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[cerulean smelt]

🤔 no tardigrade for support? 😹

[smoky latch]

Your team will probably hate you using Exodus gloves. But it's OK to use here

[flint arch]

iirc perfect vanguard is better

[violet thunder]

figured it gives me a chance to get to cover and plate if I do get armor broken. not super set on the gloves but I like it for the time being

[cerulean smelt]

oh i know. thinking in terms of trying to reset tardigrade is a pain 😹

[strong cave]

Use this. Please. Don't take what you have

This has Leggo/Master clears under it's belt when played with a coordinated group. You NEED to be in front of enemies faces and pulling aggro. You have to be swift

[flint arch]

Exodus is more used as a less painful Unbreakable on DPS builds, it's a good training wheel for people starting out on learning how to position and not get hit as a glass cannon

[strong cave]

It's also extremely good when you're carrying an entire team of four by yourself and every enemy in the battlefield is targeting you

[violet thunder]

that makes sense

[cerulean smelt]

@violet thunder mind you, i don't think you need to have those exact pieces unless it's named, but at least have the non-named pieces in your build. like you already have 2 gila, you can see if you can get a gila backpack instead of holster or gloves as Truck sent as a picture

[violet thunder]

of course, ideally I would like the named bag for perfect galvanized, ran a few countdowns for it earlier this week and didnt get a single one so I gave up and went for another brand set that had more than a single named item I was looking for

[smoky latch]

I've seen that before

Helped doomz the other day farming for that backpack

[strong cave]

Chances are he's farming my build. It's a really damn good tank build that I've spent a lot of time crafting and tweaking to perfection. This is about as good as you can get for this kind of setup. You have nearly four on demand procs on that build to help your teammates out. If you can't proc anything, stop playing tank and go back to DPS LOL

[smoky latch]

I've ran sth similar a while back. This build makes sense

[cerulean smelt]

eh, i'd skip the perfect version. it's only 10% more bonus armor and 10 meters edit: also on a brand piece that doesn't give you more armor

[strong cave]

Kestrel had a clip of it but it was posted in cool cids club. I left that place

[violet thunder]

yeah the brand bonus not being armor is also something I was thinking about

[strong cave]

Perfect galvanized is pointless as it gives you maybe 10 extra % for status effects which only apply to skills, not Scorpio. You're better off taking a normal galvanized bag. Plus electrique is hard to get to drop what you want

Getting both perfect talents to drop will nerf your Regen no matter how you build it. As a tank, surviving is everything.

And that extra 10% means nothing if you aren't at 2.2m armor since 90% of 2.2m is about 1.9m ~ 2m armor shared with the team. As opposed to only sharing 1.5m ~ 1.6m because you traded up Regen for perfect talents/unicorns

[violet thunder]

makes sense, I really appreciate it

[smoky latch]

Plus electrique is hard to get to drop what you want

That Uzina backpack is worse to get I find, lol

[strong cave]

I got you 🙏 have yet to see anyone run this type of build

[strong cave]

You can literally craft it that's the funny part

[flint arch]

CHC and CHD

[strong cave]

As long as you have the exact same count of pieces and attributes, the way you piece it together doesn't matter

[smoky latch]

That's just my last resort. Only thing I keep trying to craft over and over is a PS chest with crits and GC

[violet thunder]

I was in the process of trying to build something very similar but was struggling to get the galvanized and there was some other main component I was missing from the build that I did find so I stopped. plus my scorpio roll is terrible and I have not gotten lucky with it at all

[strong cave]

Believe it or not I get 60k Regen passively, plus I have 2.2m armor

[flint arch]

[violet thunder]

makes sense

[strong cave]

Run a group with me once and you'll see how beautiful the setup is in the right hands

[smoky latch]

That's right, we talking tank builds right now

[strong cave]

I take major pride in that build

[flint arch]

Prototype screwed us up so badly that we're willing to accept tanks now

[strong cave]

If I didn't think it would be a waste of my resources, I would dead-ass prototype that build

[flint arch]

[cerulean smelt]

hey. 50% more armor x 6 would be more bonus armors 😹

[strong cave]

Do not forget the passive regen that I get with it too

If I get 3 extra cores technically, my passive regen goes up too. So it only makes me that much harder to kill

[cerulean smelt]

but i don't know if your buld has any unicorns where you had to change the core so i couldn't say honestly

[strong cave]

OOOOO and the crit attributes will be even higher .and nope I never changed a single core

It was the easiest build to farm for except that goddamn chest piece.... It refused to drop for a few days

[cerulean smelt]

i'll try the impossible. make this build but use the new exotic mask next season 😹

imagine a mask, armor core, armor regen, crit chance and damage 😹 but being mobile (no need to stand in green goo) 😹

[light grove]

Perfect vanguard is the AMAZING for close quarters. Not just for armor sharing but for that shield immunity at the beginning 🔥 . You can run less blues if you can pull more armor regen out of your behind via memento but catharsis is amazing too with full core blue and some crit.

[smoky latch]

Btw what has ridden you to pick an AKM?

[strong cave]

Tell me, how you gonna get kills with zero damage? Memento requires you to pick trophies up and taking less blues makes this build redundant. Swap to DPS at that rate

[strong cave]

I chose sustained DPS for this one. When I need to help the team DPS a boss target that I can't push, I'll swap to my AKM and mag dump. If it aggros me, I will just Regen the damage and catharsis will give me more damage. The caveat is my skills need to be completely refreshed and not on cooldown in order to get Streamlined

It's one of those things that has a niche use case since you'll be maining Scorpio the whole time

[smoky latch]

I'd pick the Lud, I get your point tho. Was just curious about that specific AR

[versed summit]

or AUG at least

[strong cave]

yeah at the time i didnt have lud. I do now tho so im likely gonna toss that on the build

honestly im probably gonna expertise this bad boy to 30

[smoky latch]

I just recreated it earlier. Solid. My version a while back had Badger Tuff instead of Uzina I think and I used Perfect Galvanize

Wasn't happy so I scrapped it

Your combo makes more sense

[strong cave]

i chose uzina over Badger and the named backpack because uzina gives me more armor, which allows me to give teammates too. it also boosts MY regen which allows me to stay up more. i almost went with Emp guard kneepads but decided against it because it would buff only me and not my teammates (they get less armor)

lemme actually break it down real quick, why not

[bold forum]

is it working to put ongoing directive build with a bullet king ?

no reload , just spam and get ammo back

[versed summit]

no. you only get 100 rounds

[bold forum]

100 round refunded for 100 round used , 100 round special , sounds fair

[strong cave]

(ignore the fact theres differing talents, its just there as a stat placeholder to calculate armor/regen)

so if you decide to go Murakami, you lose out on 1 useful attribute for an extra 1 percent. not bad, but in the world of crits, youre starving yourself by doing so. also, notice how much less armor I have. Sure, some stuff isnt maxed out or expertised on this setup im posting right now. It just goes to show that it will only benefit you, and not your teammates having that extra regen.

With P Vanguard (50%) and Galvanized (40%), youre sharing 90% of your armor with your team. Lets do some quick math.

1,969,386 * .9 = 1,772,447.4 armor shared with the team.

now, if you take my setup, it becomes this-

2,111,062 * .9 = 1,899,955.8 armor for the team

was a no brainer ditching Murakami for Uzina Getica since it only benefited me

the more i expertise the build, the better for me and the team it gets

[smoky latch]

Yup

I usually have a PfE loadout saved but I will keep this one for now as well

[strong cave]

if I were to go PFE, id do the bare basic 2 piece Golan and rest improvised with regen + hazpro and pfe

i just dont like that build because its the equivalent of a walking decoy that does nothing... at least mine helps the team and does some damage to at least kill reds/purples... elites too if needed. just takes a mag and a half to kill 1 if theyre on the tankier side.. but thats the cool part. theyll get the damage bonus too from scorpio looool

[smoky latch]

Catharsis, BT Intimidate chest, Belstone AdRush backpack and 3x improv. I might juggle stuff around because the 1% regen from Belstone is useless

[strong cave]

youd be better off going 2 golan and use hunter killer chest with adrush backpack

rest improv/catharsis

[smoky latch]

Yeah would work with Scorpio too

No wait, the debuff goes by pallet

[strong cave]

yup, thats the idea with it. sadly golan's 1pc bonus wont apply to scorpio. but youll get 1.5% regen

[smoky latch]

I'll have to try at some point

[strong cave]

ive personally never tried the PFE version as yk... tanking in div is the worst thing anyone can do. I made my build to directly challenge that idea and somehow it just works

[cerulean smelt]

we think alike. saw his post earlier and i'm like 🤔 "hmm, i should make a build of it, but go the new exotic mask when we get it and see how that fares compared to catharsis"

[junior lagoon]

i spent a fortune to do this

[delicate field]

How would I make a hybrid build between tank and dps? Would that work well together?

[cerulean smelt]

think this is what you're asking @strong cave can explain more if you need it 😹
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[ruby lichen]

behold, my BMX with training wheels

any criticisms are welcomed

[cerulean smelt]

so pvp?

[ruby lichen]

pve

i have yet to try pvp with this build, are you saying it's viable in there too?

[cerulean smelt]

you got ninja bag, which is usually a pvp build of some sort. pve there's better choices

[ruby lichen]

i guess i do have a habit of making builds that are one fits all and end up fits none in the end

[cerulean smelt]

i got a build similar to that without ninja but a pain to farm 😹

[ruby lichen]

this ninjabag schematic fell out of the sky for me from riker retaliations, lucky me

[junior lagoon]

Is "The Courier" used in any build?

[shy willow]

Eclipse protocol

[junior lagoon]

with which attributes?

