td2-build-advice

[serene hare]

Only by completing stuffs I get those points?

[shy willow]

Season XP

[atomic turtle]

Do stuff that gives a ton of event pass XP, like Legendary missions.

Priority Objectives can reward a handsome amount as well.

[flint arch]

ah yes, Legendary missions

very easy to pull off (if you're dien)

[shy willow]

So much efficiency

[atomic turtle]

The event has been out for nearly a month, to be fair. If you're only starting the game now, then yeah, you're gonna have to grind hard. That's just how it is. Everything ends eventually.

[serene hare]

How do I check this?
ANNA is always talking about "priority objectives", but I never see a pointer.

[devout knoll]

Turmoil or overdogs, this is my current predicament. Can anyone help out?

[atomic turtle]

Just don't die 4head

[shy willow]

Overdogs

[flint arch]

turmoil halves your single-target damage for not much gain

[atomic turtle]

It's in the menu tab.

[shy willow]

The only places I unironically run turmoil are occasionally headhunter and lengmo pesti

[flint arch]

it's like a fun thing to use if you're carrying some level 15 player and has some niche applications but is otherwise not very useful

[devout knoll]

Wait it halves it? From what it reads it seems to take 50% of the 100% dmg you do to the target you are shooting as an additional dmg instance.

[flint arch]

it halves your single-target damage

[devout knoll]

To an enemy in range other then what you are shooting.

[atomic turtle]

No, that would be busted.

[serene hare]

There's a lot of things in the menu tab.

[shy willow]

It's not the same target either

So you're randomly peppering ads

[serene hare]

Well, it will take time.

[devout knoll]

Ah therefore the deal dmg normally note under it.

[flint arch]

You shoot an enemy, you normally deal 1,000,000 damage, but now with Turmoil the enemy only receives 500,000 damage, and 500,000 damage is spread to a random nearby enemy

[atomic turtle]

Esc > Anniversary Event > Priority Objectives (At the top).

[serene hare]

I hope it will be worth it.

[serene hare]

No, I meant that there's a lot to do.

[devout knoll]

So you just do 50/50 split and kill 2 at once at the same time you couldve killed 2 seperately.

[atomic turtle]

Just pick which ever gives the most.

You can skip or abandon unfavorable selections.

[atomic turtle]

If there's only two enemies left, yes.

[devout knoll]

Ok ty all!

[atomic turtle]

This gets complicated with more enemies on the field though.

[flint arch]

If there's a group of enemies, good luck!

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, lmao.

[flint arch]

Need to kill that grenadier in the back who's going to wipe your team if you don't kill them right now? Have fun starting the mission all over again

[atomic turtle]

What about ND + Turmoil?

[flint arch]

🤢

[woeful zodiac]

Can anyone recommend me a Tinkerer and Sheriff build?

[flint arch]

those two are fundamentally incompatible

[atomic turtle]

I think he meant two separate builds for each.

[flint arch]

[woeful zodiac]

I meant separately

[flint arch]

That's too non-specific though

What are you trying to do with either

[atomic turtle]

Striker + Obliterate or Sacrifice w/ ACS-12 Brazen/Pummel

Sheriff, idk. Haven't used it at all.

[languid chasm]

Do any of you have a good field suggestion for a tanky build with DPS

[woeful zodiac]

Since BTSU Team 9 can drop the Tinkerer and Sheriff blueprint, I wanna try something with the 2 items

[flint arch]

[atomic turtle]

That doesn't exist.

[flint arch]

Tinkerer can fit into any number of your basic "shoot enemy more, deal more damage" builds

[woeful zodiac]

Definitely using Brazen and Pummel

[flint arch]

Run full red Striker and learn how to position. No need to be tanky if you never get hit

[woeful zodiac]

Saw a Sheriff build with Negotiators

Idk if its good gameplay wise tho

[atomic turtle]

All I can think of is some whacky ass hybrid of a sniper shotgun using Chainkiller.

[flint arch]

I feel like a Diamondback would be better than that

[atomic turtle]

All the spy mains hate Diamondback.

[atomic turtle]

It's banned in every TF2 comp league.

[woeful zodiac]

I would use HF with the Tinkerer

[atomic turtle]

Go for it. It's a CQB gear set afterall.

I think it's funny though. The shotgun is gonna have that tight of a spread but people still gonna use it up close.

[woeful zodiac]

I mean if the hitbox of the Sheriff didn't maximize when u move, I would definitely use it

[atomic turtle]

Did the devs ever eventually fix the spread going back to normal when using cover?

[woeful zodiac]

I think they did

[broken edge]

for sheriff? it's fixed now

and it's beautiful

[subtle bear]

this is the build

[solar sable]

not bad but, why does ur Equalizer have a blue in it?

[subtle bear]

12% from elite

[solar sable]

not the mod, the attribute

[subtle bear]

oh its explosive resis

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, but why?

[solar sable]

that ^

[subtle bear]

truly i have no idea must be i change one of the stat and cant change anymore

[atomic turtle]

rip equalizer

[subtle bear]

yup

should i just farm for anothr one ?

[atomic turtle]

I imagine it's not so bad that it's urgent, but if you get anther with the right attributes, 100% yes, replace it.

I'd reroll the blue on the backpack and just drop PfE algtogether, but that chest works fine for the time being.

If it's just one attribute, you should be fine.

[subtle bear]

whats pfe ?

[atomic turtle]

Protection from Elites.

[queen brook]

I’m looking for a good pve Nemesis build, any tips or recommendations?

[subtle bear]

ah ok hey thanks man

[buoyant perch]

Standard sniper build in the pinned spreadsheet

[queen brook]

Thank you! 🙏

[rich prairie]

Anyone can help me what gearset i should use for sniper and rifle?

[smoky latch]

Maybe the one from the screenshot above

[flint arch]

Where my 2pc 🦄 habsburg with overdogs

[atomic turtle]

Keep farming, I'm sure you'll get it one day. Maybe Division 4 will be out by then.

[flint arch]

I'll just ask Krampus (if Habsburg ever becomes TL in Downtown East)

[queen brook]

[flint arch]

If I grinded for it nonstop for 24 hours I will probably get at least 1 🦄

[atomic turtle]

Hey Corrupt.

Have fun getting Investors.

[flint arch]

Fk.

I can't wait to waste months only to get an item that is slightly worse for my build

[atomic turtle]

Just pretend the Catharsis is Investors with WD and 3 minor blues.

[flint arch]

not the goddamned "Classified" Striker

[languid chasm]

Do any of you have any build suggestions for the oxpacker

[flint arch]

oh I actually have an Emperor's Guard with CHC lmao

[flint arch]

Throw the Oxpecker away, it's not a good exotic

[languid chasm]

Is the bighorn good

[smoky latch]

Shines in PvP but pretty mediocre in PvE

[languid chasm]

Okay do any of you have a good suggestion for build for the bighorn and the Lexington

[smoky latch]

Look up "Bighorn PvE" in this channel

Same for Striker's actually

[languid chasm]

Bighorn PVE

[smoky latch]

Yeah enter that into the search bar lol

[atomic turtle]

It's funny cause you don't even need them. You can just equip 1p of Belstone. 😂

[flint arch]

[subtle bluff]

.................................................................................

[solar sable]

uhm sir

[toxic frigate]

Is it possible to have a build where you have 6 Reds and 6 Yellow at same time

[subtle bluff]

Only during GE

[atomic turtle]

You can have 6 Red Cores and 6 Yellow minors if that's what you meant.

[toxic frigate]

Not minor, 6 Yellow cores

I calculate you can do most 5 Red and 6 Yellow

[subtle bluff]

You can get close. I think you can get 5 and 6.

[toxic frigate]

But I wonder if it's possible to have both yeah

[subtle bluff]

Nope

[atomic turtle]

If it ever becomes possible, I have a feeling Mr.Chow would be the first to find a way to get 6/6/6 across the board.

[toxic frigate]

[hexed steppe]

you can almost hit a 6/6 if using kard custom in hand... and if youre lucky enough to have a 15%wd pre-nerf picaros, you can 6/6... yes there are a few floating around

[toxic frigate]

uh im not using memento for reference

[hexed steppe]

would be foolish not too

[toxic frigate]

its the +1 for brands that i forgot the name

[shy willow]

Ewwwwww

[hexed steppe]

it gives an additional 30%-60% weapon damage on top of its core

[toxic frigate]

ninja?

