility 😹

[ivory abyss]

Its always the same 3 for global? Weapon Handling etc etc

[cerulean smelt]

nah, the 2 stats are just maxed out from what it had

[livid sorrel]

Yeah, can change the effect with Convert passive

[ivory abyss]

Interesting

[broken garnet]

Alright was gonna say, the orange bar was completely empty 💀✌🏻

But nah normal un-prototyped gear has been doin just fine so not even gonna bother with it 😭✌🏻

[livid sorrel]

this global modifier is kinda fun to play around with ngl

[cerulean smelt]

first link was a visual bug. looked like i won the lottery even though my talent changed
logged off and back on. got new actual result so extra maxed AR damage the health, dttooc and talent just reverted back to it's normal state before i prototyped it

[broken garnet]

This is... Quite the system the devs came up with 😹✌🏻

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, and you see why people were upset with it in PTS

[broken garnet]

Yeah ngl at this point they should've just made it classified gear from div 1, feel like a LOT of people would be more happy with that

[flint arch]

bigger mag size

[smoky latch]

What's that one called? Currently using WH and liking it

[livid sorrel]

It's one of the converts

[vivid jolt]

this visual bug is absolute ragebait hahaha

[cerulean smelt]

nah, it's working as intended

[vivid jolt]

oh yeah upgrading one stat fine, just don't show all 3 then rugpull me

[cerulean smelt]

call it a new feature if you will

next tuesday they'll have it fixed "APRIL FOOL'S!!!!!"

[vivid jolt]

if it was upgrading all 3 all the time it would be fixed already

[cerulean smelt]

nah it's gotta go in with other visual bug and other issues we've reported. if it was staying maxed but the damage wasn't there then yes it would've been fixed immediately. think the store thing was their all hands on deck though as it involved money and they didn't want to get sued into the oblivion. next update they give us. due to our store bug we're out of funds so division 2 and division 1 will shutdown

[vivid jolt]

yeah it was a snarky remark dw man

[lean cairn]

does anyone know what mods are on this build to make it do the 4-5 mil damage ? coz i cant seem to get it the same as i seen it in a short clip

[cerulean smelt]

😹 just like me making a joke about twitch drops not working and someone took it seriously. i even wrote out late april fool's joke in my comment 😹

[vivid jolt]

anniversary global event probably

[cerulean smelt]

if not anniversay the one before that 😹 looks like it'd be one of those youtube click bait "do 5 mill damage minimum and destroy legendary with this build!" then they show this and their "good" clips without explaining it during global modifiers or say the Redlin over thing

[junior lagoon]

That was me and you said therr are no twitch drops. It could be true

[cerulean smelt]

not sure if a dev has to push a button or switch in their servers to enable twitch drops on time or if the can have a schedule coding to do that for them, but i imagine the store thing had them panicking to fix it 😹

would've been a lot of faith going down the drain

[livid sorrel]

someone already said global event but the 30 expertise is also doing a lot of carrying

[subtle bluff]

Like this?

[subtle bluff]

Has to be GE.

[lean cairn]

yeah the guy finally responded to me and said it was also away to but old seasonal modifiers on aswell

[livid sorrel]

only in manhunt missions

[subtle bluff]

That's most of it.

[lean cairn]

but i still dont know about this one tho haha

[subtle bluff]

There modifiers on.

[livid sorrel]

Most of div2 yt is just clickbait

[cerulean smelt]

looks like a modified hotshot build but rifle edition 😹

[strong cave]

wonder how many people here tried to click "play"

[cerulean smelt]

i'm still waiting for the blue striker backfire OP escalation builds

[lean cairn]

anyone got one op tank/insane damge build that works now ?

[livid sorrel]

this seems familiar

[solar sable]

tank and damage dont go in the same sentence

[subtle bluff]

No. If there were one it'd be all over YouTube. Half of those people copy someone else.

[lone glacier]

NBB Bulwark

[strong cave]

this is the only tank build I recommend

[flint arch]

a tank i tolerate

[lone glacier]

I always was and always will be a ooga booga DPS player

[dark horizon]

You can basically use any weapon, have 6th skill tier, have 2mil armor. What do you think?