[shy willow]

Status effects/skill haste

[cerulean smelt]

status effect 1st then think skill haste 2nd? can go skill damage too i suppose but if you're not doing fire sticky/fire chem then damage wouldn't do much for you

[junior lagoon]

so not used in headshot builds

[shy willow]

Yeah if you're doing fire ep bag beats everything else

[shy willow]

Not at all yeah

[junior lagoon]

and blue or redcore in eclipse protocol?

[shy willow]

No

All yellow

[cerulean smelt]

you do red or blue, your status effects from skills plummets

[junior lagoon]

ok

[vernal wing]

Headshot builds are either a gear set bag or vigilance/The Gift

[flint arch]

this BMX is rather wonky

[ruby lichen]

that's what the training wheels are for

[light grove]

With a shotgun to the face of enemies… I can still earn trophies even in legendary.

[flint arch]

with assault GE you can

[light grove]

Ah.

Alright, my bad, didn’t see that I needed a global modifier to do what I’d already been doing for years, thanks for clarifying that.

[opal glade]

Straight up went full red, ofc struggling with survivability
As i cant take no shield with a LMG setup
Any ideas what to do add/change despite adding blue cores?

The moment theres more then something like 3-4 enemies im getting supressed myself - any form of sustain to aim for prologned time out of cover?

[vernal wing]

Harrier Pride 🙈

[solar sable]

you gotta play more strategically, you can't just pick a random spot

you have to take cover on a position that gives you advantage over the enemy by having a full FOV and know what options you have to run away to. Getting to know your game better is carrying Decoy and using it in overwhelming situations

honestly, I wouldn't run TS chest nor Nimble

[coral reef]

change the holster for Exodus gloves and watch your problem being totally solved.

and put on some Fox Prayer's kneepads

And you dont need the chest talent really

[solar sable]

no

[opal glade]

contractors gloves > foxes
in this case cause LMG build

[opal glade]

Yea raw dogging it like i did with heartbreaker+shield+memento in solo has made me a bit cocky - but its a bit of a breath of fresh air to actually play a cover shooter again with TS set^^

So far this build was no problem in Heroic Countdown in group if people took some heat for me my damage was insane and also solved the problem when everything is dying faster then it can shoot back^^

Solo content i gotta adjust something indeed

[sour prawn]

On my Umbra build I’m using the sheriff and an smg. I have chc attributes on some of my gear thats wasted on the smg but gets sheriff to 49%. Should I change the attributes to chd so I’m not wasting chc on the smg or should i leave everything as it is?

[opal glade]

Whats your main weapon tho?
If you change more to chd the sherrif drops even lower in chc which is not good cause 49% already is 11% missing.
Do you maybe have some chc mods on the smg you could change for chd or something usefull?

Otherwise you could also try to change the Sheriff with the Diamondback which goes hard with Umbra - it doesnt need chc at all so you could focus your build around the chc on the smg.

[sour prawn]

The smg is my main but it’s got unwavering so I’m swapping between them. The smg has no chc mods on it, most of that is coming from its core attribute

Tho I didn’t consider diamondback, I’ll have to try that

[smoky latch]

You can keep the improv pieces, it's just that I think the 1% armor regen could be used better.

Or keep Belstone and add two pieces Golan

Idk yet

[flint arch]

I got the same thing lmao

[grand girder]

lol same roll nice

[flint arch]

in engrish

time to decon it

[junior lagoon]

just joking. let me know how you decide

[smoky latch]

I mean you can run whatever you like. Don't have to change anything.

[onyx sage]

toss away the hotshot backpack and use airaldi backpack with vigilance

hotshot 4p is not really important for damage

if you want even more damage use overdogs instead of exodus

[naive viper]

ok thanks!

[flat cave]

what is a decent build for the Memento backpack?

[junior lagoon]

sure right now yes but if you come up with a better version i prefer use it

[flat cave]

what build would you use Memento backpack with?

[smoky latch]

Striker's

[drifting fiber]

for an smg striker build would it be better to use overdogs or coyote's mask? since the engagement distance is a lot shorter compared to ar or rifle

[flat cave]

anything specific for the striker's build with Memento?? like weapons, skills, etc

Coyote's Mask is good for team play

[smoky latch]

Overdogs since more damage

But with HF for instance you wouldn't need them

[opal glade]

I always say that if you pair Strikers with Memento you can just play a Heartbreaker with Memento. Cause the synergy is way better because heartbreaker doesnt need its Backpack as much as Striker does.

Strikers Backpack talent is straight up pure damage increase, you can rather swap out the Chest piece. Whereas Heartbreaker only gets extra Bonus armor from its backpack.
In practice both sets play 99% the same.

[warm scaffold]

hey guys how good is tipping the scales compared to striker?

[opal glade]

I just made a build today and damage wise it completely shreds.
It plays a bit different tho because without shield you need to play way more cover dependent.

[warm scaffold]

so it does more damage? cus i felt the same

[smoky latch]

When fully stacked it does high damage, yes

[harsh orbit]

I use Tipping scales with an LMG and lately, Big Al' as it rocks with a big mag. Striker is easier to use on AR's.
Get the Big Al, Use a Petrov or groupo chest, go with overdogs and you'll love it. ofc there are other variations, this is just mine currently.

[warm scaffold]

now thing is, i wanna use it on iron horse, but i have no raid experience so that's also why im asking

[opal glade]

I think Contractors Gloves on TS is so hard to pass on

The synergy is perfect

[warm scaffold]

true it is

im guessing striker would be better for the raid

[opal glade]

i wish there were more cool exotic chest pieces

[smoky latch]

Yeah usually

This is a decent version tho:
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1ugLqss8pj3jv-dSE1KUIHI1HGMfkCVBYb0LGpEiLXUY/edit

[smoky latch]

I's say is this a little anti-synergetic

That gear set builds stacks while firing, the holster increases RoF but it doesn't help stacking faster

[opal glade]

yea on paper this is all cool but im not a big fan of overdogs
when suddently the red guy is in supressed fire not coming out
or the medkit dropped behind some cover you cant reach
that just sucks

It opens up the chest for the equalizer one - which is a great pick ill admit

[opal glade]

But bigAl does stack faster which is nice

[smoky latch]

The TS chest is totally not needed. It increases max stacks only, similar to the Striker's chest

With Equalizer or a GC chest you will deal higher damage

[opal glade]

Yea i know - i think both builds a pretty valid having their own ups and downs

[smoky latch]

I'm not comparing it to Striker's, just talking about your TS setup and how you could improve it

[opal glade]

yea i know - but i dont like the Overdogs mechanic so much
And overdogs are the only real good exotic besides centurio

[smoky latch]

How about no exotic?

No exotic or named item is required in any build nor are they always recommended for a build

[opal glade]

Probably depends whats to gain and to lose

playing no exotic in my TS setup would leave me open to change the chest

[smoky latch]

You should change the chest regardless

This is all the chest does. And with how fast the stacks decay, you gain nothing for most content

[flint arch]

TS chest has a similar pitfall with Striker chest but way worse

You can get 200 stacks in like 5 seconds with Rock 'n Roll

You need to keep firing for an extremely long time to get 75 TS stacks

And in the end your damage increase will be minor compared to the time and ammo you've wasted

Not to mention how often do you actually get to stay still and fire your gun for an extended period of time in this game?

[flint arch]

also overdogs doesn't work like that, it's based on enemy archetypes, not veterancy

a named assault enemy will still give me the overdogs buff because they're of the assault archetype, overdogs does not care if they're named or not

[subtle bluff]

The worse part is how fast you can lose all your stacks with TS vs Strikers.
Just show the chart that’s in the guide that’s easier to just shows why TS chest is bad.

[sinful tinsel]

are overdogs the best exotic for dps striker builds with st elmos (yes im basic)

[smoky latch]

Widely accepted as BiS for most content

[misty walrus]

Any suggestion for 1886 without hh on active?

[drifting fiber]

if i have 610% chd should i be looking for more chd or more weapon damage?

[sinful tinsel]

yeah im rlly struggling getting them done so many countdowns im gonna throw up if i ever see a power plant again

[flint arch]

how the hell are you getting 610%

[smoky latch]

Can try Rifleman or Ranger maybe

[drifting fiber]

checking the stats when max tipping scales stacks

[smoky latch]

Farm Hyena Retaliations for their crafting blueprint

[sinful tinsel]

yeah ive lost hope in countdowns

[subtle bluff]

Choose the right ad to shoot first.

[misty walrus]

Mine is tinkerer, 2 zwi (hh+vigilance), & 2 bp

[smoky latch]

But did you buy exotic caches from the Countdown vendor too?

[sinful tinsel]

yeah just spammed me with random holsters

[flint arch]

TS gives you 350% w/ backpack. assuming an additional 150% CHD, where's the extra 110% coming from

are you using backfire with TS or something

[subtle bluff]

Maybe the base build?

I think I made a post some where showing how much different in a leggo the chest makes.

[flint arch]

Okay, you're probably using TS chest too

[drifting fiber]

pack & chest, and maybe the strained talent got counted in too

[flint arch]

Refer to this graph, TS chest is not exactly an improvement over a HE chest

[subtle bluff]

More CHD than what TS w/BP is gonna give you DR on your value. You want other numbers instead.

[drifting fiber]

well this is my build and i mostly play solo so i can keep scales at max at every engagement if i want to

[onyx sage]

yeah i would just take ongoing if i wanna run rifles ngl

cba to wait 15 secs to stack

[subtle bluff]

Don’t exp past 12 unless you know that’s what you’re gonna be sticking with.

[flint arch]

foxes' appears everywhere

[smoky latch]

Fox's aren't nearly used as much as they used to, nowadays

[subtle bluff]

Still are because YouTubers….

[solar sable]

Chow should become a ytber

[smoky latch]

Vtuber

[subtle bluff]

Not enough time. I’m only a decent player

[smoky latch]

With angry bird avatar

[flint arch]

Fill the void iKia left behind

[smoky latch]

Yeah that will be noticeable

[subtle bluff]

I’m on the boat with iKia in a way.. Idk if I’ll be doing too much with this stuff.