[hexed steppe]

ah yes, the foolish one

[atomic turtle]

Local, what do you think of my Classy Striker Build?

[flint arch]

🤢

[hexed steppe]

catharsis is a good component

[atomic turtle]

Well, pretend it's an Investors with 3 minor blues. Placeholder.txt

[hexed steppe]

is that a new one coming, ill need to look it up

[shy willow]

Yknow literally every unicorn you've ever farmed for

Imagine that grind, but genuinely 1 million times worse

[atomic turtle]

lmfao, yeah.

Some guy on reddit spent 72 exo components to get a full Red one.

[shy willow]

Every single thing on the damn mask is completely randomised, AND THERES AN EXTRA ATTRIBUTE TO MESS WITH THE RNG

[flint arch]

And you get to enjoy negligible increases in utility

[atomic turtle]

Not even sure if the attributes were good, tbh. I didn't see it.

[hexed steppe]

so 60% crit damage and 4% regen, assuming same layout

[atomic turtle]

30% CHD, 15% Skill Efficiency, 3% Armor Regen, assuming all minors are either red, yellow, or blue.

Core isn't taken into account but is still randomized.

[smoky latch]

Slot machine, baby

[flint arch]

Gotta invest to be an investor

[hexed steppe]

was going by this layout, but yeah 3% regen

where you assume skill efficiency?

[flint arch]

I think they were talking about the potential stat boosts if Investor had 3 red/yellow/blue rolls

[atomic turtle]

Well the idea, is Red Mask with 3 minor blues, and Belstone knees with CHC/CHD, the emperor's guard was a meme add in.

[flint arch]

Not specifically for the "Classified" Striker build above

[hexed steppe]

actually, no 4% regen, emperors guard +3%

is it not a stat boost for all the minors on the build?

[atomic turtle]

No, just the mask.

[hexed steppe]

oh, trash piece then

[atomic turtle]

LMAO

[hexed steppe]

just use memento

[atomic turtle]

Yes, but you lose Striker Backpack.

[hexed steppe]

you also lose overdogs

[atomic turtle]

Right, but I'm going for meme Armor Regen, not DMG.

Trying to recreate Classy Striker, here.

[hexed steppe]

30% amp will outweigh anything that can produce, memento will outweigh it as well i think

[hexed steppe]

do it up. its gonna be a fun farm

[atomic turtle]

Eeyup. Looking forward to it already.

[hexed steppe]

i think it would be a lot easier to just overdogs/pallisade/gunner and still have a lot of armor being stacked without losing bearly any damage

if it was all minors that would be a different story, but just 3 and you have to fight with it for years to get the right one, nah

[atomic turtle]

Well that would be kind of busted. Can you imagine having like... practically 20% Armor Regen? Shit would be broken.

[flint arch]

You could probably solo Legendary with full blue just by how invincible you are with that much armor regen

[hexed steppe]

like using youre example build above, it would be 4% regen, 60%chd if it was all minors. not too broken i dont think

[atomic turtle]

Seriously. You just will not die. That's like... Repairing 500K armor /s.

[flint arch]

Also if you went full red, that's 220% CHD

[hexed steppe]

you wouldnt go anywhere either

[flint arch]

That's like having Backfire's effect at max forever with no downsides

[atomic turtle]

Eh... it might take a few hours maybe a day. But I could still solo Legendary.

[hexed steppe]

then add backfire on top

[flint arch]

420% CHD

[atomic turtle]

fkin lmao dude

[smoky latch]

👀

[hexed steppe]

tipping gets a lot of chd tho

👆 must be tipping

[flint arch]

TS with backpack and chest + swap to Backfire at the last second

[atomic turtle]

😭

[smoky latch]

TS Backfire, not recommended lol

[atomic turtle]

That much CHD is just dumb.

That should not be a thing. Like at all.

[hexed steppe]

diminishing returns

[atomic turtle]

Local with 20% Armor Regen, do you think there could actually be a tank build that finally does something for their time without needing a shield?

Honest question. Since now they can supposedly aggro more threat and fire with a primary weapon.

[hexed steppe]

so i think a full minor investor could be interesting, but not a 3 minor... not atm anyways. im open minded if something does come up with it tho

[flint arch]

that one exotic AR

[atomic turtle]

beagle burger

[flint arch]

irregular

moment

[hexed steppe]

i dont think you could hit 20%, maybe 16%-17%. idk if youll be considered threat in a team when shooting spitwads tho.

[atomic turtle]

It would be 12% from all minors on a high end, 1% from Emeperor's, 1% from Belstone, 1.5% from Golan, 2% from Gila, and what else? There's Foundry but that needs 3p. I think that's it for Armor Regen as %. But there is the flat boost which can be 29,550...

I kind of want to play with an all Armor Regen build, ngl. Just to see how stupid it is, lmao.

[hexed steppe]

you wouldnt get gila

[atomic turtle]

How so?

[hexed steppe]

3pc, you still need the mask

[atomic turtle]

Actually true, damn.

[grizzled loom]

best backfire build?

[solar sable]

best is subjective

[hexed steppe]

ts backfire apparently

[grizzled loom]

best damage while also providing haz pro

[hexed steppe]

👆

[smoky latch]

It's a pain to keep the stacks up with that lol

[solar sable]

hazpro is irrelevant for backfire

[hexed steppe]

you dont need the hazpro with backfire. youll become immune in a couple bleeds or if you maintain the same stack level

[solar sable]

I use this for backfire solo play

no hazpro

[mortal jay]

hey, this is my main build that i use for clearing out my content. however, i do feel as if i often struggle on heroic. (not necessarily with survival but with damage) im wondering if im doing something wrong or if i need to change anything. hmu if you have any tips that i could use.

[solar sable]

swap bag for strikers and, do you have coyotes/exodus/overdogs?

[serene hare]

Strained still the best talent for M1928?

[mortal jay]

i dont have overdogs but i have the other two

[solar sable]

put exodus

[flint arch]

they're just 2 steps away from GC and Vigilance

[solar sable]

this is spreading just like mortarganda

[flint arch]

my PVGCganda is better 😎

[mortal jay]

alr im gonna test it and see if i enjoy it

[next jetty]

hi im new to this sever! pleasure to find yall..... i played the f*** out of d1 back in the day... just got back into d2 i beat the d.c. campaign im lvl 40 now and need to work towards a build...what should i do... i have all the dlcs and started working on some youtube striker build with st elmos ar... and curremtly on the warlords ny dlc.... what should i be working on?.... help a girl out pls 🙏

[atomic turtle]

Well, firstly, don't listen too much to YouTube guides. Something about Division 2 is cursed with bad build videos.

[flint arch]

first, stay away from YouTube, its full of clickbait

I would normally say iKia is one of the few rare gems but uh... he's gone to GTA 5 now 💀

[atomic turtle]

Instead, take a peek at this spreadsheet. It has a comprehensive amount of information including what comes next after reaching Lv. 40.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1380412817#gid=1380412817

[flint arch]

Anyway, Level 40 guide
Dammit you beat me to it

[atomic turtle]

Get fked

[flint arch]

Oh wait that's just the spreadsheet, I posted the level 40 guide

I win

[atomic turtle]

The Lv. 40 guide is also in there. I'm sure.

[flint arch]

I know but it's a direct link

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, fair.

[flint arch]

Hopefully I don't get shanked in a dark alleyway by @solar sable now

Here's also a detailed guide on Striker's Battlegear

[atomic turtle]

Corrupt, I'm making a disgusting Armor Regen Build, I hope you're ready for it when I'm done.

[flint arch]

[atomic turtle]

Shit bro, I need to farm so many Recon caches for a BP to Emperor's Guard tho. 💀

[flint arch]

just farm hounds

[atomic turtle]

I could but blegh...

[flint arch]

I got one with double armor regen lmao

[atomic turtle]

It's so monotonous and boring.

[flint arch]

And another one with CHC

[atomic turtle]

Fk it, I'll do that instead. Hopefully it doesn't take long.

[flint arch]

Now that I think about it

If you have three alts, you can get 4x the loot from one run of Krampus/Houndsman

[atomic turtle]

I don't, sadly.