[livid sorrel]

😌

[dark horizon]

(status)

[worn elbow]

What is that thing

[subtle bluff]

You've got to see my hornbreaker

[dark horizon]

Try it

[junior lagoon]

I like Wolf . The guy is at least tryimg but even i am not convinced

[strong cave]

id rather uninstall than try that

[dark horizon]

Just try it in conflict

[subtle bluff]

it's something fun to build but once you hit any hard content or scaling content it does not much in the end.

[strong cave]

^ yes please, give me easier lobbies

[junior lagoon]

And i used his foundry bulwark-ninja build to solo master "Pact". so i have respect for the guy

[dark horizon]

Bruuuhhhh🤦🏻‍♂️

[livid sorrel]

I once tried HB with EB for DZ

[strong cave]

thats not bad. problem is it wont last against regen or sys corr anti-pulse

[worn elbow]

Btw good people had anyone figured out how much damage protection from elites you could get from this season modifier?

[subtle bluff]

exactly

[subtle bluff]

what? PFE has a cap..

[strong cave]

i really need them. tired of fighting against umbra 24/7

[livid sorrel]

True, I'm completely clueless in pvp, just hoping i wouldn't die immediately

[worn elbow]

Oh it does how much?

[subtle bluff]

80

[livid sorrel]

The closest thing I have to a pvp build is hb memento for dz

[worn elbow]

Oh nice but how much could you get from the modifier alone if you know

[junior lagoon]

get an umbra build and do some conflict matches. this gives you an idea

[subtle bluff]

I've done like 4 builds. Umbra Capa/Pesti, Mortar/Shield, some brazen six12 thing... and a 1886 build

[flint arch]

@strong cave got a better clip of you drawing the aggro of a group of enemies at the door

[subtle bluff]

no idea. I don't really mess with modifiers

[worn elbow]

I never made a dz or conflict build

[worn elbow]

Thanks good lad

[livid sorrel]

0.5% per stack

8 base stacks, 4 per maxed active modifier so 20 base after maxing all 3

[worn elbow]

So it could be something like 20%? Maybe

Or I did the math wrong

[livid sorrel]

10% without any other passive modifiers

[worn elbow]

I see thanks

[livid sorrel]

Could probably get like 22% with Saturate, Invert, Convert

[cerulean smelt]

you gotta remember leveling all 3 actives increases how many stacks you get as well as the passives you use

[lone violet]

ooo

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i'm waiting on a carry to make this build 😹

[karmic seal]

Have a build for skill dps/ heals. Is my capacitor good or is there anything I need to change?

[broken garnet]

You probably want damage to targets out of cover instead of headshot damage

But besides that it should be fine, never really used the capacitor before but thats what I've seen most run with it

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly wan't a fan of it, but @hexed steppe changed my ming on it

[strong cave]

At least it's not my Ninjabike version lol

[subtle bluff]

here

[broken garnet]

Yeah was thinking about trying it but I'm not really a skill build person 😭✌🏻

[strong cave]

We indeed got shafted that run because shd 90 player came with a whatever the hell build

[flint arch]

"not sure whether to use merciless or sacrum"

[broken garnet]

All exotic build from div 1 type build 😭✌🏻

[strong cave]

The pain in my soul reading that

[flint arch]

"exotics must be all good"

[amber atlas]

Hey guys I am trying to build my library. I have talents I like to store. I have them but I can't remove them and place them in my library. They are not exotics or named weapons. Just regular looted ones. What am I missing?

[strong cave]

I had to hold myself completely back. I knew I was going to say it and it'll go in one ear out the other

[karmic seal]

3rd one seems the best for group

[broken garnet]

"If the house is good then barrets chest piece must be even better!"

[flint arch]

each weapon's talents are stored separately in the library, did you check which weapon category they are in

[strong cave]

I just swapped to determine that game and still couldnt carry

[karmic seal]

I ran mine rn solo and it works pretty well for the most part. I even did it for the Razorback and it did a decent job at healing the team... at least the turret did lol

But I mainly like it for this backpack

[uncut yarrow]

now with this new Core set, how are we healing? i have armor, i have damage, but what sustainability do we build into?

[lone violet]

whats the other pieces

[harsh sable]

can someone pm me need help w my build abit im kinda stuck

[flint arch]

just post it here

[harsh sable]

whats next for me?