[vernal wing]

Did ikia actually quit?

[smoky latch]

I'll see how it develops. It's good to see they reacted to some of the critical feedback. Now I'll wait to see if we actually get recalibration and adjusted tinkering or not

[smoky latch]

For now, yeah

[flint arch]

Carry me in incursion before you quit sir

[subtle bluff]

I’ll be around for incursion still since the prototypes don’t work there. If they do I’ll probably then out out.

[drifting fiber]

well i still haven't gotten the answer to if i should be aiming for more chd or raw damage, using strained or boomerang on my main rifle

[flint arch]

They don't and won't work, devs confirmed it

are you using rifle with TS???

[subtle bluff]

Yup they posted there build above

[flint arch]

wha

so the answer is neither, use a LMG or get a build tailored towards rifles

[smoky latch]

Use Killer instead of Strained

[subtle bluff]

Anything other than more CHD

[drifting fiber]

i don't see why not i play solo at my pace and i can keep up the stacks like if i want

[flint arch]

okay then, as long you're aware
go for more weapon damage, as Chow said, more CHD gives diminishing returns

[subtle bluff]

Just gonna leave this here.

[sinful tinsel]

does anyone know the chance for overdogs bp on challenging retal

[smoky latch]

It's RNG

[vernal wing]

It’s like .25%
The good news is you’re guaranteed an exotic blueprint nearly every run you complete, so you’ll get it within like 10-15

[subtle bluff]

Not exactly..

[flint arch]

wrong, exotic blueprints are not guaranteed

[opal glade]

I know, i worded it badly, it still holds true that those cases can happen, like i said a medikit dropped somewhere behind cover you dont instantly see, then some shotgunner rushing you - cases like this you completely loose out on the damage.
It works better in teams tho but especially in solo content i hate that mechanic cause i need to prioritize targets by their threat and not by their role.

Overdogs can be a papertiger in this regard, pretty unreliable at times

[flint arch]

Kill squads on challenging and Heroic are close to guaranteed, but completion is only 50% even on Heroic

[vernal wing]

That’s why I said nearly. I got one 75% of the runs out of 40

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message
The only answer you can get

[flint arch]

saying "nearly" is a bit misleading, but i guess we all have our personal definition of what "nearly" means

[hazy steeple]

Nothing wrong with being hopeful.

[vernal wing]

The point is either way it’s not a hard or long grind. And you could get the gloves to actually drop while farming for the blueprint

[smoky latch]

You don't have to focus on the talent at all. You will just get a nice damage boost if you do

[sinful tinsel]

cheers thats a bit better than .25 💀

[lone violet]

for fox prayer knee pads to i wanna replace CHD for headshot?

[subtle bluff]

sometimes but it makes up rather quickly. You have to remember the amount overdogs gives can’t be beat even with lets says 1/2 the uptime on 1/2 the ads. 15% amp is still a lot.

[smoky latch]

This is the old version btw

[subtle bluff]

Context?

[smoky latch]

Make it Health for no reason :p

[lone violet]

remember the 1886 set up i was telling you about

[flint arch]

it's still more consistent than an option i know of

[vernal wing]

I did this on my M1A and Dodge City builds

[subtle bluff]

It’s 2 RNG’s roll. One for getting BP to drop then another for the right one but! You cannot drop the same BP twice.

[subtle bluff]

If it’s DPS build Crit, if it’s HSD build then HSD. Keeping it simple

[flint arch]

Do you hate having to notice enemy archetypes? Do you really need to kill that goddamned drone operator in the back who's going to wipe your entire team if you don't shoot them in the next 3 seconds and your damage output is insufficient thanks to the talent effect saying "no"?
Introducing PVGC Striker, where you no longer need to care about enemy archetypes. Instead, it deals less damage than standard Striker with Overdogs overall, is WAY harder to play, and your damage is even less consistent because of Vigilance!

[solar sable]

I ain't reading allat

[flint arch]

Alternatively you can just run a 2nd high-end piece or something

[flint arch]

i blame you for my obsession sir

[onyx sage]

blah blah blah i'll just use my 5p foundry nbb build

[flint arch]

also I witnessed the utility a tank user could provide if they didn't just use Foundry Bulwark

[subtle bluff]

Also posted above with the TS chest comparison clips both are using overdogs.
Even for the solo hard content for me I never worry about if I am shooting is proc’ing overdogs. A good amount of time if it’s priority target it’s in the right tier anyways. Aka rusher and drones ops.

[flint arch]

[drifting fiber]

why a guerilla backpack though?

[smoky latch]

Nah, better

[subtle bluff]

CHC is the best value stats for DPS.

OD doesn’t have any stacks and it’s makes it much easier to play for solo imo.

[flint arch]

I can't find my "Classified D3-FNC" build image dammit

[opal glade]

Welp i tested it - swapped out the chest
While i get a bit more burst dps upfront my sustained damage is a good bit lower. Also the extra +25 stacks arent that hard to reach, and if they drop they drop from 75 stacks instead of 50 stacks - so the drop is hardly an argument because if they drop they will drop just the same. You could argue the chest gives me 25stacks buffer which also translates in more damage retention in times i cant hold my stacks up (striker in that regard is also way different because at higher stacks you even lose stacks double the rate so swapping out the chest makes way more sense here).
So i get that + the 20% fire rate from centurio, which is also a straight up damage multiplier.

I like that build more as i play only heroic anyway theres massive stuff to shoot and supress, doing CPs, Countdown, Retaliation i always find something to shoot at. And when someones supressed the stacks wont drop atall

[flint arch]

@solar sable it's just like that video from kestrel

[drifting fiber]

okay so i just did the math and this can reach a flat 60% should it remain there or should it be dropped to 54% for more chd?

[smoky latch]

What do you need high sustain damage for in solo heroic??

[flint arch]

im pretty sure burst damage is more valuable in heroic, because enemies die quickly in heroic anyway

[subtle bluff]

You’re not holding all of those stack from encounter to encounter. Unless you’re taking that effort to do so…

[opal glade]

Depends, the first enemies dies quickly,
As soon as i build up the stacks and have one enemy under supression i cant say i had problems maintaining the stacks with most content so the damage bursts even more than.

I have taken over CPs without really stopping to fire^^

[smoky latch]

:}

[subtle bluff]

100% but that also trigger fights to start so positioning can suck.

[smoky latch]

You're free to run whatever, we just chimed in to generally improve that build you posted above

[flint arch]

Hopefully my build station account doesn't get deleted

[subtle bluff]

If it works, it works. At least you tried the other way.
That’s why I did the reference clips above with TS Chest and w/o on harder content where you don’t have the convenience of what you would normally do but showcasing what the higher limits are.

[subtle bluff]

We’re working on search build function atm and rating.

[flint arch]

My saved builds are mostly just joke builds rn

except for PVGC Striker

[smoky latch]

Make sure the "thumbs down button" works

Thinking of NBB builds

[flint arch]

[subtle bluff]

We’re doing rating 1-5

[smoky latch]

Okay

[drifting fiber]

okay i think i'm going crazy the stats says i have 94.2% chd but my manual calcuation says i should only have 69.2%?

[vernal wing]

Global Event

[drifting fiber]

O

[flint arch]

i don't think the current GE affects your CHD, that's redline's fault usually

the GE just multiplies your damage by 3x

[drifting fiber]

i am working on that OD build rn the chd rn should be 17+12+11.9+8.3+20

[hazy steeple]

@drifting fiber Just making sure to check: double-check your CHC and make sure you aren't overcapping it. Any % above 60 is wasted.

[drifting fiber]

yeah i just don't have the credits to recalibrate rn

[hazy steeple]

Bounties are your friend for sure.

[fickle raptor]

Whats up, just picked it up on pc, had around 200 hours on ps5, got to start again, can anyone help me farm a decent build? Cheers! 🙂

[tulip charm]

countdown is your friend.

[lone glacier]

best friend even

[subtle bluff]

Where are you getting 17 CHD from?

[drifting fiber]

rifle innate

[subtle bluff]

Search "starter guide" go to the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub

[crimson spruce]

what's a decent target dps i should aim for in endgame?

[bright raptor]

specific numbers are hard to define since not everyone uses the same weapons

at least for PvE/raids/incursions you can't really go wrong with the red builds on the pinned The Spreadsheet 2

[subtle bluff]

Oh right.

[solar sable]

is that THE GRIM REAPER?!

[crimson spruce]

Maybe some data then. I am really not close to finishing these builds, but I have two variants that I just want to sanity check before I start investing serious time into My First Endgame Build™.

• (Hunter's Fury + Nightwatch)[https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwVgtKFgTFAMYFMS5aBcJzOFYBmNVGYjAFnFwVxrm1IYwPhaLcfTIDYwzqT2g0unwBOFlUZSMhesD7Th0QrzBdcADhgB2GFu2CRcLc3n4wlcerDbzbdNs65tWjee3j7wWKa2CgA]
• (Hunter's Fury + Hollow Man)[https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/MwFgtAjAbGBMeWGADCtqPq8gXAVjywkUUzIXIxxEPlXgiQmUMu2x0cjWLb45Cpe3fqJQ4oSGMWHRW7UTmAsw4CIIUKcsWAHZIxKAE5NlJcgAcJdUkIQTUYrqRnd1J1YtJdJsxAZMVnxAA]

Playstyle is to get Pulse for a sitrep, Quickstep into CQB range, burst down whatever targets hard, take cover, reload, and repeat. Weapon Handling instead of all-crit lets me cycle through this primary pattern faster with the Sheriff shotgun.

Shield for when I get caught out or need to distract a shield enemy so my teammate can take some headshots; for this reason it needs some durability. SMG is for longer range CQB.