[flint arch]

Just give all three of them a Quickstep and also spend a minimum of $39

wait I don't think the sale is on anymore

[atomic turtle]

Btw, I was lazy and had ChatGPT make the calculation, wanna guess what the likelihood is of getting an Investor with any of your chosen attributes?

[flint arch]

Hit me

[atomic turtle]

It's 0.1515% 💀 about 1 in 660 drops.

[flint arch]

An average of 660 exo components

Enough to 30 expertise 14 pieces of gear

[atomic turtle]

Aren't you excited?

[flint arch]

What an investment!

The fact it has the 4th attribute makes it a mega 🦄

[next jetty]

thanks for the link... im still confused cuz yea striker form what i understamd is a good starter build but im a girl lol woman gamer. someone send me a link of what the meta dps build is and ill grind for it... ill put in work... i realize this game has been updated so much that theres alot......i come from a diablo 4/destiny backgroud i just dont know what i should do or where to grind next... i dont want to waste my time

[flint arch]

striker is the meta and easiest to build

[flint arch]

@next jetty

[atomic turtle]

Well, if you just want a plain "shoot gun get kills" the easiest way to do it is with Striker's.

This is the best guide to follow on that: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

You can farm all the pieces necessary relatively quickly by running the Countdown game mode.

[flint arch]

There are other builds that can be just as viable, but we typically recommend people to make a boring-ass standard Striker build to get to grips with the game first before branching out to other builds and playstyles

[silver coral]

anyone know what rifle are use on these build?

the build got private

[solar sable]

ill check one sec

[ornate tendon]

I’d assume the 1886 rifle build that one shots but I was under the impression that was only able to be done with an event modifier.

[solar sable]

fixed

[silver coral]

tnx

[silver coral]

still on private

[solar sable]

here's the build, ill check that out

[silver coral]

thanks

[flint arch]

is the gift better than 5% weapon damage

[solar sable]

shhh 😂

[flint arch]

I saw it ran with both foxes and airaldi so you can use both rifles and MMR with it

[silver coral]

is relic better than sr1?

[solar sable]

okay, its fixed now

[flint arch]

perfect determined is harder to use than normal determined because it will disable itself constantly

[silver coral]

oh ic ic

[flint arch]

normal determined is completely broken

[subtle bluff]

Why don't we have players in HHF too? It's if not better for solo play.

[silver coral]

which sniper would you recommend with determined?

[flint arch]

don't use determined

[silver coral]

bruh

[subtle bluff]

Corrupt you're task is to go put on HHF and try out CP

[flint arch]

im kidding, white death is common

[flint arch]

Take my biology midterms for me then

[solar sable]

I'll add it too, thx for the suggestion

[flint arch]

[subtle bluff]

Ya afterwards.

[flint arch]

Actually I can probably try it a bit, but if I don't have it done within 15 minutes then I'm going to wait

[dapper glacier]

For a Mantis build, which gear set is better: Hotshot or Breaking Point? Right now, I’ve put together a quick Hotshot build that hits for 40 million on headshots. Can I get higher numbers with Breaking Point?

[subtle bluff]

Like it's easier to farm and keeps you up better.

[silver coral]

i wanna have some qol

[flint arch]

How do I build HHF anyway

[subtle bluff]

Hotshot but not by a crazy amount.

[silver coral]

il check that sniper

[flint arch]

@subtle bluff sir

Oh wait I checked

Found it

[subtle bluff]

Chainkiller and Vigilance. 4pc HF

[flint arch]

Now if my game doesn't crash during alt tabbing...

I'm lazy so I'm going to use the Harvest I just got with Determined

[silver coral]

which sniper would you recommend with determined thats more easier to use

[solar sable]

well, yes it is but it asks the player to git gud and new players dont like that

[atomic turtle]

Model 700 has the highest base weapon damage of all the MMRs. That's usually the best one to run for Determined.

[silver coral]

i dont think you can have determined on white death

[solar sable]

you can

[subtle bluff]

Remember my fav solo build is HHF DCH.

[silver coral]

ok thanks imma start farming that on CD

[solar sable]

Ill add both douglas bag and DCH variants

[silver coral]

i cant remember the stronghold that drops alot of white death

[solar sable]

roosevelt

[silver coral]

oh thanks

[flint arch]

Which control point is the easiest

[solar sable]

Sleeping Giant has very easy spawns

[subtle bluff]

Tbh shouldn't matter. That the point of the test for you to run.

[flint arch]

should I enable directives

[subtle bluff]

So tell us how hard or easy to do it.

[flint arch]

should I enable directives???

[solar sable]

all 5

[flint arch]

ok

quickly learned that my aim is too piss poor to use regulus

[atomic turtle]

@flint arch No good EG yet, but I found the ultimate MMR Backpack.

[flint arch]

[cerulean smelt]

he, it's perfect vigilience you can dismantle it for parts

[atomic turtle]

I could

[cerulean smelt]

😹

[atomic turtle]

And then record it and send it to people farming for it.

[cerulean smelt]

nah, you need to do that for overdogs and st elmo. that'd really make a lot cry 😹

[proper surge]

Im trying to get backfire build with huntes fury (+memento and ceska), what stat should I get on backfire? dmg to toc?

[solar sable]

always

@subtle bluff

[flint arch]

alright I've tried it, it's not easy

[solar sable]

ofc it isnt you dummy

[flint arch]

chow said it like it was 😭

[atomic turtle]

Yeah but Chow is a gamer

[solar sable]

but chow is chow, sir

[subtle bluff]

Vs other builds.

[flint arch]

I would have cleared it 5 times over with mantis already

[subtle bluff]

Hmmm...

[atomic turtle]

Chow, you should give me and Corrupt epic gamer builds where the two of us synergize.

[solar sable]

should i stay awake farming or should i go to sleep, wake up early and farm

[atomic turtle]

What time is it for you?

[solar sable]

3:26am

[atomic turtle]

It's 5:30 here. Stay awake.

[flint arch]

Man, the outcasts really need to pick their goddamned spawn and commit to it...

[solar sable]

well, shit.

[subtle bluff]

Tbh... I'm driving atm... Lpp

[atomic turtle]

Rushers?

[atomic turtle]

oof.

[flint arch]

And if the outcasts shoot me, soetimes they light me on fire and completely neuter me

Give me Ragers when

The last assault unit just had to light me on fire...

Ah yes, chungas.

[flint arch]

OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED

I was wondering why I was dealing so little headshot damage, until I found out

I FORGOT TO REROLL ALL OF MY ATTRIBUTES ON MY HF PIECES TO HSD

[solar sable]

🤣

[flint arch]

[atomic turtle]

FKIN MORON, LMFAO

[flint arch]

NO WONDER WHY IT WAS HELL TO USE

FML

[atomic turtle]

u mongol dude,

[flint arch]

Okay it's a lot easier when I can actually one-tap heads

[solar sable]

I need more builds...

[atomic turtle]

I would certainly hope so. 😂

[bright raptor]

this is how I got sold on the premium pass for this anniversary season

50 stash space and the Archer outfit is a very hard bargain to resist

[solar sable]

CORRUPT GIMME BUILD IDEAS

YOU TOO HYPERIEM

[subtle bluff]

So my "hmmm" wasn't wrong.

I've had a an idea for a new support build.........

[flint arch]

[atomic turtle]

Have fun.

[flint arch]

[keen sand]

looking for advice to further optimize etc.

• can i drop +1 skill teir since i get 1 from my specialization ??
• backpack has opportunistic, i could switch to Scorpio ? any other backpacks options ?
• any good pistols to farm or talents to look out for ??

[flint arch]

@subtle bluff my horrible hhf run

[atomic turtle]

mfw no Regulus.

[flint arch]

I am a useless sack of crap who can't aim for shit

[soft crane]

Alps summit backpack with Safeguard talent and replace specialization with the crossbow.

[flint arch]

FI Healer guide

[flint arch]

FI heals more than enough, Opportunistic has more utility for your team

[soft crane]

Peeps said my heal isnt enough for raids.

[flint arch]

Did you put repair skills

[soft crane]

Yeh

Gearmods are repair skills though I only have 2. The other is skill haste.

[keen sand]

love a spreadsheet thanks will ready through it now

[soft crane]

I literally went Iron Horse raiding 2 hours ago.