[flint arch]

show your stats

[karmic seal]

Still havent gotten my protos yet

[lone violet]

im about to make EB with my striker cause the shock is so inconsistent

[tranquil birch]

whats the best set for a healer build?

[harsh sable]

where do i get these?

[tranquil birch]

future init?

[solar sable]

check the pinned Spreadsheet for FI Healer

[flint arch]

black tusk bounties

[livid sorrel]

overdogs, striker holster

[cerulean smelt]

it's a secret. @strong cave has to approve of you to getting the rest 😹
j/k he posted a more clearer version way up there ☝️ someplace. it's like 3 gila with pointman, 1 uzina, catharsis and i forget the last piece honestly

[flint arch]

that CHC is looking a little low, you ideally want to get 60%

[solar sable]

1pc belstone

[lost wren]

so what's the build you use for escalation? striker dps with turmoil?

[harsh sable]

why swap holster isnt the holster i got rlly good?

[flint arch]

RoF is not that good

[livid sorrel]

Overdogs is better

[harsh sable]

ig i need better mods for that? like the thing u put into some gear

[flint arch]

change your CHD attributes to CHC

[livid sorrel]

Or switch your attributes

[cerulean smelt]

works great for me, but i did swap off it as in escalation GWH the mounted gun shot weirdly

[flint arch]

if your CHC and CHD is really lopsided, you can try aiming for a 1:2 crit ratio to start off with first

[livid sorrel]

Turmoil cuts your dmg in half

[lone violet]

bruh

[flint arch]

also i'm eternally pissed towards people who have overdogs at anywhere below SHD 500

[harsh sable]

keep this roll?

[cerulean smelt]

fancy component you have there

[ivory abyss]

it only rolls like that

[flint arch]

wait did they fix the overdogs and shroud's lack of a reconfig blueprint yet

[harsh sable]

oh ok

[livid sorrel]

Overdogs always has the same stats, but that's a good roll

[ivory abyss]

you can only boost the stats up more, but it always rolls that

[livid sorrel]

Looks like 7 optimizations to perfect

[cerulean smelt]

i believe there are reconfig blueprints

[lone violet]

i swear DTTOC does not exist when im re rolling these exotics

[cerulean smelt]

probably a good thing you dont' gamble in real life then? 🤔

[livid sorrel]

99% of agents stop before they hit it big

[flint arch]

just play a gacha game, you'll be happy with div 2's odds real soon (until you get to prototype gear)

[harsh sable]

is bountys the fastest way to get more of them i need quite a few of diffrent ones

[lone violet]

then the EB i just made was a slap in the face

[cerulean smelt]

until you find out 99.9% people just stash the gun 😹

[flint arch]

i mean you can just craft them but considering your SHD level you're going to have to contend with the blueprints being only 1 in a pool of 600-ish blueprints

[lone violet]

i mean i like it but also st elmo is inconsistent

[flint arch]

get to grinding those level 3/4 control points, you'll have to capture them more than 600 times

[livid sorrel]

can confirm have been playing gacha games for like 7 years

[harsh sable]

do they drop from the retail thingy bosses? since i can farm both then?

[flint arch]

capturing a cp in retal is the same thing as capturing a cp normally

the specific blueprints you get from retal are separate though

[harsh sable]

yea but the thing i need do they drop from the killsquad there?

[flint arch]

no, the blueprints are in the normal blueprint pool, you get those by clearing level 3-4 control points

[harsh sable]

ahh alr i see

[flint arch]

the blueprints you get from retal completion and kill squad elimination are all just exotics

[flint arch]

you made me realize i've been playing a series of particular chinese gacha games made by a particular chinese company for around 6 years now

the gambling addiction is real

[uncut yarrow]

6 red cores with 2 mil armor is kinda nuts

[onyx sage]

when will u watch me play requiem again

[livid sorrel]

that doesn't really mean much when you can change foundry bulwark to blue

[uncut yarrow]

but i do more damage than Foundry

now i will say i am a fan of my Foundry build. i manage to outheal a whole lot with that thing

kinda wanna swap off the Chameleon. its a cool gun but it just isnt that fun for me

[flint arch]

i keep passing out at 7 pm i'm sorry 😭 i wanted to watch your streams but my body won't let me