[flint arch]

ninjabike 🤢

Hunter's Fury guide

[lone glacier]

Where's our resident nbb hater

[flint arch]

i am the resident nbb hater, i'm just loving pvgc striker more rn

Also show me your PVGC Striker

[lone glacier]

Let me finish my retal real quick

[flint arch]

Alr

[crimson spruce]

Striker i assume is the Striker set... what's the PVGC?

[flint arch]

Perfect Glass Cannon and Perfect Vigilance

[lone glacier]

^Thats basically what I got

[flint arch]

😩 as doomz once said, goat in progress

[solar sable]

If you ain't running any PVGC build you ain't have the right to brag!

[crimson spruce]

yeah, Vigilance absolutely won't work for me. i expect to get pinged for damage constantly in CQB.

Glass Cannon I could maybe do though

[lone glacier]

Next step is solo Legendary 😎

[flint arch]

[solar sable]

if corrupt can why cant everybody else?

[flint arch]

but i was doing it during redline and ambush sir

[lone glacier]

Solo'd Roosevelt with the basic Strikers earlier today

[solar sable]

shut 🤏🦆

[flint arch]

wait did dien use PVGC Striker in his solo leggo zoo run

[solar sable]

he always does

he mostly used Nego for Zoo*

[flint arch]

okay i checked, it was nego

But his solo master pact run used PVGC Striker

[lone glacier]

I'm NOT touching leggo zoo solo yet. I think I can handle Tidal, Capitol, Arena and Roosevelt solo

[fickle sparrow]

anyone help with a ongoing directive build pls?....il be going vile mask and bluescreen but getting different suggestions off youtube..chatgpt.....should i roll into crits or status effect? what skills help proc bluescreen better or do i just spray n pray? and what chest and backpack? the ongoing D or something else...ty

[flint arch]

youtube and chatgpt, two of the three horsemen of bad div 2 advice

Ongoing Directive guide

[fickle sparrow]

haha thats why i came here

[lone glacier]

You don't really run Vile for OD

Either Tinkerer or Overdogs

[solar sable]

or Coyote's

[lone glacier]

Or that, yeah.

[fickle sparrow]

i heard tuxedobandit off youtube did good stuff and he used vile...i like the idea of spreading effects too

[lone glacier]

If you like spreading stuff, maybe EP?

[solar sable]

if you're using Bluescreen with OD then just... go Rambo

[fickle sparrow]

i got an EP build which i love...im just trying to get agood bluescreen build

[lone glacier]

Then look at the OD Support one in the spreadsheet

[flint arch]

you can also use negotiator's with bluescreen for some nice synergy

[fickle sparrow]

il do the build posted above ty

[subtle bluff]

Bluescreen more supportly it's very mid as DPS weapon.

[fickle sparrow]

@subtle bluff yeh im not expecting big damage its more of a support build i want....i got plenty good dps builds like UA ninja striker and a crit monster with flatline/closer which was surprisingly good

[subtle bluff]

I mean all of those are about the same DPS in my eyes and are very much mid DPS builds.

When you're doing harder content you're gonna need better builds to value your build.

[solar sable]

ninjabike instantly takes the "good" part of a build

[tawny mesa]

Yep losing damage talents to that

[fickle sparrow]

@solar sable haha yeh iv heard that said😀 its not huge dps but i run it with 2 blue cores to get tier 4 shield total.....its more my allrounder build i use...still can top out at almost 1mill crit hits compared to a top dps at 1-2...1.3...the survivabilty/rate of fire/high mag size worth it i feel

[flint arch]

the 1 mill i feel like comes from a GE or overdrive

[tawny mesa]

If running striker you want the striker backpack

[flint arch]

ew striker backpack

[solar sable]

this guy

[flint arch]

the BiS is obviously The Gift

[fickle sparrow]

@flint archiv been using that for ages but funnily enough been using unstoppable force last few days and think il make my future builds with that instead...i get hit too much for the gift haha 😀

[lament aurora]

Am sick of running striker build for DPS can anyone recommend a fun build

[lone glacier]

PVGC Striker

[flint arch]

this person gets it

[fickle sparrow]

@lament aurora i was the same and made a crit monster....all gold with overdogs ...just try get as much crit chance n damage on a build as possible with closer chest and the gift or unstoppable force.....it actually hits better than my best striker i found...lots of choice weapon wise but i run a lexington with flatline and bakers dozen with technician spec

[lament aurora]

All red or you got some armour on there ?

[fickle sparrow]

@lament aurora all red il send pic off my phone in a sec....im at 57.3 crit chance and 167.9 crit damage

[flint arch]

high-end builds deal damage immediately with less mechanics but have a lower damage ceiling

they're not bad, but personally I find them sluggish to use

so I don't really use them

[fickle sparrow]

yeh but thats what i love,...there no stack waiting time...your straight into high damage

@lament aurora

[solar sable]

HE builds are often used in raids like Iron Horse but strats may have changed tbh

[hazy steeple]

3pc UA w/ overdogs+grupo+ceska vigi has been a real breath of fresh air as of late.

Equa+salvo for 2 of the UA, of course.

[hazy steeple]

all credits to prod

[flint arch]

that too

i personally like my PVGC

[hazy steeple]

shared pieces are nice, and i can use that chest+backpack on about 7 different builds.

the 106 round Elmo doesn't hurt either.

[fickle sparrow]

@hazy steeplewould fenris mask not give more damage with the 10 percent to assault rifles? or is 13 percent crit damage better?

[hazy steeple]

Nope, because it's not actually a 10% buff.

I'll let corrupt explain this one.

[fickle sparrow]

haha ok

[flint arch]

I don't know how to explain it really, but 2pc UA will give you 20% AR damage if you really want it

[hazy steeple]

Okay dw lol, I got this.

[flint arch]

All I remember is that we don't use Fenris anymore

[hazy steeple]

basically the <specific weapon damage> buffs from pieces are scaled off weapon damage, before the red cores are applied.
So on a full red setup, it's more like a 2-3% increase.

[flint arch]

where the hell was that image for damage calculation again

[flint arch]

thanks

[hazy steeple]

that picture looks like im going to get a virus if i enlarge it.

[fickle sparrow]

@hazy steepleoh god ok back to countdown i go for a grupo mask ..i have the rest of your build god rolled 😀

[flint arch]

so the SWD is additive with the red cores and all of your other sources of AWD and therefore has diminishing returns

[hazy steeple]

All credit to prod, but It is a genuinely fun time, just gotta keep stock of Overdogs+Obliterate.

[magic pilot]

It's my favorite high end build currently

[solar sable]

is it tho?

[hazy steeple]

When you get the loop right of Overdogs+Oblit, it honestly feels somehow faster than Striker.

[opal glade]

I ditched the BigAl for a Pestilence and found out ... if you play the centurio holster and switch to pistol instead of the second lmg you can stack both buffs on one lmg. So the pestilance can get the +50% magsize AND the +20% fire rate! That is so awesome 😮

[lone violet]

Question if I wanna go a pistol bulwark build how would I run it and is it usable for heroic and up

[hazy steeple]

I've been having a lot of fun with an iKia build using the Bulwark+Tempest, gets you a Tier 6 shield.
There's a link in the spreadsheet, in his own section of builds.

[flint arch]

just going to add that it will be usuable for heroic, and that's it. you're not bringing that thing to legendary or master

i mean you could, but it would probably take you a few hours

[lone violet]

Darn

[hazy steeple]

You could right now bring it to quite a lot, with the GE.
but it's more a for fun thing, it's true.

[flint arch]

i prefer basing my opinion on a build on whether it functions well on its own (or with some group buffs)

imo if a build relies on seasonal modifiers, GE or overdrives to be functional, the build is bad

that being said, not saying iKia's techtanks are bad, but they hit a hard ceiling

[hazy steeple]

I never said that the build requires a GE, just that it's obviously helped by it, being that it's a close range build that involves tanking shots.
I do think that it's fine for Heroic in a group, it can certainly hold its own in a fight, but no, you aren't the superstrikermetakiller of the team.

[flint arch]

probably didn't articulate myself well enough

but yeah what rivens said

Anyway I need more people to use hazpro foam in Countdown because istg apparently nobody ever has a build for that

[fickle sundial]

DPS players when yall play solo do you run full red or 2 blue?

[flint arch]

full red with a topping of PGC (+60% damage received) 😎

[onyx sage]

it depends on how good you are, nothing wrong with going blue, but going full red is fine

[lone violet]

Or st Elmo

[flint arch]

reminds me, i need to update my guide

[flint arch]

St. Elmo's CC effect is not consistent enough

[lone violet]

Real especially vs the hunters

[flint arch]

Iron Lung would be better for that purpose, half of the mag will always burn enemies

[lone violet]

I run iron lung with tipping and seeing hunters not do anything is mint

[subtle bluff]

I'll be making a guide for it later.

[flint arch]

I've been warming up (heh) to Iron Lung with how dien forced me to do zoo

wait i don't think i used iron lung that much there

[subtle bluff]

I love Iron Lung

[lone violet]

What you run with iron lung? Cause tipping has been goated for me

[flint arch]

Oh right, I used it during pact on master

[onyx sage]

striker works fine

[flint arch]

no, iron lung does 0 damage with any other striker variant, you need PVGC Striker /j

anyway yes what dien said

[onyx sage]

i've only really run it with striker, i did a solo tidal leg with tipping and i never want to do it again

[lone violet]

Idk why but I have the urge to use creeping death to spread the fire but it doesn’t last long

[onyx sage]

i just want stuff to die honestly

[lone violet]

Same

[flint arch]

you don't use iron lung for the fire status effect, that's eclipse protocol's job (and you don't use iron lung there either)

[lone violet]

So striker is king then vs tipping

[flint arch]

the fire is just useful to stop enemies from shooting and forcing that goddamned white tusk sniper to stand up from cover

[subtle bluff]

More or less.