[keen sand]

-
think im sitting around
90% Haste
40% Repair

only on armour peices hoping thats about right

[soft crane]

Went with a bit of hiccup since there are a couple of new players who havent done raid.

[flint arch]

[soft crane]

[flint arch]

use the tank build

but rn because buildstation privated all previously public builds we have to wait until truck unprivates it

[bold forum]

come on , why do i deal 0 damage and struggle with heroic, when having full gear striker with good optimization ( about 80% optimized ) i always struggle because of the shield of the mob

[mint axle]

The catalyst has unchangeable attributes or they can drop differently?

[bold forum]

like mob with low amount of shield i destroy them , but when it come to tanky guys with shield and protection , i just cant

[fair dragon]

Tanky enemies usually have weakpoints that either distract them or cause them to be less effective at attacking you.

[flint arch]

i hope when they said full gear striker they didn't mean 6pc striker

[flint arch]

It's always those three

[bold forum]

nah so far i have the 4pc striker chest+back with kneepad leg named , but no overdogs glove yet

[flint arch]

striker chest is only better than Equalizer if you can maintain 150+ stacks, which is downright impossible on heroic

[sinful tinsel]

is st elmos the meta for assault rifles right now are things like the lexington and eagle bearer better

[bold forum]

yeah i'm switching overdogs/equalizer when i get overdogs

i got a perfect equalizer waiting

[flint arch]

you can shoot the legs of the shield users to stagger them
hyena tanks can have their ammo belt shot to force them to fix it, can be repeated to stunlock them
true sons tanks have a red box on their ass that can be shot to 1. break their armor, and 2. neuter them almost completely
outcast tanks, just run, or shoot him from a distance
black/white tusk tanks, shoot their ammo belt to stunlock them like hyena tanks. the red thing on their backpack will also stagger them

[flint arch]

st. elmos is not the best AR but it is comfy to use thanks to its crit stats, it being a reskinned police M4 in terms of RPM, accuracy, recoil and range, and also having a 70 round mag with a normal reload speed, and the occasional CC comes in handy
downside is that it has no damage talent and the CC is not consistent enough to rely on

also eagle bearer is not great

it's not unusuable, but you'd better be ready to get used to its weird recoil pattern and larger spread

[sinful tinsel]

fairs, is it still raid exclusive

[flint arch]

the damage reduction can sometimes come in handy

[fair dragon]

Elmos not the best? I beg your pardon

[flint arch]

kinda, but

1. next update will give you raid exotic BPs from black tusk retals (idk if it's from kill squads)
2. it comes in stretch goals caches as well as christmas

[flint arch]

i like st. elmos too but i deal more damage with my lex

[sinful tinsel]

fairs, wonder if they will add black tusk control points for the retal

[flint arch]

i don't think they will

[fair dragon]

Sure, but you also run out of ammo quicker

[flint arch]

yeah that is true

I am a weird guy who likes the measured talent

[fair dragon]

In this economy? Ammo efficiency > raw DPS

[flint arch]

also sometimes i like to run ouro so no st. elmos

[sinful tinsel]

is the lexington still obtainable

[flint arch]

no

i will now say that lex is only 3.8% better than police m4

[lone glacier]

3.8 is 3.8

[flint arch]

i need mah damage

[sinful tinsel]

true

cant believe i finally possess these

[subtle bluff]

I was mainly saying for 1886 with that but.. Sure.

[strong cave]

And da quickstep 🤑

[flint arch]

goddammit

[sinful tinsel]

init man i feel so special when i hop into a countdown and just fly infront of everyone

[strong cave]

It's sooooo good. Super sonic speed!

[subtle bluff]

And kind play it like you would a MMR.

[sinful tinsel]

init you dont realise how convenient it is

[flint arch]

aren't you supposed to run up to the enemies with HF

[willow sigil]

im done, right? this build is as good as its going to get minus expertise and shd?

[subtle bluff]

Yes but that the point you don't have to.

With the amount of dmg.

When they do get close then it's game on.

[flint arch]

Wait so I'm supposed to use HHF (in this context) more like a longer range rifle build and not fail to copy dien's gameplay???

[flint arch]

ditch Rock n' Roll for an SMG, i recommend SMG-9 with Unwavering
but yeah that's basically it

Rock n' Roll is only used for Striker Chest stacking

[willow sigil]

yeah i was using vector but im just trying to get prof up

[flint arch]

i see

[willow sigil]

i also got this from the campaign, how can i get this to level 40

[flint arch]

alright, now that you have standard striker, it's now time for you to replace that Equalizer with Sacrifice, and then finally use PVGC Striker

[willow sigil]

i need go farm sacrifice?

[flint arch]

you can't, free exo component
to get the capacitor again, go to summit and do challenges

[flint arch]

im joking

[willow sigil]

capac only drops from summit?

[flint arch]

standard striker w/ equalizer and overdogs is already the best you can get

[willow sigil]

im reading, i need capac, and 4pc umbra

[flint arch]

first drop is only from summit challenges. after that it enters the exotic loot pool

[flint arch]

that sounds like a pvp build

[willow sigil]

oh okie i go farm summit

[willow sigil]

yeah i have to go dip into pvp else theres nothing else to do, seems like any other alt build i farm is just going to be worse than striker so theres really no point

[manic bough]

Hello again! I really wanna make Heartbreaker working BUT I struggle to get it done. For now the following worked best:

• Bluescreen
• Nightwatcher Mask
• Overdogs
• Rest Heartbreaker
• Reviver Hive+Scanner Pulse

Does anyone have any input to that?

[flint arch]

Heartbreaker Guide

[manic bough]

Ngl,the laser pointer is straight hot trash. I cant begin to count the amount of times that thing didnt work.

[flint arch]

By the way, Heartbreaker is bugged right now, the only reliable way to stack is with an ACS-12 w/ LLP

[willow sigil]

how do i do these summit challenges? i can only have 2 active at a time. so when i complete them do i need to go back to lobby and then select 2 different ones?

[flint arch]

no you can just select new ones once you completed them in the map

[willow sigil]

and the difficulty doesnt matter?

[flint arch]

nope

i used this HB build briefly, then put it in my stash forever because it felt so crap to play and often it just felt like I was playing jank striker with a vigilance backpack

[manic bough]

how so? using the scanner pulse works fine, its the LLP thats bugged

[flint arch]

Some weapons will refuse to provide HB stacks even on pulsed enemies

[manic bough]

Ok so in summary,its not worth going through all the trouble and just play something else

[flint arch]

It works, but I personally would just rather go for Striker, because if you want to do damage with HB, you need to reroll all the cores to red, and that means the bonus armor will not help your survivability all that much, and also leaves you more susecptible to losing Vigilance

Also you get zero innate armor on kill because you're not running Gunner so

And if you lose all of your bonus armor, the only way to get any more is to wait for stacks to decay and then regain those lost stacks, which takes an excruciatingly long time during a gunfight

[willow sigil]

is there a way to corner the ai so that they dont just roll out of grenade range?

[buoyant perch]

Grenade range gear. Some types of nades also have bigger range.

[sinful tinsel]

is the bluescreen any good?

[misty walrus]

dismantle it

[willow sigil]

ninjabike always rolls one of each core attribute with no secondary?

[misty walrus]

its a trial version, u should get one in summit challenge

[willow sigil]

yeah im doing it now

[fickle sparrow]

with neg dillema amd bl;uescreen for the chest piece should i go UA equaliser for a lil more ROF or grupo for even more crit damage?...im already at 60 crit chance with 123.4 crit damage

[flint arch]

equalizer

[flint arch]

ninjabike, memento and harrier pride will do this, yes

now throw away the ninjabike, it's talent is a trap and not actually that useful

[willow sigil]

and its just in the gen loot pool i can open caches for it?

[flint arch]

yes

[willow sigil]

no i need it, it gives me 4pc umbra 3 pc ua

[flint arch]

are you running a PVP build or something

[willow sigil]

yeah apparently its the secret sauce to this build

[flint arch]

Oh, it's PVP, then it's okay

[willow sigil]

i dun make the rules i just play the game

[fickle sparrow]

also iv been using optimist on my lexington for what seems forever...or flatline for my closer build but whats regarded as best overall talenmt for a lexington?