[lone violet]

i need to use another weapon with striker but idk what

[uncut yarrow]

rock Iron Lung trust

[flint arch]

have you tried iron lung

[uncut yarrow]

see what i mean

its a dope exotic, highkey

[flint arch]

easily turns rogues, hunters and BT kill squads into swiss cheese

[uncut yarrow]

idk about easily. im low level (SHD 250) and mid at this game, BUT, but, its still strong

i have a build for it but it doesnt lean into fire at all. with the new season im sure theres ways to make the fire spread with whatever that backpack skill is and make it just cook everything

[livid sorrel]

markiplier gun

[flint arch]

well i just slap it onto my striker build

[livid sorrel]

it's one of my first exotics

[flint arch]

i am a mega glass cannon but it matters not if the enemy can't shoot you at all

[uncut yarrow]

fire as a status is very strong cuz its like banshee but they dont bend over behind cover

[flint arch]

shock has the same problem

[uncut yarrow]

im boutta rock St Elmos on this new Core build i just made

i cant say ive ever actually really used Elmos? i got it when me and some buddies were playing cuz we were into DZ and Elmos had just come out, but i quit like right after getting one

im actually just about to hop into a random Retalitation and see how this build feels

[onyx sage]

markiplier gun

[uncut yarrow]

my Banshee has like 93% haste... dont know what that means but im about to feel it and its about to be sick

super short CD too... kinda lit

[livid sorrel]

skill haste is shorter cd

[uncut yarrow]

oh

[flint arch]

markiplier gun

[uncut yarrow]

lol

[lost wren]

so what should you use for escalation

[lone violet]

Not yet also is there a way to not show my specialization weapon?

[next dawn]

2.4 mill armor
85K armor regen
Question: how can I optimize this even more?

[lone violet]

Ninja bike it’s bleak

[flint arch]

you go 1 layer down in the inventory menu, you press X, there will be an option to hide your specialization weapon

[livid sorrel]

just stick to the usual builds

[flint arch]

I suggest trashing the build and starting over honestly

[uncut blade]

is this any good?
the named armor are nightwatcher and cloak, the AR is the lexington

[next dawn]

you funny man

[lone violet]

🗣️

[livid sorrel]

not really, even for a hb build

[flint arch]

Heartbreaker guide, but also see this image

[lone violet]

I gotten a few uses out of red HB like using the aa 12 and doming heads

Police m4 my love

[grizzled garnet]

is bighorn any good in the current state of builds?

[flint arch]

i used it for like 15 minutes and threw all the pieces away because in the end it just felt like worse PVGC Striker without the PGC

[livid sorrel]

linked laser pointer being broken, not being able to get bonus armor back at max stacks

[flint arch]

good in PVP, mid at best in PVE

[grizzled garnet]

;-;

[flint arch]

some crap i made for copy and pasting

- The bonus armor (survivability) you get from HB's effect w/ full red will not actually help you as much as you may expect. It might let you, what, tank like 10 more bullets?
- For maximum damage with HB, you also want to go with Vigilance. Vigilance does not go away when you lose bonus armor. Problem is, your bonus armor doesn't last very long under enemy gunfire.
- The only way to regain lost bonus armor is to regain the slowly decaying HB stacks, so if you lose all of your bonus armor, have fun playing a jank version of Striker while worrying about Vigilance.
- Linked Laser Pointer is not very consistent, makes you lose 5% CHC on your weapon, and stops you from using any exotics or HE guns without long rails (unless you can hit headshots all the time, but say hello to the humble warhound)
- Since you can't use Gunner, no innate 10% AoK for you. Unless you want to farm for a unicorn PS backpack, good luck on trying to conserve armor kits.

Please just use Striker.

also HB is the sole reason why nightwatcher gets used (for all the wrong reasons)

[red fox]

So is core strength good enough to compete with strikers et al? or not worth the grind? lot of BS out there so far

[flint arch]

core strength is 1000000% never going to compete with strikers or any DPS-tailored build

[red fox]

lol striker it is!

[flint arch]

im not too sure about the damage calculation behind the other gear sets, but for strikers it's very simple.

Core strength only gives you a meager amount of stats even when comparing to a high-end build
Strikers gives you a damage amp

[strong cave]

Strikers you just shoot shit and it gives damage. Core strength sounds good on paper but is a nothing burger. Hell, Aegis has better usage than Core Strength