[lone violet]

I might work on a striker set up either iron lung just gotta move some chest pieces and stuff

But I mostly play a skill build (minus on countdown) works wonders

[subtle bluff]

They do nearly the same DPS in the end of it all.

[lone violet]

But sometimes the AI gets me killed especially on retal

[onyx sage]

i love striker with iron lung in kelso master, i've tried just the normal lexi/elmo and it just doesn't cut it, iron lung was my favorite to use from then on if i don't get big dps checks like the pact

[lone violet]

I only done 2 manhunts and that was for blue screen and tinker mask

I haven’t done the others yet

[onyx sage]

yeah the other ones are really fun but also hard

[lone violet]

Like master difficulty hard?

[onyx sage]

yeah they're on master

[lone violet]

Oh I mean do they give any blueprints or something?

[onyx sage]

the pact master is a really big dps check on boss

they give their own exotics

[lone violet]

Oh it’s that mission I hate that’s one

Disable the rockets within a time

[onyx sage]

no that's not master

[flint arch]

that's just normal tidal

[hazy steeple]

And it's not the other-other Tidal Either, with Hornet.

[lone violet]

Birdie Quick fix looks strong for a raid setting

[onyx sage]

eh not really

[lone violet]

But what other exotic they can drop

[lone violet]

😭

Not even for a healer role?

[flint arch]

it's more something you quickly hotswap to when someone is down or dead

and also an "oh shit i'm carrying an idiot named corruptphoton in legendary zoo" thing

[hazy steeple]

Birdies is like Tardigrade was back in 2019 for Dark Hours.
boy that's a flashback.

[subtle bluff]

Raids have Rez kits so you can only Rez a few times. If people are going down in raids there's another issue at hand.

[lone glacier]

500 Gearscore.. World Tier 5... "Want to use this talent? Gotta have 3 reds and 1 blue core "

[flint arch]

the bad old days of gear 1.0

or so i'm told, i dunno i already forgot most of gear 1.0

[hazy steeple]

Can't get kicked if you solo everything that doesn't require more than 1 person.

[lone violet]

I miss doing raids but airport was annoying if people didn’t run emp jammer for the drones

[lone glacier]

I don't miss it even though I was running the BiS DPS build with pre nerf EB

Or at least my version of it, which kind of resembles PVGC Striker without the Striker

[lone violet]

I kinda wanna go for the regul

But seeing how it’s more of a modifier weapon I don’t wanna go for it

[flint arch]

PVGC

[lone violet]

So what do people run in raids now since it’s probably easier with the amount of gear we got now vs before

[flint arch]

a few people with specialized builds for specific roles and then the rest use striker for ad clearing i think

[lone violet]

No one uses skill build?

[flint arch]

and then there's a few bosses that can just be one-shotted

you can either murder buddy or lucy instantly and completely trivialize the fight

[lone violet]

Iron horse?

[lone glacier]

buddy and lucy are dark hours

[flint arch]

i recall seeing fieser getting instantly killed

[lone violet]

Like it how air port >black tusk

Iron horse> true sons and for some reason that have a big cannon ready to blow up the White House

[sinful tinsel]

obviously this build is not meant to be survivable at all, but i just get obliterated in retals and stuff and idk what to do

ive tried switching a few cores to blue but it hasnt done much

[lone violet]

I run OD or ND blue screen for retal

[lone glacier]

pvgc striker

[flint arch]

Striker guide
Also you need to learn how to position, prioritize enemies and a bunch of other stuff, you ideally need to run 6 red cores anyway once you reach higher difficulties

[sinful tinsel]

yeah its fine until like 1 grenade comes my way then its just chaos

[onyx sage]

wdym by modifier weapon?

[flint arch]

But you can use some blues if you want, just run a shield, the blue cores themselves don't do anything substantial

[flint arch]

so you make sure to shoot the grenadier first

[lone violet]

Like I saw a build using the regul but the person who was using it was in a world modifier

[sinful tinsel]

yeah just prioritise the annoying ones ig

[onyx sage]

you can use it just fine with no modifiers

[grizzled loom]

Take off the striker chest and use something with obliterate instead. You rarely reach max 200 stacks and even then you lose them fast

[sinful tinsel]

yeah i have the equalizer its just rolled absolutely awfully

[grizzled loom]

Use it

[sinful tinsel]

alr will do

[lone glacier]

just farm a different one while using it

[grizzled loom]

That’s still free +24% damage

[lone violet]

https://youtu.be/I4JPrz-a9nw?si=QwUroK3I3iAE-QsB this build (3 months ago)

[opal glade]

In my opinion full red striker is no fun to play solo open world or such things where many unexpected things can happen. Its good when you know the setup, where enemies spawn and in groups where someone can take the heat for you if you need to get down to heal or something. With such a squishy build you would also hug corners with your shield and play angles - its a very meticulous gameplay.

If you want more survivability and also be able to tank some hits and recover play a Heartbreaker+Memento build.

[sinful tinsel]

yeah think i used to play something with memento back in the day on xbox

[lone glacier]

6 red striker is the way to learn the game properly

[opal glade]

You can also reroll all the Heartbreaker pieces to red (they are default blue) but that takes a bit farming.

[opal glade]

Some people just wanna run around and have fun balls out

[lone glacier]

But you can do that with full red striker just fine?

[onyx sage]

this is a showcase on zoo legendary with no modifiers

you don't really expect completely objective analysis from most YTbers for this game, most of the speedrunners for this game aren't that popular

[buoyant perch]

HB stack is broken so red hb is just bad to play

[opal glade]

Nah, you always gotta be on your toes not to have some shotgunner push in your back, a explosive going down on your cover or something, 6red striker is unforgiving if you wanna chill

[lone glacier]

Minimap shows you where enemies are if you arent running directives

[opal glade]

Like i said, thats not my definition of balls out

[fair dragon]

Speedrunners would be more popular if they didn't abuse exploits smh

[onyx sage]

that's not what we're talking about sir

[fair dragon]

Oh

[opal glade]

What do you mean i dont understand?

[buoyant perch]

Some bullets don't build up HB stack

[flint arch]

the only reliable way to stack HB rn is an ACS-12 with LLP

[opal glade]

oh is this new? i never noticed

Yea i use stackbroker anyway most of the time to get the ball rollin

[flint arch]

which means you're going to have to blast someone in the face with it, and if you want to deal damage with HB, that means you're allergic to bullets

[opal glade]

I play 4r/2b + Memento
Atleast in heroic i just go around facetank everything while i pick up my stacks - its fun.

[flint arch]

I used it for like 15 minutes, often I just could not get HB stacks at all, and if I do get the opportunity to use an ACS-12 I would have all of my bonus armor stripped away by the enemy I just blasted

[lone violet]

I miss the days where explosions builds just clear rooms

Rip rolly Polly explosive

[flint arch]

And once I lose all of my bonus armor I have to wait an excurciatingly long time just to get it back, so I'm stuck playing jank Striker with a Vigilance backpack

[opal glade]

Dont you play a shield tho?

[flint arch]

At that point, why not just play PVGC Striker

with 6 reds, your shield is allergic to bullets too

[opal glade]

Thats how i do it

[lone violet]

Also rip that one mask that heals you when you get damaged

[buoyant perch]

Well, you said ALL hb pieces to red earlier

[flint arch]

It was just terrible to use and really sluggish, so the pieces now stay in my stash forever

[haughty shale]

Saw this on Reddit and had a good laugh

[flint arch]

i have so many questions

[lone violet]

Bro what abomination is this

[flint arch]

NBB with improv pieces lmao wtf

[lone violet]

Throw the whole account out

[opal glade]

Yea it works depending on the content, as i run much solo i prefer one blue core with my Memento, lets my get close more

[subtle bluff]

Go with Ceska instead of Fenris and you'll get some more DPS out of it

[haughty shale]

Its glorious. The more you look the worse it gets

[lone violet]

Nah you need to throw the whole account out bro 😭

[flint arch]

They had to craft all of those pieces and max them out

[subtle bluff]

We have a meme with this. @onyx sage where yours?

Toooo late...

[onyx sage]

it's literally me

[flint arch]

why

[onyx sage]

idk i don't hate fun

[flint arch]

but sir your nbb isn't even doing anything here

[subtle bluff]

I hate the game

[onyx sage]

actually i do, i hate u @tulip charm

[lone violet]

😭

[lone glacier]

game gib bighorn so I can leave summit forever

[lone violet]

No

Everyone suffers

[onyx sage]

exactly, normally our gear carries us but here, i'm carrying the backpack, because that's what humans do, we carry backpacks, not the way around.

thank you for coming to my ted talk

[flint arch]

i will no longer consider purchasing any resident evil game

[onyx sage]

your loss m8

[flint arch]

[lone glacier]

I suffered enough today

[haughty shale]

Like I said i found it Reddit. Not mine

[lone glacier]

Thanks for the Bighorn summit Time to try it with Strikers for no other reason but that I can

[flint arch]

a high-end build would work better im pretty sure

[lone glacier]

Got one that you could send over? I'll try both

Gotta reroll it though, doesnt have dttooc

[lone glacier]

PVGC we meet again

[flint arch]

indeed

[lone glacier]

Guess Ill need to grab the mask and kneepads, got everything else

God what a shit roll of AR damage on a otherwise good health and dttooc roll

[flint arch]

I heard BH for PVE is not that great because it's kinda inaccurate and you need to constantly hit headshots

[lone glacier]

Think my aim is decent enough to hit mostly headshots

[subtle bluff]

The issues is when things don't have heads with it.

for BH HSD builds

BH crit like above is great.

[lone glacier]

Yeah.. Im just open to trying things

[lone violet]

Diamond back is the rifle of all time

[surreal shell]

What material am I missing

[subtle bluff]

True Son iirc

[junior lagoon]

You can craft it if you have the bp

[sinful tinsel]

can you get overdogs from exotic caches?