[flint arch]

Ninjabike bag will always be the worse option in any PVE build because you cannot make up for the lost backpack talent with any number of stats

I don't play PVP aside from having ganked a few people in the DZ , but it seems that this isn't as significant so it's used there

[flint arch]

Killer for solo, Measured in groups

[willow sigil]

yeah from what ive been reading, it looks for pvp all you care about is whatever gearset you are using, and then raw stats

[flint arch]

yeah

The only time I see backpack talents being used, it's always something related to survivability like adrenaline rush

PVP builds are basically nigh unrecognizable compared to PVE

[willow sigil]

theres also this chest, i dunno the name of it, but when shield breaks it gives 90% shield back, im trying to see how i can incorporate that into my build. i dont know how important 4pc umbra actually is

[flint arch]

I'm not sure

If you want help with PVP builds you should go to #td2-pvp-discussions

[fickle sparrow]

@willow sigil zero f is the chest piece but you can put unbreakable talent on any other chest

[flint arch]

PVP people usually only lurk there and not in this channel

[shy willow]

Very

On umbra the chest is a non negotiable

[willow sigil]

oh i see

i guess we dont run unbreakable then

[shy willow]

Not on umbra no

Very popular with builds where you can slot it

[willow sigil]

oh i messed up, these 5 summit challenges need to be done in 1 run no floor resets

[gaunt chasm]

doing countdown 4 days to not get overdogs just to drop them from a random checkpoint out of the supply room

[hot trellis]

Yooooo

I was I had a question about a gun we were talking about in a build the other day

[lone glacier]

Which one?

[flint arch]

I can't wait for this convo to just turn into both of them pinging each other 12 hours apart

[lone glacier]

[hot trellis]

That’s what seems to be happening here huh

[languid wasp]

@flint arch any guide for heartbreaker build? with coyote mask or momento D:

[lone glacier]

Heartbreaker Guide

[hot trellis]

Yo bulls is there a current way to farm for quickstep I don’t have the bounties and just come back from a year hideous

[lone glacier]

See if someone's hosting it in LFG, or ask if someone can host it in there. Only way currently

[hot trellis]

Damn wack

[hazy steeple]

It's about 90% of all LFG's right now, but the devs know it's popular, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's back sooner than later.

[willow sigil]

you have to run hb with blues. i tried running red, and its no good, its just a worse striker. if you want hb to feel like hb i had more fun with blue

[hot trellis]

Ngl I just hate people 😂😂

[languid wasp]

Thanks alot

[lone glacier]

HB is also apparently currently bugged as you can only stack currently by blasting someone with an ACS-12 in the face with LLP @languid wasp

[languid wasp]

bugged?

[hot trellis]

Well they won’t have a face after an acs-12 😂

[hazy steeple]

As someone who's mostly solo'd for the last 7 years: no comment.

[languid wasp]

Wait, so I can't stack with other choice of weapons?

[lone glacier]

Apparently don't have HB to test it. But its what corrupt said

[languid wasp]

I do have one but its messy, I see the stacks and bonus armor.

I didn't notice about damage increase tho

[hot trellis]

So either suck it up and deal with people or wait it out till they move the way it drops that’s TOUGH

[lone glacier]

I'd just suck it up if you want it honestly. It ain't that bad

[hazy steeple]

Once you get it, you will see what all the hype is about. Running without it feels just sooooooo sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

Countdown is a game of "everyone who doesn't have it gets left behind".

[flint arch]

Quickstep is the reason I will never finish leveling up my level 11 character

[hot trellis]

Ik 😭 I just wanna be fast asf boiii

[silver coral]

rifle build doesnt need CHC?

[flint arch]

I tried to cheat the system by borrowing someone's Houndsman bounty but it only drops with a minimum level of 30

[hazy steeple]

Don't get me wrong, I like the slower pace of not having it.
but if you do need it, you need it.

[rare bobcat]

whats more common for tinkerer LMG, AR, or SHTGN?

[hot trellis]

I’m running a hf set rn so I could use it ngl

[lone glacier]

I just farmed 4 Quicksteps for all my characters with swap speed on it

[hazy steeple]

Double LMG's are a lot of fun, OD+Tinkerer+LMG's is my go to support build these days.

Actually that reminds me, I need to prep my Tink LMG for Expertise 30. Ta.

[languid wasp]

That hits the picture perfectly.

[lone glacier]

Ugh I still need to do Master Manhunts for the exotics..

[rare bobcat]

Atm I have an all RED core LMG Tinkerer.. should I swap a couple Blue core for a buffer?

[hazy steeple]

Nah go all red, your job as an OD Tink is to take potshots and let the Strikers players run into bullets.

Just remember: skills that proc status also count for OD's ammo.

Foam/Banshee Pulse is a personal favourite combo.

[lone glacier]

Why You Should Run 6 Red Cores 👈

[rare bobcat]

Thanks, I'll make that build and try it!!

[hazy steeple]

There's a guide for it in the spreadsheet, it'll help a lot with the weird complexities it has.

[rare bobcat]

Thanks for this.

[flint arch]

I should really change it to "How to Survive With 6 Red Cores" and move the first section to the bottom

Even though I made some edits it still has some snark I accidentally left over from my sleep deprived benders

[lone glacier]

Foundry Bulwark NBB intensifies

[flint arch]

🤢

Holy shit, this server's going to be the reason why I fail my Biology midterms tomorrow...

[hot trellis]

Well ngl that was quick found someone 😂😂

[lone glacier]

I'll just let Rivens ban you till tomorrow then

or rather, timeout

[hazy steeple]

Hey just ask nicely, call it self-care.

[lone glacier]

See @flint arch

[flint arch]

No

[hazy steeple]

@flint arch I got ya, just gimme 5-10 days for the paperwork to clear.

[flint arch]

[hot trellis]

Aye 🫵🏻 ran a hound man didn’t get it bro dropped it for me I might hate people a lil less now

[lone glacier]

Why couldn't this have been CHC instead smh

[flint arch]

rip

[rare bobcat]

Nahhh you know you wanted that MAX Stability role😆

[lone glacier]

Good thing I have a shitload of exo comps

[rare bobcat]

What was this role on if I may ask?

[lone glacier]

Bluescreen

[rare bobcat]

That does blow....

[manic bough]

Genuine question: what does pvgc striker mean?

[hazy steeple]

Perfect Vigilance Glass Cannon Striker.
it's not great shorthand, let's be honest.

[silver coral]

does determined and perfect head hunter works?

[hazy steeple]

dphh
sorry, even messier.

[flint arch]

[hexed steppe]

Its just hh. We assume 90% are running determined and ruining themselves

[hazy steeple]

Primed Victorian Gothic Child.

[lone glacier]

I swear CHC doesn't exist for me for reconfigs

[flint arch]

Make your sacrifices to Lootcifer and try again

[hexed steppe]

Its all that bragging about components

[flint arch]

Though try rerolling Investor in a few days

[hexed steppe]

Rng humbles

[lone glacier]

I'll just get more exo comps

[unkempt terrace]

hi can i ask a skill build here that using the turret and striker drone 🙂

[manic bough]

So on LMGs you want CHC instead of CHD?

[lone glacier]

yes

LMGs = CHC
Rest = Dttooc

[flint arch]

turret and drone build guide

[unkempt terrace]

thank you 🙂

[prime depot]

I've been away from the game for years, and I love explosive seeker mines. My current build revolves around Acota's, 2pc Hana-U, 2pc China Light with Skilled chest, Wyv holster and a Spike AR, and I'm getting numbers as shown with my mines. Yet Challenging feels a lot harder than it was those many years ago. Is this build no longer in fashion? Is Hard Wired really the only way to go with skill builds these days?

[flint arch]

seekers are not exactly optimal

there's this seeker build from localdeck, but considering your SHD level I think you would be better off starting simple with a Striker build

Striker guide (very boring, I know)
this level 40 guide for good measure

the gear spreadsheet

[silver coral]

can this build one shot purple or still red? on heroic?

[hexed steppe]

For seekers, yeah. Hw is the optimal way.
For turret/drone refactor is really good.
For mortar or oxi youll go highend.

[flint arch]

pretty sure you need some headhunter stacks but it will even one-shot elites

just gotta shoot some reds first

[silver coral]

so still red

cause im using this build and i cant 1 shot purple

[flint arch]

you first headshot a red to get headhunter stacks, and then you can start one-shotting everyone

[hexed steppe]

Depends on what you start with i think

Determined is nerfing your damage a little

[silver coral]

is 1887 better than tac?