[surreal shell]

I know but I'm trying remember what the name of this resource can't remember

[junior lagoon]

Tactical assessments i think

[lone glacier]

honestly, Striker BH aint even that bad

[junior lagoon]

They say so but i have never heard anyone getting it from them

[sinful tinsel]

yeah they just spam acostas go bag

[junior lagoon]

People get it from countdowns apparently

I got mine from anniversary caches

[gaunt chasm]

still trying to get mine

[junior lagoon]

Imho the best way is to get bp from retaliations

[gaunt chasm]

dropped exotic gloves 2x in a row in countdown.. both times exodus fml

[sinful tinsel]

just done a countdown a second ago, 2 exotic gloves dropped at the same time, bloody knuckles and exodus gloves

[gaunt chasm]

pain and suffering

[sinful tinsel]

then bought an exotic cache with countdown points just to get the vile mask 😢

[gaunt chasm]

i bought like 40 of them the last few days. never lucky to get overdogs

[sinful tinsel]

yeah init im convinced they dont exist and their just ai

[gaunt chasm]

we getting the division 3 before i get overdogs

[junior lagoon]

I say the same thing for catalyst mask

[strong cave]

Battle for Brooklyn exclusive. It's also extremely bad due to its distance limitation and the requirement to apply status effects which is harder to do with guns efficiently than most think

Especially within that distance limitation the mask demands too

[sinful tinsel]

tbf gonna try my luck and go in a few more countdowns think the rng gods are hinting at something with 2 exotics at the same time

[junior lagoon]

I have been farming the named bosses esp charlie but no luck

[strong cave]

Pretty sure you have to be within 20-25m of status effected enemies in order to get the benefits

[junior lagoon]

I was wondering why there are no builds with it

[strong cave]

That's because it only works within that distance and you have to apply status effects to get the bonuses from the mask. And it's per enemy that's status effected for a duration too

WAY too many requirements just to get status and damage. Run OD at that point with tinkerer

[subtle bluff]

Too much effort for lil pay back.

[strong cave]

It's like offering a kid 100 dollars and the kid gives you 5 dollars in return as a trade deal

[sinful tinsel]

might have to spam ubisoft support again for overdogs

[strong cave]

Speaking of Ubisoft support, everyone go check your emails. Division 2 just sent everyone an email about character customization

what weird timing, granted the PTS we just had... You think now is a good time to ask the community about character creation? 😵

[sinful tinsel]

what was wrong with the PTS?

i didnt play it

[lone glacier]

Prototype gear is a bit.. oogabooga

[strong cave]

A bit?

[lone glacier]

Understatement

[strong cave]

You got one half that hates it and the other half that loved how it was given to us

And then you have the third portion- those who don't want the same problems remade with the same recycled solutions added to fix the newly created problems that could've been avoided in the first place

[lone glacier]

Honestly, whatever the opinion of peeps like Chow is, is what mine is. Then again I'm still far out from prototype anyway

[strong cave]

iKia went and left this title. Borderline majority of what Chow knows is thru iKia. Almost all of us have him to thank

[subtle bluff]

#1484200964712829028 #patch-notes
id:browse if you can't see them.

[strong cave]

If iKia is leaving, that is a huuuge red flag

Seeing iKia on GTA broke my soul.

[lone glacier]

Yeah thats.. bad

[strong cave]

He's basically our build godfather. He's the reason why we know what is good and what's not. And if he's walking away because the game is becoming what he has tried to avoid, many others will follow suit. This game brings in players from all sorts of games. It can easily be left just as easy as people can arrive

[subtle bluff]

idk abut godfather...

[strong cave]

And even I'm unsure how much I'll be playing div 2 anymore

[strong cave]

To me that's basically what he is. I don't see anyone else doing extensive testing and maintaining spreadsheets as thoroughly as he does

Like, Everytime I saw him, he was always crunching numbers

[subtle bluff]

Numbers and Charts and breaking down everything very well yes.

[strong cave]

You don't really see anyone else doing it to his level tho is what I mean

[junior lagoon]

I did not get it

[strong cave]

Likely hasn't hit your inbox yet or some other reason idk about

[subtle bluff]

Again for numbers, charts and breakdowns yes.
Builds wise I could built and displayed that many builds. But I hate just displaying builds.

[strong cave]

Another good example of why I call him the godfather imo,

He's the only other one in the community that actually had the energy and desire to do so. Pretty much it was what he did 24/7. Eat/sleep/breathe division

No other creator that covers division goes as extensive as he does and at great lengths to make sure everyone understands too

[junior lagoon]

I had to re-roll big horn 9 times to get dtoc. Highest for me

[strong cave]

Not bad honestly. I remember when I had to re-roll my Scorpio for DTTOC. Took me over 70 tries

[magic pilot]

New loot system will be so fun

[strong cave]

Trust me man, I've got my scratch off tickets ready. Should I bet on red 7? Or black 3?

[magic pilot]

Gold gold gold gold gold

[strong cave]

🤑🤑🤑

[lone glacier]

17

[junior lagoon]

Could you remind me how to reroll sherif? I remember it did not have a bp

[strong cave]

You need Mosquito pistol. It's bugged

[junior lagoon]

I have mosquito but what do i do

[strong cave]

Coulda swore Inaya sells the blueprint

[junior lagoon]

Nope

[strong cave]

I never went for the shotgun as it felt pointless to get for me

Oooo, cool, infinite range shotgun. It I want no damage drop off range I'll just run HeadHunter and an MMR instead

[smoky latch]

Just recalibrate it while the Mosquito is in your inventory

[junior lagoon]

Ah inventory. I had it in my stash

[shy willow]

It hits suuuper hard compared to other semis

[olive cosmos]

can someone tell me what chem launcher this is someone linked me a build with it on

[smoky latch]

Fire Sticky

I think you unlock the Sticky by beating the Wallstreet mission in NYC

[shy willow]

You get the fire sticky by killing Conley

Explosive from Dragov

[smoky latch]

Oh right, thanks

[shy willow]

I keep mixing them up sometimes I haven't done new york in ages

[olive cosmos]

thanks

[olive cosmos]

what mission is that

[smoky latch]

Stranded Tanker

[olive cosmos]

does it have to be story version of the mission or just normal

[smoky latch]

Story should be fine

[lone violet]

diamond back fell off huh

[olive cosmos]

i dont know why the firesticky chem didnt drop in confused

[shy willow]

You loot it off Conley's body

Do you already have it or something

[olive cosmos]

i have firestarter from her but thats not the one the guy linked me

nvm im dumb

[smoky latch]

This is the fire sticky

[olive cosmos]

it's its a sticky bomb not as chem launcher

[smoky latch]

Yup

[craggy meadow]

Do you guys know what’s a good bulid for armor regen? By any chance

[smoky latch]

You asking for PvP builds?

[junior lagoon]

is there an lmg with a stability of 12 precent

[craggy meadow]

No mainly pve because I suck at surviving lol

[subtle bluff]

It's not good for PvE. In general bullets hurt too much and they have a lot of them.

Refactor would be a better way

[smoky latch]

Refactor build

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit?usp=drivesdk

Refactor gear set repairs your and your team's armor through skill damage

Turret and drone are the ideal skills for that

[craggy meadow]

Mhm okay I’m getting a lot of information lol

[smoky latch]

If you have any questions just ask

Oh I see, in the other channel

[craggy meadow]

Yeah I asked in the wrong chat twice my fault

[smoky latch]

Tank builds with armor regen in PvE don't deal much damage and are niche. The Refactor build is much more versatile

[craggy meadow]

and the armor set can drop, where lol sorry currently newish to this game

[subtle bluff]

what SHD are you?

[fickle sundial]

countdown game mode with targeted loot set to refactor

[subtle bluff]

slow down let me get there. LOL

[fickle sundial]

they will lead you

[craggy meadow]

I just turned level 40 lol 😂 like today I beat the campaign took me a very long time and I’m sure what you guys are talking about is also gonna take me a long time

[subtle bluff]

Lvl 40 starter guide

Start there. come back with question afterwards.

[fickle sundial]

yeah perfect guide

I kinda forgot this game had a recent boost in newplayers and player count

[atomic turtle]

@serene hare Alejandro go bbbrrrrrrrrr.

Granted, GE is gigabuffing all weapons at close range, but this shit slaps.

[serene hare]

Looking pretty fine.

[smoky latch]

Why you keep shooting the head? Also I recognize Marco's voice everywhere

[atomic turtle]

I was playing one of his videos, mb, lmao

[smoky latch]

All g lol

[atomic turtle]

Also, headshots are satisfying.

[smoky latch]

Ye but unrealistic

[atomic turtle]

Fair enough, but see, what you do is, you find someone you can bully into playing Eclipse Protocol. Then have them run Foam.

Now you're free to get up in enemies faces and have fun.

[smoky latch]

Watched his "The Division 2 - 5 Years Later" again recently

[atomic turtle]

His long form content is very nice. It's a shame the algorithm kind of fked him tho.

[smoky latch]

Always

[pale totem]

what are some things I can change?

[smoky latch]

Swapping chest and backpack

[pale totem]

to what?

[smoky latch]

1. Chest should be Equalizer
2. Striker's backpack and a UA holster or the Salvo holster

[molten lodge]

or run a ninja bike bag

[atomic turtle]

NBB

[subtle bluff]

NBB is never the way

[solar sable]

this has to be a joke

[smoky latch]

I doubt

[flint arch]

🤢

[smoky latch]

You're losing out on valuable damage with NBB

[solar sable]

but muh bonuses

[molten lodge]

i know ball

[flint arch]

from now on if anyone suggests using NBB i'm forcing them to use PVGC Striker for the next hundred in-game hours

[minor shadow]

are offensive skill builds viable in harder content (like legendary and master missions)

ive been wanting to try something other than healer and dps but i dont know if im putting pressure on the rest of the team by running that sort of build

[flint arch]

you can kinda use refactor as a support build, but otherwise skill builds are kinda chopped in legendary/master

[solar sable]

mortar and some skill support builds

[atomic turtle]

inb4 local shows up with his mortar clips.