[hexed steppe]

Try opening with the streamlined whitedeath

[silver coral]

headshot kill with white death stacks on determined even tho its on another weapon talent?

[hexed steppe]

Youll still need to get an actual headshot with your 1886, but youll actually have a hh stack if you kill with whitedeath first

Some start with nemesis too, its fairly normal. What's become way too normalized is relying on determined to carry a build and then wondering why first shots with it suck

I use basically the same build

[silver coral]

mine is hotshot tho

[hexed steppe]

What you posted above that🤦‍♂️

[silver coral]

is your mask and holster hasbro?

[silent storm]

Determined carries this build and it is wicked #td2-build-advice message

[hexed steppe]

No just colorblind mode

[silver coral]

time to farm breaking then

[hexed steppe]

You can run busy bee exo pistol since no other exotic weapons and you can use that to prestack some damage. Each mark is a 20% amp once you swap weapons, up to 200%amp

[silent storm]

Busy Bee is tedious though

[hexed steppe]

2 quick marks is stronger than perfect glass

[silver coral]

1887 has no scope?

[hexed steppe]

No

[silver coral]

bruh

[vernal wing]

What’s the point of Elmo’s?

[hexed steppe]

Shtf

[flint arch]

my conspiracy theory is that habsburg was a plot by the devs to troll us, just like 3pc lengmo

[hexed steppe]

Elmo is a laser and can take advantage of all the hsd/handling on the build. It can still melt and is a solid backup on hh setups

[flint arch]

never knew that

well, the laser part I knew at least

[hexed steppe]

I used to always have it on the regular hotshot setup for the same reason

[vernal wing]

Just seems not useful with HH

Like Ouroborus would be better imo

[flint arch]

you're not headshotting with ouros at range

[hexed steppe]

You would need to try it. I personally wouldnt use it on the breaking setup, but one really isnt coming off determined unless shtf. Technically itll reproc hh too since its not gonna stray from the head with all that handling

[silent storm]

Dogs mostly

[hexed steppe]

Can't 1shot dogs

[fringe ravine]

Been having a ton of fun with 4 piece hunters fury, memento and running lady death.

Where do the hf blue prints drop ?

[hot trellis]

Hey guys I’m running an hf set with Scorpio can I get some recommendations on good fast firing smgs really used to using chatterbox

Or anything you guys would think hits good in general

[smoky latch]

Dark Winter

Converted SMG-9 with Killer

[molten lodge]

Ninjabikebag

[hot trellis]

Currently using dark winter 🫡

[flint arch]

🤢

[bright raptor]

Any MP5 with Killer or Fast Hands, Unwavering if you're feeling fancy

[hot trellis]

I’m using memento 😂

[flint arch]

Acceptable

[hot trellis]

Memento a zero Fs chest and the rest is hf

[smoky latch]

Should run a damage talent on your chest

(P)Unbreakable is good for PvP but not for PvE

[silver coral]

whats a good DPS for big al tipping or striker set?

[smoky latch]

Either

[lone glacier]

Both work

[silent storm]

TS beastmode Big Al build #td2-build-advice message

[sinful tinsel]

Is the bluescreen any good?

Dropped in open world for me before

[flint arch]

good CC but kinda mid damage

[misty walrus]

is there any alternative for memento in coop?

[smoky latch]

Oof

[flint arch]

this is uh

[desert furnace]

is there any who can tell me wich is best capacitor build overrall?

[smoky latch]

There is no "best overall" for anything

[hot trellis]

What do you recommend

[smoky latch]

Certain weapons for certain builds can be BiS but that's it

[smoky latch]

What's your build again?

[hot trellis]

Hf memento Scorpio dark winter

[smoky latch]

Can you show a screenshot of your build?

[hot trellis]

But dark winter and Scorpio now

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1LWNSc5_z4qotUTAewQ_ROT8BtoY6Pe28wPfpsKcdpFQ/edit

Tanky version:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/16ZxO4KuROlB7fY-mPWeqj1T7Cg-fvPvgixsZyt7qkmQ/edit

[hot trellis]

Ofc you pull out the one chest piece I don’t got 😂😂

[tiny kernel]

can get overdogs from countdown? Or would it be faster to do summit

[misty walrus]

Hana U (Forced Multiplier bp, kinetic momentum chest) + 4 refractor pc, if u go for drone n turret build

[smoky latch]

Yes, possible

[desert furnace]

thanks !!!!!

[misty walrus]

HELP!!

I think I could replace the kneepad with an improvised version for another pte and use BA bp with a suitable talent, but no idea which one i should use

[smoky latch]

You should re-think the entire build, honestly. What are you using it for?

[misty walrus]

Tank n a bit of dmg

[smoky latch]

What are you using it for tho? Which activities?

The minimum you should change are chest and backpack - Hunter Killer and Matador

[tiny kernel]

It won’t let me donate for expertise

[hot trellis]

Is flatline better than killer? In this build or can I use either

[misty walrus]

Leg and master contents coop

[smoky latch]

Oof

You could consider a CC build to assist your team better. Tanks aren't useful, CC builds are

[misty walrus]

I got eclipse layout with 99% dr for countdown

[smoky latch]

Yeah that's a specialized version

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1lVjwORfXa0QtcAvLEYsopTUtEl4VArxUbEgmBKKSUWY/edit
This is great in legendary. Alternatively get a The Setup backpack with SE/SH so you can roll the core to Utility

[tiny kernel]

Would pesti be better then bluescreen?

[smoky latch]

You're asking only half a question. In what build?

[tiny kernel]

Uh ND

Sorry about that

[smoky latch]

No. Bluescreen would be the better pick

[tiny kernel]

I was only asking bc the tick dmg can go to marked enemies

[smoky latch]

No worries. The bigger picture (the build) is always relevent

[smoky latch]

The tick damage is applied to random enemies and not effected by ND

[tiny kernel]

Oh okayy

[smoky latch]

Neither by Striker's, FYI

[solar sable]

I already have his tank build lol
it's fun asf

[flint arch]

I have to farm the pieces once I get to play

[smoky latch]

You should change your name to "blue core enjoyer" then

[flint arch]

No, PVGC Striker is still life

[sinful tinsel]

Did hyena retal got the blueprint

[tiny kernel]

Ahh nice

Might try that

Just got st. Elmo’s out of exotic cacheee

[midnight cedar]

Nice what rolls did u get

[tiny kernel]

Imma max ar dmg I just ran out of money

[smoky latch]

Dont optimize it. If you have exotic components plus the other required materials, roll damage to target out of cover on it

Aka recalibrate it

[tiny kernel]

Oh alr

I do have max dttoc in my library

[smoky latch]

With exotics it works differently. Buy the Elmo reconfig blueprint from Inaya in the WH (lady next to crafting table) then re-roll it at the crafting table

[lone violet]

Liking HB set but hunters are still annoying as ever

[tiny kernel]

Ohhh okay

[lone violet]

Also finally got over dogs bp from retal

[olive cosmos]

what is the best sight for ars?

[onyx sage]

either of the crit chance ones

[crystal lantern]

anyway to make this build stronger?

[smoky latch]

use a bolt action mmr (white death for instance)

and maybe a rifle as secondary, but that's preference

[crystal lantern]

but none of them have as much headshot dmg as my mmr

[crystal lantern]

all of the mmrs i see have lower dmg other then white death

[warm lagoon]

Heart Breaker build? Should I use the set Backpack or a different Backpack?

Right now im using tinker mask with flatline and Streamline ARs
And Ceska Backpack with Vigilance
All crit chance and crit damage.
Is this optimal?

[solar sable]

ceska bag with Vigilance

[warm lagoon]

I feel like im taking damage too much so Vigilance isnt working

[solar sable]

you have to stack HB to get the bonus armor, Vigi doesn't go when you're getting shot at your bonus armor

[smoky latch]

Here is the entire sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/edit?gid=1390509440#gid=1390509440

[crystal lantern]

my nem does no dmg now

idk why it use to make a sound when it was fully charged but now it doesnt

[warm lagoon]

So as long as I have blue armor, Vigilance is working?

[solar sable]

yup

[onyx sage]

the nem does do damage, it still charges when you hold it

[warm lagoon]

Okay cool
Thank you

[smoky latch]

The indicator is bugged atm. The shot still charges but you don't see it charging

[crystal lantern]

yea but it use to make

oh so how long am i holding it for ?

[onyx sage]

but either way you don't use nem the same way you use white death

[smoky latch]

As long as before

[crystal lantern]

yea i forgot was it 10 or 5 seconds

[onyx sage]

you use nem if you know you will have to crack chunga helmets or kill a tankier enemy without stacks

[smoky latch]

A few seconds roughly for max. charge

[onyx sage]

you use white death if you want faster kills from not having to charge

[normal shadow]

Or maybe Mantis?

Considering taking out White Death from the equation and go with 1886 + Mantis and using a Decoy.

[onyx sage]

mantis works well

[crystal lantern]

yea nem dmg just isnt it even with stacks its not hitting for very much

[smoky latch]

Nemesis is still doing the same amount of damage as usual

[crystal lantern]

on armored mobs

20mil

[teal heron]

ok i need help. Im wanting to build the exotic Hand pistol "Liberty". after watching YouTube videos that explained it on how to get it i did the steps but im missing a material caled the "Grip and Tags" that for some reason i cant get

[patent fossil]

Are you fully charging your shots?

[crystal lantern]

yea i think so but i cant check anymore

[patent fossil]

True, should be fixed soon though

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[crystal lantern]

if a few seconds is max charge its just not doing very much dmg

it use to just one shot armor parts when i used it a few years ago now it doesnt even do that

cant one shot boss also

[sinful tinsel]

any advice to help me do heroic retals on this build

[crystal lantern]

AA 12 shotgun for quick stack

everything looks fine tbh

[sinful tinsel]

more survivability wise

[strong cave]

Ehhhhhh even then that's not required. I'd say it's an issue regarding how to take fights

[smoky latch]

Clean build, works well in Retals

[vernal wing]

You just need to play slower. Use cover

[crystal lantern]

people hate to use cover in a cover base game

[strong cave]

Most people fail to realize that it's their combat decisions is what gives them a hard time

[sinful tinsel]

yeah i think im too used to playing countdowns where u just stand there and shoot at them

[strong cave]

I'm currently on my SHD 20 account. Oh how I miss my 19k levels and expertise... Everything shoots kittens rn

[crystal lantern]

burh nem has to be bugged or something

[smoky latch]

Wait until April 2nd

[crystal lantern]

no way manti and shroud deal more dmg

[strong cave]

Known bug. It's just a visual. You won't hear it charge but it still works

Hold trigger for about 2 seconds and you're primed to go

[crystal lantern]

yea it should still work but im testing it in the range and on mobs its dealing less them my handbasket shroud and mantis

[strong cave]

Is your global event on?

[crystal lantern]

nah

[strong cave]

It shouldn't be. My nemesis still works fine despite the visual bug

Build?

[crystal lantern]

how much are u hitting for?

[strong cave]

Well over 68 million

Crits I'm hitting 74m+

[crystal lantern]

hmm maybe theres something wrong with my build then

[strong cave]

Post it. Let's see

[normal shadow]

But does White Death work better?

[onyx sage]

depends on what you want

[strong cave]

Higher up front damage. model 700 has the highest ceiling

[onyx sage]

if you want to be able to peek in third person, white death is better

[crystal lantern]

yea all of the other exotics work better

[strong cave]

Looks fine but I'm seeing 2 entire empty mod slots

[crystal lantern]

yea i took them off cuz im trying crit now

[strong cave]

Attributes?

[crystal lantern]

instead of head shot
they are all headshots

[strong cave]

Yeah don't go crit. Stay headshot

[onyx sage]

most might not know but being able to peek third person lets you headglitch and shoot something uou wouldn't be able to shoot with first person scopes

[strong cave]

It's one or the other and on hotshot HSD is a must

[onyx sage]

that's why high end mmrs are sometimes run over things like mantis

[normal shadow]

I'd probably do that with the 1886.

[onyx sage]

the benefit of white death is you can put stability and handling mods to reach 100% stability, giving it no sway, while 1886 has 0 mod slots for that

[normal shadow]

There is also an argument for using White Death and Mantis but then I'd be really screwed if something gets too close.

[onyx sage]

that's the downside of most mmr builds imo. you can't really take on all ranges

[normal shadow]

Yep. Although 1886 would help with that.

[flint arch]

I've been using white death wrong this entire time

[crystal lantern]

just the white death with only the sniper 45 head shot mod on

why does missing a shot deal more dmg?

[strong cave]

typically when an enemy tries to rush me i just let them get close so I can foam em

sadly HH builds get rendered useless when you shoot a warhound or minitank and theres no other heads to shoot... and you have multiple dogs

[crystal lantern]

so with the shroud if i just hit head shots i deal 26.
but if i miss a shot and land the second shot it deal 48.

[strong cave]

shroud has never really been too consistent

[crystal lantern]

is it the passive?

yea its the passive i just put the gloves on and i can do it with other snipers now

@strong cave

if i put on the overdog gloves i can get it to work on other snipers like the nem

[sinful tinsel]

do u reckon heartbreaker instead of striker will help with survivability a lot

[smoky latch]

HB is not good. Go with Striker's

[copper yarrow]

What does that mean

[onyx sage]

you know that red dot that appears when you peek around a corner in third person when you're too close? just back away enough and that red dot disappears and you can shoot through that corner

[copper yarrow]

Damn that's interesting

[onyx sage]

legit strats you will not find anywhere else

[copper yarrow]

How did you find it out

[sinful tinsel]

i just have problems with staying alive but ig i will git gud instead

[smoky latch]

Yeah, practice. Everyone's been there

[onyx sage]

a lot of people, mostly pvp players, found it out before me. most third person shooter games will have this quirk and deal with it in one way or another

[strong cave]

thats the amp damage is why

[strong cave]

can confirm I knew this was a thing because of pvp. it carried over into pve for me

in the gears of war community we call this "right hand advantage"

its harder to left peek than to right peek because of how the cameras work in 3rd person

[fickle sparrow]

im determined to make an eagles bearer build work tonight...can anyone suggest a build for mostly solo play...tried bloodsucker but its not working out without a shield so im gonna go a shield and memento for starters.......does it synergise with any green sets or sgould i do mostly gold build?

[strong cave]

when i run eagle i typically run nimble holster with it. its really only good for solos or duos

[subtle bluff]

You’re pulling back on DPS for something that gives survival.

[strong cave]

^ that exactly

eagle is one of those guns you wanna dump truck damage with. or else you aint surviving shit

[subtle bluff]

Using stuff that give bonus armor is gonna negate Eagle Bears talent

[strong cave]

its also one of those guns you need to be speedy with as its got a 15s cooldown and the kill limit is 3 to negate all damage. without 3 kills youre basically good as dead

[subtle bluff]

Build crafting is making a build that synergizes with itself.

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff i know...i couldnt even clear a control point with all red/bloodsucker and i do a ton of control points i know my way around them (althrough not well enough apparantly) lol

[red bluff]

I don't know what you mean with making eb ''work''? It works really great. Full red 4p striker, overdogs, equalizer n call it a day

[lone glacier]

Foundry Bulwark with NBB surely works with EB

jk jk

[subtle bluff]

Bloodsucker is VERY over hyped talent.

[strong cave]

im surprised you didnt recommend aegis

[lone glacier]

I mean run Aces or True Patriot too

[strong cave]

im not innocent to trying that setup with the gun. I know somebody else who isnt either

its just.... bad. Stiker is a must striker is a must

[subtle bluff]

I will not say that is the worse thing but in a nicest way it’s trap due to people just not understanding it.

[subtle bluff]

I’d go as far as saying PGC would be the way to go but that’s a hold another story.

[strong cave]

To be fair, wouldn't taking glass still mean you're taking 60% more damage even with Eagle's talent proc'd? Would almost be a diminishing return to have glass and use Eagle

You'd be entirely dependent on getting those 3 kills and God forbid you swap off after getting shot 5 times. You'll be insta dead or health gated

[red bluff]

Not a bad idea 🙂

[strong cave]

Spitballing here mind you, I've never tried it with glass

[subtle bluff]

Ya Idk...

[subtle bluff]

Ditto hence another story.

[strong cave]

If I was on my main rn I'd genuinely try it

[subtle bluff]

But at that rate also BH says if you can hit HS that well you can just melt heads.