[solar sable]

ol' man is probably sleeping rn

[atomic turtle]

It's him guys.

[solar sable]

block him

[smoky latch]

Why you play story mode?

[atomic turtle]

PO

[flint arch]

B.O.

[smoky latch]

Uh

[atomic turtle]

Prio Obj

[smoky latch]

Ye I know but I'm used to heroic

Didn't know that's a thing on story

I guess it makes sense in terms of farming exo comps

[atomic turtle]

Eeeuuuugggggggghhhhhhhh

🤢

[smoky latch]

Exo comp

[atomic turtle]

Exo comps from NBB should be considered dirty money.

[flint arch]

Delete the character, time to start over 🤢

[fleet gulch]

Do ya'll reckon this looks good to sit on until I get a better chest or a better exotic gear piece?

[smoky latch]

Looks good, next step could be farming for Overdogs & Equalizer

[atomic turtle]

Works perfectly fine but I'd swap out the chest for Equalizer. If you manage to get Overdogs, you can replace Coyote's.

That said, you're missing some SHD Lvls, so Ceska chest works fine until you max out CHC on the watch.

That's about all I can think of atm.

[smoky latch]

He's right

[fleet gulch]

@smoky latch @atomic turtle I do have an Overdogs, but TBH I'm not sure I understand why it'd be better than Coyote's.

[atomic turtle]

Because it offers amplified damage up to 30% which is very, very powerful compared to Coyotes.

Especially in solo when you're not even using the full potential of Coyote's in a group.

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message
Check this, you don't have to stick to Overdogs' talent but if you do, whether intentional or not, you will get a big damage boost

[atomic turtle]

All you need is solid target prioritization, really.

[fleet gulch]

But it applies first to the weenies right? The enemies that already naturally die the fastest.

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, so you're going to work your way through that ladder very quickly, and hit the biggies sooner.

And then they'll go down much faster, even.

It's annoying to remember the hierarchy, but it pays off, trust me.

You can also use Sacrifice instead of Equalizer for another 30% Amplified DMG, which will make you hit mega hard. But that has a steep learning curve from the increased DMG taken, and I don't recommend it unless you've developed some solid game sense already.

[fleet gulch]

So, this is what my Coyote's Mask and my Overdogs currently look like. Would it still be worth running the latter even, considering I have no way to reroll the stats?

[atomic turtle]

Yes.

[solar sable]

ye

[atomic turtle]

Those attribute differences are negligible. You won't notice a difference on normal gear pieces. It's the talent that matters.

And in this case Overdogs' Weakest Link > Coyote's Pack Instincts.

[smoky latch]

Keep running Coyote's until you reach Prof. lvl 10, then switch

[junior lagoon]

when you matchmae for a random legendary mission, does it include master missions?

[atomic turtle]

No, Master Missions are their own unique difficulty, afaik.

[junior lagoon]

you cant select master though

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, you can't, they're not the same as Legendary.

Matchmaking for a random Legendary mission will put you in one of the strongholds (I don't remember if it includes Summit, tho. I don't think it does), Master Missions have to be manually selected from the map, I think. And they only apply to past Manhunt Missions.

[fleet gulch]

Actually, is there any way to get the Overdogs reconfigure blueprint? I'd really like to try for better stats still.

[atomic turtle]

You can just farm another pair if you really want to. They drop in Countdown.

I wouldn't recommend spending exotic components on reconfiguring gloves that aren't that bad as is anyway,

You'll eventually get a Godrolled pair or near max that you can optimize the rest of the way.

[junior lagoon]

i just checjked and i dont have the reconfigure for overdogs, just the regular bp

[atomic turtle]

Besides, you already have maxed CHC which is arguably the most important of those 3 at your SHD Lv. I wouldn't risk losing that.

CHD also has diminishing returns the more of it you have, closer to a softcap than hardcap like CHC. So being a few percentages lower generally isn't that bad. And with how Striker's works, you can afford to be on the lower side anyway because of the stack power the set gives.

It's not ideal but it's perfectly fine. Fine works. Ideal is luxury.

You don't even need Godrolls for Legendary content. It just helps to have min-maxed sets.

Build synergy is far more important than high attribute rolls. I would rather have mediocre rolls with a bomb ass build than maxed rolls on a build that don't make no effing sense.

[warm rivet]

I have a question about Big Al. I’m currently running it with striker and ninja kneepads so I can have co start up time for Big Al talent

But I’m thinking, would tipping scales with Overdogs be better?

[atomic turtle]

Ninja Kneepads are a trap, don't use it. Tipping Scales would benefit LMGs as much as striker if not moreso. Overdogs is the superior option. Your reload speed is already crazy fast anyway.

[warm rivet]

It’s more so because reloading loses the Big Al buff

Ninja pads isn’t for reload speed for me

[fickle wyvern]

anyone have a on going directive build

[atomic turtle]

Tipping Mask, Backpack, Kneepads, Holster. Sacrifice or Equalizer Chest, and finally Overdogs.
The RPM makes up for the Big Al's buff loss anyway. You're worrying about something that isn't a big issue in practice.

It sounds bad on paper to lose the buff, in reality, it's not. Play without Ninja pads, you'll see.

[warm rivet]

Noted. I’ll try tipping scales/overdogs variant when I get home

I didn’t think to change it initially because it deals so much damage as is

[atomic turtle]

Also, vaulting in and out of cover might not always be the best option. Sometimes you're being swarmed and it might not always be safe to come out of cover.

Not to mention it requires the environment in the first place. If there's no good place to vault, you might as well just reload anyway with a superior build than poorer one.

That's how I see it anyway.

[warm rivet]

Yeah I have noticed that sometimes there’s no safe place for me to vault to or I get gunned down to low HP as I’m vaulting

So what you’re saying makes complete sense

[atomic turtle]

Hence why I called it a trap item.

[warm rivet]

Because now that I think about it there is quite a few times where I end up reloading from base because I forget to vault or I can’t

With overdogs, is it mainly turrets and drones you have to watch out for, since they’re the most common usually

[atomic turtle]

There's only one situation I can think of Ninja Knees being usable and it's with Backfire, but even then, every other alternative build for the Backfire still outperforms NBK anyway. Those Kneepads are in desperate need of a rework, imo.

You can also proc the pads talent by doing a CtC maneuver, but still not ideal. And the 25% bonus armor is useless because Armor by definition is useless for the most part.

[muted kraken]

does anybody got a fun pvp capacitor build?

[buoyant perch]

#td2-pvp-discussions would have more pvp experts, they rarely go to this channel

[junior lagoon]

why do we want skill damage/haste etc.. on The Setup?

[willow sigil]

This is for heartbreaker?

[muted kraken]

ughhhhyyy

[atomic turtle]

It's a great chest, so don't throw it away. But for HB the Gear Set chest is still best, iirc.

[willow sigil]

doesnt the hb chest and backpack essentially do the same thing? just the backpack stack twice as fast?

[atomic turtle]

HB Chest increases stack capacity to 100 from 50. Backpack increase Bonus Armor received to 2% from 1.1%.

[willow sigil]

oh, my backpack only says 1%

[atomic turtle]

Max BPM is the Chest Talent. Cold is the BP Talent.

[willow sigil]

oh i see, youre using the chest for the extra 50 stacks of weapon damage

so i use this then.

[solar sable]

use that with Vigilance 👍

[atomic turtle]

I wouldn't use Clutch. If you're going for DPS, use Vigilance instead.

Ceska works fine for 8% CHC.

[willow sigil]

okay so i trash this and look for a non named one

[atomic turtle]

You can use Grupo instead if you're already near the cap without it.

[atomic turtle]

Well don't do that.

You have plenty of stash space. Keep it. I have at least one copy of every named item in the game, just in case.

And it can be fun to explore all sorts of builds. So if you want to experiment with it in the future at any point, there's no harm in stashing it away.

[willow sigil]

what exotic am i using?

[atomic turtle]

For the gun? You can use Elmo's or Scorpio. Anything that's high RPM or a Shotgun typically works.

[willow sigil]

for the armor

i think gun i am going to use kingbreaker

[atomic turtle]

Kingbreaker is solid. For Gear, You can use Memento for more Survivability or Overdogs for more DMG.

Or you can use Tinkerer.

[subtle bluff]

Unfortunately HB chest is BiS.
Good piece to still have.

I use GC once one here and that.

[atomic turtle]

Coyote's is also an option if you plan to get in real close for the free CHD.

[hot trellis]

Thoughts

[willow sigil]

i do have a memento, does it always roll with one of each core attribute?

[atomic turtle]

Yes.

[willow sigil]

what would my other he gear piece be then?

[atomic turtle]

Chest, Gloves, Knees, Holster. I'd say.

But it really depends on what you have available.

For me, I'd use a ceska/grupo mask. But you can apply that sentiment to the Holster/Gloves/Kneepads too.

HB chest is the only thing that stays on.

[willow sigil]

I do have this i can optimize up

[atomic turtle]

I just like making my loadout look neat, so having 4 gear sets in a block is better than having the gloves or holster randomly swapped out, but that's more personal preference than build advice.

[atomic turtle]

Reroll the talent to Vigilance and you have a solid backpack you can optimize or use till you find a better one.

[willow sigil]

i am keeping all of the blue cores correct? i am not rolling them off for red?

[atomic turtle]

No, you need the Red Cores if you plan to play DPS HB.

You can do Hybrid if you want, and keep some Blues, but if you're looking for DMG first and foremost, you need to swap off the blue cores.

For DPS, anything not a Red Core is non-negotiable.

[willow sigil]

oh i see, nvm then. theres no point in me building hb then, if im just making another striker.