[strong cave]

Just to see if your advice here is viable or a bit diminishing. It sounds diminishing but then again this is division 2 were talking about here

Yk what, I'll add that to the list of things to do tomorrow. I'll report back with clips 💯

[rich cargo]

Impetus or waveform for skillbuild wich is better

[strong cave]

Impetus

[vernal wing]

Impetus and Forcemultiplier is the way.

[strong cave]

waveform is too inconsistent

glass cannon is also acceptable if you dont wanna use Impetus

waveform in a nutshell is like 2 kids fighting over whos turn it is to play on the xbox

when one gets their turn, the other starts crying for their turn again

[subtle bluff]

There was someone awhile ago that did the same challenge no cover heroic CP but used a EB to do.

[strong cave]

I feel like local knows this pain too personally

[hexed steppe]

depending on the skills, glass is the only option

[strong cave]

ive got Impetus on your mortar build and it hits pretty good

glass would be easier but i wanted an excuse to go impetus

[hexed steppe]

if they are not turret/drone then impetus is gonna be always half damage

[strong cave]

damn

[subtle bluff]

Amp x total skill dmg vs
total skill dmg + total skill dmg

[strong cave]

back to glass i go then-

[hexed steppe]

mortar pretty long lasting

[strong cave]

thats true, but heres my argument:

im 60% harder to kill (50 if normal)

😭

[hexed steppe]

i was looking for the new chest and realized ive slimmed down to only a few i actually use

+a few gearset

[strong cave]

the pain I feel not seeing at least ceska oblit...

we really did ceska oblit so dirty after equalizer hit

[hexed steppe]

ceska glass is all you need

[strong cave]

ill go back to glass when I stop playing tank

"to the windowwwwwwwwww, to the wall!"

[hexed steppe]

but yeah, a few drawbacks... your first cold shots are always going to be without buff, and waiting for it to stack once in combat.
plus the whole cooldown killing the stack. personally ive never been a fan of km, but it is on a good brand at least. too bad refactor isnt affected by skill repair because that would be a nice fit with turret drone

[strong cave]

yeah the first like 2 shots are basically cold like you said. still hits hard for what it hits for. at top end im not sure what damage im going to be doing as its not even optimized yet 😭

[hexed steppe]

time to go test and grind some proficiency on it

yes, ik im missing mod

why tf is there a traffic light on it 😂

[keen warren]

hello all I'm looking for a good build with armor regen, critical hit damage, and ammo capacity. I use dark winter and bluescreen and have the ninja bike backpack

[lone glacier]

Stop n Go

[subtle bluff]

What's your SHD at?

[keen warren]

86

[fickle sparrow]

@keen warren try negotiators dillema with bluescreen it has crit chance and damage bonuses....equaliser chest piece and coyote mask if you have..i roll all red personally but up to you if you want armour regan

[strong cave]

thats pretty damn cool tho

[subtle bluff]

Farm up your library and get the basics going then come back we can help with other builds.
In general builds with both armor and Regen don't really help out builds as much as you think.

[keen warren]

I dont have the coyote mask

[keen warren]

it would be best to do with more armor

[fickle sparrow]

@keen warren grupo mask would give you extra crit damage or ceska for more crit chance....whatever you prefer

[subtle bluff]

No it is not.

[subtle bluff]

Is your library farmed up?

[subtle bluff]

Plz wait a min. Let's see if he even had his baseline.

[fickle sparrow]

when usin chameleon is it best to go low on crit chance...like 45% or something and plough rolls into crit damage coz if you get headshots you ll get high crit anyway?

[subtle bluff]

Plz stop…. Body shots do more DPS than HS for Chameleon.

[fickle sparrow]

thats why im asking here to understand the weapon...no need to get gnarly over it

[subtle bluff]

First off him being on NBB would the first this to fix.

I’m not trying to keep it simple.

Oh wait you’re asking a question not trying to help.

My bad. Didn’t see the switching gears.

[fickle sparrow]

yeh lol

[subtle bluff]

For CHC build wise for Chameleon you still want to hit 50% CHC

Because when the buff isn’t up it’ll sucks too much.

[fickle sparrow]

ok ty il go 50 instead of the usual 60 as my style of playn is naturally to try headshot but i do understand body shots are still good to go

[subtle bluff]

But then ya you want to proc chest first it’s big amount more DPS than the Head one.

90 WD (iirc) is nothing small to cough at.

[sinful tinsel]

finally did it guys

[strong cave]

if chow sounds like hes going to pop a blood vessel, hes not. hes just a very thorough person and wants to make sure people understand

[fickle sparrow]

yeh i seen it high weapon damage....the talent sounds amazing and its been gathering dust in my stash im just tryin to figure how to play it

[strong cave]

good shit 💯 noticing how easy it is when playing slower and using full body cover?

[sinful tinsel]

yeah, last time i was taking cover in a way where i could still see all enemies so i just got lasered as soon as i popped up

[subtle bluff]

HF with it.

No joke is probably one of the better synergy combo out there.

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff HF? soz im not fully up to speed on my div2 abbreviations

[subtle bluff]

The unfortunate part is the gun talents like chameleon UI is bugged out so you can’t see what you have proc or not.

[subtle bluff]

Hunter Fury

[fickle sparrow]

im sure it ll be obvious once you say it 😀

dayum and it was...hunters fury why didnt i get that haha

[subtle bluff]

I’m the lazy but not lazy typer..

[fickle sparrow]

my issue with hunters fury or any high push style of play is there always 1 enemy half a mile away with a pistol that shoots me in the back lol

[subtle bluff]

Ya that’s a thing.

[strong cave]

cant make this stuff up fr

all the attributes are crit chance btw

[subtle bluff]

“BUT I HAVE A MINI LMG”

[strong cave]

chow, youre dead wrong here man...

"it works for me"

enough said, let the man cook. it works for him

[sinful tinsel]

is it better to have crit chance or damage as attributes

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers i will have a look

[fickle sparrow]

can chameleon reconfigure to dtooc? i tried before and never got it...i wanna know before i go wasting exotic parts lol

ok il try again

wow got it god rolled 1st go lmao ty

[willow sigil]

when i do retals, do the cps i capture in there give the same bps as cps in the overworld?

[sinful tinsel]

how does dtooc compare to damage to armour

[subtle bluff]

Keeping just simple 10 vs 6

Not everything has armor.
Most things aren’t in cover starting.

[sinful tinsel]

yeah thats fair

[fickle sparrow]

@sinful tinsel i dont know the maths behind it i was just told to get dtooc on everything...common sense tells me it ll apply to every enemy (whos out of cover) wither it has armour or not where as damage to armour will only apply to armour so it makes sense that its better.....i think

[sinful tinsel]

yeah i was just thinking to be economical with reconfiguration but i have enough exotic components

can you get it on st elmos?

[fickle sparrow]

@sinful tinsel yup i have it so can confirm

[sinful tinsel]

ok cheers

[strong cave]

as a low level, itll be hard to stack up both. can personally confirm on a new account

[sinful tinsel]

yeah, ill put it off for now

my damage is good enough

got dtooc after ~20 recalibrations 🥀

[strong cave]

i got it after 1 lol

the goal with this account is to take it straight to DZ and farm for raid exos

i also plan on leveling up from like 50 ish to 1000 strictly doing dz as well

[sinful tinsel]

fairs what exos you trying to get

[strong cave]

next on my list is memento backpack. MAYBE if im lucky i can find double crit ceska with unbreakable to roll for blue

[sinful tinsel]

only raid one i know is eagle bearer

[strong cave]

ive played them all (theres 2)

[keen warren]

its a fair amount

[subtle bluff]

Follow the guide i pointed out

[sinful tinsel]

do legendary enemies have more health than heroic ones or just dmg

bro why are white tusk so op 😢

[mint bone]

for an all blue let me farm the dz pls striker what chest would yall recommend?

bp is memento,but not sure if i should take everyday carrier or smth like that

[smoky latch]

It's not meant to be a cakewalk lol

[subtle bluff]

A lot in both.

[sinful tinsel]

yeah i realised that

[subtle bluff]

What's the end goal?

[mint bone]

Not getting jumped by John Rogue and his friend. So memento and striker in blue since nobody should attack that right after having cleared a landmark.

Dont wanna lose another rav