[atomic turtle]

That's why no one really uses HB as much, lmao.

[willow sigil]

what would i farm for a blue build?

[hot trellis]

Yo hyper you think my build is good enough to raid?

[willow sigil]

foundry?

[atomic turtle]

Idk. I haven't seen it.

[hot trellis]

I posted it above

[atomic turtle]

I'm going to let you know right now, outside of very specific situations, Tanks are meaningless in this game. And you'll be more of a hindrance than a help in a team.

[atomic turtle]

No, this needs a lot of work before you can use it in a Raid.

[hot trellis]

Heard just come back from a year hideous

[willow sigil]

so what youre saying is, i only need a red and a yellow build?

[atomic turtle]

Consider something closer to this:

[hot trellis]

Double shotguns necessary?

[atomic turtle]

Sadly, the game is centered mostly around DPS. Skill builds can do that too. Weapon builds are just more straightforward. Tanks and Healers have their value, but they often get overshadowed by DPS builds to the point they make either of those other two functionally meaningless.

[atomic turtle]

Scorpio has superb CC and The Mop gives and additional 10% AoK. Pair that with Gunner and HF's native 20% AoK, and you're looking at almost half of your armor being replenished every kill.

I've got experience with Glass Cannon, that's why I run it, but you can 100% swap that out for Unbreakable or Intimidate.

[hot trellis]

Your red mods chance or dmg

[atomic turtle]

But if you're going to use Intimidate, you need to have at least 1 more Blue Core to make the Bonus Armor last against a few hits.

All the minor red attributes are CHC. You should be hitting roughly 52% ish CHC with this build.

[hot trellis]

Heard

[atomic turtle]

CHC favors Shotguns especially, so being at 52% is perfectly fine.

[naive viper]

with the bluescreen / vile mask / and ongoing directive should i focus on raw cc and cd or status effect for attributes for my build?

[hot trellis]

Last question do I need the chem launcher I hate that thing but can get over that fact to do a raid

[atomic turtle]

I haven't played with Bluescreen so I wouldn't know.

[naive viper]

its busted

[atomic turtle]

Chem Launcher is huge, you can get up close, root enemies, and they've become essentially helpless while you meatshot them from point blank. Just be sure to stay just outside the radius so you don't root yourself as well.

And it pairs very well with HF's disorient debuff on kill.

[solar sable]

dont use Vile, follow this guide for Support OD

[hot trellis]

😂😂😂 that’s my issue dog I be in there like swim wear I be rooting my self and getting mad

[atomic turtle]

It takes some practice, but as long as you can stay about 7-8 meters away from the target, you'll be fine. You have more than enough time to get to them from that distance.

[hot trellis]

Obviously sidearm doesn’t matter what are your major reds

[naive viper]

ur the shit dude. helped me earlier with my hot shot buiild lmao... what skills should i use with the build

[atomic turtle]

Actually, If you don't have Quickstep, try to get it as well. It'll help you reach enemies faster so you don't have to worry as much about your Apex Stacks timing out.

[atomic turtle]

Quickstep helps fight against HF's primary weakness which is distance to target.

It's a CQB gear set, so you can use it in Raids, but it can be tricky if you're not used to it.

[hot trellis]

Is there any good chatterbox raid builds if not that’s fine I’ve just been having fun with it

[atomic turtle]

Not sure. I haven't played much with the Chatterbox. I've used it in some ocassions but mostly out of boredom and didn't see much use in it for my play style.

[hot trellis]

Ye I mostly just farm countdown

And summit

[solar sable]

Chatterbox isnt a great weapon for Raids or heavy content tbh

[atomic turtle]

There's plenty of builds on the Google spreadsheet, I'd take a look through that and pick out something you think you'll like.

[hot trellis]

Ye I was just thinking that after I said it I felt mad stupid

[atomic turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1509999994#gid=1509999994

[flint arch]

you could probably use it in some other heavy content if you're really dedicated, but raids? hell no

raids value consistency over anything

[atomic turtle]

I can consistently keep enemies rooted with EP.

[hot trellis]

Never done a raid but have done everything else except PvP with it 😂 done pretty decent

[atomic turtle]

mfw the DPS players are on cloud 9 because of my sticky goop.

[flint arch]

if you don't fall into either three rigid categories of DPS and support or extremely niche builds for extremely specific strats, you are getting instakicked from the raid

[misty walrus]

why isnt chatterbox good for racist and heavy content?

[flint arch]

racist

racist content

[solar sable]

racist

[atomic turtle]

Is it really not good for PvP?

[flint arch]

you need to kill an enemy within one mag (and ideally half a mag) to maintain the RoF stacks, which is really hard on higher difficulties

and it's quite inconsistent, something raid leaders are allergic to

[atomic turtle]

What if I'm being consistently inconsistent?

[flint arch]

All precision no accuracy

[solar sable]

you are average

[misty walrus]

racist content is heavy

wrong layout, but atleast 1tapped 1st guy, i dont get why couldnt do with the 2nd one

3 virtouso pc instead of 4

[solar sable]

your HH stacks expired

[atomic turtle]

Why the hell can't the Hunters be that braindead when it's my turn to fight them?

[misty walrus]

It should have reactivated after one kill?

[solar sable]

it didnt refresh it seems, idk how that works still

[atomic turtle]

Was it the Jam from the Hunters? I did see it go back up, but it also depleted real fast after.

[silver coral]

is it possible to get hunter killer on cassie mendoza if you have unlock it on the white cache yet?

[atomic turtle]

You need to unlock it first, I think.

[flint arch]

you have to acquire it once, doesn't matter where. if you want you can wait until there's a seasonal cache that drops it

[silver coral]

and for the gift and matador is there another way to get it besides DZ?

[atomic turtle]

Named Item Caches.

[solar sable]

named caches

[silver coral]

i need it for my HB set

[atomic turtle]

Gift is a flex, you don't need it.

[hazy steeple]

You can also get the blueprint for Named Items via the Reconstructed Caches from Retal/Descent, but that one's a longer method.

[atomic turtle]

The DMG bonus doesn't even improve.

[silver coral]

that would work

il pray to get a matador then

[hazy steeple]

Next week-ish, there's a new Season that's quite heavily Retal focused, so you'll be farming it a lot then.

[silver coral]

sweet

[hazy steeple]

||(and there's matchmaking coming 🎆 )||

[silver coral]

is it together with the black tusk retal?

[solar sable]

yup

[hazy steeple]

The big part of that are the new Exotic blueprints, and a chance to get a season-specific BT outfit from their "Elite" Kill Squads.

[shy willow]

Outfit you say🫣

[thick meteor]

So if btsu t9 is only for y8s1?

[stark pivot]

whats a good build to start making when i get lvl 40?

[soft crane]

Good old Striker build.

[hexed steppe]

Striker for dps
Refactor for skill build

Both have guides in the pinned spreadsheet

[stark pivot]

thank you guys

[soft crane]

Imo the basic when making a build is to make sure your have the necessary attributes in your library. For starter, primary weapons and brand sets has 3 attributes, the core and two sub attributes. Now what you wanna do is to donate an equipment that only has one maxed attribute in the tinkering table. Once you do, the next time you get a piece of gear or equipment that has 2 attributes maxed, you just have to replace one of them. Keep in mind you can only change one attribute and once you do you cant change the other.

This also works for talents as well.

[subtle bluff]

Lvl 40 Starter Guide

[thick meteor]

To get into endgame, a good 4 piece striker with ceska or UA, with St elmos, or any high rpm heavy dmg AR with damage to targets out of cover

For exotics due to you not having maxxed on chc or chd on your watch due to you just getting it, memento or coyotes are good, but if you're daring and lucky, overdogs.

A build you should strive for is 4 piece striker equalizer chest piece for perfect oblit (or ceska chest piece with normal oblit) Overdogs (or coyotes mask for accessbility, or memento for survivablity)

[soft crane]

Thanks for reminding me I got Equalizer today. Just need to optimize it a little bit as well as changing skill haste to CHC.

[soft crane]

And... done. Here if you want to see how the build looked like.

[ebon lantern]

Gotta say Bluescreen with Ongoing Directive or Negotiator's is really fun. Would highly recommend.

[thick meteor]

Now this is a good strikers build, highly customizable in cosmetics as well, you can sub coyotes for ods or memento

[soft crane]

I have Ongoing Directive build with Tinkerer mask and yeah its fun.

[soft crane]

Whats Ods?

I usually replace Coyote with Tinkerer but I got bored of it.

[sinful tinsel]

do you guys reckon heartbreaker is a better gear set than strikers for solo

[thick meteor]

Overdogs

[soft crane]

Heartbreaker is for hybrid tank/dps build iirc.

Depends on how you play I guess. If you want more survivability then go for heartbreaker.

[thick meteor]

Depends on you, strikers is good due high dps, which means, they cant kill ya if your dead.

[sinful tinsel]

just i try heroic content solo with a red build then get obliterated but can also equally obliterate them

[thick meteor]

Full red is good if you know how to reposition, stay in cover, and know when to be patient. Or brute force it lmao

[soft crane]

I have Striker, Ongoing Directive, Skill Damage, Rifle DPS, Future Initiative, Eclipse Protocol, Striker Hazpro, and Tipping Scale builds.

I think I missed one or two...

[sinful tinsel]

its over.

just need 20 automated defense parts and some black tusk tactical assessment

[soft crane]

Using overdogs is a hassel ngl.

[hazy steeple]

They're honestly not that big of a deal, once you get your head around the target thing.

If you can get them working well with an Equa chest, you go through spawns like a thing that goes through things quickly.

[soft crane]

Is Equalizer new named chest? Never seen this thing before.

[summer totem]

Dang tipping scales made me able to solo using lmg

[soft crane]

Literally just got it today.

[sinful tinsel]

idc if they make my build worse it took me so long to get im gonna use them anyways 🥀